No Jumper - King Neeko on Growing Up in LA, Blaxican Heritage, Prison Life & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 Put the ops down under like a wombat. We broadcast like Comcast on the world's coolest podcast. Yo, Patna Player, S.A. Lush, Uno. And I got a very special guest with me today. Literally, to me at the moment, my favorite person on YouTube, an amazing personality. Dope rapper, quiet is kept. If y'all don't know, you're going to find out. My man, King Nico, what's good, Carnal?

Starting point is 00:00:30 What's up, Perro. Hey, thanks for having me, bro. Man, it's been a long journey, bro, and, you know,

Starting point is 00:00:34 when you reached out to me, it was definitely good vibes during that conversation, bro, and, man, I'm happy I came, bro. No, absolutely.

Starting point is 00:00:42 Especially, you feel me, Valentine's Day. I know, I know the lady, you feel me, like, that wasn't good.

Starting point is 00:00:49 But the good part was, you know, she was there, you know what I'm saying? Perfect timing. Perfect timing. God moment right there. I was like,

Starting point is 00:00:57 hey, hey, hey, we good? We good. I was like for sure. Luckily, it's a no jumper, right? Like if it was Billy Bob's backyard podcast, it might have been different. I don't want to speak down on anybody, but you're right.

Starting point is 00:01:11 Yeah. You feel me? Yeah, bro, this is definitely that platform, you know what I'm saying? That you don't want to pass up on. So like I said, numerous times already, bro, prior to getting here and now, bro, I highly appreciate you, bro. No, and I appreciate you pulling up. Oh, shit. It's love.

Starting point is 00:01:26 So for those that don't know, you are born and raised in. East Los Angeles, East Los? So I was, I born in L.A. And we lived in the Pueblood projects for a while. Okay. So you're from South Central originally. South Central. Then we lived in Huntington Park.

Starting point is 00:01:46 And then we moved to East Lowe's SGV area, going back and forth. And I'm saying. But where I really, really, you know, locked in with myself, you know, and I really fucked with it. It was in East Lowe. So, you know what I'm saying? And that's what I represent, you know. And I think that it's pretty obvious by looking at you.

Starting point is 00:02:06 Although, like, people got a lot of misconceptions. There's actually, you know, in Mexico, there's people of all different complexions. There's people that are whiter than me and probably darker than you, right? Definitely. But typically when people think about Mexicans, they're not typically as dark as you. And that's because you are mixed heritage. You are black-sican, correct? Yeah, correct.

Starting point is 00:02:29 And is it your pops is black and your mom's is Mexican? Yeah, yeah. So my heifah, my hefita, she's from Delicia Chihuahua. Okay. By the Loa de las Mananas. Okay. And my dad, he's from New Orleans, Louisiana, 17th Ward, from Holly Grove. So they met in Eastlos, you know, and I'm black-sican.

Starting point is 00:02:48 But yeah, you're right about that. When I was in prison, actually, there was this one doctor I met, when I was on a doctor's call. And he was like, you're Afro-Mexican. I'm trying to tell him like, I'm black. He's like, no, no, no, I know what you are. You don't have to explain to me. I was like, no, hold up. He's like he went, bro.

Starting point is 00:03:07 He printed some like 17 pages, bro, of Afro-Mexicans. And it was interesting, you know, I read them all and shit, but I was like, that's dope, bro. But I'm black-sican, bro. My mom's Mexican and my dad's black. They met in Estelae, and they had me. And he was like, ah, that makes sense. You know what I was like, yeah, bro. But, but yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:29 There's a lot of dark, dark Mexicans, you know what I'm saying? And then, you know, with everything that happened and, you know, the African-Americans, I got left in, you know... From the Transatlating Slave Trade and all that. It was at the time, you know, like, yeah, you know what I'm saying? That small percentage made, you know, a lot of African-Americans Mexican when they birthed kids, you know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah. And it's actually, look, I got numerous homies that are of your same.

Starting point is 00:03:59 background and typically and this isn't across the board what I've noticed is although like for example Shats of my home girl RX Marisa from Compton

Starting point is 00:04:12 she's just like you except for her pops is Mexican and her hepha is black which you know is more uncommon I would say but she like she's like a pretty she's like mixed down the middle culturally like she speaks fluent Spanish

Starting point is 00:04:28 goes to Mexico all the time has tapped in with her roots on that side and it's also like you feel me very culturally black as well I noticed and I don't know if you agree or disagree that a lot of people that have your same mix in LA tend to be like they'll be more black culturally

Starting point is 00:04:44 but you I feel like it's pretty mixed but you know like you like you say you roll homie you feel me like you rock with the essays you feel me so it's like what was it like growing up. Did you feel kind of pulled in multiple directions or?

Starting point is 00:05:02 No. Well, I didn't, bro. I think, you know, like you're saying, under other individuals, you know, a majority of people that are mixed that happens. But I think it's because that that's like probably what they see or where they grow up like me. It was like contrary to that. Like I was in, you know, Huntington Park. It's predominantly Rasa, you know what I'm saying? And then I was in East Los, you know, in the areas and my household in. general is just rasa bro like my hefa my abolita they don't descanse in pas they don't know english like that you know i'm saying so if i want to eat in the morning you know i'll be like hey i'm hungry my oldie what you're talking about right oh tingo amre so you know what i'm saying

Starting point is 00:05:45 and then my tios and tias will come over you know what i'm saying and they're rasa bro you know what i'm saying with the wotas and the sombreros you know what's up we we go to the rodeos bro so it was really like it was like not just learn behavior it was like what it was my culture you know what i'm saying like i would i would like um tap in with my dad and every week every other weekend you know what i'm saying but it was not like that 24-7 you know what i'm saying hey we're gonna wake up at this time we're gonna we're gonna bless ourselves we're gonna do this we're gonna go to church amisa you know what i'm saying it's a certain way i was raised so when i was and not just that just the the older people the Cholos, the gangsters or whatever, they were a certain type of people, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:06:28 I wasn't really exposed to that. So when, you know what I'm saying, I ran into like encounters on the streets. It was like, I was kind of like, like, I was hit. Like I was shocked, bro, because I was like, bro, I'm just like you. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? And they're like, no you're not, bro, like, look in the fucking mirror. Bro, I'm like, excuse my language. No, you're good.

Starting point is 00:06:50 Look in the mirror, bro. I'm like, what? And then, you know. I'm saying. Like, it started causing problems when I got a certain age, bro. Like, when I was little, it was just like my half-fah was going through shit. You know, it was not really me. But I didn't even really pay no mind to it, or she would jump in, intervene, and take care of it.

Starting point is 00:07:10 You know what I'm saying? My half-a is the strongest woman, you know, I've met, bro. And I don't say that because she's my mom, you know? God bless. God bless her, bro. And so I didn't notice this shit, but as I got older, you know, I was walking around. around and you know I don't mean that much older. I mean like 12, 13.

Starting point is 00:07:27 Like dudes are like he's old enough to knock off. Right. And we'll be all right. He's gangbanging age. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? He's eligible for this bullet here. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:07:37 So that's when I was like, oh shit, it's an issue. And then it was like some sort of an issue until like, you know, then I went a prison. And then it became like, like, you know, a different issue. Like, hey, bro, okay, so now you got to choose who you're rolling with. And I'm like, what the fuck? What are you talking about? Because I got homies in the streets, but we're not on that.

Starting point is 00:07:58 You know, we're running around tagging all stuff. Right. You know, having a good time, bro. Like, it was not a good time when we're living in the shit. But, you know, it's not, like, getting ready for prison mentally. And we're going to get into all that. But I want to hear more about your upbringing first. One thing I noticed, I really like your record taggers that you got.

Starting point is 00:08:18 And for me, like, I'm a little bit older than you. I'm 41 years old. and grew up in West Lowe's, born and raised. And, you know, my era was like near, like Baldwin Hills, Culver City area and all that palms all through there, yeah, yeah. My dad lived out in Culver City. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah. I grew up right outside of it, like, in that whole little West Lose area.

Starting point is 00:08:45 It's just like where, yeah, you feel, you're born and raised out there. And we, my generation, it was tag bank. you know what I mean like in tech and like we started out just being taggers and then at a certain point tagging on the wrong walls and you feel me in people's vortios and they start pressing you and all that and gang politics and then fools wind up having to you know turn it into more than just graffiti and it becomes so I like I know exactly what you're talking about with that and that that that song resonated a lot with me so did you encounter and when I grew up in L.A. was very racially divided and there's a lot of, like, racism

Starting point is 00:09:25 is right on the heels of the L.A. riots, the Rodney King verdict and all that. So, like, did you hear, like, straight up, like, racial slurs said to you about, like, from your own people, essentially? Oh, yeah, most definitely. Yeah, yeah. I went through a lot of stuff like that, you know.

Starting point is 00:09:42 And it was, like, since when I was younger, you know what I'm saying? And I didn't really understand it until I got older. And I was like, damn, that time that that shit happened, they were talking about that, you know, but I didn't understand at the time, but yeah, I definitely went through a lot of shit like that. From, um, even like, as an adult, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:10:00 Like, I'll be in different neighborhoods and I'm, I'm very like, I feel, I feel good, like being around Rasa, bro, even being me, you know what I'm saying? Like, always, bro, like, you always catch me where there's nothing but Rasa, and I'm just, hey, con permiso, hey, psalmezzo, you know what I'm saying? And everyone's like, what the fuck? Bro, he's good, bro. Like, they'll start looking around like, hey, he good. And I think like that shit.

Starting point is 00:10:24 Like this fool's a Mexican Tupac out here. What's going on? Yeah, bro. Like that shit's the trip. But I would always like, there was times that I'll be in certain Vardros, bro, and they'll just, hey, F and man. And I'll be like, oh, man. Like, bro, when they flip around, like, I'll be like, well, haina sometimes, you know. Right.

Starting point is 00:10:45 We got to go. Like, nah, I'm good. Like, don't trip. I just look. It's a long story. The homies will pull up and I'll be like, I'll walk up to the. the car and it'll be cool you know what I'm saying right they'll be like oh shit spencer bro right I'm saying and then the heinous will be hey you good damn bro that's cool so I can walk around with you

Starting point is 00:11:02 and shit bro like it's just a trip bro like when sure like that will happen like the result of it but sometimes it'll result negatively you know what I'm saying like there'll be days that I'll I'll be in a bad mood bro or or these fools don't don't really talk bro they're just like oh there's a black dude you know what I'm saying and they just jump out and start taking off and you just got to take off bro like you ain't got to You can't be like, hey, a rastafool. Like, you know what I'm saying? They ain't trying to hear that.

Starting point is 00:11:26 Yeah, bro. When it's up, it's up. Yeah. So, you know, I definitely went through a lot of shit like that going up, bro. That's crazy. Also, like, at that age, that's when a lot of things become, like, defined as far as, like, if you're, obviously, when you go inside, then you really have to make that decision. but growing up in LA, there's people of all races that associate with gangs outside their race.

Starting point is 00:11:58 You know what I mean? Like, I know white Crips, I know white bloods. I know Mexicans from blackhoods, you know, of all varieties. And I know white Southsiders, white people from Mexican hoods from Vario's. And I know even Blackfools that are like, I've heard crazy shit. Like I've heard Blackfool.

Starting point is 00:12:21 from Mexican hoods that have beef where it'll be like that hood has beef with all black gangs, right? And I've heard them say racist shit about black people, you know what I mean? But they're black, but they're from a Mexican hood and shit like that.

Starting point is 00:12:39 I heard shit like that too. It gets real confusing at a certain point, but I guess it's like who you grow up around, right? Yeah, it's definitely that. It's definitely your mindset as well, bro. Like, I feel like, like me, the way I was raised, it was with my half-fired dog. So, like, I was very strong when I walked outside. Like, I was in, even as a child, you know, I was in easily manipulated, bro.

Starting point is 00:13:02 Like, I was, if anything, manipulating shit, because I had to make it home today. And everybody don't like me. So, uh, I think, um, shit, let's get back. What was the question, bro? Yeah, no, no. So basically, like, look, if there's certain hoods, right? Like, let's say there's a... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:13:21 So I did. I think, like, people, Spencer, I think people do do that because, like, they're upbringing, bro. Like, I've met people like that, even in prison or even in the streets, bro. Like, and they've said that, like, hey, them. And I'm like, dang, bro. Right. But your mom and dad are black, bro. Like, you're not even mixed like me, bro.

Starting point is 00:13:40 Right. And it's because a lot of the times, like, mom and dad could be absent, bro. You know what I'm saying? And they need that. Or they don't have that guy. or that strength or that knowledge, like, hey, you're supposed to do this or do that. So they just hear some shit like that and then they one time say it

Starting point is 00:13:56 and the homies is like, that's right, bro. And then they want to say it again because, you know, the homies. They're getting that positive affirmation. And it's also a little bit of self-loathing, like you said too. And you feel apart, you know what I'm saying? It's a lot of mental shit, bro, that plays into things like that, you know? And that's crazy. But I've even spoke to homies, bro, and I'll try to be like, bro,

Starting point is 00:14:16 but ah, you shouldn't think like that, gee? And you know what I'm saying? I've got through to some homies, bro. You know, they'll even clown about it. Like, I don't even care, bro. You know, it's just with the wool. But, yeah, I've heard some crazy shit. I'll be like, damn, I don't understand it.

Starting point is 00:14:30 But I think it's along those lines, you know. So, like, at the end of the day, even though, like, culturally, you're way more, Rasa. You got love for your black side as well. You feel me like. Yeah, bro. And it probably puts you in a weird position. And when it's, like, I remember, like, in particular certain sections, like, Northeast, LA and stuff.

Starting point is 00:14:48 it was like on site for all black people, even if they're not gang members and shit like that. That probably made you feel like crazy, like fuck. Yeah, hell yeah, bro. I'm like, no, I can't, you know what I'm saying? Like, thankfully, bro, you know, I was never put in some real, you know, like some shit like that, you know, where I would have to be like, hey, bro, that's in cause like real bad things like that amongst my own, bro.

Starting point is 00:15:11 But I have been in situations where we've got into it with blacks, you know what I'm saying? But it's not along those lines, you know, it's just like, hey there's just a bunch of blacks and there's a bunch of us and you know what I'm saying it just just happened like that but yeah there's yeah man so did you uh did you start getting in trouble at a young age what was like your upbringing like yeah bro so I was um when I was in huntington park I was good man when I was in um when I was in South Central Huntington Park when I was younger I was good my my half was always gone you know I'm saying like uh she's on she's undocke she was undocumented so she's working you know I'm saying and then she was going to

Starting point is 00:15:48 school she was doing everything to get it right you know so i was like like always assisting her with something bro like and it was dope because i know english from school and you know she's learning it so we learn shit together bro and is english your first or second language no i want to say it's like the same and the same okay yeah because we we yeah it's pretty the same but because my my alolita only knew spanish you know and then um as soon as i hit school though it was like English, English, English, you know. But yeah, man, it was cool when I was younger, bro, but when I moved to the Vias, I moved to the Vias, San Gabriel Vias, bro,

Starting point is 00:16:27 and Rosmeet. And that's really where shit, like, got crazy, bro. You know what I want to say I was, like, 12, 13 years old. Prime age for shit to crack up. You know what I'm saying? And it was, like, gang of homies right there that was just like, what's up, bro? Like, hey, what you doing?

Starting point is 00:16:42 You got some allowance? I'm like, yeah, perro, you know, like, about, about like, $7. right here. Why? Hey, want to go get some cigarettes? I'm like, see, I've been stealing them from my Mama G. Like every now and then, bro. I didn't know if kids do that. I thought it was only me. So, you know what I'm saying? And then I linked up

Starting point is 00:16:59 with the homies fool and yeah, after that was a rap. Did you at that point already know that you had a talent like for the music, for the comedy? I assume you've been funny your whole life. Because your humor to me seems just very natural. Like you don't

Starting point is 00:17:16 really be telling jokes. It's just the way you say shit and the way your mind works like defines your comedy quite a bit. Yeah. Well, music, bro, yeah. I want to say, yeah, I've been doing music for a long time. I want to say it started just like with poetry, like really me just being like seeing my mom going through shit, you know, with my dad or or in life in general and me not, you know, maybe it was a lot of shit inside that I would want to put out. So I started writing like poetry since I was little. And then me and my homeboy bang Luray, they call him Bang, Homer Luray.

Starting point is 00:17:51 That's who we started rapping, bro, like on little, on cell phones. We used to like put them on record and then we'll record the beat. And then we'll play the beat on one phone and then play record and then rap while the beats playing. You're doing like some jailhouse shit before you even on the streets, damn. That shit was like, you couldn't hear understand shit. But we was walking around the block, like, want to hear this shit? So one day my half-fuck came in, bro, and you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:18:19 She was like, what the fuck are y'all doing? And we told her, and she went a guitar center and put some shit on Layway. And, like, I want to say, like, probably like seven, eight months later, she got it out, bro, had me, like, a little studio. So I made hella tracks, bro, but start getting into shit, bro. But, like, sorry, like, let go on the music. What about, like, the comedy? Did people always think you was, like, funny?

Starting point is 00:18:43 Yeah, like the homies, yeah, like the homies and everybody I'm around. Yeah, they always thought it was funny. I think the comedy's more like my creativity, bro. I think it's just my creativity. Like, they didn't necessarily start, like, trying to be funny. I was saying the story, and then I noticed that the numbers went up, you know, so I'm like, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'm saying if that's what's working and keep doing it.

Starting point is 00:19:08 And it just, like, the way I am, I always, like, evolve, bro. I'm like evolution, bro. I'm like, okay, we could be right here, but what's next? What's next? So, you know, that's where I'm at now. Like, I'm just looking at apps and looking at, oh, you know what? I could do this. Hey, let me do this.

Starting point is 00:19:24 You know what I'm saying? It's nothing that I, like, jumped into, like, al-A-Lcien? Like, I was like, cool, let me, let me. It's just, like happening. What I'm saying? So there was never like- And people like it, bro. Right.

Starting point is 00:19:35 So I'm like, sheesh. You were never like, oh, I want to be a comedian or anything like that. Oh, no, of course not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I was never like, I want to be a funny guy. Right, right, right. No, I wanted to be an artist, bro. You know what I said?

Starting point is 00:19:47 I was making music, bro. Right. I was making hell of music. And I would, like, veer off and on, bro. But my nephew, Lost Jay, Huff was always doing music, bro. You know, every time I got out of jail, out of the pen, whatever, he's like, hey, uncle, come get on this feature. Get on this feature. And one day I did, like, some shit on Instagram.

Starting point is 00:20:07 And it got, like, a lot of, a lot of views, bro. I got a lot of followers. People start posting. I was like, damn, they like my music. So I just posted another and another. And it was just me and the phone, you know? Right. I was right there.

Starting point is 00:20:19 Bad quality Obama phone. I'm like rapping a little song, you know, uploaded and people was fucking with it. So I was like, damn, bro, let me just, and it just went, bro. That's dope. So, okay, you move to the SGVZ, doing your thing.

Starting point is 00:20:36 You're out there in the streets. You're running with, you feel me? Like, what them do? And at what point do you start getting in trouble? At that point. Right away. Yeah, right away. At first, it's getting in trouble with moms, you know?

Starting point is 00:20:51 I'm like, fuck, geez, it's fucked up. Never seen that side of her. And then it was like, you know, moms was crying and shit because the cops was coming to the house. It was like some crazy shit, you know? Like, I think the first time some shit happened, it was accidental, bro. Like, because we was always doing shit, but one time we was chilling with the homies,

Starting point is 00:21:11 I was with the homie looks, and I had a frajo, and I flicked it backwards, and then the tree caught on fire, bro. What? Yeah, bro. What the fuck kind of stale-ass tree is that? It was not my fault, bro.

Starting point is 00:21:22 It was a weird tree, bro. Like, you could, I don't know if you've ever seen it, you could punch it. Okay, yeah. It's very soft. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. You could, like, rip it. Rip the bark on.

Starting point is 00:21:33 I know exactly what you're talking about. That's the tree. So I just flicked it. My boy standing in front of me, and I look at his glasses and they turn orange and I'm like, what the fuck? And I look back in the fucking tree, dog. Like the whole tree, food like in five seconds.

Starting point is 00:21:49 That shit went up. There must have been some kind of motor oil or some shit on the, because that don't be happening. I'm telling you, bro, it was like surreal, bro. And yeah, so. So let me find out you an arsonist, my boy. Man, I'm glad I didn't get that charge. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:02 Yeah. When you go to prison, you know, you don't qualify for shit. That's not. That's not the type of charge that you want to have on your jacket. Yeah, they got you locked in. Yeah. So, okay. How old are you at this point?

Starting point is 00:22:17 33. No, no, no, no, no. At that time when you... Oh, I was like... I said that. No, you good. You got... I was like 14, bro.

Starting point is 00:22:27 Okay. 14. So you're 14 years old. You accidentally... Accident. It was mad, bro. Is this in your own neighborhood? It's in the V.

Starting point is 00:22:37 It's in the... in the Sangha Ravilla's apartments. Oh. Where I got evicted from. Because of that. Damn, you got your hepha evicted too? It was bad. Damn.

Starting point is 00:22:45 The cops went to my house, bro, and my mom was like, what you're going to do? I was like, I don't know. Are you? Like, why are we on the phone? She's like, you're good. I'm not snitching on you or nothing. I just want to know where you had. So you told your mom what happened.

Starting point is 00:22:57 Yeah. She was the wall. No, I didn't, well, they told my mom because the little kid that seen me said he was a black guy. So I was only me. and my little brother but, you know what I'm saying? At that point, we were still young so my brother wasn't running around as much

Starting point is 00:23:13 so they were like, it's him. Oh, fuck. Not it's a black guy. Yeah, it was a black, it was a little baby too. He was a little kid. He was like, I was like, the kid? I was getting like chips and shit.

Starting point is 00:23:26 He's a rat-eyed in her early Asia. Yeah, bitched him. I was like, dang. So my mom's like, they're here. They're looking for you. But it was cool, bro. You know what I'm saying? We went over there.

Starting point is 00:23:36 I went to the police department and shit So but what did they actually book you for then? Nothing. Okay, so they wasn't. You didn't wind up getting got up for it. Yeah, there was like, there's only junior deputies here. And I was like, me and Alma's, man, I was on that junior deputy. He was like my age.

Starting point is 00:23:53 I was like, bro, what the fuck? Go get the real deputy, bro. He was like, how the fuck did they got junior deputies running the damn police states? The only dudes in there, bro. I was like, nah, bro, like, I ain't coming back for this shit. My mama talked to me for 10 hours got me to come here, bro. Like, I need to see. My mom was on them too.

Starting point is 00:24:10 Like, nah, bro, we need to see what's going on. I was like, bro, I don't want to be running from some shit, you know. I've always been like that, bro. Like, I've never had, like, I'm not going to lie. I had a lot of warrants. But when I, when I, like, came out prison the first time, like, I can never have a warrant. Like, I was like, bro, I'm going to go handle this, bro. Like, I don't like that.

Starting point is 00:24:27 You're not going to pull a take hey. Yeah. I can't do that, bro. Like, I got to go take care of it and come out. No. Okay, so did you wind up going to Juvie at a certain point? No, no, no. So you were pretty much like just little things throughout...

Starting point is 00:24:44 And they'll take me to the police department or something. My mom will get me. They'll have me outside. My mom will get me. Yeah. There was just a lot of, you know, my mom will get me. None major, though, at that point. Yeah, no, I didn't get caught for nothing major.

Starting point is 00:24:57 Then... But at a certain point, and the reason why, for those of the people, might be like, yo, why is he asking about his whole criminal history? No, I'm not the motherfucking feds. I'm asking because the majority of this man's content right here is prison-based. And that's what, you know, he's a really informative, interesting takes on prison life. However, what I want to commend you for, a lot of people do a lot of things like prison-based, but they wind up inadvertently, like, snitching and giving information out the way certain things run.

Starting point is 00:25:30 You're very careful. Very. So, like, you make sure that the shit don't wind up getting exposed, but anything that's not really going to implicate anybody or change the way certain organizations operate, then it's fair game. You got to be, man. You got to be, you know, mindful of everything you're doing, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:25:49 Like, I've been talking to people, you know, about, like, a show and stuff, you know what I'm saying? And I've been very mindful of that as well, you know, and I'm like, you know, when we do certain things, we got to veer away from this. You know what I'm saying? You got to be respectful. You got to, like, it's coming sense a lot of times, bro. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:26:08 Like, there's things you can see on 60 days in and there's things you can't. Right. Pretty easy like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, we ain't doing, I ain't doing that much. You know what I'm saying? You can see some shit or, you know what I'm saying? Any YouTube video, you know, so.

Starting point is 00:26:23 And they don't really be focused on L.A. in California, them shows, right? Yeah, no. No, no. They're not really focused on those. They really can't, you know what I'm saying? They'd be in, like, Arkansas. They're being a weird ass.

Starting point is 00:26:35 Yeah, yeah. Like some places that the whole population is in jail. Right. That city is just a jail. Like, what the fuck is going on here? Everybody's related. You got siblings. You feel me making kids and everyone's in prison.

Starting point is 00:26:50 With a shout to all those states, though, man. No disrespect. With that being said, so when did you first, like, when did you first get arrested? What was that like? How old were you? Well, I was little, I was still a minor when I was getting arrested, but I was getting released, you know. But the first time you actually, like, hit the county and all that. Oh, I was just not a minor. I turned 18.

Starting point is 00:27:11 Okay. So it was quick. Yeah, I just started catching cases, man. About a few cases. Then I just never went to court, you know. Then I caught my real case. And, yeah, I had like about seven warrants, 11 traffic tickets. Okay. I was going to court like every day. They're waking me up like at 5 in the morning, bro.

Starting point is 00:27:37 Go to court. Sometimes I go to court and I'll go to literally from Monday to Friday. And then like on Tuesday and Thursday, the judge wouldn't see me. So I would have to come back like it'll reschedule me. But you got to wake up every day, 4 to 5.30 and morning. He was sick of seeing your ass, huh? I was like, no, it was different courts. Okay, okay.

Starting point is 00:27:54 I was all over the world and shit. I was like, I went there. They're like, nah, but there's no, there's no. there's no court in the city you were in, so it's there. Right. Oh, shit. All right. Okay, so what was, and then you went, the first time you went to the Pinta was,

Starting point is 00:28:13 was you were how old? 18. Okay, you went to prison straight when you were 18. Okay. And was that for like years or? They gave me 16 or half. So you did eight years? No, no, no.

Starting point is 00:28:26 They did me 16 months for half. Oh, 16 months. Yeah. Yeah, so I stayed in the county a little bit longer than I was supposed to. I did like a lower year. And a lot of people, like for those that don't know, would you say that being in prison as far as like the day-to-day operations and just your comfort level, it's like kind of better than being in county in certain ways?

Starting point is 00:28:46 Or would you say that's true or no? The living situation is definitely better. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, your comfort level is based on the person, you know. There's some people that want to be all like crazy. in the county, just living me Vila Loka. Then there's people that want to, you know, do their time and, you know, really reflect on shit.

Starting point is 00:29:06 And that's more like prison, you know, you're there, like, they have opportunities. They have, like, there's a lot of opportunity in there. So being so young when you went in and you're there with the big boys, right? Like, you, you went, like, I assume you're probably, like, on a level three or a level four yard or something like that, you know. Like, when I, when at reception, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:29:28 Like, so you're around a bunch of people that are doing way more time than you. And, uh, yeah. And you kind of had to learn. I mean, the counties, the counties, like, you know what really? Like, I was like, ah, what the fuck is this? Yeah. In prison, I was like more like, all right, is you could read it. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:29:47 You're like, all right. But the county is like, bam. What the fuck was that? Gee? Like, damn. I didn't even see that, you know? So the county really like, it was a trip, bro. Especially because I was, uh, when I was, uh, when I was that.

Starting point is 00:29:58 I got my first case, I was evading. I was running from the cops, so I crashed going like 100 miles an hour, bro. Damn. I was in a coma for like a day. I was, both my, my ankles were shattered. I'm talking about like this, bro. My ribs just fucking pop the top one,

Starting point is 00:30:15 two top. All this shit was white, bro. Like, for the hood I was dragging me off the freeway. Oh, they got you on the freeway? Yeah, well, I was running on the freeway, bro. It was like a 20, 15, 20 minute chase. Okay, we need this story from the jump street.

Starting point is 00:30:32 How come they was on you to begin with? What the fuck happened, my boy? The case is still open, G. For real? Nah, fuck that. Nah, fuck, man. Nah, fucking. So, man, it's a, let me, let me break the whole story down.

Starting point is 00:30:47 So I was working, bro, at a gas station. This is me and my homeboy verse. And he's working at us. He's working somewhere. He works graveyard and I work mornings. So I get to work. And they're like, hey, bro, you're not supposed to be at work today. So I'm like, fuck, nah, all right, feed him.

Starting point is 00:31:05 So I leave. I hit a verse. I'm like, hey, what's up, fool? He's like, what's up? You got at work? I was like, nah, I want to drop some music? He's like, yeah. So we go to his house.

Starting point is 00:31:14 I got like a gallon of vodka. Cheap shit, bro, like big. And he had like an 18 pack, so we drink. And we were like, hey, fool, after we dropped his last track, let's go to the block, full to the veers. drop off these CDs. So we go on the way there, we stop at the homegirl's house, the home girl Bunny. And she has a bottle for me, bro. So I get more faded, bro, and we get to the to the Vias. And long story short, I seen like some security guards there, bro. They were doing

Starting point is 00:31:47 some shit I didn't like, you know, we got into it, cops started chasing us. And, well, actually, I left the scene after what happened, happened. Did you y'all actually got you had in a fight with them or you just like yeah yeah yeah and um we bounced they start uh recording our license plates and shit you know when that happened uh we jumped on a freeway and this hooda pulled up on us and i remember his face i remember to chase vaguely bro because of how high i was bro you know and how drunk i was you know you're driving i'm driving the hood i pose up next to me i remember him he's a motorcycle cop he's like Pull the fuck over.

Starting point is 00:32:28 And I'm like, seriously? Fuck you. I was like, you pull over. Well, I remember that's the only thing I remember. Then I smashed on the 60 West

Starting point is 00:32:38 right there by the Manabella Ma. Smash west, bro. Got off, came back east. He's on you. He's on me at first. And then there's like a gang of cops on me. And a salon chase, bro.

Starting point is 00:32:53 And where I crashed at was... The choppers get on you at a certain Yeah, the choppers came, bro. I was hoping I had some footage. I was going to say. I was like, hey, man, somebody seen some footage? I was like, no, bro. Hey, but, yeah, man, I was coming from the 605 south, trying to get on the 60 West.

Starting point is 00:33:15 I know if you know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it curves, bro. Yeah. And back then, it didn't have like the guards, bro. So you just go over the edge, yeah. And I went in. And I remember I thought I was driving like a fucking.

Starting point is 00:33:27 NASCAR or something, bro. Like, I was, like, smashing, and then I just trying to go around this car, and I just remember looking at the car's face. Like, say we're boys going this way, so now I'm looking at you. And you're like, and I just went, I just blacked out. Damn.

Starting point is 00:33:42 I was like, shit, I woke up a cuff to the bed. But you apparently got out and started running on the free No, no. Okay. I was done. My boy said that the cops, because he was still conscious, he put his seat butt on. Kind of angered me. He angered you that he put his seatbelt on?

Starting point is 00:33:59 He was like, bro, relax. He was like, bro, relax. He's like, I am relaxed. I'm just saying, relax. I was like, I put a seatbelt on. I was like, bro, you know, we're going to get away. I took mine off. And I had it on, you know. You had a point to prove. Yeah, I was at that age. I was like, shit. And that's why I was fucked up, bro. He just had a seabill bruises, my boy. Damn.

Starting point is 00:34:20 He was good. I would have been good, too, but. Verse was smart. He was smart. And then, so then. So then he said that he said that he saw that. him dragging me. Okay. That's why I was,

Starting point is 00:34:29 that's why I have no skin here. Damn. Like, every day I would be on a pay phone, bro. Like, the homie would call me, Hey, Nico. I'd be like, what's up, and I'll look and my skin will just like fall onto my lap.

Starting point is 00:34:40 Oh. You know, like off my shirt. I'll be like, fuck. Damn. Okay. Fuck the police. Yeah, for real. I'm like, still, still.

Starting point is 00:34:48 I'm like, bro, this is fucked up. Yeah. They ain't have to do you like that. I was asleep. Like, what the fuck? Trying to have a nice dream and all that. They're going to interrupt you. Like, shit.

Starting point is 00:35:00 That shit was crazy. Do you remember what it felt like that moment when you woke up with the handcuffs on and you're like, were you just like? I was like, I think I was like, what is that? Like sedated. Yeah. I was like, and I remember my sister woke me up because she was my sister and my cousin, Anando. I remember my sister Lucy and my cousin, I was like, Nico, Nico. And I was like, because I guess I was, I woke up.

Starting point is 00:35:23 Yeah. So I look and I see them and then I knocked back out. But I remember when I sat up, my ribs pop. Like, they hurt a lot, bro. Like, I sat up and I was like, oh, shit. And went back to sleep. Damn. But I had noticed my cuffs.

Starting point is 00:35:36 You know, I was like, damn, this ain't good. That's crazy. So you wind up, but you do like less than a year, like nine months, eight months at that point? For your first? No, that was my first, because they evading. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. They gave me the 16.

Starting point is 00:35:50 One half. Right. But it's because all my warrants, I had seven warrants and 11 traffic. tickets. Okay. And then you wind up getting out again. Yeah. Back in the mix. Yeah. I thought it was cool. So then, you know, when you get out and you either, you think you're, you want to do this. And even when you want to do this, it's a struggle to stay doing that. Right. But sometimes you're just like, hey, let me tell you all how this was. So you had a little more juice. You felt like, you're like, okay, I'm like, loki, the man now. I have, I have a lot of homies that they was at that age, they're

Starting point is 00:36:25 trying to go to the Pinta because they know what... I met a lot of homies like that in there, bro. Yeah. There was like, hey, bro, I got this leg on my first term, right? The homie shot it, bro. He's good. He's over at Wutti Wu now. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:36:39 He's like, I got this one and this. The next term, I'm going to get the back. I was like, dang. Yeah, that's a thing. I noticed, like, a lot of fools. They own... I have homies that all their ink is from inside. And they won't even, like...

Starting point is 00:36:53 I'll be like, yo, you want to go get blasted? The homies doing tats. Like, no, I only, you feel me? Yeah, majority of my shit's from in there. And it's because, you know, in there, like, it takes you, it's a couple reasons, you know, you got time, you know, obviously. But, like, for me, bro, it took me away from reality. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:37:09 Like, I'll be focused on what you're doing. And then I would forget that I'm in prison and I'm not helping this person, that person. So that's why people get ink to fuck up, I feel, you know? Right. And you being, like, a naturally charismatic person, people are drawn to you. you and I've heard you talk about this and like a lot of your videos that like people like being around you because you had a good energy there's a lot of people in there that are I mean the majority of people I would assume are like pretty negative they're not really you know not to not

Starting point is 00:37:39 not to judge because you know you're right yeah yeah but like a lot of people tend to be negative and you because your energy is a breath of fresh air to people is it kind of difficult because you know you have to you're making friends with people but then you wind up getting separate and things like that. So did you kind of have to realize like, damn, like I can't be making friends with just anybody all the time and getting so close to people? No.

Starting point is 00:38:08 I didn't really have that problem because I feel like my, like, what is like, my mind is like, like I compartmentalize shit. Like, I could be like in close contact with people, you know, for long periods of time, bro. And no one is trying to cut it off. cut it off, you know, I'm like, it's trying to cut it off, bro. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna set you up the best as I can.

Starting point is 00:38:30 You know what I'm saying? But that's, that's what it is now. You know, and, but I know that I always, like, do what's from my heart, bro. So I know, like, I don't, I don't fall short. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, damn, bro, this is, this is all you can do, bro. You know you're doing what the fuck you can do. You know that.

Starting point is 00:38:49 Don't care about nothing else. If he, whatever happens, you know, it's not you're doing, bro. Like, you could, you would. you can't. And I think I don't go through all that now because I know who I am. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, all right. And I'm just, okay, all right. You know, if we cross paths, we do. I wish well. You know, but like when shit happens like that, bro, I'm just like, I'm like, I think I just put it somewhere and bring it out when it comes out again. Very wise. Another anecdote that you had, and I think it was a recent video, I'm pretty sure. And you were talking about how you had a homie that you were

Starting point is 00:39:24 real close with in there. And then at a certain point, y'all, he wound up not talking to you. And you were kind of like, yo, like, why is this dude acting different all of a sudden now? And you thought that he was like mad at you or that you did something to upset him. And you were like, yo, I'm leaving things out of the story. You're going to have to check the video if you want the full story. There's a few of these.

Starting point is 00:39:48 Yeah, yeah. But and then you were like, one day you start talking to him. You're like, yo, what's up, fool? Like, did I do something? like why why are you switching up he's like honestly i'm getting fucked up right now oh yeah and i don't want to the respect thing yeah and it like made him feel funny being around you when he was loaded and to me like that was like such an eye-opening story and like relatable because you know i got over three years clean and sober i don't do nothing i don't even smoke weed you feel me grass yeah like i don't do

Starting point is 00:40:17 nothing but you know i was a i was a bad addict you feel me fucking with pills fucking with the scotting day, everything. I command you on that, bro. Thank you. And, like, there's a lot of times when I'd be off the shits, I wouldn't want to be around my close people as well. Because you don't want them to, it just feels weird, you know what I mean? And people like you who got bright energy, I can understand that might be kind of weird

Starting point is 00:40:42 for someone that's in such a dark place to be around. Yeah, and there's a lot of, yeah. And that's why I think, you know, I fucked with a lot of homies in there, bro. Because, you know what I'm saying? Like, even though I was in there in the dark-ass space, too, like, me being a, like, I just remain a light, even though I'm in a dark place, bro. Like, I just can't not. I feel like it, like, brightens up my space, you know?

Starting point is 00:41:01 Like, and it was definitely a trip in there, bro, like, because, you know, we was going through what we was going through and shit was always how it was, you know, but. Like, I was very, like, observant, bro, and I would, like, move on, like, my heart, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'll see people and I'll be like, damn, bro. Like, the OG black story I said, you know, whole boy had a hot pot, you know what I'm. fucked up. Oh, yep. Seeing that one too.

Starting point is 00:41:25 Hey, bro, that's you, bro. Like, he was like, I was like, bro. Like, oh, order one. Life is out there. I'm about to go home a couple years, bro. Like, that's how, I think like that, like, bro, he's going to take you like a couple weeks to get a new one. But this food's over there tweaking on it, bro.

Starting point is 00:41:40 And like, he'd be stressed out when he says, you know, I paid, like, people are like, I paid this guy three times. I'm like, damn, yeah? $0.75 every time. Damn. I'm like, damn, bro. Yeah, 75 cents. But that's 75 cents in there, like, hit a little different, though, right?

Starting point is 00:41:59 To them. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? To the individuals that are, you know what I'm saying? They adapted to it. But, you know, there's other individuals like myself that are in there. And we have, you know, it's like our first, second time that our families are not like, hey, fuck you.

Starting point is 00:42:12 This is your 10th time. Yeah, I'm good. Right. You know what I'm saying? And we have that. And but still, a lot of people don't do that, bro. And like me, I would give back. You know, I mean, I would give, like, I don't know, bro.

Starting point is 00:42:24 I just felt like it was needed. And a lot of the times, though, like, it sparked that. It sparked something out of those people, bro. Like, I later on, I would see them, and they were even shy about shit, you know, like, you want one? Yeah, bro, good looking, gee. You're sharing? It's Karen, bro.

Starting point is 00:42:40 You know what I'm saying? They'll be like, fuck up, nigga, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, I got a homie, ernie, bro. He's from, he's about a beat somewhere, man. I got a bad memory. But I was, he did like 17 years, bro. He's getting married, bro.

Starting point is 00:42:55 So he's out? He's out. Okay, shout to Ernie. And we did like three years together, you know, and then took a while in and shit. And he changed, bro. Like, he showed me a lot of good shit in there, bro. Like, there's good people, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:43:09 And I showed him a lot of good shit. And to this day, he's like, hey, bro, like, commend you on certain shit that you did or you stood on, bro. Because, you know, jail is like crazy, bro. and sometimes you gotta watch, like, I'm friends, though. Yeah. Especially when they're not your friends, you know? Do you feel like that people because you're like such a,

Starting point is 00:43:31 you have a kind soul. Is that fair to say, like, you got a kind? Even though, like, not to say that you are a punk by any means, you like, you did your shit, you feel me, you bout what you bout, but you got a kind heart. Yeah, that's why I had that song, Mama's Heart. Right. Yeah, bro.

Starting point is 00:43:45 Right. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's, my half I raised me, you know, like, that's, But do you feel like people try to, in those environments, exploit that and take kindness for weakness? With people, with certain people. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It depends on your reactions. Right.

Starting point is 00:44:00 It's going to define not yourself too, but the ultimate outcome, bro. Like, you can't entertain shit a lot of times, bro. But, yeah, most definitely, there's people that try to get over on shit like that. But when it, you know, I'm not going to, it even happened, bro. You know what I'm saying? And I'll be like, hold up. It's like stop the shit right now, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:44:19 It's not, but yeah, I think the way that I carry myself, it really, like, it doesn't allow that to happen. You know, like, I sense shit. Like, I'm going to be like my fucking spider sense is tingling right now, bro. All right, bro, like, we, I'm going to have to, like, turn this shit up a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Because I know people, how people are, too, you know what I'm saying? And a lot of people, it's ugly sometimes, you know, like, people is like, they're like sharks, bro. Like, they see a little bit of this and they're like, okay.

Starting point is 00:44:46 See a little bit of that? Okay. And when I see that, I'm like, okay. fuck this like a lot of your stories have a recurring theme of you trying your best to avoid the bullshit

Starting point is 00:44:59 and you'll be like really like I gotta do this like when your voice gets the little high pitch thing you feel me like but at the end of the day you're like fuck it like if the when the bullshit comes like you're gonna run that fade

Starting point is 00:45:13 you gotta take a DP you feel me whatever it is like yeah you gotta take care of it you're not afraid but you at the same time, you're not looking for that and you're trying whatever you can do. It's just, I feel like I'm just equipped

Starting point is 00:45:27 with like a little bit more logic than people. You know what I'm saying? Like, if like, the way that I am, I give, I do, I this, I'm that, I'm in the spotlight. And if I, like, look at everything and, you know, react on everything,

Starting point is 00:45:43 I'm gonna die. Like, that's what my mama taught me. Like, you can't fix the crazies, miho. Remember that shit. Like, when people, come in your motherfucking way, then whatever. You got to keep going by any means. But, you know, nobody can stop you.

Starting point is 00:45:56 You don't let nobody stop you. But you can't fix crazy people, bro. Like, you know, we'll be in the streets and you'll see somebody. You know, especially me with my mom, you know, we'll be in the car. And I'll even act a little extra, you know what I'm saying? Like, what fuck this fool looking at? You know what I'm saying? And mom would be like, hey, like, relax.

Starting point is 00:46:11 You can't be doing shit like that. Like, he's fucking looking at you because he's crazy. You're all right. Like, you know that he's fucking crazy. Let his crazy-ass go. You know what I'm saying? You know if it gets there, what will happen, what can happen. You know how to defend yourself.

Starting point is 00:46:30 That's not the point, though. You're not supposed to allow somebody to let you. You're not supposed to allow somebody to take you out of your energy, out of your space, bro. Like, then you could be a fucking millionaire and be doing living your life. And then this fucking dude that traveled the world just to come tell you you're a piece of shit. You're going to let him tell you something? Like, come on, bro, you better take that shit somewhere else I'll get a fuck about you.

Starting point is 00:46:53 For real. That's how you got to think, bro. Like, don't let that shit bother you. Even, like, even when in person, if you just think, you know what I'm saying? And I'm pretty smart, bro. So, yeah. Seems like a lot of your moral compass was dictated by your mom, and that's dope that you got that.

Starting point is 00:47:11 You feel me? Yeah, my mom is, man, she's powerful, bro. I'm telling you, I've been, like, you know, a lot of my songs I speak on shit, you know, things that I've done in places I've been and I just, I know how to be, bro. Like, I'm in places that people are not because of who I am, bro. Like, I just know how to be. You can't be that right here.

Starting point is 00:47:29 You can't. Right. If you want to be stuck right here, then by all means, be that. And there's always going to be someone tougher or more gangster, no matter what. Anything, bro. Like, that's on one of my songs, I'm like, people see the ugliest. Then they want to be it. Right.

Starting point is 00:47:42 What the fuck? Yeah. That's dumb as hell. Like, you're just going to keep going and it's going to get uglier and uglier. Like, you got to have a different minds. Something I always heard and I liked it. It was like, everybody's a gangster till the gangsters show up. You feel me?

Starting point is 00:47:54 Like, really be like that. You see shit like, yeah. See shit like that? That's why people are like, yeah, I'm a... That's me. These fools are the this and I'm the... You know what I'm saying? I'm the tough one.

Starting point is 00:48:05 Yeah, yeah. Like, that's how the... That's how the mentality is, bro. Like, I'm the real tough one. That's why I'll be like, you could be the real, whatever you want. Just stay the fuck away from my fucking little shit right up in here. Right.

Starting point is 00:48:19 You know what I'm saying? 1,000. People with me right here. I'm like, I'm, my family, bro, like, just stay the fuck away and we good. Like, that's how you got to. And then if you bless people on the way, you know what I'm saying? You see what you should and shouldn't do on the way there, bro. Absolutely.

Starting point is 00:48:34 It's common sense. Now, a lot of people have misconceptions about what life in prison is like. People that have never experienced it, they have a lot of fears. As, you know, you should have fears about you, nobody should want to go to prison, right? No, you shouldn't. You should be scared. Yeah. Now, like, a lot of times people talk about, you know, there's, you go in there and you might get extorted.

Starting point is 00:49:02 You might get your ass beat constantly. The big fear, obviously, you might get sexually assaulted. You feel like, these are all things that can and do happen to people when they get locked up. What would be your advice for somebody that, why, you know, why you know? of getting caught up, is about to have to do a bid, and they're scared to go in there. Just be yourself in there, bro.

Starting point is 00:49:25 I know you don't want to go, but just be yourself, Z. Like, that's going to be your best, because especially if you've got, like, some little bit of time, like, how long can you really pretend to be that? You know what I'm saying? So don't act hard is what you say.

Starting point is 00:49:39 Just be yourself. Like, if you, of course, you're going to have to be, you're in prison, you're going to have to be a little bit more of this, and a little bit more of that, but just be yourself. You know, you know how to speak louder. You know how to, um, ball your fist.

Starting point is 00:49:53 You know what I'm saying? Right. Just be yourself, bro, but just let people, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's not just body, it's not just talking this body language, bro. Like, but stay yourself, you know, remain humble. If that's you, if not, then be fucking you. Don't try to be chill if you're crazy. Like, be fucking, like, I'm not trying to say, like, you know,

Starting point is 00:50:12 going there and fucking shit up, but you got to let people know, like, where your mind's at, bro. Right. If you try to, like, impersonate something that you're not, like, eventually you're going to get tired. You're going to slip. And in prison, you don't want to be slipping. Like, you know, it's like, it's not the worst place. The truth is going to come out.

Starting point is 00:50:26 Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, you can't. You got to, like, just remain yourself, bro, the whole time. It'll, it'll get you. And then you go through all this shit and you wind up doing a few different terms in prison. Two. Two terms. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:50:44 Then after what, at what point were you like, I'm over this? I need to change my life. What was the catalyst for you? My second term, I was in prison and reception still, bro. Delano and my abolita, bro. She basically raised me, man. It was my half-file, my abolita. But my abolita was there a lot of the times because my mom was, you know, at work or at school.

Starting point is 00:51:09 So she passed away, you know, when I was in prison. And she was 98 when I went in. And I turned myself in. I knew I had to do three years. So I was like, all right, man. She's going to be 101 when I get out. That hurt me, you know what I'm saying? Like, me asking myself that.

Starting point is 00:51:27 So I was like, fuck. I was like, all right, we're going to do visits. You know, and then we try to do a visit, bro. And I had just got out the hole in the county. Because this dude, they don't like us. him. That fool had me just a dumb-ass shit, right? So I got out and then my

Starting point is 00:51:47 grandma couldn't come in, bro, because her ID was expired. She's 98. They should have let grandma slide. Whoever didn't let my grandma in, bro. That's some asshole shit. I don't know what's wrong with you. But... For real. I'm saying? So they didn't let my

Starting point is 00:52:05 grandma come up, bro, and I couldn't see her. And then after I got up the whole, I seen that visit happened and then I went straight to prison. So, um... And that's upstate somewhere. So you're not, she's not, it's hard enough for her to even go downtown, but...

Starting point is 00:52:23 Yeah, and there's like three months, like three to like nine months, usually in reception, right? That you get no visit. There's no phone calls, nothing. So I was like, fuck. So I was like, hopefully I make it out in like the first month or two of reception, she passed away. And I was like, shit.

Starting point is 00:52:39 That kind of sucks. Sorry to hear that, you know. I said, bro, I appreciate that, man. That kind of, like, sparked the fire in me, you know. I was like, bro, you should be out there, you know. And then my mom tried to get me to go out to the funeral, but because I was in reception, I wasn't classified yet, so they couldn't take me out.

Starting point is 00:52:57 So I was, like, devastated. I was like, fuck. And then, you know, a couple things happened, bro, throughout my term, like within my family that I felt like I wish I could be there. And I was like, damn, bro, you need to fucking. do something about this, Nico, like, you need to change your way. It'll be slicker to do something. So I, like, kind of, like, got on the school shit.

Starting point is 00:53:18 I was like, dude, I'm going to start getting my high school. You know, so I didn't get the high school, but I got the GED. Came out, dog, and... That's crazy, because, like, you seem like you're really well-spoken. Like, I would have thought that you would, like, graduated high school back in the day, but not even. You never got your GED until what, like your late 20s, basically then? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:53:41 My second term, I was like 24. Okay, okay. Got it and then, yeah, man. Actually, I got that and I came home and tried to do the school thing. I'm saying, but I went a real hondo for a little bit. Did a couple. Actually, I did a couple semesters, bro, and I did pretty good. I had like a 4.8, 4.0.

Starting point is 00:54:06 Okay, okay. I'm like, look at that. That's nothing. That's nothing. I'm just light work. But yeah, after a couple of semesters, I just fell back into the shit. Damn. I got out here real quick.

Starting point is 00:54:19 Okay. I learned a lot of shit, bro. Okay. I want to talk about, like, the new life that you wind up cultivating, but I think that people would be curious, like, what's like... I have a beard off a topic of it. No, no, no, no, you didn't. You didn't.

Starting point is 00:54:34 You didn't. I want to, I just like to do things chronologically. I do want to hear if there's... just for the people that don't know, like, what's that you can talk about? What's, like, one of the craziest things that you seen or experienced a story from when you was inside?

Starting point is 00:54:54 There's a few crazy. I think one of the, that was some crazy shit, like, the first time I hit prison. It was, um, I'll stay one in jail, one in Prince. I was in the county, and these cops just fucking, like, came and, like, snatched this dude out, bro,

Starting point is 00:55:06 like, and just, like, beat the shit out of him. Bro, like, like, for real. Bro, like, I think he died, bro. For real? Like right in front of you. Right in front of us, bro. That's my first time, bro, like, going in there. And I'm like, they're like, they called his name.

Starting point is 00:55:19 He's like a vacho. He's a white guy. Yeah, yeah. He's like, whatever his name was. He's like laying down. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm over here. He's like, no, I'm over here.

Starting point is 00:55:29 He comes. Who does come? And he's like, you're wutiwu? He's like, oh, I thought you said this name mistake. Bro, they went in there and just fucking beat the shit out of him, bro. And these are CEOs? These are CEOs? These are sheriffs, yeah.

Starting point is 00:55:42 Okay, okay. And it happened right there in a, you know, in reception. Yeah. You have everybody that, you know, you got people tripping out, handcuffed to the middle. Damn. You know what I mean? Like, throwing shit on it everywhere, you know what I'm saying? It's crazy, bro.

Starting point is 00:55:55 Like, I think with L.A. County reception is like the craziest shit. I remember this dude, like, there's something on the floor, like wasted on the floor, bro. Like, it was 30 of us inside a tank, bro. Yeah. Like this from here to there, bro. Just like sardines, basically. Yeah, bro. And he just, and so his people start deepening him.

Starting point is 00:56:15 When he took his shit on the floor? Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, bro, we can't even fit. Bro, you deepening him right now? Like, it was crazy. That fool probably was holding it for hell long. He had no option.

Starting point is 00:56:26 He was yelling at the cops. Like, I need to go. He was homeless. He's like a homeless dude. Yeah. Because we had just got in. We just got off the bus. And, but yeah, bro.

Starting point is 00:56:37 And then in prison, bro, like the first time, too, when I got there, I remember some shit was happening, bro. like it's another race but they were like handling some shit and they were like hey just make sure you you uh come back this way soon as you get your food i was like all right and then i didn't think that like i just went bro and they just start quacking this food bro like this other dude bro like in chow you know what i'm saying and they're like oh this is why you said leave let me get out food but i was taking my time bro yeah yeah you know what i'm saying and it just happened so fast bro like you know like they're just like hey this fool um something

Starting point is 00:57:11 happening so just be careful all right just get your shit and go and they don't really I didn't really get warned like nothing you know I'm saying it's just like my boy like they did careful come back after like cool and then we're going they just started taking it I was like damn gee

Starting point is 00:57:26 you should have told me gee I'm like I mean he did in his own way he didn't gotta tell you like yeah yeah because too you don't need to know everything you know what I'm saying like you don't want to know shit you got to pick up on those little clues that people get you gotta be fast so I was like shit yeah you gotta be fast you gotta adapt quickly

Starting point is 00:57:43 do um you've definitely told a lot of stories about like your racial ambiguity and people like being confused by you a lot you feel me be like damn like is he with them is he with them and that it's like do you like so because you roll rasa is there do you find that

Starting point is 00:58:04 some black homies look at you like damn like fuck this fool he should be with us like how can you Yeah, most definitely. That was like, um... What the fuck is wrong with this guy? Yeah, it was a couple people like that, bro. Like, they're like... They would just be dogging me, you know,

Starting point is 00:58:19 from the other side of the door. I'm like, doing push-ups and shit. Like, yeah, bro, I see you. I see you. I'm like, what fuck? And then, especially when other blacks would come up to me and be like, hey, what's up, Nico, man?

Starting point is 00:58:31 Hey, my black ass ain't man. What's up, bro? Yeah. Yeah, what's up, Pedro? It'll be like, and, like, I'll look over and I'll see them, you know? Like, and then as soon as they walk back over there, they'll be like, why you're chilling with that before?

Starting point is 00:58:42 Tell them some shit, you know? But yeah, I definitely seen shit like that, bro. But a lot of the times, like, it was just like the unknown thing, you know, just like, why? Like, why are you there? And then when I'll chop it up with certain people, like, there was a few situations. And they're like, damn, that's crazy. So your mom's really Mexican. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:01 Yeah, motherfucker. She's Mexican. That's why I'm black-skinned. Oh. Okay. So your grandma, she's from Mexico. I'm like, yes, bro. They're like, ah, it makes sense why you like that.

Starting point is 00:59:15 Like, it's a trip, bro. Some people just, it's the unknown, bro. Like, they don't like you just because they don't know you. Like, it's like, fuck, I don't understand that, so I don't like it. And I can relate because I don't know if you know what race I am. I'm white, you know what I mean? But, like, I grew up in a predominantly Latino area, so I've been around Mexicans. My whole life, I have a lot of black homies.

Starting point is 00:59:37 people have used words that they use for for white boys that fuck with black people you know what I'm talking about like I've heard all those words and I and I think that at the end of the day people just they don't know how to it's what people do when they meet somebody is they try to categorize them because it makes their mind feel at ease if they can break somebody down and like I do the same thing we're all guilty of it and it's like especially if you're from a big city you move fast you got to figure out people quick and I think that I think for me... I didn't even never think of that. You know what I mean? I think a lot, but I never thought of that. Yeah, well, I think that people aren't able to put you in a box. So it trips them out because they're like, yo, how could we wait, is he this, is he that? Why is he over here?

Starting point is 01:00:23 So they just have... So then because they can't figure it out, it's like a computer overloading. And then they're like, you know what? Fuck this guy. Right? Yeah, bro. Something like that. And that's like what happens with me.

Starting point is 01:00:37 they're like, yo, this white boy, but he's with the Mexicans, but he kind of tried to, he uses like these words and he kind of sound like he tried to be black too, like, fuck this fool, because they can't figure me out, you know what I mean? And they think I'm being disingenuine, but it's really like, this is the way I grew up, this is who I am, like at the core of my being. And I think that we probably have that in common in different ways, but, you know. It's like this, this, this, and this equal to me. Right.

Starting point is 01:01:04 It doesn't equal nobody else. like, you know what I'm saying? Like, just me. Yeah. It's just you, you know what I'm saying? Right. But that's like, especially like in environments like county, like prison, where it's, you have to go with this group and be with these people. And these are politics that have existed with the intention of keeping people safe, really, for many, many decades.

Starting point is 01:01:30 But it winds up, things aren't always so simple. Yeah. Things aren't always so simple. And it's like when you're in situate, when you're a complicated person and you're thrust into situations where people try to oversimplify things, it could be very, very confusing. Yeah. So during that last term, you kind of had a resolve within yourself. You're like, I'm not going back. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:01:56 And then you definitely. Like that I want to say like the last year, I was like, dude, all right, you really need it. You've been talking about you want to do school and you've been, you know what I'm saying? working out and this night, but you really need to get on your shit. And the last year I was like, dude, I'm going to take these tests, bro. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. And I really got on my shit, bro, and I came out with that mindset.

Starting point is 01:02:17 But then at a certain point, you come home, you still got the same homies. You know what I mean? Like, they have the same expectations of you in certain ways. Yeah. And you've been conditioned since you was a little pee-wee out here to be this certain way. Yeah. What was different this time? And are you scared that you might slip up

Starting point is 01:02:40 and still wind up having to go back again? I think this time, bro, I was just like, I took a lot of advice, bro. You know what I'm saying? I didn't think I was the big dog. Like, especially when I was in prison, I listened to a lot of homies, bro. And they had a lot of good advice, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:02:58 They would be like, hey, Nico, like, you need to get on and do your shit, bro. Like, you need to, you're smart fool, you're this, bro. You're that, bro. Look at what the fuck you're doing. right now. Yeah. Bro, come on.

Starting point is 01:03:09 Like, you need to fucking listen. Nah, bro. And I was like, you know, and then I'll start listening to advice that they'll have. Like, you should get out and do this and do that. And it like really like, I think that really like empowered me, bro. You know what I'm saying? Because I was like, damn, they could never get out, bro.

Starting point is 01:03:24 Like, and they're telling me what to do. And that's, that's this motherfucker's strong, bro. Like he's telling me to get out and do my shit. And he don't even know me like that. Like, I'm going to get out and do my shit, bro. and not just that you know my family bro my age bro you know what I'm saying everything dog like it's not cute anymore you feel me at a certain age like and and even hearing people you know I'm saying like hey the first time bro you know what I'm saying no when you get out you're only gonna be

Starting point is 01:03:51 25 bro don't chip or when you get out you're only gonna be 36 right oh hell no what the fuck you mean you only gonna be 52 you only gonna be 60 you still got like a good 20 in you like come on perry you be right here. Stop, bro. It's like a lot of things, you know, like I paid attention different, bro. You know, and I was like, I'm good. And, you know, a lot of things did help me, but I slipped up too. Okay.

Starting point is 01:04:18 I think, you know, my grandma's prayers, bro, you know, and faith, bro. You know, I've just been getting blessed, bro. And at a certain point, too, like, there are a lot of, they say Misery Loves Company, right? And there's people that are going to be in bad situations forever. And they kind of, they want to. bring people down to their level. And even if it could be people you care about,

Starting point is 01:04:40 it's something I've had to learn. Like, there's people in my life that I love, but I know I can't be around them because at the end of the day, they want to bring me down. Yeah, most definitely. You know what I mean? And it's difficult to. It's crazy.

Starting point is 01:04:51 It's sad, man. It is. It's real sad. Especially when, you know, like, you feel like those people, y'all should grow. You know what I mean? Like, it should never,

Starting point is 01:05:01 they should never even be that, that thought. You know, like me, I wasn't raised. that way bro like i never see that shit so when it comes up is it concerns me right i don't really doesn't like i don't overthink it it just concerns me i'm like the fuck is going on you know what i'm saying and yeah from anywhere from family bro to the streets bro it's just like you gotta just you gotta always be aware that people just have those those emotions bro like i don't know why but yeah you gotta be aware and and at least try to understand it so you could

Starting point is 01:05:35 if and when, you know, it comes up or, you know, you know, where it's from or where it's stemming from or how to address it, bro. Because all these people, a lot of times it don't make sense. It really don't. It doesn't. It's like, what? Motherfuckers don't care about themselves. How can they care about somebody else? That's an answer right there.

Starting point is 01:05:55 And I'm like, bro. But then, yeah, bro. It gets slimy like that. Now, so I assume when you came, because, like, when you was inside, people knew you rap. and they, like, thought you were dope and all that. Oh, yeah. I was rapping for the homies and shit. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:06:09 It was dope, like, they were like, hey, fool, come spit that track, fool. Be like, again? Yeah, come on, that shit was tight. Even fools outside your race? Was it like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they'll be like, hey, you wanna spit with him? I'm gonna be like, nah, I can't do all that, but I can show you my song, gee. Yeah, all right, fool, like, let me hear it.

Starting point is 01:06:30 They'll be like, hey, on the street, we gotta collab, bro, but I haven't, bro, you know, there's one homie, uh, there's one homie, uh, the homie junior, Covina, that fool. I made a song with him in there, and I tapped him with him out here. He just seen him on Instagram. But besides that, I didn't really like, like, fuck with nobody like that on the music.

Starting point is 01:06:48 I'll just show him my shit. Right. But I'm sure, like, so you get out, you start going crazy with the music, you start recording a lot, and then you start making videos of just you talking, and they wind up getting a lot of attention. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:07:04 Do people, Have people hit you up from like that or seen or they tripping out like the homies from inside like oh look at this will Nico no oh yeah a lot of people bro There's been hell of people it's dope I even chill with a few of them you know like we go take it and shit yeah and um yeah it's hell of people bro they're like hey dog there's people still in jail you know they're like hey bro I'm still here g I'm like hey what's up bro like there's a trip bro like and as time goes by like more people just reach out bro like there's more people are seeing you're like there's a trip bro like more people just reach out bro like there's more people are seeing you or even realizing that's me. Yeah. There's people that are like, dog, I've been watching your shit for a year. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:07:41 And I didn't know it was you. How the fuck they don't know? They're like, Mahana told me that he's black and Mexican and he's from Honabello. East L'A area. I was like, wait, my friend, I was in prison with something. I'm like, bro, you went watching me too, motherfucker? Like, how you're like, fuck, that shit's crazy, bro. Like, as time goes by, like, more and more people are just...

Starting point is 01:08:03 What was the first video that, like, went viral for? you and shit. Like, how did it start? Oh, I think that, um, Taggers video. Okay. So it was an actual music video, the first thing, like. Yeah, yeah. Because I was making like those little, those little videos. That's the first time I saw you. Which they did for me. The shorts, right? The YouTube shorts.

Starting point is 01:08:24 No, it was like, like three years ago. Okay, yeah, yeah. Because the first time I saw you, it was, I want to say. A short. Yeah, and I want to say it was like a year and a half ago. something like that maybe like the shorts are going i was i was barely uh like making them better and shit and fun yeah and like oh shit these shorts are going yeah that's when i was popping popping but the music was the first thing really yeah most definitely that was the first thing uh like i was making those little videos bro and they were like cracking and i was like dang what the hair like

Starting point is 01:08:57 they want to just watch me rap then that's when i was like dad i got to get a camera i got to get a this I gotta get at that. Yeah. But the music, bro, took me from, Franz Free Game, too, G. The music took me from, you know, from zero to 5,000 subscribers, bro. And that was, you know what I'm saying, like a year of grinding,

Starting point is 01:09:21 bro. I'm talking about recording, shooting videos, editing. And that's not going to happen for everybody that want to rap. Like, I mean, you, the reality is it's tough. It is. It's tough. And you're actually, you're a dope rapper. You know what I want?

Starting point is 01:09:36 I'm going to put this in the universe. I don't know if anyone's told this to you before, but I need a King Nico Blue Bucks Clan collab. That's what I feel like would go crazy. I need a King Nico Blue Bucks collab. If that wind up happening, that would be nuts. I feel like the vocal tones would be firmaid together and you feel me. And I love your, now you have dope topics,

Starting point is 01:10:03 and I like how you'll put a little bit of the humor in there too. And I think that you can't even help that. Yeah, I can't, though. Yeah. You don't even try, I feel like. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, that's funny, how.

Starting point is 01:10:14 It is, really. It's just part of my style. And I feel like with time, I'll be able to express more, you know what I'm saying? Like, do you feel like, though, like if you didn't, if it was strictly just the music and you didn't have, Because I feel like it's difficult for a rapper to just, okay. No. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:10:34 If would it be, like, popping off? Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, keep it, gee, the music ain't even really cracking off like that right now. I think, you know, after this, it may get a little bit more publicity because it's, or, you know, people will know because it's, like, music based. Right. But, I mean, my music, my comments on the music is like, bro, you do music or, my nigga, you do music? Right. Yeah, this shit is hard, bro.

Starting point is 01:10:55 Why you didn't tell me? I'm like, bro, y'all don't even know who you are, bro. Why you didn't tell me? Gee, I'm sorry. I put it on the story. You know what I'm saying? Like, I try to show it. But, like, the fact of the matter is, like, people get, like, a real recommended.

Starting point is 01:11:11 And then people don't really search you, you know what I'm saying? Or they're not going to go to your page. They're busy, you know, so another thing gets recommended. So the music never really gets recommended. So, yeah, I never really got out. It's not really out like that, bro. I think, like, now it's climbing up. I mean, you got over 3,000 monthly listeners on Spotify,

Starting point is 01:11:29 which is like, you feel me? Like, it could definitely be bigger, but there's some people will never see that in their lives. And I know you're not spending money to get on playlist or nothing like that. That's organic growth, so. I didn't even know you can do that. Yeah, unfortunately.

Starting point is 01:11:42 Yeah. There's a lot of shit I don't know, bro. Like, this is like, it's really like, like it's therapeutic to me, you know? Like, I need to do something. Like, so I'm not stuck in my thoughts too much, you know what I'm saying? So I like, I need to make a mess up with a bus the track, do this.

Starting point is 01:11:56 And I look back and I was like, I got 3,000, Yeah. So listeners and shit. Yeah. But yeah, I didn't, I didn't, it hasn't really cracked off like that much. I've watched. I mean, I've been watching it.

Starting point is 01:12:09 And it was like not as high as now, but it was like kind of floating by like it is now, bro. But I think the skits definitely help. And now I'm like incorporating them in the skits, like the songs, bro. No, I see that. You'll have it as like the song on Instagram. You'll choose like your. And so. For me, I wound up, like I said, like maybe a year and a half ago or so, you started getting,

Starting point is 01:12:34 and maybe it's because I do watch a lot of prison content, you feel me, like, and I watch, like, you feel me, like, a lot of, like, Chicano, like, based content and rap shit. So, boom, a random short of you pops up. And I was like, I was like, okay, this dude seemed kind of like, he seemed interesting. Like, I don't really know what's good with bro, but you feel me, like, but then I didn't really really see much of you for a while then you started popping up like in my algorithm more and more and then maybe like that's youtube yeah yeah youtube shit so maybe like a month or so ago a couple months ago i start like i subscribe like i was like you know what and then i just start you feel me no no thank

Starting point is 01:13:17 you because that shit is very entertaining so then i kept watching i've damn near watched every video on your channel at this point you feel me like not straight up and at a certain point then I was like shit let me go bro's Instagram so then I go on the IG and I I'd see oh and I think this is why I did that is because I saw something about like your music

Starting point is 01:13:41 you feel me and I was like let me go like see more of this fool's shit and I was like oh okay and then on your Instagram you're really promoting the music way more and shit like that and it's like and I think that's the way it works for a lot of people and I'm hoping this gets a lot more light on you

Starting point is 01:13:56 and honestly what I want to do too is talk to the motherfucking powers that be about if you'd be interested in incorporating you into some of the segments over here like I think that you'd be fire like at no jumper you feel me like That'd be dope man Yeah I would love to see we'd be doing the news streams every day

Starting point is 01:14:12 I think that you would have some interesting takes Are you feel like you like Are you informed about like what's going on? You don't have to be by the way To do the news with us but do you feel like you're informed about Like what's going on in hip hop and things like that Not at all Not at all

Starting point is 01:14:27 I think my lady really like She puts you up Hey you're witty woo about this And I'm like Nah let's talk about it You know what I'm saying But Nah I'm not really like

Starting point is 01:14:38 Keep it G bro I'm busy man Like when I'm on social media It's like posting gone I really Yeah I haven't I don't really being So

Starting point is 01:14:49 So there's been A whole bunch of stories About rappers snitching I don't know if you're like And I know you I mean I see the the highlights, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:14:58 Don't look into them. Right, right, right. But I'm aware of this. As someone that's, you know, done a fair amount of time and all that, would you yourself be able to listen to, you know, people are saying gun is a snitch? Would you feel like, would you be able to listen to him? Or would you be able to listen to 6-9 or these different rappers that have either allegations or confirmed to be cooperating?

Starting point is 01:15:23 No, I wouldn't bump them. Yeah. I mean, I don't know, you know, about gun. I don't even know who is gunned. Okay. He's one of Young Thugs artists. He probably has. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:15:35 I heard about that's the Yassel snitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, keep it G, bro. I don't really bump people in general. Like, I like that much. Like, I really bump old school shit, bro, and whatever, like, the homies bring up to me. But, yeah, like, supporting artists that, you know, have snitch like that, you know, I can't do that. So it's interesting to hear that you don't have a lot of influences from modern hip-hop,

Starting point is 01:16:03 because you sound really modern. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, that's because, like, certain music that, like, my nephews, my brothers, you know, they slap in the car. My homeboy, a user, he's, like, a big influence, you know what I'm saying? That's, you know, he's, I go to, I pull up with him, and he's like, hey, bumping this and doing that. That's a crazy name.

Starting point is 01:16:26 Some hood names are crazy. User is a crazy name. Use them and abuse them. Yeah, bro. Don't get on users, bad sign. Yeah, man. That's a Wetto from Rosemead. Okay.

Starting point is 01:16:39 Okay. Yeah. That's the homie, man. And, you know, he puts me up on a lot of shit. You know, he put me up on King Von, Dranko, um, T. Grizzly. Okay.

Starting point is 01:16:55 It's a hell of foods that he's just like, hey, slap this, fool, slap this. But you more on, like, old school, would you say, like, classic West Coast shit? Yeah, my first song is, like, you know, probably be like a Tupac greatest hits track on there, you know, like, always on me and shit. Then I got to put shuffle, you know, because people are like, don't bump that shit, bro. But, yeah, like, I'm just stuck on that, you know. Like, my first influencers was, like, fabulous, bro, the ghetto fabulous album. Amazing, amazing album. The punch lines.

Starting point is 01:17:24 Because, you all see, you got the little punch lines. lines in your shit. That shit, yeah, bro, like, fabulous and then ludicrous. Okay. Word of mouth. You know, that shit was like, like, just what I was stuck on every day, bro, like Southern music. Right, right.

Starting point is 01:17:40 Yeah, and even to this day, bro, like, I bump all the old school shit until the homies come and, like, that, and my mind is like, I hear shit and I want to, like, I want to, like, um, like correct it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm like, oh, I hear this shit. I'll be like, ooh, I'm a do. that right there, ooh, I'm gonna do this right here, you know what I'm saying? Oh, I'm gonna ad live.

Starting point is 01:17:58 In the ad live, I should have said, you should have said this. I think like I hear all these people's music and then I'm just like, I, I get, I feel like, I get like those vibes, you know what I'm saying, and I'm just like, I go full, like, you know, if I want to put on like a real deep track, I'll put on like a Nipsey beat, you know what I'm saying, and I'll listen to Nipsey for a while, you know what I'm saying, and I'll be like, oh yeah, that's some shit. And my voice is like, I don't know if it's like diverse, it could like, It could do a lot, bro.

Starting point is 01:18:28 It's even a corrido I have. Oh, I need to hear that. Yeah, it's called El Corrido de Los Angeles. Oh, whoa, okay, okay. I'm gonna keep a G. You know, I did it in my little studio. I just, I just dug it out, bro. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:18:41 I didn't have no guidance. I didn't have no, no, just like, I heard somebody, and I was like, I could do that. I was like, let me try that. And I was like, get that out, bro. And I think that's why I try to make, like, different type of music, you know, Like, it's just on the beat.

Starting point is 01:18:57 Whatever beat comes on, like, I hear, I've heard something like that. And I'll be like, oh, yeah. And I just go. And it's like, like a lot of the music now, thankfully, you know, is being, it's being, like, inspired by new music, bro. And I need that right now, bro, because if I make 100 songs from now to, you know, to next year to the end of this year, bro, I think of new, of all new shit like my stilo is right now,

Starting point is 01:19:25 I think it's going to hit different. I think so, too. Those music videos behind them, bro, I think it's going to hit a hell of difference. I need to see that, Corido, too. You feel me? Yeah, like, because that's the thing. Like, I was about to ask, like, do you do, like, and I know, like, you'll incorporate, like, words and Spanish shit in your songs, but, like, I was going to ask if you did any Chicano

Starting point is 01:19:43 rap, like, straight up, but then, like, that's taking it a whole step further. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I just do, like, you know, like, I feel like my shit is just black skin. Right. It's just, like, you don't never know. know what I'm gonna say. Like, what I'm gonna do, bro. It's just like, this fool just did a fucking corido and the beat sounds, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's cool, like that, that

Starting point is 01:20:03 trending one. So it's like, I just, whatever I feel, bro, I'll just do it. You have flowed it. I feel like confident when I do music. Yeah, no, you're trying to sing. I could be trying to rap. I could be trying to whisper. I feel confident. Like, you know, like, oh, you hear this shit. You're like, you're singing? I'm like, yeah, bro. Like, yeah. You all over the place with it. What are your plans as far as, do you have plans as far as like taking the skits and the, the video, like the comedy content to the next level? Or is it all just kind of just going to be natural with it? Or do you have like a plan? No, I don't, I'm just, I'm just going with the flow still.

Starting point is 01:20:43 I think you have a very high ceiling, bro. I don't know what it is, like where it's going to wind up. But everyone. It's crazy because I, my bad, I spent. No, no, you're good. It's crazy because, like, I really have no guy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:20:56 I really don't, bro. Like, I'm really just out here, you know, doing my thing, you know, taking care of my family with my boys and making music and doing skits. Like, there's, you know, I've never had, you know, like, you know, I've been fucking with the homie AI right now. And that's the first studio vibe I've had ever, bro, in this whole time. So you never recorded in a studio or nothing? I have, but it was not like that.

Starting point is 01:21:27 You know what I'm saying? Like, we're in there, like, um, vibing, you know, smoking, drinking. Like, we got the beat going. Like, that's the first time. And I've been doing this for how long, you know what I'm saying? Right. And, like, I ran in, I'm talking to this other homie, you know what I'm saying? But I've never had, like, a manager.

Starting point is 01:21:44 I've never had nobody, bro, to guide me. So I feel like in the next, in the next year, hopefully, I feel like I'll get way more guidance. Like, people probably. like, you know what, let me fuck with this, dude. Because just in the beginning of this year, bro, like, I've been, like, chopping it up with a lot of people, bro. You being a fucking highlight, you know what I'm saying? It's love, honey.

Starting point is 01:22:05 I appreciate you, bro. And, you know, I just think, like, this upcoming year, bro, I'll get a little bit of, hey, bro, what the fuck you're doing? Why aren't you doing this? Like, hey, why aren't you doing that? Like, there's so many things you could be capitalizing on because I hear that a lot. Like, you're not doing none of this? I'm like, you're not doing none of that?

Starting point is 01:22:22 No. Well, I saw you just started doing, like, brand ambassadorships and shit, like, incorporating, like, the different things in the skits and all that. I just had the homies. I just had to shout out the homies more juice, Connie Rose. I just, I'm fucking with them right now, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, bro, like, like, things like that is, is what I have no knowledge to.

Starting point is 01:22:42 It's like, for 70 chili limes, you say, right? 70 chili lines, bro, like, come on, you should have said it. You know what I'm saying? Like, but, yeah, man, I'm just, I'm very excited for this year, bro. But yeah, I don't have, like, plans for it. I just go with it, dog, you know. I got my kids, bro. You know, I got family, bro.

Starting point is 01:23:01 I'd be, like, trying to have time for my daughters and shit. I feel you, and I ain't trying to keep you from your lady any longer. I know it's Valentine's Day. I do want to know. So the chili limes are worth way more than the chickens and the beefs. But that's just for you what you prefer? Yeah, I got, yeah. I just, they're fire, bro.

Starting point is 01:23:22 Okay. Yeah. Have you tried to? Yeah, I fuck with the. They're fired, bro. I'll fuck with them. And then the other ones you could get at the, the thing is you could get them at

Starting point is 01:23:30 the prison. Most of the times they're at the prison. The other ones, you've got to order them on a package. Right. I ain't going to lie to you. A lot of people think I'm crazy. I'd be fucking with the Asian ones. I'll be fucking with the shrimp ones. You feel me? Like, a lot of people don't like that shit, but I'm across

Starting point is 01:23:46 the board. I'll be eating those to my girl, man. She'd be eating those too. She's like a different shit like that. Was it an adjustment? Like, do you still make spreads and shit like that or is that like once you out you're like fuck that yeah yeah yesterday we was going to make a spread with lobster okay okay but you know we got sidetracked and start eating and shit i think people would like to see more like i like to see the recipes and shit so you feel me yeah i'm gonna have some more i'm gonna have some more coming out hit him with the recipes

Starting point is 01:24:15 any uh final message for the people man just shine bright man like everybody uh make sure you uh you do what makes you feel all right, bro. Tomorrow's never promised, man, your people ain't going to be here forever. Make sure you do what makes you feel all right today. And go watch my videos, man, and slap my music, bro. Shout out to all the homies, bro, the day ones. That's rocking with me, bro. And I said, bro, I appreciate you.

Starting point is 01:24:42 I see it. Straight up. Fair enough. King Nico in the building. Yeah.

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