No Jumper - Indian Boy on Being From Hustler Crip, Lancaster Upbringing, Having 11 Kids & More
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No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world.
And today I am presenting y'all with the first ever Indian boy.
Sounded with it.
How you doing?
Man, you know you got gang in this.
Definitely I got gang in this.
I got Langaster in this.
My dad, homies.
So everybody you brought through us from Lancaster pretty much?
It's all my brothers, my homies, my little Cuddy.
It's my brother-in-law.
We are from the AV from out the 6-6-1 for so.
Nice.
That's what's up.
I'm getting familiar.
You know, I went to the Blueface show out there, got a little bit of,
culture saw what was going on but i feel like the people are uh they're intrigued and uh interested
in in lancaster and palm down that whole area and we got their eyes open we got their eyes and their
ears open right now for sure niggins ain't they ain't dropping no borg yeah that we got their eyes
open and got motherfuckers paying attention for sure definitely uh i was just telling my partners man
i didn't i didn't brought the eye to the city y'all niggas do y'all thing man and you're
often to see more at lancaster for sure yeah yeah that's what's up
All right, so let's do the childhood thing a little bit.
What kind of situation you grow up in?
Shit, I was born in Panorama City, right?
I was raised on Kettering Street, Kettering in Third Street, East.
That's behind Eastside Park.
That's behind A.V. Hodge, that's behind Desert Williams.
If you're from Lancaster, then you know that.
And I wouldn't even from the hood thing.
You know, one parent household, but you feel me?
Mons, for sure, made sure we were straight.
You feel me?
So Panama City is around there.
Andorama city is like around the corner.
Oh.
Somewhere in the valley somewhere.
Right.
But my whole life, I was raised in Lancaster.
Okay.
Do you know what the circumstances were that your parents ended up moving around there?
Separation.
You just separated.
Okay.
Separated it, they all the thing.
Mom's moved us to Palmdale first.
And after Palmdale, then we end up moving to Lancaster.
And from near, we went from Nico Bar, Kettering, Cedar Ave, Beach Ave, and all
through that motherfucker, 10th Street and all,
you know, through there, you feel me,
tearing that motherfucker up.
For sure.
Yeah.
So how would you describe growing up out there, though?
Like, what was the environment like?
How crazy was it?
Lancaster is cool.
It's not too crazy until you run into some.
Who's willing to set an example.
We ain't out here to play.
We ain't, we're not boasting or none of that shit.
You come here and, like I told you, man,
get left out here.
You know, they ain't bullshit
So you got a lot of
To come to Lancaster
And they want to come here to settle down
Or duck off
We're not doing no ducking off
We ain't doing no telfucking. We all saw it
And we're on that, for sure
But it seems like a lot of people like from L.A
have at some point
Had the bright idea to move out to the
Inalove Valley to kind of get away from
all the gang sheds and the craziness
And everything
That shit is going on. It's going on right now
And like I said, it ain't no duggin'
that shit. When you move out
there and you move wrong
it will get done to your ass.
Definitely. But would you say it's like
easier to avoid politics
or drama out there just because it's like
people are more spread out, everybody
and just like on top of each other like yourself?
Man, just
search up the AV scanner, man.
This shit's not spread out. It's so small
in Lancaster, you really got to watch
your steps, you know what I'm saying? And you ain't
walking on egg crates and get your ass.
out here. Nobody's safe. Can't hide here. None of that. If that come here, I guess no.
Right now they're burying. You seem like you think that we're in Lancaster right now.
Because you keep saying here, you come here. When I say here, I'm reping my city.
So when I say here, I'm not going to say there because we're here with it. So you feel me?
We got right now burying their homies where we live and where we stay at. And those are the guys
that got left there. Not no game. And I'm not trying to know.
but that's just facts.
For sure.
Do you have any, like, memories of seeing
some crazy shit when you were a kid
that really, like, showed you what was possible?
Me and my brothers, man, on Halloween.
We over there on Andale,
And Dale in the 5th East,
a freak canine.
Me and my dog, we were my dog in them.
We come outside, and, long story short,
it's like five against 30,
and we're out there squabbing, doing our thing,
but we're just some little dudes.
How old are you in this story?
I was about 14.
My brother's about, what, 12?
Yeah, he's going to be.
We was out there just doing our things,
stood on our 2-10, squabbled up.
You had to fight 30 dudes?
You got our ass whooped down,
but we did our thing, though, you know,
yeah, on me.
We outliers now, I fuck the BRGs.
That's, you know, we was squabble with them.
That's B-R-Gs.
Yeah, shout out Teddy G, B-R-G, that's my boy now.
That's out there in Lancaster.
That's out there in Lancaster.
Back growing up, you know, you got a few
before you can fuel the niggins.
For sure.
When did you first get exposed to gangbanging in general, though?
So after Lancaster of us living right there off with Third Street and Kettering,
my mom ended up moving us to California City,
just trying to like basically get us away from a lot of shit who was exposed to
because I haven't always been from Third Street East, you know?
So when she moved us out there, I met two homies,
which is Little Jake-Compone, shout-out boy,
K-9.
It's my boy locked down right now.
Shout out him, free him.
I met these.
Start hanging out with these.
And I ended up getting popped on me.
Me and brother hanging out outside.
Mom, like, man, you know y'all supposed to be in a house and this and that.
So when as mom went to Walmart, we on the next clock.
Y'all saw it, you feel me?
So me and brother, we go over there with these.
They fin to go check us.
And I ended up, long story short, we checked up all something and this and that.
I ended up getting popped that night.
And shit, from there forward, it was doors kicked down.
It's already up.
I got shot with the homie and mama.
I ain't gonna lie.
Me, shout out lady hurt.
It's good.
Damn.
Yep.
I got shot on my back and shit.
Shot of my chest.
Brother across the street.
So he had him.
He was a young man.
So he was across the street laying down over there.
Your shower laying down.
Because in the shower,
you know what I'm saying?
Trying to dodge this shit
what's going on in the real world.
Wait, really?
You were in the shower and the house got shot up
and you ended up like having to dodge bullets in the shower?
What the fuck?
There's plenty bullets on the show.
That's insane.
Also, also.
I don't think I've ever complimented somebody's hat before,
but that hat is cool as...
Oh, bad.
They don't see that it has the Simpsons logo on this side,
and then it got the clouds, like the Simpsons intro.
I walked in the mom's house and grabbed it off the shelf.
That's hard.
Oh, God.
Shout out mom's seat.
You got a mom's shit.
You grab a little bit of anything over there.
Oh, shit.
I got put on.
Wait, but so that situation where y'all got shot up,
was that, like, him being in the shower, it sounds like a drive-by.
So I ended up...
I was younger, so I was like...
So look, I ended up getting shot, right?
And then when I ended up getting shot,
that's crazy, Rinkton.
Brother was across the street, brother was across the street.
I got them crickets.
Watch out.
Hey, so brother, brother across the street,
but he's not knowing because he's just trying to duck those.
I'm over there.
I got smacked in my leg first, boom.
I ran to the door.
I see my K-9.
He got his arms open, like he's trying to catch me
because he sees what's going on.
He's trying to catch me before I fall in.
I'm not knowing I'm hitting my chest.
So after I fell in, and brother, like, nigger, he's like, oh, don't, bro, you hit.
I'm like, I'm hit, what?
I look down, and the bullet is coming out, slows them.
You feel me?
I kind of brushed it off, and we just lay down in that, you know?
So, yeah, it's like, it's a lot that come behind it.
And then, you know, I got shout up to homie mom.
So after all this shit, man, I ended up riding to the hospital with her and shit,
and she holding on to me, stressing me out, got me overstimulated in the n-
I ain't gonna lie.
Damn.
But you're all right?
Yeah, yeah.
I was 14, though.
Almost passed and shit, but I was straight.
Woke up.
I was good.
Well, you almost bled out?
I had eternal bleeding.
So it pierced my lung, and then it hit my rib, and then it came out my back.
I mean, no, it came up, and it went out my chest.
Damn.
That's serious.
Okay, so, like, how far are you making into school?
Shit, 12th grade.
But I was at Phoenix, bad.
I was at Phoenix, North.
They're f*** up.
I'm on Brother.
We was over there squabbling over Brother, no cap.
Get dope.
Get those in that, well, fucking.
Yeah.
Shaking the ground in that, man.
Dead homies.
So school was crazy every day?
And I went to 11 grade, right?
I ended up dropping out before 11 grade.
Brother got into a squabble.
The red dudes over there, right?
Came over there like six, seven deep dead homies,
and we buggy down on shit.
I'm God.
Tell me I'm lying.
Damn.
And signed back into school.
And signed back into that,
just to do what we do.
We got a program proper, right?
We ain't gonna just bring the rollers out.
So you were seeing options in school like every day?
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
And dudes fighting school, like, all the time,
or you try to keep it, keep it chill while you're in school?
Nika, we own that.
We on that.
I'm gonna fuck who you is instead of, we're on that, we on that, for sure.
Is that part of, like, while you ended up dropping out?
Is it because it was just hectic every day?
Nick, I was tired of doing homework.
Tired of that shit.
I ain't gonna lie.
I was ready to get to it.
I had already got shot and shit.
I was already introduced to my hood.
And they was over there getting money.
They offered them on 8 and 14th and 3rd Street.
You feel me?
They over there getting money.
I didn't give my f*** about school.
I'm trying to get me some chip.
I was already driving at 16, you know?
Yeah.
I mean, so how old dudes getting money at that time?
Like, I mean, you don't got to say nothing that you did, but like...
He was rapping and dancing.
Okay.
Dead humis.
He's just rapping and dancing.
He said every year.
That's the truth.
Jackson 5.
Something like it.
That style.
Oh, we banging the three today?
That's what we're on?
Every day.
I hope the camera can see it.
Oh, you just got that.
I've seen that.
Yeah, you got it right on your forehead, huh?
Damn.
So, okay, let's break it down, though.
You from Hustler Crip.
At first, when I've seen you, I'm looking at the H.C.
on your face trying to figure out what kind of hoover you were.
Yeah, that's funny.
Then I figure out, okay, he's a little.
a hustler crypt. But you're banging the three, so y'all are trays?
Yeah, we're from 3rd Street, East and Avenue Aide.
Okay.
Not going to lie. East Side Park, you know, where crack at, for 3rd Street hustlers.
Uh-huh.
And shit. I got to do is just jump off the Eway, come down, I, make it right, jump out
your car. You're going to see what the fuck going on.
Mm.
For sure.
For sure.
So, um...
We'd be in all kind of shit.
So...
Really?
Yeah, we be in our...
We're not just buckets here and there.
and we in all kinds of shit.
So when you pull up, you might try to miss a, but we all saw it for sure.
Sure.
All right.
So, I mean, yeah, but, like, growing up, what would you say, like, the lifestyle was?
Like, what kind of shit we are you doing when you're, like, you know, 16 after school,
hanging out on the blog, et cetera?
I'm just trying to, like, people, like, what the lifestyle is like in Lancaster.
16 after school, right?
Because I was still in school at 16, but after school, yeah, after school, we was driving around, man.
We was in and out of bars, though.
Man, shout out my thirsty
The barstow, man, I ain't gonna lie.
We was in and out of barstow.
Shut up.
We all in Vegas.
We were just young, man, with motion.
We made this shit look good to old ass that was over there off a wallpost, man.
It was over there.
Yeah, had this shit going on.
Everybody.
Everybody is a...
We wouldn't give a fuck if the engine was breaking, bro.
Swear to God, we're on the road.
Yeah, we're getting there for sure.
Okay, so Vegas being, like, relatively close,
that's like a common trip for y'all that's-a-taker?
Yep, yep.
Would you go to Vegas more or L.A. more?
Both.
Yeah, both.
We kind of switch it up.
Niggum, I'd take a plane ride from Vegas 30 minutes.
You're right here.
It's that easy.
Oh, you just take a plane.
We'll just take a plane.
I mean, if you got a drive, then we'll drive.
But if we want to get here, take that little 30-minute issue.
It's like what, 110, whatever, 120?
I mean, you're going to Vegas, like, to party and turn up?
Versus, like, you go to L.A.?
I don't even know.
I got my kids out there.
I got kids out there in Vegas.
And then we got homies.
And then HIPP little cany.
This is my little brother from the section.
He ended up passing on out there and shit.
You feel me?
He's out there bugging down on heels from the section.
I'm God.
For sure.
So do you view, well, okay, was it like already, like,
written in stone that you were going to be
from the hood that you ended up being from?
or was there ever like a possibility
that shit was going to go a different way?
I said, I ain't ever knew this shit,
but I found it crazy that I grew up on 3rd Street
and then somewhere down the line I ended up from 3rd Street.
I never had heard in my hood when I lived on 3rd Street.
You feel me?
Because you're just a kid?
Yep, I was just a young dude.
But, yeah, I figured it out down the line and shit,
niggum been over there ever since.
For sure.
Like, are the cops on it with you all to a crazy extent?
You hear about gang injunctions and all kinds of crazy shit in L.A.
And other cities, like, is it like that out there as well?
Like, is there an overwhelming police presence?
Free Gwap.
I'm God.
Yeah.
They all right, but they, like,
ain't no indictments and shit going on out there.
Okay.
But they all are sorry.
Hey, look, if y'all know, y'all know,
free guapo, dead homies.
Really a step up from this 300 shit, man.
Would he kill a cop or something?
That's what you're saying?
Free Miami.
You're alluding to something.
I just don't know what.
Nah.
When you asked about, you know, free guat.
Googly.
Great googly moogily.
Okay, wait.
So, all right, you drop out of school in 11th grade,
then, like, what's your life, like, around that era?
Like, you didn't go to community college or nothing, I'm guessing?
No, so after 11th grade,
I ended up having
Oh no
This is before I dropped out
10th grade year
I ended up having my first kid
And then once I ended up dropping out
I'm saying
I was you know what I'm saying
So it to the streets and shit
I was shit more or less
Getting money
Making babies
I got eight baby moms
I got eight baby moms I got I got 11 kids
Who
Yup
I feel stressed out
Just thinking about that
That's insane.
Hey, look, this shit is stressful, man,
but this shit is real life.
It's real.
So I'm guessing you can't even back up
out a parking spot, huh?
No, we gotta watch the left and right
when you back out that.
You just stuck in there.
That bitch might be there with a knife.
It just feels too good.
You can't pull out.
No condom.
I've been there.
I've been there.
My whole life, I've been a little too on point.
Raw doggie, gang.
I'm not going to think it.
Yeah.
I like the feeling.
I'm the feeling type of guy.
There's no other options.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Like one day I'm gonna have to tell my kids.
I got a plan B in my back door right now in my car.
You got it on deck.
Hell yeah.
That's the only other option.
Yeah, I'm through now.
It's you done having kids?
Hell yeah.
You gotta get that vasectomy.
No.
I heard that shit hard.
Like you can reverse it later on, no problem.
I don't know.
I'm cool, though.
I'm cool on that.
I hear a great thing.
I'm thinking about getting my shit.
It's intense as well.
You say the water.
Bro.
So this, niggas.
He ain't get no dick sniff
Or no nuts sniff
You ain't him
No, you're still nut
It just don't have nothing in it
That shit, whack
You can't make no baby, nigga
Whip, whacked, that bullshit
Yeah
But think about the games
That you can play with the girl
You can tell her I love you
I don't have a baby with you
Just shoot the club up
Baby, you're about to have my baby
That's you
He's gonna be turning like
You're gonna have this baby
She'll be waiting for 18 months
Yeah, she can be waiting
And wait and waiting
Until she realized that shit ain't ever coming
That's grimy
get him a mastectomy and they never tell us all.
I'm good though, man.
I ain't.
I got 11 kids, though.
You with one of the baby moms now or not?
Hell yeah.
She's somewhere out.
Oh, she's sitting down somewhere, yeah.
Definitely.
So, I mean, the first baby must have felt like a big deal.
Yeah, that was a big deal.
I mean, shit.
She don't want to help my eyes up to this shit.
You know?
She can't stand me like I'm up.
You know, she opened my eyes up to this life,
to this real life shit.
Right.
So, yeah.
So, I don't know, somewhere along the way, whether it's baby four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
There's got to be like a moment where you're like, I can't keep doing this.
It's too expensive.
Hell no.
This is craziness.
Hell no, I wasn't pulling up.
Man, was in that.
I ain't going to.
And you don't believe in abortion, I'm guessing?
Or you have a few abortions along the way, too.
I got a couple.
I got a couple.
What's it?
Shout out to my 11 kids.
How old is the oldest one?
Hey, so, Jake.
She's 15.
15.
She's 15.
Yep.
For sure.
All right, so along the way, all those years of you being in the streets and whatnot,
you get arrested, you get locked up.
Like, you have a-man, hell yeah.
Me and my brother in them, I don't know if I don't know if Godot.
Remember, me, Good Doe, K-9.
We had Lancaster City Park drinking Skyvaka.
You know, the blue bottle of Skyvokka.
Oh, yeah.
The rollers janked up on a n-shed.
What the, we in a Honda.
Posted up.
They put a n-under-old.
I had a warrant, so they grabbed a n-up, put a nigger under.
Okay.
And that was my first time ever going to jail.
We went right here to a similar hall right here.
Okay.
I was probably like, what, 17 then?
About to be 18, 17.
How eye-opening was that getting locked up?
You get put on.
These niggas took me to jail for a bottle of liquor, right?
And driving a car with no license.
Right.
That's bullshit.
Which, like, to normal people probably sounds like a reason to get arrested
for having an open container in a car.
But from your perspective, you're like,
there's all this other shit I'm doing.
Y'all got me for this?
Y'all looked over all this other shit
and y'all came for this shit.
Yeah, and you had a warrant, you said.
Yeah, it was like for driving on no license and see.
I was young.
Like I said, I had a car at 16,
so we always just been wiggling.
Oh, yeah.
You see me?
They shouldn't get booked for that.
But so when you were locked up, though.
Yeah, they got let go for that.
And you got a, yeah, they said, you got suspended license.
And I said, what the fuck?
But that's like the main time you got locked up or it was other times as well?
Oh, yeah, after that.
I got locked up after that too.
A bunch of times?
Yeah, I got locked up after that a lot of times.
We'd be in and out there.
Oh, yeah?
Yep, for small shit.
You managed to avoid, like, prison like that?
Yeah, I ain't never been.
Who wants to go there?
I've never been there.
No, yeah, for sure.
But, okay, so at what point you start rapping?
You've been rapping since you're a kid?
So I started rapping when I was 15, right?
But shit.
I started rapping forever.
I started rapping when I was 15.
Rapping up the street with a nigga, bro.
Like, I was young, like being irritated and shit.
He's rapping the whole way home and shit.
Like, bro been rapping forever.
Turn the beat off and shit.
Like, you never shut up.
The whole time you're driving, like, you feel me?
And I ain't gonna lie.
That shit got me this far, I mean?
Yeah.
But it seems like you started taking it more serious,
like, over the last year.
Yeah, in March.
I ain't going to lie.
In March, I brought my homies out.
My homies came out behind it,
and these guys showed me that,
it don't matter about who said this or that
or who, you know, not with you or whatever.
Just do you.
And damn near it took too long to do it,
but so when I started doing me,
that's when I was able to realize,
like, I could do this shit by myself
and whether my people were in here behind me,
I'm such a real, I'm gonna still bring my ass out of all.
Dead humis.
That's how Lancaster do shit.
We're not like, uh, like, uh, like, bro.
Look, we, we go,
we didn't went through shit.
And bump, I'm talking about bump, broke the kitchen table.
And we still fin to link up when this nigga called me.
We're fin to do that because, bro, that's how Lancaster connect.
And this is my blood brother, brother, but I'm talking about my homies, my, you know, my
homies, my brother-in-law, it's my cutty.
It's my cutty right here.
All these things that's standing around.
That's how we bump out there in Lancaster.
Don't nobody go on notice, and we not let nobody take the under, you know, we own that every time.
So do you feel like you're, you guys are more like a family unit than some of us?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, trade blocking 27, dead looks, you feel me.
If it's not that, I mean, I don't really know what it is.
It's really, you know, like I said, we ally with certain people,
but trade blocking 27, that's like a, that's a family for sure.
Mm, yep.
That's what so.
But so, do you all, like, connect with anybody in L.A.?
Or do you have, like, any kind of ties other?
I connect with the A14 hustlers.
And when I say the A14 hustlers, that's from Lancaster,
to LA all the way to Washington.
I connect with all of them.
If you're from Hustler Crip,
then we locked in.
Okay.
I ain't going to lie.
So is Hustler Crip big in L.A.?
Hell, yeah.
I'm getting for me.
Y'all gonna see me out here August 14th, man.
I don't know where we're gonna be,
you feel me?
It's still loading, but yeah.
What, you're gonna do a show or something?
Yeah, I'm gonna perform that.
Yeah, I know, for sure.
Oh, nice.
That's what I'm just up.
Yeah.
But, okay, when you start rapping, though,
like, you decided to really kind of make a run at it
and I actually shoot some professionally shot videos
and shit like that, you just felt like, you know,
you'd been doing your thing long enough.
It was time.
I ain't going to lie, right?
So before I started jobbing, right,
bro, gonna vouch for this.
Bro, wanted me to make some booty shaking music for the b-the-thes.
He, like, make that shit for the hose, right?
But just the inner me is I got to give it to them raw, right?
We're gonna still do the booty-shaking shit for the hos.
We got some shit coming, though.
The inner-me, I had to give it to him raw,
and when I gave it to him, bro,
it presented all of us, not just me or the-
It presented all of us, bro.
and I feel like that put a big-ass eye on Lancaster.
They finish shut their mouth in just a second.
No, I feel like you are smart to trust your instinct
because my theory is that every rapper,
even if you want to end up being a Bruno Mars
or you want to be a booty-shaking artist or whatever,
you better start rapping on the block.
Your first videos, you've got to be,
the people need to see that you came from a real place
before they could take you serious doing other things.
But look, it's so cold, right?
because brother, like, he got a stout like this.
He put the two-finger shit, you know what the gangsters said,
with the booty shaking shit.
So cuz shit like shaking the room.
I just heard some shit with Giddo and RJ, dead homies.
I said, loop to beat on dead looks.
I'm gonna go ahead and jump on that, for sure.
We got some, you know, but it's still gonna let them know
what we got going on and then let them know
that we're waking up this summer, 26.
Definitely.
I mean, I know I reached out to you from just like seeing your videos and stuff like that,
but if you had like a lot of different people reaching out and showing love?
Shout out of my n-diem, bro.
This, uh, man, I tapped in with him through my cuddy, right?
Boom.
God.
And I tapped in with him through my cuddy.
He came out, came to our city and shit.
Through the grace, you know, of God.
And then him showing up, I was able to get an eye from you.
You feel me?
It's my boy, so.
Shout out Zion, they're doing.
No, that's what's what?
But, okay, so you only put out, what, three videos?
Three videos.
I got one right now.
I'm gonna put you in it.
Oh, there's gonna be.
Yeah, you in it.
The big on me.
Let's get it.
Go in there.
Don't get the Birkenstocks in it.
They didn't really play her, you know?
Don't get the old-ass-elevins in there.
Oh, no, no, no.
I had to grab these old-ass-11.
My cameo, got to cut the feet off.
But, yeah, I mean, I don't know, like,
how much you record or how much you're actually working on the music.
Were those just like three best songs you had?
Shit, since we just put it out there,
so all the shit that I got right now,
this is that I recorded last year.
I was just focused.
Last year I was by myself for a little minute.
I was able to sit down and just think,
and I made like six songs,
so everything that I'm dropping now is all the shit that I made.
Like the last one,
step for him is featuring my little brother,
this Chase-O.
You feel me?
Yeah.
I don't know if you've seen it.
when I sent it to you.
Oh, it's the newest one?
Step four.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's shit hard.
Me.
But how did you get the name Indian boy?
So my mama is Cherokee Indian, right?
And then she's a little bit of white, man, all that.
So I used to call myself the black Pisces.
My mom, I'm like, we ain't Mexican.
I'm like, all right, mama, you feel me?
I know what we really are and shit.
So I'm like, man, I'm gonna just put the Indian boy
in front of the dub.
My name from Lancaster is Trade Up.
That's my name.
320, Trey Dub, but...
Okay.
Indian boys, like a...
A rap name that I'm comfortable with.
I still...
I put the dub.
If you ever hear my songs, I say it's Dub.
Oh, okay.
So, you know, sonny.
They know who want you.
That's just, uh...
Yeah, I mean, that's one thing I realize
as time goes by that everybody got kind of like a sneaky hood name.
Yeah, you got to, like, you got to put the rap name on it,
and then squiggle the hood name in here.
You know, the Relyer's Beyonce.
But that's what's funny too is that a dude will have...
Duck in the rollers.
Hey, we ducking the rollers.
Dude does have a rap name?
No police.
That sounds like some hard ass shit.
And then they'll have a hood name that sounds like some shit that they were calling them when they were 13.
That's what they was calling me when I was five.
Yeah, see?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
I like 20s.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
But my stepdad gave me that name.
Okay.
So you never had...
I'm not a lot.
Like, I think the reason why I probably clicked your video in the first way is because when I saw Indian boy,
I immediately think of Indian Red Boy, who,
He was from out here and basically like went viral for dissing the Nipsey Hustle mural,
and then he got on live.
I don't know him.
Yeah, you never had anything to do with him, no.
Okay.
So, yeah, that was all, like, first.
I know Indian blue, though.
Shout out him.
Oh, yeah?
Thursday, yeah.
Oh, okay.
I don't know him personal, but I fuck with his music.
Wait, there's other Indian boys?
Indian blue.
For him.
But is there an Indian boy lineage?
No.
Are you down to take on?
I'm the only Indian boy.
Oh, okay.
Yep, sure.
All right, got it.
But I don't know.
So, okay, one thing that kind of struck me is when I had you come out,
because when I saw that blue face at a show in Lancaster
and I was going to pull up, I said, whack, I got this dude, Indian boy,
you got to get him on the show.
That's his hometown.
If he performs there, it'll be a crazy moment for him.
I could really kind of like launch his career in a lot of people's eyes, right?
And whack is always like everybody I ever told him they need to put on a show or whatever.
He always comes through.
But I know that was like.
like a special moment for you too because like you're even your mom and like your family members
and stuff was showed up in the crowd right?
Look you know moms and them moms and them always support me it was crazy right and uh this
you know even though i just said i'm not mesking and that because that's just the truth but
we're not racist in our city i'm fuck with my messkins it was out there throwing eight threes up
they was moving out there i'm like oh damn they know my shit yeah you know what i'm saying
i didn't expect to come out and then i got a little wave even it was just a little wave
you know what i'm saying i didn't expect to have a little wave that was actually rocking with a
I'm saying?
Yeah.
Because it was interesting crowd-wise, because, like, Blueface, like, when he does a show,
the crowd is a lot of women, typically.
Like, I've been to a bunch of Blueface shows.
It's usually hell of girls.
And then you come out, and I'm kind of, like, seeing in the crowd that the dudes who are
there that know about gang, they're kind of the ones that are showing love and, like,
actually, like, recognize you and know what you got going on.
That was kind of interesting.
That's, uh, Lancaster Games.
I'm not going to lie.
They really don't fuck with other Lancaster games,
but I've seen a couple faces out there.
And shout out to the hovers.
Shout out Jeff V.
I'm got ahead of my KC from 9-4.
That's my boy.
God was out there giving it up.
He was out there in a wheelchair, giving it up on me.
And them, they're raised me too.
You see me?
KC., bullet luck and them, seven boy in them.
They're my dogs.
And I ain't just throwing no names around.
They're really my dogs.
Yep, Snick.
I ain't going to lie.
Shout out him.
No, that was crazy because Jab 5 got like a few.
female fan base it seems like, too, because he just swole this.
They just freaking out about him.
He got cracking, he got cracking.
He don't got to do that gang shit no more, niggins.
Yeah.
That's what I was just saying right now.
I'm going to lock in with my brother and make some shit.
So we can have a bitch that's coming in and spilling in on this.
We don't always got to be, you know how we do it.
I don't always got to be that, though, for sure.
Yeah, no, facts.
You know, if if you don't go the right way, righteous, then we can take it there.
Yeah.
No, it's definitely good to be able to hit.
Because women are, like, passionate music,
fans in a way that some guys aren't.
Yeah, yeah.
Women care about, like, a hit song
or like a dope song.
When the bitches start loving you,
then that's when they play your shit
for their friends.
Once they play your shit for their friends,
it's up.
That's when they're right.
Yeah.
The club, we're in their car when they loaded.
They play them over a fucking 10, 12 times
what they, you know what I'm saying,
in one drug.
Definitely.
Hell yeah.
So are you the first person from Lancaster
to have any kind of motion rapping,
or is there anybody who came before you?
I've been telling this shit to my family, right?
It's satisfied.
because couldn't do this, right?
And I'm not just speaking.
I'm speaking on who's not us.
Because my people have been doing this shit for a minute,
you know what I'm saying?
But I've been doing this for years.
I'm talking about the other side and them.
You go to the other side and them.
Everybody cool, but it took for me to open my big mouth,
man, to get an eye on our city, man.
So, yeah, sure.
I'm probably the only from out of there besides me and my people,
like I said, trade blocking 27.
If it's not us, or I'm saying,
or that's really locked in as family members.
then yeah for sure I'm the only one sure no that's dope though because I mean I feel like
it really only takes one person from a city to sort of break open and get like more and more
attention to put on other people as well you know so it'll probably be a good thing overall for the
city yeah are you seeing that support though like locally does it feel like there's an appetite
for it where people want to get behind somebody from the city I ain't gonna lie you uh you uh
bringing me out you I'm saying I ain't gonna lie that gave me you
an extra umph to niggi keep this shit going because shit
they didn't just turn up because you said turn up
they like when I came out they like we noticed
and Adam Brody it's on so you feel me
yeah I feel like I got I got support there
I got support here you know what I'm saying and all
I got support everywhere for real for real for real yeah
it's pressing play long as they press and play
it's all I won't give a if you hate me press play yeah
but I feel like a lot of times especially in like a small
town or a smaller city that the people need to feel like is lit beyond their city before they
can like fully adopt it like they they want to know like oh adam and whack said that he's cool
blueface see me like he think he cool all right like now we'll fuck with them but if it's like just
homegrown they a lot of times like are real hesitant about getting behind something yeah so uh
before i did this show i don't know the god name so i'm not going to put nobody name out there but
i tapped in with a dude boom and uh i ended up
up booking a studio session.
Boom.
I clicked on his shit,
and I see he know a lot of people that,
you know, don't fuck me or don't like me or whatever.
So when I booked it,
the n-send my $30 back.
You know who is.
He sent my money back,
and then he seen me at the show.
I was like, oh, I'm looking at you.
And I'm like, nigg,
out my face.
I was ready to slap that nigga.
After I got off the stage,
I came into the crowd and partying with the thugs,
bro.
I brought my n-in-v-v-W-W-W.
Wait, so he rejected your studio booking?
And then seen me on stage, game.
But why did he reject it?
Because he thought you just looked like a crazy game member?
They were like from the far west of Lancaster or whatever, bro.
But I don't know if they got the studio around the hood or just somewhere in there.
I know where niggas be, but just I don't know the exact spot.
But they end up sending my 30 bucks back.
Dead homies.
True story.
That's RJ.
I'm not lying.
I'm not lying.
Niggas did that shit, bro.
And then seen me at the show.
And then when I came down to party with the thugs, he put his hand out.
I don't keep dafting, but I kept it pushing.
Damn.
Yep.
That's crazy.
You think that the game rivalries and everything will hold Lancaster back or not?
No, because, shit, we don't, we bump with anybody.
It's not about that.
We're trying to get money now.
I mean, like I told you earlier, I dropped out of school for this shit to get money.
Rapping was just something fun to do.
But after March, when I seen that 20,000 views, I said, well, we're here now.
It's all.
And 20,000 to me is a lot
because we cut from shit.
I don't cut from shit.
For sure.
I mean, picture if there was 20,000 people in a room,
that would be overwhelming.
Picture of it was $20,000 in my pocket
when I did that video.
You feel me?
I probably wouldn't have been as apt as I was.
I'm taking that shit personal.
Yeah, because we dead broke doing this shit.
Damn.
Yeah.
Sure.
Oh, wow, okay, yeah.
Hell yeah.
Not like dead broke,
but I'm not struggling,
but I'm saying like we're not in a place
where I go buy me a f***,
or G.L. 63. I can't do that right now.
So it's like, I'll put them all into this shit.
No, for sure. I mean, that puts it in perspective, though, for sure.
That, like, this is like, it's not just you're like some dude who's just doing it just
a do it, you're doing it because you're really trying to find a way out the city.
Hell yeah. Hey, I wish I could bring my kids in this motherfucker.
My kids, they little ass, they flip off the walls to that shit.
Oh, for real?
Hell yeah. My little sons and shit, they put that shit on repeat, man, and they, and they,
actually my shit.
That trips them out to see the dad.
Yeah, yeah.
The last video you see them little dudes in the backseat,
that's my nephew and that's my son.
Oh, hell yeah.
Yeah, shut out them.
That's fire.
So, all right, just to, like, know a little bit more about you, though,
like, what would you say, like, the artist that you, like,
listen to the most?
I fuck with Mazi.
No cap.
That's what so.
Yeah.
You know that what...
I listen to everybody, but, like, a rapper that I'm inspired by you, you know what I'm
and Mazi, I fuck him.
That's funny that Mazzie comes up
because you know that white dude
that I was walking out of here before?
Yeah.
You ever see Swamp Stories on YouTube?
Nope.
Oh, okay.
He's like big Nourcal, like drama, YouTube or whatever,
like reports on all the beefs and shit like that.
I be on L.A. Hood Media.
Oh, yeah.
I'd be on A.V. scanner.
But yo, yo, I had just asked him,
I just asked him, like,
I'm like, I brought up Mazi
and he just shot it down right away.
He's like, nah, that's 2016.
Bro, right now when you went out,
you was like, this Indian boy,
I'm trying to say what's up.
That dude kept pussy.
nothing to heart.
The model.
I wasn't going to tell you who he was.
I didn't want to blow a spot on.
I'm here with my people.
We're trying to let niggas know who he is.
Whoa, who's your favorite rappers out of L.A.
L.A.
Indian boy.
I ain't going to lie.
I don't give a fuck about nobody politics, bro.
I'm a big sad, 1900.
He ain't something like a n-in-his-in-his-in-rack-bang.
And if he's not bullying this city,
working his way through this.
No, yeah.
Every time I click on this shit, it's like a meal or better.
You feel me?
No, he goes crazy, yeah.
Hell yeah.
I just seen that nigga in Vegas.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah, a nigga out there going to.
That's what's up.
I guess I had like five S580s parked up.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, doing some player shit.
That's legit.
What's the Indian boy turn up, like, on Friday night?
What you're getting into?
We've seen the henny and the weed being consumed on this part.
No, that hennies.
I be putting that on hold sometime.
I got a newborn.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, so I only, I drink that when I could,
but the weed is all day, you know,
but I got a newborn, so I'll be mostly in the house.
Friday night, you know, shit, you got me outside here,
you know what I'm saying?
Good Friday night, I'm in the house, so.
For sure.
It ain't outside, man.
Yeah.
But the roller is in death.
You go to jail, you get your ass smoke.
So you had that place in your life where you don't want to necessarily be outside
on the block all night?
I don't have to.
I did it up already.
And then on top of that, shit, I'm 31 in 10 days, bro.
Yeah.
I'm got to do shit.
I don't go outside and then get tricked out my position
when I know what I got going on.
For sure.
Yeah.
That's important for sure.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
So what's your plans like going forward for the next year, let's say?
What do you feel like you need to accomplish going to the right direction?
You talked to any labels at all?
It might be a little early for that.
No, I had a...
I had a producer, he kind of like known out here a little bit, like in LA and shit.
DJ Flip?
Nah, Diggler, baby.
I don't think I know.
You know, man, he ain't a nigga named Diggler baby, but I just, yeah.
Diggler like D-I-G-L-A.
Got it.
But shit, I ain't really been tapped in, bro.
I just been trying to do my own right now as far as just pushing all my stuff.
Yeah.
Definitely.
But, yeah, are you trying to, like, drop a project, or you more just focus on music videos for now?
After this music video we're going to do right now,
I got one more,
I got one more video I'm going to do with my little cousin
and then I'm trying to do like a little 20-song
little project, like, you know, baby album.
For sure.
20 might be a lot.
20 is a pretty long-ass album.
Do 12.
Gotta give me two years to just drop,
and I don't got to say shit.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Nah, facts.
All right, like, anybody want to shout out?
Anything else that people need to know out there?
Shout out
Shout out K-9
Free him
Shout out my n-Zion
Dead homies
Shout out
Good though
God
That's better than new
Yeah shit
Shout out my city
For real though
Because shit without your
Nicar
This shit wouldn't even be possible
For real for real
God in heaven
So
Yeah
And then
The shit they need to know
Is coming soon
It's been to go crazy
For sure
Yeah
And nigga I got that foot on
I got my foot on their necks right now, so I don't plan on stopping.
You feel me?
I plan on working my way up.
Let's get it.
Hell yeah.
I see the vision.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
Indian boy.
Shout out Indian boy, holding it down.
Shout out the whole Lancaster.
No, you know AV-661 in this.
Dangland.
Let's get it.
Don't come sliding through thinking you ain't going to get put in the headlock.
Hell yeah.
And I'm slam a nigga for you.
That's good.
For show.
Shout out, Indian boy.
Make sure you go check his shit out on YouTube and all that.
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