No Jumper - Hurricane Chris on Catching a Body, How He Beat it & More

Episode Date: July 23, 2024

Legendary Hurricane Chris talks about his early days, skipping school to go to the studio with Boosie and Webby, and more! ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/nojumper http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper. Coolest podcast on the world. I'm with my man Remo, and today we're in here having a much-needed conversation with a legend Hurricane Chris in the building. How you feeling, man? What's popping? chilling. I'm happy to be here.

Oh, yeah, happy to have you, man. I'm going to add him 22. Hey! What you want to do? Yeah, Hurricane. Tell them. I'm here. We made it.

We made it. You're a legend, man. I still got a memory of, what year was it, 2007? when you first came out? I came out in 07. I got my deal in 07. And I remember living in Brooklyn at the time and just hearing

Abe Bay bumping out of multiple cars driving on the street in my new apartment in Queens at the time and just realizing like, oh, this is the new thing. Like rap music is changing. This is when even as like New Yorkers and shit were like becoming aware of like

oh, there's like very different sounds and styles coming from down south and shit. It's slowing in the cadence down. And that one, sure enough, like song of the summer. But you know, it was hell for me to make that song. Why do you say that? Because I actually passed Spelling Bees and I was good

at reading. So when it came to make it some shit saying, you want to know what we say in the club? And then I have to pause, let the beat breathe say, hey, baby, and then say riding in the Zach with him. I wanted to just rip up every beat back then because I was just a young, you know what I'm saying,

rapper. I guess it was like pulling teeth trying to make me slow down and make the song. I hated to shit. But who told you to do that or where did you get the idea that you were just trying to make a hit? I just knew I had to just dumb it down. They was telling me to slow it down. A lot of the people around me was like, slow it down. Like give them something they can understand and remember.

Even my mama was telling me they're like, how are you doing? You cold, but that shit you're rapping. It's too fast and it's too much. I had New York influences and a lot of shit like that. So, you know, I just had to slow it down. When I, now that I have a kid, I see that. Because my kid will remember a song if it has a chorus that sounds like three-year-old could remember it.

But meanwhile, you know, when that plays shit for her that's lyrical or doesn't have a hook, she's not going to give a shit. She'd have to hear it a thousand times to give a- They don't want to hear that shit, bro. They do not want to hear that shit. My son listened to what he listened to, and it'd be songs that I wouldn't even imagine he would want to hear. He'd be like, I just sit back and watch the kids do what they do. I don't try to make them be on what I'm on and none of that.

Let them do him. Different air room right now, right? I'm really just peeping, you know? Like, he teaching me shit, you know? But what kind of shit is he into? He and the music. He played football and he's studying music. Like, he's 11 years old, and now he got to the point where when we're riding in the car

and somebody got a sample in their record, he'll be like, that's a sample. And then sometimes he'll even know where the sample came from. So he's studying music, but he crazy about football. Like, that's what we do every day. I'm a real dad. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, I'm a real dad. That's good.

Not part-time dad. Are you supporting his music career? Like if he wanted to do. I'm buying whatever he asked for us to do it. Like he asked for the keyboards and all of that. Like I go get it. Like, yeah, I ain't pushing them to do nothing, but it is what it is. Yeah, whatever you behind you behind.

Yeah, I'm giving them free range. Was this your first kid? Yeah, my only. Okay, your only son. Yeah, I ain't got no bunch of baby mammas. I ain't got no bunch of child support the baby. You were just saying, like, I'm a real dad. Like I was thinking like, oh, is that in contrast to maybe your version of being a dad in the past?

Or have you always been committed? I mean, I take it serious. And I see how some people, you know, they put the money before their family. And, like, certain days with me, you can't buy Christmas. Right. You can't buy my son birthday party. Like, you can't buy my son birthday, that day.

You can't book me. You know what I'm saying? It's like certain, I'm going to put him before anything, before any type of bag, you understand what I'm saying? Right. I ain't going to disappoint him. You got to make those tough decisions as a dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, straight up.

And if you ain't got enough paper put up, to focus on your kids by this time, then that's kind of like your father and on you. You're supposed to be focusing on them, trying to aim their career. A lot of people ain't aiming their kids, careers, in no type of direction. You know, and that's something you might want to pay attention to,

you know, see what they're interested in. Definitely. So you were speaking about your history as a rapper and everything, but let's just go right back to the beginning. Can you tell us a little bit about your childhood and where you're coming from? I came from Ratchie City. Sri Pua, Louisiana.

Probably like 170,000 people. Real small community. Some people might call it country. That's where I come from. Like, Cedar Grove. My family was born on the east side of Cedar Grove. Then we moved to the west side of Cedar Grove. That's like a known neighborhood in the city.

But I'm loved all over the city. I always been loved all over the city, you know. It's just my stumping grounds. That's where I came up at. That's why I got my first starting that shit at, you know. What are your earliest memories of hip-hop as a young kid? Man. So my daddy used to go to the store and buy tapes.

He used to stack up so many, I used to steal him out of his room one by one. So I used to listen. Early on, I was listening to shit like Spice One. Shot Spice One. Eight Ball, MJG, you know, stuff like that. That's what I was on at an early age because it was what I had access to, you know. What was your lifestyle? growing up like in a streetport what type of typical like household did you have i had

um my daddy was a hustler yeah i came from a family hustlers like i grew up in a in a time where i people had to do what they had to do so i really grew up right in the middle of that um watching at three years old you know looking at three four bricks of cocaine on the table being broke down and i know it's dope even at three you know so like to see where I'm at now. It just, it keep tripping me out, you know what I'm saying, and see that I was able to take a whole other route and shake what I was really, you know, a product of, like, it's crazy to me.

Like, I really grew up in the middle of this shit. Was there, like, a time period or a memory that stands out in which you, like, fully became aware of the fact that your family was doing shit that was illegal? Say it again? Was there a moment or, like, a memory when you realized that your family was doing illegal stuff and that this was not like the way that other people make money? My dad would beat my ass, right?

I watched him break down and Kea Coke on the table with one of his people, rest and peace he dead. I ain't gonna say his name. And when my dad and them left, I walked up to my mom and I was like, my daddy just gave such and such something dope.

And I ain't number three, probably two. So this was crazy, you know, because I'm looking at my son. He's 11 years old, and he don't know what none of this shit is. So they let me know I'm doing something right, you know?

Like, I ain't letting that sense. same cycle continue. That's what it's about with me. That's what's up. That's good to hear. But so, okay, like, so your dad beat your ass when you're three? Not beat my ass, but I got a spanking, you know what I'm saying? I got a popping for saying what I was saying. I don't even know where the whooping came from.

It may have been my mama who whoop me, but I know I said some shit I wasn't supposed to say because I was paying close attention. Like, say, for instance, my daddy used to look out the window every day at the neighbors and say, look at them other f***ers. So one day at two or three years old My mama come in the room She said I'm in a blind like this Got the blinds ripped all the part

Looking through them I say mama Look at them up So I was soaking up everything Like a sponge And let me know You gotta be careful what you do In front of your kids

So now if I'm Me and my woman get into an argument Something the first thing I try to do It's like hey we're talking too loud You gotta check that shit Yeah They soak it up You realize your kids

are literally going to repeat anything you say. And if there's something that you say that they don't understand, they're going to begin the slow process of figuring it out and figuring out how they can say it and shit like that. I'm at the point where my kid repeats the things that I say instead of swearing. Like I'll say like, what the heck instead of what the fuck. And so she'll be running around the house saying, what the heck? Yeah, I can say that.

It's kind of weird because I'm like, I don't really want you saying that either. I was like, I don't know. She was looking for a house. Yeah, exactly. Definitely. But okay, so as you get older. everything were your parents doing a good job of keeping you away from all this funny business they were involved in? I mean, I got in the music at an early age. Like I said, I was running in my

dad in room listening to their music and I fell in love with it. I was playing football too. So I fell in love with the music and I started rapping in the neighborhood by the age of probably 12, 11 years old, people, they was known for having the ability to rap. So, you know, I was just able to do some other shit, you know, they did that shit. So, you know, I was able to do some other shit. Was your dad behind your music career, any at this time? My dad got locked up. He did like four and a half, five years for weed, which is we riding around and we buying this shit out of every dispenser and I.

He was just having personal amounts of weed on them? Personal amount, but it wasn't no hundreds of pounds or no shit like that. Right. Like, he was a small time selling dime sacks in her apartment type shit. Damn. Like, you know, tell your dad to break me a dime or a knuckle type shit. Yeah, that's crazy. Had no major weight.

She did four and a half, five years. Me and my brother went and picked them up together. when they got out. Oh, shit. So did you seem to have talent as far as rapping from early on? Were you somebody that people were looking at in the neighborhood? Like, you might have something? Yeah, they were with me early on. I couldn't be with you couldn't with me. I was bussing up like everything that got in front of me. You couldn't fucking me even at a young age. Who did you want to rap like at that time? I used to listen to around this time when I really started getting serious. I think M&M came out. So I was listening to M&M.

I was listening to a lot of that. And then I started getting into, you know, the more lyrical artists. You know what I'm saying? Like, that kind of curved me and helped me a little bit. Yeah. Because you was having motion in Louisiana before any of your hit songs even came out, right? Hell yeah. I have been popping in Louisiana.

How did you start gaining, like, fame in your area? I was always known for rapping, so I used to always enter competitions. One time I entered the competition, and it's a little independent. company start rocking with me, let me get in the studio like every day. From then on out, I start dropping mixtapes. Every time I leave the house, I come back with $1,000 from slanging my mixtapes. It just got

popping in the city like that to where I started getting booked outside of the city. Now at 12, 13 years old, I'm making $5,000 every weekend off doing little gigs here and there, you know what I'm saying? But I'm moving all throughout Louisiana all throughout these little back town countries, you know what I'm saying? And I'm getting

popping. So that's what built me. me up. I can just come out of nowhere. It wasn't no put that shit on Spotify. And I had to, I was on the ground, stumping, meeting people. And I had to know how to move around people. I couldn't be no f***ed up individual because I was around people that would peel your shit back. You understand? So I really had to get out here in politic and make my shit, you know, do what it did. So at this time, like, your dad's locked up. So who's, like, moving around with you as you pursuing your music career? I had a partner named three. We hooked up and he stood. start moving with me and we put a security team around me at a young age and I just was always,

anytime I came out the house, I moved hella secure. We took that series. I took it serious. He took it serious. And, you know, we ain't never do no slacking. Like, I was peeping this here out before I came trying to see, well, we need to have a tactical team pull up before I come, you know, but, you know, it's all good. But that was part of the conversation from early on is it's like we got to figure out how to move safely through these environments. I think that happened because every time I went somewhere, a shoot.

shooting happened. Shooting was happening right next to me at every club I went to somebody gets shot right next to us. So my mama started making me wear a bulletproof vest at a young age. Even in the school, she's like, I, you wearing a vest. Took me and got sized up for it. They made me a special vest at probably 13 years old. I'm wearing at the school, everywhere I go. She just got tired of hearing that I've been right next to a shooting or somebody getting shot. Wow, that's one of the most extreme parenting measures I've ever heard. And I've been interviewed thousands of rappers. That's intense. That's crazy, right? Yeah. I'm thinking about it now. Like, picture that trying to send your son in school to bulletproof that song.

Just knowing that your kid is in that kind of danger, but that he can't, you know, you can't remove him from that environment totally. So the best thing you can do is to at least make it so that they won't get shot in the heart. That's like crazy. Yeah, you wasn't going to stop me from rapping. Yeah. It wasn't shit you could do. I heard one more extreme thing that I think you said on the interview, you said that your dad was offended by people smoking weed around you, but he used to let you hold the guns. Yeah. So when I heard that, he was like three years old around that time when they was breaking down the dope on the couch.

They used to, you couldn't walk in the house with your gun on you. You was going to get disarmed at the door. So everybody knew the rule to disarm themselves. But they also knew this, the motherfucker right here, know about guns. So everybody that walked in the door hand me, they pistol. So it's probably be three of his homies They walk in So by the time everybody get to the back

I got three unloaded, Pistol sitting on the couch Clicking him like a capo Real guns Yeah But your dad was cool with that But when it came to the weed smoke He wasn't with it

Nah And I think what that was Is he wanted me to know How to protect myself In the environment That I was being raised in And how to survive And how to use the tools

That was needed in this environment That I was being raised in But he ain't want me To taste the environment You understand what I? I'm saying? He did a good job with that, you know, I ain't never been no junkie or no silly shit. You're breathing in that weed smoke when you're young.

That's the beginning stages of you starting to smoke for sure. You couldn't smoke no weed around me when I was young. Like I, my dad would have lost his fucking mind. Nobody ain't light a blunt in front of me, period. If I walked up and you were smoking, you'll put that shit behind your back like this. My dad was a man, so what you're going to say? That's funny because that's how we are with my kid is that we never let anybody be smoking weed around her.

But meanwhile, a lot of my friends, when they come in here with their kids, it's like, everybody, nobody's even thinking about it. Yeah, I see people do it, but their kids probably was born around it. So it was probably, like, different. My kid wasn't born around it, and he got asthma. So I don't even smoke around them. I ain't smoking in a house around them. I got a whole other section of my house for smoking.

I ain't doing none of that. It ain't that serious. Nica, ain't no dophine goddamn. Right. 100%. Yeah, I know. I feel better about even putting my kid in the, car when I was smoking weed in it, but the day before.

I don't even smoking my cars. At all? Okay. Yeah, nah. You got more self-control than me. I'm smoking in my shit. No, that's smart. All right, so 13 years old, you're going to school, we're in a bulletproofest, but at this time you have emotion. So how they're treating you at school? You know, man. I'm guessing you're the man. I got haters, and I got

love us. But, you know, the love is always going is going overshadow the hate. So you couldn't stop me. It wasn't no hate feeling to make me feel bad about nothing I had had gone. I was getting money at a young age, man. In the ninth grade, I'm pulling out 10,000, 15,000 out my pocket, so I'm loving this moment.

It ain't shit you could tell me about this. And the hate's coming from the people at the high school with you? Yeah, I had, you know, you're going to have your cats who ain't doing what you're doing, who might not be on your level, who just jealous. You're not having natural jealousy. It's just something about seeing a nigger get a

bag and you know you in his environment and you don't see him as being no better than you. Some People can't accept that. They question and why the fuck is he in this position? Then in the ninth grade, I'm driving a school and X-type Jaguars and shit like that. So I'm cutting up at a young age.

I ain't got no license or nothing. But we get into a bag at a young age. Were the kids in school aware of who your dad was and what the environment you came up in was like? Yeah, because the apartments directly across the street was his apartments. I went to school directly across the street from the apartments that he hustled in. So everybody knew who son I was. Because when you talk about having 10 or 15,000 on you in high school, the alarm bells just start going off in my head to a young kid.

Like, you do not want anyone knowing that you have that kind of cash on you. Hey, I had more juror then than I got none. Really? Facts. You were going for it. Fex. I had more jury when I was a little kid back then when my dad was in the streets, then I got nothing.

Really? But you had enough respect that it was never an issue? No, you ain't had no problems like that. It ain't not, hell, no, because my last name rang. Everybody in my family went to the same high school, and my family kicked ass at this high school. So it was an actual, like, real tight-knit kind of vibe in the community and shit, like an actual community?

Yeah, you got your people who opposed to the people who rocking and doing what they're doing, but for the most part, I ain't going to just say a tight community. It's just everybody know everybody and you know what to do and what not to do. It's a small community. So you got to be careful. It feels like so many of the people that we talk to these days, it's the opposite environment. It's like everybody's kind of mysterious to each other. It's like in that environment like allows a lot of violence.

Right, right, right, right. Nobody really has like connections to each other. I realize that. Like, you got to kind of pump your brakes where I'm from because that shit you're fin to do, your mama. might be best friends with his mama so you can't just be a while man you gotta think before you do shit you know what I'm saying

like you really gotta pay attention it's a small community like that before you know it you've been turned to everybody against you yeah no facts so okay at what point what year was your graduating class out of high school? I got out of high school

I stopped going to high school I stopped going when I just started I just hit the road with the music around like the 10th grade. Okay. Yeah, so I, bro, the high school was down the street. Busen & Webby

was at the studio while I'm at school waiting on me to pull up to do music. So it was hard for me to stay in the classroom when I know I got them and I know they didn't text me. I got a text saying, Boo-Saint Webby here, they wait and y'all doing the song

when you get here. I'm leaving school at this point. Like, I can't stay here. My career calling me. My mom is struggling. We got a video. notice is on the door at this point my daddy locked up we're doing bad around this time I got money in my pocket but my mama kind of doing bad you understand what I'm saying so I need to keep pushing and start to make a bigger move know what I'm saying and Busy and Webber are already like huge legends to you at this point and not to me in the world bottom of the south not just when they was

this when they was popping right they had swerve and all that out at this time so yeah this was like they was like little Wayne of down yeah yeah Well, we probably had independent out too at that time, right? So how did he get in tune with you? Like, this before you had a hit song? No, I'm telling you, the people that I was signed to, it was a bag behind me since a young age. All right, for sure. So whatever I wanted, they was making it happen.

So who'd you sign with? It was a company called Five Entertainment. Okay. Yeah, so it was like anybody I wanted to feature with or any of that, it was happening. Like, we was moving. It was a budget behind me. And who owned that company? It's a lady and a husband.

Okay. And that's based out of Louisiana? Was it like... All right, for sure. And you had a good relationship with them? Yeah, I actually, like, I looked at them like family. I, like, lived in their house down there type shit. Like, they looked at me like a son.

I looked at them like family. We recently had a file out. So what happened was I hired a manager in Atlanta, right? You're talking about recently or back then? This is what happened with... This ain't back then. This is recently. Okay.

We was good up until now. Like I'm still doing business now. We had a situation on the table a couple of the years ago. So I hired a manager, right? Peep game. And I want to try to peep gang too. I hired a manager. I moved them to street pole Louisiana.

When I met my manager, I was in a situation where I'm fucked up. I need to make something happen with the music. My manager living in a U-Ha space fucked up. He need to make something happen. So we click tight, boom, shoot the streetport. I get back with my people who I was with. we put a deal together. We got a situation.

My manager is somebody who was close to 50 years old, right? He don't know how to market a new artist. So the methods he was choosing to use the budget caused the situation to deteriorate and it caused me to get pissed off. And I start saying, hey, man, I'm going to be in a hole for this budget. You're spending the money the wrong way.

The labor choose to say, nah, let's spend $100,000 on one song right now. I said, no, it ain't no way I want to be involved. No, because, You're going to put me in the red. I don't even know what we're doing. I don't even got a song right now that I was feel comfortable saying, let's do that with nothing. So that's how I stopped the whole relationship with management

and with my whole old labor. I started with, which is somebody that I was supposed to continue with and still be with to this day. Even you still, like you being in this relationship for like 20 years is pretty amazing. Right, right, right, right. Not 20, but over 15. Right, right, right, right. then.

All right. So when did you get your first hit? A, Bebe, was the first one that cracked off, right? I ain't going to say that was my first nationwide. Nationwide, yeah. You already live. I had a son called, you hear me.

We had a son called, yep. And they had us touring throughout the whole bottom of the south, from Oklahoma to Mississippi to all over Louisiana to Texas. You know, so A. Bebebe was the first nationwide here. And you said that you had to, like, go outside your comfort zone to make that crack off. like, you sort of get into the point of realizing, like,

you were going to be lit down south, but that if you wanted to take it to the next level, that you were going to have to do something different? No, see, I used to, I got tired of watching artists pop right in front of my face. Like, everybody getting a deal, and I'm rapping, rapping, rapping, and I've been rapping since I was 11. Now I'm getting old, you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, what I got to do?

And I'm paying attention. So you got people coming out with these catchy, simple songs. So I like, let me go on. in the studio and try my best and make the dumbest, simplest song I could possibly make. Yeah, that's what happened. And that's where everybody came from, right? That's what happened. I actually heard people saying it in the club.

It was psyched out with the DJ. That night I hit the DJ, hey, this shit is crazy. I'm going to make a song. I got an idea. Make it. Boom. I whipped it up. We started sending it out to DJs, and that shit ain't never look back.

So what a lot of people might not know is Bebe was the name of the DJ in your area? Yep. All right, because a lot of people, when they first heard that song, they thought you were just like hollering out a chick, like, eh, Bebe. I wanted the song to be bigger than that, so what I did was I made it to what, now when I see a bad chick, I'm hollering out of A Bebe.

So I changed it from something that was something that they would understand locally to something that they could vibe to nationally. All right. You know what I'm saying? So I involve more people. That's why I added it. That's why I say white folks, gangsters, and the thugs. You know what I'm saying? Just try to

involve everybody and say if you're a white folks, a gang's in a thug, you could say this. If you're stunning and a leg with a mug, you could say this. You know, if you're in a club, you can say this. Just making it more than what it was. So who was Bebe at this time? And why

did you even feel like you needed to even shot him out? I mean, the club was already doing it. It just was a channing a club. Yeah. So I just put two and two together. Make a record to this shit. It's going pop. But he was a DJ out there. Yeah, okay. And at the time, did you have, like, a good relationship?

Yeah, yeah, we was cool. Y'all got cooler, like, before or after the song came out? We was already cool. All right, so y'all was running together. We weren't running together, but we had a cool enough, like, communication back and full type of. We was around each other every now and then. So then that song comes out, it blows up. You and M friendship become a little closer, I'm assuming.

Because I've seen somewhere where you said y'all started running around more, and you kind of helped him get a deal at our heart or somewhere? Nah, so that ain't, that's just off of, that's just off of me making a record. All right. You know, just off me making an ABA Bay record, given that, that stamp. Yeah, so that's what I meant by that. All right, for sure, for sure. They ain't mean, like, you know, we was running around together every day like that.

We ain't never been running around, but it's like that. I couldn't tell you what he do with his day. All right, for sure. What club was this? Man, we used to have the craziest club in America. We had a club You could get head in Shot in

And something to eat at the same time It was called Cocoa Pellis It was like the litter shit in the city But it's gone now 50 cents just went and bought up a bunch of shit In Shreveport So I'm hoping He put back some of the shit

That meant something to the urban community You know Because I feel like a lot of people Who had the money Downtown town, they kind of bought all the black people. So, you know, I hope that changed in the future. So it's like an area that's becoming gentrified?

But now 50 just went down there and bought up a bunch of shit. So it's kind of like, you know. That's interesting. I wonder where he even got the idea to do that somewhere so far from where he grew up. They had a big-ass tax incentive in Louisiana for a real long time. It's been a lot of movies being shot there that you probably don't know about for a real long time. A lot of the movies you've been watching, they've been shooting that shit in Shreport. Oh, that's interesting.

Yeah, that's where he's building the G-Unit Studios? Yeah, that's what I. All right, for sure. It was already built. It was actually a building that somebody had got a bunch of money from the state for, and they got a grant, and they were supposed to do stuff for kids, for the community, all kind of stuff. They didn't do nothing they were supposed to do, or they couldn't do what they were supposed to do. They left and went out of the country.

They was playing for, like, the Beatles or something, and the building just sat vacant. It was just going to just sit there and rot with millions of dollars worth equipment and it and everything. So the city was really wanting somebody like, please come get this. Wow. That's great. So had you been talking to labels about signing prior to making ABA or had you not really gotten to that point yet in terms of majors? No, I had been talking to no labels.

Before that, I was cool with people like the only rapper I had ever hung around was probably BG. Okay. And that's because I was cool with his manager. So I ain't have no connections to the industry like that. Besides Busce and Webby, though, right? because you said they were reaching out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was, back then, I was doing music with them.

You know what I'm saying? Like, we was paying them to do music. We built their relationship. With BG, it was kind of like they were just like saying, come ride with us on the road. I was just hitting it, going on tour with him, hopping in the limo. So then A, Bebe, B, comes out,

and you just start getting all those label attention right away when they realize how much potential it has? Yeah, I mean, Colley Park flew straight to Shreport as soon as the song blew up, and he wasn't going to leave without sign of me. Really? Yeah, so I got to deal with Clyde Davis and Polo Grounds, Brian Leach. That's who I signed with.

Wow. So how much did that change your life? Because you were already making money on a smaller level, but then all of a sudden you signed. Does that change everything? It's crazy, bro. The night I signed a deal like a fillet when I walked through the club, like people looked at me a whole different way. And this was my community, the people that I came up around, like that I always looked at me like I was, you know, just like them. they probably still feel like that

but I could tell how proud of me they was, you know, like it was a feeling that went over my body that just gave me cheers to walk through the club and, you know, I got 30, 40 people with me, label executives, you know, I just came from standing outside

with a big pole on my hip somewhere, chilling with my brother doing some shit we ain't had no business doing. Like, so this shit was, it was, it was just mind-fitting to And so, but how much did it change your financial situation? Did you feel rich all of a sudden?

Or was it just a little boost? Right, I feel rich all of a sudden. This bitch, chicks coming all the time. This shit is lit. I ain't never seen no money like this. So what's it like as that song starts getting played all over the radio and MTV and shit? Man, I started touring. I start going all in places.

Like, you start seeing like the different reactions, the girls at the hotel room, asking can they give all your homeboys head and then get you here just to get to you, I'm like, die out straight. Like just seeing how, you know, how this movement was able to capture

people and make them pay attention to it. Like, it was beyond me. But it must have been crazy too because you're used to the down south circuit but then all of a sudden, because I remember this being a time period where like I'm living in New York and all of a sudden shit like OJ, juice man is popping off.

And like, on one hand, he's talking about trapping and shit. So a lot of people are f***ing with it. But then at the same time, like New York is very like purist hip hop as well. So people were like really not with it. So was it kind of like mind blowing for you going to like different markets where your shit just seems so foreign to them? You know what I heard my feelings? What? Ice tea got on YouTube one day and was talking about me and Soldier Boy.

Oh, he put you in the Soldier Boy category because he was going at it with Soulj Boy. soldier boy for a while there he said hurricane chris take the beads off your head i'm like what i love ice i love ice teeth oh man it's crazy i was mad though yeah i was mad you ain't do a response video because soldier boy came back this and at that time he violated them i ain't do none of that you ain't believe in doing all that's smart though talking and shit i don't ain't really big any of their talking shit there's not a lot for you to gain from shitting on your elders things are in the rap game. You're going to lose, take days off your life.

Yeah, I ain't doing that. I just went to Raising Cains and they had iced tea everywhere around that bitch. Cardboard cut out to him outside the Raising Cains and shit. Like, he's their number one. So imagine I would have told, I wouldn't be allowed in no Raising Cain. And I am Cain. You know, that's funny. All right, so when did you all decide to do the remix?

Because the song's going crazy. Now you're like, all right, we're going to put the remix out. Who was the first person you reached out to or how did the remix? come about anyway. Bucer. He was the first person to get on it. After that, I think it was like the game. Yeah, because the game was on there.

Then E-40. Jada-Kis. Jada-Kis. And Birdman. Birdman was on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And was it crazy for Boussi to see you go from a dude that he was, like, getting paid to do a feature for?

And Angelo. That's somebody from my city. She was on the remix. Oh, okay. Yeah, I ain't going to forget her with my bad. Did that, did you feel it from Bousie that, like, he saw like, oh, shit, like, you went from somebody that he was having to get paid to do a song with to, like, all of a sudden now he's happy. He's thankful to be on this remix because it's a huge hit. Like, was that kind of crazy for him to see that?

Yeah, yeah, because he called. He said, hey, don't take me off the remix. Do not take me off the remix. So I was proud, you know, to have legends ready to fight, you know, to stay on this song. Oh, that's dope. Yeah, I kind of took that like, yeah. She just told me he's going to be mad if I take him off here. So, you know, as a young kid, they couldn't do nothing but boost my ego,

turn me up some up. Was it all love in your community, or did you have, like, a negative reaction as well as people saw you becoming successful? We had some haters. We had some haters. You ain't going to do this shit without no haters. It's going to be some niggas who want to try you. How far is free point from Baner Rouge and the Wormons?

Like, how far as it's the draw? What, Baner was like three hours, four to five minutes? four hours. Yeah. At that time, I'm pretty sure that was a big market for you as well,

like traveling, making the trips to Baton Rouge and the Wallands to, like, before him? Yeah, I've been going to

Baton Rouge since I was like 16, 15. I've been going there before I even blew up. I told me I was already tan Louisiana. They had to give me a bag.

Did Birdman or Master Pee ever reach out to around that time? So I was on a row with Birdman when I first signed my deal. People thought I was

with Birdman because I was with them down there every day, but we never did no business. What year is this? Shit, the entire time from 2007, throughout the entire time I was with my label and we was running because we all toured the same arenas, so we built the real tight relationship even to the point where they started

putting me on their rider. I stopped moving with my people and just start moving with them, you know what I'm saying, building a relationship. So before you know it, I'd send my tour bus home, I'm on Birdman Tour Bus. So like, we just built the relationship. like that and that's somebody I still keep in contact with. He just called me probably like a week ago, a week and a half ago.

So, you know, I try to keep them relationships, you know. And was he trying to sign you at some point or no? He kind of was hint at it and telling me what we needed to do. But my young, dumb, stupid ass didn't understand what he was saying. So I ain't know how to connect him with my CEO to make this shit happen. All I knew was I already had a deal. Definitely. So, okay, that whole time.

period is going crazy in terms of you just moving around and everything. Like how long would you say that you were just dealing with the straight up like after glow of that song blowing up? It was like a year or two of just nonstop action. When A. Babeba like started going crazy, I hit the road for six and a half months without coming home one time. Wow.

Damn. When I came home, my family had moved. I had them bought a whole new house and hadn't even seen it. Yeah. You feel me? It's Holly Berry. at this time too? How long did Hallibari?

Harry ain't out yet. Ain't even out yet. So just off just A. B, B, B. It's off the dump, off the rip. All right. Like, we was caking up

at a quick pace. When you look back at that time period, because I feel like that's kind of like a crucial decision for an artist that starts blowing up, is like, do you want to kind of stay in your environment and keep recording, or do you want to hit the road and start grabbing all these backends from shows and everything? A lot of artists f***ing up right now

because they're focusing too much on the shows and they stopped their creative process. They got that music from hanging out, from going to the studio on their own time, hanging out with their engineer, stopping the session, talking about some bullshit that don't even matter, and they start in the session back.

But when you got an artist on the road and he got to try to book a session while he's on the road and he only got a certain amount of hours and like that shit don't get you that same system, sound and music. Like, you got to allow them, you can't just roll yourself to death. And you spend your whole life making music rapid about all the shit that you're around,

and then all of a sudden you're on the road and you're a superstar, and people are screaming when you walk in the room. And obviously that's awesome. But does that make your music good? Not always. No, it's a lot of people who they scream for music. There's trash. You just got to scream with them.

Damn, this shit trash. When you look back on it, were you lost in the sauce? Or like, how fucked up did your mentality get as you were adjusting to be? and the famous guy in the room. I was lost in the sauce. They put me at the table with a chantinelli to have a dinner. And I'm at the table like this.

Because I couldn't smoke before the shit, so I'm in it like this. I'm at the table with a chantinelli. Clyde Davis sitting right over here. Like, it's nothing but millionaires and billionaires in here. But they took me straight out of Cedar Grove out of Street, Paul, Louisiana,

and didn't tell me nothing. I don't know. know how to act. I don't know nothing about none of this shit. I don't know none of these people. I was talking to look crazy at a stranger if I don't know, I'm watching for them to make movements that I ain't, you know, so it's like I was out of my comfort zone. I felt like I was way out of my comfort zone to the point where they used to have to take me back to the car. Like, what the fuck is wrong with you? I just had to get used to the industry shit. I came from Sri Pua, Louisiana. At a young age,

I was hopping on the floor at 7 or 8 years old, diving on the flow, because all we're here is, ha, blah, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. And they don't stop. They keep going. And you got to lay on the floor

till they stop. And they're going to keep going. Like, so I'm traumatized. You're talking about your house getting shut up? My house ain't, the house across the street. Oh, okay, yeah.

Like, this is what I grew up around. So snatching me out of that shit and telling me to smile like everything is out good, that shit was like impossible. And wasn't also a scenario where you,

because I think I've seen you said that you wasn't really happy with the deal that you was in. Because you said that you felt like Bebe finessed you, and he was more happy about taking the deal because he was leveraging you to maybe line his pockets. As I got smarter, I was able to look at it like that. And I'm also able to, you know, I'm able to look at shit from a different perspective after I bag away from the situation. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I wasn't happy with this.

situation, but I wasn't just super pissed off with the situation either. You know, as I learned more, I learned that it was more things they could have did and that they should have did, shit that they should have asked for, that they didn't ask for, you know what I'm saying? Like, they really was eager to get inside of a situation and make some shit happen. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was even people come after that. Like, what they get you, I get you double right now.

I know you said Jay Prince offered a double. That's when you realized. Whatever they gave you, say the number. I'm going to get you double. And that's kind of how you realize that you kind of probably wasn't in the best deal. When he offered the double it for you, right? And he didn't even know what I got. Whatever it is, say it enough in the double.

You could come get it. And at the time, you was just loyal to who you was with. How come you didn't take the deal? I wasn't smart enough to know I can go to these people and buy myself out of this shit. All I know is I sign the contract. I'm young. I don't know. Now I know.

Shit, they signed me for a million. He's going to give me $2 million. Shit, I can buy myself out of this shit. I can get him $1.5 right now. now they made a free half a million without spending nothing. But the fucked up deal was the one with your management company, or was it the one with the major label? I mean, the deal with the label was the deal that I feel like the management should have paid more attention to.

You know, because with me being the age I was, I'm relying on older cats. That's why all you youngsters who are getting in situations, go get you a real deal lawyer so he could look at the paperwork and make sure that shit straight. Don't let your home boys look at it. Don't let your home boys come in the room and take you. you sign this shit man it's gonna get you rich it's gonna get you a deal fuck that go get the lawyer and when the label tell you this deal only last one day or we ain't gonna sign you tell him to kiss your ass you feel me yeah it's just shit that you

learn over time though yeah you gotta learn to say let me go get something to eat I'm gonna pull it back up I'm so young I'm letting these motherfass man to put my john Hancock on some shit before I even leave out of the building yeah and that's why you're assigned to a bunch of people who are in their 30s and 40s and shit who are supposed to know the game and then like at some point if you realize like oh they maybe didn't necessarily have my best interests

in mind or weren't as knowledgeable as I thought that they were. Right. And which is why I can't it ain't shit I can be mad about. If they ain't had a knowledge, they ain't had a knowledge. But it's the truth. I'm gonna speak the truth and you know. So where are you and Bebebei relationship at now?

I said we ain't got a relationship. Yeah. But you know when I got out when I was going through my situation like I reach out to people and certain people show me love and certain people showed me that they understood I was going through something and that I may have

needed a little hand or some support in some kind of way people people showed that but the people who didn't show that I wrote them names now and them names they ain't never going to get forgotten you watch me fight life I call you and told you

I need you to reach out to somebody and make a move happen for me so I can put together a plate of finish paying for these lawyers and doing all this shit because I'm gonna lose M's on this shit from not being able to do shit endorsement shows

everything and you tell me I ain't with the music right now I'm just chilling man I'm just doing my own shit like I told them straight up from the bottom of my heart you ain't got to worry about me no more.

You understand what I'm saying? And I can say that because this somebody there, you know, that knew me since way back then. You know what I come from. You know what I went through to get to what I got to. And you know what it felt like for that to be dangled in front of my face and for them to be about to take that from me. You understand?

Because you went through the same thing. He went through a legal case. I stayed right there with him. So I ain't never turned my back the whole time. And it could have put smut on me. Yeah. Yeah. You feel me?

So I just learned from the people who turn their back when I went through my situation. And I might not be mad at you, but you ain't got no reason to call me. I ain't fucking with you. If you ain't, if you ain't understand that I, I wouldn't asking you to do no shit that I, that you might have not. If you feel like it, I wouldn't asking you if you feel like it. A nigga was on a motherfee desert stranded telling you I need a ball of water. And my ass was like, hey, nah, I ain't fucking with that. I'm straight on them.

me so where were you actually at in this time period like before we go into this the situation that came about what was your life like around that period and what year are we talking this is 2000 and this this like over three years ago oh okay so right when my case happened early pandemic basically yeah i'm guessing like 21 okay um i don't even remember the dates on that shit right yeah right around the pandemic yeah and what's your life like at that time like what are you doing with your time and shit I'm I'm I'm smoking a million Cagillion cubillion blunts I don't start

like drinking and everything because I'm trying to ease my mind I'm trying to cope with this shit I don't ducked off in a basement somewhere in Louisiana with an ankle on it on my leg in the basement and won't come out this mother

I'm fucked up about this shit you understand what I'm saying Oh you're talking about after you After the case I'm kind of wondering just like what your life was like before Oh before that I So before this I own a dispenser in Oklahoma.

Oh, okay. Oh, all right. I just bought a house in Texas. I just signed to an acting agency, one of the best ones in North Louisiana. I just did my first small film. Got paid more than sick, proud of it. You know, so I'm moving,

and everything I'm putting my fingers on is clicking at this time. Everything I'm trying to make it happen is happening. So life was good because, like, I feel like some percentage of the audience is going to think, like, the A-B-B-B-A thing happened, and then, like, 13 years go by, and, like, they're not sure how well your career was going. Nah, bro, I was, I was good. Like, I'm still caked up. I'm still, I'm still caked up.

Like, at this point, I still could pull out a million dollars and show you this shit. Like, before this case, I had nothing to worry about. Like, we was laughing at everything to the bank, you feel? man. And you're in, you're still in your hometown? Or no, you moved to Oklahoma around this time. No, I didn't move there. I moved to Texas. Okay. Open the dispensure in Oklahoma. I bought a spot in California, too. I was in Thousand Oaks. So I was just like, I came out here for a movie. The movie ended up getting shut down, but I still got paid. So now I'm out here with a apartment. Like, but I'm making leeway in everything I'm doing.

Everything I'm putting my fingers on, this shit, is clicking. And to the board. shit come. And so can we start breaking that down? Like, like, what happened that evening? And that was out here? No, that was in Louisiana. Oh, okay. You went back. He was at a gas station. Yeah, I was at a gas station. Just talking to my partner and chilling at the gas station.

I started breaking into the whip. I try to make them stop breaking in the whip. Your car right in front of you. Yeah, yeah. I walk over to the whip, catch him breaking in my shit. I try to, I get the fuck away from the car, what you're doing. I got a rifle inside the car.

He already got inside the car and reaching inside of the m-uh. So my thing is, if he get his hands on him, he's going to cut everybody down in his parking lot. So I answered the till he'd get the fuck away from the car bag out of the door right now. Instead of doing that, he choose to make threats verbally and reaching his pocket while walking towards me. So I had to do what I had to do. Not with the rifle, with something you are glad on you. Yeah, I had my gun was on my hip too.

Right. The rifle was just a gun that I left in the car in between the driver, console and a seat, an AR pistol. I had it in between a seat and the middle console right there. And so, like, you're talking about having dealt with firearms since a young age, but was this the first time where you actually

had to, like, really consider using it? Like, in that moment, making this fucking huge decision about what you're going to do must have been, like, the heaviest burden, and you have to make this decision in, like, seconds. Right, right, right. But, I mean, you would be surprised at what you do when you're

a light flash in front of your ass. Right. If you feel like you're going to die, you are capable of some shit. You're capable of protecting yourself. I'm telling you, like, your body got natural instincts. Somebody's reaching and grabbing a rifle out of your car right in front of you. I mean, that's basically, like, the clearest sign possible. It's past that. He already then came out of the car.

Now he reaches for his hip. It's a big-ass bow there in his pocket, and he's trying to get it out. So he's away from the car. Now he's trying to get a bow. out his pocket. See a big-ass bulge. When the forensic specialist running back, everybody see the bulge,

everybody see something sticking out of his pocket and you're trying to grab. So, you know, that's what led me to, you know, I knew a weapon was in the play. I'm already trained on you with a weapon, you continue in and walk towards me. Like, you got to be, you got something, you know, and you're making verbal threats

at the same time. Feel me? So you do what you got to do, and he's neutral. right away? So this is like a couple seconds later, boom, the threat is gone. Yeah, I mean, no, I ain't going to say a couple seconds later because he ain't neutralized right away.

I empty out my magazine, but when he hit the ground, he's still moving. So it ain't, you think you shoot somebody and they stop immediately. That ain't how it work. When you shoot somebody, they're going to have an adrenaline dump. It's a high chance that they're going to have an adrenaline dump. At that time, they're going to become even more. sporadic and move with more energy than they was moving in the beginning. So it's like their body trying to survive something, so it's going to overdrive.

So a lot of people think you fire a weapon and the threat is stopped. No, you got to be trained and you got to know how to use that gun to really stop that threat. Especially if somebody got the possibility of firing back on you or using a weapon within close proximity. But so did that happen? Like he went for the gun or something like after you unleashed it? all your boats? So he had a big ass brick in his pocket.

A big boulder, concrete boulder. You sound like one of these things type shit? It was that size for sure. Jeez. When they dropped it on the desk that motherfucker

made the whole courtroom shake like this big, literally. I shot it in half too. I shot the brick and a half too. So when they had in the courtroom it was broken half, that shit would have killed me. Yeah.

I just still think I'd hit with that shit we wouldn't be talking right now. And you just had a regular handguns. You're like outmatch big time in that regard. Exactly. With the fact that this motherfucker don't make you stop immediately, a handgun don't stop you immediately. So I still could have been home.

So I'm still, you know, I'm still thinking about my safety. A lot of people ask me, what was you thinking? I'm thinking about my safety. Right. I'm thinking about my life just flashed in front of my fucking eyes. If I reach on you right now and you don't know me, boy that shit put the fear of God in you

if you don't know me and you walk outside and I go off and I'm gonna blast your ass and man you're a shit on yourself right they'll call you Adam Doodoo

you're shit on yourself I'm telling you bro so what happened so what happened immediately after that was it a situation where like I stayed on the scene I down 9-11 told him a shooting happened

by the time I got to explain and what happened the police was whipping into the park you know what I'm saying stayed there And, and, you know, did they treat you as if you were a violent criminal right away, or did they seem to understand? They ain't know, they had nothing to do with the situation because they pull up and yellow taped everything off. So we're on the outer perimeter.

So I could have just hopped in my car and left if I wanted to run from the situation. But there's cameras and all this shit. So you know you're going to have the, I mean, the cameras, I mean, I had no, I wasn't. You have nothing to hide. Yeah, I ain't had never hide. Just somebody child at the end of the day. You know what I'm saying? I understand this.

This is an unfortunate situation. This need to be handled the right way. You know, so I stay right there, you did? Wait for them to come. They yellow tape it off. I approach them and let them know I need to, you know, I'm involved with this situation. Get the fuck back.

Push me out the perimeter again. I'm like, yo, I'm trying to highlight you. And I guess one officer realized, yo, he's saying he involved with this. Pull him over to the side. So I told him exactly what happened. Like I just told you. And the motherfuckers choose to charge me with second-degree murder.

Before they had even seen the video footage or anything that would make them think that you were the aggressor? Yeah, because as soon as I met the detectives downtown for questioning, after the questioning was over, that's when they charged me. So I don't know if they seen the tape because I think I made it to the, I made it downtown before the detective made it. So he walked straight in and they took me in the interrogation room behind him. So I know he probably ain't seen no tape unless he watched it in the car on his phone. But this was from, you know what I'm saying? Was it a mistake to talk to them without a lawyer? Right.

You get in any situation, do not talk without no lawyer. Even if you think you're 100% not in the wrong. The police job is to try to find where you wrong at and put handcuffs on your monkey ass. Do not make no statement ever with the police until you got a lawyer at present. I don't even give a fuck if he was asking you what kind of gum you like That shit could have been found

On the murder scene And he's trying to pin you to it Rigley's gun what you like Damn we just found that shit on the body Yeah I don't want to have I need a lawyer Police tell me

How you doing I want a lawyer To say it back You're thinking I'm innocent I got nothing to hide And if anything Me being so open About my version

Of what happened Is gonna make them Really believe That I'm telling the truth That's like human nature to assume that, but you're not talking about humans. You're talking about cops. They operate differently.

And I understand. It's their job to find something wrong with your story. So you're going to lose a little situation. With them from that to the district attorney, I guess it's their job, bro. Right. Damn. Fighting against them, a real deal, strong force. So how long did you essentially fight that case?

Three years. Three years. I had an anchor monitor for three years. Big, stupid-ass shit on my pants. bro, I couldn't wear no jeans I wanted to wear. I couldn't get in the tub like I wanted to. I had my foot up in the air every time I take a bath. This was the weakest shit ever.

So you did, you made bail pretty quickly? Hell yeah, I made bail quickly. Okay. Well, I had that bag put up. And then. And it wasn't, I think, I don't even think my, I don't even think my bread got touched. I think my people just, just through the, some, my people just, I just paid them when I got out. So then you're, all.

Also dealing with the fact that, you know, anything that happens also becomes like a shit show on social media and you got all these different pages posting about it. And like I feel like that must have been kind of crazy for you as somebody who prior to that had a pretty clean image. Yeah, but see, the fucked up thing about it is my community. I'm thinking about my community. Like, I really mean something in my community. And this family is a family that I got love for. The family of the deceased is a family that I got real deal love for. But you didn't know that until after?

I don't know who this is in front of me. I know I'm faced with a threat. I really got love for this family. Was raised in their houses. Eight at their tables. You understand what I'm saying? So this is a f***ed up situation. You understand?

In the courtroom, his family is back there saying this shit's f***ed up for me. Either way it go. Because she raised me and him. So when did you realize it was somebody that you actually knew? I never knew him. She just raised. But he had relations.

But he's family to it. people that's like my family. So he ain't stay in our neighborhood. Maybe he came over their house before, but I don't know. You understand what I'm saying? But this family is somebody that got a lot of love for the whole family. Like, I f*** with the whole family. Yeah.

And so, okay, but are you paying attention to the dialogue that's taking place on social media where people are probably talking about you, like, either you crashed out or you were just like a bad person, psychopath type shit or acting like, oh, he must be on some straight tweaker shit. Like I can just imagine the narratives that people would automatically insert rather than, you know, wait to

find out the details. You got your gun on you. You got a son to make it home to. You think somebody is going to take your life. What you're going to do? Oh, yeah.

How much you love your kid? Just picture A mother's getting the, you standing there and waiting and a mother's do something to you. And they call your son and say, and your, oh, your baby, mama have to tell your son some f***. I don't believe in speaking bad shit in the ass. So you feel what I'm going? Just picture that shit. Your son, nigger, sitting at home crying because you ain't coming.

It's going to fuck him up. I ain't playing like that. I'm not playing like that. I love everything around me, but I be damn. I love everything, and I'm going to protect everything around me. And if I could stop anything bad from happening, I'm always going to do that. But I value my life to the point where I can't let nobody play with it, period. But so during this whole time period, I'm imagining how you must have been feeling.

And I feel like you must have been thinking that at some point, they're going to see the video, they're going to figure out what happened, and they're going to drop the charges or whatever. But then that doesn't happen. they just aggressively pursue charges against you. Right. And like... That's the craziest shit. I knew the video was going to free me, bro.

I knew that shit. I'm like, when did they got to watch this shit? And this shit got to free me. Because it's still playing back in my mind. I went for that... Like, damn! That video didn't do shit for me. Why?

It really didn't even in court? You know why the video did something for me in court? Because I had a specialist to blow certain parts of the video up, to show the bulge in his pocket, to show him walking in the stove, doing weird shit with the bulge still in his pocket. All of that type of shit is what my, when I got a forensic,

when I got a specialist to fuck with their footage, then it favor me. And for like us in California, we always think it down south and we think that this is the type of situation in which it's where gun laws are looser and it's easier to get off on self-defense. So I feel like that's,

when we've heard this story, it was always kind of surprising to us because we're like, This is the kind of case that people are supposed to be down south. Right. But you got to think they got the officer outside the car saying, that's Hurricane Chris, bro. See, my lawyer got all this on audio.

All this shit was played back in court. I slammed dunked their ass. It was so obvious that they had their dick hard for arresting a celebrity to where the court didn't even, the judge, jury didn't even want to see no more this shit. You got the fucking officer outside the court. I'm, bro, this hurricane Chris. And guess what else he's saying?

Bro, this shit is self-defense. That's crazy for them to say that. The office are on the scene. Because this situation is actually, like, incredibly similar to what happened with the baby in Walmart. Yeah. And he didn't have to fight it. Exactly. You know?

So why the fuck I got to fight it? I'm in Louisiana. A fucking place to go through any type of legal shit. You go down now, your ass do life for Jaywalking. They just, they're changing all kind of crazy laws. Now they don't even do parole in Louisiana no more. Like, your ass go to jail. You got to do all your time.

They're taking parole or way. They're trying to do all kind of shit like this. Louisiana, if you go to a lot of places, you might not know this, but Louisiana, you go to jail. You still got to go work out in the field, like on life. That shit for real. Wow, really? Yeah, hell yeah. Go to Angola.

Get a charge where your ass sentence with a monster, some monster shit where you're around, none but lifeers. Why, I can show you pictures. I got a homeboy who got two life sentences right now. He go to the whole every other day because he won't go and work in the field. Wow. Like, this shit is some back-in-a-day slavery type. shit going on in Louisiana. Wow. You see, Boussa got the

fuck up out of there. I got the fuck up out of there. Wayne got the fuck up out of there. Berman, everybody. Young boy. You got to get the fuck. They want your ass. And I did all type of shit for my city. All the state representatives that then call me to come perform at parades and ride on floats. You're talking to these old wig, whammer,

you came and helped me in court? No, bro. I had a state representative. of running around telling the whole city she was my anna to the point where everybody telling me call your anna I need to do this I need to do this I need to use up I ain't got a lick I ain't you ain't fucking kin to me ain't none of these people showed up to my trial well now yeah yeah so anybody that's your friend they care about their careers and if you're somebody civil servant and you look like you're defending a murderer then they're just concerned about the optics yeah but see I'm I'm gonna let you know how I

feel. Everybody who didn't support me after it was over, they got a long text from me. I told them straight up. You don't never say another fucking word to me ever in your life. We ain't friends. We ain't nothing. It is what it is. Are you still in the process? I think you said

you were going to sue the state? It's a big thing with that because in order to do that, I got to be able to get the transcripts and everything that happened inside of the courtroom. So I got to dump the bag. I got to go ahead and crank it up with my lawyers and go ahead and dump a big bag and not even be promised to know if I'm be able to get the transcripts because

they can deny this and they're going to deny giving me the court documents on everything they were said inside of it. But it costs a lot of money to get that? It costs money for me to hire my lawyers. So if I hire these lawyers and seek them on this mission, they tell them it ain't no guarantee that they're going to be able to get all the documents and all of the transcripts. And what's the main thing that you feel like you should be able to sue them on the basis of? the fact that they took my second amendment away from me not my second amendment

but my right to defend myself they took my right to defend myself away from me because you had nothing to show you that I wasn't in danger and you got me as the witness saying everything that you see on video and telling you that I'm in feel for my life from what you see happening on this video

feel for my life can only how can you tell me if I'm in for my life or not. And reasonable fear. This was reasonable fear. If you walk out the door and I reach into my pocket and say, I'm about to shoot you, that's reasonable fear that you have. That is a reason to fear that your life is about to be taken from you.

And that's what the law say. It was reasonable fear. 100%. So how long do you have to sit before the trial starts? I waited three years. And you just got it hanging over your head the whole time. Like, how are you spending your time while you're awaiting that? The press as a motherfucker.

Some of my homeboy were telling me, man, you act like this shit ain't over your head. What, you ain't worried about this shit? But I guess I had got so stretched to the point where I just got numb to everything around me. Like, I'm in a basement smoking myself with 9,000 blunts. I need the strongest weed I can find on God's earth. I'm drinking. I don't want to see nobody. You know what I'm saying?

Like, my brother, people like that, is the only people I eat money. to conversee with and come around like you know what I'm saying I don't even want to see nobody right now like this she got me fucked up my whole life being played with these people telling me second degree and you know in Louisiana that shit carry life you guaranteed to do life if you get charged with a second degree in Louisiana and you probably would have loved to just hop on social media and say exactly what happened to correct all the people who had up ideas about you but I'm guessing that your lawyers told you not to do that so you weren't really able to make no statements i couldn't really do a lot of interviews that i know i'm saying and make a lot of statements even when i did the vlad

interview that shit was so strict on what i could talk about and what i couldn't talk about that that was after you had already beat it right i did two of them i did one after it happened and then i did one with them after i beat it oh okay i didn't realize that you had done one before as well okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but okay so how long the trial last She lasts it like Like nine, ten days And I was in there on my birthday too And how confident were you?

Yeah, that's what I was about to ask I was The only thing that it would make me confident Is if I could sit with my lawyers for a long time And go over the facts And I keep drilling them in my head Yeah But I wasn't confident

When it got closer and closer Once I started sitting in that courtroom Seeing how I ain't got no control I thought court was going to be like, I was going to get to go in here and talk and be like, this is what happened? No, you got to sit down and watch the state make up stories about you for a whole day. Because you didn't have too much of a criminal record before this? Nah, yeah, no, I ain't had no criminal record. Right.

My guns was legal and everything. You had like everything going for you that you could possibly want to have going for you in this kind of case. Straight up. It's pretty crazy. Straight up. But at the same time, that shit didn't matter. They wanted me. they wanted me like that shit didn't matter bro i could have had god right there standing outside saying

this is what happened chris was in field for his life you know what they would have did to god the jail and me to jay they would say they were going to sell with them on the basis of you having like neutral family friends and everything like like how did that go in terms of like i'm sure there was people who are angry at you and like you're probably having to see them something was it not like that uh-uh they was they all reach out to me They understood. They made statements on my behalf to, um, my lawyers. Wow.

That's big. Wasn't there other witnesses? They said, Chris, you ain't never, you ain't never been no bully. You ain't never with nobody. You ain't never been, that ain't true. We just can't see this shit. Don't feel bad, Chris. This is what his family telling me.

Hold your head up. It's a fucked up situation. We, we, we said about our people, but Chris, we know you, you weren't just out here wild and like that. And so that all got set in court. Hell no, this ain't get to make it to court. They wouldn't let it in. You thought that it would be able to make it? They wouldn't let it in. Really? Because I got, I paid on investigating and everything to record the statements from the family members. They wouldn't let it, they wouldn't let it in. Wow. That's crazy. Was there any witnesses at the gas station?

Yeah. He said everything I said. You think that that would be open and shut too. He said everything I said, bro. He stood on the stand. He said everything I said. He said, I walked in the stove. He was telling him to step away from the car. I don't know what you got in your pocket. Take your hand away from your pocket. He said, when I walked out the stuff, the little guy was saying the same thing. He called me the little guy. He said, look how little guy he is. I would have been scared too. Look at how little he is. He doing this in court. Wow. So how did it feel when they read the verdict out? Man, that was like a weight off my shoulder. That was a weight off my shoulder. I felt like

I had my life back. The whole time this shit was going on, I just felt like one day these folks from tell me, come on, let's go. And they're going to, I'm going to be writing letters to my people from now. Like, I ain't have too much faith in their justice system. Yeah. But I won all 12 jurors. Ain't nobody say I was guilty. Everybody said not guilty.

Wow. Came back with all 12 of them. So I couldn't do nothing but thank God. I broke down like a straight, be it. What? Wait? You want to see some tears, some crocodile tears? Are you too hard-ass niggas?

Yeah, I was crying. Wow. Fucking right. Boy, I got my life. life back. I'm going to go play football with my son. Yeah. Everything just felt completely different after that. Yeah. My life don't belong to nobody else.

Wow. I'm going to do all kind of shit tonight. Walk us through that day. What did you do that night? Got drunk than a bitch until I couldn't see straight. Because keep in mind, I couldn't drink on the ankle money either. Really? They told me stop drinking, you can't do shit. They can tell

if you're drinking or? I wasn't about to find out. But you were smoking. Right. I was smoking. Yeah, so how to Would they be able to tell you was drinking when we were looking? I guess I'm a fool on that look at a shit. I don't know, bro. But that was weird to me.

Like, no drinking. What the fuck? Yeah, that's crazy. I wasn't no big drinker, but after that shit was over, bro, I got drunk as fuck. I got drunk as fuck. Who didn't you actually feel like had your back or, like, stayed in communication with you

or was solid throughout this whole thing? My brother, my mom and my daddy. My old lady. my son. So the rap friends are just kind of out the window. Who, who? I don't know. Boose is supporting me.

Okay. Every time they asked him something, he was like, shit, Cain did what he was supposed to do. Right. So that's who supported me. Boocy's been through the fire, you know, he knows what it's like to do this type of shit. I talked to a few rappers. I talked to a few rappers and they was like talking to me.

Like, I was like a terrible person. Like, boy, you need to calm down. You're wild enough. See, a lot of people just assume that. Yeah, I'm like, what? It's kind of like more likely for it to be some wild shit than for it to be some self-defense shit. I think that's how the cops think of it too, is that it's like, yeah, maybe you're going to be able to beat this on self-defense, but we think that 90% of the time it wasn't. So we're just going to assume that it was in self-defense.

Right, right, right, right. And that's fucked up. That's fucked up. Yeah. I don't understand how they think like that. When you should start from the presumption of innocence. That's what we taught our whole fucking life. Nah, you guilty to prove an innocent.

Yeah. It's shit backwards. What's the biggest takeaway you took from that situation? bro enjoy life you know what I do now walk in a fucking backyard and just standing

look at the trees bro because all this shit was about to be taken from me all the shit these cats value all the shit these n'nese values I don't value none of this fool-ass shit I don't value none of these fake transformer body bitches

I don't value the motherfucking cyber truck I don't value none of these shit bro yeah Life, man, I really go to the football field and throw that ball with my son. Every other day until my fucking arm about to come out of soccer. Like, I'm valuing that shit.

Even though I'm on the road, I'm doing music, I'm in a studio. But I'm thankful that. When I go home, I got a home I can go to and I'm going to be able to chill and not have to think about doing life in jail. Because to go from living your motherfuckin' life, pulling up in whatever you want to pull up, to a mother telling you you probably if they had to do life.

I got people in my ear telling me go on take 10 years, Chris. They try to throw 40 at me like, you want to jump on this? See, that's what I was thinking. I was like there had to be a plea deal offer at a certain point and I've listened to interviews with a ton of people who got charged with murder and basically like tried to fight it

and then ended up getting a crazy long sentence and ended up regretting that they didn't take the plea deal. Was that ever an option in your head? No, it wasn't no plea on nothing. They could have told me five years. I would have told him, hell nah. Let's crank this bitch up and go to try. That's just how confident I was

and the fact that I was protecting myself. I ain't no stupid-ass cat. I've been around firearms too long and know not to play with him. I mean, just out here looking to shoot nobody and no dumb shit like that. That's crazy, bro. Right.

Like the whole narrative of that is so fucking dumb. Yeah, I've been a successful rapper for like 10, 15 years, and then I wanted to just kill a random dude in the park, a lot of the gas station. Like, why the fuck would anyone ever do? that. It doesn't make any sense. While I'm investing in businesses and all kind of shit. And you know, one of the officers said, this

motherfucker on a dispensary. We got to lock them back up and give them another half a million dollar bond. Matter of fact, we're going to try to raise this one to a million. So my lawyer called me like, hey, they're about to have a hearing. They're about to try to take the bun and give you a bigger bun. I'm like, they can do this shit. Just because you

need in the hear that you're making a lot of money? Bro, I think this motherfucker started researching and I had posts like when we was doing Grand Open. and shit like that, I think he really was researching because I heard them same officers was in tattoo shops talking about me, the tattoo artists come to my house and telling me, like, these motherfuckers are talking crazy.

So, like, that's how tired into my community I am, though. Like, motherfuckers know I ain't been no bad person around there, so, you know, if they see some shit that need to be spoken on, they're going to let me know. If you had some crazy history of violence and shit, it would make a little more sense for them to be assuming that you were guilty. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. If I was known for putting that piss on my fuckers,

then I would understand them treat me like that, but I'm known for getting to this bag, doing this music, putting this rod in your grab, something like that. I might have did some of that, you know, but, no, man, everything been played with me. Like, I grew up in a fucking environment,

so I ain't wanted to go chase that shit again as a rapper. I seen murder my whole life growing up. It wasn't nothing excited about telling me somebody had a shootout. I don't want to hear that shit. I don't want to see this shit. We walk in front of bus stops, seeing people laying on the ground,

bust up, hit with shit, laying on the ground, ambulance and around, pumping on their chest. This shit we walk home from school seeing as kids. So, right now I'm trying to be around some people who focus on being successful.

Talk to me about how we can invest in something and own something and have something. You know what I'm saying? Like, I just got out the phone with some people who own a bill and I'm going to buy a smoothie shop right now. Yeah, so I can't tell you the name of it, but I'm on my business shit right now.

I don't even want to hang around no young, dumb, stupid-ass, You just like, you feel me? It's just what it is. And I got a lot of people that I got to distance myself from. That's how it felt when you got out, or that's how you felt right now?

Even right now. Because I know what I ain't fin to go back to. I know I ain't fined. Y'all are playing throwing rocks at the pen thinking this shit a game. And you ain't even got no real bag. You're out here using that gun like that and doing all this dumb-ass shit.

I hope you got some real deal money to fight this shit. Because it ain't about how many times you can shoot that gun. It's going to be high. many times you can go to the bank account to take out 50,000. When the lawyer keeps saying, I need another 25, I need another 50, or we hopping off your case.

Or your a half in and do a thousand, a billion, a million years. Like, it's two sides to this street shit. You know, I'd just be one young since to understand that. It ain't cheap. No, I feel that. What do you think about, like, and be a young boy and all the legal stuff? He's been going to fucking with a young boy.

You ain't feeling to make me say nothing bad by YB. I f*** with him. Yeah. I f' fuck with YV. No YB slander would be tired. I've been f***ing YB since he was lit. His manager used to call me his partner who got killed. I think his name, um, Dump.

He used to hit me up a long time ago. We had a little dump on there. Yeah, I had him on him? Yeah, his nephew. This before young boy got big, Dump used to hit me up like, man, he's a nigga wild in there, I don't know who did it. And I used to just try to give him game on shit.

You know what I'm saying? Like, so, yeah, like, I f-fuck with YB. I used his music hard. I just think he grew up in the same environment I grew up in. That shit can go either way. I was just telling you I was fucked up in the environments. I shouldn't have been fucked up,

me mugging in. Like, when you come from a war zone, Louisiana is a literal war zone. Muffles walk down the street with their caves. Like, they walk in with them shit. And before it, it's like that now everywhere. But this shit been like that in Louisiana. Like, we was raised in a situation

where we shouldn't have been raised in, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, we all traumatized from the environment we was raised in. You've seen some shit you ain't had no business. seeing in Louisiana. I know coming from where you were, Cali or wherever everybody else said, it's the same thing. So you understand the struggle. You know what I'm saying? So you should understand before you speak on somebody or this nigga of Dofine. Man, this man, going through

shit. You don't know what he's going through in his life. If he's self-medicating, then they let you know he got some shit on his mind. You feel me? Like, I feel for the youngsters and I wish I could, you know, just give them, you know, a little game straight up. That's like, I ain't going to never down talking about it because I see him going through no legal problems, because they down talk to me. They talk shit about me. I know how that shit feels. Yeah.

There's like a dynamic that always happens where somebody will get arrested for some shit or caught up for some shit and it's on every blog, everybody talking about it, and then fast forward a couple years. Like in your case, you beat the charge and it's like people are like whispering about the fact that you beat it.

Like it doesn't get anywhere near the same level of attention. Bro, when we was in trial, It was about 150, 200 people in the courtroom. Soon as they said not guilty, the motherfucker was out of that so fast, bro. It's like, this ain't what we came to see. We can't see a nigga get life.

This ain't it. They were mad like they paid their money, bro. To see some shit. Ain't nobody standing this bitch to celebrate with me. And like, yes. That's crazy. Yeah, it's like that. I mean, it's crazy even,

all right, young thug is like one of the biggest rappers of the past 10, 15 years. He's on trial for something that's unbelievably serious, and it kind of feels like the rap fans have, like, lost interest in paying attention to the trial. Like, the people just have the attention span of a fucking goldfish. Right, right, right, right. And they just move on hella fast.

We're talking about one of the biggest rappers' face and one of the most serious trials we could think of. Right, right, right. And they just, you know, they still see posts about a little bit, but it's not that crazy. I think that's because they're interested in the shit from a fan's perspective of, they only going to get high off of it for a day or two.

me every time I see young thug in that fucking courtroom and fuck with me and I have to sit down and watch it and I can't just skip over this shit because I've been through that shit and I know what he's fighting for them of them say that the wrong shit in the we might not, you know what I'm saying?

You can not see bro again which I feel like he's going to be good in this situation you feel I feel like that shit going to work out for the best like I've been in Atlanta for a minute and I ain't never had to stay in the house because young thug was called in so much trouble. They ain't never said,

y'all don't come outside of day. And why I said, niggas tern the city up. Like, I think they're making them out to be a fucking monster, bro. They paint a picture of him like he's a monster. When it's way more fucking, it's people who really dangerous. I'm talking

about, you can't, you mention his name and then you bring up a couple of incidents where somebody may have got killed, but man, it's people with real deal bodies that's smacking shit. and they ain't after them because they want high-profile cases. They want a high-profile case. They want a high-profile cases.

And there's so many situations I can think of in which there's like a street gang doing crazy shit associated with all kinds of wild stuff. And then there's a rapper from that same city who's famous and everybody knows he's kind of associated with that crew of people. But then like nobody's ever attempted to make the case that that person is like commanding all of them. Because we all kind of know that that situation. is less likely. What's more likely is that there's crazy-ass-hit going on the streets. This rapper is from that gang or grew up around those people, but he's not hopping on the phone and ordering murders.

That's just what the dudes in the streets are doing. And a lot of times the dudes in the streets are not reporting back up to the top, if anything. And I mean, maybe I'm being presumptuous, but a lot of times those dudes don't even want the big dog to necessarily know. It's somebody that f*** with Adam to the point where if they think somebody really want to do you something

they'll smack them and not even tell you nothing, bro. It's somebody who love you like that. Right. You understand what I'm saying? It's somebody who f***ed you like that. It's a remote. It's my shooter. Like, that's facts, bro.

It's real facts. You got to think about that shit like that. That's crazy. It's fake. Prayers up for thug. But, okay, so what has life been like? You're saying that you're, you know, doing all the family stuff and everything,

but like what has been the focal point of your life since. Man, I've been recording like a mother-up. I dropped a mixtape. Hurricane Season 2. Go get that. I guarantee you I got the hardest mix tape out right now. I got the hardest mix tape out right now. I'm smashing all that shit.

Hurricane season 2. Go check that bitch out. And if you say that bitch ain't hard, then I'm going to cash up you something. Oh, shit. Yeah. Tell me that bitch ain't stupid. Y'all might want to take them up on that.

Yeah, I got volume 3 cockback. Me and Boussa just dropped a single. We got some content. We're going to drop a song called murder. Me and Sierra Gates, a female artist that I'm working with right now. I'm working with some reality TV shows right now. I've been filming.

So, like, I'm moving. This shit ain't stopping with me. I'm a hustler. I'm going to go get to a bag regardless. That's just what it is with me. It's in my bloodline. What was it like seeing Sexy Red remix one of your songs? Shit, I know I was going to get Rod to Chicks from.

So I was psyched out. She hit me before she did it. She did. She was like, can I get this cleared? I hit the CEO up like, hey, sex or ed? Just redid this shit. Make sure everything go through. And I still have forgot to call one person.

One of my other CEOs, they double back and call me like, hey, pooh, poop, poop. So everybody got the paperwork did and shit. And now she got one of the biggest records on the billboards right now. That record right now is killing the fucking game. It's like one of the biggest urban records right now. That's one thing I love about her is that she's like a young, but she pays homage. Exactly. She has a lot of stuff

over the years that is not necessarily always the most mainstream shit, but she taps in. She goes to Chicago, she taps in when Katie got bands. We all thought that was amazing. You know, and she really feels like she's doing what she wants to be doing. Like, she's doing all the songs with Chief Keith. Like, I very much believe that that was her favorite rapper going into

all this and, like, her acknowledging your shit and everything. She does a lot of dope shit that, like, she doesn't have to do. A lot of people hate on it and don't give her flowers, bro. You know, I just try to make sure I let motherfuckers know, like, bro, just imagine what else she could be doing right now without an opportunity to make this bread.

We got young black women struggling, bro. They can't feed their kids. They're really struggling out here. You would rather see a young black woman trying to figure a life out or making some music. You might not like every fucking thing that come out of. She might not be the perfect person that you want to take home and marry, but I don't think she'd think she'd,

trying to go on with you like that. She's trying to get a bag, bro. This shit is a hustle. This shit is, this shit is, this music. Like, you feel what I'm saying? I respect the hustle. I ain't never going to hate on no new shit that they drop in. It's crazy, though, because like a lot of people want to judge her on the basis of the fact that she'd be

talking about a bunch of ignorant-ass shit. But it's like, as dudes, who are the rappers that we celebrate more often than not? The ones who are talking about some crazy ass shit. But they act like it's a completely unique thing that she's talking about a bunch of ratchet shit. It's like, no, like, That's really her, and it really makes sense to me,

and I see the reaction from girls I know when they hear sexy red songs. And it's real. It just clicks with them. And it's real. Like, from her, I get the vibe that, say for answers with sexy red. If you fucking with her,

I get the vibe that she might not, she ain't feeling let a nigga rob you. You know how you got some females that a dude could get to and be like, hey, set this nigga up for me. I feel like she'll be that one, like, nah, I ain't fucking with. and those shit like that, just gonna keep it all the way real.

When you got these fake motherfuckers who walk around like this and being all perfect, them the motherfuckers you can't trust. Them motherfuckers who texting secretly. A person like that, you see she let motherfuckers know who she'd be talking to and dealing with. She put the shit out there, know what I'm saying? So I respect it. I just don't respect that fake shit that I'm perfect shit because you ain't perfect.

If we go to digging through your background, we're going to find a long, fool roll-up, list of niggas who don't bust you up. So I can respect a female who keep it real She might want to bust you up Just like you want to bust her I respect it Yeah Who's some rappers from Louisiana

You feel like we should be paying attention to Hurricane Chris Yeah He got hurricane season two out You know who else Any new anybody knew I'm gonna tell you the new I'm gonna pull it down

Hurricane Chris That's it He just dropped That's all that we need to know right He just dropped Nah but you know Shout out to the whole state man I'm I ain't just

I ain't just start doing this. I've been rocking with the States, so I'm going to go. I ain't going to talk about it right now. We're going to talk about everybody who had made the state great. I'm going to give a shout out to Birdman. You know, I grew up listening to them, you know, like Master Pete. All the greats of Louisiana, you know, they really gave us something to strive after. I used to want them, big, stupid-ass Duke Chains Birdman was winning.

At that time, if you had the shoes that signed to No Limit or cash money, who you think you would have went with? That's fucked up. why you do that bro you're gonna separate Louisiana that's not sad I mean that's the main question that a lot of people ask in Louisiana

is like the master P and bird man I'm gonna answer it for him by the time he really got lit cash money was way bigger than no living man you're right you go back to like 2001 it's more of like an even conversation

yeah I missed the no limit there I wasn't old enough like when cash money came though I was able to go get a CD and put it in a radio player. The hot boys with the afros on there. Like, yeah. So I got to give it to the hot boys.

I got to give it to cash money. I got to get a hell of a hustler. I ain't taking that from P. You're going to have a P-9-fucking with me after this. What about that hot boy? I just would have went to cash money for artists because I like the artists. I didn't say CEO shit and nothing they got gone.

I didn't 100% even dig into it, but I seen crazy shit about the drama with the hot boys reunion over the weekend or whatever. I'm listening to a little. Lil Wayne didn't end up hitting the stage and shit because Turk wasn't there so he felt like it wasn't a real reunion. Oh, I missed it.

There was a whole bunch of different shit that was going on behind the scenes there. Wayne wasn't there. It seemed like BG, Birdman, and Fresh Performing. But they said that everybody left in the crowd and then Lil Wayne came out and did a solo set. Like he was that much,

like I think he really wanted to stand on business in terms of the hot boys reunion. So Turk not being there, he was like, nah, it ain't the hot boys. He felt like it wasn't a reunion. So it was definitely. some miscommunication there. Yeah, it sounds pretty crazy. I think they're going to get that shit together.

Yeah, they should. I think they're going to get it together because it's too much money on the line for that. For like, bro, they're going to sell out arenas. You ever been around Wayne? Like, that's my... Like, when he was on the tour, but he was around this shit too? Like, still to this day, it's like my brother. I can go straight to his house, and when I pull

up, I ain't, the security guards going to hop out out with their guns and I'm going to get the fuck out my way and I'm going to walk in the house. Whether he or not, they make me a sandwich or something, and that's my brother. Yeah, that's hard. Like, when I come to Miami, Broden, I always took care of me. Well, this ain't Miami.

So I'm tripping. Well, anytime I go to Miami, Broden, and I always took care of me from being able to go to the mansion to give me an apartment to hold down. So I ain't got to go to new weird Airbnb's. Like, bro just always held me down in Miami. For sure. That's like my family, bro. Like, real tough. It's deep than rap with me.

I ain't no rap friend. I don't got rap friends. What keeps you motivated with the music and everything? and after all these years and what else is important to you in life besides family and music at this point? I got a non-profit I just started, so I want to be able to help these young gun slingers

who are doing all this census, killing and shooting. I got a nonprofit. It's called a lawyer foundation, leading our youth at life. 501, everything's just got improved. So now I'm looking for a property that I can let kids come to, pick three people from three different careers

and let them spend a couple hours with them after school, whichever area they choose to spend time with some kids. I'm going to have a sports director for kids who are interested in men, athletes, a nurse for kids who are interested in the medical field. And I'm figuring out exactly what the third person is going to be right now, along with counselors that's going to be able to see about what's going on in their life and try to, you know, give support, you know. I want to help the youth.

For sure. Yeah, that's where I'm on. What you thought I was going to say? I'm gonna go by the lamagena getting or bin Laden I'm trying to have sex with all these ice spice That's what you're talking about

Nah, bro I'm focused man I ain't getting off the gas I ain't getting off the gas I'm focused on some real shit I got the sense that you were focused on the long run now Yeah I'm trying to be

Had them 22 money And speaking of bulletproof vests bro They're mad at you for the interview You've been done You know I argue with somebody On the phone about you? For real

When I told him I was coming I was coming Like, you're trying to go do an interview with him. You ain't see that shit he did. You stayed on the phone for, like, a little minute going back and forward. And they was finally like, you know what? I never heard nobody say that like that before. You know what's interesting to me is that,

let's say we were going to make a documentary about Pop Smoke's life. You're going to interview his family, his friends. Who else are you going to interview? The person was involved with the end of his life. Now, a podcast, people are usually thinking of a podcast as just some friendly, fun shit. Like, we're having a nice conversation. even this. We're talking about some serious shit, but it's a good vibe. People are used to podcasts being like that.

Just so that they know it gets grimy, too. We're going to talk about the nastiest shit, the worst shit that's happened. If it's newsworthy, if it's history in terms of hip-hop, I got no shame about having those conversations. It's media outlet. I think, like, that was an eye-opening experience for a lot of people to realize that. But answer this question. So going forward, you still 100% confident in doing shit the way you want to do it, or do you feel like,

I might need to start being a little more sensitive to the people I interview or do you actually understand that you was doing your job? The community that I care about very much appreciated that interview. Okay, okay. I'm speaking to and for the streets.

Okay, okay. So never for a second during all this have I doubted my decision. That's what I was wondering. I'm like, I wonder how this shit fucking with him. I was about to DM you. I was like, I wasn't this shit really. I barely even read any of it, to be honest.

You don't give it down. I don't give it down. You seen. I already know that I made the right decision for myself as a content creator. That, to me, was one of the most important interviews I ever did. So the person I was talking to that was like, he'll coach you vote you. I told him, I said, um, I said, so if I go get a Chinese restaurant right now and make money off of it, I'll invest. I'm a coach of vulture.

I said, man, he figured out how to make money off of our community. And if I figured out how to make money off any community, I'm going to make it. I wouldn't give a damn if I was selling ice to Eskimos. The man figured out how to make money off of Of of certain Content It ain't about money though

Yeah, I don't think it's about the money It's about the importance of Telling these stories, I think The money is a You know, that comes with any job You know But that's not really my focal point It's more about the

Yeah, telling the stories The journalism Got you got you got you Beating the streets I dig that I watched the whole shit I ain't on that I watched the whole shit

Hey man but you know coming from where you're from, that that type of kid is not the, that's not the first time you've seen somebody have a conversation with a kid like that. But the people in the hip-hop industry and shit, they don't necessarily like have to come face to face with, I don't want to call them pure evil, but somebody who's capable of evil like that. They don't understand that if we don't lead the youth in the right direction, then what happened? This shit continued. So what? We throw them in a trash can? Nah, I mean, these young men, these young men, these young men, man still young.

Who's to say they're going to look at life, how they look at life 10 years from now, 5 years from now, 2 years from now. You know, I see a lot of unfortunate shit happen. I have deep condolences for all parties involved. But one thing I know

is we can't give up on the youth. Somebody got to show these young niggas how to move. Not saying that they just 100% the dumbest motherfuckers and can't think for their self, But if we ain't here to give game as big brothers, this shit gonna get worse than it is.

It's gonna get way worse than it is. So I appreciate you opening up and allowing certain conversations to be had and allowing certain shit to be heard because now I can show my kid, hey, you know, this is not the route to go. You see this? Because when I, I ain't gonna lie.

When I look at some of these youngsters, I see my son, bro. I see the youth in their face. I see the youth in their skin. I see how much life they got ahead of them. And I'd be like, man, I wish I could get to some of these youngsters. I wish I could get to this youngster and try to just, you know what I'm saying? I wish it was some kind of way I could get to certain youngsters, bro. I guarantee you if we could show them the shit we know.

It's a whole different life. They ain't going to live how they're living. If we show them the shit, we know that. That's crazy if you think that. You think you're going to take a youngster, show them how to podcast, make millions of dollars, and he's going to say, fuck that. I want to go gang bang and shoot my shit.

Nah, brother. We got to blame us, too. What the fuck we're teaching the youngsters? Well, we ain't teaching the youngsters. Ain't no more big brothers. These dumb-ass niggas putting sticks in their hands and bands in their hands and telling them what to go flip. So if somebody won't open up, you know,

and allow some dialect to happen, then I hope something good. come from me, you know. That's how I feel about it. I don't know. Shut up on that. You did. Appreciate that. So, all right, tell the people what they got to look out for. Man, look out for Hurricane Season 2. It's out right now. You can look out for Hurricane Season 3. It's coming out to that.

Look out for the single I'm going to drop with bullshit. It's called murder. I just dropped another single. Why not I just shot the video? The single fin will come out. It's called Tequila Crazy with Sierra Gates. I'm working. my non-profit loyal foundation new smoothie shop

on the way I'm just working trying to stretch my bank roll I don't have some Adam 22 money I'm trying to do I like it I'm trying to have Hurricane Chris money man I want that Adam 22 money

I'm trying to smoke some Hurricane Chris weed I'm thinking about a podcast too I'm just kidding I'm thinking about a podcast too I'm going to chop it over with you though and just make sure I understand what I'm getting myself into I ain't the type of dive head first

and sit at the bottom of the totem pole I'm gonna do it for sure Hey I appreciate you coming and sharing the story man Everybody check his music out I'm gonna listen to the new The new mixtape on the way home today Look with that

See what you got going on Shout out to Remo Thank you for lining this up Remo ain't shit Yeah Tell him That's my boy Hurricane Chris man

Appreciate you gee That was legendary Thank you so much For your time One of the ones man Let's go Hurricane Chris No Jumbra.

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