No Jumper - Is Wack Next to Get Indicted?? Adam Links with The Feds, Luce Cannon Crashes Out & More

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

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I have something I want to tell you before we get into any street stuff, before we start talking about any kind of hood politics, etc. I want to confide in you and let you know that on Wednesday morning, I was penetrated by a man. That ain't my type of conversation. Welcome to No Jumper to Adam and Wax show. What's crazy about it is that I don't remember anything. I was drugged.

Now, for the record, this was a colonel. colonoscopy. This wasn't just regular old, hunky door. I did. Now, what I understand is that they penetrate you. They put a camera inside a hole. My thing is, I don't remember any of it. What you mean? They put the needle. They drugged you as though? Yeah, yeah. They put a needle into my hand, which is that alone was kind of disturbing. But then they snap a little thing into it that inserts a drug into my bloodstream immediately lights out. I wake up, I don't know, a half hour, an hour later or whatever. My first words to the nurse was,

it's done? He goes, yeah, yeah, it's done. You're good. And I'm like, what? So, I mean, if it's that easy to drug a man and just take his manhood, how many times has this happened to me before? Oh, no. But that's a procedure that you need to go.

I tried to go down there. On me? No, it's crazy. No, to go get a colonoscopy. I tried to go down there because they were saying 40 you're supposed to go. This is my second time. But it's crazy, though, right? Because when I tried to go at 40, they said, well, you don't need to come to you 45.

Right? So when I went at 45, they said, well, you don't need to come to you 50. They want you dead. Knowing some real shit. Maybe the doctors are crips. You went to your private physician? I got it done in Cedars. But it was recommended because I was actually suffering from colitis.

Well, that's why. Why? Yes. That's why? Because they asked me a bunch of questions about this, this, that, and other. I'm like, no, I'm saying like, all right, well, you don't need to come until you, like, because I've always heard at 40 years old, all males need to go. Right.

So when I went, they asked me a bunch of questions, and they told me what they told me. I mean, I got my first one. You had a condition. My first one was when I was like 36. Did you have something going on? I think at that time, the doctor just said this is a good idea. It's better to figure out if you got anything early on. Yeah.

I mean, the crazy part is that I didn't eat for an entire day prior to that. It was my first time doing a full day fast, and I actually really liked it. And I'm thinking of doing more of this. Yeah, I mean, just think about it. But think about it if you did it like every Wednesday. Oh, man, yeah. That's why I'm scared of, though, because I pretty much were sitting around all day. I didn't really, like, do much.

So I'm kind of like wondering. I think you should juice, though, while you fast. I mean, there's a lot of calories in that, too. I'm trying to lose weight. That's my primary concern here. Not if you use your natural juicer. And you use it. I don't think juice is.

as good an idea as you probably do. No, depending on what you put in there. It's like beet juice, beet ginger, yeah. Celery, spinach. You don't, like, don't load it up with apples, oranges, pineapples.

There's a lot of sugar in that shit. Does what I'm saying. Yeah, but if you use things that don't have a lot of sugar in it, that's like good for the blood. I used to be under the assumption that juicing would be really, really good for my health, like especially if I'm trying to lose weight. And as time goes by,

most people that I ask about it are really not that. producing. It's good for you, but if you're trying to get in shape, it's a lot of fairly empty calories. I don't know. Either way, back to me getting penetrated. I wish you were there. You're not, bro. I wish you could have watched over the doctor to make sure that they didn't do anything weird. That's weird. You got a colonoscopy, bro. That's not a, like you're mixing, like, medical shit with some weird-ass kinky sexual. But there, there is an underlying element of it that was kind of sexual. What are you talking about?

When I went in, I had a boner. When I came out, I had a boner. And I really don't know why. Bro, because I've been telling you you're a gay man. No, I think it was the fact that there was the nurse. I felt like she was kind of feeling me. I think she knew who I was. And I don't know that she's the one who actually penetrated me,

but just the conversation, just having a nice little dialogue with a young lady. might have got me into the bone zone. Because that was hard. Big hard. That's your business, man. Yeah. What about you? No, nothing like that lately. I don't have conversations like that with me and, bro.

That's Kay. I think anybody who's seen the picture of you laying face down on the bed thinks that you probably need a colonoscopy. Who? Just, I'm speaking for the fans. All men need that, bro. Right. I just think based on that photo,

it just kind of made me feel, like this is a man who needs to be probed. There could be something wrong in here. What are you talking about? Okay. We can move on. Maybe you're not ready for this conversation. I don't do gay combo, bro.

You do. You just do it in a different way. I don't. Yeah. You just act like you're not a willing participant. I talk to my woman about sexual shit. Y'all be like doing all kind of way out shit. Well, that is part of the thing is that me getting in the calling

It did kind of feel like I was cheating on Brick because typically that was the kind of stuff that he and I would do. You know what Brick brought this on his cell? Yep. Because right now where he's at, this ain't good conversation for him. I was just kidding. So all the prisoners, to all the J-Hoods of the world watching this, I'm just kidding. Never did anything gay with Brick. He said it, not you.

He did say it. But that's sex play. Yeah, but Brick's been to jail before it. That's just like the woods, they sex play each other in jail. Brick said the blacks do it as well. Nah, they don't sex. Brick said it's not as out of the ordinary as some people try to claim. He a motherfuck-a-law.

Brothers in there don't do no sense. The Crip card, the blood card, the Paroo card, the Muslim card, they do not. The Christian card, don't nobody. You haven't been locked up in like 30 years. It don't matter. Things might have changed. 30 years before I got locked up, the rules were the rules. The time I was there.

is the rules and the time I haven't been there. Things have got a lot gay, or I'm guessing. Nah, I'm sure. There's a lot more. It could be, but the straight people, they don't do it.

But again, maybe brick, he isn't straight. Maybe he's kind of like bye, I don't know. Maybe, I don't know. Maybe his sense of humor

is going to change while he's in there and he's going to, like, get word of me making these sort of gay jokes about him while he's in there and he's not going to be feeling it. But as far as I know of him, I feel like he would appreciate it. He would like to know. that I'm still keeping this sort of thing alive.

Anyway. Are you putting some on his books? Sure. You just said that... What? Well, you just ran down on Flacco and gave him a big old bear hug, which is interesting because he's actually... He's got a variety of conspiracy theories about you.

And... You should call him in here, bro. He seems... Well, he's on the news right now, but he seems as if... What's the conspiracy theory? I don't... See... He thinks you're losing your mind, and he thinks that you might snap and do something to him.

His words. I'm losing my mind. Why does he think that? He says that you seem angry, irrational, that he just feels like you're kind of on the verge of doing something crazy. And he didn't say it, but it feels like the suggestion is that maybe this is because of the stress that the big Uriko is putting on you,

since you might feel like since you were so wrapped up in so much of his dealings that maybe you're next on the Fed's platter. What do you mean dealings? You know, like I'm a mom. watching Rich Homi Kwan and he's talking about how, uh, when, rest in peace that when he had to come to L.A. and check in that it was like you and big you sort of two men in the situation. We was having a conversation.

About checking in? No. I was already up to having a conversation. Again, he poured up. See, y'all got it. This was crazy. Uh-huh. When it come to me, you motherfucked seem to catch amnesia when somebody's telling the story.

Mm. He said he landed at L.A. whoever picked him up, whoever he was with, told him we need to go to Crenshaw High. He said, oh, okay, that's the blue side. So I don't know a rich homie quite,

I don't know, I didn't know him from me. I really knew his mama. You were at the football game, talking business with big game. No, we were in the parking lot having a conversation. He pulled up. To check in.

Yeah, well, you got to remember. That ain't my neighborhood. Right. So he ain't pulling enough for me. Uh-huh. It wasn't like we were scheduled to meet Rich Horme-Equine that day. Okay. You get what I'm saying?

So he pulled up and I seen him and I never forget it. I'll tell you why I remember it. Because at the time, it was, I used to confuse him and young thug. Okay. Right. Typical unc mistake of that era? Yeah, so when he pulled up, they all got out the car, everybody dapped each other up.

I'm kind of like letting them do their thing because whatever he come to do, I don't know what he came to do. And he didn't lie. He wanted him to go out there, I guess, with the kids. You know on the football field, you know what I'm saying? You know the kids in the gut, they don't see a lot of that shit.

And that was all that was. But I don't, him saying that, I think he added to the conversation saying, you flew in here and you staying. in here and staying there because those elements don't fit what he was there to do.

That's kind of like, you're kind of like issuing a threat. You know what I'm saying? Well, you're telling somebody you're staying here and your driver with this person and it's just that. It's kind of like, you kind of like issuing like a side and like threat. But I think he added that to it.

And that's a conversation we need to have today that a lot of these podcasts and when people get caught up in conversation some of it be tainted with some real shit and then a lot of it be tainted with some bullshit you're saying people make up stories inflate stories to make him crazy you land right yeah

whoever he's with already than had conversations with big you bro we come in we're gonna pull up on you right so me knowing him he like what time y'all get in hey bro we're coming that way we're

you're getting in. Cool, pull up on me. I'd be at practice with the kids. Right. You get what I'm saying? Like, I'm sitting it play out. That'd be cool for the kids. Nephew could come over here and, you know, come out there for the kids, right? Uh-huh. This had to be in 2015-ish era. Yeah.

Something like that. So if he actually came in, right, it went straight to Crenshaw high, jump out, big you're like, oh, shit. y'all really here. What's up, nephew, whatever? I bagged up, what's up on me? What's up? Now, he knew who I was.

At that time, I remember I confused him with young thug. I ain't even lied to you. Right? So he said, yeah, man, you cool with going out here. You know, with the kids. You know, they're out there. You know, they're going to go crazy. They're fans.

He's like, yeah, shit, cool. So he went out there and walked with the kids and they did that shit. So why in that situation would a person go having a conversation about motherfucker know who you stand at who your driver is. I think it's at least in part because... It don't even make sense. Much like Big You, you've kind of gone into detail about a variety of situations

that a lot of people are conflating with extortion at this point. What you mean about that? What you mean? It's been supposed, and we don't have to get into the details of every single one of these situations, but it's been... You basically said in the past

that Oscar de La Jolla was paying to not have his nude photos or his zesty photos, release. Stop right there. It's been said that you have, that you were talking to Nipsy's family about the gay tapes of him not coming out. I don't know if there's money involved in that. It's been suggested that maybe Kim Kardashian at one point or Kanye that they were doing stuff for you so that you didn't release more sex tapes of her. Okay. Now, let's start with the first one. And when academics kind of tried to bring up some of the stuff on the podcast, you got very

irate and you were really kind of screaming at it. Because you're dumb. See, right there. You're like you're a dummy too. I got to call you a dummy. Okay. Because we're going to, I'm going to show you. But starting with the name calling makes you look more guilty. No, and I'm going to show you why. Oscar Delahoyer.

If you listen to the conversation, I clearly state this is what the attorneys worked out. See, the minute the attorneys are involved, right? This is not extortion. This is a business deal. Oscar then talked about it openly. on club Shee Shee. Right?

So the minute you get attorneys involved, see, if you have something, right, that's yours. It's yours. And you got the consent

to have it. And you're like, hey, hey, bro, check this out. This is really pertaining to you. Hey, attorney such and such,

as such, drop their paperwork, right? He never one time talks to Oscar Delaware, right? There's never conversation between the two. The minute you get attorneys involved in these type of situations, that's not an extortion.

Right? So we're going to Kanye next, right? Sure. This started on Bootleg cab, did it not? I don't remember. Bootleg cab said, what's up with these extra tapes I've been hearing about? I said, yeah, it's a couple

extra tapes. He's like, what you're going to do with them? I said we would never do anything with him but give him to Kanye. That's what we're saying, right? Okay. You could pull it up, right? So guess who calls me? The Kardashians. Kanye.

Oh, Kanye. What up, bro? Man, I seen boom, boom, boom. Yeah, is that real? Yeah. Well, how cut out you said, okay, cool, I'm going to put you with a little bro, you know. Yeah, tell him, send him to the airport. Bro, ran a drive, went to the airport, gave it to him.

Okay. What do you see? Where is the extortion? Maybe some of that stuff is above board, but I think that a lot of people are assuming that if you were doing all this type of stuff, then maybe you are also hitting up the food vendors outside of Crenshaw High like Big You. No, stop right there. What type of stuff have I done?

Everything I just laid out to you was either it was a business deal or it was a man keeping his word and just saying, here. But you realize most people don't monetize their life in such a way. I'm not saying that there's anything inherently illegal about it, but most people don't like obtain sex tapes and then profit off of not releasing them. Lawyers or otherwise. No, the profit came after the initial release. That shit been out since like 03. Which the sex tapes. 04. Well, the original one. Yeah. You're supposedly had more. Yeah, yeah. But again, and then Kanye went on the show. and delivered to drive. Has anything ever come out?

Not, yeah, but Kim Kay's an op now, right? She ain't my op. She ain't ever did nothing else. No, she's Kanye's op and you're Kanye's homie, right? Well, that has none that. That's his ex-wife, bro. That's mother of his kids. If you look at the bootleg cab show,

when he asked me about it. No, when you ask me about it, he said, bro, what y'all going on? Y'all can make sense. I said, we would never do that, bro. And at this time, I wasn't even, you know, I knew Yay, we talked to all the time. right? It wasn't no, like, that's my partner, partner at this time.

Right? I said, we'll just get, I mean, we'll just sit over there and the safe. Like, we ain't got no, that's it. He got kids by her. Like, on some real shit, we'd just give it to him. You wouldn't, absolutely not. Well, he asked me that on the show. Okay. So, yeah, he called my phone. That nigga called me. Right? Hey, boom, boom. I said, yeah, you said, I've seen it. That's real. I said, yeah, I said, how could I get it?

I said, I just had a little bro bring it to you because I don't want to have that discussion with him because that's his, you know what I said? That was his wife. So there was never a time where Big U said to you, hey, this weed shop, they owe me 20 grand. Can you go grab it? We never, I never did that type of business with him. I'm going to be real. I've never, ever seen him personally. I've never seen him take nothing from nobody.

Okay. I got a lot of people that's close friends in mine, that I may see once every six, seven months. Right. I don't run with nobody every day. No human being do I run with every day. You were doing your own business with it. I had my trucking business going on,

my music business going on, my real estate business going on. Y'all got to remember, we was trying to bring him into the fold to help him find a lane for him. Okay. You get what I'm saying? That's all that was.

We was positioned the table, different Cripps, Bloods, or Power Rules from different sections, right, that we feel could be a voice, a prominent voice on the West Coast who wanted to be part of the music industry, those of us that have certain plugs and connections, right? So you were trying to bring him more above board?

That was our only movement, right? And everybody would tell you, the dudes from Long Beach, if you pull up, bridge in the gap, that's whack bringing Kay Slay out here because we had lost all our radio out there. Me and Kay Slay built a bomb, but I didn't keep it to myself.

I brought him out here, took him to all the different neighborhoods, allowed the rappers to exchange numbers with Slay, and then they built with Slay. They did mixtapes and did shit, and boom, so vice versa. So when Slay needed things for Papoose at the time out here, it was just a phone call and we made it happen. So we was trying to rebuild the bridge that should get burned down. Because at this point in time, it was like they was over there,

and we was over here. It really wasn't nobody conversating. So we came up with this bridge and the gap thing. And that's how that started. But all the business, the real estate business, I did what we helped him with his own. The Nipsey Hustle business, gang spoke on that on Vlad. What else did we help him do?

When he started to build the Chris Shaw-Cote's organization, we get my artist to post the sign-ups. By this time, Scootie bikes was hot. So I was having Ray J. show up. on the flyer, Ray J's coming to give away a free scooty bike to the, whatever, whatever.

Everything we did with him was business. And I'm gonna be real. Anybody that know Big U, I'm gonna keep it 100 with you. Part of his problem I had with him about the music business is he, like I would tell him,

yo, such and such sign the artist. He's like, bro, I only want to sign people from my area. Right. Big U's a dude that's big on his area. And I'm gonna be real. was saying that, I think Big U only would do this type of shit with people from his area. If you look at the indictment, everybody is from his area.

Right. I don't think Big U trusts to go outside his bubble to do any type of criminal acts. Because that's why extortion has become so much less popular over the years is because people are more willing to go to the cops. The cops take it extremely seriously. So the real primary candidates to extort are people who are doing illegal business, like a sort of black market weed shop makes sense, a strip club, who knows what kind of stuff they got going on.

You can extort a drug dealer because they can't really go to the cops in the same way. You know, like people always kind of assume that like no jumper has been extorted, but nobody's going to come to us and try to extort us. Somebody asked me that last night. Because what am I going to do? I'm going to call the cops. And then quickly your whole operation is going to fall apart. First of all, let's be real.

Unlike a marijuana shop, there's no money on hand here. That too, yeah. Your money comes from. Cash helps. Yeah, daughter. Like, so there's not like, so when it comes to that, like, when I was reading it or Prince was reading it, you know what I mean? It was kind of like, see, because I know the time frame. And I know when I'm hearing, it was kind of like.

when I bagged up from him, right? He went back to his old roots. Because I'm going to be real. A lot of the people was against me bringing him to the table. Because they thought he was shady or... They were scared of him. They thought he was shady. Like, yo, whack, fuck dude, you know what I'm saying?

Like, a lot of my people was against it. And that's why you never hear his name tied to nobody else's name like it was mine. because they dealt with him when they had to. I was a dude that went and got to know his family. Trying to be a real friend. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I go to his crib. He got to my crib.

You know what I'm saying? Like I got to know his family and, you know, whatever I could do. I would show up certain funerals and things, you know what I'm saying? People I had met like Samman and people I didn't have been in a couple of funerals. I've been to his mom's house. You know what I'm saying? I met his pops. So it was kind of like we kind of had a brotherhood going on.

But once again at this time, eight out of ten conversations, when I got a call from him, was him calling me because somebody was on his phone pertaining to business. So what he did turn into, what we did help him turn into was a magnet. He was a magnet name. If you could get to him, you can get it done. Everybody couldn't get to me. I didn't talk.

If I wasn't dealing with you, I didn't talk to you. But if you could get to Big U, what the idea you got that something wackett helped with, Big U will call, hey, little bro, what up? Man, I got such a cell phone, they're trying to do this, that another. At that point, Big U job was done because he didn't know. He would never really take the time to understand how to do it. His whole perception is if I got the people around me to know how to do it, and I bring the people that want it, then I'm part of it anyway.

You get what I'm saying? And he knew with me, because I was generally trying to help him, I would never request anything from it. I would just get on the phone, what is it? And then whoever it needed, I make the calls and put it together, and then he'll run with it. It's a lot of things he did minus me, like his thing with the ballplayers. Now, that was what he built for sale.

What are you, just him Like the relationships were like Draymond Green Shit like now Shaq, that was us That was actually stutter box That was a stutter box and the whack thing Right I remember one time

I believe it was in Houston He had just come home And he was standing outside All Star Weekend or whatever And nobody would let him in Nobody knew what the fuck he was Right But box at the time was moving real strong

with Shaq boxing and pulled him in. That was Shaq's first interaction with him because Box was Shaq's right-hand man. Do you think Shaq left LA because of the game politics, aka Big You fucking with him? No, no, no, no, no. Shack was already gone.

Tom Big U. Come on, Shaq was already on Friken Star Island. Okay. He was already on Star Island. He was already back in Florida. He had the big crib in Orlando, and Shaq ain't never been ran out of nothing, man. Everybody loves Shaq. Like Shaq, that's family with everybody.

But that part of the indictment where they're basically talking about how a bunch of NBA players got scammed by another player. And then he makes them, like, handover $100,000 each to him and shit. Because I was doing a lot of business with Shaq at a time. He was wanting the first people to send over the 40-foot trailer, like with the toys and stuff, to give away for like Christmas.

Okay. So you got to understand, like, when a guy like Shaq looks up, yo, Shack brought snow to Watts. You know that? He had a snow machine or something? He brought the snow to the projects. He went over there,

and they were like, yo, we want to see the snow. So he somehow had him go up there to the mountains get a bunch of snow and bring it in and just put snow all through the projects. You could pay people to just pull up with like a machine that makes snow. No, he had them go up to like Big Bear's stuff.

And get the snow. So whatever you come to a lot of these guys and they see like, okay, you're doing something for the kids. And you can visually see he's giving this stuff away to the kids, right? They don't mind being a part of that. The dude that sprayground backpack, that's my guy. He gave you one, I believe, five years ago. A backpack? You was hanging with Big You late night somewhere. He gave you a backpack, a white one. a white back. You had a red hat.

He said you're the only white boy. You saw that? What a red hat. That was at the TI and Young Thug video shoot, which now, in retrospect, I'm thinking, hmm, what kind of arrangement was struck that would allow these guys to shoot this video here? We put him with TI. That was in Hollywood, too. But what I'm saying is, like, even that, that's a plug that come through us.

He's a Muslim brother. If you go back, I did an exclusive sprayground run with red sprayground back with game. We did the giveaway at all the shoe palaces. I'm surprised that big you didn't make me pay to wear that red hat. No, he was just bullshit. He don't care about no gangbanging. You know where that was, though? That was at that one studio where everybody makes jokes about it

because it was used in one of the Batman movies. It's got all like the panels with the lights on the ceiling. On the east side. Yeah, I know exactly. I filmed over there before. So you got to remember, like, I don't read what I'm reading. I've never seen him operating that capacity. Okay.

But that just goes back to the story. you hear, but who is he? Oh, he did boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. So it just looked to me like he went into survival mode and, you know, start. I know the dude, the dispensary owner. Oh, okay. I've done business with him.

Okay. Like, he would call, I think the last thing I did, I booked Sada Baby for him downtown. But he called me about October. He's like, bro, you know what? With you, bro, it was always straight, man, I give you the money. You make sure the people there and boom, boom, boom.

So, you know, when it comes to weed and all that type of stuff, I shy away from it. I really don't like to deal with it because it's not approved on the fair side. But a lot of stuff I'm reading. And some of it, I still really, I'm kind of like, is missing some pieces? I can't see him. I can't see Big You shooting a kid in the face

that once lives. lived in his house, right, over a diss song. Because there has to have been so many different times over the years, even since he's been free, in which he would have had much better reason to clap somebody than that situation. That just doesn't seem like it would have risen to the level of being. Let me tell you what. If he killed that kid, he probably should have killed like 20 other people.

No, listen, let me tell you what he would do. Okay. If the kid that did a diss song, right, and he heard it. At his age, he would have brought one of his little homies. Right. Over there to fading. Right. Okay.

How do I know this? Nipsey dissing. Right. What did he do? The song, the first song? He brought one of his homies over there to fade him, right? Or he would have did it, right? But if he's a little dude, he's just going to bring one of his little homies over there.

So this is why. That guy is not a threat. The kid, rest in peace, Ray Sean, he's not a threat to not require killing him. Why don't you just beat his ass? By all means, right. Because I've already disrespecting the family because I'm going to be real.

I don't know if you listen to the call. When I got the call from these people, right? Right. I'm thinking it's some troll muffins. I'm going to tell you why. First thing, whenever I ask you a question, I already know the answer. I don't even see what you're going to say.

Okay. So the first thing I say is, yo, when this happened in your brother? She says 2022, I know it was 2021 because I read the shit. Right.

So right then and there, my mind is like, okay, let me see where it goes. So then I'm like, oh, what you mean they had to get blood? Like, you know, they swab us before we get out of prison, right? So then she says,

they found it under the nails, right? So I'm thinking of myself, if they found some DNA under some nails and it's this dude ain't no way they let him run around for three, four years, right? So I let her keep talking.

So she says, my mom such and such, right? So she puts the mom on the phone. So when the mom comes on the phone, let me show you this, right? She goes into her thing. The mom immediately, says, oh, no, it's been four years.

Okay. This one I thought they was really cap. When she says, between me and you, the cops don't want nobody to know, but this, this, this, that another, right? So I'm telling myself,

the cops don't tell no motherfuck the body when they're going to pick somebody up. Right. Right. So then I get this text. Hey, this is Ray Sean Williams' mom, I didn't want to ask you this because I don't like asking people for anything, but I do need your help.

Me and my daughter have been homeless for the last past three months, sleeping in my car. So if it's possible, could you please help me at least get a hotel room for a couple of days? I really do need the help. So now you know what I'm thinking. It's a scam. It's a scam, right?

So at this point in time, I'm going to be real. I watch Big You on about three, four occasions, go side with some motherfuckers that's running the narrative on me that he knows ain't true. Right? And because it's his voice, it makes it seem like it might be some truth.

So I tell six on it, hey, bro, these motherfuckers is capping. They thought they was going to run a sob story on me and get some money out of me. The mother and sister don't even know what year. The boy died, which is odd. Anybody lose somebody that close? You know the time, date, the year, you know that shit.

Hell yeah. Right? And I said, as soon as in the mom is leave me to believe, I'm telling you something exclusive shit. Because the police, the police not going to tell you. I'm going to tell you why. You may want to do something to this dude. So if the police tell you, we're coming to get him this month.

That gives you your flight time to go kill this dude. It's a million reasons why me dealing with. With life, I'm like, man, ain't no motherfucking police for the... They gather all this information and they choose to let it out with one massive flood. Obviously, the Fed indictment of the roll in 60s, this is all shit that they had ascertained over the course of many, many years. They gather it all out. And then they drop it. But so I got a lady, the daughter or the sister, don't know the year the boy was killed.

I got a lady trolling, faking like she's like telling me some exclusive shit. So you know what I did? The same way Big U went over there with these dudes with this CS2 back shit What made it look real, Which in the long run is going to help me Because that's a great lawsuit. Like that shit's going to pay great, right?

You're going to sue Big You. No, no. I would never sue Big You. I sue LA Media World Star. Because Big You noticed, as in about 18 months ago, when I said I'm suing them behind them putting that up, You don't see Big U talking to World Star shit Because the World Star double back

And said, hey, where's the paperwork to support this? He's like, I don't got none. We was just, he's like, well, dude got a big ass law firm. They're coming at us. They're not playing. They demanding some serious money. This dude's a public figure.

So this lawsuit is still in the works? What? This is going to be great. Oh, shit. It's going to pay off like two of my cribs. We've got a harmonious man on our hands here. Right. So the same reason why Big U went over there. was some shit that he knows a lie.

Uh-huh. And ran the narrative. I thought about it. I said, fucking 600. They lied, talking about this, a football kid that used to play

for his organization. That ought to strike a nerve with some of them parents over there, right? It ought to piss him off, right? Let's run it up. Right?

Because at the time, I'm thinking that's cap. Okay. I'm thinking, come on, man, you don't know what year, boy was killed, this is your brother. You talking about the police

and told you some shit that I know police not gonna tell you. They're not gonna tell you for this reason right here. So in my head, there's no way. This shit is, and then you hit me up for the money right afterwards, right? So in my mind, it's cap. So we run murder.

I'm like, how could I like turning the content? Because of Charles, I'm concerned it's content. Right? I get a hundred calls a day, my motherfuck is telling me shit. You heard me listening to some of your office. That's just shit coming through random, right? About that. I don't know

if it's real or not. So, at this point in time, I'm like, all right, Tink runs murder mystery. I'm going to let her run a murder mystery read the new shit, and then we're just going to plug this into it. So here it comes. 600 starts to panic.

He says, bro, they like, think, I got it from the police. I'm like, just run the narrative, man. Tell her motherfuckers. Uh, shit. Don't look at it like that. Look at it like shit. Why are you looking at it like I'm running in there for the police?

It could be looked like that I'm looking out for the streets. It could be looked at all kind of ways, right? So now, 600. I ain't going to lie, he got a little nervous because they start coming at him with the, why are you running this shit. You get what I'm saying? This is why I don't know if you notice. I kind of been going overboard.

We're trying to like take something to heat off of him. Oh, 600. Yeah. Well, he seems like he's leaning into it. He's right around with a badge on. No, but that's what I do. told him. I said at this point, bro, the other shit ain't working.

So, fuck it. You know, that call, what the police saying come down to the station, that's not real. That's his homeboy that recorded something. And he's just playing it. But to the world, it's real. Right?

So, you know, at the end of the night, it shocked me when they called me that morning, talking about the feds and all this shit. I was like, And then when I read what I read, that shit, I don't know that big you. I can honestly say on some real shit. And I'm treading lightly because now that I know,

and the reason why I know the lady's real now, because somebody called me a day ago and said, she did a TMZ interview. So I know if Harvey's interviewing somebody, he didn't did his due diligence on who people are. So I don't know what the lady looks like, but whenever it comes out, we'll be able to see. This big you that I'm reading about on the indictment,

I don't know him. You haven't seen him strong-arming random people and whatnot? I used to see him break itself. What's that mean? He would spend his last on the kids. Okay. You know how much that dude used to charge him? the kids?

What? $100. For what? To play football. That's deep. That don't even cover 20% of what that costs. Right, that makes sense. So what he would do is he would call everybody he knew.

Hey, bro. Boom, boom. Like, I wrote checks for like, he'd be like, yo, nine you short, 18 shoulder pads and six helmets. How much that cost? $2,500. I write the check to Crenshaw, Cole. notes, nine you, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever, right? So the Big U, I know when to come to kids has always been like,

he was on a mission to get a count to how many kids like he could get going to college and shit like that, right? So if I had asked you a month ago, or a couple months ago, what percentage of money that is being donated to Big U and his charity is actually being spent on charitable stuff? I would have thought 100%. You would have thought 100% Wow, okay.

Because not outside of the football shit, right? Let me tell you what else he does. The kids, you got a kid. I've seen this because it's like a continuation school down there or something. I think it's a place where they got the Nipsey basketball court. I went down there before with them to talk to the kids. There's one kid, he's like, yo man, why you keep fighting?

We got you in the continue. Why he keep fighting? He's like, man, they'd be talking about my clothes and talking about my shoes. Right? And when we left, he said, man, I feel him because, you know, I always had big feet, so I couldn't really get all the different shoes everybody had. So I would see him go in his pocket because I remember one day we went to like Men's Land

in the Slosson, I mean, in the Fox Hills Mall. And we went in there and the shoes do, he said, what kind of shoes you want? And the shoes he wanted, they were like $600 out of shoes. So when we went in there, he told him like, hey, bro, these ain't, for me, can you work with me on the price because they're for a kid that are distressed kid. So I would see him go in his pocket and do that. I would also see him like go buy people's family groceries and shit.

Like if you would have asked me, like just one-on-one, like, when I'd have been like, nah, that type of shit, he really, he does. So you're saying, this shit right here, I'd have brought a bet everything on worth that none of that's going. you're saying you considered him a philanthropist and overall like a guy who was giving but also not a great businessman and definitely not a master criminal because when you look at so much of this stuff it's like if you want to embezzle funds from the government under the the guys of COVID relief or whatever I assume there's a way to do it that would not put such heat on you

Well, this is the thing. I met Big U in 2004. So this is the Big U that went to prison, really embraced Islam, and was he had already, from my understanding, created developing options from prison. Okay. You get what I'm saying?

His son that played for the Chargers, he was made in prison on a family visit. You get what I'm saying? So the Big U we met, he came trying to understand and figure out some business. Right. We didn't meet a Big U gang banging. Hmm. And I was one of the first riffs at the table.

He went on somebody platform. Breakfast Club, he went to somebody platform and said, if he would have been out, Defro couldn't operate. He said that on Vlad. I was just about to ask you about that. That was one of the, my phone lit up, whack. What's up with this? He said if he was free, there wouldn't have been no death row, which is kind of a wild statement because how would he, no matter how powerful he was, how would he have been able to stop Shug Knight, who operates on completely different politics from signing artists?

He did sign a bunch of crips and whatnot. No, you're not hearing me. Listen to me. I told you earlier, I got blowback from how close I was getting to him. First, he was even letting him come to the table of business, trying to. Because our whole movement was, can't nobody make no money with war going on. So if I got these artists, and I'm beefing with you, and every time we do a concert or a club or a video shoot,

y'all showing up shooting it up. And then when we hear you doing something with yours, we're doing the same. Ain't nobody benefiting from that. So like, okay, you got what artist, cool? So if it came, let's say Big Y'all's, You had T.I. Right.

But we put him with T.I. If a problem came up with somebody was like, hey, we want to book TI or A, we got an issue with TI. Instead of that individual approaching T.I, they'll just talk to him and then we'll let Big U go talk to TI and they find resolution. So this is why from like 08 to about 2018-19, you weren't hearing video shoes getting shot up.

Niggas getting robbed at the studio. you saw a increase of Cripping blood concerts through K-Day. That's where SKG come from. You know my man, AD, to where now we got crips and bloods on the roster. Backstage, we got a hundred gang members, niggas beefing, but it's all love

because everybody there is tied to somebody at the table. And everybody get their money, everybody stays safe. And so now people was running into people, and it was all love. So that's what we was doing. I tried to every meeting I had But my career I was doing business with a dude named

Johnny Yee out of South Korea I took Big U to the meet not because he was part of it because I wanted him to hear it so now you know if something pops up we have a resource over there He might be in New York and they're like Yeah big we try to do this in South Korea

Know what he gonna say? I can get it done He'll just call me on the phone with this dude And we work it out but this This what I'm reading what I just heard last night, I don't know that guy. Based on what I'm hearing from a lot of people, I haven't personally read through the indictment,

but everybody I know who has spent some time reading the indictment has basically texted me and said, Big U is fucked. They had like bugs and places, I guess, where they thought it was safe to talk at. Right. You know what I'm saying? People worry about their phone.

They don't worry about there being a bug in the room. It's a lot on there. It's a lot on there and it's a lot of people that gave statements or whatever, right? But, yeah, I don't, I've never, me and Vic, you never set out and said we're going to go extort this dude

or rob this dude. It was always a conversation on how can we fix a problem? This is going on. Hey, bro, don't you know such as such? Yeah, can you give them a call because such and such is called, said this is going on,

let's see if we can work it out. That's what we was doing. It was called the movement. was called Bridge in the Gap. And, you know, and I would give my plugs. We all shared our plugs. Like, I met Molly Maw through Big You. Mm-hmm.

Right? Because it was no different than, yo, Molly, this is my brother, Wack, Wack, this, Molly. Y'all share his numbers case y'all need each other. This is what Wack does. This is what Molly do. I got a platinum record out of Molly, right? K. Slay and a few other my people, Big U met directly with me

to where they didn't have to call me to talk to each other. because if we all moving as one, you know we're moving as one, right? So, but I'm not saying it didn't happen because that would be a disrespect to the family. I already did that because I thought they was trolling me with the initial call. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Because there's no way if I knew they was real, I would have did that. I just thought they was boy. I got a sister that don't know the year her brother was killed. I got a lady claiming to be the mama telling me the police told me they're going to do this.

And I'm like, lady ain't no police telling you when they're going to go. Because I know that's, it's putting dude in jeopardy. It's putting him in jeopardy. You know what I'm saying? But a sympathetic officer, detective, or whatever, could mention casually.

It's not practical though. It's not something I would consider normal. But, you know, if he felt for the parents, he maybe wanted to kind of tip them off on what was going on. Yeah, but see, this is the reason why they don't do that. Yeah. Because the parent could go tell somebody, tell somebody, and then it comes out. Or they may have a mindset, we want to kill this dude ourselves. Well, the feds were probably at least a little bit annoyed because the RICO seemed like it was maybe a little bit rushed.

Like they probably would have appreciated a little bit more time to get this together. But instead, it's all being talked about on podcasts and shit so much that they probably felt like they had a kind of rush. The thing, like, we didn't believe what they was talking about was real. Right. You telling me. Yeah, right, though. You and fucking 600 were you sat across from me and told me straight up that this was going to happen and then it happened.

And 600 was even earlier on making Instagram videos about it. We running our narrative off the record. We just press the plate. Same way he read his narrative on me. When he sat up there with all these other people, Stutterbox called me the other day. He said, wag, I feel. bad, even though we got our issue. The only problem where it was.

He said, even though we got our issue, the dude called me and asked me to do that. Because that ain't box don't do media. He said, bro, big you called and asked me to do that. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, yo, this fool was really, his fool was really like trying to run it. He was trying to run an narrative on me. So you got to remember right now, you got some people out there, Joe Button, probably being one of them, a few of these other little podcasters that they just said some

shit, right? And you probably can say some shit back, but it ain't strong enough, right? But the minute you get some bullshit, whether it sounds true or not, if you get a group of people and this is what they're pushing it, you're going to run with the narrative. Because 10% of the people, regardless, they can come out and not and say it's fake. They're still going believe it. 10% if not more, call me CS2 back every day. Hold on. Let's be real. Am I right? People are still wrong with that. So he ran his play. So when I'm running my play, I'm really,

I'm really trying to antagonizing with his signups. I know football season is covered up. Wanting to fuck with the football players. Bro, once you're firing scuds at each other, bro, it ain't about if it's real or not. It was right or wrong or not. It just about is the shit going to be effective. This is social media, bro.

Come on. We sit up here with people to where they be telling their stories and we look at each other like this motherfuckling like a motherfucker. But we still ask them questions about their lie that we think, you know why? Because it's interesting to the viewers. But the only problem is, is that when you and Luce are sitting here telling me that Big U's about to have this murder put on him, this is coming after the initial allegation that Big U had advanced knowledge that Nipsey was going to get killed.

And then even beyond that, Luce sat right here and told me that. Basically, that Eric Holder was about to make a statement. He basically had seen that that Eric Holder was going to tell on Big U. Listen. And that Eric Holder was going to get out the next day. That's insane. No, but hold on. Now, when he says this type of shit, right?

Right. Because they got that, the thing where Big U is watching the live and it says justice for Nip and he starts laughing. That was damning. Right. Right. when Black Sam did his interview. Now I'm going to show you how calculated this is. When Black Sam did his interview and kind of like authenticated the DJ callate shit, right?

That's when loose cannon comes with what? Eric Holder's about to tell on Big You. I think he said that before the Big Sam interview, right? No, that nigga said that shit because he's running his narrative. See, it'd be a lot of shit being said that y'all don't know. So let me tell you what Luce Cannon's nemesis was with Big You. You know who it was? He, Luce Cannon's mind says any and everything Alex Alonzo does, anybody gets on

his platform to speak against Luce Cannon comes through Big U. Okay. So when he see Alex interview this person or this person speaking on him and his mind, that's Big U's work. So you think Alex is a Big U agent? No, this is what Luce Cannon thinks. He thinks that. I think Alex, it's with Big You and the Big You sends him something cool.

Has Big U sent him something? Yes, but I think Alex is totally capable of doing what you do. You look, you do your research. But Luce hates Alex that much because he interviewed his ex-girlfriend, his ex-wife and everything. Bro, listen to what I'm trying to tell you. And Luce can in his mind, everything Alex Alonzo has done against him, even his brother being up there was a big U set up. He did interview his twin brother, huh? You get what I'm telling you?

Did you know he was 42? I mean, I never asked my old he was. I always heard that I didn't give what how old he was. He could be 32, 42. He could be ever old he wanted to be. What business of his mind? Yeah, twin brother explains if he and Lewis Cannon grew up in Los Angeles. I've never even thought about watching this, but okay.

So this one right here? Yeah. I might have it on my phone because I think he sent me to recording. His twin brother called. He was locked up. Wow, he does look a lot like him. That's crazy. Yeah, he was locked up.

and he was like, yo, I know Big U set that up, but like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, right? And why did you say this and why did you say that, right? Because he like, don't nobody know you to be pulling you up. So, 600, he hates Big U. Loose for like everything Alex did was, he felt like Big U was like, Alex, do this. I'm going to see you this.

Me, you didn't ran two, three Nairders on me. So I'm going to be real, bro. when we're playing on social media, bro, somebody called me and is willing to say it and sit in the box with it. I'm running it on you. I'm sorry.

I'm going to let you go out there and explain yourself. I don't get, because they do it to me all day long. I can't sit back. What I'm going to do? Sit back and take three months to go investigate stuff.

Hey, whack, what up? I know this. I know that. Is that right? What else you know? Is that right? You willing to say that? can I record you or you're going to cut in my platform? Yeah, let's go. Right? And I'm going to run it and I'm going to sit back and I'm going to see if you're going to react.

I'm going to see if you're going to, because that's our satisfaction. That's anybody's satisfaction. This is why something of the shit, Adam, what we do? We want, we act like with him here because we know that's the satisfaction for the op. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I don't want to diss. I'm saying reading what I read. I don't just the disc song thing is not adding up some people think this is our boy but some people have been hitting me up and they think that Vlad has been compromised by Big You now the evidence to suggest that

what you mean Vlad seemed very uncomfortable at times during our interview when we had the massive last episode with all five of us or six of us or whatever Vlad would not say anything bad about Big You. He was kind of using the like rinky dink pro Big You arguments of being like, well, every time I was around him, he was a nice guy or whatever, which obviously doesn't really mean much. He made it clear to me that every time you've ever gone off on Big You on Vlad TV, he edited it out. No, I'm going to be real. I'm going to be real. I'm going to be real with you. Should have spared myself some issues if I had done that. No, I'm going to be real with you. Because I know, I think Blad just got a lot of respect for him. I don't know.

Yeah, they have a good relationship. I don't know where they make. I don't think he's being extorted or anything. It's just kind of a fun narrative. And because I know this and because I got respect for Vlad, I tend to try not to go at Big You on his plan. I always have been saying, this is going to be regarding to your little friend so it don't need to talk about it.

Uh-huh. Right? Because I know, right? That's like, you know, but is he being, no, I just, I think he's going to start looking crazy if the craziness goes on. And he still won't have a real conversation. Yeah, he don't have real conversation because Vlad

has real conversations about everybody. Because in the same Vlad interview that I did, it's like three hours long, but we're talking about Dirk and we're talking about Big You. The accusations about both of them are very similar. And he's being so honest and open and transparent about how he feels about the Dirk thing. And then meanwhile with Big You, it's like, man, Big You always been such a good guy.

Maybe, listen, I'm going to be real. I really have to. I like really put my money on it. And it's just me, the flag my guy. I think maybe Big U might have did him a solid. Maybe something was going on. Big U helped him fix.

You know what I'm saying? Maybe he helped him like get out of a situation or maybe some bullshit. Far as Vlad, like, Vlad ain't paying. He ain't doing that with nobody. It's possible that there was some sort of favor exchange. but I think that Vlad in general just really appreciated the fact that Big U did his first interview with him. He always showed him respect.

They had a real cool relationship, which is the opposite of Dirk where they had a cool relationship. And then Dirk basically blew off their friendship and has dissed him in a bunch of songs. So Vlad does have every reason to go hard on Dirk and to go soft on Big U. But at a certain point, it's kind of like, well, you know, Vlad loves to re-up clips. He re-ups like a clip a day or whatever from old interviews. we have not seen any big U clips getting re-ups, which is far different than how he treats most people. You know, because of the respect I got for Vlad,

I'd never even ask him. And I try to stay off of Big U remarks when I'm on Black. Because I know, like, I know that's his guy, right? Well, it has been suggested by a lot of people that you're basically a completely different person of, you're super respectful, choir boy, and then on here you're just a madman.

Okay, well, you got to remember. Vlad is a different setup, right? Vlad's setup is, and they don't know, they don't see what we see on black. He already knows what he wants this to be about. True. On here, we got a setup,

but sometimes you will start with that and because something in that spins off the something else, then the conversations go somewhere else. We've been going for an hour, we haven't even looked at the topic. This is what I'm saying. So this is more of a, this is more of a freestyle

on what we do, right? And that's just because we can do it. It's fun. It's unpredictable. It's loose. No canon. Yeah, so, you know, I'm like, look, my apologies to the family. I'm going to be real. I didn't think you was real family.

I just pointed out why I didn't think you was real family. And to this day, I only believe you're now the real family. If you are the people that just interview with TMZ, because I know how are we going to do is due diligence. If you're those people that I was on here, then my apologies. If you not, then fuck you. My favorite current new narrative is basically take like me and big deal. When me and big deal do content together, what am I really doing?

I'm paying him to do an interview so that he will essentially smear T-Rell. That's how I was doing battle at that time. You know what he's going to do. A lot of people have suggested that the evil genius mind of WAC 100 said, here's loose cannon he's not necessarily with it enough to realize the play that I'm going to do but I'm going to befriend this guy

who used to be super close to Big You I'm going to take loose cannon I'm going to elevate him I'm going to bring him on to podcast like no jumper and then I'm going to basically allow him to say things that will be bad for Big You whether criminally whether how he's viewed

in the streets etc. I do believe that you're capable of that sort of espioners. Okay so there's a little truth in that and there's a lot of bullshit in that. Okay. Okay, so. And intent is different than how it actually played out.

So, of course, loose cannon's approach was F*** fucking big you. Right? What up? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Man, f*** a nigga Big you. Nick, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Is that right? That's what's going on. All right. So I sit back. I watch him. So he called. He's like, hey, bro. And I'm going to make you remember this.

I got a TV. show coming out. Can you help me promote it? Right? Now if you think about it after I brought him up here, I personally send him to academics. Act said it. You didn't hear what Act said it? He said you line me up. He said you lined me up and said you was coming with him. Nobody even has to tell me. As soon as I saw loose on academics, I thought, oh, that's a whack play. That's a whack. But I told Act, I'm coming. Yeah. Right? I said loose. And then you didn't. Yeah, right? Okay. So I told now, I think this is what he broke the Meek Mill. I don't know.

I'm thinking he going up here to talk about the show. And I believe he talked about the show, but they just spun into some other shit. I mean, Ack's going to figure out what the good shit is. And I think when he told me about allegedly extorting Rick Ross and Meek Mill in the club and everything, I was more just like blown away, just confused. You didn't believe that shit, did you? No, at that time, no, not at all. Act really seized upon that and went into way more detail about it

and kind of went with it. He was beefing with Meek. Yeah. Act and Meek was at it. So this how I knew it was Cap right? Sheek Millie called him. Listen, so it's a dude over there no matter what has ever happened with me or meek, whatever. It's a dude over there I always love and respect.

A chaser? No, his name is Teefei Bay. Yeah, yeah, he's chaser. He's a chaser. Teefei bank. Peefei Bay been home maybe about six, eight months or whatever. Even when the bullshit going on, when I landed in Philly, Tee-Bee-Bee see me

He'd come over there and breaks me as a brother Before he should go But me and him We got our brotherhood, right? T-P. Bay with me Listen, this is a fact Tell me

You robbed Meek And shot Tee-Pee-Bee 20 times and he's dead And I might believe it Because you got to kill Tifi You're saying Tifi ain't laying down T-Pee-y ain't laying down for nobody He ain't laying down for nobody, right?

So now on top of that is 10, 15 other Philly dudes with him. Right? This is what I believe. I believe Luce might have been at the club. Because just how he knew who was in the club, right? Or somebody told him who was in the club. So what Luce would do, he'll take some shit he may have saw. Some stories people may have told him.

And then he'll insert himself. And then he'll tell the story. But if you hear the true story, you always catch two or three things that's like, no, he said it was that, but it was really that. Come on, bro, you really think, do you really, and look, I don't really fuck with me like that, right? Meek is not taking his jury off and his security is not stepping away. Right. To hand it to a dude. That was hard to believe, yeah.

Right? let me explain to you why big you wouldn't allow that to happen. One reason, they're all Muslim. See, when you're talking to me about certain shit, I understand the overall politics. They're all Muslim. And they're from Philly. It's real brothers.

You've talked to one when Nick was here on the phone when I called him that are our go-to. for our big business that are real Muslim who no Muslim could allow that to happen to a Muslim they're serious about that TV all them dudes is I don't know if meek is or not

but it don't matter with mekees those other brothers are with meek so Big You is not going to send his homies at the Muslims he's a Muslim it's not going to happen I assume and I assume a lot of people out there

assuming that there's some sizable portion of people saying that they're Muslim who absolutely do not have a problem with extorting or robbing some other Muslims. Listen, I don't know the Muslims. There's got to be a lot of that. I'm telling you the Muslims I know, and it's a lot of Muslims watching this, and I'm pretty sure you'll see in the comments, they're not going to allow or call a shot and send non-Muslims to harm a Muslim. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's It's not going to happen, bro. Okay. Straight up.

You know, they got this thing. You know, I don't know to what limit. But let's say if you snitched or you did whatever and you go to jail, you become Muslim. Yeah. You cleanse all that. From that day forward. And see, that's why people think that people are being opportunistic when they become Muslim in prison. I don't know.

The Muslims, I know that that's their faith and they're serious about it and they live about it. But there's no other way that you can. Get Out of Jail free card. I'm being labeled a snitch. So let's get back to it. So from February to May, my job was to pump his reality show. Okay.

Right. And I was pumping it as hard as I was pumping it because at that time, the owners was telling me what, if you can make this perform, we're going to give you a contract for two, three of your own shows. right i got all that on my phone right i feel like

Aaron the plumber kind of like became what you were trying to turn loose cannon into and i also think Aaron the plumber borrowed some of the four extra persona no hold on no he watched it basically like these guys are all playing a similar character of like look how tough i am i'll fade anybody and i'm entertaining on camera and guess what else he does he calls a person he don't know 38 times and start texting me crazy shit and i bit I'm like, bro, who the fight? Because I don't, Adam, you know a lot of shit you would say to me.

I don't be knowing what you're talking about. You got to show me like these new sensation people popping up. I'm not down there seeing them as they sprouting up. By the time I hear about them, they've been around nine months or something, right? No. So, and I'm going to keep it real. I did a great job because I started working on Luce February. By about summertime, I had Luce on fire.

He was on fire. You never know me to go to these little-ass podcasts. I did that for him. I didn't do that for me. If that was the case, I would have been going to him. No jumper, bootleg calf. Hey, their world. Right?

No, no. I'm going to do those. You know, bootleg my boot. I got him his job at the radio station back when they first opened. I'm just saying that you went on a variety of podcasts. I went on a variety of a bunch of little. bitty shits, that's because what they'll do,

they're called loose and like, yo man, we want to holly whack or whatever, woo-da-woot-woo-do-woot-do-wo. He's like, yeah, I could get whack to come with me. Right? Loose would call me. I'd be like, who's your people? He's like, uh, could be a good look for me. So I would go. Because at this time, I'm like,

I am pumping him. So I would go and then, and it worked. You know what I'm saying? But a lot of shit he was talking about, I'm not going to sit there at the time. talking about it and on camera, and it's supposed to be by guy and say, you're a motherfuckin' lie. You get what I'm saying?

I'm not going to do it because then it takes away from the persona that we all see is working for him. You get what I'm saying? I'm not going to challenge a dude that I'm pushing in front of the world. I'm just going to lay back. I'll be like, you know, nine out of ten times you say whack, ain't right there right. But like, yep, I don't know. I wasn't even around you back then to know.

What the fuck was up? But I'm a rock with you. You know what I mean? So in hindsight, I'm going to tell you this. What this situation that's taught me is just a very thin line on what people perceive as real, as bullshit, that they will still tell you it's real. We knew that even if we throw a fake narrative out there, fuck it.

I told six, we're going to push it out there. They're going to give a fuck. They lie. Ain't no police told him. This lady don't even know where you're a brother. It's alleged brother got killed. She kept.

It's going to piss him off. The same way he irritated me with the shit he did. You know what I'm saying? When I start getting calls from people like, yo, whack, my bad, bro. The nigga asked me to do it. I think people are super hyper aware

of the fact that a ton of stuff online is fake. So then as soon as the federal indictment comes down and their mind, they're like, ah, here's something that is one. 100% not fake. Let's get into this. That will capture some people. Like, listen, how often do we see that?

Yeah, almost never, yeah. You get what I'm saying? Well, in hip-hop kind of a lot over the past couple years. I mean, no, but not coming up like, like, bro, listen, I'm going to be real. I have a zillion prison stories. Right. A zillion jail stories. But as soon as you have one video, we're viral.

A zillion stories from shit that has happened in the streets. you don't hear me, the closest you're going to hear me say is, I saw such and such, such, get kicked in the ass. Shug's slap such and such, I saw it. Right?

And then that's it. We're going to get that individual, but I'm not going to sit in and talk about, unless I've done the time for it, or it's already, they didn't get the time as public record. Niggins ain't going to talk about some shit that don't nobody know about it.

So when Luce Cannon is sitting next to you, going into great detail about robbing weed shops with Big You and Big You not properly splitting up the proceeds afterwards and scamming people and all this kind of stuff. Is there any part of you that in your head was like, this was only a couple years ago you could easily still get in trouble for this? Because honestly, that did not cross my mind. I'm going to tell you why. He told a story, bro.

I just want you to walk with me. Whenever you tell Superman stories with me, because being up on the streets, even if you pull up on your ops, we always talk about, Oh, we shot two of you diggins. We don't never talk about three of all guys shot two. Right? We don't talk about that, right? So when I hear him say,

we went in the spot and took everything, and then 30 minutes later, the dude from the spot is walking in the house. Hey, bro, don't know anything about that shit sound real. Like, come on, bro. What the fuck are we talking about? Mother fucking comes to no jumper. and rob you.

Right. 30 minutes later, you're walking through the house of the people that robs you. So at this point in time, I'm a rock and roll with him. Oh, yeah? And what else happened?

Oh, man, he told him to give him this. I'm like, oh, so now the troll is on. I'm going to paint the narrative. Right. Oh, you know why he told him he beat all y'all? He took half of that and still made y'all to cut up with that. Right?

So I'm just going to pump it. I'm going to troll it and wrong with it. But bro, nobody believes that a motherfucker just wouldn't rob somebody. And then the person that y'all robbed comes to the safe house where you guys are counting up, which you just took from him. Yeah. Strange. Nobody brings the victim back to the spot where he could call the police or some other dudes.

Hey, bro, the dudes that robbed me is over here. They just brought me to the spot. You rob them and then say, pull up over here. Who calls the victim of who you robbed and tells them to come to where you at? Right. So when you're telling these stories, I'm in my mind, I'm like, this thing is crazy. But are you thinking like this is kind of fucking my credibility up if he's lying about all this stuff? No, because it's him.

Right. The only thing I did tell him, I said, hey, bro, this, um, This FaceTime shit, I told them this, if you don't have it, you better put in some work doing some other shit to try to get people's mind. Because remember, he told us February 14th, two weeks. Two weeks come, I'm like, bro, where's that? Say you got it? Where's that? But you're saying the reality show is holding on to it now.

Well, no, that's what he's saying. Yeah. He's saying this is what he started telling me. The reality show has the drive, right? He's telling me the reality show has the drive. I'm like, bro, you got that. You neednese to know let Adam, because Adam getting ceases to sisters.

Dickies is looking crazy, bro. You're like, I don't know what that is. So he's like, they got to drive. So first it went, they was going to give it up in May. Then it went to, they're not going to give it up until February. So without me saying too much, a whole lot of shit started happening in February, March, because it was a whole lot of questions being asked by certain shit.

Right? So I told him, I said, bro, if you ain't got that shit, you might have went too far with that because I don't know how you go make up for that one. You said it, and people didn't wait it two weeks, and it wasn't here, then a month, then two months, and now we're into the next year, right?

But again, if he has it, I don't know. I don't know if he's on the drive. I don't know. Well, you know who apparently is suspicious of this are the feds. Because as discussed, they showed up in my house and they wanted a copy of the cease and desist. Now, before we even talk about that, you went on no jumper news and spread a narrative that I had been arrested, which it's all fun and game. until my wife gets a text from her OBGYN, saying, thank God, Adam isn't arrested.

Now, stop. I didn't even know this chick knew who I was. So this is what happens, right? I call you. Okay. Right? I said, yo, bro, what the hell are you talking about? The fair is really coming your spot?

You tell me this story. I said, what they want? You said, I ain't telling you because you're going to go to clubhouse and say it. I said, bro, you know I wouldn't do you like that. So you told me, right? You said, I'm going four o'clock news. I said, with Reamon. Matt. He said they're on right now.

So I call, this is our whack thinking. I call the news. And we did end up having the most live viewers that we've ever had. At least in part because of that. Okay. Now before you get there, this is how wax's thinking. This is the business whack. I call the news, right?

I go on clubhouse, make the announcement, Adam and Jill, sending my attorney down there with him to get it. Right. That goes out. I call the news. Hey, look, bro. Now the only one Almighty then was rolling with it Because you're noticing he said

Why 2.30? Why not 2 o'clock? I said, look, they got out of him and jay. So you talk to him? I said, yeah, Remo's texting me. Yo, whack, you know. I said, bro, I already know, motherfucker. Just roll with the plate.

Remo is compromised. Yeah, this roll with the plate, right? DJ Remo Demmix. I said, look, my attorney assured me by 2.30. He going to be out. Why did I say 2.30? I said it gave me much time to get from down. how to get here.

Right? And at four o'clock. Stop it, Burger King. He's going live. I'm saying it because everybody that's listening to the fucking no jumper live, for sure, they're coming back. I didn't set it on Clubhouse. I didn't set it everywhere.

He's going live. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. But watch, what did I just say? When we say something, even today people are asking, oh, you see the feds picked out of him up and booked up, I'm like, you dummy, it was never picked up a book. But because we say it, it's like, it's that thin line to where they're calling it real. Not only are the fans calling it real.

The law is starting to call our shit real. So it's kind of like we got to watch what we trolling with, bro. And we look like we are either agents ourselves or we are such Teflon Dons that somehow we've been able to dance in the water and not get wet. We are surrounded by criminality, perhaps involved, but somehow we have not been picked up. You can't tell people you didn't go down there and tell on Brick, baby. This is what they think. The comment section on that big pod that we did with academics and shit is like 100% of the comments are like, y'all are feds. Look at the CIA meeting up, bra, bra, bra, blah, blah.

Like everybody is stuck on exactly one joke. Nobody seems concerned with the fact that this is incredibly played out. There's no evidence for it. Everybody thinks that they're fucking Kevin Hart out here making the same stupid-ass-ass-ass-a-lake-bun also. And listen, let me give it to you, right? I'm going to keep it real. Sure. Because I ran my narrative.

Brick Baby, when I sit back and I say, how could I shoot back at Brick Baby? Get him picked up by the feds. No. No. Brick would sit up here and say, Wack ain't no blood. Wack ain't from here. he would run his narrative, right? So guess what?

My home boy fucking your wife. So that was made up? No, that wasn't made up. No, that wasn't made up. Ain't nobody hitting Kirsten. Listen, that wasn't made up. Just the break. No, that wasn't made up.

To a certain extent, I do have a homeboy fucking his girl. It's just not that girl. Right? Listen. No, but look, bro, I'm just being real, like, bro, Like, because these people, like, people are trying to make us like, we're not the pastors. The pastors make up shit more than anybody, and y'all don't say nothing to them.

But you run the risk of your credibility being permanently towards. Remember when you were saying that Blueface, Axe Girl? Well, no. Okay. Watch this. By the way, we need to mention that, that we were in the presence of the one and only Shay Glizzy. I know she was. And we did not discuss any of the weird stuff that has gone on in the past.

I didn't know the fuck she was, right? Okay, yeah. I forgot I met her in Miami. Ah, okay. She was like, whack, you don't remember you? I'm like, who are you? She's like, Shea Glyssie, right? And I'm like, I met you in Miami when you came by the-

You're thinking it was Aunt Gleazy's sister or something. I didn't know what the lady was. I told her straight up. I said, look, Shay, I don't know who the fuck you were. She said, Act told me that. She said, but can you tell me the truth? Is he really fucking parents? of Hiltran.

Paris Hiltry from Atlanta. I said that's my little home girl from Clubhouse. All I was doing was putting some cloud order name, right? So I had Paris call in there. I'm like, yo, hey, won't you go ahead on and talk to my artists? So Paris goes in, right? Lo, listen, I'm going to be real. Bump they say what they want.

They're not entertained about us talking about the birds and the bees and how long it takes for the flowers to grow. These people are entertained about, want to hear some bullshit. The flow of traffic nobody pays attention to. It's a head-on collision that stops both sides of the freeway. This is just what's real. Pretty good metaphor, yeah. So at the end of the day, Brick runs narratives on me. Big U runs narratives on me. That's totally false. So when I run mine, it's a problem. Nah, bro. No, we're going to. We got to talk about this. We're going to run it up. We got long live, Shaguzi. We got to talk

about this. Big you caught another charge when the official charges dropped because of the video that he filmed in which he tried to implicate you and loose cannon. And 600. And 600. That watched this. Very interesting. I don't, I don't know how that happened or what that's about. But Big U right there was running his last narrative on me. The final narrative. Okay. Let's talk about it. When he starts a podcast from jail like straight night, he says, Wack 100 said he was going to take his contracts from me. He started working with the fans.

The feds went to the government officials and the celebrities and told him don't give me no more money. Now let me ask you something. He says, and one of you motherfuckers from rolling 60s, if y'all get the contract, I know you working with WAC and I know you are up. Have I not been against the grid program day one?

You've had a lot to say about it, yeah. So why would I go over there and set somebody up in the grid program? But the world, 600, and I don't know. I'm like, bro, you're looking crazy, but he's running this narrative. This is the drowning man trying to pull everybody down with them. 600 was with the feds when they raided my house. Who put the video up? 600 did.

What happens if you are a dude, a video. Big U's statue and you live in the hood and your house getting raided by the feds. What does the hood do? They're hitting in the other house. They're in there right now. I was kind of surprised that his house wasn't, I mean, I don't want to take shots, but I was kind of picturing him living in a little bit nicer about house. I know his house.

You've seen that house. That's the same house. He's in the backyard playing pin-pong with Shug. That's the same house where he had. That's the same house where he had 600 in the backyard when they had their little. back and forth. It's the same house, right? Oh, okay.

So when, when, uh, 600 calls me about 7.15, he's like, yo, bro. They say, the feds hit big you house. I said, bro,

don't jump out the window with that shit because it's 12 o'clock, a nigga be laughing at you. See, you better go over there and see. He said, I'm going to drive by there and see.

I'm thinking this, I'm thinking in my head is some bullshit. 7.30. loose cannon text me. I said 600 on his way by there to see. That's when he sent the video. That's what I knew it was real.

When he first told me, we didn't heard this 10 times before. They hit his house. You don't remember the one time 600 put it out. Big you hung itself. He put out, Big you hung itself, right? And I'm like six. I'm like six, what you doing, bro?

All it takes for him to go live. and you're looking crazy. Somebody really told him that. And he's like, I don't give a fuck. I got him recorded saying it, so I'll just put that up. If it's a troll, it's a troll. But I'm seeing now that, like, dealing with this shit is like, the things we hear that we think ain't the truth just might be the truth.

Right. So if you start trolling it and, you know, trolling ain't, we can troll in a way well, we're totally serious. Serious, our demeanor, our conversation, how we're looking. Like, we're really feeding into it. But we're bullshit in the whole time. But to the people, they don't think that. And then you look up and you be like, wait, what you mean?

Yo, Wack, you know that. I mean, that was some bullshit. Nah, look, it just came out. Is there anything that has happened from this RICO coming out and everything? Is there anything that has made you think twice about anything that you do in your life? Of like, oh, I need to be a little bit more careful in this regard. I know you're not like actually out here breaking the law all the time, but it does stand out that like there's a lot of like relatively normal stuff kind of wrapped up in this.

The only thing is, um, Adam, you know how much bullshit motherfuckers call us with. Sure. Right. Now it's kind of like we would get a call by some bullshit at 1 o'clock at 103. We're up with it. You can't do that no more. You really got to like go investigate

if these people are who they say they are. What this person is talking about is real. Because if you go troll with it, like I, bro, I've seen shit that other podcasters or on people, bloggers are talking about that I started the narrative. I'm like, I can't believe this shit didn't got that far.

For instance, you cannot tell these people you and Aarmbia Lennon wasn't back there having sex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They really think that Remo called me and I was at home crying.

These dummies didn't put it together that I'm in a no jumper building. Like, how can't you not? Somebody said one person, I hear the water running behind you. Let me tell you what else. And I left it in there. Before you can,

came into the room when I said, all right, Arm, we sit over there, Lenna go over there to the cabin and get some shit y'all got over there. Lina looks at me and says, Wack, why are you holding the camera like that? She clearly telling the world, Wax's right here, but they totally tune that out.

Your woman's fucking Adam and his wife. It's all about making great content, and if you make good enough content, then nobody will care about the real one. Because you know what clip is back from the dead? the clip where I ask X-4 about the video of him shooting some people or whatever, and he just stays completely silent, that clip is back with a vengeance,

doing millions and millions of views all over the internet, like, this is how a real gangster is supposed to respond when they're on no jumper or whatever. I have talked about the fact that me and X-4, did I say four extras before, me and X-4 talked about that beforehand and basically like, because they're taking it like you asked them that. Well, they're taking it as if it wasn't something that he had. and I had already discussed before. And I've talked about it so much.

And nobody goes off because it fits the narrative. It fits the narrative. They're taking it like, Adam, you're the police. Why would you ask him that? Because, dummy, I told X-Ford, hey, somewhere in here, I'm going to ask you this, that you just mute up and look at me as crazy as you can. Yeah, I'm not mad about it because all it says to me is like, oh, like, look what I'm capable of.

Look what we can do when we script some shit, you know? But the people believe it. shit. Yeah, I love it. Yeah. It's crazy. Like, let's think about it, right? Think about it.

Oh, some real shit. Our thing is to troll Big U. Right. I never, like... Let's not say R. That was really... No, our thing.

The exposures. Okay. Yeah, right. The exposures. What's the troll Big U, right? Got it. We're not thinking about how he's going to fill the body.

We don't give a fuck because he doesn't care. Big U went on there, bro. 600 being a cop started because Big U said it. This is where they beef started. 600 went on some shit and said if 600 got his gun license, he a cop because he got a felony. What Big U was totally wrong about.

You could still get it even as a felon? No, he had a felony. Oh, okay, okay. Right? He was totally wrong about it. So from that, 600 like, man, people really believe it. I said, bro, you can't get mad about it. You get mad about it.

He wins, right? You get the going on there mad and you poutting and complaining he wins. Troll with it. All I told him was to troll with it. So what does he do? He gets his white partner, gives him a script, records it,

plays it while he's driving. He's right there. He walks in the fucking city hall building. You never see a cop in another video. But they hear a white voice, tell him to come pick up. He got a little fucking thing he bought from Walmart. You know,

you go to Walmart and buy anything. Four p.f chains. You go, buy all kind of shit. At Walmart? Yeah, Walmart. They sell on. You're talking about online.

No, you go to Walmart and they got all kind of shit, bro. He goes by a police trigger with a fake diamond in it and as if the police is giving it to him. I said, bro, embrace the troll. Only way to beat him matter, just embrace it. You can start. Roll with it. If you don't care.

And to this day, I get people right now, you're a whack. So you don't think he's going too far. Let motherfuckers know that he worked with. the police. Dude, he don't work with the police. I know the dude that left the voice record for him. Right.

Just like you did that with X-4, okay, X-4, a lot of these dumb, I ain't gonna call him dummies. People don't know X-4 was trolling four extras on the Cam Capone. They think that he was really saying,

they got squabble 20 of them. I don't need no break. No, bring you, you. He was mimicking four extras. But to him, they're like, Oh, this little dude was doing that, right? And everybody's watching and talking about it.

X-4, no shots. Kind of hard to imagine you're doing 20 back-to-back. Four extra, also hard to imagine, but with him, I'm so, I don't know, 20, maybe six, seven, I don't know, but 20, that's a little hard to believe. The gift that X-4 has, he can do that shit with a straight face. Yeah, he's good. I was sitting there, I'm like, he's going to crack any minute. He's going to crack any minute.

I'm thinking he's going to crack a smile. He's got, dude got this straight face look down packed. His girl is never going to be able to get it out of him. Right. No. He ain't, you're not going to bear to catch him.

He's like, and I'm watching him like, yo, this fool seems so real. Listen, I hear the troll because he's simply mimicking the things that four extras have said. Yeah. And him being such a little dude, right,

I don't even think Cam Capone got it. No, he didn't. But that's what I'm saying. Now it's like, they like, yo, I'm like, yo, bro, we trolling like, yo, like we trolling, bro. Like, when we start trolling, we're going to build on the troll. The object is to make the troll believable.

Right. That's what we're trying to do. But now it's getting to a point to where maybe we didn't got so good at it. Or these people are so absent-minded to where we got a, we got to control the trolling, bro. That's what I got. I'm like, bro, we got to control the trolling because when this family called me, I didn't believe nothing they said because you got the deaf year wrong.

You telling me it's our little secret. The police did told us, but ain't no motherfuck of the police go tell you when they're going to go arrest. No fucking body for no fucking murder. Get the fuck out of it. And then you text me, asking me for money and shit like this right after. I like, bro, we're going to take this clip and we're going to troll it. Loose cat it was against it day one. He's like, now, whack, that's too much trolling.

I'd be like, man, fuck this dude. I mean, he ultimately kind of took offense to the idea of you guys erring out all this stuff about Big You, which to me is logically incoherent because he was the same person who was out here spreading the idea that, you know, Big You was basically responsible for Nipzig's death. But that is what led to you guys falling out. And it is so strange to imagine what it would be like if you and Luce Cannon were still cool right now because you did fall out like four days before he was arrested. No, he fell out.

He fell out. And you feel like he showed his true colors? He fell out. Well, I know why he did what he did. He wanted to make a run for it. No. Get up out from under the- Totally different.

I know why he did what he did. I know why he did some backstory to that, right? But what's funny is I knew he was going to do that. Like, I told my girl, okay, this is supposed to be this is not going to be that he's going to find a reason to do something what I don't know right

because remember what did you remember what Flocko told him when he called in where did Wack go at you go at you at if Wack 100 would it win at Luce Cannon that shit would have been everywhere if you had actually attacked him yeah so when he called in saying Wack ran content on me they're like

what the fuck you're talking about where they're asking them right so he got to a place point to where he's like, the shit he said wouldn't make it. In the full spectrum of whack running content on you, what you actually did was really almost nothing. Yeah, so he took something and tried to make it something. And you know nephew running this shit, whatever. I just put somebody on his books the other day, right?

He calls me every fucking day, right? So, um... Okay, three different media strategies that we've seen throughout this. Big you, yes, he did make the stupid video before he got, locked up, which got him on additional charge. But since he's been locked up, haven't heard anything from him. Brick Baby called into the news. I had a brief conversation with him off air, stuff like that.

But hasn't really volunteered any information that seems like it would be of use. Let's talk about some more bullshit. But loose cannon is seemingly appearing on any podcast that will have him and is really saying at least some stuff that seems like it is ill-advised. Yeah, whatever he's doing. What's your attitude on that? Are you concerned about how much he is talking, given that he's in a situation where he should be more concerned

with fighting for his freedom? I've told him to focus on what's in front of me. Mike, I didn't. You know, but Luce knows what Luce is doing. It's a method to his madness regardless of how you see it or how I see it. It's a reason why he's doing whatever he's doing. Why? I don't know why.

But he's already, first thing, I told him, I'm like, yo, bro, they will send your ass to the hole. My people's on the Fed is saying, whack. Tell a dude they'll send him to the hole behind the three-way calling to these podcasts. Right. Right? I take a screenshot of it. I send it to his wife.

Right? I don't want them to think it's coming from me. This is coming from Cassadier's time in the feds. So, loose calls me. Oh, what? You know I'm not stupid, right? what? Cherise told me what you sent her.

Yeah. Them dudes that been to the feds telling me that. Right? Okay, hold on. Officer, can you come here? What? Before I called into the podcast, what have I established with y'all?

You come and get permission for us. We know you do it. I swear to God. Wow. Right. So how do you take that? That's just lose being loose. Like he's getting into wherever environment, and he, you know, he sets up a way to operate.

Do you think that he's just kind of addicted to the clout that he's experiencing? Because it's probably kind of overwhelming because he's probably never been this viral before. No, I definitely do. This is what he's been fighting for in a lot of ways, right? I don't know to what extent, but I'm going to show you, like, I swear to God, I call, look, I sent it my home boy, lavish, one to expose is look I screen look I'm sitting this a loose's wife

tell Luke right here the black one Tell them to stop letting loose call into No Jumper The fed's obviously watching it Them three-way calls will get a disciplinary action Feds don't play that Especially with witnesses out in the public He will line himself up

So I send it to her Because I don't want to text it like it's coming from me Okay So when he calls me He calls me and lets me know hey, not only do they know what I'm doing, I got them to let us watch the no jumper on the TV in here. What? Really?

I swear to God. Shout out to all my convict. That's loose, right? Convict music. That's loose. He just told me, Casanova just pulled up. Really? He said, NBA young boy left two days before he got there, Cassidover just pulled up. Brick baby said he was talking to Dirk in there. He was yelling into the toilet.

Probably through the toilet. Good of Vince. Dirk, how are you doing? But right as I was coming. in here YBG told me that there are Brick Baby Disses on the New Little Dirk album. Might be. Okay, look, Rick Baby. I still didn't figure this out.

Who put out, this wasn't me. Who put out the narrative he got stabbed? I think just a random YouTuber. We kind of ran with it. We put it in the title question mark, question mark. Brick Baby stabbed, but I think it was just a random music. So now, see what I'm saying? Like, so think about it. People are that thirsty for content

that they don't even require it. But you can't say that because you reposted it. Yeah, we kind of leaned into it. But we didn't start it. Just because Brick baby stabbed question mark, question mark is like, our audience has got to tune into that. And they expect y'all to talk about it. Well, it was out there enough that it felt like we had to kind of address it.

It's getting to a point to where like, and then other podcasts of the bloggers who don't know what the fuck is going on. Have you ever seen a clip about you where it's this dude from Maine somewhere? and he just then looked at about 50 different clips and he just then took all the weird shit that different people didn't say it. And then he pieces it together like is him. And you can tell.

I'm like, bro, you didn't watch YouTube for three days. It took a bunch of shit you didn't hurt. Yeah. You know, but at the end of the day, you got to take the good with the bad. The crazy shit, honestly, is that like, I used to pay AD and T-Row to do podcasts on No Jumper and then go home and react to No Jumper at home from their homes.

Now they're not getting paid. Their streams are 100%. Like we might have to start sending copyright violations because T-REL literally is just sitting on stream watching No Jumper content like every night. It is bananas. Wait. You send all that content is No Jumper content? They literally like left thinking that they were going to be able to create the next

big West Coast platform and instead I mean, T-REL is like by far the worst one because I see punning AD reacting to stuff but T-Rill is the worst one T-REL is just literally hours, hours every night talking about us and watching clips of us. Now I will say the other one. What's the dude that talk like this? Duna.

No, smack. Smack. I told you when I called you. You called my phone, smack. You call me. and when I talked about what I talked about I look up the next day and you apologizing to the lady and all this type of shit. Like a truck kitchen manny or whatever? He apologizing.

He said, Wack, should be giving me free tacos? I didn't want to f*** my plug up, right? T.rell was like, T.rell like, yo, you got to just bring the paperwork because Wack just telling us everything he said is there.

You get what I'm saying? but smack you want some bullshit because don't call me want me to run your shit up Smack for sure would tell for a taco They ever get him in that interrogation room They put a couple of Carnayasada tacos In front of him he's talking about everything

That ever happened in the hood You tripping I'm just saying Smack will sing His heart out for a taco I don't know nothing about Smack tell it But smack tucked that tail Bro you tucked that damn tail I saw you old there

I did buy it. Come on, bro. You wanted me to run it up. People called Wack to run it up. And at that point, I was just reading what was on the document. I haven't even tapped into this 75 page. Are you familiar with the whole trap kitchen thing? Like, why did they let her go from the job?

They just don't want to be associated with criminality in any way, or is it because they think that she might be telling it? No. I'm not going to say they let her go because she was telling because that would be unethical for them to do that. She got like a new name. Egg Roll, babe or something. I think that because she started going on the internet and fighting back for whatever reason,

they just didn't want that type of stigma on their brand. You get what I'm saying? Trap Kitchen is not a, it's a real business, it's a real organization, it's not a gang or click. It's a real business as is Maestro's is a restaurant or any other place you may go. a restaurant, it's a real business. And I think when she came home and she attacked me, Bosco, T-Rail, smack, they whole thing is like, yo, come home and get back to the business. You doing that is going to everybody, somebody,

every time somebody tags you, they're tagging your name, such as such, such, trap kitchen, money, right? And that's not, because you got a power, ruin a Crip came together to do that. right so it's like this is a real business like it's like you're putting a dark light on the brand so if that's what you want to do then we're going to get away from you because we can't tell you when and we're not to talk imagine i told break baby like oh you're fired sorry you got indicted you're done i mean you know it's very much the opposite here an indictment could get you on the staff I had no jumper I mean you know

Oh yeah because it's conversation I mean it's something to talk about for sure You know I you know it's conversation But it's just like I And I talked about this in clubhouse on the morning show over there I'm like bro sitting back When SKG hit me And told me yo

The family interview with TMZ I'm like we're family Because I'm still at the time I'm like You know And she told them I'm like So they're like a real thing It's the real people and she's like, yeah, I'm like, damn.

Because my whole troll was, it really wasn't at them because I'm figuring they trolled me. What the bullshit. It was the troll big you. You know what I'm saying? We're trying to troll him and antagonize him, get his blood going. I mean, shit, he got my blood going at a time or two.

So shit, you know, fair and love, you know, and love and war, right? To hear her tell me that, I'm like, damn, that shit was really a thing. Right. You know, and I still don't know If all of love it was, you know, it was like certain things that they were saying to me

It was like, it's some bullshit, but fuck it. It's a solid clip. I'm going to put it around our murder mystery room And we're going to run with it. And it gives us 90 minutes, two-hour room. And we ran with it. And then it gives my media team something to cut up and put out there.

I was deeply moved by the SKG interview. I told you. She's dealt with some. of shit. You didn't even know what she was. I'm like, bro, you don't know. That's why I'm like, when you pulled her up. Yeah.

And you seen something at the end. I'm like, bro, like, you should really talk to her. And that's KG. Been around. Yeah. Her name means Shug Night Girl. Yeah. She was around us before Big You.

Mm-hmm. Because when Big You was in jail is when her rise started. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? And I mean, I mean, her story of how Big You just consistently tormented her over the years and fucked up multiple different business situations she had going, like especially from the perspective of a young black chick from the hood, for her to have to face all of these challenges and all these obstacles

that, you know, somebody not from that environment wouldn't have had to deal with. Did she tell you about the 250? She paints a picture of him as a fucking monster way worse than even that indictment. What do you say? Did she tell you about the 250,000? She didn't tell you about it? No. That's what got her DP.

and then another thing she told me. The DP word Nipsey set her up at the Marathon store with that. No, she was saying that there was, she was trying to align the radio station with Big U to basically like, you know, run shit through his nonprofit, and then she realized it was shady, so she decided to cut it off, and then he kept showing up at the business.

$250,000. I don't think she mentioned that dollar. Okay, so what it was was she went up there. SKG is a hustling. Uh-huh. this is out of error where we created Crush Groove, How the West was One, Wack 100, and a little light skin guy named AD, who was the program director of K-Day, created these things. SKG is in there doing her own thing, but she was so good at marketing, right?

We kept her on the team. Now, I'm going to be real. The reason why I say she's a solid chick, she said, Wack, I never told you back then because I had an obligation to where I was from. She said, you remember the day you walked in there and Biggie was in the back with me? I'm like, yeah.

He thinking, I got you there. I'm telling him, no. He's here with my boss. Wack been doing business. Not only doing business with the boss, he's doing business with one of the chairmen's at Live Nation. Nick Masters, right? She said,

this one I knew you was a real dude and genuine, and he was fake. She said, I saw all you used to do for him, all the doors you opened. That dude looked at me and said, and dissed, don't get that ass word, no plugs in here. And when you came out and seen him, like, bro, what's up what you got going on?

I don't put something together. Bro, pull up on me later. I saw how he handled you, and I'm like, damn, whack be really like helping positioning dude, and the dude thought I was in there for some SKG shit.

I'm in there doing business with your boss. I bet at my run. Whatever y'all doing, y'all doing. We putting together this amphitheater a motherfucker and show that when we got control of the budget, right? So, but she didn't tell me back then. Although she said,

because I thought about it told you, even after she got her ass whoop, she still didn't tell me because she was obligated to the flag she was under it. So, Dad allocated a quarter million dollars for some program she had created for the kids,

inner city kids. Right. For people with nonprofit. Although SKG was out of the 60s, she said, I'm gonna get a Hoover's 50,000, the Black Peacstone's Blood 50,000. The Harlem's 50,000, the 60s, 50,000. And I believe the swan's 50,000.

Right. Big, you find out about it. He'd tell her, now, you're sending all that to the 60s. you give them the whole $250 to our nonprofit. She's like, nah, this is for the kids. I want all the kids in the different sections. And when she didn't do that, that's when she got a DP.

Wow. That's where the DP come from. But, you know, I didn't, you know, I dealt with SKGs as we needed her on me and AD shows. You know what I'm saying? I didn't even really know what he was doing. What it wasn't my business. Spoiler, because the whole thing isn't out yet,

but she does verify that she believes that you're a very, good person in the interview. Bro, I should look out, bro. I open the door. Like, I don't even know you. Like, yo, whack, I hear whoop. I opened the door. I didn't care where he was from.

And this is why, bro, I got so much blowback from bringing a dude to the table. And they're telling me, like, man, listen, man, we think you're making a mistake. But we had it. Well, I thought we had a brotherhood. So one of the same people who used to tell me

Hey, hom, we don't forget where you from. I think you're a little too far out there in the water. You're getting a little too close. Was with me when I got the call that him and Shug and I tried to backdoor me on my label. And he looked at me and said, I told you, so this on you. And he was right.

You know what I'm saying? This is why it was kind of like, it was easy for me to just to turn it off. because I had already been getting it, been getting it, and this is the crazy part. It's other Crips who do not, especially on the East Side,

mess would do. Right. But I had introduced him on the strength of me. So when me and him kind of start getting into it, he's making his rounds on the phone, I guess, call this self, I don't know what he calls himself doing.

He called the people, yo, you know, I don't fwagon on most, so, you know, on the crippling leave it alone. You know what they're telling him? Hey, bro, we only f*** with you because of Wack. You met us because of Wack. How are you going to call us talking about don't f*** with Wack? Well, we only fucking with you because of Wack.

Not the crazy part about it, Big You. Whatever y'all got going on, we hear about it. But Wack ain't called over here, said nothing to us. And he got some leeway too. So why is you calling us when we only know you and dealt with you is because of Wack? So I was getting all these calls And I'm like, damn, bro because even at that

I felt like I was I just wasn't fucking with him. Whatever plugs and resources I gave you I wasn't going to try to turn them off and take them from you. Feed your family. But on the flip side, everything my people was telling me

it was I seen him attempt to do. He just couldn't do it because he had started lying to herself that he was me and the situation was his and they really might. You can't turn my situation off when it's my situation.

You just, it's not going to work. Right. Right. So, but again, these 75 pages I read, I've never seen that guy. I'm not, this shit ain't trod it no more

because I'm reading some, if all these facts is on there, I've never seen that big you. I don't know who that is. Definitely. Did you know about, loose canton allegedly stealing $40,000 from Black China's

mom or whatever? When I looked into it, she didn't say well, I guess you can't say it is. When you get into it, it's a little bit more complicated. I'm going to tell you why. Her framing is a little opportunistic. And Black China don't get mad at me because I knew you'd be full loose.

Oh my God. Black China appearing on an episode of this show would be amazing. I mean, we always been cool. She walked out on me like five years ago. I feel like it's probably water under the bridge. Black China. Come on. She's still got my number and changed.

We'll have a respectable conversation. This is why when I looked at it, I didn't know how to read it. I've been knowing Black China a long time. I knew it before it loose. I've seen her and Loose together. They come to my studio, all that, right? Okay. But, and this is way before Black China made her turnaround.

Okay. And got off drugs and stopped drinking and all this, right? Okay. It will be times where I would book Black China to do a date or a gig and it'll be all love. Okay, whack, as long as you're going to beat, I'll meet you in the parking lot,

I'll have your money. Cool. She'll get to the parking lot and she had totally even person. Really? She's tripping going crazy. I'm trying to give her, one time I had to follow her home

to give her her money. She would not take the money because she was a little high. The drugs, drugs and liquor, right? And again, this is, this is not as a reason. This is before she got her shit together. Okay.

So I can see Luce being with her, this is a woman. And he like, what a $40,000 at? I don't know. I gave it to my mom. And Luce going in there knowing that you're going to wake up in the morning and talking about where my $40,000 at. You know if, why would I give her $40,000, Luce? If you're with me and you're sober,

and I'm doing something stupid. Like I can see Luce going in there as the mom said. You know all she'd do. She didn't mean to do this and getting the money back. Now, I haven't seen Black China. Has Black China responded and said, Luce didn't bring the money back to her? No, I think it's just been her mom talking about.

Yeah, so at that point, I can see Black China like, here, take this. Luce asking where the money go. I just this and him going back in there and get it. Because the mom said she bought. voluntarily gave it back. But what she's saying is years later, Black China brought up,

what about the 40 I gave you? And she's saying, well, Luce came said you, Luce came back to get it. So until Black China authenticated that, yes, I really did. And the 40, he went back and got, I never seen. I got to take it like, it's a toss up.

Interesting. Did Luce go back and get it? I'm pretty sure he did. because Black China used to be out there. But I think he went back and got it because he knew his girl was tripping. Oh, this is crazy. Okay, can you show the screen?

Okay, so this is the video of Soswaka and Saseo P getting ran down on and shot. Okay, who was that on the left? A little bit too much. Who was that? That sauce? I'm not 100% sure exactly. He got hit too, because Saseo was stretched out behind the S&E.

I've seen some closer pictures of that. Well, this guy gets shot for sure, but that's too skinny to be say-so, right? That might have been sauce. Okay. That might have been saseo was behind that. I'm not sure. There is a description. They already got their identification, right?

Well, either way, the reason why we're bringing this up is because based on this video, it would appear that Rainwater might have just been making shit up when he told you that they stood over sauce and chose to let them live because they knew who it was. sauce on the other side of that escalade, though? I am not. Because if you look at it, dude in the black right there, sauce, if that's the first little dude, he falls.

Okay, the surveillance video shows two gunmen exiting a white Dodge charger and then approaching a black Cadillac escalate before firing shots, while another suspect lags behind near the vehicle. One person, presumably Sauce Walker, can then be seen running away. The assailants then get back

into their vehicle before driving off. So I guess given that, given that, So this is the car that contains the shooters and then the escalate right here. See, that's why this guy being like, oh, okay. See, look, stop right there. I believe that's sauce. Is he right there by the passenger door?

Uh-huh, right here. Yeah, that's sauce. Because the other dude is dead behind him. Right. I think the dude right there, look, because dude in the red, he goes to the back of it. See, look, look, look. So if that's the case, dude right here did stand over sauce.

Okay. If that was sauce by that... It's just weird because who's this and why is he falling like that? Is this just a regular person that just got scared who didn't get shot? It could be. You saw the pictures of a dude dead behind the SUV, right? Oh, I didn't actually see the pictures. I seen the pictures of the holes in Suss Walker's legs, but...

Yeah, so if that's sauce on that side of it, then... Dude could have finished him. For sure. But either way, I mean, insane situation. Like, it really feels like this would be one of the biggest... This as well as the Yellow Beezie situation have kind of gotten a little bit of their publicity stolen by the fact that this RICO came out at the same time, at least for us. Wait, this is a three-second clip. Oh, that's, that's Say-So's body right there.

Jesus. Yeah, I mean, do you feel like Rainwater misled you intentionally or not? I don't know if he did me. Okay, listen, if that sauce over here running away, then that's some bullshit because there's nothing. because there wasn't nobody around him to stand over it. Okay. But if that's sauce by that passenger side door, then dude in the all-black was definitely standing over it.

Right. Do you see this sort of situation and just feel like... But I don't know how he would know that. Nobody's there to hear that. Like is Sauce Walker just living too wild? I don't believe that was from Sauce Walker. I'm hearing that the other dude took $285,000 from somebody. And his parents are denied.

not, but how the hell would they know? How would they know? They're supposed to deny. Yeah. I don't believe that was for sauce. He just happened to, you know, be there and he was with him. And I think him flashing the money and how he'd been flashing it, it's already a disrespect that you took something from somebody.

So now you're flashing money saying what you got and you're not making no attempt to communicate or pay your debt, you know, led to this. But it looked at me like a day or so ago, and I told somebody this, I said, look, bro, that shit is right there. That's their money maker section, right? It looks like a nice area. No, that's right in the center of it. I literally was just there, me and R&B.

When you're there, that camera system is going to follow you everywhere you go, unless you get out into the sticks. And even then it's going to say, this is where we lost them at. this is why they was able to track him. Right. You see they got them getting out the car, mask off. Yeah. Because from there, just like the dude that killed rest in peace,

Dollar. Mm. And the Beverly Hills valet. Right. That camera systems, ATM, ring doorbells, the cameras on the buildings, tracked him to where they was able to tap dude on his shoulder at the airport. So as they getting away, it's just tracking them block by block by block.

Yeah, yeah. No, when they really want to put that shit together, it's surprisingly easy. Yeah, you see the whole. I mean, when Duck got killed, they traced, they had video footage of the guys running through the stairwells in O Block, and then they have like 150 or whatever different camera angles that captured their license plates as they drove to kill him. I mean, how on earth could you ever beat something like that? not only that, they're going to be able, now that they tracked them leaving, they're going to be able to track them coming in, too. They're going to find that car on the coming in.

Yeah, and they already found at least one of the guys. Or they identified them. I don't know if they actually have. Yeah, I've seen. They had a clear picture of him like, damn. It ain't even been two, three days. Definitely. I just want to say, I'm going to end the podcast with this.

Show screen, but go. He lost a little weight. Maybe a little bit. You think you should stick with the long hair? I like it. It's like a new. softer era for him. I mean, you like it because you like men.

I do. I like Krip Mac a lot. But I just feel like the hair. When I grew my hair out, my girl said that it just made me seem so much softer, nicer, more approachable. And now she actually likes the shave head. She tells me she wants the shave head. Maybe I need to look a little bit harder, a little tougher.

Yeah, but you want to do too much to get hair. That's what I'm saying. And when I keep my head shaved, now that I've had the hair surgery multiple times, it's like, you can see that there's just like different topography going. on on my dome. Like the hair follicles look a little different on the various sections of my head. So I don't think I would want to keep it real short. I mean, bro, you flew like 12, 13 hours. How long was that procedure? 12 hours? Mind numbing process. Fly to turkey, do a 12 hour surgery, spend three days in the hotel room eating the same burger over and over and over from room

service because I just didn't even want to consider finding anything else. And then just fly home. That was weird. Yeah, 24 hours of flights, 12 hours of surgery, three hours three days of the same burger. Now, Lina, you got to deal with the hair. No, it was weak. Anyway, what are you got going on? What do we need to know about?

I think we can wrap this up, right? That was a good conversation. Yeah, man. Free the Crips. Free all the Crips. It's a lot going on. I got four good ones behind bars right now. CribMack, 4Sha, Brick Baby, and Blueface. All guys that we've made a ton of amazing content with over the years and they're all gone,

but they're all probably coming back realistically pretty soon or Brick Baby might have to go sit down at some point for a little while, but the rest of them should be home pretty soon. I mean, that did, that, did. Brick baby's situation is a little confusing too. Yeah. Because he's not named in the RICO. I know.

But he's in the RICO. They just rolled it all up together. Make it look good. He's in the RICO. He's their selection. He's in the RICO, but he's not named in the RICO. It's crazy. Well, he was in the criminal complaint, but now that they've actually pressed charges against Big U,

he's not really implicated in any of that stuff. No, he's in that. He is. He's named in that, committing the robbery and breaking up the money with him. So that's why I'm like, yo, he's not named in the RICO, but he's in the RICO. So Brick, uh, Brick is, he's skating, he's skating through there. It's going to be so funny having him. presumably back on the podcast at some point,

hopefully within the next couple weeks or whatever, because the reason why I hired him was because he had no filter. Now he's in a position where he absolutely needs to have a filter about a lot of stuff, but it's just going to be weird to see like how much he is willing to open up versus how much, especially because Big You said, loose cannon, I don't fuck with him. Brick Baby, I don't fuck with him.

We're Brick Baby. That's cap. Yeah, he's just saying that, I guess, for... He's just whatever. But either way, that was just kind of like, oh, you don't fuck with him. Do you want him to act like he doesn't fuck with you? Because that will probably look quite a bit different

than how he's been acting for the last few years. If he acted like he didn't fuck with him, boy, have been an open field. Because he was the blocker up here. If Brick Baby wanted to go loose cannon... Who knows what he knows? Probably got a story or two, story time videos.

Oh, shit. It's possible to imagine. But yeah, okay, shut out, Wag 100, Adam 22. If you enjoyed this episode, please smash the like button, drop a comment down below. We would really appreciate it.

Make sure you subscribe. Go to the YouTube homepage, become a member for only $5 a month. We would really appreciate that. And, yeah, shout out to everybody who watch this. Free all the crips. I'm going to say it once again. I might even just throw it up one time.

Listening to the family, once again, hey, I get a thousand phone calls a day, text messages from all kind of crazy deranged people, running their narratives. You just happened to call with the right narrative for us to antagonize this dude. We didn't know that you, if you are the family that did the TMZ shit, our apologies, we had no idea the shit you was telling us was really real. If it was, we would have handled it totally different. If you're not the family, then shit.

Fuck you anyway. You just content. But if you are, my apologies. Next Adam and Wack show featuring the family of Rayshan Williams. Where are they at? We'll know who they are. TMZ, I here did it, so we should be seeing it soon. At least we'll be able to get a visual on who's over.

Let's get into it. Free the Crips, no John Burr. Adam and Wack. We out. We out.