No Jumper - Interview with Karmen Karma AND HER HUSBAND !!!

Episode Date: August 12, 2019

We got Karmen Karma in the studio with HER HUSBAND to talk working in the industry, how it affects their marriage, and much more with Lena The Plug and Adam22! Enjoy. --- FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://spoti.fi/2vi9lsD CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper and iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 and follow us on Social Media: http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm follow Adam22 as well: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and follow adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No, John Burke. Coolest podcast in the world. And today, we're doing something that I've always wanted to do that I tweeted about a couple months ago. And Carmen, Carmen, is helping us make it happen. She's here with her husband. Yeah. And I'm here with my girlfriend, lady friend, Linaudda Plug. Hi.

His name is Alex, by the way. Alex. Alex. He has a name. So, Carmen, maybe you could introduce us to Alex a little bit, and we can start with drilling into you guys' relationship a little bit. That sounds fun, comfortable, right? Yeah. I'm drilling down for anything.

thing. Carmen loves drilling. I've gotten that idea. Oh, see, so much innuendo already. Sorry, I had to. The clap that I did to start this, that almost became an SDD clinic. I started licking the mic. How did you guys meet?

Let's do that. So, we met at a nightclub, right? Or I guess, like, at the guy's, his friend's house that I was actually going to see his, hang out with his friend, not him. You were there to fuck the other Alex. The other Alex. There was another Alex who was hanging out with. And I swear.

But then I walked out of the elevator at the apartment, and I just went right up to my husband now and was like, hi, I'm Carmen. What was it? What was it about him versus the other Alex? I was black. You read my mind. I don't know. He was just like, I just saw him right.

Yeah. Okay, maybe a little bit. African-American, yes, this is it. This is my big opportunity. But I like wasn't like super, I feel like you were the one more interested in me. He was falling around a nightclub all night. like you went to a night club and I mean I wasn't really thinking much of it and then I ended up actually going home with or going home in an Uber with his three friends or two friends I fought I fucked one of his friends and got fingered by the other two before I he came back to the hotel or you guys left me at the club and I went to the bathroom and I came out in the entire table and I was in the Uber getting gang banged pretty much this sounds to me like the kind of night that if I had that night or that

the club, I would be so bummed that I would go home and eat ice cream. Right. And then so that would be sad. I was determined. Yeah, he went to the... This was happening. I put the work in. Wow. Literally the leg work in. Okay, so how did you feel when she walked up to you? What was going through your head? And how long ago was this? Five or six years ago, maybe?

Five years. And so in your mind, she was like the most banging thing you had set eyes on in a long time? At the moment, she was a porn star that looked like she was into me. Okay. And I honestly that's all it takes. His girlfriends before me were like super preppy and like the opposite of me.

Oh, God. Really? So you'd been stuck with a bunch of frigid hose prior to this? Yes. Reliable. But, yeah, they did. Like super, super, super, super preppy girls. Really? Vanilla. Like, terribly preppy.

Is that because you're coming from this? I mean, you're a military guy, I understand it? Now, yes. Now, but I mean, my family was always, like, not conservative? Yeah, they are. He's adopted by, like, rich white people. Really? Yes. So, like, he's raised, so I'm, like, more of the black one in the relationship, like, attitude-wise, like, inside.

So he's always been, like, he went to private school and was, like, a super good boy. So I feel like the most, like, you corrupted him. Yes, but, yeah. So I was, like, super, like, really confused why he was dating me when I went and, like, stalked his social media and saw his, like, exes. So was, like, everybody else. Yeah. Everyone was like, where did she come from? Yeah.

How? Where? Why? So she was like this revelation for you That like oh maybe I don't want to live a squeaky clean Lifestyle that I've been doing I was maybe it was not so much squeaky clean It was just like I'd always considered myself like an old school

Like romantic kind of kind of guy like Whatever you want to define that as But I met her and she was just so The thing that I love about her is that she's so unapologetically herself Everything that she does is exactly who she's supposed to be And she doesn't really care what you think This is this is what you get this is who I am, deal with it kind of thing.

I like that. So I never met anyone before that was like that. So that was like, I was like, oh, I need to get to know this girl. Wow. Okay, so there wasn't any part of you that was bothered or in any way upset over the, the whole thing with her getting essentially gang banged by a bunch of your friends right before. I didn't know about that. No, no, no.

He came back to the apartment. This was revealed like years. I went outside to smoke. No, no, no. You knew I got, I was giving heads to them. No, I didn't. No. They didn't text you as it happened.

It was like, it was like after we got married and you're like, oh yeah, I remember the night we met? Like, I got gang bang by a bunch of your friends. I was like, huh? No, I saved them that I fucked that one weird guy. Oh, Adam? No, I didn't fuck. Well, I fuck Adam too, but the other guy. I can't remember his name anymore.

But he came. I literally went outside to smoke a cigarette and then you were just, you were walking up. And I was like, hi. And then we started having sex outside in the balcony. I was smoking a cigarette. You started having sex on the balcony with this random guy? With him, yeah. Oh, with him?

At the same part? Yeah. Oh, yeah, we had sex on top of a car. So we started making our way over to your car, right? And we stopped and we were having sex on top of a car. In the middle of the street. And then he was like, we were driving home. I remember I was sucking your dick in the driver or in the pastor seat.

And he was like, what's my name? And I was like, Daddy. He's like, no, what's my actual name? And I was just like, I have no idea. And you're like, your name is Alex. It's Alex. Continue. I mean, I feel like you would.

would have gone to Alex if you just guessed like the top five most common boy names. Where were you at in your life when this was going down? Like when you were showing up at this house, were you just full on party mode, just enjoying yourself, looking up with whoever you felt like. Yeah, this is like the point in my life where I was party girl,

like all I cared about was like doing Coke and having sex and not. And like in my head, because I was in the industry for a few years already, I just assumed no one's going to take me seriously. And I didn't want to date a male performer because I just don't think I can handle it. I don't know. I don't know if I would have lost you.

Not of the girls like they want to date any of the male performers. They're all like, right? They're all bitch boys, right? I mean, no offense to the ones that I fuck with and stuff. I'm sure there's a lot of cool ones, but a lot of them are some hoes, right? Yeah, yeah. I've never taken any of them seriously. So I just kind of, in my head was like,

maybe one day someone will want to marry me, but like maybe not. But, I mean, I just didn't think who would take a porn star seriously. But then, like, since our first, I thought it was going to be like a one-night stand. And then he would just, just kind of moved in. You just kind of moved in. You were obsessed with me. Didn't you think that I was still dating my ex?

Yeah. Because I've never been like big on social media or anything. Okay. So like my ex and I broke up maybe like four months before we met. And your profile picture was still kissing on. I was like on Twitter that I never used. Right. Okay.

That I never used. But you Google them and you found it and you were like, ah, in a relationship. Yeah, but then I still invited him over to have sex again at same night. It doesn't sound like you were going to like, well, wait. girlfriend stop you at that time. Wait, I'm going to put you out because you deleted this and I'll never feed you before it. The morning after, I left her apartment

and she tweeted, just had the best sex of my life, yada, yada, yada, yada, all this stuff. It was like a paragraph. And I screenshotted it. Because that was dope. You were hyped. And it was hype. It validated me. I sent it to Donnie. His friend.

Wait, but so you're out here taking all this professional high grade nuclear level dig that is like, you know, well paid in comparison to some jobs and but then you bang him and it was actually the best dick you ever took what was it? Yeah, I think it was just like the excitement of it all. Like we started, you were like choking me on a car and being like, who's your daddy? And I was like so scared. I remember telling him like the next day I was like, I thought you were going to murder me, but I was kind of into it. I was like, I'll take the risk. I'll take the risk right now. I don't know. There was just something about it. And then when we got home, I had no idea. So he had vanilla girlfriends before me, you know.

So we get to my house and I'm like, grab the coconut oil. And he has no idea. I'm like shove it in my ass. He's never had anal before. You had never done anal before? Never. Wow. So he was just mind-blum. You're making me feel like my life has been so vanilla up until this point.

Like, hey, we got to go home and you got to almost kill me, please, okay? I've got bad about banging you on the couch for all these months. Let's not talk about it. Wow. Okay. So where does it go from there? Did you get home and immediately search your name on Pornhub? Oh, yeah.

For sure. That was how. The afternoon was spent. Kind of like a trophy hunting of sorts. And it didn't make you like her loss. It made you still as interest in her. I never cared. I thought about this because I knew I was going to get asked.

I never cared. Really? Not one part of me was like, kind of a red flag or are you okay with this? I was just like, this is what she does. It's never like. It never bothered me. And still does.

It's so weird. Yeah, when I think about it because like all my girlfriends are like, what? You know, like, does he have a brother? Like, because it's so hard to find him. a normal guy that's okay with you I'll be like giving him kiss he's like hey how funny your content you banging this other guy you know like and it's just like

it's so nonchalant yeah so they can't find guys to date that are gonna also let them have their career sorry right and he's never even I don't just do this I don't know what the hell is going on on that mic yeah like I'm friends a lot of girls in the industry and they're just like you're so lucky you have a boyfriend and that it doesn't

care about what you do obviously I don't fuck other guys but you know if I did I wouldn't have a boyfriend right now. Oh, I don't know about that. Oh, come on, babe. I'm a very open-minded guy. You're not that open-minded. Just like Alex here. I'm just like Alex. What are you talking about? Okay, but so how did it slowly like get more serious or was it just serious since day one right there? Um, I think it was we're more so just kind of like partying together all the time, right? Yeah, it was like, because I was I was a promoter at the time. Oh, which she was not happy about that. I know. Best guys are usually close. promoters.

The best ones, always. No, so I remember I asked you the morning after I was like, so what do you do? And you're like, I was working last night. I'm like, oh. You work at the club? Okay, cool. By being like, who am I to judge, right?

Right. But I just like assume promoters are like, not guys that one. Yeah, not guys that one and date. Gross promoters, says the porn stuff. But. Club promoters are at home. God damn it.

Like, I thought this was a cool job. I did too. But it was never, it was, there was never like a we never had like the talk or like are we doing this seriously well i think i think we were like just kind of fell in love over and then like once i started wanting to get sober that's when things got like serious because we got engaged i think so we got engaged in maybe like four months after i got sober that's when you asked me to marry you yeah so i know you he loved me like when i was like super co-core and crazy and but i was like

extreme, like, crazy. Yeah, like, how bad was it? Like, after your drug addiction. I woke up at 8 o'clock in the morning. She read the book. I read the book. Can we talk about the book? Where's the book?

I didn't bring a copy of it. Oh, I thought that that was going to be sort of like... I have it at home, but yeah, I feel like I don't know if I should... Do you care if we talk about what's in the book? No, not at all. People don't want to give it away. But I don't know about all of it, yeah. But yeah, Carmen was on a drug bender for, I don't know how many years.

Yeah, but like bad. Like that morning, what were you going to say about? Yeah, I woke up at 8 o'clock in the morning to go to work, and she was bleaching the walls. I was like on a chair bleaching the walls. I'm like, there's stains. And like rubbing. It's so dirty. But like she's really just rubbing the paint off the wall.

And that's basically just some weird ass drug shit that you might do enough drugs that you might start scrubbing the walls. Yeah, I mean, I was just, I would text everyone in my phone. Like when he would go to sleep and I would just be like, no, no way. And I would just stay up. Remember I had like post pictures on Twitter. me like shoving vodka bottles. Yeah, like vodka stuff. Like I would be up and there's like random people in the house.

Yeah. I remember you saying it looked like a, like a jail because I would just like invite the worst dudes over. The worst dude. I was like, what is going on? But you stayed. That's why I don't know why he stayed with me. You must have seen past the party like the Carmen persona because I don't really know

anything about that. That would be wiping material. No, nothing about that was. No. I hated that part of it. In sickness and in health. I was, yeah. I mean.

So you hated the drug addict part and the crackboard? I hated the drug addict part because I saw who she was without all of it. So it was, it was like she was regular Amber up until maybe like seven, eight o'clock. And then the second that first line got, she flipped the switch and turns into this coke snorting demon. Would you just call me Cookie the clown? Cookie the clown. Were you the reason why she stopped or what were your other? thoughts on her stop and did you not have it in you to just be like baby you need to

you need to slow down well I knew that if I did that then she wouldn't do it because she was like a toddler when it comes to that and she if you tell her to not do something she'll do it just to prove you wrong right so I think my whole my whole point behind how I handled it was to to love her unconditionally and to kind of show her that she's worth something and to show her that she can be loved and I think that I think that's what she was searching for Yeah, because I try to get sober. Like, I knew I was a mess for a long time.

You almost died. Yeah, a couple times. How did you almost die? Tell me about that. Well, once I just, after like a really long bender, not eating for days and just doing drugs, I had two back-to-back seizures. Oh, boy. And then after that, I think literally two weeks later, I overdosed.

Well, I was like on all these pills and drugs and booze. And then I just was like, fuck it. I want to die. And I went to Walgreens and just ate a bunch of sleeping pills out there. And then I was like foaming in the mouth. and they took me at the emergency room. And then I woke up and I was on the 50-150. Is that what they call it here?

Yeah. What's that? Where I was like held and omitted. Okay. And so yeah, just that, like I was pretty much like near death. They had to like roll me in. And I don't really remember any of that. I remember being at the strip because I was working at the strip club that night.

And I was like, fuck it. I'm just going to leave and I'm going to kill myself. And yeah. But I had a lot of health scares and stuff like that. So it was like not like just partying like fun stuff. Like for years I knew like I need to stop, but I just couldn't. And I think I started feeling bad because I remember when we'd wake up in the morning, I would like feel me waking up and I'd just be so guilty.

I didn't even want to open my eyes because I knew he would always be like last, you would always be nice about it. You'd be like last night, remember you made up, is that guy in front of me? You left me all. Yeah, I chased you around. Yeah, I chased your around the club and my boss yelled at me. No, your boss yelled at me for eating your best friend out in the middle of the dance floor. Wait, wait, wait, wait, that just.

went down and just eating busying on the dance floor? Yeah, before it was like, before it was open really though, it was like the beginning of the night. And I had my friend on the floor. We just opened doors. So it's not like three in the morning. No, it's like maybe like

9.30, like the door's just open. There's no one in the club. Like the DJ is not even like playing his actual set. The Carmen I know will still do this right now. Oh, she will. Oh, totally. Yeah. When you say it wasn't open, so at first you guys were aspiring to be committed to each other and then that didn't work out or what was that like?

Well, we always just like, I consider work not cheating. That's just how it was. Like, we only had sex with each other up until recently. Like, our whole relationship, like, we never had threesomes or anything like that. It was just I only had sex with him in my private life up until like a year ago. And then. And then. what happened.

And then we started talking. Well, when I was retired, so I quit to have, like, get married, well, we got married, and then I quit like a year after that. Like, when we got married, we never had a talk, like, okay, you got to stop performing or you got, like, I was even escorting at the time. And he never said, like, you got to stop that. It was just, he was just marrying me how I am. So you just didn't give a shit or you just knew that you couldn't really say anything

because she wouldn't respond well to it. About her performing? Or about the escorting or about any of that stuff that we kind of, I think that's, like, the part that the random dudes who are watching this right now are the most interested in it is because I just get those comments constantly. Even about her who doesn't actually fuck anyone else. People hit me up nonstop.

How do you feel about your girl coming home with sweaty black cock on a breath? So I could just imagine what like, you know, just what people are thinking about out there, you know? I mean, so if for all the other, all the other guys out there,

if you don't think that your girl would love to get with a dude who's literally his job is to have great sex on camera, then you're lying to yourself. Really? I think that if, when she goes and performs the other male talent, I'm like, I'm like, great, she's having a great time.

Like, I don't have to do it. Like, exactly. I was like, I was talking to Rob Day. I was like, I was like, thank God. I was like, she says you were literally the best pussy eater out there. You said that to him? Yeah. You know, Rob Piper?

And I was like, oh my God, how could she say that? I was like, I was like, thank you. When she comes up, she's a different person. Right. Like, I never, I never, I never cared. Right. I never cared. It's not, I don't, I don't feel like I own her.

I don't think I, like, I'm in possession of this person. I don't know. You just, you never have been jealous like when you watch my trailers and stuff? No. Really? No, I critique your trailer. Asshole. Wow, really?

So what kind of stuff stands out to you? Like, oh, why? Just like, like, body positioning. Or I'll recognize that. I'll recognize, like, a position that she came home after the scene. It was like, oh, I hated that. I was like, yeah, I could tell you hated that. Well, one time when I, remember you said that you were pissed at me one time?

When you watched, like, anal scenes, you know I hated. To, like, get back in me, so he's, like, jerking off the scenes, you know, as I didn't enjoy it. Whoa, how'd you know she hated him? You could just tell. I tell him. I tell him everything. Like, so I come home, I'm like, that was great.

That was fucking awesome sex. It's like that meme that you see. It's like when your girls are porn starts, she comes home, and she had a great day at work. Right, yeah. And that guy's face is like, yeah. Yeah, but except I don't, I don't care. I remember, like, my first interracial DP,

he showed up two set with, like, a dozen of donuts to congratulate me. Wow. Yeah. And, like, daffing up the dudes and saying, hey, like, he's been on set with me while I've recorded content. Remember that? Yeah, so, I don't know. You're just, like, the one in a million guys I feel I could handle that.

Yeah. Would you describe it as a cuck-type relationship? where you're actually turned on by seeing her get dig down by other guys. No. I don't, it's not that. No, definitely not because he won't have a,

he won't have a threesome, like, with two guys with me. Really? Why not? I don't know. Can't find the right guy? I'm just not there yet.

Am I, am I like not, am I saying that it's never going to happen? No, but I'm just not there. You can watch it, but you can't be involved. I can watch it,

but I can't be involved. Exactly. I like that you're on, like, the spiritual journey of discovering yourself through this process. Mm-hmm. I mean, I feel like I'm more in touch with, like, who I am. Mm-hmm.

And I think that it's, like, not to say that I'm some, like, crazy freak or whatever, because I'm definitely not. But, like, I don't think, I think it's, I think our relationship is definitely out of the norm. Yeah. I mean, even for porn, it's out of the norm that you're so okay with everything and you're not a cuck. Because that's what people always say in my stuff, like, oh, your husband must be a cuckold. And, yeah, but, like, he's not. I'm not in, like, the closet, like, watching. I'm not like, I don't know.

I just don't think that's not my thing. My thing, if anything, is I appreciate watching her do something that she's good at and that she gets paid well for. Right. And I think that, I mean, everyone wants to enjoy what they get paid to do. Definitely. And so I'm envious. Like, my job at times is awful.

Really? Sometimes I'm like, I have to get fucked in the ass all the time. He's like, I get fucked in the ass at work all the time. I don't make money like you. But, I mean, like when he was. deployed, because this is before I came back to porn, he left for seven months, like, right, when our daughter was first born. No dick for seven months?

Right. So I was, like, dying. And so he hit up my favorite male performer at that time when he was on a boat on Twitter. I was like, hey, can you go dick down my girl? So literally one day, without warning, I just, I get a knock on the door and it's Prince Yahshua just standing there. And I'm like, what the fuck? Your husband sent me.

That's what he said. And my husband bought me a hotel. room to go of sex with him while he's deployed. Like, you're different. You were a very special man. Because I was like, look, because you hear about, especially in the military, you hear about all this, like, Jody back home. What's Jody?

It's like the guy that fucks your girl while you're gone in deployment. Just sort of a general name for this guy. Just the general name is Jody. So I was like, why not just like, because I know you. What is that mean? You can't go that now I'm going to drought without freaking out. Getting mad. Without getting mad?

So I was like, I'm already gone. You're getting mad at me for being gone. I was like, let's just. So is it because you think I'm going to cheat on you anyway? So you just. No, I didn't want you to be tempted to. So I was like, if it's going to happen, I want to be in control of it happening.

I don't know if I could be like, see, I don't know if I could feel the same way. I was telling you when he was under play. I'm like, go find girls. You couldn't send a girl over to fuck him. That would bother you, even though it doesn't seem to bother him. No, I don't think it'd bother me anymore because, like, we do scenes like with my friends and stuff.

And I love seeing, because I'm like such a lesbian that like I'd be more mad like I want to join. Like I want to eat pussy. But like now I don't think I think I'm so secure in our relationship and we trust each other and just that doesn't bother me anymore. Like I don't feel the jealousy or anything like that. That's a beautiful thing because I'm going to be honest with you, you know, I being an average guy, you know, there are things when you're dating a girl that you know about that she did before you even met her that can kind of like work its way into your brain. Right. trying to think about it. Lennah,

I'm not going to say anything in particular. But, you know, there's like a few... I had no past before I met Adam, or at least I have to act like I did it. Yes, and I appreciate that. I was a version before you.

Clearly, I only had a girlfriend for four years. That's all I did. No, I love that, actually, because I'm not threatened by that at all. That's great. I know. I think that's hot.

I would have loved if you had been in a girl-on-girl relationship for your entire life prior to me. I had two boyfriends before you one month each in high school. I know. You're so innocent. And it bothers him.

I could say he was angry He was holding it back right now He's so mad I'm not mad Wait I just want to say But I read in your book that you stabbed a guy once For liking someone else's Facebook status So how is it that you're okay watching your husband

Fuck other girls now? I just met him too Yeah he went to my 10 year reunion And my high school boyfriend was there And literally okay So first of all let me tell say the backstory So I was a fucking crazy person in high school That's when I like really had my issues and I was so jealous and you were getting down real hardcore in high school, I'm assuming.

Oh my God, yeah. Tiana Taylor told her she fucked the whole basketball team. The entire football team. Trump, Trump, it was football. It was football. Oh, it was football. Yeah. But my high school boyfriend, like, but my high school boyfriend, like I was just like, I was just mentally unstable at that time.

And I was like, and it was like a post about like school something. It was like it wasn't like for like your school like singing competition or talent conference? Yeah, and he liked this tweet. He liked this like Facebook status, yeah. Oh, okay. And I went to, like, I went to scare him with this, like, I was carving an apple. And I went to, like, scare him. And he went out to grab it, and I stabbed him right through here.

So literally, when I see him at my 10-year reunion, the first thing I could think of to say, remember? I was like, remember when I stabbed you? She goes, hey, hey, remember when I stabbed you? Do you still have the scar? What he said? This is after she ran to the bathroom after seeing him and gave herself a pep talk. I was nervous. for like five minutes and then comes out.

She's like, okay. And her opener was, hey, remember when I stabbed you. And what did he say? He's like, yeah. He was not interested in talking at all. Wow, he didn't think it was funny. He's probably in therapy over that. Yeah.

How many girls do you think he was able to have like healthy relationships with after you? No, yeah. No, no, I know. And we talked later that night too. And I was, and I said, remember, I was like, I feel really bad about everything. He's like, yeah, we are young, but I'm not going to lie. You really did your damage. I'm like, fuck.

Wow. Yeah. So high school, your high school years, Would there have been, were you thinking about becoming an adult star when you're in high school? Oh yeah. Yeah, really. Yeah, like, I remember finding porn when I was in, I want to say, like, sixth grade and seeing a magazine. And I knew, like, instantly I wanted to do that.

But I started webcaming in high school when I was still 17. Oh, boy. Because I would go on, like, remember, like, Cam 4? It's like a free campsite and you can just go on it. So I would tell all the guys, like, hit me up on MSN, but I would tell them I'm 18. And then they pay me through PayPal and then I do, like, little shows in my room. and I picked up the name Carmen back in senior year. And so I was webcaming for a while,

but the whole reason I didn't do porn, I remember talking to Spiegler when I was eight, I was blonde in 18 with no tattoos, and I was talking to Spiegler, and he wanted me, and then I was too nervous because my dad is so, like, I had so, like, religious, like, conservative. You don't need a dab and you go Spiegler. Yeah, right?

But I was trying to be a good, like I was trying to contain my hooness for a long time. And I kind of wish I would have just done it then. But I waited like three years. I went stripping first. And I was like, maybe that will just satisfy me. But then I kept wanting to do more and more. So finally I was like, well, fuck it.

Hopefully he still loves me, but I'm going to do what I want to do. Does he still love you? Yeah. The fact that he walked in on you camming kills me. What age? You were like real young doing this? I think I was finally 18 when this happened. But I was like my, I died reading that part of the book.

Oh, my God. So I'm like web camming, like face down, ass up with the dildo. Like, just getting my thing on. And someone had, sorry, pop. Someone had traced my IP address, like, founded on the internet to my home phone number, call my home phone number and whispered to my dad. I'm watching your daughter fuck herself. So my dad, we live in like a really old house, just like bust open the door and there I am.

And he was like, get dressed and come to my room. And then I was just like mortified. I was like, I need to get out of here. What do you know as a dad in that situation? My dad found my Instagram three years ago, and I couldn't look him in the face for like a year. That was just booty pictures. That was before you started doing anything. Exactly.

I remember in 10th grade, a guy in my school sent my dad one of my nudes, and he literally just opened his phone and had a nude of his, however old I was, then, 15, 16. Kids could be so cruel. Why would you send that to your dad? What the fuck? Well, my dad knew, I remember he knew the first time I was sexual when I was seven, and I had sex with three girls. Like we had like a sleepover and we all like,

you're like scissoring each other. And then one of them felt bad and told their mom on me and was like, she forced us all. I did not force we were all doing it okay. But then I remember my dad saying down, he's like, you will go to jail if you ever do that again. So I mean, I don't think he would. Everything's about going to jail under that age.

Your parents always tell you you're going to go to fucking jail. So I don't think he was surprised because literally since I was in first or something that was second grade, Since second grade, I literally was getting in trouble for being sexual. Really? Even in school and stuff? Just jerk somebody off on the slide. Well, it was like really into girls at that time.

But I remember I got put on the wall at recess because me and this girl, we were showing each other vaginas in like the corner of like the school building like outside by the wall. And they were like, get on the wall. And we got in trouble. But it was always getting in trouble with girls. I'm going to be honest with you in my entire time doing this podcast. I don't think anybody has ever mentioned the idea of an orgy by a bunch of seven-year-old girls. We were watching Titanic. You're really pushing at the edges here.

No, but like you guys never had female, all-female sleepovers as kids. I feel like there's always a degree of something. Like, my mom would come into my room when I was like eight, and I'd sleepover to my best friend, and she would always wonder if we were touching each other because we're giggling. Girls just do that? I mean. I did.

Because dude's sleepovers is not. No, I never thought about jerking off the homie. Not ever. I never touched a girl, but I'm just saying, like, it gets really intimate when you're that young and you're having a sleepover with a bunch of girls. you guys what do you guys want to talk about you want to talk about sex obviously yeah and like every like truth or dare you to kiss her yeah i dare you to touch her you know what i remember a lot of when i was a young man and we'd have sleepovers a lot of farting a lot of it was like yeah i'm not

surprised considering you every day and the house still a big part of my life holy shit so okay the the stripping didn't satiate whatever you were looking for in life but then getting into the porn world that what did it make you? you feel that you were lacking beforehand? I loved it. It was just, I think I thought about it for so long, too, and it was something I just knew I wanted to do. And then when I did it, and I felt like that kind,

I love performing, like, I love people watching. So that's why I did, like, stripping, too. I liked performing, but I had no, like, morals against having sex with people. So I was, like, super excited to do that. And I just loved the feeling. And I loved, like, knowing it was going to be on the internet for everyone to watch. And I just, I felt like it was, like, the perfect job for me. I don't know. It just made me very high. It was almost like a high.

Like when you get done performing and then you just know you like killed that scene, like a face of cum, you're like, I rock that shit. And a chick. Huh? And a check. Yeah. He's like, babe, you are getting paid. You're just doing this for fun. No, it's just like, but that was the thing that I really wanted to explore my sexuality. And like in real life you can't, it's really hard to get like eight guys and be like, hey guys, can we do a blowbang here or like it's hard to.

Really? My staff, I think we're going to be down. You guys ready? I mean, I don't know. Tony got a girlfriend. Michael in front, I think, would definitely get down. Security guard, I think we'd get down. There's two.

Turn off the canvas. Maybe not your employees, babe. Yolo, I'll throw myself in. Sure, why not? Do you think there's a lot of girls who are just sort of sitting around and just wondering why it's so hard to organize a blowbang in their personal life?

And that's why they get into porn? I mean, I feel like these girls are really sexual. Like, the good performers, I feel like are sexual in their personal life. And that was one thing. Like, I really wanted to have a DP. I wanted to do group sex. And it's hard. Even when I was, like, a slutty-ass stripper,

I still wasn't in positions of, like, more than a threesome. And I really wanted to experiment. And it was perfect because I was getting paid to do it at the same time. And it's all organized. And you get all these, like, hot people who are tested. And it's all put together for you. Right. I'm so terrified at the idea of a DP.

I cannot believe. Oh, girl. That is the best feeling. It's always like, it's better than anal. It is. Like it sounds terrifying. No like the two at the same time. It's just like, you know plus one and you love it because you don't have to do anything Yeah, you just sit there and they just like pound you and you're like yes I mean that's the whole thing just being a girl having sex in general you don't have to do anything

What do you like that in real life in real life like he does all the word I'm like just laying that Everyone's like what's it like to have you a porn star and you get that you had to fuck a porn star every day but do you guys have boring ass The most boring we didn't use to the most boring. The most boring. The most boring. sex ever once every three weeks. Alex. Is it really that dry? Sometimes. Think about it like this.

Think about like this. For example, I do IT stuff. So when I come home, the last thing I want to fucking do is fix the router. Yeah. So when she comes home, it does get like the last thing she wants to do, it's like, hey, babe, how to blow job? Nah, not today. Wow. See, that's what it's like to be her.

She gets home and I don't want to talk. It's like, babe, I've been talking on camera for eight hours. Yeah, I get that. I get that for sure. I always just tell him, like, well, one day I'm going to retire, and then you get all this pussy. You said that yesterday. Yeah, but remember, like, when we first started dating,

we were having, like, crazy ass sex. Like, I would have him hold, like, a knife to my throat. Yeah, we got complaint. You were, your landlord thought that you were being assaulted. But I was just, no, that's when we were playing rape. Oh, yeah. A girl was being assaulted. She was just, yeah, but she was in on it.

It was consensual assault. Right. So, wait, what were you saying? Nothing. I was just going to get mad at you for giving me the death stare earlier. You're like, yeah, when you're a girl, you don't have to do any work and just look at me. I'm like, have I been not having good sex? Do you want to tell me something?

Apparently I haven't. I'm just saying that if I'm going to fuck for a half hour, it's like basically like me doing like a workout routine. We never fuck for half an hour. Well, that's why. Because I'm too tired. It's a long day at work. Don't actually get that much work. We bankrupt.

In porn scenes, though. I'm about to start a timer. There you go. Do you want to do that though? 301. It's going to be like a YouTube video. It's 10. And I'm going to start timers on my BJs because I go down for a long ass time.

That's easy. That doesn't take any work on my part. What? We can't breathe. Yeah. Straight up. No. But like in porn scenes, all it's, I feel like it's all the girls work in porn.

Like, because the guys just kind of sit back. Like, we have to ride this way. I get way more exhausted in porn scene. I feel like the good male talent puts in work. But they're not doing teases. You know, girls do so much. They're doing the lead up. They're so exhausting.

And the face. Like guys don't really have to care about what facials they're making. They make sure they look cute at every angle, but spit all over their face. I mean, I don't do it, but I see it. They don't show the dude's face. That's one thing I like about pointing these days is that they don't do the shot that's just all male butt hole and balls. It used to be like that when I was a kid. It was like the worst angles. They try to avoid that now.

They'll be like, oh, asshole, like, move your position. Like, they want to avoid that, like, which is good. The ball slapping butthole angle. Yeah. I guess because she's constantly trying to coerce me into doing adult films. And I guess that's one thing I could say about it. take that much coercion. Okay, but I mean, like, the real deal is that you almost never see the guy's face. I mean, granted, I'm not anonymous at all because of the tattoos and stuff.

It's very clear it's me, but like you don't really see the guy's face. Yeah. I do have a flabby ass, though. I love your ass. Really? Aww. He never let me eat it. Okay. Let's not for this podcast. I start squirming around. It feels weird. I have some questions here. Hold on the way. Let me review. But before you even get into those, I do want to ask this, what made you want to write a book? I just feel like when it's almost like I don't even believe that I used to live the life I used to live so like even talking about it with him like thinking about it I'm like it's like a whole other life and I just feel like well being so open on social media for years like I was really big on tumbler

remember like Tumblr day and all the girls that still follow me from them and it's a lot of like females just be like oh you really help me get sober just from like watching me get sober or like certain things like you help me like not care anymore and be myself and I felt like okay well if I'm already like helping people when I'm just posting my story on social media if I write a book one it was like super therapeutic and it was it was like even I was just listened to my um audio book on the way here I was like trying to listen and I would keep forgetting it's me because I just can't believe that it was because now I'm so like I still shoot content and stuff but I'm so like mommy like the majority of my life is like mom and way doing that so I forget like oh my

God, like, my whole life used to be cocaine, and, like, I just literally saw no future for myself. Like, in the book, I'm just like, I'm writing it. I'm like, I'm so glad I didn't die, like, when I tried to kill myself because I would have never seen any of this stuff happen. I just really never thought there would be anything good that would come out of anything. If it wasn't for him, would you be dead or still dig into drugs right now? Honestly, I think I'd still be doing coke because after I met you, that's when I, like, started taking things seriously.

And then when I wanted, I told him I wanted to stop doing drugs. And it was really hard. But I did it without like a program or without rehab or anything. We just started going to the gym. And he started teaching me how to lift weights. And we would do that. And he, um, you quit your club job just because he got sober with me, even though he didn't have an addiction.

And like everything was just like, he could do it like the normal partier. Like, but I was like out of control where it was like ruining my whole life. and he just got sober with me and it was really easy to have someone and he was such a supportive partner that it was really easy I don't know, it was just like the first time I actually, well the first like guy that ever treated me

right first of all and it just made me finally see like okay maybe I could have a future because before I just didn't give a shit I'm just like I was basically like didn't think that anyone would want to be with me and I was just like yeah I get it. Sounds like you were living like you hated

yourself at a certain point. Yeah Yeah, I definitely didn't see my life ever. I never thought I could get sober, first of all, because it would be so frustrating to myself, like, three days, and I'm, like, feigning. And it was just, I just never thought it happened. And then now being, like, a mom and everything, and that's, like, my sole purpose.

It's just, it's just a different life. Yeah, how much does that change your life? A lot. Yeah. I love her so much, yeah. A lot of people, too, that's, like, one thing they're going to have a hard time wrapping their head around. They're going to be like, how are you doing this,

and you've got a kid and stuff? Was there any kind of conflict in your mind about that? Yeah, I actually wasn't going to come back to poor. Remember that? I was like, when I quit, I had my baby and I had no, like, plans to return. My husband was the one that was telling me, just do it. Because, like, he said that he felt like a part of me was missing, right? That's what I'm saying.

Because I was trying to be a good girl so bad, and I was trying, like, I already lived the whole life, blah, blah, blah. But it just... And she just looked like she was going to explode. Really? The whole time... It was like Betty Homemaker, and then you'd see, like, Betty Homemaker. and then you'd see like Betty Homemaker wants to murder.

Because you got rid of your high of doing drugs, but then you also got rid of the high of just the sex life. So it's like you cut off all of the parts of your identity or things that were part of your identity for so long, right? Yeah, but I mean, I struggled of, like I wanted to come back, but it was more so like, well, what are people going to think that I'm a mom? And like, what will my baby think one day? And then I was kind of like, well,

but the only thing I care about is her getting teased one day, but the way we talked about is they're already going to tease her because they're going to say she was a porn star. You know, by the time she's old enough to realize what that is, I won't be doing it anymore. So it's still going to be in the past. But whether I keep doing it or I did it then, like they're still going to say you're one with Kermit Kermak.

I really don't think in 2038 that your mom having been a porn star is going to be that big of a deal anymore. Right. I'm hoping. I hope how many girls we know now to have private snaps or at least that post news or they post photos with her ass. Imagine what that's going to be like in like 18 years when your daughter is legal and an adult and stuff. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping is that everything's more normalized and the stigma's not all there.

But that's the only thing I really worry about is her getting teased. Like I know we're going to raise her to be not ashamed of it. Like we want to be like sex. Not obviously we don't want to be like go be a thought, but like I want her to be able to be open with me and I'm going to be like super transparent to her and tell her my past and everything. I'm not going to hide it in any way. I'm going to be the one to tell her what I did before. Now I'm thinking about the fact that her high school classmates are watching this in the future. That's crazy.

I'm not ashamed, motherfucker. Let me tell you, 2019, pretty good year. Don't hate on 2019. What if she wakes up one day and she's like, Mom, I want to be a stripper. What are you going to say? I would be supportive because, like, I obviously wouldn't want her to do that because I know all, like, the bad stuff that comes along with it. But I definitely wouldn't make her feel ashamed, like my family made me feel like. I felt like I still can't talk to my dad about what I do for a living because I know the judgment there.

So I think I would just love her and give her like that trust like she can tell me. So that way I can at least try to keep her safe. Yeah, I was thinking about that. I was like, because you're like proud of it and you're really positive. And I'm not ashamed of what I do either. But it's kind of a weird thing when I think about like what I, if my daughter wanted to do it. I guess I would be concerned about her safety, but it's so hypocritical to be like, oh. You can't do this, but I did it.

Well, I was like, yeah. Yeah, well, that's why I'm like saving so much money for her college, because I'm hoping, like, I'm going to be giving her like, here you go. You can go straight to college. And I'm like a super pro. You did? Yeah, I graduated. I almost went to graduate school.

I have a degree. So it's like. The hoe was burning inside. I mean, I want to even say, like, I feel like we both have very different views about it. Like, you do, you do the sex thing and the porn thing because it's like your best versions of yourself are coming out. and you really love it. I'm still more shy and like timid and you've seen me.

We worked at the time. Yeah, I'm, I am doing it for money. Yeah, but I mean, whatever. A lot of so many girls are doing it for money,

but I don't like hate it when I'm doing it. Like I do enjoy it, but it's not, I'm not burning to do it, you know? I'm not like booking myself out like crazy because I fucking have to do it. But see, like I've always,

from the second I knew it was, I've just wanted to be so sexual. I wanted to do porn. Like the money was always like secondary. to me. Like, I always was just like, I just want to do porn, which is really weird because most girls do say they do it because... As a last resort. Not even a last resort, but like, they want to get the money for it and they aren't really into it, but I was like wanting to find these sexual experiences. And I like the attention. Man, because let me tell you, like, if you

are trying to indulge your sexual experience or desires or whatever, I kind of feel you on the whole porn thing because the, like, while we were in London, me and Lennon tried to like meet up with some random girls that we've been on Instagram and like hang out with them and like go off for some groupie bitches who tried to use us okay we were we thought that it was just like understood like you're hanging out with us we're going to go out and get some drinks and then we're going to hook up and these girls were like trying to buy coke at four in the morning and I'm like man I did not yeah trying to get us to buy tables at the club because I've been with her like basically the entire time that I had money quote unquote so I'm people are always like oh do you ever feel like

girls are using you to like blah blah I'm like no I've never felt like that at all because I I ain't giving a bitch a fucking dollar. Right. These chicks were fucking really thinking that we were going to buy like $1,000, $2,000 tables and bottles of the strip club. You and I barely drink. If we bought a $2,000 table with a bottle, like we would get like an ounce of it and then be like done. So I'm like, I'm not buying these girls bottles. We actually did get pretty drunk that net.

But that made us like, oh, like why the fuck. This is why we fuck porn girls? Yeah. Why are we trying to indulge our fucking desires to get freaky with these random assholes? Like if you go to the stripper world, the score world, the porn star world, I feel like you you're way better able to like find people that get it. I agree because remember we were looking for a threesome on Tinder for so long and it's just, it's not going to happen.

So we just set up, yeah, we just set up content shoots and be like, you want to shoot content with my man? Yeah. Boom, threesome. It's like you don't have to like wine and dine them. You don't have to like wonder if it's going to happen. Like it's just planned sex. The question, like this fucking girl, oh my God, in Chicago waited in line at this meet and greet

with her friends and then her friend left her. Her. I'm dragging her. No offense. You're a cute girl. But your friends are not looking out for you because they talk block the fuck out of you. But this girl waits in line at this meet and greet. I don't know if we could put on the friends.

I feel like it might be her fault. The friends might have been a decoy. Let me finish the story. But anyway, she waits in line and she's like, I just want to have a threesome with you guys. I feel like it would be a great first threesome. So I get her information, which like she's lucky I was on board because a lot of times girls come up to us. And I don't think they're cute. And I don't think they're cute.

And if you're standing in line for a meet and greet, I'm not going to lie. that sort of makes us less likely to do it because the fan thing can get kind of weird with like the power dynamic and everything. Yeah. I looked at her Instagram. I'm like, okay, she's in college. She wants to experiment, whatever. So we're like DMing and texting all weekend. And I go and buy liquor.

I shave my fucking labia. And she's like, because she's like acting like she's going to come over. And then she's like, okay, actually, I'm really sorry. But my friends told me that they won't let me back into the dorm if I leave. So I can't. I class at nine tomorrow. And I'm like, your friends are clock blocking you. They're not good friends.

We like pregame fucked for this. We like did a quick bang just so that I would be like fully in the zone. I love the pregame, you know? If we broke up and I was like going on the first date, I am pregame it because I don't trust myself down there if I'm not fucking drive out already, you know? It's tough. I got to get out. I mean, I have to do the same thing. When I think about the threesomes we're going to have, I'm like, oh my God, I got to get one out one out.

Do you really? Yeah. I get so turned on by the prospect of having the three-sum. that I'm like But you don't have that finite resource inside of your body that is important for the content The content doesn't really go anywhere

I'm too excited I can't go about my day I have to fucking orgasm babe But so is that your dick on Twitter sometimes You gonna go look at it? Wait we can't say that because the Navy Right So it's it's no No it's a dildo

It's a dildo It's just it's Rod Piper Rob there you go Robbred Do you imagine if I tweeted so and so is the best pussy eater in the world and it wasn't you this is what she did I'm sorry

this is absolutely insane to me is the best way I wonder how many other people thought that I didn't even think about that sorry babe but I mean was I lying I'm assuming the Navy's not down with Kush no no no no no no Cush for the Navy hey cash money is an army better yet in Navy

when I think about the word Navy I just have to say that I'm sorry okay but yeah so that doesn't bother you she said that some other guy is the best pussy in the world. I guess at some point that seems like a fair thing to just admit. It would be like if I was really into playing basketball and you would still have to be like, well, Kobe though.

You know how many, not lies, but every day on Cam, people try to ask me questions like, what's the biggest dick you've ever seen? Who's the hottest guy? And every time she's like, Adam 22. You've had bigger dicks than me. Damn. I don't even know.

I don't remember the fucking dicks I had in my life. I had zero, obviously, before you. Clearly I was a virgin. But, you know, if someone's like, who's the hottest, who's your celebrity crush on, like, Adam 22? Like, I just fucking always say it's you. You're such a good girl. My whole life I've been having girls telling me that I have a big dick or whatever, but then, like, I dated this one girl for a couple months. And, like, she at one point, like, just kind of, like, referred to me as if I had a really small dick.

And I'm like, wait a minute. And she's, and then she just told me, like, your whole world. She's like, do other girls think is big? I'm like, I would say, yeah. And she's like, oh, because, like, the other guys, I've only been with two other guys besides you. you, but yeah, they were way bigger. I was like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to be honest,

if they were way bigger than mine, you've got some fucking taste because you've got some massive cocks. I feel like mine's like solid. If they were both way bigger, I'm like, man, you hit it out of the park, you know how to pick them. You got a solid cock. Thank you. I fucked at him with Lenin before.

Okay, elephant in the room. Let's talk about it. So we've had sex before, guys. Yeah, how was that? That was a lot of fun. I love when you like when I get like a big booty girl Like when there's dick and pussy That's like the best combination for me

I always say she's my favorite girl to work with Work with just fuck Because it's like your energy and you're just like It's so obvious somebody like girls Yeah That was a situation in which I should have pre-gamed I mean you didn't really have that much time You were loving it but yeah

We were in a rush But also it's a good feeling when guys were like Yeah this pussy good huh Oh yeah that's true I remember that That was fun He would be like no don't remember that next time I'm about the book in like 35 seconds.

Just think your pussy 18. 18. 18. Look, look at the time. 18. So like, but you were actually waiting in the car

when we all had that threesome, right? Was that, what do you think about? What's going on in your head? Are you just chilling, listening to a podcast, no big deal? I was like, where am I going to eat? It's so normal to me. Yeah, I get in the car.

He's like, how was it? I truly don't give a shit. It sounds funny, like me thinking that. And I was like, man, am I going to have time to get a sandwich? Yeah, I guess it's so normal now. But even in the beginning, you never were weird about it. It's never, I don't know.

Part of me, like, doesn't believe you're just not jealous at all. She wants me to be jealous. I see it in her face. She's like, she wants me to me to me. It's just so weird. It's like never even... Hold on, I'm going to give you some vindication. I was only jealous once.

And it was for your showcase when Ramon made you squirt. Oh. And I had no idea how to do that. And I was like, fuck, I need to find out how to do that. I can hardly make myself squirt. It's like a whole thing. Yeah. It's not real.

I'm sorry. Por makes it seem like it's like this like. The guys can hit with their, you know, like the finger thing. Yeah. So someone did that to me on set and I was like so like, oh my God,

I squirt it because I was like three or three years into porn, four years into porn and I finally like squirted. And I was so excited. I do remember him like doing that to me and like he went and Googled. I googled it. I googled and I googled and I watched the trailer and I was like, I'm going to figure out. Did you see any improvement?

Oh, yeah. Oh, it works. No, he knows. Yeah, he knows how to do it. But it's like so vigorous that it's like unless. It's really violent. Yeah. It looks.

I don't know if it feels uncomfortable. Yeah, it fucking hurts. I feel bruised inside. I mean, I've seen Adriana Chechick on our couch in our home just, just going crazy on that thing. Yeah. See, I worked with her to do a squirt show. And the only time I could actually squirt was when I was standing because I was like,

I don't know, being on your back and trying to like pee is kind of a hard way to fucking pee. Well, I can't. I can't, like, my, I get such, like, I'm such not a shy person, but as soon as, like, I try to, like, even squirt, like, if me and you are just doing, like, a content, I can't pee. Like, my, I get, like, a shy bladder. Like, I just, my body won't let it happen. It's weird. I don't know. It doesn't come naturally to just start peeing. Some girls can just let it go. Like, Adriana's insane. She's the squirt queen as well as I can tell. I know. I remember I went to, we all went, we had a five-way or four-way blowjob with my husband. We went to Adriana's first, and it was right before a Cardi B concert. And I was like thinking, I know. Best way to prep for that. So I was like thinking like, okay, like maybe I'll get a little spit on my face. And then when I got there, I was like, oh my God, I booked content with Adriana before a concert.

Like I was thinking maybe my hair would still be good and like my eye naked would be fine. I'm like, I'm going to be covered and squirt. So I just look like, can you just squirt on everyone else? And I'll lick it up. We walked in and Adrian goes, girl, do you want to squirt? I know. I was like, that's the first question. I'm like, uh,

and the concern. But it was fun. Did you guys intentionally both rock came out today? No. I told him, I was like, you're matching. We took a picture in the car.

I was like, oh, we're matching. He just got this hat, right? You look like you're in the same dance troupe. Yeah. We're a crew. Like behind Cardi B,

like you guys are just like dancing while she's rapping and shit? That'd be sick. We need like one more though. No, you just need to be rocking some camo. I got her nips out. Demonitize.

What are your questions, Glenn? You might want to look at that. Yeah, hit us with more with your questions. I remembered my questions as we were going, so I don't have that many on here. Okay. Oh, there are questions that you came up with. Because you've been pouring over the book. You read it all in a day.

I did. Do you self-publish this? No. So it's really funny. So I was like applying to all these agencies because I, like, I had no idea how to publish a book, but I googled it. And it was like, you find an agent. And then your agent will bring your book out. So I was contacting a bunch of people.

And in the back of one of my favorite books, she thanked, who is now my publisher. But I thought it was an agency. So I went and had a meeting. They liked my book, and they had a meeting. And I went there thinking they wanted to be my agent, but they were like, no, we want to publish your book. And I realized I'm at a fucking publisher. It's like, oh, my God. So I skipped the step of having an agent.

I went and met right with a publisher. And they just really believed in my book and they liked it. They said it went with like, because the first book I read was another porn memoir that I found them through, but I thought she was thanking her agent, but she was thanking her publisher. So, yeah, they published it and when I was writing it, I had no idea if it'd be published. Like, I kind of thought, like, this is probably like something maybe I'll give my daughter, like, when she's, like, 20 to read and, like, so she knows my whole life story. I think it'd be cool to have it regardless of it if it comes out, you know, yeah.

And I was, I wrote it, like, when I was pregnant and I wasn't working or anything, so it was kind of like I had nothing else to do. And I wrote it hoping, but I wouldn't, like, it's still surreal to me that, like, my book is going to be in Barnes and Noble when you walk in. Wow. Yeah, but I had him, he was deployed, and I was like, I think I want you to write in my book too. So, like, the very last chapter is Alex wrote.

And it's just, like, addressing, like, how can I marry a porn star? Like, how can you do that? And, yeah, I remember, like, when I was, like, reading it, I was like, oh, bad. You're perfect. I forget sometimes. So are you, how big are you going on this? Are you going to do, like, dates promoting it? Or, like, what's the plan?

Yeah, I know August 13th, I'm doing, like, the first official book tour, or the first book signing in L.A. But then I'm booking feature dancings around the country so I can do, like, a double of, like, book signings at a bookstore before my feature dancing. So, yeah, I want to do, like, a little book tour. So, wait, Barnes & Noble will let you, like, do a book signing as a porn star? They don't have anything against that?

I guess not, yeah. Yeah, but they're like, my publisher knows a bunch of, like, bookstores in little cities and stuff, but, um, yeah, it seems like everything. I couldn't believe, like, it's on Target's website, so it's going to be in some Target stores. I'm like, what the fuck? Like, I figured, like, if I ever got published, it would be, like, me putting an ebook on Amazon. Something, like, small like that, like, this whole thing is just crazy to me. Wow, that's super dope that you're doing it. So official.

Right. I thought, like, no one would take me seriously because of what I do. I really enjoyed it. And it's, I don't think it's because, just because I know. you like I was trying to figure that out but I like I bought we both read that Jenna Jameson book too you know and it's like I was just as interested in yours like super good and actually you just triggered my other question you're going to dance in the strip clubs but they don't they don't trigger you no I mean it's kind of hard

it's more so like if I was like a house girl like dancing I feel like that would be triggering to me but I know I'm there to do like my two shows I go on stage, do that, and then I get to be, like, kind of, like, in my own little bubble. Like, we've went on feature dancing when I was, like, newly sober. And it was, like, kind of triggering. But, like, my main thing is, like, alcohol doesn't... I can be around people drinking now.

Like, that's fine. But, like, if I, if you guys have, like, a line on the table, I'd be like, like... Like, that's my thing. Like, if I can't see Coke at all, like, that... Really? That's, like, my one thing. Like, I have to get the fuck out.

So, if you see some guy doing a bump in the corner, it's like... I'm going to be itching. sweating really i'm gonna be itching yeah remember i did that photo shoot where the guy put coke on the the dresser and the whole time that's all i was thinking about that he was doing coke you can't even watch narcos yeah if i see someone snorting i'm like skittling so is avian like hard for you and yeah yeah yeah avian is always like the hardest type it's not like i'm at a point you know once in a while it's when you decided to get clean yeah one guy one guy so yeah that was the last place i ever did Coke was at AVN, that one number, that last night, and we went out with the boom.

And I never did anything after that time. But like now that I have my daughter, like, it gives me a reason, like, I don't even consider it anymore. Before her, like, it was in my head, like, oh, I could do it, you know? But now it's just, like, solid. It's more so, like, not that I feel like I'm going to do it. It just really gives me, like, that weird itch, like, where I start fantasizing about it. But alcohol doesn't give me that.

Yeah, I remember when we went to do the five-girl orgia. I was super nervous because I never worked with a bunch of like legit girls. And so I brought some tequila with me. And I was like, is it okay if I drink around you? Like I wasn't sure. You're like, no, it's fine. I just wanted to be conscious. I loved that you asked.

I was like, oh. I filmed that and it was odd. And you also thought that when we were begging for the cum shot that was to you. Do you remember that? No, because you. That was a really funny thing ever in my life. Let me speak to my audience. So I show up to film a five girls.

And Lena had made it clear. She's like, I haven't asked the girls if they want to hook up with you, but I'm assuming that some percentage we're going to want or whatever. And then at one point, so they're all naked. They're all hooking up on this bed. And I'm just hanging out filming it. My dick's hard as a rock. It's kind of weird.

And then they go, they go, okay, so now we're going to do one where we're all begging for your come and you're filming us. And it's like, we're just begging you to just come all over our face. So I'm like, shit. All right. He whips his dick out? I took my pants off. I thought that you guys like, I don't know.

Talking to the hypothetical viewer. I know, but I wasn't, I didn't know that that's a thing in the, in the Snapchat girl world is that they'll do one where they're just, oh, give it to us, yes, uh, and like, that's, that's that's it. I was like, I forgot about that. It was funny.

Like, I was like embarrassed for him, but also thought it was the funniest, cutest, most adorable thing ever. Because I've never done stuff like that either. It's like a lot of, like, one of the first girls I went to work was she's like, you want to do jerk off instruction? and I was like, what?

Yeah. What the fuck is a jerk off instructions? And did you just tell the guy, like, how to masturbate to you? And, like, then you tell him to come. And I knew that you were really... Wrap your hand around your penis. She has one. What?

What? Your cock? You're slowly by slowly. Oh, my God. No. I have to. I like, on browsers. Like, they made me do a 10-minute video on how to give the perfect blowjob.

So I was, like, try and be all sexual. What I say? Like, slowly by slow. It's just, like, the most embarrassing, like, cringy video I've ever. made. That's amazing. That's amazing. I think the great thing about having a book, though, is just that you can sell it.

It's like a good long-term selling thing. Like, you could still definitely be pushing it in five years. Right. And that's very different than a lot of stuff. Like with, like, music, it's kind of like you put it out. And it's like, if it doesn't blow up, then, like, everybody's forgotten about it, like a year later, you know? Yeah, definitely.

And they already offered me, like, a second book. Like, they're talking, like, they want to have a relationship with me putting out books, like, in the future. So it's just, it's crazy that, like, to me, it's just like, you, you're taking me seriously. Like, you know, like, it's a weird feeling because I just still am like, in my head, I'm kind of like, oh, I'm just a porn star or like I just do porn, you know? I think it's dope, though, because like, really, at the end of the day, what's the difference between you and, like, Jenny Jameson?

It's like, she was just like a mouthpiece for the sex worker community, you know? It's like, why not? You can, you can write a book. Why not? Yeah, I love, it's a good feeling to, like, do something to make money other than, like, fuck. Because that's the only jobs I've ever had. It was webcaming, stripping them porn.

Those are the only jobs I've had. And Subway. Okay, yeah, I worked at Subway for like one week as punishment when I was in... Because my dad owns Subways in the town we're from. So I remember when I got in trouble, he made me work at Subway for a little bit. Holy shit. I think that working at Subway is a far more heinous act than I got a sex work. Oh, that's a punishment if there ever was on.

I hate the smell of Subway. I'm sorry to your dad. And I was like the class slut in high school already, so everyone's like, oh. with footlongs, ha-ha, like making little sex jokes. I look down on anyone who eats subway on a regular basis.

I really look at them with scorn and hatred. We were just listening to Joey Diaz talk of shit about subway last night. And I was so on board that... Her dad owned subway, babe. Let's be nice. I know, and if you're in the business

of subway, cool. But, like, you know, I know a lot of people who sell crack and they don't do crack. You could own a subway. Just do not eat at the subway. Go across town. Go to Bosanovas. Yeah.

Yeah, I know that. So where are you guys at in your life right now? Anything new going on aside from the book? What's up? Trying to figure out how we're going to do these feature dancing. Because I want to go with him. Because first of all, I feel like it's good to have a security person there, but also like... It's like good security.

Yeah, right? Except now he's going to be famous. All the time. This one guy came up to me one time. We were at, like, El Paso. And he's like, hey, how did you get this gig? Like, doesn't know he's my husband or anything. I didn't know.

I was her husband and I was like, I guess. But then it's hard because the clubs that book me don't want, like, a boyfriend or a husband coming along because they're just going to think he's there to, like, be jealous and, like, be over my shoulder and, like, monitor what I do. But I'm really like, no, he's dope. He's going to keep me safe. Like, he's going to carry my shit.

So I want him to come. But then we have a baby. We can't bring a baby to the strip club. So now we're trying to figure out how. Turn up. Yolo. You know, my baby knows some Cardi B lyrics. I don't know if I should put that out there.

Her two favorite songs at the moment. Money. Money by Cardi B. And my type. Wow. She goes, My type. That's my type.

Oh my God. She's not a Lil Nas X-F fan? No, she's not. I feel like that's the biggest song with little kids. I bet she would love that one though. Yeah. Because my friend had his four-year-old daughter in here the other day and she said, play the horsey's in the back.

Oh. Oh my God. So cute. Yeah. But that's like my struggle right now is like doing this, like, which was never a problem before to like go travel and feature dance. But it's like with a baby. And it's. And it's weird because, like, I'm so attached to her.

Like, I miss her right now, and I just saw her, like, maybe, like, two hours ago. So, like, going out of town for overnight, it's, like, so hard for me because I just love her. And, like, I'm trying to be the best mom I can. But, like, with my line of work, like, I'm constantly always thinking, like, oh, my God, she's going to hate me one day. Like, we brought her to Avia and Liz here. Wow. Yeah. Like, I couldn't be without her for those of, like, four days.

I'm like, I'm not being without her. So him and first stayed in the... She's not going to remember. She's still young enough. Yeah. She didn't come into the convention, but she was just in the same hotel room. She didn't do a signing. Yeah.

She didn't sign. I'd be walking through the hard rock with like a two-year-old, very clearly a two-year-old. And like all these performers that like knew her and knew me were like come and be like, hey, what's up, V? And like give her high-fives. Because they follow my personal social media. Yeah. But.

So I don't write anything about my daughter on my Carmen stuff just because people are immediately like. Oh, you have alternate social media. I didn't know that. Yeah. So I post literally my. daughter's my whole life and that's all I post on like my amber stuff. Oh, like that like I don't really really like that I want to like your real account.

That sounds interesting. Everything's private just because like my daughter. I don't want them to be like nasty but um anytime I do like if I like mentioned someone like some perform Tiana Trump was like I want to have a daughter one day and I really like retweeted and I said um that was like the best thing of my life like having a daughter and then the fucking roasting me roasting me and they're like well your daughter don't love you your daughter's not going I want love. Is she going to be a porn star one day? Yeah. So I just like deleted it and I don't mention anything about it just because I just don't even want. And I don't want to put her on my platform either. I'm going to be honestly, I don't think Tina Trump's ready. No. I love her though. Because like, we want to have kids in like a couple of years. So I was like trying to find a different Instagram name. I'm like, one of the mom. I was trying to go like save one. But then we were looking at Britannia and Britannia like puts all her kids on her page and her. clothes.

Yeah, like, I guess it can be done. Like, it's, it's not that impossible, but it's still weird. It's edgy. Well, Carly post pictures of her baby on her Carly thing. Like, but I feel like I almost feel like with a boy, it's almost different. I don't know. I don't want them to sexualize my girl. Like, you're setting.

You know what I mean? Like, I just don't want to post any pictures of her. Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I mean, I think it's like if you feel like you can handle it, then you should do it in the sense. that like if you can't handle having your appearance made fun of, then don't post pictures on the internet. If you can't handle your kid, people talking shit and making terrible jokes about your kid, then don't post your kid.

You know, that's like basically what it comes down to because you know the worst possible shit people could say is going to get said. Right. At the same time, though, well, I agree with that. I don't know. We don't know how V's going to feel down the road. She could be like totally like dope like awesome. She could be super dope and be like, cool, thanks for posting me on that.

Or she can be like, mom, why the fuck you post me on that? That's why I didn't do like prego fetish. When I was pregnant, I was like, I could have made so much cash off that. But, you know, I don't want her to. You did a couple of the... Yeah, I just didn't want her to be able to, like, Google and, like, be like, oh, my God, you were doing this when I was in your belly. Yeah.

So... That is a weird thing. Like, people who have YouTube channels where they just, like, promote their kids, like, crazy. It seems like it's all good. But then, like, you know, kids go through awkward phases, you know? And it's just, it seems kind of cruel almost to, like... We all... I mean, look at Kylie Jenner.

She had her awkward. phase on TV and look at her now. It's going to be fine. That's so true. I'm just fine. Yeah. It's a gamble because like, you know, you put your kid out there like that. I mean, we plan on putting our kids on a kid on YouTube.

So I mean, YouTube's different. From day one, you're paying your rent. Why is something that's going to be a he? Or he or she. Addis going to put it back in. He said it was a girl. This is like China. If we have a girl, then.

Oh, you would have like such a cute mini-me. I could pick you guys both like rocking the same scrunchies. you're not coming back from that one I'm more worried about the boy painting his nails oh we're painting his nails oh god that seems like a thing that you can't get away from nowadays

is that all the boys are painting their nails and I'm kind of freaked out by that your nephews have the nails painted really I didn't even know this was a thing did you I feel old I know I'm like wait guys are painting their nails now I don't know traditional gender roles I'm telling you I don't know

by the time they're like four then they realize oh that's a girl thing But until that age, just let them have fun. I'm going to tell them, day one, don't be a bitch. I will fucking kill you. Get out of here. That's for girls. Get out of here.

I'm buying her son a dollhouse, and you better believe we're playing pretend. Really? A dollhouse. A lot of times, girls develop language better and faster because they make up these imaginary scenarios in the dollhouse. So, I mean, you can do the same thing with, like, a train track, I guess. They can make up a scenario, but it's a lot, the types of conversations, they end up having because they're using like this house scenario is something better for those

when you were talking about your seven-year-old all-female or G, I was thinking about the fact that when I was like 11 or 12 me and all my friends took the Power Rangers and the Barbies and we put the power Rangers and Barbie dresses and then we set them all up like have a big orgy and I thought that was bad. I was actually doing it. Yeah. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I mean, is it bad for seven-year-old girls to like be natural?

We were saying that we were going to practice. I think it should be discouraged. Yeah. If I was a parent, I would say no orgies. No words. Stop. Yeah. I mean, we were just like, we should practice having sex.

Oh, that's a little weird. Yeah, that's weird. If I found out that my 12-year-old daughter was doing that, I would be like upset. I would tell her, you know, number of, I don't want to have that conversation. I think you could have that conversation, but I think you're supposed to discourage that. But seven is so damn young. The guy who beat his daughter's ass because she was 12 and she had sex when he found out. He beat her ass?

He beat her ass and it was like on Twitter And all these guys in the comments were like That's what she deserved And I'm just like There was the video of it? I think so He's like, Let me set up my camera real quick

You're ass gonna give her a friggin' Mental Disorder doing that girl I'm sorry You're fucking of her future sex forever Oh I mean I just feel like yeah She's not gonna develop Her thought process on sex

I'm not fucked up if you're And then that's why people lie to their parents And they're not honest you know Yeah And then they fucking get pregnant You gotta find the way to discourage it besides beating the shit out of her. You've got to figure out a way to talk to her.

Like telling me I'll go to jail. I was fucking scared. I was like, all right. Shouldn't be doing that anymore? Do you watch that show, Euphoria? No. Okay,

you should watch it. It's like, for me, it's a lot because it's like, they're in high school and they're doing all this crazy shit that I didn't even know people doing in high school. But I feel like you can't,

you can't tell their kids not to have sex. It's just like, in high school, everyone's fucking doing it. Just pray that they're ugly and then nobody will want to have sex shit. I was fucking ugly. No way. I was.

There was a real threshold or limit. Like, I would have been having a lot of sex in high school if there were more girls that wanted that sex with me. The problem was that I was not really that attractive. You were tall. You had that going for you. Yeah. I don't want to go so far.

Plus. You see? So far. I was super awkward looking in high school. Dude, you got to look up John Hicks on YouTube at some point because you look like a fucking buff-ass version of this dude that we're all friends with that a lot of people out there. No.

But you look like the fucking mannish-ass. version of him. Dude, I was tiny in high school. Really? Yeah. And when we went to his reunion, everyone was like, oh my God, what happened to you?

Like same height, like 175 pounds. I played soccer. Oh, yeah, soccer players were always super, like, lean. It was string being at Campbell Hall. If you didn't start, like,

working out lifting, do you think you would have a harder time getting or staying sober? I think so because it was, like, my new addiction. Like, it wasn't like I was just, like, casually working out. Like, I was tracking.

every single calorie to make sure I get this many grams of protein, this many grams of fat. And I have my whole work, because I'm, like, obsessive about things. Like, I, like, I have such an addictive personality that I have to have, like, an addiction about something. Like, Van Centro is kind of, like, my addiction right now, like, checking the money, you know, like in my thing. Like, I'm such just my personality. Man is also addicted to that.

Yeah. And who's addicted to their fucking YouTube analytics, huh? Baboom! Yeah, I mean, it's also, like, there's a high you get from working out. Yeah, it's probably endorphins. So would you recommend anyone trying to get clean to pursue it? Definitely. I would say use that as like a healthy addiction because I was definitely obsessed.

That was my whole life was just fitness. But it was a healthy addiction. So it was good. And it was the first time taking care of my body and it felt good. And yeah, on the high, it's cool to like leave with the hide, but you didn't just do a bunch of cook. Remember the first time he tried to take me to work out? Oh my God. It's ridiculous.

I snorted like three Adderall But I was thinking I was like it's just it's just pre-workout Like I did not have a concept that you could go do things without drugs Did I know that you did that? When we pulled up out like my heart is killing I snorted a bunch of Adderall And we had to like try it again the next day I would like kill myself then snort three Adderall That sounds deadly

And then like to go work out your poor my like my heart I was like I knew I couldn't do it I'll never forget because I worked At LA Fitness when we went to LA Fitness And so her check in photo She went to like a big Sean concert Oh, my ass shirt. And so the shirt is just from here up, it's just his ass.

With my money signs. I was like, yep, there's my girlfriend. My boss sees this every time she comes into the gym. Ash, ass, eyes, eyes, oh, gosh, oh, okay. That was so funny. Oh, yeah, um, okay. So. Get Carmen's book.

It's really good. I think it was very good. I think this is exactly what they want. I'm actually really anxious to see what angle the comments go with in terms of talking shit about this. Right. Probably going to get called a cuck. Yeah, that's the thing.

It's just, I guess that's just, does it turn you on when you watch me doing it or no? Is it just like, that's her job? It's like that's your job. Like, it's not. Yeah, because he's never been like, you want to see.

It's not like in a weird, creepy way where you want to see it. Have them go around. It's never like you're into it for like your sexual gratification. You're just like being supportive of me. Right. But I don't think a lot of people look at that

because no one would, want their girl being banged by all these dudes. I feel like it's good for the audience, though, because of the fact that they talk shit because it actually is hard for them to comprehend how this kind of relationship could work. So I think it's like actually going to be a really interesting experiment to see what everybody says because of the fact that they clearly are curious. And I feel like your perspective on it is very respectable that like nobody's going to be looking at a thing like, this guy's a fucking psycho.

This guy's a tweaker. Like you sound just like totally like it just isn't that big a deal to you it's like everybody I feel like they're gonna have to be except like oh shit I guess some people are different than me Yeah I think I'm just wired different everyone has a different threshold like I don't give a fuck about people looking to my girlfriend naked on Twitter Right and some guys would be like so upset about that Well a lot of people watching are really young and they're still in the mentality that like you have to be jealous over your boyfriend liking someone's photo like that's totally like a normal thing to them so they can't imagine how you allow me to allow me to post nudes you know like it's seems insane. Everybody's got a different threshold. But then again, also, a lot of girls would not understand how the fuck you could date a guy that comes on here and says some of the stuff I say.

Oh, I mean, I have, when we first started dating, I used to need to use my mantra all the time. I don't anymore because I'm just so used to it. But I was like, he's saying these things because he has a podcast and it's for the podcast, the podcast, the humor of it, the entertainment of it. Like, you know, it's like, I was like, for the views. Like, I was just telling myself, like, there was one time you said something where I was like, this motherfucker. And I like texted you He was high as shit Was not even paying attention to what he was saying

He's on live He's like some girl walks and he's like Man I don't really want to fuck that girl Oh my shit And I was like excuse me I was just talking to my home And she was hot I know but you were talking like the camera was off

But it wasn't and I was like I don't see why that's a big deal I feel like you apologize And you thought it was a big deal It's time don't take it back The relationship that I'm in That I'm the most comfortable in Is one where I should be able

To say that a girl's attractive without. So I should be able to talk about my exes and the size of her dicks, right? Sure. So I'll sell on that last one. That's one side. It's over there. Everybody's got a different threshold. I feel like I tell you everything about like

details about dude's dicks and like exes and like. Sometimes a little too much. Not because I don't want to know or like it hurts me. I held nothing back to you. Yeah. What would be an example of too much? Too much? I'm trying to think.

Like the one. I always go to is Alina Lopez telling me that a guy couldn't get hard on set so she ate his ass out for 30 minutes while she was texting her boyfriend. Oh, probably. Any kind of fluffing type thing might bother me, to be honest. We know what bothers you. It's a lot. No, I don't.

No, yeah. I don't like fluff. I'm, like, I'm, like, always offended, and I'm like, this is your one job, like, just to stay hard. Yeah, but I do know that it is hard for guys to do that. It is a lot of pressure for the guys. Because girls, you can just be like. You know, you don't have to like really have no outward showing of, hey, I'm ready to go. Mm-hmm.

But I'm trying to think of like an overshared that you've... I've told you like everything. I tell you about like everything I ever do. Yeah. I honestly don't think, oh, we'll like, we'll like meet a guy that I've never like seen her perform with. I think it was like an alien, like the first avian that we went to. Uh-huh. And you're like, oh, he has like a 12-inch dick.

like as I'm shaking this man's hand I'm just letting you know I'm like just telling you the backstory of everyone I'm like thanks he seems like a nice guy too but you have to remember my world is so much different than yours like what's normal to me like I remember it was really hard for me once I like started having a personal life outside of porn

to understand like you can't talk about anal sex at a table when there's other people around you like I'm just like in a different world I think the funniest thing was for me seeing like the difference just because she's like so in her own world all the time is when we were at Christmas with my parents

and my dad asked her what kind of music she wanted to play like thinking it was going to be like some like Frank Sinatra Christmas music or whatever like whatever her family plays back home for Christmas. She goes she goes I don't know

two chains or something of that nature and I said like hip hip hop or rap or something and he just like looked at me and said nothing And then played like Christmas music. Oh my God. I didn't know what you say.

I was trying to be myself. It was the funniest thing. If your dad asked me to pick a station, God, I don't know what the fuck I would do either. Right. I was like, hip-hop. My dad would never think like, oh, let's put music on. No.

You definitely not trying to pay music. I don't think his brain's wired that way at this point. But it's super cool because I think, honestly, going back to my parents, my parents have been like super accepting and like open. Not at the beginning. Not at the beginning. My mom.

Sorry, mom. My mom, put you on blast for a second. My mom said when I wanted her, we were at dinner at a restaurant in the valley, a long time ago, before we got married. She never met me yet. She hadn't met her yet, and I was like, mom, she's like, what do you want for Christmas?

I was like, I want you to meet my girlfriend. My mom looked me dead in the face and said, I will never meet that whore ever. Hot take. And I said, all right. And he walked home. And I walked up and I walked like five miles back. back to my car. Wow. And then drove. I was super scared of like, but now like me, we're like best

friends. It's, it's awful. Yeah, we're like gal-house. So they accept me now and it's like I can talk to her about it more than I can talk to it to my own dad. Oh yeah for sure. Like she'll ask you questions about like like work and how things work and stuff like that. But I mean I get it like you don't want your your kid to marry a porn sorry. And at that point I was like still like my Instagram was like well I was not shy about I was doing drugs. and stuff and everything was like naked and like that's what she said too she's like you were the first adult performer I've ever met of course I'm gonna have these kind of like preconceived notions about who you are and what you're about and my parents know something but I don't I think

they're just trying to think about it when we're gonna vacation with your family before I ever met your sister or your mom or whatever one of your sister's friends said like is she gonna like dress appropriately around the kids like straight up ask your sister that and I'm like like, God, imagine it did not address appropriately around children, how weird that would be. I want to be surprised. I used to be a nanny.

You come out on a tube top. I honestly was scared about wearing this in front of your mom. I went to dinner with her after this, and apparently my boobs are coming out. So this hair just came out. So this hair's got to stay right here. My bed might go buy a cardigan or something. Control yourself.

You want a hoodie? I literally texted my sister a photo of the office to make sure it was good for your mom. It's cute. It's like florally. I just think about one time I went to Rosco's chicken and waffles with my mom and that there was like a 400 pound black woman and then my mom just kept like looking back in her and just going like that woman's boobs are so big my mom who's just

like so interested in this woman having gigantic boobs I said something to her about my boobs and she couldn't stop giggling she got so shy she got so uncomfortable and I was like okay maybe not my mom you should bring this up my mom one time we were playing scrabble and she wrote the word cunt I've never, ever seen her lap this hard. It's like 15 minutes of giggling. Oh my gosh, that's so cute. I love her. Enough mom talk.

I love her. This is a segment that we call mom talk. Tell stories about our mom so that everybody thinks that we're actual people. I love her. Okay, well, I appreciate you guys. You got anything else playing while you're in L.A.? I was going to shoot some content. I don't know.

I don't know what we're going to do tonight. Now I think we're going to see a movie or something. You can just go stand out and try and play. front until you find some guy to just girl kid in camo pants to just do a scene with there you go my idea I'm looking for some like

we saw a little Fottiana's walking around oh yeah they were like 14 okay alright bye and I quote oh my god she has braces where's her mother that's a thing though now some girls have fake braces oh really

because dudes like it so much that's gross I just found out about this it's super weird to me because you're looking at them and they look like they're like 25 like they're dressed up like little girls but you can tell they're not and then they have fake braces it's very confusing I've seen I've seen cam girls wear like pacifiers during their camp show I'm like oh my gosh it's a race to the bottom yeah I can never do that stuff anymore having a kid like yeah like even like stepmom stuff like I could never if I was

doing I could never do a scene where I'm like a stepmom to like a girl or something now just because it would just make me think up my daughter the dynamics too weird yeah it's too real it's like I see that there's a, I forget which company it is, but they do like, the whole scenario is like in the psych ward sort of thing and they're like fucking patient and I'm like, damn. You know, as a psych major, I really just can't appreciate

it. It just feels a little like too real and too weird. You guys are making me feel bad about all that World War II porn I used to jerk off. Shut the fuck up. No? It's too much. There's real World War II porn? I don't know, maybe. Oh God, I hope not.

I hope not. So many people are going to go with that up there. Dude, I used to hang out the girl who like played marge and a Simpsons porn. You have hung out with a lot of girls. Her whole body was paying yellow and shit. It was gross.

I didn't like that. It was hot. I'm like, who would be into this? I remember I watched Family Guide porn once. Yeah, she did one of them too. Yeah, it was the dog fucked. Lois. Oh, that's me.

That's wrong. No, I liked it. I know you did. Oh, I've, oh, Brian. Oh, Brian. That is what, like, Brian is just pining for Lois the whole fucking show. That actually, I would make sense.

Watching it finally happened, yeah. It's part of the canon of the show. Yeah. I mean, you really got off to that? Dude, like, from doing porn for so many years, I'm so, like, watching regular porn. Her search history? It's disturbing. It's just all different presidents.

I open her phone, and I open her phone and I'm, like, typing something. Oh, God. It was on porn. I was like, whatever. Let's just see what this is. The first thing that I found in her search history was, like, what was it, like, BBC gang band? dang dumpster.

They were getting... It was like, what in the... It was a garbage can. It was a girl. Oh my God, I just saw this on part of it. I couldn't click it. The girl was in the garbage can and she was giving a head in the garbage can.

But you were searching for just you wanted to find dumpster point or you knew that dumpster point existed and you wanted to go see it. No, okay, so I saw this hot scene that, well, it's kind of fucked up that I liked it. But this girl was getting fucked in like this dumpster and like all these

dudes were just like using her. And then I wanted to refine that video like months later. I was thinking about it. So I was trying to find it. So I was searching and going through all of them. But then I like settled on one like I was, I think it was a dog fart scene where like she was like on an upside down garbage can. And then dudes are just like running a train on it. Wow.

You know, actually the other day I had the weirdest experience because it was midday. Girlfriend was gone. All of a sudden I just had to get one out. So I've actually started like watching porn a little bit lately. Weird. What's your category? Yeah, right. No, okay.

I'll tell you. I searched anal orgy. I just wanted to see what would come up and so I see that the reality show the Brasers house thing Don't watch any girls I don't like I'll fucking kill you

Oh no there was definitely some girls I know who was in that house That's what I'm saying It was weird for me because we know Like half of the girls in it Yeah right And they're all It's just like weird watching people you know

Right and I don't mind that normally But it was just the fact that there were so many It was such a free-for-all It was so weird And I was skipping through so I didn't actually see it, but it seemed like there were like weird segments where they were like they sit and they talk, right? I mean, or there's like, it seems like there's like events or like contest type stuff.

It was very strange. And I, because I saw so many girls saying like vote me into Brasers House for a while. Yeah. Yeah, when the Brasers House thing happens. But I love free for all because it's just like, like, I love, I loved our five way girl thing because there was just like so much pussy. There's a lot going on. Yeah.

Like, I love that. So much fake moaning. Oh, yeah. Don't call us out there. Every single one of you. Guys, just fake. Yeah. Oh my God.

And then the camera cuts and they're like, okay, what's up? But no. Wait, listen. When I watch my scenes, I do be like, oh, my God, I sound fucking terrible. But, like, in the moment, I feel like I'm being for real. Yeah. Like, obviously you played up a little bit, but like when I'm like eating your all or looking at a pussy, or girls eat me out, I'm into it.

Well, the scene of you and Rob from your showcase as like all of the comments on porn hub where she's getting like fucked in the pool. Well, I have Rob drowned. He's pushing her head underneath the water. And she's like screaming and he shoves her head. under, and like, all the comments are like, man, I'd shove that bitch's head under two if she was screaming like that. They rose me.

And I was like, I was like, oh, shit, you just got roasted. Well, I sound disgusting. And I hate the sound of my moaning. I think it's, I can't, I can never see my porn or the trailer with the sound on. I hate the sound on my porn. You can't watch yourself having sex. I can watch it like the intro and like the trailer. But then I don't like to watch myself because I just like critique it all.

I think I sound like a dying animal or something. You know, I feel like this podcast could go viral. The last podcast we did that went viral was when we had a couple girls on, and one of them was Violet Saucy, phrase her name, right? I think so. And she was talking about how she wanted to get up to shit all over her. And that went viral. To shit all over her?

People are still talking about it. That clip is still going around because she's talking about like, yeah, I asked my agent. He said that I would have to go to Germany. Because they won't let you film it. Yeah, because remember I did, I did a scene. She said she would make them eat clean for a week. I'm like, no way.

We're eating chili fries. Okay. Ew. You had that one scene that they couldn't release because it was like bananas and milk. Me and my friends, this was back in like my crazy co-core days of course. We ate a bunch of bananas and chugged like a gallon of milk and did puke porn. Like peatmas and below job. Like it was just like we were.

And I remember I ate chicken nuggets before. And one of my friends like I puked up the chicken nugget and she picked up the chicken nugget. Dipped it in the puke and ate it. Oh. Porn. Amazing things take place in this community. be real. Yeah, I've done some weird things.

Spiegler was talking about that the other day. I was like, yeah, we'll be in the Uber and we won't even be thinking about the fact that this is weird for the driver. Everybody's talking about douching their assholes. Right. It's such a, you get so normalized to everything. I mean, Spiegler is like the Uber driver, though, because

he doesn't really like know or care that much about anything that actually happens on set. He said he hasn't been on set in like 20 years. Wow. Yeah. That's great. He's like, the OG though. Facts. Is it hot or it's just me?

You're hot? It's hot. It's because I started talking about the browser says. Maybe. I didn't, honestly, I didn't really jerk off. I don't even know if that person that I hate is in that house. I just got mad because I was just thinking about it. No, honestly, I just started looking at it and just started, like, I wasn't jerking

off to that. I was just looking at it because it was like the reality show, the thing. I was like, I want to see what this is like. I didn't really have it in me to watch almost any of it for more than like 20 seconds. When I watched porn with you, this is how it goes. We decided we're going to watch. You're like 10. You look.

over like every couple minutes and then you fucking close the screen and then we continue fucking so it's very minimal actual watching. Yeah but when I drink off to porn in real life like without you there it's just like two and a half minutes of me fucking jamming on my day.

D. Yeah. Furious violent mass imagination. I scream at the top of my life. I love when we go to watch porn together he grabs my phone. He doesn't even ask you when I want to watch. He just automatically writes interracial gang bang. You already know my category. And then I'm going, for the best parts, I'm going through it.

And, like, still trying to, like, retain, like, the mood. And she's like, no, I already saw that one. It says, it's a watched on. Yeah. Watch, watch, watch. But you know what it is so bad at me, too, is that the only time I've spent money on born and, like, my entire adult life, like, the last, like, 10 years was we got a black membership just because a girl that we know, we had a fucking bunch of dudes running

through her and we wanted to watch it. And then we never even remember it. We never watched it. But we should watch it. because I do want to watch some of their scenes. Yeah, that's my category, too. There's something about it. Really?

I'm just kidding. I was like, like, babe, I'm into black only. No, but I understand the black perspective that like there's something about watching a girl get ran through.

I'm more about the scenario. Like, obviously the guy being attractive does make a difference, but it's like the scenario, once I was watching a black scene and it was like they were having like some party that would really fun and then it turned into a giant origin.

Like that was like a hot concept. Nothing but gangstos. party. Obviously, Jason Love was in it. Really? Jason Love. He told me what he's like, I'm on your no list, huh? I'm like, everybody's on my fucking list.

If you have a penis, you're on my no list right now. One time, Trippy Red called me gay because I was at a party and Jason Love showed up and I was with Trippy Red and I introduced, just like what you were saying before, I introduced Jason Love to Triper Red. I go, Trippy, this guy's got the biggest dick you ever seen. Trippies just looks at me and he's like, you gay as hell, man. What the hell is wrong? He was really offended.

It's just facts. And it's true. At the end of the day, exactly. It's like it's such a freakish attribute to have that it's, it would be like if you had fucking three vaginas. I'm going to introduce another homie and be like, she's got three vaginas. I mean, he's such a massive human that if he didn't have a dick that big, it'd be fucking weird. It's so big in real life, though.

Like, I knew it was big, but like when we were about to start blowjop and stuff, I looked at it, I was like, holy shit. It's not going anywhere. Look at that cannon. I was like, that has to go in my ass. I'm scared. Oh, my God. I met him and thought he seemed like fucking pretty normal.

normal guy and then I looked at his Twitter and he's out here with like a water like a pollen Springs bottle next to his car just like he's like wake up in the morning he's like damn I got a big ass joke that's all I picture his brain working in the morning yeah it's like it's so funny Jason gets talked about this podcast so much on the phone you have to get him on here oh yes we got him he's a cool dude too like he like is all into like poetry and like reading and really yeah and he has like a normal life and like a family and he said that he's like super well off and he got into porn just because he's a pervert wow like he didn't get into it because he's like damn i need to make money like he's like i'm

just doing this because i want to fuck right and he has like a normal life thing in louisiana with like his daughter and stuff like he's super like dope he just wants to fuck we got to get him to come through with some fucking girl that he's just ravaged so she can talk about the damage that was just under her vagina um don't i don't think a girl wants to get well yeah it's clearly clearly not me but my shit is right let me tell you Up, I'm not trying to go be on a podcast. No offense. Just to walk in as an advocate, he's like, yes.

This guy got a monster. Oh, yeah. I've definitely been around girls who are like, oh, my God, please book me with Jason Love again, like talking to people. I'm like, oh, okay. You're like, I want to find out. No.

Give me that thing. My booty hole is a little bit. Hey, baby. If you ever want to get more open-minded, baby. I'm going to get it after this, you guys. She covers the microphone. Like, what do you think this does? And still speak to recognition.

Oh my God. All right. Well, hey. Buy Carmen's book. That's all I want to say. Yeah, you can go. What's the easiest way to get at Amazon? Yeah, Amazon.

I mean, even if you just search Carmen Karma on Amazon or Carmen Karma, my book's called Overcome. And it's on Amazon. I think you can get like the audio version, the ebook or the hardcover. Did you read your own book for the audio version? Yeah, it was really hard. It takes like a week or something, right? It took like I think four days, but it was like in there all day long just like killing it. But it was hard.

It was harder to read it out loud than it was to write it. Really? Yeah. Like certain subjects, I was like, oh, I do not want to do this chapter. And then when I had to read your part out loud, that's what like made me super emotional. Did you cry? No, I don't cry. Reading a book, that must be like when rappers are in the studio and they're just like, they got their engineer and they're just punching in and just every time they mess up, they got to start.

They got to redo that line and you're just sitting there. Yeah. I had to keep redoing different words. I was like, how do you pronounce this properly? The guy's like, you've wrote it. What do you mean having you pronounced it? I was using big words. Like, yeah, Reddit never said it.

Yeah, don't you go like a dictionary.com app or something? Yeah, so I'm like trying to sound all smart. And then I'm like, fuck, I have to read this shit. But it was fun. It was fun. It's so cool. Like, everyone's sending me like the screenshots on social media and it's just like, it's weird that like my book's out there.

And then it's weird. I'm like, you guys actually want to read this. I wanted Lennon to read it because I'm like, this is the only porn girl I know that reads. I hope that's not true. I was just going to say, I recommend you guys get the hardcover

because there was like eight pages of photos and they were really nice to look at to see like where you were. It's such a happy ending too that it was just such a great story to read because the whole time I'm like, oh my God, this poor girl's in trouble.

Yeah. At the end, everything's great. Picture this. I walk backstage at one of our shows in London and you got on one side of the room you got rappers snorting kettis. mean and on the other side of the room we got Lena curled up reading a book.

Oh, that's adorable. So funny. I didn't know any of the words of the song. I want to read the book. That's so cute. That's adorbs. I'm glad that you read it. Oh, I loved it.

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No, I'm super cool. We post nudes, so you're going to want to follow our Twitters. 18 plus. He's not trying to get followers. Editor, don't go on for his ad, right? Do we have your consent to not tag you? Is that the plan? Yeah, he doesn't need to be tagged.

It doesn't mean, it doesn't matter either way, but. I don't care. Either way. Okay. That's what?