No Jumper - Jumbotron on Having The World's Biggest Butt, Coulda Been Love Season 2, Druski & More

Episode Date: June 8, 2026

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Are we live? Nice. Hey, Winston. Listen. We're live. We're live? This is Winston. Winston, your dog?

Winston's the little brown one, yeah, and then the big ones Ralph. Cute. Jumbotron, you can't, like, block yourself if you're like a baddie, so you're supposed to, yeah, we got to give them like a clear. Yes, a clear goon line. Clear goon line, yeah. Line of gooning. Yeah, for real. Okay, anyway, I got to explain to the people out there.

By the way, no jumper coolest podcast in the world. This is, am I allowed to call you Jumbotron or do we have to revert? You call me Jumbotron. Okay. Whatever. Because before that, your real name is Sage? Yeah. Okay.

Sage. And you, I guess, like, kind of exploded in popularity a little bit through the Drusky Show. Yeah, I was on Could Have Been Love. Yes. Season two. How far did you make it? I made it till about, I think, episode four or five. I showed up late.

Right. I wasn't there. Why were you late? I was late because I had a whole situation going on. I missed, like, a whole trip I was supposed to be on. And so I ended up just showing up, like, last minute, like they called me and they were like, can you pull up to Miami today? And I was like, yeah. Okay. What is the, like, what efforts did you have to go through to even? I didn't audition

or anything. So I just, I just kind of spawned. Okay. I just spawned on the show. I honestly think I watched up to like episode five, like maybe the episode. I stopped watching after I left. I think, yeah, coincidentally. Yeah. It wasn't like my Jemotron fan. People were like, they only really watched it because I was on it. I'm not going to say that. Because if anything, I, really wanted to see how the Selena saga played out. Yeah, how did you feel about that? Just like really close to it because her and I have such a history. Okay. Yeah, she ate my ass one time on camera. She ate your ass. Insane, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's probably unthinkable for a classy lady like you, huh? No, I could think of that. I could get into that. Really? I could. On camera? Not on camera.

I've never ate ass personally, but I could, I can, hey, everyone has their own, their own thing. Are you morally opposed? I'm not morally opposed. I feel like free will. Everyone can do what they want, you know? I mean, I feel like male ass eating like didn't even exist until I was in. Right, is there a term for that, like an official term for that? Not that I know.

I guess we could ask the AI. How was it though? Did you enjoy that? Was that your first time getting your ass ate? Really? I just did it because my girl made me. Okay. Because she encouraged it.

She co-signed it. Well, okay, so I don't even know if you know this, but me and my girl have a podcast called plugtalk. dot com where we interview girls and then we have sex with them and my girl ruled that she didn't want to sleep with selina but she said like you know you should do it yeah because selina is like you know every time she's on the platform it spikes a lot so for sure for sure she definitely I didn't know she was going to be there yeah I was like pleasantly surprised it is it's like I feel like no jumper kind of like the training ground for some of the drusky content because a lot of the people who get a certain level of popularity on here he like elevates them to his

10 million views an episode platform totally totally did you know anyone else I was on the show uh well like in the past you know Crip Mac definitely got on his shit and then there's been a bunch of other examples we have this gay Crip gay Crip Tony okay uh not familiar he's from Texas he's he's he's gay he sucks penises and shit from what I hear and uh yeah he got he got on there's a few other girls and stuff too but you know I I do the same thing you know It's like I find out about talent on there and then try to bring them in. Exactly. Well, yeah, I'm glad we can make it happen.

Yeah, definitely. So where are you from? I'm from Baltimore, Maryland. Ah, okay. What was your upbringing like out there? My upbringing, I was, I moved away pretty young. I moved to California when I was like five. Five, okay.

Yeah. And then I was raised in California, and then I moved back to Baltimore for school. Okay. Like middle and high school. And then I moved to Texas like two years ago. Oh, wow. So you're kind of a, well, mix of everything, huh? A little bit of everything, yeah.

How old are you? I just turned 23. 23. Yeah. Okay. I'm a tourist. And what kind of person would you say you were throughout all these years? Were you like just a normal girl?

I was a, I was like, I was always kind of like more promiscuous naturally. Now we're talking. Yeah. Right, right up your alley. Okay. Yeah, as an adult. As a, I just kind of remember, we're talking about when you were younger. As an, like, as a young adult, like, kind of like when I turned like 16, I started getting a little crazy.

Okay. And then just kind of full send it. When I turned 18, I started OnlyFans when I was 18. Really? Yeah. You were one of those girls who got like as soon as you turned 18? Yeah, I was one of. There was a countdown?

There was a countdown. Oh, my God. There definitely was. Wow. I just, I kind of already was in that world. So it just felt like the next, the next step for me. What do you mean in that world? It's illegal for you to be in that world.

It definitely was, it wasn't legal. It really wasn't. So, okay, you were one of those girls that was like posting pictures and getting followers. I just know. I was, I was on TikTok during COVID. But the followers don't know that you're underage. I've seen this. People were asking me when I, or if I had one or when I was going to make one from a young age.

So I was like, okay, I'm going to just like do. what I feel like seems right to me, like, naturally. Because, like, naturally, I like to take pictures. I like to, like, you know, like, be sexy on camera. And it just, like, kind of worked out that way. That's just so crazy to think that the world, like, collectively grooms girls. It definitely is a pressure on young girls to, like, become something of this sort of, like, sexually. Like, just kind of, like, I don't know.

How many followers do you have before you turned 18? I had about 100K on TikTok. See, this is crazy. It was a crazy world that we live in. But it was mainly women, actually, surprisingly. Really? It was a lot of women. What kind of content were you making?

What were you talking about? I was just, like, posting, like, regular. Like, I don't know. I was just, like, kind of doing, like, lip syncing, like, chill stuff on TikTok. And then I had, like, a significantly large women following. I think they were just, they just, they were into me. But you never said, hey, I'm underage? I think I did have it in my bio.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Interesting. But then when you turn 18, you turned 18, you said, you. start doing only fans there are you like automatically doing everything or no no I took it really slow at first I really just like had stuff I would post on Instagram on there and then you know I would show a little bit here and there but I wasn't full sending it for for a while you're like a big knuck boys fan or is full send just part of your lexicon you don't know that that's their thing no I didn't know that

oh really yeah no I just kind of yeah they have a brand called full send that's just like kind of the that's just what the kids are saying these days oh i'm a kid well i mean that but that's just crazy because that means that like the full slang i think it's just like full yeah just like but that means it might have like outlasted the knuck boy because i don't really hear people i don't even know who that is for real the knuck boys there are a bunch of canadian well started with a canadian dude named kyle right but i mean they're like huge they have like six million subscribers or some shit like that oh well they just moved something that was really like That was crazy.

Yeah, I mean, they're just like YouTube dudes, but. Yeah, so I'm not familiar with that. But yeah, I just like, I turned 18, took it slow, started kind of doing like girl-girl stuff because I was just like naturally like into girls, like on by. So I just like kind of had like attraction to more. I feel like it was just easier to kind of like work with girls and collaborate and so like that. And I was in a relationship. So I didn't really want to do anything too explicit for a while.

Okay. Until the opportunity presented itself. And I just like, fuck it. Wait, who's the guy you were in a relationship with? Oh my God, a loser. A loser. These losers, man. He is like, he's a fucking loser.

Your friend's jaws drop, like, she's really happy that you're calling this guy a loser. He, I actually just found out recently, like, he is gay. Really? Yeah, I found out he was gay from his current girlfriend. I think she's still with him. Gay, how? Like, he meets up with guys. Oh, okay.

He has, like, an anonymous, like, Twitter profile where he just basically links up with guys. White guy? He's Mexican. Okay. So, a zesty Mexican. Zesty Mexican. Yeah. I think he wants to be a bitch.

Like, he has, like, a fascination with, like, girls that, like, have a lot of work done. Like, he's super, like, freaked out. Okay. But as a girl who has a lot of work done, you can't hate on a guy for liking girls that a lot of work done. But when you have a porn addiction, I feel like you just kind of, like, naturally, it's, like, a funnel into just, like, just butt stuff and just, like, being, like, like, like. if the door is already open for you to be gay. I'm into butt stuff.

It doesn't make me... There's no, like, trajectory from, like, hot chick with a small waist and a big ass to, like, oh, now I want to fuck a man. Hey. Because they also have an ass. That's just, I don't... This is a shocking twist of fate that I can't imagine.

Maybe you don't relate to it, but I feel like he was just like, he wasn't loved as a child, probably. Like, so he just was, like, looking for anything you get, you know? What if he's just a natural gay lord? He really Something's going on But we don't know him He's not famous or anything

He's like anonymous Like but he has like A page Like a like a Instagram page Where like he basically is like This like brand Where he like has a front of like

He posted like reposted much stuff Like a bunch of like pop culture stuff Like he's like in that world But like he's very like Anonymous Okay Well how do he land you How do you land me

Oh you're probably underage when you bet him I was We were both 17 at the time. Yeah, and he, it was like long distance. Okay. It was long distance,

and we started to just kind of like, get to know each other online, and then we started dating, and then she just got crazy from there. He is really, like, a narcissist. Like, he, f***ed me up for a while. Really?

Anything in particular that he did? Yeah, hellish, he, like, docks me. Oh, Lord. He just, like, he has, like, no life, essentially, So he just like takes everything to like Instagram, Twitter and just like goes crazy. One of those. One of those. Tries like blackmail you just like super sick in the head.

Was it difficult for you to make a clean break from him? No, it was actually like easy. I was cool off of him. I was just like trying to keep him like at bay because he was just a tweaker. Okay. But he was holding you back on the adult content side of this. A little bit. But I just like I knew that I wanted to like do me anyway.

So I was just like, I don't really care, like, what you think about that. I feel like when you're with somebody, when you're that young, your feelings get hurt. Yeah, he definitely was a crybaby-ass bitch. Like, he had way too many, like, expectations on me as, like, a young girl. You know what I mean? He was, like, the same age as me. What kind of expectations? He wanted you to settle down with him?

Yeah, he wanted me to just, like, be very clean. You know what I mean? Like, be very, like, don't do this, don't post that. Like, just have, like, a good, I don't know. No. He was just on dick. He just like he clocked everything I did. Like he just like he was like stalking me crazy like really a stalker. He was really just like obsessed with me. It still is to this day. But some girls want that, right? I don't personally want that. Like I think that that's like a sign of like really like mental illness. If you are showing that much interest, you're giving up all your power in the relationship because it's like the girl's not going to fight for you or work for your love or whatever if you're just like love bombing her all the time. It wasn't even love bombing, though. It's like he expects a girl to trick on him. It's like he wants to be the bitch.

He's gay. It's like he wants to be the one that's like getting catered to, taking care of all while being like the little like sissy bitch, honestly. Wow. You seem like really want smoke with this guy. I think he wants smoke with me. Is he going to be furious when he sees you calling him gay on a podcast? I don't think he's going to be furious.

I feel like he has like no pool in real life. Maybe he'll be like low-key like kind of turned on by it. We don't talk. We're no contact. Oh, it's been a while? It's been a while. Okay. Yeah, he's so irrelevant.

Oh, shit. So, okay, that ends, and then how does life change from there? How does life change from there? I just started just going up from there. I just, like, started doing my own thing, doing content and stuff. Okay. When do you decide that you wanted to, like, really take your ass to the next level? Because obviously, for those who haven't put the pieces together, that's when that's where the Jumbotron name came from.

Jumbotron, yeah, being just like, what do you think? think it came from what do you think like i didn't know what nickname i was gonna get so do you think it fits i mean when i was describing you to the guys in the office before you came in i was like you were describing me yeah i was like she's a white girl with like probably the biggest fake ass that you ever seen oh you think it's fake it's not you think it's fake how could i not be fake it's like i feel like it gives like it could be real like yeah yeah i've always had a very like curvy body ever since I was young. I think that's why I like,

I hit puberty at a very young age. So I was like, that's what I was like naturally a little bit like morally permissible. Unless there's like some real trickery going on. I just don't think you get an ass that big with a waste that is relatively small. I've been in this game for a while.

It doesn't really seem like that's a thing. I don't remember girls looking like that before like the last 10 years. Is that what you're into? Do you like like? I'm not mad out of it at all for sure. Yeah. A lot of asses that could not occur in nature.

but that we still love. I just had some things enhanced, but I always had like that figure naturally. Right, you took the fucking fat of your stomach and put in your ass, right? Kind of, a little similar to. It's not a question of like,

if you did it. It's a question like, how many times did you do it and like how hard you went? No, I didn't go hard at all. You only did it one time or? Just one time. Really?

Yeah. I mean, that fucking, what's the girl's name with the biggest ass ever, the Latino girl from, she did the Love Island thing? I forget her name. She did Love Island?

Gracie Bond. Not actual. Oh, she's a baddie. Yeah. No, I do love her. But, I mean, she's an example. Because I have lipidema. So it's like naturally, like I've always had like a very like thicker, lower body.

Do you know what that is? What is lipidema? Lipidema. Lipidema. I think Gracie Bonn also has lipidema. What is it? It's like essentially like where fat collects on the lower half of your body like more naturally. It's like the fat cells are like kind of like in a way.

In a way. Yeah. I never heard that before. That's insane. Really? Yeah. Wow. So you had this.

Was it like an issue? It had been diagnosed before you? Yeah, it had been diagnosed before. And were you like upset about this at one point? I wasn't upset about it. I tried to just like accept, you know, like the body that I have. God gave you. Exactly.

But I did want to enhance it, you know, just to kind of like make it a little bit more. Just to look kind of Miami approved. Not Miami approved. I mean, you know, you go to Miami and it's like it starts to kind of twist your brain and thinking that the only way to get attention as a baddie is to really go hard on that booty. I don't think so. I feel like, do you, like, whatever, like, you feel like is best for your body, I just want to be healthy. You know what I mean?

But it's, like, naturally I had, like, a lipidema. So I was just, like, trying to work with what I got. But did things start to really change at that point in terms of the amount of attention you get from dudes? No, I always had the same amount of attention, honestly. And never really. So I was like, I've always been bad. So I was like, you know how certain bitch is, like, get surgery. like they hadn't been bad before so like they don't know how to handle it i always kind of just

like was used to it yeah i feel like the girls who are like really pretty from a young age those are the girls who like never really learn how hard life is because like pretty privileged yeah i mean the world just like wants to do whatever you need so it's like for a guy if you want to get the same treatment that a random hot girl gets you have to basically become like rich and or famous in order for the world to like accommodate like i get it honestly i'm Because, like, I'll go to a club and some random promoter will be like, no, we have to give you a table. We have to give you these free bottles. You know, like weird shit like that.

And like, as time goes by, I realize like, oh, that's just like what it's like for like regular hot girls. And I had to do like 3,000 podcasts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I feel like it's it's more to it sometimes. Like it's really just like about like the personality, you know? Like it's not always like looks because some bitches are really like throwed.

They have the looks, they have looks, but they don't have like the heart or, you know, like the soul to go with it. But that's the thing is that if you've got the gigantic ass or if you've got, if you're just hot as fuck, it's like the personality, you know, it don't really matter that much. You don't think so? I mean, it's nice. And maybe like I think it takes you further. There's a lot of girls who are wiped up by NBA players and rappers who have like the worst personalities on earth. What, like the wags? Yeah, they're just hottest fuck.

What's a wag again? like wife of like a like athlete oh okay yeah yeah yeah yeah with the wags but you you don't know what it stands for wife of what wife of gamer I don't know I don't know what it's yeah okay um but it you know I'm saying it's like a lot of okay okay we'll put it like this is that like the women out there who are like the smartest on earth are not the ones pulling the bad athletes and all the top rappers and shit like how do you think that happens then like the guys just like kind of like pick the bad bitches like they don't go for like regular

girls yeah like guys like myself included when I really think about like a lot of the girls that I've lost sleep about in my life they were like largely the girls who just were lucky enough to have been born with really really nice facial features or whatever yeah I agree I feel like it definitely has to be like you can't just build a bitch you know what I mean like it has to be a good foundation you know it's like everything can be enhanced like you can get things to like improve your you know like you're a figure but you can't just like completely build a bunch. I had a lot of girls in my life over the years where like my rational brain was like you should marry her. She's an amazing person. She'll like take care of you for the rest of your life like she's perfect. Yeah.

But they weren't hot enough. So I just dipped out and kept doing my thing. Your wife is pretty hot. So I see why you and that and but that's what I'm saying is that I ended up with a girl who is an amazing person. Really smart. Really responsible. But also. like really, really hot. It goes hand in hand, which is what was my point? Yeah. It takes both, you know? Yeah.

I breezed past a bunch of girls in my life and, you know, kept looking for a girl who was like, you know, hotter, which is like, it's pretty fucked up, but I mean, that is kind of, like, one day my daughter is going to ask me, like, why I fell in love with her mom and I'm going to have to, like, not say. Right. Like, what you guys? She was hot. She was hot.

She DM me. And then we had sex right away. It's pretty fire. I love that. Yeah. modern day romance she had never had her ass eating before so oh so you were the first the first date yeah yeah on the first date i should have got her to eat my ass that night because that would be a really good story so what you really like getting your ass ate like no no i don't want to seem like

a fucking zest lord who's like super into that that that's i know all about that so i'm like no i mean i feel like okay outside of the porn thing how many girls have eaten my ass in my life like Yeah, outside of it. Like, it wasn't, like, performative. Not, like, maybe, like, I don't know, like, less than 10 for sure. Less than 10. Well, I would never, like, really ask for it. They just, like, do it once in a while.

Really? I think so. Really? I've had... Can you silence that? Oh, yeah. Yeah, thanks. But, no, yeah, because, I mean, I'm just, like...

I don't know, I don't like get a lot out of it. The only thing I get out of it is, like, oh, my God, you are disgusting. Like, you are so nasty. You're a freaky bitch. Yeah, and I mean, there's something about that. That's cool. I've only had one experience where, like, someone wanted me to eat their ass, and it was very, like, it was very... Disgusting?

It was disgusting. It just kind of threw me off. With the flies? No, it wasn't, no. It was like, he just kind of, like, spread his legs up and, like, just was like, he didn't really, like, say he wanted that, but it gave that. I mean, that's the weird part about it is that you kind of have to hit, like, a zesty pose in order to enable it. It's very desasty. You have to get very...

You got to hit him with this? Yep. You got to get... And that was the exact pose. That was the exact pose. Yeah. Yes. But I'm pretty sure, yeah, like he, I'm pretty sure his, he's a bitch now.

Like, I'm pretty sure she eats his ass. So that's why. Okay. They, they work out. But in porn, when the girl, like, says she wants to, I'm just like, oh, my God, that's insane. And I feel like I just kind of figured out the baby wipe thing that you really, like, if someone's going to eat your ass, you really got to go the extra mile down there. You definitely do.

You have to, like, know what you're doing. Yeah. I just feel like, that's not my. kink that's I don't blame any of you're too cute for that you don't have to eat ass my girl's super lazy now too she like she used to eat my ass like once in a while when we were drunk or whatever she don't really do that anymore yeah well now it's like she's like you know

she's a mom and shit so it's like you can't eat ass when you're mom you can't no I feel like she's probably grown past that well you know what actually happened is that she got pregnant and then she got weird about smells really yeah I don't know if you know about this but when you're pregnant like a lot of Sometimes you get like way more sensitive to smells or you like, you just, you can't really, you get more sensitive to taste to. Like all the senses.

Like that's why you like crave certain things. You have like certain like things that you like can't do. Like there's an episode of the office where somebody's eating like hard boiled eggs and Pam Bees is pregnant and she starts puking in the trash can and then everybody else starts peaking in the trash can. But like that kind of happened to my girl and then she like never really lost it. Like she never used to like complain about my morning breath and now I wake up and I'm like this far away from her and she's just like oh my god your breast stinks. I'm kind of sensitive to like senses and stuff too.

So I feel like but I've never been pregnant. So I don't know. Yeah. Just like naturally. Are you excited to get pregnant or are you like? I'm on birth control. So it's not something I'm like really planning for. I feel like having kids right now is just not in my my plans.

Maybe in the future. 23 is too early. 23. Yeah, exactly. like prime time yeah i mean you're getting annihilated you're drinking at 1 p.m. hey you got to start early it's 5 o'clock somewhere do you drink every day no i don't drink every day oh okay do you no i don't drink like at all at all yeah once in a lot i'm sure you like did when you were 23 like yeah when i was younger i was i was turning up for sure right yeah so but that's just where i'm at now i like smoke weed that's

oh i smoke halloweed do i do i really do that's dope especially in callie it's it's It's just like, that's the thing to do here. Just falling from the sky. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It's everywhere. I was really trying to stop for a while.

And like I actually, so I used to like have splits on deck all the time. And I stopped doing that. But the thing is that people keep giving me weed regardless. And so then I just. You just can't stop. It's like if it's free, how am I not going to smoke it? Exactly. Exactly.

Which is really dumb because even when it's not free, even when you have to pay for it, it's still like not like a real amount of money. It's like. I like to just get super high and just like vibe out, honestly. Yeah, I mean, I like getting high and like landing bed and watch the TV before I go to bed. That's really like what's all about. Yeah, I agree. But then also like the time periods in my life where I haven't been smoking weed that I feel like you sleep a lot better when you're not smoking.

Do you like dream a lot? Do you have like crazy dreams? When I stop smoking, I dream so much. And it's fucking scary. I'm like waking up in cold sweat. and shit from all the weird stuff that's happening in my dreams. Wait, so did you see the jersey though? Like, did you see like the drip?

The spurs. The spurs. Did you see the back? Filthy. Filthy. So some of the people at home are getting a little bit of a taste of what's going on here outside of the jersey, I guess, yeah? Outside of the jersey?

So what am I supposed to think about the jersey, though? Because I don't know anything about sports. You don't know anything about sports? That's like the whole thing here, no jumper. It's more like no jumper. I don't know what shit about sports either, but I just thought the jersey was hard because it's like... But why is it's the best. I think filthy on the back.

You know, wake up filthy? Who? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Back in the day, yeah, yeah. Back in the day. Yeah, like 10 years ago. Yeah, this is just... But why is his name on the back of the Spurs jersey?

How do you think I got it? So he made it? His custom. Oh, he made a custom jersey and then gave it to you? Well, someone made it for him and then I just acquired it. So you were fucking him and you took it on the way out the crib? No, that's my best friend. No, that's not what happened.

I was like out. like the Cardi concert and then a fan I gave it to him and I was like oh I want the jersey because it's hard see I like saw him in like some I think it was like a documentary YouTube video the day and I realized that if I saw him in real life for sure I would not recognize him at this point

really he just looks way different than when I was around him a few times yeah so I gotta like yeah I don't know like probably I feel like there's like a pretty high chance I have been around him and didn't realize it was him so that kind of sucks because he's like he was like brand new hot undergris producer when I interviewed him back in the day and now I feel like he's like fucking gigantic so it's like kind of offensive he's a little unrecognizable

I just you know you look different 10 years later you know for sure I'm sure you look different for sure but he probably would recognize me what I feel like he's like got a lot more drip and garb and he'll probably have like some snowboarding goggles on the side of his head or some shit like that he probably would I feel like he's your best friend yeah that's my bestie how did you guys become besties We met the strip club in Houston. Nice. You were stripping?

No, I was there throwing once. Oh, nice. Yeah. So you just go to strip club and just blow only fans money on the girls? I was just, I'm good friends with Eric. Who's Eric? The owner of area, 29. So we were just there partying.

He was just there and it was just like, it was organic. And then we went to the show the next day. Which show? The weekend show. Oh, okay. Interesting. Yeah. Okay, so wait.

Do you go to call? college or not? No, I went to, I graduated high school during COVID and then I just didn't go to college. I'm going back to college in the fall though. Oh, really? For what? I'm going to do like digital marketing. I felt like somebody in your position typically doesn't go back to college, right? Like you're probably making pretty all right money? I just want to like go back to school and just have like a structure. You know what I mean? I feel like when I was in school I just had like more of a routine. Yeah. And it's so close. And it's so close. to where I live in Houston, that's like, I just want to get back into it. Yeah, once you leave college or school... Did you go to college? I went to school for like two years after high school. That's why I didn't go out of originally. Like, I didn't go straight from high school to college because I was like, I want to ride my...

Like, I knew I would drop out, and I didn't want to be the person. It's like, oh, I dropped out. So I was like, let me just like do my own thing and then go back to school because it's always an option to like just go back to school later in life. So now I'm at that point where it's like, I want to just see what it's... about the only time I thought about it in my adult life though is because I heard academics talking about going to like college again to be a lawyer really yeah a lot of my friends actually are going to college to be a lawyer but I don't think he wants to be a lawyer I think he just wants to get way more understanding of the legal system for the content which I don't know if he's like

I don't think he's serious because it was like over a year ago that he said that and I haven't heard of mention it again but I mean like from a content perspective it would be cool to like have sort of like the skill set of a lawyer, but also it's like you're already successful. I just like knowledge is power. So it's like the more you can just like acquire as much knowledge as possible. Yeah, but also it's like if you have a business and you're doing well and especially something like content, it's like I don't know.

Like to go to school, be a lawyer. There's so much flexibility within this job. But it's got to be like 60 hours a week of work. Yeah? At least 40 hours a week. Yeah. To be a lawyer seems way more intense. And then even.

Even then, like, I just feel like, you know, Kim Cardassian trying to pass the bar like 10 times and she failed every time. Well, honestly, I feel like school is like everyone has their own pace. So it's like it's not like everyone's going to accept. They have a pace for you. Like you have to like you're on a schedule, right? Well, yes, but you just might not be able to keep up. Don't just give up because you failed the test. Like you got to try again, you know.

Yeah. But if you do it 10 times, I think it is probably pretty reasonable to give up. So just give up? You're a quitter? I mean, bro, 10 times. 10 times? That's your purpose. Like, if that's what you want to do in life, like,

if Kim Kay wants to be, like, a lawyer, like, that's... But I think that's part of the problem is she doesn't really want to be a lawyer. She just wanted to get the degree so that she could kind of say, like, hey, I'm not just famous for being, you know, someone who got dicked down by Ray J. Look at me. I'm a lawyer. Which, I get it. It's cool.

But also, it's like, everybody else that you're in school with is becoming a lawyer because that's literally, like, what they want to do to pay their bills. and then meanwhile you're already outlandishly rich, you're never going to have to use this. Why would you ever take it as serious as somebody who's taking it as serious as if it was life or death? I feel like she just has like a calling to like have like justice to create justice within the system because it is so corrupt, you know?

I mean maybe, but I just feel like she's not. She's not. She gave up after 10 tries because I don't know if it was 10, but it was like a lot. Haley, she didn't give up though. No, she did. I thought she passed. No.

She still doesn't pass the bar. No, I'm going to. Really? Double check just to make sure. Huh? The baby bar. The baby bar. Okay.

She passed the baby bar. She's working her way there. You know what I mean? It's like she had to accomplish some of the other things like that's like now like that's just where she's at. No, yeah, I respect it. I mean, she tried something big, but ultimately I mean, didn't really work out. So what? So you dropped out of college.

What were you in college for? What was like? Just whatever. Like I was able to go to college for free because my mom worked. worked for the state. Okay, where it was state? So I'm from New Hampshire, but my mom was a librarian at a college in Massachusetts, which was like 20, 30 minute drive from my house.

So I went to college for two years and just like took a bunch of classes because she convinced me like basically like I won't make you move out or pay rent if you go to college. And I did it for two years and I just couldn't handle it. You going to handle it? I just like was, I had so many other things that I was into that I was doing that I was was like, I just got over it pretty quick. I feel like it's just like a fun thing to do. I'm like, I don't want to go to college to like become a lawyer or anything,

but I just want to like have some more knowledge. Well, what do you want to study? I said digital marketing. Oh, right. Okay. Like business, like that kind of vibe. It's like I'm already in that. So it's like, why not just like know more about it and like learn as much as I can to just

like maximize like the opportunity? I mean, it's probably like you do that or you just go full sex worker, right? Full sex worker. I kind of do a little bit of both. Right, yeah. Yeah. I mean, that'd be an irony if you try to be a lawyer. No, I don't think I would try to be a lawyer.

Oh, okay. I wouldn't. I would, I have a friend who's in college to be a lawyer. I'm like, he can be my lawyer. But I don't want to be a lawyer. Like, or hire a lawyer. Yeah, when I see how much money I have to pay my lawyers, I'm like, holy fuck, maybe I should be a lawyer.

Yeah, maybe you should. I could see you. Like, you seem kind of like you like to debate and like. I don't think. I feel like people get this idea that being a lawyer is like being a debater when I think it's actually like, filling out insane amount of paperwork doing insane amounts of research learning just all the most technical minutia possible and I just don't I think a lot of people like the idea of it even

with act like him saying like oh if I go to college to become a lawyer then like it'll help me to like cover these legal cases I mean how often is that really even applicable like granted rappers go to jail a lot oh for sure but is it like I mean you could just like have a lawyer that you like talk to on stream and like get information from them right? I think at the reunion there was like a lawyer that hopped in like from Morgan and Morgan. Did you watch reunion? Uh-uh.

No? It was crazy. Why? Just everybody's fighting? Everybody was fighting. It was so much shit going on. I was like blackout junk in the back. Like I think I like disappeared.

Really? Briefly. Why? You have like a real alcohol problem, huh? No. They just feed you liquor. Really? So it was very much like I had been just fucked up at that point.

Uh-huh. By the time we were actually shooting, I was like, I don't know what's going on. Did you bang Drusky? No, I didn't bang Drusky. Did you like want to or think about it? I had thought about it. I feel like there was some chemistry, but it was, it wasn't like, I feel like he just kind of handled me. Really?

Respectfully, yeah. Too much cake? Too much cake. I feel like he just don't got it on him. You think his dick is small? I could see it being small, allegedly. It could be small. Just because he's fat?

Not good. I feel like he just couldn't handle me. I don't know. It's just like he just. Well, the girl that he did fuck from what I recall Riley was pretty. You like you? She was skinny, yeah. Yeah.

Do you think they actually fucked? I don't know. She talked about like a lot on the show though. So if she didn't, then it's like you might as well of, right? If you're going to just keep pretending for the rest of life. I mean, you were there. You're saying you think it was fake? From what I saw, allegedly, I feel like it.

didn't really happen. I feel like it was very forced. Really? Yeah, it was. Wow. That's interesting. Okay, I'll take your word for us since you were there, but was there. Was there a lot of stuff that was fake, or did it feel like that? Yeah, a lot of shit was fake. Like what? Well, what do you think was fake? Did you watch? You didn't watch all of it, so it's like...

It was like half of it or some shit like that. I don't know. I mean, yeah, everything seems kind of fake to be totally real. I mean, like, bring a girl on the jet and then like get rid of her right after. I don't know. It just feels like, yeah. I don't, I mean, I've done. I've done. like reality TV shit so I know I know it only makes sense this is my first experience with reality TV so I didn't have like much expectation but I was like this shit is crazy it was definitely like very crazy I mean from my experience reality TV yeah you fake everything and then you there's no shame in that

because you just don't have enough time for shit to like really like if you look at old reality shows from like you know 20 years ago they would kind of just put people in the same house together for like months together like the real world that's what they would do and they didn't bad girls club did you watch like bad girls club no but i mean but some of those shows that like are over a longer period of time like blue face is uh baby mama jaden she told me that she did baddies and she was on set for like over a month and i feel like in some of those environments like they put you in

fpped up environments and sort of like wait for shit to happen right but if juski's filming a reality show he's doing it in six days you have to like just make shit happen you got to make some shit shake it was like just it was it was intense yeah but Did you go into it thinking like, I'm gonna fuck Drusky by the end of this? I didn't think that, honestly. I thought maybe it could happen. Like maybe, like, just because it could maybe, like, we didn't have much one-on-one-one time, though. Honestly, like, he was kind of, like, out the way.

Okay. Yeah, I mean, that was, that stood out to me a lot, is that he didn't seem like he was really around as much. Yeah, he wasn't around. I feel like he was like, I don't know. I feel like he has a whole girlfriend outside of the show. That's what I think. Really? interesting

I got fooled too by the when he like took Sky Breed to that game yeah I was like kind of oh yeah you know Sky Brey right I signed her yeah you signed her discovered her you discovered her 2,000 followers

yeah boom she was nice she actually kind of like forced herself upon me really kind of like I had been DM in her and didn't really like think much of it and then we started interviewing like

I feel like she was really overwhelmed in the house like she didn't Because she is a very sensitive soul. She is. She's like a very nice, normal, sort of anxious person. Right. So that environment where everybody's fighting and shit, for sure, that's like not natural to her. It was very, I mean, I think it's not natural to anyone, like an environment where everyone's just kind of fighting.

Like, we're, that's just like, it feels like jail. Yeah, definitely. You have any good squabbles in there or no? I didn't, no, I didn't get touched. The best was one in that fucking giant girl, I forget her name? Wasumbo? Yes. I would say that was pretty

That was real That was real It felt real Like she got like so angry at some girl For hitting her or whatever And she's like stalking throughout the house Just like where is she She's like the incredible Hulk or Godzilla

Or some shit I actually met her in Miami She was very like I should have very like gentle like Oh yeah I met her at brand risk And just took a picture with her Just because she was tall

And then I started watching the show And realize that's where she was from Yeah she's gorgeous too I'm like Yeah, she's kind of hot, huh? She is hot. You're like tall chicks? I don't have a type.

Okay. Yeah. Tall's crazy, though, for a girl. Tall? I feel like she just, she has aura. Like, she really does. I feel like they had just kind of, like, pushed her to a point, you know? My daughter's super tall.

Really? She's only five and a half, but she's, like, 99% of, like, height for her age. So it is kind of weird sometimes to think, like, oh, are you going to be, like, a freak? Yeah, she could be in the WMBA, you know? Yeah, and I try to tell it. I try to explain to her that if you play basketball, you make a lot of money. I don't think she really, like, understands the concept of, like, wanting to make a lot of money yet. Well, yeah, because she's like, what is it?

She technically like a NEPO baby in a way? Like, in a way? She will probably be one in some way, or, like, whatever the opposite of a NEPO baby is, a stigma baby, where your parents are so fucked up that everybody, like... You would say you all are fucked up? Not fucked up, but, like, you know... Unconventional? Yeah, I mean...

I'm sure there'll be, like, benefits, but I'm sure that there'll be, like, benefits, but I'm sure there'll be negatives attached to it as well. Yeah. Your dad is out on 22 and he's a fucking psychopath. I don't know. Not a psychopath. Not too much on the porn thing. Not too much.

Yeah. Like that's, it was just a side quest for you, maybe. Thank you. I'm going to call it a side quest too. It was a side quest. Yeah. I'll say that.

But, uh, wait, so, porn-wise, are you, are you, you're fucking on the gram or not? What do you mean by that? Not the gram. I'm that only fans.

Obviously, nobody can fuck on the gram. Not currently, no. You never done anything like that? I have. Just it's been, I think it's been like almost a year. So it's like hard to find that content? I wouldn't say hard. I mean, it's not like, continued.

Like, you know, people that have, like, boyfriends, like, the girls, like, they'll just, like, continue to, like, every day. Like, a lot of sex. So who'd you bang on Only Friends? A lot of girls. Mainly girls. That's what I prefer. I've done.

One threesome or two threesomes. on camera with Stella Andrews, you know Stella? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we did a three-some that was fire. I love Stella. Yeah, she's great. That was actually my last collab in July of last year.

Okay. But the times that you have taken dick on camera, was that like a big decision? It wasn't a big decision. It was just where I was at in life. Boyfriend? It was like a safe space. You know what I mean?

Like it wasn't like, you know what I mean? like I feel like this industry can be like a little bit intense. So it was like it just like made sense. Like I'm never going to just like force some shit on camera just like get the video. You know what I mean? I'm going to like feel it out. Make sure it feels right for me. I mean that's the weird thing about porn is that like you can't feel it out.

You need to like get tested. Oh yeah. For sure. For sure. But I'll like link with someone first. See how like before I even want to just like them like directly. You know what I mean? Like just see if we even have chemistry, you know?

Right. Yeah. I mean. It's not mainstream. I feel like mainstream form is way more like you're fucking this person. It's very much like, okay, this is the date, time, this, that. Mainstream porn, you show up and you don't even know who you're fucking. Exactly.

I like to know who I'm fucking. Yeah, a lot of girls, that's kind of a weird part of it, is that you might not even know what guy you're getting until they show it. Yeah. That's, okay. I mean, the weird part about it is that, like, you could film some shit with your girlfriend where you're like, you know, fingering yourself or, like, putting dildos in you or whatever. And it's like, that is what it is.

Nobody really thinks that's that crazy. But then as soon as you shoot a scene with a guy, it's like his d-y-my-my-the-exact same size as a dildo. Right. But to the world, that's just so much crazier. So I do you watch porn a lot? Like, do you- Um, not really, honestly.

Like, once in a while, if I need to jerk off in a hurry, yeah. Yeah, I'm not really like, it's kind of just like my alter ego, you know? It's like, I don't. You're alter-eagle? I think of myself as a porn star. You know what I mean? I know, but that's like, I'm trying to, like, gauge, like, if you, like, wanted to do that at some point, or if that just seems attractive at all. I did at some point, not as much where I'm at right now.

I just, like, don't feel the need to, like, phone camera right now. See, that's the weird thing about porn is that now, because the only fans, so many girls, they just, they don't see the need to because who cares, like. Yeah, it's, like, I feel like I'm fine shit on my own, so I don't need someone, like, a guy to, like, make me. Right. Do you have guys like paying all your bills and shit? Kind of. Yeah? In a way.

Not like OnlyFans money, which technically comes from guys. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. That's technically like in a way, right? Like OnlyFans funds everything. Technically, but I just feel like a lot of girls that I know have like Sugar Daddy type situations going on where they're basically like they got some guy who's kind of paying for. I've dabbled. Okay.

Is that something that you enjoy or is it something that you kind of got some? of? I enjoy it until like they don't have their hush money. You know what I mean? It's like that's where I feel like a man like what's the hush money. The hush money. It's like I feel like a guy will like want you to like just be, you know, like at his beck and call and it's like I'm just not that time of girl. So it's like, well like with a sugar daddy, that's kind of like what they're paying for is the discretion of like you're not going to go tell my wife. You're not going to post me on Instagram. Right. You're just going to spend time with me when I want you I can't deal with, like, being disrespected, so it's, like, hard to, like, you know, it has to be, like, very, like, reciprocal. I mean, that's, yeah, that's the other thing these days is, like, you know, girls have enough options so that they don't want to, like, be treated, like, a side piece even if they are.

Right, exactly. No, so you want the benefits of being, like, their girlfriend, but then also getting everything paid for, so it's like... I just want to be, like, respected in, like, that environment as much as I can, because, you know what I mean? It's, like, I feel like, it's already tricky. It gets tricky. So you couldn't have, okay, if you had some dude that you met and he's giving you 50 grand a month, which I don't know how much money you make, so I don't know how much that matters, but presumably that's pretty good.

And he's got a wife. And the deal is that like you talk to him and stuff. Maybe if there's like some paperwork involved, like. What's the paperwork going to say? Like an NDA, like maybe like some things are like. Well, but that's going to protect you, not him. No, it's going to protect him, not you, if there's an NDA. I guess.

I feel like if it's like, if in the clause, there's like, okay, like, it's, there's some things laid out, you know, like, then I could keep the secret. But like, if not, I'm not going to just like protect them. Why does this need to be a business arrangement? Why can you just be this well-paid sidepiece? A well-paid sidepiece? 50 grand a month. That's just like the number I threw out there. But yeah.

Yeah. That's like the fucking lottery. That's a lottery for you? I mean, it's 600K a year. I mean, it's pretty good, right? It could, it could work. We can make some arrangements. I hear girls bitch and complain about like the price of pussy going down as time goes by because of the fact that there are so many girls escorting or doing the sugar daddy thing or whatever that it's just like like once in a while I hear a girl talking about guys spending like serious racks on like crazy amounts.

What's the most you would pay for pussy? Like it's zero. I would never. Oh really? Never. Okay. Yeah. Not only that, but I'm just not like a baller type.

Like I'm just not like granted I'm married so I like buy our stuff sometimes sure but like if I was single again I feel like I need like rules I need like confines to like any relationship I can get into which is like I'm not getting into any relationship that's like based on me being able to like buy shit for or pay for anything or whatever like if you're not like a provider. No if you want that kind of relationship then like you know I want to be the kind of guy who's getting whatever I'm getting off of the fact that I'm fucking hilarious and brilliant and what let me hear I haven't heard. One joke. Yeah, yeah. I don't work on call like that. But no, I'm serious. I'm not like, because my whole life, you got to understand that this new age where every

girl is a fucking prostitute, like not literally, but kind of. Every girl? I'm like, no. Not literally, but like the way that girls like want all their bills, pay all this stuff. Like that, I feel like that did not exist before the last 10 years. But you've got to understand. Well, isn't like prostitution like the oldest profession? Yeah.

So how did it not exist before 10 years? For sure. Prostitution always existed. I'm talking about normal girls who think that, like, it makes sense. Like, I'm not going to be in a relationship with a guy unless they're, like, spending money on me from the very beginning of the relationship. I've never done that. Is it not just, like, courting and, like, taking care?

No, I'm not doing that kind of courting. No? No, I want someone that like me for my personality. Okay. Yeah. You're just staring at me like I'm fucking retarded because this is so out of the question. I know, but, like, that's why I feel like, like, honestly, a lot of stuff that I see watching like the could have been love thing or whatever i'm just like bro

the world has just kind of left me behind because these girls are and i just don't i don't ever want to be the kind of guy who has to like lead with the money side of things like i want i want you to fuck me i want me to because i'm hilarious and i'm famous and that okay so for the clout and i'm like really cool yeah okay so you just like a golf of like face card you think you got it yeah i mean i was doing my whole life So why not, right? That makes sense. Yeah.

But also I realize that a lot of the hottest chicks out there, you're probably not going to really, like, win them over unless you're spending legitimate amounts of money on them. Yeah. But I can live with that. I just, like, I like to feel like it's... That you're... That he's spending money on you to display how much he likes you.

I just like to be the feminine role. Like, I like to be, like, more submissive. You know, so it's like, I'm not going to... That's why my ex that was gay is, like, I could not take that. Like, I really, I couldn't take, like, him wanting to be, like, the feminine role in the relationship, you know? It's like, that just, it doesn't survive with me.

But, okay, that's the scenario that so many of the girls that I know end up in where... I think men really just, like, want to be bitches these days, like, honestly. Exactly. Yes, we do. It's a... But with chicks like you, because it's like, I know girls who make huge amounts of money off porn or only fans or whatever, and then they get a boyfriend and the boyfriend, or a lot of times they... kind of come in the game with the boyfriend or whatever, but he is basically like, he's not

some millionaire. He's just a dude. He's cool, but he doesn't maybe have the drive to be out there, like making some huge amount of money or whatever, but it's all good because the girl is making all this money. And then so he's around because a girl like that, she's not going to want to date me. I'm in here fucking like eight hours a day, 10 hours a day, whatever. It's like I would be a terrible boyfriend for a normal girl because I just like work too much.

But these guys are great because they're around all the time. time. Like you you want to film only fans content with me at 10 a.m. I'm there because I got nothing else to do. Yeah. I just I can't really do that in the same way. So but but then these girls, they end up dumping the dudes because they want to be with a rich guy. But then there's not that many like rich guys who really want to be in a long term relationship. Yeah, they're all hoarse. They're literally like all like just cheaters. Not all of them, but it's like a lot of the guys I feel like with money like you were saying it's like being the side. like having like a girl that you take care of on the side,

but you have a wife that's like... But you couldn't like handle a guy... Okay, say you're the wife. Okay. You can't handle him, having some hose on the side? I think if things are like... Make sense. Like if like I'm fully like taking care of the thing,

I could be open to that, but I wouldn't want to know about it. Like, it would need to be like fully like... I respect discretion. But let's be real. A lot of times that's not how it works. Yeah, the girls find out, things get exposed. On the internet? Yeah.

Things are getting... messy. I knew dudes who would like tour in the 90s like specifically BMX dudes who would like be on tour and they would have a different fucking girlfriend in like every city because you're on the road and it's like oh I'm in Utah and I've got like a notebook and I got this girl's like number written in the notebook and I hit her up when I'm in town or whatever and then they have a wife back home. How would the wife ever find out? Maybe one of the hos writes a letter to your wife like is that going to happen? Like with How would they ever even figure out who your wife was? But nowadays, it can just be aired out. Yeah, especially me. Like, if I was, like, really out of cheating, I mean. That would be all over the internet. Yeah, you'd either have to have, like,

unbelievable caution and discretion. It's like through the great fines. It's like someone you could hear something from another, you know, I feel like it's a small world. Do you feel like that? It's like sometimes it's like. Yeah, I couldn't even pay for pussy because all the girls that pay for pussy are probably fans of my life.

Exactly. Yeah. So, but, okay, so the guys paying your way. through life, he puts babies in you. You're stay at home, mom, but you're still a baddie, whatever. But then you don't know, but you know that he's fucking around with other girls too. But it doesn't really get in the way of your relationship. Yeah, as long as, like, I could hypothetically deal with it if, like, the arrangement

makes sense. Like, it has to just be very reciprocal. Like, it's like, I'm just going to put up with something to put up with it. Like, I need to, like, know what I'm getting a lifestyle. paid for you're the wife you have that status yeah if I'm the wife then it's like okay do you think people are like like humans are meant to be like monogamous I think women are okay I think guys probably are not really like meant to be monogamous from like a biological perspective why because like women can only get like pregnant like yeah like and but men could

like it's not biological useful for a woman to have sex with a lot of guys really because a woman like she wants to nest she wants to create a family for the guy it's like yeah you want to create a family but you probably want to create like a bunch of families it's just like the modern world doesn't really allow for that I wouldn't want that personally you don't want that multiple wives no no even one wife is insane to me like I'm just like such a workaholic like the fact that I've even landed in a position where I have a wife and a kid is like crazy to me what the idea of multiple it's not really necessarily my goal in life so like when we're talking even hypothetically about this is like it's hard to even get in that perspective but it has to probably be

your goal in life at some point right I wouldn't say it's my goal in life to become a mom but don't you think that's probably going to like kick in at some point it might like you know like you got a countdown you got like 10 12 years 10 12 years I mean realistically by the time like women who have babies in their late 30s or 40s those are like high-risk pregnancies typically for sure and the world kind of like lies to you about that and wants you to think that like oh You can just have a baby, no problem, so you're 40. I mean, even by the time you get to the late 30s, I mean, it's like way higher risk of miscarriage.

You know, it's just like, because I know women who are like in their late 30s who definitely have that sense of like, oh shit, I miss the boat. I just like feel like if it happens with opportunity presents itself, then I would have a kid. But I'm on birth control. So like I'm not looking or trying to have a kid because I feel like. I know, chick. It's just, it was like 45 and she just got pregnant.

That's crazy. I know. And I'm so happy for it. That's amazing though. Yeah, it took a lot of work from what I understand. There's so many things and tools nowadays. It's like you can have adoption. Like there's so many outlets.

True. But okay, so she's like 45, just got pregnant. I'm really happy for. But it does stand out to me. It's pretty crazy that that kid is going to be going to high school at the same time that she starts collecting social security. That's crazy to you? I mean, yeah, it's like. you know, so like, realistically, the average person dies around like 75, 76.

So like by the time, you know, your kid hits 30, you're probably dead. But after that, it's like, having a kid later in life is, I feel like has it has its pros. Because you kind of have already lived your life. You've really. Yeah, I don't hate on it at all. I think it's amazing. Although also, like, you know, having a kid in my 30s, it's like you have the energy to have a kid. Whereas, like, I just, I look at my parents.

My parents are like 76 or whatever. and like, holy shit, I could not imagine them dealing with a fucking 18 year old or whatever. I couldn't imagine, like, having a kid where I'm at right now. So I'm like, I would definitely wait later in life. You feel like you've ever been in love? I, it's just not a priority. Like, I don't seek that. You know, I feel like I'm not in, like, I don't know.

I just don't feel like I'm looking, seeking love. I think you're too caught up in the clubbing, the cooking. I don't go. Oh, I don't do coke. No, I've been to the multiple different size bottles of 1942. First of all, this is like the best. But this is it too, right? Well, yes.

Yeah. Oh, no, it's the Donne. This is the Donnie Don't. The mini Don't. Yeah, the mini. I really don't drink much, though, and I really don't do drugs. I just like smoke weed, like to just vibe. I don't get super into the club life.

You can just vibe. What do you want to do in life? Just vibe. You know, just vibe. Guys, it's like, I need a plan. You need to be a drop shipper. You're the man with the plan. I'm going to sell NFTs.

Yeah. I'm going to be a crypto guy. I mean, like, as a guy, you just, you really got to, like, do a lot to, like, establish your worth, you know? So do you think women are, like, naturally born with, like, worth because, like, they're... Hot chicks. They're hot. Hot chicks just get carried through life, yeah.

But is that not, like... The natural order of the world. Yeah, actually, women... Yeah, it just, like, makes sense that way. Because, like, women do. do hold so much power, you know? But also, we live in a patriarchy to where it's like that kind of sets us up for some disadvantages, you know?

Yeah, no, that's true. But also I think the patriarchy inherently is like very beneficial to women. Right, we're getting super like political and like economical. It's okay. But no, but like the patriarchy is like one in which like women are kind of like taking care of and pampered. Like I feel like somebody like you's not like really falling for this like feminist lie that you're going to be happier if you like work 80 hours a week.

Like, you are embracing the patriarchy. You're like, I want to be hot. I want to have a chill life. Maybe I'll make some kids like 10 years from now. But basically, I want the guy to go to work, pay for my lifestyle, and then I'll be hot. I'm just going to, like, use the tools and the resources that I have. You know, I'm just going to like. But you also have it the best of both worlds, too, because you make enough money from only fans that you could.

Yeah, I don't rely on men for shit. If anything, like, I, I. just work with what I would have been given, you know? I don't try to like take advantage of people, you know. It's like people, I like generous people. I like to like be just taking care of. Like I feel like a man that like sees my worth, like we'll see that I'm worth being pursued. The whole time that I was single before my wife and I believe, I think I stopped keeping

track about the time I started dating her but I think I was such like 300 girls before her and never during that time period did a girl really ever try to like get me to spend money on her in some like real way so they were just going like they were just going yeah like and I think that was normal like like where like and I don't remember any of my friends ever being in situations where it was like took the dawn for me like I just put it no I'm okay I just put on this Southern Mike. Okay. But I just feel like that's like the world has changed so much.

I was with my friend in New Hampshire where I'm from. Yeah. And his son is like 14, I think. And he was talking about how there's a girl from school and he wanted to date her. And she told him that she wanted him to buy her this $3,000 Louis Vuitton purse. And that was crazy to you? He's 14. That's a little crazy.

Yeah, I told him. I'm like, you're a fucking idiot if you do that. You need to be able to finesse this chick without. Wait, so you think finesse? So what do you think? Like hitting and quitting is finessing? Yeah. But also like just like that was your, that was the mojuring.

You were like wanting to finesse women. It's not like literally finessing, but it's like, that's like getting into a normal relationship. That's the perspective. It's like I don't have the finessing perspective. I just have like reciprocity. You just don't even know that it's finessell. It's reciprocity. It really is just like equal give and take.

You're just spending time with them? You just said it's finessing. But he has to spend on you for your time. And then meanwhile, You're not spending on him for his time. You're just spending your time with him. I'm giving my time and energy as well. It's like reciprocal.

I know, but you're treating a relationship like a job where it's like you deserve to get an hourly wage for just spending time with him. I'm not even having sex. I'm not even dating right now. I really am not even dating right now. I'm not even saying that like you are doing this currently. I'm just saying that like in general. You have the mentality of the average girl in their mid-20s at this point who,

from my perspective, the guys out there. I'm really down to earth though, though. It's like I can have, I can have relationships that like aren't contingent upon like someone funding my life. Yeah. You would be in a relationship like that with somebody like me, but it's because you'd be getting something else out of it. Well, what do you mean?

The esteem of being a relationship with me, probably. The esteem? Yeah. Like, it would feed my ego. Yeah. But then at some point that's going to wear away. That doesn't mean shit to me, honestly. Like, that doesn't.

Okay. But like, let's take me out of it. If Drewski and you had like hit it off on that show and you guys ended up a relationship and he told you. like the same thing I'm saying which is like basically like I'm not a trick I'm not like bawling out spending money on you or whatever if you want to be with me you're going to have to be with me on the basis of who I am. Drewski is definitely a trick.

Allegedly like he's I believe it. Also he's balling out. Most guys that are bowling out are tricking. It's just like that's kind of what you do. But all I'm saying is if he wasn't you would probably still be in a relationship with him because of the fact that then you're fucking Drewski's girlfriend and there's like a lot of social clout. A lot of guys that have caught like to keep like to keep like to keep the relationships private

I feel like also like. And that's what you're basically. paying. That's what, that's, okay, you're working for free by dating him

because you get the status of being his girlfriend. Now, if he was keeping you secret to, you probably get sick of that pretty quick. Yeah, for sure.

But I feel like that's what guys prefer, so they almost pay to, like, keep the discretion. Like you said, it's like, I really feel like men

want more private lives. You know, it's like they don't like to be exposed. They don't like to have their business out there. Because they have a wife or a girlfriend or something. Or, yeah,

they just don't want the backlash of like, with like a hoe you know it's like they just you're putting yourself in the hoe box and not me i'm talking about in general how people would view you what do you mean like my well i mean you know like you do only fans so it's like to me that doesn't make you a hoe but to probably the average person they're going to look at you as different right probably because like me and my girl have talked about this there's never been a rich famous celebrity athlete actor etc who has wifed up a porn star. It's just never happened. It's never happened. And that's why

Drewski taking Skybury to the basketball game and sitting courtside. That's why that was so shocking to people. And she doesn't even do porn currently. She doesn't have porn in like two, three years or whatever. So neither do I. So I'm like, I wouldn't put myself in the whole category because I'm like, I'm not actively like doing whole shit. But to like real joints, like dudes who are really like

a big deal. You're a multimillionaire. You're world famous, etc. A girl who just has only fans though. But just doing only fans, like your vagina is on the internet. But like, even like an NBA guy. Yeah. NBA guy is not dating a girl with the only fans. Publicly.

If she's showing her vagina. Yeah, they'll fuck you for sure, but they're not like. And I'm not saying that they shouldn't. I think they actually should. I think the world should be more open-minded about that. Yeah, I agree. But it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen.

Yeah, I feel like I would have to agree. I feel like men like to have their, their kinks and shit, like, in the closet. Like they don't like to like. Okay, but I'll give you an example. There's a girl that now named Melissa Straussie. And she's a porn star and she's hot. And at one point, I'm looking at her story and I see that she's with Sean Evans, who's the host of hot, what's it called?

Hot ones. Yeah. The bald guy. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. And they're like in the section at the club and they're taking photos together. And it kind of looks like a fan photo where like she was just taking photo on, but then it also kind of looks like these guys arm around her in such a way that like

kind of makes it look like they got something going on. sure but so then it comes out like in the news like oh they're dating and i'm like holy fuck i can't believe it because this is like the most famous non-porn dude i've ever seen dating a porn star or whatever and i think it took like 24 hours before he ended the relationship with her once it became viral really yeah and he unfollowed me because i said congratulations she's got fireproof so that's insane i was not familiar with this i didn't know i didn't know they were actually dating. Yeah, I didn't know they were actually dating either.

So I didn't even know, this was a relationship. This was like a couple years ago. Yeah. But all I'm saying is like all it took was this shit going viral that he was in a relationship with her. For him to just like, shut it down.

For him to basically be like, well, I can't do this. He got cold feet. Yeah. Yeah. And I kind of. So what made you like cuff a porn star? I'm a savage. Okay.

So you got that dog in you? Yeah, I'm just like. So. I met my girl and we started And on FaceTime with, like, her friends, like, right away. And then, like, pretty quickly, like, I'm banging her for her only fans and stuff like that. Like, she didn't even have to ask. I just started doing it.

And, like, pretty soon we're doing, like, real porn. I was just always, like, I don't know. I feel like some people are good with that. Some people aren't, you know, it's like some people are with that. But I feel like most guys that are in, like, the public eye, they just don't want the opinion. I'm the kind of guy who like at the first suggestion of it, I was fucking on Onlyfans, which if you really think about that, there's like almost no guy is going to do that, right? Like I was... That does make you a savage for you.

I was all about it. You were all about it? Super hyped on it, yeah. Really? Yeah. Even before my wife, I was like, I would post like crazy shit with girls on Snapchat and this was before you... Is it like an adrenaline rush? Like you just like the thrill of it?

Yeah. I just liked people hit me up about it. I think I always been an exhibitionist. Yeah. Yeah. So I was kind of built for it, I think, but average guy, not so much. I guess not average because you're saying like this is not very typical. Yeah, well, as I'm saying, like, the average guy is just not really going to.

But we're talking about like not average guys. I'm talking about guys that are like of some sort of status. That's what I'm saying. Not just like not average guys, but even average guys, even above average guys, really almost every guy. But if a guy's broke, he'll date a pornster. but then usually they'll like start to get over it at some point i could never be like the trick in the relationship like that just would never make sense to me well the weird part about it with me and my wife is that at some point she's going to like not be doing as much porn or probably stop shooting

with other guys at some point and then i'm probably going to keep shooting with other girls yeah and i don't know like she doesn't care currently but i wonder how that will affect her down the road, like if she'll actually start to care at some point. Right, it's like you became the full porn star. Yeah, which is kind of weird. That was never part of the plan. Right, the tables turned. But it's like why would we stop doing a business that makes like a legitimate amount of

money? Just I mean, she says it herself that she doesn't get jealous at all. Yeah. She doesn't care at all. Which is almost like, you're supposed to care a little bit. Babe. Do you get jealous? I don't know. Not really at this point. Yeah, because it's like, it's locked in.

Yeah. You're in too deep now. It's like, why would you get jealous of something that, like, you know is solidified? Yeah, kind of. What, uh, so has the way guys react to you, has it changed since the Drewski show? I wouldn't say it's changed. Like, it's not just guys. I'd say, like, in general, like, it's a little bit more, like, exposure that I've been getting.

like it's more people that have recognized me from the show that has definitely like been new because that's not like my new my new thing it's like you have a whole new identity because you have a normal name and now you have a name that's almost like yeah it's like exactly jumbochon shit pop in it's like yeah when i tried to find stuff of you on youtube it is you were trying to find stuff of me you were trying to do your research anybody i interview i got to look them up but i've like you haven't asked anything that's like giving me that you did your research well i didn't really find anything so like but the drake jumbo tron shit's like but the drac jumbotron shit's That was pretty much the main thing.

Yeah. Jumbo Chon Shia Poppin, which is actually produced by Filthie. Full Circle. We just went from your name to the Jersey, just like that. Exactly. That's insane. No, but so what are your plans going forward? Do you see yourself doing more reality TV type shit?

I could see myself doing like more, maybe not really, maybe reality TV, but like not on that, like, scale. It was a little bit like disorganized for me I mean even compared to like real reality shows on TV That's probably like one of the biggest ones Because I mean 10 million views per episode It's pretty crazy It is crazy

I'm pretty sure I can't really imagine how many viewers Love Island gets but Might not be like too far away from that Even though I know it's gigantic Do you watch Love Island? I've never seen it I like it I never seen it

But I'm like so okay So you don't even know what the fucking Nug Boys is somehow, but they made their own Love Island. Okay. And I'm very invested in this right now. Really? This is what you're into? So you like reality TV?

Like, you like to... You know, I'm more like curious about the YouTuber side of it because it just feels a little closer to home. Yeah? Yeah. So would you ever do something like that? Like you... We made, we did a reality show.

Really? It was to find the guy that was going to do the first guy, guy, guy, girl threesome with me and my wife. Wow. That was our hook. That's fire. It did pretty good, too. I got like a million views an episode.

But it was weird because YouTube, like, hit it. Like, you can't search for it. Wow, probably because it's like what may be, like, more like explicit. Like right from when it was coming out, you just couldn't really search for it. And I don't really understand why. And I never was able to figure that out. And I want to do it again. But also, like, we don't really have.

Season two? Do you think there's going to be a season three of Kroleth? Probably if I was him, I would keep doing it. You think so? I mean, yeah. That was our problem, though, is that we did that. And then it's kind of like, well, what's the next one? going to be right i feel like it was way more like intense this time like i watched season one and i

had a little bit of like you know expectation but then i was like when i got there i was like this is seems way like way more fighting than i really yeah anticipated i mean that's that's what moves the needle i guess you know just sucks that you can't watch it with the fighting like they blur it blur it what is that because youtube like kind of like you're saying like you're like they just kind of hide but they could put it on them they can make it safe they could put it on members where you pay five bucks a month or whatever. Yeah. And then not edited.

They probably go. There's so much footage that has been lost. Okay, but this is what happens to the Nuck Boys, who, again, you don't know who they are, but they made their own show of Love Island, including with like Love Island logos and shit like that. They made their own version. And I'm pretty sure that Love Island filed copyright strikes, got all of their TikToks deleted, got the YouTube video deleted.

And they only, they dropped one. I think it was left for like a week or two. That got taken down. and they still haven't dropped episode two. Okay, so it's over. Like, it's just, it's done. They might have spent, like, if I'm going to guess, I'll say that they probably spent, like,

at least, like, half a million dollars filming that shit. What? I mean. For it to just flop? Well, flop slash, like, got taken down. And now they maybe can't post the rest of it. That's crazy. Yeah.

The copyright shit. I mean, yeah, I wouldn't have really expected that. But also, I wouldn't have used their load on stuff. That's when they need a good lawyer. Like, they need. Yeah, but they probably, do have good lawyers and they probably still are fucked i don't know it's crazy that's that's crazy i feel for them but also i'm okay i'm kind of relieved because when they were planning it at one point

they hit us up me and my wife and they were like yo wanted you to come on yes yeah and then they like a couple weeks later i was like yo what's happened with that and they're like oh we're kind of like they don't have any couples on it so like i guess that's probably like why like a special guest though like you could have like star yeah and i was already like probably like probably not going to do it just because I didn't want to take a week off to go film somebody else's reality show. But the fact that it got taken down, I'm just so like, phew, because I could have gone out there, spent my own money to be out there, film somebody else's reality show, and then have never come out. Yeah. That would have been horrible. Can I like go to the restroom first?

Well, I think we're like pretty much done anyway. Pretty much done. Yeah. So what do you want to tell the world? What do I want to tell the world? Um, jumbo shit tron pop in. Um, jibbo shit top. He's just stuck shit in the middle of Jumbotron. Jambotron popping. For sure. Jumbotron shit poppin. And what's your Instagram for the guys who want to send their applications?

Sage the sweetest. There it is. And what are you looking for? What do they need to say in the DMs if they want to win you over? I don't know. They need to get creative. F3.

I was looking for a snack. You don't know about that one? I don't know about that one. The game, you know the rapper of the game? Yeah. He was DM in time. tons of girls F3 and then they would be in my DMs oh well was he trying to sell you a feature or was just hollering I think he was just hollering nice I respect the horniness but uh he would say F3 and they'd say what

and then he'd say no he'd say oh I thought this was a vending machine I was looking for a snack okay that's not bad right that's definitely that's just like corny I mean you can't use the same line on five million different girls and then not expect to get exposed for it at some point. But as a standalone line, I think it's pretty good. Because most rappers are sending hard eyes. Just hard eyes? Or just some bullshit. I like, I don't like the DMA.

Yeah. I'm just like, I'm past that. And that's the problem with me with all these random hoses that I feel like my level of conversation is like a little advanced for them. And then they get kind of weirded at. They don't want a guy that's going to be like talking their ear off about what's going on in the world the whole time. looking for hose. I'm just like...

Well, like, if I was. If you were, hypothetically. And I am trying to find hose, but not to, like, wipe up. I'm just trying to get them to shoot porn with us. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So they think that, you think that you're too advanced to, like, find some just, like, regular hose? I feel like myself personally.

Are you, like, shooting your shot actively? Are you just like... No. I'm just saying, when I find myself hanging out with random retarded hose, I oftentimes find myself, like, starting conversations that then I just feel like they're, like, kind of staring at me, like... Do you feel like that? Yeah. Not with you.

Not with me? No, but with some girls. Okay. If you want to do porn, let me know, though. I'll help you out. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Change your whole plan?

I could be into it. Do a little porn career and then get into the college world. Yeah, I'm ready to just, like, be back in school. You just do porn, too. A bell of danger did it. Exactly. you can do both. You can do both.

She is like the only person I know really like successfully went back to college once she was already like internet famous for something else. So, cross to her. Okay,

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