No Jumper - Jooba Loc's First Interview Out of Prison: Floyd Mayweather Robbery, Snitching Allegations & More

Episode Date: November 17, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. And today I have a man who is fresh up out of the county, right? Not prison? I went to prison for like my last four months because I had to plead guilty. Okay. Uh-huh. Okay. So fresh up out, prison slash the county.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Uh-huh. Jabba Loak is back. Back in the action. How you feeling? I'm feeling good. Must feel good. Yeah. How long have you gone?
Starting point is 00:00:23 Three years? Yeah, like three years and four months. Explain what the situation was that, that, led to you being locked up? Oh, I was out. I had a quarter case in California, but then I was out on a bomb, and then I had moved to Vegas.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I had a condo out there, and then I got a little altercation. They say, like, we try to rob Floyd Mayweather. What? Yeah. I don't know what he's talking about. You claim this isn't true, but how did they get the idea that this is what happened?
Starting point is 00:00:55 It's a license plate of a car connected to me, but they said it was my girlfriend, but I don't got no girlfriends. Damn, so even Floyd, man, whether they can get flocked? Yeah, they said we try to take his jury. Well, that's what, you know, he didn't, he didn't, I'm never going to lie nobody.
Starting point is 00:01:13 He didn't write no statement. It was his security with him who called the police, but, you know, he, I don't know, man. I got the shit, though. Wow. So how'd they end up making the case against you? It was a robbery that took place at the Red Rock Casino in Nevada, like,
Starting point is 00:01:31 an hour before he was going to get robbed. I mean, an hour after. It was a robbery, and then after that, I guess they say allegedly four people followed him home and try to rob him and all the shit. That's what they accused you of. Yeah. But how did they actually tie you to the case?
Starting point is 00:01:49 Because I was walking through the Red Rock Casino. You know, I was found guilty on it, so I was walking through the Red Rock Casino earlier that day. but, you know, they charges with that. I pleaded out to that robbery. You pleaded out to it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:03 And agreed to do three years, or were you supposed to be that long? No, I was, it's weird in Vegas. They don't do it like California. Like, it's like two to ten years, five to 15. You know, like, how old three got. You got like a deal like from here to this long. So they was trying to make me plead out to six to 15 years on my first deal, you know, but they offered my co-defendants.
Starting point is 00:02:25 One got probation in two months. And the other one had three to 15. I'm like, well, I got to do six to 15. So they took their deals, and I stayed in the county. But I was going to go to trial because the witnesses said that it wasn't me. But COVID-19 happened. They stopped trial. So I'm just sitting in the county.
Starting point is 00:02:42 And then, you know, I ran through four lawyers. So my fourth lawyer, I'm like, man, we went bankrupt in here, man. We're paying all these lawyers, you feel me? So. Because you said you spent over $150,000, right? Yeah. Josh, can you throw me my phone? $150,000.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Not on one lawyer at one time, but like, I literally had four lawyers, Robert Draskovich. I had Michael Becker and a couple more, man. But they, Michael Becker, the good one, though. That was the last one that you had. How did the other ones fuck you over? Like, one first started off like, oh, I want $30,000. So, you know, we gave him $10,000 down.
Starting point is 00:03:22 And then I was giving them $2,500 a month. But he's like, I'm going to get you all the six months. So we'll pay you all the money. He just gave me out, you feel me? Right. He never got me out. You feel me? And I couldn't get a bail, because I told you, I was out on bail in California, so I had a fugitive hold.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Right. So they're like, you can't bail out in another state with another charge. You got to finish one to get to the next one because I would have bailed out. Right. But when I first got arrested on the case, though I bonded out. My warrants didn't pop up. I got booked. They raided my house, my condo in summer.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And I bailed out because my warrants went pop up. But, like, I was out for three weeks, and they called me to the bells by my line. Oh, son. some papers. I'm like, all right. I'll pull up the sign of papers. They shut the door, like buzzed their door. Like, they start pulling out guns. People would look like they was reading books sitting down just like a
Starting point is 00:04:07 normal, and then they booked me. They did a sting operation. Yeah. Where at exactly? This was in Nevada. Okay, but where were you that they set this all up? I think it's called like bad girls, bells moms. Nevada. So you pulled up and they had all these people. I was just pulling up to be cool. I wasn't trying to run. I'm like
Starting point is 00:04:25 already bailed out. I told him I had a case in California. So I was in California with my daughter and her mom and my brother. Okay. And then my mom called me like, all right, look, we're going to go fix that warrant, but they just want to see you back in Vegas where I bailed out at just to check in. So I'm like, all right, cool. I'm not trying to run.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I'm going to fix my warrants. Right. But when I get there, they shut me up. Damn. Just poke me. And so, okay. What was your prison experience like in Vegas, jail slash prison, however? I thought it was like a gambling city.
Starting point is 00:04:56 But when I, because when I first got there, you feel me, who I was, you know, I was signed a snoop before I went to jail. So, you know, when I got there, I was sitting. I had got booked. So I'm like, cool. I'm in there. Everybody know who I am. And, you know, people, we all get booked. We still got a record clothes on.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Then I seen the police come up to me, like, stand up, put your hands behind your back. I'm like, put my hands behind my back. Why you ain't telling nobody else I'm already in jail? They handcuffed me and put me alone. I'm like, what the fuck is this? And then I guess they put me in maximum custody because of who I was. and that shit was crazy. So were you never really allowed to be around the general population?
Starting point is 00:05:32 I mean, for two years, my family and stuff was calling up there trying to get me out, but they kept using excuses like, oh, who you is, you, all, everybody in the jail going to listen to you and trying to get this snoop dog and all this shit, like on some weird shit, you feel me? I'm like, I don't beef with nobody in Vegas. I don't have no enemies out here, like, let me go to general population. But for two years, they didn't. So I was on 23-hour lockdown. It was like coming out an hour a day.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Right. That shit was crazy. Hell, feeding me through the door and all the handcuffing me to the shower, all type of bullshit. You're just totally isolated for almost the whole time. Mm-hmm. But my mom ended up doing a protest because I couldn't do it no more. It's like it'll be my kids or my son birthday, and it's 23-hour lockdown. So it's 24 sales.
Starting point is 00:06:13 They still got to do a break. They got to do, you know, switch off breaks. They got to stop and go to lunch. So seven people a day don't come out. So I'll be in the room for 48, 72 hours, what I'll even take? touching the phone. I'm like, y'all got me for it. So sometimes I go out and refuse housing now. Only thing I'm doing it's handcuff, you know, just strangle you back to the room. You ain't going nowhere. It is the hole. You is in the hole. And the hole out there, you're on 23-hour lock now.
Starting point is 00:06:36 You come out of an hour a day, use the phone. So I just had comments every, basically, I was in the hole. It's hard to believe that that shit's legal that they could just treat you like that, man. Man. I should have been, uh, the reason why they moved me because I swear I ain't lying. my mama had went live on my Instagram like, oh, they're doing my son like this and then she went up to a courthouse where my hole was at like, can you please take his warrant off so we can build him out and she did a
Starting point is 00:07:00 protest, I swear she did the protest probably at 11 in the morning, like 12, 30, I just get the seal come like, hey man, get dressed. I'm in my room laying down. He's like, get dressed. I'm like, for what? He's like, classification wanted to see you. I'm like, for what? I've been trying to, I've been writing
Starting point is 00:07:15 them on the kiosk for years. They didn't want to see me. So I'm like, low-key surprise. I get dress and I get the classification. I got a big old Al for I'm looking fucked up. And then they like, uh, man, tell your mom take that off Instagram. I'm like, what off Instagram? She's talking about we're kidnapping you or you getting fed through
Starting point is 00:07:32 doors and all that. I'm like, I am. He was like, well, if you take that down, we make a deal, I'll let you go to general population. I'm like, it took all this to do this. You hear me? I had to refuse housing and all this. And I swear I was in general population probably at 1.30. That's insane. You could put
Starting point is 00:07:48 like social media pressure on them and that they would just fold like that. I didn't even think they was watching my Instagram. They said, we did this to play. Don't, don't freestyle over the phone in here. I'm like, how? And I'm just rapping. They like, if you freestyle, we're going to bring you back.
Starting point is 00:08:02 If you get into any trouble in this unit within your first 60 days, we're going to bring you back. If the officers say you got the whole module surrounding you at your doors. They said you're not allowed to freestyle. Over the phone. Or I was going back. Oh, my God. They wanted to make sure you didn't put records out and make money. Yeah, that's why I released their free Java tape over the phone from
Starting point is 00:08:20 prison because I left the county but if I would have did it from the county yeah it was finito what was a general population like once you finally got in there man uh it's not is it's it's gang related yeah it's gang related out there all them down there for a lot of serious tires you wouldn't think so but it was a lot of california people there like you know L.A neighborhoods Vegas is just a big old lick down the street everybody just go there because it's cheap so when I got there I'm like man it is what it is you feel me I got there everybody started like you know doing what the police did you do you know what the police did you He'd say like dick riding and shit.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Like, man, what's your own, bro? Right. Anybody who's doing anything. They're just thirsty as fuck trying to figure out what they can do for. Anybody try to get tough with you, though? Man, uh, nah. I didn't got into a little trouble in there, but it wasn't nobody really trying to be tough because, you know, I'm a trip first, you see?
Starting point is 00:09:08 But it was cool. I liked it way better. I'm like, man, I wish I was here this whole time. But 23-hour lockdown helped me. I was looking right here at your books. The Robert Greenie? Yeah, you want to borrow one? Man, for real, I read 48 laws of power in there.
Starting point is 00:09:22 That's a great one. Dink and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. Oh, really? Okay. I was reading a lot. You got a lot reading. Yeah, a lot. Malcolm X books, Damon Dives, Jay Prince, Gucci, Mian autobiography,
Starting point is 00:09:32 invest in stock books. You know, it helped me. That's dope. Yeah. That's, I mean, making the best of a bad situation, I guess, right? For sure. Wow. But so then when you're in general population, like, what do you spend more of your time doing,
Starting point is 00:09:44 like watching TV, just talking with people, playing games? I mean, that's shit. I mean, I was writing a lot of music where I was. That's when I got there was a lot going on because like you're in a room all day where I'm at. So basically I know my whole program. I'm going to sit here and write music. I'm going to read a little bit. I'm going to go to sleep and I'm going to stand out the door till I can touch this phone.
Starting point is 00:10:01 You feel me? But other than that, when I got the general population, it was too much going on. You get a porter job. I didn't get no porter job though. But like you can move around. You coming out five times a day, four times a day. Hour here, hour there, go to the wreckyard. So it was kind of keeping my mind busy.
Starting point is 00:10:16 But I slowed down writing music because it was a lot of, you know, little fake politics if they want to call it. Slowed down writing music in the sense that you didn't want the guards to be, they were getting upset about you writing music or what? I wasn't used to a cellie, you feel me? I'm fighting serious times, so there's smokers coming in for two weeks. And then I have a cellie for two weeks and he leave. And then I got another cellie.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Then he leaves. So I'm got to get used to new niggas every day. Over and all. You just got a different weird-ass person. They go to court. You have a cellie. Y'all get closing in like, y'all be real cool. Then, oh, bro, I'm going home.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Like, what the fuck? Now I got to wait on. My room empty for dating. Here come 10 new niggas at one in the morning. Which one coming in here? I'm at the door. Then you feel, me you got. But most of my cellies was cool.
Starting point is 00:10:58 What's the worst experience you have with one of them? He was just talking to himself. I'm like, you got to fuck out of my room, bro. What is you on? Yeah. Yeah, man, I told him get up out of here, bro. Did all the Crips, when you get locked up, all the Crips try to, like, line up behind you and, like,
Starting point is 00:11:14 you become their leader? Oh, man. Because you're, like, well-known and shit. Man, I was well known, but I weren't trying to put myself in that situation because that was going to have me back where I was at, man. You don't just try to become the leader when you go in? I was trying to lead them the right way, though, you know, you from me? I was like, man, I got a gang of books in myself, 100 books, you know, 50 books. You can ask anybody on where I get somebody some, you know, some books, be like, hey, bro, read this.
Starting point is 00:11:39 This is a slight edge, you know, a lot of, like, knowledge books, wisdom books. You feel me? I see people fighting cases, serious time, and I try to help them get through it if I'm overhearing them on the phone. like, oh, getting into it that girl, like, calm down, bro. I was really trying to show them, you know, it's more to life in there. So you just been there. You went in with like a positive mentality. I went in there with a negative, but 23 and one made me go positive.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Really? Yeah, but I still, you know, I have my flashbacks. I'll start tripping in a minute. But yeah, I feel like, man, it's more money on here to get. Yeah, because, I mean, from outside of perspective, not saying that you're guilty of where you were locked up for, but it does seem like maybe you were. not living the life that you should have been,
Starting point is 00:12:21 given that you basically, you know, were kind of on the cusp of really making it music-wise. You're starting to do all these millions of views. People are really fucking with you. A lot of people out there might be wondering, like, why you would even end up in that situation. Or do you feel like you actually didn't make a mistake? I feel everybody make mistakes in life,
Starting point is 00:12:40 but I feel a lot of people out here rapping shit they ain't dead. You feel me? And I wasn't trying to be that rapper. That's where I fucked up at, too, though. but I was rapping when I was really living at the time. So it was like, I shouldn't been doing that now. As I look better, I'm like stupid. So like I changed my ways,
Starting point is 00:12:57 but I was really living with our rap. If I'm saying this, I'm gonna go do it. I don't wanna be the rapper, rapping some tight-ass, all this, that, that, and then you catch them on video running this shit. Like, or you just got your ass beat talking all that shit, you feel me? Right.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Or like getting caught lacking, my chain snaps or something, like, I'm talking to all this, I'll strip you and all that on my songs. And you feel me? I don't just talk crazy, crazy, but I still talk enough, but as long as I can back it up, that's all that matter.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Right. But I mean, like not getting your chain snatched and not being a punk is one thing, but like actually doing dirt per se, like, you know, being out there trying to make money illegally is kind of like a different thing where, you know, that's just you being like overtly ambitious. It's true, I ain't need that money.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I was good. I had a band, I had a condo, I had all my jury. I was on, you feel me? Mm. But, you know. I really took a case for somebody honestly Really? Yeah, he's just anonymous though
Starting point is 00:13:53 He's not on this case though So you've he what? Oh He never got, you know, arrested But that's how serious You are about not snitching Is that you wouldn't say anything Even if you weren't actually there
Starting point is 00:14:05 Man, I can't go like that That's why I already know You know you say you want to talk about it But yeah, that shit's out We can't do that, you feel? Everybody in the case stayed solid Yeah You still fuck with all of them
Starting point is 00:14:18 Yeah My boy Beakers, he a rapper, you know, Instagram right now, rapping Beakers, R.C. on Instagram. Okay. He got his flow going. Shout out my boy. He didn't want to go probation. Then my co-defendant. He's still in prison.
Starting point is 00:14:30 That's because he caught a new charge in there, though. They allegedly, they say he sought the guard and shit. So he was supposed to get out July 16th on his three-year date. But I talked to him, you know, I sent him money and shit. We're cool. That's my boy. And it was all us three, but on it, if you read the discovery, say four suspects, but the other one. interesting yeah i don't know him but so you um have vocal been vocal in the past about
Starting point is 00:14:56 these snitching allegations not being true but how do you feel about them like like where does that come from why do people feel so comfortable saying this come from uh my california case you feel okay i had a friend i ain't gonna give him no clout was my friend you feel me but uh he got arrested on the case what is you feel me but he'd be lying on instagram saying he was in the backseat of the car he like like I don't want to get too deep because I look I got a case in Vegas right now what was your LA case though a burglary okay right right but I had I still got a warrant not a warrant but like we fixing it right now because they didn't want to extradite me from Vegas back to California because of COVID so right now my lawyer Michael Becker is dealing with this case still
Starting point is 00:15:37 trying to run and concurrent with the time I got right now so my case still opened on me all them took time my brother was my co-defendant and the other dude they both did eight months in the County. My big brother, my blood brother. Wow. You feel me? So right now, we're trying to run a concurrent or it's probably, I probably got to do it eight months in a little bit. God damn. Yeah, so it's like that. Eight months, that would be the amount over the three years that you already did that you'd be facing? Yeah, but my lawyer said, I already did enough time. You feel me? That ain't even like, I think I should be straight. Maybe they'll give me probation
Starting point is 00:16:08 and a felony or something. Uh-huh. Well, that shit's done. That's why I ain't really been just all out trying to interview about it because at the end of the day I'm the only one still fighting this case everybody else you from me done with the case right you from me damn so how does it feel how long have you actually been home now I've been home I came home almost a month
Starting point is 00:16:28 okay on a 12 make a month how does it feel do you feel like you mentally are pretty much back to normal because there's always like a transitional phase when you come home right it was kind of weird the first day man how so how so because I've been going in and out of just I was 13 but I'll do three months I'll do six months camp
Starting point is 00:16:45 juvenile programs, you know, I've been to L.A. County and stuff, but I've never been going for this long. So when I came home to war, different, you know, my kid, you know, my daughter, my son, they was two when I left. So they eight five now. I ain't talking. They want to tell me what to do. I'm like, what's going on? You know, everybody looking older and sure. How hard was that in not senior kids? Man, I had to teach them ABC store jail phone. It was real hard. Wow. Yeah, for sure. That's rough. But it must feel great being back around them up.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Yeah. Yeah. It'd be good, man. Just, you know, situations with their mothers. It's crazy that you were, like, on COVID time, the majority of the time that you were locked up. Yeah, and as soon as I got sent to general population, it was COVID, so general population wasn't even going how it's supposed to go. Oh, so they're not letting you, like, sit around all of?
Starting point is 00:17:33 They was letting out 12 people at a time, all type of, you know. But, man, I called COVID in there, man. Everybody kept him in jail. Yeah, it wasn't that bad when you got it? Oh, yeah, it was bad. I'm a phone head, so I'll wake up. six, seven in the morning. So I'm on the phone.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Trying to break the bitch, you feel me? Right. And I'm on the phone, but I called COVID and, man, I ain't come out the room for six days. My celly, he used to have to call my mom and tell her I had it. But look, if you tell the CEOs you got COVID, they're going to put you in 23-hour lockdown, isolate you for two weeks. I was not going back there. Oh, so you have to hide your COVID. Man, I was buying IV profane off commissary.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Wow. That was my COVID. And I was waking up. shaking, cold. It was crazy. I'm talking about it's 12 people. If you're a porter and you work and that's the best job in there. So you got two porters who passing out the food don't want to tell the police because
Starting point is 00:18:26 they're going to lose their job and they fight murder cases. So they, everybody walk around like they put a pass out. Wow. For sure. Yeah. That's fucking scary. Define breaking a bitch on the phone. Let's come back to that.
Starting point is 00:18:40 What kind of hobby is that when you're locked up? Man, you're dressing finesse. You can still finesse through the phone. But like girls that you knew before you went away? Or are you the type of dude who's like finding girls on these weird prison dating sites? Oh, hell no. You don't do that? I got a whole DM full of them, you know?
Starting point is 00:19:00 I got to go to them. I was getting random fan letters. So a couple of bitches came and really helped me out that I didn't know, you feel me? All of a sudden those fans start to seem very valuable. Like maybe they can put money on my books. Maybe they can come. Pay me or pay me no attention. You didn't get no conjugal visit, though?
Starting point is 00:19:14 Hell no, I wish I could I was trying to get this correctional officer Is that like really hard to get? Like you have to be in like prison and You gotta be in present prep for sure You gotta do all kinds of paperwork and shit To concert go visits You probably have to be married or something
Starting point is 00:19:29 Yeah, ain't, uh-uh, none of that That's just sucks God damn What do you do like that primal sexual part of your brain What do you do when you come home after that long-ass stretch Yeah, rest in peace to the female You're mean you had something lined up
Starting point is 00:19:46 lined up what that's crazy can you tell me if you had a phone while you're locked up oh oh hey I just don't know
Starting point is 00:20:00 is there anything they could do to you after the fact if you were to it I'm gonna just say this you get called with phone in Vegas it's not like California
Starting point is 00:20:06 you feel me they put an escape charge on you really yeah so wow I don't know which they're right now Nathanial. That's interesting. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I ain't had Nathan. So would you rather be locked up in L.A. or in Vegas? Like, having done both. Which one was more? Because, like, L.A., you got weird-ass gang shit. I mean, it's gangs, but, like, this is what I say about gang. This is why I realize in jail.
Starting point is 00:20:30 We'll be beefing on the streets, right? Because I beef with the insane crypts, you know. I ain't going to say I'll beef with them, but my hood beef with them. I really care about a bag right now. You feel? But like, Long Beach, basically. All Hood's beef, you feel me, O.T. Genesis, he from two ends. I'm from break
Starting point is 00:20:46 boys, 52nd on the north. You know, the insane crypts on the east side. You got a couple rappers over there, Asian boys. You got some of them. They're cool. I know a couple of them. I'm jewelry from Asian boys. Name Young. Shout all young. Right. But this is what I was said, though.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Like, we all get it to beep, not the Asian boys up, but I'm just saying Long Beach, period. We'll go to jail for murder, and then we'll get to prison. And county you can fight, but when you get the prison, it's called a Long Beach card. So we're in prison, you can't fight no more. What's the whole point of coming here with y'all? Anybody from Long Beach is united?
Starting point is 00:21:18 We all together. So it's like we killed each other to go hang out together. I'm cool. I'm going to stay at home and get this back. I'm not going to come hang out with somebody who killed my homeboy. And you can't just say, oh, I want to fight him. They've got to go through politics now. It's like, bro, we did all this to get here and live with them for the rest of our life.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I'm cool. We might as well, you feel me, be cool living with them now. I'm not going to do that dumb ass shit. Right. So when we're watching you, you know, all those years ago doing the Zach TV interview and say, cheese and stuff was was your brain your young brain not capable of sort of realizing that this was a bad mentality to have like like if we had asked you if if that version of you saw you
Starting point is 00:21:53 saying that now what would you have thought of this i would say fuck all the out right now this interview but uh it helped me i ain't gonna lie it helped me 23 or what helped me at first he was like oh they did me cold they feed me they're doing me wrong but when i really sat back and read and got my mind together and looked at life from a different perspective and real I've alreadyed myself, I start looking at life different. Like, it ain't worth it, you feel me? Definitely. Because we're gonna be in prison with them. I literally was just in prison
Starting point is 00:22:21 with the insanees. Them are, you know, worst enemies. And they traded me with nothing but love. I hit the yard. I walk into, what was that, 7B? And High Desert State Prison, I hit the unit. You know, I signed the waiver to go general population. They try to do the same shit there to me. Oh, no, you can't, what? Sign, what?
Starting point is 00:22:36 I'm not going nowhere. I sign you, feel me? Right. You know, when I signed that, they had moved me like two days later, I went to parole board to see if you get parole, they don't tell you. You got to go to parole board, sit here like you in trial. I'm like, what? So I'm talking to parole board. As soon as I leave from parole board the next morning, they wake me up and move me to a unit.
Starting point is 00:22:53 But I was in like a cool unit, like a level one. It was all cool people when you first had prison if you ain't got in trouble yet. So they took me to the worst unit. I'm like, I just left parole board. It seemed like I ain't going home because they just sent me over here. And when I hit there, I walk in first person, the porter. Man saying, I'm like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:23:09 You feel me? I don't know how. I know Cali politics was like that. So when I get there, I'm like, cool. I make my bag. I'm like, damn, I got option here. I'm gonna run my face and shit I'm gonna be straight. I get myself they're like, niggas got banged up. I'm like, oh shit, you feel me? I'm like, what the fuck? And then they're like, oh, he's from there too. He
Starting point is 00:23:24 from there is four of them. Only me from my hood were four of them. So I'm like, we got yard and the hour. You feel me? Let me get the sharpening. So real. What? What? I said we got yard and hour. I got four ops. Let me get to sharpening
Starting point is 00:23:40 some shit. That's what you were thinking. Hell yeah, that was my first thing. And you just got in there. They ain't fin to kill me. What are you sharpening at that point? Like, you haven't even obtained like a thing that you can sharpen. I'll rip this shit off desks, whatever it comes to me. I'm not going to that yard like that.
Starting point is 00:23:54 The yard is the yard. Right. But I hit the yard, you feel me? And I hit the yard, he was like 30-something. He came holiday and he like, hey, come here. He's like, look, we alone beat you, feel me? Let me see your paperwork and all that. Boom, you know, you got to do that when you test prison.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I get my paperwork on my chart out there. He's like, you're good or insane. You feel me? Shout out my boy boo gangster. He had good people, you feel me? He was like, whoa, boom. I'm like, y'am. I want me getting out with somebody?
Starting point is 00:24:20 Like, he's like, nah, it ain't like that out here. You feel me, it's politics. We, we small. We already in somebody else state. So he's like, we run together. So I'm like, shit, I guess. Long Beach then. But that's what it was.
Starting point is 00:24:30 So did you end? Would you be more likely to have a problem with like a Hispanic person, a white guy or like a black guy who's not under the Crip umbrella? I love expatics at whites. I got Hispanics at my family. So it's easier for you to get along with them because it's... Yeah, I like Hispanics. When I throw concerts, they all there.
Starting point is 00:24:47 They support remote and black people. But in prison, it is. It'll go up over a soup. Say like a black person get a soup from an Hispanic. Right. And he don't pay him back. And then he's like, all right, y'all got two days to pay back. And they don't want to do it?
Starting point is 00:25:00 Oh, yeah. Everybody better go to the yard ready because this is going up over that soup. I'm talking about $0.25. Right. Or even if we go use their phone, you feel me? It'll be two, three black phones, two, three Mexican phones. If somebody go touch their wrong phone, it's up. You got to do it.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah, it's up, but, you know, it was cool. You were going to go up one time. You held it together, though. You didn't get any serious trouble while you were in there? It's little fights and shit, but not no serious shit, like, no stabments or nothing. Right. So let me ask you this. When you got in trouble, you're pretty much on, like, the highest point in your career, right?
Starting point is 00:25:35 Like, you're signed to Snoop and stuff. What is the conversation like between you and Snoop as you realize? that you got to go do this time with you as his artist. Shit. I just thought about, man, you went through this situation to you. He was down for murder.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Everybody made mistakes at the wrong place at the wrong time, you know what I'm just like, I got myself in this. I'm still young. I'm 21 years old at the time. I'm like, shit, if they give me 6015, I might be 27, but I'm going to go home one day.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I'm just keep rapping. They could take everything for me, but they can't take my mind. They could take everything. I mean, that's a good mentality. 27, 21 to 27 is rough. But, I mean, it's not the end of the world, I guess. I mean, it felt like it.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Yeah. Yeah, but. I mean, it's pretty close, but it's not the actually. It's not 20. You know, 20's pretty bad. You're going at 20 and you get out at 40. Like, Jesus Christ. Yeah, my last cell, y'all just left prison.
Starting point is 00:26:31 He went down to 18. He's 27. He'd get out when he's 42. So shit. I look at that. I look at other people. I got some, it was three people I took a life into in the county jail. Shout out of boo.
Starting point is 00:26:42 They're from Hoods out there in Vegas. They're from Double Up for Hood Bloods. They're all on the case, and they all fighting death penalty. And they all 19, 20, 21. They came in around the same time as me. They maxed them out too, because allegedly it's all over the news. You feel me, it was a shooting, and the little girl got here, so they tried to max them out.
Starting point is 00:27:00 But they're trying to pay it like they, you know, you know how they're trying to pay it, but they're going to beat their case out. Right. They're interesting. So, but was Snoop, like, supportive, or were you actually? talking to him or did that kind of like cause a rift?
Starting point is 00:27:15 No, we're real good. Snoop good people, you feel me? But you're still in communication with them? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. I'm about to do a song with him. Are you still signed to him? No, our contract was, it ended before I even went to jail.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I took an 18-month contract in like 2016. Okay. So that band over, even while I was out, he just, he told me like, I want you to be like your own boss. I want to teach you, I want you to see you get played out here. So basically, he just taught me the ropes to the game and shit, but if I need anything for sure, I can call it. It's weird because he is like so, I would assume that Snoop is so rich that to him signing a pop a new street artist is dope.
Starting point is 00:27:52 It's cool. It's good for his image. It's good for, you know, it's something he probably wants to be involved with. But also probably doesn't even scratch the fucking surface of what he's doing business-wise. He would mark the Stewart. I'm all over the TV. He's doing a whole much. That's why I appreciate him.
Starting point is 00:28:05 He don't got to sign nobody. He rich forever. Yeah. He rich. Where he's going? You know, shout out Snoop. He just lost his money. mom. So he's going through a lot. I was talking to him my first couple of weeks. I was supposed
Starting point is 00:28:15 to get the song. But when his mom passed away, I ain't about to hear him about no music. He got to cope. I know if I lost my mom, I wouldn't want nobody hitting me up unless you're saying, you know, sorry for your loss or something. So 100%. Yeah, that's fair. How hard was it for you to keep up on what's going on outside of the jail? Like, did you feel like you had any kind of understanding? I feel like jailed no shit before it happened. You really jailed me talking. Jail talk. They get on the phone. Oh, man. Really? Who just got killed. they get right up to the phone so jail here everything you got all these people from LA from there so they know what's going on like Nipsey when you know when Nipsey
Starting point is 00:28:50 while you were gone huh? Mm-hmm wow Nipsey was my boy you for me right how much time do you spend with him how well do you know? I knew I'm good I used to I ain't gonna lie that was the only rapper I really looked up to so like before I went to jail I've been listening to him since like 2009 when I was in like middle school so I really know all Nip you know but like really like a hero to so many fucking kids from out here yeah for sure man he for sure man I used to listen to nip every day you know so many rappers of like the
Starting point is 00:29:15 current generation I just have that conversation with them and it's like over and over I hear that because he think positive he got an optimistic bray you know I think he played chess he do how to make everybody go to his kind of life from L.A. the worst it'd be covered together that's smart but he bed had his mind say you don't see him dissing people in his videos you don't see if you go back he's not just big gang banging every video but he was a real one you saw him hit the right balance of being a street dude and being a businessman that is always tricky for rappers to figure out yeah it was hard yeah it was hard that's why i think i think he you know his pride when he died right he didn't want to look like oh i'm a bitch he stood at his store like what what it is what it ain't you know i respect him for
Starting point is 00:29:56 that but i feel he should have just like i don't know man i think he should have just like i ain't gonna say left his hood but i feel like he should have just left the store to them you know he was too big you know but I feel like the reason why I wasn't no guns in the parking lot and all that because he was so used to going over there when he felt like in nothing never happened so he was used to it and then his enemies known out to go over there so when his home boy would ever allegedly whatever happened on video I don't I didn't really like when I looked it up on YouTube the videos be blurred so I really don't know it's just stories so I'm not going to say that on his interview I can relate to like the mentality because we
Starting point is 00:30:34 had the store on Melrose for all those years and then one day a fucking crazy ass fan kid like breaks in with a gun and tries to put the gun to my head and shit like that and they ended up beating the fuck out of them but it's like if i got killed in that situation everybody would have said like oh adam's like he was stupid he was doing his live stream at the back of the store right on melrose etc like for me in that moment i just felt regular like i felt like i was just doing some normal ass shit i'm sure that nip felt like he was just doing some regular ass shit by standing there because he's got 10 however many years of being respected in that environment of never having anybody try to do some fuck shit to him you know he was comfortable with it so he just
Starting point is 00:31:15 happened to you know bad situation they say that he was going on bad information like that this accusation that he tossed out was not actually accurate yeah i don't know but either way i don't know i just feel like i don't know man i really looked up to him and uh i feel like yeah he was comfortable for sure because he was just standing right there and that's just crazy how he died because when I was in jail everybody, even my mama know I love Nipsey music. You know me?
Starting point is 00:31:44 I really supported him before. I don't know about how everybody oh, victory lap. I'm going back to Bullets. Ain't got no name one, take three. I'm singing that still, you feel me? I still play that in the car since I came home. So like a lot of people jumped on this binwag I feel like they didn't give him enough star power
Starting point is 00:31:59 until he died. That's why I don't respect. That's true. I feel like they like, So as he died, Nipsey, he's been doing that. Like, I passed out turkeys. I got footage of it, me, Russell Westbrook and Nipsey, like fool and all that, and Jason and all of us.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Yeah. You know, at Jesse on his park in LA. Yeah. You feel me? And then I has Grand Open and I was there too. I've seen him a couple times at Shawls with Snoop. We real cool, you know, you used to comment on my shit like, man, you know, can't keep pushing.
Starting point is 00:32:24 He followed me on Instagram still, even why, you know, since the shit happened. But he had a real good dude. Yeah, definitely. Super sad. Another person that was live. and that was kind of crazy is you did your Zach TV interview like outside your apartment building where you grew up or whatever like two days before he died.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Mm-hmm. That's crazy. No, no, the interview was in Nevada at my cousin house. Oh, that's where it was. But, yeah, two days later, that's why we had the interview. I thought it would never come out because I was just with him. He flew back in town to Chicago. I used to look up to Zach because, you know, like Rondo number nine, L.A. Capone,
Starting point is 00:33:00 little dirt before he was famous. They used to do interviews on there on like 2010-11. were always a big drill fan all that shit yeah i used to fuck with their music i fucked it with uh la capone a lot and then ron doing a little dirk for sure definitely they're hard i've been watching i watched a little dirt really rise yeah that's crazy right ells with french montana and uh just ain't what you on and shit when he was on the d'rude jane but when french montana said that he put little dirk on the other day little dirt kind of responded it was like cap no that's uh just for me outside looking in i don't know dirk i met him though so i do know him but i don't know him like
Starting point is 00:33:34 Prince Montana gave him a good look early in his career, but I wouldn't say that that was the thing that made Dirk what he was. Like, what made Dirk what he was is the fact that he kept growing really hard with the music. And he grew a lot, like more than any of those other drill artists from that era in Chicago. He just got really good. He for sure kept. Dirk was in like how, like first heard of Dirk? Because I wasn't listening to Dirk at first.
Starting point is 00:33:58 I heard of L.A. Capone, rest in peace, one of his boys in Rondo. Right. To play for Keeps. A little Dirk in a video like in his slums with him. You feel me? When Rondo went down for murder and L.A. Capone got killed. I'm like, damn, who I can keep up to listen to these niggins? And I took a liking into Little Dirk.
Starting point is 00:34:13 So French Montana, I watched the L's up for them hitters and all that song. That didn't put a little Dirk on. He kept it. Yeah. That was like a cool era, but it wasn't, it was many years later that people really started thinking of the Dirk with the goat. Man, that was 2012, 2013. Like, Little Dirk really started busing through the door around 2017. with manipulator,
Starting point is 00:34:35 Dirkio crazy and all that. You're a real student at all that. I'll be watching. You gotta pay attention. I like it. For sure. But Zach was a cool-ass dude, man. Like, would you ever have imagined
Starting point is 00:34:46 that he was the kind of dude that would get caught up in a situation like that? Nah, it's just weird how he died. I'm like, what the fuck? Right. Somebody texted me off his phone like Zach dead. I'm like, what?
Starting point is 00:34:58 I'm like, that interview off the window. Huh? From his phone. From his phone. I think it was a girl. The interview wasn't even out yet at that point? No. His family hurt out or his team or whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I was in the county. I never seen an interview until to be 100. I still ain't watched the interview. Why? I've seen it on YouTube, but I've been home. I've been going through so much. I'm going to go watch it, though. But I for sure looked up his Instagram and showed my condolus.
Starting point is 00:35:22 My favorite part about that interview is that you're having a hard time thinking of the Crip rappers that you want to shout out, and then you shout out AD. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, AD. Because he'll ruin. You cool. That was like when he was first coming out.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I guess. Yeah, yeah, AD cool people. Yeah. I asked, like, got to connect with him through Carver T. He's from Compton. Oh, okay. That's my boy. Big Tommy and shit.
Starting point is 00:35:44 He always told me fuck with AD. So I've been seeing AD on your shit. I had to go check out your YouTube channel before I came on. Yeah, I brought you up earlier. We should definitely get you guys on an episode together at some point. That would be hard. Do you, like, in terms of like what's going on with the music in LA or outside of it and everything, is there anything that you actually think is dope right now or what are your thoughts on?
Starting point is 00:36:04 what's been going on musically or in the culture since you came from me looking in l a rapper i feel like being honest l a rappers is haters everybody want to be the biggest rapper and l a and they don't want to put nobody on like you go down south you see all them collabing all them bringing each other on buying each other cars and jury you feel me l a man everybody i'm the best rapper i'm the best rapper i'm the best rapper i'm the best rapper niggas ain't even got a million followers yet like bro just just stick together bro i feel like you're talking about drako who drako yeah no i ain't about drako draco cool
Starting point is 00:36:36 i uh okay i ain't gonna say i'll fuck with him i don't know him like that but he cool i'm just saying all these rappers it's just everybody you feel me yeah but i mean half of them don't half of the rappers in l.a can't work with the other half just off principle because of the gang shit right and then on top of that there's all kinds of like weird little friction and shit from all kinds of other things so there are rappers who can like work together but it'll be like a click of rappers that work together just because they're like allowed to like all a gang shit, like, when you look at Atlanta, like, yeah, they have all kinds of street shit, gang shit, but it's not like they're nearly as separated, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I ain't going to say, gang, because half of these niggins in L.A. is not like, you feel me, these rappers, not out, so I like that to be like, oh, I can't fuck with him, you feel me? Yeah. I do a song with anybody from L.A., you feel me? I don't care where you from, but. You really don't? Like, the people that you actually, like, because the issue would be that if you did a song with certain people, then your fucking friends are going to be mad.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Right. That's why you, that's why I just go back to what I said. There ain't no niggas really outside because if you really a nigga in your hood, I'm like, bro, I'm about to do a song with bro and whatever happened, happen, you feel me? But I'm not going to go do no song with niggins saying, fuck my hood and my dead homies. That's how. Oh, yeah. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:37:49 Before it's like, all right, I beef with two ins. O.T. in them from there. You feel me? I was cool with Vince Staples before I went to jail. Uh-huh. I don't care if the homies. No, I tell him we on interview. It's going to go out.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Like, I was cool with Vince Staples. It's business. you feel me right you feel me we were straight you from me but niggas can't tell me what to do and how to do it he ain't saying fuck my hood fuck my dad homie he rapping with different people he's rapping for you know like whites and masks he's not saying nothing about he'll say long beach or something but he ain't just right here yeah but he's not saying fuck my hook oh yeah you feel me or fuck my or i'm a slide up on him and all that like no knock it off definitely you feel me so i feel like if we stuck together a lot of us in l.a a blow harder
Starting point is 00:38:33 It's true. Yeah, do you feel like, I don't know, you come home and it's kind of like you want to just go and collaborate with everybody and just do a million different things. But have you been kind of pacing yourself? No, I really don't want to do no futures. Be honest with you, but I will do it to help each other. You feel me? I don't need no features. I've been doing numbers by myself.
Starting point is 00:38:54 I feel like I can do it myself. But at the end of the day, I'm not trying to be like a thirsty-ass rapper. Like, oh, I'm just the best. And I'm not going to collab with him because. this and that and this and that, you feel feel me? No, if we can help each other get to the next level, that's what we should do because be honest, L.A. rappers, and ain't too
Starting point is 00:39:11 many of them really own. Niggas is fake on. But does your pride stop you from reaching out to people and just trying to work together, like people that you might not be super close to? I feel like, if I see somebody at a show or something, and we had a show or something, like, what's the deal, bro? Like, we're going to get something in. You feel me? Like, I got a song with Y.
Starting point is 00:39:27 You feel me? How we made, he came up to me at a concert, you feel me? But I wanted to do a song with him before, but you You for me? He's big as fuck. I'm like, this before Snoop. So I'm not fin to just be another nigga in his DM, you feel me? But when we've seen him, I just felt somebody tapped me. I'm just like, I turn around. I'm with Snoop. I'm looking at Snoop performance. Somebody tapped my shoulder. I turn around. He's like, what's the deal, fool? We start chopping up. He's like, we got to get one. He can say, what's up blood to you? And that's not a weird thing.
Starting point is 00:39:54 I'm from Long Beach. I'm from a Crip City. We don't be for blood. So. Right. But it's not like kind of weird for him to like refer to you as that. It's ain't the 90s or age. It's ain't free rate, right, right, bro. You feel me? Like, oh, man, why you say blood to me? Like, I fuck with blood, you know?
Starting point is 00:40:10 Right, definitely. Okay, so one thing I wanted to ask you about is you used to go really hard with the weed and the lean in their interviews and all that. You were, like, very into that. Where are you at in terms of that? You stopped with the weed? Yeah, I start smoking weed.
Starting point is 00:40:27 I can smoke weed now. It ain't because of the papers or nothing, but I just feel, it makes me lazy, bro. Like, before I went to jail, I recorded, like, one, two songs a week. Now I'm not being home. I only been home a month. I got, like, 20, 20 songs.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Right. I got three, four videos. I make me lazy. Really? I ain't going to say lean bad, but it depends on, you know, the occasion. Like, if I'm out the crib and there ain't nothing to do for the rest of the night, I sip some juice. Or I hate the blunt one time, but I'm not into that. Like, oh, I got to wake up and smoke.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Nah, I got shit to do, bro. You weren't getting fucked up at all while you were locked up? Hell, no. I ain't. Nothing. It was spicy in that much. I'm not smoking that shit. I hear people outside be smoking that shit, too.
Starting point is 00:41:05 What, spice? I had a girl in here the other day telling me about a famous rapper saying he'd be smoking mad spice. Oh, yeah, he hallucinated off the game for sure. He's finito old brain cells gone. You never even tried it? I hit spice before. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I tried it when time in it down. Was it weird? Hell, yeah, I'm like, I don't dare. For the whip my cell of your ass. What the fuck is this, bro? Had you up like that? It's not like being high like weed as you, like, read it up. I got you feeling like you.
Starting point is 00:41:30 3D body ain't your head over there. No, I'm cool. I don't do like drugs. Like I don't do hard drugs. I never try it in nothing. Like I don't do cocaine, nothing that, none of that, no Molly, none of that. I'm not doing none of that. Right. I'm not going to be smoked up. Do you think it's okay
Starting point is 00:41:46 for gangbangers to do those things or is that out for you? That's the only reason why they gangbanger party. They're off the mother. Yeah, like as a young man, I would have never thought that and then you get older and you realize like a lot of these gangsters would be snort and coke and all that.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Yeah, I don't do that. Uh-uh. That's a neat. But now they kind of talk about in songs and shit. You have rappers talking about taking ecstasy with the homies. Yeah, they snort lines and shit. Now, I'm cool. I ain't saying this bad. I ain't going to judge nobody.
Starting point is 00:42:15 But I'm just saying I don't want to do it. Right. Definitely. Yeah, you come home, like, super motivated to really get it cracking in terms of your career and everything? I'm hungry, man. I'm persistent, man. I'm really an artist now.
Starting point is 00:42:27 At first, I was a crypt, you know, famous crew. Just doing it to represent your neighborhood and shit. Yeah, I was doing, nah, I always had a passion for music since I was young, but I was living, like, living a life. Like, I'm going to go to the studio. I'm going to go to the hood right now. Like, Snoop moved me to Hollywood Boulevard.
Starting point is 00:42:43 I was standing in a Vine apartment, condos. So he was, that's how involved he was with your career. He actually cared about where you're staying at and everything. Yeah, he signed me, like a real contract, really put me on, move me. I went on the World Tour with Khalifa, Kevin Gates, and AICO, 2016. How was that?
Starting point is 00:42:56 The high road tour, it was fun. It was lit. Did you get to see all kinds of shit? you never seen before yeah because i never left the hood till he did that so yeah i was you from me wow big bitches big everything that's amazing i uh me and kacy vizis we used to hang out and then i used to hang with a little uzi some time on the tour he was cool and kevin gs dj and his artist oobooby black we was all straight with being a tar bus and shit wow chilling and shit that's some fucking crazy shit to imagine right there fun man little oozy dude that's crazy it must be wild for you
Starting point is 00:43:25 yeah right i remember going to see him and shit when he was kind of like a regular underground I didn't know who he was. Be honest with you, like, we had DJ Drama, an album release party. Yeah. And Snoop, like, come getting this picture. I'm like, come getting a picture.
Starting point is 00:43:38 I see a little Uzi, but I don't know who he is. So I see DJ Drama. Like, that's drama. I get in the picture, but the whole time I ain't knowing who Lil Uzi is. So, like, I get off the tour. I was real cool, a little Uzi
Starting point is 00:43:48 before I knew who he was. I get off the tour and I'm watching Amigo that bad and booji and shit. And I'm in my condo. And I'm like, wait, hold on. That's the, and then I looked up and just, I'm like, what the fuck? I was on.
Starting point is 00:43:58 I seen him perform it every night, but he wasn't on like that. Yeah, yeah. But shout out a little Uzi, though, for sure. That's crazy. For sure. Okay, let's see. Anything else that we need to ask you about, did you ever, did you actually clarify with the snitching allegations,
Starting point is 00:44:14 like why they're not true or what the thing that people think is true is? No, I just said it was an open case, so I'm not going to get deep in the case. We're going to do a part two, but I'm going to tell you like this. Like, I came home. I went to my hood. A lot of niggas running Instagram and shit with shit, but I went to my hood.
Starting point is 00:44:27 And the truth was known. I don't care about no Instagram. You know, Instagram ain't the hood. I was doing this shit since my space, you feel me? So it's like I went to my hood and cleared my name, you feel me? Right. We know the real, you feel me? And all that other shit is just, eh, fuck Instagram.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Niggers know what's really going on in my hood, you feel me? Do you have a shit list of people who said shit about you in regards to that? That if you see them, you need to have a conversation? Fuck a conversation. I'm a slap there for sure. Any big names on the list or it's going to be a surprise? surprise for sure niggas can't get clout on my interview
Starting point is 00:45:01 it's a couple of people you feel me that's a good point yeah but not too many niggas didn't know what really going on you know it's always too sorry to the story but you feel me a lot of niggas like really living on Instagram now like do this for Instagram go live and say this what happened like wait hold on bro
Starting point is 00:45:17 you talking about a case that's still open what are you on Instagram for you telling on this you feel me you was really telling talking about he told him how he told on you and you ain't even went to trial and I ain't took no stand on you, bro. You just told the police on me now, bro. I don't, Nick, I told the police I don't know you.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Now you're saying I know you. What the fuck going on, bro? Like, you feel me? You're making me hot, so I don't even know that dude, bro. I still got an open case. I don't know. What are you talking about? I was sleep.
Starting point is 00:45:42 I like it. For sure. You got to stay on the straight and narrow. Yeah, Instagram took over. Whatever Instagram say, it's true now. I get on Instagram. I'm like, oh, who do you gay. They can all go in this comments.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Bro, I heard you gay. You gay. You fucked him. You feel me? Like, shut up, bro. Like, you can go on Instagram, so I can have my homeboy take my chain and post a video. Oh, he got your chain, go get it back. And then you'd be like, oh, this was the homie.
Starting point is 00:46:06 They still going to be like, no, no, no, no. He took your chain, bro. Like, the whole time it was a little TikTok video, bro. Yeah, yeah. That's why I don't really, like, Instagram is weird as fuck. Yeah, the fact that people will, like, see something viral, gravitate to it and then, like, not even, like, check in on whether it's real or not. Like, there was a fucking wannabe rap.
Starting point is 00:46:26 who pretended to steal my cat out of my old bike shop. Yeah. He went in the shop with another cat that kind of looked like my cat, and he ran out and filmed it holding the cat. And I still to this day have people say like, yo, did you ever fucking smack the shit out of that dude who stole your cat? I'm like, bro, I had pictures of that cat on my only fan.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Or my only fan. Whoa, you got a only fan. Whoa. I had pictures of the cat on my Instagram for like many years after that. Like, y'all should have, like, Are you really not paying attention like that? But people, they'll see something viral and they won't even bother to inquire if it's real or not.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I feel like this. It costs zero dollars. You feel me? A nigga can have a phone with no service. Take his homeboy Jerry. Go flex. Go to Starbucks. Get on Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Post a picture. You feel me. It costs zero dollars to talk or go get out of their nick comments like, you a bitch. But if a nigga put a $100 price tag against their mouth for their fingers before, I bet you they can't even pay their phone bill to go talk to shit they talk. You feel me? These nigg is, mom, it should be a crime for that. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:47:26 they should go to jail for being bums for sure i realized how bad it was because uh at that old shop for some reason there was an empty pinelene just sitting around and i would see everybody who came through picking that shit up and being like yo yo yo to their homie like yo yo take a picture to me with it what though what emsy pint they're like i'm like bro like y'all are really like that thirsty to take a photo that makes you look like you're a drug addict like that's crazy like wow bro like they'll do anything they'd go going to Beverly Center parking lot, see the foreign. Let me shoot my video right here.
Starting point is 00:48:00 All the time. Like, shut the fuck up, bro. Go on Toro, at least. But I don't even, I feel like the kids are too smart to fall for it now. You know, like the average kid in the hood, I feel like still is smart enough to be like, oh, that's not his Lamborghini. No, you want to know something. When it get too exclusive, you're like, no, that ain't his now.
Starting point is 00:48:15 But it's certain shit because a lot of bitches be having babies with niggas who's fake flex. And I was like, bro, what the fuck? She got a baby with him? Then she, you catch her on Instagram three months after she. She had to be like, bum-ass, nigga, you should have been to that, bitch. Should have went to the clinic. Oh, man. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Okay, so, like, what's the plan for world domination at this point? Like, how are you really, because I feel like you're probably, like, one of the rappers who has, like, the most of a chance of, like, really, like, blowing up this year. Like, I feel like, now that you're back, if you make the right moves, you could definitely, like, be a real, real factor over the course of the next year. First thing, put God first. That's for sure. I'm in a studio daily. You know what I'm in the studio daily. I'm shooting videos.
Starting point is 00:49:00 I make sure I got a video put up before I release one now. I move strategic. I got my royalties and masters and I was in jail. Somebody had stole my royalties and masters. Not snooping them, though. How did they do that? Before I went to jail,
Starting point is 00:49:14 I had let somebody upload my music on Distro Kid. Okay. So when I went to jail, he stopped answering phone calls and all that. So I'm in a middle of an entertainment lawyer getting my stuff back from him. But I still own my royalties and master. It's just my old music.
Starting point is 00:49:26 But so is this somebody that you were real, real close to at one point? His shit was under get-dough disresolution named Jady. He was a jank bar, bro. Okay. Yeah, he's a weirdo. Oh, yeah, I do know him. Interesting. You do?
Starting point is 00:49:40 Yeah, I met him before. Stole my shit for sure. But it ain't nothing like that. It's all good. Interesting. He should have, you know, he should have just dug it out with my little tongue. You feel me? And then we would have been on because right now the shit he stole,
Starting point is 00:49:54 my video's only been out of week, two weeks. that's going to pass that shit. Right. In the next month or two, I'm going to have one, two, three, M on videos. And when I left, I had two, three M. And that shit took two years to work for it. So I felt like if he would just stay now for the come up,
Starting point is 00:50:07 he'd be right here with me. I was going to keep it solid with him. It was a 70-30 split. It was all up. But shit, he blew it. You feel me? He could have been managed me and all that. But now it took me to go to general remandement books.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Now I feel like my team, I could teach people I grew up with how to do this shit. I don't need him. Could you ever imagine signing? Like, did the, did the snoop thing and that, did that leave a bad taste in your mouth, or are you still kind of thinking about it?
Starting point is 00:50:30 Because I feel like at some point, record labels are going to probably realize that you're somebody they would want to invest in. I mean, I don't want this time right now, but because I feel like a label, they just get money, blow your Instagram up, you know, blow your YouTube up. That's cool, you feel me.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Right. But I feel like they just investing in me. I feel like I can invest in myself the money I'm making now and return it to myself and I'll be bigger, you know what I? But I will take, like, a distribution, deal like with a label. I would take a distribution deal to like put out
Starting point is 00:50:59 my shit, but I don't want to be in no contract. I don't want to be no slave. They'd be stealing money for sure. They're contradicted. Yeah. I mean, at the very least, their value is kind of questionable. I just want the right management team. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:13 If you got connections, like you can get marketers to help me on Instagram. You can help me get venues to do my tours. You know somebody who can help my YouTube or, you know, whatever connections we need or got, you know, I feel like with that. team behind me we're unstoppable you're looking forward to going on tour and doing all the stuff that you probably haven't done in so long yeah i'm gonna start looking into a tour for like i want to just rush a tour
Starting point is 00:51:35 because it's gonna be an independent tour so i'm gonna do it for like like after march april towards the summer i'm gonna put out of least an album and a couple singles and like press them into the radio i got a couple people at radio stations i'm gonna be talking to to get my song on there i got a song that ain't like you know just i'm gonna go bang bang somebody you in me but try to change my image. I want to do like music with everybody. Yeah. Justin Beaver if we forgot to do. Really? You like to work do more pop type stuff? Yeah, I want to handle it. Yeah, I want to change. You feel me? Look at Snoop. He do everything. You know what I'm Cripping one day. Nah, he will mark the story one day. He would to Crips one day. I want to be like
Starting point is 00:52:13 that. All these rappers want to stay in one image. You feel me? Y'all can't stay like that. That shit ain't going to last long. You feel me? For sure. Can I just get, I just need clarification on this. Why did your name have two O's, but it's pronounced Jabba? I was mad at myself when I went to the gym and really sat down, right? So look, I was
Starting point is 00:52:35 I started my, my uncle rest in peace, named me that when I was a baby. So when I was young, my hood do tools. So when I was young and like, AIME MySpace, I used to always put tools. Okay. So everybody knew me from that little YouTube. I used to have a YouTube channel rap when I was 14. So everybody, I had a little
Starting point is 00:52:51 following already in Long Beach. So everybody knew the search of my name. When I was in chill, I'm like, man, I need to change my whole shit. But I'm like, if I change it, it's too late. So that's why people be like, what's up, Juba? But it definitely, you don't like Juba? Hell, no, that shit's on like, I just sound like, I'm like some bullshit. It sounds like Duda.
Starting point is 00:53:09 And then I got R-C, I got the R-C. They'd be like, Jubark. What the fuck? But I know you're a fan when you say Juba, for sure. You listen to me, but you don't. Because you don't know I'm Java, you feel you? You listen to me, don't you don't. So when somebody walk up like Juba, I'm like for sure, fan, what's up?
Starting point is 00:53:26 It is what it is. You're trying. I don't even tell him his job. I'll be like, all right. My girl is Lena and people come up to her on the street all the time. They'll say, I'm your biggest fan. I love you, Lena. And it's like, you know, we just let it go because who the fuck cares.
Starting point is 00:53:42 But it is kind of weird that they claim to be like super into it. But then they don't even pronounce it right. It's like, okay. I got a silent O in my name. Yeah. Or it's a gang thing. Yeah, it's really that jobeloak. Even if other people find it confusing,
Starting point is 00:53:58 I mean, there's a lot of, there's a lot of gang stuff that's confusing when you see people with the shirts, with the big letters, and they got different things crossed out and stuff. It's like you have to be a fucking mathematician to understand it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of people cross shit out and ain't even did nothing to cross that out, you from me,
Starting point is 00:54:13 so you stop crossing shit up. I'll ask in the group chat, and they'll just tell me, Adam, don't worry about it. I've been saying you doing your stuff since Melrose. Yeah? Since before then? Damn, I wish we had got one in the back then. Before you were locked up, that would have been hard.
Starting point is 00:54:28 For sure. Back in the day. Used to be with my boy, Almighty suspect. You fuck with the suspects still? Yeah, that's my boy. Okay. He was always posing me, free me. One of the only rappers out here really like free job,
Starting point is 00:54:37 free job, and he knew what's happening. I used to call him and all that from the county and shit. That's my boy. I've seen him since I've been on. Oh, yeah. That would have been cool. But would you have some music on the way with him? Yeah, we were in the middle of a song.
Starting point is 00:54:52 We was working on a song. song but I told him I don't want to just put out anything so like we working on a you know like a better better song I want to really when we drop I wanted to be something big for both of us I wanted to be just a video we hanging out like all my videos now I did that in my hood and shit because you know oh you can't go and all that little I gave them what they want to you feel me yeah but now now it's like I'm about to be like really doing movie looking videos yeah yeah I'm not fun to just have 20 niggas behind me standing me with lean cups and shit smoking blunts I I can't lie, though, man.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Before I knew suspect or Frosty, we was banging their music, like, all the time, bro. Like, we were really fucking with them. Actually, I should go back and listen to all that shit right now. It would probably get me in my feels. Yeah, man. Almighty. Yeah, they killed it. They were crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:39 They were going crazy. Shush. All right, so, yeah. It was a fucking great interview. You're a great conversationalist. I appreciate you sharing your whole story with me, man. I appreciate you, too, man. I appreciate the interview.
Starting point is 00:55:50 When you hit me, I'm like, oh, yeah, I need that. Okay. Were you not even thinking about doing an interview at that point? Because your old interviews are kind of iconic. Yeah, I really didn't want to do interviews when I got out. Because, like, my last interview was Satee before I went to jail is the reason how this case and all this shit. I was talking about my past life, like breaking in houses and shit. Oh, they used that against you. And all that.
Starting point is 00:56:10 And the shit the niggie be saying about me. Everything I said in the interview is into paper. Like, what the fuck? Really? Like, literally, I'm in the backyard like, oh, I'm here for 500 bands and this much and that. And they're like, oh, it was like crazy questions. Like, what do you say? How do you know where the people live?
Starting point is 00:56:27 I'm like, oh, Asian people, shoes on a porch. I read the shit the niggins saying, I'm like, bro, this is the whole interview, bro. Is you serious? Like, it was an interview, but I'm telling him like, oh, this was before rap. You feel me? I ain't saying like, oh, I'm going to go hit the flock right now. So do you think that the way Sean Cotton conducted the interview was fucked up? Or you just think the way they used it against you was fucked up?
Starting point is 00:56:45 I mean, I just woke up to a text one day from my lawyer. Like, hey, get the interview on YouTube. The district attorney just got a whole. to it they used negligence to you for this new charge you just got booked on did they take it down at hell you he took it down in two minutes but then he put it back up later he never put it back up it's not i seen it the other day no that's another one that's only part of it no i had one in hollywood in the alley and then i had another one in the backyard because i was getting into it with takashi six nine yeah yeah yeah so times i don't even know what to say i
Starting point is 00:57:14 ain't got nothing to do in him that seems funny in retrospect that that all these real gangsters in LA were like pissed off about him because just the way it all went down it just at the time he seemed like an actual gang member who was just whaling out and now it's like oh that shit just seems like such a joke i seen straight through it you hear me but i really wasn't beefing with tkashi it's like i was just talking about doll hair rappers and shit acting like they shooters i never said his name you feel me right he commented on my instagram putting laughing emojis so i'm like what you're laughing at He's like, I'm going to be in L.A. in three days. I'm like, I got a show.
Starting point is 00:57:52 I'm like, oh, I come to L.A. if you want to. He really came to L.A., but he didn't do the show. We pulled up. You pulled up, and that was the reason why the show didn't happen? It's footage on YouTube. Hell yes. It was on World Star. I pulled up and he didn't perform for sure.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Define pull up. Like, you were with like 100 people outside the venue or something? Mm-hmm. Now, but I ain't going to lie, man. That dude was crazy, but everybody Ben knew what he was. Like, he got rainbow hair. He's in New York. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:17 And he's talking to all. this shit and I expect him to go do some time like be serious bro like them tray way nays is dumb that's why what happened in him they knew he was weird you feel me right you from me they shouldn't even had him in that situation he wasn't built like that but that's him I don't go I don't give a fuck about him we could switch a whole conversation do you think that there are does that make you lose faith in gang banging when he doesn't get popped I'm not gonna say I'll lose faith because he probably moved strategy he posts videos after he leaves so he's kind of smart to be one honey with everybody
Starting point is 00:58:48 He started all that beef because he knew what he was doing. And guess what? He blew up off the shit. So I'm never going to knock a nigga for getting money. But for as far as I'm not mad at him for what he did. I'm mad at the trail for taking a man. They knew what was going on. But is that that different than a lot of people from L.A.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Kind of like embracing celebrities and allowing them to claim hoods and shit. Is that kind of like just as lame from your perspective? The 6-9 thing just went bad more so. Yeah, man. A lot of these rappers, whoever come to Lowe's, LA and shit, just banging shit. I feel niggins want money, but it's probably, you feel me, you got to wear by
Starting point is 00:59:24 respect, you feel me? Respect first. You're a man before anything, so you're just letting anybody come over there just say this. I mean, like, it's crazy, though, because, like, the public's appetite for gang shit is even more than when you got locked up, like, the hip-hop fans just love real shit
Starting point is 00:59:40 and they get obsessed with these artists who are really, like, actually getting in crazy-ass trouble, you know? Who real, though? Like, what rappers do? think really real. Well, like, when I look at somebody like Poo Shisty, who seems like he's facing a pretty bad case right now, I mean, his music was dope, but also, like, everybody seemed to understand that he was, like, really out here doing some crazy-ass shit since he got into insane situations,
Starting point is 01:00:05 like, while he was a huge rapper, not to mention the shit that he was doing before he blew up. Is that the one song to Gucci? Yeah. I heard that when I was in jail. I think I heard that little dirt back in blood. That's the only thing I heard, but I did. I mean, that was a huge smash. She has a lot of other good music.
Starting point is 01:00:18 I'm going to take him out for sure. They're saying he's going to do at least five years probably. Damn. Crazy. He's going to come on more. I fuck with young boy music. I feel like he'd be on this shit. That's another person they're saying he's going to be doing at least five years.
Starting point is 01:00:30 He out. Yeah, but like pending trial. Oh, true. And they got him in Utah. It's pretty funny to imagine him in Utah. That's crazy. My lawyer got a license in Utah. I've seen him on his car.
Starting point is 01:00:42 That's crazy. It's not a place that I would imagine being very, like, friendly to young boy or the kind of place that young boy would really want to be, but I don't think he's like allowed to leave the house. So yeah, they don't care about no music, Nevada. Once you leave your city, even your city, they don't care they're trying to hang people. So there's a couple real rappers out here, but it's 90% fake rappers for sure. You're trying to get out of Long Beach?
Starting point is 01:01:07 Oh, like, like make it out of Long Beach? I mean, are you just like, do you want to stay there? Like, do you stay there? No, no. No, you're over that. Every since Snoop moved me out of there, I've been gone. You know, I can pull up though. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Pull up when I want to. But you don't want to be the most famous person in the neighborhood. No, I want to be the most famous person the whole world. Yeah, you want to be the most famous person in a nice neighborhood. No, you actually want to move to a neighborhood and you're not the most famous person. Yeah, no, I don't live in the trenches. Yeah, that's good. That's good.
Starting point is 01:01:37 How's that ice? Good, man. I ain't had no ice in here. Job of Loke. My man, I appreciate you giving us the interview. I'm a believer. I think your music's hard. I think everybody ought to go turn you up on Spotify and Apple and all that.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Yeah, I appreciate to love, man. For show. Appreciate you. I'm my boy, Adam, man. Job below, no Jumber. Coolest podcast in the world. Check us out on YouTube, Patreon, all that shit. Like, comment and subscribe.
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