No Jumper - JustPearlyThings on How She Got Red Pilled, Andrew Tate, Her Body Count & More

Episode Date: January 2, 2023

Happy new year! JustPearlyThings linked up with Adam to debate about high-value men, Adam's side activities, social media, beauty standards, all the red pill tropes, and more. ----- 00:00 Intro 4:12 Pearl's played semi-pro volleyball in England and what sports were instilled in her 8:41 Pearl breaks down her Tik Tok career being ended for calling a girl a wh*le and argues that it's more dangerous for men to walk alone at night 11:52 Pearl speaks on her how she started doing "red pill" content 13:11 Thoughts on Kevin Samuels and "high value men", Pearl says if you're aiming to be with the 1% man, he's probably going to cheat 16:25 Pearl doesn't think all guys cheat and that nerds are always going to be more faithful 20:05 Pearl on doing her own show after breaking up with her boyfriend 23:02 Adam breaks down why he used to love Tinder so much and reveals the most amount of women he's been with in a week 26:23 Pearl on her last relationship and why things didn't work out 27:34 How she casts people for her show, choosing an "ok looking" girl who thinks she's hot rather than an actual hot girl 31:06 Pearl "red pilling" other women is her favorite type of videos 35:47 Pearl reacts to having Andrew T and Brittany Renner on the panel 39:15 Adam asks Pearl about his side career and says she's more worried about how that content could impact the children 44:03 Pearl on never watching it before and guys always wanting to show her after finding out that she's never seen it 53:01 Adam asks Pearl how she feels about not doing anything until getting married 57:19 Pearl and Adam on the importance of being able to cook as a woman 58:30 Adam says that 99% of the England population is doing snow, even the Queen 1:05:10 Pearl on having mixed feelings about young men hiring women of leisure 1:08:35 Adam asks Pearl if she would date Nick Fuentes 1:09:50 Pearl gives her take on Karmen Karma 1:13:20 Pearl's fully support the pay gap, calls women lazy 1:19:35 The type of content Pearl wants to make in the future and says her brothers would never let her think she's a 10 1:22:01 Pearl on if being around women who get tons of male attention affects her or not 1:24:50 Adam has a list of all of the women he's been with 1:26:10 Pearl says she broke even on the Andrew Tate video, and demonetization 1:27:15 Pearl speaks on her new piece of content "Wife School" and if you could raise a child on $500 a month 1:31:35 Adam says that women in Miami that stay in the club just get a BBL and stand around hoping for someone to notice them 1:32:37 Adam and Pearl breakdown men always saying they prefer women who don't wear makeup and Pearl says that men have higher beauty standards than women 1:37:01 Pearl says that the lack of masculinity in men today is women's fault ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper. Coolest podcast on the world. And today, what am I calling you? Just Pearl? Yeah, Pearl. Pearl is your first name. What's your last name? Davis.

Pearl Davis. Okay, cool. And should we explain who you are? How do you explain who you are? How do I explain to me? If you met me and I'm just a dude in the bar, how are you explaining yourself? Oh, gosh. Do people that don't know the content?

Yeah. Like, I don't even know what the red pill is. I would say I do a live show four times a week on relationships. Okay. Where men and women argue about relationships. Okay. Interesting. All right. And so where are you from?

I want to get the early backstory so we know where you're coming from. I'm from Chicago. Okay. Where at? O'block or a nicer part? Yeah, I'm from the hood. Really? Like, actually?

That'd be pretty cool. No, no. No, I'm from, it's, I probably won't say the name, but it's like 45 minutes from Chicago. Okay. So I have nine siblings. I grew up there. Wow. And nine siblings.

So are your parents like religious maniacs or what? My mom's Catholic, but my dad isn't that religious. I don't know. They're kind of. He just like breeding? Well, it's kind of an interesting story. I don't know. You want me to go into it?

Sure. Okay. So I grew up with six kids in the house and I was the second out of six. So I was the oldest girl. I was between two boys. Then when I was 22, I found out I had a brother that my parents gave up for adoption. So he grew up with like a different family. but he's so I found I was like oh I have two older brothers I don't even know and then um they adopted three teenagers that were just in bad situations so like one kid was homeless on my brother's football team um another one was like or two because my dad's one of 13 my mom's one of nine kids I have a lot of cousins so two were like second cousins that just weren't in the best situation so they took in three teenagers um but they were like 16 when they lived with us so like they only lived with us for like two years this seems like very resource intensive what were your parents

doing that they were able to take care of this massive community of kids? So my mom and my dad met when my mom just got out of high school, my dad was a couple years older, and they started a software company, and they did that for like 25 years, and then they sold it like two years ago, maybe. Okay. And so they're just relatively wealthy off that. That's always been good to them? Yeah.

Nice. And so how would you describe how they raised you and what your upbringing was like? like oh it was good um i really enjoyed having a lot of siblings i feel like okay i feel like when you're when you have a lot of siblings you always know that you ain't because because they'll make funny you know and then you're always like trying to get good at stuff because you're like competing for your parents attention so i think it's good for children i think about that a lot of times with my kid where her entire life up to this point has been me my girl and everybody else in our family, whatever, just praising her nonstop.

And that, yeah, like, sometimes I think about how much she loves the dog and the cats. And it's like if we didn't have the dog and the cats, knowing now how much she loves them, it feels like I would have been doing her a massive disservice. And now I'm starting to feel that way about siblings, too, is like if I don't give her a brother and sister, I feel like it's going to be in a lot of ways, kind of detrimental. Like her growing up as the only child. I think it's not ideal. How old is she?

Two. Do you want more kids? Yeah, definitely. How many? At least one, maybe two. Okay, cool. Yeah. I'm not going for nine.

Yeah. Maybe, though. I don't know. You know, I really... Depends how business goes, really. I loved it. If I find myself with $50 million, I mean, what else am I going to do? You should...

Honestly, I love my siblings. Like, I literally, I don't know what I would do without my siblings. Right. Yeah, I recommend big families to anyone that can do it. Yeah. I think there's something good about it, especially me seeing her family because they're Armenian, so they're like very tight knit, you know, and they like help each other a lot. And they're a lot more like the way you would expect families to have been throughout most of history. And like, I don't know.

It's just there's a lot to that that I see like the vast majority of people not having going on these days. Okay, so what was, I don't know, like what kind of were you into as a kid or at what point did you start to find yourself in high school or whatever? I was an athlete So a lot of people don't know this I still play semi-pro volleyball in England Wow Yeah so that's that's like how I was always just into sports

I played volleyball, basketball And I ran track in college So that was like all I cared about When I was a kid I was just like Yeah really into sports Where did you go to college? Elmhurst College Okay

In Chicago I spent a year at Ohio Northern But then I transferred I don't know anything about Higher learning to be honest But There's small schools most people haven't. Okay.

They're like. It's not just me. All right, cool. But so, you're doing sports. That was like your primary focus. And I don't know. Where do you go from there? What was college like for you?

College? I was just really into sports. Like, that was the only thing I cared about for the longest time was just like getting good at volleyball. And I wanted to take that as far as I could. And I feel like a lot of kids kind of get trapped in that, that sports thing. And the reality is that that's such a time. percentage of people have a future in it professionally or whatever but so many kids end up being so singularly focused on that thing for such a huge percentage of their childhood yeah yeah I was

actually thinking about this the other day I loved sports I still do I love playing but I was thinking I'm like it is the most useless skill that I have right it doesn't really impact almost I mean discipline sure you know there are elements of it like just working hard to get good at something in general like when I look at my bike riding career quote unquote or like all the time I spent riding BMX bikes. I mean, I learned a ton about life from that, but it wasn't really like the sport part of it. It was more like the social skills that I developed from just being out and about and having to like take care of myself. Yeah, I would say the biggest like lessons I learned.

One was that life isn't always fair. And like you can whine and complain about your coaches not playing you or doing whatever. But like my mom would always tell me like when you start something, you have to finish it so you can't quit midseason like none of that stuff. And I would say it taught me to get along with people. And yeah, that's the biggest ones. Okay. So at what point does the sport dream go away? Well, kind of never.

I'm still doing it. Right. But I mean like when did other shit start creeping in? So I graduated college. I got a degree in economics and business administration. I got a certification in market research. Then I worked in sales for two years and I hated it It was the worst job on the planet

Doing what kind of sales? Oh my gosh, copier You see your copier out there I was looking at it because They just bought that Everybody has something to say about it I could tell you if you got a good deal Yeah because I sold them for two years And they're horrible because they're all the same

They're not like how much do you really think about your copier I have not been consulted about the copier in any way I can't even imagine what they are copying I would imagine most of this is happening online. It was a horrible job. Really? Yeah, and so then I did that for two years and then I decided to go to England to play semi-pro volleyball and then I was going to see if I could play pro for a year or two. So I got recruited because semi-pro is like you mess in England like you play in England for a year and then they recruit you to like Germany or Spain or whatever. Okay. And then I got my

in the middle of getting my master's like for that. I didn't really care about the degree. I just like pick something but it was just like discounted and it was like okay. Right. What kind of living can you make as a pro volleyball player? Oh, see, that was the decision that I had to make like six months ago because I got offered a pro contract. But it's less than two grand a month for free. And you get free housing. And you can work your way up if you play for a couple of years to maybe three or four. Like, but that takes so long and like what's the future in it? And so I got offered like the pro contract in the fall. And I was just like looking at it. I'm like I can move all my equipment. and all my people and all this, but it's like for what?

Had you really thought about how horrible this career path really was, like throughout your time playing volleyball, that like success would be not even a living wage? My goal was never to go pro. I never thought that would be like, I just missed playing, so I was like, I'll go play. So it was like I was in sales for two years, and I wanted to do something else.

And then I had one TikTok go viral, so I was like, oh, maybe I could just, be a TikToker. Doing what? Volleyball stuff? No, oh my gosh. I had a whole like TikTok career before I even did the like the red, like the red pill manosphere type stuff.

What was the TikTok career? Because everybody's got like a, at least attempted TikTok career these days it feels like. Well, I was almost to a million on TikTok. I got to $850,000 and then they took away my account. For what? I called a girl a whale. But she called me ugly first. I'd like to say.

It was a retaliation. Right. So she, okay, I was doing the street interview and we were talking about safety. And I was saying, like, I don't understand why girls walk. Like, they're always like, oh, I can't walk home alone at night. I'm like, neither can the men. Nope. Why are you walking home alone at night in a dangerous city?

I'm like, you're not entitled to safety. I've interviewed infinite people who got shot and killed or nearly killed just basically from like walking home at night. Nobody should feel comfortable doing this in Chicago or L.A. I mean, you know, you should probably feel, most people should probably feel comfortable, but like if you have something worth taking, you know, which every woman kind of like inherently does in a way, you should probably be careful about walking on a night, right? Well, and I would argue it's less safe for men than for women because, because if me and you like both got attacked, right? You're pretty tall. I feel like they wouldn't. Maybe if you're like smaller, but. I'll tend to get left alone for the most part, but let's say, let's say you were like 5-8, you know, or 5-10, whatever. And it's me versus you.

Like if a guy gets attacked, like, no guy is going to come and help him usually. But if a girl gets attacked, like, I would argue that, like, more guys are willing to, like, come and help. And this was demonstrated during the whale attack. So what happened was this girl got really mad when I said that. So she's like, I'll have you. I'll have you, you slag. And I was in London. I didn't know what a slag meant.

I don't know what a slag is, but I knew I was being insulted. Insulted. Right. And so I was just like, whatever, you're a whale anyway. And then she's like knocking the mic out of my hand trying to punch me or whatever and like I was mad because there was another guy there the only reason I brought him was so so I could not get hit and he kept letting her back towards me whatever we got on video so but that clip got me kicked off because I called her a whale Which which is just like she attacked me first all I did was call her a whale I hate the idea that you could have called her an idiot and that that would have been okay that you can install her intelligence but that somehow insulting her the shape of her fat body that that's over the line and if anything whales are beautiful majestic creatures yeah why does that have to even be yeah who is tick talk and

who are they to be making this decision about what I meant by whale I could have meant anything yeah and if anything I should apologize to the whales in the sea for comparing them to fat chicks right yeah you ever seen Pinocchio chippetto who gets swallowed up by a whale No, I haven't seen it. I mean, oh, okay. It's a good flick. But, okay, so you're just like, what, kind of doing the social media thing? How would you have identified politically throughout college?

Oh, I would always say I was more conservative, but, like, a couple years in college, I didn't really, like, care. Because I don't, I didn't vote in the first election for, like, Hillary versus Trump. I was like, I don't know, this is crazy. And I was just kind of chilling. Right. But I mean, so how did you get attracted to doing the sort of content that you're doing now? Like how to edit this whale incident sort of lead to that? Oh, the whale.

Well, I just thought it was interesting. So, like, the first time I used to do rap video reactions, it would be like, I've done, I've had a lot of very random things. Yeah. That's what it sounds like. Like, I used to do house tours. I did relationship quizzes. I did like, oh my gosh, I did so many different types of content. I used to do.

Were they all successful to some extent? or were you varying degrees I also used to do relationship content it just it depends some did well some didn't but I forgot what I was talking about

the whale incident and how that led to oh and so what happened was when I was doing rap video reactions someone sent me a Kevin Samuels video and that was like the beginning of me and like the red pill stuff was I started reacting to Kevin Samuels

and I just I just thought it was really interesting So what was your first reaction to Kevin Samuels? I was triggered. Really? You're upset by it at first? Yeah, because they were talking about how high value men cheat. And I was like, my dad doesn't cheat.

And so I was so offended. I was like, dad, they said you have a hoads. Where are they at? And yeah, they ended up. Yeah, but then I understood what Kevin Samuels was saying. It's just like if you go for a top 1% guy, it's like more likely that he'll cheat. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, and I was like, oh, that's probably true.

Definitely. But I mean, okay, that's my whole thing about the cheating conversation that I was just listening to Britney Runner and Andrew Tate argue about, and I only made it halfway through that podcast. So I don't actually, is it more bombastic towards the end? I'd say it's more calm. The most, I don't know, there is. There's a lot of flare-ups in there.

There's a lot. Definitely. But, I mean, the whole thing with cheating is that it's like, if you're a high-value guy, the truth is that you could negotiate terms in your relationship realistically better than most guys. And I think that that doesn't mean that a lot of guys try to do this thing where they just cheat and then they're just like, oh, well, like, I'm great. I'm a dude.

I'm high value. So therefore I should be able to get away with it. But they don't want to negotiate it beforehand. They just want to do it until they get caught. And then once they get caught, they kind of fall back on this like Manifere argument that they heard Adutate say on TikTok one time when in reality we know that there's tons of happy polyamorous relationships out there. I know tons of people are in these kind of relationships.

And it's like they're equal for the most part. You know, like both sides feel like they can do whatever. And me and my girl at some point decided that we just didn't want to do any of that, you know, and that we would rather just be faithful aside from the OnlyFans stuff. And I don't know. It feels weird that this is like so hard for people to wrap their head around. The idea that like high value guys can normally negotiate better terms for the relationship. Yeah.

Yeah. But then it's also, I also would like to caveat, what did you expect from the girls? Who? The girl, because you were talking about how the guy won't tell the girl up front. Right. I agree. You should. But if you're in a relationship, you should expect the other person to be honest with you. I agree with you. I agree. You should. But my thing is like, girls will go after these like athletes, you know, in the top, like NBA, NFL, like, what did you expect?

What do you think Cadet was going to happen? Right. You should, but I just, you know, like, Andrew Tate was talking about it, how it's just like, it's going to be a higher probability. And the question is, like, what will you do if that happened? A lot of girls are bad judges of character because the truth is that, you know, there's probably a fucking nice percentage of dudes in the NBA that are in happy relationships and they would never consider cheating, you know?

I think there's probably a good amount of it. There's a lot of normal fucking dudes in the NBA. I don't know. Maybe my percentages are out of whack, but I don't know. I would think that there's a good chunk of them who aren't necessarily tempted. Because I could tell you right now that I could be fucking, God knows how many girls. And I just don't really feel tempted by it because I know it's out there. I know I could do it.

And it just because it's so obvious and easy, it doesn't really feel that tempting. Yeah, I mean, I don't think all guys cheat. Right. Like, I think that's probably where I disagree with some of the other content creators in the space. I just think you should know if you go after those type of guys it's more likely. So if you want to go after a rich guy, what are your

like I would guess that like nerds are going to be more faithful than like the NBA athletes who have girls with being thrown at them after every game. I mean a nice percentage of guys are going to cheat no matter what for sure. I've seen it throughout my life for even the biggest fucking losers who end up with the hottest chicks

that are the most out of their league. It just still, you know, they just end up doing it because they just get bored and they're just not done. Like I didn't settle down and get into a serious relationship until I had already fucked like 300 girls and I already was just so over it and just like didn't care anymore and felt like my life was kind of like unraveling as a result of my promiscuity. 300.

Wow. And I didn't have any kind of cloud or anything either. I was a regular guy. Just going to the bar going on Tinder. Wow. That's a lot of girls. I know. It's way worse now.

It was probably more like 600 now. Oh my God. Just from on camera. shit. Oh, wow. Yeah, but I don't really know if I should count that anyway. That's like getting a hooker. Getting a hooker don't count either. I don't know. That's a different world. Yeah. But that's a different. I don't know much about that. No, definitely. But okay, tell me that. Your opinion, should a guy count prostitutes on his list of sex partners? Because you did take the risk of getting an SDD with each person. So in that way, I could

see counting it but then on the other hand to me your sex partner count is really more about like how many women you actually like got to consent to want to have sex with you and if you're giving them money that just feels kind of i mean isn't isn't a partner count like how many people you have sex with so then wouldn't they count i guess it's about how how like why you want that data because to me the data is is not so much about like preventing STDs like you can get tested for that it's more about like well for a guy at least it's like or i guess with a girl it's just kind of like how many dudes you chose to let pass the fucking goalpost right because we all know there's a constant stream of guys trying to get in there yeah yeah i don't know i don't know 600 oh my god

that's that's so many that's nothing i know it's way worse than that nut i know many dudes are in the thousands yeah how like doesn't that take up a lot of time in retrospect yeah especially since I'm not really like on that now since now I'm like doing it in this very like time wise it's like very package you know like do like two or three scenes

in a day so I can just kind of knock them out do you I'd say do you miss it ever but you're still doing the scenes so it's kind of the same or no yeah but the whole thing about being promiscuous is that it's really more about like the chaos of it the drugs and the drinking and the fucking staying out and just, you know, it's like that, that really was like such a big part of it. Now it's like, you know, the girls sign contracts

and they're fucking, they show up and they, you know, just leave and go back to their boyfriend and there's no like mystery about it. There's no flirting. It's just like a body, you know, so it doesn't really, it just feels way different. Yeah, I don't know. Sorry, I like Donald. I forgot you're like a normal person. Okay, so. a different world. How do you feel free, whatever you need to know, just ask away. But so at what point do you really start to, you start reacting to the Kevin Samuel ship, but then when you start to decide to do your own show?

Oh, well, it was in, I had a boyfriend before and we broke up in like December to like February. I don't remember one. But I was really sad. And so I was like, I'll just do a show. And we could talk about relationships. because the cool thing about London was you can meet people from like every walk of life and from everywhere. So I can meet someone from Italy and from Spain and from I can have a girl on my basketball team that's like that's from London. I could meet everyone and the cultures will be really, really different.

And I just thought that was so cool. I'd never lived anywhere that was like that diverse, you know? So February 27th was my first show. So almost that a year. And yeah, basically. I just thought we could come in and talk about something that everyone has in common, which is relationships. And but why did you, like what was it about the relationship thing specifically that drew you to it? I just thought it was interesting.

And I just thought it was interesting to hear things from the men's point of view. I don't know if I told you this. I went to a pickup conference. Really? Yeah. Like I wanted to see. It was like where guys learned to like get laid, I guess. So there's not a lot of women there, I would assume?

Oh, there's a, well, it wasn't a, sorry, I don't know what to call it. It was like 10 guys that, like, go and instructors, like, they take them out in Vegas and we're like, go talk to that girl, make sure you touch your back or like. And you were just observing this because you were interested in it? Yeah, the video is still on my channel. I made a YouTube video. Okay. And I just thought that was interesting. It'd kind of be like if you went to a gold diggers conference, it would be interesting. Well, I went through like a period of time in like 2007, I guess, when I got into the game, that fucking Neil Strauss book and, like, was very interested in the pickup thing and read all about it. And definitely felt like I learned a lot from it, although I also ended up feeling like such a huge percentage of it.

It was just like the most cringe shit I had ever seen in my life in terms of just like the magic tricks and the leather cowboy hats, peacocking type stuff. I don't know. But, okay, so did that change your way that you thought about relationships and dating? Yeah, because it really put me in the men's point of view because, I mean, I'm just there observing, but you're still trying to help them. You know what I mean?

Because you're kind of like on the guy's side. And it was like these guys that were, I mean, they weren't super good looking. They're okay. They get like harshly rejected by these whales, like these huge girls. And I'm just like, I'm just like, she's rejecting him. Do you know what I mean? And I was like, oh my gosh, it is hard for guys. Yeah.

It is. Not for you, Mr. 600. Yeah, but it took a lot of fucking work to get those numbers in realistically. There's a lot of failed nights at the bar where I, you know, didn't get anything going on. Oh, okay. It really says a lot about how much I went out. and how much it was on Tinder. And I shouldn't say Tinder

because it was like MySpace and plenty of fish and all these fucking other weird ass sites before that, to be honest. So you understand why I'm perfectly happy to be in a relationship now because it was just this element of chaos in my life. And the thing I loved about Tinder at first

ended up being basically why I hated it as well because at first it just gave me such access to be able to meet so many different girls. And then it just became like, oh my dating life is tending to these like 40 different DM conversations on tinder that i have going on and i just found that to be like the most miserable thing that really kind of killed it going out in real life getting late was fun but tinder not so much this made it too much of a fucking robotic weird thing where i was just like hanging out with a different chick every night

and just doing the same thing over and over what's the what's the before the what do you Is it only fans or that stuff? What was the most amount of girls you slept with in a week? Well, I had this girlfriend before my current fiancé, and I remember she left for a week. And we had the kind of relationship at that time where she thought that we were in an exclusive relationship just because she wanted to be. And I thought that we were clearly not in an exclusive relationship because I just did not want to be. And like she felt like she had had the conversation with me.

and I felt like she absolutely had not had the conversation with me, so I don't really know if maybe she was just kind of vague about it, or maybe she was just totally lying herself. But either way, I go and I pick her up from the airport on New Year's Eve, and I fucking, you know, we go to some house party, and somebody ends up giving us ecstasy, and we fucking end up, like, partying for hours and going back to my place, like, three in the morning

and fucking for a couple hours, and then I go to take, like, an ecstasy shit, and she chooses to go through my phone while I'm experiencing the amazing feeling that is taking a shit while you're off a bean. And she goes through my phone. And she was very, very quickly able to ascertain that I had slept with at least six girls in the week that she was gone. And yeah, that was very upsetting to her. And the thing that I found weird about it was that I had not even processed or thought about the fact that I slept with that many girls in that short period of time.

because I think I was kind of like in denial about how I was living at the time. Did she stay? For a little while. They always do. I mean, I could have fucking wife to. But you know what it was with her? It was like she had like the most boring fucking like I, for most of my life I dealt with chicks were like artists or models or you know, whatever.

They're like doing something. They're trying to become something. This chick was like she had gone to college to be a graphic designer, got a good job making like 90,000. dollars a year and then had to like go and get on like antidepressants because she hated her existence so much and was so miserable with her life and then meanwhile I'm at the beginning stages of like starting this podcast so I'm just like overjoyed every day and I'm staying out to like four in the morning every day and she's getting up at like six in the morning to go to work and it was just like I can't believe we even date it for any period of time it's insane how did this work?

I don't know anyway um so when's the last time you were in relationship are you in one now No, it was last year. Okay. And why did this end? Um. Wasn't high value enough? No. Um, no, he, he was really successful.

Um, I just think like our backgrounds were a little too different. In what way? You're from Chicago from a Mormon family and he's, he was what? Um, he just didn't have the best like, like, home life. I don't know. And I just feel like that caused issues. And then I probably, you know, he would probably say other stuff too. So I don't know.

I try not to. Well, what is your like expectation of a relationship at this point in your life, though? Like, could you see yourself easily getting into a relationship? Or do you feel like it's not happening because you're just focused on grinding this content out? No, I really would like to be in a relationship. Mm-hmm. Yeah. How's that going, though?

Are you, like, actively dating? There's someone I like. We'll see. Really? Is he in the Manistphere? You wouldn't know him. What he is? No, no.

Interesting. Okay, so how'd you end up on the format that you kind of do on the show in terms of, like, the panel and stuff? Like, I don't know. How do you think about the structure of the show? Oh, I love it. I think it's so fun. We just basically, it started with me recruiting, like, athletes mostly, just because those are the people I knew in London. but now it can be people off the street.

Sometimes we recruit them through Instagram. And then every day I'll just walk in. It's like a random panel of people. And I'm like, all right, this is the topic. And you're in charge of putting these together? Do you have anybody helping you with it? Oh, gosh, I have so many people helping me. Really?

I did everything I did myself to start. And people have no idea how much you probably do. But people have no idea how much work it is. Because I used to recruit myself and do the editing and do everything. But now I have a recruiter. We have clippers. and we have editors. Right.

Yeah, you know, what I found out from some girl who, like, told me that she worked for fresh and fit, she told me that she, like, gets paid per girl that she brings to the table, which I thought was interesting. They don't pay her, like, a flat fee. It's, like, buy the body that they're able to bring in, which is kind of interesting, though, because it's, like, clearly chicks are just, like, not made equally, like, some of them, content-wise or visually are going to be, like, very, very, very. valuable and a lot of them just aren't at all.

You know what I would take over a hot chick? What? An ugly chick that thinks she's hot. On camera? Yeah. Yeah, that's definitely most of your clips that have done well, right? Feminist gets reality check. What she realizes is that nobody will fuck her.

I've seen that. We got a clickbait. So what? You figure that out like at a certain point? You're like, yeah, like delusional females for sure is like, that's kind of way. it is. But, you know, delusional people in general. Because

people on the internet, they love that because it's like it rarely can last that long. Because like if you have a dude that's just convinced that he's the hottest shit on earth and he's actually like the wackiest fucking dude you ever seen on earth. Doesn't this sound like somebody that's going to be viral

on YouTube? Because people just can't look away from a fucking train wreck. But in reality is like, how long is this person going to be able to be on camera before they realize that everybody's laughing at him? Yeah, but the thing is, like, men have reality hit them at some point. Because at the end of the day, if you ain't shit as a guy, no one's going to sleep with you. But girls, like, you could still get attention and validation from guys.

Right. But, I mean, I do feel like there's... And a girl telling me she was hotter than Rihanna. Rihanna. I was like, she was a bad look. She was okay. I could have like a five. But I feel like a girl saying that is like a guy saying that they think they're the best rapper.

I've had so many rappers be like, yeah, I think I'm the best rapper. But then their caveat is, I think everybody should feel like that. I think everybody should think they're the best at what they do. And I'm like, okay, so you don't really think it. I don't know that many rappers. Right. But it's kind of like those women who would say like I'm hotter than Rihanna, assuming that she's like not even close because there probably are women who are at least in the conversation.

Sure. But, you know, it's like it's not reality. They're like they're taking on this pose. And there's a lot of that with chick. in general too and that's why it's weird when you see them going fresh and fit or your show and they like start expousing these ideas about how you know they should be like these

are the reality checks that people are so obsessed with is when the girls actually like verbalize their ideas about dating that they've been able to get away with for their whole life and then they just have like a crowd of people that want to debunk that I think my favorite it's funny the show actually isn't what blew up my channel

it was actually red pilling women so it was like I red pilled my friend for the first time and it was like showing her Jordan Peterson. Yeah, I've seen a little bit of this. Yeah, so that's actually my favorite type of videos is like the face I can see on girls when like the wheels are kind of turning in their head and like they just start to see the world differently. I think that's really interesting.

Yeah, because I mean, that is what's interesting. If I think about like throughout high school and college, I don't think I ever had anybody like pushing any kind of conservative ideas on me at all. It was like everybody was just up until maybe like 2016, 2018. I don't know when it started to like kick off where there started to be this like reaction. But it was kind of just like an assumption that everybody was a liberal. Everybody's on the left. Like if you're a young person or whatever, unless you specifically are, you know, identifying from this other thing.

But I don't think I ever met anybody who fucking like, and that says a lot about the world that I was around. But I never met anybody who was like talking about conservative shit until kind of like well into. I think Milo Unopoulos was the first, like, conservative person that I ever had, like, a real conversation with on camera. Oh, I didn't realize you interviewed him. Yeah, way back in the day. Oh, wow. Yeah. I want to see that now.

That'd be so interesting. It was wild. Actually, the shit that he got, like, mega canceled for, he said the same exact shit on my show about basically how, like, young gay boys and, like, older gay men have this sort of, like, natural connection. And basically how it's, like, not that big a deal. It's kind of natural. I didn't actually see that. I do he disappeared. I didn't really know why.

He disappeared and then he popped back. Well, he disappeared because he got deleted all social media pretty much. And then he kind of popped back up as Kanye's campaign manager for like a week. And then he just disappeared again. We really don't know. We don't know why. And he says he's not gay anymore. Oh, wow.

Which is kind of hard to believe. Seems pretty good. You should get Kanye on the show. That would be lit. We did. He canceled the last minute. Or we had him lined up and he canceled like right after. Like he canceled on us at the same time that he canceled on Ian Ross.

Oh. Oh, that's too bad. Yeah, but he didn't call me and tell me that he didn't want to hear about my Jewish conspiracies like he did to Aden. But, okay, where were we? We were just talking about something. I felt we had a good thread going there for a second. I was saying my favorite, the red-pilling women. Right.

So, I don't know, do you feel like you are, like, would you say you fully identify as red-pilled at this time? Or are there, like, parts of the ideology that you feel uncomfortable with or that you're, think are kind of silly? Well, red pill is a praxeology. So it's like the study of human behavior. So it's the studying the intersexual dynamics between men and women. So it's basically looking at data and maybe different people interpret data in different ways, but it's coming to conclusions like based on data. But when I hear red pill, I think of basically the opposite of the blue pill, i.e., you know, viewing the world from a man's point of view and kind of turning feminism on its head and saying, well, actually, maybe the reason why the world ended up sorted out the way it did

is not because of some vast patriarchal conspiracy, but because that was just sort of how things were meant to shake out in the first place and, you know, trying to like understand the world from the perspective of a man. Because I could say for a long time, it felt like there wasn't really like any vantage point of that in like the mainstream media. I mean, I would say that's more like men-centric content, in my opinion. But like when I think of red pill, I think of Rollo Tamasi and I think of like his book. But it's just like dating advice type stuff, right?

I don't seem like that much. No, it's not dating advice. It's again, it's the study of human behavior. Okay. So he lists out the definition of like a praxeology in the book and he lists out. I mean yeah. So, yeah. Right. But I don't know. Are there any ideas

that are like popular in the space that you're uncomfortable with or that you kind of disagree with or are you full on like on board with everything you're this. Oh, Andrew Tate had a cheating party. I feel like that was rude. A cheating party? Yeah, sorry, Andrew. Wait, so he had all his boys get together to cheat on their wives together? No, it was like he invited. It was an old blog. I saw a while back it triggered me. It was like, he brought all his girlfriends to a party and he was like cheating on his girlfriends in front of each other. He like brought all of them and maybe they knew, but at the time I was like,

well, that's rude. If they stick around after that, it's no longer cheating. beating. I agree. Because then you've let them in on what's going on here, right? And they might have known already and maybe just didn't want to know. I don't know. Right. How did you end up bringing, was that Andrew Jay, Brittany Renner thing?

Was that the first time you brought Andrew on, there you had him on your show? Yeah, he, someone from his team reached out to me because he's on Instagram, so I was like, I don't know how I. But yeah, and I'd kind of message with him about coming on the show before he got banned. And then Brittany Renner, I just thought of, I was like, I would be interesting to have them on the same panel. So how'd you get her to London? I flew her out.

Really? That's what you do. You just reach out to people like, I'm going to fly you out. You flew the top G out? No. You got a private plane, right? Yeah. Like, I'll get you some gas.

I don't even think I can afford the gas. I'll get you a flight to London. I can't. Wow. Did that feel like the biggest thing that you had ever made happen though? Yeah. In terms of just bringing like these two really big names together? Yeah.

Was it kind of overwhelming? I didn't know if it would happen because I was supposed to, I was actually supposed to go to Dubai. And it's good that this didn't happen because Brittany wasn't going to go to Dubai. That was like too far for her. That's a really long flight. But I was supposed to go there. And then my manager ended up getting detained because he has a, what's it called, a temporary passport? They don't accept those.

And my passport expires within six months. They wouldn't have let me in the country. So I actually bought a ton of hotels, flights, like for people. I did all this stuff. And then I had to cancel last minute because I wasn't going to get in the country. And then Andrew said, you know what, I'll come to you. And then I reached out to Brittany and was like, hey, I know Dubai was too far. Would you want to come to London?

And then she agreed. And then he agreed. And then it was like five days before he came. I like put everything together. I got the girls. And yeah. Yeah. I mean, what was the thing that you like wanted to hear them discuss the most?

Because the conversation was kind of all over the place. And I'm going to admit that like 45 minutes in. I was like, why the fuck are these two random ladies talking to each other? there instead of the two famous people on the couch. Yeah, no offense to whoever the fuck they are. Yeah, Esther Dinawa. In hindsight, I think I would have just had one of the other girls. I don't think I would have done two.

They just, I didn't want Brittany to feel like she was being like ganged up on. So that was why I brought on like two other people that I thought might have more of like a modern mentality, you know. But my thought was whenever I put together a panel, I always like. putting opposites. Like I always want to see the most conservative and the most liberal person put them in a room together. Or I've always wanted to do a panel of corn stars and nuns. I just think it'd be funny. But I feel like the nuns, like what are the nuns even going to say to the porn stars? It would be great for sure. But I mean, if you're a nun, don't you kind of at a certain point? Just like, okay, like this is my thing. I'm not going to really try to tell the cornstars

is what to do. No, I went to Catholic school. Some of the nuns are opinioned. Some would. Some would. They're like people. You know, some people would somewhat. It's just an interesting, it doesn't have to be a debate.

It doesn't have to be heated, but you can just ask a question that they both would have a different opinion on. And then it's interesting. I feel like the only time that somebody really challenged me on the porn shit was maybe Sneako, who basically just tried to convince me that I was like doing a disservice to men all over the world by making porn, which I really didn't feel too persuaded by, especially. since there's just so much of it out there already. It just doesn't even feel like I'm moving the needle in terms of the total amount of porn out there.

What do you think? Do you think it's fucked up for me to be doing porn? Am I wasting my potential as a human being? Oh, gosh. Does it offend you morally? I don't really care what people do. Like, it's not really my problem, no offense. Do I think it's like a net good for the world?

Not really. I would think more about, like, your kids. like I don't know I personally think it'd be hard to grow up with like a parent that does that stuff that's kind of where my mind goes but again that's respectfully it's like not my problem yeah yeah I really don't care about that you're gonna have to deal with it I just feel like there's that's like a thing that a lot of people do though where they try to take like the world is pretty clearly divided into like kids stuff and grown up stuff like you know I had some friends like these BMX dudes right and they did like an anti-drug seminar at the school one time and mad people in the BMX world were like really mad because they're like you guys drink and you smoke weed and like how can you go to the school and tell these five-year-olds not to do drugs and it's like bro they're fucking kids they're like you know it's like the same thing as driving a car like I don't want my kid to drive a car but I don't feel bad about driving a car in front of her well I guess I'd put it like this growing up I really appreciated having

parents that like didn't have like they were just really clean like clean people in that regards. So like my dad doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, he doesn't have social media, he just works hard and like that's what he does. And it was just like nice to have that to look up to you. I don't have to worry about like my dad's screwing someone I know or like any of my parents' exes getting involved. Like they'd only been with each other. They met each other. Maybe that's not like probable in today's world. But I just, I just think that's like there's less problems with that. Definitely less problems. Because when I think about the fact that it was, it took a long time for me to really like start experimenting with drinking and stuff. And when I think about the

fact that I never really smoked cigarettes for a long time when I was younger and stuff. It's really because my parents, I never saw them drink almost ever. I never saw them smoke. I never even knew about, I never even considered the idea of them cheating or anything like that. They never got divorced. So, you know, I'm probably better off as a result of that. But at the same time, I feel like, you know, at a certain point, like, your kids just

go to kind of deal with your baggage. Because that's the whole thing is that there is this, like, interim time period in a kid's life where like there's there's kid stuff and there's adult stuff and there's like a weird time period where the kid knows about the adult stuff that they can't have anything to do with it would be like if I if I owned a bar and it was always this like kind of weird thing where like the kid wants to go to the bar she wants to she wants to go to dad's work but she can't go to dad's work it's inappropriate and you know it's like it's definitely like that's the weird thing to navigate is like your kid understanding this grown up stuff that you're doing and not necessarily do you think you're kind of like

rolling the dice with that? I think having a kid in general, you're kind of rolling the dice because you're sort of like intentionally creating this thing that you know at some point you're going to be totally incapable of controlling in any way, right? And so, yeah.

I mean, I guess it's a little bit more of a rolling of the dice, but like what's the worst scenario that she like suffers some amount of like bullying or has to deal with it to some extent? I mean, I'm not that worried about that. Would you be okay if she did porn?

As an adult. I don't think it would really be my business, but I definitely wouldn't, like, encourage her to. I'd want to see her pursue anything else possible before she made that decision. Sometimes I feel like that's kind of the sad thing is that I will be interviewing a girl and I'll realize that she started OnlyFans

when she's 18. I even had one girl tell me that she was promoting her OnlyFans on social media when she was 17 in the lead-up to, like, oh, I'm turning 18, that's when I'm dropping the only fans. I was just like, what the fuck? That sounds like it should be illegal

I'm assuming it's not But like an underage person Promoting their future Porn release I don't know It just sounded really creepy to me But I mean you know Every girl that I know for the most part Who does only fans or whatever

I don't see it as like a negative thing In their life for the most part Everybody I know seems pretty happy Even when they get like older You think? Yeah I mean I do know some porn star chicks Who end up resentful about what they went through, but I feel like

in large part they have the chicks who didn't really have control of their career. The Mia Khalifah's and Alana Rhodes, who felt like they had to do all this crazy-ass sex shit because I know so many girls now make shit loads of money on OnlyFans or whatever, and they're just posting like boob photos. Oh, wow.

Yeah, I mean, it's like, it's like not my problem. You know, if they're happy doing it, that's fine. I just, it's not my favorite thing, you know? It's just not. Aesthetically. You don't watch porn? No, I've never seen it. Well, okay. I was scarred once on Twitter

So I don't want to say I've never seen porn I was scrolling I was like ah what is the But outside of that I've never seen porn I see porn probably like 50 times During my early morning Twitter Scroll Yeah well I haven't been that like active on Twitter Until the last like month or two

But it's interesting to me that there are probably a lot of people Like I see Twitch streamers Looking at Twitter on stream And I'm like Wow that's amazing They're so confident that they're not going to see porn that they feel comfortable doing this.

I could never. I'm on conservative Twitter, so I feel like my Twitter's like more right. But that day, I was scarred. I was scarred for life. What did you see? What was going on? Were they sweating?

Was there oil? No, it was just like, they were like screwling. I don't know. They were scrilling. I don't know. I was like, no, actually, I'm sorry. I lied. I saw porn one other time

because when I was in college, I was in the dorm lobby. I forgot about this. And I told, I said this again, I was like, I've never seen porn. And this is what guys do. They'll be like, oh, I need to show you now. Why would I want to see that? Why would I want to sit on?

Because they think if they show you that that might get you in the mood to do what you're seeing on camera. Okay, I was not in the mood. I was like, ah. I was like, ah, my eyes, my eyes. But as a grown-up, sometimes you do, like, we do that. We're like, watch some porn. And then inevitably end up fucking. It's like almost impossible to watch people fuck and not end up fucking.

From my perspective. Well, I don't know. Do you feel like, okay, how many people have you slept with? Do you know this out? No. You ask everybody that. You don't say your own number? No, I don't ask everyone.

I don't think I've ever asked. No, I don't even ask body count. It's a single digit? No, I say it is a single digit. Okay. But, no, I don't even ask. I always say how many bodies is too many bodies or how many bodies so you become a hoe. The only time a girl has set her body count on live, I swear God.

I was like, okay, guys, what's your body count? And I was like, ha ha, kidding. You don't have to say that. This girl, this girl was like, oh, I'll tell you. Like I'm on the sexual positivity, da, da, da, da, da. And I was like, I was like, are you sure? And then she was like, yeah. And I was like, okay, go ahead.

It was like, it was a lot. It was like 30 something or 40. I don't remember. How old she? That's nothing. 20. Okay. She was like 27, 28, I think. Yeah, that's not. Okay.

But I was like, then she got mad and wanted me to take the stream down. But I'm like, yeah, but I was like, I didn't make you say anything. Yeah. I didn't make you like. And then she was like threatening to sue me and all this stuff. And I was just like, ma'am, I said, are you sure? Right. So that was the only time.

See, that's interesting because I feel like I would encourage most people to not put a hard number out there into the world. It's probably better. I think for most people it's advantageous to be sort of vague. about it. Yeah, well, I just, I feel like, they never believe me any, like, they wouldn't believe me anyway, so it's like, you see, dude say that all the time on your shit or wherever, whether it'll be like, you know, this is the number that I think that, that I would be comfortable with, but also I know that they're going to lie, so it's like, I know that if it's 10, then it's really 30 or whatever. Yeah, well, actually, I know, I know what men think about body count,

okay, I've actually interviewed the how many bodies is too many bodies, or would you rather have a girl that's taken 50 or or has $50,000 in credit card debt. Most guys say the debt, but I do, I do think if they, God, debt is such a turnoff. But, but so when it comes to body count, guys say 10, right? That's always the number like if I say how many bodies is too many bodies. The most common answer I get is 10. However, they mean 20 and this is what I mean. I'll push it because this is what I do. I do this guys and girls, like girls about income or whatever. And I'll be like, okay, but this girl, she's great, she's got this, but she's got 15. They're like, well, and I keep pushing it, and it seems like 20 is like the real number guys say.

But if they say 20 on the podcast, it's like embarrassing to them, like they would wife a girl with 20. This is just, and I'll see who they date because, you know, like a lot of the guests become regulars. Like, I see who they date outside the show. I'm like, I know that girl. I know what she was doing before she met you. That's not the number you said. All right, this is my thing is that I obviously am like more open-minded about this kind of stuff, especially in the porn world. You know, it's like there's infinite like super hot girls I know who are like the most high-value chicks in the industry.

And they've got like, you know, hundreds of bodies like different dudes that they fucked on camera, off-camera, whatever. And it's like totally nobody cares about it in the same way. But then at the same time, I will say that most of the time when I see a porn relationship not work out, it's due to some element of jealousy from, even if, the guy does porn, like he will inevitably get jealous of his girl working with other guys and it will become a fucking thing and it'll start. They'll become exclusive and then at some point she wants to work with other guys and it doesn't work out like that. I've seen that play out so many times. Yeah. So even the most open-minded sexually people, their relationships usually end up ending over the guy being territory about her vagina. I just, I can't imagine letting other guys rail your

chick is a great way to go. But I mean, this is. just you know i think that's playing the game on hard for sure if you can if you can go through that as a dude and not care because my girl doesn't fucking over the besides me and so it's like i don't have to live the life of sitting here interviewing you while knowing that my girl is taking a 10 inch long to the face which might be hard for me i don't know i'm not fucking superman i don't know if i could actually like be cool with that i do know some guys who are and i am kind of in awe of them yeah that's a different different world i don't know that's a different right yeah definitely but um okay so wait hold on pause that for a second i want to pull out uh my i don't literally pause it but i

want to pull out these fucking notes that i took earlier it's a perkin not doing live shows yeah i know right um okay so i wanted to ask what extent to what extent does your Christianity or your religious faith play into your views on relationships and everything? Oh, I don't even, I don't think I'm that religious. You don't? No, I mean, I have periods. I go in and out.

I grew up Catholic, so I did 12 years at Catholic school. And then I joined a Christian church right after college. Yeah, right after college and I did Bible study a lot for like two years. But I got a lot of things about the church that just like bothers me. I feel like feminism has infiltrated the church. So I have, like, my thoughts on church. I wouldn't say religion. I haven't been to church in, like, 20 years, but is that real?

Like, the average church, like, has, like, way more progressive stuff going on? I would say that they don't. Like, you're seeing gay flags in church. Right. Like, what? But if, I mean, let's be real, like, religion is kind of on the way out. Church is, like, religion is becoming less and less popular. I feel like they probably have to, like, lean into that if they want to continue

exist. Well, that's the thing. Like, they have to cater to women because women are the primary market for church. I think the church leaves women single because when I was in the church, like, when I was super into it right after college, they were like, you can only date in your church. And I was just like looking around. I'm like, what on earth? What the fuck? That's not like an average rule. They have to date within the church, right? Typically, like, you have to be, that's why they have the term equally yolked. Equally yoked? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, or they'll say you can, you can date other Christian churches. But the other problem is they all are like 70% women. roughly. If you look at the younger people that are in the church, they're mostly women.

And the guys are like kind of simpy, like a bit. So like I've heard guys say like the girls in church are worse than the girls outside of church. Like I would like to think that I'm respectful of everybody's religious beliefs and shit. But if you're a young dude and you're spending a lot of time in church, I mean, well, it's just where you really need this much fucking help to get through the day? Like I just don't understand. I mean, I just think they don't like I respect people. that are religious and that are really religious. And I feel like I could, like, I could be really religious. I just haven't really found, like, the right place, maybe. Like, I just feel like feminism has infiltrated the church. And, like, they encourage men to take unfair deals because it's like,

like, okay, when I went, was in Catholic school, I've always been me, right? Just opinionated, just like, you know, and they would always have these chastity speakers, which are basically, like, people that come to the church or the school, and they'll say, like, don't have sex until you're married. And it's always like a ran through girl with the guy that like waited and that's kind of an unfair deal because the guy has to wait to give his commitment to a girl that's already had sex. So it's like it's like what does he get out of the deal? Do you actually think that a guy or a guy or a girl waiting till they're married to have sex is a good idea? I think they're both virgins, yeah. I mean, that's what I can't name like the study off the top of my head.

But if you look at body count when it comes to girls, like the fewer partners they have, the more likely they are to be happy after a certain amount of time. It's like after 10 years. But the best outcomes are when both of them are virgins. I feel like you need to have sex to understand if you have good sexual chemistry. How would you know? By having sex. No, what I'm saying? If you're both virgins, how would you know?

I know. But then like you're just sort of, I mean, I think a woman getting into a relationship, a serious relationship, as serious as marriage without having a wide variety of experiences, you're just kind of. kind of asking, you're creating a ticking time bomb where she's going to at some point want to know what the fuck else is going on in life. And I've seen this over and over with people that I knew who got married when they were young, when they were virgins. And it's just inevitably like one or both people ends up whiling out or wanting to have some more experiences. For me, the reason why I'm able to be so comfortable and secure in my relationship is the fact that I fuck hundreds of people and I know exactly what's out there. And I don't feel tempted by any of it. Yeah, that is a dynamic

Rollo has talked about that where basically like if the girl gets too young like it's basically like the virgins of today aren't the virgins of yesterday because the virgins of today still have social media and can like hear things and see things and feel like they're missing out so yeah I would say that happens I can't think of a more full proof plan

for me being miserable than me like valuing like you know innocence so much that I end up wiping up somewhat like 19, 20 year old virgin who doesn't know anything about life who's going to fucking be looking at everything else out there as like so tantalizing and interesting.

It's like I feel way more comfortable with somebody who's been around the block that actually like knows what's out there. I've done meth. I need a girl's put some drugs up her nose, man. You know, I do think like attracts like. So, you know, yeah, yeah, that's fine. But okay, here's the thing. My level of jealousy with my girl is almost like non-existent.

Like there's almost nothing that she could do that would like, trigger my brain to be like pissed off because we just have that kind of connection and i know that she's been around rappers and she's been to the clubs and she's like done all this like shit that i've also done and i know that she doesn't feel tempted by that but i've all i've been in relationships with girls who like are in the club with you and then they're looking at the section with the rich dudes who got hell of bottles and everything and like yeah they're with you but you could kind of tell that they're looking at those dudes like if it was easy they would probably just go and be with those dudes.

Like, if they could sort of like bow out without you knowing and go do that, they would be happy to do that. With my girl, I don't have that feeling. I actually, like, don't think that she's tantalized by the bottles in the, in the club. So, I don't know. I feel like a lot of girls, like, that would be my main concern if I was dating somebody very young or very, like, inexperienced. I don't think there's one way to do it.

You know what I mean? Like, I think whatever works for someone works for them. But, I mean, I think by and large, men prefer girls that are more pure in general. Usually guys want a girl that's slept with less like partners than they have typically Right No, I can understand why But my brother's kind of a whore A whore

Yeah Really Well probably not compared to you He's probably an angel compared to you No offense Like No I do you But he

Like he's dating a girl that's a virgin Like yeah Really? Well I don't think she is a more I feel like if you're that slutty How do you even meet a virgin? I don't know It's weird

My brothers find like all the girls that the red like guys in the red pill like kind of say that they want my brothers. They're not red pill at all. They just are they've never really had trouble with girls. They just like find them. Like my other brother is dating a girl that went to culinary school for fun just to like cook for him. He didn't even ask. He didn't even care. He was like, oh, that's nice, sweetie.

And these guys can barely get their girls to cook for them at all. Right. She went to culinary school. My other brother is dating a virgin. He didn't even, he wasn't even really looking for one. He just like found her. But how important do you think that is? How's your cooking?

How's my cook? I'm a good cook. Okay. I will say, I've been learning. So recently, I've been learning to make a cake from scratch. I just learned Jalafrice the other day. So I would say one to ten, I'm like a six. I'll give myself a six.

Because me and my group chat with like 20 dudes, we're all having this conversation this morning because there's this porn star girl I know, and she posts on her story like cooking, like tons of shit. She cooked this whole big fucking beast. And the caption was like, you know, this is my love language or whatever for her boyfriend or whatever. and I sent it to the group chat and I was like being honest like how attractive do you find this girl being able to cook? Because for me in my head, and now this is all like hypothetical because obviously I'm not going to go fucking holler at this chick. But the cooking thing actually like really kind of in my brain soothes some of my concern that she might be a psychopath.

Like the cooking thing, just knowing that she could like be focused on her domestic duties in the crib for like six hours to cook this. I mean, I know a lot of chicks who don't have that in them. That realistically, they're so out of control that they're going to go find cocaine instead of within that six-hour period. Cocaine? You live in fucking London. You're like you're totally naive to Coke. Everyone in England is doing ketamine and cocaine right now. 99% of the population, the queen even.

My experience with coke in life. One time on New Year's when I was 21. Oh, let's go. Someone offered me Coke at a bar. And I was like, what's what? I also had friends in Chicago that worked in finance that I know did Coke a lot. That's all I know about Coke. So you're like one time someone offered it to me.

Like, you didn't even do it. I just got offered it. No. Well, this was shocking to me. I was like, oh my God. Yeah. I didn't even know people did Coke. I don't know.

But you live in England. Everybody does Coke in England. Like, it's bad. Okay. Okay. Okay, now, maybe your friends do Coke. Everybody I ever met out there. Okay.

But I play with, like, I know athletes mostly. I think a drug tester. You get drug tested? No. You should definitely do Coke then. No, like, there. You got a pass. No, we did in college, but their, like, drugs just, I don't, I don't know.

I've never asked. There might be people that do it. I just don't think, like, they would offer it to me anyway. Because I don't even, I don't even really drink. So it's like, you're going to offer me. Like you can't get me to take a shop, but you're going to give me Coke. What's your observation? Oh, you don't even drink.

Yeah, that's probably a good sign. No, no, no. Well, I decided I'm going to do it once a year. Drink. Yeah, once a year. What, just enough to remind yourself, how much you hate it? Yeah. Because I hate it.

Like, if I did it once a year, it would be a great reminder of like, oh, that's why you don't like that. Yeah. No, I used to drink, but I stopped a couple years ago. Right. But then I was like, maybe I'll do it once a year. Right. I haven't decided. I've been going back and forth on this.

My thing is like, I stopped like getting drunk maybe like four or five years ago, but I'll still have like a drink. Yeah. Or a glass of wine. That's fine. Yeah. Maybe that can be like my once a year.

We can do it on no jumper. I love that idea. What's your observation about the women that you grew up around on average versus the women in England? Like what's your impression on the main difference? How the women, um, I would say the women in England are a bit more, like they're better dressed and they're more proper. when it comes to relationships

I think England is so similar to the U.S. Like it's honestly the same The average age of first marriage Like they get married a little later up there It's like 31 where it's like 27-28 here Interesting But it's it's the same From my perspective the women are way less promiscuous

In England and Australia And I know that's a massive generalization But girls in America are hoes on average There's like a lot of sluttery going on And I remember one time me and my girl went to Australia for like two weeks and we had it in our head the whole time because we were like doing these music festival appearances

or whatever we had it in our head the whole time that we were going to meet this hot Australian chick and hook up with her. And literally every hot Australian chick we met had a boyfriend by her side which shout out to them because they all seemed very happy and secure but it just it just seemed like in Australia it was like

so much more normal to just be in relationships. Did you have that same experience in England? Yeah I would say on average. Not really. I've had a lot of single people in my show. Really? That's what you're drawing them in. That's true.

Like that's what I'd say. Most people I've met are through my show. I feel like there's less of a stigma in America about having a high body count than there is in England. Whereas in England, I would say it's probably a bigger deal. The girls are quieter about it, I think, than in America. So I would agree with you. Like, because there will be girls, again, like I meet people through the show.

Like, they'll come on the show and they'll talk and, like, say one thing. But then, oh, my God, this one girl. I'm thinking of a story off the top of my head. This girl comes on the show. And she was beautiful. This is like probably one of the prettiest girls in but of my show, the whole show. I'm done with the bad guys. Like I'm healing, you know, healing, whatever.

And she was just talking all this talk, how she doesn't like do anything, like, blah, blah, blah. After the show, my recruiter brought one of his friends to, like, watch. And he literally took her home after the show. And I'm just like, so I feel like girls in England, like kind of like taught, like, where like the girls in America are a little more open. But let's be real, it's very easy for a person to be promiscuous without informing the world about it. Like you could, you could very easily have had sex with 60 people and just not tell me and not really let on. Like it would be the easiest fucking thing in the world for you to let on, for you to like keep that ruse going, wouldn't it?

Me too. Like if I told you I had sex with five girls, I mean, I don't know. I felt like maybe the tattoo is kind of like give it away that it just looks like I have more life experience. Also, why are you 39? Also, why are you a porn star? But, I mean, it's just like a very easy thing to lie about, I feel like. You could do your sneaky shit.

And everyone knows that. That's why we don't like really believe girls' numbers. I just feel like the truth comes. I'm just a big believer in the truth comes out eventually. If you had sex with 60 people, six, like that's so many people. Someone's going to know someone. No, but the world is huge. I'm a big believer in being a good liar.

Like just keeping your shit close to your chest. And like I, like some of the dudes that I've had so much respect for in my life were dudes who everyone thought that they were like not a slut. And then once I really got to know them, I started to realize that they were fucking all the time. And they just actually did an immaculate job of not letting their friends know. They weren't bringing girls to the bar to meet their homies or whatever because I was the total opposite. I was like literally going to the bar with a different chick every night of the week. I didn't give a fuck. All my friends can meet her.

I'm never going to see her again. It is what it is. You know, like, it was just, I was terrible at keeping my shit on the deal. Yeah, but again, then you got to know him and you find out. Like, that's what I'm saying. Eventually, like, someone's going to talk. Like, I'm not saying, like, sure. You can do it where, like, people that are two or three, like, that don't know you that well,

like, we'll never know. But I just think eventually something's going to come up, like something. Unless you're a real smooth criminal. Maybe. But I'm just a big believer in the truth comes. out eventually. You'll even see celebrities. It'll be like 20 years later and someone will say something like, oh, I hooked up with her when she was younger.

Right. So I just, I feel like the truth comes out eventually. It can. But if you're really, if you're really with your shit. But that's why you get prostitutes because then they're not going to tell nobody, right? Yeah, I would. In theory. Yeah. And then if you tell, if you actually tell nobody, but I feel like you always

tell someone, like people usually tell someone. What would you say to, like, do you think that young men should go to prostitutes? if they just want to get it out of their system. Oh gosh, this is a good question. I have mixed feelings because I don't really like the idea of that. But I also feel like it's kind of the way the world's always been. So it's like that's the world's oldest profession.

Like someone's kind of got to do it. Right. You know, it couldn't be me. But I wouldn't want someone I love to do it. But it's like what other solution do you have for the one out of three months under 30 that virgins or haven't had sex in the past year. I just sometimes feel like if you're a young dude and you had the opportunity to do it, which I don't think I did when I was a kid.

I would have had no idea where the fourth of a prostitute in New Hampshire when I was growing up. But I'm just saying like if the idea of sex is so nerve-wracking and oppressive to you in your head, you could just, you know, pay somebody for their time. And actually, this is what like the sex worker community would tell you. It's like, you know, you should. Like, that's what they're kind of there for is, like, for you to be able to pay somebody for their time to have this experience so that you can kind of,

demystify it. I don't think it's the worst idea, but I also feel like a guy making that a part of their life on any sort of regular basis is basically like suicide for your chance of being successful at any point in your life. Yeah, I agree with what you just said. I agree. It's just like humiliating. It's like it might be cool for like a one-off, but you definitely shouldn't make this part of your life. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would always say maybe go the other routes first, but I just have a hard time. I just have a hard time encouraging prostitution. I don't know. I have a friend who's like 21 and he just lost his virginity. So it's like a little late, but he's like a mega nerd.

And he's like, he makes good money and he's like doing really well for himself, but he's a fucking nerd. So like took him a little later into life or whatever. And we had had that conversation where I was like, you know, like before he lost his virginity where I was like, you know, maybe you should just get a hooker. Like maybe that would be good for you to just like kind of get it over with like that. And then he told me the story that I thought was really fascinating, right? So he's hanging out with this girl and they blatantly kind of have a vibe where she,

She likes him, he likes her, whatever. And they're sleeping in like a hotel room together, right? But like, it's because they're both at this event. And it's not like, oh, we're going to sleep in the same bed. And before they went to bed, she said to him, she goes, hey, I just want to let you know that, you know, we can sleep in the bed and stuff, but I don't want to have sex. And he's just like, oh, that's cool. Like, that's totally cool. And so he just goes to bed in the bed, like facing away from her, pulls the covers up and just goes to sleep.

And then she wakes up in the next morning. and she's acting kind of weird. And eventually he says like, hey, like, did I do something? Like, what's wrong? And she was like, well, I didn't want you to like not do anything to me. And I told him, I'm like, yeah, bro. I'm like, she didn't want you to, she wanted you to try to fuck her. She just wanted to, like, be able to call her own shots there.

And if she didn't want to fuck, she wanted to be able to say, okay, like, I don't want to do this. I was like, she definitely wanted you to, like, kiss her or, like, try something for sure. And then he ended up losing Virginia's her, so. Oh, I guess. Did they date or anything? Oh. Oh. Okay.

And I told them, I'm like, don't get hung up on her. You know? Like, if she's dope, for sure. But I was like, you really, you'd probably be so much better off, like, just meeting more girls rather than, like, focusing in on this first experience you've had. I don't know. Do you agree with that? Or do you think you should really chase this one? No.

I mean, girls are usually repulsed by guys that chase them. I think we prefer to chase. Yeah, that's true. But it must be weird. It's weird for him, though, because the girl almost certainly, like, knows that he's not exactly drowning in pussy. Does she? I would assume. Oh, I don't know your friend.

I don't know what he comes off as. He's not coming off as, like, Mr. Big dick-swangin guy. Would you go on a date with Nick Fuentes? Nick, is that the... That's the guy that was with Kanye, right? You don't have much about him? I don't know a ton about him. Yeah, he's cute.

I feel like you guys would get along. Maybe. Similar ideas. No, but somebody wanted me to ask that. We're trying to find, like, the right woman for him. But he needs, like, a white Christian woman. He's made that clear. Yeah, I'm probably not Christian enough.

No? No, I'm like. What about for, like, the right guy? I'll be back in church. Yeah. I mean, realistically, I don't know how much Nick is in church at this time. I'll be like, I didn't even know feminism infiltrated the church. That was crazy.

I was just talking nonsense back then. Yeah, definitely. So, have you seen this girl Carmen Karma that's been making the podcast rounds? She's the one who went viral because she said that she, like, let some dudes nut in her, and then she had her husband, like, eat her out and she didn't tell them, I think. Oh, my gosh. That was so gross. Yeah.

That was so gross. I've fucked her a bunch of times on camera with my girl. They're like really good friends. Okay. Multiple layers of reaction there. Was it good? Yeah, she's dope. You got a mean throat game, actually.

And I don't say that lightly. But she has a stupid neck, yeah. Wow. Yeah, the boyfriend thing, I thought, I feel like that's scared a lot of guys. of her yeah no but she's like married she's like committed relationship with this dude oh yeah and he's down he don't mind then she's like off banging dudes on camera or anything he's on board for it oh wow yeah i hope that goes well i mean honestly yeah they've been together for a long time but so you don't approve of that dynamic though to me like smuggling someone

else's ejaculate into like some into your husband's mouth that does seem like a line really is crossed there um um Yeah, I mean, it's like at the end of the day, I just don't really care what other people do. Like, at the end of the day, it's not really my problem. But, yeah, I think if you got, she like went back to her ex, right? And he like nutted in her and then she got eight out by the last. I don't know, yeah, if it was her ex or if it was her current dude. Oh, okay, whoever.

And then she got ate out by another guy? No, I think the one that she was dating was the one who ate out. Who ate her ex. Yeah. Yeah, that's a violation. That's a violation In every walk of life That would be considered wildly inappropriate

Except maybe in the porn world Even like Oh my God I'm thinking like If a dude Like screwed another girl before Like it's like he didn't even shower Like shower ew

Yeah Because in retrospect That disgust me about myself Is that I had many nights Where I would like leave the club With one girl And then she would leave And then I would have another girl come over

And there was no sort of sanitation Or anything going on in between Like condoms at least? No. Yeah. I was living reckless, you know. Sorry, this is like... It's this thing that they call the 22 mentality.

What is that? Just being a real sloth-like psychopath. Did you catch anything? No. Well, that's... No. Never? 600?

No, but I've only caught stuff since I've been in a relationship in porn. Oh. Pretty much. Oh, wow. Where you get tested like all the fucking time. I had never been tested before this, but actually, but I only got burnt one time by like a famous born star and then I got burnt one other time by like a random prostitute that I was like on Helicoke and I basically like just ended up hooking up with her at a party with my girl and I that I would never do that now because she wasn't tested or anything. Oh wow. Was it anything like like bad?

No, just like Clementia, you just get a shot in the ass. It's fine. You just get a shot in the ass? Yeah, just give you a shot. You're done. because people laugh when I'm like oh I would way rather get an STD than get like a cold but it's it's nothing it's like you know you I mean it does suck

you like you can't really have sex for like a week I have a cold right now you should get a SED you love it you know what so you're heavy on the pay gap yeah yeah and not fucking with it I'm on board I just think I'm just so tired

I just really I grew up in a family You just don't have excuses. Like in the Davis's, in the Davis family, you work hard, okay? Man or woman? My dad just always preach, you work hard, you do something you're passionate about. My dad would tell me, I don't care if you're selling toothpicks from the side of the road. You can do something you're passionate about and work hard at it. You want to start a family, like, whatever it is, right?

And I'm just so tired of these girls blaming their gender on why you didn't succeed. You're probably lazy, Rebecca. You're probably just lazy. I feel like, yeah, because, I mean, the reality is, is that, like, I've had people work for me who just like asked for raises all the fucking time, you know, like every six months, every year. Whenever, whenever there's like some significant thing added to the list of work that they're doing, they're asking for raises. And really from my experience, a lot of times it's the women who are more diligent about that. And whereas the dudes are more likely to just sort of not bring it up as much, which is kind of weird.

But I mean, in general, it's like you get paid what you fucking fight to get paid. And if they're trying to not pay you and you like you have to fight for it the same way the dudes have to fight for it And I just like the idea that that we should feel bad for women getting paid less like if it's on some kind of systematic level Then sure fine, but it just clearly doesn't seem to be that Do you care if your producer is a man or a woman? No And that's the point. Nobody cares.

Why would anyone care? It's about how you do the job. Yeah, and that's the thing. I'm like, why do you guys think you're so special that people care about your job? gender. Like, if anything, I think the world is nicer to you when you're a young, attractive female. Massively. Yeah, and I'm like, you're going to be 50 one day and you're going to wish people treated you the way they did when they were 22. I've heard, like, older women talk about this. Right. Like, one day you just become invisible. Many times in my life, I've, like, been around

a woman who, whatever, I'd seen her on Instagram, or I had, like, you know, been watching her online in some capacity, whatever, famous, super hot, like out of this world hot, like a 10 or a 9 or whatever and then I really like I'm around them and I have a little bit of a conversation with them and I realize you are one of the dumbest people I've ever met and you've been allowed to wallow in this this muck of ignorance because nobody gives a fuck enough to like really question you or challenge you because you're so beautiful that nobody really wants to rock the boat nobody wants to like you know tell you that your ideas don't make any fucking sense and even myself I also felt that way where it's like, well, if I don't correct her on this obviously stupid thing that she said,

maybe it'll be a little bit more likely that she'll have sex with me in the future. And a lot of, like, that's how every dude's brain fucking works. And, you know, sometimes you see the same thing when you'll, I don't watch sports, but randomly, I'll just like catch like a fucking basketball post game thing. And I'll just be listening to some of these dudes. And I'll be like, oh, okay, you're a fucking retard. Like, you're just, like, you're just hella good at basketball. So they, like, put you out of there.

And you're famous as fuck. but like you have like the brain of a child because you never had like any kind of reason to go past that like it wouldn't really have benefited you that much you're good at one thing and you're bad at everything else and that's fine yeah I mean isn't that why a bunch of them go broke after they get out of the NBA right yeah because it's financial literacy isn't part of the fucking program yeah yeah yeah I just I just don't like lazy I don't like lazy people and I don't like stupid people I don't like stupid people man or women I just yeah do you ever get bored with the content? How do you keep it spicy? How do you keep it interesting? Recently, I've been so bored. I was so excited after. Yeah, I've been so bored recently. I mean, again, I've only been doing the show for a year. So I feel like, I feel like the audience might think I'm soft. But I've been doing it four days a week for a year, basically. And so my next thing that I want to do is I want to progress the conversation to the streets. So I was thinking about going down in the number of shows I do per week and kind of having the

same conversations we have in the studio, but like going outside and having them. Like, for example, I want to interview single childless women over the age of 50 and ask them if they regretted it or if they're happy with their decision because we always talk about how, like, women in general aren't happy with families. And I think, like, a lot of times, this is just my guess of what I'm going to find. Is that like girls in their 30s and 40s will be like, oh, it's okay, like, because they still kind of have their looks a bit. But the girls where their looks have gone, which is like 50s and 60s, I think those,

women will actually be genuinely sad that they didn't have a family in kids. Because I think that the second half of your life is like pretty lonely, like, you know, from 40 to 80 if you don't have a family. And, you know, it's interesting. My grandma, she's probably going to like pass away in the next six months because she's just pretty sick. I asked her, I was like, do you have any regrets in life, you know, because like, I don't know if I'm going to see her. Again, like next time I come back to the U.S., like I don't know much longer she has. And she told me that she wish, her only regret is she wished she had more kids and she had nine. She said she wished you had 12.

Wow. No, yeah, for sure. Like, when I was 37 or 36, I just started to, like, realize that, like, you know, I stopped partying, stop drinking, stopped going out, stopped, like, screwing around of my girl or whatever. And at a certain point, I just kind of started to realize, like, me and you are just watching too much Netflix. And, like, this is going to be the rest of our life if we don't start a family.

Like, this is just, like, look how stupid and meaningless our existences. And now a lot of times I'll look through Netflix and I'll think, we would have watched every single season of this particular reality show right here if we didn't have a kid and instead we had a kid and it's just like so much more meaning you know but like i know infinite fucking people who basically like have taken the having children thing and replaced it with basically just being pop culture fanatics or like i don't know like in some cases like partying and like drinking and going out or whatever but in many more cases just sort of being this like content consumer who just you just just sits in front of the fucking TV every night. Yeah, and I think if someone wants to do that, it's fine. I just think we should be honest about the results. And that's what I'd really like to do in the next phase of content is go to, like, nursing homes, old people's homes, or even interview, like, heavier people and, like,

why is your weight gotten out of control? Do you ever think about changing that? And, like, the conversations we have about, like, the stuff in the studio onto the streets. Yeah. You're anti the fatphobic movement. Well, are we, is there short man phobic? I'm just tired. Some of you all weren't bullied as children.

Right. My brothers would never get away with me thinking I was a tent. Oh my God. Austin, Adam, they would tell me so quick. Right. They would tell me so quick. What's holding you back from being a 10, do you think? What do you need?

To be a 10. You got a BBL coming? No. It would be a good arc. It'd be good for the content. No. I mean, what's holding me back from being at 10? I just feel like I don't have like a symmetrical enough face to be a 10.

Really? Yeah, I mean, if I did, I'd have a modeling contract. That's okay. I guess I was said about myself. Yeah. Definitely I've never felt like there was any number of people who were like into me for my looks so much. Maybe as I get older, that's the weird thing is as you start to become like rich and well-known, people start acting like you're attractive. And I'm like, there's no way that you're going to just pull the fucking wool over my eyes and convince me that I was good looking all these years.

Nobody ever treated me that way. Really? You're like six, what, four? Yeah, but you're, you have like nice eyes. I don't know. Yeah, nice eyes. I got a lot of that. A lot of fat chicks telling me I had nice eyes my whole life.

I don't know. I don't know if I trusted them. But those were actually the chicks who were into me so I could see it. Yeah. I don't know. I just think if I was a 10, I would have modeling contracts. I have never been offered a modeling contract. So I don't think I'm ugly by any means.

I just don't think I'm a 10. When I was young in New York City, I had like a friend, tall, light-skinned black dude like 6-6 or some shit and he would stay getting offered modeling contracts around me like all the time and nobody ever offered it to me so

you're like what about me I can do it because I had never thought about being a model my whole life and then all of a sudden he's getting offered this multiple times in front of me and I did start to kind of feel like shit yeah I don't

I'm trying to think of my I have one friend who I think she used to model but then she got too fat. You want to know, this puts it on the perspective. One time there was these two girls I met when I was living in New York, you know, early 20s, and one of them was super pretty,

and one of them was super ugly. Like, no question about it. Like, the ugly one had, like, the biggest fucking nose you've ever seen, like, this massive hanger. She was just, I used to look at her and just think, like, how have you not got a nose job? Like, it's so clearly the thing that would improve your life the most, whatever.

But one time I'm on the train with both of them And I had met them because of the ugly one right The ugly one hit me up on my space And then somehow I end up meeting her and her friend And her friend's super fucking hot And I just blatantly end up hitting on the hot one In front of her and whatever And then we're all on the train together

And this like 60 year old lady Just goes to the ugly one She just goes Your friend is so beautiful And the fucking girl just burst into tears And just start sobbing her fucking eyes out on the train right in front of me. And in that moment, it's never been more clear to me, like, just how much privilege

a hot chick has and, like, just how charmed your life is going to be as a result of having been born with, like, a symmetrical face and a nice size nose or whatever the fuck it was. Yeah, I have a friend like that, like, she's just like, and I'm like, when she walks out, I'm like, I have never seen someone get this much male attention in my life. Oh, my God. I didn't realize, because she has really big boobs, too. I'm like, wow. That goes a long way.

Yeah. Yeah, because most of my friends, like, have, like, a volleyball body. Like, so it's just, like, usually, like, kind of flat chest and big butt. Like, that's just how we're built usually. But, I don't know. She, yeah, when we go somewhere, like, she has guys go up to her, like, all the time. And I'm like, oh, my God, I have never been around someone that gets this much attention. But does that make you feel bad about yourself or you just sort of own it?

No, not really. I mean, I think when I was younger, it probably would have. But now it's, like, you know what's funny? I saw in 1950s dating advice And it was like, stay around a hot friend Because you could get their left out But that says a lot Like at that time period

Like women were expected to feel lucky To have one guy who wanted to take care of them Yeah, so it's like if a hot guy goes up to her Like maybe he'll have a friend, I don't know So I don't really yeah And most of the guys that like go up to her I don't know like Actually never mind

But when I was younger I felt like I was way more down for like quantity than quality, which traditionally, you know, quality over quantity. That's advice a lot of people would give you. And when I look back in my life, I'm like, why were you always so down to take the fat home girl? Yeah, because you're a guy. That's like your biological predisposition to stuff as many kids as possible. Where like girls, it's quality over quality. And I figured like nobody's going to know.

I'll be able to keep this low key. You know? Did you ever? Did you ever? So you must have literally not known the names of the girls you were like sleeping with. I have a list up to like 300. Oh, wow. What a gentleman.

A Google Doc, yes. A gentleman and a scholar. No, I kept the list my whole life so I can go back to it. But yeah, for sure there's going to be a ton of names on the list that I'm just like. And a lot of them too are like vague descriptions. It'll be like Boston, blonde girl in the woods. Wow. Because it's just some chick I met at the bar and we went in the woods.

Yeah. It's pretty gross. There's a few on there like that that would be really confusing. But then I stopped keeping track once we started doing it on camera, but I could theoretically go through the list and compile a full list. Now? I could. I could go through social media or whatever and figure out all of them.

But it would be a lot. Good memory. There's no memory. I would have it just go through social media and look through it. Yeah, but you connected with all of them on social media? No, but I posted it probably at some point. Or if I look through my girls. My girl could put the list together.

Oh, okay. You know. You put it on Patreon. Just the list. Nobody wants to see that. It's so terrible. All right, so what else do you have in the works or what are you planning in terms of your content and everything? Oh, and before that, I want to ask, are you just, like, totally fuck business-wise?

Because I saw you were, like, age-restricted by the time they undertake episode already. Went live. No, I think I broke even on that video. Because you made some money before they did that? Yeah. Okay. So I think I broke even. Maybe I made a little bit, but it's basically with, because there is a sponsorship.

Right. So, yeah. Yeah. So. But did they get you a lot? No. Really? That was like one of them.

I mean, sometimes, but for the most part, no, they would get me more when I did rap reactions. Oh, that was hell. That was like every video demonetized. Really? Yeah. Just because it was like. violent shit or what um it was like the music companies oh well that's like copyright yeah yeah so i like i got like 20 000 subscribers in a day or 10 000 and um i like i just stopped doing it because

i like would make no money on the videos yeah but that's a wild side of youtube where the of like reaction channels with millions of views of like people reacting the music and they're not making money on any of the videos but then they find other ways to make money i i never did i just was like, yeah, F this. I would have a different route. I feel you. But, all right, so new ideas for the content, or where's it going from here? Oh, I just started wife school.

So it's like basically me learning things to, like, be more traditional pretty much. So the first episode was helping me pick out better clothes a little bit. And the second one is me learning how to make a cake from scratch and how, what did I cook? it was like stir fry or something so it's like the second episode is cooking next episode um what are we going to do for episode three i don't even remember oh they wanted me to go on dates with guys but get feedback from the guys like they're not even going to be on camera or like film the date or anything but like just talk to the guys and be like what did you think of pearl so um i could know like if i'm being feminine i guess on dates if you went on dates with like a hundred

guys do you feel like what what percentage of them would you like be interested in a second date oh gosh well i mean one of the prerequisites for the date just like um like like randomly or are they like because because she like that's a good point because she'll pick him out and be like do you think like he's cute yeah there's got to be some degree of selection because if you're bringing me some like 50 year old lady i'm just going to be like no yeah i mean i don't i don't know if i'm even going to do that episode we'll see um i don't know if you find love on the internet what could be better than that for the world to see yeah I don't know we'll see

for sure but that was an idea we had and then I was gonna do I'm gonna go to this girl in Florida where she lives like so oh my gosh I couldn't live like that like she's crazy traditional like she like does her laundry by hand but I'm gonna like live like her for a week

and see how it goes nice yeah is that something you aspire to though to be so traditional that you're doing laundry by hand it seems like a massive waste of time No, I won't be that true.

No, I mean, I just, it's more just about the whole point of the series is to listen to what men want and try to be more of what men want. So that's, that's the whole point. Is it like to do laundry by hand? No. But like sometimes you learn like how to make something like, I don't know. I didn't realize like how much men value cooking. And even like I made my dad like a cake from scratch. He just, he like thought it was the sweetest thing.

Throughout my life, very few girls ever cooked for me. And for sure whenever they did, I felt. like it was usually a pretty genuine sign of them, like, wanting to be with me. And that definitely, like, with my girl, the first time she cooked for me was around the same time that I sort of started to, like, realize, like, oh, she loves you. Like, she really, like, wants the best for you and she'll do anything for you. And for sure, like, I mean, on the most basic biological level, I feel like cooking for somebody is just kind of, like, providing for them, like, and especially if it's decent, you know?

Yeah. For me, I can't cook. I'm ordering postmates. I'll make you eggs in the morning if you want. That's about all I got going for me. Yeah, yeah. But that's the whole point of wife school. And, like, she's also going to talk about just, like, the mentality that you should have as a wife.

So, like, why are you guys looking for problems? Like, he might be cheating. He might not. But, like, why are you guys, like, literally looking for problems? And just, like, stuff like that when it talks more about, I'm, like, kind of butchering it. But she was just telling me about it. But she, like, literally trains, like, women to be wives. And, like, managing.

Because a lot of times girls want a guy that makes a lot of money because they want a lifestyle, but they don't know how to be, like, frugal. And she was saying that she could raise kids on like 500 bucks a month or less. I heard Andrew Tates said that too. And I was like, hey, what? Well, think about it. Like, what do you need? You need food.

Private school. Okay, but that's a lifestyle choice. Yeah. Yeah. So that like goes back to like. But even just like basic shit, I feel like a kid is going to cost way more than that. Yeah. I mean, if you want it to.

If you want it to. But I don't want to give my kid a fucking Somalian upbringing here in Beverly Hills. Yeah, I mean, that's fine. The cost to raise a kid out here, like average kid, like, even if you're not, like, on some rich shit at all. Like, I don't know. Yeah. No, I mean, I agree, like, with that it, I mean, if you want your kid to live a certain type of lifestyle, you absolutely have to make a certain amount of money. But the, but the truth is that every girl can't get a guy that's that rich, so you have to figure out a way to make it work.

You got to get BBO? What? Not you, but, like, in general. That seems to be the plan for most of these girls. When I go to the club in Miami, I'm like, these bitches just get BB. yells and just stand around and just hope some dude's going to be hyped on him it's like the weirdest most transparent fucking dynamic on earth well you know it must work if they're doing it yeah like to some extent i mean maybe it's just attention and not like getting an actual ring but

but attention is step one yeah you got to get some attention before there could be any chance of that right yeah i guess i guess that's true i mean like as much as women like make their faces look weird and like do all the whatever. All the world has changed. Yeah, but like, there's a part of me that always is thinking, like, well, there's a reason they're doing it. Like, I don't think girls would do it at all if, like, like, they weren't getting sexual attention from it.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, both sides lie about that shit. Like, girls get lip fillers. And then guys say, I don't care about lip fillers, but then every fucking girl knows that they get more attention with lip fillers. Yeah. And guys say, we don't like makeup.

And then every girl knows that they're going to basically be ignored by dudes if they don't more makeup to the club. Yeah. Dude's just certain denial about what they're actually into. If a dude tells me I don't like makeup on the podcast, I just like laugh in their face because it's like, you're just lying to me. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I do think like men in general prefer more, maybe I'm biased, but I think they prefer more natural look for like long term. But see, this is the thing is that, all right,

I had a friend who was a bartender at a, at this bar, right? And I'm talking to him. And he was on steroids. at one point and put on like 40 pounds of muscle or whatever. And I was under the impression, because I've been actually believing women my whole life

that women weren't into that kind of thing. And I'm like, so when you were super fucking gigantic, did you get like less attention from girls? He's like, what? He's like, bro, it's like I had a fucking sign on my forehead saying suck my dick because every single girl that would look at me. You know, if it like, and I'm sure you probably

are not super attracted to like a guy that's like massive steroid looking ass dude, right? I would assume you as an ass average woman. You're probably, but at the end of the day, those dudes are getting attention in a way where that, even if a small percentage of those women convert into sex partners, those dudes are getting so much more sex as a result of looking like this total freak than a normal guy, even though a normal woman would tell you that she wants a normal guy.

Well, girls, we also don't know what we want. They actually, they actually say that women prefer fat guys with muscles over skinny guys. Because I think it boils down to protection. If the dude's that big, you think he can protect you. Fighters will say it's not all about that. I mean, look, I don't. I'm just saying what it looks like as a girl. I don't mean a lot of women who say, like, I need a guy with really, really low body fat percentage.

But at the same time, all the guys I know who have, like, chiseled fucking jaw lines and ripped abs and stuff are drowning in pussy. Because if they take their fucking shirt off and take a photo and put it on Instagram, their DMs are going to fill up with chicks. that just grabs attention, you know? Well, I mean, I would argue that men have worse beauty standards than women. Like, they always talk about like women have these high beauty standards, blah, blah, blah. It's like men actually have higher beauty standards. I mean, women swipe right on dating apps 5% of the time. And you could argue, oh, well, that's superficial.

Okay, let's quadruple it. Let's make it 20% of the time. And you could even ask women. You could ask any women, because I've done this many times in my life, it'd be like, what percentage of guys do you think that you would want to sleep, with or date or whatever. And they say low numbers. They'll say 10%, you know, like they're honest about that.

That the vast majority of guys consider the vast majority of women acceptable sex partners and the vast majority of women consider an incredibly small percentage of guys, acceptable sex partners. Yeah. And even if you make it like relationship partners, like women find 80% of men as unattractive, 80%. So it's like, are those 80% of men going to be that picky? Or you make 50% like that picky?

Men swipe right, 45, 50% of the time on dating apps? So it's like who has the higher beauty standards? Men are women. Men easily. You know, think about this. Like, thinking about how much a guy's body 5% really matters is that picture two different scenarios. You're going to put a fat guy on the cover of a magazine or you're going to put a guy

with like a jacked guy with like fucking washboard six pack abs on the cover of the magazine. This is what they're going to do for the guy's fat if they put him in the cover of the magazine because I've been this guy before, not on the magazine cover, but like doing like a photo shoot. They put you in a bunch of designer clothes. they'll put designer on you, they put sunglasses on you, they'll fucking like put some alcohol in the shot or like some smoke or whatever, basically like whatever they can do to distract the viewer from what you actually look like. But then if you're like in great shape, they're just going to have you stand there. And that's it. And they're not going to have any fucking props

or whatever because you don't need it. And it's like as a guy though, to like to register as physically attractive as a guy is incredibly rare and difficult. Like it's just like what percentage of guys are walking around in super sick shape. It's just like five, 10%, maybe at most. I think 80% of Americans are overweight. It's like 70 or, I think it's like 80% of women's 70% of them.

So even right there we're working with like 20% of the dudes might be in good shape. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know. I feel like the reason we have like this, this group of men that like are not in good shape or like lazy. You know what I'm saying?

Like the, They call them like the, what did they say? Like the lack of masculinity in men today, basically. I think it's like women's fault, to be honest. Because it's like men are just like, the juice ain't worth the squeeze anymore. What am I doing all this for? This is not even worth it to try.

Yeah. I'm glad I didn't get that idea into my head as a young guy. Like the notion that like, well, getting pussy is really hard. So maybe you should just say fuck it and just give up. Yeah. I'm glad I never had that cross my mind. I don't think you should. But again, it's just like, I mean, I think like women have changed.

changed more today than men. But it says a lot about the lack of self-control of a young man because when I think about it, I knew even as a young dude that being in really, really good shape was probably the best thing that I could do to improve my chances of getting girls that were like more attractive than me or more attractive than where I was at right then. And I still didn't do it. I still never got in like sick shape because I was just lazy and fucking self-absorbed and just like didn't have the discipline, I guess, you know?

And when I think about it now, when I'm like super hardcore. on the diet weight loss grind or whatever. I'm just like, this would have been so much more advantageous if you did this at like 21 instead of 39. You wouldn't have had to screw so many fat checks. Yeah, but I'm kind of glad I took some of those lumps, you know? But, like, I remember one time, like, 2012, when, like, the iPhone camera first started to get good,

that, like, I was drunk as fuck in the club and just made out this fucking super fat Mexican girl. And then, like, I think, like, went back and got a blowjob from her or whatever. but one of my friends filmed me and sent it to the group chat and that was the first time that I ever had like my my drunken bar antics exposed to all my friends and that's what I realized like you should probably you can't keep doing this that was your rock bottom well just the realization

because that was like social media step one because like if there's no video it doesn't matter yeah nobody cares if somebody's like oh adam made out of some ugly girl it's like whatever yeah but as soon as there's a video is it still out there I mean nobody would even care. They can pay money. It could be on Patreon. Go on this Patreon. You wouldn't even believe it was me. It was so pixelated in comparison to these days probably. All right. I got a Pee. I appreciate you coming on the show for sure. And what's the channel? Pearly Things if they want to tune in? Just pearly things. That. That way. Search it up. Appreciate you. Thanks for having me. Yeah, for sure. No Jumber. Coolest podcast on World

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