No Jumper - J Money on Being Robbed & Shot in LA Last Month, Coming Up with Future & More

Episode Date: December 27, 2022

J Money talks about his recent incidents, working with Future, Young Scooter, Gucci Mane, and more!  ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https...://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper, coolest podcast on the world. And today, we got my man Jay Money in the building. Hello. And so, I mean, there's multiple ways we could go with this because you have like a crazy story to rap history. You've been around a lot of the biggest movements coming out of Atlanta and everything. But the thing that has had you in the news in recent memory, which maybe we should just, you know, talk about it just to get it going just because everybody's curious about this,
Starting point is 00:00:26 is that. So basically what? you were, I don't know how much of this, I should lay out, but you were involved in an armed robbery attempt that ended in a shooting that you have luckily survived. Yeah, for sure. And you were driving in a very expensive car that, what was it, some Korean billionaire owns it or something. There's a lot of very strange details about this, that I have no real understanding of how this
Starting point is 00:00:48 could be true. No, I mean, the Korean being that, that's just my friend who bought it for me. But he's the crown prince of Korea. Yeah, for sure. I don't hang out with a lot of royalty Yeah I ain't like here A real dude Like he's been rocking with my music
Starting point is 00:01:02 From the jump And we got cool Like, you know, through He just was a real dude That support my music 1,000 Kind of a dude that was around him reached out to me
Starting point is 00:01:15 Then once me and him Linked up, bro Like we've been best friends Ever since Like five or six years Really? Yeah Yeah, real dude
Starting point is 00:01:23 And so you just link up with him When you're out here? I mean, shit, we are almost together either every day or if I'm in Atlanta, we just talk on the phone down there every day. What are you talking about with the crown prince of Korea? I mean, what it is, is like, okay, it was a dude that, like, it's called a Joe sign nation. And, but it's a part of, it's a, like, royalty in Korea. Uh-huh. And it was a dude that, like, I forgot the dude name.
Starting point is 00:01:51 But he being, like, the prince and king of that shit, like, the past four years. Like the past 40 years like it's a crazy story behind it and uh they seen how king lee was like andrew lee was and they just was like man you need to get them take over what we're doing and they crowned in the prince like now like he got crazy poor like he's a crown prince here minister he the first one to discover bitcoin like first ever dude like he actually was going door to door promoting Bitcoin to people putting on a suit and going do to do promoting Bitcoin you know a lot of people at that time when it even probably came to you at the time back when when people was promoting
Starting point is 00:02:36 Bitcoin probably the biggest financial mistake I ever made in my life was ignoring the people that told me about Bitcoin in like 2009 yeah but you know what when they said like yeah you can buy this but it ain't worth no money yeah and I'm like you couldn't you couldn't you could not have made me understand me neither at that time i think when they said it to him i like what no worth no money okay i was dead to it then yeah and then now it's like because back then it was like worth like five dollars a coin but before that it was worth like even just like pennies yeah penny yeah yeah i think when it came to me it worth like two three dollars or some shit like that's
Starting point is 00:03:14 still the early days yeah that's still super early because you remember at one point it was it like 68,000. Nancy-ish. Yeah, 20. But it's had so many bad things happen to it and still at 20. Yeah, see, that's, I thank God, even meeting King Lee, you know, he run that shit. So he blessed me, gifted me with, like, over 100 coins.
Starting point is 00:03:35 You know what I'm saying? At a time where it was, like, super high. Wow. But he was like, Jay, don't spend a coin. And it was times where I was like, I'm going to trade something. I'm going to trade something for some cash. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:48 but I stuck to him. You know, I ain't like, I'm going to stay true to it. You know, I'm going to listen to him. You know what I'm saying? I didn't listen to Bitcoin in the beginning. I'm going to listen to him now. So I kind of like, it was time where I know I wanted to trade like 10, at least 10 of them in, but I didn't. Even at the point is that people are like, man, you should have traded someone.
Starting point is 00:04:09 It was at 60. I mean, if you needed some cash and you got 20. Yeah, you could let go one or two, right? Yeah. But I thank God. You know, I never got to the point where I just needed cash like that. Right. Me, always, you know, figure something out, you know.
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Starting point is 00:05:38 that happens to be under his name, but you're just driving into this apartment building? No, it wasn't any like that. It was like I was in my roles. Like first I was sitting outside my building waiting on my girl to come down. Then it was just like a thump hit my damn my top. I'm like what the hell? I look around I don't see shit, you know. So I pulled in my parking garage, the absolute departments they showed. I actually lived there.
Starting point is 00:06:09 You know, I don't live there no more, you know, too many people know now. Right. And because I try to live under the radar, you know, I come from the streets. always driving a rear view so it wasn't no nigger following me you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:06:23 there was some shit you know a nigga don't see me playing this shit plotted it I pull in my garage I pull in my garage when I pull in
Starting point is 00:06:32 open the door kind of like two dudes right there so you know me I thank God I got so many blessings I ain't feeling just like you know if I'm caught down bad
Starting point is 00:06:46 in the street you can have your gun on you but if I catch you what it's say element of surprise. Yeah. You can have that motherfucker on you, but if they catch you without grabbing it or having it in your hand ready to shoot,
Starting point is 00:07:00 you got what you got to do, you got to either get it up or die. Even if you carry a gun in your waistline, a big percentage of situations in which you might need to use it, it would basically be useless. Yeah, for sure. Because they're going to be getting the drop on you. If they're robbing you an intelligent way, you're not going to have time to get it.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Element of surprise, you know. And, you know, me, I don't like, I'm like, shit, whatever, I'm going to get this shit. I'm going to get it again. Then it was like a situation. I had a little bracelet that wouldn't come off. So, you know, I guess, nigga like, man, you're playing. Digger, like, you're playing.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Nothing to kill this nigga. So they were just trying to take the jewelry. Yeah, basically. And so what, like, you come up off the chains and then you have the bracelet on? I have the bracelet still on because it's hard to take off. That's the one. No, hell, no, this might... Oh, that's a watch, right?
Starting point is 00:07:52 No, I ain't have all my jewelry, huh? Okay. Hell, no, I don't never do that. It's another bracelet that I just went to Ashley got fixed. Because I'm telling him, like, man, even when I was in surgery, they couldn't get this motherfucker out. Like, it took them the word to get the bracelet off. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:10 So, uh, during the situation, a nigga thought I was just playing, like, okay, he's trying... And not thinking, like, I don't get you a Rolex, three times. Like, why would I not give you this bracelet? bracelet. And, uh, so it was like, nigga, like, man, I'm feeling a kid this nigga. It was just one dude. No, it was two. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:29 But only one gun. Right. That's how I know it was somebody that knew, like, okay, he's going to be by his cell. You know what I'm saying? Because one nigga on, we got two dudes with only one gun. Right. Come on. Like, two dudes, put out two guns. If it, you know. But, uh, so, you know, my first mind was like, damn. I don't gay the nigga there, and he's still talking about there.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I got to do something to get up out of this motherfucker. Right. So I put that bitch in reverse, hit it. And when I hit it, the nigga shot one time. Faw. The one shot went through my arm that went in my chest. Like, my whole chest now. So it up, stapled up from right to left, like, all the way up here.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Wow. Like, it didn't hit any vital. organs or yeah hit my lawn actually uh it took like 25% of my lung holy fuck yeah and uh you know know i was in a coma 13 days 13 holy shit yeah i was in a coma 13 days and did they think that you were going to make it the whole time or at first they didn't think you were going to make it they shit for the first 11 days they told my sister like yeah he got insurance he got this y'all need to be preparing if, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:52 him, his funeral arrangements. And, you know, for my sister to hear shit like that, it's like, damn, because my sister, Carla, like, her and my girl, Blue, like, they all, like, got, for real. Like, my family, you know, I still got my family, but my sister, Call her in Blue, they, like, just crazy, crazy over me.
Starting point is 00:10:11 You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. So, actually, the crazy part is, like they just kept telling my sister then her mind was like no like and you know my mom she passed away uh may 20 21 I'm sorry and she was a real like real God-fearing praying lady so you know that instilled that in me and my sister and my and my other sister really my whole family everybody she touched and my sister wasn't going for it like she just said she just
Starting point is 00:10:45 pray harder, call the family, everybody praying, even just to love, even y'all showed to get the attention out to all my fans and people let them know, it was a lot of prayers that, you know, saved my life. Because me, I believe in God. It was doctors coming around because I had a surgery called a clamshell,
Starting point is 00:11:06 Thorotomy, clamshell, some shit. But if you Google it, it showed you what everybody had, they have to open your whole, chest because I was bleeding so bad like I lost like 15 pints you know your body on the whole 10 but they had to keep giving it to me and I just kept losing and they didn't know so they had to open up my whole chest my lungs heart all that shit open how long did it take them to get you from the scene of the crime to the hospital man let me tell you what thank God like when the shit
Starting point is 00:11:41 happened after I pulled off and got shot this whole on went dead instantly Like you see now like I can move my fingers a little bit Like but this whole arm went dead instantly like it was just like slumped like I couldn't even think to pick it up in there And I'm like why the fuck is my right on now I got shot over here why this motherfucker ain't working at all So you know I'm in the roads I instantly hit it so hard and come out the gate you know how the first part let up and then the gate have to open after that i went through that first part so fast it didn't even get the other part of the gate to open up shit and then get the other part of the gate to open up so i had to hit that motherfucker hit through the gate because
Starting point is 00:12:27 you know my whole instant like nigg i got to stay alive like fuck this shit fuck a car fuck all that so i get through the gate boom remind you i'm coming out the parking garage of my apartments so to get to the front you got to make a right in a quick right luckily my girl was already downstairs and i i just go to the easiest way i can like if you see like the photos and should i like to ran through the front of the building of apartments like i did kind of come up on the curve to where it's coming in the front of the big apartments but my girl was right there so i put it in part with this hand. But my door
Starting point is 00:13:14 was unlocked, I mean unlocked. So my girl trying to open up the door, open up the door, she's just screaming at me. And it just, like, something in my head, like, and it was my mama. She used to call my name, like, anytime, like, she mad at me or she won't
Starting point is 00:13:30 me bad, like, Germain, because that's my real name. So I just instantly heard, like, Germain. And I got them open the door. When I open the door, my girl helped me. Like, this is on dead, so I can't even really do nothing.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Then you got to remind you, it hit my lung, so I can't breathe for shit. Like, I'm to my light at all. And, uh, thank God, man, my girl blew. She instantly, like, call 911. Instantly, like. So I'm on the ground. And, you know, my girl, like, she, like, she's, like, She was so on point, bro, like, my sister, you know, she's in Atlanta, you know, because I
Starting point is 00:14:14 told her I lost my mom. So my sister called her, like, the closest thing I got to her mom. My girl and my sister called at this time. They weren't, before this time, they weren't seen out of eye for shit. But my girl put all that shit to the side, called my sister FaceTime, though. She was so fast, she ended up FaceTime my sister while I'm still on the ground, showing her me on the ground, like, look, your brother just got shot. and hearing a fucked up situation.
Starting point is 00:14:41 When I tell you, like, thank God, blue called him so fast, the police were there, like, a minute or two, no lot. Like, two minutes, I know while I'm laying on the ground, like people from an apartment building, surrounding me and shit. Like, next to say, I know, like, two minutes it took for the police to get there and maybe total, like, four minutes for the ambulance. Thank God for that, you know what I'm saying? and they're like man you're in the bad they like you're in a messed up situation right now and they
Starting point is 00:15:15 they're like just bad with us we're gonna get you to the hospital and I just hear the urgency and their voices and shit like we got to get this dude here all I hear is the ambulance and I just feel bumps because you know I'm zoned out now like I can barely breathe they got oxygen on and I still can't breathe and uh I just know when they got me in the hospital I couldn't see shit just lights And I just know Like I'm hearing the urgency Of the doctors and shit
Starting point is 00:15:46 Like we got to operate right now And next thing I just felt some shit Like somebody shot me again Like it hurt just that bad They stuck like some shit in my knee They say that's how they get your IV When it's very emergencies And they can't look for a vein
Starting point is 00:16:01 And after that I ain't see I don't remember nothing Like I guess that's when I went into the coma because after that I don't remember shit until I woke up right and what was waking up like man we're kind of like weird
Starting point is 00:16:18 it was like because for the whole 13 days all I remember is like kicking it with my mama like going fishing with my mom we went to turkey lead hunting Houston because I had just went to turkey led I was here about that yeah I had went me and King Lee we had flew private jet
Starting point is 00:16:36 to the turkey we went from LA to Houston to Miami and we went to Houston we went to turkey leg hunt I was like damn my mama used to always cook her turkey leg I know she would have loved this place right so it's crazy while I was in this coma I took my mom on a turkey leg hunt like I remember like it was yesterday wow and so like you being a religious man how like how do you describe that like like what did it feel like Did it feel like you were dead and you were in this experience, or did it feel like you were in some kind of in-between place? You know what?
Starting point is 00:17:13 It felt like at some points in the beginning, I think it felt like I was just like, this is what heaven, like, this is what it feels like. Then it was times it felt like in-between. I mean, in theory, heaven would just be the number one thing you would want to do in your life if you could do it. And it sounds like for you that probably would be spending time on your mom, right? My mom, yeah. And it was like, and you know by me seeing my mom, knowing like she never like smoke, drink, curse, never. All she did was God and work. Like that's up.
Starting point is 00:17:49 That was my mom, M.O. God and going to work. And like, she stayed in church, like, much as she could. Like, she went, she didn't just go on Sunday. She went to, like, Bible study, choir rehearsals and shit like that. So it was like By me saying her I'm like shit I'm in heaven
Starting point is 00:18:08 Like shit I did something right You know because you know I'm a type person I help everybody Like everybody you know what I'm saying So it was just like Damn I really crossed over This I heaven feel
Starting point is 00:18:25 Because it wasn't no bad feeling It was just like everything was just like bright and happy Right Like I'm with my mom I didn't even think of the part of like, oh, she died before, you know, that didn't even cross my mind. I just was like, damn, I'm with my mom. And I can't lie, bro, it like, by me just like, it was like at the end. It was like my mom like, uh-uh, you got to go.
Starting point is 00:18:51 You got to go. She just kept saying it. And then it was like, I didn't see her. I ain't know what the hell I was going, what I was doing. I ain't know about going left or right. and then next thing I know I wake up, bro I see the fucking, you know how the hospital chart like with your name and your diets and shit like that
Starting point is 00:19:14 it was a chart that'd be on the wall of every hospital because I was in the ICU and I just seen that chart then I see some shit coming out my mouth because you know they had a they had to put a breathing tube down my throat like from my mouth and my mouth was just like open and I just see like a breathing too I'm like what the fuck like oh yeah damn my
Starting point is 00:19:43 did get shot right you happy because I mean leaving heaven coming back to earth where you're in all this pain I feel I went I can't say I would bro right I think I was like when like I guess like my sister than once they told him I woke up because you know the whole 13 days. My sister, my girl, my other sister, my friend Shooter, King Lee, Kevin, like, they all came down, like, just watching me. And, uh, they said the only thing I do was move
Starting point is 00:20:19 my legs. Like, they said, well, I was in the coma. All the thing I do is move my legs and shit. And they had my hands strapped down because, you know, they say just reactions of, you might just grab some shit or whatever. And, uh, I say like 30 minutes. I can't say if it was an hour later. I looked up and I seen my girl blue and my sister Carla. And when I seen my sister, she weighed.
Starting point is 00:20:47 I kind of like way back. And I just started like, I just was like, it don't know if it was tears of joy or tears of survival. Because, you know, I got kids. I can't lead them like this. You know what I'm saying? As much as I want to be with my mom. man no okay man i made i made it to heaven i know i couldn't leave my people out here you know what i'm
Starting point is 00:21:10 saying because i play a main part like i'm not one of them fathers or friends that i want them friends if you call me and like hey bro man my car j's uh on the side of the road oh how much you call what i need to do i need to call the tow truck i'm the friend that a call the tow truck stay on the phone with them an hour if i have to just to make sure you get straight because I want the same in return. And, you know, in the Bible and in just life, they say you give what you get. What you put out is what you get.
Starting point is 00:21:44 And I always try to put out great energy because I expect great energy and great loyalty. Like, I'm one of them people. Like, I'm strict on that shit. Sometimes, like, you know how they say? They wear their heart on their sleeve? I want them kind of people. Like, doing business.
Starting point is 00:22:01 They say don't mix business with PLEP. Don't put your whole. heart in it that shit is impossible i don't care what nobody say right if you serious about your business or your craft your heart definitely got to be in it definitely because just even the ground of coming up of what you're going through of course your heart gonna be in it you know what i'm saying so i'm just one of them people so by me seeing my sister and my girl right there together and i told you like before this shit they used to oh my god bump heads all the time and it was like it took for me to go through this
Starting point is 00:22:35 for them to see like damn now they're best friends like when I tell you this whole because I was in the hospital at 26 days 25 days this whole time they've been just the best of friends like and still is
Starting point is 00:22:50 like now they're gone out somewhere together and it just like for me it was more like damn God got another purpose for me so shit I'm like even though the pain i'm going through all right let's do it whatever i got to go through even now just the pain of you know i can't even use this motherfucker like i can't part like see now i can pick the blunt up
Starting point is 00:23:16 you couldn't do that few days ago yeah no but shit i can't like if i try to do something with it it's gonna fall like but you see on progress and even more every day you know how's your chest in your arm and everything feel though i mean my chair bro it's like Let me show you. I don't know people don't do this. But I don't mind. If you see. Oh shit, it's all bandage up still.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Yeah. My whole chest. And that's just a straight cut right there. Like the way that they get it on their belly button, but you got it right there. Damn, I can see it poking out the side. What the fuck? It's all the way. Like, all the way.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Because they had to get all up in there to fix this shit. Yeah, because they had to open my chest wide open. Jeez. So this part still. like it's still like fucked up like you know we have to change the bandit like we got stick shit in it just to keep the blood and shit flowing the right way and shit like wow so you know if you google clamshell and the surgery that I've been through you'll see it right you can pull that in a little bit more okay shit yeah if you google that you like you google clam shell you'll see
Starting point is 00:24:32 you know what I'm saying because when I was looking back at your older interviews you got shot six times before too right what year was that that was two thousand thirteen right and what was on some street shit me being in the streets okay and nigga tried to rob us gambling you know me gambling in the streets they can't try to rob it and you know I kind of end up buck and getting out of there not knowing they got somebody outside waiting on anybody to run out there really but thank god that was a time what a gun did see saved my life. You know what I'm saying? That was a time where me having my gun on me saved my life. Because you thought you would have got killed in the dice game if you didn't have one?
Starting point is 00:25:15 I mean, once I got out the door, boom, it was like they had some people waiting outside. So soon as they'd never run outside, boom, boom, boom, boom, shots come. So they just start shooting at you? They don't even know what's going on? No, they would. The people. They just assumed you took some money? Oh, so it's like somebody ran in and they were with them. Okay, I got you. I got you. I thought it was like the people running it yeah so like at that time like shit I was like I got it it caught me so I'll go it I end up getting hit then my ankle down there I ain't gonna lie like like I got a rod in my right leg now like my leg was like you know I was straight my shit was like sideways like my shit was like all the way off but that's like 10 years difference and would you say that you had a
Starting point is 00:25:57 very different reaction this time as opposed to that one yeah because that one it was like shit. But you probably could have handed over your shit in that situation too, right? I mean, that situation that's different than being stuck in a car. Yeah, exactly. You don't really have any other option, right? So thank God, even that I got shot six times, it wasn't no
Starting point is 00:26:18 major arteries. It was like, besides my leg, like, I had to have a nerve surgery. Like, they took a nerve from this leg. You know, each leg got three nerves. This lead lost all the nerves. Completely. So the doctor was like, we got to cut this off. Like, that was the first thing he told me and my mom.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Luckily, she was still alive right here with me. And I'm over here nutting up. I'm like, man, cut my leg off. How the hell I'm going to perform? How the hell I'm going to do shows? You know? Because, you know, it was never a time my show ever stops. Even to this day, like, still get $70, $70, $6,000, no matter where I go.
Starting point is 00:27:00 And, uh, they told my mom, like, Like, me and my mom, yeah, we're going to cut his leg off. And they left us in there for like two hours. But my mom was like, no, they're not. God ain't said. So until God said, and you know what? The doctor came back two hours later. He was like, man, we're going to try something that kind of never really been tried.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Like, they removed a nerve from this leg right here. Like, I got a cut from, like, right here all the way up. They had to take a whole nerve out of this. leg and put it in my foot. Wow. So, and they tried some shit, and it worked. Like still today, you see, I can walk great. I can run.
Starting point is 00:27:45 So now I'm working on two, two nerves in this leg and one on this. Wow. When all alone was dead on this side. So, you know, I ain't, you know, I ain't, you know, I ain't unfamiliar with God and his work, you know. Right. But do you feel like you're in a totally different place in your life? like do you think that this kind of situation was not the kind of situation that was going to happen because it feels like you probably chilled out a lot yeah because this situation i'm in a i'm in
Starting point is 00:28:17 this area where you don't see nothing but like koreans right you don't see too many black people and i'm like shit i'm low-key and then i'm watching everything like i do right watching how i move who i talk to who i fought with so hey yeah yeah was definitely like it hit me a lot different you know what I'm saying because I'm more grounded I'm more business-orientated you know what I'm saying I'm getting into newer things like I'm like the I'm a duke with a member I told you King Lee we got like our own situation like coming out with Joe son and I'm in a very important position you know what I'm saying to like six months from that shit I'm gonna have like so much money is crazy like
Starting point is 00:29:07 not seriously for real and uh it was like me I was just preparing my life for the the crossover right and I think God even the point I'm at now I got more money more things more property than I ever had because you know when you first come out we come from the streets like you know when I first came out it was me future and scooter so those were the early days Yeah, like when I first came out, it was like I didn't rap. Like, I didn't rap. You know, me, Future Ashley, name was Meathead at the time. I remember this, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Yeah, his name was Meathead. Because I remember really getting obsessed with Scooter and Future in probably like 2010, 2011. Like, racks on racks, and then I just started listening to All Future's other shit. And then I got into Scooter. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We all started together. Like, you know, the Black Amigo name came when we was.
Starting point is 00:30:01 at one our trap spots like seriously you know how when you're in the streets you get in the bads in and we black necks so we call ourselves black mego right like me and schooter actually came up with this together no like right just the same way we having conversation same way and uh meet head future he always been like my brother like it was times i remember i pulled up on him at rico way house and they'll be in there freestyling and he's He'd be like, man, come rap. I'm like, hell now, man, I ain't no rapper, man. I'm a trapper.
Starting point is 00:30:37 But, you know, future, like, come on, man, he wanted them kind of people. He brain the best out of you. Like, for real, for real, you know, regardless. So they're in that freestyle and so I'm like, man, let me come in. So, you know, when I came, I came with the, dun da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. I'm a trapper. For real.
Starting point is 00:30:57 50 rats on me, done-da-da-da. So it was like, you. Whoa, when he heard it, Rico Wade heard it, it was so new and fresh. They were like, man, you got a rap. I'm like, man, I ain't no rapper, man. I'm getting money in the streets. They're like, man, listen, man, you need to rap. And I never kind of took it serious until like, I just seen like,
Starting point is 00:31:21 like everybody loved Future before he even came out with rats on rats for OIC. Because he had like a street creditor, hey, that nigga dope. and it used to be times like when we first started we'll be in the studio I get stuck on my verse future can't help me finish that motherfucker like you can go Google it
Starting point is 00:31:40 like Black Amigo game Jay Money Future Scooters smashing like that's kind of the first record that kind of put Black Amigo out you feel what I'm saying because I'm getting all this attention how this nigga in Atlanta
Starting point is 00:31:54 how this nigga down in my way so I'm getting a lot of attention from that But I mean, you're looking at young scooters, so that's a pretty obvious example of somebody who was dealing with the transition of the streets to rap, right? Yes, my brother for life, yes. I oftentimes wondered what exactly the separation was for him. It felt like it might have been a little bit blurry. I mean, for scooter, I say on scooter end wise, he just always was addicted to making his money. He always...
Starting point is 00:32:25 I've heard other people say that, too. Yeah, like, even with the rap. it's times where he could have just really like my friend just rap but he you know him he loved he love his niggas he love his street guys who've been with him he want them kind of people like he lawyer to the people that been rocking with him if you been with him and ain't crossed then you're gonna still be with him today and he more or less would care about his money and he was so loyal to the future living and doing the same shit he when he was cool with hey then my boy my boy going right now so I take a step back and help my boy and support my boy.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Like, that's more or less what it was with school. And, you know, his transition still to this day, you still a kid's scooter in places where you can't know all the rappers. You know what I'm saying? And for me, to him, I love for he know how to handle it. But does that worry you? Because, I mean, obviously, we've all been having this conversation after what happened to take off, like, what kind of positions should
Starting point is 00:33:26 rapper a successful multi-millionaire be putting themselves into what what kind of situations are too dangerous and i i'm sure you were kind of thinking of it too when you were talking about dealing with the situation of the dice game i was thinking yeah sounds a lot like takeoff well actually totally different than the takeoff situation since it wasn't getting robbed but you know yeah yeah these environments a lot of crazy shit can happen i mean i think like with takeoff he was in Houston. He was another niggahood. Rocking with another dude.
Starting point is 00:33:58 You know what I'm saying? And everybody like, oh yeah, you got, if you would search and such and such in Houston, you're good. But then you're seeing, even them niggas you good with, sometimes they'll get that jealousy and seeing like, damn, look at how my people paying Kuevo
Starting point is 00:34:14 more attention to me. You know, I felt like, because they said something about him and Jay Prince Jr. was kind of like had argument over some gambling and that whole little couple hours before that they weren't kind of you know how a nigger be with you but probably watch your bat then start like oh who this nigger think he is like this and that and I feel like that played a lot I feel like they're not being in their hood being around
Starting point is 00:34:42 because if you like when you out of town like that like you said it's I'm handling business I'm doing this and I got to get home school are different He's not going to do that. He's not going to be in Houston or out here in these nigh-hookah. Hell not. He's going to be somewhere in Kurt Wood where all his people know
Starting point is 00:35:02 or he's going to be somewhere like at our club and LaCourt. We got a club. Me and my brother can't tell you. We got a club in Atlanta called Club LaCore. It's the hottest club and like Hood Club in the streets. No lie. Like, when you're in Atlanta come to her, you'll love it.
Starting point is 00:35:18 We all, Thursday through Sunday we packed. We, I could pass. Like a thousand people like Thursday through Sunday we packed like 800 people no less than 700 any night So I'm when I say that I'm saying like schood might be somewhere in our hood Pull up he might have out knowing he's safe because he knowing he were good people because me I'm from John brother south zone three Schooler from zone six he from like east Atlanta so you know like I'm from like a lana aligning part he's from east of lano he from east of lano he he one of the ones though he can go on the west side he can go to my side which is on three like so it's a difference
Starting point is 00:35:59 school to got that face code we can go anywhere and you know how aland is we we ain't big on games we big on our area on zones west side south side zone three east side so alon a built different you know what I'm saying definitely but okay so back in the day uh I mean that was a pretty crazy time though, like how close did you stay to future as his career started to explode or like, you know, because it's always weird being friends with a rapper as they start to take off. Because on one hand, you could just go kick it with them all the time and just be there. But then at the same time, you know, you're your own man. You're your own hustler.
Starting point is 00:36:38 You got your own ambitions. And sometimes it can be kind of boring, just kicking it while this guy's doing his thing. And you're just thinking about the moves that you want to make, you know. I mean, because, you know, I popped first. like international because you know I signed a universal 2009 10 okay that early all right okay I was like the first dude out of Atlanta with six seven songs on the radio without a deal you know and uh so it was like it was weird at first because it was like yeah man like we was together
Starting point is 00:37:13 every day me future scooter me future scooter everywhere we go then it was kind of situation where I let young at lay come a part of the black amigo younger late you know he had the ain't that song with tea right and you know he's like don't i be with jay money serving everybody i interviewed him as well yeah yeah that was one of my biggest shout out like yeah yeah because as soon as i hear your name that's the first thing i think of is that bar yep that bar oh if people say the first name last name that too yeah okay so it was like when i pop first it was like boom i'm going places and like you said it might be like yeah man we got this going on too and then it was kind of when I let Young
Starting point is 00:37:53 LA like kind of like you know the black amigo I was doing it from a different standpoint we are street niggas this nigger signed the grand hustle T I and you know around that time T I was like J Z you feel what I'm saying so me I was looking at like damn if I let him in on on black amigo we got this national look but they weren't feeling that shit Like it was kind of like an altercation where they kind of like pressed him at a club by his cell with his people and you know some shit went on between them. So they kind of didn't like that shit. But Scoot was like, yeah, man, we can't be letting anybody. You know, this started with us.
Starting point is 00:38:34 You know, I had to respect that and understand like what he was saying with that. And so once I kind of got on, it was like, future like, yeah, let's do it. So me and a dude named D, we kind of like, you know, I was like, look, man, he wanted to put some money behind me. You know, he was a street dude. And I was like, look, man, you got to be able to do something for me that I can't do for myself. That's how the first, like, with the Maserati, you know, the Breitler Watch, two chains. I wanted 50K cash from him. And, you know, he was just like a sub dude that, you know, invested in some shit.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And, uh, because I already had the shit. I had like three songs, four songs, radio with nobody, no help, no team. So he kind of came in and like on some management shit and helped take my shit, put it on the radio. He knew how to work the radio. So I was like, shit, I told him, like, look, man, I got, look, I'm hot, I'm that dude, but that nigger, nigger is my partner.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Future, like, but at the time I think he was like, meathead still. I don't know if it was future because we switched over. And, uh, he was like, okay. let me check him out check them out he's like yeah nina dope then he end up finding that future was signed to rocko right and just so happened the dude that i'm telling you about he was real good friends of rocko like he was kind of dude that rocko would give him a good number when he was super hot and he'll book rock oh like around like the southeast area and they had built their own
Starting point is 00:40:11 relationship so he was like shit man i'm you know i live by loyalty he was like you know i live by loyalty like you know roco that's my man i can't go behind his back like trying to sign his artist and it's my boy so i think at that time future kind of like felt the certain kind of way like you know like damn bro you took off i was helping you write your shit finish your shit but i'm telling him like look bro we're friend like you see i even turned you on to the dude But I can't make him sign you. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:51 And it was just like, that put like a little static in our friendship. Mm-hmm. And I ain't gonna lie, man. It was like, shit. Then he popped maybe a year later with rats on rats, a year and a half later. And then just mad songs after that.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Mad songs out there. More crazy. Oh, he'd a goat. He'd been it before. Like, I thank God I seen it before anybody's seen it. How many niggas that seen it? How many niggas that say they that nigger would tell you that another they used to write
Starting point is 00:41:19 to finish their verses? I'm telling you that. And people look at me as the sauce god, that nigger, that guy. And before I got to where I'm at, now with it, he used to finish my, he used to help me, like, he would never just do it because he wanted me to learn. So he'll, like, start it off for,
Starting point is 00:41:40 hey, look, you should say this right here, say this, or help me with a bar. Because, you know, any rapper know, sometimes it might be just that one bar you need to help you finish the whole shit and but after that basis loaded situation after like you know the rats on rats it was like oh okay I'm gone now I don't need but what I shit I'm gone so it's probably like shit maybe five years six years that we actually got like our relationship back going really and what prompted that I mean scooter always my like me and
Starting point is 00:42:19 Scooter never stopped ever like it was still the same and then you know all his people like Ty the boy G like all these still with my people you know what I saying like so back in the day when so scooter was like signed the future right never signed to so he wasn't signed to him but then scooter signed to Gucci right in the day scooter was the one had the budget right and he the one was kind of His dude, Ty, he kind of was helping put money behind all of us, me, Scooter, and Future. Okay. But do you know if he, like, signed to Gucci?
Starting point is 00:42:55 It never was a sign. Because at that time, Gucci was just doing, like, one-off mixtapes with people type shit, right? Yeah, see, people didn't know. Remember when Gucci was like, I'm signing Dolph, Scooter, Pee-Wee Long Way. So many legends came up at that time. Yes. Thug. All that shit was at one time.
Starting point is 00:43:14 It's the same. when you look back on it. Yeah, like, Gucci's seen it. And that's why Gucci's so determined to make his label hot now is because he had all these things like OJ, Waka, that they all pop, but he didn't necessarily get to sign him
Starting point is 00:43:28 the way he wanted to sign him. So he went back, when he went on his own, he had Jose Guapo, got damn, Pee-Wee-Longway, scooter, Dolf, Dahl actually gave his money back. Like, nah, seriously. Yeah, you know, Daw, my man, my main, man. like you can google it like daff my main man like Gucci had got thanked doth like 150 but people don't know the money that Gucci was giving everybody it was QCP oh really but see P at that time was just
Starting point is 00:44:01 street nigger getting out the streets crossing over and he actually made Gucci from a video shoot that we did like P had an artist before any of this shit called Dirty day and P was putting money behind dirty day so people like hey man how much you think Gucci had charged us to get on the verse but with my artists so I'm like shit I call walk he gonna do whatever for him you know at this time they won't go up losing his phone because it was like 2011 12 when Gucci was going through his period of time he was going through his phones you can't really contact though only person getting in contact with him was they took so I was shit I got
Starting point is 00:44:44 him. So I think Gucci at this time he needed the money because he was on his grind. So I think Gucci charged him like, you know, a good number for two videos and two verses. So, because if you pull up dirty day right now, you're going to see he got two songs with Gucci Man. And, uh, QCP actually paid for that. Like, QCP always seen, like, different because I don't know if you know the history, like, me and he was like best friends. Like, we came up. Yeah, we came up under the same dude big. like big and kentay like so it was like me and p was like real cool like i remember when p invested in like some apartments and i'm like what they're you doing bro like these regular apartments
Starting point is 00:45:27 but now if you look at the apartments they brand-ass new condos you know what i'm saying so uh but that's how he made Gucci and from buying a verses from his artists then after that like Gucci kind of kept his in contact because you gotta think when they come spending 50, 60,000 with you. Shit, I'm gonna keep this dude around. Like, especially on those times as an artist. Like, when we find somebody, he won 1,000, he's real. He willing to invest and spend money like that.
Starting point is 00:45:56 I don't get fucked what artist is there. He's going to try to keep that dude around. And him and Gucci just kept a relationship, no life, for like six, seven years. Just even from him talking on the phone. And so when Gucci had this idea, and P was like, let's do it. on my mama P was the one putting all the money up yeah swear to God like to sign all the artists but it was a partnership him and Gucci had because I told you like Gucci was so 1,000 like Gucci if you fuck with him and you real he locked in which because a lot of people
Starting point is 00:46:29 say a lot of slime shit back walk but he ain't one of people the number one question I always want to ask Gooder is why on the one song on its tape he said I'll probably never do another song with Gucci, man. I want to know where that went wrong. Now, you know, sometimes in the street, people don't see eye to eye. I could imagine that they both got their tempers, personalities, whatever you want to call it. And it came at that point, like, Scooter, he's so real, he's just going to say whatever he feels. Like, if you see it, you know what I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:03 But still to the day, they got no beef, no problems. Like, what? When he came back home, he was just a whole other person. It's true, yeah. Like, he was just, it's like, you know how some people, they got to keep going to jail, keep going to jail. It's like that jail trip for him, made him so focused.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Man, I'm telling you, I remember times Gouac used to pull up at my house. I had an East of Lano, Rupert Road. He'll pull up six, five, six in the morning, fall asleep on my couch. Gucci to tight, he'll go pull up at Blazing Saddle by itself. Like, it's a store where Shod and Red was in there, and Guat was in there.
Starting point is 00:47:40 by himself at uh blaze and you know that's still in my hood zone three and so you know we's super deep in up and uh goo guz goo you had the song with coojo uh i can't think of the fucking name tron knocking i think trump knocking or something like that but it was a classic song shod red did the beat but guac you know red if you get a nigger a cd i'm for the rap on this motherfucker so now you know shot of red was playing this bmf g zero he got on the mic because gochua was playing that shit in the club and blaze and they people fucking with it so shot of red go get the mic oh man he nigger these nigger rapping on my beats and ain't paying me da da da da da da da da da da da
Starting point is 00:48:24 i just hear wapper in the bat like little swear to god on my mama like this nigger like man i see him leaving out but he wasn't leaving out to run he was leave him out to go get a pilster from the car and take it back in the club I'm like hell now what hell no bro you got too much going on but you that one brus stop it like you know I'm screeked trapper at this time when he ain't thinking about no rap so niggins what was my just rapper friend like I bought him around kentay bought him to the whole introduce him to the zone three because he still was an east of lena nigger too and you know east of lena zone three west side they kind of like okay if you ain't from my area you ain't coming around
Starting point is 00:49:04 like that but I like but I ain't gonna lie what was always that nigga that you ain't gonna play with his name like swear to God always always so between him and the scooter it is never no like beef like now it probably was the time scooter he was mad and he gonna say what he say like that niggins 1,000 he gonna say what's on it's funny because if you compare the way the P and coach K are is that I mean you never you almost never have heard them like bad mouth the artists they they stay very low key they'll put out a statement here and there but for the most part i mean they really like don't play the front like that you see them places but you don't see them talking on social media and shit whereas on the
Starting point is 00:49:49 other hand Gucci like just the other day i was interviewing an artist that uh basically the Gucci had hit him up trying to sign him and he he responded like yo i'm not really trying to sign to another artist but you should sign my homeboy though so Gucci blocked him and then that was that was like a cheese post like it's just but see Gucci 1,000 like that like Gucci been that bro when I tell you like before he had all the jury and he always like man any guy I see to me Jay this and that when I got done because if you look a lot of people thought I came out under Gucci when I first came out because you know we had like five six songs together it's still on the internet right now if you type in
Starting point is 00:50:28 Gucci man Jay Munner five or six songs gonna pop up fast like I can say one with me Walker him and Shauna uh uh uh fucking lost my mind uh my mind gone with drama boy like we just got records together like this is my brother so a lot of people thought like oh he put me out or i came up under him nah he was just my friend because you know i always were having my way anyway you know what I'm saying but he was that guy that knew it bro like before he had the ice before he had any of that shit that nigga 1,000% just been knew he was Superman.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Like, before the money, before the fame, fang. Right. So him, he's just going to be him, bro. Like, so they don't surprise me. P, he more to, see, P. live off street code. Don't say too much. Gucci's been a famous entertainer for like 15 years, 20 years, whatever. He's just going to do what he feels.
Starting point is 00:51:29 But still, Gucci live our street code, too, in another way. Right. Like Pimo like laid back like okay. I ain't fin to say that because I ain't gonna lie. Pete was the gangster. Like, niggas don't know. P was like real. He's still a gangster this day.
Starting point is 00:51:45 But Pee was the gangsters. That's why if you see him now, if he don't know you or the vibe here, you like you're thinking like, damn, they ain't gonna fuck with this dude right here. He still was that in the streets before anything. He was like every nigga, like even my partner, Big. I ain't saying Big needed that, but. being wanted some solid street shooters they're gonna do what they do around him that's how peeve and like peeves around him you know what i'm saying like so peter tight here fall back he ain't gonna say
Starting point is 00:52:13 much because you know in the streets if you really got a problem with some or anything you're not gonna talk about it why the fuck i'm gonna talk about it and indict myself if something happened to this person i'm the first person y'all gonna come to but if i sit back on say now y'all can't commit me to nothing like i don't know what nah man now we had great relationship you know it's almost to happen so my appeal of them street coes and Gucci just live oh see fuck you you trying to you tried me I come to try to sign you then you say I need to sign you say hold on one to sign no other that's what I told him I'm like I'm not surprised the Gucci Reacted like
Starting point is 00:52:51 that I mean guess what maybe I would have did the same thing right yeah I'm Gucci man nigga I'm coming to you trying to turn you up but you gonna say I I don't sign the artist, but you should sign my home, but like, what? Look at it in his position. Yeah. How a nigga coming at him. I think I might do the same thing, bloc. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:13 So. What about the other dude who, uh, he tweeted about how he, he wasn't fucking with Houston. Oh, my God. And Gucci had to let him go right away. Listen, bro. I'm telling you, that why I said Gucci do live by a certain street code. Yeah. Because it like
Starting point is 00:53:31 That was just unacceptable to him. You do some suck and shit. Oh, now, you can't even be affiliated with my name. See, if you look at every artist that Gucci sign, they kind of got like a little street created. Well, that's his whole problem is that so many of them keep getting locked up. And you know what? And I think he's seeing that now.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Because it's like, but him, that's the cold he lived by. Like, I'm telling you, if you ain't gangster or in the streets, I don't care how good you can rap. I mean, but that's also kind of the thing with like, like where rap is at right now in general. Like, there's a reason why Poo Shisty popped off because he was saying some crazy-ass street shit and it seemed very, very believable.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Yeah, for sure. And it kind of like, so that was like, okay, this is a good look for Gucci because he got the artist that rapping on the same shit he on that he came out on. They sounded good together. Yeah, for sure. Even the boy Fu.
Starting point is 00:54:22 When Fu came out, you seen like, like, I ain't no rapper. That song he had with a little baby. and he was kicking the same shit. He signed hooders Pablo. He got a Rico. Exactly. Even though they broke up before that, I think.
Starting point is 00:54:36 What about the boy Bixcar? He got the young nigga Bitscar. Like walked out. Like all of them kind of got like that street. I fuck you up mentality. But that's a gift and a curse. Because these n'n't getting locked up. These nigger playing their self.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Really, man. Give me one of the... Because right now it ain't about street creditor how hard they is. the world don't care about that it sucks though because it's like push I see on one hand it would be great to see him not
Starting point is 00:55:03 be having to do this time but on the other hand when you look at how he was living bro you would have had to have a whole army of fucking label employees or whatever around him to be stopping him from living the life that he felt like living and it probably just wouldn't have worked he probably would have said fuck y'all
Starting point is 00:55:18 I'm going off in my Lambo with my Draco I'm not hearing shit I'm gonna just do me yeah for sure so like it's a gift and a curse You look at it now, ooze and vert ain't got them committing crimes and look at Playboy Cardi. He came out a whole different way and I look at him. He's gone.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Yeah, but at the same time, there's only so many artists that can get by on being like creative and artistic and stuff. Whereas the street rapper thing, you see a lot more rappers get something going with the street rapper shit. Yeah, but don't go too far. Yeah, it's got a ceiling. When you just dead. So I feel like if you're an artist like us, that came from the streets like even look at p certain shit he'll be like shit he tried different shit and he'll scream dude o g macko right bitch you guessed it yadi yadi yadi when yadi pulled up with
Starting point is 00:56:11 coach k for his first interview my mom was blown because i thought that coach k was only dealing with migos and skip of the flipper and all this shit you know yeah yeah yeah they had macko but like i I didn't know he was gonna go full Yadi with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm telling you, but look at it, he made a lot of money with that. Yeah. Even Yadda helped, like, the shit he helped with the city girls.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Mm-hmm. Like, it became, like, I'd rather have an artist like Yadi than an artist like Poo Shihistee. Right. I rather have one like, ooh's avert. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like, I ain't got a deal. And me, I come from the streets.
Starting point is 00:56:50 So I know, like, okay. Now, I ain't saying it ain't some street rappers that won't go because, you know, I'm front of streets and I want to see every street nigga make it. Like, they can feed their family. I don't hate on you. I remember saying that to Coach K. I'm like, after managing Gucci, managing Yadi, who at the time, he's totally sober. He's managing geez at first. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:13 But he's 16 years old. He's like not really like, you know, he's kicking it with girls, but not on some crazy shit. Run around with a million girls. You're not doing drugs. It must be a fucking walk in the park manager. that kind of artist in comparison to somebody who's out here just running around doing crazy shit listen to you yeah like i don't want no i can't sign anybody invest my money well we're gonna bump heads or you feel like you most screeed to me you know what i'm saying i want i want to
Starting point is 00:57:38 sign that art they're gonna listen to me respectful and actually be thankful this opportunity so that's kind of what p was looking and you still don't get me wrong if i see a street dude he got trap music he's talking about this and that but his mindset on like hey bro I'm thinking bigger than that shit because you got a lot of dudes in the street that ain't just like oh yeah but I'm gotta be push ice to shoot you up hell no you got song that gonna rap that gangster shit like money bad yo look him for instance uh who else little baby he the most street as you can get I can't lie this like this the same like that's how him and P they came up together like P been
Starting point is 00:58:20 knowing Dominique like he been knowing him because a dude big and can't tell him like he been knowing Dominique like been knowing so it was like when he started rapping they picked baby the rap baby didn't want to rap like he was he was good with making his money Atlanta's this weird place where you could be a famous drug dealer way before you're a famous rapper yeah for sure like that's kind of how my shit happened a lot of times that would kind of happened with my shit you know my first record was trap of the year with shout a low you can't claim you to trap out of the year and the lounge and it worked right and you're not that you know
Starting point is 00:58:55 what I'm saying so like that's how I came out so and little baby his shit was like identical like he asked was a street dude making money knowing niggas on not just in his hood but it never up the hood so it was like shit try this shit then when he tried it it start working instant like his first or second song go out trying to sign him like so you got to think about it like it's like I ain't saying you can't sign a street travel because I got like a my young dude shooter meet the shooter like he dope and but he understand like he moved different he don't move just like oh I'm gonna shoot you up bang bang not saying you can disrespect or try him he gonna fight your ass up but air artists should I'm no I don't want to
Starting point is 00:59:44 sign the arts that don't know when it's a time and place for that type shit right because it's like So I'm not saying I wouldn't sign no street artists because if you smart and your mindset the right way I'm gonna fuck with you. Who shi-stuh was still you know young coming up. Then he got this money like dangerous. Goochie probably always would tell him like look man you got a cool life But for him he young Memphis nigger with this paper Got these real shooters with him shit this nigger that's how he felt
Starting point is 01:00:16 Yeah, like remember that some place he's he's he's just came and pulled out a gun and like what the hell the video at him in the club with like oh my god all that money hanging out of his pocket he got a gun on him in the club performing oh my god that was the most dumb and move ever he needs some people around real street they gonna kind of make the mistakes yeah if i got all y'all niggas around me man y'all niggas holding the gun y'all watching my bet if he had coach k or p lurking backstage as his manager they wouldn't be let that go for that no but see You know, and I ain't saying,
Starting point is 01:00:49 it's not like Gucci was even there or anything, but just in general. Yeah. And I mean, even Gucci, he ain't kind of, he probably was telling him over and over, but Gucci didn't have the time to just, like, be right there with him and watch his every move. Because if he, every time he's around walk,
Starting point is 01:01:05 I don't seen it before, like, every time he's around walk, he's a different person. He's like, shit, I'm with my big home in there. I'm learning. So he was way, like, if Wap had the time just be there, Poochais would have never made a lot of mistakes. That's the challenge when you sign a rapper is do you want to sign a rapper and, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:25 give him a chain and do some songs with them and fuck with them, going to tour with them a little bit? Or do you want to just be with them like every day really trying to micromanage everything? Because Gucci could do both. Yeah. But at the same time, he got his own careers, his own artist, he got all these other artists.
Starting point is 01:01:41 How much time is you really going to be able to put in? It ain't that much you feel, what I'm saying? Yeah. Because I think he had food at that time. he had this so it was kind of up to the artist to have that mindset of like I got this opportunity I came from the hood I just made it out the hood why the fuck am I acting like I'm still in the hood it's like you worse enough so and I told you that's like a and I can't blame him neither because you're young nigga coming from the streets you ain't never had this type of money nobody taught us what to do
Starting point is 01:02:11 when we get this money nobody taught us like hey man you got to invest in this and this and this and that you know because I ain't gonna lie bro it were times in my career where I had millions and millions of dollars and then it were times where I fucked up a lot because I didn't have nobody right here I had my big homies like Kentay bitch twine there listen they'll tell me like hey man you need to be doing this hey man you need to be da da da da and me and my mind said still like man I got this like you know I got myself kinda here where I met so shit because you know I invested myself like from junk nobody put a dime behind me like to get a
Starting point is 01:02:46 name for myself in the street nobody so like i felt like once i got to that point like shit i got it i got this figured out so i probably didn't listen to my big homies you know what i'm saying that why i say i can't blame him is what we come from and then we get that type of money that's a different it's a different from having a hundred thousand because in a hundred thousand in streets i'm rich you feel what i'm saying i'm a street nigger i got a hundred thousand i can damn that do the same thing of rapo doing but pusha you see could make a hundred thousand in a day in a day when he was at his prime there you know for sure for sure so for me seeing that i'm like damn like actual video him pulling the gun out i'm like damn bro that was like as a street
Starting point is 01:03:30 dude still even at that point i never would have did because i had people behind me and with me that's gonna hold a gun yeah see like now knowing everything i know about life i realize that if you all of a sudden find yourself in an opportunity where you can make that that much money you need to do everything possible to make sure that you can continue to keep making that amount of money in terms of keeping weird people away from you, keeping security around you, making sure that you don't end up in weird situations where weird shit could happen. It's just you got to value that opportunity once you become a poppin artist because in reality for most artists, this is not going to last more than a couple of years. Yeah, and you got to move right. And you got to, yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:10 like you said, only a couple of years it lets you special. Right. Because you know the special one they last forever for real. But we've seen a lot of special ones get their career cut short because they were moving around either just bad luck or they were putting themselves in crazy situations. Yeah, yeah. Even or having the wrong people around like
Starting point is 01:04:28 I seen the painting the ex how you said, man. Yeah, XXXXENT Santoshion. Yeah, uh-huh. Him super talented, super big-a-fam fan base. I mean, that was one where it was honestly just him being young and arrogant and not going with security
Starting point is 01:04:44 and going with $45,000 in cash to the spot. Honestly, it's like he did move around with security all the time, but he didn't like feeling like he was having his style cramp. So he's all of a sudden just having mad money in this dealership and a part of town with his shady ass robbers around. Yeah, with no security at them time. Yeah. And everybody afterwards, like, you know, talking to his mom
Starting point is 01:05:05 and she's just like, yeah, I wish, I just wish he had called and got a security guard that day. But he was, you know, you're young and rich. You don't want to fucking wait around. And then some of the people you have around you, Oh bro, you doing it? And you know, what happened is a lot of these rappers start thinking when they get famous or get this, I got to uphold an image.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Man, hell no, ain't. Nothing wrong with having, boy, you got paper, boy, you ain't coming from the street. Your main focus is staying safe. Like, when you're getting money, that's like you're getting in the street. When you're getting good money and you're having a good situation, man, you ain't looking for no pros. You know, if it comes your way, you're going to handle it, but you're not looking for no pros, man, at all.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Like you said, once you're going to. you get to a place in life where you're at you like man I just try to stay safe so I can keep what I got going on so a lot of people would be down like you said young and there didn't think at that point so but all that shit is like you said that's why it I feel like it should be more big homies more rappers instead of trying to compete with the younger nigger that's popping why don't they embrace them and give them the game like hey look man such a said like Kodat man Kodat talk all the time Like you know I motivate him like I don't know if you heard of Bobby Fish Gale but he out of Florida super hot right like me and him like brothers like we give each other
Starting point is 01:06:22 game even little me go even the shit that's going on they say about him great dude fuck with him even him he the type he he he called and won't gang like hey j money such even baby when baby came in like he asked me like j man you had the world on you this and that he like man what mistakes so you could say you I made, baby asked me this shit, like, what mistakes you feel like you made or this and that and get what I tell them.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Sometimes taking this shit for granted. But how did you feel when you saw that little Migo situation in the news recently? As a rapper, all of a sudden you could just find yourself in situations. I just feel like, soon that buddy said,
Starting point is 01:07:05 you little Migo, and Migo, like, man, you're crazy. Soon the buddy said, man, should beat your ass I think he probably went on the right then and there even in the airport where you're gonna get arrested yeah yeah element of surprise because at end of down still a man and how much time fighting gonna get me right ain't like I shot you right but I'd rather respect my manhood and just a man then what happened look what happened now it's like there's gonna be a lot of people like
Starting point is 01:07:41 trying to question it just because of that one incident but you don't know me go probably in his mind like man I ain't man they got one half on you know what I'm saying so his eye he like man that niggibut man ain't playing the niggin the airport as soon as I walk out the airport I'm gonna get his ad you know what I'm saying so that could have been on me go mine because I know I don't been around him bro he ain't like he going out bad like that you know what I'm saying so had that be something where he's like shit but i'm waiting i get outside the airport yeah even for him to walk behind him there's a tough situation when you're like a rapper because it's like you just it's all
Starting point is 01:08:25 about saving face for the video right like if that video didn't exist like try to imagine that exact same situation in 1990 yeah without instagram we would never have fucking heard about it and if somebody was talking about it we would all be like you can't believe you don't know yeah and you need to go back to and go back to like 2000 when it was just Twitter yeah 2005 and shit like that 2007 8 right when it wasn't over my space if it was just a story it wouldn't be that viral but because there's a video everybody's and it's called instant instant that shit happened right then and there I got your ad all right so I don't have that much time left but I wanted to ask also so like what
Starting point is 01:09:04 how would you describe the the different businesses that you have your hand in right now I mean pause with the Joe sign project this shit like can take over the world bro like we got like a lot of crypto shit going on what we're doing we got the business shelves.com like and you know as me as myself like i got two carpet cleaning businesses that i that i'm doing in Atlanta and i ain't gonna lie with the carpet cleaning it's like man it's been a blessing you know and then the club with my brother to venture with my brother can't say that shit helps a lot too because you know like we the most popping this club in the hood and you know that club manager like street
Starting point is 01:09:45 money a little bit it comes fast it's like shit it's like you buying a dog at the club you stand at my dough spending 40 and 50 to get in so it's almost like the same I'm selling entertainment just paying rent yeah and we're trapping entertainment and a bunch of other expenses but yeah we're trapping entertainment now we can't get locked up for this we trap it's like a it's still everything I look at it, look at it, if you go at it as a, like, one thing I respect by Big and my brother Kentay, really just Kentay. Everything he do, he military-minded with. And, you know, I'm like, that's like my idol, like, and he's a street dude. But everybody knows, like, I look up to
Starting point is 01:10:27 Kentate, like, Kentay the one gave me the game. Kentay the one put me on, you know. Kentay was the reason how Jay Money could be Jay Money, trap out of the year in the streets. but everything he do military-minded from when we was in the streets doing what we were doing to the club to he got real estate we got he got fucking studios like everything he do he do it just like we're doing the truck like military mind don't play no game you my friend but about this money we're on play and be debt serious about the money so that taught me a lot you know what I'm saying even though I'm still the one that I trust people faster than him I let people around me faster than him to try to help him he ain't let too many people even get close to him so I could say
Starting point is 01:11:18 that was kind of the difference between me and him you know what I'm saying yeah definitely well I mean I'm just glad that you're feeling decent at this point yeah man I had you know what a lot of people kept him I brought up helping pro up and I was like Man, I ain't, no, man, no. Even some names I can say to, you know, I don't want to, you know what I'm saying, say. But there's some people that, you know, they got their fan base, they're straight.
Starting point is 01:11:46 You know, but I want to fuck with you. I like the way you rock, you real. The streets rock with you. I'm like, I've seen a lot of people try to, you know, say shit. I'm like, no. Nigga, I actually watch your shit all the time. Yeah, you subscribed? Yeah, what?
Starting point is 01:12:01 Yeah. I'm telling you, like. comment and subscribe guys bro you want them people that I go on that bitch just a look on your page hey not for real bro I ain't lying to you I appreciate like I like because I don't like Instagram I don't like just watching people I feel like near y'allpo be watching me I noticed even I was like damn my look down there today I was like damn they post like what 15 times I'm like damn 10 of them by gone of snitching and I'm like damn there's hard like that's because y'all
Starting point is 01:12:34 catch the hot topic and catch what y'all gotta catch that's what I respect about no jump but I want to see that shit too so I was like I seen it there like I ain't have to go to I don't go to the shade rooms I don't know nothing about all that my girl do that yeah you find out about a lot of different people on shade room I don't go there because I don't care about all that yeah I just like what's in my area in my arena right like they're just like a baseball player if they spend too much time worry about rap they ain't gonna be the best baseball player. I was around a bunch of girls the other day and I said something about the
Starting point is 01:13:09 Shade Room and none of them knew what I was talking about it and I was just like, oh, all right. I'm like, I just forgot what audience I was in front of here. Yeah, it's a good feeling too. That's a real good feeling. That's why when I seen it, I was like, like my girl to tell you, bro, I just watched no jump on Instagram and I might go look at my ass, but I don't need too much fault with that shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:31 That's crazy. I appreciate you coming through though. No, man, anytime, man. I want you, hey, listen, man, I'm a real one, man. I need you to be on me out of my fault with you. Oh, I want you to fuck with me, man. Let me know. I feel like you might have a personality as a podcaster.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Yeah, no, for real. You ever thought about it? A lot of people ask me about it. A lot of people, like, like, if you see my interview with 85 South Show, like you see, we went viral, like six million on Facebook. Yeah. Like two million on YouTube. They're huge.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Yeah, like, super huge. Yeah, yeah. So I ain't gonna lie, bro. I will fuck with some shit like this. Now I'm seeing that how Noriega, how fucking even gill of the kid. Like he never had the biggest name in rap, but he always was controversial. Reinvented himself through podcasts. I love you.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Even Joe buddy. Yeah. Like so, yeah, I fought with this shit, but mine is just, I do it with no jumping. It just have to stand for something. Trap tradition or some shit like that. Let's think about it. Let's do it. Appreciate it, man.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Jay Monny. I'm glad you're in good health. Thank you, brother. Thank God. Take care of yourself, man. I want to thank God for all my family. I don't call them fans because y'all are my friends and my support system that prayed for me, especially my sister, caller, my girl Blue, my brother, shooter, Kevin, King Lee, go to TV.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Like, Black boy, it was just a lot of people that showed me so much love and support and was right there for me, man. And I wouldn't thank God for them too. And you too, man. Like, you keeping me going. I appreciate I seen the post. Like, shit, did, like, 62K, some 70,000. I'm like, damn, okay.
Starting point is 01:15:14 You got the end of... Bousie, if you see, Bousie kept posting it. Really? Yeah, he posted, like, three times on his page. The mama something paid. You know, he'll have 10 Instagram. Right. I'm like, I wonder if I'm following his latest Instagram.
Starting point is 01:15:26 It's like mama, some shit like that. They did my boy wrong. Yeah, man. Let Boosie rock. Give him at Boosy. Yeah, bro. What are you talking about? Yeah, bro, because they don't give him his prop, man.
Starting point is 01:15:36 That niggis, his mama here live again. Yeah. Zuckerberg trying to take them down. I got to follow that. But, y'all, I appreciate you, man. Thank you so much. I appreciate you, too, Adam. So, Jay Money, No Jumper, coolest podcast on world.
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