No Jumper - Jack Doherty on Crashing his Lambo, Kissing the Island Boys, Polo G Scamming Him & More

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

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No jumper, coolest podcast on the world, and today we're back. I got my man Remo with me, and we're having to sit down with my man, Jack Doherty. How you feeling? Good. How are you? Chillin, dog. Good to see you. Nice to you, too. I feel like the last time that we did the podcast, you were doing your thing, but it feels like a lot has changed since then.

Yeah, I was a little crazy back then. Yeah, but I feel like since then you really kind of became like publicly, public enemy number one for a period of time like where are you at right now in terms of how you're viewing everything that you got going on i don't know i feel like i'm taking a step back but i feel like you know now in life i can you know i'm like more i don't know like just stable i guess to where i can not have to go as hard and do stupid shit i can like take a step back and really like analyze what i'm doing and just go about things smarter you know not just to not just do things just to do them.

Because I felt like for a while you kind of figured out the whole method of like it's easy to make everybody mad at you. So like, you know, basically rage bait your way into going viral. And it felt like you were kind of pushing that pretty hard for a while and kind of took that like about as far as you could ever take it. Yeah, pretty much. Was that like an intentional? Just like you know, same thing.

It's like you rage baited people so hard. You literally had another guy. Fuck your wife. It's like how much harder. rage bait after that right that's like that was unintentional rage about i didn't know people were gonna care about that holy yeah yeah right people give you the same thing though because your girl was like doing only fans or something right but like that was like like like she didn't start only fans like six months after we were together uh that's one it wasn't like she had an only fan that i got like we were

together the right wing dudes though will treat any girl who does only fans like she's a straight up prostit i had a holy girl for six months though you know flex not i'm kidding a holy girl yeah yeah before she started her life oh okay okay right so you do one who put her on the OF, like way of like, oh, yo, I think this would be good. Yeah, pretty sort of, I mean, like, I mean, obviously, like, it was, like, mutual. Yeah. Because that's one of the other things that they always

throw at you is that they basically make it out as if you're, like, only fans, management shit was, like, primarily, like, aimed at getting girls who were, like, fresh out of high school. Was that, like, a fake narrative from your perspective? Yeah, I mean, most of the girls I work with her, like, older than me, even, like, a lot of them. How old are you right now?

21. Which is why, when a lot of people were saying that, I'm like, Well, that is kind of like his age range. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you and McKinley just broke up recently. Is that real or? Yeah.

You dying about it? You got to be. Because y'all, y'all spent a lot of time together. Yeah, man, it fucking sucked. You know, it's like we spent every day together for two years straight. It's hard to go from like being with someone every day to like zero. You know, it's just like it's a big shift. What was the main root cause?

of that from your perspective. I don't even want to talk about it. You know, I feel like it's just like, I don't know. I don't want to sit on a podcast and just yap about it from my perspective, even though. Yeah. I don't know. It's already so, like, so much is so out there and it's so twisted and stupid already. It's just like, I don't even care to, like, touch up on it anymore.

I'll just leave in the past, move on and just, like, fucking. But, I mean, I guess a lot of people probably wonder, like, are you hurt from a business perspective? Or are you hurt, like, emotionally? Like, that was someone you actually. Way more emotionally than I am business. wise you know it's like money comes and goes like i can make that money back like in like quick you know but it's just like it's more of like the the time we spend together is like something i can't replace with like anyone else you know yeah it's like she was the only person i really saw

like everything i've done the past two years and i don't know it's like been the craziest past years in my life so it's just like uh and she's the last relationship that you'll ever get into when you're like a normal person so like every girl after this you're gonna have to be like a lot more precocious about because you don't know if they just want to get in there, use you for your cloud, then make you look bad on the way out, etc., which is kind of like the game plan for girls

these days. She gets Shannon Sharp you. Literally, it's fucked. Damn. So what do you focus on business-wise right now? Also, those are not opening for me. Is there any way you can send me like a screenshot or something? Yeah, I got you. But so, okay, you're out here. You're doing podcasts.

stuff like what are you focused on right now honestly you got to focus on myself you know what else you supposed to do after a breakup right but that it feels like that big a deal huh so it's like damn that that that was really your was that your first love bro just like say you and your wife broke up it's like you guys are in a serious relationship together and you guys run a business together yeah so it's just like to imagine you guys like part of ways it would be different for a little bit you know you'd have to like lock back in again no I thought about that a lot I was I feel like it took me like a very significant amount of time to even just feel normal again after that yeah no i've really just fucking sucked i've never felt like that ever like never thought i could

feel like that too like it was like crazy like i don't know looking back on it and you have so many like fans and shit or kind of front row seats for all the madness and they're just sort of watching it go down and yeah and then yeah and then the random friends who was that girl that like was on like fucking tm z talking about it i don't even know you said you never even seen it before I don't know, man, so much. I don't even know what the fuck happened, bro. It's insane, but like... The clip that I noticed was the police being at your house.

Why was there even need for... No idea, bro. It's insane. Like, when there's money involved, girls do crazy things, that's all I'm to say. So you're saying Michaela's a gold... No, no, no, no. I'm just going to... The other girl?

Yeah, I mean, no, no, no. I mean, bro, it's just like girls are girls, bro. It's like, I really realize that, like, this past month, like, God damn, like, I don't know. Last question I do have about it, though. You said at one point you was giving her $500,000 a month? No, no, no. We were making like that.

Yeah. All right, for sure. Damn. Damn. Nah, I feel like, I don't know. It just seems like this is probably room for y'all to get back together and shit, right? I don't know.

But she was on stream with another shit yesterday, and it was titled like, Jack Doherty's new girlfriend? Is that your new girl, or that's just somebody who's just fucking around with? I'm just chilling right now, man. You know, it's just like we literally just broke up a month ago. I'm not rushing in anything right now Are you guys still talking?

No No you haven't been speaking at all I mean it's weird because it's kind of like your business That you have to make content with girls right? Yeah It's kind of like always been like that Hasn't really been like that big of a problem But you know just had to respect to her while we were in a relationship

Like I didn't like fucking You know like Go out of my way to like make her like jealous or uncomfortable for a clip Like I was respectful towards her you know Right But in that case yeah Serious shit now But it's just like, fuck, I don't know, live streaming shit.

And then, like, everything, like, it's just like, fuck. It's hard to have a relationship, live stream, we're on business together. It's so many moving pieces at once. It's just like there's not a second where it's just like one of those things isn't going through your mind. You know, it's just it's a lot. And all the arguments and shit are happening on camera and everyone else has like an opinion on what the fuck's going on. Yeah. That type of up.

Yeah. What's the hardest thing about the streaming life? What do you think the hardest thing to the kid that wants to be a streamer right now that's looking at, that's looking at you and everyone else i guess for like like people just starting it's probably just like honestly starting out and finding a path to go where you can just like feel like you have something to do and like do every day you know yeah but i feel like for me it's like that's not the hard part it's just like i don't know just like live streaming for so long and then also you know carrying a team of people with you everywhere it's just like it's hard like it's just like it's

you have to worry about everyone else while live streaming making sure everything's working like also trying to entertain people like it's just i don't know it's a lot of moving pieces but it's it's it's easy but it's also just like pretty like it's stressful too sometimes like just a lot like uh yeah like they always have that argument about streamers or it's like what's harder being a streamer or having a regular job and then people with regular jobs get super offended by the idea that streamers act like their job is harder i'm sorry it's 10 times harder being a streamer or content career. Like when I look at the lifestyle of like a lot of the top Twitch streamers and shit, I'm like, bro, a regular person has no idea how difficult it is to command a fucking audience

10 hours a day and to do that over and over and over. And when I see the schedule that some of these people do, it's just like, it's astonishing to me. And that and that's me being a person who does a ton of content in the first place. But like, I get to have time in between. Then you sit down, you do an interview. It's like an intense hour and a half. And then you go back to your normal life. It's like being a streamer, like when I see with DDG doing those like 24 hour streams for a month at a time, like this shit is unreal. Yeah, no, it's exhausting. Definitely like, I feel like it definitely affects your personal life. Yeah.

You definitely did. But I don't know. At the end day, it's like what I do for a living. So it's just like I kind of like, I don't know, just keep going. Definitely. Are you still enjoying it? Yeah. You still having fun.

I feel like you have to, you know, it's just like I really get to live my life for a living. So it's just like, yeah, I can't think too negatively about it. So obviously, when you're going through a sort of huge negative controversy storm, like the thing with you crash in the Lambo, does that affect you? Like, is that fucking you up mentally? Are you upset about the fact that you've got all these people going viral for talking shit about you? Or are you at the point where you can kind of ignore it? Yeah, I mean, I definitely like, I'm at the point where I can kind of ignore it. But I wouldn't say anything really like gets to me, you know?

Like if it did, I probably wouldn't have come so far, you know? But certain, a lot of people have like. like opinions that are just like totally insane but then also people have like pretty valid opinions too that I like read the comments I'm like damn like I should reflect on that and probably not do that again or you know try to learn from it but yeah I mean live streaming like your whole life obviously everyone makes mistakes so it's just like fuck when you do at least the whole internet can talk shit and you can learn from it yeah the biggest all backlash you was getting for the the Lamborghini accident was that

you still having your cameraman film it yeah And that's what everyone was mad about. Yeah, that's something I probably would not do again. But he loves that shit. He probably made him feel better. No, I can't get it. That's him right there. Oh, yeah.

He's still a legend. Yeah, for real. All right, for sure. It's just like, I feel like we're just different. Like, we do this every day. It's like no normal person would do that. But it's just like instincts for us. Like, he literally pulled out his phone the second we crashed.

We both did. We're like, fuck it. Because we're alive. We're okay. And then, yeah. I mean, like a normal person thinks something bad happened, you should stop filming. But if you're, a streamer and content creator the mentality is the opposite it's like oh we we just filmed like three

hours of relatively boring content something bad just happened we got to make sure we capture this yeah you'd be the shittiest content creator ever to crash your fucking supercar and not record yeah yeah what are you doing sorry but like that's what that's just what everyone wants to see like but but not in like a fucked up way but it's just like we live our lives for a living if something bad or crazy happens in our life it's like you film it's like that's what people want to see they want to see the real shit but Yeah But you said you still would have changed

Yeah I probably wouldn't have gone about it like that Like fuck like Went viral enough like you could have stopped filming a little earlier Yeah yeah I feel it But I don't know That's just some shit like damn like you look back on And there's a million things you would have done differently But yeah I mean

Not many There's not many situations like that that would happen But for me when I'm in that situation It feels like I don't really care about you know 50,000 random people who like the tweet hating on me but it's like people you know kind of turn on you and start making content about you that makes you look worse than they have to. Yeah. And that's always kind of a weird thing even though you're all in the same game of like making content about shit.

But that's always kind of the harder thing to deal with is just realizing that people you actually fuck with or that you thought. And then they'd be like talking shit about something you do that they also do where it's just like bro. Like everybody, everyone tries to be like they're perfect, but they're not say shit about everyone. why do you think a lot of the other streams be trying to hate on you and shit? Because they're jealous. Yeah. I mean, everything, all hate, I feel like

is stem by jealousy at the end of the day. It's like, I can post a video and me staring out of fucking watching paint dry and people will find a way to shit on me. Just be like, fuck this kid, he's going broke or just something. Like, it always has to do with money. But okay, like, when you're going viral

for like the clip of you walking through the mall with your security guards, kind of like, and you're like kind of starting shit or bumping into people and the security guards are like backing you up or whatever. That's not really like jealousy. They actually think you're an asshole.

Yeah, but they also are just, retarded because they're not even real videos like it's just like I don't know like I'm just rage baiting like yeah I'm just trolling but then you can't really like blame them for falling for it of course not I just think it's funny having an emotional response like they're grown ass people on twitter like 30s 40s I can type in paragraphs on Twitter about like a I was like 19 18 at the time like bro like go back to work or something but those are all like intentional and set up because I feel like some of them like there was one way you're like with your security by the water and you get an argument because you're like swearing and you're like swearing

and some guy's mad because his daughter was hearing you swear or some shit like i didn't even swear though that's the thing it's like i'm walking i'm just talking i said frick everything's on video and the guys thought i said fuck and i didn't and i kept walking and i was just talking him and i kept walking and then he saw my security guard shirt that said like fuck you you fucking fuck on it like of course like he had that on everybody and then he goes and he pivots to my security guard and goes well his shirt says fuck on it and i'm like bro your kids probably can't even read and then because they can and then some old guy like i guess his dad whatever came out of nowhere like some grandpa guy just like out of nowhere just like fucking grabs me about my shirt and goes like that

and then like i didn't like touch him bro like i literally did nothing like i didn't curse this guy just yelled at me for something i didn't even do and i just fending myself and kept walking i didn't try to start a problem like i never tried to start problems i'm just going about my day damn so all the context comes and gets removed from some of those clips that's interesting but it's like i didn't start that you know i was just i didn't walk up to that guy and approach and trying to instigate something it's like he dead ass started a fight with us and then that other guy put his hands on me for no reason it's like people just look at everything i do in like the worst way possible but like i don't know so you're still getting sued for

a kong the security guard uh knocking that fool out um i don't know you're not sure if you're getting sued what are you the feds i mean that's a civil lawsuit that's not like the feds department right yeah But that was kind of wild. But like, so you're being held accountable for his actions in that case? I don't know what I could say about that. I don't know if I should talk about that. Yeah, that's probably a good point. You know?

Yeah. You've been smoking a lot of dope to deal with the madness? Yeah. Yeah. How long have you been smoking? You've always been smoking or? So I was like 15. But I got to quit.

I'm quitting. Yeah, yeah. I was going to quit the day before we broke up and fuck we broke up. I like burnt a pound the day before. And then I bought a pound the next day. Yeah. Yeah, because I was going to quit. What did you do?

You threw it in a fire? No, I dumped it on the floor in my neighbor's driveway and then lit it all up and then, yeah. Damn, that's rage bait right there. That can make me rude to. Yeah, but that's the way to quit, though. It's like if you, because then you, like, wasted a lot of money, so then you're not going to want to buy another pound. Yeah, I've seen a lot of people dump out pints of lean and then be back to drink and lean like a couple months later. Yeah.

That's a rapper thing. Fuck. Okay. Um, do you watch the hate documentaries that people make about you or is that just not even interesting to you? Which ones? Shit, I don't know. I see the thumbnails. I love that one.

Those ones, I love it. I love his videos, but like, when he makes them on me, I'm like, damn, but I fuck with him. You don't know, I'm a moist critical. They do be, like, hell of hateful. Like, they can, like, I get where they're coming from for sure. It's funny videos. And I'm not like, oh, fuck them for hating on me. Like, I get it.

You know, it's just, like, it's content. But some of the things are a little, like, over the top, like, hateful. but it's whatever it's what's the narrative is that you're like all right that's not true for the record penguins is most critical oh that is same guy okay charlie yeah where yeah what's some shit out there that you've seen people say that you're like yeah that's totally not true everything i feel like people really don't know me but i don't know there's not nothing like specifically like there's a lot of things people say so it's hard for me to really think of something specifically you know do you have a master plan to like make people know know the

real you or are you perfectly fine? Yeah, I mean, I'm only 21, you know, it's like, if you think of like Jake Paul, whatever, it's like he had his like little arc. It's like I'm getting there. He was really masterfully rage baiting back in the day like when people were going to his house all the time and like the news van was outside his house and he like got on top of the van and shit. That was like prime time Jake Paul trying to be the most hated man in America and it was working great. And I think he realized at a certain point that he didn't really want to be that. But then he ultimately ended up getting into boxing, which is kind of like a sport where it's perfectly acceptable for you to just be hated

and to make everybody dislike you. Yeah, I mean, I definitely want to do something where, you know, one day, like slowly I'm going to, like right now I don't go out of my way to like be a fucking asshole. Like I don't try to be very nice. You know, I know people have a little stigma about me online.

I want to change the narrative. But so I try to be nicer, you know, do better things with my money, like give back and stuff. and stay out of trouble. But. Did you see this shit where Kyle from Nook? He said that he thinks you're, like, more hated than Jake Paul during that era.

Everyone, did you see that? I think it was a podcast. I did. I saw, yeah. But I mean, do you feel like you're more hated than? Bro, and he's 30 years old and still fucking antagonizes people for pranks. Like, and he's a multi-millionaire. Like, bro, you don't got to be doing that anymore.

I don't even do that anymore. Like, I don't go out and prank people anymore. Like, I'm 21. Kyle. Kyle. I feel like Kyle kind of fell back on the pranks for the most part. He did, of course, 100%, but he also is way older than us and still does it. So it's just like, I don't know.

I feel like he's talked shit in that era. I mean, in that sense, but like he does the same thing. But like, if not worse. Pranks are one thing, but I feel like a lot of your shit. People don't regard it as pranks. They regard it as you just being the biggest asshole possible. Give me an example. Bumping into people in the mall.

Those are actors. I know, but like, it's almost like that excuse doesn't matter because people aren't going to really believe you. What? That makes no sense. So all. proof that they're actors though you can see those same people in multiple of my videos and videos with the girls but even with you saying that right now it's like we all know that this clip

is not going to go viral whereas those clips went super viral so it's almost like it doesn't really matter what's true because yeah and that's why at the time i didn't even say that because like i don't i just thought it was funny like i was like one day i'm gonna say because like when it won't matter it's like now if i say it's like all right people aren't gonna be like oh like i'll never watch a jackdory video again it's like bro i just i don't care i mean to be fair there that is the kind thing that yeah pisses people off but I feel like you can still come back from that where I was like with the island boys I don't think they could ever come back

yeah they're also just like retarded they made out with each other yeah yeah I just feel like that they did more than make out of each other bro they are weird as fuck they were they gave each other head or was that a care who the fuck knows but like bro I seen this strip well stream Kenny and him said that you gave them I did a kiss is that true no I don't think so I think they were lying because at the press conference they said that they got

14 million dollars from an eight from an only fan's agency to kiss each other which is like that is not how that works like no only fans agency is going to say, hey, we're going to advance you this huge amount of money. So, but all you have to do is make out. Yeah, they're dumbest fuck. That's not how that works. No, what really happened was.

They made 14 million, which I also don't believe. I don't think there's enough gay men in America for them to make 14 million off that. Yeah, no. I know the whole story behind you. I know how much they all made. And, like, they only lasted on the only fans a couple months where they got banned, but they got 14 million. Yeah. Work.

Yeah. Yeah. But they were doing pretty well for, like, a month or two. Like, they were making, like, a mill a month. Like, a month. month a month and a half but it only lasted a month and a half like so they probably made like two three male each at most and they got banned

for doing incest yeah pretty much probably honestly doesn't even surprise me because I know like girls that are twins and they're like super careful about like they could do a porn scene but they can't like touch each other and shit because of that exact reason damn but I mean I feel like you

kind of like breathe new life into the island boys yeah you kind of like res sparked their career for sure yeah they don't like having people like from a business sense that I can help help them and stuff. I thought you were managing them at one point.

It seemed like you were like, well, they were with creators, right? I was getting a little cut off them for a little bit. Yeah, when they lasted. Making money off incest. Yeah, respect.

I was just off my cut. I was like, holy shit. Like this is lit. And then fuck, they got banned. I'm like, God damn it.

I would have done it. I would sign them up. Yeah, no. But, uh, they didn't even know. No,

you still talk to them or no, that is how it works. You sign people up and you get your commission and you just don't mention it to them. Like, you don't want to them. They're just fucking, like, retarded idiots. But you don't talk to them at all anymore? I do every now and then they're cool.

For content? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they are walking, talking, content machines, that's for sure. No, they're probably watching the skin. They're going to call me and be like, dude, you just said I'm a retarded idiot. Now, you're cool, but you're cool. Yeah, they're going to have to make content of it for sure.

They'll be on your stream. Yeah. The other day, like, I accidentally clicked on the Snapchat link or accidentally And they came up on like the Snapchat page that like one of like fly soldier and his girl have like a joint Snapchat account and they're just posting like family stuff all the time and I sat there for like 10 minutes watching it. It was like the most boring pathetic content I've ever seen in my life. No offense. You guys are you guys are great.

But holy fuck are you guys lame. Just I can't can't lie. Yeah, they kind of just sit in the room and just go live on TikTok now. Hmm. How's all the great minds of our generation do? you know um how you feel about me hooking up with your brother yeah that was fucking random but who said that up i don't know but i remember my brother was like yo adam 22 wants to do some gay shit with me i'm like i wasn't surprised but i was more like with he wants to do with

you like that's just random but okay yeah my uh my PR guy is gay and he was like basically made like a little list of like the top gay only fans creators that we could potentially do it with and he's like well this one's jack torte's brother i'm like why Wow, really? That's sick. I'm like, that makes it way better, yeah. Literally. That was funny.

So you didn't even know who that was before the interview? Uh, I didn't interview them, but we just did this photo shoot together and stuff. I knew because they told me like, yo, this is one guy that you could do it with. In retrospect, I probably should have done it with a black guy. Why? I just think it would have been funnier to people. Jason Love. But I don't think anybody would believe that he was gay.

Yeah. Yo, so are you banned from Kicksdale? Yeah. All right, so you got banned from Kik like multiple times. What was the first reason you got banned in the first place? The McLaren crash. All right, and then they were,

while they were mad that you were still streaming? I guess so. I don't know. There was an accident. It was a car accident. But then they let you back on the platform. Yeah, like three months later. And then you got banned because of that one dude

who smacked you in the face. Yeah. And what's the big deal with that? You defendants yourself. Yeah, exactly. That's how I said. I'm like, bro, like, it's like that's happening in the past before someone smacked me I did nothing about it

everyone calls me a bitch then someone smacks me and then I do something about it and now I'm banned like what like how do I win out of that situation what was there was it like reasons that they said like fighting on because I'm I seen like there's a whole I guess so something like that yeah but it's just like I don't know for something like that especially when you're live like yeah I get it it it happened on live but right after it like we end the stream and deleted it so yeah because we know the platform like you know we would get banned for it or something like and they don't like like that so we did that but it's just when you're live it's like I don't know when someone's gonna come up and fucking hit me like so I shouldn't

be able to get banned for something like that that's just the crazy part I thought people were real getting hit and kick them shit all the time we used to all the time I don't know what happened to then they got all about being the platform where you could now it's party dot com that's why yeah so that's where you transfer that you can you can do whatever you want there I've never gotten banned never will get banned like who owns party dot com Brian who's Brian great guy Brian Yeah. Damn. I never heard of it.

Shit, I hit him on. Yeah. So Eddie, all right, does Aiden and Ross have percentage ownership in Kik or what's all? I'm not sure, probably, though. I mean, kick for sure, right? Yeah, yeah, right? Yeah. What's you on Aidan's relationship?

I don't know. Y'all not really friends or anything? Nah. Yeah, so you and like none of the streamers really get along at all home. Who do you consider a friend from the whole streaming world? Because it seems like there's packs of people who hang out, clicks and shit, but you don't even know. I feel like it's just like, I don't know, I have a small circle. It's hard to be friends with like these people, you know.

It's like everyone does. Everyone's super busy. We all do our own things. It's like, I can't really keep up with people, you know? Yeah. Only two people I really worry about calling every day or my mom and my dad and everything else just like you set up as collab and that's really it. And then I don't know, I kind of just collab with people, you know.

Yeah, I do my own thing. But just like, you know, like I'm here. We're filming. It's not we're going to go fucking hang out like every day the next week, you know? So we got our own lives and shit. That is weird. Because like normal people, like, like go out to dinner with each other or like yeah we don't really have time for that it's like

i gotta go out to dinner with like my family or my girlfriend or something before i go out with like yeah i don't i want to honestly like i feel like i have more time for that now which would be like nice to but i don't know like being in relationship too i feel he takes you away from a lot of people no that i've seen that happen to a million people in my life they get a girlfriend all of a sudden we don't really see them anymore yeah that's always a consistent thing i realized that when i like when we broke up I was like damn like now I have a lot more time myself I was like going to like hang out with my friends more like even just hang out with like actual like I don't know like like I would go to like Antonio Brown's house or like fucking trippy Red's house like off stream like actually hanging out

with people type shit you know like where when I was in a relationship I wouldn't like do that you know yeah like uh because I'm just like after a stream I would just go hang out like my girl you know because I'm just like fine with that and just chill but like now that I don't have anyone to hang out I go like hang out with like people I wouldn't normally like just chill with. I would normally stream with them but I wouldn't like hang out with them, you know? So there's two ways you can go after a breakup. You could either like try to just find happiness being by yourself or you could fuck as many girls as possible. Or that or that too, yeah.

In search, yeah. No, I'm okay. But, uh, now there was a new chick that she was all colored up with on stream that looked just like McKinley. Did she wear? Send me the clip. Oh, let me find it. No, I'm kidding. You know exactly what the fuck I'm talking about.

Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's not your girl and thing. It was, they tired of it, like this is your new girlfriend, but it was probably just somebody

you was hanging out with it on the stream. I mean, like, yeah, we've been hanging out, but like, I'm not like, no,

like, I don't know, we're not like, I'm not like rushing in anything, you know, like, I'm just, I literally just got out of relationship.

I'm just chilling. I got a lot of, my own stuff. I got to focus on too. And I never even want to be a relationship from the first place. You know, I was always super against it.

Like, I've seen like, all these like YouTubers and stuff again relationships and then completely fall off you know but I never let that happen like if anything we like kind of brought her on with me and then like we went up together that's like I never wanted to let a girl like interfere with what I had going on you know I worked super hard to get to where I'm at you know I've been doing this for 10 12 years especially you're signing girls it's kind of awkward to like just choose up on one of them yeah so like over time like I kind of like just put in more my focus into her like because of that

You know? Right. And then, yeah. Where's it out with neon right now? I don't know. I haven't spoke to in a minute. But we were supposed to box each other, but I don't know happen to that. You swung on him one time.

That was serious, right? Yeah. All right, what the fuck? Where did y'all? Did you used to manage Sam Frank? Yeah. Before he was staying here? Yeah.

All right. So yeah, break that now. So how did you even discover her? We grew up together. Oh, really? We lived like really a minute away from each other in the same neighborhood. We went to, like, elementary school together. Oh, so we've known each other forever.

You never made out with her on the playground or something? No, I know. No, we actually like, no, no. All right, so you guys, elementary friends grew up together and shit. So then you started bringing her around and like, hey, I can manage and help your career out. Like, how did that? Or it was just a friendship. Yeah, I mean, um, yeah, I was like super into YouTube and, you know, when I was like 15, 16, we were, like making videos together and stuff.

And that's how, like, she kind of, like, became, like, a character in my channel. and then once we graduated high school and I moved to L.A. Like six months after, like she moved in. And then from there, we just, like, I grew her social media accounts and then, yeah. The neon thing is crazy because it feels like he was like big early on. Like, everybody was like real hyped on this character that he was playing of just being like the meanest, shittiest person ever. And then he like admittedly fell off for a while.

And now it feels like he's just back crazy, just doing like nonstop crazy content with all the biggest celebrities and shit like every day yeah he's that I haven't seen I see neon on social media like I like block the hashtag neon TikTok I don't want to see his face oh y'all hate each other hate each other nah I just like

so where does the beast stand from is it over Sam Frank or it was a clip of you where you swung on him and like if he didn't duck you would have knocked that thing out like he fucking ducking perfect time and like you would knock him out like you've swung like really shot to like knock him yeah I don't know I guess that's probably why

I guess because, like, I, maybe we shouldn't have, like, fought because, like, Sam, I guess, you know, because we were, like, close friends. So I guess, you know, they were dating. So it's like, I guess, yeah, that's fucked. But, um, it was both ways, though, you know, but I get it. But, hey, I don't know. But why swing on him? What happened? What was it?

What was that up to that? Um, I don't know. I forgot. I think I, so much shit. I, I don't know. Like, try to, like, press me over some shit. And then I pushed them. And then, like, a security guard, like, tacked.

like tackled me. Oh, and then, like, was like holding me down. And then, and then, like,

and then I got up and I just wanted a security guard, punched him in the face. And then I don't know what happened after that. And then I tried to find him again to,

like, fight him because the security guard stepped in the first time. And then I chased him down. And right as I was about to fucking punch him, a security guard turn around. Like,

fuck. Yeah. But I was, I'm down at a box, bro. He backed out of the last, the last fight. We had a contract.

We both were both going get paid a pretty good amount of money. we both signed it a week before the fight he backs out oh you're training for it and everything no i wasn't even trained for it because i didn't need to you want you to train you know no it's just me quick bag like easy i would train no matter bro he weighs like at the time i think you weighed like 30 pounds less to me yeah we're gonna fight at like 140 and he was he weighed 120 i had to lose like 10 pounds he had to gain 20 and i was like no way he's gaining 20 pounds like yeah he is like a fucking skeleton to be literally you hit him one time like he's going down he's one of those dudes where

you go to like give him a little pound like a little hug or whatever and you realize like oh shit like you can break his fucking bow around like he's like just very time he hit him one time in the ribs or somewhere he's knocked out yeah him in a boxing match probably he's like an island boy bro like they'd be actually a good fight they're the same like bone density nah i feel like they've scrapped in the past they were bloods who oh no shot you saw how he fought in that boxing match oh i might miss that actually yeah damn but i i feel like that that i feel like that era was like such a sick era of like you foosy island boys all in a house and then you're just like fighting each i know but everyone's egos these days are so high like we can't get all in the same room again

so you can't put that kind of thing together anymore i mean we can we actually just did the craziest stream ever i just like broke a record on my stream on party um like two days ago with uh like these crazy ass girls and like josh block whatever we hit like 100k live viewers was insane well but uh yeah that was the craziest stream ever but it's just like you just got to evolve to like new groups like you know like the island boys kind of like fell off in a way like they just stay in the room you know it's just like how clipped up can you get sitting in your room all day like asking for galaxies on tic-tok so it's like yeah i mean they kind of do that to themselves so yeah i feel like if you're then it's got to stop being appetizing to go on people's streams at a certain point because

you just realize like the only thing that they could possibly get out of you that's going to move the needle is just something that's going to be humiliating as fuck for you even though i i feel Like also they don't really even probably care that much because they're just so used to that being their dynamic at this point. Yeah. Like Fusi did a month long stream where he didn't eat the whole time for a month. Yeah, that was crazy. I could believe he actually did that. I kept seeing it on YouTube with like 100 live viewers.

And I'm like, how the fuck is Fusi only getting 100 live viewers at this point? You think he's viewbott? Yeah, for sure. To get to 100? I mean, I don't know. He's got 10 real ones. He's viewbun 90 fake ones. Maybe you couldn't afford the VBots.

Yo, is everybody viewbond? Is that, like, a massive problem in the streaming world? Yeah, I'm pretty sure everybody viewbots. It's pretty fucking obvious. I don't even know who to believe it about. I feel like back then no one did it though. Yeah. Like it was like, yo, like legit, everyone was fucking really getting like crazy viewers.

But then I feel like, I don't know, live streaming kind of, everyone kind of revolved to clips. But like someone like Fusi, like he was like on live on cake with 20,000 people watching them like all the time. And then he gets banned off kick. or whatever and all of a sudden he's on YouTube he's got like 100 viewers I'm just like so those 20,000 were definitely fake considering his YouTube channel has like 10 million subscribers if only a hundred of those people are down to watch him starve himself for a month which is something that I didn't even think was possible I mean that really says a lot how do you feel about people who accuse you of you buying because I don't have seen you like

addressing and shit I don't care yeah the end of day I have like real live viewers so it's like that's all it really matters you know it's like anyone can view bought your shit like Yeah, you can put 100K live viewers on Fusi's shit right now if you wanted to, you know? Yeah. That is the tricky part. You could do it to other people to make them look crazy. Exactly. Although, how much is it cost?

Is it prohibitive that it costs too much to do that to people? Yeah, what is that? Cost price. I see people do it all the time to people, so I'm sure there's like people that can just do it for free. Oh, yeah. Unless like they're just wasting money, like to just troll someone, which isn't like, I don't know what they're doing that for. But I would do that to an op. But it's not like that's not even like,

them look stupid. It's not even making them look stupid. It's just like, it's like people understand, you know? Yeah. Yeah. But I feel like I love it. Because like sometimes you're like in the middle of live streams,

someone like bought the chat and like promote themselves to like make the whole chat spam like their fucking cash app or like their Instagram. So like that's kind of like probably what they pay for to you. But like self promo. So you think you ever get unbanned from kick this time or you're just done with it and going straight? Probably eventually. But like I'm not, I don't really care about it right now. I'm just focused on party right now. Yeah.

Yeah. What's the party bag like? It's pretty good. Pretty good. Yeah. You know, I see y'all running it up and shit. So the stream that you have with, what's the dude, Josh? Yeah.

World of T-shirts. World of T-shirts. Yeah. Yeah, he's the best. What's your homie Santos or some shit? Yeah. He was like him and old dude was getting like getting at it. Yeah, I don't know what he was doing, bro.

It's like I told him all like, don't touch Josh. Like, I know he put his hands on everybody. Like, bro, he did, like, throw a glass at his hands. I was, like, punch him. Like, his lip was bleeding. Like, his arm was everything. It was insane. But, like, I still was, like, you guys just can't touch him.

Like, he's off limits. Like, you, like, they also just, like, they antagonize him. Like, you can't, like, fucking say certain shit to him. Like, they got to realize, like, you know, you just don't. I don't know. Put the fries in the bag. Yeah, you're a fucked up. No, I can't get it.

No, I mean, he, that's, like, one of the many things that he'll get, like, super. Yeah, no, he, like, crashed out of that. It's fucked. but you see like people roam in the streets in New York or at these colleges that he visits and stuff and they'll just be screaming it at him to the point where he flips out it's pretty fucked up to take advantage of this dude who has a pretty obvious disability

and you're just like following around torturing him yeah I mean that's the most fucked apart is like people like grown ass adults like fucking with him to like try to get a reaction out of him and yeah he has autism it's just like what are you doing yeah like the most hardcore autism you could ever imagine.

Yeah. I mean, I try to help him out. Like, the first, like, the day I met him, I hit up the people at party.com, and they got him like a 300k a year live streaming deal within like two days and me meeting him. Yeah. And is he actually doing it? Yeah. Whoa.

Yeah, you've been like traveling everywhere now and stuff. Like, he's making, because he's making a lot more money and he's here in L.A. right now. Really? Yeah. I wonder what he's doing. We're streaming. On stream with him. Oh, for real?

I've been on stream like last two, three days, right? Yeah, yeah. Is Mr. Baste out of the pitcher? I don't know what's happening with him. Because Mr. Bace, like, after he did no jumper, after Josh did no jumper, Mr. Bace, like, basically told him, like, they were taking advantage of you. They're fucked up. People excited.

Like, completely convinced this poor kid that we did something fucked up to him. And then, I mean, never really heard from him again after that. But Mr. Bace is definitely, like, one of the most evil people of all time. Him getting his hands on Josh's, I mean, I don't know. I don't even know what to say about that. Um, yo, there was like a stream where, uh, I don't know if you were like donating the Kossinat or some shit. And he was like, uh, he said that, oh, yeah, I'm just finesse and Jack Doordy. I wouldn't do a stream with him or something.

I was just sending subs because my live viewers are going up like crazy. Like I went from like fucking like 5K to like 30K like from those subs. And then I was just promoting my party off it. But yeah, it was one way. So y'all don't, you don't have like a friendship or relationship? No, I've never really like talked to him, but I don't have anything against him. I don't really have anything against anyone, where, like, I just, everything's content to me. Like, I don't know.

Yeah, I seem like, it feel like you, you get more hate than that's deserved. I mean, I guess people who don't know that it's fucking pranks and shit, they see all the shit. And they're like, oh, yeah, he's just a scumbag ass motherfucker. Yeah, no, I get it, though. It's like, I played into it, like, really, really hard, you know? But, yeah, now I'm at the point where it's like, all right, everyone knows me. So it's like, how can I, like, use that to, like, make him know me in a better way, you know? A better way.

Like, doing the streams. Because it's hard to get your eyes. eyes on you for doing good things. It's like, what good, when are you scrolling on Instagram and like you're actually reading about something like good that someone did, you know,

like it's very rare. It's like, so you kind of got to get it to the point where it's like a shock. I don't know, like in a way where it's like, right, if Jack already does something good, like how do you make it viral? Yeah.

Yeah. I seen you and Pump was giving out, I mean, it was viral in a way. Yeah, yeah. I gave out a PS5. That's what I'm trying to do. Like complaining about it.

or she wanted an extra one. What was it? Yeah, no, I bought like 30 PS5s and then like a ton of other stuff. Like I filled the U-Haul truck full of gifts for Christmas and I had like all my fans pull up and I was just giving back to people

and one of the people that we gave a PS5 to wanted two. Like she wanted one for both of her kids and we're like just telling her, hey, there's like there was like 500 people there. It's like we have to give one per family because, you know, there's so many other people here that want a PS5. We can't give you two.

And she like crashed out like just went off. and then low pump went off on her too. Like as he should, because it's just like, what are you doing? You just got a free PS5 and there's so many other families here waiting for one too.

And I don't know. Like your acting like that, but. And then a week later, I was eating dinner at the Hard Rock and I go to use the bathroom and she's like, was waiting outside the dinner place

and just starts screaming in my face. I thought she was going to fucking hit me. I was like, oh my God. Like, I literally gave you a PS5 and like now I'm getting, getting yelled at. She's like,

you guys, made me look fucking dumb. I'm like, bro, all I did was give you a PS5. Like, I brought that girl to front of the line to give her and her family a PS5. And then she finds me at dinner and starts fucking screaming my face. And I didn't even say anything to her, even when she was acting greedy at the time. Like, I, I let her be, like, I didn't want to start a problem with her. And she still, like, went out of her way to, like, yell at me. I'm like, damn, like, people are just greedy as hell. How did she find stream snitcher or something? I was just, maybe like, an Instagram story or something.

Or, damn, so you wasn't even on stream. Like, you had a hard way to find you that hard. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. She was looking for a moment. Yeah. I was looking for another PS5. Tight. Yo, so there was also, like, you got, like, backlash and shit.

They said that you pay, like, uh, PoloG, like, $200,000 to perform, and he did, like, two songs or some shit. I didn't pay him $200,000. I also didn't even, like, pay for it out of my pocket. Or. That was a creator's party or something? Um, I had, like, the party.com. They sponsored it.

Oh. Yeah. Shoutout party. com. W. party.com. So was that 100% real?

Was he just like not feeling the vibe at the party and he just decided to dip out early? I don't know. Yeah. Maybe, uh, maybe it's just,

I don't know. I don't think he wasn't like fiving, but like he was, uh, was he paid to perform or was it the walkthrough? Maybe he felt like he didn't get, I don't know, maybe he felt like he didn't get enough.

Yeah, because some rappers, they, they, it's a thing where they get paid to do walkthroughs and they get paid to perform. And they're walk through, performance be different than their yeah yeah yeah so was it that type of thing where like he got there

and it was like oh i'm just supposed to show up and then i gave him a mic i don't know i just had a boy like a friend of mine and just like hooked it up you know all right so wasn't like you personally yeah yeah it was just like i don't really know what to really expect and shit but he just said he'd perform which he didn't like i think you did good you know what's the oh most amount of money you think you spent on the stream like one stream the little baby one how much was that i mean just to get him to perform it was 200 grand and then just and then the rest of the party was probably another 100 150k word yeah yeah is that a recoupable like no yeah it's a great experience so you know

but that was your money that wasn't no I didn't pay that either oh okay for a little bit of it because we went a little over budget probably 50 grand but like yeah other than that and it's just party trying to like get their platform popping so they're throwing a budget out type of it that was a different uh sponsor that was uh um my guy dave from turned up he he He hooked that one up. That was fire. That was like the best night of my life. That was so cool because I love Little Baby.

I need a sponsor that's going to give me $200 grand to give to a little baby to just hang out with him for a little while. Hey, Dave from Turned Up. Yeah, Dave. Whatever the fuck turned up is. Anchor. You got to talk. Yes, sir. Now he's lit.

Great guy. You should go on his podcast. He just started a podcast. Should you give me $200 grand and friendship with Little Baby. I'm there. Yeah. Wow. Okay.

Um, so yeah, and like, there was this crazy dirt bike incident that you had as well where you fucked your shoulder up. Yeah, I just broke my collarbone. It's still broken. Yeah, what happened with that? Like, were you just whaling out? You drunk? You drink? No.

Never. I don't drink. Okay. I drink yesterday. But I've gone, like, before then, like, I go, like, months without drinking. Like, I don't drink. I hate it because I live stream. I hate how I act drunk on stream, so I just don't drink.

Yeah. And I also just am so busy. It's just, like, hard for me to drink and then wake up the next day and, like, do what I got to do, so I just don't drink. I just smoke. But. I feel like smoke is bad for streaming. But I can keep going. Like, I can, it gets me going, you know?

Yeah. Like, I don't know. Otherwise, you've got to fucking pace around. Like, I'm still, I need something like, I don't know. Either calm me down or I need to be doing something. I'm sitting down talking. I should be pacing around talking. He said that every stream is on Adderall.

Yeah. Yeah. You include it or not? Hmm. how was you think I can smoke blunts all day the fuck I'm kidding yeah I'll feel it weed and outerall that's a good combo I ain't done adderall it's so fucking long I don't even remember what that was like

yeah same but so but uh the shoulder thing like that's all right or like was that just an example of you just whaling the fuck out in trying to get content and you just overshot this jump I was just it was two in the morning I was just bored so me and Michael went out to ride the dirt bikes and I was just hitting this jump. I did it like probably 50 times

and I just kept trying to go higher and farther and farther and then I went like head first and I landed literally on my head and my shoulder and yeah I broke my collarbone it's like literally sticking out still. That's the worst feeling on the world the collarbone, oh my God. It was the most painful thing that's ever happened to me

like I was in more pain the first week than the first day like it was it just got worse like it was so bad I never thought I was just going to get better. I always say that when I broke my collarbone I was like the worst pain I ever had You had to like a G though Because when you broke it

You couldn't tell that I had so much adrenaline But right after that video I'm on the floor Like passed out Like my whole body I started sweating like crazy Like it was like

I don't know what was happening Like I was just like It was the worst It was so scary Like I just got so lightheaded Like I almost passed out Like I literally did pass out for a second Like it was scary

But yeah At first I had so much adrenaline I popped my helmet off And shit. I did that for the clip. I was like let him know it was me. But yeah, it was pretty late. But I'll never do that again. I regret it. Was all right? There was a video. I guess it was on Christmas where, uh, I guess you said your house got broken into and they stole your presents. Yeah. We were just, no, no, no. That's how I was just bored. Like so much hate, bro, because there was so many people happy that they broke into your house and stole your shit. I'm like, bro, there's no way that there's that many comments of people being happy that someone broke into me on Christmas. I was just bored on Christmas. I was just bored on Christmas. And we had a lot of time because, like, I was waiting for everybody. Like, all my friends and stuff to be done opening presents with their family to, like, come open.

Like, all of us open our presents together. And so we've had so much time in today. I was like, yeah, let's just pretend like we got robbed and posted on TikTok and went crazy. And yeah, did good. But just like little shit like that. Like, it's just like, I don't know. It's just like all we did was move the Christmas presents from under the Christmas stream. Boom, like fucking 100 million views.

Like everyone thinks he got robbed. Everyone posted. I mean, once you get into that mentality of just. Just faking shit for clips. Yeah, it's like, you can kind of, like, you see that clip of like phase banks, like, clip farming, like, three or four things in the course of, like, a couple minutes. And he's like, he's like, he's just doing it on stream, but he's like, dirty, bro.

Start a family. Oh, right. You got beef with him, too, right? But he always has shit to say about me. Yeah. I don't like just randomly bring up someone and talk shit about them. What do he say about you again? I remember a clip.

What was it? I forget, but yeah, he was definitely hating on you for a while there. He said something about me, but I don't know. it was like his most viral moment in like the past year I'm pretty sure I mean he is somebody who can pretty much go viral whatever he wants I feel like yeah

yeah at this point you just like man fuck all these gods you don't care I don't care like I don't need to be friends of them like I have a yeah like I hang out with who I hang out with them I'm fine with that like I don't need to be okay he called you the W-O-A-T

the worst of all time streamer that's a big accolade it's fine because I don't like it's like it's what whatever. I don't care. It's like I'm not like just a streamer too. It's like all the people like in phase whatever like they just stream. It's like, like streaming is like my side thing, you know? It's like I just do it because I really enjoy it. I actually really like streaming. What do you think you make the most money off of? Probably like the agency side of things. So what's that consist of? Like how do you get new girls to work with? Just, uh, DM them? It just happens. I don't know.

meet them It's different Out to about Yeah Go to parties Meet girls Ask my thing I want to start

Only fans Sometimes just friends The other girls Just depends But you never You don't have your girls Do actual Sex stuff

For the most part On Only fans Right No they do whatever Like they're comfortable with Okay Yeah like Because you do only fans

You and McKinley Was fucking on there and shit Were you I don't know I'll check that out What's with Jack's pack Can anymore No

I broke up Can't do born anymore. Shit sucks. So she said that you made out with Island Boys? Was that, was she just lying?

Who? McKinley. No, I kissed him. Wait. Wait. Like, describe kiss.

Quick back. Come on video. It's not that gay. It's like my mindset behind it was like, I seen Bryce Hall kissed like 21 guys on his 21st birthday. Did he? For a YouTube? Yeah.

He did. And he made zero dollars over that YouTube. He definitely got D. monetized. So I'm like, okay, he kissed 21 guys for free. I'll kiss, I guess this too. But did you get anything out of doing it? Yeah, bro, are you kidding me?

I made fucking millions of dollars off that shit. Like, we all did. Like, it was insane. It's all, kiss. It's on video. And I was getting a percentage off them at the time, too, which was like a couple hundred grand a month. Yeah.

And then fucking what I was making off of two was just like stupid. It was just like retarded fucking money at the time. Like, as gay as it was. Like, fuck. That gay money was good. Like, fuck. I'm kidding. Crazy.

he said that fucking game when you're making me think about what it would be like to kiss one of my friends right now and it's just I don't know I don't know if I could do it no matter how much money was it's hard to find I guess a peck is

you know a peck is a peck is a peck right yeah yeah I'm like gay but $20 $20 not $20 I'm kidding I have a shirt that says that no that's a good shirt that's a classic right there but no I'm not getting my brother is but so she she also said that you she felt like you're holding back her personality

is that real bro get out of here dog that's kind of crazy to say after you put her in like you made her famous she has so much to say but like bro whatever and then that one girl was trying to make it seem like you assault to her the day before insane like that's the fuck that's the most fuck part that's what changed everything about the situation that's why not even talking about it we're dealing with that shit behind the scenes now like that's why i'm like fuck that i'm not even talking about it yeah but yeah because that but that little chick's cloud chasing because everyone is in the situation bro everyone is i haven't really seen

too many people say something? I've seen... It's just sad, bro. It's just like, it's so sad. It really is. It's more sad than anything. But I did a lot for all those people,

and it's just like, fuck that. Like, I don't even know, man. It looks so much, bro. What was the final straw for her where she was like,

all right, I'm gonna, because it's like, it seemed like y'all used to fight a lot on stream and we didn't see y'all breaking up. So like, what was the final straw? Like, she caught you cheating or some shit?

No. It wasn't, bro. It's just, it was nothing, bro. stupid ass shit like Yeah

I don't even know I don't even like she used you or no I don't even want to talk about it bro I'm never gonna say anything No I feel it You're suitor? You're saying about suitor or something? Because you probably ever under some kind of contract

With the only offense shit right? I don't know man Hopefully y'all just Fix it again It seemed like you still care and love her and shit You know of course like We were together every day for two years Yeah

It's like I'll probably end up back together and shit I don't know. It's hard to It's gone too far. Hopefully we can be like cool one day But like I don't know I don't think it's going to go back to how it was more so her friend saying shit

I mean she says subtle shit but I ain't really seen I mean I don't know what's happening behind the scenes but like on stream She's not saying that much right Oh she hasn't really done an interview and like did a teller or anything Yeah I mean that's why I'm not really saying anything either It's just like I just want it's our at the end of the day it's our business It's like it's already out there enough it's fucking Blonde abortion more than it needed to

and it's just like it's turned into something it's not it's just like fucked it's just like I don't know the whole situation is just sad bro I don't know whatever you could do everything for somebody and they'll just

switch out create a new narrative for clout as soon as they get the chance yeah yeah I've seen that before but it's different it's just it was supposed to be a more serious

thing you didn't think that she was going to do that it's just yeah i don't know whatever changed topic not i'm kidding but fuck um okay what about this uh the one this this this random guy stream sniped you and smack you in the face yeah we slick talked about it that was a dude that's oh that's what that one was okay kicked off a kick yeah the second time oh that's what that one was okay my bad so you and eddie y'all y'all not cool at all no eddie's all eddie's so cool actually like he's honestly like really really cool like you know he bans me on off a fucking kick but like he's like actually like for who he is and like he's a billionaire

like he actually like responds to his text like that he actually cares like I'm not gonna lie so I'm so focused on party I haven't really even like try to reach out to him about it but at the second time I'm like kind of like I fuck this shit but I'm sure he'd let me back on again he's super cool would it be a thing where you could even stream on kick

since you got this party sister originally on so no um yeah but I was kind of like using kick as like a way to promote party and like but also like Yeah, he kind of didn't really fuck with that. So that's why I'm just, like, kind of really focused on party right now. So that's another reason for the- Yeah.

But what do you think is the goat streaming service besides party? Of course you're going to say that. Party. Twitter kick. Twitch or Twitch. Twitch. Twitch over-Kid. Yeah, I'll actually run Twitch too.

So they promote party. Goat as in like best software or like best community. There's a lot of different ways you can judge it. Twitch or YouTube, honestly, YouTube to where it's at. yeah YouTube's the best from my perspective excluding yourself who would you say are the top streamers right now probably I show speed Tyson at and then like A. Ross

I mean it's all about Are we talking like influence who helped create it? Because you're seeing a lot of the like Mount Rushmore show With like rice gum and everybody on there And still it's just like when you think of like streamers I don't know I just think of those three There's just people who are doing it so big now In a way that we never could have

dreamed of five years ago, I feel like. Is Osho Speed the big as you think? Probably. Yeah, I think he's bigger than all of them. He's like, because of international, bro, he goes crazy. But Kai can definitely do that for sure. Kai's more like, I can go to every country and probably pull the same. Yeah.

Or like, you know, like he can get to that same point, you know? Kai's more entertaining, but I've just seen I shall speed like the fans that he, he pulls when he goes to these different countries is like, whoa. Yeah. No, that's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I have a friendship relationship or not really too much.

much. Nah, I never really spoke to him. Yeah. I fuck with it though, so you just pretty much do your own shit. You ain't really just trying to click up with you. I mean, I've collabs with like a million people, but like, it's really it. Like, after that, it's just like, you know, what's next, you know? Yeah.

I see you and like, oh, Wakel Sires. I do a lot of shit together. Yeah. And I don't eat chopper? Or what? The relationship's not like good now? I mean, like, no, everything's, you know, he's cool. He's super cool.

He's a great guy, yeah. But none of these dudes you consider friends, really, it's just like. No, I mean, yeah, I consider him friends. but I'm like hanging out with them like that. Yeah. But yeah. No, I feel it.

I'll feel it. What about you crashing your yacht? Yeah, I crashed like into a fucking yacht. You crash in your neighbor's yacht, right? Yeah, like fuck. The nicest boat like I could have crashed into. I crashed into it was so bad.

But you have an actual yacht? No, it's just, it's like a wake boat. Oh, yeah. But, I crash into a yacht. Yeah.

But, uh, yeah, it was the first time I, like, tried taking my boat out by myself. And, Yeah, I literally made it four houses down and crashed into his boat.

It was fucked. How much is damage, you know? Oh, it was only 1,200. That's not that bad for a yacht. That's what I'm saying. I was when I found out, I was like, thank God. Like, I was tweaking because I didn't have insurance on the boat either. So I was like, damn, like this guy, I don't know, I don't know how much to damage in the boat could be.

But it wasn't that bad. Like, thank God. So I wasn't going very fast. But, yeah, I've literally crashed everything at this point. It's kind of, I don't know. Yeah, I would think of a yacht repair because those things. are like hundreds of millions of dollars but that's good yeah did you get a new crib i thought you like bought a new crib yeah how much you got a new crib about uh 3.5 in miami or where yeah for

lauderdale yeah but i'm putting like a ton of money into it too like it's brand new but like i'm like adding a bunch like finishes to it and like custom stuff and like redoing the whole backyard like i'm putting like a basketball field soccer field like all that stuff and i'm gonna put like a in the backyard and stuff and it's like on the water too so it has so much property for it like being on the water so I'm just like I could do so much with it so I'm excited about that because yeah I don't know I just been renting the past like four years it's wasting money could have fucking bought I don't even know yeah you could have been how all right yeah oh my god yeah so you feel like you have to keep streaming to basically like keep the only fans management shit working

Is that a big part of when you sign a girl that she's like Come on her streams and shit If anything was easier to like do it before streaming, you know It's like it kind of just takes time away from it if anything and like I don't know Like when I got a ban off kick I was kind of hype I was gonna make more money now But then I got I just love streaming so much

I got another streaming deal and I'm like I just live stream again Hmm That's what so what you got playing in the future like any like big streams that you're cooking up um I don't know I'm single now so so you all saw

I'm about to be outside the rest is all right yeah I feel it sort of you and McKinley gonna get back together bro

I don't know man I don't know if it's everything happens for reason man you know I know I know I wanted to man at first but it's just like at this point

it's like I don't know if you saw her with another dude right now with that hurt or have you seen that he definitely wouldn't take her back like fuck no

oh after that oh But just in general, like, if you saw it with another guy right now, like, would it fuck you up? We've ruined your day. I don't know. I don't know. I just think it. Honestly, it might even make me feel better.

Like, just be like, all right, like, go, you know, uh, you know what can go be a you know what. So, no, I'm kidding. Do you expect people that you're cool with to unfollow her? Because I don't know if I followed her right now, but I might have. Should I expect, hey, you still follow her? Good boy. No, I'm kidding. He unfollowed him and his girlfriend.

for no reason. It's fine. It's fine. I mean, talk about it. I don't care. Not maybe there's a reason. I'm not going to talk her name to her.

No, I'm kidding. That was a joke. I was joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. He's not joking.

I'm joking. McKinley, that may even want you back, man. Nah, I don't know. We need credit for it, too. Really? I'm sorry. You guys,

a couple of hands. No, I'm joking. We're not doing that. We're not doing that shit. We're not doing that shit. I'm not allowed. Like, my friends say, no no.

Oh, so your friends are like anti, you getting back with her? Yeah. Word. But honestly, from like a... Because you have a toxic relationship. That's,

that's the general thing. I wouldn't even say that. Y'all argue a fucking lot. For like, we clip farm, bro, it's like, it's like it promotes all our shit, you know,

it's like, it sucks to be like that, but it's just like, right after stream, it's just like we're good because it's just like, we're not letting a stream get to get to us

the end day. We know it's going to get clipped up, whatever the fuck, but it's just like it's better. But some of that shit has to take a toll though because somebody yeah no for sure some of it has to be real not I know I know and I looking back on it it's just like fuck like

we shouldn't have done all that you know it wasn't it wasn't worth it looking back you know yeah but got y'all at right now and got her where she's at so yeah gotta take the good with the bad but it's like we're at the point too where it's like we don't got to do that shit anymore yeah yeah

so is there anything that you see as like a good path towards you like you know fixing your image or whatever like making people like you more or is that? Yeah, I want to become a good dad. Have a kid. Yeah. That's an option. Yeah. No, I'm kidding. I'm like born in life now. What do I do?

They're going to like fucking pick apart. Like if you start making content like showing you being a dad, they're just going to find something that you do bad. But they won't because I have all the time in the world and all the money in the world will take care of my kids. So it's like, how can I be a bad dad? Yeah, but look at like the ace family. My kid will never stab me in the back, you know? So I'll hang out him. Yeah. But look at the Ace family. He made his content all about just hanging out of the kids and like he still became public. I mean,

but I've been doing this since I was like 10 years old. I feel like I learned all the lessons and I like that like not all of them. You know, it's like I still got so much to learn. I'm so young. But it's just like even just like recently, you know, I'm just looking back, you know, it's like mixing business and personal life is really hard. And there's so many people that can teach you about that because like what we do is very unique. But even just looking at the other people in our industry that do it,

you can kind of learn off off of them. that's real so you got anything planned anything in particular you just keep trekking along any new business ventures keep trekking along man you know

but also keep setting goals and just keep grinding at the end of day I don't know that's real no I feel it man I feel like oh

you know people hate and do our shit but you've been killing it for a long-ass time now so you got this shit figured out but I'm still young you know so I'm still trying to figure out how I can I don't want to get ever too comfortable

that's the one thing like right now I feel like fuck I gotta be doing more but I also just it was just a little crazy ass month too so but I'll be back you do therapy? Nah fuck that who am I going to talk to you like what are they gonna do for me

I'll feel it I know a therapist can fix my problems like it's like they're not gonna only I can fix my problems they could give you a different perspective that you might not find on your own for sure but I talk to a lot of people too I feel like and I feel like I'm good at listening and like putting myself in other people's shoes and like understanding where they're coming from but I feel like they don't put themselves in my shoes

sometimes it's like how do I feel or how do I look at it but I feel like not many people understand like just how many things are going through my mind like how that impacts like decisions I make and like just there's just a lot of like sacrifices and compromises they make like every day just to fucking keep everyone happy so I can be happy but so I don't know everyone I like everyone I'm around I feel like is who I talk to for therapy. They kind of tell me what I like want to hear like I don't got no like yes man like I like even with everything recently like I want to like get things out of people like I want to hear something but like they just tell me how it is and I'm just like damn like I don't

Like, my friends are real with me at the end of day. That's, like, that's what's most important. It's hard to find, like, real friends. That's real. Yeah, no, that's all it. I keep your real friends around, for sure. The show. You guys friends?

You guys have a beef? With each other? Dude, who are you beef with? I heard you beef with, like, your employees. I don't be people, a lot of people, but not. Random. Who are the ones that, like, you guys, like, fight with? I've seen clips.

We don't fight, but. Hasn't, like, some one of your employees that crashed out on you or something? I swear I've seen it. You guys don't act like I'm... It's more like ex-employees. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Definitely. It's been a lot of that.

But I got to have grace with them because a lot of them either are handicapped or they're morbidly obese. So... Yeah. You don't have that problem. Miami, everybody's in shape. Yeah. Imagine how scary it is to be for the fat person. You run.

You ever seen a sumer wrestler? I can just bump into you and just send you flying. Yeah. You're a tall guy, though. yeah that's the problem I gotta beef up if I want to do battle with these fat asses I know

all right so what do you want people to follow you on what's your direction to the people out there um at jackdority yeah oh follow me on party.com slash jackdory it's an app too right or you gotta go to

we're about to drop an app really soon so right now it's just a website but the app's coming soon and we're giving away like a Tesla once it drops so it's gonna be lit oh shit There you go. How long are you in LA for?

I think I leave tonight. I like midnight. All right. I feel it. Nice. Jack Doherty, man. Jack Doherty, Rimo.

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