No Jumper - Jessy Taylor Breaks Down Her Insane Life Story, Getting Sober, Acid Attacks & More

Episode Date: December 22, 2023

Jessy Taylor reconnects with Adam to talk about her early days on social media, Dr Phil fiasco, relationships with rappers, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumperofficial     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world, and it's 8-11 for the record. I don't know why lately. I've just been saying the time when I start. Okay. Just so they know where we're at. You know, it's nighttime. And I'm in here with somebody who I've known actually for a long time. We met in a very peculiar manner, which we can get into.

And she's certainly had a turbulent life story, though. I guess we can get into. Jesse Taylor is finally on No Jumper, formally. Oh, my God. Hello. How you feeling? Oh, my God. There's a lot going through my head just from the past few days.

But I'm feeling very positive and optimistic and I'm really happy that I'm here. Thank you so much for having me. We're giving voice to Jesse Taylor. Wait, okay. Well, all right, let's go all the way back just to start. Okay. I remember you because we were doing a live stream and listening to people's music. Yeah.

And a woman by the name of, I think it was lava girls, right? Oh, my God. Why do I remember this? Your name was lava girls. You're the only one. Yeah. So, like, that was like, because I had like the pink hair at the time. And like, with the rapping and stuff, I look back and I'm like, you know, I discovered rap like really late in my life.

Okay. Like eighth grade. So like I was really into it. Still relatively early. Yeah. 14? And it's not about late. Yeah.

But like I was not allowed to do a lot of stuff growing up. Not allowed to like listen to a lot of stuff unless it was like country music and like rock and roll. So like, you know, I went on my phone and I typed in Nicky Mnage. and Drake. And I would, I just liked it a lot over the years. And then as I got older, I'm like, I can't listen to like all these curse words. Like I'm just like, I don't smoke. I don't drink. I'm like completely sober since like 20, 21. Okay, we can get to all that. But okay, just for the record, though, the story that I thought was hilarious at that time was that you said you were a stripper and you were basically like paying us to play your music with the money you had made stripping, which I loved

that idea. I thought that was amazing. Oh, thank you. And then I started to see you at like party. He's a memory of seeing you at the old Faye's house. Yeah, I remember. I totally remember you and Lena. And we have like a Snapchat together. And I was like, that's the fucking girl from the stream. I'm like, that's lafah girls. And then you just have this.

And that was like before Dr. Phil. No, this is like literally like I had just moved to L.A. And I was dancing. And I was actually living in Houston, even though I'm from Clearwater, like Florida. I was living in Houston. And I was dancing. And B. Dave was the one that told me. because I've known B-Dave since I was 14.

We used to, like, party together in high school. And you're from Florida, right? From Clearwater, yeah. Okay, so, I mean, Florida breeds special people. Yeah. Do you credit you being a little turbulent to the Florida thing a little bit? I would say so because, like, I grew up, like, a lot, like, me and my cousins. Like, we're, like, all one and the same, all, like, really wild.

And, you know, my dad's, like, Italian. And my dad's, like, very, like, New York, New Jersey's from Jersey. And, like, I just grew up, like, kind of really, like, hectic. Like, my dad, like, we grew up with pit bulls, like, guns everywhere, like, security cameras everywhere, like, safes in my room at night, like, just really, really crazy. Like, my dad, I love my dad. My dad's, like, my best friend. We've had a past.

But, like, I never had daddy issues. I always had mommy issues. So, like... Your mom was the f*** up one? Yeah, my mommy's, like, beat me up a lot. So... Really? I did a lot of therapy.

to not cry anymore over this, but she, like, shamed me for my weight, telling me, I'm going to be fat like everyone else and my mom's family. And my dad was always there for me. My dad was the one that, like, got me out of everything. And my dad was my best friend. And, you know, we were, I grew up in, like, a $3 million house. And- So they were doing pretty well for themselves. Well, yeah.

So basically, when my dad was at home, my mom would, like, abuse me. So, like, when I would write, like, help me on, like, My window, oh, it's hard for me to talk about. Like, all I had was, like, a guitar, a notebook. And I would be locked in my room all day until my dad came home. And my mom would just, like, bring me into the closet and, like, beat me up. Like, every day, like, consistently for, like, kind of a long time. And did your dad know?

No. He still, like, doesn't believe it till this day. Like, my ex-boyfriend tried to tell him, and he just, he has, like, he didn't, he won't accept it. And my mom, like, always said, like, you're a horrible singer. You cannot sing. You're very fat. But, you know, like, always everything I did was really horrible. And then, like, in high school, she stopped, like, beating me.

Like, she stopped touching me. Like, I would say, like, middle school came. She stopped touching me. And then high school, we moved to another house. And I was, like, waking up every day. Get the fuck up. Get up. Get up.

Pulling my hair sometimes. Get up. Get on the scale. 123. I want you to be 125. At all, I was 125. She wanted me to be 123. You need to lose two more pounds.

Drop me off at the gym for six hours that day. And then I, I'm. I like literally started working full time. I was cut off financially at 13. And even though my parents had millions and millions of dollars, which people don't know for me, my parents cut me off at 13 because they were cut off at 13. So they were like, oh, like your brothers,

like they can't handle themselves. Like you're like a strong woman. Like you need to go out there and like work. Cut off? Like what the hell does a 13 year old do? I mean, you can't even legally work, right? Well, I was because my dad knew someone that owned a restaurant.

I worked at a captain's pizza. I worked and then I worked at surf style full time. So like I was going to school and then I'd like fall sleeping class. But they had to know that was very out of the ordinary, right? That the average kid, your parents cut you off like 18, maybe even later. So like and then I started like stealing from Sephora when I was like 14 because like I wanted really nice stuff. And then just, you know, my mom was just really, really mean to me for no reason. And I think it has to do because my dad like, you know, divorced her and like, you know, my dad cheated on her with a 15 year old.

and my dad was 32 and he's still with that girl today she does not like me she'd always start up with me actually and always try to attack me and tell my dad like to go beat me up and stuff so then like in high school like my dad would like punch me in the face and beat me up

because and then she would record it because you were beefing with his teenage girlfriend well she was 23 at the time by then like 25 or something like she was in her like early mid-20s but like she got a boob job because my boobs are bigger than hers when I was in eighth grade.

She told you that. Yeah, like, she's like, oh, like, you're no longer the one with big boobs. Like, you're so ugly. Because I applied at Hooters when I was 15. She was like, you're so ugly. Like, Hooters would never hire you. You can work at Hooters when you're 15? Yeah.

In Florida. And it was, like, walking distance from my house. And, like, I go to a thing called Dianetics now. And you're a Scientologist. Yes. Oh, no. This is the reason why I don't cry anymore because I do a lot of therapy there. and there's other forms of therapy.

I went to them and it's nowhere. Can I guide you out of this because it's all bad? But honestly, I'm fine. Like, nothing happens to me there. Like, I'm treated very, very well. I'm not like, I don't go every single day, but like. It's when you try to leave that they get you. I don't think I'm going to leave.

How much money are you giving them for these courses and the auditing and shit? Not a lot, to be honest. They've given a lot of stuff to me, like sometimes for free and stuff. So they really care and stuff. So, but that's why I'm not. staying out here and crying anymore is because I had to turn to that when I turned to that like the beginning of 2023 because I was by then like two years sober and I just would always cry about like my mom and stuff. I couldn't like let go of it and then I discovered that and I just stopped

crying like I don't sit in my closet and lock myself up and cry my mom hasn't like talked to me like she's talked to me when I was on Dr. Phil and she talked to me when I bought my house and Saying what in each instance? Like, hey, like, I would like to come back around. So, like, you know, like, she would just do, like, really messed up things to me. Like, when my uncle died when I was, like, 19, she, like, called me. I was, like, living in Atlanta and dancing. And she was, like, I had my own apartment, like, everything ready to go.

It was, like, 20, I think. And then she's like, you need to move back right now. You need to be there for your mother. And, like, I, she wasn't really in my life. And I was like, oh, my mom needs me. So I gave up my whole place in Atlanta. And I, like, got everything in my car and I drove back to her house. And she's like, oh, it worked.

And then nothing? And then I was like homeless. What? So like my mom, like I don't have a relationship with her. I have relationship with my dad. We're very close and he knows about like Scientology. He knows about everything that's going on in my life. He knows that I'm pregnant, which he does not support because that guy is very evil.

Who's the guy? His name is. Thank you for that laugh. Sorry. No, his name is, but I met him because I used to date Bighead. So when I was over Big Hat's house, he lived with Big Hat, and then a couple years later, it hit me up and it was like, oh, you're so pretty. We started dating, and it was like a planned pregnancy. And then I've not gone to Dynamics for this yet, but a little bit.

About five days ago, he phasedime me with a black girl having sex with her. And I introduced them together. I'm sorry. What? Who, who is it? Just some random. And you introduced her to him. Why do you say a black girl?

Why can you say a girl? I mean, I'm trying to describe her. Like, okay, she's a 30-year-old alcoholic. I don't blame you because you're painting the picture for me. It's just like kind of fucking funny. And he face-time. And I'm three months pregnant and he like breaks up with me. And I already met everyone at that he were excited.

Like, you know, like we're in a really serious relationship. I know we're going from subject to subject. Wait a minute. So he's he facetimes you while having sex with it. Was he hitting you with like this? No, like he was on top of her. And yeah, like that, basically. Really? Jesus Christ.

Like six days ago. So my voice is God. I've been like screaming and crying. He has my stuff at his place in Ventura. I'm like after this I have to go like call the police and do like the keep the peace and like get my stuff. He like hates me. He like says I'm never going to be in your baby's life. And he like for no reason like just to bully me and like, you know, he and then he told the

the girl that like he only got with me because I own a house. I bought my house $236,000 in cash in Tennessee So he was in need of a spot? Yeah, he was like I guess he like agreed to like You know, because I was like oh like you know I'm about to be 26 which I am in three days

I would like to have a baby soon This was like this year He was like okay like we can have a baby And then he's like oh well I thought like you know Maybe she like put her house for red And like move back to L.A. And like get me a spot I'm like are you joking like

Because I live in Tennessee now And like I'm like what are you talking about Like I come out here for like work and stuff but like like to record like studio and stuff and like okay I'm with you on the on the parental abuse thing for sure that's horrible yeah it's I and like I don't talk about this like I just is there an extent to which you feel like maybe it's not just chaos following you maybe you're the chaotic one um I do think when I was a teenager I was a really bad teenager like I would bring like alcohol like water bottles I was like real life before yeah

as like a teenager, but I was like a virgin until I was like older until I was like 18. Well, some of them on euphoria are virgins at certain points, right? Yeah, but like I just like I would like party like I would say like, oh guys at like my high school are like ugly. I need to go talk to guys at college and like I had a fake ID and I'd go to like clubs and stuff. So I put my mom through hell, but that was later. So you were acting out sexually as a fair to say? Not sexually, but like partying and I was drinking.

So, like, I don't drink at all. I haven't drank since I was, like, 15. I don't think you should drink. Yeah, I haven't drank since I was, like, 15. I used, like, throw up on the street and, like, you know, after work, like, I used to work at this place called Surf Style. Like, I would work my shifts and tell my cousins, hey, come to my dad's beach house. And we'd, like, walk around the beach, like, talk to people.

And I would drink and, like, throw up. And, like, it was just, yeah. So, okay, you're in high school and then you just moved to Atlanta and become a stripper? No, like, when I was, like, 20. Oh, okay. Yeah, when I was 20. out of high school for a little bit. You graduated. Yeah. I graduated. Yeah. And so what? I graduated year early. You, I'm gonna, I'm just saying acting out sexually like I said before.

It feels like that. You're hanging out with all these older dudes and shit. What else are they doing? So like basically, I was very scared to do anything in high school, but then I went to Mississippi State University for college. And that was before I was dancing. I got arrested and that's a whole other story. You were just getting blackout drunk and wowing? No. attempted murder, but... What did you attempt to murder? Well, it got dropped down to like, uh, like a, another charge, but it was facing 18 years. What were you doing?

Um, you ran down on an app. No. I did. I, like, like, allegedly they said that I burned somebody's skin off with bleach. An asset attack. I guess. I mean, I wasn't there. I did not do that.

How did they manage to charge you with it then? I have no idea. But I'm, you know. The f*** acid attack? I shouldn't be laughing. It's really bad. What were the circumstances that led to this? So I, you know, it's over and done with, but allegedly they sadly know, it was like my roommate at Mississippi State.

And, you know, they said I put toilet bleach in her shampoo. Oh, okay. And that's how it burned her skin off. And that did happen to her? But allegedly, it did happen. What happens if I don't bleach on my head and you're like shampoo? Like, I've never even thought about this. Does it just burn through your skin?

Okay, so the tea is that like, I should even be the same word. The situation was I used to like, I brought this guy over to my dorm. And she walked in on me with the guy and she starts, she's like really like overweight, like very jealous, ugly girl. And some stuff went down. And then she like accused me as her dad was a lawyer. But I didn't do it. It's not true. And she made it up.

Yeah, she made it up. Why would she make it up? I mean, you know, that's what. no comment. You're saying that she put it in her own shampoo bottle and burned herself? Allegedly that happened out of nowhere. So I'm just going to leave it at that.

Jesus Christ. But that's why I like, but that's not why I dropped out. I actually didn't get kicked out of school for that. My parents were like, you're a woman and you shouldn't be in school anymore. So you're a woman. You're a woman.

They didn't think it was right for a girl to be in college. Yeah. So like I owed like 27,000 in debt from like one semester. I sold like a couple thousand or whatever. But like, yeah, that's why I didn't graduate. But no, I got off like scotch-free with that. With the asset attack? Yeah, that I allegedly did.

Well, you should like move to Iran. They do that kind of shit all the time. I'm pretty sure it's like a regular part of their lives. Well, my mom is from Iraq. Really? So maybe she put the wrong Iraqi. They always got some good asset attack stories in the news out there. Okay.

I was really crazy a long time ago. So that was the end of you being in college and then you moved to Atlanta. to be a stripper. Yes. Who put you on to that? So I was actually doing Snapchat premium back in the day. I remember when I had my own little website, like Jesse store, whatever. And I saved up money from that.

I bought a car. I think because like Lena was the first person I knew who had a private Snapchat. And then when I realized you had one, which was maybe like a year or two later, I remember thinking like, oh, everybody is going to. But then it became only fans and it became like easy. I think it was me, Lena and Riley. were the first people to have those websites. And I was making, I'm not joking, $900 to $1,700 the day, which was huge.

Like, for me, that's even kind of hard to make on Onlyfans now because, like, it was very not saturated. Now everyone in their mother is on OnlyFans, like, from Denise Richards and her daughter, you know. It's just, it's so saturated now. But it was so easy to make money. So the dancing came because I was driving my car and I parked. And this girl that was like my age, she got out of a brand new. Mercedes Benz. And I was like, oh, I'm going to go follow this girl.

And I was like, hey, so like, how did you get that Mercedes Benz? How old are you? She's like, oh, I'm 20. I was like, me too. And then she's like, oh, I work right here. And I didn't realize I parked in front of a strip club because it was on like a downtown strip. So that I was like, oh, I need to be a stripper.

So that's how it kind of started. Okay. And did you like being in that environment? How was it stripping? Yeah, I actually did like it. It was cool. Like, I made a lot of friends and stuff. that. You get a lot of attention.

Mostly like, I mean, yeah, but like, it was just like a job to me. I really liked, like, hang out with like girls and stuff like that, you know, it was kind of like a cool environment. Sisterhood. Sisterhood. In Atlanta, it's like all black strippers too, probably, right? Well, the one I was at was more white, but I was only in Atlanta for like maybe like nine months and then I moved to Houston. And then because I moved to like Mississippi again.

I was like bored and wanted to be with my friends. And then I moved somebody said, hey, you should go to Atlanta. And I went to Atlanta. And I was working when I was 21, I was working 11 a.m. to 5 a.m. And I would get four hours of sleep. And I had no hot water in my crib. Doing what?

Oh, what the fuck? Why would you be working such insane hours? That was the shifts. So like. Every girl was working that long? No, I was just, I was making like at least a thousand a day. Okay. So I was like, okay.

like I'm 21, like I'm hot, like, you know, minus will just do it. And I was the type up until this year, like, I would stay up all night. I really had a hard time with sleeping. So like, I did not mind like staying up all night and just like making all this money. So I was like a really, I really pushed myself. But I enjoyed it because like it gave me something to do. And then B Dave called me and was like, hey, because I used to like hang out with B. Dave in high school.

He's like, I'm at 1600 Vine because I used to live at 1600. You should come move in. I was like B Dave like I'm dancing like you need to like leave like what are you talking about you need to like leave me alone I'm making hell of money and he's since you and c-stic-9 of vine was like all the ticoters or the vine kids right wasn't it where yeah so that's where he was living and then I moved in and it was me and swaggerman and B-dave and then I guess like B-dave was like an alcoholic at the time and me and him got into it over like him being like drunk and stuff like that and then it would just like me swagger man his sister and this guy Gilbert and like we all lived together and made content and stuff and and And then that's when the streaming stuff happened with ice and Sam. How'd you meet them? Ice Poseidon and Sam Pepper. Yeah.

So I was part of this thing called CX Network. Yes. And it was like obviously like a whole network. But how did you hit them up or like how'd you get involved? So I saw Sam at a party and I started cursing him out over something that he had said about me. I guess he like, I said something about his friend or something. And so I went up to Sam and I was like cursing him out. And at the time, it was like a Halloween party and I was dressed as a stripper because I didn't know what to wear.

So then I started cursing him. He's like, hey, so do you want to be on a stream? Like, I think you'd be really good for this. I was like, what are you talking about? Like, I would never do stuff like that. And then he's like, no, like you should come. And then I started streaming with them. They started like I ended up being like one of the main people.

They just recognized that you were going to be some good content. Yeah. And I didn't even know it at the time. I was, you know, you knew me when I was like 20. I'm 26 and three days. So, oh my God, it's been a while. So, like, I was, I would always say what's on my mind. I didn't care.

Like, when I was 21, I didn't care what people thought about me. I'd say what's on my mind. I'd get in fights. Like, I did not care if I made enemies. Like, I was just me. Like, I was unapologetically me. And now- You were really being you, or were you whiling out for content?

And because you knew that it would make you go viral. Like, crazy. This is just a forum where you being yourself, you didn't have to hold back. Because when you're stripping and shit, you can't just be, like, fighting people all the time, right? Yeah, I wasn't fighting anyone at the club. It was, I was, like, at, like, parties in L.A. Like, like, influencers would, like, try me for, you know, whatever reason. You know, no, I'm the winner, so they can kindly go.

Why would an influencer want to try you? It's like, it seems like everybody else is always getting the blame. Whereas I feel like you might quite often be the problem, right? Well, no, because, like, I remember there was this one time. Like, I was talking to this guy and I didn't. realize that he had like an ex-girlfriend or something and she was there and like one of the influencers tried to step in and say what are you doing talking to this guy I was like I didn't know that his ex-girlfriend was like right there like I don't stock these people's lives you know

but just like little stuff like that it was like nothing like it was like kind of like incidents where it was like wrong place wrong time I guess but like yeah like that I was I look back at that time like the streaming time and all that and I just didn't have a filter and now like as somebody that's older now you know about to be a mother like I carry myself very different I my priorities very different too it's crazy because that time period that you're talking about with Ice Poseidon like I'm kind of always thinking about that lately because Aiden Ross and neon and all these people are going crazy with the IRS streaming and I look at ICE as kind of like the first person well he did start it yeah he started doing Pokemon Go and then he just got rid of the Pokemon Go and just I streaming and it's like now all these other people are taking it to these new heights but that was just like a very influential time period. And it was really raw and authentic like the stuff that we were doing like there was this like one fight with this like homeless guy. I remember and like somebody started like like lighting a port like like a torch.

You can see it on YouTube and I just go all off and stuff like that like I just like I look back and I can't even believe that's me. It was a weird time period because ice was just like walking around LA and making all this country. And then meanwhile, I'm in the back of this bike shop on Melrose making as much content as I can. And I remember always thinking like, fuck, maybe I should just be walking around with a fucking camera like him. I don't know why you didn't. But you were making YouTube blocks. But I was just, yeah, I was like at the store all the time.

And stuff like that. Right. So when did you start kicking him with rappers? Was Perp your first love? I look back and I'm like, I don't even think I liked him that much. You were both in a similar states in your life, right? Yeah, and just like, so he was like, no, I got on drugs, I think, after him. Oh, really?

Because I was so hurt, I believe, yeah. Like, I don't know if you remember Diego. He's passed now. Which one? Volumes, Diego. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He introduced us. He was on the podcast back in the day.

I don't even think I knew he died. What the fuck? Yeah, it's really sad. Young yogi, right? No, that's his brother. Oh, well. Yeah. And he has a brother.

But, you know, Diego was such a good person. Like, he, like, one of the best people I've met. And he introduced us. And I went to his, like, old crib. And he was very, like, arrogant and stuff like that. And I was like, oh, like, I would like to leave. Like, I don't like the way that this guy's treating me. And he's like, no, don't leave.

And then we did, like, some, like, ritual stuff in the bathroom. He's like, would you like to come downstairs with me? And I was like, I was like 22. And he was like, yeah, sure. I was like, okay. Because, like, I was going to leave. And then he's like in the bathroom. He's like, you need to make me promises.

And let's hold hands and do like. Like just really weird stuff and like like paintings of naked woman on his wall. And like it was just like and then like he only, we made out for like three hours. Wow. Nothing more. Like like really like I mean a little bit. But like we need to have sex. And then I was like, I was like, oh like.

you know, I think I'm a little nervous to do this and he was really nervous. He's like, oh, we should just wait till we get married. Yeah. Said no dude ever. The smoke perp. And I mean, he was really nice when I first met him. He was like, how do we not know you?

We're both from the same place. Like, we're both from South Florida. We all know the same people. Like, how do I not know who you are? He truly had no idea who I was. Even with all my old Instagram, he had no idea who I was. And. It just kind of started from there, like, and then I got like the matching tattoo with him.

I was the original Christian Rock, remember. And like, it was his idea. And he was like, if you ever to prove to me your loyalty, if you ever want to speak to me again. He would make all his girls get tattoos, right? Yeah, now they all have tattoos. I heard somebody saying that. I was probably you. I was the first girl to get a tattoo with him.

But now all the other girls. When did you stop hanging out with her? So he, so COVID happened. and he was scared to leave his house. And I broke up with him over the phone at Trippy Red's house with Kay Swalb right next to me. Why'd you do that? Why?

Well, like, Smoke, Perp kept talking about, like, Proop was talking about, oh, I'm scared to leave my house. I'm like, dude, you're like five minutes on the road. I said, yo, like, at the time I was, like, a savage. I was like, yo, which I'm not like this now. I'm a very loyal girl now. But at the time I didn't care, like, I was like, you know, like, tell me right now.

Like, are you going to hang out with me? or am I going to go do stuff with D Savage and K-Swave, like right here, right now? And he's like, you're not going to. You're not going to. And I said, watch me. And then we took the picture and everything happened. So did you actually get double-team by them that night? I remember that.

I remember freaking out. Like, holy shit. She is the wildest bitch ever. Dad, I'm sorry. Dad, my dad is watching this. Dad, I'm sorry. This happened when I was 22. They took pictures next to you and just were talking about the- Well, like, me and K-Swave were like consistently together.

I didn't know who De Savage was at all. I found out after. Did that change how you thought about it or what? He was just like really quiet. He wasn't really like he was super nice. He was just a really quiet kid. But you didn't bang either of them? I did.

Oh, all of them? Both of them. Oh, okay. But not at the same time? No, so like they don't do stuff like that. No. So it's like, yeah. Couldn't have been me.

These rappers are so homophobic. They're just like, they're like, It would be gay if we did it together. So like, but like I was already like, I'm not going to say that F word. You know, I try not to Chris Namor, but I was already like sleeping with K Swave, like consistently at that, like after that. And then he broke up with me because I was addicted to lean and cocaine. And now he's Chrison's new boot. I know.

It's crazy. But he's such a, he's actually a really good guy. Like I understand why he like ended things with me. And, you know, I really don't date black guys. I'll just put that there. I really don't. What the fuck? Why not?

He is like, he, like, I just. Why have a rule for yourself? Just like, no, just because like, I can't relate sometimes.

But K Suav acted like very similar to me. You know there's all kinds of different black guys, right? Yeah, but K Swab is very similar to me. Like, we have the same birthday. So like, he thought like,

he acts like very like, he acts like, um, he's like the boy. I would always say he's like the boy version of me. And I was like, and I always, That does not make me think that he's doing too great.

That makes you think his life might be a little bit of a mess. Yeah, like a long time ago, like how, like how wild he was. Like how wild I was. But like, well, a guy could live your lifestyle and be like considered. I'm like the hoe. So yeah, but like I remember when that happened, like, you know, Trippy posted it to the story and everyone, it was kind of like going around. And like people from my high school started reaching out.

And I was like, oh my God. I was hype. I thought it was so sick. I didn't even like it just like those pictures and those. videos that I have like it was just like it was just happening like it wasn't planned it was you were fucked up it seemed like the kind of thing you might do while you were fucked yeah like I would wake up every day and do stuff like coke okay so you're just using coke to get through the day well I was addicted to lean too how are you even getting lean drug dealers I was addicted top dollar for lien where the

fuck are you getting all this money I was getting ripped off well only fans yeah it's an expensive habit. Only fans. Jesse Ray Taylor. So the lean man was getting rich off your only fans. Wow. But I was, I loved like, like I didn't want to quit lean. Like somebody stole my lien and that's why I quit lean. Because you just all of a sudden took an L. Yeah. How many pints did they get you for? Like only like three lines they got me for. It's like a fucking couple hundred bucks. Yeah. And I'm glad because I look back and I've been sober since January 1st, 2021. Yeah, Lean is the best, but also, it's the worst. Yeah.

Yeah, I, like, out of all the drugs I did, lean was my favorite, and I wasn't doing it to be cool. It actually be, and I was on Xanax, actually, before that. Also the best, but the worst, yeah. I, like, but I think out of all of them, edibles is worse than anything. Like, I've done edibles. I think that's worse than anything. I've never done. Edibles will have you on your ass, but they're not, like, addictive in the same way.

Like, I was doing, like, I would have a bakery delivered to my house full of edibles and I'd eat, like, two or three. How many milligrams? Like, like 3,000 a day. Damn, that's, that is an extreme dose. I, like, I'm, guys, like, I'm looking at myself now, and I can't even believe that it's the same me. Like, I am transformed. So, okay, you were, were you really done with Smoke Prep when you FaceTime's him from the trippy red gangbanks? Yes, we were actually done.

I broke up with him. So, we were done after that. You were dating for real? We were dating for real, yeah. And he was just, but he denied it to everyone. I don't know if you remember, but he was. I think that's not my girl. That's not my, you know what?

And I actually was dating him, but he denied it to everyone. And, you know, I felt very hurt because I liked this guy a lot. But when I look back as like, you know, 26 now in three days, I'm like, that wasn't love. Like, you know. I mean, it's kind of like the academic Selena Powell thing, where it's like a guy will have like a crazy ass hoe and they really like hanging out with her. And they are kind of almost want to date her. but they also know that it's not a good look and then they're gonna get made fun of for it

so they kind of keep them on the ropes like I've seen this dynamic a million times so I think you know the past me I get it like I get why like these guys didn't like want to go public with me and admit it like I am such a different person now like I went to a psychologist you know I did the dionetics and stuff

I even went to therapy which was a scam by the way I paid all this money for therapy came nothing out of it like nothing of Scientology very against therapy. Yeah, so, but this one worked for me. And, like, I grew up in Clearwater, so it wasn't, like, weird. Like, I'd go to, like, the winter wonderlands and stuff and whatever. I don't believe in God.

So I just feel, like, too much bad stuff has happened for me to, like, believe in God. So that's why I also turned to that. But I can't even know what Dianetics is. I didn't, I thought that'd go, like, right through your head. Some books. I watched some docs. Yeah. But, okay, so you, the smoke per of things,

over then where do you do what's it going on your life at that time just doing only fans just drugs oh drugs okay and like wanting to rap and stuff and i got turned down by six record labels for being white really yeah they said that really good for being white they're like you're really good but like you're a white girl like we can't make money from me but look at jaden alexis now so times have changed this was 2020 like you know yeah yeah i don't i don't know what she is i'm just physically seeing that but like She's sort of like black presenting regardless of her race, you know? She just like gives off an urban vibe.

Maybe. Maybe I'm too like, you know, you see the way I talk. Maybe I was a, like, I think the reason that I was so like kind of lit on Instagram at the time. I was like a train wreck that you couldn't look away from. Like something was happening all the time. That's for sure. Part of my interest in you.

Yeah. It's like, damn, there's some crazy stuff happening over here. But at that time, I didn't really have that much appreciation for that in the old days of the show. I didn't really like think like, oh, I could just put this. crazy person on the podcast and people will fucking love it. Yeah. Whereas that makes a lot more sense to me now.

Not saying you're crazy right now. I mean, no. I definitely was crazy and drugs contributed a lot to that. For sure. And I've been sober since January 1st, 2021. And it was my decision because I didn't, I overdosed almost and I almost died. Xanax, like a fake Xanax on purpose. Who did?

Me. You took a fake Zan on purpose. Where did you get it from? Like, like I'm pretty sure it was like. like pressed a little bit. Right. I just, I used to sell. I used to be a drug dealer in Tampa.

Okay. Nobody knows this. And how much were you moving? 3,000 a week. Okay. Just in like weed and carts and all that stuff. Carts? Yeah, I was doing carts too.

The carts are going crazy out there. The carts were going crazy. Really? Yeah. And I never talked about this ever. You weren't selling Zanz and Coke and shit? So I quit dancing and I became like the biggest like female drug dealer in Tampa in like 2021.

Making $3,000 a week doesn't sound like the biggest drug anymore. Well, maybe street. No, in Clearwater. Like in Clearwater. Like, it's a small place. I shouldn't say Tampa and St. Pete because those are very different. Okay. Like in my city, like in Clearwater, like, you know, in my little city.

But I was making more than the guys that my dealer was selling to. And my dealer now is like getting married to my cousin because I introduced them. So, yeah, I would just like kind of like selling because I don't want to dance anymore. Like I was still making money from Onlyfans. But I was just like really bored. Like I would just, I lived a very like wild life. And I would say since 2022, I've been like just really like like straight edge and very different. And I think one day I just woke up and I was like I don't like this life that I'm living.

I don't appreciate like these guys fucking me over and like like, you know, causing problems with my family because of like what I'm doing. and how did things end with ice poseidon in that whole streaming era of your life i don't think it like ever formally ended you know what i'm saying i think one day just stopped like i don't think it ever like formally ended right i wasn't told that anything was ending it just like i guess one day like i guess ice moved to austin texas right i think that's what really caused it yeah i remember that so dramatic end to that whole part of his life yeah and if people don't know what i'm talking about like it was very crazy and I never had a conversation

with Ice Poseidon off camera ever I remember hearing that basically like hackers fans trolls etc like hacked his computer put child porn on his computer and then I'm sure had the FBI called and they found I never really got confirmation if that was true

because that is some wicked evil villain shit I can't deny I don't know what's I've never heard of that till now that's like the craziest fucking concept I'm sure it's like you know it's crazy stuff like that's happened because the community and I still have the community like follow me and stuff like that. In a toxic way or in a positive way?

More positive way now that like I actually like like you know after all that craziness I did TikTok and everything got really positive. I have almost 600,000 on TikTok. I haven't posted a prank in like 10 months by it became number one for comedy. I always knew that I was funny. I was always seen you do these man on the street videos and I was just like what the fuck? She's just going to do everything. She's just going to always just keep popping up.

Like a reoccurring character in my life. I just keep kind of like running into you on social media. Like my, I think like social media has been like very like roller coaster. But I pulled away from it because I really just wanted to focus on music. I've been in music school since 2021. So I've been like consistently doing vocal lessons and really getting my voice ready and practicing. And that's really just been. And then I rescue dogs on the side now.

So like I work at like a dog. I volunteer at like a dog rescue when they need me and stuff. So like I just like I'm really into dogs. I'm really into like just a different life. Like I live in Tennessee now. I bought my house and I think like everything has just been really different but in a great way. It's very boring. Right.

I'm not like with rappers and, you know, doing all this crazy stuff that I would do in L.A. But I'm glad because it's. So you just been working on the music and then doing only fans? Yeah. Yeah, basically. Yeah. What do you even do on only fans?

I do enough. Yeah? You got guys that you work with? No, no, no. Nothing like that? No, just more like solo. Oh, okay. Like boobs or ass.

And they're into it. The guys are turned up over this. They're hell it turned up. Wow. Okay. Oh, you said you don't like black guys, so. I don't. Sorry.

Where did that come from? You have a phobia or something? No. I just like, I usually like date like Hispanic guys or, I date like, yeah, mostly just like Hispanic or like white guys or like, like my, my baby daddy is like Filipino and Italian. So like I just kind of like like like I mean I and like I do like some black guys, but like like he's suave type if that makes sense.

You know. He just like I don't know. Like he's really attractive, I would say. Unlike all other black men. No, there's some black guys that are attractive. But you're saying that he's attractive because he's not like other black guys. He's not like, let's like put them in like,

darker skin? No, it just, come on. You know what I'm saying? He's big body. Big body. Yeah.

But, you know. What? He's hot. Right? Actually, I shouldn't say that. He won't do an interview again.

Is it another rapper? You're out the scene. You don't know. I have not listened to rap music since 2020. Why you just have bad memories? No. I just don't like the cursing. Ever since I got.

over. I just don't like the cursing. I like, it's not like I hate rap music. I just don't like hearing explicit things anymore. I like hearing stuff that will like really move me and stuff. And I, when I say like the black guy stuff, that doesn't make me racist. I just have a preference, you know, because people like to pin that like, you know, on everyone nowadays. I mean, it's, it's crazy. You know, you can't even say. Everybody getting called racist? Yeah, for no reason. Yeah, but you're kind of pushing the limits right there. I'm just acting like all black guys are unattractive, right? No, I'm not saying that. I'm really. not. I know you're not like explicitly saying that, but you're coming pretty close. Okay, well,

there is some really good looking guys out there that are people of color, so. Idriselba. Who? He's an actor. Oh, I don't know. He gets voted, like, hottest man in the world or some shit. Well, I saw him at Air Thugger. Like, he's very attractive. Also, very light-skinned. Oh, I like his face. Yeah, his light-skinned ass face. But yeah, he's definitely one of the best looking male porn stars. I'll give it to him. Yeah, like the guys that the guys that got for him. like the Lennish out that were black, they're very attractive. Crip Mac? Does Crip Mac have a chance?

No, I'm sorry. He could take you to the 55th Street alley. What is that? It's basically an alley where a bunch of gang members beat the shit out of other gang members to initiate them into the gang. I mean, yeah, he talks about it all the time. Why? Are you serious?

Pretty much, yeah. Oh my God. Well, actually, they beat the shit out of people who want to join the gang. That's where they beat them in. So it's like initiation. Like, you want to join, let's fight. Yes. But like, yeah.

so but yeah like what are okay we're talking about my baby daddy I guess we'll talk about that why you're so hung up on this guy I feel bad for him even though you're kind of making him sound like a piece of shit but you kind of

do that about a lot of people but like like I really like I feel like if this was like a normal relationship I really wouldn't care as much that he went and cheated I would just okay on to the next like buy the fact that like we were in a like a committed relationship and like we have a baby on the way.

Like I begged him, please, like, please stay around and he won't and stuff like that. So it's just like he was like an actor because like if you even ask like Bighead or you ask like any of these people like, oh my God, he's like the nicest guy in the world. And that's what I thought about him until like I started learning more stuff about him that he denied in the past. And our initial one fight. So the reason that all of this kind of turned really bad, we had one bad fight. When I found I was pregnant, I was like, hey, like, what do you want the, like, the gender of the child to be?

I was like, I'd really want a boy or, like, a girl doesn't really matter as long as they're healthy. And he was like, well, you're not in control of that. And I was like, well, of course not. But he's like, no, but when the child comes, you have to raise it gender neutral and they have to pick their own gender. And I, and when that happened, like, my mouth dropped and I just started crying. And I said, who are you? I don't know you. And then I was like, the next thing you're going to tell me is that.

you're going to pull Linda Thompson and Chris Jenner on me and you're going to be like a Bruce Jenner and Caitlin Jenner. He's like, well, if I became a woman, I wouldn't expect you to stay with me. And then I started crying again. I was like, who are you? Like, what are you talking about? Like, you know, I was already pregnant at this time. And I just like remember like shaking and like just, you know, I went to dynamics for this. But like really just freaking out and just having all these crazy emotions like who I don't know this person well enough like he was telling me like he's really like he's like well if you don't like your baby pick it's gender you're transphobic and you're homophobic and I was like I'm not I just like if it's a girl raise it like a girl

if it's a boy raise it like a boy that's all I'm saying yeah and I's like I don't want like cell phones I don't want iPads like no technology I want it to be very like kind of like old school and yeah and just like he we didn't we were on the same page and I just felt like oh my God, this was my boyfriend for a while. How do I not know this other stuff about him? So how the hell are you guys going to co-parent? I'm probably just going to end up a single mom with no communication. Are you worried about that?

Yeah. It really worries me. Like, I was going to get abortion. And then I was like, I don't think I can do this. Because, like, it's part of me too. Like, the baby's innocent. And like, oh, Lord, like, it's just, I just, I don't. I thought I knew.

him like all the way you know being in a committed relationship and dating him for a while we made music together we have a song coming out like we did like that's really what bonded us is like we would write songs together like pop music and stuff like that that's really what got us together like we'd go to Vegas and you know just do like all this like you know fun stuff and then when it came once i've said i'm pregnant like which we planned it was well you can't raise your baby with it's assigned gender Like that blew my mind. Like I can't even believe I'm telling you this right now. But how do you end up in the position of even having a kid with someone if you didn't know that they had that sort of attitude?

Because I think he kept it as like a secret. Surprise. Surprise. Gender isn't real. And then and then talking about if I became a woman. Oh, so he's thinking about transitioning. No, he told me. I said, would you transition?

And I said, and he said, well, if I became a woman, I wouldn't. expect you to stay with me. So it wasn't a yes or no answer. If I became a woman, I would not expect you to stay with me. But no, I'm not gay and I'll fuck 100 girls to prove it. That's what he said. Wow. And I was shocked.

Like I was sitting in my car because I had just like, you know, got done. I had to pull over. I was so shocked from hearing this. It was on the phone with him. And I just start crying. And I'm just like, how did I not know this side of him? I didn't find out until I was pregnant. So and then I had to tell him, he's like, if you don't accept me like in my

future child for its unknown sexuality, then we are not together. You're a horrible person. You deserve to die. And I was like, oh, oh my God. Like, why? Like, and I just started crying. And I had no words. And then I called this friend that I had and she kind of advised me, you know, just say that you accept him. So like, I lied through my teeth. I was like, hey, like, however you feel about gender sexuality, like, however you feel, like, I accept you forever you feel. Because I have a baby on the with him. I'm trying to like say whatever I can. I don't want him to leave me, you know, but I didn't find out this stuff about him until I was pregnant. This was never came. You don't just go on a date, you know, your first, second, third date, whatever it is, or, you know, start being

together. And you're like, hey, so like, if we had a kid together, like, what would, like, would you mind if I raised it like a boy if it was a girl? I just feel like people who have that sort of attitude probably manifest it in a lot of other ways in their life. Like, it's probably all they fucking talk about because that's typically how progressive people are. I had no idea. I was blindsided. I started crying. I'm traumatized from that to say the least.

Like I have gay friends. I love my gay friends. I have trans friends. My friend, my friend's, gay friends. Shut up to Eva. Shout out to Eva.

Yeah, she told me you're about to have her on. But do I want to raise my child to where it has a choice? I want to raise my child if it's a boy, if it's a boy, if it's a girl to girl. Very simple. like call me old fashion you know right but that's just how I feel like you know I mean we don't need to do anything too overt but like with my kid I mean she's obsessed with fucking Disney princesses she puts on the dresses all the time she always wants to wear a dress she's obsessed with ballerinas

and ballet and she's never taken you know like she thinks spider man is cool yeah but it's not really like she doesn't want to like be spider man she's more into the princesses and stuff it's so interesting seeing how kids just gravitate towards stuff that is like very specifically for their gender. Exactly. And the way that he was like like for example like I told him this, I knew this guy

like in preschool and I graduated like you know with him like later his parents like would come up to Pete like people would come up to his parents in preschool and say your kid is gay and now he's like the biggest gay you know what I'm saying but that was preschool. So I feel like some people are like born

like that. But like I think most people. Yeah, I think most people are. I don't really understand it. I mean, I'm willing to learn. But you shouldn't be talking, like, when it comes to him, you shouldn't be talking about my unborn child like this, especially when you wanted this too. I think that's very inappropriate. I do not accept that.

I do not stand by that whatsoever. And I was very loyal to him. I never cheated on him. And I was like, for his birthday, I got him like this like little card stuff, like open when you're mad at me or open when you miss me. like, like, kissed, like, paper and cut it out. And, like, you know, all I really do with my life now is my dogs, getting ready for the baby, living in my Tennessee home, making music, going to vocal lessons. So you just come out to L.A. once in a while?

Well, yeah, I come out for, like, studio time and stuff because I'm working, but I used to come out for him and bring my dogs and stuff. And then I just learned a lot about him after I got pregnant. So all this time that we were dating, I knew this different person. And then once I got pregnant, damn, like it's somebody I have, don't know whatsoever. Right. Well, I feel very, like, betrayed, very cheated. And he hurt me so much by cheating on me.

I felt like it was the end of world. Like, I have your kid on the way and you're FaceTiming me while having sex with another girl. And I'm screaming saying, I love you. Why are you doing this to me? There was no reason for him to do this to me. It was bullying. And, you know, he told me, like, you know, what I came to conclusion is I'm physically not his type. Really?

he clearly finds her more attractive, you know, to give up every, you know, a baby with me, my relationship with him. You know, he introduced me to everyone, like I said. But like, now everyone knows that he's a dirty cheater and as they should because what he did to me is very foul and very wrong. Okay. Well, hopefully everything works out with that. Yeah.

Kid and everything. Sorry to hear that. I hope everything's good with your child and less than everything. Why would you, why was there a, well, okay, let's rewind it to the, uh, the Dr. Phil Aaron. Like what were you trying to accomplish at that point by doing that stuff? So actually they reached out to me. I did not reach out to them.

And they were like, hey, we have a script for you. What do you like the script? I said, well, tell me about it. They told me about it. They gave me the script. And I was like, well, this doesn't really like me. Like, you know, I really would like to do music. What kind of stuff was in the script?

Like everything I said on there. And they said, well, if you don't want to do the script, we have four people lining up that will take the script. And I was like, do you know what? If I was like, I'm just going to do this now and humiliate myself. and cross my fingers, I go viral, which I did. I got like 30 million views altogether from it more. And crossed my fingers, like, in a few years, I'm going to look back and not care.

And that's exactly what happened. I did that to kind of get to where I wanted to be now. And yeah, it is a little embarrassing, but it's reality TV. It's not real. Right. But most people, like, have a very hard time. Like, I think with like the bad baby stuff because her mother was involved, it was well.

I think once your parents are involved, it was just me. Because we were kind of looking at you. was like a bad baby impostor of sort. It's like sort of going out of your way, but it fell a little bit contrived. Like, oh, maybe this isn't really real. Yeah, it wasn't real whatsoever. And then I brought my own clothes and they put me the same outfit as bad baby's clothes.

Really? And I was like, that is very weird. The only thing I could choose was my shoes and like my jeans. They put me in the same tank top. They wanted me to wear like the same exact thing. And I started. I actually punched a wall.

Uh-huh. And I was like, I'm not doing this. I'm leaving. They like locked me in this like little room and how to talk with me, you know, we're about to go on stage, just read the script. And then I went, I went on this stage and somebody tried to attack me with the audience member to get me riled up. Because I walked in like very like, you know, calm and I knew I was going to say,

I was going to not do the script and flip it. So like, you know, to talk about positive things about me. So then, um, they got me up up around that. Yeah, it was, it was staged. I found out. So like, basically, I went on the doctor Phil and they, they cut me halfway through They're like, cut, cut, cut, Jesse, what are you doing? Stick to the script. If you don't stick to the script, we have more people waiting. You can either stick to the script and read the script or we're kicking you off. And that's exactly what happened.

So I was like, do you know what? I put my hands up. I was already on stage. I said, do you know what? I'm just going to read the script. I'm just going to stick to what we talked about. I'm going to stick to everything that you guys said, whatever. I'm already here.

Why not? I try to bring up that I do music and, you know, really positive things about my life. And that would be really boring for them. That's what I'm saying. So they're like, cut, cut, just stick to the script. What are you doing? They're like, we didn't agree to this. And I was like, well, you guys are making, like, kind of like making it something it's not, you know.

You think all Dr. Phil's shit is like that? So my best friend, Claire was on it. Well, it's over now. I've only seen a few clips. Hers was 100% real. My friends was 100% real. Really? I think mine is, they saw that I was like, you know, getting traction from Ice Poseidon and Sam

Pepper. I'm sorry, excuse me. And they just wanted, like, they wanted a show. And I gave them a show. Right. So sometimes you got to sacrifice yourself. I feel like I sold myself. To the viral gods.

Yeah, to the viral gods. Why, you regret that? Not really, because now I, I kind of, like, knew how I'd feel in the future. Like, I'm going to look back and be like, this doesn't even matter anymore. Uh-huh. So, I mean, I was 21. I'm 26 in three days. What's the state of the Jesse Taylor hate mob?

Because when I was browsing YouTube, I was fine. and some interesting stuff. Oh, so basically, who hate you. So that is a 55-year-old man from Seattle that I call the FBI on, and he has charges against him. He's facing two years in prison.

With the weird, like, robot voice thing? Yes, that is him. He posted a picture of me in a coffin. So he's actually, his name is Samuel Christie, and he's 55-year-old. He's 500 pounds. He can't even leave his bed. He lives in Washington.

And then he also leaked OnlyFan stuff of me. So the FBI is involved. shout out to my special agent, you know who you are, and they're working very hard. He just escaped the mental hospital. Really? And there's, I have...

He weighs 500 pounds and he escaped? Yeah, he escaped. He jumped out of the car, apparently. What the fuck? On the way of the mental hospital, I know because I was following up, and they got him locked up. Being that fat, jumping out of the car,

you might be able to get a mean roll going there, you know? Sort of insulates all your bones and shit. And then I guess it's like, like, like, I don't really know too much about this person because I don't speak to this person, but this person will, like, call my dad and call me and say, like, he called me and left me like a little thing and told

me, I'm going to come to your house. I'm going to take you upstairs. I'm going to shoot your dogs right in front of you and I'm going to stick your Barbie dolls that you have down your throat and kill you and I'm going to shoot you. So I was living in fare for like eight months of my life. And then the FBI got involved and I'm like, I feel a little better, but he hasn't been arrested yet. But he hasn't posted in 20 days. So maybe he has been arrested. Maybe he died. I'm not sure what's going on with him. But do you have a lot of people like this? No. I have like maybe like one other person like that. Okay.

So it's just like people that I don't know that I've never met that are like from that. He found me through Ice Poseidon. So it's like it was like kind of trinkling from a long time ago. Maybe one person followed me from the hate mob. But it's been mostly positive from the community and just like my comment section is mostly positive now. Because I, you know, I don't post like explicit stuff on my only, on my Instagram anymore. I don't do anything for attention anymore. I was a cloud chaser.

But now I'm just like, I just want to do music. I go to vocal lessons. This is all I want to do. I really don't care about. Being internet famous got me nothing but problems. What genre are you trying to insert yourself into? Pop country. Pop country, like pop.

And you know what? I just, you know, I love writing music and I just love doing what makes me happy. and, you know, it's just I'm, like, I look back at who I was, like, four years ago, and I'm just like, why was I like this? Like, I don't, I can't even wrap myself around why I wanted this attention so bad and wanted this internet fame. Because now I do have it, you know what I'm saying? The cloud chasing just, you just look back on that and you regret it?

I do because I, like, I have the followers now and I look back and I'm like, this really doesn't like I love my followers obviously and I love doing music but that's all I really I guess care about now like is the people that truly do support me stream my music and comment in my section like in the comment section I appreciate those people the people that have gone out of their way like I had this fan like show up to my studio session and bring me like like stuffed animals and stuff like that I've really changed around my image to who I used to be and you know I did my music video that

came out yesterday crying in Calabasasas, go stream it. Saw that. Thank you. And I worked very hard on that. And my producer, Luke, we did it like, we did it remotely. He lives in Missouri. And I was crying in Calabasas actually over smoke perp. And kind of came up.

Got to do that. Got to do that in Calabas. Well, I used to actually move to Calabas. So I ended up living Calabasas for a while. Right. So, and I moved out because I went to Vegas. And then I bought my house in Tennessee. And I'm really happy there.

I don't think I'd ever move back here. But I do like coming here and like, you know, I love it here. I love like, you know, kind of the opportunities and stuff because Nashville is very different. I don't know anyone in Nashville. Yeah. It's just very boring. It's very different. It's just a bunch of chicks and sun dresses and fucking cowboy boots hanging out around there.

Yeah. And like, you know, nobody really cares about like TikTok or something. So I'm like, oh, this is me. Like in L.A., they praise you. and there they're like, who cares, you know? Right. For sure. So, okay, you're totally, we're talked about so much.

You're totally done with drugs and alcohol and everything? Like, I have, well, I never did alcohol. I did alcohol. I was like 15. Uh-huh. Yeah, drugs over since 2021. So, yeah, I'm just like, the way I talk, the way I carry myself, my life is just so different. You're not in any kind of antidepressants or anything?

No. Okay. I can't be I'm pregnant. Oh, you have to get off those to get pregnant? I just, I don't want to take anything when I'm pregnant, yeah. But I'm just, you know, I think it was just like maturing and just like, I got what I wanted at the end of the day when I was young. I wanted to be internet famous. I got what I wanted.

And when I got that, I felt like, you know, I even bought my house. I own it outright. Even after all that, it was like, all I want to do is music. I just want to sing and dedicate my life to this. And, you know, when you get what you want, sometimes it's not what you think it is. So I mean, I'm not the biggest person in the world. I have like almost 600,000. But that's still more than other people, you know.

I would have killed for that a long time ago. Right. And I'm glad I didn't get it at that time because Lord knows what I would have been doing. Did you get deleted at one point? I did. Yeah. No, so TikTok's never been deleted. Oh, TikTok.

But my Instagram follows you. It was almost 300,000. And how many you have now? I have an account with 80,000. I have another account with 100. And then I run a meme page. Or meme page? Just like a small one's like 60K.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Interesting. This is a screenshot of where your life is at right now. Yeah. Because somehow I feel like in the future there's going to be a lot of interesting updates. Yeah. And, you know, I was at the studio for six hours today.

I have a really nice song coming out. And I have this song with my, that me and my ex did that I wrote. It's very like kind of Katie Perry like. And yeah. like I guess I'm okay with being boring now. I feel like you're the Katie Perry of our generation. Not that I'm necessarily part of your generation because I'm old as fuck. Well, I'm 25, so I'm like, yeah, but like I was just changed so much.

And I feel like you've changed a lot too. Yeah, I'm boring. You said you became a dad. You said that you got sober on like basically New Year's 2021. Yeah. I got sober on New Year's 2019. Oh my God. Congratulations.

Weird. I got really weird. You were on like everything, basically. I was just drinking and doing Coke and I would take Zans here and there and stuff like that. I was pretty much just doing whatever. Like you could easily persuade me to do any fucking drug realistically. So, you know. Yeah.

I just had to let it go, yeah. Yeah. And plus you're a dad now, so. Exactly. And I work my ass off. I can't be getting fucked up. And you love it. So it makes you happy.

I can't be coming in here with like a weird Zan hangover. Oh, no. That would be horrible. and it's not a good example for your kid. No, totally, yeah. That was a Zan free kid for sure. All right, so what do you want people to check out? So you can go check out my single Cragon, Calabasas.

I'm only saying this because my dad is pushing me to say this, OnlyFans.com slash Jesse Bray Taylor. Your dad is pushing to say it. So I told my dad I was coming on here. He's going to be watching this whole thing. So please try to edit me as appropriately as possible. He was like, you know, if you go there, I want to see you with a shirt that says onlyfans.com slash Jesse Taylor.

Jesse Ray Taylor and a hat and everything. He's like, Dad, I'm not doing that. It's kind of trashy. I was like, dad, he's like, who cares? Just be a sellout. I'm like, dad. He's like, he'll make money. I was like, I don't care.

Like, no. Like, I'm good. Like, no, thank you. If they really want it, they'll find out. Yeah, if they want it. Like, it's not like I'm known for doing it. Let me guess. You have a link tree in the Instagram bio.

I do. Like every other fucking girl. But like I kind of keep it kind of like I'm not talking about it. I'm not crazy about it. If people want to like if they know I have an only fan, they have an only fan. I'm not going to say, hey, go subscribe to my only fans. Like I'm not. I could do whatever you want, honestly.

Right. How do you promote it though? I think it's just like the same people. And like maybe like people from TikTok that went to my Instagram and click the link in the bio. Are you done doing the skits and the TikTok shit? Um. Yeah, I would say, just because... Just over it?

I don't do vlogs anymore. I used to, like, vlog all the time. I don't do streams anymore. I don't do TikTok. I'm just over the internet. I grew up. I just want to make music. So this is your retirement from the internet interview?

You just want to be taken serious as an artist now? Yeah, basically, but, you know, I'm very talented. I'm very confident when I say that. I believe that it can be great. And despite my crazy, wild past... You know, everyone, no one stays the same. Everyone grows up. Everyone changes, you know.

And I feel the most mature, the most stable, financially stable. I'm really happy at this point in life. And even if I do become a single mom, which probably is going to happen if I keep the baby. That's totally fine. So it's still an if you'll keep the baby right now. You might still. Yeah. It just, you know, my dad and, you know, other people are advising me like, what are you doing?

Like, this guy is like cheating on you. And, you know, I'm 25. I better be 26 and three days. I feel like you should probably not have the baby if it's an option. Yeah. I can go tomorrow if I want. And I was ready. I had the nursery in my house.

I mean, it's whatever you feel ready for. Yeah, it's just, but. I feel like if I have this baby, like, I am, I don't see myself dating for a few years. You're still young. You're still, it's going to, like, shape your whole fucking life. If you're not going to be with the guy, I feel like it's probably a pretty easy decision. You have Lennah to help you, you know? Yeah, yeah.

We planned it out, you know? I waited until I was fucking 36 or 37 to have a kid, you know? And you know why? You probably go, like, my dad goes to Disney all the time. My dad has, um, with his girlfriend. Yeah, it's the most important thing in the world to me. And I guarantee you that if I had a kid when I was 21 or whatever, that I would have been the shittiest fucking dad.

I would have been totally absent, just like all the rappers that I know. And I would have tried to stay in touch. But ultimately, like, I was too ambitious. I wasn't going to fucking do it. And it's just going to. hold you back like crazy. That's what, you know, a lot of people are telling me. Yeah.

It just, it was something, you know, as like a woman. Like, you know, I felt like, oh, my God, I'm getting old. I'm almost 30. Like, my time is ticking, you know. So I was just like, I just want to have a kid. Like, you know, and he gave me it. And then once it came, like once I said, I'm pregnant, totally switched up on me, even though it was planned.

I'm really real with you. Like, you know, that mentality you have to get into when you are breaking up with a guy. Yeah. Where it's like, this is going to hurt. I don't want to be a dickhead to this person, but I'm going to have to be kind of cruel and just really. To just cut it off. To just cut it off.

I'm just going to cut it off. And I think that's what's going on. Yeah, that's kind of how I think of the baby. It's like, yeah, you don't want to kill this little motherfucker. But at the end of the day, it's like, it's just not the right time. It's not, you're not going to be with the guy. Let's just get this over with. Yeah.

Honestly, I have like one. I have tonight to kind of make that decision. Yeah. So. it's going to be really hard. I don't push you too hard in one direction. No, yeah. And I appreciate your advice.

I definitely, you know, take you into consideration. You're not the only one to tell me this. But, you know, it really sucks that he was my, it even hurts even more. He was my best friend, you know?

We did a lot of things together. I felt like he was somebody I could confide in, somebody I could trust. And the thing is, I get confused as many people and, you know, that have some type of

fame do is that even if you've known somebody for a long time that doesn't you know mean that you should trust them with everything in yale a little bonus reason that i would say maybe you should do that is that i don't think anybody who thinks that you should choose your own fucking gender should be having kids that's a good point if you end up wanting to change your gender once you get a bit older than i and it called me transphobic for that like that's crazy and obviously you'd probably be raising the kid without him but still like, I don't know. That's just such a perverted way of thinking about the world. And I said, why are you trying to like manifest that?

And I called my dad. I was like, dad, like, he's losing it. Like, you know, my dad called him and he was like, yeah. So like your daughter, like, you know, she doesn't accept what might happen. And my dad's like, well, why are you talking about an unborn child like that? Like, what is wrong with you. So my dad even stepped in was like what you're saying is totally wrong. And, you know, where my family is like very conservative.

And I do consider. myself a conservative. And I just, I don't, I wouldn't want that for my kid. You know, people that are in that lifestyle, they have kind of like, you know, hard stuff. And I will be friends with those people. I love some of my closest friends in my life are gay. But do I want my kid to be like that? You don't need to be making a decision about what your kid's going to be doing in terms of that. And they're not like, you know, so it's whatever. I, you know, I have a little time to think about it. And, you know, if I want to do this on my own, I can do it on my own. I have a house.

I have a two-story house in Tennessee that I can easily raise a kid with, but it's the time. And it's being by myself. I'm going to end up on some kind of conservative watchdog list because I just told you that. I think you should have an abortion, but that's just my real advice. It's okay. Jesse, you seem like you're in a pretty decent spot in your life. Thank you so much. There is part of me that.

doesn't know what the fuck to think of you, but there's another part of me that empathizes with you and wants to see you do well in life. Thank you so much. And either way, you're a very fascinating person. Oh, thank you.

I think you're so fascinating. Thank you. You have hair now. I do. Since last time I've seen you. Shout out to the miracle of modern technology that got me two hair transplant. Really?

I'm about to get a third too, I think. Really? Congratulations. I got to find somebody who's done to do it for free. Yeah. Like Taika. Like how they went to the hair transplant overseas in Turkey. I'm not going to turkey,

though. I did my last one in Beverly Hills. and it's way better than having to go overseas and do it. That's cool. We'll tell Len I said hi. For sure. I hope your daughter, all the best for your daughter. They used to call you Lena the slug.

They still call me that. So, okay, now before we add, do we have to explain this? Lena would never support that kind of bullying for the record. So basically, people used to call me in the stream days, and they still do. I get the slug. I literally made merch out of it because people were making fun of me, but Lena is beautiful. I never saw it as like an in. insult. They just thought I was the Walmart version of Lena. That's all it was. Lena identifies as a

slug because the college that she went to, their mascot is the banana slugs. The banana slugs. So Lena is a slug in her own way. And she accepts that. She identifies as a slug. That's so funny. Yeah, but, you know, I never thought of it as an insult. I kind of thought it was like, oh, I'm like, when they're saying this, they're just like, oh, she looks similar to her, but she's like the Walmart version. Plus, Lena's a lot bigger than me. So, you know, At that time, people were like, oh, she just, the cheaper version of Lana. It's all right. Yeah.

I see people getting called Adam 23 all the time. Adam 21, whatever. So, you know, that's all right. It's not an insult to me. She's beautiful. Appreciate it. Thank you so much. Jesse, thank you for your time.

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