Jayy Wick on Blowing Up as a White Rapper, His Signature Haircut, Pooh Sheisty Co-Sign & More
00:00No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world.And today I'm in here with a white boy whobeen taking the internet by storm.I know you've seen them on your algorithm.Jay Wick is in the building.Yes, sir.I appreciate you for having me.No, I'm excited, man.
00:11I've been seeing the growth.I was going through YouTube channels and everything,watching like the oldest stuff.And it feels like you really got it togetherover the past like year or so.The music has gotten so much better.It's kind of crazy.So yeah, I appreciate it.
00:23It's always been, you know, a dream and a high being kind of,but like, as far as taking it's serious,it's really like the past, really past six.months has been crazy.Really?Yeah.That's one thing I kind of noticed is that you were talking about, I don't give aI'll work a regular job, like in your older music.
00:37I don't give a fuck about a label, et cetera, like kind of,you've kind of made it clear that you're like more concerned with like being yourselfand standing on who you are rather than just like mindlessly chasing success.Yeah, yeah.And he like, shout out, shout out the empire.Even the label knows that.Like they'd be on my ass.Like, you know, we f*** a week because like we know the music and shit, like the talent
00:57that week has.But like one thing by him is my fucking going to do.like damn there what the fuck he's him right apologetically so yeah yeah no i mean like the game thesedays seems like it really is about authenticity like people just don't chase hits like the way they did10 20 years ago you know they gimmick she's dried up yeah yeah that shit definitely so okay tell us a littlebit about uh where you're from and your upbringing and everything uh so i was born in uhborn in port st lucy florida okay i was a product of the adoption system oh really wentthrough all that shit um my doctor foster parents moved me to georgian and i was like five
01:30six, seven, somewhere around there.And grew up in South Georgia,every since the middle of fucking nowhere,fucking stoplights, hospitals, school, that's about it.So would you say you had overall,like, a good experience with the foster system?Because I've had so many people tell, like,horror stories about it on the podcast over the years, but...
01:46I mean, to be real with you,I was, in that aspect, I was blessed, bro,because, like, I was put in at three days,and I was signed and adopted about three years old.So, like, it was really the first, like,very beginning of my life.I don't really remember none of that shit.And, like, by the time,
01:59I start remembering stuff, I was already like in foster care with the people that ended upadopting me.Right.So like you still have a real good relationship with your foster parents and everything?Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.So like they, they, my foster parents split up whenever I was 11, but my, uh, my adopted dad'slike shit, that's my pops.Yeah.
02:18Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.100%.So you moved from Florida to Georgia at what age?Probably like six, seven, somewhere around there.Okay.And so you basically grew up like not near any kind of big cities or anything?Like that was kind of, yeah, yeah.Like, where we live, like, you got, you got, you got, if you know about, you got
02:35you got making right upon it.Other than that, everything else, country is a motherfucker.Right, for sure.So, like, what was your childhood like?Like, what kind of stuff were you doing or getting into as a young boy?I mean, shit.Just like anybody from a small time, bro, we just kind of did anything to fucking pass thetime, you know, like stupid shit, fun shit, bad, shit, really, whatever the
02:53there was, you know, there wasn't, there's not a whole lot of, like, extracurricular shitfor, like, the youth to really do what we.from so like it's you either don't what you're supposed to do you're getting in trouble for sure were you inthe minority as a white kid yeah yeah I mean like minority angle in the town as a whole no because likeyou know there's a bunch of rednecks and shit like at the exact same point like where I grew up andlike like my bus stop and like my neighborhood and she like hell yeah yeah I was one of the only whiteboys if not the only white boy for sure did that uh toughen you up a little bit did you uh kindand go through the ringer in terms of people giving you a hard time.
03:29It definitely made, you know, it was, you know,motherfucker ain't no hoe.You know, but like, shit, that's just growing up, you know, anywhere.Like, I was never looked at as the white boy neither.Like, of course, in the very beginning, that's how I was.But as, like, motherfuckers figured out who I was and, like,oh, this is real authentic.And, like, bro, really just growing up,
03:49how we growing up, and, like, motherfuckner,I was accepted pretty well.But were you, was it pretty obvious to you from our early age?or do you have like a specific memoryor when you realize like, oh, those rednecks,that's like the average white guy in this townand I'm not really on that type of time.I used to have white people look at me
04:08and be like, the white kids are shit of schooland be like, but like, you know what color you are, right?You know you're white, right?You need the ex.Like, man, like that's the ignorance was always there.Yeah.Like, I always kind of caught the drift of like, yeah,I'm not really like this group of people,
04:24but I'm really not like good.I'm just kind of always did my life.I've been myself my whole life.For sure.I feel like it's hard for people to even understand how much shit I took for like listeningto Jay-Z when I was in 1996 or whatever.Like it was just so not normal because in my school, it was like you were like a rockeror you were a rap fan.
04:43And it was basically like you couldn't really overlap.Like it was just totally looked down upon it.It was a weird time when you think about nowadays it seems like that's the norm.Yeah.No, yeah, yeah.It is kind of cool.You know, I like how music is not like, we have.y'all have a very wide music taste.
04:59Right.Even my whole thing group.If you're a rapper and you talk about how you like rock music or whatever in an interview,people are going to think that's cool.Yeah, yeah, no for sure.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.That's, I mean, with where we grew up and, you know, the people that I grew up aroundand the certain friends I did, but I was introduced to everything, but rap music, country music,
05:17rock music, my pops listens to Southern Gospel.So I just all type of, I've been fascinated with music itself my whole life.Really?Okay.So what was, like, the rap music that first?kind of captured you or made you like a super fan as a young boy.I mean, I tell people I was, I feel like I was born in the perfect period.I was born in 2000.
05:35So like I caught the ass in of the really like dope shit that like, you know, you need to know.And then like I caught like the, I tell people all like my growing up was like thethe Eminem, the Lil Wayne, the Jay Cole, the Drake whenever he really started like thatera, the shit, man, all that really, really good.Like what we know is now is like the right now greats.It was like Philly, really what we watched them build.And then I took people all the time I'm still in a good enough age gapwhere I can relate to all the new young shit that still comes out.
06:05So it's like, man, I feel like I was born in like the perfect spotwhenever comes to music.For sure.And did you know anybody was rapping when you were youngor do you have to kind of figure it all out for yourself?Like locally?Yeah.I mean, yeah, it was like, I mean, yeah, it was a big local thing.
06:18It was like, it's an assload of talent where I'm from.It's a whole bunch of small-time rappers and folks got real talent down there.So yeah, I was just one of the same people trying to damn nearbe like the people I saw, you know,in the town or at the bus stop or wherever the fuck it was at just rap and just whenever i'di'd watch my motherfuckers freestyle and then go back to the damn house and watch battle rap videosand try to do my own little bit of research when if i'd ask you when you were 16 who yourfavorite rapper was who would you have said little wang yeah that's probably about that man he
06:47he had the whole especially what i'm from man he had them to everybody f***ed up whatever aboutthat hell from like 14 15 to like damn 18 yeah man he had hair yeah yeah yeah yeahNah, facts.That's all that was going on for real.But, okay, like, what kind of stuff are you into, like, during high school and shit?Were you getting into trouble?You were running around the streets or, like, what kind of kid were you?I mean, it was doing a lot of shit, brother.
07:08I ain't gonna say, like, I was just, like, all the way in the streets.But, like, you know, that was going on too.But, like, man, I took my ass to school.I was just a regular shit, but I was smoking weed or played a couple of different sports.Just here, just trying shit.But I was really just a regular kid, bro.It was just, I was just a white boy that grew up and just a cool-ha white boy that everybody knew.And shit, everybody, like, always knew, like,
07:28no matter what the fuck I did, wherever we was at,everybody's like, man, like,that my fucking be rapping his ass.I'd be in the back of class, making beats.Really?So even when you were young, that was something you were fucking with a lot.Yeah, yeah, do your research.Right home, anybody to tell you,
07:42like, yeah, he been doing this rapping shit, he's been doing that.Was there anything about Eminem that kind of affected you?Because I feel like that probably was, like,the first white rapper for almost everybody from our generation,like, that really stood out.Like, was there anything about that that made you, like,Oh, okay, like, it is possible.I mean, really just, especially with him, like,
08:00and I think the movie, they did a great job, like,really laying it out in the movie.Yeah.But, like, showing just, like, where bro came from?I'm like, you know, how shitty the sister could, like,shit, shit wasn't ever, you know, roses and fucking butterflies.So, like, I was to see that other people that look like yourself, you know,come from a shitty situation and do something that you've dreamed about doing.
08:19It's like, okay, yeah, this is really possible.So you, uh, you graduate at high school?Yeah, yeah, yeah.Okay.And then what did you do afterwards?So I tried to go to college.My folks was on some shit.Like, you don't want to work no bullshit job.
08:33You're not doing what you want to do with music.What you always said, you're going to do with music.Like, you need to go to school.And so I went to school, had just enough GPA with the fucking state and everything would pay for it.And I did like two and a half semesters in college.Figured out that shit wasn't for me.Dropped out and just kind of just stayed in the hood.And, like, you know, got me in job and just started working a couple years when I had a little boy.
08:55How much, was that planned or how did the...No, I mean, shit, none of it was.Like, on all the baby, none of it was.Hell, no.At my head, whenever I got to college, I was like,well, shit, I'd have made it to college.I thought I would never get here.I'm fin to graduate.
09:10Yeah.Ah, that shit went out of the window.But in terms of becoming a dad,did that, like, kind of change things a lot?Oh, for sure.Yeah, that's like a...I was cool with, like, getting by before I had my little boy.Right.
09:21You know, as long as shit, the bills paid.I got some weed to smoke.All the little basics.this is covered.I ain't really tripping,but like,once that damn,the kid will put a real fire
09:29up under your ass.Like,yeah,kind of,and that's what reallymade me get back on this music shit.It was like,I'd be at work,
09:35busting my ass,making six,$700 a week,and I'd be talking to myselfin my head,like,damn, man,like,
09:42you really got the talentto be a rapper.Like,you're gonna have to tell your little boy,like,for the rest of your life.I got to go to workbecause I didn't chase my dreams.
09:49Yeah.Damn.okay.So what did you takein more serious look like?because, I mean, it's one thing to be a good rapper,but realistically, it's tough to make it happenif you don't really have a budget
10:01or any kind of money to put behind yourself.Well, I feel like a big part of itis finding people that believe in you.Because, like, I didn't have no budget.Like, the porchop sandwich that blew up,that did all that shit, like, I paid,this is my role manager here also,just on my camera work.
10:16I paid, bro, like, $200, I think,to pull up on me and come shoot the video.And, like, we didn't, we had zero budget.Like, we didn't do, we used everything,we had around us and we put together a five videos it's about quality man you put together a qualitysong quality video and got you know especially you got your little little small circle of realsupport where you're from to help kind of boost you up out though you got a good chance yeah nodefinitely like has that kind of always been your approach is like let's do more quantity uh quality
10:44over quantity instead of just flooding this shit let's like really find like songs that reallymake sense and push those i mean here here recently yeah there's definitely been the game plan it'sIt was a lot whenever I was younger, but I was just kind of like, I want to do music.It's like, you know, okay, I got time to do music this weekend.I can afford to go to the studio.I did a song, okay, whatever the fuck I got from the studio this weekend, I'm going to put it on YouTube.I'm dropping however.So I had to kind of get over that part.
11:09But like once I realized, like you said, it's a couple quality songs and stopped trying to just force feed some shit.Because I was, my manager, Kima, told me three, four years ago whenever we first met,she was like, what's the point of you having150, 100 songs?You don't nobody know one fucking hit single.You don't have one hit single.You don't have one song.Everybody's like, oh, yeah, that's that guy.
11:33One really good songs is way more useful than like a couple hundredwhatever songs.I'm sitting here talking to you because of one song.Exactly, yeah.You feel like all the, you don't know shit about any other music that I've done.I'm sitting here talking about you just the one song.Because I go back and I listen to like the older stuff and everything.But it's like when I listen to the older stuff, I'm like, okay, I see this as like the building
11:52block that shows me kind of how he got to where he's at now where he's made songs that reallyresonate with people.But it's weird too because it's like we grow up looking at rappers like Lil Wayne or Gucci orJeezy or whoever, who you're used to seeing them put out mixtape after mixtape and justreally like flooding the streets, like once, which is kind of true.Like once you're really getting your zone, once you're that good, you can do that.But like if you're really just trying to get people to pay attention to you for the first time,it's kind of like, let's make like the perfect song and just push the fuck out of that.
12:21And like back then too, like that was the mixtape era.That's what they had to do.Like we have the opportunity of viral moments.So like viral moments one of the huge thing back then.So like now it ain't shit to put together one good clip with a quality song.Do three million views and now a whole bunch of my fucks that didn't know you know you.So I mean we definitely have a leverage there.No, that is a really good point.
12:42That was such a different era because in 2007 it was like we were so new to the idea that like a rapper like a littleWayne could just drop mixtape.So he blew up so much bigger by just putting out mixtape after mixtape.But this era right now where the world is so flooded with content and it's so hard to get people to pay attention to anything that having a TikTok or an Instagram real that goes crazy is like that's the thing that you really need to be aspiring to, you know?Yeah.We're definitely in that six to ten second era.We're like everybody's attention span.You got this long to grab me.
13:14Then once you grab them, you got this long to keep them.That's crazy, bro.Yeah.Think about it constantly.Yeah.but okay so did you feel like in those early days or whatever that your fan base like was peoplelistening to you on like a local level were you getting support from the local communityum i mean i feel like there was ups and downs like like like i said everybody always knew that i
13:34rapped but then like as far as like support you know support takes takes a little bit of of nudge anda little bit of damn love and you know it takes a little while to build real support so uh i think it cameto the point of like really like onceonce I had like 18, 19,20 and was like still going to the studiostill putting shit out and sheintroduced me to Bussey one time.I got to sit down and meet up with Bussey and folks
13:58saying that okay he's really kind of taking it seriousand the actual like buildingblocks for support from my hometownstarted coming together.Now it's you,motherfuck can't get online and say something about the white boyfrom bite home without like man everybodyfrom by home like they own that.
14:14That's gonna be a good feeling. No for sure for sure.Because, like, I put so much in my reputation as just me being myself.Like, what you see is what you get with me.And so, like, to know that, like, people genuinely support that, man,that's the best feeling in the world.Definitely.When's the first time you actually went viral, what did you say?I did the, uh, little baby dropped, uh, the emotionally scarred.
14:36What album was that on?I was, uh, holograph.Okay, though, yeah, he dropped, emotionally scarred.I redid the, uh, that, that beat probably like two,weeks after he dropped the album.And I did like 800,000 views on Facebook.Oh, shit.Yeah, that's like really country shit.
14:57We Facebook's like huge thing back.So that's that shit.I was really only ever having traction on Facebook.And then I did, like I said, that shit blew up.And it allowed me to meet my manager.And then she took me to Bucci off all that.You know, shit played out how it did.But that was like many years ago, right?
15:1720, probably like 19.Right.For sure.Damn, so you probably had like some pretty long stretches where you weren't really havinganything pop off where you were starting to doubt yourself and shit.Yeah.Working a real job.Like hating my head.
15:31Yeah, for real.That is a crazy thing now is that like people think like, oh, you go viral and then that'sjust it.But reality is, it's like you could go viral 10 times and then maybe something hits finallythat like gets you over that hump of it's not just this littleviral moment and it's like people are actually really listening to the music.As much as like I said, we do live in the viral moment as you know, as important as thatis a viral moment's not going to get like it's so easy to go viral and I like, that's not
15:58just what's going to put you over the top.Yeah.That might like shine the spotlight, but you got to really be able to come back to back if youreally want to like lock that attention in.Yeah.And actually like once you've kind of gone viral and people are sort of familiar with you,then you all of a sudden have like a new challenge, which is how do I like,really get people to fuck with my music and take it seriously, not just be like a gimmick or whatever.
16:20For real.Yeah.And I feel like it was even a little harder just being Caucasian because it's like it was a whole lot to prove it's in like, I'm hard.You know I'm hard, but I'm also not a gimmick.Like, you know, this is genuinely like who the fuck I am.Definitely.Did you feel like how much do you think that the hair started to impact like the virality of it?because I feel like that's definitely something that stands out to people,
16:47that, like, it's hard to forget.It's really became a look, and, like, it's a look on a good and bad thing.You know, folks from where I'm home, that's kind of how I got my name,because, like, I had a long-ass hair as the white boy.I walked around with a big-ass gun.So it became like a genre.And then, like, I had the fucking German Shepherd, but I had to,it was times that, like, I'd be going through with my baby mama.
17:08I'd be in the hood, nowhere to go with my dog.Like, big ass just out there.They'd be like, this motherfucker.It's really John Wick out of my fucking.And so that shit kind of stuck.And that shit, you know, I get the, I get the Jesus comments and shit.Okay, I mean, that shit's act, man.That's, they give me hell with that one.
17:28But, you know, it's a.Was there anybody who influenced the hairstyle?Or you just, like, kind of slowly gravitate towards that?No, I just started growing my shit out, bro.I got to the point where I was just like, I didn't really know what to do it.I always had a hat on.and I just found like oneit just got to a point where I never cut it
17:45YeahAnd shitI mean if you're young and your hair is strong enoughThat you can have long hairFor sure I feel like you should do itBecause by the time you get to your 30s and 40sIt starts seeming a lot less realisticYeah no I'm man
17:58I'm fucking 25And like already likeThey'd be in my comments upIt's about time to go to TurkeyYou got that rap moneyI went I got the plug for you if you need itYeah yeah it's crazy cheapFor real?
18:11Yeah, I didn't have to pay for it, but the guy sitting next to me in the van when we'rebeing transported to the thing is like two grand.I'm like, two grand.I'm like, and for like really fitting his whole shit up, I'm like, that's an amazing dealbecause out here it would be like 10K plus.Yeah, yeah, yeah, we need to go to Turkey.Not sure, yeah, I got the plug.But, okay, so, yeah, I don't know.
18:34Like, I feel like you kind of have had a moment recently.Was it the all-flat song or there was that other song?kind of popped off right before that too, right?The pork chop sandwich.Yeah, yeah.Went first.Okay.And did that just feel like that?
18:48I don't know.Like, that just was like a whole different level.Like, damn, people fuck with this song and it's different than a lot of the songs that theymight have been feeling before that.And then that's a big part of what it was, especially for me, bro.It was like, it was, you went listening to some of the oldest shit.So you know it's totally fucking different compared to what I was doing.I'm listening to the oldest stuff and I'm like, wow.
19:07He figured out his flow in the newer stuff, way better.than the stuff that even from like a year ago,like you just put the pieces of the puzzle together.I was pretty impressed.And like I tell,and a lot of these interviews,where I tell people like,I used to get,
19:20I don't say criticized,but a lot of my fellows gave me hellbecause there was like,bro,like,in a way you make sad music.Like,because like,
19:25music really started as like an emotional release for meand like how to get shit out of my headand shit like that.And so I just kind of always made more like,thought out emotional music.And so one of my buddies came to meone day he was like,you need to kind of relax with it.
19:40I have a little bit of fun.I was like, I never really looked at it from like the having fun aspect.You know, I'm just kind of always, this is how I got my thoughts out.And once I looked at it from like a real having fun aspect, it was like,I just unlocked a whole another fucking level.For sure.But the pork chop sandwich, though, that's like a normal thing that y'all eat out therebecause I never have one of those.
20:00Oh, for real, bro.Sounds amazing.Where you got to come?You be in Atlanta often?Occasionally.It's been a little bit.You come to Georgia, bro.You got to come down.
20:07I take a good, like, real, like, fried pork chop sandwich sandwich.Oh, it's fried.Fried pork chop sounds.Oh shit.Take your pork chop, fried.Where do you get it at?Shit, like, my people, like, at the house.But there's a couple of restaurants and shit down.
20:19Like, it's a real thing down there.But like, that shit, like,motherfuckings are making that for supper at the crib.Definitely.Yeah.So you spent a lot of time in Atlanta now at this point?Yeah, they got me up there right now.I'm running on.
20:30I ain't gonna say they.I kind of took myself up there, but it was more of like,everybody kind of had the idea, like,you're running with the country boys shit.And then like, I think they kind of like,they heard the country,country boy shit and they thought they was gonna be able to like throw a cowboy hat on me andkind of like wrong with country boy and then they started meeting me and they was like okay like
20:48this ain't really that right this is just like you like a country boy because like you're fromgeorgian and shit and they was kind of like you know you might want to stay down there where you're at andwork the country somebody once they met me and like my whole teams in Atlanta I was like you knowit kind of makes sense for me to be in a little because this is two and a half hour drive for me to get toAtlanta and working with them I'd be in Atlanta three four times a week yeah so well you think thatLike certain people saw the opportunity of like, oh shit, we could like kind of hit the country market as well as the hip hop market.Is that you?It's definitely a beach.
21:20I told whatever I said, I was talking about my deal and everything.I was telling him, like, I like money, bro.Like, all money ain't good money, you know.But like I'm definitely believing, like, I like money, but I'm a hustler.So, like, if I can do something a little bit different, it's like not changing who I am,but just stepping outside of my comfort zone a little bit to make a little bit of extra money,I'm all for that. How big X to plug and shibuz in there and be like,Swat, jump, man. Like, it's a real bag right now. But you just,
21:48I don't want that to become my identity neither. Like, I'm me.Like, this shit.That's the tricky part is, like, at a certain point, do you put yourself in too manycountry situations and it makes it harder for people to, like, think of you as, like, a regularrapper? I feel like Big X to Plug is a good example, though. He just did, like, a whole countryalbum. And I don't think his, like, rap fans give a shit.He does it perfect.You know, maybe they like it, maybe they don't,
22:11but it's not, like, affecting them in a negative waywhere they can't listen to his straight rap shit.No, for sure.For sure, yeah, I think he's got a real good balanceon, like, who he is.And, like, that's really all that comes down tois, like, knowing, like, shit,this is who the fuck I am.
22:24I just, like, like, like,whenever you come from that,people hear country,and, like, I feel like a lot of people think horses,cowboy boots.Like, you know, it's, like, we round that shit,but, like, I'm just, motherfuckingcherious.Like, how I was raised,
22:34how I grew up, the mannerisms that I have,the way that I speak, shit like that.It's also crazy just becausecountry, like, musically is so closeto hip hop sometimes now, where, like, the beatssound weirdly similar.The drums are super similar.It's just kind of like the gulf between the two
22:51is not that crazy anymore.No, not at all.Not at all.They definitely made it very easy to mash the genrestogether down there.So, like, but it's, I think it works well,like, especially, like, there's a couple of songsthat, you know, it's like, you could have kept,
23:04but like, a lot of, like,the big hits where they do like the big country artistsand they throw a big stream, I think a lot of those hitslike, they did their fucking thing.Definitely.Is that something you like listen to a lot as a kid?Was that like something you were just kind of constantly hearing?Kind of, like I said, bro, I grew up in South Georgia.
23:21I grew up around a ass lot of country music too.Like, you know, my few, I didn't have a bunch of family,my few direct family that I have and a couple of my friends, like,except for like where I grew up, I did hang out with a couple of white folks too.So like, you know, they like, they,they would be around their parents and their grandparents you know they're listening to old Hankwilliams like oh the old country and shit so i've been whatever i tell you i've literally been in thewhole mixing pot of all that shit whenever it comes to music i've literally been around at all
23:47yeah that's kind of a crazy thing too because i'm from the east coast but like my mom likekind of just started listening to country at a certain point and her explanation why i was basicallylike they don't make like she grew up listening to you know classic rock and shit but she's like theyThey don't make music that really just talks about relationships and like normal shit like that anymore.Like country kind of like hits a chord that she just felt like she wasn't really getting from the type of music that she grew up listening to.So she sort of fell into it.For sure.And it does to an extent.
24:16You know, in a way, that's one of the reasons I don't really with country music like as I'm maybe my favorite genre.It's because like I feel like a lot of country music is the same shit.Yeah.Like, you know, my girl left me.But then again, you know, motherfuckies say the same shit about rap music.Yeah, yeah, yeah.So, like, it's all down to down how you look at it.Because when I was, like, explaining to my girl why I don't really, like,
24:37but listen to the country that much.And I'm realizing, as I'm saying shit, that it's just purely, like,what you affiliate or associate yourself with culturally because it's like,as soon as I hear a dude start rap, uh, singing in a country song about drinking beer,it just don't really register with me because to me, I never really thought drinking beerwas all that cool.And then I'm like, as I'm saying that, I'm thinking, like, okay,but there's a million songs that you love about smoking weed and drinking
25:00and lean. And it's like, okay, well, like, culturally, I just kind of likeaffiliate myself more with that kind of stuff and think that kind of shit's cool.And same thing, like, if you're singing about, you know, driving around in a pickup truck,I don't really got anything against a pickup truck, but it just doesn't really, like,strike that chord with me.Relatable. Yeah, that's a big thing with music. And, like, that's why a lot of peoplefeel like they have a connection to artists.Because, like, you know, music, music makes shit feel relatable.
25:24Definitely.You can never meet somebody in hear a song and be like, damn, I feel like I know this.Mm-hmm. Facts.Okay, so where'd the name actually come from?Jay, your government name?Yeah, I mean, so my name is Justin.So I just took the Jay.And the John Wick thing?
25:40Is that kind of where it came from?Yeah, they gave me the Wick thing.So, yeah, yeah, I didn't, I tell people about it.I did not name myself.That's real story.So that's normal shit where you're from,that you can just walk around with a gun on your hip and it's no big deal?We live in Georgia.
25:53Yeah, yeah, yeah.Yeah, yeah.So, like, yeah, we got open carry.Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.We love guns.Do you think open carry is good for society?I mean, yeah.Like, I feel like I'm a big believing
26:06guns don't kill people, like, you know, that kind of thing.Like, man, you give a stupid motherfucker a gunand he goes to shore his ass, it's not like,it's a stupid motherfucker's fault.I feel like, you know, as society as a whole, like,gun guns is very big for like, you know, where we liveand shit like that, like, especially like in the South, man,everybody in their, everybody, grandma got a gun down that bit.
26:27Yeah.It's just literally like a way of life.my fucks is used to that so yeah I'm yeah yeah yeah like when I'm down in Texas or whatever it'sdefinitely a feel of people are not gonna fuck around as readily because of the reality of the factthat like probably a large percentage of the people here are strapped but then I was let downwhen I went to Nashville and we were going to a lot of different places and there was like nofirearms allowed signs in front of everywhere I'm like oh okay it's not as a chill as you'dthink that's like that's like insurance pervue yeah that's shit that bitch is everywhere in
26:58Atlanta too he just believe is some shit in that beat yeah yeah yeah any mile you go inat Atlanta you're gonna see a sign to say no fire arms and I yeah yeah yeah yeah I meanwe've heard plenty of stories that would say otherwise unless you're gonna metaldetect everybody on the way in which is such a huge pain and that's but I have heard themabout doing that in Atlanta and certain malls and stuff that you gotta go to metal detectorsand shit we really don't have no issues walking through nowhere for the for the most part you knowBut shit, if it's one of them shit, and the week, it's not going in.We're going to turn around and go back in the car.
27:31We don't go to South Lake.So you still just have one kid?Yeah, I got a little boy.Okay.And how old now?Two and a half.Two and a half.That'll be three in September.
27:40Okay.So is that like extra gratifying, just that you're starting to see success musically as a result,like just the fact that now you can do things for your kid that you haven't beenable to previously?Or just knowing that, like, at some point they're going to look at your life and be,damn, like my dad actually really.did something with the music.I mean, for sure, you know, that's always the goal is just like,
28:01I feel like any parent relates to, like,how the fuck am I going to take care of these kids?What the fuck am I going to do to really, like, provide?And my whole thing is like, brother,my pops work 9 to 5.I watched my dad make, like, $19,000 a year at one pointand, like, stood on every fucking bit of businessthat ever had to be stood on.
28:20Right.So, like, for me to know, especially now with, like,the position that I'm in, man,it's like, you know, I can't be nothing but thankfuland give all praise to God for me being in a positionwhere like I can handle all the businessand not really like without really having to lift a fingerat this point.
28:34So yeah, it's definitely probably the most,really and truly probably the most gratifying thing I've ever done,bro, to really like know that like I'm my biggest critic, you feel me?So to really be able to pat myself on the backand be like, you did it, boy, it is a nice feeling.But did you grow up thinking that a normal 9 to 5was like a good outcome?Did you look at that as something that you were kind of dreading?
28:58Like, that would be your backup plan?I mean, I always knew, I mean, it's definitely a backup plan.Like, I always knew that, like, bills had to be.The landlord wanted their motherfuck of money.And, like, oh, you know, I grew up with, like, my dad was real, like,nine to five, like, stick to the book type of guy.And then, like, I grew around dope boys and gangsters.So, like, you know, as having, like, the whole mix,
29:20what I always knew was, like, you got to get some money.But, like, my pops didn't steal in me.I don't work the ass load of job.I did a bunch of shit.So my pop's really instilled them.Like, ain't nothing wrong we're going to work.Like, if you broke and you ain't got no hustleor you're not in a position, like,
29:36you could really be hustling.Yeah, you need to go get a damn job.That shit.But in the same time, like, I'd be at jobs writing music.I got fired from a job just because I was in my noteswriting music so much.So it was like, you know, this job shit's cool.Like, I always had that real passion
29:53to be like, man, this is not where I'm supposed to be.For sure.Did you ever, like, being that you kind of grew up around people who were really hustling,like, was there ever times that you look back on where you were, like, on the verge ofmaybe, like, getting fully in the streets, like, on some serious, serious level?I mean, like, motherfuck did what the fuck they've had to do.Like, you know, the bills have always been paid regardless of what job I were working like.So, like, I ain't ever really, but like I said, bro, I just, I've always,
30:26I'm gonna get me some money.I know that I have responsibilities.A younger me was to a pointwhere he didn't give a fuck about responsibility.So like, you know, I was real like,there was a point where I was 18,fresh out of high school shit, sitting on the couchand realized, like, had folks doing for me
30:42and, like, didn't really care.And so, like, not, like, I know, like, I got responsibility.I got shit that I got to do.So yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get up off my ass.Do you always smoked weedssince you were super young?Like, do you feel like,like when you think about it,
30:55you were saying to make it six seven hundred dollars a week i'm like damn that must have beenat a certain point like you got to really conserve if you want to smoke weed on that kind ofbudget i'm sure it's really yeah it's definitely budgeting like shit a lot of a lot of shit's justlike it came down to points where it was like hey like i need you to front me to nick as weyou know there's been plenty of those situations but like yeah i've smoked weed like probablyi'm 25 probably like the past 12 13 years of my life i probably started like dabbling andsmoke winter if i was like 12 13 years old just like whenever likeLike, my adoptive, my adoptive, I was 11.
31:28And I stayed with my pop.So, like, by the time I'm like 11, turning into 12,he kind of, like, started letting go with the leash a little bit.And, you know, I started walking to the project.Like, the apartments that I live was right here.There was an elementary school right here.And then the project was right down here at the bottom of the hill.So I ain't do nothing but walk down past school.
31:46And I have all my folks and all my friend and live right down the project.So as I get older, he started kind of letting me go.And then it got to, okay,would you come back when the street lights come on?And then, okay, come back, be back at 10 o'clock.So I was 13 years old out there, nine, waiting on the damn sun to go down in the middle of sometimes smoke wheat.Yeah.Yeah, that's a hell.
32:03Yeah, man, it's a...People ask me on time, why do you smoke?And, like, I feel like there's a ass a lot of different answers.Like, you know, it's...You smoke weed?Like, regularly anymore?Every day, all day, for 15 years and I stopped like a month and a half ago or some shit.Yeah, I still fuck with the wax pen a little bit.
32:21But I just stopped, like, because I smoked blunts and fucking...splifts and shit for so long. Now I got this little guyon me, just in case. ButI don't know. I just felt like I reallywanted to start taking my health as serious aspossible. Like I still smoke a little bit, butI just kind of had to fall back. I don't know.Yeah, facts. I don't know.
32:38You're young. Keep going. Keep going now.And everybody tells me that. They're like, but you're young asI am to the point where likeit's just part of the routine.Like, you know, it's just like, I wakeup, I brush my teeth, I shower,I roll the blunt. Yeah. Just like you eatbreakfast. And I feel like a lot of people
32:54can know to smoke weed like shit, it'd bedays, you'd be like, man, I need to smoke.Oh, yeah. I mean, I will saythough, that there are, like, I just have a lotmemories of my life of, like, waking upand smoking a blunt and then having to godo something that was like kind ofcomplicated or high pressure.
33:10And, like, when I look back on it, I'm like,why the fuck were you, like...Why did you have for you to do that shit, bro?Like, I'm doing these crazyinterviews with these big names and shit.I'm like, why did you face a blunt before you didthat like you didn't have to do that that was like you made that a lot harder than it had to be buti feel like with the lifestyle of an artist going in the studio rap and making music and shit that shit is
33:31kind of like really lends itself to to that you know it does it does and like my uh my mind's alwaysalways been really fast-paced so like whether whether it's thoughts or whether it's like what do igot to do today or whether it's like a real like mental health level it's always been superfast-paced for me so like the weed kind of slow that shit down definitely you with other drugsOr not really not reallyI had a whenever I was youngI was on Adirah PrescriptionAnd then I came off of it
34:00I was like 16And then you know whenever I was like 18, 21I kind of back and forthI used it for more like when it couldbenefit me because like especiallyAs I really tried to like get intoI did a lot of like night shift jobsAnd like I was working
34:15I'd be working like four to five hoursAt a day shift jobCets like two three hours of sleep go do a night shift joband they didn't sleep eight hours.Really?And, yeah, so, like, that was, I took, I'd take Adderallelthat before I went over, but not, I ain't really.What kind of night shift jobs?
34:29Oh, I did, I did electrical work.Oh, like, yeah, like, so I come in here with all these ties and, like,they had the big, or the light trays, this shit would turn out, change out all the lights.Oh, that's cool.Motion sensitive bullshit.Yeah.Yeah, yeah.What about drinking?
34:41You're a daily drinker, or you a...Really, like, I'll drink for, like, social and, like, I walk around with this big ass bottleof tequila, but I'll drink.two like drinks out of it the whole thing day.I'm not really big on like drunkennessand shit like that.But like I mean,I'll drink,
34:59you know,for the vibe.Yeah.No,that's why I would say is that like,I feel like the challenge with alcohol is that a small amount is really greatas like a social lubricant.But,
35:10you know,if you get drunk as shit,like especially in the music industrywhen you get me meeting people that are importantthat you want to make a good impression on,etc.Like I have memories of just geeking off Mollymeeting like,
35:22super important, like, music industry people.And when I look back on it, I'm like,damn, they were probably looking at me like such a tweaker.Damn, I was out there.Yeah.No, no, no, for sure.Yeah, I just, with alcohol, man, it's like a,you've got to know where you are with alcohol and, like,
35:36your limits and shit, because you definitely get past that point.I don't like, I don't like people to see because I look like a real jackass.I'm trying to get drunk, man.I'm slapping, I'm falling asleep and shit like that.No, I feel that for sure.Okay, so you got caught stealing from the store when you were.were real young.Hell yeah.
35:53Was that the first time you got in trouble?Not in trouble.The first time the cops came?Yeah, yeah, type of shit.Just some young petty shit, bro.And then one of my home boysand fucking around and took some shit,the mother's trying to take the blade for some shit.
36:09Was that like a reality checkor like your parents get pissed off at you for it?I mean, they definitely's pissed off.It's just a petty shit, bro.I ain't, we can fuck.I was backdoor stupid bullshit.Whatever I tell you, there's literally nothing to dowhere we're from like absolutely no we're as bad as for no reason but we should do shit just see what
36:26we can get away with yeah yeah no you definitely reach that point like because you're a young kidand you think that you're just supposed to follow all the rules and then somehow it likecomes into your mind at a certain point like for me i think i was probably like 11 or 12 where it waslike oh you can get away with shit like i could go to the store and steal shit and get away withit and nothing's going to happen and then i got the reality check of like oh no something willYeah, something will happen eventually.What does your adopted dad think about you kind of getting all this notoriety and stuffand people pay attention to you now?
36:59Do you think he gets it?Yeah, yeah, for sure.He's always, like I said, he's real, like Southern Gospel, real Christian, real, real big into the church.But, like, at the same time, like, shout out my pops.He's always known who his son was.And, like, he's never really, like, he's never knocked me for who I was.He never really rode me too hard for it.And I just kind of got to a point where he was like, you know,
37:25my son's a white boy to be rapping.And now that this shit's pop, man.He'll call me all the time, like,some lady just stopped me in Walmart, told me, you know,oh, you're, you're Jay Wick's dad.Really?So yeah, it feels good, bro.It was definitely good.
37:37I pulled up on them, I gave me some money, you know.Oh, nice.See, I'm fin to go buy him a car whenever we get back to Georgia.So just doing, being able to shit like that, feels nice.That's what's up.So, yeah, okay, the pork chop sandwich song went by,viral, like, how did that kind of play out?Because you did, like, a hanging mic for a couple of your different songs and stuff.
37:54Like, did that really kind of help it go to another level?That was really, like, the, hey, we should actually do this moment.Yeah.So it was really my son's birthday.And, like, we was down there in the country and I looked at my baby,my mom.I was like, I kind of wanted to go to the city.Take birth to the city.
38:10We took him to the aquarium, shit out for his birthday.And we had this, I got this nice house hotel room, balcony and everything.And I was like, shit.I could really do a little mic drop while I'm up herebecause I knew brother lived in the cityand I caught him and I was like,but it's like, what's schedule like?Let's do a little mic drop.
38:26I got like three or four songs I want to choose from,let's just see.And he was like, fuck it I pull up on him.He pulled up on me at the hoteland I walked down there to get himand he's just blaring pork chop sandwich.I haven't sent it to nobody.Like he's got it, like two other people have it.
38:39And he just pulls up beating it.And he's smiled, I head cuts down.He's like, bro, we need to do this one, bro.And so we walk back upstairsand I play all the other songs.He's like, no, no, no.We need to do this porch-out sandwich shit.And we shot the mic drop right on the balcony,
38:53and the numbers did good enough on, like, Facebookand where we put it on YouTube,while I was like, okay, you know, like,folks, it's fucking with this.And so we decided to turn around,shoot a music video like two weeks later,and it did, you know, decentwith just me putting it on YouTube by itself.
39:09And then I had one clip go viral on Instagram,and it went from like 10,000 to like 50,000,like, whatever I could show.I was like, oh, shit, man.It just constantly was going up every 30 minutes.Definitely.I mean, is it a coincidence that both of the songs that are really taken offare, like, food titles?
39:27Yeah, I mean.All flats being a wing reference.I'm not the food guy, bro.I tend to do this shit all the time, bro.That's why I'm so ready to drop this project.Because there's so much other folks are going to see and be like, oh, shit.But they are, we weird.That country shit real, though, man.
39:44We like to eat, bro.So, like, you know, I'm one of them just like,whenever I say shitif I rap about itbrother I rap about my real lifelike whatever aspect that islike whether it be foodor like what I'm doing that day
39:55or whatever so like wheneveryou hear shit like thatjust know like manthat's one cut your asswhite white manthat's gonna fucking raping about flatsno factsyou really like those more though
40:05I feel like I'm always been like amy partner drum guy tooyeah yeah yeahhell no I feel like I feel like I feel like I feel like I feel like I'm gonnayeah yeah really I need a mix thoughlike I'm trying to kind of bounce back and forthyeah yeah yeah if it was alljust one I would be like a little bit let down yeah variety of textures you know I
40:22flats well what kind of sauce you prefer oh hot lemon pepper oh yeah with like lemon peppersprinkles see that's another thing too where it's like I kind of crave variety like if yougo wing stopping it like three three three three yeah yeah was what's your like top three oh shitI like really really hot for real yeah yeah the hottest that got on them off it kind of dependsthough yeah yeah maybe one of hundred I ordered uh Thai foodrecently and it said like one through 10 you could pick your spice level yeah and i think i pickedfive and this was a serious mistake like it was so much hotter than i ever could have imaginedi can't even fathom what 10 would have been like an eight or something they were that's false
41:01advertisement for five yeah i was just like i don't know these these Thai people they got ficked upstandards for hot i i didn't really expect that um so okay like do you do a bunch of label meetingsand stuff before you landed with empire or what was the thought process on that yeah we did we did a little bitrunning around.I got invited LVRN,reached out.I kind of,we kind of knew a mutual person.
41:24And I was like,yeah,I haven't come throughand especially like an hour long meetingand it turned to like a six hour meeting.And we sat in the studio,played an astrolode,unreleased,
41:32taught business.And after that meeting,I was really likeexplaining to my team,you know,all the like,who all's messaging me right nowon Instagram?
41:44And I was like, man,like we just,we really need to go talk.to everybody.And so we didn't, I say talk to everybody.We, there was a bunch more people we could have went and talked to.Right.We did Miami.
41:57We left Miami.We left, we left Atlanta, went to Miami.I was in Miami for like three days.Left Miami.Went straight to California.I was in California flight two, three days.And we was getting ready to fly home.And we found and missed our flight.
42:11And in the process of us trying to get back to our next flight.My manager was talking to guys and everything.guys who's kind of like like let's figure something out like I don't want I want to go nowhere rightand uh we went back chop it up and we definitely figured something not like I don't know 100% butI feel like empire like the appeal is kind of that you have more control more ownership versus likesome of the other labels might kind of promise you more but they're also probably going to takea larger share of your income yeah I mean that's a big thing to me like I didn't do nothingmake the music bro like that was my whole life it's like i didn't understand the business i
42:50never really known anything about it's like all the meetings and shit i was just kind of thereand then uh you got to a point where like i started kind of like peeping out like okay this is how itworks and then once i've realized how like gauzi's got a structure over there and how empire is likeset up i was like okay well this makes a lot of sense because like in the eyes of somebody whoknows that they want to make some money,like this makes a lot of sense.Right.And I,
43:15and I,guys are in an expert,like, he's a hustler.And, like, guys are still hands-on.Like, guys are still love fucking wit in music.Right.So, like, that make it way more interesting.No, 100%.
43:26Um,so when you look at, like,what you're really trying to accomplish musically,like,like,I'm sure you have, like,giant dreams for the music and everything.Does it feel like hip hop is in a weird place
43:39because people,people like to push this narrative out therethat rap is in like a relativelow spot historicallydoes it feel like that or does it feel likewhen the labels are looking at youthey're kind of excited because they haven'tit's not 2017
43:54again where they're just flooded with new artistsevery day. I meanI'm definitely something newto like what the fuck's going on right nowand like I think that's why I get a lot of loveit's because like people be like boy likewe ain't really seen nothing like thisbut as far as like
44:09hip hop being in like a weird spot manI feel like as long as this folks making the musicand telling their storylike the culture is always gonna beat itlike that shit's stampedthat shit's firmyou can't really shake that too muchso like it's just about like
44:24the amount of authenticityyou have coming through the peoplethat's making the musicnow that's where like shit get a little shakylike the hip hop hop itselfhas never been the issueit's just the couple peoplethey come in and go to go to fucking up the narrative yeah that's that's really the issue yeah it's a
44:45wild time too because i feel like so much of it is just the labels not investing as much like it feelslike a couple years back the labels were still just dumping money into new artists so like fromsomebody like me's perspective there was always just kind of new artists the labels were building upand like turning them into stars and shit and it feels like that process just happens way less nowBut we also just live in such a fragmented like information landscape in the sense that there's just so much shit to pay attention to that it's hard for people to become superstars.Whereas like I look at my childhood.It's like all the rappers that I can remember were big names because they all like you just wouldn't know about a rapper unless they had millions of dollars being pumped into it.Yeah.
45:28Yeah.But that comes back to like us living in this viral age.But like you, you really, the labels is damn near like,you got everything you need, like, motherfucker of you.If you're really talented, you can really put out good music.You got, you got platforms that you can put your shit on.You can build a fan base yourself.Like, at this point, they're looking for you to do all the groundwork.
45:53So, like, by the time you've really made a name for yourself,then they're kind of like, all right, let's see, let's work together.Definitely.So your best songs are like, are they all like 100% you or do you ever get any kind of assistance in the studio?Or do you just punch in or you write before you go in there?No, I just like the process used to be I'd write like because like the way that my studio time was scarce.Exactly.Exactly.
46:19So I had to be able to go in there and do what I had to do.Like it was also like I was working in 9 to 5.So like I couldn't go to studio until Saturday or Sunday depending on how it wasn't, especially after my little boy.So Monday through Friday, I'm at work.I'm either writing while I'm at work.I'm trying to find a beat.I might not find a beat to like Wednesday for that week.And then, like, really, like, you're locking with a producer.
46:39Actually, get a beat done.And then, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, I might be writing every.I might, let's say, like, I might have seven days to do one song.But then I got to a point, like, my writing process got a little bit quicker.And I could do, I could have four or five songs ready about time.I got to studio.And that shit, you know, you get to studio one to take everything.And it's like, okay.
47:00I actually made use of this two hours in the studio I had to pay for out of my pocket.Rather than I just go into the studio and be like, I'm going to punch in.And then I'd do two hours and leave with half a fucking song or one song.Yeah, yeah.Definitely.You got to make your money stretch when you're at that stage in the career.For sure, though.Especially like, like I said, it was real 9 to 5 shit.
47:23Like I was really like balancing my bill money with the money that I was using for my kidfor how the fuck my phone goes to the studioso it really had to stretchnah facts umso like how how quick would you sayit takes you to make a song on averageoh shit man I ain't gonna let to youwe're getting to the point where like
47:42I'm really figuring out that punchin and shitnow because likeI tell people all the timeit's kind of like getting to the leaguelike whenever you up here's like okay it's time to performlike this is what you want you want the moneyand uh kind of likeI've been throwing situations with like I told you
47:57know I used I sometimes have five sixdays do one song.Yeah.These folksthrow you in a roomwith 20, 30 people,cut a beat onand be like,
48:04hey, make a song.Yeah.And so I've kind of had to adjustto that,but my punching in the processis getting pretty nice.I'm getting to like,if I'm in a good mode,
48:14like,45 minutes to an hour for like,but like I'm also likeextremely hard on myself.Some rappers would be like,I go in there and I can do a song,I can punch in a song15, 20 minutes.
48:26And be like,I'm so,I beat myself up so much.They'll have to come in there and tell me,like, exactly what you're saying.It's hard as, fuck, just leave it alone.Right.And I'd be like, no, I think I can do it a different way.
48:36Yeah, do you have to, like, intentionally switch up your flowin order to kind of make your song sound different,or does that kind of thing just sort of come naturally?Sometimes, like, sometimes I'd be, well, once again,bro, my biggest critics.I'd be like, you got to switch, you got to switch.And then that type, they'd be like, brother,what did you was just vibe and, like, just natural
48:53on that motherfuck is exactly how you need to do it.Yeah.So it's definitely like, I've always had that, like,sense and like feeling whenever it comes to music.Just like, okay, like, I've always told people,I feel like I have a pretty goodwhen it comes to music as far as like,what sounds good and what don't.
49:07For sure.What's the craziest rapper that's shown upin your DMs, rapper, celebrity, whatever?Man, it's been a couple folks.I've been like, hey, I'm, my boy, Prushahas been pretty tight, man lately.Yeah, yeah.Shout out to Atlanta, bro.
49:22I've been around TI.You know, I've Lucci, showed a lot of love.So it's a lot of real, you know, big names.It's like, especially like folks that I looked up to, you know,or listen to when I was younger.So it's just pretty fucking crazy.Is any of them have like words of wisdom for youor kind of let you know what they think you should be doing?
49:41I mean, yeah, definitely everybody I talked to has been like,everything's been real genuine, bro.Like, like, from like Lucha giving me advice,and like, you know, brother, like, just performingand like you're gonna get used to thisto like T.I.Give me real, like, life advice,like mental health advice and business advice
49:57And motherfuck is telling me like, bro, like,I've been doing this shit for this longand I've worked with this many people like,bro, you hard as hell.Just to hear shit like that is like really,hell yeah, it's just really make you feel like,okay, this is what I'm supposed to be doing?When you put out that project,
50:11is there going to be any features on it?Yeah, I probably go one or two.Oh, yeah?We're trying to go porch house sandwich remix.Oh, yeah.We're trying to get it locked downon which way we're going to go.You're being tight-lipped about who's going to be on the project?
50:24Probably me and me and my boy,T.I. It's probably definitely going to have one on that.That's a big look.That'd be my shit. Yeah, that's a big,the biggest feature.As soon as you said Poochishty, though, too, I was like,man, that'd be fucked up to hear you on a song with him.That could be crazy.
50:38I just did the FDO.Oh, you did your remix?Yeah, like, two days or yesterday.Right, right as soon as we landed here in California.Yeah.I mean, I feel like that's actually kind of crazy.That's, like, seeming like it's going to be one of the biggestfirst day out songs ever.
50:52I do not.Yeah.Me and my whole world talking about this shit all the time.And it's like, people give me head.like, Portchop Sandwich was the biggest song to end of year.I'd be like, nah, that boy Shice has dropped and kind of fuck it up.And like, we said, man, like, people have such short attention spans right now.Yeah.
51:07For him to go five minutes, it's like...And I'm not going to lie.I was kind of hating on the length of the song to one of my homies at first.I was like, man, it's too long.Like, he should have came with like two minutes.And then, like, when I find myself listening to the whole thing and still noticing more bars,I'm like, he knew something with that.Yeah, yeah.
51:24It's like, for some reason, that makes it stand out.Way more.Like, he really did five minutes and, like, motherfuckers will play the whole five minutes in the club.Yeah.You standing on it, rapping the hole or something.Yeah, no, my boy did your thing.There's so many bars that you just kind of need to think about.That shit's crazy.
51:37Yeah, he's the last of a dime breed, man.There's not as many dudes like him, man.Yeah, that's, yeah, we're ass off the brook.That's shit crazy.Yeah, no effects.Okay, so, yeah, I guess, I don't know.Like, where do you feel like you're going from here?Like, what's the plan?
51:54Like, you got, what kind of stuff are you focused on?Just making more?music or just doing promotional shit at this point?Or what's the plan?I mean, to be real with you, bro, I'm just, I'm just blessed and happy to be here.Yeah.I'm just kind of, you know, like going with the punches.I'm up to two pretty hot singles right now.
52:10I'm two for two.I'm striking it.And I really want to perfect this project.Folks is on my ass.Like, go ahead and drop, go ahead and drop.Yeah.And I'm ready.I'd be on my team's ass and the labels I ask about like, how quick can we get this done?
52:25And but everybody's stressing to me like, you know, you get to drop your first project one time.Yeah.I'm really trying to keep that into mind.And I really wanted to be a body of work that whenever I presented it not only represents me well, but it represents all the work that I've been putting in there.For sure.Yeah.I mean, you definitely have like a, and it was weird because I would have kind of guess this just from like seeing you in the videos and stuff.But like you have like a very like cool, chill personality that I feel like people are going to really want to with you and get behind you.
52:51Just like real humble and low key, you know.Yeah, that's the man.I just try to be.You know, bro, I'm big on, I'm big on morals and respect.I'm like, you know what I mean?I treat the motherfucker just how they're going to treat me.And like I just, man, like I said, but I'm just blessed to be here.Like I told you, I was just working my ass off 50, 60 hours a week for $600.
53:09So like to be sitting here doing shit like, it's crazy.Nah, no, for sure.I feel like, you know, it's going to be a big year for you for sure.And I'm excited to see how it goes.Yes, sir, yes, sir.Yeah, yeah, man.All right, anybody you want to shout out?Anybody, anything you want to put out there to manifest?
53:25to the universe.Hey man, I just want, you know, continue to say shout out to my team, shout out to God,first and foremost for the opportunity, all the blessings, my kid, my family, my, my pops,my hood, my, man, shit, free little D, free scarl, free I, free J.B, they know I'm on the sameshit, bro.I don't, ain't too much else going on.Michelle, man.No, it was great getting to talk, and I'm fully behind you, whatever you need, just let
53:48me know.I feel like, you know, it's going to be a big year, and I feel like, you know, rap needs moreshit that's going to spice shit up, and I feel like you definitely seem like you couldbe a force. We're going to try to shake some shit up for sure.The show. Jay. I appreciate it. I appreciate you all for real.Thank you. Jay Wick, make sure you tap in on Instagram, YouTube, etc. All social media.This guy's going places. No-jum or coolest podcast on world. Like, comment and subscribe.We out.
54:13Yeah, sir.
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