No Jumper - Jazz Anderson on Being Tami Roman’s Daughter, Coi Leray Beef, Kicked off VH1 & More

Episode Date: September 8, 2022

Jazz Anderson talks about her upbringing, following the footsteps of her dad who was never around, celebrating her mom for always being there for her, and more. ------ 00:00 Intro 0:45 Jazz is super honored to be here, she grew up in LA that's a big deal for her 2:05 Jazz says she's mostly known from Basketball Wives with her mom Tami Roman 3:22 Jazz never experienced rac*sm until she went to an HBCU college 4:50 T-Rell says he never experienced rac*sm either 6:16 Jazz' dad was NEVER in the picture, he never reached out 9:40 Jazz got injured and the team dropped her because she was recovering too slow 10:39 S/O Mom and the hard-working single moms 11:39 She was inspired by Jay Electronica, and Lauryn Hill to rap 18:13 Jazz has girls fighting over her 27:14 Rick Ross told her her image was off when she started 28:57 Jazz says she would never get work done until she did 33:15 Quick viral beef with Coi Leray, Coi Leray apologized 38:11 Being eliminated from Signed (VH1), says she needed the constructive criticism to grow 42:16 Jazz was a fan of T-Rell when he was back at Last Kings, says it was a staple back then ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper, man. It's T-Rill, and I'm here with my girl, man, Jazz Anderson. One time, man. Why are you laughing? I know why her ass is laughing. She just spilled water all on this motherfucker. We probably wouldn't even go get through the last day. She is my last interview.

You didn't spill water. But shout out to Boston over business like that. But shout out to Boston over. Shout out to Kelvin. Shout out to Laura. I didn't even panic, do nothing. I was like, hopefully she don't break that. But we got another one just to replace that bitch.

I'm telling you here, like, it gets crazy. Like, it get crazy. But what's up, man? What's up, man? Man, I'm excited to be here. Like, let me just tell you, I grew up in L.A. Yeah. So this is, like, big for me.

You even sitting here with you. This is big? I don't think you know that. Yeah. Because I'd be telling people, like, I went to Beverly Hills High, but I was never there. I was in Engwood. You know what I was saying? Compton.

Boyle up. Yeah. Yeah. You could say that. So, yeah. I wanted, you know, some female rappers to come on, you know, I'd express that. You know, I had my home girl come on here. And, you know, nobody else, nobody else reached out.

And then, no, I ain't even going to lie. Like, I don't give a damn if your mama hit me or not. Like, I was, if you hit me, I was saying, yeah, regardless. Because I just wanted some girls to come on. Then, you know, I started doing, you know, doing my research before I even said, yeah, I was already honest. Okay, okay, good. Let me see what she got going on.

Let me see what it do, you feel me? But, yeah, I'm glad to have you on, too, man. I'm honored to be here. Damn, that's tight, man. So for the no jumper fans, you know, we got to get it right, you know, get it right into it because they don't know you, so we got to make them familiar with you, you feel me, even though you think you're famous. Oh, God.

To these things They're dead on those shit Yeah like who Who is the fuck is that So you know We got to start from the beginning You know You know where you grew up

Well Beverly Hills My whole life pretty much Most people know me From being on basketball Wives with my mom So Yeah

I was doing basketball Wives But then I also loved basketball So I ended up moving From California to Texas Because I had I played college ball.

But who is moms? Oh, Tammy Roman from basketball wise. Okay, yeah. So that's my mom. Let's get that out the way. Yeah, that's my mom. So, yeah, I moved to Texas, but pretty much it's like I'm an L.A. girl at heart. And most people know me from reality TV, but I do rap, as you said.

So from being born to, like, high school, you lived in Beverly Hills. Well, I was in Calabasasas first. Then. Oh, you're bawling. Yeah, I was in Calabasas. Then we went to New York for a bit. I lived in the Bronx for like two years. And then Beverly Hills and then Texas.

Then back to Beverly Hills. How was that, you know, being a California girl, like living that life, you know, because my girl from Texas, like. Oh, okay. So to actually have a young black woman just actually living in Beverly Hills and Calabasas since you grew up, like, how was that? You know, I always tell this story because it's so crazy for me. Like, I played basketball at Beverly Hills High as well.

I was popular things like that. And I always tell people before I went to an HBCU, I'm going to get killed for this, but I didn't experience racism. Like I felt like I was one of them. And it was crazy. I had to go to an HBCU to really learn about my culture and know who I was. So that's why I'm so thankful for that opportunity. But when you asked me like, how did it feel?

I felt like I didn't, I'm not black. I'm OJ. Like that's honestly how I felt growing up. And I had to get humbled and, you know, realize, you don't know you black. Oh, so you was carrying your seat. stuff like that. Like, you know, but not like that. I'm not going to say I was pretentious and arrogant because my mom didn't instill those

values in me, but worldly things that black people went through, I didn't really go through it. Yeah. I wasn't, I didn't feel stereotyped, none of that. Like, and I feel like they always felt I belonged because my mom was on TV. My dad is a ex- NBA player, all-stars. So for them, it was like, you deserve, you can sit with us, you know, so I had to go to a HBCU to really experience being stereotyped, racism, things like that, because my

HBCU was in Waller, Texas, which is like country. Yeah, so outside of the college, it was just like a different story for you where you had to, you know, experience some of those things. Exactly. And I kind of got a little bit of it when I went to the Bronx, but it was so cultural there that it was kind of like I was groovy. Like I felt like I belonged there too. You know what I'm saying?

But yeah, when I went to Texas, that's what I'm going to. You know what? I ain't even going to lie to you. Like maybe it's just a California like West Coast. thing because I have never experienced racism. See? And I'm from the girl. Oh my gosh. Thank you.

People look at me like I'm crazy when I say that. Like I've never experienced nobody giving me the N-word. Right. The hard, ER. I don't know what the fuck that is. Like, if a nigga ever had come up to me and tell me some shit like that, I probably like, sit there. Wow.

Right. Like, I wouldn't know how to react to it. So, like, I don't even think it's just a Beverly Hills, Calabasasasas. I think just, niggas is just cold out here. Maybe. You feel me? Yeah. Yeah, niggins are just cool out here.

So, yeah, so you went to New York, you said? You dropped to New York. I lived in the Bronx for two years. Damn, how was that? It was a culture shock for me because you take me out of Calabasas, throw me in the Bronx. I'm like, I got to take the train and the bus. And these people are crazy. Like, that's how I'm looking at it.

But, you know, after the first year, I loved it. Like, it grew up me. And that was high school or college days? That was high school. I think I was in, like, that was like eighth grade. Eighth grade, yeah. Damn, I went to New York and I just like, get me the fuck out of it. Yeah, it was very fast-paced.

Now, that it is, I was kind of like, oh, my gosh. Everybody walking, you know what I'm saying? You might have to take your train. Tax you don't want to fuck with you. You know, where we from? We're like, well, fuck it then. You don't want to fuck with it. We ain't even going to bother with you then.

We'll fuck it. You know what I'm saying? That's true. But, you know, moms being famous. Dad being a basketball star, like, like, damn, like, take me through some of that, like, being a kid, you know, and, you know, going to school. Like, did they, did they act?

Well, you said they didn't treat you different. But, like, how did you feel? Like, did you have, like, a weight on your shoulder to feel like, man, I got to walk in these footsteps, too? No, I only did when I played basketball. Because, like, when I'm meeting with certain teams, they're like, okay, your dad was a point guard. We want you to feel this role. And are you left-handed like him? Things like that.

But with my mom, no. No. No. Was dad in your life? No. Oh, he wasn't in your life? No. He wasn't in your life.

No, that's what made it more awkward is like, I can't follow in somebody's footsteps and shadows who's not even around. Around. So he wasn't around like at all? No. Maybe text me on my birthday, you know, every now and then. Do you have a relationship with him now? No.

No. Oh, we ain't fucking with you. See, I was a Laker fan anyway, nigga. I'm trying to give you the benefit of that, nigga. Oh, no. You know, now that I'm 26, like, yeah. I'm 26 now, so I don't bash him. But I think we're just at the point where it's like,

it's not going to be repaired, so let's just leave it where it's at. I feel like you missed things that I needed you for. You know what I'm saying? So to me, it's like, well, what do I need you now? My mom did a great job, so I'm cool. I mean, you come from that blood line, too. So it's already in your blood, like, to make it. Like, it's there for you.

But it's just like I still need that extra support system. Exactly. You know, like my family and my, you know, they athletic. my mom side, my dad's side, you know, athletic or whatever the case may be. Same shit, you feel like, it's destined for me, but you wasn't there, though. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, I need some type of support system, you know, but as I get older, people like,

well, let it go. And I'm like, well, bitch, I don't want to let it go. That's me. Yeah, that's me. You're going to tell him. Yeah. Like, so I don't know. It's just like, how do you repair that?

Like, and will you ever, you know, like. You know, there was, he had a stroke like two years ago. And that was when I put my pride to the side and I reached out to him. But after that, we didn't talk. We don't talk now. So you didn't ever go to any basketball games. Oh, when I was like a kid. When I was young, young, young, like two, three.

So when you went to college and you played for age, what college did you go to? Prayer View, A&M. Prayerview. So he never came. Oh, no. No games. No nothing. Not at all.

But he wasn't doing that when I was in high school So it's kind of just something I get used to Like my mom was always my biggest supporter and fan So I was cool with it So you know doing that Like how do you feel That your name is like Damn near as big as he is down

And you haven't even like Reach like your height You know what I'm saying Your pinnacle like And it's just like almost there like Well you know I do like I don't want this seems so cliche but like anybody who's ever doubted me or wasn't there for me or things like that that's why

I do go so hard you know and it's not to throw it in their face like ha told you so but it's just for me to be like I didn't need you to get on the BET Cipher I didn't need you to go D1 basketball I didn't need you you know what I'm saying so you know so with basketball what happened why did it oh I got um injured so I had a high ankle sprain and um I have been getting injured since high school though so I think my ankle just gave out I was on uh wheelchair then I went to crutches and then they actually dropped me from the team what women's basketball is like they dropped me they said I was recovering too slow they called me into the office I'll never forget that and they just looked at me and was like yeah you're out the team like how did

that make you feel like I was depressed I was so depressed like I dropped out of college actually so I have one more year left but I ended up dropping out because they say sports players they they all into it and then yeah force is over. That's how I felt. I was like, I've been doing this my whole life. And like, wow. Like, here I am at 22, 23.

I was somewhere in there. And, like, you just basically going to look at me and be like, well, we don't need you no more. Like, we're going to discard of you. That's how I felt. So who was there? Who was your crutch, your mom? My mom. Yeah.

It's always been her. Damn, man. So mom's been there. Shout out moms. Yeah, shout out to my mom. Shout out to my mom. Shout out all the single mothers out there that's doing that thing. Fact.

Because that is like a really hard thing to do. It is. And I think what made it so different for me is my mom was showing that struggle on TV. Like when she was on basketball wives, she was one of the, I think probably the first person to be able to say, I'm on food stamps. My ex-husband don't do shit. He don't pay child support. He don't do nothing. I'm a food stamp, EBT, things like that.

Nobody had seen it. So me growing up, I think that's why I have such tough skin now because when I was young, it was like you can't really make me feel no way about it. this is my life, this is what we're going through right now, you know, and then it's like, here we are now. That was the little Bronx stint, if you don't. I don't know. I was about to say, how to fuck with y'all. No, yeah, that's why I had to clear that up real quick.

So, yeah. I mean, playing basketball, I mean, well, being a rapper now, but playing basketball, like, was that the career path that your mom, like, had for you? Because I know, like, you know, music. I know the first transitions into music, no parent believes in it. That's true, though. They fucking really don't believe in this shit.

So, like, what career path does she see for you? She saw basketball, but at the same time, we had to be realistic that it's like a glass ceiling. When it comes to women, like now I feel like they're trying to give more credit to the women's basketball, but even still, we're never going to get paid as much as the guys.

I don't see it. So it's like some of those, women are making what you can make at a good salary job, nine to five. So for me, it was like, I have to figure out something else. Anyway, when I saw I got injured, I was like, I'm done with it. Even if I recover, I'm not going to another college, none of that. Like, I'm done. And your something else was right?

Yes. Like, were you always like a musical person? That's what I was going to say, yeah, I was. So for me, I remember I was like maybe like 10, 11, and I heard Jay Electronica Exhibit C. And I was like, I want to do that. And then I was listening to Lauren Hill. So I was like, she make it like, we could do it. And then around the same time, Nikki, well, not the same time.

But then as I got older, Nikki Minaj had dropped beaming up Scotty. This was like, MySpace Days. And I was like, I can do that. Because, like, I was listening to Lauren Hill, but she wasn't around. So I was like, I don't see no women out here. And when Nikki showed like, you could do this, I was like, I want to do it. I want to do it. That's tight, man.

Yeah. I mean, to have that. I mean, you know, when I was younger too, I had my musical influences. Like, and I, I, I felt like I wanted to be a fighter fighter. Right? Yeah, but, and then, but I'm listening to Snoop Dog at the same time. I'm like, these nis and these niggins talk about gin and juice. Yeah.

It looks fun. You know what I'm saying? The firefighter, these niggas over here working. You know, maybe. You never went through a rap stage, like a phase? I went through a rap phase. I definitely went through a rap phase, and I stopped the rap phase. Not on, well, I'm going to tell you why I stopped the rap phase.

I stopped the rap phase because that shit was. as expensive as fuck yeah i ain't gonna lie you have to be super dedicated you have to dedicate your whole life and everything to this shit like you got to sacrifice everything for music and i and i felt like i think i started too late to be doing that shit you know what i'm saying i got kids now already shit i was like i ain't i ain't fully in it if i'm fully in it i mean i can kick it with y'all stay with y'all it's like studio all the time and you got a really dedicated yourself to that shit and this video

yes it's supposed to yeah photographers like it's a whole team that got to be around you you know like it's a whole team and then like on top of that like the industry the industry will eat your ass up

it will like it'll eat you up chew you up spit you back out and these motherfuckers are scandalous out here they are they are tremendously scandals you know what I'm saying but I know with your mama you know in a relationship

everybody having everybody putting that on you, but I know people are still like trying to step on you and push you out the way and do all of that shit. Because to them it's like, that's Tammy daughter, you know? So when I did the Beatty Cypher in 2019, that's when I saw like, people was really saying, oh, that's Jazz Anderson. But I had been doing music before the Cypher for like four years.

People saw me rap on TV when I was on signed on VH1 with Rick Ross and Lenny Santiago, but it was like they still put me in that Tammy daughter, riding her coat tell. So then when I did The cipher, it was like, oh, okay, B.T. recognized her? Okay, she do this. Yeah, but still, though, like, how the fuck that make you feel? You got to sit in.

And it's like, damn, I got to be in her. These, they shadow, they don't even rap. Right, exactly. That's what's so crazy. We're in two different fields, but, you know, she's, I think she's legendary. Like, when it comes to reality TV being a pioneer for it, so people are automatically going to be like, well, what is your daughter going to do? What is she, like, how is she going to live up to what you did?

But I don't feel the way. mom always just tells me just stay true to yourself and stay on your path. And that's what I've been doing and it's been working. Stay on your path for sure. Yeah. But it has to be like kind of fucked up like, bro, I'm rapping. Like I don't, I'm not doing that. Yeah, it was.

But now I'm at the point where I just don't give a fuck. Like I'm like, I rap. People know I'm cold now. So I'm like, I just got to keep putting in the work. Does social media ever like bother you like at any point at your life? You know, like when you was younger. Because I know when I was younger. I know the comments is crazy.

The comments are crazy. But when I was younger, when she was on basketball wives, and that was such a crazy time because everything she did, people don't realize, like, everything, like, when you're on TV, it affects everybody around you, you know? So me and my sister had to deal with a lot of that. But, yeah, I would, like, deactivate my Twitter, Facebook at the time, but now I don't care.

And I'm happy for that because it showed me, like, how many people just want a response anyway? Yeah, they do. So now I just don't respond. Well, with social media now, like, you know, and with your mom, like, what she'd be doing, like, the ridicule that she be facing and shit and the shit that she be going through, like, how does that shit make you feel now? Like, what's the conversations in the house to get over that shit?

Because I know, like, it has to be a certain, like, way to maneuver out of it. And you've got to tell certain family members, like, hold down. Because everybody ain't like you because. That is so true. Yeah, it's like certain things is by offering to kill somebody. Yes. Yes. That's so true, yeah.

I know. At her, she felt like, hold on. Yeah, she is like that. Like, with me and my sister, like, don't respond to that. You know, she just takes it all to the chin, really, you know. So, you know, she's such a strong-minded individual, and I think that's why I am the way I am. So now we're at the point where nothing can really phase us.

Like, even when I'm on the blogs for something, I'm like, I don't care. Who cares? So how many assemblies do you have? I have one. Just a sister? Younger or older? She's older. Older?

Yeah, she's in law school. Oh, so she's going to be a lawyer. Yeah, we're like, it's so funny because we're like two totally different people. Like, I'm the rapper with the tattoos. And she's the lawyer who's like chill and smart. Yeah. You also the sister that's on social media. Right.

Going crazy. You know what I'm saying? So let's go. Hold on. You know what I'm saying? Let me sit up. You're going to go ahead, you know what I'm saying? You also, you know what I'm saying?

Girlfriends fighting over here. I'm like, hold on. I'm in, I think I'm in some cool shit. I was going to talk about some shit and rap shit. Maybe we can talk about some family shit, but I'm tapping into this. I'm like, how you put that in there. Yeah, let's go ahead and talk about. I'm like, you're a player.

No. No, we're not about to do that. You're a real player out here. You know what I'm saying? And you got these young ladies out here. looking crazy on the ground. Like, I'm like, I'm like, get the fuck up.

But I'm going to ask jazz. I'm like, what happened? Like, what did you tell them for them to take it upon their themselves to go out there by themselves without you? First time, I was out there. You was out there? Oh, my God. No, you are too funny.

Oh, my God. God. You was gashing us up too much. No, no, hold on. So you, so you, so you, so who, who I deal was it to pull up? No, we're going to pull up, look, we're going to pull up right here. Oh my God. We're going to pull up.

You hop out. No, you hop out. I can't be really seen like that. Do your thing, do your thing. Because we were talking about it at the house. Do your thing, do your thing. Come on. They were going, one of them is my girlfriend.

So, yeah, they were going back and forth on social media. So it was one of those things of like my ex. It was my ex. Called my new girlfriend's fade. Did she put it off? To make sure. I went to make sure nobody jumped in. Oh, because you was ready.

Yes. So in the video, people say, why jazz not doing nothing? But my girl told me, man, I got, I'm from Dallas, Texas. Like, let me get my one in. But if somebody tried to jump me, then. You jump in. Right. And you was ready.

Oh, I was right. You probably didn't know it's because I had the hoodie up. Oh my God. I had my hoodie up. So when your mama's seeing this shit, she's like, you know what? You had to explain to her like, mama, this is a part of rapping and shit. I'm a rapper. No.

This was happening. This shit gets dangerous out here. What the fuck are you doing? It was so embarrassed. I was shooting a music video and she texted me and said, W-T-F. And I knew what it was for. I was like, hey, you guys, I have to step away real quick. And I called her and I broke everything down.

She was like, come on, jazz. What that conversation was like, please tell me. It was crazy because she wasn't as mad as I thought she would be. And that's what kind of threw me off. But I think once I explained it, and she really likes my new girlfriend. So to her, it was just like, y'all don't need to be fighting. And she was like, it had already been brewing. Their beef had been brewing.

Yeah. So my mom told my girlfriend then, don't fight. Like, just leave it alone. Boom. But I was like, something was said and once that was said I couldn't even stop her. Yeah. I'm like, I'm asking about this shit is crazy.

This is too spicy for me. Don't even worry about it. But, you know, coming out as bisexual, did you feel like, you know what? I'm going to come out and express myself and I'm feeling like, you know, and have, you know, teach these other girls that you could be bold and strong and believe in yourself and you don't got to hide this shit from nobody just be who you are right yeah at first i was very nervous because i was like where does that put me in the rap game because you only have a certain type of female rapper you either have your sex kitten you got like gay like young

a way or it's kind of like a lyrical miracle so i was like well how are people going to see me image wise so that's what i was more so worried about but you know i was like i'm on a talk show on fox soul called the mix and i was like you know i was like you're going to talk show on foxhole called the mix and i was like, you know what? There were things brewing behind the scenes and I was like, I don't want nobody to ever tell my story for me. So that's when I was just like, I have to do it. But I was 24. So I was like,

I think it's a good time anyway. Did moms are and, you know, know about it already? Yeah, she already knew and that's why I wasn't, I didn't really feel no way because I always said, I just have to answer to God, the mirror and my mom. Yeah, so how did mom feel about that? She was hurt. She was very hurt. She cried. She was like, I'm not going to have,

get kids. The, the way. wedding like it was like so dramatic yeah um she felt like she misguided me or let me down you know then it was the talk of if your dad was there would this have been would you still you know be bisexual so it was all that that i had to tell her it's not your fault yeah it's it's my life and that's who i am i feel like you shouldn't be disappointed as a parent now she's not though yeah but at first because they're kind of little old school maybe mentality but i feel like you know now being younger, you know, in this generation, you should be accepting, you know, of this, of what's going on.

Right. Because my daughter is 12 years old, and she said that shit. Really? Yeah, she said it. But, and I, and her mom, you know, oh, you know, fin to go crazy. That was my mom. Yeah. But she had dad there, which is me, you know, and I'm very supportive.

I'm going on with my daughter. So I'm looking at my daughter. I mean, you know, I weighed on it a little bit before I went over there. I had to think about what I was from the same. what else for the do because you just can't get over there and just scold you for something like that's like in you. Right. I didn't, you know. Yeah, because some kids were like see it early.

I didn't until I was like 19. Yeah. 18, 19 when I went to college. Then, you know. Oh, okay. Yeah, I had to pull up on my daughter. I'm like, we ain't doing none of that. Right.

Yeah. You can like who you want. You can like who you want. I don't give a fuck, but we ain't doing that. Right. That's my only little conversation. you with it. I'm like, just be cool. You can do whatever you want. Dad is accepting

whatever you got going on. Like, cool. That's awesome. I wish my dad with, my dad sees me on the blogs about my relationship about it. He still hasn't reached out about even my sexuality. Nothing. No. That has to bother you. It does.

But I'm like, what can you, you can't change somebody. And one thing that does bother me about that and not having my dad there like that is because I had kids. Right. And my dad and my kids like, man, where are your dad? daddy. And they're like, what do he look like? Where is he at?

And then I'm like, what do I tell him? Is he dead? Right. Or do I tell him like, no, he's just over there. Like, he just don't fuck with me. Or like, how do you tell a four-year-old, five-year-old? Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, that's tough.

Like, that's tough on me. Like, you put me in a fucked up situation. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? And you're making me go back and go. Now you're making me hate you moat. Right. You know what I'm saying?

It's just like, you can't be. doing your fucking kids like that, man. You can't do that shit. So, you know, relationship-wise, you in your music, I'm listening to your music now. I'm here. Since yesterday, I'm running all the way up here

off your recent tape. But it's just a whole bunch of, you know, the dick, the, you know what I'm saying? Let me explain that. So that's why we called it the experiment, because for me I had dropped my other project separation anxiety, which was me like getting away from TV world and people seeing me like that and people having separation anxiety because they want to

see me in one way. That's the Tammy's daughter. So that was that project. I feel like it didn't get much love like that. So my team was like, well, let's do something called the experiment where it's like, well, this is what y'all listening to. This is what y'all like. So let's do an experiment and give y'all all them type of records. So if you notice we got the skits in there and stuff because basically at the beginning, they're basically building a female rapper. So then it goes into those type of records because. But then at the end of the project on Deep Soul,

it's like, I don't want to do this shit, basically. If I have to, you know, talk about all this to make it, I want to do it. Man, you got bar, so I'm going to go to this song. Okay. That I really like, let me see where this motherfucker at. This shit really bang. I'm like, hold on.

She might have to resurface this bitch and go back. It's called Wompsum. A Wantsome. I want some. That shit. Thank you. Yeah. That's the one.

Yeah. That's a one. A lot of people like that one. But that was definitely out of my comfort zone. It was? That's good. Yeah. Get back in that zone.

Okay. I bet. Yeah. Get back in that zone. That shit was hard. That shit is hard. And I'm like, hold on. You are lyrical, though.

You are a lyrical. Thank you. Yeah, you are a lyrical. But, you know, people don't want to be overwhelmed with that. So that's why, like, I kind of had to, and it took me a while to understand that because it's so crazy. like my whole career like when I sat down with Ross he said you're so dope but your image is off and I needed that like I needed someone because I didn't have a team like that to tell me like you can't do whatever you want to do as artists so I needed Lenny Santiago and Ross to tell me like you're

dope but you're not going to pop because your images off it you don't want to listen to nobody you think you know everything so then when I take that advice and then it's like people telling me you don't have to overwhelm people with bars like sometimes we just want to vibe out so that's with that project I was Like, let me just chill a bit and, like, just give them some vibes. Yeah, give me some vibes. I don't want to hear Eminem now. Right. I'm not like that.

I want to go future. You know what I'm saying? Right. We need that. I want some. You know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah, I want that. But as a female rapper and image with the image thing, like, damn, like, where do you see yourself back?

Because I feel like it is one track with females. Like, you have to be sexy. Like, you got to. have ass. It was like, at one point it was just like BBL or nothing. Yes. Bebele or die like for real. Yeah. It's just like, for real. It's like ass and hips. It's like what do you do? Like so I know that's kind of like discouraging like for some female rappers because I mean they do have like you. Like you got bars like it's like aspect. I think there could be a happy medium like I think Tiana Taylor does that so well. She's so dope, so fly comfortable with her skin but can still give you sexy. So I feel like

there just has to be, I'm trying to think of who else, like female rapper wise. I think Lekea does a great job at that, you know, so it's just like they, they're paying more attention to us. Now, I feel like they're not expecting us to over-sell sex as much. Over-sale sex, yeah. But I was surprised at myself because I ended up on the surgery table. And I had always said, I'll never get work done. What the fuck did you get done? What?

I got, okay, I got, what is it called, Lipo 360 and abs. I went to Dr. Curves in Atlanta. I knew he was going to laugh. Hey, man, you know what? Give me the ass, man. I need the six-pack. I'm tired of this shit. First off, it's not a six-pack.

It's womanly, but I was like, I need something to, like, give me some curves. Yeah, something, because I was, like, straight down. So he kind of scoped him. You can't, I'm hoodie, but, you know, he did a great job. So you was boxy. I was boxy. And you felt like I needed a little. Yeah, and even it was like, do you want to get a,

Skinny BBL. I was like, no, I don't want anything in my ass, nothing. I just want you to give me some shape. Yeah. A little bit with what I already got. Was that for the music aspect of it or just because you're the clothes and the way was, you know, you was fitted? It was becoming an insecurity.

And then when, like, when the pandemic first hit, I was just in the house, drinking, having fun parties. And I got a gut. It was crazy. Like, I had a gut. And I was like, I can't walk around like this. So you said, fuck working out. No, I did work out.

And I wasn't seeing the result. I don't be in the gym like every day. I mean, because we can't go to Cheesecake Factory and then go to 24-hour fitness and then expect the results. That was my problem. You definitely got to eat right. Exactly. My eating habits. And then when I would go out with friends, oh, give me a shot.

I'm like, that's carbs right there. Yeah. So, yeah, I just was like, just suck this out. Take it out. I mean, and then you do have to call your support system again and tell her, look, mom going to go. And that's what she said. She was like, you know. You have been working out, and I understand you've talked about this for a while.

If you didn't see the results, boom, boom. So she was like, I'll back you. You can do it. I definitely agree with surgery with women. I'm not even going to lie as far as secure. Like, if you insecure, you know, whatever that makes you feel happy, you know, then put you in that happy place. I definitely agree with a surgery.

I'm not even going to lie. I mean, people can downplay, oh, the surgery. But, like, nah, like, most women, like, I ain't going to say most women, but some women, like, really need that shit. You know what I'm saying? Everybody ain't got good jeans like to, no, you know what I'm saying? Like, everybody ain't got the, you know, like, they can be working out crazy. Like, it's not going to show, bro.

Like some people just need that. Just a little nip and tuck, but you don't want to do the nip and tuck because you got her behind. hate know you. Right. She wants the nip and tuck, too. She don't want you to get it. You feel I mean? You got somebody in your ear.

Now you ain't doing it. Like, now you got two insecurities because you don't want everybody to know what's going on. Right. And say the shit fake. You fake. You fake. But whatever. Yeah, that's not the point.

I was at. I was like, whatever. I don't care. I did a whole video with him to let people know I'm going to get the surgeries. And I got hit in the comments. Oh, my God. You said you would never. You were supposed to be the female rapper that had the natural body.

They let me up. I was like, oh my gosh, you guys. I hope Lakeia don't do that shit because she bought this fucking big and Lekeye don't do that shit, bro, because they're going to get on YouTube, but fuck it. You know, it's all good.

Yeah, you got to do it makes you happy. So that's at the point I'm at. Yeah, you definitely got to do what makes you happy, man. So, yeah, again, you be on the internet. Yes. Going crazy. Oh, God.

What's you about to hit me with now? I just want to ask you. you, you know, your mom is big. Your mom is big. You know, anything she does say or, you know, comment on on the internet, people might take offense to it or whatever. And they feel like they got to, you know, get in there and say extra shit. You feel I mean?

So I wonder, you know, like with the, with the caller rate incident. I was like, oh, where are he segwaying this? Okay. That was a good intro. That was a nice little segue. Yeah. With the Quorae incident, did you feel like you needed to do that? Like, you know, you know what?

I need some cloud on my name, you know, or did you really want to just defend your mom? Because you defended your mom music-wise. Right. So for me, when people were saying the cloud thing, I want people to understand something. And this is going to come off maybe a little arrogant, but I was on TV since I was 14 years old. The last time I was on TV was I was 23, 24. She probably knew me before I knew of her. And I'm just keep it like that.

So with me, we're rappers. So I'm not, I don't, I've never met the girl. I don't hate her. But I was like, you being very disrespectful to somebody to an elder at the end of the day. Nobody's talking about your dad. None of that. I felt like maybe she misunderstood the comment. But then it's like, apologize.

And you have to apologize publicly because you did it publicly. So for me, when I saw that wasn't happening and she was still talking, I said, okay, well, let's be rappers. I didn't need the cloud or anything. I did that in my room. I have a whole studio in my room. I did that in an hour. Man, well, me, I'm like, she's very strategic because I feel like she can't fuck with her,

like, lyrically. So it's just like, if you get on the track, you're done. And I was like, I know she wanted to get on the track. So I'm listening. I'm looking in this shit, too. I'm like, she really never got on the track. It's like, she want to go live. Right.

But she apologized, and that's all I wanted. Yeah. So at that point, I was like, okay, I'll take it down. down now. You got it. Just apologize. I knew she wasn't going to rap with me, though. And I didn't really expect her to. So once people were sitting me- Because she ain't fucking with you? Well, we're not going to do that. But, you know, and I like blick-blick. I like her music, but it was just like the disrespect part of it. But I feel like if you're a rapper, you should defend. You should, you know, why not get on the mic with me? But,

nah, it wasn't happening. And in that too, I feel like, okay. I mean, it's moments there, too. I like in that I feel like, okay, these motherfuckers is overlooking me. True. These motherfuckers is overlooking me. So this is my moment here to shine. I'm gonna get this shit. Right. I'm gonna get this off.

Even if you don't respond, I'm gonna get this off because they overlooking me in this shit and I'm tired. Yeah. And I felt like you was at that moment too. Yeah, that was a mix of it too. Yeah. That in disrespect, I don't take one of that. So I was like, yeah, I'm, but it's crazy.

Once again, I was like, I told my mom, hey, I'm, about to drop something. So why do you feel like they overlooking you? Um, I don't know. When people ask me that, I honestly don't know. I think I haven't had that, that hit single yet, which you could wrap your ass off, but at the end of the day, it's marketing. It's a business.

So I think I haven't found that hit single yet. But once that single comes, then I feel like they'll listen, everything else that I did before that and be like, yo. You think it's a single? Yeah, it's a single. It's a single because the videos are on point. We got the budget. I look the way I need to look on set.

Like, it's not image. It's not none of that. It's like the music at this point, the single. You need a hit single. And like, who do you work? Who are you working with to figure that out to like search for that and get that off? Yeah, so I'm in Houston. I'm based out of Houston.

So I'm with the mob. So, you know, everything's in-house in the studio. All the producers and stuff like that. that. So I'm not saying they're doing anything wrong. It's just like, we just got to keep working until we get that, that record. Mob ties, man. So how did that come about? Oh, I've been in Houston for a while. Now, I don't even remember. I think my manager, Rudy, we had met at, I think a mixer or something like that. And we just ended up hitting it off. I needed a manager at the time. And he was like, come be a part of the mob, because he's a part of

the mob. And the vibes were great. Oh, the vibes are great out there rather than being out here in Los Angeles, because I would have... No, I was talking about with the team. So it just made sense for me. Like, everybody's so welcoming, you know, so I was like, yeah, I'll do it for sure. Especially because of, like, their stamp in Houston. Like, it doesn't make sense to not do that. So...

I would mean, as an artist to be out here, you know, I think you can build, like, way more relationships out here, though, as an artist. You know, being in these studios, you can knock on the dough. It'd be a nigga over there. You might run into a person and you get that feeling. feature and boom yeah but that's the point i'm at like i'm i moved out of houston i'm like in houston i'm in houston okay okay yeah i'm in the a i'm in the a now which is also you know great connects as well but like houston's too slow well being um that you were in uh in the industry so long being as a kid and then you were on a show called signed um and you were doing your

thing on there and you got eliminated on there like what lessons did you learn after being eliminated? I was that artist that thought I knew everything. It was so bad. And I don't even know why I was like that because I hadn't really, I had done things musically like I had did BET Music Matters and things like that.

But it's like obviously you're not doing something right, so you should listen to people who are trying to guide you. So for me, I needed them to basically tell me you don't know everything. And we don't want to work. We're not going to work with you until you fix this. I would have I didn't want to talk about like fighting for like at least 15 minutes because

I would segue this back into your ass the real reason your ass got eliminated. Oh my God! You just keep up coming. I just was hoping you was going to tell me. You know what I'm saying? But that is a great learning lesson, you know, in the industry and just being a high head. Yes. You know, these white people don't be, you know what I'm saying?

don't take to aggression like that. They'll try to calm you down a little bit if you keep going. Like, hold on. You're too hostile for me. And that's where what happened behind the scenes, which I spoke to Smalls Eyes about. I'm assuming that's where you got it from. But yeah, me and somebody else got into basically a physical altercation behind the scenes. And I was like, every time I see her, I'm a whoop her ass.

So production is like, oh, my God, we can't have this. Like, oh, no. They're thinking insurance. Right. It was too much. And that's, you know, it was definitely a learning lesson. Like, you're never bigger than the platform. You know, none of that.

Like, you have to humble yourself. And I thought, like, they ain't going to eliminate me. I'm the hardest rapper here. So then you mix that with them, say, Rick Ross and Lenny saying, well, your image isn't right in. You're like, hey, hey, you're a high head. Hey, you don't listen. Get out. Like, get out.

Damn. Is that like. They weren't like that. Like, I see him out now and it's all love. But it was definitely. That humbling moment. Yeah, I needed that. That's the humbling moment that you needed.

Like, did you feel like, fuck, did you go home, like, soak it all in? Like, bro, like, what am I doing? I didn't because once again, like, I cried when I got eliminated on TV because I was like, man, like, they really eliminated me. But then when I talked to my mom about it, it was basically just like, yeah, like, everything's a learning experience. You need to listen. You need to stop being a hot head and just out here acting up. Yeah. Like, you know, and it's like when I'm in the rooms, I'm not the type of person who's going while out and all that.

Like, I'm not that person. But behind the scenes sometimes can get a little crazy and that you don't ever want that to mix with the music with my career. Yeah, because some people, and you won't even notice, they'll try to throw a little wrench in there and a little monkey wrench in there. And still, you know, it's little bitty things. The people try to do the black boy. I mean, they came black boy you a lot. But if you get in these certain spaces, like everybody know each other. They go, oh, that was her?

Right. Oh, we came over her. And you can't do that shit Even though, you know, moms or dad, who they are, they're still probably like, you know, doing this shit. It's politics for sure. Luckily, like, VH1 still loves me.

I still got other things coming with them. But yeah, if any other situation, you're absolutely right, the production company could have been like, don't ever have her on any, like, she's crazy. But luckily it wasn't that. So would you rather take entertainment or rap? Which is better? You know, that's so, that's tough

because the talk show that I'm on now, I was like, why, I never saw myself, like, as a host or doing any of that. I thought it was just rap, but I fell in love with it. You know, I had, I hosted the Essence Summit, like last year, and I was like, wow, they really see me as a host. So I don't know. I don't want to ever block my blessing. So I just try to do them simultaneously.

Yeah, because you never know what you could do out here. Exactly. You never know really what's your calling. Yeah. But like I said, it's in your blood. Like, you don't know. Like, you're really out here. Like, like, you're really out here.

You're sitting at the table. Like, it's out here. It's for you. Like, it's a blessing. Like, it's a calling. Like, you know, like, so you never know. So you got to do a hundred things. That's true.

You do. You really do. Like, for me, too. Like, I went through that phase, too. Like, I was a rapper phase. Because I knew you from fashion. That's when I was in high school. And I was like, oh, I need that brand that you had at the time.

And I was like, it was like, the store you had was like a tourist attraction. Like, do you know that? Like, people would go and be like, I'm going to. that store I don't know the relation so I don't want to say the name if I can't you know You can say that Nick's name

That's my shit Straight out of L.A That was my shit Okay You can say that Nick again It definitely was a tourist It was a phase

Like I was a phase In the city for real Yeah it definitely was a phase That's how I do Yep I mean I mean I was trying shit I'm like you know what

Let's try fashion Right. You know what I'm saying? And I tried it with my girl too. I'm like, well, fuck are we going to try it with you too? Yeah. Like, you know. But still, when I got here, though, when I touched, when I like start speaking on

this mic, like, it was just like a light, like, twing. Yeah. I'm like, oh, this is easy money. Yeah. Like, I could do this shit like forever. Yeah. Like so, yeah, yeah, man. But, like, what was your musical inspirations?

Or are who you, who are you listening to currently, right? right now. Okay, so I am a huge meek meal fan. I love meek meal. So that's pretty much all I listen to. I'll throw some dirt in there. I was going to love Nikki. So when Nikki, you know, drops, I listen. But it's pretty much just meek Mill and dirt right now. Top five girls out right now. Yeah, I'm like, oh gosh. I'm like, yeah, maybe. her.

Debbie trying to get you out of there. I'm not going to give an order. You don't have to. Okay, I won't give an order. But definitely got to put Nikki in there. I really like Lakey. You really love Nikki. I love Nikki, too.

I'm not even going to lie, man. I might be a Barb. Like, people would be like, I think you're a Barb, jazz. I'm like, I don't know. I just love her. Like, she's awesome. That's what we're calling and fucking. Yeah, I mean, yeah.

I love Nikki. So right now, okay, so I'm definitely got Nikki in my playlist, Leccia. I like Dreezy a lot. Dreezy got bars. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, like Dreezy. She killed that verse on the game,

little on tape, too. She's hard. Yeah, she is. So I got Dreezy in there. I got Rhapsody in there. I love Rhapsody. Rhapsody's hard. Yes.

What am I at four right now? I can't put me in there, right? You can do what the fuck you want to do? Let me throw myself in there. Because I wouldn't be real. Like, I don't got nobody else female rap. for wise really in my playlist. Right now, if you had a chance to, like, who would you work with?

Male or female? Male or female? Well, okay, so once again, like speaking on that hit record, I'm big on production-wise. So I want to work with hitmaker. I think he'll make that hit. As a producer. Yeah. Hitmaker, do make some hits.

Yeah, he do. He doing it up. As an artist. I mean, you get that Drake record. You're out of there. You go on. You go on. You know, it's just what you do with it after that.

But I guess I'll say Drake. I feel like that would take my career to the next level for sure. Damn, you just went straight to Drake. I'll fuck with it. Yeah, I fuck with it. I fuck with it. Hitmaker, though, I fuck with him too. Yes.

Before we get out of here, though, like, what, have you ever hit up anybody? They just blatantly ignored you and you just put you in your feelings? Like on what level business or like I'm sliding in your DM. Oh, okay. Just rap? No, I can't say that's happened. But I'm not a big DMer. Yeah.

Like, so that's never happened. I'm like, I'm trying to think. Has anybody ever ignored that it was like rapper-wise? And you tried to get that feature in the niggins just super ignored you. No. They respond. They respond. Now they might hit me with a price.

That's the difference. You know what I'm saying? Oh, that's like... Yeah, but I mean, I think they... Is it women or men? No, it would be men. It'd be men. Yeah.

And it's only been like twice. Twice. Out of all the rappers that I know that are men, but... I would say they hit you back too because you are a girl. Right. You know, and then they hit you with a price. Megan Estabre was just talking about that. Yeah.

She had to pay for that feature for future. And I just was like, damn, that's fucked up. Yeah. She's your peer, though. Like this is Megan and that's Megan. That's different. Like, come on. But I think Little Baby even said the same thing.

Like every feature he does, he's paid for it. Even if you like, it might not be that high of a price, but it's like hit me off with this, but I'll do it. Yeah, I mean, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. All right. Before we, before we get out of here, this is my last question. What does family mean to you?

I like that question. It means your support system. and you're confident, I would say your support system and confident and love. I feel like family is where your heart should be. How they say home is where the heart is, I feel like that's family.

Now, my family is not big, so it depends on what you give it, but like my mom, I step that and my sister, those are like this to me. So that is my family. I like that. Yeah. So, you know, make sure you shout out everything

you got going on, what you got coming up, Instagrams, whatever you got going on so we can see what to do. Do I look at this or which one? Whatever, it's cameras on you. This one? Oh, okay. So you guys can follow me on Instagram at Jazz Anderson,

J-A-Z-E-Z Anderson. You can watch me every Tuesday on Fox Soul on my talk show The Mix, about to come back in the fall. And I also did theme song for House of Vicious on BT. It comes on every Wednesday at 8-7 Central. So if you want to hear my music,

you can hear it at the intro of the show. And then stream on my music. I just did a mind-your-business freestyle, too. I don't know if you've seen that. But yeah, go watch that too. It's on my page. I watched all that shit. Okay.

Yeah. I was trying to check. I just had to make sure. I'm detailed. It's some shit that didn't wear the ass. Oh, God. I'm like, no. Because I don't know what you're about.

All right, y'all. You know, you know, saying. Back old fit. Y'all make sure y'all do that. So sosewrella. com, man. something for the ladies man we up out of here gone