No Jumper - Joker305 on GTA6 Stealing his Identity, Boonk Beef, Saying the N Word & More

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

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No jumper, coolest podcast in the world, and today I'm bringing you a fascinating journey into the mind of the one and only, Joker. How you doing, Joker? Doing good in you, sir. Doing pretty good. Can't complain. First time out in L.A. in a while? I was here last month for Thanksgiving weekend. Oh, really? Okay.

So how's life going these days? Talk to me. It's going all right. I'm going slow. Slow. Yeah, it's been slow. Okay, for sure. So, okay, tell us a little bit about your upbringing out there in Florida. Upbringing. My mom's Peruvian and my dad's Irish. And I was born in New York and we moved there when I was a year old. You moved to Florida when you were a year old. Yes. And what was life like growing up out in Florida?

A lot of people call me like green gold because I look white, so a lot of people didn't think I was Hispanic and stuff. They met my mom and my brother and my sisters because they could speak Spanish fluly. I can't. Interesting. Okay. So did you fit in? Were there white kids around? No.

Most of all my friends were Hispanic from like different parts of the country. Really? Okay. So did you grow up in a rough area or was it a decent set? The middle class neighborhood. Okay. So were you getting in trouble at a young age or anything like that? Not really.

More as a adult. Okay. With the law type stuff. Interesting. So, yeah, because I feel like a lot of people, they see the way you present yourself and everything, and they seem like they think that there must have been some kind of like childhood trauma going on. Nah. I came from a good family.

I just chose wrong in my own and hang out with the wrong crowd, you know. Miami's a different culture, different world. Right. So what kind of kid were you throughout high school? I ain't going to high school. I dropped out in the middle of eighth grade. Okay. Why'd you drop out?

I was just hanging out on the streets with my friends and stuff like that, smoking pot, drinking. I ain't like school, to be honest. Just didn't work for you. You're always into partying? Yeah. Who got you in the partying? My best friend in Miami.

He was from Honduras. And what did you start off with alcohol? I started off a weed, then I started doing coke at 14 years old, a little Havana. You got an addictive personality? Yeah. So you started and then just started going crazy? Yeah, type stuff, yeah. Got it.

Okay, so what, you didn't make it to high school, but like, what were you doing all throughout your teens and, like, early 20s and stuff before you? Like I'm trying to kind of flesh out the whole like pre-joker era of your life. I was doing a lot of Xanax, smoking a lot of weed, drinking a lot, doing a lot of coke, just party at the house, party at house parties. Doing a lot of Miami stuff, tagging up, doing like graffiti, robbing, like doing a lot of the length and stuff. We getting arrested? Nah, as a teenager. Only once for pot. Okay. And so you started tattooing your face because your girl got an abortion?

It started with a tear drive of the cross. My best friend got murdered in 2014, Orlando, Florida. Oh, right. You got shot 20 times? Yeah. So I started with the tear driving across. Who was that guy? Like, how close to friends were you?

It was my best friend for like 10 years. And it was just a drug deal gone wrong? Yeah. Case done. Damn. So that made you change as a person? That put me in the dark depression. Then I met my ex-fiancee before that, I mean, after it happened.

And she attacked me with a machete. She had a boy who made on my back. I got kicked out my house. So that's when I started doing the whole joke of persona. Why did she attack you with a machete? Because I went through her phone. I found out she was cheating on me when I was out working as a sign holder. Oh, yeah, because you were one of those guys spinning the sign around, huh?

Yeah, from a solid jemvy. How was that? I've always wondered what that would be like. It was the only job I was able to get. It was helping paint the bills, you know. I helped pay the lawyer, commissary for my girl and stuff. Plus, I was selling drugs on the side. So you're out there holding the sign,

and I'm assuming you're just sweating your ass off in the hot Florida sun? Because it made me wear, like, that party onceie, like Barney's suit thing, like you can't even see nothing out of the eyes or nothing. So, yeah. People ever throw shit at you? Nah, hell not. People looked at me weird, but then I took my mask off and sorted my tattoos on the leg. Wow, okay.

But you were paying for her lawyer even after she attacked you? Yeah, I still had to pay for some of her lawyer and her bond. Did you call the cops on her? No. She ain't got in trouble for her. I ain't called the cops or not. I just, the cops came to the hospital. I just told them I got attacked by the train tracks because I lived right by a gas station by the train tracks.

So I said I just got mugged by a group of people. Okay. And so that, like, when did the abortion thing come about? How does she tell you about that in relationship to the fight and whatnot? I have it like towards the end of the relationship. She found out she was praying and she had abortion beyond my back and stuff. And you're really opposed to abortion? Yeah, because I really want, you know, I really loved her. I wanted a kid with her. She was clothing in Puerto Rican.

Right. And so she doesn't have the kid in, So what did that do to you mentally, finding out that she got rid of it? It made me become a real bad alcoholic for like, I just got off of drinking like a year ago type of shit. Because it put me in a bad, bad place, you know? Right. And so you just started getting your face tattooed after that. What was it? Like, what were you trying to accomplish with the tattoo?

I was trying to forget how I looked like when I was with her. You know, I wanted to forget it like completely. So then I watched the, I got into the joke again. character but killing the Joker like I related to his character he lost his family lost everything one bad day can make the most sane man lose his mind so I lost my mind took this whole joker character really took it serious I was ready to die really like I was ready to crash out in 2017 to like 2019 20 you know right but I mean the joker when I think about the joker he's someone who yeah he went through this childhood trauma he lost his family and everything but then ultimately he

took that anger and used it to basically terrorized shitloads of innocent people and he's almost like a terrorist like you know just like waging war against all these citizens I'm a different one I want to like I gravitate more

to people like with addiction went to stuff like I went through and I tried to like help them get through depression like suicide and all that stuff you know I've been there done that yeah because the unrealistic part about the Joker is the idea that he could get away with all this

for so long without getting arrested or murdered. Yeah. You ever want to, like, rob a bank just to see how the Joker feels? Sometimes I think about it, yeah. Interesting. But was the face, was it a

gradual thing? Because, like, I've seen you getting this thing, like the border that you got recently. That's from, like, the Joker 52. That's like my, I cut someone else's face off and put it on my... face. Like I had a whole, I had a whole plan. Even when I got my first smile, people were saying, oh, you're ripping off stitches. So right after that, I had to black my eyes out. And then this

Eric and came together with my tattoo artist tattoo, bam, bam. We completed a whole look within a year and a half. Were you ripping off stitches? No. My smile was actually from a Joker painting that I saw from Instagram. It's crazy that there's multiple people from Florida that had the same crazy idea to get, you know, these things tattooed under their face. I was fully face tattooing the whole cloud era in 2017. That's when I was first popping when Little Pump was popping,

the X-30 song, like Little Pump was touching the middle, 6-9 just touches the middle. I just touched 110,000 at the time. Right. So, like, my name was really popping in 2017. Stitches was popping in, like, 2013, if I had to guess. He's from the same area out from Miami. We're from Kendall.

You ever run into him? Never ran into him? I ran into straight cash before a South Beach. Okay. Do you feel like with stitches, like, if you saw him, would it be bad blood? Like, have you said bad things about him publicly? No, I mean, we had early. I mean, when I first blew it, I said I was a king of Miami.

He faced timing before, but, like, we never had bad blood with each other publicly at all. Okay. Interesting. Would you ever a big fan of his music, though? Yeah. I put that brick in your face. That was a great era Yeah, it was

That was like 2011, 12 Which right 13 Yeah, something like that And then my boy Wack 100 BOW! Knocked his ass out That's when we all found out about Wack

I hate that it had to be stitches But It ain't my homie I just I know someone that knows and that's it Right Definitely Um

Okay so You do How long did you have the face test before you started to get noticed and go viral online. I mean, I was going viral even then, but I started getting, my mugshot made World Star Hip-Up, but they ain't tagged me. So that's why I got, uh, world star hip-hop. And then the first video they tagged me on was me listening to Chris Brown's song,

jamming to Chris Brown's song in the van and then TIA even comment on the video, say, oh, this is the real light Joker, jamming to Chris Brown, wearing a seatbook of the fuck out of here. Yeah, like three million views. 17,000 comments. Like, that's the second time they post me and they actually tagged me. And then my Instagram blew up.

And then Boogang started saying he's a black joker and all this and that. And then I responded to one video here. And then the internet just blew up. That's when World started posting me, tagged me. And then that's how I like...

So during the whole Boone Gang arc, that was what kind of really got people to start following you and everything like that? Yeah. We were locked. up in the same jail in Miami. Not in the same show, but we're in the same process. So you were seeing each other in a kid or no? I ain't seen him, but he had to see me

because he mentioned in the video we weren't locked up in the same county and I did two and two in the gutter. He got locked. I guess it was the time that he robbed up of donuts. I got locked up for the gun charge. So he had to see him in the same process floor, same holding floor. And I already had my full face test. So I felt like he was trying to rob my

Joker's swag, my Joker identity. But so you were already on World Star. before you got arrested and had the mugshot go viral? No. Oh, the mugshot started at all. It started, like, people started seeing me on, like, big platforms and news covering me, but my Instagram didn't get tagged. I was still at 3,000 followers.

Okay, but then the mugshot really took it to another level. Or the mugshot got the ball rolling, but then World Star Post and I took another level. Got it started. So what, like, what is your relationship with Bunk or John Gabana, as he wants to be known now? Fuck a Boone gang I don't like him What is it that you don't like about him You're writing this mouth too much about me

And at the time I was firing the case So I couldn't really travel or do nothing You know What would you have done? Oh be as us I had a lot of I did a lot of interviews with Bunk And

I saw a lot of different versions of them I kind of saw like the normal, naive Like timid early on version of him and then I saw the super drugged up version that smacked his head on the wall. I seen that interview. During the interview, a pretty epic moment regardless of whether I wanted that to come

out or not. It was during a live stream, so I didn't really have much choice. But then like a couple years ago, I went out to Florida and saw him do a boxing match against Supreme Patty. Yeah. And when I interviewed him during that,

he was just talking about Jesus and nonstop, like the only thing that he wanted to talk about was Jesus. So I guess he turned his life around to some extent. I'm personally not religious, so it didn't really do a whole lot for me. But I mean, that's his whole thing now.

I think he was dating Woviki at a certain point. That was kind of like another arc. I would love to have a fight with him in a boxing match because I used to do boxing in Miami before this whole joke, if you're something. Right. Do you think you got a chance against him? You think you'd fuck him up? Three months a trainer, I'll knock his house. I'm

not going to lie. I saw him kind of wipe the floor Supreme Patty. And I'll fight Supreme too because Supreme Patty knows about me. All the big people know about me. I just been blackballed in this industry for, you know, a while. Why you feel blackballed?

Because I helped a lot of people in this industry. Like the island boys, I discovered their first manager, Big Back Chico did the kidnap Red. That was my... Chico, the guy who kidnapped, Red, yes. He's from Miami. I know him. The Big Bloods, Sex Money Murder.

I don't know about that. That's what he was saying in all those videos and stuff. I'm not saying. It's true. I'm just saying that's what he was saying, because he's the one who turned the island was in the bloods. Yeah. Damn, how'd you know him?

My friend knew him, and then I made him on my Instagram, but the relationship with him, and then he told him, he's like, I want to manage you in the Island Boys, so then I was friends with, you know, flying red on Instagrams. I don't want to found them on my IG,

school them to this whole live thing, doing promos. Like, once you have certain my followers, you start charging for live promos, story promos, page promos. It's like, you know, it's all over Instagram. I'm in YouTube. I beef with them heavy.

Yeah. So then I told you, this guy wanted to work out with you. The next day they black me all the deal, and they go fly to North Carolina go work with buddy. Really? So they kind of cut you out of it? They didn't want you to be part of it? Yes. Do you think that the island boys are shing people overall?

Yeah. Yeah, now I got something. My name's starting to blow up. You know, I made a blogs for like almost two weeks straight. They were talking to him. TikTok, they're like, oh, tell Joe Jar again his flowers and stuff, but they just doing that because they know I'm like, I'm going to be

a threat to them on TikTok once I know how to master it. Really? Yeah. I mean, they've gotten about as much publicity over the last year or two as you can imagine, but it's almost exclusively bad stuff, right? Yeah, since they did that, weird well, yeah, that's all anybody wants to talk

about now is them making out with each other. Their cloud is dying out little by little. Oh, it was already so bad, but then they like, that's the crazy shit about them, that they have this last ditch effort blast of attempt to get viral content by making out with each other. And it's just like the number one thing that nobody could imagine doing is making out with their brother. I lost respect. I gave them their flowers.

I'm like, yo, you're the only ones that actually really blew up out this IG stuff from the whole community of, you know, everybody. You know, they did. I can't hate on that. They did blow up. They made money. But they're not doing the right stuff with it. That's my honest opinion on it. Oh, yeah.

To say the least. Those dudes are fucked. Yeah. They're living for the moment, not for the long run. I don't even really know what to say about them, because it's not like they really had much potential in the first place, but they just totally mismanaged whatever potential they did have. But I guess you can't really blame them because, honestly, they're basically retarded.

Yeah. That's 100. Like, you can take any random dude off the street, and I guarantee they're a genius compared to those dudes. Like those dudes are fraud. They lost their street respect.

They can't go out nowhere. Like, I live in the hood in St. Petersburg and Southside St. Pete, you know? In no way. I go out anywhere. People aren't trying to see the island boys. Sue them? See?

People aren't trying to see them? Hmm, about that. They're not popular around town. Nobody wants to see them. They got harassed anywhere they go. It's too bad. How, just to throw it back earlier, how long did you actually sell drugs for? How serious did you get with that shit?

I started my teens. Sold a lot of, like, regs. And then in my earlier 20s, I sold a lot of, like, percocets, lean, and weed and stuff like that. Middleman from my homeboy. He's received packs from Cali to Florida, I mean, to Miami. You have to leave that alone at a certain point? Stop doing it? Yeah.

Yeah, once I lost my crew, because I got kicked out once I caught, I caught domestic violence against my girl, my ex-fiance, because she said I beat her up. What was her name, Tina? Jessica. Oh, so this was earlier? The more recent girlfriend was Tina, right? Oh, no, no, y'all, y'all talking about, I think y'all talking about our girl Tiny. There you go, tiny, yeah.

Yeah, you're talking about a girl that kind of looked like Celine Paul. Yeah, yeah, I can see that. Yeah, yeah. You ever fuck Selena Powell? What I or did you? No, I never met her. Damn, that would be crazy. You should totally fuck Selena Powell. I set it up. You ever think about doing porn? That's what baby alien did with his cloud. My girl killed him, but yeah, I thought about it. Yeah, leave your girl.

What kind of like, you think you could make it in the porn industry? For sure. Damn, you got any videos on your phone? I got to see how you put it down. I used to my own Pornhub account. I deleted it. Okay. Because I was talking to Baby Alien the other day.

And like as soon as he blew up, baby funny. Boom. Starts the only fans. He's banging chicks in the fan bus. Yeah, so he's from Miami too, I think. He's from Puerto Rico and they moved to Florida. The whole mean cool. Yeah, like, just the fact that he got popping and was just like,

fucking I'm going to start our only fans, which like kind of mind blowing to me. I'm like, holy shit. Like, start putting it down. She's like a little guy You know, just a little dude He's out here banging I watched him bang two chicks in that van Oh shit

It was fucked Um Okay So Yeah like once you start Getting your your cloud up From the whole boom gang thing Or whatever

Like what do you start Doing with it Like what What kind of moves Do you kind of try to make around that time To like use your newfound cloud I really kind of do nothing What it goes

I was fine gun charge case. I was going back from Tampa to Miami and I finally helped on probation on February 15 of 2018. I got out February 15, 2020. Then I got re-contact with Andrew from Channel 5 because that's my boy. Right, because he interviewed you back in the day, right? He interviewed me like three, four times. I actually came out his documentary. This place rules. I was in that. Right. And I was just slowly working little gigs here, little gigs there. And I just stayed a local, like, legend, south-side St. Pete in the hood. That's it.

And I got to take to the drink and let my career just fall off, lost my manager. Kind of gave up on life. Gave up on myself. Gave up on a lot of things because I lived by myself. I just had my pits, you know. My dog just died, like a year ago. So now I'm just like I was rebuilding myself even before this whole

GTA thing happened but this GTA thing happened I guess it was like a hurdle a lot of win for me You know it's a blessing in the sky You know so I'm gonna take advantage of everything Now I'm able to travel I don't have my dogs That's fine I moved out of a shitty house So no running water you know

Really bad trap house living in a beautiful house now So just learning how to love myself again Bring myself out there I fell in love with Cali This came back last month from Big Bear. I love Big Bear. Hope to live there one day. Yeah, because, okay, I've seen

this documentary about you that came out like... They actually came out again. Yesterday. Yeah, yesterday. When I searched up your name, that came up. And I'm like, holy shit, there's a 45-minute documentary that came out about you yesterday. And I wasn't planning on the whole thing,

but when I started watching it, I was just, like, hooked because it's got crazy footage in there. It's like really breaks down your whole life. My earlier career from 2017 to 2019. That's what that was? That's not recent footage? No, that's old. That's from a real well-known guy, Ben Carey he produced for like shot videos for Kim Kardashian, A's Rocky. Like, you can check his Instagram, like his resume speaks for it. So he's really,

really big in the film crew, stuff like that. Okay. And what led to him shooting the documentary about you? He's somebody to hit me up when I had only 3,500 followers. But at the time, I was like There's no point of someone shooting the documentary with me. So after the whole Boot Gangs feed from the World Star stuff, he DM me again. He's like, yeah, I really want to shoot a documentary of you. So I said, show me his camera. Show me a camera. He has like $100,000 camera.

He says, yeah. So he came out in 2017 and came out like two, three times, 2017, like two or three times, 18, and like two times in 2019. They actually played a premiere of it in Miami, Florida at a movie festival. I wasn't able to go to it because I was on probation but my tattooers went and it is something to have been on the work for like the last four or five years a lot of people thought I was fake because every time

he told me it's going to drive, it's going to drop and never did so like he's seen what was happening with the blogs, my name is speaking of so I'm like I was like yo now's the time so he finally did it right no yeah that I'm not going to lie though that

that documentary was fucking depressing like do you think that your life has gotten more or less depressing since that documentary? I mean, it's something I battle with. I'm not going to lie, but it has gotten way better. I'm not all the way through the tunnel. I'm seeing light through the tunnel more than I was before.

That's for sure. Right, yeah. It's just it paints a picture of what it must be like to be viral for something that realistically, like, you know, it's understandable why it was viral, but it felt like the shelf life of it was relatively

short. And then meanwhile, you're just sort of left trying to make sense of it or trying to like figure out what you can do with what you have, but it's kind of unclear what makes sense to do being someone who's got like this recognizable face but doesn't really know what to do with the notoriety, right? Yeah, because it could pitch in a happy place or you could pitch in a real dark place like me.

It put me in a dark place and, you know, I wanted to kill myself or slowly killing myself. I wanted those times I wanted to die You know Cut everybody out You know And that's what like Cloud could do

That's what Fame could do You could make you a break You know I'm just glad I got out of it Like when I came to Cali last move I didn't care about Cloud I didn't care about being all this

I was starting like to feel normal again You know Being in the airport Nobody recognized me Now like I'm getting like harassed People recognize me again Like Just because you made this round in the blogs because of the GTA 6 thing.

And then everybody's reading knowing who I am again. Oh, that's the GTA Joker. That's the Florida Joker. Oh, he used to be people bunk. So everybody's like regained to know me. And all the old school fans that knew me are gained contact with me again. Right. Yeah, that actually makes sense that you said that it was filmed back then.

Because like when the footage of you like walking around like in the sort of downtown area by the bars and stuff, it's like people are just. like, I follow this guy on Instagram and shit like that. And it was kind of weird because I'm thinking like, I don't know. It's like that kind of makes more sense for like 2017, 2018 time period. I was making where I saw like every other day. Right. I made world saw like over 30 times.

That's why I met longneck too. I school longneck in the game too. I met longneck when you only had like 37,000 followers. Shut a longneck. Yeah, shut out long neck. So many weird characters we've had over the years, long neck, wide neck. I talked to Weineck a few times He went viral when I got arrested in 2018

Our muckshops were compared to the truth Right Florida man Yeah because he's from Pensacola right Yeah And Boone from Jacksonville Duval County That's crazy

To Boone narrowly avoided the Jacksonville gang war He kind of got out of there before that shit took over Yeah Jacksonville crowd never go there I got no business going there Right Fulio was just in here telling me definitely don't go there. I'm not going there.

I remember going there as a kid. St. Pete's bad enough, and Miami's bad enough. But I'm mostly St. Pete, though, because I haven't lived to Miami in seven years. Really? Yeah. Why, do you think this is bad energy out there,

or what? People hate. I mean, I got a lot of homeboys out there, a lot of Zos, a lot of Cuban homies, you know, I grew up out there. So a lot of people still love me, but a lot of people envy. If you're doing better than, uh...

Yeah, how often do people troll you or, like, fuck with you in real life? Never. I never have no. I feel like you in like a late night bar scenario, you could definitely have some meathead, just want to attack you or some shit. No, don't get me wrong. It's mostly like the dumb, white college people.

Exactly. Some people might make a joke, record with their phones, but they're not doing nothing. Like in Florida, when I leave my house, I carry my Glock 17. And you're allowed to carry it. I got withhold of justification. I ain't get convicted.

So technically, yeah, I'm allowed to carry in Florida with a new Florida law. So when I rally in my crib, I carry. But that gun charge you caught before, why did you get that charge? Because I ain't have a permit to carry. It was illegally purchased. Oh. But I completed my probation and stuff like that. So I ain't get convicted.

Right. You know that house that you're staying in in the documentary? Yeah. What was the rent on that house? Back then when I first moved there in, 2017. I'm just curious like how much is it was 980 when I first moved in 2017 then it's like

jumped to like 1050 when I moved out of it this year it was he was charging with 1040 no I mean 1400 but so they're charging you a thousand a month and there's no running water yeah I mean he didn't know that was

no running water that's me that seems fucked up like no running water and no hope of running water or like it just needed to be fixed When I shot the dog made, it was running water. Oh, it was just, it was like, it was from like 20, 21 to like almost 20, 22 type of shit. You still smoking cigarettes?

Yeah. Like, in that documentary, I feel like you're smoking a cigarette during every scene. I smoke a cigarette, like, every few minutes. Yeah, that's crazy. How's your, your health? Can you run around the block? I mean, my cardio's not that good. I actually went to the house for it.

My heart's good. Everything's good. I actually got, I just pulled a chest muscle. It's got to be expensive smoking that many sigs. I mean, I bought, this and be in California for two days, I spend like almost 100 bucks. God, damn.

It was on tobacco. Like, cigarettes almost like 70, 80. How many packs a day? At least two. Damn. I got another homie who smokes three packs a day. So the fact that he smokes more than you is kind of crazy. But if I'm drunk.

If I get drunk, I can smoke three. Oh, yeah. When you get drunk, those things just start. evaporating your hand with it. You still drink a lot? Not like I used to, nothing like that. I might have two twisted teas a day. Back then I was drinking,

oof, a lot, because I was on probation, so I couldn't smoke. I violated. First eight months of being on probation, I violated for pissing dirty and getting kicked out my psych program because the state of Florida made me see a psych doctor, plus do therapy because my whole joker person, I thought I was crazy.

Really? They thought, like, they weren't willing to accept that it was just a character? No. I get locked up for anything of Florida. That shit's making the news. Yeah, I guess that is kind of the interesting thing about you is that you have this insane look,

but then your personality is not exactly, you know, it's not like jumping out of your skin, like the real joker or anything. You're actually like super humble and chill. People approach me. You know, I do get an angle problem, but usually I'm just a chill. I was a person, just want to smoke,

weed, drink, and buy with cool people. I'm not looking for trouble, but at the same time, I'm not running from it. I'm not scared of it. I don't know that. I respect everybody. Because I feel like your content in terms of, like, making Instagram videos and shit like that. Like, what the people probably want from you is for you to be,

I'm the Joker. Like, jumping out of your fucking skin wearing crazy outfits running around on camera and stuff. And they're not really like getting that from you for the most part. I'm going to start doing that again, but we're going to be more like smart with it, more direct about it and we're going to put more production and I'm like, they already seem so much of me going crazy in my

house like what they want to see is me out in public. They want that public reaction, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to get back to doing skids, Joker's stuff. I'm going to get some nice outfits and stuff like that. You should jump out and scare people. We're going to do that.

I could imagine you're scaring the shit out of people, like realistically. I mean, every time I cross the street, people are just staring to find me like it's it's crazy but I know what I got myself into before I even got the tattoos yeah you're like basically you know like people will complain about you know like minorities and stuff will complain about I go to the liquor store and they're fucking watching me you know you sort of like took yourself from being like a relatively normal looking guy to being like oh I'm going to make it so that everywhere I go people have to like be freaked out by me scared

to me, et cetera. Like, you kind of put yourself into that box. I've felt that way at times with, like, the tattoos of like, oh, now that I have a bunch of tattoos, I noticed, like, people are kind of looking at me in the store and shit. You got to judge that. But you took it to a whole different level. Yes. Do you resent that at all that, you know, you can't go anywhere without people staring at you?

I mean, I can't even walk the street while people are staring at me, but it don't bother me. That people stare at me. Look. I mean, a lot of people think it's fake. A lot of people think it's makeup. actually. And that's, I haven't done nothing to it since 2019. All this is old.

I'm actually going to get my whole face re-blasted white because I wanted to really, really pop out more. So what, like the parts that look like there's no tattoos have actually been tattooed white? Yeah, my whole face went blasted white. It's faded. My nose, everything. Besides that, we're the hot and that,

but even all that, everything's all blasted white. One thing I've kind of seen people say about it, you is basically that it wasn't that hard to go viral for just having a crazy-ass face tattoo in like seven in 2017 2018 whatever but nowadays the standard for going viral is quite a bit harder it's a bit higher like it just takes a lot more to get people to really pay attention do you feel that you feel like you were this person that nobody could look away from at a certain point and then as time goes by it's like well you have the island boys and they got crazy face tattoos but then they're also making out with each other and all this other shit.

I mean, it can help you and that. You know, it definitely brings more attraction towards you, but it all depends what kind of tattoos you got on your face, too. Yeah, I mean, you probably have, like, some of the most viral face tattoos I can imagine.

Like, even the Island Boys, their face tattoos look pretty fucking normal in comparison of years. When I met them, they just had a little scribble, scrabble. I used to call him Ponchry hairboard. That's where he got. That's where he got the out Like the whole direction from For Island Boy song

I used to bully him My favorite I interviewed them before they were the island boys for the record But then my favorite thing about them Is just the fact that Kodak Black Like summoned them to his mansion And then when they got there He basically convinced

Red to change his name To Kodiak Red And then proceeded to not sign them Or do any kind of business with them Which was funny They convinced him to change his name and then don't actually do any kind of business. I think that was the smartest move for cold-ed black not working on that.

He's my favorite Florida artists. I love him. Yeah. Free cold-eyed black, man. I feel like people can forgive him for doing the song with 6'9, but I don't know if he does a song with, like if he had signed the Island Boys, I don't know. It might be over for sniper gang.

I don't know. That's for sure. Damn, that's hard. That's crazy to think that the Island Boys could just like take down the greatest Florida rapper of all time. They're too cocky. They'll be for too many people. Should I say that?

Codick Black, greatest Florida rapper of all time? I'm just going to say it. Besides Trick Daddy and... Yeah, Trick Daddy, cool, but... He's not the greatest, but... Kodak's kind of had like a 10, 15-year run of being right there at the top of the pile.

I know, it's a long run. I give it a Codac. I think Codac, like, the top. I like Rick Ross, but... Ross. But I feel like Codac's had a longer run. I like 50. morning, Ross.

I'm sorry. Me too, but that's New York shit. Okay. So, what is your thought process on the N-word? I mean, Miami? All right. I hear y'all say essays.

Miami. Anybody Hispanic is a Chico. So the Chico's and blacks out there get along, and everybody Miami says that where it's like, it's like second nature of hand to that can mean we could be referring to a girl, a guy, or anybody.

It's just the way people talk out there. But in St. Pete, we don't talk like that in St. Pete. Really? You get your ass beat up or... So black people in St. Pete don't accept Mexicans or Hispanic people using it? I mean, St. P. Wiley is mostly... It's a black neighborhood. It's not really that many Hispanics.

You got across the bridge to go to, like, the Tampa area. I don't know how they get down there, but mostly in St. Pete. No, you can't really say that. unless you're like, you're black or you're cool with the people out there. But Miami, everybody says it's white people, Hispanic people. It's just, Miami's a different culture. It's crazy because, like, nobody's going to give you credit for being Hispanic because of the face tattoos.

They just kind of assume that you're white under all that, right? Yeah, but I was raised by my mom's side and her people. I spoke Spanish. I was five years old, but I grew when my dad came back in a picture, because he ain't liked it. I don't know when it came out with blonde hair, blue eyes. Just looking Irish. Did you ever have a encounter with somebody because of the N-word?

Anybody ever give you a hard time about it? In jail, yeah, once. In jail, why would what happen? Because some do-one in my phone, I said, go grab the other phone, you know? I said that, I ain't going to say the word on here. And you said, go grab the other phone inward, and then he said, what? He said, what, Cracker? what you got into the space.

Like, it's racist when someone calls me Cracker, you know, that's a racist word. But I ain't white, so I take offense sometimes. Right, people call me a Cracker. I don't really give a shit. Because my mom was Peru, and she, like,

she's from the slums to Lima, Peru. You know, she moved to New York, and she was 16 years old. Right. If I'm, like, if I was a Hispanic and somebody calls me a Cracker, I'm going to be both confused and offended, I think. Potentially. Um, okay, what, uh, what was your, what's going on with Rod Wave?

He reached out to you? Uh, he, he reached out to me before he blew up in his early state of career. Like, like, I can show you on my phone if I sign into my Instagram, but I ain't realized to like a year after the fact type stuff. I'm not at DM my, my, um, my email, but he DM, he's a young from the Burgs to from St.P, put a young brother on, blah, blah, blah. I mean, they like my music, so I gave him my email. Wow, that could have been your artist. Could, or like at one time it was bigger than him and looked at Rob right now, he big as hell. Yeah.

But we got big people from St.P. Robway, you know, obviously the biggest. We got Jimbo World and a few of St.P artists. Definitely. You consider yourself like a real advocate for Florida in general? Yeah. I discovered a lot of people, helped a lot of people. Could you ever imagine yourself running for elected office?

Nah. The mayor. But I definitely put Florida, you know, on the map, Miami, St. Pete, you know, most definitely. What was going on in the video where, so there's this guy, a Goose Wayne, who dresses like Batman. And there's a clip, which I encourage everybody to go watch, where he's basically driving up to your house, looking for a fade, and you run out into the street and punch him. through the car window while he's, well, I guess his friend is filming him. What the fuck was going on in that situation?

Why did you guys want to fight? That was supposed to be a scare, but that seemed trying to be a little real because he was cloud chasing, and he was with, he was with Swave, with his own plug guy at the time. And out of the home, yeah.

And there's just somebody that's a little scared, with and we worked on and he got he actually made it to Dr. Phil and then PewDie Pied covered them and he blew up on the stream doing like Twitch and stuff like that he's on Monkey right now he's actually

really kind of big on the underground scene doing all that stuff but so that was supposed to be a skipp but then you punched him for real? Yeah why did you do that? I was just frustrated and annoyed that he was like trolling me so it's a skit but you weren't

involved in the skit. They just thought they were making a skit. And then you said, well, fuck this. I'm going to just turn up. Yeah, he had a gun on him, too. I was afraid he was going to pop me. You know, he could have popped me. Got away with it.

Stand your ground along Florida. Yeah. That's crazy. So after you run out and punch him, what happened? He just drove away or something? No, he came back. Oh, man.

And you had to fight him? We did a fake fight in the back there. He didn't want to fight me for real. So you punched him for real, and then you work together to do a fake fight afterwards? Yes. What the fuck kind of clout shenanigans is this? Right.

It's just so far removed from what the real world is like. That was a bigger person, so he had to do it. Is he bigger than you? You think you would have won in a fair fight? Yeah. Why would he agree to do a fake fight with someone who just sucker punch? Andrew was actually my referee for a fight, but he's... I heard about that.

I didn't watch the whole thing. He sucks as a referee. He's my boy. Andrew Callahan sucks as a referee. Yeah. Let's see what Andrew Callahan has to say. Mr. Andrew. I would love to see his reaction to me being with you right now.

I bet he's going to say Joker Gang, man. A ton of read his goddamn DMs. I really hope he picks up. This will be fucking fun. This is always the best part of any podcast, is waiting to see if somebody will pick up and making the audience listen to every last ring.

Because I could totally be talking about something else right now. No. Andrew Callahan is unavailable. Well, I'm going to get out, do not disturb. Maybe I'll call back. Oh, is that I'm 22? Maybe if I send him a picture of you, he'll understand what I'm going here for here. My thumbs in the picture somehow. Oh, his notifications are silent. So I could call him again, but I'm going to avoid that. Okay.

So, yeah, why? Andrew Callahan sucked as a ref? Yeah. because the fight was supposed to be over in the first knockdown that I gave buddy I did see you knock that guy out yeah I saw that quick clip actually yeah I hit him right in the armpit ear shot

and then right back in the temple knocked them out like three times you got a lot of experience fighting I trained for like five years with like professionals and multi-fighters a lot of Cuban fighters in Miami I just never fought amateur or a pro

but I sparred a lot I got my ass whoop and that's how I learned. A lot of my boys are actually professionals right now. One of my boys is a bare knuckle fighter. He's sex and no. Out of Miami. Dude, if you were, like, fighting and doing well, that would be so viral.

Can you imagine if there was, like, a UFC fighter with face tattoos like yours? You'd be the most viral fucking dude on Earth. On YouTube, they got it wrong. They think I did MMA. I did boxing. Yeah. Like, all the YouTubers, like, call me MMA fight,

but I'm more of a... I did boxing, not MMA. But I think about getting back to it, if the bags, right? Yeah, I feel like we just need to figure out what your talent is, because, like, whatever it is. If you were doing porn, if you were a fighter, whatever, like... He rapping now. People are just going to pay attention because you look so shocking.

I do everything. We got to... I do rap. Yeah, how's the rap shit going? That was all up in the documentary. That was my older stuff. We got a new song that dropped today, actually, and the video drops 3 o'clock on Cali time.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. Like, the stuff that you were doing... doing in the video, in the documentary, it was very mumbly. Like, I feel like you gotta, like, enunciate better. I wasn't...

I wasn't... You're feeding it for a cig, already. Yes, you can. Oh, you can? Yeah, what do you smoke? Boba Reds. Dude, I want to smoke a Sig with the Joker. The production wasn't as well as the production as

I am now. Sick. Smoking a real deal of Lod Red. As I rap, as I rap, Now I'm getting more confident. Right. Yeah. I mean, I feel like a lot of rappers, more pronunciation would always be better.

We work in hard. I'm not trying to take rapping series. Yeah. I mean, if it takes up, it takes off. I really try to be more of like a tattoo model, maybe try to get into acting. But I like to get back to boxing, too, because I do love it. I'm going to be 36 next month. So I only got like two, three years left of it.

and I could probably be something, do something with it. Definitely. So speaking of the music, one of my favorite characters from the documentary was this kid, Kid Brazil. What happened to him? That's my real-life homeboy still to this day. Yeah, that's the homie. His level of passion and enthusiasm in the documentary was like, holy shit, this is what the Joker needs around him. Because he's super motivated and you're just kind of like.

He's gone through a lot, bro. You're like smoking a cigarette, looking at your phone, watching the likes come in. Like, this dude was like so passionate. I'm like, wow, I like that energy. Yeah, that's my little homeboy. He's under, he's under my wing under Joker game. Yeah, he's in Joker game. Who else was in Joker game?

That's it. Everybody's got kicked out. Really? Yeah. So just you and Kid Brazil are the only ones left? Yes, sir. Wow. Oh, yeah, that's a real Joker cigarette, right there, you know, for sure.

That's that. style marvorette Cuban cigarette Cuban smoke those out there So what was up with the The part in the documentary Where you're filming a music video And then one of your homies

Like you're on the side of a grocery store One of your homies kind of like runs away from the camera And then he's like a big black dude And then all of a sudden you just hear a bunch of shooting That was at my corner store That's because Kier Brazil's manager, his friend,

that corner store, a lot of people so dope, you know, they're chopping out that bitch. So that's why they didn't want you to film towards the front. They're already mad at me, you know, like, yo, don't point the camera so it's a store. So one of Kim Brazil's managers, his friend got in an argument with

one of the hood people, cracked dude in the head with a bottle, but he got cracked on the head with a bottle, pulled out the gun, the shot shooting out of everybody. So yeah, I scattered back on. So one of your guys, one of the people you were with, got hit? Like four or five people got hit, I think that day.

But it wasn't the dudes that you were with? My boy's manager guy got ahead, yeah. It wasn't my boy, but, yeah, it was far of our little entourage with the music video. So nobody died, though? He just got shot on the leg or something? I think he got shot in his ass. I don't think nobody that. I'll lie if someone died or not.

Yeah, you would remember someone died, hopefully. You've been around that much death Someone could have died of your video show And you just wouldn't remember A lot of people died that car in the store That's all I can say But Really?

I don't know if no one died or not. I'm not sure But people did get hit More than one How are the ladies treating you these days? I got a girlfriend So I really Don't pay attention to the ladies

I mean they're throwing themselves again Really? On TikTok on IG all the old ones that fuck they're trying to reek, you know. Rekindle the flame? Yeah.

Because that's like one of the best parts about the documentary is seeing how you're able to like get a girl's number outside the bar and then you're like getting her to like

be your video vixen and like a photo shoot type thing where she's just kind of like laying on top of you. He's a liar. Huh? She's a liar. It was not a one-night's thing.

Oh, right. The documentary match your shows he wasn't a one night so one night's thing i would have fucked her right after the bar no i met her at the bar exchange you know i got her number then the next day we did a photo shoot then the following day she came comes to a tattoo shop i fuck her and my homeboy fucks her home girl then i kept fucking her at her house because she she's like she's like a low-budget porn star because she's not a high porn star you know she did do porn so she i used to do like Some scenes were her type shit and she'll sell it.

So your content is out there. So if I follow her on OnlyFans and messenger and say, send me the Joker scenes, she's going to do it? I don't know if she has it. Still. She definitely has it. Girls hold on to that shit.

Especially OnlyFans girls, right? Like Fly's Baby Mabble was trying to link up with me when I was a Mamet last week. And he was telling me, oh, she's trying to take a picture with you, use it for only fans That's so fucking lame the girls Just want to take pictures to troll people to Cop their only fans What the fuck

It's worse than that You guys worse than that? What could be worse than that In terms of cloud chasing I don't know I mean I've seen six nine's baby Or his six nine's ex-girl saying That he was fucking academics

And that's when I really knew That these girls would say and do anything Because you know I'll shoot axe and bail And say that I don't I think he was fucking six-nines. Just seems kind of unrealistic. He called me a druggie back in 2017-18.

Well, you were at one point, right? Yeah, he called the whole state of Florida a druggie. There's some truth to that. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, Ron DeSantis, but the whole state has a bit of a drug problem. It's probably fair to say, right? Everybody on the Zans and perks. Zanz are still big out there?

I feel like the Zans kind of fell off out here. No, they're still big. Lean is still big. Perkins says are so big. I'm sure there's stuff everywhere. People discounted. They're not affordable like they were once in where back in 2014, 16, no? I used to sip a lot of lean pop perks in Miami.

Lean is a rich man's drug. Yes, sir. Like, shockingly. No, no more than ever. You could blow a million drinking lean, no problem. I could do if I had the money. Paying a couple thousand a pint, I mean, shit. Catch up to you real quick.

A lot of costs. It's awful lot. So, okay, the GTA trailer comes out or whatever, and you realize that there's this character that resembles you. I was live. I go live every day, you know, because it's an addiction. It's like my sorts of entertainment, my day, and whatever the phone, this channel, blah, blah, blah.

So I was live on Instagram one day's, and some viewer those watches, like, you'll go watch a GTA documentary, you're in it. I watched it. I came back and I'm like, you're talking. She's like, no, watch again, but watch it slowly. So then I see, you know, the dude pop out with a face tats and the drum suit. That's me.

I'm like, yo, that kind of looked like me when I got locked over the night. I just made a video. I just made a TikTok right away, Lauren Sullivan. That's why my name is that. I didn't even think of a name. Yeah. Made a video. Like, yo, that's me, blah, blah.

And then the video just blew up. yeah that's you look at the video now i got like 1.2 million views so that video blew the fuck up every video there after and all the blogs hopped on the blogs the news everybody to start covering are you really going to sue uh rock star games i mean i'm not an idiot i probably won't win it but it was a good headline i would like to work with them i would like to see that let me voiced the character. I am the most spoken character of the game

or the trailer. All the blogs say that. I gave them the most free marketing in history of GTA for the last two weeks. I feel like I deserve some type of deal with them. Some type of check. I feel like

they should talk to me and work some type of deal with me or not. I will be taking some type of legal action. I've ever had to. Submitted an email. An email. Yeah. But you haven't talked to a lawyer about it.

Not yet. I feel like Rockstar Games is probably covering their ass. Like, I feel like they probably know what they're doing. But still, it would be great to see the little guy win. I mean, because all these GTA fans, they said they're going to kill me. Oh, the GT. Yeah, they don't want them to push the game back. I mean, that would be a problem, yeah.

They probably already have a voice actor that they're committed to, to be honest. but they should definitely get you in there. How do you guys know each other? He knows. I know mutual people that he knows in real life from the same area, St. Petersburg and Miami as well. I knew about him from Facebook, but we finally met in real life in 2021.

That's what we built a relationship. He's born this day after me. We're both Capricorns, and we just built a good solid friendship. We met on live, right? He added me on live, and I had two girlfriends at the time. And they ended up trolling me and posting me everywhere. They thought it was funny that I had two girlfriends.

Because last time he was here, he was getting his dick sucked. I heard the story. I was filming it. I know the trick as well. I ain't been in a real life. I don't want to say her name because she hit me up last time. Like, don't let him say my name talking about the blowjop thing. I don't know.

But she was once from the live community of IT. All the Island Boys Girls. It's kind of funny. She was an Island Boys Girl? Yeah, I mean, she was with the other dude, the one that was doing the weird stuff. No. Adon. Oh.

Vium? No, the other one. The new one. I forget. There's so many. There's so many, right? Yeah. They recruit some more guys than girls.

It's crazy. I mean, he's getting his dick suck. I don't see why you can't do it. Oh, he gets his dick suck by his girl. But on camera, I mean. I just feel like that. That's like the way that the Joker could really... Do you want to go on Plug Talk, my porn podcast?

Let's do it. We'll find a girl. Let's set it up. I don't know if I'm going to be able to convince my wife that this is a good idea, but... Sounds cool to me. Hey, if people are paying to watch the baby alien fuck, they'll pay for the... I feel like they might pay to see the Joker, fuck.

At least once. I don't want to pressure you or anything. But it could be a good idea. Okay, so Where are you at now? What do you think is going to be the thing That's going to bring the Joker back into the public eye Obviously, the GTA arc did its thing

I'm going to start traveling next step I want to go to New York So I'm making some videos out there in Times Square This I'm going to be shooting a lot of contact A lot of high production content videos We're making music content just ain't consistent promoting this documentary.

Big documentary for sure. And I'm going to start shooting a new documentary Road to my success, you know. Rebuilding my brand, rebuilding myself. That documentary tells the old side. This documentary is going to be a better side of joking. Interesting. Are you happy that that documentary is out overall?

Yes, definitely happy because... It's only got like 2,000 views, so it hasn't really caught on too much yet. Yeah. But I feel like it could definitely do real well. I need some big people behind it. That's not trying to get contact with Andrew, see if he was willing to help. He was going to help early on with it when he still had all gas, but he lost all gas in May 10.5.

Right. Definitely. What's the Joker 305's message to the people? Be productive, be positive, and never give us. up, man, because you never know you could be up today and you could be down tomorrow or you could be down today and up tomorrow, you know, just be positive. Never give up on life, never give up on something that you really want. You never commit suicide. Definitely. Never kill yourself. That's a Krip-Mack bar. I got to give it to him. Shout out. He coined that one. Free Krip,

Matt. Free Krip Mac. There you go. Okay. Anything that they should check out, anything you want the people to tune into? They should check out my document. It's on. I'm allowed to say my IG or no. Yeah, go. Yeah. Check out my Instagram, Real Florida Joker. The link in my bio to my documentary is there. So Joker gang gang or whatever I followed last night, that's not it?

Yeah, that's his main, but he don't really be on it. He pushes me on Real Florida Joker. I'd be on Real Florida Joker more. Yeah, Real Florida Joker. Okay. The Outread him is better on my new account. The account is old. Okay.

And that's pretty much it right now. Real Florida Choker Yeah And Mark Zergenberg Give me my blue Chuck

Mark We need to talk Yeah Mark Get it together Mark Come on Spend years Mark

And take two Where my money at Oh Who's take two Oh that's They own GTA Oh right Right

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