No Jumper - Iheartmemphis on Coco Bliss Breakup, Hit The Quan, TikTok Fame & More
Episode Date: June 14, 2023Iheartmemphis talks to Flakko about his rise, his peak, the industry, Tiktok and more. ----- 00:00 Intro 0:05 Flakko introduces Iheartmemphis and Hell Cat The Greatest 2:15 Iheartmemphis talks about ...being consistent on TikTok and Flakko says Iheartmemphis is the Mr.Beast of TikTok 3:30 Iheartmemphis talks about growing up in Memphis with a twin sister, military family, and playing every sport in high school 5:30 Iheartmemphis on throwing parties and making music to play at his parties, making HIT THE QUAN and going viral 8:18 Flakko says hot rapper right now haven't had a hit single like HIT THE QUAN, Iheartmemphis says that song came during a dark time 10:00 Flakko asks how much money he got from HIT THE QUAN 12:40 Iheartmemphis talks about meeting Hell Cat, and she discusses how she got started rapping 14:15 Flakko asks Iheartmemphis if he tricks, beating his case, and what made him want to go into TikTok 17:15 Flakko asks Iheartmemphis what the secret to the TikTok algorithm is, Iheartmemphis says consistency and says he’s still independent 19:45 Iheartmemphis says QC wanted to sign them and that he wanted to shop around with other labels to get wined and dined 22:00 Flakko asks Iheartmemphis how he met Coco on Instagram, making her a star on TikTok, and going Viral at the BET awards in a referee outfit 25:00 Iheartmemphis talks about people getting mad that he was dating a white girl, and how he deals with other dudes hitting her up, and explains how controversy helps views 28:00 Iheartmemphis talks about cheating on his girl at the beginning of his relationship 33:15 Flakko asks Iheartmemphis about his relationship with NLE Choppa, and Coco being in NLE’s video 34:30 Iheartmemphis talks about his beef with the Island Boys, says they were clout chasing, and calls them the Epstein Island Boys 37:40 Iheartmemphis says he wanted to box the Island Boys for a celebrity boxing match ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No jumper coolest podcast in the world, man.
We're back, man, and we're with Memphis.
Yo, yo, what it do?
Yo, Memphis, man.
Who'd you bring with you, man?
Hellcat, the greatest.
Hellcat, the greatest, man.
What's it in it?
Yo, listen, like, we had, like, a long discussion, man.
Like, before we started, started, right?
Recording, right?
I'm like, listen, yo.
And hell cat, the greatest came in, like, shining more to any rap I've ever seen, man.
Man.
What do you do?
I do a lot.
Like I said, I got a lot of things
At the right time, you know, we do music
At the right time, we manage, at the right time,
we babysit, at the right time we do whatever we need to do.
Well, hold up now.
Hold up that babysat.
I've heard that cold before, man.
I've heard sharp, like, say that a lot of times, man.
Really?
Yeah, like that's cold.
Like, that's cold from what pimper, right?
No, I'm not really sure.
You know what I'm talking about?
I ain't no pimp my hair just like this.
I have the only fans, hey, man, listen,
the only fans right now is, you know,
is like the new pepper, right,
because I've seen Sauce Walker.
Right.
Just dropped some receipts.
Right.
How he made, like, three Ms on,
on the only fans from just one account,
and he has 10 accounts.
Salute to my n-sauce, too,
because my shit,
because my shit got everybody calling me
a cat Gotti.
Yeah, salute to my...
Oh, yo, you look like Yagadi.
I do it?
Well, no, no, with the hair.
Oh, okay.
Right?
No, no, no, I look like he'll kick.
Oh, okay, man, hell cat, you know, right?
Because that got like the, like, you know,
the same hairstyle style right, but like, this is like black and shit.
I don't even know who you're talking about.
No, well, hey, man, feel me?
Hey, listen.
And hell cat got he and, you know, well, be fair, though,
like, you probably got my money right now, feel me, man.
Yeah, probably.
He's locked up, so, you know.
Oh.
Yeah, he got to do it, man.
He got free meals.
Jeffrey Mills, he locked up right now.
Memphis, how are you feeling, man?
Man, I'm blessed to be here, bro.
I ain't been here in about a year.
Been in Florida stuck, been in my, in my eight going crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you've been working, man.
Hit the platform hard.
Memphis, are you like the most consistent man on, like social media, bro?
I would like to think so because I have learned through experience
from when I dropped my hit the coin song
I seen what consistency
got me doing that
so when the TikTok had dropped
and everybody was hopping on it
I had figured that out
and matched with that
and I knew
my shit got to be consistent
to be number one
you got to outwork everybody
when everybody's sleep
I'm up posting
no facts
yo listen right
bro like
I tell everybody this right
But Memphis is, it's like the Mr. Beast of TikTok, right?
Like, where, like, where's like that one dude who, like, for example,
Mr. Beast, the master, like, YouTube, right?
Yeah, facts.
The entire algorithm, he'll figure it out.
Facts.
You, like, you figure, like, like, out of this TikTok to where, bro,
like, you got the storylines going, you got the everything going, bro.
Yeah, yeah, I did.
Man, man, right?
Before TikTok, though, right?
bro
walk me through
your
you know
like your childhood
up to hit the quine
I grew up in a little town
called Memphis Tennessee
oh man
bro gangst is from there man
man hey
the realest
treacherous
ooh hey
I grew up with a twin
sister
you got a twin
got a twin sister
where she at now
she in Jackson
no she ain't in Jackson
by Jackson
She in Florida.
Yeah.
But she just moved out here and told her to come on to Miami.
Okay, okay.
But my mama had eight kids, five girls, three boys.
Eight kids?
God damn.
I was raised around a whole lot of chicks, a whole lot of female.
God damn.
Eight kids about the same man.
Yeah.
My dad was in the military.
My mama, you know, was a hustler, but she was a stay-at-stay-home.
You know, she used to do her because she got five girls, so, you know.
But, uh, man, I just played sports, did it all, man.
Everybody loved me.
Which sports?
Football, basketball, tennis, golf.
Wait, wait, track, car.
Man, I did it all.
Wait, basketball, though?
Basketball.
How tall are you, man?
Man, like five, eight.
Make a man.
Hey.
Think he was nice to basketball, man.
The shorter you are, the shorter you are, the taller you feel, and the harder you got to go.
So I had to go extra hard because I was short.
Okay, okay.
Man, it's some people way shorter than me, though, you know, but, you know, I try to stay out of trouble, man.
Yeah.
That's how I grew up, trying to stay out of trouble, you know.
Start throwing parties.
Ah, listen.
Start throwing a parties.
No, it makes sense.
Start throwing the parties.
That's how Memphis had all the holes, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's on parties, man.
Throwing the parties.
I used to sell her too.
I used to sell it.
Oh, you don't crack the coat, my boy.
But you're selling the bundles and had to pull her.
Oh, no, that's on fair, my nigga.
I became a malaise man because I got sisters.
So I know how to treat the ladies.
Not facts.
So I throw parties, let the ladies end free.
Yeah.
All the dudes come pay.
Yeah.
And people used to try to get their tracks played at the party that I throw.
Yeah.
And so many folks was doing that.
I was like, shit, I should make a song and play it in my own part.
Yeah.
So I just started making music, you know?
Like that?
Man, making music.
Wait, wait, wait.
So you just woke up one day, you was never rapping.
You said what, bro?
Opportunity.
I'm about to like start rapping and then boom like the biggest hit.
I used to rap her and her, you know?
I used to rap her and up, but I ain't ever take you serious.
Okay.
Then the dance wave came.
Mm-hmm.
And I seen how folks like,
Cylentzo were blowing up overnight.
I was like, damn, I can do that.
Yeah.
So Rich Homan made the Flex record,
and he had a dance, but he had no song to it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Somebody was like, hey, you should make a song to that dance
and show people how to do that dance.
Yeah.
So I did it because I knew people was going to be doing the dance,
but I didn't know that that junk were going to go stupid viral
after a little freestyle part.
Yeah.
So I dropped that junk, put it on you.
YouTube, the rest of history.
Overnight,
overnight going viral.
I had to ask folks,
am I viral yet, blood?
Am I really that viral?
It was going stupid.
Worth.
Yo, bro, listen.
Bro, right?
Like, your mind, like,
works like an algorithm, though, right?
Facts.
He said, listen,
folks is always going to be doing the dance.
Yo, folks is all...
Bro, like, his mind is like...
Here, right?
Right.
It's like you had the foresight of thing.
Your people is already going to be doing this dance.
Yeah, facts.
Why don't I make a song for it?
It's already a trend. I did it with dab too.
Yeah.
Lean and dab.
Not fast.
And everybody in the A was just doing a dab and dab got so big Caminoon.
So I came with that time.
Oh, yeah.
Made a dab song.
Wake up in the morning, then I tap had to pull up on the block.
Yo, bro, listen, listen, yo, Finn, fan.
Guys like Memphis, yo, you can't beat them, bro.
Listen, yo, because me, right, like, who, like, for example, bro, like, I stay online, just making videos, right?
You have something like where, like, you know I, this shit here is going to be big in, like, two months?
Yeah, I'm on it, man.
Yeah, facts.
That's it, bro.
That's it.
Bro, well, hey, bro, right?
So look, hit the Kwano, right?
Big record.
Huge.
Bro, it's the number 15 on Billboard.
Yeah.
Listen, there's rappers right now.
Who been spit?
I'm talking about, bro, rapping their ass.
I'm talking to my, bro.
Bro, this niggas been spitting, veins popping out with the mathematical,
systematical, methodical, and ain't never having a hot 100 record in their life.
So to get number 15, now, first off, bro, how did it even feel?
to sit back and say, yo, bro, I'm the 15th most-place song in the world right now.
It was a blessing from God.
I ain't going to lie.
It was a blessing.
You know, me, how I treat.
That's God.
That's God.
No, look, look.
Because what you give is what you get.
And I've been giving the universe good energy.
So I needed their back, especially when my back was against the wall.
And it came the right perfect time.
You should have a niggas praying out, man.
Hey, I'm just saying, though.
It was the vibe, like, you know.
And people always seen something in me that I didn't see myself.
Of course.
So when I met Miami and Mike, that's a soldier boy manager.
He was, you know, managing soldier.
I stay in Memphis.
He, across the line in Mississippi.
He used to come to the parties, woo-woo.
But when I got with him, that motivated me too, you know?
Yeah, of course.
Because people seeing some, me, I was just having fun.
But people seeing something in me.
way bigger.
Yeah.
You know,
than just having fun,
like they sing something great.
Yeah.
Yo,
yo,
you know,
listen,
listen,
speak on that,
though,
because we've seen you,
like,
at some point,
like,
with an SODDMG chain.
Yeah.
But it was,
like,
it was kind of like,
we don't know
that he's signed,
he's not signed,
so did you ever sign,
signed to a big soldier?
Not,
no paperwork,
man.
No paperwork.
No paperwork.
You know how to get in that deal.
You know how I go.
You know.
boy man.
No, no, no, no.
Like, you know, you know, big,
big bro, you know.
Big bro, cool.
Oh, man.
You know, soldier, you know,
soldier, you know, but.
He didn't have, bro.
Fitness deck sign,
the Migo song with no paperwork
they get on and they leave.
Damn, man.
No paperwork, huh?
No, man.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
So you got on and said, man,
hey, listen, man.
I wouldn't ever sign with him.
Ah, okay.
I had put myself on, dancing
in my,
Not facts, of course.
Man, hair, right?
So, hey, right, so, wait.
So, how much money did you see at one point with, like, hit the client?
M's, man.
Yeah.
Man, the first two years, like three M's.
Wait, well.
Went on a live nation tour.
Time out, man.
Yeah.
Time out, man.
Fan!
How are you going from me in this young country, nigger?
Bad as hell with all the holes, though.
I told you God, bro.
With three, bro, how'd that change you?
it made me want to be more humble, you know?
Oh, dear.
It made me...
I would have...
I would have...
I would have...
I would have to take advantage.
No, it's...
Yeah.
Because it's scary, you know?
Like, something changing.
Like, that.
It's kind of scary.
You know, so it makes you move different, you know?
Yeah.
Coming up from Memphis.
Man.
Ben, look, daring to be different.
Facts.
You feel me?
Man...
You just...
You know, it's crazy, right, bro?
Right?
Listen, right
Because Memphis is the home of the gangsters, right?
Yeah.
You said, man, listen, bro, I don't know I'm tough, right?
Listen, I know I'm gangster.
I know.
I know I grew up a fight.
You know, I know my adrenaline-style rushing that I hit first.
Yeah, right?
Listen, I know I'm tough.
Listen, you're some whole-ass niggas.
I don't need to talk about, you, yeah, bro.
Y'all be safe.
Yeah, man, feel me?
Y'all be safe.
I'm gonna dance, my nigga, for me, yeah.
Y'all be safe.
Man, facts, man.
Wait, how did you meet in Halcatha?
Man, uh, right when, like, right before I made hit the corn.
Really?
Right before Miami Mike linked us.
Word!
Yeah.
That's day one then.
Yeah, facts.
Mike was my manager, too.
Yeah.
Word.
Mike linked her.
Wait, wait, wait.
Like, so like, right like, what, right like 20...
And right old soldier didn't sign me.
I had my own mother.
money.
Right on.
How can I get some money, man?
Before you even asked me.
How can I get some money, man?
Shit.
Hey, you say you gossip?
How you gotta do?
Talk about the right shit.
Start up.
Only fans.
Only fans.
Only fans.
We're going to talk about that, though.
Stard of OL.
Oh, oh, oh, listen.
Trust me.
Oh, trust me.
Oh, we're going to get to that only fan shit, my d'clock.
Oh, no, trust me, man.
But wait, though.
I, aye, aye, I.
So you been having money, right?
So, why wrapped it?
I was born poor, you know what I'm talking about?
I embrace the struggle.
The struggle's beautiful.
Yeah.
You know what I'm talking about?
But so, you know what I'm talking about?
Memphis said, though, right?
That to sell hair and throw party is how you get the holes.
No, make a funny video, be funny.
You got to be a funny guy.
The girls love a funny guy.
Be funny, sell holes at those parties.
Sell her.
Is that true, though?
I feel like this, uh,
You got to be yourself.
There's too many whole-ass niggas out here.
Oh, no, that's fact.
You know what I'm talking?
That's fact.
These are ho-ass-nicks.
And women get their own bag today anyway.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So you ain't got a trick no motherfucker.
You ain't got a trick no bitch.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, man.
Be yourself.
I'm hustling backwards, man.
What you're trying to trick?
What you're doing?
Boy am I tricking.
Memphis? Listen, though, right?
But you're rich.
Do you trick?
No, I don't trick
I ain't gonna lie
I'm not
I'm a trick
I don't trick
Why?
Because I can do something
better with their money
You feel me
I don't have to
You stingy
No I ain't stingy
I don't know
I ain't stingy
You buy bags
Hair ass and shit
No
Wait
Wait
bundle you're buying
Buntle's for the bitch
Man they can get them
65
I used to sell them
One bundle 65
Any inch you want
Oh
10 through 32
Okay
man. God, then you get defeated, bitch.
I ain't tricking, though.
Hey, man. Yo,
question, man, right? So how did you even, like,
say, yo, I'm about to hop
on TikTok. And, yeah.
Yeah, question, right? So,
go from being this, right?
A popping rapper, right?
Now, some lying
asshole, try some bullshit with you. You beat
the case, and so fuck that. We don't even go
touch on that episode, right? Right?
you went down and came back up right away right yeah so why TikTok so this what I say so
I beat the case mm-hmm you know paid the lawyers off I knew I didn't do it anyway
oh I ain't as home man I had faith I mean I knew my heart I knew that one me I ain't had to do
none of that yeah beat the case went to man went through the talk his time my facts
You know.
How did it affect you, though?
Huh?
How did, like, for example, right?
Like, man, you're in the club with somebody.
Then the next day, when the, when the news pop off, they don't want dissing you.
That's crazy.
Y'all was just drinking.
And they don't want dissing you.
People think it's funny.
Posting you, you know, calling, oh, can I buy some her?
Yeah.
Well, you know, woo-de-woo-woo-ha-ha-ha.
You know, can we meet up here because I don't want this to a-ha-ha?
Oh, why?
They've been waiting then.
Yeah, but...
Piedelphar.
A month later,
I may hit the quorn
and shit, I was on a BT award,
Ellen show,
you know, the Today Show,
traveling world,
every label flying me out
one month after all that BS happened.
Of course.
So,
that was my reward.
That's what I'm telling you.
So why TikTok?
Because I see everybody on TikTok
trying to see my...
I got a game playing, Mr.
So,
Why TikTok is because TikTok is the gold mine.
TikTok is how I can make your song go viral today.
Mm.
I can make anybody's song on Govara on TikTok because I know the young folks.
She was early though.
Because I know the generation.
Yeah.
I always have my ear to the young folk because they're the new generation.
You know?
They looked up to me because they sing something in me.
Mm-hmm.
And I sing something in them.
Yeah.
You know?
So, yeah.
Yo, what's the sauce of TikTok, like, for example, right?
Because, like, again, like, you got 14Ms.
Yeah.
14, right?
And you've took a girl from Ground Zero and got her aims as well, right?
So how do you become successful?
Like, what's the secret to the algorithm?
Consistency, right?
Following the trends.
Copying people.
Good artists copy.
Great artists still.
Take that shit.
Take it.
Take it.
Take it.
Go on your four you can.
He's a real nigga.
He's a real nigga.
He's a real as they copy.
Hey.
Look, see somebody going viral.
Say I can do that.
And copy it.
No, no.
I'm being serious.
That's legit.
That's legit how I do my platform.
I give the people.
See, I've been had a, I've been verified and people been knew my name.
So when I ain't never stopped doing doing music.
I hopped on TikTok to use that platform to promote my music.
Yeah, of course.
I know what I'm doing.
I said when I get 10 million on TikTok,
I'm gonna really like just go back hard with the music,
ha, ha, hard.
I got 14, I hadn't had so many songs,
go viral on TikTok, trending, hit the quorum with viral
in 2020, five years later, the second verse.
No, that's a fast.
I think we got a winner.
People want to tap it up, but they can't get it.
Nothing from me.
Went to jail and snapped it up.
At least I had bum money.
People want to walk around me and try to steal my lingo.
Make sure when you talk about me, you say he's doing his thing, though.
No.
You feel me?
Man, get that remix of Hellcat.
Come on, man.
Get that remix, man.
Man, come on, man.
So why TikTok is because in your creative stage, you're going to make a hit.
Of course.
But what that promotion is talking about.
Yeah.
So I need that promotion because I'm independent 100%.
Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, hit the whoa.
Whoa.
I ain't know that, though.
Yeah, now you know, nigga.
So you're still independent.
Yeah, 100%.
So.
With this is a success, now that's unprecedented, but.
Look, so I'm working.
So I'm working on something.
So that next thing, that's going to be all me, and I ain't signing.
And I know the game.
Question though, man.
Now, now listen.
if, you know, if, if, if, uh, if, uh, if what, look, if, if, if, like, QC come to you and say,
listen, man, got 10 to them to sign right now, man.
They don't flew me out.
They don't flew me out.
They don't flew me out.
They don't flew me out, you know?
Who inside?
I wanted to sign, but I wanted to see what else is out there, too.
I had every label trying to try to fly me out.
I ain't really know the number, you know, but they probably was going to do the same thing,
and try to take me to a label.
So I'm trying to cut out some middleman.
Ah, and go directly.
And I wanted the experience to get,
to get wine and dine by every major label.
Yeah.
I'm going to, I'm going to be at the meeting.
I'm going to be at the meeting.
Put me up.
What are we in for supper?
They got that free food, free flight free on time.
Listen, listen, listen.
Listen up, man.
Brow.
And that's why Memphis can lose, bro.
He, bro, it's a real nigga, man.
No, no, no, no.
Let's not get it twisted.
I feel like the biggest, the biggest thing
a part of my success is how I treat people.
Now, that's a vibe.
Because there's a vibe, there's energy, that's character.
So, you know, that's what, man.
I stand on that.
Treat people with respect.
Treat people like they equal, being humble,
not treat nobody like shit just because of what they ain't got a woo.
That's an hour ray, maybe.
But it has helped me.
Mm-hmm.
So that's how you make it far.
Mm-hmm.
Treat people good.
Like, for real.
Like...
The facts, man.
You know?
I mean, you can pop your shit, woo-de-woo, woody-woo, but mine to hell of a good.
They growled.
They growled.
The facts.
And that number's going to be big, by the way.
Come on, now.
It's going to be big.
What, what, 10-m-m-down-old.
No.
The deal he's going to get is going to be bigger.
Woo.
Cool.
Hey.
First off, Ben, bro.
Hey, look.
That put up for a real, nigger, man.
what?
I'm gonna say, yo, if that motherfucker makes sense,
then why would it?
Let me get a dollar when you do it, man.
Come on, man.
God damn.
Then I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna say,
I don't want to do a interview with nobody but you.
Whoa!
Man, listen, man, facts, man.
The facts, man, Memphis, talk about it, right?
Now look, all right.
Now, listen, right?
So, how did you beat that girl?
Coco.
On the internet, she had, I put up a picture.
I went to the beat.
and a referee outfit.
See, I'm completely different.
Different.
I said, man, I don't want to go dressed off spiffing
like everybody else.
I want to do some shit that's going to be remembered.
And then they kept playing my clip for year after year.
Man, I had on some church shoes, some shorts with a referee shirt.
With a referee shirt.
Yeah, look different.
And the moment I hit that BT award, I went viral on Twitter and IG Facebook,
Facebook because they was like
when you hit the BET after you get out
work, they were saying all
kind of little memes to
just help me out. And they asked me what.
And they asked me what I want on the backdrop. I said,
I want my Instagram 9 at I Heart Memphis.
You're a feeling.
I want to promote me.
I want to be all about me.
You know, not in a savage way
because I have a team, you know, and I
had dancers, but
I want to show him that I'm different.
Of course.
Man, right?
So, so you met her on...
I met her on...
On Instagram.
Yeah, so I post that picture.
I did another story.
I post that pic.
She said something funny on it.
I slid in her DM.
She was in Florida.
I had just moved to Florida.
Yeah.
From Memphis.
Yeah.
And then me and her went to Miami,
and we've been together ever since.
Man, hair, right, here, right?
So now I look, though, right?
So I know, to you like a businessman, right?
When you seen that white girl with the side eyes, you said,
oh, no, she might be a star with me too, huh?
Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.
Like, I seen some, I'm saying some, yeah.
I was like, this is different, you know, dude.
Plus, she had the vibe, you know.
Of course.
She had the, um, she, I seen she had the it factor.
She was funny too.
You know, she was funny.
She was creative.
So I did.
Like you said, bro, like I see some and like, I just hit it.
Of course.
I just be like, man, got to hit that running with the ground and start working on that.
Yeah.
So I sing, you know, and then it had worked.
Who brought up like the idea of doing like I'm just a couple videos and shit on TikTok first?
You or her?
Well, I can't quote, you know, I can't really go back in the past and say what happened happened, but I had like 700,000 back when TikTok used to be musically.
Oh, yeah.
But this back when TikTok used to be musically.
Oh, word.
And she had an account, you know, but she ain't half, like, you know, that many followers are.
But she probably was more active on that junk than me.
Yeah.
But I got back on the app because I was saying they made it TikTok and everybody was just talking about it.
out of than woo-to-woo.
Yeah, of course.
Now, I just started making funny videos, and I fell there first.
Like, it took, like, a month until I mastered it.
Like, I had to just really see, damn, like, what did I do wrong?
Like, what did these people like, woo-do-woo-do-woo-woo.
So once I start doing them with her, the controversy started because of the biracial relationship.
But the people-haired-hens hate-ha-haired, huh?
Yeah, they were hating.
You know, people were hating both sides.
The job was million there.
Man.
This white girl, man.
Man, they were hanging, you know?
So, that's how I went.
And we just started going stupid.
Question, though, right?
So there's always the natural evolution where you meet a chick.
She's, you know, man, she's a ride or die down for you.
Yeah.
And then at some point, like, she gets big enough to where now you have,
where there's other dudes now who are paying attention, right?
dudes who probably wouldn't even look her way.
Yeah, right?
So how did that affect your relationship, man?
Man, well, to be real, I'm not perfect either.
And she got worried about me too.
Now, fact.
She got worried about the girls who trying to disband.
But you all know, but you're the man, know, you're right.
But, you know.
Yeah.
You know, she, you know, so with me,
I can't do nobody wrong
if they try and do me right.
Like, I ain't flaw.
I ain't, I ain't, like,
I'm, I'm 100% lawyer.
Yeah.
So if she ain't want to be with me
and you want to be with somebody,
yeah, like, let let let that be known
and then we can end on a good term,
woo-de-woo-woo-woo-mm.
But, you know,
as long as somebody, like,
I'm fucking with somebody tough
and, like, we can rock out
and fix out problems,
I'm going to keep rocking with it.
So the people that's on the outside, it really don't affect.
It makes me more money, really, you know.
It makes us more money.
Yeah.
It makes the situation more money.
Oh, okay.
I should say.
So, you know, country versus sell, drummer sell.
That's a fact.
That's a big fact.
And to be real, the people on the outside has broke the biggest bag ever.
So, I mean, we're human, right?
So, I mean, you might put some type of way.
Of course.
But money make you have to have.
Bro, listen, though, listen, my facts, right?
Now, right?
Now the question, though, right?
So, now y'all lit, you're at the biggest you've ever been.
She's at the biggest shit had been, right?
Yeah.
Like, what happened?
Like, why?
Now, listen, right?
Here, right?
Look, though, right?
So look, so I'm one of those dudes, right?
Who, bro?
I'm in every common section talking about, man, bro, y'all cap it on my nigga Memphis, man.
Get the...
You feel me?
Right?
Right?
Right.
Right.
Right?
So, like, we know by now and all the slender,
all the lies, all the caption, all the bullshit,
but from your mouth, bro, like, what happened?
Life happened.
Who cheated, man?
It was really, to be real.
I ain't perfect, you know,
I probably were fucking off there some shit earlier in our relationship
earlier, you know, when we were talking.
But the more serious,
We was rocking, you know.
You know, if shit got too toxic,
then I'll just separate myself from the situation.
I ain't fin to hit on nobody.
Of course.
I ain't going to be, you know, doing the most.
So I weren't perfect, but it takes two to a tango.
Yeah.
No.
You know what's crazy, right?
You just said, listen, I ain't never hit nobody, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
But she tried to, like, pass that off.
No, no, no, no.
As a lot of the thing, you feel me?
Yeah, right, so it gets, so, like, that's, that's, that's, that's, that right there is all cap.
I ain't going, I mean, I ain't funny speak on.
Of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, but I don't, I don't hit women now.
Now, facts.
I don't, I don't, I don't do that.
You do that.
You make cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, when you don't hit those, you feel me, right?
Yeah.
Once I say cheap, you know, like, I don't, you know, I mean, maybe in the, but beginning, you know, I fucked up, woo-wo-woot-woot-wooed, woo.
Like, man, we got something going on and we're on top of, you know,
and we on top of social media, you know.
So it was just a little hog and her in their disagreements,
woody-woody-woo, you know, and just, you know, life.
The question, right?
So, hell, can, when you seen the Memphis
was breaking up with his girl, man,
gave him a call?
I talk to my mom was here a day.
Hey, man.
Walk me through that first conversation, right,
when you found out, damn, bro, like, you know, like they're done.
How'd that go?
It ain't no conversation when they're done.
She's too playing, man.
She's my little sister.
Yeah, cool.
She's two players, man.
My brother.
Ah, okay.
That's it.
First of all, you don't even get in their business.
That's their business.
Smart.
Now, question, right?
So now, is it true that you guys are now like back together?
Yeah
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait
Yo, man, how big that happen, man?
Love, love always win
Yeah, right
Who apologize to, like, who first?
I don't know
But for some reason, you know, we broke it out
Now,
Was a Swagboy, like, cue, like,
the beef in the back and forth, for real?
Or was that some, like, some of content shit?
The world might never know about that.
If it's real or if it's a publicity.
Hey, right, look, right?
So, right?
So here's my speculations, right?
Like, you make great content.
You take us through this whole, like, web of storylines, right?
Q does, like, great content and, you know, like, does the cloud chasing stuff too, right?
So I think it's like, y'all, like, plan that out.
Plot that out, right?
and just played us pretty much.
Is that true, man?
Like I said.
The woman never know, man.
No, no, just the thing.
Yeah.
Some people think it's fake.
Some people think it's real.
I just, you know, and it works in my favor.
Yo.
The question, right, right, though.
Hey, right?
Right.
So, look, right.
So, look.
So Q stuff, I do think it's fake.
But.
What stuff?
You know, like him and Coco do.
videos like they feel me right right like one right one I just never got like like a you know
like any type of like sexual thing from them you know right right it came off as if it's like
oh you know you know like this is something like friend buddy shit you right right so I personally
think Memphis say yo listen do videos with that nigga you feel me right build a storyline
build his potter for a nigga you feel me right I'm gonna eat you go
going to eat, you feel me, you know, he's going to look bad, he feel
me, and we're good, right? So, you're saying, though,
hey, you know, the world will never know. Yeah, I mean, look,
what they can know is, when people get,
when people get involved in it, and there's multiple people, and there's
multiple people, yeah, that helps it make it bigger, right? Of course.
So it makes more money. Yeah, of course, man. So,
the most entertaining thing
is a mystery.
Now, listen, as a fact,
right, now wait though, right?
So now listen to it, right?
So now, look,
Annalie Chappel, was you...
Was that some storyline shit, too?
Or was you really, you know, you know...
Was I really would?
I said about that.
Well, you know, I know Chapa.
Oh, y'all cool.
I know.
I'm talking personally.
Ah, all, okay.
He was promoting his music.
Oh, nah, come on, man.
We was all going viral.
I ain't saying the real.
I ain't saying fake.
Yeah.
Promote some music, man.
He was doing his, you know.
See, at that time, I was working with other people.
Yeah.
And she was, too.
Ah.
Yeah.
So I was doing my own thing working with some old chicks.
Yeah.
And she was doing her thing working with.
You called you first, right?
Huh?
Does she like
I'll just call you
first and say,
say yo listen
She should be
She'd be telling me
You know
Like like we was
Kind of separated
Yeah
And just doing out
Our own thing
But you know
We were still talking
You know
She'll tell me
Her plan
Yeah
Now
I always support
Always
Yeah man
Yo
Why are those
Like
Dwebs though
Like the
Oh my God
Now the
The
The freaky boys
Freaky
The
Allah boys
Those
Weird
Dweaves
Straight up
Just fuck niggas, man
Dumb, listen
Bro
First off, bro
A dude
Of your caliber, bro
Who, again, like top 15
14 M's,
Millionaire,
real,
dudes are real good shit
I wouldn't even
like have even like
Responded back to them
fuck nits, man.
So one,
where did that even
like that like rift or discourse
or
disagreement or quote unquote beef.
I don't even call it beef, because, again,
because dudes like Memphis don't beef with niggas like the fucking Island boys.
Right?
So where did that come from?
Cloud chasing.
Trying to clout chase me because they see that I'm the hottest,
fire a thing on the app.
Yeah.
And, you know, they're just mad, just, you know,
clout chasing.
It's all for cloutes so they can make money.
Everything is about money.
Everything is about money.
It's to drive that stuff.
them streams so they can get paid.
They don't get with them about me.
But they're saying that opportunity.
The I'm staying Island Boys.
Oh, yo, let's speak with nothing.
Bro, I just, yo, I come to leave it, bro.
Now listen.
I don't seen enough.
Listen.
Yo, listen.
Bro, listen.
Man, what the fuck?
After I'll see that, bro.
I say, yo, Memphis,
don't know what I meant to their name again, bro.
Because those dicks got some type of.
I'm scared.
I'm scared.
Yeah, yeah.
What?
What?
What?
What was your reaction, man?
I can't believe it.
You know, really, you know?
I mean, I can't believe it.
I don't really know.
You know, like, I need some old proof.
Damn.
Nah, bro, listen.
Bro, listen.
If they've been connected to Epstein since, like, since what even?
Like, five years old?
You know, those boys got to be, like, bro.
Listen, bro.
That's why they island boys.
It was on that island.
Yo, bro, but that's scary, right?
Because, like, for example, right?
Listen, like, so there were already, like, some rumors of, like,
yo, like, these guys are, like, industry plants, right?
But I feel like that just, like, you know, like, you know,
affirmed it, right?
Because if you've had, like, dudes who were, like, that powerful
and in your back pocket, like, since you're five years old, my nigga.
You should take advantage.
How you struggle?
Yeah.
Why would Yelstein be in their back pocket, though?
That bussy was...
No, that right there, you know.
We got to leave that one to a god, you know?
Man, what you're talking about?
Man, look, that right there.
That right there say you never know what people went through or going through.
You know, not facts, of course.
You know?
Leave it a god, man.
Leaving a guy.
Well, wait, though.
All right, but I, man.
Right.
Here, right.
Here, right.
So, these are weird stuff, though.
Like, they were, like,
trying to get Kayla to fight Jasmine on some bullshit.
Now, when you seen that weird shit that night,
who was your reaction?
They're trying to be like me.
Man.
Like, they, you know.
trying to clout chay
through lines
because it involved my name still
you know
it had something to do with me
and they were just filming
just trying to make it go viral
you know
I tried to box them
but you know
dang dang dang dang
trying dang you know so
What the
box them for free
or like a celebrity boxing match
It's a bag yeah
it's a bag involved
A word
fan listen
though dumb viral
I know
I said two versus one
Oh man come on bro
bro listen
Even that bro
They were still loo
Bro bro they're dwebs
Right right
Right now
Question though right
So
Now
Right to look right
So look right
So like
The
The entire common section
Was like
Yo like Kayla just seems
Too invested
and too emotional to this,
man,
for the muscle fucker, right?
Nah, hell, no.
So, so that's not true.
No.
Why should care that much then?
Bro, everything got something to do
with just clout
driving people to your platform
so you can make money, bro, I just told you.
Of course, not facts, man.
It's all about clout.
Faking it and shit.
Yeah, man.
Yo, now a question of a man, right?
So look, so you don't take over
the charts
you took over TikTok
social media yeah
YouTube shorts
you feel me right
you've been doing your research boy
yeah man right
now
like what's next for
like bro like what's next for you man
because like at this point
like where else can you go
business man
make more investments
try to get some
some liquor
you know try to
you know billing brands
putting more folks on
you know
helping people get in certain situations.
Only fans?
More music.
More and more music.
Of course.
You know, yeah.
I'm for the EP soon?
Not, not, not, not, not, not.
Not, not, not, not.
But I help somebody to turn their self up.
No, fucks.
So, give a game only fans, though?
Who?
No, game.
Like, you're telling them.
Yeah, facts, facts, fact.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Now, question, right?
So is Memphis is going to drop in,
and, and, even,
piece soon. Yeah, I just hear my producer
told him get them songs ready. When?
Crazy you mentioned. When it's dropping, man?
Shit, hopefully next month. Nah.
Let's remember you cap it. No?
Next month. Yeah. You gonna see. You can hit me up.
If it don't drop next month now.
You can call me out for it.
All right, all right, all right. Wait, though.
It's a hell can on it?
I throw hell can on it all ways. I'd be
working out of shit, man. Come on. We be working.
Yo, listen, here's the
concept for you guys, right?
A song where, like, she's giving that good game.
I'm talking about, listen, this is how you really, feel me,
like, you know, you know, babysitter bitch, you feel me?
Right?
Right.
You come in with the babysitter game, too, you feel me?
Right?
Hey, right, listen, call it, like, listen, call it babysitting.
You heal.
Oh, ah, he's about the song.
This nigga, he'll.
Right, come on, man, come on now.
He's a song.
Yeah, right?
Giving you a hint, cat
Wait, though
Yo, now
Question of a cat, right?
So
Sauce Walker got, you know,
like, you know, like these holes working on
Only Fins. I'm talking about, but they're working.
Feel me? Five videos a day.
Popping Libya.
Ascheeks, asshole, they're working.
Is Kat going
have some holes on her only fence?
No, that ain't my thing.
Damn, man.
I know everything.
I ain't for everybody.
Okay.
I'm willing to network
with anybody to help them pop, though.
You know what I'm talking
about long as day budget rate.
Mm.
You feel me?
Bidges out here fucking for free.
A wet-ass and no cash,
what the fuck is that?
You know what I'm saying?
All they get that.
Wet-ass and no cash.
What the fuck?
So, you know.
Backwards as fuck, man.
Y'all know.
Ass-balanced.
Man.
Yo, listen, man.
Last question, man, bro.
Listen, man.
In five years, right?
Both for y'all too, by the way.
In five years, exactly what the success looked like for you.
All right, so if I'm not in Miami,
handling business, running a company, signing checks,
putting folks on, you know, having visions for folks,
you know, making music and, man, just,
then I'd be doing it in Cali.
Oh, man, bro, please come to Cali, man.
Turn me up when you can come to Cali, man.
So, man, in five years, like a robot with the working.
That's where I see myself just going crazy.
Just grinding.
Man, eat sleep and breathe, you know, because I broke the cold,
I know what I need to do.
So it's just time to, you know.
So now it's just bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.
Just hint it.
Okay, okay, man.
Katt?
Man, I'm going to tell you, period.
Right now and five years from now.
Okay, okay.
Speak on them, man.
Success, man.
is you ain't doing enough.
It feels like you ain't doing shit.
It feels like you're not doing enough.
You're not being enough.
You got to get more money.
You got to, you lose a sleep over this shit.
You know what I'm talking about?
No matter what pinnacle you're at,
you just feel like it's never enough.
So I'm hoping in five years success feel like that still.
You know what I'm trying?
Man, now Kat, now, again, this is the last question
for you, right? Okay.
You closing it out on this, man.
Your cap, man.
How much some shit's worth, man?
500.
1.5, man, come on, Kat.
I ain't got on all my jewelry.
It's not even all of them, man.
People listen, man.
Shout out to BC Borner.
Hey, man.
This name's all the 3.
Yes, sir.
Hey, shout out to BC creation.
Remember, that's my jeweler.
BC creation, Borner.
He and my motherfucking Jewel.
Man, listen, man.
You know what I'm saying.
You, listen.
Yo, you, B.C.
Houston, Ace Town.
I'm coming, man.
I'm coming, man.
I'm coming.
Listen, bro.
I'm coming.
Listen, man.
Listen, man.
Listen, on that note, man, hell cap, man.
Memphis, man.
I appreciate y'all, man.
Thank you coming so much, man.
Love, brother.
Appreciate it.
Man.
No jump or coolest podcast in the world, man.
We're out of here, folks.
Peace, man.
Good shit, man.
