No Jumper - J Prince Jr's 1st Interview: 6ix9ine drama, his Father's Legacy, Almighty Jay's Chain and more!

Episode Date: August 25, 2019

J Prince Jr is the son of the legendary J Prince, founder of the Rap A Lot Records imprint. He's been in the public eye many times over the years but hasn't done a full interview until today. We got him in the studio and he proceeded to fill us in on who he is, what he's done and much more. Enjoy! 1:24 Childhood, Growing up in Rap-A-Lot as J Prince’s Son 4:00 Living up to his father and Prince Family legacy 8:00 Entrepreneurial spirit 10:15 First time realizing his father’s respect and power 10:48 Wanting to become an artist growing up 11:25 Being from Houston. Impact on life 12:28 Going back to the hood. Never forgetting your roots 18:10Current Rap-A-Lot Records roster 19:10 Almighty Jay’s chain. Old School vs New School street mentality. 21:20 Handling 6ix9ine drama 24:08 Water dumping pranks 25:10 Thoughts on pressed ecstasy pills with Rap-A-Lot logos 26:15 Never experiencing drugs 27:00 Relationship with Pimp C and Bun B 28:10 Thoughts on Bushwick Bill, Gets Boys relationship 30:09 Mob Ties 31:45 Family ties with Drake 32:43 Middle man between Drake and Meek Mill during beef 34:35 Not doing interviews. Controlling own narrative. 36:45 Rejecting Love & Hip-Hop 39:50 “Megan the Staillion is the coldest female in the game” 42:15 Old Town Road takeover. Hip-Hop x Country movement 43:25 Mob Ties Compilation album with London on da Track FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://spoti.fi/2vi9lsD CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper and iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 and follow us on Social Media: http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm follow Adam22 as well: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and follow adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dude, no jumper coolest podcast in the world. Jay Prince Jr. in the building. I can't believe it. Oh, yeah, it's up. Why did you decide to finally do an interview now, I guess is the main question? Because I'm sure that there's been many different times in your life where people have been hounding you trying to get you on camera and shit. I didn't realize actually how important this interview was until I went to do my research for it.

And I started to Jay Prince Jr. interview and came up with pretty much nothing on YouTube. Yeah, I don't spread myself after too many people. Mm. And this is a situation. where I feel like we both could benefit each other. You did what I'm saying? You've been grinding, you've been doing your things. So I'm gonna give you this first exclusive.

I appreciate that. Yeah, I was thinking about a lot today. I'm like, you know, the real reason I started doing a podcast was really just to try to meet people. And then like once you really start meeting people, you start, and I mean, I was thinking about this a lot too because I was just reading a lot about you and your pops and everything.

And I was just thinking like shit really at the end of the day is all about respect. And if you can, if you could use a podcast as a route to meet people and show people, like, that you never would have thought that you would be able to interact with, that you're respecting of their culture and what they've done in their lives. That's like best case scenario for me. So I really appreciate it.

I appreciate being up. Yeah. For the people out there, let's talk a little bit about your upbringing because I feel like at least part of why people are so fascinated by you is because they see the enormity of rap a lot and everything that your father accomplished and shit. And people probably are just so fascinated by the idea of growing up in that environment. So talk to me a little bit about that.

I mean, we come from the school of hard nights. Like, something that I value about my family and my upbringing is the respect. Like, that's something that we demand it. It's something that we live and die by. So I can't compare my upbringing to others because I come from a different type of clover. Do you know what I'm saying? Like our structure, our values, our order, are different than this new generation of stuff that's going on. We come up under the old, so, I mean, it's just that.

Right. But so as a kid, take me through, like, when did you sort of realize what you had been born into in terms of just being part of something so respected and something that was like so out in front of people's minds and that people like held, held that with such a revered look? Like, when did you really start to realize the enormity of that? I mean, it's like when you are accustomed to certain things, you don't pay attention to things or look at things from the perspective that everybody else look at them from. So I knew my family was respected. I knew the values, but it took me to become an adult or man to be able to understand it fully. So, man, that's just that, man.

Yeah. I mean, you were surrounded by a lot of legendary hip-hop from day. want. And did it take you a period of time to sort of realize that? I mean, like I said, when I got older. Like, I remember being in a studio with Dr. Dre Right. Pock and everybody, but I didn't value that at that time because my mind stayed wasn't it. Just regular shit, you don't know. Yeah, it was just something I was accustomed to already. It'd be like me seeing Dr. Dre on TV, but you were just in the studio on some regular shit. Yeah, I was accustomed to it already. So this is what I thought was ordinary.

But as I got older, I realized, okay, hold on. it's a different type of movement. I got to understanding things and looking at things from a different perspective than I was accustomed to and making sure that I value would need to be valued so that we can keep our legacy going

in a manner that it needs to be. Right. But I mean, do you feel like you've always been a little bit, you've always had a different sense of like wanting to prove yourself because most people are really not coming from anything. You're coming from a lot and you probably have known that for a long time. Do you think that that instill the story?

spirit in you that was like, I got to really prove myself because I got a lot to live up to. Yeah, without a doubt, without a doubt. And it's not necessarily proving yourself because there's no competition when it comes to family. So it's not necessarily proving yourself. It's just making yourself an asset and bringing something to the table to where we all can eat off of, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to use the proving yourself words because what's understood ain't got to be explained. We know who you are. We're. We know who you are. We're know we man. You know what I'm saying? So it wasn't a situation where I wanted to prove myself, but I wanted to prove my value. I wanted to bring something to the table to help the family

be bigger and better than what it is. Yeah, definitely. What kind of, oh, actually, also introduce us to your friend real quick. I'm going to let them introduce yourself. See, Jay, the great, straight out of Houston. Yeah. Side West Side, we're different sides of town, but, you know, respect, man, go a long way. Definitely. I mean, so that's what really, you know, brought us together with this journey, you know what I'm saying? I'm just grateful to be here on some real nitty shit. Right. I'm saying like super grateful. In what capacity do you guys work together? He's an order. Right. One of the hottest orders coming out the city. Yeah, everybody going to hear about them real soon. Yeah, we're doing business together.

You know, we had to make a legendary approach. This first interview, so I had to pull up to you feel me? Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, they'll pay attention a little more now. Yeah. I mean, you guys both got something in common. You got an enormous amount of joy around both of your Damn right. This light's ripped the thing. There's light today. Yeah, it's light today. Yeah, it's light.

It ain't nothing lighter than a old tie-dye t-shirt. Hey, hey, go with your wiggum. You gotta do what you know. Go with you wiggle. Oh, man, that's funny. So, but in terms of, how would you describe what you're doing for him though? Do you describe yourself as a manager? Nah.

I ain't been in the business business. We used to own this shit. You know what I'm saying? But at the same time, you know, we working together. Let him know what you got going on there. Yeah, man. So basically, you know what I'm saying? Like I said, respect go a long way.

You know what I mean? We're just doing shit different. You know what I'm saying? You want different results. You got to do shit different, you know what I'm saying? That's why I used the word grateful, you know what I'm saying? Because he actually has somewhere to be, you know what I'm saying, today. And I mean, so for him to be here, this was his choice.

You know what I'm saying? So he had somewhere to be like for real, for real. You know what I'm saying? So that's what I mean by respect. You know, we kind of been rocking out for a minute, like a minute minute. We ain't really exchanged words over the years, but it was kind of, I see what's going on. It was like I said, a mutual respect, you know what I'm saying, from him and from me, you know what I'm saying? We're here today.

You know what I'm saying? It's just beautiful. Definitely. Beautiful. So yeah, when you say somewhere to be, yeah, spoiler that I don't think you're making your 530 flight. It's over with it. It ain't happened. What are you out here for otherwise?

Because you got in last night. I didn't last night. I'm looking at your Instagram story. It looks like you got in about 8 o'clock last night. That was a plan. That was a short trip. Yeah, yeah. I just came out here for you. Oh, for real? Yeah, that is it. Did you bring the chef with you or did you find the chef out here? That's one of my chefs that live in LA. Okay. Yeah, Black Yonster turned me on tour and we've been rocking ever since. Like, she wanted to show show. Shire's chef, Dan, in Hollywood. You do what I'm saying? If y'all want some good food, High Little. Steak shrimp.

Yeah, Danny, you owe me about three free meals for this shot out too. I just know that. I've never seen anybody in your position show so much love to a chef in my life. I was impressed. It's just genuine people. They ain't even about the cooking. Right. About the person behind the cooking. That's the move.

Talk to me about this. When you first, like what would you consider your first entrepreneurial venture in the sense of like really deciding like, okay, this is something I'm going to really start dumping my attention into? I mean, I'll say that they started as a child because I come up under. I come upon the entrepreneurship, and I got the best teacher in the game. So it's not a point that I just realized that I just knew I always had to hustle and drive in me. So, yeah. Because, like, when we look at your family lineage, like, when we look at your dad, like, he just had his hand in so many different things and, like, been able to be successful with so many different things that is kind of shocking.

It's, like, it almost seems like from your perspective, it's got to be kind of like a big decision just to decide what you even want. to decide what is worth your time because there are like you were kind of raised that way that there's like a lot of different ways to make a to make a living yeah without a doubt we're gonna keep our portfolio as diversified as possible so it's a bunch of avenues for revenue yeah that's facts it was never a point that i just snap into it and like i want to be a businessman or i want to yeah be one of the top entrepreneurs now that was something that he distilled in us as kids So we were just in us. He just grew and got bigger and bigger as we got older.

Definitely. Yeah, what kind of game did your father put you on? It must be kind of wild growing up, getting game from somebody that has seen and done so much. It was the real guy. Yeah. The real is it. One thing about my father is it doesn't matter if your family or you're someone else that we don't know. Right, right, and wrong is wrong, and he distilled that in us.

It doesn't matter. He correct me the same way he'll correct somebody that he might be a situation with. Right. So it's all the same thing. Like his values are his values regardless of who you are. And he distilled that in us. Definitely.

I know I kind of asked you this about just growing up around all this shit in general. But when you, was there a moment when you sort of realized the way that people revered your father and how much respect that he had? Because that alone, it kind of stands alone in rap. Like there are certain people that you might look at like a Dr. Dre or a Drake or some shit who just have like unbelievable enormous amounts of respect. But to see someone who's like a non-artist to be treated in the way that your father does. This is a very unique thing.

Yeah, without doubt, and it's a different type of respect also. This is true. It's a different type of respect. But I mean, I'll say my middle school days I started to realize, okay, it's a serious. this guy. I knew it already because it's my father. But just to see the respect that the world gave, you know, made me realize, okay, yeah, it's something bigger than what I was in tune to from my dad. Yeah. It's a way bigger picture. And as I got older, I got to understand that picture better. For sure. Did you want to be an artist at some point?

Probably people have been asking you for years if you wanted to, huh? I'll be keep it real with you. with you. When I was in middle school, I thought about this shit. But then I realized that God didn't bless me with those gifts. You don't think? Yeah, he blessed me with the entrepreneurial gifts. Right. But there's a lot of legendary rappers. So if you were to really look at that music, you'd be like, man, I don't know if this dude really a rapper, but he's popping. I just know how to stay in my lane. And that wasn't my lane. I thought about it. People trying to convince me to do it till this thing. It just ain't my lane. I like them. Yeah. I feel the same way.

How did Houston shape you? How did Houston make you the man that you are today? Man. That's a tough one. It was Houston molded me. That's my land. That's what I represent everywhere I go. I can't necessarily say how it shaped me because I feel like my family shaped me

because it's a bunch of people from Houston that ain't got the same views or values that I have. So I ain't gonna say that necessarily the city shape me. It's just what you come up under, your environment in the city. And I just so happen to come up under, yeah, it's really shit. Definitely. Just aside, no more recent thing. What's up with this video I said you doing with a little baby the other day on the story?

Yeah, a little baby in the trenches, man. Yeah, I know. The baby came to my hood, Phil Ward. Shout out of the German gas gang. It was his video shoot, chances make champions. Yeah, we took the little baby to the hood. He was in the middle of the trenches. It was up with the baby a good nigga.

I fuck with him. What's your perspective on the hood at this point though? Because you don't gotta go there. But you got love for it and not to the point where you still feel the need to stop buying everything? Yeah, without a doubt. You never can't forget where you come from. And there's something that my old man is stilled in me all.

So they never forget where you come from. Like every year for my birthday, I have a black party in the field war. In the middle of the field war, I don't know if you've seen the footage or not, but there'd be thousands of people in the middle of my hood. And Drake them, Ben Meekden, Ben Roasting, Ben, Chris Brown, Tiger, like the name, Black Youngst, MoneyBag, like the name, Little Kemp, he go on and on.

Everybody come out every year. But I feel like it's important to share experiences and to give back to those who might not be able to receive it on their own. So what I do every year, infield war on Liberty Road, you do what I do. What I do every year is I bring artists to the hood. for everybody in the hood to be able to see the people that they're in custom to send you don't got to pay nothing now you got to do is show up free food free liquor free toys everything everything on me right you know what I'm saying I just feel like I need to share my blessings

with them also definitely so you never can forget where you come from no that's respectable for sure yeah it's a difference between changing your environment right I understand when people say okay We don't need to be accustomed to doing what we're accustomed to doing. Or being the spots that we used to be because we're growing and we're elevated. But at the same time, never lose sight of where you came from. Right. Yeah, that's important. When you look at, it's kind of been discussed a lot at this point,

but when you look at like that nipsy situation, it's kind of sparked this whole big conversation about once you become famous, rich, etc., what do you do with yourself? Like, is it safe to even continue to, be around people that maybe don't have anything that maybe are going to be irrational and erratic and act on their impulses when they are looking at what you've managed your accomplice of yourself. Is that something you think about? I mean, it's something I think about, but at the same time, it's like no situation is going to stop me from doing what I want to do.

If I want to be here, I'm a be there. I'm just going to make sure that I cross my teeth and dot my eye. So it's not no situation nobody could put me in or somebody tell me, hey, junior, don't go here, don't do this. Nah, it's just about tightening up. You just got to make sure that you're ready for whatever may present itself. Do you what I'm saying? And that's something that we do.

We always ready for whatever may present itself. So we're not scared to go nowhere. We're not going to let nobody tell us that we can't do nothing. We're just going to make sure that we have our teeth crossing the eyes. Is it? Was that a conversation in you when your pop driving as a kid where he was like telling you from day one, like, yo, you got to be really careful with how you move around? Like, this is not, you're not just a regular guy.

You got to be out here in a specific way. Coming up as a child, I didn't dealt with so much, like. And there's some things that I can't talk about. Oh, I bet there's a lot you can't talk about. I've dealt with so much that it's instilled in me, like, because I've been dealing with this since a kid. Like, he always let us know, hey, man, these people don't like me, so they might not like y'all.

So his situations we had to deal with, too. Right. Because, you know, sometimes people are targeted. The less vulnerable. Yeah. I was a kid, so I was vulnerable then. Yeah. But, yeah, that's something that he to steal the nuts for a long time.

Make sure y'all stay sharp, make sure y'all stay tight. Because it might be something that don't even, that you're not aware of, it might present itself based upon my behalf. Yeah. Were you raised to treat the rapelot name with the same respect that you treat yourself? Like, you would almost rather die. before you allow somebody to really truly disrespect the brand oh yeah we're gonna live and die about this here live and die about it that is that is us my name the prince

name rapper a lot all this shit coincide together so it is us if somebody disrespecting that they disrespecting us just like saying fuck a prince or fuck rap now the same shit ain't no difference yeah i was reading about how the average business doesn't make it pass, you know, the first or second generation. Because once it's sort of left to the next person, the air to inherit it, a lot of time shit goes crazy and it doesn't make it to the second or the third generation. Is that something that has been in your head

from an early age? I need to continue to make sure that this shit is dominant. Without a doubt, without a doubt. It's something that's gonna stay in my head is to make sure that this shit continues for generation. Something that I was taught is that we want to keep that poverty curse away from the family. So in order to do that, we have to make sure that we're steady building, steady maintaining,

steady to bringing value to the situation. So we don't have to deal with their poverty curse anymore. My old man comes from nothing. I was fortunate enough to have him, but he comes from nothing. So I feel like to not uphold that will be not upholding his legacy because he made a transition for our entire family. So it's for us to continue their transition and grow. For sure.

When you look at the current Rapalot roster, who's the base of who's on the label at this point? Because when we look at YBin Amir, he's probably one of the ones that's like the biggest doing the most over the past couple of years. I feel lucky that I, like, basically seen his career from day one. Yeah. Namir, J. Osiris, um, you got a lot of guys, man.

You're gonna get me in trouble. That is a rough one, yeah. You're gonna see all the right day. I'm gonna get in trouble. Right, but it's all. DJ XO, new artists that we're working without Houston. We got Young Lig that we're working without Houston too. I got a new artist coming.

He's about to get home. He come home on September. of the 13th, he goes by the name of a honeycomb brazen. He's from Alabama. He's about to be one of the coldest guys in the game. He and his down. Watch. I'm watching.

That's true. That's what I'm going to be back. Let's do it. That sounds great. It's a lot of artists that we're dealing with. Definitely. From the tight to the bottom. Do you feel like, because it seems like over the last couple of years that we've seen

a whole bunch of incidents where it's basically like this old school cultural respect that you guys kind of epitomize colliding with the modern clout chasing. a.k.a. teenagers are just stupid as fuck, and that's always been that way. But, you know, when we see a situation like what happened with Jay and with people posting video clips and rap a lot of chains getting stolen and shit like that and having to have these whole social media campaigns to get them back, talk to me about that sort of collision of like the new generation and then you guys who sort of epitomize that old school cultural respect.

I mean, it's just social media. Social media has it where people can act like they're somebody that they're not. So it's a whole social media thing and it comes with the territory. This world is about adapting and conquering because you cannot stop transformation. That's something that transform. It's a big social media game going on right now

where people can throw a rocking high at their hand. It's just what you're going to do when it's real life. Do you know what I'm saying? So that's something that I don't too much, pay too much mind to because I understand what I'm going against. And that's the internet. You can't beat the internet. Yeah, because it puts you in a weird situation

where you have to take to the internet to basically say, nah, this is not how this is going to go down. But then it's almost like you're kind of stupid to their level because you have to use Instagram to get that message out when I'm sure that you would rather hop on the phone, talk to somebody, never mind, link up with a person. It's a tricky situation. It's a tricky situation.

But we know how to balance the tool. And it's interesting, too. though because it's like if you sign to rap a lot you might have Jay Prince, Jay Prince Jr. hopping out to inform people that you're not allowed to disrespect the brand name like that whereas if you go sign to Atlantic Records, you know, Mike Karen ain't going to pull up at your crib. And it's cool. Everybody got their own values. Everybody's staying in their own lane. That's why I don't get outside of mine. Everybody got their own value. They handle their business the way

they handle their business. Yeah. It's just disrespect. It's something that you won't celebrate. Right. Yeah, it's important. It feels like a lot of people who, you know, in terms of like the younger generation and stuff, who might not have been necessarily as familiar with Rap, a lot or you, that when this whole six-nine situation went down that this was like kind of this key moment where it was like, you know, and obviously it's just you handling business and everything, but it's also like it really was kind of a good moment to be able to show what you guys were all about on a larger scale. I mean, it was just a moment where. I had to put a kid in his play. And as you see, like, once I addressed the situation, I said nothing more about it because I'm not no lip boxing. I'm not going to go on social media and go back and forth with you. None of that.

I'm going to check your temperature. And, you know, respect can be shown in a bunch of different fashions. He showed me respect when he comes to their world star show. That was respect. Rather, he wanted to say it or not, that the world wanted to say it and I, it was respect. He respect the power. So I seen he respected me and I never spoke upon it again.

Right. Oh, so you felt that he did something afterwards by going to another show that sort of corrected the wrong that came about in the first place? No, what I'm saying is after that little fly talking or whatever. Oh, okay, yeah. That happened.

And we went out there to Austin and addressed the situation. I feel like it was a situation that didn't need to be. addressed anymore because he showed me respect by not coming. Right. Interesting. Yeah, because I mean, that's got to be one of the most extreme examples that we've seen in recent years of basically, you know, street dudes, quote unquote, sort of like taking in somebody who wasn't cut from the same cloth and bringing them into their web, their family,

and then us all seeing the terrible repercussions that came from that. So you got to know what you're dealing with and you can't make somebody. who you are. You got to make sure that your artist stay in their lane too because at the end of the day they might not be able to deal with their pressure and you ain't going to be there all the time. So you got to make sure that as an artist

or as a CEO that you make sure your people stay in their lane and play their role. Everybody can't beat a quarterback. You ain't going to win a Super Bowl. Do you know what I'm saying? Everybody got to master their positions. You got to have your blockers.

You got to have your receivers. You gotta have the person who can run the ball. Everybody's master their roles, stay in their lane, play their position. You can win the Super Bowl. But when you got people portraying shit that they really ain't, there ain't no longevity in that

because it ain't real. Crazy. So I did want to ask you about this. As much as we've already talked about respect in this interview, you're kind of like the king of dumping water on people while they're sleeping. Water Boys Association.

Yes, sir. And when I think about that shit, I think about like, Chief Keefe when he was like 18. He would always be doing it on a gram and shit. When did that become a part of your life? Hey, we've been doing this for years. Like, yeah. But it really started out based up in the studio because we want people to be in the studio working. So the sleepers in the studio, wow, wake up.

It splashes water on you. Wake up. You're here to work. You didn't get asleep. I've seen you hit the chef's friend with it, though. Pretty girl. I'm like, man, she got to redo her makeup and everything. Damn.

I really felt bad for her. Hey, she was a good sport. Shout out to her. She did laugh at it a lot. She was a good sport. I was like, man, if I did that to my girl, it would not go down so well. Sometimes you got to pick your port. Yeah.

You got to pick your children. That's facts. Can I tell you about, oh yeah, and the other thing that I wanted to loop in when we were talking about people sort of disrespecting the brand name and stuff. Most recent thing that I've seen expressed by the Prince family on social media was basically this outcry against these ecstasy pills. they've been signed with Rappalo logos on. How does that make you feel?

I mean, you know, it's troubling right there. Like, it's crazy. First off, I don't know if it's the police or the streets. Mm. Real. Interesting. But regardless of the situation, it's crazy for somebody to try to brand, make our name look bad and what we stand for,

knowing that we don't represent that. They ain't what we are part of, never will be a part of the brand too big. Why jeopardize a legacy behind pennies? It's pennies. And who's stupid enough to put their mark on the goddamn drug? This shit crazy. So we figuring it out, though.

I don't know if it's the police or the streets. But yeah, it ain't going to be tolerating. Yeah, that's fucked up, especially knowing just that fucking half the time you see a pill flowing around the streets these days, it ain't what they're saying that is either. Yeah, I don't know nothing about that. You never, oh, that's an interesting route

that we could go down. You've never been a part of here. You never... I might have seen you hit the henny a little bit earlier. That's about as far as it goes. Yeah, I mean, I'll smoke a little bit every now and then, but... I ain't never experienced or experimenting with nothing else. Right. Nothing in my life. I ain't never even tried it. I got addicted personality. Right.

I know if I like something, I got the means to get it. So I don't even experiment or try new things that I feel like will be a downfall to me. Especially being around so many. from a young age too. It's like you've probably seen up close and personal. I don't get in people's business. I let them do what they do,

but I'm just not going to partake in it. For me, as one of the biggest Pimpsey fans ever, I'm going to say that, but obviously, I can't prove that. But talk to me about seeing him as a young man. And Pimp, one of the really guys I knew, and I say that because he always spoke his mind, like, period. He didn't get for who you were, where he was at, or anything like that.

Pimp always spoke his mind. He always kept it real. And that's something that I will forever respect about because everybody can't do that. Right. Everybody don't do him. Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, he's just like one of,

when you look at rappers, it's just he probably had one of the most enigmatic, just exciting personalities and he was so, like, I read this biography about him. It's actually incredible that I really recommend people read. But, I mean, they were really going to depth about, you know, just who he was as a person and how volatile. how he was and how he was so, it was like, yeah, multiple personalities kind of all wrapped in one

and you sort of didn't know where you were going to get, but all of them came out musically. Yeah, without a done. Yeah. Yeah. And you got still a relationship with Bun B and shit too, right? Yeah, Bunn family. Yeah, for life. Bund family.

Got a new project he's working on right now to him. And he's starting to rap a lot? Yeah. Beautiful. That's important. Talk to me about Bush, Rick Bell. Rest and peace. That must have been huge for you because I mean that but do you remember him being around quite a bit as a kid or was that almost before your time?

Nah, I remember Bush week since I was a youngster. He always been around from the kids on the door. We were together a couple months before he passed at a concert and stuff fucking around. Well, yeah, that's a sticking situation right though. I ain't see it coming. Really? We weren't in tune that he was going through what he was doing. going through. So yeah, O-I-P the Bushweed. How do you feel about that conversation that's been going around since he passed sort of, we seen Willie D. saying he didn't go to the funeral because they didn't get along. Do you feel like that is the right way to handle it if you genuinely didn't get along with somebody during their life? I mean, to each is on. Everybody got their own personal perspectives and reasons to why they make their decisions. So I'm not here to say whether somebody's decision was right or wrong because I wasn't in their position. But did it, uh,

Do you feel like he got what he deserved in his passing? Like it's something that happens over time where if a rapper maybe has their high point at some point 10, 20 years ago or whatever, and then when they pass, it's almost like, damn, like they're not always revered to the extent that a lot of us maybe feel like they should have been. Man, I feel like, I feel like his home gone.

This ain't sneaky. I ain't trying to sneakier here. I feel like he went out as a legend. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, he was celebrated here, and he was celebrated after death. And it was a beautiful thing. Everybody came and supported them, the ones who didn't. They had their personal reasons or whatever, but he'll forever be a legend in all eyes.

Definitely. When did you start the Mobtized brand name? I mean, Margotis derives from Young Mafia. I started Young Mafia. We used to call it Young Marr. I started Young Marr, me and a couple of homers. He started young marred probably early high school, like my 10th grade year.

You started an entity where I brought all the different sides of town together and made one collective group for us to get money. Do what I'm saying and be better? And that transitioned as we got older. We're not young no more. We're not stupid no more. We were young and dumb back then. That transition from young mob into mall ties.

And that's the adult version to where all the homies, we're getting all the homies from city, city, state to state. The strong mind are the homies. Right. Not the stupid ones. Not the shooters, not the fighters. We don't need all that. We like the ones who know how to use their mind.

The ones who know how to think, the ones who bring value to the table. They stand for what they stand for, but at the same time, they understand that it's a bigger picture and that we can be better together than just as an individual. Do you know what I'm saying? We only could do so much on our own, but collectively, yeah, we can compete with the Jews. Definitely. That's a beautiful thing. Talk to me on how you guys started your relationship with Drake, because that's one profound relationship.

apparently you guys seem incredibly close him and the whole family when when did that begin i mean it's 10 12 15 years plus because your brother like found him on my space right my brother found him on my space he ended up bringing them to the table everybody sat down had a meeting and listen to the music and it's history from there to tell the true my old man you know he's been out the loop a little bit when it comes to this music guy so he wasn't even just in in tune to the talent that Drake had. But my brother was. So he believed in him.

The rest is history, the biggest artist in the world. Yeah. And have you guys remained tight since then, since the early days? Oh yeah, without a die. Without that, it's family for life. Like, family for life. Drake is a brother, a good friend, a good individual, it's hard good. So he's family for life.

Can't nobody or nothing get in between it. Even when him and Meek had this situation going on. it wasn't nothing that could get in between that. You know what I'm saying? Meek my brother and Drake, my brother. I had to remain neutral. Mm. You know what I'm saying?

Was that awkward? So a lot of people, it's like, you see the inspirational quotes on Instagram. It's like, if you're kicking it with my enemy, then you ain't my friend, that type of shit. I mean, it just, it just depends on where the beep derived from. Mm. If it was a serious situation, if somebody was in the wrong, then I'd tell them you wrong. Mm. But that situation was,

wasn't no real beef, wasn't no situation where you had to choose sides because somebody really did something drastically wrong or anything like that. So I remained neutral. I really was to go between to them. Like, when Meek wanted to send Drake a message or when Drake wanted to send meek a message, they called me. You know what I'm saying? Hey, man. So there was a lot of talking that we didn't necessarily know about from the public eye. Oh, yeah. You know, a lot a lot of shit going behind clothes, though. I bet. Interesting. Is that weird for you when you see like a narrative being displayed publicly about either yourself

or your family or artists that you guys are working with and you know that that's not really how it's going. But then at the same time, it's kind of like you're making it worse almost if you jump in there and start correcting the record. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's a situation. That's situation we all got to deal with, but it's just not entertaining bullshit. if you know what it is and you know what's really transpiring.

And you ain't got to pay attention to the rest of it because you're in tune to what's really going on. So, you know, social media is going to be social media. The internet going to be the internet. Everybody got their perspectives and their own idea of what's going on, but they're not in the loop. So if you're in a loop and you really know what's transpiring, you ain't got worried about that bullshit because we know the people who matter. Yeah, social media is like usually almost exclusively. the people who don't really know anything aside from what they've seen in the news or on somebody else's Twitter or whatever. You just can't let that bait you in.

Is it? Has there been a reason, like, I think I mentioned this before, but is there a reason that you sort of avoided doing interviews in the past? Like, did you want to be a more secretive person or somebody who, you know, their actions spoke for them? And did you feel like doing an interview might take away from that? I mean, yeah. And I understand. I understand how this internet should go. I know when you give people the power to display you how they want to display you, they might not display you in the manner that you want to be displayed.

Mm-hmm. And I learned that as a kid. When I had my crib in Miami, I did a MTV cribs in my crib in Miami probably like 2008, 2009 when I was young. And we had a bunch of guns and stuff in the house. But they were legal. We had our gun licenses. They were legal, but I didn't know. They were with us for like four days.

I didn't know that they were going to try to capitalize off the bull's shit rather than the real shit. And they actually made the cover on World Star and everything with me with a gun in my hand. Instead of capitalizing on this, why you put the house right there? That's what you're here for. But they made it to where they had me with a gun in my hand the whole team. 10 seconds out of four or three days that they was with us, they capitalized on bullshit. Right.

Do you know what I'm saying? And I just learned a lesson then and never wanted to put myself in their same position where somebody can misrepresent me or put me in the tricky situation. Because as soon as I left there, I went to New York and I caught a pistol case in New York from the hip-hop police. For real?

Yeah. So I ain't never want nobody to tarnish my name or put me in the situation where I could be set up again. Yeah. That's crazy. Damn, yeah. And you're constantly sort of making that decision, like, you know, when you see people get to decide to go do love and hip hop, it's like, you might begin to check off that.

You might begin some more notoriety, but you're putting yourself in a situation where they can and will take every little bit of your personality and shape it to fit a narrative. And who knows, maybe you get to be the good guy, but chances are they probably not. And I had those offers too. They flew out to Houston. They tried to get me on love in hip hop Atlanta. They try to get me on love in hip hop LA. Then, you know, they were shooting a love of hip hop Houston.

They flew the whole crew out to come interview everybody and things like that. But I end up making a decision where I didn't want to do it because you never can trade respect for attention. I never trade my respect for attention. We good already. We got too many avenues where we can get some money. So I don't need that platform in order to be successful. So I would never lower my values or let anyone misrepresent. what it is that my family stand for

based upon trying to get some attention. That don't mean nothing. The money means something. Yeah, definitely. And respect. And especially just knowing that their business is basically taking your relationship and making that look all crazy.

That's extra messy. Yeah, I was going to be in Trovo-a-Tro. I was going to be in Trove-Betro. It's like if you're not a cheater, you're going to probably be in that first meeting. They're going to be like, all right, so we've got to find somebody for you to cheat with. Yeah, they try to pair me over so many different girls.

Oh, yeah, they do that for you, too, huh? Yeah, they try to pair me over with a bunch of different people. But, you know, shout I love hip hop. They're successful. I love what they're doing. Y'all keep getting your money. That's hilarious. When did you pick up the vape?

I introduced the vape to Houston. Oh, for real? Yeah. That's that nigger's signature. Fucking vape. Big clouds. It's been over. Man, probably down to 10 years.

I was smoking the vape. when people ain't know what a vape was. They were walking up to me in the club. Like, what is that that you're puffing on? Some robotic futuristic shit. Hey, man. You got to keep best to best, man. The Bugatti.

That's a fact. So do you feel like your brother got what he deserved out of the Drake situation? Because I know at one point there was a lawsuit, some sort of legal situation. Is that all resolved now? Everything good. Everybody rich. Okay. Well, we knew that.

Everybody rich. Everything good, man. That's what's up. So when you're driving around the car at this point in your life, what are you listening to? What am I listening to? You know, I got artists that I'm working with, so I like to jam and critique their music so that I can make them better than what they are. So I'm listening to DJ X-O. I'm listening to Jay the Gray.

I'm listening to the Honeycomb Braze. I'm listening to Meek. I'm listening to Drake. I'm listening to family. The guys who give me music that I feel like I could really love. that I feel like I could relate to. That's who I listen to. There's a lot of exciting shit coming out of Texas right now in general, though, too.

It's like kind of a renaissance out there right now. We kind of got Megan leading the charge. Shout with all the ladies out there. Shout to her in the stadium, man. She is, to me personally, and everybody can have their own opinion. She, the coldest female in the game right now. And that's not discrediting any other artists. that's not taking away what they've accomplished.

We're talking about a rookie. You know what I'm saying? She's a rookie. She's fresh off the boat. But she, the coldest female out there right now, in my opinion. You know what I'm saying? Naturally, too. And then the thing about Megan is, Megan really from the ghetto.

Really? Like, she really from the hood. So the shit that she's talking about, she really about that. I can't speak on everybody else because I don't know them like that. I don't know where they come from. I know what she come from. She really from the ghetto. She really from the projects.

And she's transitioned to a star. You did. So shout out to Megan. Shout out to 1501. Shout out of T.Fed. Shout out to all the. Shout out of them. Yeah.

Shout to all of them. They straight out the hood. Crawford, from Fifth Ward, too on from the field world. So it's a big thing. It's a big movement for us. They got the blueprint.

They're doing what they need to do with it. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. And she really wraps her ass off, too, which is the thing. I like no else about her. It's just like, damn, like.

She really is, yeah, my favorite girl. It's in the game. It ain't that she from Houston is that, yeah, she's really kicking this shit. Yeah, it's pretty incredible to be able to say that knowing that all she got out is like a little, little project that she probably didn't have too much time to work on and shit.

Like, the future for her is scary to think about what you're doing. Now the doors are open. She didn't have those doors open at first. Now she get to work with the best of the best. in the music game. So it's going to take a whole talent to a whole other level. And put it in that light.

I'm excited for it next album. It's going to be crazy. I'm excited for it. For sure. Last question, possibly last question. I've seen you rocking out to Old Town Road on your story. Oh, no.

See, there you go with the Mississippi. What's wrong with that? What's wrong with Old Town Road? No, we ain't talking about no crazy shit. No. No, you ready, though? You ready for the question?

That was before. Here's the grown and mature question. The door was open. The synergy, the merge of hip hop and country, being that you're from Texas. Do you see this as something that is maybe a little bit inevitable in the sense that, you know, I'm sure you've been exposed to country at least a little bit for your whole life hearing it out of people's trucks and shit like that? Do you think that this is the time for that merger of that? because that's kind of like Texas is like the white side of Texas

and the black side of Texas coming together in a way. Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, I feel like hip hop is a big influence on everything. You got. It was only a matter of time so they got hit by it, right? Yeah, so it's just how big our culture is, how big the influence is, that eventually it's going to link up with everything. Eventually, yeah, it was inevitable.

I seen it coming. I ain't know it was going to be like this. Right. 19 weeks is number one, man. Yeah, it's a beautiful thing, though. And I can't even knock it. I ain't got no problem with homie. Hey, man, get your money.

You're doing what you do. Regardless or whatever, it's all good. Get your money. For sure. So you go on to Atlanta after this. What keeps you on the move? Like, what do you, when you typically run through a city, what are you popping up to do?

What's your main business? I mean, majority of the time, me in London on the trip, we're working on this compilation album, Maritized compilation album. We both co-executive producing. So the majority of the time when I be in these cities for a couple weeks, so I'm steady on the move, it's because I'm linking up with different artists trying to put this album together.

It's going to be a masterpiece. It's going to be crazy. All the hottest niggins is in the game on one joint venture. Kind of like Cali, but for the streets. Yeah, for us. In my way. You know what I'm saying? Cali did a beautiful thing.

And yeah, shout out to you. to him. He's a boss. But yeah, I'm gonna do it in my own way, my own mal-a-mortized compilation on the way you did. That's what's up. Shut out London. I'm ready for that, man. All right, guys. Well, I appreciate y'all coming through. Anything you want to advise the audience to check out and anything in particular we need to know? I mean, you see it. Little bit going on. Shit, man, you know. Jay, the great. I'm next. You know what I'm saying? I'm next.

You know, I've been cooking. I ain't really got a lot to say. You know, I like to, I take a lot I have a nose from this man right here. So I'm less on words, you know what I mean? Shout out to, we are rich. You know, that's a whole other movement too within itself. Kind of like marathon, you know what I mean? Just some empowerment for everybody. Man, we just, it's time.

You know what I'm saying? It's time. I'm firm on that. This is one in the future artists coming out to city that's going to be hard in the whole game. Not a regional artist, but he's going to be worldwide. Jay the Great. DJ XO. Yeah.

Cold. I know you in tune with him and now he was supposed to be your house over here. He got listening to party in the Atlanta. I've seen him play some show. I forget where it was that I've seen him perform. Exo tough. Cold, cold, cold. XO.

We got a honeycom crazy. Like I said, he's going to be coming home September 13. Yeah. It's going to be crazy. It's time, man. It's time. Young lyric, the YBEN crew, man. Everybody, man.

The boy. Yeah. Shit crazy. Yeah. We didn't even actually, we didn't shut out YV and Corday. He just had a huge album. People are going crazy for it. Yeah, man.

He's got to point that out. Yeah, he talented him a whole other level, man. He's going to be an artist who's successful for a long time because his talent is immacryible. It's crazy. It's immaculate. Yeah, that's that real hip-hop. I appreciate you guys coming through for sure.

I mean, to lie. I appreciate you for having us, my brother. My pleasure, man. Hey, shout out. Y'all both got some clean-ass nails, too. I'm trying to stop biting mine. I just noticed that. Yo,

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