No Jumper - John Mackk On Growing Up In East Oakland, Catching A Burglary Charge In 9th Grade & More!

Episode Date: April 12, 2024

John Mackk talks about going viral with hit song "Slow it Down", sparking a bidding war amongst many labels, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, man, we back with another one. It's your boy Almighty. We don't know jumper, man. And I've been hellly excited to bring bro through you, feel me, man. You got the hits right now, bro. You feel me? I know y'all been here and slow it down. You feel me?

Y'all going to know. That's some fun, baby. It's been a fun. Yes. You think you're giving it on my, with that my gun, baby. Yeah, that's that shit. I appreciate you, man. We got John Mackup in here, bro.

How you feeling today, gang? Man, you know, blessed, bro. Can't complain. That's right. That's right, bro. You know what I'm saying? Man, you feel me? I've been wanting to get you in here for a minute.

You know what I'm saying? As soon as I heard the song everywhere, you feel me, I can't get away from that motherfucker. Every time on my phone, I see that it's everywhere, you know? Yeah, yeah. So I'm like, man, I gotta get bro down here. He's going crazy right now. We gotta do it.

How you feeling today, bro? Bro, I'm feeling good, actually, bro. I just got out here like a couple hours ago from the bay. You drove? Hell yeah. Every time. How you like that long guy drive? What is it?

Six hours? Yep, five, six, yep. Bro, to be honest with you, a lot of the time it's therapeutic. You know, I throw on some ride wave or something. Manifference, they get it, you know what I mean? Getting that mode for real. Yeah, you feel me? But sometimes it'd be longer than other times like today was long.

What time you leave? I left at like four. Like 4 a.m., feel it? Early morning type. Yeah, it was long. I only got like two hours of sleep last night, so. And you've been thugging? Yeah.

That's crazy. That's crazy, man. Man, we glad you got down here safe, bro, to come through, man. Look, you feel me? Tell us about your upbringing and, and, you feel it. And where you from, bro? Yeah, I'm from East Stokeland, California. Seminary, to be exact.

Mama raised me in 8.5ville, but pops had me on a sim and shit. And, you know, bro, it was a struggle, but it don't feel like the struggle when you're young. It's regular. You feel me? Yeah, it's like, we're having fun. Like, I'm outside with all my partners and shit. Not even knowing, nigga, I need some new shoes or whatever the case may be, or we ain't got as much food in the house as, I'm saying?

You have both parents in the house? Nah. just my mommy and my two siblings so it was my mom and three kids, no help. Okay. Tell us how that was. To be honest, it was like as I got older,

it was like motivated and innovative in a way like because like my mama shit, that's superwoman, feel me? So it's like, bro, she did all that shit by herself but no help, made it work. And then and pops was, you know, he was in the streets and shit, so he ended out of jail,

fighting attempt, fighting murder and shit. So I'm back and forth to go visit him. Then when he out, he ain't really around too much. You know what I'm saying? And then he died when I was 10, feel me? Police killed him. And it got harder but easier at the same time because I started getting older

and like making my own, having my own perspective of shit, you feel me? But like, you know, bro, it was hard as fuck but that always clashed me on to my mama because I only had one parent versus my siblings got two. You're older siblings? No, I'm the middle. Okay, okay, okay.

So I got an older sister and a little brother on my mom's side. Feel me? And then, yeah, bray in the household, I was really the man all the time, bro. That's why, bro, I feel like, I feel like growing up with a single mom and shit. And an older sister, I didn't whip niggas for my sister. Hell of the shit, you feel me? So it's like, nigga be overprotective. Like, I learned that protective, like, instinct.

Mm-hmm. Heller early on. Like, you feel me? I ain't doing no plan. Nigger, look at my mama while we're out. Like, bro, what you mean? Like. What age, you start feeling like that?

If you could remember. Like, eight. Like, when I really start understanding shit, feel me? like seven, eight, because I grew up early. So like, bro, like, not trying to like glorify certain shit, but, but like, when I was like eight, I was off the porch, like, we're hitting licks. We robbing niggas for bikes, bignas up, taking their bikes, you know what I'm. That's just, that's what it is.

And it's not really a bad thing at that time. It's just a fun thing, you feel me? Niggins ain't trying to be gangster. Niggas just want to have fun, feel me? A fact. Knockout missions and shit. Just going out to random. Come on, bro.

You know what I'm saying? Point them out. Bro. If you know, you know. If you know, you know. Come on, bro. You feel it? Like, yeah, bro, it was really one of them, bro, you know.

So, you know, but, bro, it was, you know. You see any crazy-ass shit growing up in Oakland? Yeah. You said seminary to be exact, right? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay.

That's where filthy, thing. Okay. Yeah. How I feel being from like a legendary-ass place like that? Like, everybody know about seminary for real if you type into the bay. Everybody said the same shit. They'd be like, filthy. I'd be like, yeah, exactly.

It's, I mean, you know, it's, it's a blessing. Like, it's a blessing in the curse, but more of a blessing for me but like like you know it feel good being from where I'm from you know what I'm saying everybody want to be from certain you know saying facts but when you really come up from that it'd be like all right like you know what's walking around with your chest up a little bit like me I'm with you I'm sending niggis tight it on my chest things better stop playing that's right that's right that's right bro so what eight how was you like early like you know I'm saying

elementary school middle school you know what I'm saying was you you from me class clown playing ball like what you was on type of shit, bro. Hey, hey, that's a good question, bro. Ain't nobody asked me that, bro. Like, I feel like, bro, early on, bro, I was horrible. I was a little, I was an angry young nigga, bro, so like, lost your pops.

Yeah. Misguided angry. Nigger don't know where it's coming from, but he's just angry. Exactly. Feel me? I feel like, but even like, even to a point where before I lost my pops, he, like, it was, it was situations and he'd be like, son, I'm on my way. Feel me? And then I pack my shit be juice,

because I want to go with pops, nigga, that's my, that's my superhero, you feel me? But he wouldn't come. So I'd be waiting, feel me? And he wouldn't, you know what I'm saying? I should make you feel angry, nigga. So I feel like it stemmed from that. And everybody in my, all my media got anger problems.

My mom and both of my grannies, both of my grandpas, both of my dad, feel me? So it made it worse. So, I'm fighting, whooping niggas. And then, like, second grade, I went to school in the 80s on A-5 called Highland CDC. And I threw the cheer at the teacher. Second grade, they kicked me out of Oakland School District.

You feel me? had to go to another school in a midst of me in a village they get stealing bikes doing what I say we was doing and uh you know a nigga was just a bad young nigga I got kicked out of a few schools and shit and then um high school come no middle school come I'm playing football and shit and like sports bro really taught me school or like organized at the park uh school okay school yeah yeah you feel me and sports really taught me how to like be stand up for the most part but it's weird like like you know but anybody that plays sports Like they know like, bro, football, basketball and shit, certain coaches you cling on to because they like sort of a father figure. Discipline. Yeah, discipline. You feel me? So that, I feel like like me? Hmm.

Feel me? That taught me like, all right. Coaches. Yeah. My teammates like my brothers. Yeah. Comrari shit. We traveling.

Exactly. Exactly. Feel me? So, you know, but we ain't really, bro, I always wanted to play Pop Warner. But moms ain't let me because my cousin got paralyzed when we was young. You feel me? And we ain't had the money for it. Carter.

Yeah, you know what? I did it for a little bit. I did it for a little bit. I was too expensive as a bitch, nigga. I remember I went to quit my mom. I'm like, this shit, five, six hundred dollars. You're not about to quit, digger. You was a boy, he was real.

Hell no. I was dirt, bro. I'm on a second, I'm on a second offensive line. Bro, we lost. They made this backwards, backwards crab walks. I'm like, we out of here. I need to go play basketball. We out of here.

You feel of me? No cap. You feel of me? So you wanted to play Pop Warner, but you never got to. No, I never got to. And it's crazy, right? Because, nigga, my Grady lived right down the street. She lived on school street.

And right down or Coolidge. It was right down the street from this park where the Oakland Dynamite used to practice at. So, nigga, I'm talking about every time I wake up, every time I go outside on a poach or something, I hear him practicing down the street. Feel me? And I'm hot. Br, bro, I go watch the practice. Like, bro, why I can't play?

My mama would be like, nigga, you ain't got no money to play. Nick, what you mean? Why you can't play? Fere me, I'd be sick, bro. So, you know, but a nigga converted over to basketball, and then basketball was like my everything. What age is this? This, like, I always hooped, but football was my first sport.

But, like, at this age, it was probably like seven grade when I was like, yeah, hoop is me all the way. That's like 13? Yeah, 13. Like 11, like, or something. Maybe like 6th grade, like 11, 12? Yeah, type of shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like, yep, uh-huh.

Like 6th grade, 6th grade, 6th. When you got in the ball, you like, you feel me, this is what I'm really feeling. Mm-hmm. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Especially because of school I went to. I went to school in the 60s on 6'4 and Excelsior in Oakland, right?

And it was called Explore. And that was my first time really being on a hoop team kind of sort of. And then like, after that, bro, I'm like, yeah, but it's it. But I felt like I was saucy. So six, seven, eight, nine, ten. I played all every year after that. Feel I me? So you felt like like this is what I'm going to do and I'm going to the league?

I was going to the league. He said I was going. Not no, nigga, coulda, what I might. No, I'm going. I was good. Could nobody, the guy used to wake up hell or early in the morning and had the garbage's, put the garbages in the front.

I had a little basketball. They like cones. Exactly. I'm talking about in and out, in and out, in and out, finish. You feel me? The weight best owning shit. Make your own shit.

Come on, bro. That's right. We even had the crates attached to the wall and shit. We used to shooting the crates. Feel me? Like, shit like that. Like, bro, we was hooping, bro. I was going to the league going so what age did you start to realize like this shit I might not like you know what I'm saying or did you ever had that moment like did you ever have a moment like damn I might not go to the league bro yeah yeah I did bro when I was when I was when I was uh when I had to go to continuation school in my grades was so I'm like bro it's gotta do it yeah you know and I'm like it's over with bro I got that call I'm at practice when I get the call too it's like junior junior junior

sophomore junior year and I was already a fuck up me got all ebb's and shit wasn't eligible but the coach still let me play he could have got fire he like nah bro we need you come on you was nice I like to think I was you really I like the thing I was but then you got coach ready to get fire for you man you had to be nice yeah bro yeah like um continuation school and I'm like damn brother shit over with but in the midst everything I was still doing music so like nigga like but I'm hooping more if you me back then bro what you would have chose music or who people asked me before I'd like who you was recording yourself yeah basically what you was using mixcraft six

next craft six yep in the garage yep mixed craft six in the garage doing your shit okay okay so you'll you'll be like chilling weekends at the crib recording but you playing ball to all through the week type shit bro I'm talking about nigger I got I play for two teams I play for my summer league in high school and I play for a AAU team in the summer right and so out my my AAU team practice was right across the street from my high school practice. So I practice, I drink some muscle milk in between and walk across the street.

Practice right after practice, I go to the studio. So you always, that take a lot because at that age, bro, niggas is fucking around, doing board chasing the hose, like, nigga, that's a different kind of discipline at that age,

for real. I was fucking around. Yeah. That's a different kind of discipline for real. Yeah. So that's when you realize like, damn I might not hope because my grades. Yep.

So that's when you go all music. Yep, yep, when I, yeah, continuation school. Yep, uh-huh. I was already recording my own videos all four years of high school and shit. So like, like senior year high school, the whole junior year, I was just writing. I wasn't in a studio like that. Senior year, I barely was in a studio like that until I found a new one. And then like, I was like, this is, bro.

So that's why when people say how long you've been doing music, I tell them realistically, how long I've been doing it, but how long I've really been pushing, pushing, it's since like 2016 when I graduated. So the hustle not your first music video Nah So you've been had shit I'll type the end of that Hell yeah

That's crazy So you already had shit before Way before That shit that shit Hot garbage Yeah hot garbage Look at my mom Hot garbage

Bro I deleted all that shit Because I'm like Where they at Because I thought that was your first shit Yeah I delete all that shit Long time ago This is not nice Hell nah

Noggin' nigga bro I'd be on a The bigger I would have got I'd been on fucking one of the vlog pages you niggas probably you were to post to be os misdiggins it was garbage who you was listening to at that time like who was your influences musically growing up uh at the time um i was listening to hell of like local gang band shit okay feel me and like uh local talent yeah local talent hell of local talent bro like and you know we got some we got some we got some

we got some pretty big bay area names in the back feel me so like i was off all that shit and um to be honest bro i always been the type of nigga like that listen to like pop music and like, feel me? That's one of my favorite genres. You feel me? Who your favorite pop artist? I would say killer Roy, the killer Roy.

I don't know what people consider him. I consider him pop, right? I do too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He probably the top, my top favorite. So who was one of your main influences? Like, did you ever have the influence like this is, did you ever hear somebody and was like, this one to make me rap?

Yeah, hell yeah. So when you put it like that, Loe-Wane? Yeah, that's the goal. Yeah, that's all, that's all. That's all, you're not fucking with him. At all. Especially that time, like 20, 2010, 2009. Exactly.

Oh my, it was crazy. Exactly. Exactly. That nigga, bro, that's the only nigga. Well, probably not the only, but he'll say some shit that you were here and be like, yeah, that's saucy. But you're months later or a year later, you'd be like, oh shit, hold on, double back.

That's what he meant. Oh, yeah, listen to that shit 10 times and catch a new one. Exactly. And be like, damn, I've been listening to this shit for a year. I just got that, Crazy. Bro, that nigga too, that thing is so nice. I don't believe he was just punching in every song.

Because there's no way. No. That shit, bro. It's no way. Nick have a bar so crazy. You didn't write this. You didn't think about that. Yeah, that.

Brugged out. He lied. No way, bro. I never thought about that for real. Like, nah, you're rapping too crazy. Yeah, bro. Nick, so that's who you heard some shit. I was like, man, I gotta start rapping, rap.

Wayne, bro, Wayne was really, bro, Wayne is really, nigga that guy, that's, but I'm telling you, I don't, I'm not gonna feel like I've accomplished a lot

until I get that wheezy feature. When I get that, you all niggas gonna see me full of excitement. I'm gonna be able to, dude, I gotta get that. What, bro?

Wayne feature, bro, I'm talking about, bro, I had that, nigga, nigga, never fucking,

album on the little CD shit. Nigel had. CD player? Yeah, bro. Every song, every song, week's shit was raw to me. What's your favorite one album? A Wayne song for a real. Wayne song, I would say, so if I'm being biased, it would be this one. I don't, I don't know what he

call it. It's hell of different names on the thing, but I think it's called Ice Cream H hoodie. I know it word for word, feel me? Well, take that stuff. You don't know? Nope. I don't. So, so, so that's why I said if I'm being biased, because when I first heard the song was when this one day, And I got me and my mom's and shit My pops was in a police car And we pulled up to get his shit out the car And he was in the back of the police car handcuff And we grabbed we took his CDs and shit

And that song was on one of the burnt It was back when it was burning CDs and shit That song All the CDs and back Yeah, come on. Mandatory, bro, you feel me? And so that song was one of the songs on there And it was fire And especially brad's weird, bro

After my dad died, I listened to That type of shit Because little Wayne was damn near his face rapper too, feel me? So, like, I listened to all the shit that he had on that CD, and that one stuck out even more. So I slapped it even more. So it reminded me the time that my dad was, feel me?

So that's why, like, you know what I'm saying? But I would say either ice cream hoodie or probably, probably this one called Mega Man. Mega Man. Mega Man was crazy. Yeah, yeah. Mega Man was crazy. For sure. For sure.

So once you, once you like, all right, I'm going to take this shit serious, like, what's your next move from there? Like, you know, when you first start shooting shit, you like, all right, I'm just playing with it or like, what's your goals with it at that point? Like, I'm just trying to, you know, just do it because I like her. Like, at that point, was you already, like,

manifesting this. Hell yeah. Yeah, so you knew. Hell yeah. This shit had been something since I was, since I was like eight. I wrote my first rap at eight. And since I was eight, it's been like,

bro, like, the shows I be having this shit, I'd be posting on my gram. I post these shows on my gram with like the crowd going crazy and singing my shit, right? And like that shit, my family, like my media, my mom, my sister, little bro and all them. Like we all in the group chat and my sister, she recently said some shit. Like, I remember when you was, when you was hell a week. When we was younger, you write them weak-ass rap and shit. She's like, boy, you was bunk.

I ain't think he was going to do shit. You feel? You feel? You feel? She's like, brother, he was bunk. She's like, but I remember you always said, like, you're going to do this shit. You feel me? Like, nigga, like this shit.

You're going to buy it. nigga house we ain't never gonna have to you hear me because it always been there i always knew it's gonna be this you'm saying so nigga manifested and prayed for this shit that's why i want people ask how you feeling bro blessed bro a fact grateful grateful is but this shit's surreal still bro that's like i didn't i didn't watch nigga no jumper in the nigga i used to listen to your shit in high school i was off you and frosty to pee and i appreciate that for real come on y'all you know what's come on bro i'm telling you bro yeah yeah this shit is this shit this shit all a blessing bro, this shit crazy.

Circle moment, for real. Yeah. And so being from Oakland, bro, and being from seminary, for real, like, do you feel like being from where you from, like, has that ever stopped you? Like, has the politics ever stopped you from being able to maneuver a certain way? Or do you feel like it's hard being from where you're from? In terms of being specifically from the hood that I'm from, no, like, because I'm not in that shit.

I feel like that was the best thing I could have ever did in my life was separate. Yeah, from the gang bang and shit. Of course you think of my cousins, my brothers, my partners, my partners, everybody gangbang, feel me? And I don't gang bang. I'm around everybody, like, you feel me? I try that one point of time, but I don't gang bang, you feel me? But if it's that, if I'm with my brothers or something, and we see them or them, and it's that time, and it ain't no other choice.

It's up, you know what I'm saying? But other than that, bro, like, that's the best decision I ever made was not getting politics and shit. You feel me? I had to make a decision recently based off, like, sort of kind of like some politics shit not really but sort of kind of like you feel me on based on how everybody else may feel but I'm like this for me ain't nobody do nothing for me but me so I'm not you know what I'm saying could you speak on that nah that look I sum it up for it basically you feel me and nigga feeling to do

something you know like niggas is niggas might be mad at this one but it's like I gotta do this I'm trying to get on like you feel me this for me yeah no care I know it I know exactly how it get bro. Have you ever lost anybody close to you due to these Oakland or a seminary politics? Yeah, a lot of people. A lot of my cousins and brothers and shit because they choose to be in that shit. So, you know, if perhaps they stayed on a straightaway path from when we was having sleepovers and shit and playing a fucking youth basketball and shit, like perhaps they would have chosen, you know, they'll still be here. unfortunately, but yeah, I lost a lot of people to this shit, bro.

A lot. At what age, you feel me, like, do you lose one of your first ones? Like, you ever lost, like, a close homie that you, like, like, this my boy or, like, just an associate? Or, like, what's your youngest memory that you have of, like, losing somebody close to you? Besides your pops, though. Like, one of your pops? Yeah, like, you feel me, like, politics shit. Like, you from me, we just outside, this my boy and then, like, a nigga gone type shit.

Mm-hmm. Probably, uh, I would say. Probably like 13. Hmm. Like 13. But as, as time progresses when it really start kicking off. All right. Like, like 17, 18.

You feel me? Yeah, but I was that young, though. I was still an early teen. Damn, that's crazy, bro. So, um, speaking of you feeling, being from seminary, but you got any shit with 50 or like, what's your relationship with 50 if you got one? It's cool. Like, like, we, I mean, we don't, we just like, what's over, what's over, bro?

You feel me? But, you know, when I see him, like, it's like, what's so, what's over, bro? Are you good? Like, type shit, if I was to see him. But we don't really, I don't really be over there like that. You feel me? Like, I'm not, I'm not chilling on seminary. I'm not, you feel me?

I only go over there for my auntie, my granny. I might kick it for a minute or something. Or if I shoot a video or something for pops, you know what I'm saying? I might, you know what I'm saying? But if I ever, yeah, if I seen him, it's, what's over, you feel me? But other than that, and it ain't really no, like, like, I ain't going to sit here in jaws like we just hella like hey call me or where you at or pull up you feel me it

had never been at okay okay all right for sure for show so bro man you got this crazy ass hit you feel me man can you can you talk to us on how how you came with the slow down or like you feel me like um what was your what was the process on making slow down uh the process was i got them up like probably like three to four bars right four to eight maybe right and I knew them was catchy as so I'm like are it's good most of the time I go to the lab with like four bars or some I get in there I put that down and I just go off of that and punch you in type shit feel me and it was one of them and I'm drunk and I'm up and it was a bad session I'm like but I ain't

feeling this shit I'm like combat brer just just just just bounce this shit out bro and then just send it to me feel me he like he like you ain't feel it I'm like nah bro it's good so he he sent it to me and shit and then I'm slapping it for a while and shit and then everybody end up with it and I just had him copy and paste the first eight to the last eight and I ended up being a hook that everybody liked

so that was your verse and you made it the hook yeah exactly that's like how niggas be yeah you know you know and it was one of them and it ended up going up you feel me so I mean you know I ain't think it was gonna go up like that but it did you didn't like that shit uh nah not not really That's crazy.

He did not, like, slow it down. Nah, no. Didn't be the one sometimes. Yeah. That's crazy. So what was your thoughts when you first heard it? Like, you like, this shit bunk. Like, what was you thinking?

Yeah, I'm like, this shit bunk. Like, I don't even, feel it? Like, it's good. Like, I didn't even show my niggas right away until I was playing it in my rotation. Feel me? And then they're like, brother. Nick, why you ain't saying this?

Send me this, boy? I'm like, I wouldn't even fucking. You all, I'm like, yeah. I'm like, man, brad. And I still ain't dropping. I'm like with these niggins you're talking about for me and so I still ain't drop it but when I needed something to drop because I hadn't dropped in a minute bro I dropped it with a lyric video on my gram and shit and then over the time that I'm up climbing climbing my analytics and shit like my and like niggis it's just climbing and then nigga one day hell the shit hit the fan and shit and get that my fuck go up

I'm like bro what the f everybody here to be like go up remember so I was I use it I used the sound the audio sound for like certain posts and shit and like, you know what I'm saying? And little shit, but I wasn't really dialing in on that shit like that. Because I'm dropping hell of music. I thought hell of other shit was going to go before that. And so like, so I seen that people start using it. So I start using it. And it just hit the algorithm.

And then bigger people start using it. And they, they, nigga, amplified that shit times 10. Yeah. Uh-huh. So TikTok. It was going up. And then I ended up coming out here for hell of label meetings. And then my manager, Matt.

He like this nigga like he like bro He like John bro that I'm up like 500 videos or or something you feel me a thousand videos and we every like every And every and hours going up like a thousand two thousand videos me and bro's crazy he like brady you got yeah bro because it had went viral it had went viral and then it stopped and then they went viral again with a different on a different sound page so it got two sound pages on tic-tok so it got one with like 15,000 videos and it got one with like a hundred some K so yeah how did that shit feel bro well was that your first like like hit like maybe like you know you could have like a smaller one like in your city but like that was like the first one like this is it hell yeah

how that should make you feel bro like what was the first moment when you like damn nigga like I'm I'm low key here like it's a hit the first moment was at the might Sharm show. Mm. Niggia. Not too long ago, probably like a month ago. And sack.

And bruh, I put it on my gram, bro. Nica, they were screaming at that motherfucker. Word. Nick, I didn't have to

say nothing, bro. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, I'm like, bro, what the fuck?

It did. And then after that when I was just at rolling loud, nigga, they were, they were screaming it there too,

bro, and I'm like, because I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I'm some action about that. Yeah, bro. Like, nigga, yeah, 3-0 bring me out.

That's a little bro. Like, he's going crazy, bro. Shout out to 3-1-0. Bro, he'd bring me out on his set, bro, right? And I'm like, I'm about to perform it. Few people might know it, feel me? But they ain't really gonna be.

You don't got big expectations. Yeah, like, I'm like, man, I'm about to just try to do my shit, make them feel me? I come out, they're screaming it. I'm like, nigga, what the fuck? That shit had me so juice, I was ready to jump off the stage.

But I ain't, you feel me? I ain't never been a roll it loud. I didn't know you can step on the speakers and shit. I'm like, yeah, nigga, bro, next year I'm doing hell this shit. But, bro, that's your had me so juice, bro. I'm like, bro, this is crazy. I did not know they was going to sing my shit at Rolling Loud, bro.

But that was another surreal moment where I was like, God damn, bro, this shit. I'm here, bro. I'm here. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy. Hell yeah. Do you feel like your personality is reflected in your music? Hell yeah.

Yeah. Thousand percent. Niggas be, bro, it's to a point where niggas be like, they be like, they be like they be in the comments like bro this nigga this shit weak or they be like but this shit weird or or it's somebody said some funny

ass shit right I love the comments it's funny as fuck even when they're talking shit I be trolling back you feel me but look somebody was like what you say he said he was like this shit this shit kind of he said this shit kind of raw but it's kind of ass

at the same time I mean fucked up I'm like this shit weak but this shit nice so I think I'm coming back I'm like bitch ass nigger but I had to laugh though so he like but let me go check out the other shit that he came back like bro all right your shit fire you feel me but it's like I'm saying that because nigga the shit that I do I be trying to do wacky shit that make people be like brother he just really do that right bro what the why would he do that like like

Because it's different. Out the box. Yeah, you ain't never heard it, but it's still in the pocket. And, like, you still floating on the beat. But it's like, damn, bro. And I feel like, and I feel you, and I'm a goofy-ass nigger. Like, you feel me? Like, so it's only right that I show that in my music.

I like to do the funny, like, punchlines, the movie references and the pauses in between certain bars and, like, the tone of my voice switch shit up. It's just fun. Bringing the fun back into the music. Exactly, bro. Exactly. To sum it up. Bringing the fun back into music.

because I want people to hear me, when they, when they sat or down or something and be like, it turned up, you know, the ladies be outside what they,

what they, what they punners and shit and they might be going through it, nigger, going through it with their nigger or something, and they turn up, get pretty,

feel me, turn my shit on and go crazy and feel good, you know, you'm saying? Even for the niggas, I want to feel like

they can knock a bad, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You're saying? Yeah, exactly. That's right. How do you feel when,

like, motherfhackas be like, Like talk rapper ass, nigga. You know what they don't even know about a nigga catalog. Oh, God. Bro, to be honest, that shit, that shit is like, it's motivating, bro. It's weird as it may sound like that shit.

I'll be like, all right, bitch-ass, nigga, I got something for you. I'm gonna show you this. You gonna see, nigga. Just give me, just give me another year, year and a half. You gonna see, feel me? I know everybody gonna eat their words, because even before I got to this point, niggas were saying certain shit and they ate their words.

Nick, where I'm from, nigga, I get more love in, fucking L.A. than I get at home in the Bay Area, nigga. You know what I'm saying? How is it that I get more love on SoCal than North Cal and I'm from there from a nigga from a young nigga. It's crazy like that. Do you feel like that's because, nigga, you don't know some extra doubt gang banging that shit and that's all niggas want to hear damn near? Yep, yep.

I feel like that play a part too, exactly. You feel like it was harder for you because you wasn't on those street shit to still make it and do your thing? Yeah, like, like I feel like that play a big ass part in it for sure because everybody love controversy. Niggas love controversy and politics and shit. that's what that's what give views and feel me and like I respect it like but I'm not a part of that and if if I ain't going I feel like bro like

like on some spiritual shit bro like if I can't get to the next point by being me a thousand percent without doing some Fugazi ass shit I'm cool it ain't meant for me feel me I get it somewhere else like it's good you know what I always knew bro

I'm gonna make my fucking one way or another to the point where my fucking don't got a choice I didn't give I gave the Bay Area no choice but to fuck with me. I ain't dick riding no niggas. I don't need no feature that bad. I don't need to be locked in with no nigga. Feel me?

Because I don't give a fuck enough. You know what I'm saying? Like, I know what I could do. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying? So it's like, it was always that, bro. But, yeah, bro. A nigga was rooted out at home before anything.

And I made them niggas eat their words. So when niggas said it one hit wonder, shit, y'all see. Right. It's all good. I got something for you. And I feel like that's the best mind state to have you, You feel me, because a lot of niggas let her make them angry.

You know, when you let shit get to, you'll get the change in how you move because you're letting this shit get to. You feel me? Exactly. How do you block out the hating ass comments and you feel me? Like, what do you do? I write. So, like, not only do I write, but like, nigga, bro, I'm outside of music, bro, I don't only do music, you feel me? Like, I'm in the gym, I box.

Everything, you feel me? Like, everything under the sun that's active, bro. I do. Like, I'm in the gym. five days a week. And I feel like that gym, that gym shit, bro, it, you know, it stimulates your mind. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

So I feel like certain shit, certain shit kind of get under my skin with certain shit, but like, I go to the gym. And I just, you feel me? By the time I leave the gym, I don't know if I don't get. You don't smoke, you don't drink? Nah, I drink not as much as I used to, but I drink, if anything, feel me?

Like, but like, no, I don't smoke or nothing, you know what I'm saying? You never tried it? Yeah, I, I used to smoke when I was younger. I started smoking at like nine, bro. That's crazy. I think it was nine smoking.

Who put you on smoking, you remember? The older ponies, bro. So where my mama raised me at, bro, in A5 Village, I was back and forth. I was back and forth, like, you feel me? Where Mom stayed in the Village, it was this shit called the Dollar Boys. We call it Moneyville, feel me? Tassel Village. So the older nigga, it was a group of older niggas that was just always on hot shit in the

village, you feel me? That was the big bros, sort of kind of, you know what? And so, like, my first time. hitting the blunt was nigga. So we had three stories. We had A and B, C and D, E and F apartment, right? And we lived on a middle apartment. So

right in front of our complex I hit the blunt. My mama called me. Caught me. I'm like 9. Nica, she come outside. She's like, get your bitch ass in the house right now. They got to get the house. She waited behind the dough with the belt. They got come in the house. I come walking in like, feel me? I don't know she's behind a dough. As soon as I come in, she Wacking you all in my shit

Wap, wah, getting on me, but that was the first time I hit the blunt. Then I started cutting school to smoke, sixth grade, um, get caught, seventh grade, we're smoking,

eighth grade, then I get put on probation in like ninth grade and I'm on ankle for like 45 days and shit. What you do? Stupid shit. Caught you a case, what happened?

Yeah, burglary. Ah, stupid shit. Me too. Yeah, you feel me? The burglaries.

Yeah. They got to do what they got to do, bro, they're trying to get to it. Yeah. Come on, bro. I feel you. Especially,

when you ain't got no money You feel, but you got it. When my fucks at school Talk about you, a nigga talking about Dan, looking what a nigga got on and that shit gonna go make you fall in something.

Yep. You're gonna go fall in a nigga window Expeditiously. Come on, bro. I know how I get. I know how I get. You feel it? Bitch, you get talking about

look at the bottom of his jeans. Dave Redd. What? Niggas. You're going to get the field right now, bitch. I'm going to get some jeans. What are you talking about?

I swear to God, bro. I know how I said. I said, we used so we used a probation. You were on house hers, man, what you was doing on house arrest, bro? How you kept yourself stimulated on house earth? I was fighting reps, bro. For real.

And I was hooping at that time. So, right, so my, what made it worse is my PO was at my school. Like, we had a PO at the schoolhouse. It was like the little station in the back. Yeah. I know how I get. Do you know what? Like, bro, what, nigga come to my class.

Bro, I was charging my ankle monitor in class. That's crazy. Niggas be like, blood, crazy. And then when I'm hooping it, when I'm hooping it, when I'm hooping it, we go to a game or something. I got ankle monitor on. I'm the only young. with tattoos I'm buff as a kid. Who's this grown-ass thug on the court?

I swear to God. I swear to God, bro, that's how they was. But that's how they was crazy. And I'm like, bro, I was high-hitted back then too. So I'd be like, but like, what you looking at, bro? Like talking shit, I didn't have a problem with people talking shit. Like, like, as in like, people didn't talk shit to me because they was nervous of, you know? Like this, look how he looked.

Like, nappy-ass head, tattoos, ankle-miling the wheel. And as a kid. Yeah, exactly. What age is this? This is like, this is like, actually, A, ninth grade yeah ninth 10th most niggas wasn't you feel me most niggas wasn't tatted up by ankle monitor yeah I was like I was on ankle monitor like like like 10th yeah you feel me so like not niggins be looking at a nigga like a mass murderer

bro like what's up with this nigga you own that yeah yeah but now it's different back then it wasn't it wasn't yeah yeah that's crazy bro so man nigga uh I remember you was saying you feel me you had hell a label meetings and shit you feel me so like is you sign yep yeah yeah all right all right all right All right, so what was it like a bit in war, nigger? Like, how was it? Yeah, it was, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a bit in war. We was trying to go with the best terms, you feel, I mean, like, what felt the most

genuine in the best, you feel me? A nigga wasn't really too much tripping off a big, big bag. The first deal ain't going to be what you wanted to be. Feel me? Even if, I mean, if you even saw it, you feel me? But like, we was trying to go where it made sense. And we went where it made sense, but after all, it didn't make so much sense. You know what I'm saying?

Like, a nigga would have been better off indie. Like, you know what I'm saying? So you regret that shit already? I don't regret it. Everything happened how I was supposed to, so I don't regret it, bro. But I'm learning from it. You feel me? Like, a nigga ain't getting fucked over or nothing.

Right. It just ain't. It just ain't what I thought it was going to be. Like, it's not, I'm not getting the correct push that a machine's posted. Right. Everything is solely based off strength. Me, my manager and my engineer slash producer. Feel me like and get nothing is from no label or nothing I'm I'm basically in the

They basically just gave me along like like hunt little nigger Huh go blacks very like that's what it is bro you know saying no but I mean so be it bro you gotta roll with the punches honestly you feel I'm saying I thought you got to use the first dealers leverage and you in here now exactly figure it out now I'm here exactly right type shit exactly as you should bro that and that's crazy but um niggia I seen you did the remix with my nigga He and Bezzie, how did that come about? Yeah, uh

Remix to slow it down for y'all who don't know. Yep, yep. So my manager and his manager is like locked in. Okay. Feel me? And they felt like it was, it was the best move to collab the two, feel me? Because Bezzie, crazy.

That's, he'd be going crazy. Everywhere. Yeah, exactly. It's been for a minute, too. Yeah. You know, most, a lot of nays come and go. He's been around for a cool little minutes. It's been like two years now, then.

He had a couple of our ones, didn't he? Facts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He got some shit. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm like, all this is good. Like, at the time, I wasn't really too familiar with him,

he busy until, until my manager was talking about him and shit. But when I heard the song, I'm like, oh, yeah, I know what that is. Like, I'm going crazy, feel me? And then I locked in, like, all right, then he got on it. Then it was that. Fear of me? So, that's how that shit came about, though. And it worked out for the better two that motherfucker was, it was one of them ones.

That's the fact that motherfucker's move is. bro. Do you feel like Bay Area or West Coast music in general has a ceiling and do you feel like you got a ceiling being a barrier rapper? I feel like I feel like bro, we're to the moon with this shit, feel me? But I do feel like it is a ceiling with a lot of this shit, especially Bay. I'm not going to speak for L.A. because I'm not from out here. Right. Feel me they have crucified me. I'm not from out here so I can't speak Phelette. West Coast in general, but I thought we got a ceiling, you feel me? Yeah.

Or like that's people's opinion. Like you feel me, rapping a certain way, you got a ceiling. Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah,

that's the narrative. How do you feel like, how do you feel like you navigate through that? Like, nigga, I'm gonna push that. Ain't no ceiling. I'm gonna figure it out.

Like, you feel me? What's your method? How do you feel like you're gonna go about pushing past that ceiling? Consistency and like, and like love, bro. Like, I'm not in competition with nobody.

Bro, I fuck with everybody. I fuck with all type of music, bro. And I feel like I'm not limited to just one style. right now that's the style that I've gotten known for but I have multiple and like I feel like my versatility is like like limitless when it come to the music I could do any type of you want some lyrical shit you want some singing shit right you want some

you see me you know I'm saying like on some Grito shit grito fuck it bro when I was in studio with that nigga bro I'm venturing off but I got I got to say this but when I was in a studio with him bro and he was recording shit go go yeah bro he showed he showed um um some other shit bro I'm like, are this nigga really an artist, bro? Facts. He's really an artist,

bro. He's making music for a long-ass time, bro. He got the formula. Yes, bro. And that shit, it's amazing, bro.

And it's like, niggas like that that I'm going to surround myself with it. I don't want to be stuck around just this, just that. You feel me? Like, I like,

I like, that's stuff in the box. Exactly. Feel me? And that's how I always thought. And sure enough, nigga, I made it out of the bay.

Not too many, not too many, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but not too many Bay Area artists get the love from LA. They do, but like. Let's stay on some game bang and shit. You know, niggas love game bang.

Yeah, for sure. I feel like that's the easy route. You feel like me, niggins. Talk about some dead ops, you're in the door. Yeah, for sure. I hate that shit. It's crazy.

I hate that shit. I feel like, bro, that shit need to change, bro. Like, do you feel like you're gonna be one of the niggas who gonna change that or how you go about that type shit? Like, this is not what we're doing. Like, you feel like, I'm gonna be the one who gonna change that. Yep. And it's crazy. I always, I always say that. Like, I always say that about that. And like, uh, like the, the, the conversation of, of, of nobody ever makes it out the bay or nobody ever gets bigger than this person or bigger than that person. And I don't want to be bigger than nobody. I want to be the biggest I could be, right? But like, bro, I feel like, bro. I feel like I'm going to be the change for that shit. Because I'm not ever fin to be rapping. Even if, let's say perhaps I did. Nick a nigga drown something or something pop something up. I still ain't going to talk about it. That's how I was raised around. You feel me?

Right. The 90s generation. Yeah, you feel me, niggas don't talk about. Yeah, ain't none of that. We don't put that, we don't even put it on the net, bro. Feel me? Like, all the shit, niggas didn't been around or did, bro. You would never see me post or glorify, sir. But that shit bunk, bro.

Feel me? So that's how I'm gonna beat it is just to stay pure on what I'm doing. Eventually, niggas gonna hop on that wave or, nigga, I'm about to do it for the bitches. Like, you feel me? It's, what? I always say women and children. Exactly.

Niggas don't buy nothing. Shit. Niggas don't support. Niggas don't buy merch. niggas are the first thing niggas is say no dick right then oh my niggas women and children they're gonna buy whatever the kids is gonna tell their mama for me women and children bro that's the key bro what facts facts and the whole time i like every time i say that right one of my one of my one of my one of my little homies here producer uh we

was in the lab he like bro he like he like yeah bro um uh i i'll be doing it like this because i be i be i be getting it for free oh this and that and it's like a program or some shit and I said but that right there is the reason I don't do music for you little niggas because nigga y'all gonna try to fight we used to burn CDs y'all go get it the freeway as possible bro feel me I don't want to do music for y'all niggas don't buy nothing come on bro niggas gonna gravitate towards where the ladies go to family wherever the bitches go they go they're gonna play it because bitches like it so yeah eventually get the niggins

come on bruck come on bro you got the formula you tell y'all for so like you feel me that's what it is bro like and I and I've I've been saying it before my song did what it did and after my song did what it did bro it just proved me right for me because that song like a lot of niggas probably don't even like that bro it be brady bitches posting videos slapping it right and it'll be niggas in the back and the niggas in the they'll be sitting there like this then when the camera get on them they feel me like you am saying it'd be shit like yeah like niggin you go to what you know what that's what that's that like bro you go do it because nobody want to scare the holes with their playlist come

on you don't want to scare the holes with your playlist Bro, for show, for show. Yeah, bro. Bro, how do you balance your personal life, you feel me, with the rap shit and you starting to blow up? Um, my personal life, I'm still getting, I'm still getting used to it. Like, like, I'll be, I'd be at that. My brother, uh, be telling me, he'd be like, bro, we'll be at the gas station or something. I initially, I pull up, bounce out, going that motherfucker or something, be talking or something.

come back out and he'd be like bro you got stop doing that bro you know you know who you is bro you know who you be coming bro niggas know you know you know why you doing that he's like just give me the money i'm gonna go in there feel me i'm like all right bitch ass nigga un you feel like me like nigga chill out you're used to a chair you feel me so it's like a nigga always been on certain time like as far as like being on peas and cues head on the swivel just because certain shit and nigga endure life or death but like you know like nigga I'm not feel me I'm not used to certain shit but that is that's facts bro so I'm still adjusting like um

nigga gonna get better with that shit but niggas still getting it together for sure for sure bro man what you feel like is one of the biggest misconceptions about being in a rap industry not that you're in it the biggest misconceptions

about being in the rap industry like shit that niggas think this shit is but it's not yeah to be honest bro like this shit phony fakings them up everything is

Pre-meditated everything is like they get nothing is you know what I'm saying like it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's weird that niggas get a genuine organic banger Facts you feel me and I feel like that's why like the labels went crazy when me and 310 shit went up you feel me for the simple fact that brats it was organic niggas ain't got to put no type of bread or no type of you feel me this shit just how did you yonick um our managers too again you feel my manager's the goat bro that niggins put it's put it's put and all them putting all their pieces together as you should it is crazy because everybody like even my mama be like my mom will be like my mama gangster by the way she don't she don't like people brer she she right around with you know what you understand she is she on that brus so like niggas she don't f***le people bro you

what you're saying but when she with somebody she f***le somebody so she'd be like she ain't met my manager yet for me but she's like we're mad at like i got to meet matt like you feel me like i i'll f*** matt tell matt what's up this and that i can't wait to me type shit just because like she see her and my aunties and they'd be like Mac manager like he got a good manager like he's doing this shit he'd be putting him in their rooms I'm like yeah it's it's it's nothing less bro you feel me yeah what's some fake and funny shit bro you you experience in the energy like what make you say that you from like this shit funny um that Hollywood shit niggas be like oh yeah bro go out they way to tell you hey bro take my

shit down bro take my number down bro we gotta da da da da nigga lock in nigga me on some faulty shit You feel me on some fake shit. But it's like, don't even play cool with me, because I always grew up on some, bro. If I don't fucking, I don't fuck with you, or not even not fuck with you, but I'm not gonna fake the phone. You feel me?

Like a nigga just fucking with you because you got some shit going. Nigger don't even really think that, they don't even really like this song, but he's see everybody playing this old bro, let's go some shit. Come on, bro. Yeah, from that to the A&Rs,

to the interviews I didn't did. Like, you feel me? Like, niggas never keep it a hundred. Like, bro, I would rather a nigga tell me all the way, like, bro, I ain't know you before this shit, but that song went crazy, so I looked into you, bro, and that shit fire. I do fuck with your shit. And you got a buzz, bro.

It's going to help me and you if we, you feel me? I'd be like, for sure. Nick, my mom's like, come on, let's do it. You feel me? I respect shit like that. Feel me? I don't take it as disrespect. I don't take it as nothing.

What I feel weird with is the fake shit. Like, I hate that shit. Because you can tell. Yeah. You could tell. Always. Always, bro. That shit is weird, bro.

But I'm adjusting to that shit, though. you feel me like because I got to in a career choice that I'm choosing. It's like, you got to adjust to that shit and just just get with it or get lost. Nick, be a dinosaur or elevate. You got to play the game too. You know what I'm saying? Facts, bro. Speaking of adjusting, nigga, can you get these niggas any advice, bro, for like, you feel

me, them new rappers and niggas coming up on how to handle, nigga, the pressures of this shit? You feel me like of the fame and success, nigga? To be honest, bro, we need plumbers, bro. I say that shit all the time. I say, bro, we need more janitors. We need more janitors. This is a new nigger rapper every day. Trashmen, they got a union.

It's good over there. I swear to God. You can pay good at the union benefits. Oh. Digger what? No, I just don't look, brother. You can't play it. Bro, to be honest with you, bro, like,

nigga, if you, if you love this shit, bro, let the love show, bro. Like, when you love something, nothing can deter you from doing that or, feel me? And like, believe in yourself, bro. Like, if you're consistent, you could do, if you got a structure and you consistent and discipline, you could do anything in this world. It don't matter what it is. So it's like, nigga, you work so hard. If you work so hard for something, nothing else should be able to make you be like,

oh, yeah, all right. You feel me? Kobe didn't, nigga, spend, nigga, the whole day, three, nigga, the whole day, three different workout sessions going hard just to nigger go to the fucking uh court and let a nigga talk him out of his game and make him be you feel me no like you like you work hard for it so you know what you you feel me bound to do or that's the for so i feel like my goat exactly i was about to wear my cobi shirt but i wore the nip this the other go too but like niggas yeah bro like Kobe the goat bro like a mother f*** oh my mom i may go Kobe and Mike

tell these niggas come on my bro i'm crazy no better than Kobe, bro. I don't care about all them rings, bro. This man, determination. You can read, watch Jordan somewhere gambling. Oh, God. Kobe in the gym. Going crazy.

Go ahead. Go crazy. Binky. All kind of shit. Hamsrings whooped. Nigel what? Bro, did you see the documentary of the like the Dream Team? Mm-hmm.

Bro, you see he changed the whole dynamic of that motherfucker. He came in there like, you must just need me. Come on. Fimmie and everybody at the club. They come in, they come in them up. They come through lobby drunk. Kobe got his, nigga, his uniform on for to go to the gym. Facts.

After that, that turned LeBron Savage up. Nick, LeBron has his era, but don't compare him to Kobe. Stop. You feel me? Like, maybe the younger people, just like we saying, he better than Mike. Nigger, older people going to say, no, nigga, it'd go. Mike then Kobe, which is respectable.

I'm not going to argue with it if he say that. But my goal, you feel me. It's Kobe, bro. All the way. Even when we was trash, 06, Kwami Brown. Yep, Kwami Brown. Quimmy Brown. Come on.

Come on, bro. Niggas got Kobe out there with Kwame. Like, stop. And Kwame Brown and shit. Hey, Sasha Vujic. It's the best second player on the team. Bro, what? He had Jimmy, though.

He did. He had jumper. He the best second player. He had jumper. We can't win no rings. Nigger with Sasha and Kwami. Come on, bro. That's when niggas deserted us.

Yep. Noghers deserted us. You was with us through the time. Hell yeah. What? That's my God. You'd have thought I was from L.A., I'm talking about.

I'm talking about then we get. We, Andrew Bynum, Paul Gassol, and Marrott, Ed Fisher. It changed. It changed. What? What? He was back. He was back.

Fisher came back. Come on, bro. Gassal came. Bindon was still a boy. Bro, we had, at the time, we had Trevor Areza. And I remember this one game specific, Trevor Arisa did this crazy-ass dunk. And I think, was it when we took the chip or when we went to the champion? I don't know.

But he did this crazy-ass dunk, and he did an interview on it. And he was like, I felt like my brother's spirit was there with me when I feel me. And it's crazy, right? because I just seen Trevor Areeze at Rolling Loud. That's crazy. But I wasn't trying to be on though fan. I was shit.

He was with his lady and shit too, but I wanted to take a picture with the nigga like, bro, I was watching you, when you played with Kobe, you, feel me? Like, bro, back in them days, bro, it was crazy, bro. Do you feel like, nigga Kobe, like inspired you?

Like, like, like, all the way. In what ways Kobe inspired you, bro? I was in elementary school. I was in like fourth grade, third grade and shit. Talking about some Kobe the best because his work ethic. Cause that's me it's his work ethic he didn't green in the morning bro what nigger and I don't at the time I don't really even know what the fuck of work as a

kid I just know it's something good and they got to do with him going oh are you I'm saying pause but like I don't know what the f*** you know what I'm saying so I'm like bro it was so crazy bro I wrote a whole composition book on Kobe life like I listened to it on the thing and wrote it down and was just reading and shit it was it was inspiring you feel me facts how to go from Italy here don't speak English bro you feel I mean and he got to figure it out You feel me? Nigger played

Nika played soccer And then on the court Nika him and saw When him and Paul Gassau used to run the picks Spanish Spanish No What

What? What Nigger that Bro, if that's not a goat I don't know what it is I don't know what it is bro I don't know what it is Oh my mama bro

He taught me how to like He taught me how to like Really go for it Like tunnel vision Nika if you want that shit Go get it Fem me work harder than others Always

never let up you know I'm saying like niggas stay resilient like and really you know saying stay focused type shit like at the guy away talent that's what that nigga taught me yes sir work at the guy way talent any time you can be talented to this but if you don't put some work in talent go squander it don't it don't mean shit and be obsessed with what you do you feel me because if you nod it ain't going who else gonna be yeah if you don't go a fash a week exactly exactly if you ain't waking up every day nigga nigga me and my manager Matt be talking about this too if you ain't waking up every day trying to do something that that elevate you in that day for something that you're choosing to do,

bro, don't do it. Facts. Don't do it. You got to be day and day out. You got to breathe that shit, bro. Breathe that shit, bro. You feel me? Like, if not, brad, that's that Mamba mentality shit for a-for-God.

That's exactly what that nigga taught me, nigga. You got to go hard. When these niggas is somewhere chilling, you got to be somewhere perfecting your crafts. Exactly. Be better than these niggas who chilling. Exactly. Because there's always going to be another nigga who be in a gym, nigga. So I got to, you know what I'm saying?

they gotta get right it's another nigga who writing music so nigga I gotta go write some shit yeah exactly exactly exactly bro exactly for me bro I be on some shit like like like I love pop music so I got I got I got some crazy melodies bro like I love melodies and shit when I do my scene you're gonna switch it up with your shit you got some shit that's coming out's completely out the box type shit yep I got hell of shit like that coming uh I just I just got to cater to what's now how did it feel nigga did you ever feel like indifferent about going in the studio and trying something completely different or was it just like this regular? Um,

because some artists have fear going out that box and trying something completely different than what they know for. Uh, to be honest, it was, it was, it was a little uncomfortable, but if you ain't uncomfortable,

you ain't elevating, but it was natural though. Like, you feel me? I did it and then I got better and better and better and better. You feel me? And then it's like, now I'm like,

you feel me with it. And, and like, for me, that's what music is about. Like, but I be seeing shit like, people be saying shit like,

bro, if you don't do music, if you don't do music your way, what's the point of it? And that's not art, right? And that's to each its own. Like, I hear so many people say that. And there's no wrong or right. But my definition of it, art is,

it's like, if you can't, if you can't cater your shit to the people that's supporting you and making you this person that you, feel me, then what's the point of doing that? Do it your way, but also you have to cater to the people that love what you do for why they love what you do. And if you could still do it like that and do it all different ways and try new shit and get find comfort and discomfort, I feel like that's what make your artist. You feel me? Like doing uncomfortable shit like pop music and you feel me, but some people's not into that.

But I'm in the all type of different shit. I want to try rock one day. Feel me? Like all type of shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like it's going to be weak as fuck. But it's just going to be fun being that motherfucker. Nick a drunk as fucking doing a rock song or some shit.

You know what I'm gonna never drop it? But the pop shit though for sure, the acoustic pop and I'm dropping that for show later on. Most definitely. You got anything you wanna do like as far as any industry that's not music like like you know what I'm saying like a movie scripts like whatever you got anything you want to do besides rap? Acting. Yeah I want to act that shit that's it seems so fun.

And like I in some of my early music videos I was doing a lot of acting in them and like even now. Treatments and shit. Yeah, treatments, you feel me? And, like, yeah, I want to do, I want to take this shit to the big screen and really act, bro. That shit fire. That shit fire. For sure. You want to, like, play a nigga like yourself or you want to do something completely different.

Like, you know, some niggas to act like Paca, go play a street nigga and then go play something else. Like, you feel me, you want to play something that's like you or you want to do something different. I want to both. I want to do all the type of shit. I want to, like, I want to challenge, challenge my. myself you feel me because shit I might be can way better acting than I ever was at music show I don't know if you try that month exactly you feel me if you if you Brett if you was in acting what if they gave you a gay role okay

they like they like this not even acting though I'm like it's too far like at the end of the day nigga I still gotta go home I still got to go home and deal with this shit you feel like hell no you feel me nigga they gotta pick certain roles because I want to act too what you feel me As long as things don't got a nigga doing okay, you shit. They're like, we got $50 million for you. You got to play this gay roll. Hell no, because, nigga, a lot of them roles,

nigga, nowadays, I feel like, but they really be like damn near doing that shit. On the under for sure. Like, they be this close. Yeah. Hell. Hell no. And what if they said,

and what if they said you got to put on a dress and a wig and shit? Bro, I felt like, nigga, that's, nigga, I feel like that's a whole last conspiracy, bro, of them putting us in dresses and shit to get a certain place. I feel like that shit crazy. I don't feel like we should have to even be doing that kind of shit you feel me to get a certain way like you know what I'm saying like that cat William shit like how you feel about that guy William shit like bro bro. Bro, bro, I feel like everybody trying to shut that nigga out for so long they try to shut him out and make it like but that thing's a drug addict that nigga bro no that nigga bro no that nigga, bro, no, that nigga, bro, no, that nigga, you know what's going on. He knows what's going on. He's seen that shit firsthand. We have been so of course with truth brother. We live in the world for the lives so the truth seems so absurd. You feel me? So a lot of that shit may be like, That's a quote.

Oh, mom's, bro. That's quotable, no cap. You feel me? Like, like a lot of that shit

going to seem absurd because it's what's really going on and we can't, you know? But like, nigga, bro, that shit was crazy.

Like, I agree with a lot of the shit he was saying, like, because I used to look up conspiracies and certain shit, you feel me?

And I never really know if it was true, but when people clarify that shit that I've been there firsthand, it's like, even with the ditty shit

that's going on. It's like, I bet knew they was doing that shit. I've been saying that he was freaky. That's the freakos. You are watching it. Freaky-ass-ha-what? It's happening, bro.

It's crazy. I'm telling you, bro. Shit, real, nigga. Yeah, that shit crazy, bro. Hey, no cap, though. But, man, hey, nigga, with slow it down being so big, do you feel like it's any pressure

with coming with something next? Or, like, do you feel that at all? A little bit, but I ain't going to sit here in cap. Like, a little bit. I feel the pressure. You feel me? as far as like, as like, bro, like, I know the guy, I get another way. It's going to change my life.

But then again, I didn't handle that pressure. Yeah. I love music, bro. I don't care, bro. Like, this shit ain't, like, I wasn't here last year. You feel me? Like, if I did it once, I could do it again, but that's not my focus. I'm not trying to get a hit.

You feel me? Like, I'm not, I'm not hit chasing. You get what I'm saying? That's the easiest way to fuck up. You feel me? And play yourself out your position is hit chase. Now you're making irregular shit that's, you feel. me you're chasing it yeah you're chasing it you'm saying so really for me i be i'm my i'm my

biggest critic we all are our biggest critics but like for me bro i just i stay away from that shit i don't even pay attention to to get another hit i just be on some shit like i do what feel good bro you know what i'm saying that's really how i deal with it just doing it just just do it every day nigga don't even focus on no bro i need a hit bro i know i need i need to make 10 songs this week niggins 10 songs i make 10 songs nigg one of them i don't be a hit for show i I need 10 songs this week and then we gonna see what we come up with. Next week, we're doing it all over again. That's what, you feel.

You feel like? Hell yeah. No cap, bro. Hey, what you got next, bro? What you got coming next, man? You feel me as far as you feel me like, what you got going on, bro? Mix tapes, music, a collaboration, video shows. What you got coming, bro?

I got a lot of shows coming up. Shit, to be honest, I got my first, my first headlining show, June 21st at the Catalyst in Santa Cruz. and I got hell of other shit coming up I got a lot of new music coming up for me a lot of features you know saying we're working bro

can you reveal any any sneak peek feature can a nigga get one up here an exclusive uh nah I had to try you feel me

you got to get us exclusive man I tried y'all no cow man what if the they're coming they're coming bro they're coming bro they're coming

bro. You know what I'm saying? Nah, bro, nigga, I have to ask you, man. No cap, you feel, me, nigga. How often do you be coming down here? Every week, bro. Yeah? My family'd be like, bro, you'd be gone. Gone, gone. Even when I'm home, I'm not home.

I'm still moving around, feel me? So, like, nigga, every week, bro, I'm out here for, like, three, four days at a time and shit, then I drive back. Sometimes I come same date, and I turn around and go back. Feel me? So, like, nigga, be on the road. nigga be this second home but I'm about to get a spot down here bro you got to mandatory it's the hub but the music man you got to you feel me LA networking how you feel like your networking

skills is bro and do you feel like you got to get better at them at all uh or do you even care for that kind of shit like do you even give a f***ing network with these nigg uh honestly no I don't but I know it's what come with this shit facts I know it's what come with the shit but nigga ain't never got to worry about me faking the phone 42 faking because I'm never gonna I'm not trying to network hard, so if I do, you know it's genuine type shit. Oh, I'm mom's, you feel me? And I feel like if anything may be my downfall, it might,

nothing is going to be the downfall, but it might be that. Just because, bro, I'm in my box. I don't like the fake shit. It made me feel weird internally, you feel me? So, like, you know, if a nigga cool, if he ain't, and, you know, like, I didn't been around certain big names, and I don't even say nothing. Just because, like, I don't feel the energy, you feel me?

So it's like, it's cool. Like, you will see me soon and want to lock in. That's how it always happened. But I feel like I feel like I'm good, bro. I'm a social person. You feel me with everybody, all cultures, bro. So I feel like the networking thing is easy for me. But it's just a matter if I, if I'm on that and I choose to, you know what I'm saying?

If a nigga cool. Facts. On God, bro. Before we get up out of here, nigga, who do you feel like, nigga, who do you feel like a live were dead you feel me if you could have a collaboration with you feel me you'll try to get with a Lara did mm-hmm to be honest I got one more question before this one I mean after this one yep to be honest bro I need that I need that uh Rye wave feature you want to get them on your type shit or you want to hop on his type shit uh both bruh both I want to intertwine the two

but like I could I could be on his type of shit too though but I feel like I feel like I feel like I want to like I want him to be on his type of shit but me to still be able to get on a beat and because you know he do uptempo shit too you feel me like up tempo singing shit so I feel like if we got on some shit like that but I love soulful music though so I don't know bro I just I feel like if we got in that motherfucking cooked it it'd come out great feel me also killer roy too bro I want to do some shit with killer roy too that's fire bro yeah my other question is do you got any advice for upbecoming rappers you feel me or any advice for rappers you feel me on how to keep their hair straight or just any if I start out what you would tell

not that what you would tell niggia yourself nigga five eight years ago you feel me something like that what you'll tell yourself you feel me to get you here yeah um I would tell myself like bruh stay consistent um find a solid genuine team where you don't got a question if a nigger envious of you or you don't got a question if a nigga all in with this shit Feel me? Find a genuine solid team Where everybody play their position and y'all got a common goal And they know that your win is they win Find a solid team

Stay consistent And have a structure Hell yeah As simple as possible Stay consistent, have a structure And find a solid team A dream team Feel me?

Lakers back in 2009 Feel me, 2010 Yeah, come on Find a solid team Hell yeah, bro Hey, tell the people where they can find you bro before you get up out of here Oh man, you can find me on every social media at John underscore M-A-C-K-K-F-M-A-K, feel me?

Tap in with me, man, let's get it going, you know? Hell yeah, you feel me. We got another one up here, man. I'm almighty, you feel me, you brought John Mack through, you feel me, and there's no jumper, bro. We apply out of here. Yes, sir.