No Jumper - J Stone on Going To High School with T-Rell, Nipsey’s Legacy, Roddy Ricch & More

Episode Date: March 7, 2022

T-Rell sits down with S Stone to talk about his growth as a father, a rapper, Nipsey, his new music and more! ! This one is for the books! https://www.instagram.com/jstone_allm... https://www.instagra...m.com/_kingtrell/ ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Man, what's up, man? It's T.Rill, man. And right now, this is crazy. Like I said, every time I do something, I'll be like, man, this is a monumental day. It's a crazy day. Every interview I do. But this right here is going in a history book. I don't even know if this has ever been done.
Starting point is 00:00:21 You feel me? A hoover of you, I'm saying? Am I from 6'0? Inferstone, J. Stone. And this shit is like really. crazy man and I'm really proud to have him right here it's for the city for L.A., you know what I'm saying, to let young people know that you really can do this shit, you feel me, and, you know, you really could do this shit and you really can like have some sense doing it and making some money
Starting point is 00:00:49 and coming together with it. So I'm proud to have my boy Jay Stone right here, family man, entrepreneur, all in, all money in affiliate, you feel me? Like he, like, he, he, He really doing this thing. My boy, what's the deal? What's the deal, my... Yes, sir. I had to get that whole long-ass intro I had to. No, that's real.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I think it's what's needed, my n-sha. So motherfuckers can understand fully, like... Yeah. You know what I'm saying? What this shit is about? My nigga and how far we can take shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:01:17 How you feel being here? Man, I feel good. My nigga, like you said, it's monumental. My nigga, you feel me? Yeah. Like, this one for the books. This is something that we... You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:01:26 We have to... You know what I'm saying? I mean, my boy, I mean, Nipsey, I mean, I feel like everything he represented and everything he did, you know, when I met him and, you know, the vibe he gave, even though, you know, doing shit with YG, he was on a whole other level as far as reaching out and doing other things. And I feel like, you know, you being close homie, you're on the same shit. So I reached out and I'm like, my boy, he for sure can do this shit with me. You feel me? Because I can't do this shit with everybody. But I was like, I can, for sure.
Starting point is 00:02:01 And I don't do this shit with everybody either. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, I know, I know. Because I looked at a bunch of your shit. I'm like, my boy is real selective on what he'd be doing and how he'd be moving. And what, you know what I'm saying? What he'd be doing in life as far as in interviews and what he be talking about?
Starting point is 00:02:18 So I really appreciate it, man. Real, real. Yeah. So I really wanted to ask you, even though, you know, I'm from the other side, man. I just want to get right into you. you know how you grew up, where you come from, you know what I'm saying, let the people know my people, even if you ain't never tuned in, you know, where you came from, what you do, you know, how you grew up, man, and this shit.
Starting point is 00:02:41 I mean, shit, if niggas know they know, you feel me. I'm from L.A., South Central, born and raised, you feel me? Mm-hmm. Nigger went to Washington, went to Crenshaw high, you feel me, got kicked out of Washington. Nigger went back to Crenshaw, you feel me? You know, back and forth to jail. You know what I'm saying? Rap life.
Starting point is 00:03:01 You know what I'm saying? Back to jail again. You know what I'm saying? Type said, you feel me? But now a nigga than figured it out, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? I'm on this music shit. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:03:12 Taking care of the family. You feel me? Making sure of the team right. You know, that's what I'm on now. You feel me? Nick, I went to Chris Shaw too. I mean telling the niggins. I been like, nigga, I went to Chris y'all.
Starting point is 00:03:23 They were like, when you go to the same shit? I was like, you go on the same shit. I was like, hell no. nigga, but I went to Crinshaw nigger O'1. Now everybody know how old I am because the d'nog be teasing be as shit, fucking with me. But yeah, I graduated old one, man. That shit was crazy.
Starting point is 00:03:38 But not as far as the gang shit just far as the whole little I'll be telling my homies like the whole vibe and the essence, just the whole energy at Crenshaw was crazy because everybody was black. I felt like, and the time
Starting point is 00:03:53 then, I didn't know, but a time then, like I feel like it was Atlanta. You know what I'm like? I'm talking about the counselors, the deans, the principal. I'm like, a soccer coach black. You feel, I'm coming from L.A. High, Freemont, all type of shit, getting kicked out. But when I got there, you feel, me? Like, my homie was like, no, boy, bro, you're good, you good.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And I'm like, no, I ain't good. You lie, that ain't good because you know who from over there. I'm like, but he was from East Coast, though, at the time. So, yeah. He kept from East Coast. And I'm like, no, I ain't good. But when I went there, I'm like, damn. damn this shit is crazy you know god will you know nobody never asked me where i was from no
Starting point is 00:04:33 nobody ever asked me where i live or nothing i mean but you will though if i go to that bus stop on slosh so yeah yeah yeah you're gonna slip through the crack yeah for sure that bus stop on slawson was crazy they had to take the long way i'm like niggins never i'm not going out there but yeah yeah be walking home from crinshaw yeah be on their way nigger to that bus stop you see niggas soon as they get close to sloss and they bank in that corner Yeah, on everything. They ain't going to sloshing, man, man, yeah. It was that subway right there.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Oh, and I got it. He was like, walk down. He was going to take the slawson bus on. And I looked at that subway. I'm like, you got to be kidding me. My mama. Nah, I ain't going over there. But yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Living over there, man. I mean, when was the, when was the day you was like, you know what? I love this shit, man. I'm going to start banging this shit. Like, six old, nigga. This is where I'm going to be at. Man. Shit, nigga.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I don't know, nigga. I don't know, every since then, since the beginning, you feel me? Since the beginning, you feel me? Oh, what was you? You know, he's like, nigga, this shit's the, this is it right here. You feel me? Because I tell a lot of motherfuckers where I come from, like, I wasn't always like, you know, well, fuck this nigga, fuck this nigga.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I was like, it was always like a family-oriented thing. It was cool. You know what I'm saying? And I really wanted to fuck with it because everybody was together. everybody was partying, everybody was doing the thing. Yeah. So that's why, you feel me? I don't know what everybody else felt from the other side.
Starting point is 00:06:11 So I'm like, damn, was they the same way or was they like, you know what I'm saying? Niggas, like, hey, no, nigga, you got to do this because you live on this street. Like, I mean, you know, how different was it? No, that's just what a nigga seen growing up, just, you know what I'm saying, going to school and shit, the homies outside. That's just what you see. You know what I'm saying? The neighborhood. You know, in the 90s, it was different, too.
Starting point is 00:06:32 You know what I'm saying? So it was a little bit more active. We was a little bit more outside. You feel what I'm? When did you get into music? Shit, like when I was like seven. You was rapping when you were seven? Yeah, I put out my first tape when I was eight.
Starting point is 00:06:49 When you was eight? When I was eight, nigga. Nigger, where that tape at? Niggia. Hey, we had it, my nigga. We lost it in the old apartment, my nigga. What? Yeah, nigga.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I wish I had that shit. So you was rapping before nip? All I know, I was rapping, nigga, when I was eight, nigga. I don't know. I don't know when that nigga was rapping, you know what I'm saying? For as the age time, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Damn, yeah. Yeah. As far as putting out music and shit, like, you always been consistent, like, just a workhorse or whatnot or like that. Like, you always been like a workhorse like that? Yeah, nigga, I just saw a nigga do. work, like I said, nigga, like
Starting point is 00:07:34 when I was eight, nigga, my auntie gave me a karaoke machine, nigga, with a microphone, box of tapes, nigga. And, nigga, I got cracking from then, you know what I'm saying? On the karaoke machine? On the karaoke machine, nigga, with the mic, so I'm going through instrumentals, nigga, finding tapes and shit with beats
Starting point is 00:07:51 on them, you know what I'm saying? And, nigga, I was doing my shit. What's the first song you karaoke? I think it was like, I think it was EZE. To! Everything. On everything. It was easy E. Real motherfucking geez.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Oh, I probably wrap that shit too on everything. For real. I had the single, the single came with the instrumental, nigga, the radio edit. Yeah, they did that shit with the little tapes back then. On my mama. On my mama. They did with the little tapes. What's the first hip-hop album you had, though?
Starting point is 00:08:26 Like on the West Coast, hip-hop album. DJ Quick. DJ Quick? Yeah, quick. Damn. First off, let's shout out DJ Quick. A lot of motherfuckers gonna be, they don't be giving him his flowers. He need his flowers because when they be talking about.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Shout out to quick though, for real. Yeah. Yeah. And get my boy in there because he's hard. He's just as good as Dre with this shit. You feel me? Yeah. When motherfuckers be talking about top five, niggas don't be bringing my boy up.
Starting point is 00:08:56 And, you know, that realimalism and all that shit, that shit was hard, bro. I fuck with DJ Quill. Safe and sound, my hardest album from that nigga, man. To! Safe and sound, nigg. Yeah. What you got coming up though, man. No, like videos, man. Tell me what's going on, man. Because I really love how you be painting pictures in your videos better than doing it up. Like I was just singing that came up. You feel me? Like that shit is like, that shit hit me.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Nah, that was for the city. You feel me? That was my L.A. swag right there. Yeah. You know what I'm saying. But what I got coming up next is Definition of Sacrifice. That's my new album. I got this little series going on. Definition of L.A. pain, and then now we have sacrifice, you feel me. And then the next album is gonna be success. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, with your boy gone, man, I feel like,
Starting point is 00:09:50 I mean, it is a lot of y'all, you got a pack man, you got a lot of y'all. But I be feeling like, damn, dude, the homie feel like he got a lot of weight on his shoulders, dinkier to keep this shit going. I mean, you don't even think about it. You just, it's just something you gotta do. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:09 something you know you gotta do you know i'm saying like that due to everybody else feel like that like you know because when you think like that then that's when the pressure built up and you know you know you know i'm saying you know you ain't you ain't got you ain't got no pressure it's go time did you feel like that at first or you know you just had to i mean in the beginning yeah you like fuck this shit you yeah for sure on everything and man i see you um performing that rolling loud and i was like i was looking at whole bunch of your shit, you know, pictures, videos, and the whole shit. I'm like, I very rarely see my nigga smile, but when you was on that rolling loud stage, like, how did that shit make you feel?
Starting point is 00:10:49 Because it been the minute being on stage like that, especially a crowd like that, you feel me? So it just felt good to be on the stage again, you know what I'm saying, that interacting with the crowd and shit, letting them feel the music. And that was a new song, you feel me? So I ain't really seen no reaction like that, you know what I'm saying? I ain't really seen him fuck with that song like that, you feel? me so you been performing and shit or like doing like doing different shows and shit like yeah hell yeah
Starting point is 00:11:14 yeah i still do shows and shit i got this tour lined up you know i'm saying so when i dropped the album we're trying to get back on the road oh yeah that's hard bro doing your live shows yeah that's tight man man do you be bringing like everybody with you too or you just going by yourself no hell not i mean it depends on where i go like if i go far you know i'm saying niggas i fuck what i bring out there you know what i'm saying and whoever in the city that i tap in with that i fuck with in the city. I bring them niggas out too, you feel me? Yeah. I remember when I
Starting point is 00:11:43 started listening, man, it was slossing boys and shit like that. How did that transition go from slossing boys to like the Crenshaw shit? I mean, really, it's all the same shit, though. You know what I'm saying? It's all under one umbrella. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:11:59 Crenshaw, Slaus and Boys, like, you feel what I'm saying? It's all the same shit. You feel? It's the Crenshaw district, period you feel me like it's a lot of talent over there it's a lot of homies that that really do their shit over there you know what I'm saying and not only like music but business wise and shit too you feel me like you know so did you feel like jail really took a tamper and like really took a like toll on you as far as the music shit you feel like you feel like you feel like I mean of course
Starting point is 00:12:29 the jail was setbacks you feel me yeah the jail you know I'm saying that shit has set a nigga back but then I thought I'm like nigga if I keep thinking about what if like nigga I I get nowhere you feel me so I'm like nigga fuck that what if I would have did this what if I would have been this what if I'd have been that I'm like fuck that I'm gonna just go you know what I'm saying why you was in jail was that shit crazy though because you was like almost semi famous like nigga your name was me and I shot it out all the time nigga you back in jail nigga the county like like how to fuck nigga how was how was that reaction in there in jail Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I mean, I don't think niggas in jail was, like, tapped in like that. You feel me? Because niggas in jail, so they ain't really, like, tapped in on, like, what's underground. You feel me? Like, in jail, nigger, it's gang bang capital. Like, niggas want to know where a nigga from. Like, you feel me? Like, they don't get a fucking about no music, nigga, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:13:27 Like, bitch, when I get out this motherfucker, y'all know where I'm going, nigga, I'm going to the Grammys, nigga, y'all are crazy. It's a motherfucker like, what, nigga? I know. I know you was in there talking your shit for show. Oh, God. But then when the nigga did start rapping, though, like, nigga, they was fucking with it. Oh, you was rapping in that motherfucker?
Starting point is 00:13:44 In that motherfucker? Who beating on the table? Nick, I'm beating on the bunk doing my shit myself, nigga, you feel me? Oh, and niggas just tuned in. Yeah. Too. Damn, even enemigos or, you know, are niggas from the other side. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:13:59 Like, niggas tune then, seeing what you're doing. I remember they had me in the blood dorm after I got down, did my shit. you know what I'm saying made up my bed I started rapping you feel me so like I already know like a few days later like the homies was trying to get me pulled in the dorm I'm like nigga we're gonna get you over here
Starting point is 00:14:16 but the blood niggas was like blood where you're going you ain't going nowhere you shouldn't ever came back there rapping nigga he's like nigga you're gonna stay blood you stand here you're like you feel me I'm like man the homies going eventually pull the nigga up out of here man you feel me I had that motherfucker
Starting point is 00:14:33 I can lit after a while, you feel me. They ain't one the nigga to go. Yeah. Because you turning up the whole door, you feel me? Oh, God. How that go, man? Tell the people, man, how that go, man? How your homies, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:45 Pull you out the door. I'm like, hey, no, come over here, bro. It's just too crazy over there. I mean, you start seeing niggas that you know from the streets. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So eventually they're going to want you over there with them, you feel? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Yeah. I mean, I hear a lot about fats, too. Both the facts. Man, shout out the fats, man. That's my nigga, man. Yeah, but we never really got into, like, no stories, like how he was as a person and what he did. Like, I just hear his name a lot, and he was doing a lot of shit with Sam. And I just feel like, man, he needs some flowers, too, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:15:23 Because his name was brought up a lot on everything. And I do want to say something, but I'm away for the documentary. The documentary about to drop, you know what I'm saying? So y'all gonna get all that, you know what I'm saying? Y'all gonna get the back story. And give me a little bit on that nigga, man. Man, let me, man. We're gonna say that for the dog.
Starting point is 00:15:42 He was a real one though. You know what I'm saying? Fast was a real one. He was, you know what I'm saying? Since day one, you know what I'm saying? Hustling with nip and Sam, you know what I'm saying? Out there in the streets, you know what I'm saying? Out there in the streets, you know, doing their shit.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And they eventually got that shop, nigga. And what's going up? And it was going up. Police was hating, but shit, niggas kept going. So that was originally Fats and Sam doing their thing right there. I mean, it was, I mean, it was all of them. Mm-hmm. It was all of them, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:16:12 Like at first, you know what I'm saying? Nip and Fats was close like that, you know what I'm saying? And then Sam and Fats started hustling together, you know what I'm saying? And me and Nip started rapping, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I knew Fats before all of them, you know what I'm saying? So. Damn, bro.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah. And I know it's probably going to be in a documentary, but. We never really got a backstory on how my boy died. Like, nigga, what happened to my nigga? You feel me? Some shit that don't even need to be talked about. Except on the documentary. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:16:46 That shit crazy, bro. Like, how are you saying to my homies too, it be the closest motherfuckers to you, for real? That'd be, like, NB and you, you, feel me? Like, that'd be that super crazy, you feel me? Like, you gotta watch everybody, like. But if you were a cool motherfucker, well, I gotta do that shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:07 But, nigga, that's anywhere you go. They ain't just L.A. That's anywhere you go. Yeah. Niggas be trying to move out the city and go other places and shit still be happening. You know what I'm saying? I'd be like, damn, niggas should have stayed in the city, you feel me? But, yeah, also, the city is crazy as a bitch, though.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I ain't going to lie. And one thing I want to ask you to, I'm like, when the bulls, When my boy passed away, like I met him a couple times, even with my girl, man. And that shit just affecting my girl so much. And I'm riding down Laurel Canyon and we banged, you know what I'm saying? That's how I'm new. That's how I knew. Like, and she started crying.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Like, I'm like, damn. You know, so, so for motherfuckers to be speaking on Cud and speaking, like, speaking badly about the nigger, like, how do you feel when you hear, like, motherfucker, speaking on my nigga name as far as being a legend niggins out here in Los Angeles, bro. I mean, if you watched my last No Jumper interview, I was asked that same question, you feel me, and I answered it, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:18:17 So niggas already know where I stand with that, you feel me? If you don't know, then, nigga, you don't know. You know what I stand with that, though. I mean, yeah, I mean, you, I watch it with Adam. I'm a different nigga, though. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to see what it do
Starting point is 00:18:35 because the way I feel even if that was my homie, man they got me fucked all the way up You know, period You play with the homie name We're gonna fuck you up, period Man, that shit is just You
Starting point is 00:18:48 No You know what I'm saying I fuck with whack I fuck with cud I fuck with cud That's my nigga But the shit he was saying He had some little points
Starting point is 00:18:58 And he didn't have You know Some of the points he was making For school Some of the points he was making wasn't but just the fact that the homie died you feel me and he had such an impact on the city i feel like everybody should be behind that shit you feel me like everybody should be behind that shit and everybody should be like nigga hell yeah that nigger was touching souls on god in heaven
Starting point is 00:19:22 you feel me like and i'm like i wonder what you know the nigger homies is saying another nigga you feel me too is a nigga charleston white he'd be grubes he'd be growing up and he'd be saying anything about a nigga, bro. You feel what I'm like, how do you feel about that nigga? You got something else we can talk about? You feel me? Yeah, I do. Yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I don't even want to talk about them niggas, fool. Yeah, because they bullshit. I can go ahead and say... I ain't even that type of niggas that do interviews and talk about niggas and shit like that. You feel me? Niggas, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:56 You feel me? I mean, we're going to do that. Yeah, because my homies, even though, even though, my homies really, really they into it too and they like don't want to get into that but I feel like if we had to we amount Because anybody that no protocol my nigga
Starting point is 00:20:12 they know I feel me. Niggas ain't got to talk about that shit. Yeah man I feel like that shit is crazy though man I know I know I've touched in the sense of the subject but I know I feel how I feel too but I went really close to the nigga but you was really
Starting point is 00:20:32 close to the nigga and I felt like damn listening to the music and how it made me feel you know it just like I said even your song that shit made me feel like fuck I don't like that shit and I want to see if a nigga on my same little same shit on my same wavelength you feel me yeah and I'm just like I don't fuck with that shit you know what I had to get your whole little point of view on it I don't like that shit what's that like you know saying niggas talking bad about the nigger or whatever and staying crazy shit that's all the best one any reason why i asked that shit you feel me yeah you know yeah niggas gonna do what they do bro you feel me mm-hmm niggas gonna say what they're gonna say you
Starting point is 00:21:12 can't stop a nigga from saying what you're gonna say you feel me yeah as far as um like young homies you know rapping and shit like that my young homies rapping and doing their thing and i be telling them and shit like i want you to give him some advice on how you supposed to do this shit as a rapper, like, and what levels you can reach as a rapper, because my homies, I'd be telling them, like, you can't be dissing and doing the bullshit and rap.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Like, how far do you want to go and rap, you feel me? Like, how far do you want to go on rap, but you can't go that far if you're doing the bullshit, you feel me? And niggas like you, you are for you, you are where you're from, you feel me, and you'd be doing it in a different way, Nip did a different way,
Starting point is 00:21:58 you know what I'm saying? A lot of your label mates do it a different way. Like, they need some advice on how to do that shit, bro. I mean, I don't think it's a certain way to do it. You feel, me? Like, everybody got their own way of doing it. You feel me? Like,
Starting point is 00:22:14 I think consistency is key, bro. You got to keep on going. Feel me? No matter what your situation is, no matter who fuck with your shit, who don't fuck with your shit, niggas, just go. Everybody life is different. You know what I'm saying? Everybody don't get the same shit that
Starting point is 00:22:31 other people get in life, you feel me? Everybody get blessed the way they get blessed, you feel me? You can't look at the next person's success and think you're supposed to be blessed like that, you feel me? Because God going to bless you the way he's going to bless you. You feel me? So, that's it. You feel me? You know, niggas got to believe in their
Starting point is 00:22:49 self. Some niggas don't even believe in their self, you feel me? They think they want to do this shit, but I don't even think they believe in their self. You feel me? So that's why certain niggas don't get too far. Yeah, and I'll be feeling. Like that should be kind of corny too. Like you're doing all that shit. You're doing the game signs and blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And I'd be like, you ain't representing right because then you start making bread. When you start making bread, you can't really reach those levels. Then you got to stop, and that's what they know you for. You feel me? Then what you're going to do now? And I can't do a song with you. And I can't do a song with these other niggas.
Starting point is 00:23:23 So I'd be feeling like, man, a lot of OGs need to tell motherfuckers like that shit. You feel? I think niggas just can't be scared to. elevate. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You got to elevate. You got to want to elevate. Niggas be on the same shit. That's where you're going to be at. You know what I'm saying? You got to see yourself past where you at today, nigga, five years from now. You feel me? Yeah, when you wake up, what's your whole little thing when you wake up? Like, man, you know what? I'm going to do this shit. Like, this is the way I'm going to do it. It's the way I planned it.
Starting point is 00:23:55 You know, do you be just speaking into existence? Man, I wake up. I pray. I make sure of fam straight. I'm getting to the money. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Getting to the money, you feel me? Father. Yeah. For sure.
Starting point is 00:24:09 How important you take this father's shit? Real serious, because I ain't have a dad, nigga. You feel me? Growing up, a lot of us didn't, you feel me? So that shit helped me. And what happened with your pops? I mean, you know, regular shit, jail. Well, it is regular shit.
Starting point is 00:24:26 But, yeah, you know what I mean. Jail, you feel me, back and forth. You don't, you don't fuck with that? No, I fuck with him. He out now, you see me? Oh, okay. Yeah. Moms you fucking with? Mons, R-R-R-P.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Damn. Pops, I don't fuck with. I don't fuck with my pops. That's crazy. I mean, it's a lot of us that don't got a pops and, like, doing that shit. How did that shit affect you in your younger life, man, growing up, not having the pops? I mean, it can make you or it can make you and break you, you know what I'm saying, at the same time, you feel me? It'll break you, and then it can make you. into the nigger you you you you need to be you feel me on the real because probably probably if i did have moms and pops around you feel me like i probably wouldn't win as hard as i did
Starting point is 00:25:13 you know what i'm saying i had to feel me and mom passed away at a uh a younger age too i wouldn't be able to to cope with that you feel me like and my kids like being in a being a father being a father figure my kids like i really love my kids and i'll be telling me that i'd be telling me that And I'd be just feeling like, man, my daddy wasn't there. My mama was just there. And I'd be feeling like a father. It's just, I've got to be there every second. Like, you feel like that?
Starting point is 00:25:41 Because I see your kid. I mean, kids are near. Nah, for sure, man. It's important, man, for sure. Really important, my nigga. Because they're going to, they're going to remember them times you was there. They're going to remember all the gifts and all that shit. All the toys and all that shit.
Starting point is 00:25:56 You see me? Like, all this shit, you. And they're going to remember the time, bro. Time. You be putting in that quality time now. I got to. Yeah. Hell yeah. I got to put it in that quality time and I got to be with my kids. I feel like that's the most important, man, especially where we come from and what we do because that shit is crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I got my daughter with me right now, you feel me? Got to kill two birds and one stone, you feel me? Because you got to spend time, right? Oh, everything, man, coming in here. I be said the same thing, man. I did a little photo shoot with my girl in the photography. photographer came in. She had her, um, she had her, um, daughter with her. She kept saying, sorry. I'm like, nah, this is where we come from. This is, I feel your energy, feel me? Hell yeah,
Starting point is 00:26:41 you got to kill two birds with one stone. Like, I'm out here. I feel it? I feel it? Man, for real. I'm on everything. I love. You feel me? Um, back in the, back in the day, man, uh, Roddy Rich was, um, I wanted to ask you this too. Roddy Rich, we used to fuck with y'all a lot. He did, he did a lot with, uh, all money in. Yeah, he was fucking with us, you feel me, but, you know, he got signed kind of, you know what I'm saying, kind of, feel me early on, real early, like right, right when that nigga was, you know what I'm saying, he got signed early and, you know, shit took off for him. But he said, oh shit, Nip did a lot for me.
Starting point is 00:27:21 He walked me in these doors. He walked me in these doors. And I'm like, damn, was he supposed to be all money in or what? Like, damn, you're supposed to sign, but, you know, I know how that sign and shit goes. That shit is crazy. Nah, Nip definitely want to fuck with him, you feel me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:35 But he ain't want to, you know what I'm saying? He ain't want to tell him like, all right, I got this going on. We got this. Because, you know, it's a lineup, you feel me? So he didn't want to have a nigga waiting, you know what I'm saying? And it's time to go now, you feel me? Yeah. You know, he walked him through certain doors and, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:53 You related to him anyway? Yeah. Damn, see, a lot of people don't know that, though. How do you find out you were related to that thing? later bro way later niggas way later through what cousins aunties
Starting point is 00:28:10 what do a family reunion what y'all was doing nah my brother had caught me because we've been around each other you know what I'm saying but just didn't know but that's how God worked bro they had you in the room with a motherfucker you and even know like that's your family you know what I'm saying if y'all ain't grew up together type shit so we'd be out here doing shit to each other and I don't even be knowing
Starting point is 00:28:29 like miggie it could be a nigga family remember, you feel me? Yeah. But, yeah, my brother hit me and was like, nigga, you know that's our uncle Donnie grandson. You feel me? Damn. I don't heard. But shit. Do a lot of rappers be tapping in with you?
Starting point is 00:28:49 You feel me? Like, you know what? We're going to keep you. We're going to keep you, you know what, you know what I'm saying? Where you need to be, nigga, and if anything, you need anything, let me know. Yeah. Who be tapping in with you? I mean niggas fuck with me niggas fuck with me
Starting point is 00:29:08 for sure man give me some insight you know my nigga me my nigga for sure give me
Starting point is 00:29:13 you gonna end up you gonna end up that one of those branches or what you're gonna end another one of JZ branches or what
Starting point is 00:29:20 no you know what you know what I'm saying the last time they had the rock nation brunch I was supposed to pull up but like it was my daughter
Starting point is 00:29:24 birthday so you feel me that was the sacrifice I made you feel me too you said no
Starting point is 00:29:30 to the rock nation branch It was my daughter birthday, nigga What you mean? I'm saying that because my baby, why don't she gonna be listening to this my fiance? Oh yeah, she's gonna get on your ass.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Because I was supposed to go My son birthday on Saturday I was supposed to go to Vegas with these niggas So I plan some shit. Nah, but I know some niggas that would have, oh yeah the daughter birthday
Starting point is 00:29:55 yeah, you probably would have got canceled. We're doing that tomorrow. You know what I'm saying? But she I'm telling sometimes you got a sacrifice I mean Rock Nation Breasts is crazy
Starting point is 00:30:07 I mean But it probably was already It's probably It was already Set in stone I ain't gonna lie Yeah It's all good though
Starting point is 00:30:13 I ain't gonna miss the next one Oh yeah Yeah How you get them invitations Anyway Is that an email or what Or is that a text That's crazy bro
Starting point is 00:30:24 Man you know you just said it Mickey You just said it I'm trying to fuck with that shit too, you feel me? You be on the same little wavelength as far as, like, the books and how you study in the culture and educating yourself and shit like that? Yeah, I read a lot of books in jail, you feel me, so, you know. What books you read? A lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:30:55 A lot of shit, niggas. You know a nigga started off with the urban shit. I started off with the urban books, you feel me? The Malcolm Ed. Yeah, nah, the super heads. Oh, okay, okay, okay. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:08 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm saying? And getting out there, yeah. Yeah. But I read, I mean, I read a gang of shit, bro. Be more careful, the Superhead book, 48 laws of power. 50 book, where is it, 50 laws of power. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:29 You know what I'm saying? The book he did. with what's the name uh something green Robert green oh yeah yeah yeah okay I ain't even gonna lie cause I don't even read read read books like niggi I read Dutch one two three but with my boy he like he be I'm like they're just reading books his nigga talking about they listen in the audio books and all that and I had to tune in I'm like I don't know you feel me like I'm gonna start tuning in in a minute you feel me the white man gave me a book I'm like all right i'm gonna read it see what my favorite book though is thinking grow rich yeah oh you know what
Starting point is 00:32:09 i read rich dad poor dad because i ain't gonna lie i read that one that's a good one too i read that one yeah i read that one yeah what was the other one about you was saying you read which one the one you just mentioned oh think and grow rich yeah yeah you gotta get that fool who introduced you to that one yeah i got a sent to me in jail you feel me yeah not too long ago But I already knew about it, though, but I never really picked that shit up. You know what I'm saying? Like, niggas was always telling me about it or everywhere I go. Like, motherfuckers, I have it.
Starting point is 00:32:41 But, like, last year when I went to the county, you know what I'm saying, for like a couple months and shit. You know what I'm saying? I got the book sent to me. Knock that shit out. It's books right here. This nigga's supposed to be sending the motherfuckers in jail and shit. I'm like, this nigga crazy is a bitch, man. But if a nigga needs something, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:59 You can grab it and send it to them. You feel me? Like, that shit wild. For real. Yeah. Man, as far as, like, being a rapper right now, man, you feel like crazy out here because I know you niggas got to take extra precaution. Like, you got sling 400 and Draco and all these niggins dying and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I feel like just being a rapper is dangerous as fuck. You feel like you got to feel like you got to take these extra precautions. You feel? Still for your family and shit like that. That's, nigga, that's everywhere you go, nigga. Yeah. Not even just LA. That's period.
Starting point is 00:33:36 You know what I'm saying? Of course. You got to move like that, period. Whether you from the streets or not, you know what I'm saying? Moving smart. You just got to move a certain way, period. You know what I'm saying? Did you hire any, like, security and shit like that?
Starting point is 00:33:50 You know what I'm saying? Do we to walk around with or go to any shows with? Because some of these niggas be feeling like they ain't got to have that shit. Nah, I don't be needing that shit, man. Niggas hold me down. You feel me? The homies. I'm good, bro.
Starting point is 00:34:02 God got me. I don't God. Oh God. Oh God. That's how I'm feeling, yeah. That's how I be feeling too, man. Shit, that motherfuckers be like, where are you going? I'm like, shit, I'm going by myself.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Or even when I did this, like, you sure? And I'm like, yeah, cut straight, like you ain't, like. Like, you need to call the homie? Yeah, like, nigger what I need to call a gang of motherfuckers up here for? I don't need to do that shit, fool. No, for real. Yeah. Nah, hell, nah.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Sometimes you think you got to, but I don't know, depending on who you are or how you is, you feel me? Like, I just want to be regular certain days, nigger, and just do what the fuck I want to do. You feel me? But I know you can't move like that, no matter how much you want to move like that. You know what I'm saying? Shit can happen, niggas just going to the stove. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, being regular for you, man, it's out.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Nah, for sure. Man, being regular is out. For sure. Damn. For sure. Like, you can't even really go to Target. Argin' ain't doing none of that shit. Nah, they'd be tripped.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Last time I went to Target, the nigga was like, damn, Jaystone really in Target. I'm like, nigga, yeah, nigga, the fuck. Niggia, I'm grabbing what the fuck I need, nigga, what you mean? I'm regular out here, nigga, I gotta do this shit. You know, certain niggas saying assistants to do that shit, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:35:22 Yeah. I don't know, I ain't that type of nigga, though. I probably need to. I need probably like two, three assistants shit. My job would be way easier, you feel me? Oh, God. Is it ever a day you'd be feeling like, you know what, I'm gonna quit this shit, nigga?
Starting point is 00:35:37 This rap shit, man, this shit's too crazy. Yeah, I felt like that. Last week. Yeah. Last week, I was gonna say, fuck it again. Tell me about it. Why, though, cuz? I think everybody gets to them stages, bro.
Starting point is 00:35:50 That's just, that's life, nigga. You feel me? You know, that's the challenge within yourself. You feel me? And it could be, it could be a wake-up car. It could be a reality. check it could be anything or it could be you know what I'm saying the devil knocking out the nigga though like yeah nigger it's time to slow down nigga it's time to yeah it's time to say fuck
Starting point is 00:36:10 this shit and I want you to mean it type shit you feel me like yeah yeah got to snap out of all that shit you feel me as much as you want to just not work no more nigga we got to get up and work nigga you got to you ever felt like you had a like a depression or any kind of like like little problem like can't get up and do this shit nah It's just like my work got too overwhelming. I'm doing, I'm independent. I'm doing everything. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:36:37 I'm doing everything. So a nigga had to just sit back and breathe a little bit because all I was doing was working. You feel me? And the nigga don't never get no time to enjoy life. So, you know, a nigga got to enjoy this shit sometimes. Yeah, like vacations and shit is important. I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:36:54 I didn't know that shit too, you know, until I got a little older. Yeah. Yeah, vacations and shit is important. You're going on vacations and shit? Hell yeah. That shit is important. A little mess of a trip. Yeah, come back, nigga, and spit some different shit.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Nika, mine a little bit different, you feel me? Yeah. Because I've seen a boy, man, and Toulon, I'm like, I went to Toulon just to see. And I'm like, man, we be needing this shit. Yeah. The mind ruins and all that I don't know. Like, you'd be really needing that shit. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Yeah, it's a lot of dope places in the world. my nigga other than other than LA you feel me we so we so immune to this shit my nigga custom to this shit
Starting point is 00:37:37 we don't want to go nowhere fuck that nigga what's the first trip you ever took first trip state penitentiary cold
Starting point is 00:37:45 them them niggas flew you out or bust you out like Arizona the state penitentiary
Starting point is 00:37:56 nigga first time I left California all that's cold is a motherfucker Nah, real shit, though. That's cold. Outside of that, though, I think, I think, like, the East Coast.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Yeah, the East Coast, somewhere on the East Coast, like New York or something. He was happy as a motherfucker when you seen New York. Hell, yeah. It's just something about that shit for an L.A. nigga, like, bro, I've seen this shit. Nah, for real. And they like that, too, to L.A. Like, when they come out here, nigga, they get that same feeling when they get that. feeling when they get out here
Starting point is 00:38:32 you feelin' me? Yeah. Yeah, I don't got. Yeah, niggas got to take those trips, man. Feel a little better, man, about their self, man, do with that shit up, man. And I'm glad you came here, man, and fuck with me. Nah, for real, for real, my nigga.
Starting point is 00:38:45 This one for the books, my nigga. Yeah, this one for the books for sure. I had to chopper up with you and see, even though I ask you some wild questions. But that's because, I want to know, that's because I'm feeling like that, too. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you weigh extremely more hurt
Starting point is 00:39:00 in me, but that's just because I want to know, and it's just like, fuck. You feel me? I need it, that shit. I need some clarity, too. Nah, for so, my nigga. Yeah, you feel me? For sure. I respected, my nigga. On the real. On the real, man. So, shit,
Starting point is 00:39:16 let everybody know what you got coming up, nigger, what you doing? How you doing it? You feel me? Shit, new album about to drop. You know what I'm saying? Definition of sacrifice, you feel me? It's lit. Got Mazzie on that motherfucker. Feel me?
Starting point is 00:39:31 Got Jada kiss on that motherfucker. Got Swizz. Too! Just name a few. I got more niggas on there, I'm just name a few. Hold on, you got Jada kiss on the record.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy, yeah. What happened, Gina, Cah? Somebody out there? I'm from the rap up right now. All right. Yeah, Jada kid's that shit crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Yeah. Yeah. This album gonna be crazy. Yeah, this album gonna be crazy. Yeah, shit gonna be lit. How long it took you to do that shit? there rest of peace young doth oh you know what i'm saying got my nigger on there and how was it working with doth or did y'all have the email that back and forth nah nah we ain't do that nigg we we got in
Starting point is 00:40:15 the studio together and make that shit from scratch you feel me yeah like real niggas shit though you feel me it's certain niggas that do the email shit but nah niggas we locked in for so yeah because i'm like the email shit you got i don't know about that shit that shit that's I heard Dolphins is a sick Was a sick nigga Yeah it's certain niggas that I do want to get in the lap with Like you know what I'm saying Depending on where we at
Starting point is 00:40:40 You know what I'm saying We gotta get it done How we got to get it done Fuck it, you feel me But I'd rather get in the lap with a nigga You know what I'm saying? Yeah Who are you listening to right now though
Starting point is 00:40:50 In the whip? Man I'm listening to this album right now Though I ain't even gonna lie Like I can't stop listening to this album Nigga I'm trying to critique it Nigget it until it's done You know me? Oh, detailing until it's right, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:41:05 Working out the kinks. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you got mixing that thing? A couple of, a couple different people, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'll be knowing. Because the last album I did with Guru, you know what I'm saying? Young Guru mixed the whole joint.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Shut up the gruel, you know what I'm saying? Mix the whole joint, you feel? Me, this one, I got, you know what I'm saying? And these is people from my team that I'm building with, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, because I feel like, when y'all be talking like that sound and that like it'd be like super crazy like yeah that's it
Starting point is 00:41:39 necessary my nigga you feel me because the music be good but if it don't sound good that shit gonna be trash bro i don't care how good of a song it is if it don't sound good you feel me it's just gonna yeah you got to give it that whip listen you know what I'm saying you got to listen to it in the whip you got to listen to it in the whip you got to listen to it and whip yeah but yeah man it was nice talking to you you appreciate you coming man man shit damn because like you're the closest yeah yeah like man yeah for real
Starting point is 00:42:12 like I don't mind you feel me I just for real this is probably the closest I've been I ain't gonna lie in years to a nigga from 6-0 and this is crazy even the own hood shit I wanted you to say it more I ain't even going to lie to you because I want my homies to see this shit yeah that you can see And you can do this shit, niggin.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Y'all niggas need to make money. And everybody need to get together. Use these platforms we have available for each other so we can work on each other, build each other. You know what I'm saying? So niggins families can grow. You feel me? Nah, for real.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Yeah, on God and have it. For real, my nigga, appreciate you for having the niggum, man. Yeah, on everything. But yeah, they need to see this shit, man. Yeah. But niggas can't be scared to elevate at the same time, too, though. You know what I'm saying? Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:42:58 On hood. Yeah. And still keep a hood at the same time, you feel me? Yeah. Elevate and still keep a hood at the same time. You feel me? Ain't nothing wrong with that shit. Ain't nothing wrong with it.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Yeah. All right, y'all, we gone. We gone.

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