No Jumper - K-BOY on Being Shot 4 Times, Confronting The Game, Jay Rock Not Letting Him in The Club & More

Episode Date: November 26, 2022

Kboy talks about his rise, losing his brother, focusing on music, learning from Nipsey, congratulating T-Rell and AD on their podcasts ventures, and more! ------ 00:00 Intro 0:46 - Almost getting at ...T-Rell for being late 2:20 - Doing his thing with music around Jay Rock, Nipsey 3:40 - Being s__ 4 times while parked in front of his apartment 5:50 - Taking 2 yrs to learn how to walk again while watching his peers blow up 16:38 - Not being welcoming to new people coming around after the incident 21:15 - First time being around b___ and not beefing 25:02 - Meeting Game, approaching him in the bathroom 27:48 - Being in a s___ state after losing his brother 35:17 - His people being a motivation for getting back outside with music 38:20 - T-Rell coming to the set with Tyga, Kendrick coming with Jay Rock, bringing Nip to the set 41:32 - Dealing with Nipsey’s passing, Nipsey owning in his own hood, explains how Nipsey and Joe Moses met 49:52 - Meeting Nipsey for the first time When his name was Thundercat 52:55 - Thoughts on PNB Rocks passing, Checking in and why it’s important 57:54 - KBoy now being more business orientated, realizing everything doesn’t deserve a reaction, becoming the creative director for Shaka wear 1:08:20 - Thoughts on T-Rell x Tyga’s falling out, feeling like it’s T-Rell's fault 1:11:26 - People avoid telling him "no" when it comes to features 1:15:08 - Tapping into a group of people creating a loyal 10k member fanbase, building with Shaka wear 1:18:57 - Getting into short films, Nipsey leaving the blueprint, the world respecting his business acumen, being proud of T-Rell and AD ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper, man. What's up, man. I'm T. Rell. And I'm glad to have my homeboy here, K-boy, man. It's been a long time coming. Man, I've been knowing this young man for a very, very long time. We've been through it all. Man, I didn't see him go through it all. And, you know, right now, I'm glad to have him sitting here. And I'm going to try to get real familiar with this nigga right now. What a dude, girl? What's the deal? You good? Yeah, I'm good. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad to see you sitting here, you feel me, doing your thing, you feel me, looking like, you know, a whole bunch of positive-ass energy.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Yeah, I'm glad to be right here on this no-jumper couch. It's been a long time coming. Yeah. Yeah, I damn near have to cut your ass out. I mean, sorry, I was late today. I was being a little, you know, unprofessional. I thought the interview was at three. I mean, four, and it ended up being three, and I had to come rush here doing some bullshit,
Starting point is 00:00:58 but it's all good. I'm here with you. I'm glad to be here with you. You know what I'm saying? Here, bro. Come here. You know, I was just inquiring about your fit. And I was just wondering, you know, you're real comfortable with everything.
Starting point is 00:01:09 So where did you get that hat from? Did you go to the swap meet? Or did you go to Liz? You were to, give me that one. Yeah. You know, I'm a hat kind of, so I wear them all. I wear them all. Yeah, I mean, I fuck with you.
Starting point is 00:01:26 I fuck with you. Man, let me start playing with you, though, man. getting to my boy Yeah, I'm just joking, I'm just joking But look, man Yeah man I want to really get into this shit Man, you know
Starting point is 00:01:38 Because you You was one of the niggas that was there Before all this West Coast shit Like really like Took off as far as your generation Because you was there with the school boy cues You was there with the Kendrix The J-Rogs, Apsos
Starting point is 00:01:53 I remember you in you know Back there rapping G. Malones I remember you in these these magazines, I remember you doing all of this shit, you feel me, taking these steps to do this shit on the West Coast, you know what I'm saying? But something, something there went wrong, you feel me? Like, and I just want you to, like, let me know, like, where in that mix, you feel
Starting point is 00:02:18 me, you feel like you fell off? I feel like, honestly, I was doing my thing, right? But I don't think I necessarily fell off. I felt like that I was very inconsistent. And before I was inconsistent, I did get shot up. So when everybody started flourishing, it was like, what, 2010? Yeah. That's when I got hit up. So I was watching everybody from the sideline.
Starting point is 00:02:40 That's when Nip got big. That's when G got cracking more. J. Rock started cracking more. Dot wasn't even cracking just cracking it. You know what I mean? It was them. They was like the forefront. Bishop was still around and everything.
Starting point is 00:02:52 But when I got shot, it kind of like, took a drain on me. And when it took a drain on me, I just start being very, very inconsistent where I dropped something here and then won't rap for two or three years after that. I remember talking to AD. He was like, I didn't even think you rap no more.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I thought you was just a businessman. I thought you was managing people. Or just gang banging. I mean, I was. Because that's what I'm thinking. I'm like, okay, he's just full-time, this crib. I'm like, okay, you feel I'm me? No, man, but I was trying to find myself again
Starting point is 00:03:24 because I was amongst the elites, the West Coast. And, yeah, man, it just wasn't happening for me that time. But I believe in timing, though, right now I feel like it's cracker. So how did you get shot up? Man, this is not even no Superman story, man. I was living in, like, the 30s, the Harlem's. It was like the borderline, the 30s and the Brims. And I was parked in front of my apartment,
Starting point is 00:03:49 waiting on my guy ace that I was in the group with. It was about to get our first page. show we was happy i'm waiting on him he was a little late like how you was today and uh make it pulled up on me they can tell me was bragging i told him what's cracking he told him he asked me where i was from i told him i couldn't even finish my sentence before he let the whole clip out fortunately only got here four times the doctor say five but i say four because i don't believe in the gray's the gray's bullet but four times bro and i'm here to talk about it four times and he asked you what was bracking.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Yeah. I mean, being shot, did it take you to, like, you know, being a little, like, envious. I'm not envious, but just, like, trying to take this shit to another level to where you're, like,
Starting point is 00:04:41 I need retaliation. You know what? In the beginning, of course, we're from the streets. You want to get it cracking, but I made it to where it wouldn't be my hood versus that hood, because I knew everybody from that. other hood yeah I mean and I had relatives from that other hood my homies knew the nigger he just didn't know who I was at the particular time until the information came out you feel me so it was like one of them
Starting point is 00:05:06 i mean nah niggas know who you was I mean but you are one of them niggas you know like you you you ad before a d you know what I'm saying like AD I say what I say that to say like everybody loves this nigga no matter where you from no matter what you're doing how you doing it like you one of them niggas like you really you know I'm saying like everybody loves K-boy niggas this that and the other
Starting point is 00:05:30 blah blah blah blah blah blah so to hear you get shot up too we're like okay he gonna bounce back you know this one year he gonna bounce back where he at he gonna bounce back so how did that take a toll on you
Starting point is 00:05:45 was did it bring you into like a depression mode or what? For sure realistically mentally it fucked me up because then you don't I had to learn how to walk again. It took me two and a half years to walk again. So I had to learn that process again.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Just watching your peers blow up, and you know you're supposed to be there. And then music changing, you know what I mean? When I come back to music, then we got the jerk error. You know what I mean? Now the new boy is cracking and audio push and all that. That's cool. But I wasn't doing that type of music.
Starting point is 00:06:15 I was doing gangster rap. So just trying to fit in when everything was kind of like difficult. I felt like I could do it, but at that time mentally I just wasn't there because I was fucked up. And like how you said, trying to keep your street rep, when you're being ignorant
Starting point is 00:06:32 and you talk the wrong way, trying to keep the street rep that really don't even matter. Trying to make sure niggas knew that like, okay, I'm out here. Like, niggas was thinking that I stayed in the area. After that, I still stayed where I stayed four years later. But it wasn't because I was tough.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I really just didn't have the money to move. But outside looking in, and me, I took that too. So I took the energy. Like, yeah, I'm, right here still standing outside where it happened hoping somebody pull up but that was ignorant at the time
Starting point is 00:06:59 because if somebody pulled up we wouldn't be having this conversation so yeah that's like that's crazy as fuck you know what I'm saying for you to be doing that shit the whole thing you said to I got a home girl right yeah one of my best friends Tyne Ward but fuck off in BPS she do a lot of shit with AD with 60s she told me all the time
Starting point is 00:07:17 and it stuck with me after I got shot this one I start realizing like yeah everybody may love me but everybody don't fuck with me. And she was telling me like, bro, you really from where you from? But you're a happy-go lucky, crib. You just be everywhere with no care in the world. Just, just everywhere. She's like, bro, you got to stop that. And I was thinking that the reason why I told him what's cracking and told him where I'm from because I'm thinking in my mind, like how you said, oh, everybody loves K-boy. Once I let him know, my name is K-boy, he's going to go, oh, I know who you are. That wasn't the case. That nink can give a fuck who I was. So I, I have.
Starting point is 00:07:52 have to take it to be like, okay, you got to move strategically and you got to move accordingly. And you got to keep your head on the swivel, whether you think everybody deal with you or not. It's the world we live in, bro. Yeah, because now, like, even still, like, these rappers is moving out here, like, and you learn it from experience. So now when you get out here, like, and you bumping the niggas and you know, niggas is hard-headed. Like, what do you tell, motherfuckers? Because these niggies is wild out here. I'm telling the same thing I'm saying right now
Starting point is 00:08:23 you got to move accordingly and bro you got to really understand that this is for real this is life. Don't take your life for granted don't play with your life because it's serious out here but we took the to the air and the generation where everything is social media
Starting point is 00:08:40 and you didn't have to ride with the big homies that put in work you didn't have to have on the face you ain't really got to go to the jills or none of that you could just be tough from your phone and have a lot of people that vouched for you being tough. So everybody want to feel like they're tough from this, from this device.
Starting point is 00:08:59 And a lot of us are just allowing it. So that's what it is. So everybody wants to talk every, I ain't never seen nobody go live with their enemy until this generation. That shit is baffling. Like, you go live with your enemy, talking back and forth about doing harm to each other and when something happened, everybody would be like, oh, that shouldn't it? But they brought that among themselves, though.
Starting point is 00:09:22 So I just feel like just as Niggas like us, me, you older people before as I feel like we, you know, something went wrong. The information. I mean, so we got to get the youth, the information, the right way. Like, I'll tell my homies all the time. Look, everybody don't rap.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Everybody's not going to get a job. But if you're going to be in the streets, you got to do it right. You got to be a thinker. You got to think with anything that you do. Because with every action, it's a reaction. So always remember that. So make sure you think before you do so. You know, gaining all of this knowledge, learning along the way.
Starting point is 00:09:56 How do you actually feel about cripping? Do we, is it a thing that we should glorify still? Or do you tell the younger generation, fuck this shit? It's so crazy, right? I'm in the drive outside right now, pool. We talk about this all the time. We debate about it. We argue about it.
Starting point is 00:10:13 We agree about it. We disagree about it. Cripping in blood. So Criving since I'm on that side of the fit. A lot of people think when we rap, that we glorify. Like Nip had this problem when he was alive.
Starting point is 00:10:25 We had these conversations many of times. We're not glorifying anything, bro. We're just really telling you our story. We're really telling you the pros and the cons about what goes on the streets. Sometimes it seemed like we glorifying it because we're reping our area in our section.
Starting point is 00:10:41 So, of course, we're happy where we're from. We pride for what we're from. That's our tribe. But realistically, yeah, man, this shit fucked up. When you think about it, it really is fucked up. Like, it's like, I know what's cliche to say, but it's really just death and jail. That's it. You don't got no 401K.
Starting point is 00:11:00 You don't got no dental plan. You ain't got no insurance. And nine times out of ten, we got to do a car wash or a catfish fry to bury the person. So you niggas ain't financial literate. You knick's, like, in that of that, financial literate, you know, literacy. You don't know to have fucking life insurance, you feel I mean? Like, niggas got wheels. you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:11:22 Niggas, you know, mutual funds Niggas, you know, your parents should know about this type of shit and we don't grow up with this shit, you feel me, so. We don't teach, we only do what we talk and if we wasn't taught it we're not going to do it. So we only do what we talk and shit, man, this shit is crazy.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Like, yeah, I tell them like, yeah, I tell them a young nigga all the time, like, before you enter this, like, really think about it because it really ain't worth it. It's really not. This shit is crazy out here. And are you really ready for this because when it happens what you're going to do about it.
Starting point is 00:11:54 And nine times out of ten in hoods, you got like thousands of members, but there only be like 15 killers. That's a crazy percentage rate. So everybody else is hustlers, pretty boys. You know what I mean? Hold down the block. Yeah, they hold
Starting point is 00:12:10 the block down. I was one of the niggas who squabble all the time. I ain't never betraying myself to be no killer. You feel me? Yeah. If it comes to that, yeah, but other than that, you know, I was one of, I'm going to squabble you. but I like, you know, I like to get money. So some shit ever happening like, K-boy hopping, uh, and you like, you turning it down.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Like, no, I ain't getting in the car. I don't get pressure, though, like that. You know what I mean? Maybe because of the generation I'm from and, you know what I mean, who my brother was, you know what I mean, before he passed away. The people I did with, my clique,
Starting point is 00:12:41 maybe that's what it is. Or they just respect the gangst in me. I don't know what it is, but I don't get pressure to do anything. I mean? Let's go back, you know what I'm saying? said you, you know, motherfuckers always ask you the same question, but I'm going to ask you. And because we know, we redoing this whole thing, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:57 Kay Boy is coming back out here. This is a whole new audience. These motherfuckers is young. So they got to learn about you and seeing what's going on. So take me back to the young, Roddy, you know what I'm saying, crazy Kay Boy. Oh, I would say that was the Blue Division days. Me. Well, I got cut off by pulling glasses every other day.
Starting point is 00:13:18 You feel me? Yeah. I mean, it was one time, right, who's going to laugh? Because he got a gang of stories with me. He just trying to, you know, shape me into the man that I need to be, right? So introduce yourself. So he told me this, so I'm going to teach people watching this. Just because you're gay, man, you don't got to introduce yourself as your gang name and where you from.
Starting point is 00:13:39 You could just be like, hey, my name, K-boy, bro, what's up? How are you doing? But then when did you learn that? I'm telling you right now. Because I didn't learn that for a long-ass time. I tell you right now. We was in the day, I wish he'd tell me,
Starting point is 00:13:51 we were somewhere, maybe somewhere in the South. And, oh, we was at the Ozone Awards. This name of Poole came up to me. He was so hot. He said, I'm going to count every time that you introduce yourself as a K-boy from four-way games to crib.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I'm going to count it every time I'm just going to give you a look. I'm like, bro, I don't even be tripping. He was like, oh, yes, you do. I think about that, the trip was over with. I probably was like in the 30s. How many times I told him was where I was from?
Starting point is 00:14:16 And guess what? They didn't even care. They don't even know. They don't know what the fuck's going on. What I'm talking about, because we're in a whole other state. They really don't care. And they're like, all right, cool. But me at that time, being so young, I thought that's what we had to do.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I started to introduce myself. And no, that's not the way. And I think a lot of the things, too, that stop my nigga from getting the bag is being introduced a certain way. So I get mad at people now. Do not introduce me as that. Introduce me as Kay Boy. Either I'm doing some business stuff or this is your friend Kayboy. that's real dope and rap.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Don't even let them know about the street. So they're going to find that out anyway. But don't just give it to him on the initial, when you introduce yourself to somebody. Don't. The initial introduction, don't do that, bro, because it make people go, yeah. The home girl did they're like,
Starting point is 00:15:04 hey, this one of the realest niggas out here. If you need some, he got it. He wanted the famous crips. And I'm just looking at her like, really? This person just look. That's what your ass was doing. And you're like, fuck it, we just gonna keep on doing it. And that's what Poole tell me.
Starting point is 00:15:21 He's like, that's the perception of you. That's what you wanted when you was young. Now you got it. Now I don't want it no more. It's over with, though. Now you've got to live with it, but you can change it around. You can just know. Just change the narrative.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Yeah, you change the narrative a little bit. You know what? I always wanted to know what happened to this Blue Division shit. You know what I'm saying? And what happened to you and G. Malone? Because, you know, it was tight. But it's almost like you niggas is the same motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:15:45 And, you know, I know how G. I know how G is, I know how you is, but what initially happened with the Blue Division thing? It really wasn't nothing like that if people think that everybody's mad. So G didn't try to squabble with you? No, he didn't try to squabble with you, but we get mad each other on time.
Starting point is 00:16:05 I probably try to squabble with him. Yeah. I probably try to squabble with him. Faye was asked for somewhere in this mix. I know it, so let me know. I probably try to squabble with him, But that's just me being the little bro that just didn't give a fuck and wanted to have my way.
Starting point is 00:16:20 When I didn't get my way, I threw a tempotential. But me, this and my, look, man, I'm true to the soil. I'm the only person that got Blue Division tatted on them. You know what I mean? It's on my own. I got the vision tatted on them. I'm the only one that really was, you know what I mean? Putting it down, I got the vision tat on me.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I got the set tatted on me. So, but when I got older, like I said, when I got a little older, and after I got shot, I just felt like they started being new people. And like I said, you started looking at people like, man, why are you bringing them over here? Where they come from? Why are they getting all attention? So what I did was I just dissing myself. I was talking like, look, bro, I just want to do my own thing.
Starting point is 00:16:55 He was like, for sure, do your own thing. So by you doing your own thing, I start my own crew, start my own movement. It was like, we own at that time. Because you remember, me and boobie, so I always say we own, I'm on. So I started some shit called We Own Music Group. All my home were from high school that did music, we was power. made it to the radio, and I felt like, dang, I should have been doing this. But that's just me just thinking ignorant, thinking that he wasn't trying to help and all that.
Starting point is 00:17:23 But he was. But at that time, nobody knew the business, like how they know the business now. He was still learning himself, and he had to be the rapper himself. But you're not knowing that, and I got outside people in my ear, like, niggas, hey, you know you, man, it's mad because, you flired in there. So I started talking to him crazy like that. You're just mad because I'm fliering you, and nobody wants to see you. They come to see me.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I felt like I was David Ruff. Don't nobody want to see you, Otis. So did niggins you feel like, you know what? Damn, this nigga hating on G. G. He doing this cash money thing. He doing this. He's doing all of this.
Starting point is 00:17:55 But this nigga, K-boy is starting to hate. Like, he got a little bit, you know, a little bit more juice. I've never hated. I'm got a hating bone of my body. But being feeling some type of way? Because I'm a Virgo. I'm a little bit. I'm an emotional thug.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Nigger. Blame it on the sign, y'all. But feeling some type of way? Yeah, I felt some type of way because I just felt like I wasn't getting or receiving the help that I thought I should at the moment.
Starting point is 00:18:23 But when you go back and you look at it and you get older and be like, me he couldn't even help his self at that time. So it's nothing. I still talk to his crazy ass to that. His brother is my manager. So it ain't no love loss at all. We still tight.
Starting point is 00:18:35 It's just, I think we had one of the biggest movements and we talk about it all the time that, damn, we could have been the biggest shit out here. We could have been mentioned with the top dogs and all that. as far as a label and a crew, we could have, no, for real, because we had it popping for it. No, you had it popping for real.
Starting point is 00:18:49 You was out here, y'all was moving around, you feel what I'm doing, y'all thing. You feel me? Like, even take me back to your first, like, you know, a project, which I was doing, like, to have all of that, you know, put together, you know what I'm saying? Let me know about that. Yeah, so the first project, I came in as a group. A lot of people don't know that, but I was from this group called the Block Boys. It was me and one of my closest friend, Ace.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I mean, shout out to him, man. He's going through something right now, man, but free him. So it was me and him. And a lot of people think we was the greatest ballets. Like, he was a dope balance from me. Because, like I said, when I was young, I wasn't thinking about I wanted to be the dopest rapper. I wanted to live in the history books of hip hop and all that.
Starting point is 00:19:32 I was ignorant. I wanted to be the biggest crick rapper. That's where my mind frame was. I was ignorant at the time. I'm like, I want to be bigger to Snoke. That's it. I'm bigger to Snoke because everybody's going to fuck on me in the world. but Ace was my balance.
Starting point is 00:19:46 He was different from the streets, but he didn't gang bang. So when we did music together, it was a hell of a balance. Because if not, you're going to get strictly crip-wrapped. And people get tired of that at some point. So when we started off, it was cool. We was doing our day. Then something happened to him personally where he had to go be a man and go be a father, and he moved.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Once he moved, I was kind of like by myself. So I had to fend for myself, and I put on my first mixtape by myself, Jacket for Beach, 2009. really got me cracking. Julio G did it and DJ Ill Will. Shout out to DJ Ill Will. He was moving around that time. He was cracking at that time.
Starting point is 00:20:23 He was cracking. By me having Julio G at that time, he was like, oh, you got a legendary DJ. So once I did that, it was on. There's some dope freestyles on there, had some dope records, and that's when everybody, like, really paid attention. But before then, I had a burst on Gene Malone's electric chair,
Starting point is 00:20:40 and everybody said, oh, that's what, DJ Ill will told me, that's why I got on you from that verse. So was those two mix-stakes that really got me cracking and I started off in a group, but after that, that's how I had to go solo. Had to fend for myself. And ever since then, I was like, all right, ain't gonna look it back. Being the, trying to be the biggest Crip Rapper, you know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:20:59 How was it running in the game back then? Running into who? Game. Because game was doing this thing, you know what I'm saying? It was, you know, the blood side over here, that you coming over here, like, I'm this crap. Like, how was it? running in the game.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I didn't really understand being around bluds until I start dealing with pooling G Malone. Yeah. Because G. Malone was dealing with a lot of blus and I didn't get there. They got me around 17, 18. So at that time of your life, you still, if you're a street dude and you're a game brand, you still want to make a name for yourself. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:21:32 And I'm the little brother of a beast. So it's like, I want people to fuck with me and not fuck with me because of me, not because who my brother is, not because who my big homie that I got with me. that I call my brother to this day. Like, not because who they are, but who I am. So I was still trying to make my name. So by them dealing with bloods, it threw me off. Like, I'm not going over there with you, niggas.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I was still disrespecting. Yeah, because I say that to say, when I seen that shit, I was like, what the fuck? You know what I'm saying? I'm like, damn, I've never seen that shit. It wasn't normal. Yeah, I never seen that shit. Every day.
Starting point is 00:22:04 It wasn't normal. It wasn't. But this is how, when I ran in a guy running in the face first, this is how I start having a respect and just stop distressing. respecting bloods in my lingo as a whole. I ran in the face. Glasses at the song called 200.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I got 100 Crips and 100 Power Rules. I ain't scared of you motherfuckers. We go to Club Blue. What's that? Westminster, we doing a show. They don't tell me that it's a Power Rule Hood Day. I'm sick. They say it's a show, but it's actually their hood day.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Yeah. So I'm really not noticing that it ain't too many niggas that were the same color flag as me in here. Yeah. So when I'm on stage, they're rocking with us. But I see two particular dudes throwing up CK. But I'm thinking they're doing it to me, at me. So I'll bounce off the stage.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Facey everything. Big face. Game brother. He grabbed me, put me to the side. And he really let me know, like, look, I get it. I'm going to get on them for disrespecting. But I want you to look around. I'm glad I see you.
Starting point is 00:23:07 I've seen your whole energy. Just look around. So I'm looking around. He was like, bro, you wouldn't have made it out of here. We do deal with y'all. Like, glasses is a part of my company. We deal with him.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Y'all wouldn't be here, but people are in their element right now. So I'm going to tell him the chill, but this is our element right now. So I had to take that, and I had to learn. At first, I wasn't care. I was immature,
Starting point is 00:23:31 but once I understood what he meant, that's like now, right? I'd be out. Everybody feel like I can just go anywhere. Niggas giving me these titles, the neighborer niggas. called me their favorite gangster, and a lot of hummies be like, how could you just sit on Crenshaw-Slauss and hear these disrespectful words?
Starting point is 00:23:51 But I'd be like, they don't do that. They don't disrespect me. Yeah, take me through that. They don't do it at all. They don't disrespect me at all, right? So that's cool. I love that they respect it. But say they do, and Ma's supposed to get mad and squabble everybody in their hood
Starting point is 00:24:06 and they're in their environment? That's their environment. So this is how you do that. You just don't go. you be smart you just don't go if you don't want to hear or see these blood niggas do certain things that they do all day 24-7
Starting point is 00:24:19 then why would you be over there? Same thing. If I know the name was going to disrespect and say a certain word, why would I be over there? And vice versa. If you know that you come to my section and we say disrespectful for something, why would you be over there? First of all, we are going to respect you because I'm somebody from where I'm from. And if I bring somebody
Starting point is 00:24:35 to the neighborhood and I tell them who they are, they're going respect it. But homies, you know, it's hard to hold your tongue. if that's all you know. So all these slip-ups, and then a nigga gonna get tired of saying, my bad, to a nigga day looking like,
Starting point is 00:24:49 what are you even doing over here anyway? So I just started making my visits very short to certain areas. But I got off subject, back to game. This is a funny story. So before I don't even meet game yet. So I wish Ace was here. A's like, bro, you burnt out. So game used to boil at this thing called the Epic, right?
Starting point is 00:25:10 It's like close by U.S. seeing all that. So he goes to the bathroom. I got to go to the bathroom. We're like in the stores next to each other. So me just want to be tough and want to just show my rap.
Starting point is 00:25:23 I'm lucky big. I'm like, what's up, kid? What's up with you? He looked down like but it kind of looked like you just got to be like a setup because ain't no little nigger fun of just cause me in the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:25:39 But, you know, I ain't going to say Chuck is You know, that's my guy right now. Everybody's seeing me with Chuck all the time. But I know if he were remembering this, he's going to be like, yeah, gateway burnt out. Like, I go back to Poole what Poo say. Here you go, got to introduce your son.
Starting point is 00:25:51 What's up? Because I'm cable. I'm four-eighth games of crap. What's up with you? Then I tell him, I'm from Blue Division, though. I'm glasses artist. So it's just like, I really just wanted to let you know. Where I'm from anyway.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I just need to be. No, I really wanted to let you know. I really want to let you. I'm rock with glasses. Yeah. And, you know what I'm trying to do a song with you. I'm from Blue Division. I am, but you see me a lot, but this is where I am, when I should have just did that.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Anyway. Anyway, you feel me? But that was funny. I don't know if he'd see them like, man, this a little nigga burnt out. But after that, I just started really just dealing with all the power rules, the counter power rules. And this is going back to when you ask, like, how gang banging is, like, the shit kind of, like, it's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And it's like, it's just weird because I go back and forth with who we talk about why niggas should just leave it alone or try to get it. give a dude some really some good insight on things because I had to go to the ozone where I was talking about glasses like get there I'll get you back I couldn't ask nobody that I knew I couldn't ask nobody with the same color as me the VNG sent me out there feel me I got some close friends for VNG they had the money they sent me out there um how rules always show me love and captain helping they got out with this music so that's when I was like this shit is like what was we taught?
Starting point is 00:27:11 Like, what was the information that I was getting? Like, it's really not that bad. These dudes really like, hey, we fuck with you. You whore. Why are you not there? Oh, man, I ain't got to, I got the change. Man, don't even trip.
Starting point is 00:27:23 We're going to see you. And we don't want nothing back. And they're not even never, you ain't ever heard them stories. They ain't even saying that. I'm saying that. Because I got to let them know that I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:27:31 I fuck with you. You feel me so. Let me take you back because you said, I'm going to take it back to where you say you got shot up. You know what I'm saying? It was fucking with you was,
Starting point is 00:27:39 You know what I'm saying? You was dealing with that. But your brother also died. You feel me? Like, you know what I'm saying? Explain that, man, and what happened, you feel I'm saying? I don't know what happened. All I know is he died in the hood.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. I know that day, though, it wasn't a good day for nobody. I was actually going through it in the household with my girl, always getting caught up doing some BS with a female. So I was in my emotional state. So I got a call that, you know, my brother always getting into it. You know, but he listened to me, and he listened to my big brother that's outside.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Only two people that can really come him down. I mean, I don't know what he was doing, what happened, but something happened, something transpired. And at night, I got another call, like, you better get to the hood because your brother got hit. So when I go, I felt some type of way where there wasn't nobody out there, but the homies actually was somewhere else. dealing with another death. So I'm thinking like, shit, I made it. He's gonna make it. He's way bigger than me.
Starting point is 00:28:42 And I got hit with a four-five. So I'm like, and at that time, you knew me then. I was frail at that time. I was real skinny. Went to the hospital and made it. So, you know, I tell moms and all that, that was a painful situation. So you think that was, like, a nigga coming through?
Starting point is 00:28:59 I don't know what happened. Probably. Probably so. I really can't speak on it. Honestly, I can't. I would love to, but I came. Because I don't know, because he just always into something. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:29:10 He was a crap, for real. That was his life. After that, how did you deal with that? Did that even more with the rap shit? You just gave up? Like, you know what? Man, fuck this shit. You know what?
Starting point is 00:29:23 I never told nobody this, but everybody that's watching, oh, here it is. I was in a suicidal state. It's my every day. Everybody knows how I feel about my big brother. It's my every day. you feel me even when he go to the pen and all i still talk to him every day get on my nerves and all that i feel like i was the little big brother because everybody called me when he
Starting point is 00:29:42 do some crazy stuff because i'm the only one i can come him down i'm the thinker i got to think for both of us i'm both of the brains he's pinky i'm the fucking brain so um i was in a suicidal state bro because i'm like this my left hand man what am i going to do without my brother you feel me so it took a toll um i ain't even gonna lie i I had resentment from the hood. I stayed away for like a month. Then in my head, I'm like, I'm going back. Ain't nobody, man.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I'm from the set for real. But it's still fucked up when I go over there because I ain't the same. Why you have resentment? Do you feel like niggas knew something you didn't know? Because it happened over there. So I was mad because it happened. And, you know, anybody, anybody you close to from your hood?
Starting point is 00:30:28 If it happened in the hood, you're mad. Like, how did niggas let this happen? Or how did it happen here? You think most of the time, they're going to happen. If you know, you know that you're doing some weird shit or you outside and nobody got no blower because that happens nine times out of ten,
Starting point is 00:30:42 everybody outside. Everybody hitting up the cars and nobody got no pistol. But, you know what I mean? I was just mad. I'm mad. My brother did. I'm mad at everybody. Nigger myself.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I feel like I could have stopped him. He should have stayed at home with me. That's why I was suicidal. I'm mad at that. Mad at my hood. Mad at it. nigga, his pops, which is my step pops, he passed away. Two weeks later, we had a double funeral.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Mad at him because he was supposed to send my brother somewhere. I was just mad at everybody. You know what I mean? I was mad at my girl, and I'm the one who got caught cheating. I'm mad at her for being mad at me. You feel me? So I was just mad at everybody, bro. Doing those suicidal thoughts, like, what kind of, like, thoughts were you having, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:25 as far as, like, hurting yourself? Yeah, you know, you just start thinking that everything. I just start blaming myself. I think that's where, you know, I'm glad we're speaking about this because mental health is for real. Like, check on your people's. Like, a phone call is easy. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:31:43 When I said, I'm going back and forth so they can really get the picture because I got a whole story, but, like, when I just talked about my homie Ace, I was in the group with, he's going through mental health. Before he went in, he lost his mind. So that's why I tell everybody say a prayer for him. But I blame myself because, you know, you just wave stuff off. I should have talked to him more. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:32:03 He was probably going through something, but I wasn't trying to hear it because you always be, I don't know how many crazy, man, I don't got a time for that when they was really trying to tell you something. So I was going through that where nobody wanted to hear me.
Starting point is 00:32:15 It's cool. They think I'm just being a weirdo, and I'm just like, fuck it. Maybe I'm better off with my brother. So, you know what I mean? But I got kids. So when I thought about that, I feel like suicide is the most selfish act ever.
Starting point is 00:32:29 when I started thinking about it like, damn. So I'm going to knock myself down. My kid's not going to have a father because I took my own life because I was just in some crazy-ass emotional state. So, you know, I got my shit together. I bounce back. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:47 Start going back to the set. Talking to my big bra side. Just started trying to just figure out things about just light period. Like, what I'm going to do now? Like, productive. I'm going to do now productive. how can I really change shit
Starting point is 00:33:01 or how can we change shit for shit like that to not happen again so often But did the set help you cope Because you know some niggas I ain't gonna like game making Don't know how to help you cope with shit Like they can't cope with stuff they self
Starting point is 00:33:16 What are we going back to the set to actually do Get a breath of fresh air nigga or Like where does it bring you back to So where to where you like you know what I ain't going This is where he at Yeah Some of my brother at
Starting point is 00:33:29 every day. Like I told you, that's him. That's his life. You know what? A couple of his last messages is like, he told me that. I'm a dying of shit. It happened. Oh, you call, nigger. Last messages. I still got him. I'm a dying of shit. And it happened. So, I feel like, you know, so spiritual shit, this is where he at. Nick, if it's a spiritual world and the spirit is around, that niggas on the block right now. So that's where I'm going to go. And I got niggas that love me over there that really, really do
Starting point is 00:33:59 Jimmy Love me. And that's one that's all right right now. So I went back for stuff like that and I think cuz too because he know that he can't replace my brother in the sense of being blood, but yeah, he picked it up.
Starting point is 00:34:16 You know what I mean? That's my nigga, so wherever I go, he go. And I feel like my brother with him too. So you feel me? But I got back, Cracker. I didn't want to rap no more though. Yeah, because I was about to say How did what, you know what, you know what, you know what, you know what, you know what, you know what I'm saying? G. Because I, very recently, I just seen you being K-boy again.
Starting point is 00:34:38 You know what I'm saying? To me, I ain't going to lie. Like, I don't talk to you every day. We don't text every day and all the whole little shit. But when I see K-boy on my timeline, when I see you, you know, on the Instagram or whatever the case may be, it's refreshing. So I see my nigger. I'm like, my nigger. at it. He doing this thing. He's doing
Starting point is 00:35:00 what I've, you know what I'm saying. I know him to do. He'd be moving around. Let niggas know what's up. Who he is. He always got something going. He's always around, motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? So, what gave you that motivation to just get back out there and start being you again?
Starting point is 00:35:16 Man, I ain't going to lie. Them two niggas that's outside right now. Who start believing? So everybody knows managed by Jazzy D. Right? Jazzy just wasn't feeling the industry. no more. So he's like, man, I'm going to do more like, what's the word I'm looking for,
Starting point is 00:35:33 administration to artists who like, you know what? I'm not dealing with my brother on that manager stuff no more. I always believed it in you anyway. Cool, I'm going to rock with you. But me and Poo end up being the same person. We should have been rocking. He shouldn't even been managing this, bro. He should have been managing me from the start. Because us two together, it's crazy. And in my big bro, CD out there, he always gives me tough love. He always gives me tough Like, nigga, you was whack. Like, nigga, you was whack, bro. You didn't brought every big rapper to the hood,
Starting point is 00:36:05 Nicky, all that thing. And problem, all these nigginsie. And you are whack, bro. You brought all these big niggins to the set. You're not doing nothing. I was even over there. Yeah, no, for sure. You, Tiger, all that shit went on that.
Starting point is 00:36:16 All that time. I was in you. Brother. Yeah. I remember that. I'm like, nigga, I'm crazy as a motherfucker, bro. But, you know what I'm saying? He was holding it down for show.
Starting point is 00:36:28 I know shit like that because I know he mean well, but he'd be like, nah, I be on you because you're supposed to have been flourished, bro. He told me, he told me, what he tells me? Some type of crazy analogy, but it's like, it's for real. You know, most talented people, when you talented, you feel like you're just talented, right? He'd be like, bro, you just think you could just go out, go on the court and just score 50 points fast because you're talented. Like, you ain't got to do no work.
Starting point is 00:36:53 You ain't got to go to practice or none of that. So he'd be on my head. So when I really start getting that, them talks from them, I'm like, all right, let me go. Because then I like proving niggas wrong, too. So that's just the motivation to do it. And then my homeboy came, my nigga Rerey, that signed Cannon for real for real. Yeah. The FC, I was dealing with them for a minute.
Starting point is 00:37:11 He the one who really was like, bro, I knew you was hard. Because he grew up with my cousins that's labeled a niggas. So when he was like, bro, they said you was dope, but I know you just hard. He kind of, like, influenced me to do it back. He was like, man, I put a couple of dollars in your pocket. let's get the cracking. So once I did that, and I was like, okay, people still receiving me like,
Starting point is 00:37:30 oh yeah, K-boy back, like how you said? I started doing it again. Start doing it and doing it. And I'm like, all right, okay, I'm back. And then, you know, just my brother, one of my biggest fans. He's like, I know he turned over his grave if I say I quit music. So I was like, you know, I'm going to do this for him.
Starting point is 00:37:47 And then losing my granny, she was a big supporter too. So I got to do it for them. I have to. I know that shit sounds cliche, or people want to do it for their dead folks, But when you know that them people were big supporters of what you're doing, what you're trying to accomplish, you got to do it because just giving up,
Starting point is 00:38:03 it's just like it's pointless. Give me a story of Kendra coming to the set. Because you really was bringing everybody over there. Why was we over there? I have no fucking idea, but we was over there with K-boy because Cubs said come to, and that's what we was doing. Nah, when y'all came, I think y'all came, like, a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:38:23 But the main time y'all came, Tiger was shooting that video. What was the video? He was going to everybody section. Yeah, he was. I forgot the name with that song. And we hit you. We were like, yeah, we're going to go over there. Well, I hit you.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I'm like, oh, we're going to go to the K-boy shit, nigga. I know we can go over there, blah, blah, blah. I don't remember the name of it, but I know one of the scenes he was on the roof somewhere, right? So when he came, he came to my liquor store in 48th Central at Webb's liquor store. So that was cool. We came over there. I think Doc came with J. Rock before. just, I would just, at that time,
Starting point is 00:38:56 you wanted to be big and letting people know you really from where you're from. And you could come over there and ain't nobody gonna trip because I'm me. I was doing it like that. Brought Nip over there. Bullets ain't got on names Volume 1.
Starting point is 00:39:11 But everybody knew Nip was my nigga anyway. That was my friend. But still, you know, niggas, you still in the atmosphere of gang members and gang bangers. But it was cool, though. You're right. I was bringing everybody to this set.
Starting point is 00:39:21 And Mott's hood is really monumental. Like, people don't even know that. So that's what I'd be like to break it down in interviews, too. Like, I'm really from the low-bottom east side of the section where black people came first when they came to Los Angeles. Black people was there first on Central Avenue. Before there was Lamert Park in the Kernshall district and Watts was popping. There was a low-bottom east side right there on Central Avenue. We had the first Black Panthers on 41st and Central.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Yeah, I mean, we still got the Dunbar Hotel. Now it's the Dunbar Apartments. They changed the name a little bit, but everything is still right there. Billy Holiday and all these. type of people played right there. Who lied and told you that shit? Nah, I do my research, man. That thinking like, no, I'll give my sense of history, bitch.
Starting point is 00:40:03 You ain't going to do it up. You got to know where you're from and what you represent. It ain't just all gangbanging over there. That's like a real, real powerful piece of, like, history for black people, period. And if you don't believe me, go on YouTube, watch 41st Central. It's going to break everything down about the Black Panthers being right there 41st and Central. With Nip being your nigger
Starting point is 00:40:26 and all of this shit happening to him, well, the shit that happened to him. Like, how did you deal with that shit? Because Nick wasn't my nigga or none of that shit. I ran between him a few times.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I fucked with him. Real genuine nigga. Yeah, just real cool, real genuine nigga. But that shit hurt my heart. It fucked with me bad. Because I was like, if this nigger,
Starting point is 00:40:54 can get hit in his own section doing this shit for his community opening stores all the shit you know what I'm saying I don't know what I don't know what the whole what it would entail to the nigger what happened to the nigger whatever he said whatever to the nigger I don't know but
Starting point is 00:41:11 me I feel like shit being who you is you get the same shit like that you know what I'm saying you doing a lot like you has a lot of respect and you should have like you should have that much respect not to do cut like that but that shit really hurt me even though i know he is for where he from like so how did that shit make you feel good that shit fuck that nigga up first because he's my friend right and then like how you said damn this nigga actually died where he really started
Starting point is 00:41:42 gang banging that he really sold socks and t-shirts and his mixtape at where he said i'm own this motherfucker and really owned it before his demise it fucked me up to lose your life right there like that I mean the cold blood and like how you said he was another nigga that everybody even though he was
Starting point is 00:42:03 from 6-0 everybody respected love nip and you seen that when he did die they went through y'all shit 6-0 hanging out in all life niggas one or two niggas could have did what they did but everybody respected that man that was in that coffin so they allowed him to go through everybody
Starting point is 00:42:19 section and they gave it up for him because he was just a genuine dude man he was different he was about his people and then there wasn't just the crinshaw edition it wasn't just the six he was about us he was about his people for real and he's the conversation me and him used to have and we was like that we both from the part of the city where we got a lot of black history so yeah we're gonna rep what we're from cool that's what I'm telling people about music um it's not glorifying it we just let you know what's happening over here we just reporters from section and we let you know what's happening we're gonna let you know the good times the bad times what's dope about it what's not dope about it while we love it and hate it at the same time it's a
Starting point is 00:42:58 love and hate relationship with the section you know that you love your section but you be like man niggas be on some bullshit because everybody not doing what we doing you feel me and they don't understand what we're doing but yeah it hurt a nigger heart bro because it's like damn he really could have put that story anywhere else bell rose rodeo where everything out where we're at the Fairfax, this, wherever all the shit is that. But he was like, no, I'm put it right here. I asked him that, too, like, why you put it right here? And I'm confused.
Starting point is 00:43:26 You put that right here? Yeah, because I'm never going. I love you to death, though, but I told a nigga I'm not going over there and go, boys, I don't give a fuck, what's going on? But you know what's so crazy how you say that? And he was like me where if you would have came, yeah, it'd have been straight. You'd have been super straight.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And, man, it's a lot of stories that I want to, you know, I can't give him. everything, but since you never went over there, people don't understand that I'm the reason why Nipsey and Joe Moses, I mean, know each other. It's a story. I just said this on a documentary. Like, Nipsey got a documentary that Black Sam was doing, and they called me in, and I did the part, and I told them about the story how I went, did the protocol thing that I always do, went to Crenshaw Sloss, saw. I'm like, hey, hey, draws, is it cool as I take Nip? Because, man, Joe Moses from VN want to do a record with him,
Starting point is 00:44:21 but I can't just take bro over there because I know y'all, you know what y'all got going on? He's like, no, that's cool because he'd fuck with Joe Moses' daddy when he was alive. So he's like, oh, no, that's cool. So me and Nip go, me and Nip sitting outside, he's like, good.
Starting point is 00:44:36 You sure are they straight? I'm like, bro, they're good. Me, I'm telling them. Like, everybody be taking their disrespect. I'm like, man, it's cool. You're a human. Like, if you're a fan of a nigga, you're a fan of a nigga. You're a fan of a nigga.
Starting point is 00:44:46 They're really fuck with you. I said, and at the end of the day, man, this crib. If they trip on you, they trip on me. We're going to get beat up together, but I'm like, that's not the case. We go into where Joey had a studio at is Joe Moses, Mills, everybody. Before 80, he was even a part of A-O-B, you know what I mean? It's nothing but Da-Mood's in there. I think Tiny Rock was in there. Everybody was in there. Cors was in there.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Chasso was alive at the time. I was Joe Moses' main producer. Rest his song. That's a gang of Don Moos. Nip going there and do the most extra diverse that you could think. of. It was the one with the with the two braids out of my neck, a Seattle hat to go on my chain neck fat. It's like, well, I ref'd that.
Starting point is 00:45:28 I'm looking like, oh, we're about to get chunks. That shit banged, oh. Yeah. Yeah. He'd come off the both. It's like the awkward silence where you can hear a pin drop. And then they go, oh, bloods, that shit was hard. Would you? And give him a mess,
Starting point is 00:45:44 and everything. He's shaking his hand. I'm looking at him. I'm like, yeah, I told you, man. miggas fuck with you boom we laugh all the way back to a section and all that ever since then them niggas been straight yeah i mean just off the respect with me uh it was in like a little situation these all nips these things since we on nip me j malone j rock we on our east side shit we just in hollywood just wants me aside shit i don't even know what we doing i just think we just hollywood hopper club to club nip there this is the time this is the time where j rock had that uh i did crib nigger jay rock did blood nigger to the hood
Starting point is 00:46:17 nigga be but jorcks are blowing up more than mine i don't know why the blus was cracking more than i was he said he had numbers so we're going nip is doing something at that time but it's cracking where he at i see nip 80 at the door little ad at the door from six oh he at the door so i just think at that particular time bro i know nip not here to defend himself so i'm talking for him i think at that particular time he just didn't know how to tell j rock like hey you good but this is It's a crypt function. It ain't just the 60s in here. It's like a whole neighborhood function in there.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I don't know what day it was, but they was in Hollywood, and they was deep. When we looked in there, but you know me, I'm like, it's cracking in there. And they're like, yeah, come on, Jim Blown. But he didn't, you know, it was kind of like the awkward, like, y'all good. But could can't really come in here like that. So J-Rock fell some type of way. And he had vouched for this because me and J-Roc still could have. I know he had vows for this story.
Starting point is 00:47:16 J-Roc was not feeling nip. at that time. I'm like, nah, bro, it's cool. Q wanted to do a record with him. Jay Rock wasn't feeling that. Like, nah, it's TD. We're not doing none of that. So I'm like, bro, I'm going to earn it out.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Jayrock go to New York. Nip go to New York. Boom, I call Nip. Like, nigga I'm out here. I say, cool. J. Rock out there, too. I need to really chop it up, bro, because it's really a misunderstanding, man.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Before you know it, Nip, like, I didn't already talk to him. I'm like, oh, it's good. Jayrock hit me. They kind of say before you know it, Nip is doing his verse of all my life. The song that J-Roy had with a little wing.
Starting point is 00:47:56 So they're doing it. They do their stuff. And that's why I go back to Q and all that is right. Q really wanted to do something. They didn't get to do it. But I'm the reason why Nip showed up. I surprised him,
Starting point is 00:48:07 a par 101-6, and tapped him on his back. And they shook hands. People don't know that's big for the city. If the record would have got done, it would have been huge. I mean, yeah, it was, it was just all about
Starting point is 00:48:19 being comfortable and we didn't know like we didn't know like you said like that shit wasn't normal like nah like because I remember that record tag I had with YG and Nipsey and YG was in the set you know what I'm saying? Everybody was going crazy even YG like older homies like
Starting point is 00:48:35 damn bro I would have never been over here nigga I was like yeah straight you feel me all my homies are whatever the case maybe but he was like you know can Nip come and I was like hell no Oh, nigger, that nigga, I don't think niggas is ready for that right now. I don't give a fuck, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:48:53 But I can't control all these niggas. Yeah, ain't nobody bigger than the program. Yeah, like, so I'm like, hell no, you feel me? But I seen that nigger, you feel me, I seen him again. Tiger wanted to go to his show. He wanted to bring him out or whatever, case may be. And I'm like, bro, like, I'm going to go with you, but I ain't got all my homies with me. He's like, no, that's going to be good.
Starting point is 00:49:12 You know, it's some shit after Roski. I'm like, well, maybe cut a rapper, you know. It's all good. He ain't going to have everybody there. You know what I'm saying? He's on this. And shit. I walk in the back door.
Starting point is 00:49:23 I walked in that motherfucker like. He was like, you straight, cud. I'm going to tell you right now. He brings me in the dressing room. I'm like, this is the homie. You know what I'm saying? He's from moving, blah, blah, blah. The niggas, everybody looked at being like,
Starting point is 00:49:35 and he just walked out that motherfucker. I was like, nigger. But they all walked out when it was time for him to go. And he was like, they was all like, yeah, he's straight, cah. In here, you good, you straight. Yeah, they fucked with it. I'm like, oh, yeah, this is crazy.
Starting point is 00:49:53 That's how we met. It's a club called the mixed nuts. First of all, me and him shouldn't have been at the mixed nuts anyway. First of all, you shouldn't even been at that motherfucker. That is crazy. It's on 10th in Washington. That is wild. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:05 We rapping for a showcase, whatever we was doing. We shouldn't have been there right there anyway. But we did it, boom. Introduce ourselves. He wasn't an Fancy. Thundercat. What's up? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Thundercat. K-boy, four-again-s, boom, whoa, whoa, whoa, cool. The next introduction, this is where we got, real tight. I'm at the VIP music on Slawson and Crenshaw, because I'm just feeling like everybody know me. Forget just knowing him. I know some killers over here already. I didn't went to school with him and all that, so I'm over there,
Starting point is 00:50:33 but I'm talking to Marlon, which is Coords, dope producer. He was working there at the time. I look up, I don't see Nip yet. I see a gang. He was walking by. Marlon, I go, ooh, K-Bore, you good, bro. want to go to the back, us being men, testosterone, and don't want to look like no bits.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I'm gonna stand down. I'm like, no, I'm straight. He doubled back, boom, then I see tall, I see the braid hair. His hair was never combed back then like that. Yeah. Wow, look back, boom. He look at me, he come in, he's like, I know you, huh, bro. But before he can finish it, everybody's like, what's up?
Starting point is 00:51:12 Where you from? What's up, man, where you from? I'm like, ooh, I tell him. We're already here now. I tell him all from he go six songs bro straight you was a
Starting point is 00:51:23 you was rapping at the shit too with me I'm like yeah bro he's like bro yeah he like but still like what's you doing still right here I'm like bro I came to chop it up with Marlin moreland on two he's like okay it makes sense doing music now he's straight everybody started introducing me
Starting point is 00:51:36 their names and all that that's cool I forgot who the fuck they was because it was too many of them after that he like man come to the shop that's where because you know they've been had that over it. It was sloths and teas. I was looking like, huh? I'm already bad enough from over here where the robinson's at. You're going to go over there by club shells?
Starting point is 00:51:56 Right. But I end up going. It was all love. End up really being cool with fats and all them. Jay Stone was ending out. A jail at that time with Jay Stone. And then like his crew really started being cool outside of people already knew because I had cousins from over there. And then it would just be became cool. And it just like, oh, that's Kayboy. I'll cut off a game but he's straight from these are guys he's good so he came like that
Starting point is 00:52:19 but it was all off the love of Nip yeah they respected them because if they didn't I would have got beat up in there you know him being from L.A
Starting point is 00:52:27 like I said it hurt me but I'm gonna give you another one niggas from nigga not from L.A you know what I'm saying and this is just recent yeah
Starting point is 00:52:36 it bothered me nigga PNB rock you know I'm saying getting killed at Rosco it bothered me I'm like
Starting point is 00:52:45 and I'm like damn when did this shit when this shit going on and that's when I felt like that day I was like oh this shit got to end this shit week
Starting point is 00:52:55 I'm glad you talked about it because we definitely wanted you to ask me about anything about how it can end how we can help it and all that so everybody hate this check in shit right I say check in
Starting point is 00:53:08 call in tap in it's in the same category whichever term you want to use it's still the same thing it's important that you do that. I do that. When I go to Atlanta, I call my name.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Hey, bro, I'm here. Where are y'all at? When I go to New York, I don't call the rappers from New York. I call the Crips that are from New York. Hey, look, I'm going to come in. I'm going to go deal with Dave East and all them, but I'm staying over here.
Starting point is 00:53:33 What's up? I go to Houston or anybody I know. I tap in anywhere I go because everybody politics is different. And they love us, but they also don't like us because we think we run everything everywhere, when it comes to the gang culture. So what I did find out is he felt comfortable
Starting point is 00:53:51 because that wasn't his first time. He didn't been there 20, 30 times already. So he's comfortable with going over there. I still feel like he probably didn't let nobody know that he was going over there because he felt like it's cool. I've been here this many times. Ain't nobody did nothing.
Starting point is 00:54:05 I probably know people. And something happened. But you just never know what people be getting into behind the scenes because then they're trying to bring out all these clips of him, getting into with different individuals, which I don't know nothing about. But as far as that, he should have had somebody there, though, with him. Especially when you bring your girl and your kids involved, even though his kids
Starting point is 00:54:25 went there, but when you're grilling your kid, that's the number of wrong rule. It's they safety first. I don't care if I'm good in a certain hood or a concert. Who don't even like for us to bring our women around unless we know it's a controlled environment, right? So because guess what we got to do I can't be Eastside K-boy The rapper I gotta be K-boy The nigger
Starting point is 00:54:48 I mean who is protecting his woman And I got to make sure that she's okay And whoever she brung So now I end up turning into the personal body yard But that's what I'm saying Like this is where I'm saying This shit gotta stop Not just for gangbangers
Starting point is 00:55:01 Just for this period Just black niggas in general Like what the fuck are you niggas Doing what do you want You want my chain You're bad because I got gotta fly fit on like you hate no i yeah you're like that's cool like you can have some type of jealousy some type of envy but you want to kill me like you niggas this shit is getting out of hand like i
Starting point is 00:55:25 know the south central even you know everybody every good is bad but we killing each other like off crazy like the police ain't got to kill one or two niggas you feel right here bro some mentality yeah like niggas niggas is tough self-hate that's why i said in the beginning We only do it, we taught. Nigger, if your mama taught you how to put on your shoe right shoe first, you're going to do that for the rest of your life, because that's how you was taught. If you have to put on your sweats and we teach
Starting point is 00:55:51 our kids, you got kids, I got kids. If I told hey, put your right foot in your sweats first, that's how you put on your pants, they're going to do that. So the new cableway coming, and the image is changing. Is the mess is changing? Are you telling niggas that shit? No, man, shit like this is the biggest thing that you can do because they tell me this all the time, man. I'm getting
Starting point is 00:56:09 better with it. I've got to learn. They're like, bro, you're a shallow rapper, but you're a deep individual. So the conversation that we have in, people are going to be surprised that. I'm probably talking like this and I'm giving up so much information and all that. They're probably like, damn. Yeah, I'm not ignorant. I'm not dumb. And alone shot, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:56:25 But at the end of the day, I still did dumb shit and I made dumb decisions before. So I feel like life is a learning experience and you, nigg, experience is the biggest thing ever. I got shot, right? So you want to talk to me about it. You know what I mean? I don't put that nobody. Somebody else got shot. You shouldn't talk to a man that just is great at doing lectures and talk to them.
Starting point is 00:56:46 You want to talk to me because I've been shot. I'm going to give you this game and this experience that I went through. Hey, man, this is how you can probably go out to heal. These are the medicines they're going to give you. This is what you need to do, all that. So experience is like something that you can't teach. You have to go through something. So, yeah, the new K-boy is telling everybody like, yeah, bro, that shit is weak.
Starting point is 00:57:04 This is stupid. You know what I mean? And it's sad, though. I'll tell a nigga, see safe. Stay prayed up, and I love you all in one sentence. Because it's crazy like that. You got to do all of them. And watch your ass.
Starting point is 00:57:17 That's the new saying. Now, explain the new caveway to me, you know what I'm saying? You from the east side. Young nigger, fired up, side of star rapping. Shit happened to you. Get shot. Brother got killed. Still cripping.
Starting point is 00:57:34 This crib. You know what I'm saying? Depressed, suicidal thoughts. All the shit bring you down. You pick yourself back up. You know what I'm saying? But explain a new K-boy and what you're doing now, you feel what I'm like to let this motherfucking industry know you come in like in the real way.
Starting point is 00:57:54 What I've been doing lately is I got this whole situation with Shockware. So the new K-boy is more business-oriented and learning that everything don't need a reaction. Like, you know, it's the Internet world. Just because somebody say something on the internet, I only got to go back at them. I ain't got to prove nothing or anything. So they can say fuck, hey boy right now, you ain't. I'm going to laugh. I might put the laughing mode.
Starting point is 00:58:20 I mean, no, because the internet, they might say fuck, hey boy, but then if they don't press that button, they start pressing other buttons and they try to get to shit that really hurt you. So how do you, like, how do you react to that as a new gay boy? Because you can't, you really can't react to the internet. really can't. And I don't take the internet lightly. Like a lot of people say, man, it's just the internet.
Starting point is 00:58:44 It's just for fun of the game. Now it's real. We watch niggas die on the internet. We watch niggas die on live. Watch niggas get shot on the internet. A lot of internet things are driven to niggas getting killed. Right. But guess what?
Starting point is 00:58:55 That's everybody responding to everything. If you're talking to me right now and you ask some questions, I don't say nothing, this ain't no interview. You're just talking. Yeah. It ain't no interview. And it's not going to get put up. Because it's like, what the fuck did you even come for if you ain't going to say nothing?
Starting point is 00:59:11 So everything don't need a response and a reaction. And that's cool. That's that K-boy. That's learning that. Because sometimes I get fired up and I still be wanted because I'm human. But like I said, on the business aspect and rap, yeah, something rapping. But the message do got to change. I'm still going to give you harsh reality because I'm still in the ghetto.
Starting point is 00:59:30 I still see a lot of things that's happening. So I'm still going to report that in the type of music I do. I'm not glorifying. I'm just reporting what's going to. going on. I'm not saying that I'm necessarily doing it at this moment, but I'm seeing that happen at this moment. So I'm learning how to articulate that better. And like I said, I'm learning how to be more in-depth musically instead of just being this type of person. When you see me and had this conversation, we had this dialogue, then it's like, damn, bro, you really think
Starting point is 00:59:56 like that. But damn, when I heard this record, you made me think that you was out here, nigger knocking all your eyes down. It's not like that. I'm just telling you from experience of what's been going on. So the business, K-boy, which I got back to the Shaka where they believe in this black man. I went to Shaka bro for a billboard and t-shirts. That's what I went for. That end up turning into me being the creative director for Shakaware. That means anything urban or creativity I have input in and urban goes through me. You cannot have a meet with these owners without coming through K-boy. And even when we sit down at the round table, they always say, we're going to talk to K-boy and we'll get back to you.
Starting point is 01:00:36 That makes me feel great. They trust me. They trust my opinion. They trust my thought process and everything. We got a lot going on over there. So it was just a warehouse. I came over there. I had a vision.
Starting point is 01:00:50 My vision is being put it to fruition right now at Shaka. So I'm about to do a podcast over there. We about to have a basketball court. I got the white wall where I started some new platform for rappers. So if y'all need another platform to come on, it's called the Shaka style, where you come up, you do your freestyle like everybody else do,
Starting point is 01:01:09 push your single that you push it right now, I get you on the show, you know what I mean? So I started that. They built me an office over there, bro. What are you doing, what are you doing as far as music right now? In music. Let me stop you,
Starting point is 01:01:25 because I've seen you on, niggas bringing you out on a couple, you know what I'm saying, stages, doing your thing, crib walking, you know what I'm saying? I still got my walks. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:01:35 my nigga, walking on stage again. This is a happy time out here. I feel about my walks, but musically, I'm in a good space, man. I got three offers right now. I probably had like one and a half when I was young. I got three offers right now, and there's not no little boy offers,
Starting point is 01:01:54 but we still got to make the right decision. So, you know, I mean, you know, me and poop and going back in front with some good people, man, to see how we're going to put this music out. But I really just been doing a lot of music, bro. To just, um, so when I'm ready to let this motherfucker come out, people are going to be, they're going to be like, damn. And they're going to love it too, bro.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Like at the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end, I'm a little older now. But I still, I still mess with these young dudes. And they fuck with me. So that's cool. So I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to keep this balance. Yeah, because do you keep your image like a little younger? Like, you know, because like YG, like YG changing with the times as far as his image. Like, my nigga fly.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Feel me? Little crop on, you know what I'm saying? Like, would you ever go that far doing that as far as you're in it? I'm not doing that. Why not? Why not? Cutt get your shit together. We'll see what it do.
Starting point is 01:02:46 No, no. But look, I'm going to wear a drop shoulder t-shirt. Get your fashion cracking. Yeah. Look. The shoe game is Louis, yeah. You feel me? The shoes is Louis.
Starting point is 01:02:57 You feel me? Yeah. And I'm just representing the brand that that's helping me be an extraordinary black business, man. So everything I got on in shock and, you feel like, from the T-shirt, you thought these were Levi. These shock of jeans, crazy. Oh.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Yeah. Yeah. They come in with some quality shit, too. I ain't going to lie. They got the shit. They got the shit. They got great quality, though, bro. But musically, um, you're going to be excited when I drop, and y'all going to be like,
Starting point is 01:03:24 oh, we need this. Because I feel like it's a space that's missing, especially in L.A. I know people want to have fun. You know what I mean? People want to dance and all that shit, but everything ain't fun. Life is not fun. So what space you think you're going to fit in? I feel like I could spin in a face, well, fit in the space rather that I can have a balance.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Like I was just saying this on my live the other day, right? I'm a positive person, but you need to start your core, right? You need a battery. You got to put it on the positive and a negative. Without that, the car is not going to start. So same thing with life. You got to have some balance. What artists out here right now you think got that balance?
Starting point is 01:04:04 Out here? Yeah, that's just, you know, like, you know, the West Coast is. as far as these new artists, don't. Yeah, I can't say the homies. I can't say the homies because they're like, dotting them is just, he's on the whole of the world. Yeah, it's over with. So right now, the niggas that's coming out right now, the new artist.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Oh. I'm always giving niggins a flowers because that type of a nigga I am. I ain't nobody. I never gave me my flowers. I shouldn't say nobody name on this damn interview. If it was up the pool, he'd be like, he'd probably outside like this right now. Don't say nobody. I mean, but no, you just said, Kaelin, for real, for real?
Starting point is 01:04:35 He's doing his thing. Not, Kalin, that's a little bro. He's doing this thing. He's doing this thing. I really like Blass, bro. Blass album is ridiculous. We've been on Blass forever since he's been a young thing. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:04:47 I told him, Blass, is it cool? I'm still a little bro you? Can I little bro you? Yeah, you're doing your thing. You got big man, big man, big man bank accounts. So can I little bro? He started laughing. I was in the studio another other day.
Starting point is 01:04:57 But I really like what Blass is doing. Zo, on some east side. Zoh, someone, you know, for the east side. I got a push it for the east side. I had a cut in here doing this thing. Yeah, we were chopping it down. He got a turtuck. Man, I got two homies from my section that's about the pop.
Starting point is 01:05:13 You know what I mean? Tiny Gotti and Lil Let Loz. So, man, look out for them. I got two little homies from my section that's going to get cracking. Cud name is Little Let Loose. Yeah. We fuck with you Little Let Loose, cut. I'm laughing, buddy.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Yeah, that's turked up, homie. But you know who I want to work with, though. Yeah. Everybody think I know him. I said this is another interview. So, bro, you reach out because I know everybody around you. I know niggas from your hood and all that. I want to fuck with Beano.
Starting point is 01:05:40 I think Beano hard. Beano's hard. How do you not come in contact with this nigga? Man, I don't know. He must be moving the way I need to move because it looked like he reachable, but it ain't. Because I don't know the niggins. I'm surprised. I know he got a note of me, bro.
Starting point is 01:05:53 It's like, if you're from that. I reached out. I'm like, man, come up here. I want to fuck with you. You know, I'm like, what you doing? You know, good my good people. He answered like, shit. I'm chilling.
Starting point is 01:06:00 And then I was like, I'm going to come with me and interview me. And he just like, shame on. you just stop answering. No, but everybody saying, I know a lot of niggas around him, so I think going back to the question where it's a balance because he's doing his melodic thing,
Starting point is 01:06:16 but we know where he's from too, and he's still keeping it, you know what I mean, gangster for his culture and for his section. So, but, man, look at his shows, man. Sold out. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:06:27 And on the, on the Hispanic side, because they're cracking right now. Like, the Spanish cracking. I think I'm going to start doing, like, EPs with the, them like I ain't even going to lie to you bro these niggas crack it in their own space pop up what's the money sign sway
Starting point is 01:06:42 he hard, swiftie blue he crazy that's my nigga though everybody didn't like his interview but I said bro he was telling the truth he ain't saying he can fuck with niggas yeah he just said what I need to get signed of them for you know what I mean so you agree with that so you agree with my nigga coming on here and saying I don't want to sign with blacks
Starting point is 01:06:58 man I don't have no problem with it because guess what he probably like look we got the labels too We got independent labels No, I'm gonna just really tell you You niggas the truth You black niggas You niggas don't know what the fuck y'all doing
Starting point is 01:07:13 Half of the time, you know what I'm saying? We probably like fuck that Yeah, like, nigga, what the fuck I ain't fucking with you, niggas man Guess what though? Guess what they do have that We always be lacking structure Yeah And niggas know that
Starting point is 01:07:25 And I ain't even meant to the pen But my homie's telling me, brother You should tell me all the time They got structure You got to the county You can see it right there Like what the fuck Structure, right?
Starting point is 01:07:33 Yeah So even with this, you could tell they move with structure. Like, look at all these people. Look, man, they were selling out by their self. We don't really do that because guess what? When you go to a blast concert, it ain't 80% nigger anyway. Tiger, it ain't 80% nigga. Kendrick, it ain't 80% nigga.
Starting point is 01:07:51 So what are we doing wrong? So that's what I'm trying to learn as an artist too. What am I doing wrong not to let them join my world? Because right now I just got the ghetto. You feel? And that's good, too, because I love my heart. people. But at the end of the day, we want everybody to come in, you know what I mean, to get some of this East Side K boy. I want my shows to be like that too. Me fucking with Tiger.
Starting point is 01:08:14 When you don't see me fucking with her, what's the first thing that come to your mind? Realistically, since you're my boy, that y'all don't fuck around. That is tension. That is the problem. Who you think started it? I ain't going to lie. I think you did, girl. Y'all niggins is crazy, bro. Like, what? But you were the most genuine ones niggas I know, genuine people that I know. Come on. You cool as a motherfuckings fan.
Starting point is 01:08:41 I told you changed the whole dynamic of the energy when you came in. Me and all my folks, we're talking about serial killing movies that we were watching. Jeffrey Dahmer and stuff. You came in and had everybody cracking up. So your energy is great. I love it. People don't know T. Realman, he's one of the dopest people in the world. But, yeah, nigger, you probably was like, Nick, what's that with you?
Starting point is 01:09:01 groove, you ain't trying to lean. You're standing with you. You get out of the perception of us, man. We cool, man. That's crazy because that be the perception of me, and I'd be like, I'm the coolest nigga in the room. You see how I changed that up, though? I'm sober.
Starting point is 01:09:16 So when I'm in the club, everybody thinks I'm tripping because I'm sober, because I ain't everybody, everybody, oh, popping shit and I, and I'm like this, because I'm like, oh, y'all don't see. It's 17 niggas that just walked in and whatever we're throwing up, they don't like it. But I'm sober, so they think I'm tripped. Okay, boy, man, why are you not smiling?
Starting point is 01:09:31 the man everybody comes in man you always tripping no i'm sober that's all that is sort of perception i'm just wow now i'm really the coolest nigga in the room though you were you one of the coolest niggas in the room now i mean y'all just probably had a disagreement that really you know what i mean it ain't my business but i put it to you like this from what i seen outside looking in ghetto ass nigger from where you from got an opportunity to travel the world you don't rap at all you made the best out of your situation you started businesses You got the shit cracking with your wifey. Y'all became an item where niggas is like, goals.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Y'all couple goals. Beautiful children. Big-ass house. You feel me? All that. But I'm not saying that you didn't do it yourself, but I know by dealing with him, it got you the access to do what you had to do.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Because before that, the only access we had was the block. It was nothing. I didn't even go to the same. I didn't even go to San Diego, bitch. I was done for the night. No, you feel me? So, I feel like that you just, you know, you seized the moment. Now, what happened between y'all?
Starting point is 01:10:42 Can y'all fix it? I hope y'all could. But, you know, that's between y'all too, full life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't. I'm just asking because these motherfuckers here think I'm like, I'm some fucked up nigger. But I'm changing, I'm changed.
Starting point is 01:10:54 But they're like, we got to watch this, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Loss, it's because you vocal. When you vocal and you blunt. people always think, niggie, that you're just a terrible person. Yeah, like I tell you, I'm gonna keep bringing them up. I'm a Gemini, nigga.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Yeah, you know, you're crazy. Yeah, I'm a Gemini, you feel me? Yeah, it's gone. But, you know, as far as the music, man, have you ever stepped into the studio and be like, you know, you're trying to use your relationships for a verse, you know, this motherfucker, he's a little bigger, and he's bigger now.
Starting point is 01:11:22 You've been knowing him and the motherfucker tell you no. They don't tell me no. I don't know why they don't tell me no. but sometimes it ain't have you know you know I can get a verse from anybody yeah I remember back in the day nigg was like man this Nick K wouldn't get a verse from jZ right now they'd be like he you just put the wrong people on the songs they're like this nigga put niggie on the song was salsa walk just because you can yeah but uh they haven't told me no but I ain't got it so they did they hit me with the with the rapper shit no no no big bro for sure come on bro I got you I got you
Starting point is 01:11:59 That's rapper talk. But it's cool. I'll be like, look, everybody in different spaces right now. You got to remember, like, T. Real notice. Where the cameras at? T. Real notice. Whatever camera you're looking at. They're hitting you.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Before all your favorite rappers, your favorite rappers, it was me. It was Kay Boy. I was popping before all these niggas. But I know it's not what you did. It's what you're doing. But just remember that. So when they're in their different space right now, they're probably looking at me like,
Starting point is 01:12:27 oh, this nigga need us now. Yeah. Yeah, nigga. They say 2009 no more, nigga. Mark Ash. Yeah. Yeah. I got that, nigga now, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:37 But a lot of people just say, you know, a lot of people just use me for my street influence, man. And, you know, so they can maneuver. But, you know, it's a new day. You think you can adapt, though, to what's going on right now? Because it's streaming. You know what I'm saying? You got to hop on the Internet. You got to do your thing.
Starting point is 01:12:54 You feel me? No, we're learning. I have no choice but to adapt. I have no choice but to evolve. But we're learning. though because we still hand in head now i still want to give niggas of cd you feel me but we know what streaming yeah i mean so we just make them collected items you know i mean because that's what we come from out the trunk and pulling up to every swat meet and all that because i feel like
Starting point is 01:13:14 it's more valuable i think these niggas got it easy just like how we go back i i relate music in the streets the same right um the generation after me i feel like they got it easy the generation before me feel like my generation got it easy in the streets like ah man y'all ain't got a We wasn't even wearing red and none of that and then got slapped for all that, right? Musically, same thing. Like, bro, you ain't never had 500,000 people go to the store to buy your record. You ain't never had a million, but you never had 10,000 people. Imagine that.
Starting point is 01:13:43 That's what I'm saying. And I feel like if we took it back to that, they said, man, fuck streaming. We're trying to put CDs back in cars, CDs. I bet you all, everybody that's streaming well now, ain't even going to get that. It's easy to just go on there and just, first of all, what a stream is what? What, 10 seconds and so? I might not even like it, but I just gave you a stream. I actually have to like it and love it to go purchase it.
Starting point is 01:14:05 So I'm not going to the store on some maybe I might like it. Hopefully I'm a like this CD or this tape. Nah, you actually loved it or liked it. So that's why you're about to go spend your hard-earned money for that. Do you feel like you can kind of pick up where you left off? I mean, because I know as hard as a motherfucker. And right now, you got you in that, you know what I'm saying? you're in that circle like you're an OG motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:14:30 You know what I'm saying? And then a motherfucker called me up the other day. I got hot. I'm like, bitch, I ain't a lot. But I'm like, but I'm looking. I'm like, damn, I am old. Hey, one of my boys did text me like, what's up? I'm like, this ain't my real nephew.
Starting point is 01:14:44 I'm not, I'm not trying to be an unc right now. I'm not ready. You know what I'm saying? Don't put the unc on me right now. I'm cool with the big bro. I'm cool with the big bro. Yeah, like yeah, big bro me or whatever the case may be. But, you know, how you think you're going to get in.
Starting point is 01:14:57 there, man. It's not easy. When I say it's not easy because I just started over from the beginning so many times. But I feel like I'm in a great space right now. I just told my people like, look, bro, we're going to tap into our audience. We're going to make them core listeners, core fans, and we're going to deal with that. It's something that Nip said to Rince about having 10,000 loyal fans. you'll be all right.
Starting point is 01:15:28 It'd be all right. 10,000 loyal fans, you could probably make over a million dollars a year, bro. If you got 10,000 loyal fans between... How do you determine if you got 10,000 loyal fans? You're going to know, because if you put out something, you're going to see the mark.
Starting point is 01:15:43 The numbers don't lie. You're going to see the 10,000 threshold. Like, oh, it's always... We always knocking that 10,000, 11,000 mark. You're going to know, because the number is going to tell you. So if you know that, okay, I got 10,000 loyal fans, they're going to do whatever I say, which as far as buy merch,
Starting point is 01:16:03 come get this product, support whatever I'm doing, come out to this show, you're going to be all right. You know, back then, of course we want to be global. We want the masses to fuck with us. But we're such in a digital space
Starting point is 01:16:16 that look what to do, what's his name? Russell, look at him from the bay. Look at what he doing. He got a fan base where he do shows in this backyard of his mama house. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:16:28 And they come. Yeah, it's probably just 300 people, but guess what? I don't know how much the ticket is to get in there. They buying merch. They buying a piece of vinyl. And they paying for the experience. He ain't did no sold out, packed out shows with 10,000 people. He is becoming some type of dope, young, innovative person from the Bay Area where it's like,
Starting point is 01:16:52 damn. Now, I want to try to do something similar because he didn't already did the backyard. Now, what can I do where I can. invite like 200 people that I know that I can get those 200 people to come to deal with me. What's your plan? Yeah, I don't know yet. I honestly don't know. You haven't figured it out yet.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Not yet. I'm going to be honest. But it's getting there, though, bro. It's really getting there, though. And I just think that me using my partners that Shockerware is going to be beneficial for me because of the merch type of stuff, because of the clothing. Like, I'm going to get into a space where, you know, they granted me where they said, bro, if you come up with an idea, with a, with a cut of a something,
Starting point is 01:17:28 we rocking with it. Yeah. So that's dope. And I feel like that put me ahead of the game when it comes to being on the business aspect. Because music is easy. I can really outwrap all these things out here. So Poole. So if the music don't work, we're just going to blame Poo.
Starting point is 01:17:49 We blame you, cut. Get on your shit. You know what I'm saying? No, Poo got it cracking. No, we got it cracking. No, but just doing different things, bro. I'm just knowing that, man, there's nothing cliche about when they say, man, you need like seven to eight sources of income, bro.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Yeah. Music can't be the only source. But you see how goofy we are, people probably don't know that. This is our personality. Another thing is we need to be in front of these cameras, but bigger. You know what I mean? You know, I'm working on being a part of a soundtrack. I got my young homie outside right now.
Starting point is 01:18:23 My name is Stephen Young, one of the dopes singers that y'all going to ever hear you from New York. from the Bronx. Got my boy, K. Tuist, with him. He produced with him. He's a producer and engineer. Dope is he. They from New York, bro.
Starting point is 01:18:35 So it's like, we got some things in the work. He's actually doing the whole soundtrack. So that means I get to be a part of it. For a movie named Bosco, dude out of the comp. It's going to be real big. He got Tyree, Vivica,
Starting point is 01:18:47 all the top-notch people in the movie. So my boy actually doing the whole soundtrack. So we're getting into stuff like that. And just being a part of movies and trying to write screenplay. and being like that, I'm about to start some right now. I ain't going to give too much information where I'm going to just be dropping short films.
Starting point is 01:19:03 You feel me? Like, we're getting into all different type of spaces. Yes, music is one thing, but it's bigger than that. Like, man, I'm trying to just be one of these dope black entrepreneurs, for real, for real, bro, like a black businessman that really came from nothing. Now you can see that it's possible. Like, we have to change that narrative.
Starting point is 01:19:19 And everybody want to bring Nip up all the time, but we're not, it's like he left the blueprint and nobody's really paying attention to it. Like, bro, you can really be a businessman. Nobody really dealt and messed with his music until Bro passed away. And that's just the honest of God's truth except people like us, his peers that really was in his loyal fan base. But the world messed with his business savvy, though, for sure. Like, wow.
Starting point is 01:19:43 It was respected for sure. Yeah. So, I mean, if Bro left the blueprint and he didn't make it up, he watched, you know, the founder fathers before. Like the masterpiece and all that, like the E40s, the game. The game has, you know what I mean, the game is to be sold and be told And all that type of stuff But man, when you give the game up, bro,
Starting point is 01:20:01 do not be selfish, man, give it up That's somebody that's under generation Know that it's possible to make Something out of your cell, bro. And we don't have to always got to play ball Or rap, you feel me? Being the businessman is dope. We need more businessmen, we need more doctors,
Starting point is 01:20:18 we need more lawyers, we need all that. We need more engineers, we need more coders, we need all that. We need a nigga than own a no jumper. You feel me? Oh, God. For real.
Starting point is 01:20:29 You're looking at him. No, I see it. I think Adam gave you the keys. Yeah, he gave it to me. You in 80 and I'm proud of y'all. He gave me a couple keys. You get to open up a couple of these doors here. Yeah, AD got a few more keys.
Starting point is 01:20:44 I got a couple keys. We in this bitch, though. You feel me? No, but no, for real. I'm proud of y'all. I'm proud of me. I'm proud of y'all because y'all made something happen. And I'm proud of AD too because he's like,
Starting point is 01:20:52 he rapped too, but he like, man, I found something else. That, you know, because at the end of day, it's about changing our situation. And if rap wasn't changing our situation fast enough, he dove into something else. And, man, like I said, man, he got a beautiful family. You know what I mean? He gets to drive nice whips and all that. Man, that shit is motivating. We shouldn't want to take another niggas chain and his car and all that type of shit
Starting point is 01:21:14 because he got it. That should be motivation to the streets to be like, hey, and I could do that too. Or if you really want to be better than them, motivated you should be better. Like, oh, you got the Rolex song? I need a paddock, nigga, you know what I mean? Yeah, okay. Yeah, my nigga got the beam around side. What shit, nigga, I want the Lambo.
Starting point is 01:21:33 I shouldn't be like, yeah, I won't show keys. I won't show watch. We got to get out of that. That shit old now. Yeah, we got to get out of that. Yeah, that's your old now. So, but, you know, before we get out of here, you feel what I want niggas that really know, you know, what you're doing now, you know what I'm saying, where they can find you.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Like you said, I know you already explained it, but, you know, get these niggas of social links and shit. So, you know. East Side, K-boy, man. Make sure you add the East Side or from the K-boy. Instagram is E-Side underscore K-boy. Everything else is the East Side K-boy. Man, I can't, I'm not hard to find. You know what I'm me?
Starting point is 01:22:07 Man, I'm out here. When they say I'm outside, I'm really outside. But I'm outside handling business, though, bro. So, man, I'm on a different path. I'm really for my people. And, you know, I want the East Side to win. And I'm doing this for the East Side. The whole East Side, but really my section of Lobos, man,
Starting point is 01:22:23 where I'm from, man. Gilbert, Lindsey. park. I'm doing it for all my people right there because, man, it just looked like nothing is possible. You feel me? Just, you know, from somebody being in the area and I'll be looking at my little homies and I'm like, man, they got so much more time, but they don't think they do. So when they see me do stuff like this, and I know they fans and no jumper and all that, I know I can motivate them to do something else. And everybody don't rap. Maybe I can motivate them and be like, you know what, I'm going to go back to school, man, and give me a trade and try to start my own
Starting point is 01:22:54 business so that's what I'm here for me and I'm for my people you know I mean everything ain't perfect this ain't Pleasantville I mean this is the world so I don't think shit ain't ever stop but I feel like we can yell on like this motherfucker and slow it down yeah I mean I'm I'm here to try to help slow it down bro because there's too many niggas losing their lives for no reason I mean so you know you I'm my usually when motherfuck can on here I have a couple messy questions, but I ain't going to get at you like that. But, no, I am going to add.
Starting point is 01:23:30 It's cool, though. You ain't got to have say you ever beat up any rappers? Man, I ain't going to tell you who want me to do it. You lie like a motherfucker. If you tell me right now, you beat up a nigga right now, cut. Hey, I would have said it. You could just go back then.
Starting point is 01:23:44 Back when. Who you beat up? No, no. I need to, though, I know you beat up. Please tell you beat him up. No, if we did, I would have said it right now. So it could have been in the subtitle. So I could have went viral.
Starting point is 01:23:55 K-Boy, beat up. No. But I know what I, but you know what? I hope a lot of niggas beat up a lot of niggas. So if y'all watch a nigger, Kendrick and Dool-Daw can vouch for this. Yeah, somebody tried to put their hands on Musa in the club and Long Beach back in the day. And I got off first. Boom!
Starting point is 01:24:16 So, yeah. We ended that right there. Shout out to my T-D niggas. They know what's happening. I love y'all. Make sure y'all go go. Go to back old Figg, you feel
Starting point is 01:24:25 me, fuck with me Something for the ladies Go to Sosorella.com You know what I'm saying? Use my call T-R-E-L-L And yeah, you know I'm saying,
Starting point is 01:24:33 no jumper, nigga, we're up out of here. Go on. Yeah, he's so.

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