No Jumper - Korina Kova on Why Her Boobs Won’t Stop Growing, Mommy Role Play & More

Episode Date: May 5, 2023

Sharp is back with a brand new interview with the lovely Korina Kova, to talk about her condition, her intriguing toy collection, circus school, ----- 00:00 Intro 00:05 Korina talks about being a ��soloist” and has over 40k in toys 01:25 Korina on coming out of Canada as a sheltered, and losing virginity at 18 2:45 Going to circus school and putting on a few shows a night 5:55 Bringing featured dancers to Vancouver and how the strip game has changed 8:05 Stri**ing for 6 years and loving the lifestyle 11:45 Korina talks about coming from Canada to see Sharp and fangirls a bit 13:05 Being diagnosed with Gigantomastia and filling the “Big B**b Market” 15:25 Korina talks about doing a procedure to change her eye color 23:15 Korina on producing her own content and investing in herself 26:00 Korina talks about the “Mommy Role Play” is the biggest thing in corn 33:45 Being a hot commodity for not taking real d and cross collabing with platforms 39:05 Korina says these platforms can’t afford her anymore 40:45 Maximizing profits on content and not F a fan for 20 million 46:45 Korina on having trouble doing __ and is willing to take classes to get better ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. You seem like you've been waiting for that. It seems like you've been waiting for that the entire time. You've been watching, baby. When did you start watching? I've just been doing past episodes.

Karina COVID, ladies and gentlemen, by the way. Bring it through. But tell us about it. When you start watching? A couple years, actually. well being in like the adult industry. I think I found no jumper through plug talk. Okay.

But yeah. So you've done plug talk. No, no, no, no. I'm actually a solo performer. That's what's going to be so different for you interviewing me. I've got no real like, ho-thought stories. I just have a different side to my hustle. Well, maybe we can get you there by the end of this.

Okay. I'm just joking, sweetie. So you say you're a solo. Yes. You're a soloist. Solo. Yes. Wow.

But I invest in all the best of the best toys, and I have a lot of fun. It says that you have over $40,000 in s shton toys. Yes, that is truth. Wow. Yeah. My bookkeeper laughs every time every monthly. That is dedication if I've ever seen any. That is dedication to the game of what you do.

So you're from Canada. Canada. Yeah. How's that been? You born and raised? Yes. Yeah, I was from a different part of Canada, and then I found the perfect house for my studio. I built my second studio now, so I moved to, like, a smaller part of Canada that...

Yeah. Part of Canada you originally from? Actually, up in B.C. B.C.? Mm-hmm. Okay. Where are you at now? Yeah.

Kind of like the middle of Canada. Okay. I don't think anybody's going to come. Oh, yeah. She just dropped her little. She's dropped the city she's in. We're going to look for her. Yeah.

How was it for you growing up in Canada before all of this? Yeah. I feel a bit sheltered. I don't know. It's, I had a really good upbringing. Seems like that for like a lot of chicks like that get sheltered, right? And they don't get to really, I mean, I would like to use the word, be able to be a little bit promiscuous as they're younger, you know. So when they get a little bit older, they just kind of while out because they want to be.

want to see what it's like, you know, to kind of live on the wild side, I guess. I think that's kind of what happened with me. I kind of, like, held off my body for so long. How long? I was about 18. I mean, is that bad? No, no. I don't think so.

But then it was just like... These kids are fucking at 12. Like, these kids are crazy. Yeah, no, I went into, like, exotic dancing quite quickly. Yeah. So I was, I have like a heavy background and exotic dance up in Canada there. Were you popping out there? Yeah, yeah, I got to work at like a really good club and they circus trained us,

doing all this crazy shit with our bodies and on the pole. Circus trained. Yeah, they'd actually send us to circus school. That's a new, I've never heard of, I've never heard nobody ever getting sent to like circus school. Yeah. What do you, what do they want you to learn over there? The times have changed now, but back then that was, you know, probably good 15 years ago. they would expect the girls

we'd have like at least $2,500 costumes like theme sets, theme music, show girls stuff. You'd be in a champagne glass filled with a bubble bath or like you'd do hoop and silks. You'd do all that impressive stuff. I'm so like some of that Sir Dissoulet type shit. Yeah.

So they really took it serious down there where you're from like it wasn't no plan. You ain't just going to come in and just look pretty and walk around. No, no, you got to So like I started doing the regular dancing stuff And then that's where I was aiming to go So I would have to go audition

That was like my goal To get into that club Can we shout out the club? What's the club? Yeah, it's Brandy's in Vancouver It's changed a lot but I don't think there's any like clubs anymore Well, maybe a couple in Vancouver But the showgirl stuff like what you invest into the shows

They're just not what they used to be Yeah Yeah I'm going to be honest with you. I've rarely ever heard a woman come in and say, hey, like, no, there was a real upscale movement to it. Like your costumes, you know, they weren't 40, 50 bucks or 100 bucks for them. You know, you're paying a couple of grand sometimes, maybe four, if it, depending on what the costume entailed to, right? Yeah.

That's crazy. Yeah. So we actually had, like, a masseuse that was working on staff. So if he threw something out, you go up to the dressing room, get massaged out. We had a seamstress that just worked for our club and our girls, so we didn't have a big wait list. So you would be responsible for coming up with your theme show, whether it be like burlesky or something bedazzling, like Egyptian kind of theme and something really cool. And then, yeah, the club would kind of support you into developing it into a full show that you'd perform and do a couple shows per night. I think that the game that you're giving right now, honestly,

like I think a lot of strip clubs could pick up on that because I feel like that would bring some big money. Me personally, you know what I'm saying? When you listen to it, like, man, no, the girls are really putting their efforts into this. They're not just showing up late, you know, throwing together, whatever they can throw together together. Go out there, not even hit the stage, just do the walk arounds. You know what I mean? Yeah.

And I'm sure there's, I'm sure there's, I mean, I know. the strip game like yeah I'm sure there's a lot of chicks that still get bred but if it was orchestrated kind of like how you explained it I think a lot of these strip clubs it would be it would be an experience you know what I'm saying because it sounds like where you were at was an experience you guys were selling an experience it was it very much what it's like I totally missed that about strip clubs so everywhere I travel I make it a point like it's my passion like I still love that that kind of entertainment yeah but I have not walked into either Vegas or you know even places in Canada, Toronto, like, no one does it.

No one does it anymore. And actually, like, I tried to bring that element to Toronto and two clubs picked up on it. So I was going to bring in featured dancers where we'd bring that costume, theme, show to the club. But it lasted like four months. But see, with the clubs, they don't have to pay the girls. So, but if you're going to put on a big show, you've got to pay for your girls stage shows. So I guess they just couldn't really come. It's because, and I could be wrong,

but I just feel like, man, especially in that industry, nobody takes pride in it anymore. Yeah, well, it's just like a... It's the grind for the lap dances, grind for the lap dances. Just give me money. Like, as a female, I love to go spend money on the shows, on the stage. I love to go drop money on like a good... Even if it's just pull tricks and a slingshot, I'll be like,

hell yeah, I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Show me some good... It definitely has changed. You know, like I said, back in the day, probably when you were doing it, it was filet mignon. Now, today, it's a McDonald's hamburger. Like, it's not, it's changed. It's changed up.

Like I said, nobody's taking pride in, like, what can we do different to rake in more revenue? Yeah. You know, everybody's kind of content now, you know? But I think it's just because nobody's really willing to learn. Nobody wants to learn. I think no one wants to, the club owners don't want to spend the money. You know, and they would bring in the clientele of the couples who love to go see the show and get the lap dance together. They'd bring in a whole different party element to the club instead of, you know, maybe CD more like lap dances, off-camera stuff.

So I was never about that. How long did you do the strip club for? Yeah, I did the strip club for six years. And it's probably just my favorite job I've ever had. Yeah. What was some of the perks you felt like you gained from it or the experiences? Tell us a couple. Yeah, just like a lot of like training all the time and didn't have to worry about the gym.

You're always keeping your body up. I love like sparkly things. So I would love the costumes. We're my favorite part. Just, you know, really having something like that to look forward to consistency. What do you like Savorski crystals and shit on some of your outfits? That shit gets expensive. That shit ain't cheap.

man people think just because oh well it's not real diamonds Sivorski's will cost you Oh yeah yeah so it was like It was all of these even This is where I get my fix now My nails

Your nails So you're talking down a little bit Yeah Yeah I actually still held on to like My top four costumes I can't let them go Like I want to give them a good home

To another girl But girls just walk up on bikinis now So It's the most What's the most money You've paid for an outfit? Oh Probably

3,500. Yeah, it was this quite intense like kind of almost like Mad Max element kind of cave girl element to it. 3,500 would be considered pretty fucking steep for outfit you're only gonna use for stage.

Yeah, because it's got layers, right? It's like fur, it's got layers, it's got sequins, it's got, you know, everything to it. And props had like a fire pit that smoked. So it was like a smoke show after. She made a fire pit. to smoke.

Yeah. I was about that. Damn, y'all really had the shit going. Like, I liked that because it's business. It was so fun. It's dope. You know what I'm saying? When you can have things like that, I'm sure not only did the viewer or the fan that was in

the building was enjoying it, the person that was doing it because it was a show. It was something you had to really do. Yeah. Not just, okay, I'm twirling again. Yeah. I'm going to twirl one more time and one more time and then I'm going to get off stage and you guys better off on me all your money. Yeah, because back then they would have.

actually like you would have to get your show approved for being presented on stage. So you'd have to like get the costume together, get everything together, get your sequence together. And have somebody sit down. It's not an audition. Like you're not, you're already hired to the club, but you're presenting that show to be. Sounds like Broadway of the strippers. You know what I'm saying?

It's like, hold on. You're not just going to get in. We got to watch your entire set. We got to. So would they, if you would present a set to them, would they, would they, you know, ever critique it every now and again. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. Like, hey, it was nice, but do a little bit of this in it.

And you have to incorporate that. Yeah, constructive criticism. I love constructive criticism in my life anyway. Yeah. So, yeah. Not a lot of people do. Yeah. People hate that.

Yeah. People like it's such a criticism. Maybe. I don't know why. It's got to be. It's because people feel like they know everything already. Yeah. They feel like, oh, I already watched that on YouTube, so I know.

or I already watched that. Yeah, I already watched that on a self-help fucking video, so I understand that. But these people ain't never really experienced things, and I think that experience is everything, and if somebody can share their experience with you, take that shit into consideration, especially

if you're going down that road. You know, I feel like I've done that with talking to girls or whatever, like, that come through. I'm like, man, like, just listen to me. I've got experience and a lot of things, you know? So I'm only going to talk about what I know. And if I I don't, I'll ask you, and maybe you can enlighten me and give me some game.

Yeah. But nobody ever really does. They just blow a microchip and start tripping. You know what I mean? I think you have a real talent, though, with your words and the way you present it, and it's just, it's engaging. Thank you. Yeah.

So you came all the way, you came all the way from Canada, come do the interview with it. I did. That's love. This is actually, I'm like, I'm not going to blow smoke and be like I had other things lined up. Honestly, like, yeah, I came to do this. because like I've been kind of off work for the last like two years. Now I'm back.

So yeah, this is a good opportunity for me. So of course I'm going to jump at it. Love the white roof accessories. Thank you. Love those, baby. Love those. Tasteful. A little bit.

Tasteful. It's small but it's big. Generic, but yeah. It's small. Oh, they're generic ones. No, no, no. I mean, everyone's wearing them. Oh, I was about to say, oh, shit.

No. I was like, damn, you're about to make me look. look stupid as a motherfucker on camera. No. You know what? I actually, I have your shades. I know they're men's. I have them.

But I didn't wear them because I knew you're going to wear them. You knew I was going to wear them? Yeah. I mean, I could have switched them up and put some Cartier's on so that way. I mean, but shit, we would probably look good together wearing them both. They'd have probably been like, man, sharp. That's really your bitch Loki, bro. Stop playing.

You know what I'm saying? We know what's up now, man. The jig's up. Don't tease. No. So I don't even know how to pronounce this, but you were diagnosed with something where your tits don't stop growing. Yeah, so I was just doing a check right now,

make sure they're in there, but it's... What's it called? Gigantomastia. Gigantomastia. Yeah, I took it as quite a, like, a hard diagnosis because, like, back when I was an answer, it was all natural, I had, like, big, big natural tits. And then moving into this industry that I'm in now,

I enhanced them, but if I knew what I knew now, I would have never done that because now they're just, it's not stopping. So I have to, you know, live with the fact that they're just going to get circus big. Wow. Do you ever, have you thought about having a reduction? I, for now, my fans are crazy for it. I'm in the big boob market. That's how I do market myself.

With this new diagnosis, though, I probably have like maybe three years before I'll have to get a reduction. Well, at least you're not on the, um, the bimbo train. You ever seen those chicks like the bimboes? Oh, no, heck now. Not me. No, I'm just, no. No, I've seen them. It gets scary, man.

But I've noticed it's a, it's a small community, but a community nonetheless to where the lips are super fucking huge. the nose has been fucking wrecked beyond its means. You know what I'm saying? Like just body dysmorphia, just like just going through crazy shit. You're like, man, this shit happened by accident. You're like, I wouldn't even have done this. Because you look very normal.

You don't look like, you know what I'm saying? So I know it's got to be, I don't know if you have any certain niches that you know or that you offer when you know you're doing your only fans or you're doing something like that. Yeah, I do a lot of, I get. boxed into the bimbo market. Damn. You know that TikTok's like, hell no.

I wasn't trying to call you one either, but. And over here, I'm role playing bimbo like to the max. Yeah. Bimbo is a totally different thing to me is like where it looks crazy. Yeah, taking it to the max. It's a sickness.

Yeah. I think that, I mean, I have body dysmorphia. I think that. You think so why? Yeah. Tell me why. Tell us why. I.

I, well, I was big time into cosmetic surgery once I got, like, I started my Instagram, and I felt like I needed to change myself. So, like, I did a risky surgery. I changed the color of my eyes to green. So I know, I know, I know, I know. Let me see. No, I have a story behind it. So I go five years, a Canadian specialist.

I was about to look like this, you got them on your eye with this. The top in Canada, watching me, watching over my eyes, watching over my eye health, following up. Anyways,

I had girls on Instagram that had gone before me and they had started experiencing, like, side effects and complications. Anyways, I wake up one day, blind.

So then we rush me. Yeah, to be fucking scary. Yeah, so that, smacked me in the right direction where it was like you don't have to change yourself like stop with that

be happy with yourself I almost was like I had to be blind for a year and a half before I got two cornea transplants I'm back on my game now that's why I was off work for two years so I mean because I've seen people use all types of different situations of what blind is to them like could you

was it literally dark like Or was it just a big blur? Well, see, it was because of endothelia cell loss. So that's the cornea of your eye. The cellular part was completely, and you don't regain endotheliums. They don't grow back. So the vision loss was I was legally blind. It was like a white, just fog, like a cornea blindness, not a retina blindness where you'd be black.

Right, right, right. Yeah. So it was just like, still, of everything. scary situation. And thank God for science because, you know, if it was maybe five years earlier, I wouldn't have had to have the cellular transplant that they did, which was insane. Like, they just took the donor's cellular tissue and put it on my eye. And now I'm seeing 2020, 2025.

What the fuck? 2020 and 2025. That is extra. Just say we got 2020 back. No, no, no, no, because this one's not quite as good. So I got a good item, like, you know, but I'm just saying. Okay. If I'm, I don't know, maybe this, maybe I'm, maybe I don't know this at this point,

but I thought 2020 vision was perfect, right? Yes. So I've got, so I've got clarification from me. Donnie? Yeah, but they box it up to 25 a while. Oh, uh-uh. No, 2025 is actually like a vision law, like. Oh, it goes the other way.

Yeah, exactly. Thank you, Donnie. I appreciate you, Donnie. because I was curious, man. I'm like, I've never heard 20, 25. I've always heard 20, 20, you know, but. So I was blessed to regain all my vision and my right eye. Yeah.

And a little bit less in my left. So, yeah, I had to learn a hard lesson. Well. Yeah. Couldn't drive for a while. Couldn't do a lot of shit. That's why I celebrated to the max when I came back. Did you have somebody to help you throughout that?

Yeah. Friends, family. I have a tight-knit circle of people. That's good. Yeah. Because that's got to be pretty scary going through that. Yeah, especially like the industry I'm in, right? Like someone had to just like take the driving wheel for it. Like, you know, make sure the websites are being run and like chopping up old content, trying to stay relevant, trying to be there when you're not, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I got to ask you, how do you remain a solo performer bringing in still top percentages? Yeah, so actually, like, I thought I'd peaked in 2018. I was like, I got the ex-biz award for it. I was always nominated for like the porn. Ex-Bis porn, right?

Yeah, yeah. So like, but earning-wise, it's crazy. Like, I'm actually earning more now coming back after the surgery and everything than I was back then. So I don't know. It just keeps evolving. I feel like it's like the life hack of porn because I don't have to deal with paperwork. I don't have to worry about my health being at risk. I don't have to, you know, I'm simply.

And when you shoot, you know, solo porn properly, it can be very intimate. Like, I have guys comment all the time, like, I never liked solo porn before, but like yours, like I can really get into. No one I think it's going to really take off. Honestly. is when it can cross over, like not saying it hasn't already, but I think solo porn will really thrive in VR.

Yeah. Right? It really thrive in VR because it's going to feel real like you're actually there with the person, right? I would think. I think VR would like thrive.

Like, say for instance, you could catch a, I know it might sound crazy, it's far-fetched, but anything is possible, right? Where you fuck around and you catch a deal with the VR company.

and they'd be like, hey, we want to pick up some of your shit to where we have them, app just for you. Yeah, I've been awesome. That shit would be kind of dope. Yeah, I agree. Is it offered? Yeah, from ex-Bes and like through AVNs, there's always contacts of companies like VR and like sci-fi companies

and that's how I got onto adult time. And Brazos bought one of my solo scenes. But yeah, I get offers like that all the time, but like I'm so enthusiastic about. my own thing, I don't really step out of my box. Yeah, I kind of... What'd you call it? Brazers?

Brasers. It's brasers, but you said brazers. Sorry about that. It's okay. I was like, is that the Canadian popping out a little bit? It might be a Canadian, can we blame it? I was like, maybe that's the Canadian way of saying it, you know? Brazzers? Yeah, but, yeah, no. No, okay.

It's okay. It's okay. It is okay. But, like I said, I think that it would be, it would be fascinating because I've heard people already messing with the VR with watching porn now, right? And I really believe that solo porn or only fans would really, it would skyrocket, skyrocket. Because like you said, it's like, if you can sell it right,

if you can, like you said, hey, there's a way to get intimate with this shit. Like, you've obviously figured out the lick on that one. You know, if that shit can transfer to where it's like, chicks are selling their only fans strictly on VR. Crazy, man. That'd be fucking insane because I feel like the market, it would be not only new, but people are going to love that.

They're going to love to touch that market. I'm sure they're already doing it with Pornnell, but I'm talking about a chick really solely like, hey, watch my shit on VR. Because that is just another way, like how you were talking earlier in the strip club. It's an experience, man. It's an experience.

Yeah. And you're like, I want to be able to give the least I have to and make him feel like he got everything. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm very enthusiastic. I'm very extra about my content. Like, I will get so cheese ball about it. But in the end, I just enjoy doing it. Would you consider if, like, let's say, the R company came to you and said, hey, yeah, we just want you to strictly put your content in an app over here?

No, I think I would invest in myself and get that. the VR equipment. Like, I already shoot with a Netflix-approved camera. It's a Blackmagic Ursa for 4.6. Damn. Yeah, so I take things seriously. Like, when I buy equipment, I'm buying, like, I have a passion for it, you know. So I would definitely invest.

I just, I don't, I haven't really dabbled in it. But I don't think I would work with another company. I think I would do it. And then it's all mine, right? That's smart. Yeah, you're like, why have a middleman pretty much? Yeah. You know, because if you look at it, right, what if it does great for the first couple years?

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And then you're like, well, I'm about to get ready to branch off. And this shit bombs. Yeah. All the millions, maybe billions, have been made already off of it. So where now it's dying out as you're trying to step into that lane yourself. You're like, shit, if I'm going to step into it, might as well get it while the getting's good.

Yeah. That's pretty much what you're saying. Yeah. That's live. I'll send you a thank you note when I buy the virtual Yes, send me a thank you note Maybe a check Does it happen? You know?

Just, hey, just if you're feeling good that day You're feeling good that day and you say, hey, I gotta thank this motherfucker, man, for real. Yeah. Because I just think that that's Isn't that where the world's headed anyway? It's virtual, right? Everything is starting to be come down.

Yeah, like right now the role play I mean, it's called virtual sex. for the reason, right? Like, it's, the camera's up on you. The viewer is, like, watching it as if they're on top of you, right? Crazy, man. And it's, yeah, it's definitely not dying off. It's just taking off.

What if, like, think about this, what if, like, an old man decides he wants to get on VR and he's having virtual sex and he has a heart attack? Right? Why are you laughing? I'd be liable. Hurley's like, hey, Sharp, don't ever say that shit, because I be on VR and I don't want to be fucking a 50-year-old man one day and crash.

Like, damn, you know? Is the woman still responsible? Are they still going to do a fucking? Totally. Definitely damages. Yeah, is there going to be still a police report filed on her and she wasn't even around? Think about it, man. That shit's going to cause problems.

Yeah. Now you got me in the middle of the pond here. I don't know. So you be online, you play the step mommy. I am step mummy, Karina Kovah, more than I'm Karenakova. Like these mummy's boys are multiplying daily. The urge and the taboo element. I mean, we're hearing it in songs now.

Like, you know, Drake's singing, rescue me, Mommy. Like, I don't know, but these mommy's boys. I love Drake, man. We can't do that to Drake right here. Well, I don't know. I don't know why. I'm just fucking with you. Say your shit.

I'm just fucking with you. This role play is the- But come on. I still want to see Drake in the future. Let's not shun him. No. No. Not too.

I'm just saying like the whole like, I don't know what it is about the taboo market. Yeah. It is the biggest in porn. Is this this step mother? Family role play. Yeah. It's what,

when I went from being a dancer and I dabbled into like this kind of sex work, online sex work. It took me a long time to accept those roles. Like I was like family roleplay like with, but over and over and over again. And that market, they've got the money to spend on the custom videos and they want you to be their stepmom. You know, they will pay to have that role played out. I love Mummy's boys. Like I am now accepting all sons I can.

Yeah. All the sons that you can? All the sons, yeah. You know what people, I think people, I know a lot of people have to see this. I think it's because people love what you're not supposed to do. Yeah. You are really like psychology-wise, that's definitely a part of it. People love what, like, it's bad.

It's not, you're not supposed to do it. It's wrong. Right. It feels so good. It feels good because it is wrong. You've got it. You know what I'm saying? It's something that you, everybody can do right, right?

Everybody can walk and be like, yeah, I know I'm not supposed to do that. Yeah. But when you're not looking, they're like, I want to see what that's. I want to cross over. Think about how many people, hundreds of thousands, millions are watching taboo. You know, I couldn't, I wouldn't consider it incest, nothing like that. Because it's stepmother, but I mean, still family. nonetheless, you know

But people, it's not wrong, people like it. It's people have had hot stepmamas or whatever, you know, I'm sure throughout their life that they've probably nailed. I get it. It sparks from somewhere. Yeah. It sparks from a truth somewhere, right? Mm-hmm. It doesn't just get made up.

I know, Donnie. I don't know. Like, maybe. We're fucking touching it. They shit don't just get made up. That shit really happens. You're getting deep into it. Why not?

I think the psychology is definitely. like right I think you're very smart for that kind of outlook on it yeah but I think it's it's a lot of the nurturing factor like these men they just they just want to be like nurtured do you think that goes back to the type of women that we have out here what do you mean like to choose from like there's not really a lot of nurturing women period you should want to nurture your man right and I feel like that um that aesthetic has been tossed out the door with the modern day woman. Like that shit don't stand for nothing no more.

You know, getting your back rubbed, getting your back rubbed or getting rubbed on or your woman running you a bath, that shit's almost like it has to be a birthday or has to be a holiday or something that you're a celebration. Or a holiday so they could stay home and be together. A man wants that all the time. Yeah.

You know, so that just goes back to stem, what you're saying. Like, I think that's why they run to the step mama Just that type of Because you're being loving You know what I'm saying? Damn I'm here for it

Damn I'm here for it And then I was like I was full full on for it Because it's just Such Bigger than the big tit market Bigger than the big boom

I mean the big ass market Bigger They like it because it's wrong baby But look no And I'm not saying like it's wrong Like it's illegal No it's not that It's just that

he knows that he couldn't go tell his friends that, that, hey, yeah, I fucking just watched some stepmom porn. Yeah. Who's going to walk around doing that? Honestly, God. Ain't nobody going to walk around doing that. Like, yeah, man, hey, man, I love what kind of porn you like. Man, I love watching stepmamas.

It's, it's, they can't say that. I think that's what they like about it. It's like, damn, you got to hold that one deep in your gut. If you don't want nobody to know, hell, if you're going to tell anybody, it's probably going to be the bitch that you're watching. And their secret is. Their secret is safe with me. Confidentiality.

I'm all about confidentiality. Hey, mammas are never supposed to tell them their kids. This mama won't be telling. This shit's a trip, man. This shit's a trip. It's fascinating, though, like to sit down with somebody who really does cater to that. I don't know why, but I've got to bring this fucking lady back, Sherry Deville, man, because she does the same shit.

Yes, milfy, milf. She does the same. She's America's mom, stepmom. She plays the whole role. And she, they fuck with her by the masses as well. You know what I'm saying? Because there are people that are really looking for that mothering type of nurturing type of, you know what I'm saying? And they're loyal.

Like when I get a new stepson, that man is loyal to me now. And that relationship is built. and I get, you know, a very good... How old is one of the oldest stepson's, yeah. Oh, well, I don't... Like, one that you really get there, like... Like, do you could have, like, a 40-year-old man that buys all your shit?

50-year-old man that buys all your shit. Hell, he's older than you. You know what I'm saying? He's buying your shit, and he wants to be considered one of your, quote-unquote, step-sons. Yeah. Seems like it's like a cult.

I don't think they disclose their age because they really want to dive into, like, the kind of 18-year-old stepmom takes virginity kind of if well he's got at least living somewhat of a reality yeah to understand that okay that's not your age you know what I'm saying it's still cool for him to want to sit there and look at you

as that yeah but uh hell his dad could have married you right role play his dad could have been on the way out the door and you fucked him at the funeral who knows you know I mean let me write this down to my next that's my next shoot You know what I'm saying? Who knows?

You know what I'm saying? Like shit, it don't have to be. I'm just trying to help you see that, hey, it's a band. Everybody, let them all in. Figure out a niche for all of them, if that's the case. Don't just say, I'm not saying that you're trying to disclose the different age brackets of things, but let them all in. Figure out a way to. To where they can accept it when you say it right here on this microphone.

Feel me? Teach your ass a thing or two, baby. You can. It's like you, have you been taking psychology or have you just? Women. Psychology and women. All right. Mastered the arts at a PhD.

Okay. Two degrees. I would believe it. You know. The degrees aren't on the wall. Hey, I want to know because I know that you being so like, what does it, does it cause a problem? Maybe that's why you stepped over to the stepmom effect because it works over there.

You're like, damn, I'm over here. sharp, I'm getting bread out that shit, which is dope. But I know when you're doing your solo, do you have any problems where people actually want you to put some, a man in the mix? Oh, yeah. So what's been, like, has there been any struggles with that or anything? You know, like, I don't know. I just, um, men get so pressed that I don't take real cock on camera. They get real mad.

And it's like, there are so many porn stars. They said you do that for you. No, just like the usual stuff that's like, you know, like, how can you not do this? You must be this, you must be that because you don't like Dick. You know what? It's none of those things. I love Dick.

I haven't had Dick in a while. But like it's not about that. My limits when I started in the industry have actually stayed the same. So I just, I won't. be pressure. There's not like, you know, sorry, Brazzers and like, reality kings and stuff like that. They have offered me a very nice amount to money to come to that side, but I'm always going to make more money on my own. Wouldn't it be smart? Then, okay, so it sounds like you're a hot commodity, and I wish I would tell you this game off camera,

but I'm going to show people just how much game I do have when it comes to these type of things. So you're a hot commodity to them. They would love for you to come over to the reality king's side and come over there to the brothers and really like do a shoot tell them one shoot one only hey man biggest offer wins but i mean you would for just that one piece of content might change your life to where you probably won't have to ever do it again i know but i'm in the position where i have the top end equipment i can reach out to my favorite guy that i want to get fucking railed by i'll hire him he'll come to my studio all own it and all release it I'm just very much that type of like mentality because I guess I got lucky online.

Well, I'm not saying that you're not, your fan base ain't crazy, but let's think about it. Isn't it all about cross-collabbing? Definitely. You fuck around and you go over there. It's going to sell 10. Like, you have to think about it. It's going to sell because not only are you going to maximize your side, but now you're about to maximize reality king's side.

And their shit's huge. So it's like you're putting two. Income's to one to sell for one product that's about to get ready. You can talk into some millions for your one shoot. If it's done right, like you were telling me earlier, it's all about how you set things up. Yeah, it's definitely about the setup. If the contract was, if my numbers, like, I could easily calculate,

like, if I released the scene, what I would make. I'm sure you do great. So, like, but, like, yeah, I already kind of collabed with browsers. Their audience saw me as a solo performer on their site and everything. But you taking, you being with a man in a scene. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? I feel like it's almost like a chick that's 22, 23 years old and she's raffling off her virginity. Yeah. It's like the highest bitter wins. It's like they want to see her on that. So they're anticipating. Like it's like, fuck, how much do we be?

pay like to get this girl. We want to have this piece of content. She's obviously popular in her own realm. What do we need to do? Do we need to sit down? Do we need to get a contract going for her? Do we need to, what's it going to take for her to do this? And it's everything has a price, honey.

And I'm sure you don't fall out of that category. Let's be honest. Everything has a fucking price. You can go to the fucking, you can go to bet you this. You can go to the casino right now. I bet you there's a cocktail waitress in there. Everybody got their. price that she always said I would never

offer something that changed her motherfucking life I promise you you don't know that's anybody there's a price for everybody but I'm already set up you are I'm not saying you're not comfy I'm cushy I'm good I'm

set up I've been in this industry for eight years now I got lucky out the gate I found a niche people wanted to see like this elaborate real solo stuff and I came out with a bang. I got lucky and like I keep I keep getting lucky. I'm going to ride that out and if talking about collabs I am that's on my list this year

you know after coming on podcast talking with you maybe doing some more somewhere else who knows is doing collabs but with with females but not skin to skin just side by side Side-by-side collab. I just want you to know. I just want you to know. Like, these are just me and your insights. Like, we're just trying to figure it out because I'm listening to you and I'm interested in the conversation. I'm like, okay, well, there's always a way to maximize.

So I'm the type of person that I always look for the maximum situation of how we can play things out. Yeah. So when I hear you say, like, yeah, they really fucking want me to come up over here. You know what I mean? Like, shit. Sometimes people pay you more than you. you would ever even imagine. And it's good that you've held out.

It's not the same anymore. Very true. I'm sorry, but they don't have the numbers to offer me anymore that they did seven years ago. Just saying somebody come off for your crazy bag. Like, come on, man, you want 20 mil? Do you want 20 mil to come in and do the scene we need to do? I don't see anybody turn that shit down.

But that's unrealistic, Sharp. Why isn't it? It's unrealistic. No, it's not. It is. Name me one top girl. Top girl that's gotten up. Okay, why don't you be the first top girl

to make that happen? Why does everybody always want to wait to be the fifth? Why don't you be the first? There's not anymore. There's no 20-mill contract in adult industries anymore. Y'all got to figure something to fuck out. Because everyone's now, like, doing things differently. No, what it is is everybody's doing things the same.

Maybe that's true. I feel like that's a piece of the problem is that, you know, there's no one-off anymore. more. Everybody's kind of did everything. Okay, so how am I going to get the $20,000 deal? 20 million dollar deal. See, you cool for $20,000. I don't even know why you're right. We should have no problems with getting a contract from them today, Donnie. But that is the realistic offer. No, okay, cool. But I'm just saying, if you're this much of a hot commodity, which I believe you, and I believe that you are, Why not get, man, I don't know, I would just figure out a way to maximize the situation.

Maybe $20 million is a fucking hell of a shot in the dark. But damn it, you got to try. You shoot high to get what you really want. Yeah, if we're playing that game. To get what you want. If you're playing that game of like, is there a number, everyone has a number? Yes, of course there's a number. Well, this is business, right?

Yeah. I don't, are you doing, are you doing this for personal pleasure? For my work? Yeah. Is this for personal pleasure? Yeah, what don't I enjoy? Do you like pleasuring yourself on camera? I love it.

Yeah, I really love it. Yeah. But you seem like you're into the business side of it too. You seem like you like it to make great. Would you do it for free? No, because no. No, I wouldn't. I don't believe in free content.

Because Pornhub, they used to have their Model Hub side, and I was a top girl. I was top 10 in their Model Hub. so that's the paid content. But do I post my shit to porn hub for free? No, I don't believe in free content. So I don't believe in free work. But you said you loved the pleasure yourself on camera. Fuck the money pretty much.

But my, my job luckily provides me with pleasure. And it just doesn't feel like it's such a job. But it is a job. So would you do it for absolutely no money? You said, yeah, I don't believe in free content, but I do love to pleasure myself on camera. or so I feel like it's the money that makes you come, baby. Yeah, I'm blessed to have a job I enjoy.

Who doesn't, you like what you do? She ain't, yeah. Yeah. Love it today. Would you do it for free? Probably not. Okay. Because you know why?

It's because I understand my worth and you do too. Yeah, absolutely. That's why you push for the bigger bag. Understand your worth. See, you asked me, I answered you. You're like, yeah, would you do it for free? No, because I understand my worth. Mm-hmm.

Fuck what anybody says around you. Fuck if they say, oh, she's not worth $20 million. They would laugh at it, right? You have to hold that accountability in yourself or hold that pride to say, fuck what they say, I know what I'm worth. And you stay pushing, and I promise you, Mama, this is a big motherfucking world.

Somebody one day, I don't give a fucking fits in the smallest fucking crack in the wall is going to take you up for what the fuck you're saying. The only realistic scenario that that would happen would be a wealthy fan, would offer that money for a fan fuck. He's out there. Might fuck around and run into him.

He might be like, hey, babe, coming to Dubai. Come on, I'm gonna fly your eye. Come on. I want to do just a good weekend, dope weekend here. Here's this $20 million. We can do a little bit. He probably don't even want the content.

See, you're looking big. We're looking a little deeper. He probably just wants some content for his personal, fucking his personal collection. He don't even want it for anybody else. He's just rich and just wanted to say that, hey, when he's around his friends, that hey, yeah, you know that one girl that says

she would never do it? Look, she did all of that with me. That shit will pay, that shit is a, it'll make him feel so good about the money he spent with you. He's going to charge it every time. Oh, you didn't think, oh, you like her? Oh, man, look. No. Look at your face.

You're like, no, I don't want him to do that to me. Well, that's the way it's going to work sometimes. It wouldn't work because if you have your ducks in a row, exactly. If I did a fan fuck, I would own that content. There would be release forms. There would be things drafted up. But this man wants to get you $20 million. Yeah, and he would by doing a fan fuck.

Do you know what a fan fuck is? Yeah, I've heard of them. It's just simply him being able to fuck. It's simple. Yeah. No, that's real. So he's not after, you know, the content. That's real.

I'd be in charge of it. If I release it down the road, I release it down the road. But that's the only realistic fact, like the only realistic scenario that a $20 million contract would happen. Why would he won't know? Because the poor companies don't have it anymore. Look, look, I'm going to tell you this. I do agree him doing a contract because he's probably going to want to fuck you raw for for $20 billion.

I don't know. see him wanting to put any type of condom on for that. Yeah. That's just, we're just being realistic here. $20 million. That's not gonna want. Of course. He's gonna want no restrictions, all access.

Right. So me and you both know you putting your piece of twos and fuse on that contract might not work a bit in the sense of, well, I'm gonna own the content of it. Whoa, he's saying we're not even talking about content here. I just wanna fuck you. Here's this 20 million. Yeah, I'm gonna film it. So whatever I wanna do with it.

He's not, let's say he's not even in the industry. Like you said, this is just a fan that's got a bunch of bread. He don't own a porn company. Exactly. This ain't the owner of Brazzers coming down saying, hey, I'm about to give this $20 million. Plus, I'm about to go put it on there. I can understand what you're saying at that point. This is just a fucking fan.

And he wants to pay you 20 mil to have a dope-ass weekend with you. And, of course, no, no boundaries. Did you be down for that? You'd be down. And he gets the content out of it. If I could control the situation, if I could, if I was sexually attracted and wanted it so that I would enjoy it, there'd be lots of factors to go into it if I was to make that step. I wouldn't even, why would I want to enjoy him? This is a fear factor.

This is like, you have to just take the fucking. But to enjoy him, like, why would you want to enjoy him? I would be enjoying the 20 million. Yeah, it's a power trip. And him? Yeah, the power you would get off on. You would easily come from the power knowing you're getting $20 million from this fucking simp. I don't get fuck the ugliest fuck with a chip tooth and his breath stank.

You're going to take that $20 million. You'll take it and never tell anybody. Promise you, I wouldn't. You would take it, never tell anybody. You know what's, it's funny. Like, it's so hilarious. You would, Karina. I know it, baby, and it's good.

Listen, we're all human. It's okay. It's only some pussy, right? It's always some pussy, you know? I know, but it's just, it's so much to it. There's so much to it. I'm sorry, there's things that couldn't get over. Tell me, give me a couple things.

I'm curious. Like, what would be some of your restrictions to do? To do something like that? Well, for one. 20 million's on the table? I don't have the asshole that can perform anal. So anal is off the top. I don't know why.

Understandable. I have, as a solo performer, if I could do anal, I would be milking it. That's understandable, though. I have tried so many times, and it hurts too much. So, anal's off the charts. So, yeah. That's people that like pain, though. Is it meaningful for everyone, though?

I think for them bitches, they like pain. If you say, like, you feel like it's pain, I mean, less her booty hole just loose, it's blown out. No, that's not. We're not saying that. I mean, I would expect it to be an exit, not just all. always been an entrance or entire life. No, but it's a muscle. Supposedly, you can train it. Supposedly.

Like, I've looked into it. It's like a damn dog. She's like, you can train it. Unfortunately, I sold a custom for a high price. All this pressure was on me to do this custom video with anal play. And I couldn't pull through because it was just too painful. So I even was like, could I possibly hire a butt double? And, you know, but I just had to return.

That was smart as fuck, though. Yeah. She was like, damn, because you making the, see, I fuck with you. Because you like, look, I don't want to turn the content down because I know this for a high bag. I can't really, I can't really handle it, but I don't want to, you know, let down. But it is kind of fucked up because we just told me. So you say everyone had a price. So that's a perfect situation.

I knew I wasn't capable of anal, but he offered me such a good price that I tried. I tried. And I tried for him. And I wish I could have done it. But because for me, that's not off of my morals. Like, if I could do anal, I'd be so happy. I'd be so happy. There'd be another element I could add to my performance.

Well, maybe there's a class you can take. Well, hey. I could hire the best anal porn star to probably just come give me, like, a master class. Try to show you. Yeah, baby, this is listen to me. I always looked at it like this. That's actually a hot idea. For real.

I always looked at it because I always looked at it like this. It's just like the game. mama you the woman that's moving is the best investment not the clothes not the shoes not the cars not any of that her is her that's the best investment so you are your own investment invest into that it costs you 10,000 to have that bitch come down for a month oh yeah whatever like and just and she can go chill and whatever because she got other shit to do but just to come fuck with you two three days out out the week and show you like what you can do to prepare yourself so when somebody does come and offer you another bag hey I don't have to turn that you

down. Not saying that that's what you have just on the fucking menu every day. Yeah. But if it does come back like how old boy did, you're prepared for that. Yeah. That's definitely how I look at my career is like that because my next step is going to be bringing in girls with bigger names just to cross over, be side by side. And I like that idea. I think I'm going to write a script about it where maybe Adriana Chetchick, she's so good at anal. Maybe I hire her. She comes in. And even if I fail at doing anal, it's a hot content to sell. And we're just sitting there side by side.

She's trying to teach me anal. That's like a really good idea. Cut me my chick. And the truth me, hey, I appreciate you. You've got a really hot ideas. Hey, I appreciate you for coming. Hey, I'm going to have you come back soon for a panel. I've been putting panels together lately pretty much where you know maybe four chicks that, you know, adult industry or whatever the case may be in a few guys.

And we all sit down and we kind of kick it like adult summit. It's like teens, but the adult status, you know, where it's everybody. just kind of kicks ideas and just different topics and, you know, people might bump heads and shit like that. I think you'd be a great fit. Wow. Thank you. I think you'd be a great fit, baby.

But I'm dead-ass serious. Send me my motherfucking check when you do that shit, man. You know what? Definitely getting a Christmas card. Karina Kovra, ladies and gentlemen, I appreciate you for coming, baby, and fucking with me, man. Thank you so much. I loved coming down to L.A. I love doing this.

Come fuck with me. Anytime. We can always sit back in debate. We can always balance. You're the best debater, I know. I appreciate you, baby. The Sharp Tank. No jumper.

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