No Jumper - JReal Da Realest on Coming Up Hoover, Trell Banning Him from Back On Figg & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And today I'm back with an esteemed panel. I had booked an interview with my guy, J. Real right here. And he brought along somebody else who, you know, you coined a phrase that I use all the time. Yeah. God and Gumby. God and Gumby.

Starting point is 00:00:16 Only two things I care about. Only two things I need to give me through life. God and Gumby. Shout out the Gumby. The Hebrew in this bitch, too. Yes, sir. Hey, how's it going? So, okay, we became familiar because you had kind of this like,

Starting point is 00:00:29 a crazy moment on the viral way podcast when it became clear that you had some stuff to kind of get off your chest and everything. But so we're going to get into all that. But I mean, let's give them the rundown of like who you are and how you kind of came up. Definitely, man. Jay Ritter-Rillish, man, the most known, unknown, South Central artists in history. Yeah, I'm saying. Many people would claim not to know who I am, but then when I step in the room,

Starting point is 00:00:56 everybody in that room definitely knows who I am, you know. I've been doing music about 20 years. I got songs of discography. I got songs with cocaine, nocturnal, schoolboy Q, AD, feature upon feature, legendary baller. We got Rizant Tributes dedicated to the Woo, you know what I'm saying? It's a long discography of work that I've been putting in Omar Gooden. I ain't going to call you junior name.

Starting point is 00:01:27 That's my guy. He's going to see that. We're actually working on some music right now. Now, man, Pugiev and Rood, you know, just a lot of dudes that I've been working with throughout the years as an independent international artist. Also got tracks in South London, Poland, Iran, South Africa. So we're working deeply on that part. Working on films right now, self-published author, also landing no pity of South Central Story. I guess we'll get into that a little bit later too.

Starting point is 00:01:59 For sure, but as far as your actual upbringing in LA, what area you grow up in and what was that like? Yeah, definitely. 51st, 52nd Hoover Street. Originally, I want to say like 96, 97 is when I started representing the age up until becoming a non-active member, probably around 2009, 08, 09. Okay. I'm saying, well, I just, because I started having kids. Okay. So I became, you know, I'm always, like I said, like always, I'm always being associated.

Starting point is 00:02:37 I'm always being affiliated. I'm just not active. You know what I'm saying? I'm grown. I'm focused on other shit. I got kids, you know. For sure. But shout out Big Bosco.

Starting point is 00:02:46 Shout out, you know, all the hummus. Rest in Peace, Blind, twin, Kuda beer. You know, shout out my 5-1 babies, traffic. Dice over there, you know what we used to loop the stick, D-Lore. and the list can go on and on and on, you know what I'm saying? My guy, you know what I'm saying, big H's for a little of Hebrew, you know what I'm saying? When you look back on it becoming a Hoover member back in the day, was that something that you did because you wanted to fit in?

Starting point is 00:03:13 Was it something that you did for protection? Or was it just kind of the most natural thing because of where you were at? It was a part of that last part was, you know, natural because of where I was at. I grew up in foster homes and group homes. Oh, okay. So I grew up already displaced being. being moving from different neighborhoods to neighborhoods every six months, every seven months. I've lived in Inglewood, went to Morningside.

Starting point is 00:03:34 I went to Fochette. I went to Chris, y'all. I've been to school in San Bernardino's all these different places. But initially, it all started when, in about 96, 97, I was dealing with some abuse from staff members and a boy's home. Really? Okay. I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:03:56 And so I've ran. I would run away. You know what I'm saying? You know, you get called about the truancy officers, police or whatever, they bring you back. Run away, come back type of thing. So initially, I had a foster brother named Lawrence. His mother lived in 7-4-Huval hood. This is where I would go.

Starting point is 00:04:16 His grandmother would, like, let us in, you know, and all that type of stuff. And just real quick, what happened with your parents that landed you in the foster-room system? See, that's it. But, yeah, so now we're getting into the book because that's about, autobiography, but my mother abandoned me when I was three months. I was a doorstep baby. I was left at, rest of peace, Miss Barbara, you know what I'm saying? Bless her soul.

Starting point is 00:04:37 But my father was an alcoholic. He was, I'm not going to say that he ain't shit, you know what I'm saying? Because he attempted to do what he could with this situation. But he also waited until he was 40 to have me. So in this situation, there was a lot of things going on. as I hear it, prior to my mother, to my biological mother passing away, it was more like a keep a brother baby type of situation.

Starting point is 00:05:03 He was getting married to another woman. She thought getting pregnant was going to keep him. He was like, let's get up out of her with that weird shit. So she had two other kids. She was on the run from the feds at the time. She had gotten to some shit with her ex-husband. The feds for what? I don't know.

Starting point is 00:05:21 That information was never really disclosed to me because it was kind of like that's something I don't want to relive when I did talk to her about it. But I know it involved drugs. I know it involves some type of robbery. I'm not sure if it was bank or something like that, but she definitely was on the run from the feds.

Starting point is 00:05:38 And I guess she felt like if pops ain't on, pull his weight, it's easier for me to just drop the baby off. So like I said, Ms. Barber, shout out to Ms. Barbara. Ms. Barber was that elderly woman in the neighborhood who kind of looked out for all the kids. Really? You know, she was like the foster home for the foster home.

Starting point is 00:05:56 Okay. So the story goes, my mother would bring me over there. And one day, she would bring me by often because Ms. Barber would have things, food boxes, diapers, stuff to help the women out in the neighborhood. Sure. And she brought me over there. She told me that she'll be back in about two or three months. Because when she get over these cases, do everything she got to do, she never came back.

Starting point is 00:06:19 Damn. So that's how that led and began. with me living in that type of life. Weird story is that on the same block, on the same neighborhood, my biological grandmother was Ms. Barber's best friend. So they used to watch, like, the stories got in light, all my children, all this type of shit together. And then she's a grandma looking at me.

Starting point is 00:06:40 They're looking at baby pictures of pops. So they called pops. Pops slide over like, yeah, that's, he already knew. He's like, yeah, that's me, but I'm not taking it back where you go, you know, type of shit. So my biological, grandmother made the decision to say, no, this is blood. Let me take them.

Starting point is 00:06:57 But due to, due to disruptive and dysfunctional behavior through the years at her elderly position, she wasn't able to deal with me, you know? So it was suggest other family members didn't want to take me because of whose son I was. Okay. You know what I'm saying? But did you ever reconnect with your mom as the years went by? I paid $278 to one of it. I don't know if y'all remember in like the early 2000s, they had to,

Starting point is 00:07:23 those find people website. You can find people's address and do. I'll pay $277 and like 0.10, 0.11 to find her because I had had. At the time I had children and I felt like

Starting point is 00:07:38 they need to have a grandmother. They had their mother's mother in their life. Where's my mother? You know what I'm saying? So I found her. I reached out and I let her know that, look, check this out. It's not bygones. It's going to be bygones because I got deep-seated issues because of your abandonment. But that's something I got to work out in therapy and X, Y, Z.

Starting point is 00:07:59 But there's no reason that you don't, that you can't be here for these grandkids. They don't, because I didn't know you doesn't mean they don't have to know you. So I'm not going to be spite for it. Keep them out of your life because I was, because you wasn't in mind. So I gave it that opportunity. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, look, tell me your story. Give me the rundown.

Starting point is 00:08:16 What happened? You know, how was it? I know Pops is like this and things like that. Because you getting some closure about what was. going on with your mom. I mean, a straight relationship. If you're in therapy, you know that this is all about getting to the root of all this shit and you understanding that

Starting point is 00:08:31 could help you get past. Well, I keep calling these bitches, bitches. Why I got all these trust issues with women? Why I can't stay in a relationship for a longgated amount of time? Why do, you know, why do I practice self-sabotage any relationship I have

Starting point is 00:08:47 with a woman? These are all due to the separation anxiety and separation issues that I have with my mother. Of course I'm not going to think you're going to always have my back. My mama didn't even always have my back. So I'm going to always be looking at you. Grandma put me in the foster system. Aunties didn't like me. They didn't want me spend the night over their house. So every encounter with a woman, even when I got older, I live with my sister. She put me out to go stay with a dude. She's like, you want to

Starting point is 00:09:11 run the streets. I'm like 17. You know what I'm saying? She's like, oh, you want to be in and out. I'm moving. We was in the Dino. She's like, I'm moving to Pomona. I don't know what you're going to do. Now, I had a 385 Z. I slept in a Z for about two years, and I start to use women to get what, you know what I'm saying? Get what you like me. I need to eat.

Starting point is 00:09:31 I need clothes. I need this and that, you know what I'm saying? I didn't have the mind frame of entrepreneurship or economic development to where, okay, just go get a job, go to labor ready, go to day-ready jobs, and just work and grind and stack and save. I'm like, nah, I'm going to use these women. You know what I'm saying? Everything going to business, bigger than business, bigger the back.

Starting point is 00:09:51 You know what I'm saying? You know, and even though I'm saying all of this and people are going to be like, oh, you ain't swimming all this. No, I'm saying this because this is what was necessary for me to speak on in therapy. This was what was necessary for me to have an understanding about what my issue is, you know what I'm saying? So I can have because I have a daughter. So I have to, I got to clear this bullshit up with women so I can be able to be the type of man

Starting point is 00:10:13 and my daughter's going to need. You know what I'm saying? So all of that came ahead with that. And so, and she passed away, you know, I sat at the foot of her deathbed. But was she not receptive when you talked to her about form of a relationship with your daughters and everything? Who, my mother? Yeah, was she not really hearing it. She was with it.

Starting point is 00:10:30 She was 100% with it. She cried, we cried. I told her I forgive her. You know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, you know, she and went got sanctified, saved, Holy Ghosts, all that. She was driving up for MTA. That's, now I'm dating myself. But MTA, RTD, all that, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:10:48 And she had got her life together, you know what I'm saying? So it was like, if you're going to be there, if you're going to start calling, you're going to start coming. Here's the address. Here's the number. You're going to be vivid and instrumental in their life. Come on, then. We got about a good 10 years. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:11:02 About of her before she passed away. So my kids got to experience that even though with me and her, it was still a lot of unclosed doors. You know what I'm still a lot of locked doors between me and her because I'm 20-some years struggling with this. shit. You feel me? No, for sure. Now I got wife, you know, daughter at the time I was married, but you know, I got wife, daughter, and all this other shit, and shit ain't working out.

Starting point is 00:11:28 It's like, why? What's wrong? What's the issue? You know what I'm saying? I can't leave my, I can't lead a family if I can't leave myself out of my own problem. You know what I'm saying? For sure. So, okay, what were all those years like, though? You kind of got into the street lifestyle and

Starting point is 00:11:44 were you, I mean, there's like a lot of different versions of that. There's like dudes who are running around doing. I was crash touch dummy. I was trying to, I lack guidance. I didn't have a father.

Starting point is 00:11:56 My mother didn't get a fuck about me. I was out there trying to prove myself to whoever would give me acknowledgement. Didn't matter what it was, what big hummy it was, what dumb ass shit they was telling me to do. Fri-up IDs, getting put on checklist, you know, doing X, Y, Z without, you know,

Starting point is 00:12:11 incriminating myself, you know. But at the same time, I was willing and ready to do whatever it was. to not just impressive, but validate my own manhood, which was missing in my life. So it was, I'm the biggest, I'm the baddest.

Starting point is 00:12:27 I had got shot the first time at 16. I ran up on the motherfuckers with the pistol. I ran up on them, you know, 40s. Every time I've been shot, it's been about it. Every time. I've been hit five times, and every time it's about there. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:12:43 But, and at this time, we was coming from the liquor bank on Cren Stocker. That's when the liquor bank was still there. And I ain't going to name no names. I know who they are. But yeah. Yeah. We got into a counterman, and this is how short term I thought my life was going to be.

Starting point is 00:13:04 You know, and how I thought one moment of supposed greatness and sacrifice for the hood would at least give me something. Immortalized. And they didn't give me nothing but a 357 magnum to the stomach. You know what I'm saying? So I've been doing my thing for years and years. Those who know, know me. I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:13:22 We run from the 50s to the hundreds and all that type of stuff. But my enticement with the hood was strictly about vindication and validation. You know what I'm saying? Trying to be vindicated, trying to be validated as a man. You know, I want other men to look at me as a man because I ain't have the man who's supposed to do it. Do it. When you're 16, you just know that there's other dudes around you and that they are respected and that they are treated well

Starting point is 00:13:48 and that they just have proven themselves and everybody acts like that. And when you're 16, you're kind of trying to figure out like, all right, so how do I speed up this process so that people will give me that kind of respect? And this is not just in the gang life.

Starting point is 00:14:00 This is in everything. But in the gang life is where a lot of the time the things that are expected of you is stuff that can realistically get you locked up for 20 years. Locked up. Can end your life? Can end your family's lives? You know, traumatized.

Starting point is 00:14:15 and detriment to your children, all types of shit. But when you're in a vibe and you want to in a race and a struggle for respect, none of that matters. It's like it all goes out the window.

Starting point is 00:14:29 It's the thing that when you step on his shoe, he blow you away. Because it was never about to shoot. It was never about to shoot. You know what I'm saying? It was always about the respect or the disrespect therein.

Starting point is 00:14:40 We've got to wake up to that bullshit. Don't get me wrong, man. I'm, I'm pretty good at defending myself and checking that coming to the system wrong, come around me wrong, like we're going to deal with a little bit here, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:14:53 But I'm not no dummy. I'm not no fool. I understand that I want to go home. I want my kids to see me get old. You know what I'm saying? I want to see my grandchildren, hopefully my great-grandchildren, you know,

Starting point is 00:15:04 and just running around representing something that doesn't truly represent you is idiotic. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So, No, especially as you get older, it's like you hear about shit that going on bad situations, people getting shot, etc. And you're just like, okay, how am I going to avoid being around the next time that happens?

Starting point is 00:15:25 Whereas when you're young, when you're in your teenage years, it's like, damn, I wish I was around to see that crazy shit happened. You running towards that. You know, yeah. They always say they be like, homies get older and they move out the hood. You know what I'm saying? They run from the hood. They abandon the hood. No, they just got smart.

Starting point is 00:15:41 They just wanted to redirect and change their environment So they can have more chances than what they know is already there If they know every time I go to the store, it's a chance I'm going to get shot, bro. I'm going to start shopping at other stores. You know what I'm saying? And you can naturally. If I want to live in this neighborhood, If I know I got to raise a fundamental family foundation,

Starting point is 00:16:03 I got to build something. But I know my kids can possibly not make a home from school, then I'm going to get the body here. You know what I'm saying? For sure. So I got to do. I did I come back all that, you know, but it's the, it's not the new generation, but it's the, it's that hyping at recurring, what we're talking about,

Starting point is 00:16:22 the necessity for validation, the necessity to be vindicated. It ain't changed. You go do 30 years, 25 years in opinion and come home and still want that same validation. We'll sit out and do young dumb shit just so young dumb can look up and think they're not, acting that way. You know what I'm saying? Instead of guiding and leading and put something out,

Starting point is 00:16:45 you know what I'm saying? Shout out to the homie, Bigbosco. You know, that's what he did. He did 30. Came home and started really representing himself as a guy, like somebody who guides the youngsters from the,

Starting point is 00:16:56 you know what I'm saying? Still holding true to the rules of this shit, though. Because without rules, we got dysfunction, man, and dysfunction breeds chaos. And people who are chaotic is a people easily controlled.

Starting point is 00:17:11 You know what I'm saying? If you got chaos, all you got to do is just whatever you. They think chaos is not. You just got to wave that in front of them. They're going to come to you. So we got to wake up and see that that shit. And that ain't no racial thing. That ain't know that's black, white, purple, yellow, green.

Starting point is 00:17:25 Just people. That's just people, human nature. You know what I'm saying? So last night, I got a flat tire in my car, had to get towed. And so I'm sitting in the tow truck with this dude. And he's from a section in L.A. and everything. And he's driving the tow truck and stuff. And he starts telling me a little bit about his upbringing.

Starting point is 00:17:41 and stuff. And I'm realizing like, oh, this is a guy who grew up right in the middle of a bunch of crazy ass shit and decided to go and get a normal job and have a normal life and everything. And I'm like, that's amazing. And when I'm listening to you talk about dudes who went in and did 30 years and then came out and got their life together, I'm like, that's really the job and the struggle of society is how do I, how do we teach people to prioritize themselves in their lives without

Starting point is 00:18:08 having to go and do a couple decades in prison? in order to realize what this guy who's relatively young got apparently just through maybe a really good parents or maybe he was just had somebody in his ear that that made him realize that it was better to get a good job and slowly build up your life and start a family, et cetera, rather than just run around and do all this crazy shit. Yeah. Right. So during all that time, you have any jail or prison bids? I did a couple of, I haven't had a number. So I've not been on anybody's yard Okay

Starting point is 00:18:43 Whatever would This is word It's close to that right But I've had my brushes with the law You know I've did a little stints here Six months there Four months there Never nothing

Starting point is 00:18:55 Extremely violent or irrational It would be shit like You know paraphernalia or DUI You know Obstruction You know say cussing the police out Or getting in their face

Starting point is 00:19:07 You know what I'm saying So you've been kind of lucky in that regard Well I mean And I didn't got my ass whipped a couple times. My police, you know. I remember one time I was in Highland, man. They whipped my ass and dropped me off in an essay hood like the movie. Like the movie.

Starting point is 00:19:23 Like men and see it. They dropped me off. In the essay hood, bro, and I guess they thought the essays was going to fuck me up, and I just walked up out of there. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't like, oh, they came and took me to the hospital like the movie. Yeah, like the movie. But they definitely dropped me on the wrong side of the tracks

Starting point is 00:19:38 after putting the billy club to a moment. motherfucker. So I've experienced it from that side, you know, and I ain't no angel. I didn't doing my thing too. You know what I'm saying? I'm doing my thing on the other side. Karma is a bitch, you know what I'm saying? A lot of things I feel like I've been through is I planted those seeds. You know what I'm saying? And it's just, you know, chickens coming home to the rules type of situation, you know. Okay, for sure. So when did you start to realize that you wanted to take a step away from this life? Like when did that start to start to come into your mind? my daughter got here. My son got here. Like I said about 09, my son got here. O 10, between

Starting point is 00:20:16 2010-11, my daughter got here. I still, when my son got here, I still had him in the backseat. We were still flying through the turf and all this other type of shit. And then I started realizing that my activity that I'm doing in here and how I'm moving around, motherfuckers see me, they might want to send something my way. I want my kids in the backseat. You know what I'm saying? something happened, I pull up somewhere, going to store, never come out. I started thinking about, like, I started really thinking about that shit, like,

Starting point is 00:20:47 bro, I can go get a fresh white t-shirt in. It's over. Running to the enumigo and it's serving in my son and be in the car. And it's like, this is not the type of life I want. And when my daughter got here, I'm going to tell you some real shit, probably the really shit. To me was, when my daughter got here,

Starting point is 00:21:05 I realized that the man she brings home in the future is going to be me. Whatever, whatever love. whatever I put into her, whatever I taught her, whatever I gave her, that's going to break down into what she's going to receive from a man. Now, I'm showing her how to be loved by a man and how a man's supposed to act and what am a man supposed to do. So that's what she's going to look for when she looked for a man. And I didn't want that representation. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:21:28 I didn't want her walking in the house with somebody. It's like when you sometimes like we ask females, you know what I'm saying? Like you talk about what men are not doing what men are supposed to be doing. but what you want your daughter coming in the house like you are? Exactly. You know what I'm saying? The way you act, your attitude, your nasty attitude, you got a disgusted mouth. Your hygiene ain't right.

Starting point is 00:21:49 All you do is drink Casamigos and smoke big ass blunts off there. You don't brush your teeth. Your weave is stanking. I can see the glue coming off that. What you want your daughter? You know what I'm saying? Going through that, okay then. So I don't want my son or my daughter accepting me

Starting point is 00:22:06 from another young man. And I definitely don't want my boys life being cut short because they're trying to imitate pop. See, Pops, pop started this game and shit. Pops started this because I was an outcast,

Starting point is 00:22:19 my back was against the wall. I came up in a time where motherfuckers was really out there on them streets. You know what I'm saying? Really out there on them streets, bro. My son, bro, y'all got, I was going to say,

Starting point is 00:22:31 you all ain't like, what terminology y'all want to use? They weird, man. Yeah. They're really. them on the tab. They win. They're hard.

Starting point is 00:22:39 They're different from our heart. Yeah, yeah, for sure. They're ganges is different from our ganges. They ops is different from our ops. But I always tell my son, I say, because he don't game, man, he's football. He played football. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:22:50 He's football star, pretty boy type of shit, right? But I always tell him, I say, you winning automatically because I'm here. The fact that I'm here, day one, you won already, bro. You already so far ahead of the game because Pops is here. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:23:04 And me and your mother have learned how to co-parent in a way that's not mentally or physically damaging to your growth and development. We've understood, we found a way to understand how to coexist and still be independent entities without damaging y'all and fucking y'all shit up, you know what I'm saying? So that type of shit's important to me, you know what I'm saying? Now, don't get me wrong. Like, like I say, I'm still affiliated.

Starting point is 00:23:30 I'm in the 80s a week ago, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm in the 50s, three weeks ago. I'm going to always, I was on 54. first earlier today. You know what I'm saying? So these my people, these my folks, this is my family.

Starting point is 00:23:42 I'm going to always be, I'm going to always represent. I'm going to always be associated with the groove, with the age. I'm going to always be from Hoover to the day I die. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:23:53 Finale Hoover, they're skinless. You only end it to winning, all that good stuff. But as an individual, man, I can't, I got to be smart. I got to make my own moves.

Starting point is 00:24:02 You know what I'm saying? And if I can use the groove to help elevate myself and others and give some type of kind of like you know what the homie doing he's doing it in his own way

Starting point is 00:24:12 through the spiritual and the religious standpoint then we got like the homie gumby you know what I'm saying for example who's doing it all the way on that

Starting point is 00:24:22 on the tier level four type of but we go from just like we run from the 50s to the hundreds we run from chalk to charcoal our intellects also

Starting point is 00:24:32 run in that way too and I'm like in the middle don't get it wrong I'm articulate. I know how to speak. I'm trying to do the right thing, but I'll beat your ass.

Starting point is 00:24:40 I will fade. Fade is what I do. I take fades, you know what I'm saying? Like I said, we're going to talk about that a little bit later too, but I'm not looking to take nobody's life.

Starting point is 00:24:51 I'm not looking to start continuous beef with somebody. I'm not looking to, oh, there you go, let me go get to the little, nah, you have an issue with me as a man. We confront that issue. If we got to go to go to blows,

Starting point is 00:25:03 I'll whip your ass and go home. You know what I'm saying? and we ain't got to go X, Y, C, but, yeah. So, okay, you're talking about doing music with people at school, with a cue and shit like that. When do you start making music

Starting point is 00:25:14 and, you know, at what point were you taking it serious enough that all these people wanted to collaborate with you and whatnot? My first show was in 1999. I started writing poetry and shit in them foster homes and group homes. I ain't really have nothing else to really do.

Starting point is 00:25:30 Like that, Foster my, yeah, I didn't have no other outlets. I hadn't. I hadn't been a part of the neighborhood yet. I hadn't went out in the street streets yet. So I was very closed in, little chubby little kid. Motherfell's used to talk about me.

Starting point is 00:25:44 I used to fight all the time at school. And the Fossons group homes, like whoever said something slick, I would just let my anger come out. But then I would write a lot. I would read a lot, read these books. I felt like if I can learn these big-ass words and learn how to manipulate them

Starting point is 00:26:00 and rhyme and poetry for them, that people will respect my intellect and people would stop talking about me and making fun of me and people would see me in a different light because I felt like what I am physically and what I have is not working. So I got to step my little shit up.

Starting point is 00:26:15 So anyway, around 1999, I started going down to Lamert Park. The homie, shout out the homie markets, big blue rag one. He stayed over there. And if you know like the Crenshaw district in that area, like from where the Barwin's Hills Mall is, all the way down to Lamarck Park.

Starting point is 00:26:35 That's really commerce area. All hood's being here. You know what I'm saying? You, you niggins sell them T-shirts. They sell them tree. They got airbrushed pants. It was a hub of business of South Central's economics.

Starting point is 00:26:48 So it really, this shit happened, but that was a place where you can go and have a six-all and a 40 and I'm over and then from the jungles and all that in that little circle right there because they're trying to, one got one of the DVD man,

Starting point is 00:27:00 one's the weed man, all this shit, right? So the homie, Romeo Holloway, shout out 9,000 A block, which is the zip code over there. I was homeless at the time. I was sleeping next to that zebra in Lamarck Park on the bus stop. So every morning, I would go over there to their barbershop. They had a barbershop there, I think it was Pleiartase, tattoo shop, Daddy Dave's Burger Joint, the barbershop, liquor bank, all that, the car wash across the street.

Starting point is 00:27:26 It was major activity. So I used to go over there trying to bum weed. I ain't going to lie. Like, I used to go over there. It's just one of the places you showed up every day. until you became a part of the fiction. Like, then they show up every day. A year later, we don't know how you got here,

Starting point is 00:27:38 but that's the only like. And now we're passing on the blunt. You know what I'm saying? So that was, that's how I used to have to do. Because I ain't know nobody. Wasn't nobody bringing me nowhere, taking me nowhere and all that. And then from where I was from,

Starting point is 00:27:50 I had association and affiliations with the hummies, but I'm not going to lie to you. But I'm not going to lie to you, bro, that first two or three years of banging over, a lot of the hummus used to be like, bro, what is you doing? What's you doing with your lot? You walk around the hood and shot, like, you crash test,

Starting point is 00:28:04 dumb in you got you following other homies like because you know my fucks from the hood click up they got their little clicks and shit they're like bro you following a lot of the homies used to be on my head about doing the right thing and getting back going back to the group homes like had a couple of homies dropping me back off at the Boston like bro get your ass but I started to want to get money and I started to see how other things was getting money in that environment I was in is very a hood's environment economically is is it's like levels to it You can't just sell everything to everybody anywhere when you're from a hood.

Starting point is 00:28:37 You got to get permission here. You got to do this here. You got to know this there. You got to watch yourself because your own homies are, you know, do you. So I'm like, let me go over here. And then Ragg lived over there. I met Romeo Holloway.

Starting point is 00:28:51 He had a 9,000 A block group. And so I would show up every morning when he opened a barbershop and I would ask to hit his weed. He would make me do shit like a sweep out in front of the barbershop or clean up. You know what I'm saying? a message and shit like that since I was going to be around.

Starting point is 00:29:06 Buy me a little t-shirt. He always taught me no matter how much money you got in your pocket, you always go get you a fresh white. Because if you see you, they shouldn't know that you broke. Shouldn't smell that you ain't took a shot. Like, you should be, go steal some deodorant or something. Like, always focus on making yourself be who you need to be until you get there. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:29:25 That's what he taught me. So he was also working with Bobby Valentino at that time. Romeo Holloway is also, he was on the West Side Connections. featured on the Westside Connections album. Oh, wow. I'm not sure that one where it was all black. Yeah, yeah. And it was the, I think one of them had the red rag,

Starting point is 00:29:43 one had the blue rag and the black rag and the black rag. Well, he was on that project. So he had some moves in the music that he was doing. I had always wanted to rap. I did my first show at a Carlisle opening in Hartn, in 99. And I just started to progress from there. Yeah, I'm saying. I moved out to the Dino with my sister.

Starting point is 00:30:06 I started working with individuals there. A lot of early, that's cocaine, funk cave, that old roofless type of environment. You know what I'm saying? All the OGs that came from that era, I was kind of like the little dude around them when I was coming up. You know what I'm saying? So I'm going to tell you one thing, though, about the music in me is that all the music I've done is been off of the fact. to respect. It's not like, oh, this is the hardest on the planet. Oh, he got

Starting point is 00:30:37 on the bread. He paying for the features. My shit was always like the situation where I got a song with Mitchie Slick, right? I got a song with Mitchie Slick. I got that song for Mitchie Slick, that feature for Mitchie Slick through the word of cocaine. Cocaine, they had a song together called Times Gonna Change.

Starting point is 00:30:53 It was one of my favorite songs at the time. I got it, Uncle Coco. I said, man, get it, Mitchie, man. See how much it's going to, see what we can do, man, and all that. I was talking about us three being on the track and me possibly being able to get on because they're doing something. He happened to be in the studio with Mitchie. He's like, he passed the phone of Michigan. Yeah, I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:31:13 And so he like, bro, you ain't got to go through coca, Uncle Coco and none of that. You just, you know what I'm saying? Come at me. I sent him to track. He did it for free. Sent it back. And that's how a lot of the work that I've done is, yeah, I'm saying. It's always been off of the strength of respect being out, being knowing one of them.

Starting point is 00:31:31 That's why I'm saying the most unknown, known. artists because when you say Jay Real de Realis you're like oh damn the singer or the woo-de-whoop and that but if you go behind the scenes man I'm gonna tell you I'm in the background of everything I mean the 7 to 7th when Nipsey used to be at the 7th and 7thes when we used to be

Starting point is 00:31:47 at the world on wield at the rolling wings or rolling ranks I'm talking about back of the day of Lamar Park Project Blow I used to rap it like I've always been in the background you know what I'm saying but so okay from your perspective what's the problem with the

Starting point is 00:32:03 music scene in LA in terms of like people promoting each other you hear this conversation going on and a lot of people want to make it a gang bang in conversation is like dudes in L.A. are too burnt out on the gang shit. It becomes your entire personality. People don't want to hear that shit. And it seems very difficult to come out, come up in this environment which shit is so divided and people don't really want to see other people win. They look at everybody like they're trying to take a spot or whatever like. And that's because it is. West Coast, West Coast rap, or however you want to put it,

Starting point is 00:32:37 what's built on competition. That's what it was built on, you know. It was who got the hardest bars, who's got the, you know, we're talking about corrupt, you know what I'm saying? That was one of my, you know, it was corrupt, and it was like from the South, it was ludicrous, and it was like twisted.

Starting point is 00:32:51 It was all about bars and competition, who's the hardest X, Y, Z. Now it's about clout. It's about cliques. So same, same context, different content. You know what I'm saying? Still the same drive to Fort Tent's.

Starting point is 00:33:06 Still the same drive to be looked at as you doing more or better than somebody else. But now the driver is the clicks, the shares, the numbers, and all this other type of shit, which in the inverse don't produce you no money. No. At least back then, you could

Starting point is 00:33:22 come out of the trunk. You could pull up to a swap me and get out of the trunk, you know what I'm saying? And if you had enough to burn 500 copies, you can sell them bitches as a dollar apiece and still now we're just streaming with all of this is like that like even right now

Starting point is 00:33:36 I'm doing music right now I was just in the studio yesterday like I said me and Pugiaf Roo me and Omar Finan and do another song but I'm not doing music trying to be the next whatever I'm 40 years old I look like trying to

Starting point is 00:33:46 you know what I look like trying to chase that I ain't trying to be you know Drake or Kendrick or nothing I love making music I make good music and over the years I built a fan base I enjoy doing this I'm not going to stop doing this

Starting point is 00:33:58 you know I'm saying I'm always make music I'm working on movie scores we're doing all types of shit. I'm going to continue to put out singles. But in no way am I sitting up here like, this going to be the one this year. You know, this year, this year, we're going platinum. This year we're going platinum because that's not the way it works.

Starting point is 00:34:14 But it is, it's kind of disappointing and hard to deal with the fact that even if you wrote that song that was like the best song you ever wrote. And it's just like it's so unbelievably hard to even get attention on music no matter what. I saw an interview with a Peezy the other day from Detroit. and he was he had a big record that kind of went nuts on tic-tok and everything like that but he was talking about how it costs a quarter million dollars to make a record blow up to the point where everybody will even acknowledge it was just kind of harsh you know i mean you look between between your uh songcast and all your little shit you got to fill out your ass cap you'll be your bonds you're all this other shit you got going on you're streaming your platform your promotion your marketing you got to pay no jumber for a promo post you know yeah i'm saying you got to all of that shit. You know what I'm saying? It's costing.

Starting point is 00:35:02 It's costing. Josh and nojumber. We realized this 15 years ago. Yeah. 15 years ago is when you still start to really see the shift and change in the music from the India. First it was a big drive to go independent. Because in the 90s, labels have been since the 40s.

Starting point is 00:35:22 Yeah, I'm saying? So it's like now we're coming to a place where we're talking about independence. We're talking about, you know, building our own labels. And we got to see that. type of shit within Rockefeller and, uh, and, uh, so, so deaf and, you know, St. Luda, we got to see individuals coming to this music and do it. Like, damn, they did, but then they became the gatekeepers. And I'm not pointing out nobody specifically, but it's like, come on, man, like,

Starting point is 00:35:48 on the West Coast, bro, you ain't nobody unless Snoop say you somebody. If you're on the East Coast, man, Jay got a co-sign you. If you were in the South, somebody like Scarface, you know what I'm saying? somebody own has to cosign you. If not, then you're on the younger side of it. You're spitting all this gang, gang, gang, gang, gang shit. You know, you're spitting about drugs and this and that. But I'm going to be real.

Starting point is 00:36:10 Even those OG cosigns don't really go as far as they used to go. Because over the last 10 years, 15 years, I've seen M&M co-sign a bunch of different artists. Nobody gives a fuck. No offense to y'all. But like, I've seen it. I've seen Eminem do songs of them. Right. Unless people really resonate with that artist, they don't give a,

Starting point is 00:36:28 Look at Jay Z. Jay Z, did a whole goddamn album with Jay Electronica. Right. Nobody gets a... Shout out Jay Electronica because I...

Starting point is 00:36:36 That's my guy right there. He had a moment where I was going crazy listening to his music and everything, but then for some reason there was like a 15 year break and then Jay Z does a whole album with him. Same thing with...

Starting point is 00:36:47 What's that really do with him? I just did a song with somebody. He just did a song with like Davies or something. He did a whole project with somebody. He produced a whole project for somebody. With, uh, well, he did the new MobbD projects, but then also I think Freddy Gives. You know, a lot of shit with, like, a lot of, a lot of those guys.

Starting point is 00:37:02 So I think there's like a fan base now that's like, there's the hip hop purist fan base that just exists, but that's not. It's like there's the drill genre. There's the hip hop purist genre, which is kind of like default producer is alchemist. Yeah, you got to at least touch those projects for people to really put it in that genre, you know? And that's the kind of like licensing that I'm talking about. You got to come with the bag. You got to be able to get into those rooms with those people and them people got to either, You're greas in palms or do it.

Starting point is 00:37:30 I've been able, like I said, to get as far as I am, as far as my discography and all that through just respect, through being in the room, through association, right? And me understanding that, okay, well, he ain't never, just like the shit we're going to get there, too, with the back on Vermont. You know what I'm saying? But back on bloodline or whatever, you know what I'm saying? But when it comes to certain people not blocking or talking shit, it's like, bro, the work speaks for itself. No, I don't, if I had $250,000, I wouldn't dumping it. I would do some with my kids or go to Georgia and buy four or five acres and put some prefabs on it. For sure.

Starting point is 00:38:13 I'm not spending $250,000 so you can be riding around in your car singing my songs. That time has passed for me. That was in the night. That was when I really, you know, we really sought this shit to be what it is. is. But you do got this new genre and generation of individuals who are not making music for music. They're making music to sustain their life. They want to make music because they don't want to have to worry about paying bills. They want to become famous because they want the attention that people get that are in that position. They ain't got shit to do with your love

Starting point is 00:38:43 with music. But if you're a rapper and you can even make a hundred grand a year off of streaming and some touring shit, some merchandise, whatever, that means that you have a big ass fan is going to listen to everything you put up because you need so many people listening to your shit to even be able to make like a decent living. You need to have a serious fan base that would basically make you the kind of person that has like, I don't know, 100,000 people

Starting point is 00:39:08 who really give a fuck about you or more. Well, who walked these, you know, when we look at the titles of what we call the new gen rappers, the Kendrix, the Drake's, you know, the Davies, the people that are in our age ranks, they got co-sons. They got walked on. These people didn't come out of nowhere with the tightest shit ever.

Starting point is 00:39:27 They was on somebody's project. It was incubated. They was fostered, shelter. I mean, not saying it in a negative way, just using the term for what it means. Kendrick was groomed. Kendrick Ma was groomed. To be in the position. He wasn't just some hard freestyle rapper.

Starting point is 00:39:44 Just came off the streets. No, he was groomed. There was levels to his growth and development to where he is right now. Same thing with Drake. Same thing with other. still to this day we see it with TDE. They're masterful at marketing. They put the whole thing together for Kendrick.

Starting point is 00:40:01 They made it happen. Now, granted, that also involved him being one of the greatest lyrics of all the time and really working his ass off, making all this amazing music. But from the Dr. Drake co-signed to all these sort of like intelligent little media things going on tour with the right artists, such as Drake, etc. So many different things had to fall into place in order for Kendrick to basically rise to the level that he's at. But the one, the number one lock, the number one door, the number one key, however you want to put it,

Starting point is 00:40:30 that we never speak about the elephant in the room is J-Rock. If it wasn't for Jay Rock, it would be no Kenji. If it wasn't for Jay Rock, it would be no T-D. He's the one who put in that monstrous amount of work, and he was the one who went out there and got that buzz, and I'm not saying who co-signed him, though. Remember, he had a cosign. Right. He had the Wayne Co-Zon. He had the Wayne Cozine. And that was a big deal for him. And that was a big thing, especially at the time of what it sits in. Now we're looking at martyrism music. Like, you're not even getting...

Starting point is 00:40:57 Look at what Kendrick just did with that last little project with a lefty gunplay on it. Oh, yeah, yeah. He put random individuals that not everybody is familiar with. L.A. guys. Because he was criticized for not doing that, obviously. You know, so I don't know what his mind frame. Well, okay, let me go grab somebody from every section.

Starting point is 00:41:17 Let me go grab somebody, which is masterful. Yeah. But do you see how it turned down for them, especially like lefty? everything just turned on him because he had the combination. He had the Kocon from Kendrick. He's Hispanic. You know what I'm saying? It was a whole factor.

Starting point is 00:41:31 I mean, however he acts and whatever he does. He's sober now. Sober lefty. Allegedly. But what I'm saying is that. A lot of meth heads said that to me over the ears. True. If it wasn't for that with Kendrick,

Starting point is 00:41:42 then that upper echelon of shit would have never. So some people say, you sound like you mad because you ain't getting no kosan. I got on AD about that shit. We did a song like four or five years ago. You know what I'm saying? You may be retweeted it at that time like twice. I've been pushing this till today.

Starting point is 00:41:59 That shit's on my story now. You know what I'm saying? And I'm going to continue to push my music. It's good music. I don't give it who like it or not. I don't give somebody on it or not or don't push it. But I understand the scales of this industry. It's like, oh, okay, you want me to do the song.

Starting point is 00:42:13 You want me to push the song. You want me to come out for a video. You want me to do that. I get it. Things become expensive. I mean, I'm sorry, there are expenses. And then depending on how your celebrity, is rising or who you are, your time becomes more valuable.

Starting point is 00:42:27 I get all that. But, homie, I'm doing songs with you cats about the dirt. They go fast. He was just on Exhibit's new album. He's from San Diego. I worked with him about three years ago. I saw where he was going. That's what I do.

Starting point is 00:42:43 I see artists, and I'll be like, bro, you got that shit. Legendary baller, you know what I'm saying? Older cat, but he got that swag. And it was like, I need a track from you. So Compton A.V. Before all of the, I got certified came out in like 2015. I had a song with Compton A.V. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:43:02 Because I saw all of that. I saw it coming. I saw what it was going to be. And it was like, no, I'm not, I don't want to get a song with you to get on. But I want to get a song with you. So when they go back in the Rolodex, they're going to see Jay Real got a record. You go to Minty Slick, you're going to see. Go to cocaine.

Starting point is 00:43:18 You're going to see. Go to Compton A.V. You're going to see. Go to all of these best. those dudes, the only one, I didn't get Nate, you know what I'm saying? I really want to work with Mr. DeWan Walker, you know what I'm saying, Mr. Free. I would like to do a song with Sugar Free. But for the most part, all of my favorite artists is what I drove to, the people I drove

Starting point is 00:43:36 to work with. And I built relationships with these individuals based on respect, not because I was greasing pockets and talking shit or being the enemy of my enemy. You know what I'm saying? So I can kind of see where this is going, is that it's hard being an upcoming rapper out to L.A. It's hard being a Hoover rapper coming out of L.A. because let's be real, there are at least some people in positions of power on the Crips side and the Blood Side that realistically are going to kind of look out for their own and the Hoosers historically have not

Starting point is 00:44:03 necessarily been propped up by the industry in the same way. The neighborhood is running. Right. Let's just be honest. The neighborhoods have been running the West Coast music industry since the 90s. Since the death row thing. That's what that's what it was. The Bloods and the Crips. But those crips were mainly from the neighborhood card. Right. You know, when we look at Dad's Corrupt, Snoop, all of these individuals come from that side. Battlecat, Dub, C, you know, even when it comes to the, you know, the Insane's and the 20s and the East Side, the East Side. All of these individuals are mainly neighborhood cribs.

Starting point is 00:44:40 So, no, I might not have no animosity with you as a man, but I'm not going to let you in a circle. You are in a mingo. I still got homies. you didn't dust it off. Home girls that didn't die. You know, kids that have been struck by straight bullets and shit. People, you know, you rob and stealing boopty, why we win? But I'm not for the...

Starting point is 00:44:57 So when you looked at that, I finally started to really see this hoover shit within the next last, like, maybe two years, really just start to manifest the way you see him motherfuckers doing interviews. You're seeing them on podcasts. And that's not because we, like, all extra gangster, or we like, mafia, so we don't talk type of shit. And it's not also because we're the most... hated in South Central and so we're scared to come outside.

Starting point is 00:45:20 It's because we've had a long, we've had a long fight to get to where we at because we are the most hated. We are the least liked neighborhood in Los Angeles. I mean, we maybe got three or four hoods that we get along with out of the hundreds of hoods that are in Los Angeles. So every door we've tried to step through has always been shut in front of us or shut behind us to where if one of us got in, Groovy Q, then. it ain't going to be no whole big-ass door.

Starting point is 00:45:49 Look how hard traffic got to work. Look how hard T.F. got to work. You know what I'm saying? I mean, they was just in Kendrick's video. You know what I'm saying? They was just in the video. The homie Floyd. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:46:01 You know what I'm not saying doing this thing. You know, I'm not saying that he's trying to be a rapper. What I'm saying is that these individuals are right there. So we know that the cosign don't always push you to the top because these are things that's breaking bread with these other niggins. And they still unknown people. Because I could be like, I got a song with traffic and T.

Starting point is 00:46:17 but if I told you I had a song with Kendrick Lamar of course because he's been on ABC CBS he performed at the Super Bowl he's genuinely promoted and pushed throughout a mainstream audience but when he come back to the people that's really grinding and trying to do this LA music shit I think a lot of us have realized that we're never going to make it to that place

Starting point is 00:46:35 but we're going to be hood stars not his stars but we're going to be but let me say this though I think that's the problem though I think I think a lot of niggas quit because just going back to what you said about the whole wild West Coast artist not breaking out. I've been living in Atlanta since 2019.

Starting point is 00:46:51 People don't get it. People aren't from here. They just don't. I understand. But here's the cold part. And I'm sure you're a witness to this. People want to watch content about it. People will go watch a documentary.

Starting point is 00:47:03 They'll go watch a podcast all to get in depth in gang lore. But they don't want to listen to the music that's being produced by these individuals. The culture is so foreign. It just doesn't translate. And when you up in the Midwest, in the East Coast and the down south. They have their own individual cultures too, but for some reason,

Starting point is 00:47:22 they're more adaptable than what we got going on. They're still utilizing slang and certain things, and you even got, they crips and bloods out there and all that. But for whatever reason, it's too, this culture is in too much of a niche box to translate naturally. And it's been that way since, I mean,

Starting point is 00:47:39 you might not have never been in South Central, but I bet you know a line from minister's society. Yeah. I bet you might not never have. been in LA in LA County, but I bet you know something from Boys in the Hood. If they don't know, they don't grow, they don't,

Starting point is 00:47:54 so that lure of the West Coast has always existed, but like we're kind of talking about, if you're out there trying to chase that Kendrick spot, you know what I'm saying? There's certain levels to it. There's certain people you got to know certain places you've got to be in and be about. Or you're just not going to do that.

Starting point is 00:48:12 You're going to have to realize that now you're just making music because this is what you love to do. maybe your music can be incorporated with some shit that becomes a part of greatness, you know, but like I said, like I said earlier, 40 years old. I just came from the studio yesterday, but there's no way I'm trying to run a. I do shows, I do all that, but I'm not going with the mind frame. Like, I'm trying to do this for the rest. I'm trying to become the next.

Starting point is 00:48:34 You know what I'm saying? Because that shit's just dead. It's the same thing with this gang bang. It's out here, gang banging hard. When gang banging is dead, honey. Game banging died in the 2000s, bro. If you're still gang banging, I said this on the Bible. way. Shout out to my guys at the

Starting point is 00:48:48 Bibleway. You know what I'm saying? I said this on there. If you gang banging in 2025, you've missed the boat. Go sit your them ass down somewhere. You're getting put on in 2025. You run around still super crypt out pants hanging off your ass, shitty ass draws, trying to smoke

Starting point is 00:49:04 all types of drugs, not dodging your responsibilities as an individual thinking that's supposed to look cool in front of young niggas that's dodging their responsibility. You are burnt out. You need to go somewhere. You need to sit down, I mean, you know what I'm saying? Or go back to the pen, because that's the type of conditioning that you stuck in.

Starting point is 00:49:21 You know what I'm saying? We don't need that type of shit. And like you said, it's trickling to the south. It's trickling to all these other things to where these youngsters now have taken the gang culture. And instead of putting rags and titles only like crips or bluds, they're just going with the full shenanigans. They just drakos and switches. And we ain't got to represent no hood. This, this block, oh, a block, whatever block they threw up on.

Starting point is 00:49:44 They'll just make some shit on. Three letters. That is some weird shit when you realize, like, oh, this city has all these bloods and and crips and shit, but they don't really give a, which is the same as L.A., but it's like, L.A. has had all this time to turn into that. Right. Whereas, like, with these young dudes, it's like, they might be from a blood neighbor, they don't get a floor.

Starting point is 00:50:02 Yeah, like, y'all 12 to 16 out here putting numbers up on the chopping block. You know, and why is that? We can bring that shit all the way back to the beginning of the conversation. What are you trying to validate, young man? do you what do you do you do you like vindication do you need somebody to tell you you a man because taking the life is not going to do it you know what I'm saying but it's we know what it is and what it looks like but but so all that kind of leads up to the fact that I think you as a person who's been making moves trying to really uplift your community and do music and all

Starting point is 00:50:35 this type of shit that you see a platform coming up on the west coast that has sort of like specific Hoover oriented branding and colors and everything in the former back on fig. Right. So you start reaching out to T-Rail and that doesn't go so well. I started reaching out to Smack at first. Okay. When I saw the whole, me and Smack very close friends,

Starting point is 00:50:57 slept on each other's flows, you know what I'm saying, all that type of shit. So we got a long extended history. When they start, when the first, when the back home Vermont cracked off, you know what I'm saying? I was looking at the situation saying, okay, this is a platform for us. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:51:15 You know, your platform have been very successful throughout that time of their conception. There's other platforms that kind of popped up breaking and stemming from this platform. You know what I'm saying? Other people's and whatever y'all got going on, they're going to the universe. And the extent, yeah, you know what I'm saying,

Starting point is 00:51:33 in the multiverse out there. You know, and so, and all of these are pocket areas where one can get that direct acknowledgement, promotion, proper marketing, or have that view to where any other time, just like we was talking, if you don't know, if you ain't in the door, if you ain't in the building, anybody going to know who the fuck you is. But when we got an opportunity to say, okay, well, the neighborhood has been putting on it for years and years and years, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:52:01 And then we got the bloods who complimenters, you know what I'm saying, why, gee, all these, you got all these individuals who really Mitchie, he hold down Daigold like when it comes to this, to this. where I'm saying. Now we got something that's for us. And we got so many motherfuckers that have put in so much work over a long- So much talent.

Starting point is 00:52:24 So much talent. So much work that they've put in over a long extended period of time. And I get it. You got to get yourself to a point to where you can become a, try and become like a no-jumper or a drink champs or something up there.

Starting point is 00:52:37 I understand. You got to get those interviews. You've got to get that content. You got to get that juice flowing and going. But when you get that, oh shit, look, and I'm going to use myself, for example, because motherfuckers always like you're hating and all this shit. Look, J. Real Neen, we know you've been doing music, 15 plus. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:52:55 We know how you get in, whoop-y-wooop, how you get in. You know what I'm saying? Let me extend this invitation to you to not try and put you on, but to give you another outlet and avenue to be seen by our folks, by our people, by what we represent. You know what I'm saying? Like a lot of the humis that they ain't. fucking with right now that feels some type of way

Starting point is 00:53:15 about it, you know? And if you just gonna go and say, okay, well, nah, Jay, real, I'm good because you ain't gonna run my numbers up. I'm gonna go put on, you know, whoever, you know, I don't want to name no names, but whoever's been on the show. Well, is there plenty of people that are

Starting point is 00:53:32 considered adversaries of the hoover's as well as all kinds of other random people and shit, but you would just think that like if you're going to use that kind of branding and if you really are from this place that you would kind of be going out of your way because I know I've interviewed a whole bunch of hoos and really people from almost every neighborhood in LA and that doesn't come from any particular loyalty that just comes from me

Starting point is 00:53:52 wanting to you know support people who are up and coming and a lot of times not even realizing where they're from until we already are coming to yeah until I start doing my research or until I realize oh this guy's not supposed to be on this guy whatever right but I mean to me that's like if you want to put that image out there that's the least you could do now that's when that's what we was now that was initially what it was with the with the back on but long. You know what I'm saying? Initially the extension, I have reached out to smack. Hey, let me

Starting point is 00:54:22 you know, pull up. You know what I'm saying? Even if it's his background couch, you know what I'm saying? Just to kind of get that going on, you know, that view. We got work going on all over the place. I mean, uh, 1952. And we got, you know, we got shit going on. Oh, I got a T. Real run all that. T.rell run all that. You go, you know what I'm saying? You got hollet it.

Starting point is 00:54:45 okay, no problem. You know what I'm saying? I don't really know because I've never seen you before in the hood or never. I've never running to you, you know what I'm saying? I don't really know who you are,

Starting point is 00:54:54 but the homies say you're affiliated. You obviously got all this orange and blue shit going on. You seem to be associated and affiliated with a couple of the homies. And I know your brother is from the hood. I know your brother's from the turkey. Shut up big deal. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:55:08 So, which is really how you really, you know what I'm saying? But that's a, yeah. But so I know of you. I don't know you, though. And I'm pretty sure the same could be said in reverse. You know, but to come at me on some like,

Starting point is 00:55:26 oh, you ain't got nothing that I can use. You don't have nothing that I need, bro. You come fuck with me on this type of time and this type of that. But initially, you know, I'm going to just ignore you because I get it. You from the hood and all that. But I'm about this. I'm about upper echelon. You know, my girl, me and my girl doing cooking.

Starting point is 00:55:45 shows and we doing Power 106 this and, you know, we have the red carpet event. You know what I'm saying? Like your girl won't get smashed. You know what I'm saying? I think sometimes dudes get to a point to what they think they're untouchable or invincible or they're damn vulnerable or impervious to other niggins or other motherfuckers or bullies or whatever. Like, bro, your girl can be snatched.

Starting point is 00:56:08 Your platform can be taken down. Your life can be idiot. I'm not threatening. Nobody's life. What I'm saying? I can walk out the door right now and get hit by a bus. Anything can happen. Some shit could fall out the sky and hit me right now and I can be gone.

Starting point is 00:56:19 So what I mean by saying your life can be in that type of way is that to have that humbleness, to be humble and have an understanding that as I grow, there's other people that could grow with me that I can put on that I can do X, Y, and Z with. And instead of trying to receive validation for who I never was, 56th Street, God, you know what I'm saying, for who I've never been, the work I'm never trying to get value instead of getting validation like that. Let me get my validation through actually with the niggas who are about that life. Right.

Starting point is 00:56:52 Who really actually bid through that. Who I can make some type of influence, some type of change upon their life to where now my respect and validation doesn't come from the work I put in. It comes from the work I've done with that person. And the thing is, is that if you're going to put out that image with your platform, you already know you're alienating a bunch of people. because I know that I mentioned it one time as a joke around 4 extra and X4. I was like, y'all are going to go on back on fig? And it's just, hell no. Immediately.

Starting point is 00:57:24 Because what would they look like sitting on a couch that they immediately see as being representative of their enemies or whatever, which is fair. Of course, no brainer on their part. But what comes with that also is that you should probably embrace the people that actually are proud of your success and look at your success. being kind of representative of where they're from. You should try to lean into that and embrace that. You created a platform that caught, I mean, let's be real, man.

Starting point is 00:57:55 Y'all got that shit from No Jumper, man. Let's just be real. All right. So y'all was here. Y'all broke off from here. Pete, you know, peeping, peeping game, how things were going. Yeah. But fair enough, a million people have done it all.

Starting point is 00:58:06 You should have not. Not a not. Hey, some places are places that are home and some places are school and class. Some places you live in, some places you just learn from. Nothing wrong with that. You know what I'm saying? Monks go up to the temple. They don't go there and live the rest of your life.

Starting point is 00:58:20 And go to figure out how to become monks and then they go start their own province. And I've realized that almost anybody I put on camera here. Oh, yeah, for sure. We can just pause for a day. Yeah. No, I'm right here. I just wanted to. For sure.

Starting point is 00:58:33 Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, bad. But yeah, that's the type of shit I'm talking about it. as far as like, and then it's like, I see the comments. I've got a gang of comments, gang of messages. Oh, you're just, you're just mad because they're doing this and they're not doing this for you and all the X, Y, Z, you bunched up and your career, this and that.

Starting point is 00:58:52 And I'm looking at, we all missing the point. It's the representation of what we are supposed to be standing behind. It ain't got nothing to do with blowing me up or putting me on, because if I had my way, I put my foot in the door and let 10 people in behind me after you. You know what I'm saying? The homie still ain't, like, how much? work he didn't put in. And I said something on a, I did a live and I just said, for whatever reason it just came up.

Starting point is 00:59:16 And I'm like, you know, it's, it's not like I'm nobody. You know, my interview on here probably at like 130 racks right now. That's not little. You know what I'm saying? There's plenty of people who came up here to interviews got 40, 50. You know what I'm saying? So on top of that, I've done numbers, done plenty of things. Not that nobody holds me anything, but, and you should just put a random person on just because

Starting point is 00:59:39 they're a hoover. Oh, I'm over. and they gotcha, get an interview. Right. No. But homies that either are trying to make a wave and have something substantial that they can say, hey, I did this music or I'm doing this for the community, should have an opportunity to come up here.

Starting point is 00:59:53 At least highlight them. At least, because it's not like everybody you've had sit down there is this who's moving the needle. Right. That's not real. If you go through like the past 20 episodes that they do, there's no celebrities. It's all just random homies and shit.

Starting point is 01:00:08 maybe once in a while they get a rapper who was kind of... Fake-ass beef day was trying to administrating all this other shit. That's why... And that's another... Go ahead. No, but that's the whole thing is he tried to act super high power. Like, bro, you're doing four-hour live streams that, like, how much would it hurt you to have the homie who's been killing himself trying to make his music pop off for the past

Starting point is 01:00:29 10, 20 years to come in and ask him some questions for 30 minutes. I mean, you get a freestyle spot. Yeah. Literally. What is that? How hard is that? Let the people just because you bring, like I said, Garbitos, man.

Starting point is 01:00:40 The last couple of... I used to be vivid because I love Schmack. That's my brother. You know what I'm saying? And we're going to talk about it. We're going to talk about it after this car, all that shit.

Starting point is 01:00:48 You know what I'm saying? We're still going to talk about it. Even after the fade. You know what I'm saying? Not with him, but even after the fade. You know what I'm saying? We're going to be talked about. But my thing is this.

Starting point is 01:00:57 You're... At the end of it, you're getting to the next level walking upstairs that Hoover built. You're not getting to the top floor and working your hammering your name. else, this elevator, Hoover built this elevator. You just happen to be privileged to get on it and hit a few buttons and go to a few floors

Starting point is 01:01:16 when you want to and when you can. But to tell the homies that built the stairs that they can't come upstairs with you, that's weird. That's like if I build a two-story house and I tell the construction crew, y'all not welcome up. You can't come upstairs. After everything's built, setting down, marble floors, you know, everything's washed clean. Bye. Because you're one thing, but like even somebody like Gumby, who's older.

Starting point is 01:01:38 has a shillow to respect to me. Anybody watches him on camera for five minutes knows, oh, this guy's really good, very entertaining. But then thinking about it, Gumby's first time really doing content, as far as I know, was with Real Toon from Texas,

Starting point is 01:01:52 then that makes me start paying attention. And even though he's talking shit about me, I'm like, I got to get cool with this dude. I got to do some content with this dude because this guy's fire. We do a bunch of content together. Now he's doing shit with Unk. And then meanwhile, like, Tira is somebody who like

Starting point is 01:02:06 so should have been tuned into the fact that this guy had some stopout. And he got the reason why he fell out with big deal is because big deal, kind of the same shit you're saying, but on a different level, he was like, yo,

Starting point is 01:02:16 let me do some streams on this platform or whatever. And he was just like, nah, nah, nah. And that's why he could start up with me. Y'all let the feed immunization. Y'all let A.D.

Starting point is 01:02:26 go run off. Y'all let everybody else run. Well, homies can't get no love. And grab a part, but these ain't even the homies. Like, hey, they ain't from over.

Starting point is 01:02:33 You know what I'm saying? And I bring him up because I know him. I try, I try, I try not to bring up dudes that I can't get off this microphone and go call on the phone. You know what I'm saying? I know traffic.

Starting point is 01:02:43 I know TF. I know 80. I know, you know, I know these people. Yeah what I'm saying? I know smack. I don't know T-Faq.

Starting point is 01:02:49 But I know all these, a lot of these individuals personally before it was even music shit. You know what I'm saying like that? And so when I look at that situation, it's like, bro, you're chasing the clout. You're chasing the numbers. You're chasing a bag or whatever you're chasing.

Starting point is 01:03:04 But you're leaving the foundation that you built your house on with cracks in it. You damn near building this shit on sand. It's damn near we can see it's sinking. We can see the left part of the house going down. And where y'all got to administer a fake-ass beefing, and none of y'all are good, neither one of your good actors. I love Smack Patrol, but you're a horrible actor.

Starting point is 01:03:21 You know what I'm saying? So nobody believed that. We saw it coming up. We knew it was wrestling the whole time. And this was in the time, like I said, we're going to go over this part right here and then we'll go over even the conversation after because I was even asked not to talk about this shit.

Starting point is 01:03:35 I was called on the back end, like, please. don't, you know, don't, don't, he was tripping. He was, you know, I was being asked. I ain't going to say beg, but I'm getting asked. Who was saying that's you? That's what I'm saying. Once we go over this, okay. Yeah, it's all in line.

Starting point is 01:03:50 I know you got some recordings I would love to hear. Yeah, we definitely want to go over this because, and my thing about this is that there have been so many episodes where it's not supposed to be about Hoover. You know, back on mental. Rochester is not about Hoover. It's not about 5-1-5-0s. It's just about the culture and the music.

Starting point is 01:04:15 Yeah, whatever's going to. Whatever's going hot, right? And, you know, this person is not affiliated like that and this and that. And then we get messages that are totally at the adverse because I'm going on platforms. And I'm going to tell you, it shortly came after our call-in interview. You know what I'm saying? Because I did the Bible way, which is what made you. want to come in, oh, okay, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:04:39 And then we did our thing, and then shortly after, I'm still, now let me say this. Let me say this before we even get into this. This whole time, I'm still hitting T, Asloom about the show, trying to work with this whole time. And I know, and I see you seeing my messages. Wow. I see you watching my stories. I see you seeing the work that's getting on and getting put in.

Starting point is 01:05:00 You see I'm working with the same niggas that you got sitting on your couch. I'm doing songs with them. It's not like I'm just doing random songs. or everybody. I'm doing songs with the people, the very people that are in the room with you who cannot just co-sign, but you can see it vividly

Starting point is 01:05:14 and you're still, now, okay, what's the business? Man, what's the issue now? You don't like what was said about you trying to use your platform to go above the thing you hired than the homies? What do you think you're superhoo-whoo around is? But my thing is, when Gummy has some criticisms about you,

Starting point is 01:05:29 you're like, let's get him up here. Yeah. Let's do a legendary episode. Now, you have some criticism about T-Rill, and T-Rill's over there trying to come up with content ideas. I mean, shouldn't the light bulb go up. Bring this in the gun here and let's do it.

Starting point is 01:05:42 You want to start, you start fake beefs with your co-host that everybody can see right through. Well, this ain't a beef, but it's definitely a misunderstanding issue. An issue and discrepancy. Why not play off into that? Right. And then I ain't asked for not, you're not paying me to come up here. Some of the homies got to get, some people come up here and they get paid to come up here.

Starting point is 01:06:04 I got on a 10-hour bus ride to get here. I pay $66 for a lift to get over here. And I got to do it in reverse to go back because I got other shit I got to do out of state. This came, I took time off of work to come do this. I spit over $400 to come here and sit here. You know what I'm saying? And it's not because, oh, you know, this is going to blow you up and this and that. This might not nobody ever watch this shit.

Starting point is 01:06:28 I'm not going to watch it for sure. I'm going to watch it. But what I'm saying is this is not the key. This is not the golden ticket. You know what I'm saying? But it's an investment in myself. It's an investment in what I believe in. It's an investment to what I want the culture, my culture and my people.

Starting point is 01:06:43 And I'm talking about hip-hop culture, not just gang culture or black culture. I'm just talking about the hip-hop culture in essence. I want them to have a view of the other side because y'all steadily eating up this bullshit. And y'all think that's how these people, when they turn off these mics, you think this is how these people are. These people are not like that. Let's, yeah. Oh. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:07:03 I'm so intrigued. Hey, I got a couple of them on here. I'm just going to run through them all, and we're going to see you because I'm like, who is this guy? This is the real version of him that the world might not see. This is the version of him that he's not portraying. This is the version.

Starting point is 01:07:20 And then when you ask me, well, who told you not to say nothing about it? Schmad call me shortly after these messages. Like, bro, don't start him out. Don't do this. He don't know who he's talking to type situation. He don't know who you are. he's not familiar. He don't know what you've done,

Starting point is 01:07:35 who you are, X, Y, Z, Stalling him out. He was just drunk. I'm talking about all types of excuses. So I actually might say, look, man, is this content or is this something real? Am I going to pull up on 51st and see this guy and have to get, you know,

Starting point is 01:07:51 active or is this going to be, oh, yeah, you know, that was a great, and if so, why you ain't addressed it like you, like you was just saying, why you ain't come on the show?

Starting point is 01:07:59 Why are you in my, in my DMs, talking like this. Who you talk to? Nigger, this west side open, nigga, 52nd street, nigga T-Rill,

Starting point is 01:08:11 nigga, you're a nobody you're gonna tell me what it is, niggas, I'm gonna say over, boy. Keep talking about it.

Starting point is 01:08:19 Just real quick, as long as you know to do, even from when y'all was working together and all that type of stuff. You ever heard this type of rhetoric?

Starting point is 01:08:28 I never heard him banging like that on camera. That's why it's like, oh shit, you're a secret bang. And you see, you see, you see,

Starting point is 01:08:34 you see, that this is actually his so that way because the people may not be able to see this ain't no AI this is actually that would be some new shit that would say

Starting point is 01:08:43 so let's fuck you nigga no I am nigga I'm gonna about you boys nigga we ain't doing nothing nigga we're like nothing together

Starting point is 01:08:53 nigga you talking about nigga I do what I want to do and I want to do it this is crazy to talk to a homie like that though like to get at a homie like that's crazy

Starting point is 01:09:03 why he respond And let's get into the initial message from me. Groovy guy. Well, I know you're not from the groove. We already established that, but what's with it, man? Niggas need to run an episode because, for real. This shit is becoming unavoidable,

Starting point is 01:09:21 niggins talk to a little chim last yesterday and some other shit. Niggas need to go ahead and put a nigga on the show, grew. You know what I'm saying? So we can go ahead and hash it out and get to it and get to the end of it. Now that, that's what I said.

Starting point is 01:09:36 So that response that you just heard from him was his first response. Like where you even come from, bitch? Look at that rag on your head. Tigger trying to put his eyes in his screen. Get the fuck. Somebody here. Where you better go keep making him this song, what? Referring to the whack this track that I did.

Starting point is 01:10:07 What the fuck you even come from? Ligua, what the what the, I'm talking about? We established some, nigga. You're doing it. You're not from the 50s, young. man. Who was over there your mama over there, man?

Starting point is 01:10:22 Who was over there doing that, man? Fuck up out of here, nigger. You talking to, boy? Crazy in the ball, fucker, bro. Come on. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:10:39 Save all the messages, too. Go show everybody. Right. So now, so this is the one that was the most disturbing. This was the last message. I'm going to play. I'm going to play my response

Starting point is 01:10:53 to all of that. And then I'm gonna play his very last message. And this is why he got to come to the barbershop. Ah. This is why he got to come, you know, because we just don't speak that type of way. But let me, let me. Are you from the 50s?

Starting point is 01:11:08 You, you from Fadles? For sure. You got it. You got it. Do your homework on your homie stock. You feel me? And don't worry about it. You got your own specific disc track coming straight to you since you asked for it.

Starting point is 01:11:24 and the conversation ain't changed. It still needs to be had on. You can laugh all you want to. Still got to be had them. And we're talking about that conversation is the representation of Hoover and how he's representing it in a way that's facetious

Starting point is 01:11:41 and a lot of times exploitive. Exploitive. And it's making some of us look a certain type of people who are not from L.A., who watch back on Vermont, they interpret This is Hoover.

Starting point is 01:11:55 This is how Hoover's on. This is how they talk. This is how they act. This is who these are them. But we don't act like this. We don't. Nigger on West Side Hoover, nigga. 52nd Street,

Starting point is 01:12:07 nigga, like I said, nigga. 50s, nigga. What's wrong with you, nigga? I don't know. Who the fuck you think you're questioning, boy? And I don't get to fuck

Starting point is 01:12:16 about no disc track, nigga. It's crib, nigger. Fuck wrong with you, nigger. Diss me a hundred times, nigga.

Starting point is 01:12:24 God. out here, nigga. You better ask about me, nigga. This Hoover though, nigga. Really 56th Street, nigga. Are you kidding me? Are you what?

Starting point is 01:12:39 The f*** is like you, niggas, me, nigga. I can't utilize anything you got going on. On the set, nigga, on who I can't utilize nothing you got going on. What's wrong with you, nigga? Niggas ain't for the, nigga, you ain't bullying

Starting point is 01:13:00 no scene with me, nigga, on. West Side Over, nigga, you ever see me on hooping, a nigga on my mom, I got one arm, I'm a steal maniac the scene on hoop, I'm just trying to tell you. But that's, that's cool, though. A niggas like you, bro, niggas like you. So before we finish,

Starting point is 01:13:15 maniac the scene. That's worse than bullying the scene. Now, I'm just saying, is that, or is that not a call-out? Call-out. Of course. If I see you, if I see you with one-or, I'm going to, okay, let's finish this. Oh, God.

Starting point is 01:13:29 You could have utilized me. You feel me? Instead of doing what you doing, What's wrong with you, nigger? The fuck, nigger. You better stop listening to niggas. You feel me? What you're going on, my little brother?

Starting point is 01:13:45 Nika, I'll have my little brother knock you out on hooping, nigger. You stupid, nigger. This is a family affairs, nigger. What's wrong with you, nigger? Little chim, over here, callie. Cahoole, nigger. Nigger, make a hundred dish songs, nigger. nigger, what's wrong with you,

Starting point is 01:14:15 nigger? On my mama, nigga. And so this is... You got sitting front of the screen, nigger, for 15 minutes and make more money in front of it. Way more money than you. You got out of here,

Starting point is 01:14:25 nigga, you know the fuck I am, nigga. Weird-ass, nigga. Wow. That's what we come to. And I, you know, we come to a point to where not only is you super hoover now.

Starting point is 01:14:39 Yeah. Super big, groovy, 56th street. God. Oh, God. Fingling, ready to mangle and... Massacre. Maniac. Now, you see my responses.

Starting point is 01:14:52 Yeah. I can get just as a good and all the type of course. But you see how I respond because once again, we as Hovers have a code of conduct. There's rules and regulations. You just don't... What type of Hoover do that? What type of Hoover talks like this? You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:15:09 Right. Even when it came to Gumbia and his overexertion, He overexerting on facts. He's overexerting on things that are concrete, not foolishness. I'm the hardest move on the planet. I'm the God. Once again, you talking to your own homies like this, while you let the enemigo sit on your couch and smoke weed with you and talk with, you know.

Starting point is 01:15:32 Now, don't get me wrong. Nothing against nobody that has sat on their couch. And it's not no animosity between gang shit, because I just told you earlier, if you're gangbanging in their 25 is an issue with you. But when we're looking at the country, context of what we're talking about. You rather come at your own homie like this.

Starting point is 01:15:50 Knowing that what you're talking about is not valid. You know I'm from the term. You know I'm from the Phillies. Like, you know that for a fact. So you coming to me like that is like, wow, okay. And then you're saying you're going to mangle me if you see me. So, you know, that's

Starting point is 01:16:05 like automatic, literally zero percent of people watching this right now think that there's any truth to that. What? zero. It's hard to get to zero. Like one percent is like zero. And I'm not because, you know, they listen and people be listening and folks will be looking at it. And I'm not here for diamonds. I ain't here for that stuff. So I'm not going to pose it like, oh, oh, he threatened me. Y'all heard it. You know what I'm saying? So now, no. That's what we're going to keep it. You know what we're going to keep where it's supposed to be, right, within the family. But at the same time, I go, I automatically get off the, get off of that. And I send smack. these messages. I send smack these messages

Starting point is 01:16:46 because you can just forward your DMs to another person. Yeah. Because you forward them to me. I said to smack. It was me and me and you was laughing like a father. I was like, where's this guy?

Starting point is 01:16:56 What type of blue choose you on? So I immediately send it to smack because at this point of time I need to know is this serious? Is this something that is a serious situation because we do frequent

Starting point is 01:17:11 the same areas. There's a very good chance that I might pull up or you might pull up and we're going to see each other. There's going to be a event or there might be a funeral. There's going to be a good chance

Starting point is 01:17:21 that we're going to see each other. So is this? Because smack asked me about the back on, about the viral way interview. He was like, is it real or is it content? I told him the subject matter is real, but you know, we make it content.

Starting point is 01:17:36 I'm still trying to push this and that, but the conversation needs to be had about how y'all representing Hoover. That's when the video start coming out. This ain't about Hoover. This ain't about the hood. This ain't about that. But then you see how I talk to them. Look, let's get on the show.

Starting point is 01:17:50 Let's have a conversation about this. Brother, this shit needs to be talking about, oh, you have a 50-6th Street card. Digger, I'm a mangle. You all this other type of shit, right? I sent these messages to Smack. Smack, I guess, had a new phone or a different phone. But traffic, we all know, we all know each other. Smack called traffic. Traffic called me and said, huh, here's smack new number.

Starting point is 01:18:10 Call him. This is maybe within the five-minute gap of me sending the messages from T-Fake to Smack. Like five minutes later, right? I get this call from traffic. Here's a smack number. Call him. So as I pick up the phone, hey, grow, stall him out. He faded.

Starting point is 01:18:30 He don't know what he talking about. You know what I'm saying? He just lit. Starved him out. Please don't, don't, don't. You know, I ain't saying he was begging. Like, I ain't putting it on like Smack was begging. But what I do believe is that smack understand.

Starting point is 01:18:41 that he's trying to build something. Yeah. That he's a part of something that he wants to progress and having those little sidelines, especially when it comes so close to home. This Hoover business we're talking about. That's Hoover business. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:18:56 That ain't got nothing to do with no podcast. They ain't got nothing to do with no rap music. They ain't got nothing to do with no culture. How you're talking to me right there, that's Hoover business. And say what you will about Smack, but Smack is outside. Like smack can't really just be like talking to

Starting point is 01:19:11 somebody that he might realistically see in the neighborhood and be like, hey, I'm going to fuck you up if he doesn't actually believe that. So smack is out here living in reality. And then you got T-Rail off in Woodland Hills or whatever, basically just running his mouth, acting like he could beat up people that he can't beat up. Acting like his brother is going to beat you up. Your brother ain't doing shit for you. Your brother don't like you.

Starting point is 01:19:30 We've already, you know, like I said, who will business is who a business. But those conversations have been had established already amongst who they need to be. Big deal. It's not doing some goofy shit like that. not going to happen. It's not happening. It's not at all. If anything, it was like rag. They called me Little Blue Rag, 50 second, Overstreet. So it's, it's more like Rag, you good. Don't even what? This is just wu-ty-whoop. So where other homies is hearing about this dude and don't know who he is. Homies is coming

Starting point is 01:19:57 home from the P.N. Learning this internet shit, learning about this podcast shit, and they keep hearing this nigga's name in a negative light coming from little homies. Homies. Homies is coming up with the big homies. Like, we got to do something about it. This is. Tribble, well, well, well, well, well, Because I'm here, the homies here, to represent what we're talking about. But there's a whole field of individuals that feel exactly the way we do. We're just here voicing how they feel. It's a gang of homies that ain't been on, back on Vermont.

Starting point is 01:20:26 You know what I'm saying? It's a gang of homies that's tried to reach out, that's tried to show up. And it's like being pushed to the side. Come on, smack. You know you got, you didn't have all types of people up there. Just like when we were talking at the conversation. Most of the dudes at the table when we was on the phone conversation, was like, oh, yeah, I've been up there.

Starting point is 01:20:43 You know, I ain't ever had no problem with this. I ain't ever had no problem with that. Okay, well, where's the problem at? You know, we did. Why certain niggas not getting through the door. That's the real question. Who'd be effing rude. We getting ready to do some music.

Starting point is 01:20:53 We was on the robber way, right? Now I see you back on feed. You know what I'm saying? I see you go on the show. Okay, well, obviously he was still engaged in the same type of conversation. He wasn't like pointing at y'all, but he was in understanding and in agreements to what the situation was. you let him on the show.

Starting point is 01:21:12 But it's crazy because that's how me in the Viro Way ended up getting super cool is because of the fact that when the Viro Way, T-Rail reached out to them to basically do content and the Viroir were like, yeah, like we'll go on your show, but you should come through Long Beach and come on our shit too. Like we'll do like a trade or whatever. And T-Rail's reaction was basically like, hell no, I ain't going on your rinky-dink little-ass show. And it's like to me that's just crazy.

Starting point is 01:21:36 Like your view counts are not some crazy shit. You are not Joe Rogan. You are a dude doing street content in LA, et cetera. And that's how, like, me and me and the viral way ended up kind of hitting it off because they realized that I was somebody that's like, yeah, if you're going to come and fuck with my platform and support my shit, then I don't think I'm bigger than you to pull up to drive 45 minutes on the highway to go do your podcast and Lombie. It's not a big deal.

Starting point is 01:22:00 It's not a big deal. And realizing that he just has that vision of himself in his head. But really, I think that's what's kind of up his fan base because, you know, they're rocking like 10, 20% of the viewership that they used to do because the fans kind of realize, oh, this dude is not really on the shit that he's acting like he's on. He don't really respect to the people that support him.

Starting point is 01:22:20 Even the fans, like, he'll say right to the camera, like, I don't give a about you. If you don't want to watch this shit, don't watch this shit, I don't give a and that's such a huge turnoff. The Uber is amazing. Just the, my shit don't stink. T. Reel

Starting point is 01:22:35 is amazing. You know what I'm saying? Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not taking from what they have done over there. I don't want to take from that. I don't want to exclude that the work that they've had to put in long hours, they've had to do X, Y, Z, whoever's

Starting point is 01:22:52 doing it, whoever's doing this, setting that up. That stuff takes work. So I acknowledge that, right? But what are we talking about here, bro? We're talking about somebody who thinks they're bigger than the program. Yeah. You think you're bigger

Starting point is 01:23:07 than the program. And nobody is bigger than the program. And if you think that certain things you do are not going to come back around to confront you, then you got more things coming than you know. I even suggested them changing the name. Call it something else. Because like I said, they're putting out videos about this.

Starting point is 01:23:33 I got nothing to do with Hoover. Orange and blue everything in the background. Yeah, yeah. It's got nothing to do of Hoover, but you're grooving and because. and cousin and grooving every other word come out to your mouth. You're doing personal Hoover Stomp videos. When I seen that, I said, why is T. Real doing a hooper stop video?

Starting point is 01:23:49 I seen this girl throwing up H's and throwing up. She's been doing that forever. Right. Yeah. What is that? You're a white girl from Texas. Don't do that. Not only you not from the hood.

Starting point is 01:24:00 He not from the hood. So what are we doing here when it comes to like the homie Bosco who did 30? What are we doing when we talk about like the Humby Gumby who didn't put work. The homie, that's my homie guerrilla, Hebrew, who's massing the a h down people to throw, but with clarity and guidance and opening their minds to diverse thinking about

Starting point is 01:24:20 religion and purpose. Putting the eight, stand for the H on it every time. And you ain't got him on this. This is one of the most positive hoover's on the internet, period. You're not going to go find a more positive representation of Hoover on the internet nowhere. I ain't told you,

Starting point is 01:24:35 a religious standard or spiritual standards aside. You're not you're not going to see nobody in everybody who are working with nonprofits, organizations, all of this stuff. The enemy people, all the enemigos, all of that type of stuff. At me, you should at least have a Hoover hotspot or a Hoover highlight where every Friday you all take 15, 20 minutes out to focus on somebody from the neighborhood that's doing something positive or contributing or giving back.

Starting point is 01:25:06 You want to focus on putting the youngest, hottest, newest, newest, rapper you're trying to do on there and then you, like I said, bro, you don't, you know, radio personality, you're cooking, you're walking, you're doing everything. And now you're super. Hoover over in your DM.

Starting point is 01:25:24 God. God. You're God. I'm going to tell you what's crazy too because, you know, milk, milk gets put on and promoted a lot of hoover artists and platforms and got them known.

Starting point is 01:25:36 So the first time Gumby was ever even on back on fig, he didn't go up there. Smack called him in and it was talking about milk. So Gumby was exploited to be anti-milk in the situation through a phone call on back on Figg, but you won't let Gumby come tell the story. He got to come up here to tell his story. That was like two years ago when that happened. Your supposed opposition. You know what I'm saying? They got to come to your supposed enemies and all that. When that itself is retarded, excuse me, I mean to say that word, that itself is ridiculous. You know what I'm saying? within itself to think

Starting point is 01:26:09 that a genre of individuals doing something is actually at odds when I get the competition. Cool, you know what I'm saying? That's why y'all got podcast awards and shit like that, you know what I'm saying? You let the people decide

Starting point is 01:26:22 who's the best watch, who's the most like. You let the people decide that. You don't try and systematically take people, courts people, lie, and then act like, you know, oh, I get it all this myself. Every time somebody leaves no jumper,

Starting point is 01:26:37 Hey, where's the first place? Yeah, what's the first place they're going? Yeah, yeah. They're watching. But the thing about it is, you're watching the wrong way. And for you to come, like I said, Schmack, I love you, you're my buddy. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:26:50 And I did tell you that I would leave it alone in the moment, but this has been over a month or so since this happened. No resolution. No resolution. I'm not, I haven't been contacted by him on any spectrum from the, oh, let's talk, let's do a show. My bad. Or my bad.

Starting point is 01:27:06 Or me, me on 51st. I ain't heard nothing from you, period. But you're this big old guy and you know, you're doing all of this shit. And guess what? Like I said, on the message to him, you got it. You got it. Yeah, you can sit in front of the screen

Starting point is 01:27:21 and make, you know, way more than 50 men. You sound like... You sound like a woman. You sound like a woman. Throwing her new Birkenbag in another woman's face at the nail salon. That's what you sound like when you say dumb ass shit like that. Oh, you can... I can't get

Starting point is 01:27:37 nothing from you, you can get everything from me. Well, give me an opportunity then, which I've already been actually, if you if you can open so many doors and you got it like that where I can learn from you, I can use you, then why aren't you being you? Why don't you let motherfucklers use you in that manner? You know what I'm saying? But you got to remember that T.Rale is somebody who was raised

Starting point is 01:27:55 by his mom. And so I think that that's a big part of why he's got like feminist tendencies. Summer time to the hood type of dude. You know, he summer school let out, I mean, school let out for summer. Now you're in the hood. Yeah. One of them type of guys, you know, you know, I knew a lot of guys like that from, from San Bernardino. Shout out to the dirty division in the D, you know what I'm saying, chemo and dash and on them.

Starting point is 01:28:17 But I knew a lot of guys like that from San Bernardino, you know what I'm saying? Weekends or summers, they be in L.A. Then, you know, when I was living out on the Dino, then they come back and they be. They be from somewhere. Now they're from Pahru, they're from who. They from this. Now they're the hardest dude out here, but not respected at who. type of thing, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:28:38 And so we understand how you played your game and how you got your position or where you at. We know who your family is. We know who, how connect, you know, what your connections are and how your affiliations work. You have to understand that there is a code of conduct to this type of stuff. We all know that.

Starting point is 01:28:56 You're not going to invite somebody. Like you said, it took you a while to figure it out. But damn, you know, it maybe had to be, damn. I got the neighborhood and a hoopoeuvre on the short of the same time. I didn't, the fuck. I got to blow it in it. Somebody just got laid down. down last week from the head. I didn't know about that. I'm just trying to create content,

Starting point is 01:29:10 trying to be, you know, this and that. But as far as their concern, they have vivid tapped it. You, you're there. Like smackers in the street. You're there. You know when stuff happened on Manchester. You know when stuff is going down over my mind. You know what happened yesterday and this and that, next Y, Z. You know the individuals that were, that might have been not participated, but affected by whatever is going on. So you have a better sense of understanding then this guy over here who's pretending, and that's why that car came through like stall him out. Leave him alone. He does not know who you are.

Starting point is 01:29:45 I told you earlier. I'm the most known, unknown, nigger in South Central Los Angeles. I'm known by so many people, but so many people, you guys, who's Jay Will, and they ain't going to know. And somebody told me I should use that as my gimmick. Like, you know what I'm saying, you know, being this and that. It's not about being known. I put in my work long time ago. I did what I had to do long time ago.

Starting point is 01:30:04 I've paid my dues. I've took my bullets you know what I'm saying I've done all of that type of shit and I've helped try and reform I feed we gave out 257 boxes this last Saturday

Starting point is 01:30:15 at a nonprofit to the homeless people I ain't get paid for that you know I'm saying it wasn't community service that was court ordered I did that because I wanted and I took my kids because I wanted my kids

Starting point is 01:30:24 to see how they can maintain social economic I mean communal economics without having to go to Walmart without having to invest in capitalism in the way that it is That's a whole different subject matter.

Starting point is 01:30:36 But this is the type of shit I'm on. But this is the type of shit you own. You think you're going to continue to progress. You think you're going to continue to elevate. You think your fan base going after watching this show, you're going to lose 2, 3% of them. I know that because they never heard you speak like this. For sure.

Starting point is 01:30:54 Even to you, even at the height of y'all arguments and y'all little beef going back and forth with your videos and buck them and this, I ain't never heard them talk about no. 56th Street, God, Hoover Crip, I'm going to mangled you. I'm going to do all of this other stuff. And that's what the fans hate is they hate when there's a disparity between what you'll say on camera and what you'll say behind the scenes.

Starting point is 01:31:15 And because I remember there was one time where I said like, yo, you never got put on. You are not even from the place that you front like you're from. And that just stands out to me because he cried talking about it on camera. He was crying saying, ain't nobody on earth who can tell me that I ain't from Hoover Street. Like tearing up. I'm like, that's not normal.

Starting point is 01:31:36 That's not normal. You're not supposed to tear up saying where you're from. I finally made you say where you say you're from. Right. And now you're crying. That's weird. Finally, you let us all know what it is because everybody else has been saying you're not a failure. Everybody else has been saying that it really has nothing to do with no street or no this and that.

Starting point is 01:31:51 It's about the culture. It's about this. It's about giving a section some, like we said, the neighborhoods really didn't ran the bloods, this and that. Even when we talk about like King L'LG and all the, you know, the Hispanic. rap scene, you know what I'm saying? People that have been putting on in their sections, you had an opportunity and have an opportunity to shine a light on the section that's been in the dark for a long time. And this is how you decide to use that position in your life. It was crazy because we got to go back, because this go even before that, this go back to Tiger

Starting point is 01:32:22 when he was with Tiger. Now, I remember when he got with Tiger and it was a particular homie up out the 50s that told me like, hey, Tiger from the set, ah, this is what somebody told me, right? And I'm like, Shout out H crown. With you, it wasn't H crown that told me, but it was through that association. Shut the free age crown and all that, right?

Starting point is 01:32:40 Free age crown. So I'm like, okay, Tiger's with the homies. Cool, you know? So, you know, I start getting off in the tiger. So this is how I even see about T-Rill through the association with Tiger, right?

Starting point is 01:32:52 But I see him, he's on tour. They're going on a big tour, Tiger. He's orange ragging all that. Okay, cool. Like, the homies is through the door. That's how I'm looking at it. Right.

Starting point is 01:33:00 So you're supposed to be getting us through the door. You're supposed to be shining that positive life. You're supposed to be that avenue, that venue for us. And then now you're there and you're going, nigga, I'm too big for you, nigga, I'm, like, that ain't the way to be. Kiss the ring. You're coming with that kiss the ring attitude. Like you ain't talking to Don

Starting point is 01:33:15 Don't Coke, but that's a different. And you're not, you're not where you, at the height of Tigers room, it ain't Rack City no more. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, you should definitely be humble, even going back to when the big exit is happened here. Because that was like right after the first time I came here. I came here all of a sudden a month later, everybody left.

Starting point is 01:33:31 Right. Right. Right. Right. So. So. So. So. but I watched you. You know, you, let's figure it to fuck out. You know what I'm saying? What do we do? What's going to be the next thing? And you got to be innovative in this content space. Instead of doing that, he's like,

Starting point is 01:33:42 nigga I'm too rarely doesn't matter. I'm going to get here and I'm going to run a chili up and everybody's going to watch me. And like you said early, he's got to be more humble than that. Because you're not, you're not going to keep prospering in this space or in life in general with that mentality and treating people like that. You think that you think you're on top of the world.

Starting point is 01:33:59 You think your girl can't get knocked. You think that, you know, you got the bag. super bag and all this other type of stuff look man you one foot in front of the other like everybody else bro except your accept your blessings

Starting point is 01:34:13 as a privilege that you've been handed to be in a space that now many many people can get to and I think smack honestly is getting kind of tired of the disrespect and I feel like smack's kind of hanging on because the money is appreciated by him but I've seen clips of the way he talks of smack and I'm like

Starting point is 01:34:33 damn, you're going to fuck up the one thing that makes this shit work is that you got this co-host that actually has like some real passion and energy and is really from where it's right. He actually got validity. He actually has the name. He solidifies you. He makes you what it is that you're talking about. Without smack, you wouldn't, it would be just back on back. That's it. You know what I'm saying? It wouldn't be nothing else but that. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Your affiliations and your associations with your brother and the hummies, we already know how that worked out, went, and all this other type of stuff. But smack is the cape that helps you fly across the city and save the world.

Starting point is 01:35:10 You know what I'm saying? Without Smack, you don't fly, honey. And when we, and my homie is not your mascot. My homie is not your mascot. He's not your pushover. He's not your, you know, kid with the dummy hat on in the corner, you could just kick in the ass and laugh about them falling. And I know Smack going to have something to say,

Starting point is 01:35:28 it's not like that, but the eyes see different. When we watch your interactions and we watch how this is, it's like, come on, bro, I'd rather you just get your own show. I'd rather smack just start his own show, and it'll be way more intuitive and it'll be way more ready to watch. Because he has that spirit of being an act, of being of showmen. You know what I'm saying? He has that showmanship as an individual. T. Real, you just obviously were in the right place at the right times and are exploiting and taking advantage of those right places and right times. but your shit running short and it's running out.

Starting point is 01:36:03 And like I said, especially after this, bro, you're feeling to lose, bro, because like, who is you, first of all, you contradicted yourself so many times, just in them few messages from all the work you put in over all this time. You shitted on so much of what you said you represent and who you are and how you move it, just in a few sentences because you either can't hold your liquor or maybe you're jealous of the real. I don't know. Maybe it's because I really am from the turf. Maybe it is because I really, because you looked me up and you've seen I got all of this.

Starting point is 01:36:31 shit going on and maybe it's like, well, damn, that's the homie, but I can't let him get, I can't let him get too much. I don't want to look at it like that, but how many times do we really, really encounter that type of hatred? And like I said, you sound like a female. I'll make more money than you. Or I can help you. You can't do nothing for me. You sound like a girl that's, that's, that's arguing you down about how she can get somebody else to fuck her in a heartbeat. You know what I'm saying? I don't need to be with you. I got, I got niggas all on me. That's how you sound when you come like that, huh? Sound like a bitch.

Starting point is 01:37:01 And that's why I said it's still T-Rill. And I don't even want to, like, bring this up because I feel like we haven't fully started to seem like like we're hating, hating. But there was that clip that came out of T-REL and Turks where he sees academics in the club. And he had been talking crazy about academics, and then people see him going over there

Starting point is 01:37:22 and trying to get a shot. Let me see that bottle of water, man. Trying to get a shot from him. How do you let the motherfucker do this to you? Like, bro, hold on, wait, bro. Even just as a dude, that's something. But as a Hoover, Crip.

Starting point is 01:37:34 But you're supposed to be 56th Street God. What the fuck? It's supposed to be one arm, monster and mangling it is. Massacre. This is your enemy. This is your podcast enemy.

Starting point is 01:37:45 This is your podcast. But then the shit you got to watch is you got to watch the clip of academics reacting to T. T.R. Describing it because T. T. I went in that bitch.

Starting point is 01:37:55 I bullied the whole scene. And it's kind of like, like, AC is laughing. his ass off dying fun out of a chair. You look like a stripper in a section. I mean, you got my father's pouring drink in your mouth. To the fans, like the fans are like,

Starting point is 01:38:06 how can I take you serious if you were acting like you were on some tough shit? And we all saw. Yeah. That's crazy. Act drove the boat. That's why. So, and then as soon after that, you got a deflection, direction of, oh, come on, smack. Let's fake a beef real quick.

Starting point is 01:38:23 Yeah, right. Like, oh, that'll fix everything. They'll fix everything. They'll forget. They'll forget. Let's just, you know, fake a beef and this and that. No, bro, we ain't forgot how weird you are, man. You're a weirdo, bro, you know, and I ain't know, like I said, I don't want to,

Starting point is 01:38:37 ain't no, like, defamation of character. I'm not trying to, you know, put it in a position of where I'm, like you said, it just sounds like continuous, hey, we'll do, we'll, we, we're, we're, we're, we're we actually move on to the next subject matter, you know, but I just want to tell you, I need, I need to see you at the barbershop. That's, that's, that's man, though. I don't care if it's now, 10 years from now, 20 years from now, or in the afterlife. I need that

Starting point is 01:39:00 I don't you don't talk to me like that you need to ask who it is you're talking to or talking about I'm pretty sure smack told him afterwards and that's why I haven't heard

Starting point is 01:39:11 anything from him because if you would have had and not gave him all types of bitches and this and that then you would have had no problem you know picking that number one

Starting point is 01:39:21 at the barbershop you know what I'm saying you would have no problem for that so we understand what it is I'm gonna need that now I'm also probably, you know, trying into here and rap, like,

Starting point is 01:39:31 I wish you progressing in positivity and I wish you abundance in what you're doing. We all want to see him win. I want to see you win, right? But it could get lonely in that winter circle when you ain't got no team, bro. And it can get very scary when you're walking that trophy back to the parking lot by yourself.

Starting point is 01:39:49 That's all I'm going to say. You know what I'm saying? Forefacts. Yo, so tell me about this book. Landed No Pity Man, the South Central Story. This is my, um, autobiography, just about being born and raised in South Central, all the, some of the stuff that we went through in the beginning of the interview. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:40:08 About, you know, my relationships, my time in the foster system. Wait, you broke out of jail? I just seen a title. Jail break. Yeah. No, I did not. Oh, yeah. I'm not one of them.

Starting point is 01:40:21 The New Orleans. No, that was the, um, that section of the book. because when I was incarcerated. Got it. And so it was kind of just... Oh, a break. Yeah, like jail break. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:40:33 I made some mistakes in my life and I had to go sit down for a couple months. And that was just the stuff that I went through at that time, you know, separations to kids, fighting with alcoholism and just all this different stuff going on, you know. I tried to put it in perspectives to where it's understandable by those, by everybody who can read it, but still give it its own.

Starting point is 01:40:58 vivid signature because foster care, gang banging, I mean, this is a regular rhetoric what you think about LA, nays. Let's just be honest. You know what I'm saying? Like, my story is everybody's story from L.A. and not just black people. It's just anybody who's L.A. County has they either got jumped or robbed

Starting point is 01:41:14 at one point in time or somebody that tried to throw it. You didn't ran and encountered this culture in some type of way. So my thing was to be able to tell my story and hopefully it gives articulation to those who don't know how to articulate theirs. You know, I speak about being essay at a young age in the foster system, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:41:32 I speak about the joining the gang and what we were talking about, the pressures of a young man trying to find his rights of passage through the street and all of this stuff. And maybe it's some frustrated young dude out there who got that all up here, but he don't know how to articulate it. He doesn't know that somebody else feels exactly the way he feel and been through what she been through and X, Y, Z. So I put this out for that reason. And the other reason is, you know, just being honest, bro, I wanted to make something tangible. I wanted to create something tangible that my children can hold and pass down to their children. They'll always be able to say, okay, it's reading time.

Starting point is 01:42:11 Go get Paul Paul book off the shelf. That's powerful. You know what I'm saying? And I know everybody got books, you know, a lot, not everybody got books, but nowadays, especially with this chat, GBT and all of this AI Yeah, you can just type some shit in and it took me 14 months to write that. I self-published it. It took me eight hours

Starting point is 01:42:29 to study how to publish it myself and it took me 10 hours to publish it on the Monday. So that was, and I still got tweaks and kinks and all that. But this was my message to the world but my gift to my children. Daddy, daddy been doing what he doing a long time. Music, this, now I'm getting into act, all that.

Starting point is 01:42:47 But realistically, I probably won't become a Bill Gates. I probably won't have money like Elon Musk. I'm not saying it's not possible. But I, you know, and I'm not saying I won't work or drive myself to going towards that. But the reality is, it's in between that mission. What can I do? What can I create now? Like I said, tangible, they can hold, they can see.

Starting point is 01:43:08 That's a product of not just their father's mishaps and cups. Yeah, I see empty shot bottles in the trash can. That's what I know my dad for. No, I see books on the show. I see empty beer bottles all over the backyard. that's why I know my dad for it. No, I've got a discography of over 20 years of music. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:43:26 I see my father trying to obscure the perception of my life coming from where we come from. You too, you know what I'm saying, where you come from. Because like I said, we all been in this culture all our lives. You wouldn't be sitting here involved in what you're doing if you didn't have some type of knowledge, some type of background, some type of influence, some type of involvement in this culture. You know what I'm saying? So we all have had that experience. But do we want, do we want them to make,

Starting point is 01:43:53 do we want that to be our resume that's handed to our children one day? Do we want to be known for what we've done? Or do we want to be known for what we do? You know what I'm saying? Because I'm not what I'm doing. I'm doing what I do. So it's a lot of people going to watch this podcast. They're like, oh, he bitching.

Starting point is 01:44:06 He complaining. He's hating. He is. Oh, he's not this. Oh, he lived in San Bernardino for five years. Oh, he, you know, he moved Arizona. He got whatever. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:44:15 It's going to be a lot of that type of shit. But dig through the bullshit. it's not always about the messenger it's always about the message. No, because I'm going to be real with you. Like, despite the little tangent that we had to do to talk about some drama or whatever, like this interview has kind of reminded me of how much I appreciate doing podcast because you actually have a very moving story, you know, coming from the foster care system and all that shit.

Starting point is 01:44:38 Like, I mean, I can only imagine how tough it's been to overcome the feelings that that kind of left you with as a kid. And to see you having such a positive mind state is very, very motivational. It took them babies, man. Yeah. There's something called post-traumatic slave syndrome, right?

Starting point is 01:44:59 And it's like a systemic thought that's pressed on a lot, especially young black males, of short life. Meaning like, I just don't feel like I'm going to live long. Knowing that we can get clap going to the store or this or X, Y, and Z. I'm not getting to it with somebody.

Starting point is 01:45:16 Or I see everybody around. me leaving early. My elders are passing away. The homies, I was just with them yesterday. They're gone. They're not making it to 14, 21, 25. So we have a short life expectancy, mind frame, which allows us to turn on the gene. I don't care. Because I don't know if I'm going to make it to the mall anyway. But you can't build a foundation like that. You can't build legacy like that. You know what I'm saying? You want to, you want to be a long-term investment guy? you want to be a day trader. Go ahead and watch some screens and try and wait for that shit to jump in so you can

Starting point is 01:45:51 hurry up and click the button or invest in something that years and years later is going to grant you the cushion and the opportunity to change the situation of a future, of a family member. We sit up and complain about we got the bag. I'm on. I can do more of this than you and all this shit. I got chili. I got chili.

Starting point is 01:46:07 Where the spoons? Where the bowls? Yeah. Because it's hungry kids out here. So what are you doing, bro? You feeding that, you feed that light skin. You're all the ox tales and all of that. I see how thick she been getting here.

Starting point is 01:46:21 Yeah. I told you your girl, it's not untouchable, bro. You really think that, all right, one of them NBA players come slide up on your ass, bro, one of the football players, Marciaun Lynch, come do an interview. You'll see how quick. Don't get me started on Paul Pierce.

Starting point is 01:46:34 Look, people start to fall off eventually, bro. They start to fall off if they have no way to maintain. I might be the most unknown, known rapper from Los Angeles. but I'm going to always leave and imprint my legacy and whatever it is I do. We're working on movies right now. Shout out, forced entry to movie. California hooligans. We're working on that right now.

Starting point is 01:46:58 And, you know, shout out my babies, man, Michael Julian and Malik. Y'all keep me going. Y'all keep me striving. Y'all keep me waking up every day motivating me to do better. You know what I'm saying? So shout out to my kids. You know what I'm saying. I appreciate you, man.

Starting point is 01:47:10 For real. That was a great conversation, and I appreciate the time. And fuck, T. Real. I'm going to put this up here just so we have a reminder for the people to tap in and check it out. If they want to hear it or if they want to read it, where do they go? We're on Amazon. We got Amazon.

Starting point is 01:47:28 You can just type in Land of No Pity, a South Central story or just Land of No Pity into Amazon. It's on Barnes & Noble's.com. And it's also on Walmart.com. So you can go. You won't be able to get a physical copy but for me. But I'm pretty sure my name will be, you know, you'll tag have my name. in the title or whatever. So you guys can just type that into any social media platform.

Starting point is 01:47:49 It's always used the same name. I don't use nothing different, but Jayruder really. So Instagram or just even if you want to hear the music, Spotify, YouTube, all of those things, it'll link you to the book. It'll link you to the music. I got daily affirmation videos I do for those who trying to get up out of that anger and aggression and all that and just trying to have a space where they can kind of get their minds together. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:48:12 I call them gangstaff or McDonald's sick. But I do got affirmations out. And we're just doing a lot of work. So, yeah, J. Real, the Realist, man, D-A, E-S-T, not I-S-T. And go check your boy out. I got some new coming with Bich of Lamont. I got some new coming with Pookie F-N-Rood. I got a new song coming out with Omar Gooden.

Starting point is 01:48:32 We working, you know, we working. For sure. Appreciate your time, man. My bad, one more. For sure, for sure. Shout out the modern. I got to say shout out to my guy, Sean and Marcus, and a Tesla team, man,

Starting point is 01:48:44 because they run my, they engineer and run the studio I have in Arizona. So without them, I wouldn't be able to do a lot of stuff in and out of state and all that. So I definitely got a shout out there. But yeah, that's, that's it. And fuck you real.

Starting point is 01:48:59 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no. That's real. Yo, shout out to my man, J. Rio. Guerrilla, he, bro. Appreciate you coming through, too, man. Yes, sir. No, John Burke, coolest podcast. And we're like, comment, and subscribe.

Starting point is 01:49:09 I'm definitely interested to read some comments on this bitch. So yeah, shout out to anybody who watch this. I appreciate your time, man. No problem, man. Much love. Thank you.

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