No Jumper - Jayy Wick on Blowing Up as a White Rapper, His Signature Haircut, Pooh Sheisty Co-Sign & More

Episode Date: February 11, 2026

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No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. And today I'm in here with a white boy who been taking the internet by storm. I know you've seen them on your algorithm. Jay Wick is in the building. Yes, sir. I appreciate you for having me. No, I'm excited, man.

I've been seeing the growth. I was going through YouTube channels and everything, watching like the oldest stuff. And it feels like you really got it together over the past like year or so. The music has gotten so much better. It's kind of crazy. So yeah, I appreciate it.

It's always been, you know, a dream and a high being kind of, but like, as far as taking it's serious, it's really like the past, really past six. months has been crazy. Really? Yeah. That's one thing I kind of noticed is that you were talking about, I don't give a I'll work a regular job, like in your older music.

I don't give a fuck about a label, et cetera, like kind of, you've kind of made it clear that you're like more concerned with like being yourself and standing on who you are rather than just like mindlessly chasing success. Yeah, yeah. And he like, shout out, shout out the empire. Even the label knows that. Like they'd be on my ass. Like, you know, we f*** a week because like we know the music and shit, like the talent

that week has. But like one thing by him is my fucking going to do. like damn there what the fuck he's him right apologetically so yeah yeah no i mean like the game these days seems like it really is about authenticity like people just don't chase hits like the way they did 10 20 years ago you know they gimmick she's dried up yeah yeah that shit definitely so okay tell us a little bit about uh where you're from and your upbringing and everything uh so i was born in uh born in port st lucy florida okay i was a product of the adoption system oh really went through all that shit um my doctor foster parents moved me to georgian and i was like five

six, seven, somewhere around there. And grew up in South Georgia, every since the middle of fucking nowhere, fucking stoplights, hospitals, school, that's about it. So would you say you had overall, like, a good experience with the foster system? Because I've had so many people tell, like, horror stories about it on the podcast over the years, but...

I mean, to be real with you, I was, in that aspect, I was blessed, bro, because, like, I was put in at three days, and I was signed and adopted about three years old. So, like, it was really the first, like, very beginning of my life. I don't really remember none of that shit. And, like, by the time,

I start remembering stuff, I was already like in foster care with the people that ended up adopting me. Right. So like you still have a real good relationship with your foster parents and everything? Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. So like they, they, my foster parents split up whenever I was 11, but my, uh, my adopted dad's like shit, that's my pops. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. So you moved from Florida to Georgia at what age? Probably like six, seven, somewhere around there. Okay. And so you basically grew up like not near any kind of big cities or anything? Like that was kind of, yeah, yeah. Like, where we live, like, you got, you got, you got, if you know about, you got

you got making right upon it. Other than that, everything else, country is a motherfucker. Right, for sure. So, like, what was your childhood like? Like, what kind of stuff were you doing or getting into as a young boy? I mean, shit. Just like anybody from a small time, bro, we just kind of did anything to fucking pass the time, you know, like stupid shit, fun shit, bad, shit, really, whatever the

there was, you know, there wasn't, there's not a whole lot of, like, extracurricular shit for, like, the youth to really do what we. from so like it's you either don't what you're supposed to do you're getting in trouble for sure were you in the minority as a white kid yeah yeah I mean like minority angle in the town as a whole no because like you know there's a bunch of rednecks and shit like at the exact same point like where I grew up and like like my bus stop and like my neighborhood and she like hell yeah yeah I was one of the only white boys if not the only white boy for sure did that uh toughen you up a little bit did you uh kind and go through the ringer in terms of people giving you a hard time.

It definitely made, you know, it was, you know, motherfucker ain't no hoe. You know, but like, shit, that's just growing up, you know, anywhere. Like, I was never looked at as the white boy neither. Like, of course, in the very beginning, that's how I was. But as, like, motherfuckers figured out who I was and, like, oh, this is real authentic. And, like, bro, really just growing up,

how we growing up, and, like, motherfuckner, I was accepted pretty well. But were you, was it pretty obvious to you from our early age? or do you have like a specific memory or when you realize like, oh, those rednecks, that's like the average white guy in this town and I'm not really on that type of time. I used to have white people look at me

and be like, the white kids are shit of school and be like, but like, you know what color you are, right? You know you're white, right? You need the ex. Like, man, like that's the ignorance was always there. Yeah. Like, I always kind of caught the drift of like, yeah, I'm not really like this group of people,

but I'm really not like good. I'm just kind of always did my life. I've been myself my whole life. For sure. I feel like it's hard for people to even understand how much shit I took for like listening to Jay-Z when I was in 1996 or whatever. Like it was just so not normal because in my school, it was like you were like a rocker or you were a rap fan.

And it was basically like you couldn't really overlap. Like it was just totally looked down upon it. It was a weird time when you think about nowadays it seems like that's the norm. Yeah. No, yeah, yeah. It is kind of cool. You know, I like how music is not like, we have. y'all have a very wide music taste.

Right. Even my whole thing group. If you're a rapper and you talk about how you like rock music or whatever in an interview, people are going to think that's cool. Yeah, yeah, no for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. That's, I mean, with where we grew up and, you know, the people that I grew up around and the certain friends I did, but I was introduced to everything, but rap music, country music,

rock music, my pops listens to Southern Gospel. So I just all type of, I've been fascinated with music itself my whole life. Really? Okay. So what was, like, the rap music that first? kind of captured you or made you like a super fan as a young boy. I mean, I tell people I was, I feel like I was born in the perfect period. I was born in 2000.

So like I caught the ass in of the really like dope shit that like, you know, you need to know. And then like I caught like the, I tell people all like my growing up was like the the Eminem, the Lil Wayne, the Jay Cole, the Drake whenever he really started like that era, the shit, man, all that really, really good. Like what we know is now is like the right now greats. It was like Philly, really what we watched them build. And then I took people all the time I'm still in a good enough age gap where I can relate to all the new young shit that still comes out.

So it's like, man, I feel like I was born in like the perfect spot whenever comes to music. For sure. And did you know anybody was rapping when you were young or do you have to kind of figure it all out for yourself? Like locally? Yeah. I mean, yeah, it was like, I mean, yeah, it was a big local thing.

It was like, it's an assload of talent where I'm from. It's a whole bunch of small-time rappers and folks got real talent down there. So yeah, I was just one of the same people trying to damn near be like the people I saw, you know, in the town or at the bus stop or wherever the fuck it was at just rap and just whenever i'd i'd watch my motherfuckers freestyle and then go back to the damn house and watch battle rap videos and try to do my own little bit of research when if i'd ask you when you were 16 who your favorite rapper was who would you have said little wang yeah that's probably about that man he

he had the whole especially what i'm from man he had them to everybody f***ed up whatever about that hell from like 14 15 to like damn 18 yeah man he had hair yeah yeah yeah yeah Nah, facts. That's all that was going on for real. But, okay, like, what kind of stuff are you into, like, during high school and shit? Were you getting into trouble? You were running around the streets or, like, what kind of kid were you? I mean, it was doing a lot of shit, brother.

I ain't gonna say, like, I was just, like, all the way in the streets. But, like, you know, that was going on too. But, like, man, I took my ass to school. I was just a regular shit, but I was smoking weed or played a couple of different sports. Just here, just trying shit. But I was really just a regular kid, bro. It was just, I was just a white boy that grew up and just a cool-ha white boy that everybody knew. And shit, everybody, like, always knew, like,

no matter what the fuck I did, wherever we was at, everybody's like, man, like, that my fucking be rapping his ass. I'd be in the back of class, making beats. Really? So even when you were young, that was something you were fucking with a lot. Yeah, yeah, do your research. Right home, anybody to tell you,

like, yeah, he been doing this rapping shit, he's been doing that. Was there anything about Eminem that kind of affected you? Because I feel like that probably was, like, the first white rapper for almost everybody from our generation, like, that really stood out. Like, was there anything about that that made you, like, Oh, okay, like, it is possible. I mean, really just, especially with him, like,

and I think the movie, they did a great job, like, really laying it out in the movie. Yeah. But, like, showing just, like, where bro came from? I'm like, you know, how shitty the sister could, like, shit, shit wasn't ever, you know, roses and fucking butterflies. So, like, I was to see that other people that look like yourself, you know, come from a shitty situation and do something that you've dreamed about doing.

It's like, okay, yeah, this is really possible. So you, uh, you graduate at high school? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And then what did you do afterwards? So I tried to go to college. My folks was on some shit. Like, you don't want to work no bullshit job.

You're not doing what you want to do with music. What you always said, you're going to do with music. Like, you need to go to school. And so I went to school, had just enough GPA with the fucking state and everything would pay for it. And I did like two and a half semesters in college. Figured out that shit wasn't for me. Dropped out and just kind of just stayed in the hood. And, like, you know, got me in job and just started working a couple years when I had a little boy.

How much, was that planned or how did the... No, I mean, shit, none of it was. Like, on all the baby, none of it was. Hell, no. At my head, whenever I got to college, I was like, well, shit, I'd have made it to college. I thought I would never get here. I'm fin to graduate.

Yeah. Ah, that shit went out of the window. But in terms of becoming a dad, did that, like, kind of change things a lot? Oh, for sure. Yeah, that's like a... I was cool with, like, getting by before I had my little boy. Right.

You know, as long as shit, the bills paid. I got some weed to smoke. All the little basics. this is covered. I ain't really tripping, but like, once that damn, the kid will put a real fire

up under your ass. Like, yeah, kind of, and that's what really made me get back on this music shit. It was like, I'd be at work,

busting my ass, making six, $700 a week, and I'd be talking to myself in my head, like, damn, man, like,

you really got the talent to be a rapper. Like, you're gonna have to tell your little boy, like, for the rest of your life. I got to go to work because I didn't chase my dreams.

Yeah. Damn. okay. So what did you take in more serious look like? because, I mean, it's one thing to be a good rapper, but realistically, it's tough to make it happen if you don't really have a budget

or any kind of money to put behind yourself. Well, I feel like a big part of it is finding people that believe in you. Because, like, I didn't have no budget. Like, the porchop sandwich that blew up, that did all that shit, like, I paid, this is my role manager here also, just on my camera work.

I paid, bro, like, $200, I think, to pull up on me and come shoot the video. And, like, we didn't, we had zero budget. Like, we didn't do, we used everything, we had around us and we put together a five videos it's about quality man you put together a quality song quality video and got you know especially you got your little little small circle of real support where you're from to help kind of boost you up out though you got a good chance yeah no definitely like has that kind of always been your approach is like let's do more quantity uh quality

over quantity instead of just flooding this shit let's like really find like songs that really make sense and push those i mean here here recently yeah there's definitely been the game plan it's It was a lot whenever I was younger, but I was just kind of like, I want to do music. It's like, you know, okay, I got time to do music this weekend. I can afford to go to the studio. I did a song, okay, whatever the fuck I got from the studio this weekend, I'm going to put it on YouTube. I'm dropping however. So I had to kind of get over that part.

But like once I realized, like you said, it's a couple quality songs and stopped trying to just force feed some shit. Because I was, my manager, Kima, told me three, four years ago whenever we first met, she was like, what's the point of you having 150, 100 songs? You don't nobody know one fucking hit single. You don't have one hit single. You don't have one song. Everybody's like, oh, yeah, that's that guy.

One really good songs is way more useful than like a couple hundred whatever songs. I'm sitting here talking to you because of one song. Exactly, yeah. You feel like all the, you don't know shit about any other music that I've done. I'm sitting here talking about you just the one song. Because I go back and I listen to like the older stuff and everything. But it's like when I listen to the older stuff, I'm like, okay, I see this as like the building

block that shows me kind of how he got to where he's at now where he's made songs that really resonate with people. But it's weird too because it's like we grow up looking at rappers like Lil Wayne or Gucci or Jeezy or whoever, who you're used to seeing them put out mixtape after mixtape and just really like flooding the streets, like once, which is kind of true. Like once you're really getting your zone, once you're that good, you can do that. But like if you're really just trying to get people to pay attention to you for the first time, it's kind of like, let's make like the perfect song and just push the fuck out of that.

And like back then too, like that was the mixtape era. That's what they had to do. Like we have the opportunity of viral moments. So like viral moments one of the huge thing back then. So like now it ain't shit to put together one good clip with a quality song. Do three million views and now a whole bunch of my fucks that didn't know you know you. So I mean we definitely have a leverage there. No, that is a really good point.

That was such a different era because in 2007 it was like we were so new to the idea that like a rapper like a little Wayne could just drop mixtape. So he blew up so much bigger by just putting out mixtape after mixtape. But this era right now where the world is so flooded with content and it's so hard to get people to pay attention to anything that having a TikTok or an Instagram real that goes crazy is like that's the thing that you really need to be aspiring to, you know? Yeah. We're definitely in that six to ten second era. We're like everybody's attention span. You got this long to grab me.

Then once you grab them, you got this long to keep them. That's crazy, bro. Yeah. Think about it constantly. Yeah. but okay so did you feel like in those early days or whatever that your fan base like was people listening to you on like a local level were you getting support from the local community um i mean i feel like there was ups and downs like like like i said everybody always knew that i

rapped but then like as far as like support you know support takes takes a little bit of of nudge and a little bit of damn love and you know it takes a little while to build real support so uh i think it came to the point of like really like once once I had like 18, 19, 20 and was like still going to the studio still putting shit out and she introduced me to Bussey one time. I got to sit down and meet up with Bussey and folks

saying that okay he's really kind of taking it serious and the actual like building blocks for support from my hometown started coming together. Now it's you, motherfuck can't get online and say something about the white boy from bite home without like man everybody from by home like they own that.

That's gonna be a good feeling. No for sure for sure. Because, like, I put so much in my reputation as just me being myself. Like, what you see is what you get with me. And so, like, to know that, like, people genuinely support that, man, that's the best feeling in the world. Definitely. When's the first time you actually went viral, what did you say? I did the, uh, little baby dropped, uh, the emotionally scarred.

What album was that on? I was, uh, holograph. Okay, though, yeah, he dropped, emotionally scarred. I redid the, uh, that, that beat probably like two, weeks after he dropped the album. And I did like 800,000 views on Facebook. Oh, shit. Yeah, that's like really country shit.

We Facebook's like huge thing back. So that's that shit. I was really only ever having traction on Facebook. And then I did, like I said, that shit blew up. And it allowed me to meet my manager. And then she took me to Bucci off all that. You know, shit played out how it did. But that was like many years ago, right?

20, probably like 19. Right. For sure. Damn, so you probably had like some pretty long stretches where you weren't really having anything pop off where you were starting to doubt yourself and shit. Yeah. Working a real job. Like hating my head.

Yeah, for real. That is a crazy thing now is that like people think like, oh, you go viral and then that's just it. But reality is, it's like you could go viral 10 times and then maybe something hits finally that like gets you over that hump of it's not just this little viral moment and it's like people are actually really listening to the music. As much as like I said, we do live in the viral moment as you know, as important as that is a viral moment's not going to get like it's so easy to go viral and I like, that's not

just what's going to put you over the top. Yeah. That might like shine the spotlight, but you got to really be able to come back to back if you really want to like lock that attention in. Yeah. And actually like once you've kind of gone viral and people are sort of familiar with you, then you all of a sudden have like a new challenge, which is how do I like, really get people to fuck with my music and take it seriously, not just be like a gimmick or whatever.

For real. Yeah. And I feel like it was even a little harder just being Caucasian because it's like it was a whole lot to prove it's in like, I'm hard. You know I'm hard, but I'm also not a gimmick. Like, you know, this is genuinely like who the fuck I am. Definitely. Did you feel like how much do you think that the hair started to impact like the virality of it? because I feel like that's definitely something that stands out to people,

that, like, it's hard to forget. It's really became a look, and, like, it's a look on a good and bad thing. You know, folks from where I'm home, that's kind of how I got my name, because, like, I had a long-ass hair as the white boy. I walked around with a big-ass gun. So it became like a genre. And then, like, I had the fucking German Shepherd, but I had to, it was times that, like, I'd be going through with my baby mama.

I'd be in the hood, nowhere to go with my dog. Like, big ass just out there. They'd be like, this motherfucker. It's really John Wick out of my fucking. And so that shit kind of stuck. And that shit, you know, I get the, I get the Jesus comments and shit. Okay, I mean, that shit's act, man. That's, they give me hell with that one.

But, you know, it's a. Was there anybody who influenced the hairstyle? Or you just, like, kind of slowly gravitate towards that? No, I just started growing my shit out, bro. I got to the point where I was just like, I didn't really know what to do it. I always had a hat on. and I just found like one it just got to a point where I never cut it

Yeah And shit I mean if you're young and your hair is strong enough That you can have long hair For sure I feel like you should do it Because by the time you get to your 30s and 40s It starts seeming a lot less realistic Yeah no I'm man

I'm fucking 25 And like already like They'd be in my comments up It's about time to go to Turkey You got that rap money I went I got the plug for you if you need it Yeah yeah it's crazy cheap For real?

Yeah, I didn't have to pay for it, but the guy sitting next to me in the van when we're being transported to the thing is like two grand. I'm like, two grand. I'm like, and for like really fitting his whole shit up, I'm like, that's an amazing deal because out here it would be like 10K plus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we need to go to Turkey. Not sure, yeah, I got the plug. But, okay, so, yeah, I don't know.

Like, I feel like you kind of have had a moment recently. Was it the all-flat song or there was that other song? kind of popped off right before that too, right? The pork chop sandwich. Yeah, yeah. Went first. Okay. And did that just feel like that?

I don't know. Like, that just was like a whole different level. Like, damn, people fuck with this song and it's different than a lot of the songs that they might have been feeling before that. And then that's a big part of what it was, especially for me, bro. It was like, it was, you went listening to some of the oldest shit. So you know it's totally fucking different compared to what I was doing. I'm listening to the oldest stuff and I'm like, wow.

He figured out his flow in the newer stuff, way better. than the stuff that even from like a year ago, like you just put the pieces of the puzzle together. I was pretty impressed. And like I tell, and a lot of these interviews, where I tell people like, I used to get,

I don't say criticized, but a lot of my fellows gave me hell because there was like, bro, like, in a way you make sad music. Like, because like,

music really started as like an emotional release for me and like how to get shit out of my head and shit like that. And so I just kind of always made more like, thought out emotional music. And so one of my buddies came to me one day he was like, you need to kind of relax with it.

I have a little bit of fun. I was like, I never really looked at it from like the having fun aspect. You know, I'm just kind of always, this is how I got my thoughts out. And once I looked at it from like a real having fun aspect, it was like, I just unlocked a whole another fucking level. For sure. But the pork chop sandwich, though, that's like a normal thing that y'all eat out there because I never have one of those.

Oh, for real, bro. Sounds amazing. Where you got to come? You be in Atlanta often? Occasionally. It's been a little bit. You come to Georgia, bro. You got to come down.

I take a good, like, real, like, fried pork chop sandwich sandwich. Oh, it's fried. Fried pork chop sounds. Oh shit. Take your pork chop, fried. Where do you get it at? Shit, like, my people, like, at the house. But there's a couple of restaurants and shit down.

Like, it's a real thing down there. But like, that shit, like, motherfuckings are making that for supper at the crib. Definitely. Yeah. So you spent a lot of time in Atlanta now at this point? Yeah, they got me up there right now. I'm running on.

I ain't gonna say they. I kind of took myself up there, but it was more of like, everybody kind of had the idea, like, you're running with the country boys shit. And then like, I think they kind of like, they heard the country, country boy shit and they thought they was gonna be able to like throw a cowboy hat on me and kind of like wrong with country boy and then they started meeting me and they was like okay like

this ain't really that right this is just like you like a country boy because like you're from georgian and shit and they was kind of like you know you might want to stay down there where you're at and work the country somebody once they met me and like my whole teams in Atlanta I was like you know it kind of makes sense for me to be in a little because this is two and a half hour drive for me to get to Atlanta and working with them I'd be in Atlanta three four times a week yeah so well you think that Like certain people saw the opportunity of like, oh shit, we could like kind of hit the country market as well as the hip hop market. Is that you? It's definitely a beach.

I told whatever I said, I was talking about my deal and everything. I was telling him, like, I like money, bro. Like, all money ain't good money, you know. But like I'm definitely believing, like, I like money, but I'm a hustler. So, like, if I can do something a little bit different, it's like not changing who I am, but just stepping outside of my comfort zone a little bit to make a little bit of extra money, I'm all for that. How big X to plug and shibuz in there and be like, Swat, jump, man. Like, it's a real bag right now. But you just,

I don't want that to become my identity neither. Like, I'm me. Like, this shit. That's the tricky part is, like, at a certain point, do you put yourself in too many country situations and it makes it harder for people to, like, think of you as, like, a regular rapper? I feel like Big X to Plug is a good example, though. He just did, like, a whole country album. And I don't think his, like, rap fans give a shit. He does it perfect. You know, maybe they like it, maybe they don't,

but it's not, like, affecting them in a negative way where they can't listen to his straight rap shit. No, for sure. For sure, yeah, I think he's got a real good balance on, like, who he is. And, like, that's really all that comes down to is, like, knowing, like, shit, this is who the fuck I am.

I just, like, like, like, whenever you come from that, people hear country, and, like, I feel like a lot of people think horses, cowboy boots. Like, you know, it's, like, we round that shit, but, like, I'm just, motherfuckingcherious. Like, how I was raised,

how I grew up, the mannerisms that I have, the way that I speak, shit like that. It's also crazy just because country, like, musically is so close to hip hop sometimes now, where, like, the beats sound weirdly similar. The drums are super similar. It's just kind of like the gulf between the two

is not that crazy anymore. No, not at all. Not at all. They definitely made it very easy to mash the genres together down there. So, like, but it's, I think it works well, like, especially, like, there's a couple of songs that, you know, it's like, you could have kept,

but like, a lot of, like, the big hits where they do like the big country artists and they throw a big stream, I think a lot of those hits like, they did their fucking thing. Definitely. Is that something you like listen to a lot as a kid? Was that like something you were just kind of constantly hearing? Kind of, like I said, bro, I grew up in South Georgia.

I grew up around a ass lot of country music too. Like, you know, my few, I didn't have a bunch of family, my few direct family that I have and a couple of my friends, like, except for like where I grew up, I did hang out with a couple of white folks too. So like, you know, they like, they, they would be around their parents and their grandparents you know they're listening to old Hank williams like oh the old country and shit so i've been whatever i tell you i've literally been in the whole mixing pot of all that shit whenever it comes to music i've literally been around at all

yeah that's kind of a crazy thing too because i'm from the east coast but like my mom like kind of just started listening to country at a certain point and her explanation why i was basically like they don't make like she grew up listening to you know classic rock and shit but she's like they They don't make music that really just talks about relationships and like normal shit like that anymore. Like country kind of like hits a chord that she just felt like she wasn't really getting from the type of music that she grew up listening to. So she sort of fell into it. For sure. And it does to an extent.

You know, in a way, that's one of the reasons I don't really with country music like as I'm maybe my favorite genre. It's because like I feel like a lot of country music is the same shit. Yeah. Like, you know, my girl left me. But then again, you know, motherfuckies say the same shit about rap music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, it's all down to down how you look at it. Because when I was, like, explaining to my girl why I don't really, like,

but listen to the country that much. And I'm realizing, as I'm saying shit, that it's just purely, like, what you affiliate or associate yourself with culturally because it's like, as soon as I hear a dude start rap, uh, singing in a country song about drinking beer, it just don't really register with me because to me, I never really thought drinking beer was all that cool. And then I'm like, as I'm saying that, I'm thinking, like, okay, but there's a million songs that you love about smoking weed and drinking

and lean. And it's like, okay, well, like, culturally, I just kind of like affiliate myself more with that kind of stuff and think that kind of shit's cool. And same thing, like, if you're singing about, you know, driving around in a pickup truck, I don't really got anything against a pickup truck, but it just doesn't really, like, strike that chord with me. Relatable. Yeah, that's a big thing with music. And, like, that's why a lot of people feel like they have a connection to artists. Because, like, you know, music, music makes shit feel relatable.

Definitely. You can never meet somebody in hear a song and be like, damn, I feel like I know this. Mm-hmm. Facts. Okay, so where'd the name actually come from? Jay, your government name? Yeah, I mean, so my name is Justin. So I just took the Jay. And the John Wick thing?

Is that kind of where it came from? Yeah, they gave me the Wick thing. So, yeah, yeah, I didn't, I tell people about it. I did not name myself. That's real story. So that's normal shit where you're from, that you can just walk around with a gun on your hip and it's no big deal? We live in Georgia.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, like, yeah, we got open carry. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We love guns. Do you think open carry is good for society? I mean, yeah. Like, I feel like I'm a big believing

guns don't kill people, like, you know, that kind of thing. Like, man, you give a stupid motherfucker a gun and he goes to shore his ass, it's not like, it's a stupid motherfucker's fault. I feel like, you know, as society as a whole, like, gun guns is very big for like, you know, where we live and shit like that, like, especially like in the South, man, everybody in their, everybody, grandma got a gun down that bit.

Yeah. It's just literally like a way of life. my fucks is used to that so yeah I'm yeah yeah yeah like when I'm down in Texas or whatever it's definitely a feel of people are not gonna fuck around as readily because of the reality of the fact that like probably a large percentage of the people here are strapped but then I was let down when I went to Nashville and we were going to a lot of different places and there was like no firearms allowed signs in front of everywhere I'm like oh okay it's not as a chill as you'd think that's like that's like insurance pervue yeah that's shit that bitch is everywhere in

Atlanta too he just believe is some shit in that beat yeah yeah yeah any mile you go in at Atlanta you're gonna see a sign to say no fire arms and I yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean we've heard plenty of stories that would say otherwise unless you're gonna metal detect everybody on the way in which is such a huge pain and that's but I have heard them about doing that in Atlanta and certain malls and stuff that you gotta go to metal detectors and shit we really don't have no issues walking through nowhere for the for the most part you know But shit, if it's one of them shit, and the week, it's not going in. We're going to turn around and go back in the car.

We don't go to South Lake. So you still just have one kid? Yeah, I got a little boy. Okay. And how old now? Two and a half. Two and a half. That'll be three in September.

Okay. So is that like extra gratifying, just that you're starting to see success musically as a result, like just the fact that now you can do things for your kid that you haven't been able to previously? Or just knowing that, like, at some point they're going to look at your life and be, damn, like my dad actually really. did something with the music. I mean, for sure, you know, that's always the goal is just like,

I feel like any parent relates to, like, how the fuck am I going to take care of these kids? What the fuck am I going to do to really, like, provide? And my whole thing is like, brother, my pops work 9 to 5. I watched my dad make, like, $19,000 a year at one point and, like, stood on every fucking bit of business that ever had to be stood on.

Right. So, like, for me to know, especially now with, like, the position that I'm in, man, it's like, you know, I can't be nothing but thankful and give all praise to God for me being in a position where like I can handle all the business and not really like without really having to lift a finger at this point.

So yeah, it's definitely probably the most, really and truly probably the most gratifying thing I've ever done, bro, to really like know that like I'm my biggest critic, you feel me? So to really be able to pat myself on the back and be like, you did it, boy, it is a nice feeling. But did you grow up thinking that a normal 9 to 5 was like a good outcome? Did you look at that as something that you were kind of dreading?

Like, that would be your backup plan? I mean, I always knew, I mean, it's definitely a backup plan. Like, I always knew that, like, bills had to be. The landlord wanted their motherfuck of money. And, like, oh, you know, I grew up with, like, my dad was real, like, nine to five, like, stick to the book type of guy. And then, like, I grew around dope boys and gangsters. So, like, you know, as having, like, the whole mix,

what I always knew was, like, you got to get some money. But, like, my pops didn't steal in me. I don't work the ass load of job. I did a bunch of shit. So my pop's really instilled them. Like, ain't nothing wrong we're going to work. Like, if you broke and you ain't got no hustle or you're not in a position, like,

you could really be hustling. Yeah, you need to go get a damn job. That shit. But in the same time, like, I'd be at jobs writing music. I got fired from a job just because I was in my notes writing music so much. So it was like, you know, this job shit's cool. Like, I always had that real passion

to be like, man, this is not where I'm supposed to be. For sure. Did you ever, like, being that you kind of grew up around people who were really hustling, like, was there ever times that you look back on where you were, like, on the verge of maybe, like, getting fully in the streets, like, on some serious, serious level? I mean, like, motherfuck did what the fuck they've had to do. Like, you know, the bills have always been paid regardless of what job I were working like. So, like, I ain't ever really, but like I said, bro, I just, I've always,

I'm gonna get me some money. I know that I have responsibilities. A younger me was to a point where he didn't give a fuck about responsibility. So like, you know, I was real like, there was a point where I was 18, fresh out of high school shit, sitting on the couch and realized, like, had folks doing for me

and, like, didn't really care. And so, like, not, like, I know, like, I got responsibility. I got shit that I got to do. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get up off my ass. Do you always smoked weeds since you were super young? Like, do you feel like, like when you think about it,

you were saying to make it six seven hundred dollars a week i'm like damn that must have been at a certain point like you got to really conserve if you want to smoke weed on that kind of budget i'm sure it's really yeah it's definitely budgeting like shit a lot of a lot of shit's just like it came down to points where it was like hey like i need you to front me to nick as we you know there's been plenty of those situations but like yeah i've smoked weed like probably i'm 25 probably like the past 12 13 years of my life i probably started like dabbling and smoke winter if i was like 12 13 years old just like whenever like Like, my adoptive, my adoptive, I was 11.

And I stayed with my pop. So, like, by the time I'm like 11, turning into 12, he kind of, like, started letting go with the leash a little bit. And, you know, I started walking to the project. Like, the apartments that I live was right here. There was an elementary school right here. And then the project was right down here at the bottom of the hill. So I ain't do nothing but walk down past school.

And I have all my folks and all my friend and live right down the project. So as I get older, he started kind of letting me go. And then it got to, okay, would you come back when the street lights come on? And then, okay, come back, be back at 10 o'clock. So I was 13 years old out there, nine, waiting on the damn sun to go down in the middle of sometimes smoke wheat. Yeah. Yeah, that's a hell.

Yeah, man, it's a... People ask me on time, why do you smoke? And, like, I feel like there's a ass a lot of different answers. Like, you know, it's... You smoke weed? Like, regularly anymore? Every day, all day, for 15 years and I stopped like a month and a half ago or some shit. Yeah, I still fuck with the wax pen a little bit.

But I just stopped, like, because I smoked blunts and fucking... splifts and shit for so long. Now I got this little guy on me, just in case. But I don't know. I just felt like I really wanted to start taking my health as serious as possible. Like I still smoke a little bit, but I just kind of had to fall back. I don't know. Yeah, facts. I don't know.

You're young. Keep going. Keep going now. And everybody tells me that. They're like, but you're young as I am to the point where like it's just part of the routine. Like, you know, it's just like, I wake up, I brush my teeth, I shower, I roll the blunt. Yeah. Just like you eat breakfast. And I feel like a lot of people

can know to smoke weed like shit, it'd be days, you'd be like, man, I need to smoke. Oh, yeah. I mean, I will say though, that there are, like, I just have a lot memories of my life of, like, waking up and smoking a blunt and then having to go do something that was like kind of complicated or high pressure.

And, like, when I look back on it, I'm like, why the fuck were you, like... Why did you have for you to do that shit, bro? Like, I'm doing these crazy interviews with these big names and shit. I'm like, why did you face a blunt before you did that like you didn't have to do that that was like you made that a lot harder than it had to be but i feel like with the lifestyle of an artist going in the studio rap and making music and shit that shit is

kind of like really lends itself to to that you know it does it does and like my uh my mind's always always been really fast-paced so like whether whether it's thoughts or whether it's like what do i got to do today or whether it's like a real like mental health level it's always been super fast-paced for me so like the weed kind of slow that shit down definitely you with other drugs Or not really not really I had a whenever I was young I was on Adirah Prescription And then I came off of it

I was like 16 And then you know whenever I was like 18, 21 I kind of back and forth I used it for more like when it could benefit me because like especially As I really tried to like get into I did a lot of like night shift jobs And like I was working

I'd be working like four to five hours At a day shift job Cets like two three hours of sleep go do a night shift job and they didn't sleep eight hours. Really? And, yeah, so, like, that was, I took, I'd take Adderallel that before I went over, but not, I ain't really. What kind of night shift jobs?

Oh, I did, I did electrical work. Oh, like, yeah, like, so I come in here with all these ties and, like, they had the big, or the light trays, this shit would turn out, change out all the lights. Oh, that's cool. Motion sensitive bullshit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. What about drinking?

You're a daily drinker, or you a... Really, like, I'll drink for, like, social and, like, I walk around with this big ass bottle of tequila, but I'll drink. two like drinks out of it the whole thing day. I'm not really big on like drunkenness and shit like that. But like I mean, I'll drink,

you know, for the vibe. Yeah. No, that's why I would say is that like, I feel like the challenge with alcohol is that a small amount is really great as like a social lubricant. But,

you know, if you get drunk as shit, like especially in the music industry when you get me meeting people that are important that you want to make a good impression on, etc. Like I have memories of just geeking off Molly meeting like,

super important, like, music industry people. And when I look back on it, I'm like, damn, they were probably looking at me like such a tweaker. Damn, I was out there. Yeah. No, no, no, for sure. Yeah, I just, with alcohol, man, it's like a, you've got to know where you are with alcohol and, like,

your limits and shit, because you definitely get past that point. I don't like, I don't like people to see because I look like a real jackass. I'm trying to get drunk, man. I'm slapping, I'm falling asleep and shit like that. No, I feel that for sure. Okay, so you got caught stealing from the store when you were. were real young. Hell yeah.

Was that the first time you got in trouble? Not in trouble. The first time the cops came? Yeah, yeah, type of shit. Just some young petty shit, bro. And then one of my home boys and fucking around and took some shit, the mother's trying to take the blade for some shit.

Was that like a reality check or like your parents get pissed off at you for it? I mean, they definitely's pissed off. It's just a petty shit, bro. I ain't, we can fuck. I was backdoor stupid bullshit. Whatever I tell you, there's literally nothing to do where we're from like absolutely no we're as bad as for no reason but we should do shit just see what

we can get away with yeah yeah no you definitely reach that point like because you're a young kid and you think that you're just supposed to follow all the rules and then somehow it like comes into your mind at a certain point like for me i think i was probably like 11 or 12 where it was like oh you can get away with shit like i could go to the store and steal shit and get away with it and nothing's going to happen and then i got the reality check of like oh no something will Yeah, something will happen eventually. What does your adopted dad think about you kind of getting all this notoriety and stuff and people pay attention to you now?

Do you think he gets it? Yeah, yeah, for sure. He's always, like I said, he's real, like Southern Gospel, real Christian, real, real big into the church. But, like, at the same time, like, shout out my pops. He's always known who his son was. And, like, he's never really, like, he's never knocked me for who I was. He never really rode me too hard for it. And I just kind of got to a point where he was like, you know,

my son's a white boy to be rapping. And now that this shit's pop, man. He'll call me all the time, like, some lady just stopped me in Walmart, told me, you know, oh, you're, you're Jay Wick's dad. Really? So yeah, it feels good, bro. It was definitely good.

I pulled up on them, I gave me some money, you know. Oh, nice. See, I'm fin to go buy him a car whenever we get back to Georgia. So just doing, being able to shit like that, feels nice. That's what's up. So, yeah, okay, the pork chop sandwich song went by, viral, like, how did that kind of play out? Because you did, like, a hanging mic for a couple of your different songs and stuff.

Like, did that really kind of help it go to another level? That was really, like, the, hey, we should actually do this moment. Yeah. So it was really my son's birthday. And, like, we was down there in the country and I looked at my baby, my mom. I was like, I kind of wanted to go to the city. Take birth to the city.

We took him to the aquarium, shit out for his birthday. And we had this, I got this nice house hotel room, balcony and everything. And I was like, shit. I could really do a little mic drop while I'm up here because I knew brother lived in the city and I caught him and I was like, but it's like, what's schedule like? Let's do a little mic drop.

I got like three or four songs I want to choose from, let's just see. And he was like, fuck it I pull up on him. He pulled up on me at the hotel and I walked down there to get him and he's just blaring pork chop sandwich. I haven't sent it to nobody. Like he's got it, like two other people have it.

And he just pulls up beating it. And he's smiled, I head cuts down. He's like, bro, we need to do this one, bro. And so we walk back upstairs and I play all the other songs. He's like, no, no, no. We need to do this porch-out sandwich shit. And we shot the mic drop right on the balcony,

and the numbers did good enough on, like, Facebook and where we put it on YouTube, while I was like, okay, you know, like, folks, it's fucking with this. And so we decided to turn around, shoot a music video like two weeks later, and it did, you know, decent with just me putting it on YouTube by itself.

And then I had one clip go viral on Instagram, and it went from like 10,000 to like 50,000, like, whatever I could show. I was like, oh, shit, man. It just constantly was going up every 30 minutes. Definitely. I mean, is it a coincidence that both of the songs that are really taken off are, like, food titles?

Yeah, I mean. All flats being a wing reference. I'm not the food guy, bro. I tend to do this shit all the time, bro. That's why I'm so ready to drop this project. Because there's so much other folks are going to see and be like, oh, shit. But they are, we weird. That country shit real, though, man.

We like to eat, bro. So, like, you know, I'm one of them just like, whenever I say shit if I rap about it brother I rap about my real life like whatever aspect that is like whether it be food or like what I'm doing that day

or whatever so like whenever you hear shit like that just know like man that's one cut your ass white white man that's gonna fucking raping about flats no facts you really like those more though

I feel like I'm always been like a my partner drum guy too yeah yeah yeah hell no I feel like I feel like I feel like I feel like I feel like I'm gonna yeah yeah really I need a mix though like I'm trying to kind of bounce back and forth yeah yeah yeah if it was all just one I would be like a little bit let down yeah variety of textures you know I

flats well what kind of sauce you prefer oh hot lemon pepper oh yeah with like lemon pepper sprinkles see that's another thing too where it's like I kind of crave variety like if you go wing stopping it like three three three three yeah yeah was what's your like top three oh shit I like really really hot for real yeah yeah the hottest that got on them off it kind of depends though yeah yeah maybe one of hundred I ordered uh Thai food recently and it said like one through 10 you could pick your spice level yeah and i think i picked five and this was a serious mistake like it was so much hotter than i ever could have imagined i can't even fathom what 10 would have been like an eight or something they were that's false

advertisement for five yeah i was just like i don't know these these Thai people they got ficked up standards for hot i i didn't really expect that um so okay like do you do a bunch of label meetings and stuff before you landed with empire or what was the thought process on that yeah we did we did a little bit running around. I got invited LVRN, reached out. I kind of, we kind of knew a mutual person.

And I was like, yeah, I haven't come through and especially like an hour long meeting and it turned to like a six hour meeting. And we sat in the studio, played an astrolode, unreleased,

taught business. And after that meeting, I was really like explaining to my team, you know, all the like, who all's messaging me right now on Instagram?

And I was like, man, like we just, we really need to go talk. to everybody. And so we didn't, I say talk to everybody. We, there was a bunch more people we could have went and talked to. Right. We did Miami.

We left Miami. We left, we left Atlanta, went to Miami. I was in Miami for like three days. Left Miami. Went straight to California. I was in California flight two, three days. And we was getting ready to fly home. And we found and missed our flight.

And in the process of us trying to get back to our next flight. My manager was talking to guys and everything. guys who's kind of like like let's figure something out like I don't want I want to go nowhere right and uh we went back chop it up and we definitely figured something not like I don't know 100% but I feel like empire like the appeal is kind of that you have more control more ownership versus like some of the other labels might kind of promise you more but they're also probably going to take a larger share of your income yeah I mean that's a big thing to me like I didn't do nothing make the music bro like that was my whole life it's like i didn't understand the business i

never really known anything about it's like all the meetings and shit i was just kind of there and then uh you got to a point where like i started kind of like peeping out like okay this is how it works and then once i've realized how like gauzi's got a structure over there and how empire is like set up i was like okay well this makes a lot of sense because like in the eyes of somebody who knows that they want to make some money, like this makes a lot of sense. Right. And I,

and I, guys are in an expert, like, he's a hustler. And, like, guys are still hands-on. Like, guys are still love fucking wit in music. Right. So, like, that make it way more interesting. No, 100%.

Um, so when you look at, like, what you're really trying to accomplish musically, like, like, I'm sure you have, like, giant dreams for the music and everything. Does it feel like hip hop is in a weird place

because people, people like to push this narrative out there that rap is in like a relative low spot historically does it feel like that or does it feel like when the labels are looking at you they're kind of excited because they haven't it's not 2017

again where they're just flooded with new artists every day. I mean I'm definitely something new to like what the fuck's going on right now and like I think that's why I get a lot of love it's because like people be like boy like we ain't really seen nothing like this but as far as like

hip hop being in like a weird spot man I feel like as long as this folks making the music and telling their story like the culture is always gonna beat it like that shit's stamped that shit's firm you can't really shake that too much so like it's just about like

the amount of authenticity you have coming through the people that's making the music now that's where like shit get a little shaky like the hip hop hop itself has never been the issue it's just the couple people they come in and go to go to fucking up the narrative yeah that's that's really the issue yeah it's a

wild time too because i feel like so much of it is just the labels not investing as much like it feels like a couple years back the labels were still just dumping money into new artists so like from somebody like me's perspective there was always just kind of new artists the labels were building up and like turning them into stars and shit and it feels like that process just happens way less now But we also just live in such a fragmented like information landscape in the sense that there's just so much shit to pay attention to that it's hard for people to become superstars. Whereas like I look at my childhood. It's like all the rappers that I can remember were big names because they all like you just wouldn't know about a rapper unless they had millions of dollars being pumped into it. Yeah.

Yeah. But that comes back to like us living in this viral age. But like you, you really, the labels is damn near like, you got everything you need, like, motherfucker of you. If you're really talented, you can really put out good music. You got, you got platforms that you can put your shit on. You can build a fan base yourself. Like, at this point, they're looking for you to do all the groundwork.

So, like, by the time you've really made a name for yourself, then they're kind of like, all right, let's see, let's work together. Definitely. So your best songs are like, are they all like 100% you or do you ever get any kind of assistance in the studio? Or do you just punch in or you write before you go in there? No, I just like the process used to be I'd write like because like the way that my studio time was scarce. Exactly. Exactly.

So I had to be able to go in there and do what I had to do. Like it was also like I was working in 9 to 5. So like I couldn't go to studio until Saturday or Sunday depending on how it wasn't, especially after my little boy. So Monday through Friday, I'm at work. I'm either writing while I'm at work. I'm trying to find a beat. I might not find a beat to like Wednesday for that week. And then, like, really, like, you're locking with a producer.

Actually, get a beat done. And then, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, I might be writing every. I might, let's say, like, I might have seven days to do one song. But then I got to a point, like, my writing process got a little bit quicker. And I could do, I could have four or five songs ready about time. I got to studio. And that shit, you know, you get to studio one to take everything. And it's like, okay.

I actually made use of this two hours in the studio I had to pay for out of my pocket. Rather than I just go into the studio and be like, I'm going to punch in. And then I'd do two hours and leave with half a fucking song or one song. Yeah, yeah. Definitely. You got to make your money stretch when you're at that stage in the career. For sure, though. Especially like, like I said, it was real 9 to 5 shit.

Like I was really like balancing my bill money with the money that I was using for my kid for how the fuck my phone goes to the studio so it really had to stretch nah facts um so like how how quick would you say it takes you to make a song on average oh shit man I ain't gonna let to you we're getting to the point where like

I'm really figuring out that punchin and shit now because like I tell people all the time it's kind of like getting to the league like whenever you up here's like okay it's time to perform like this is what you want you want the money and uh kind of like I've been throwing situations with like I told you

know I used I sometimes have five six days do one song. Yeah. These folks throw you in a room with 20, 30 people, cut a beat on and be like,

hey, make a song. Yeah. And so I've kind of had to adjust to that, but my punching in the process is getting pretty nice. I'm getting to like, if I'm in a good mode,

like, 45 minutes to an hour for like, but like I'm also like extremely hard on myself. Some rappers would be like, I go in there and I can do a song, I can punch in a song 15, 20 minutes.

And be like, I'm so, I beat myself up so much. They'll have to come in there and tell me, like, exactly what you're saying. It's hard as, fuck, just leave it alone. Right. And I'd be like, no, I think I can do it a different way.

Yeah, do you have to, like, intentionally switch up your flow in order to kind of make your song sound different, or does that kind of thing just sort of come naturally? Sometimes, like, sometimes I'd be, well, once again, bro, my biggest critics. I'd be like, you got to switch, you got to switch. And then that type, they'd be like, brother, what did you was just vibe and, like, just natural

on that motherfuck is exactly how you need to do it. Yeah. So it's definitely like, I've always had that, like, sense and like feeling whenever it comes to music. Just like, okay, like, I've always told people, I feel like I have a pretty good when it comes to music as far as like, what sounds good and what don't.

For sure. What's the craziest rapper that's shown up in your DMs, rapper, celebrity, whatever? Man, it's been a couple folks. I've been like, hey, I'm, my boy, Prusha has been pretty tight, man lately. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Atlanta, bro.

I've been around TI. You know, I've Lucci, showed a lot of love. So it's a lot of real, you know, big names. It's like, especially like folks that I looked up to, you know, or listen to when I was younger. So it's just pretty fucking crazy. Is any of them have like words of wisdom for you or kind of let you know what they think you should be doing?

I mean, yeah, definitely everybody I talked to has been like, everything's been real genuine, bro. Like, like, from like Lucha giving me advice, and like, you know, brother, like, just performing and like you're gonna get used to this to like T.I. Give me real, like, life advice, like mental health advice and business advice

And motherfuck is telling me like, bro, like, I've been doing this shit for this long and I've worked with this many people like, bro, you hard as hell. Just to hear shit like that is like really, hell yeah, it's just really make you feel like, okay, this is what I'm supposed to be doing? When you put out that project,

is there going to be any features on it? Yeah, I probably go one or two. Oh, yeah? We're trying to go porch house sandwich remix. Oh, yeah. We're trying to get it locked down on which way we're going to go. You're being tight-lipped about who's going to be on the project?

Probably me and me and my boy, T.I. It's probably definitely going to have one on that. That's a big look. That'd be my shit. Yeah, that's a big, the biggest feature. As soon as you said Poochishty, though, too, I was like, man, that'd be fucked up to hear you on a song with him. That could be crazy.

I just did the FDO. Oh, you did your remix? Yeah, like, two days or yesterday. Right, right as soon as we landed here in California. Yeah. I mean, I feel like that's actually kind of crazy. That's, like, seeming like it's going to be one of the biggest first day out songs ever.

I do not. Yeah. Me and my whole world talking about this shit all the time. And it's like, people give me head. like, Portchop Sandwich was the biggest song to end of year. I'd be like, nah, that boy Shice has dropped and kind of fuck it up. And like, we said, man, like, people have such short attention spans right now. Yeah.

For him to go five minutes, it's like... And I'm not going to lie. I was kind of hating on the length of the song to one of my homies at first. I was like, man, it's too long. Like, he should have came with like two minutes. And then, like, when I find myself listening to the whole thing and still noticing more bars, I'm like, he knew something with that. Yeah, yeah.

It's like, for some reason, that makes it stand out. Way more. Like, he really did five minutes and, like, motherfuckers will play the whole five minutes in the club. Yeah. You standing on it, rapping the hole or something. Yeah, no, my boy did your thing. There's so many bars that you just kind of need to think about. That shit's crazy.

Yeah, he's the last of a dime breed, man. There's not as many dudes like him, man. Yeah, that's, yeah, we're ass off the brook. That's shit crazy. Yeah, no effects. Okay, so, yeah, I guess, I don't know. Like, where do you feel like you're going from here? Like, what's the plan?

Like, you got, what kind of stuff are you focused on? Just making more? music or just doing promotional shit at this point? Or what's the plan? I mean, to be real with you, bro, I'm just, I'm just blessed and happy to be here. Yeah. I'm just kind of, you know, like going with the punches. I'm up to two pretty hot singles right now.

I'm two for two. I'm striking it. And I really want to perfect this project. Folks is on my ass. Like, go ahead and drop, go ahead and drop. Yeah. And I'm ready. I'd be on my team's ass and the labels I ask about like, how quick can we get this done?

And but everybody's stressing to me like, you know, you get to drop your first project one time. Yeah. I'm really trying to keep that into mind. And I really wanted to be a body of work that whenever I presented it not only represents me well, but it represents all the work that I've been putting in there. For sure. Yeah. I mean, you definitely have like a, and it was weird because I would have kind of guess this just from like seeing you in the videos and stuff. But like you have like a very like cool, chill personality that I feel like people are going to really want to with you and get behind you.

Just like real humble and low key, you know. Yeah, that's the man. I just try to be. You know, bro, I'm big on, I'm big on morals and respect. I'm like, you know what I mean? I treat the motherfucker just how they're going to treat me. And like I just, man, like I said, but I'm just blessed to be here. Like I told you, I was just working my ass off 50, 60 hours a week for $600.

So like to be sitting here doing shit like, it's crazy. Nah, no, for sure. I feel like, you know, it's going to be a big year for you for sure. And I'm excited to see how it goes. Yes, sir, yes, sir. Yeah, yeah, man. All right, anybody you want to shout out? Anybody, anything you want to put out there to manifest?

to the universe. Hey man, I just want, you know, continue to say shout out to my team, shout out to God, first and foremost for the opportunity, all the blessings, my kid, my family, my, my pops, my hood, my, man, shit, free little D, free scarl, free I, free J.B, they know I'm on the same shit, bro. I don't, ain't too much else going on. Michelle, man. No, it was great getting to talk, and I'm fully behind you, whatever you need, just let

me know. I feel like, you know, it's going to be a big year, and I feel like, you know, rap needs more shit that's going to spice shit up, and I feel like you definitely seem like you could be a force. We're going to try to shake some shit up for sure. The show. Jay. I appreciate it. I appreciate you all for real. Thank you. Jay Wick, make sure you tap in on Instagram, YouTube, etc. All social media. This guy's going places. No-jum or coolest podcast on world. Like, comment and subscribe. We out.

Yeah, sir.