No Jumper - KSI Vs Logan Paul 2 Recap Stream with Keemstar and Faze Banks

Episode Date: November 12, 2019

Adam22, Keemstar, Faze Banks, and Justin Whang sit down to talk about their thoughts on the recent fight between KSI and Logan Paul. FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://spoti.fi/2vi9lsD CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper and iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 and follow us on Social Media: http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm follow Adam22 as well: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and follow adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yeah, my assistant's in fucking Orange County all day. Damn. It's fine, though. Tav told them we had nothing to do because we really didn't. Sunday, fun day, baby. Football. Post fight. Football, no joker.

How proud are you guys and me for staying sober through last night specifically? Oh, yeah. I stayed like mostly sober. But no, I am proud of you. That's a lot for you. It was so much. There was so much. So much drugs going on?

There was so much shit going on, man. Like, Vitaly was definitely on some shit. But Talley is the most obvious steroid abuser that I've ever seen in my life, but he looks like he's made of rock right now. I love the kid. I absolutely love the kid. But last night, he was on some shit. Ah. We are alive.

Cameras are on, boys. He was running around. That's one of the interesting things about it is that, and I'm about to do a fucking tweet, just telling everybody that we're doing this. Okay, there we are. We already got 1100, so we're definitely active. Okay. Adding the link. Boom.

Update my own social media. This is very advanced. Vitaly was planning on running out to the stage and challenging Logan on stage, and then he couldn't get on stage. And I'm pretty sure he was trying to challenge KSI, like outside the ring, and there were some video footage of that.

What do you know about that? I actually know nothing, because I was sitting on the sideman side to the KSI side. Right. These guys were sitting, like, right next to all of it. So Banks has like a first-hand take of kind of really what went down. The same row is Mike, we did the podcast, who we did the podcast with, Love Sack, Mike, Logan, Logan. Shut out, Mike.

But that's what sucks as that Mike doesn't have like a real nickname. Dude, I fucking hate it. Yeah. I hate it. He's like Mike Logan Paul's friend. His last name's fucking weird, too, so it's like. You're not saying that. I actually don't even still to this day know how to really say it.

Oh, yeah. We should give him a nickname right now. I call him Mike Lovesack because, one, he hates it, too. That's really where he kind of. came from. That's how he was introduced to the whole. Mike is like proving that you can be a middle age, mediocre, white guy and still come up

in the YouTube game. That's amazing. I don't know that he's middle age, but for like YouTube he's like old. Mike is proving a concept that everyone knows. It's not how much talent you have, but it's who you know. No, no, no. Listen, I have to back,

Mike, I think Mike is actually extremely talented. Are you serious? I think Mike's funny. I like to fuck with Mike. I really do. I like to fuck with Mike. You and Mike should be best friends, though. You guys will never be best friends, but they should be. He's good, but Mike is the quintessential definition of a dude who's basically been able to build something for himself through basically just being a really good best buddy guy.

He's a social. He's very good socially. I don't think he like crosses that like dick sucker, dickrider. Dude, listen, listen, listen, listen, stop, stop. Logan wants to go to the club. He's going to the club. Logan wants to work out. He's helping him work out.

Logan wants to do business. That's also part of his job. Yeah, yeah. He's employed by, like, he's, that's his whole, that's his team. But you can go a long way if you are that guy who's just always there to help facilitate what the celebrity wants to do. He offers good, he offers good advice, even in my own life. I back Mike. I will say this.

He has a positive energy, right? Yeah, yeah. Like if he's there, like you're gonna smile, you're gonna joke around. I mean- Girls, bro, like he bags fucking hot girls. And like, I know firsthand, like, like being socially like the right way when it comes to that stuff goes the furthest you know i mean especially in hollywood all these creepy fucking dudes like mike is definitely a creepy

fucking dude but he's not like he's not like a creep you know what he's he makes people comfortable and he's like whatever and when you're famous it's a you're a little bit more limited in what you can do socially so having somebody like him who is not famous so he can just do whatever like he can be the guy running around the club fetching hotties for you i'm sure I'm sure you've put him to work doing that. Yeah, we've... Mike's good at a few things, and that's definitely one of them. He would be so happy if he knew how much we were talking about him right now.

Oh, he's going to find out. We should probably... The night shift. Yeah. We should shift. I love it, man, you guys. I go over to meet up with you guys, and you're sawn through a safe because there's $20,000 and a bunch of jewelry in it.

I'm like, this is such weird-ass Hollywood shit. You came in a weird time. Yeah. I lost the key to a safe. And Rice Gum is just like an observer who's just sitting on the bed, like... He always... This actually happened? Yeah, it was like three days ago.

He came to get his box. My box. Isn't that weird? Okay, so, I mean, this is big stuff to get into, but what does Logan do now? I personally think that Logan's going to be fine, honestly. Like, we were just talking about this in the car. Yeah. Like, I think that, like, people underestimate the fact, the amount of respect that people are going to give both of them for that.

It's not easy to do what they did. It takes real balls to fucking get up in front of that many actual humans. And then obviously in the back of your head, you know that like millions and millions of people are watching it live. And a lot's riding on it. It's, I don't know. I disagree. Okay.

I don't think he's going to be fine, right? I think this is going to be very similar to Dejy, right? Dejy fought Jake Paul. He lost and he went from three million views every single video to 600K, right? and I think a similar thing's going to happen to Logan but what I think Logan's going to do to counter that is he's going to try to come out with legitimate

music and try to put out actually non-cringe music Is that serious about his music? Dude, can I be the Yeah, can I just say it out of something? The YouTuber people need to stop making music They have to, man. Even some of my friends, like they need to stop.

If you do it as a joke, I'm okay with it. It's just, yeah, me too. If it's a disc track or, It's a comedy driven. Yeah, that shit's fine. That's YouTube shit. But don't you even feel like the ship has kind of sailed on that in the sense of like how everybody was just doing vlogs and shit for a while? And now that feels kind of painfully lame unless you're bringing something a little bit cool to the table.

And it feels like that with the music. A couple years ago, Tana doing joky rap songs was like, oh, this is fun. It's for her fan base. All of a sudden, that shit doesn't really read the same to me. It feels a little different climate-wise on YouTube. Unless it has a real, like, theme to it or there's a real purpose for the song, it definitely drags on, you know. like it's you gotta be fune they should just all around the woods yeah that was that's a fucking great song yeah thank you because for the culture it's just his biggest upload he's got like 10 million

views on it does it really yeah yeah i noticed for some reason youtube wants to recommend it to me like all the time that's that's a that's a that's a bullet in the chamber always for any utuber any any semi successful youtube or though if you make a song everyone who knows your name is gonna want to at least listen to it once i was literally on jimmy fucking kimmel for that song for that song. Yeah, it was, it was strange. So what happened is, obviously, there was like a lot of memes and stuff that, like, you know, that I originally did the chat up. A freestyle with, you know, dollar in the woods or whatever, and people made memes out of it. So then when I went to go make an actual song, I kind of referenced a bunch of memes that happened with me or whatever, right? It was a fun song. But what happened is, is Logan Paul in the suicide forest. So a meme came out with found a dead body in the woods, which they, they they translated to my song. So that got it popping. And then Jimmy Kimmel and it just kind of like fucking took off.

Right. I mean, okay, this, you know what is a question that needs to be addressed? And we could probably talk about this at length throughout this podcast. How much does this, like to me, one of the main things that the fight does for Logan is that it puts space. It puts significant events between him and the suicide forest thing, which is what he needs. He needs enough stuff in people's memory. I like that the suicide forest feels like just something that happened a while back. I actually disagree, okay?

I think if anyone is bringing up suicide forest, it's fucking Logan Paul. Dude, all his promotion for this fight was, I did this horrible thing. I had a lapse in judgment, and now I'm a better person. I learned from this. Dude, shut up. Nobody's talking about fucking suicide forest. You're the only one.

He was milking it. I do see how you would see that, and I've noticed them and their whole side bringing up and try to make light of it, which I do think is a good, like, angle to come from something like that. Yeah, but I know the angle. That's the problem. I know,

but you also have to understand he is a real human and really horrible shit has happened to me. And I find myself talking about it and, like, gradually, like, leaning toward, like, making light of it and, like, trying to just, like, make it, like, not so bad. You know what I mean? So maybe there's some of that.

Maybe he is milking it to an extent. I don't know. I wouldn't put anything past these guys. Like, they've done a lot of crazy. he weird shit. Logan could have very easily continued to have a nice, comfortable, cushy YouTube vlogger life, and he very, he very may well have done so. But then he made the mistake, made that video. And then all of a sudden it just his, his personality, his character online kind of got tainted where people just didn't want to see this fun-loving character that he was before.

And it was coming off the heels of all the Jake Paul, like that whole Jake Paul saga where he was We were already getting way too big for their own good at that point. They were blowing up so fast. It was like constant bad, negative attention. So for him, it's like with the boxing thing, it's like, okay, let's create a heroic arc in Logan Paul's career. That's best case scenario. But if he gets a draw and then he loses, all of a sudden it's like it's not going to be a heroic arc. And what if he losing one time is one thing?

Losing two or three times, all of a sudden, that shit is going to be really weird for his image. I think it's more like internally. I think it's gonna fuck them up more internally. I don't know, man. I think like at the end of the day, no, I haven't really seen a lot of people talk about this. Dude, these guys made so much fucking money. Like more money than anybody thinks that they made.

Whatever number you think both of them made as far as that fight goes, take that number and at least triple it. I heard eight, they both made eight mill. It's at least, I would guess at least, my at least number would be like 10. Bro, so many people bought that fight. So many people watched that fight,

so much went into that fight. And I understand the cost to run it all. Dude, like, that was fucking huge. And it was huge for like the YouTube, internet culture landscape. Like, this shit changes everything. I think they're both legends forever for it. Yeah.

From a boxing, from a boxing standpoint, it's like, if you just watch the fight, it was a draw. They both like, you know what I mean? I watched it again today and I fell in.

I don't agree with that. You take penalties away. You take like all the shenanigans. It was a draw. I don't agree. It was very close. Can I respond? Logan did not.

Outbox KSI and KSI did not outbox Logan Paul. No. I think these are two very, very even fight. Can I explain? Can I explain? They look pretty equal. Can I fucking explain? So I was saying.

But KSI outsmarted Logan Paul. Like I said, KSI is mentally stronger than Logan Paul. Listen, listen, that's another thing real quick on the record. Fucking say it. Say we were right. Yeah. We told everyone KSI. Yeah, you guys both said that.

But you didn't even seem like you thought that KSI was going to. You wanted to root for him because that's your boy. No, no, no, no, no. I didn't want to mush it. I didn't want to muck it. I said, I stuck true the whole way through. I said, I genuinely believe it's a 50-50, but I do believe the slight edge goes to the KSI.

I do think that KSai is going to win. Because that sleeper aspect, everyone, you know in Hollywood, like everyone fucking slept on him, all these girls club promoters, like the basic Hollywood dick riders, like they don't even know who the fuck JJ is. Nope. They don't know anything about boxing. Yeah.

Most of them don't know shit about boxing. I'm not claiming to know a shit a ton about boxing. But I do know a little, a thing or two about how a fight goes and how much energy, like, factors into that. Like, I've seen fucking guys half the size of somebody else knock a motherfucker out because they had that energy because a dude grabbed his girl's ass and he was fucking mad. You know what I mean? And knocked a fucking, you know what I mean? A six-foot fucking 250-pound dude out. That's just like the energy.

KSI has that. He's an animal in a whole. Like Logan is an animal. You look at him. He's a fucking animal. KSai is an animal on a whole different fucking... And the size, too, people like put so much weight into the fact... No, but Unended.

Put so much weight into the fact that Logan was so much bigger. But he really wasn't. They weighed in. He weighed 199 pounds. It's not about that. It's the reach. He looked a lot bigger than him. Yeah.

Not when they were in the ring together. Did you see them stand next to each other in the ring, square enough? They looked pretty fucking even. You know what I mean? Like, stance up and shit. Like, they looked like... Like, JD so fucking Jay is a big boy. I don't blame anyone for saying that Logan Paul was going to win.

I really don't blame anyone because if you just look at them on paper, you look at the reach, you look at the height, you look at all this stuff. You know, I feel like, you know, Logan is probably a better traditional boxer, right? But KSI is an ant. Like he's, you don't expect to see these haymakers come in, like, from left and right. I will say this. I think this is going to do a lot more good for JJ than it's going to do bad for Logan, if that makes. Like, KSI's king. Because the ultimate goal, I think, from this is, like, if

Logan or KSI could go on to become somewhat of a legit boxer that could fight non- YouTubers, that would be gigantic for their career trajectories. It just seems like that now is a realistic potential thing for JJ and not

Logan, because Logan now still has to, like, prove himself within the YouTube arena. I think we all fucking win, though, again, for the internet, for fucking for the culture. Do you think Vatali has a chance against KSI? How do you think that would go out? Do we know much about his skills?

I don't. I don't know a whole lot. He's cloud chasing harder than anybody involved in this. Boxing is a very technical sport. Did you fucking see what happened? What? Yeah, talk about it. Talk about it.

Because you were there. Yeah, no. You guys hear about it? I don't know if I should talk about it. No, no. Everybody's talked about it. On the internet and shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

People were saying Vitaly, like, it was. Okay, so yeah, I was actually in the fucking row. first of all, Bradley Martin is a fucking animal. You want to talk about a fucking absolute fucking certified beast? Bradley Martin would fucking dismantle 99.99%. I wonder how he is as a boxer though.

I wonder if he would really wash Logan. Well, listen, I saw him throw a fucking clean right jab at Vitale and it connected and I would not want to be able by that. Yes. There's footage of this? Yeah. Bradley Martin film. Who was right next to him?

No, no. Somebody was right next to him filming the whole thing. I fucking forget. get I saw it wasn't he wasn't with either of them but somebody filmed the whole fucking thing it's somewhere I don't know what they're gonna do we should search that on YouTube just to see if it's there no they're probably gonna I don't know but let's show it up here and not show it on the stream because we'll probably get fucking age restricted or something but if we could watch it that would be amazing but Vitaly's energy yesterday like I saw it some people were really uncomfortable

around him he was being fucking kind of crazy and he just is crazy like he's a good dude I fuck with Vitale I fucked with him same same and I didn't feel any attention from him or any weird energy, but like Mike, like he, like, bumped into Pam and Greg and like bullied his way through the fucking thing and Mike was really mad at him and then some other people were talking shit to him. He was acting weird as hell. If you watch my blog,

there's a clip of him ordering like a triple tequila shot at the bar and he's very like, come on man, just hook me up. Let's go. It's like super weird. I'll give you $100. Take care of me all night. He pushed Bradley Martin's neck and I think he was just fucking around. I don't know. He pushed or punched? He pushed. No.

Oh, Petsalry like aggressively like grabbed like Bradley's neck and like fucking shoved it and Bradley Martin just like just straight instinct like tagged him and he fucking kind of rocked him. Wow. It was five. I love that sound effect. Can you do that again? Huh?

The sound effect. I don't know if that translates to the viewers, but in these headphones, that's snap. That's something cool. I want to see that. I want to see Vitaly get his chin checked by Bradley Martin. That sounds incredible. It was crazy. That's great concept.

But then they hugged each other. Yeah, yeah, but then they hugged each other, right? It was like, it was one of those things, like, we've all been there. Like, there's a dude who's way too drunk at a party. He's being way too grabby, way too aggressive. And someone just rocks them. And it's like, all right, I mean, it's cool. Like, you were being whacked, like, whatever.

It was kind of like that. Where did you guys all go for the after party? Because I went home and got my butt eaten by a 19-year-old girl, and you guys went out and got crazy somewhere? I didn't get crazy. I didn't get crazy. Oh, right. No, drink November.

So I didn't really get crazy. I played that fucking 4K game cube until 8am with some homies. But you are nutting. Nutting? Yeah. I didn't nut last night. But I am absolutely. No nut November.

That's stupid. That's fucking stupid. You're going to get ball cancer, bro. You're a fucking sacked. You're going to get nut cancer. Hey, shout out to Lull. That's the only Lull Mask. Fuck yeah.

Shout to Lent. I just seen it in the chat. Low Massachusetts. Lowell Mass. Also, I just want to say this too is that I'm back on Facebook. Are you? I guess I'm just bored because today we had a meeting.

We're going hard on Facebook. We're trying to make our content go up on there. Make a TikTok. Follow me. Facebook.com slash Adam 22. I'm thinking about making a TikTok. It's blown up. I don't know what the fuck to put it.

I don't know what I would put on. Everyone is going over to TikTok because they think like money's going to come in and everyone's going to get paid. I don't think so. No, this is the one that like actually as far as growth goes, it is the fastest growing platform. And it's proven that people who are blowing up on TikTok, like the top, the top tier TikTok people are,

they're using TikTok to blow up their other social media to then turn that into revenue. Just for the purpose of growth, TikTok's actually. How much time do we really fucking have? I mean, you have like 5,000 employees, so it's fine. You have like the whole Florida we work. For me, it's like, do I really want to hire an employee and just tell them like, find a way to make no jumper TikToks?

Well, it's a different audience over there too. I mean, these are really, really young kids over at TikTok. Like, it's, it's shocking. Dude, a buddy of mine makes the worst content ever. I mean, it is just complete garbage. Over, I love you. Shout out to Over. But this dude.

Oh, he's killing it. But this is his content, right? He goes up into like this little kid. I don't know if it must be his friend or cousin or something. This little kid's playing Fortnite. And he's like, I'll give you these easies if you get nine kills in Fortnite. Right. Can you get Justin Wang in them outside?

Or Lou or whoever. And then they, kid gets nine kills and he gives him the easy that's the fucking tic-tok and the thing has like 200,000 views like ticot's weird but at the end of the day what is the fucking value of getting 200 000 views on tic talk like yeah you're building a platform and stuff but i don't know man the cost of time is a real thing and mental health is important too and it's like can you get an employee to do a good enough job of representing you on that social network that it feels in some way authentic That's like a tough thing to achieve.

I've seen some TikToks that I've laughed at. Like there's good, there is good content on TikTok. Isn't it fucking crazy that three years ago, everyone's just like fucking YouTube, fuck every other platform. Now with the way YouTube's been fucking up, YouTube's been fucking up so much that everybody is looking to go somewhere else. And like from the outside looking in, people better pay attention to that. I think Twitter is the most valuable one.

Oh, thank God. I think that's the longest last, like Twitter, like it's just perfect. I don't know what. I don't know what I would do without Twitter. As far as really connecting with people, especially our peers and other people in our industry, like Twitter's it. Twitter's my favorite.

It's always been my favorite. On Facebook, on Instagram, it feels more like you're just promoting stuff. I'm completely abandoned Snapchat. Really? Not I. I'm there. Have you got a check yet?

No, I haven't. They're going to. They want to know what that looks like. I get an absurd amount of views. Bro, for a while I was getting, I was breaking a million every fucking story, like one, two, fucking million. in every story.

And like, I just would prefer to put that energy and that effort into Instagram. I do both. I post a Snapchat. I save it. I put it on Instagram. My Instagram story has way more,

but... What do you get? Really? Yeah. Mine's completely reversed. More stuff. Dude, my snap gets way more views than even on...

Well, I don't even know if I'm a lot to say that, but yeah. Wow. That's crazy. Do you get more opens on Snapchat or, um, or Instagram? Uh, my... Yeah, probably Snapchat. Snapchat.

I'll get a couple hundred thousand in Instagram. Instagram I'll get like 100,000. Justin Wang is in the fucking building. This is crazy. Our first time meeting. This is a strong. You're a beefy guy. I like it, man.

Look at this. Justin Wayne, this is our first time meeting. I don't feel beefy. You know, you just meet YouTubers and you don't know what their body type is going to be like. You look like you could pick a car up that was like on top of a child or something. Also, hello to all the other YouTubers who just came in and we haven't got a chance to,

you want to tell us who these are exactly? This is Nerd City. In the red shirt. The devil? He looks different. No, okay, that's the devil in the red shirt. And then we have NerdCity, right. Okay, I was...

I have Rusty Gages over here. What's that, man? How you doing? Oh, good to meet you guys. Okay, so... I just want to say you're a fucking legend. Oh, thanks. I appreciate that.

I fuck with this guy. Have you. I love history. I absolutely love history. I will fucking hear about the history of anything. It doesn't matter. I just, I get into it. This guy does the history of the fucking internet.

And as soon as I seen his content, I fell in love. Like, dude, I remember you hit me up. And it was like... A little closer. I had like a thousand, not a thousand, like 10,000 subs. And you're like, yeah, where the fuck have you been? Yeah. It was like you're a bitching the Mortal Kombat video.

How are you doing it? I haven't checked in it in a while, but are you doing well? Yeah, it's doing really well. Amazing. What's your channel out to now? Um, coming up on 500,000 subs. That's dope. I feel like you're a very underrated.

That's amazing. That's amazing. Yeah. Under subbed YouTuber. You'll probably have a couple of million. You are like a year. Just keep out of. You're one of those ones who will do it.

I mean, I didn't. really understand. I always wondered it, but I never really bothered to figure out whether two girls one cup was real, and now I know that it really is ice cream. Or a Sherbird or something. It's not poo. I forgot if it was poo.

I made the whole fucking video I forgot about. No, I remember because you said that you found like a quote from like the dude who made the movie and he said that sometimes he would use ice cream. And to me, that explains the whole thing, because those girls are gulping down that shit, and it doesn't look like they... It doesn't even look like shit. I've seen other

videos of girls eating shit on the internet. I hate to admit it, but I have. And it looks painful. Like they're not enjoying it. That's the thing about two girls in one cup is that they're loving it. Because it's chocolate ice cream. Yes. Who the fuck doesn't like chocolate ice cream? And you can clean out your butt enough that it would not even taste anything like butt. Yeah. There is, um, thing is like they're were these, uh, Brazilian companies who, um, I feel like they were. I feel like I'm watching a YouTube. I feel like I'm watching the fucking. This is so trippy. But yeah, there were a lot of Brazilian companies

that were making stuff like this. There was one actually. I was thinking about covering it for a bit, but I never got all the details together. There's this thing called swap.aVI. And basically it was something awful forum users had commissioned one of these Brazilian companies to make a porn where the girls are like transferring shit

into each other's assholes, one to the other, like a chain rule. just moving back and forth the actual turd commissioned by something I'm gonna throw up there are a lot of videos on his channel that I can't watch

right I just I refuse right the jar kept on making out to the timeline you're like dude if I see that cum jar again I gotta unfollow you

yeah dude like no I have so much respect for the cum jar dude I can't believe you even got that on YouTube I just released my toy right and I'm reading through the replies And fucking one of the replies I swear to God is I can't wait to put this in a jar

I fucking I could feel it in my throat it's gonna I blocked that fucker by the way Every single YouTube that comes out now it's someone's taking the picture with the jar yeah oh no That's if if I ever wind up getting one I'm 100% gonna sell Wang jars alongside them Yeah that's way like because it's it's a no brain I find just a little bit of a pun to a Wang jar just in just in Wang is such an interesting idea for a YouTuber because it's like if it's like if you take some dude that's like in bands and stuff and doesn't live in LA and maybe has like a different sort of East Coast type sensibility and then he also is just really into like weird internet knowledge and then he actually is able to talk on camera enough to make YouTube videos about this very and to understand if to build an audience that wants to hear about shit that sort of like inherently should have a very small audience because why the fuck does anyone need to know about this cum jar?

I've gotten less self-conscious over time too about like I used to think that I had to make a video on a topic that everyone was going to know and whatnot but then I'm like I had a few that did really well that were just like off the wall shit that like people just wanted to hear the story

because it was there and not because they knew about it like I think urinal poop was like that what was that? Yeah so urinal poop.com was a website site where it was like it gave you instructions on the best techniques to get poop inside of a urinal and then people like we get like images from people all over the world sending poop they found or well they found in urinals somebody shit in my urinal at a party one time no you got to do it you got that dirty motherfucker I still don't know who did it but you are and listen it was we had a good

group it was a good it was things were good it was probably Jake Paul and then the whole top floor started to smell like shit and we made 905 clean it up. Oh dude. Now I know what happened to him you fucking scarred him. Yeah. That's why he's all fucked up sending out dickpicks. Limp dick pics.

Listen, I will always help for you, Nino. I love you. Yeah, it's a tough lesson to learn there, I guess. Don't... Yeah, I feel bad. I just got to do my job, Nino. If you get famous on Instagram or YouTube, don't just start sending out random dick picks. I guess it's an important thing to learn. Listen, unsolicited

dickpicks are never okay 100 times out of 100 times never ever ever going to be okay yeah if a girl's with it and she wants to see your dick don't send her a limp dick no i've noticed those going around why would you do that you know i don't want to notice those nobody appreciates a soft dick because like nobody nobody no you would i don't like a soft dick you would want to put your best first impression so like you know you want its dick at the best angle. You want it to be thronged. You want to like pop like a blue chew or something just to get the extra firmness. If anything,

there needs to be veins. That's what you're nervous about is not making your dick look vainy and bulgy and full of blood enough. So don't send a soft one. I'm like, what the fuck? It has to. It was all balls. It's kind of power play though, too. I don't care. I don't care how big you think that's

at least funny. At least that's funny. I don't even want to see a picture of a girl of just her genitals. I don't want to see just your pussy. Send me a full body naked picture. At least. With a finger with a finger in your ass. Oh, that's out of this world.

Yeah. Yeah. That's a beautiful thing. The aesthetic is everything. How did you feel about your experience watching this YouTube fight? Your first YouTube fight, I'm assuming? My first, honestly, this is like really terrible to admit. This is the first boxing match I ever went through in my life.

What's wrong with that? Me too. That's a great. It's my third and all of them were YouTubers. I went to a UFC fight one time. Maybe my first boxing match. That's why they did this. They wanted to.

collect new, new fans and new eyeballs. There's a lot, I feel like more people, like more often than not would have, this would have been really the first time they'd been engaged and really cared about watching a Yeah. Yeah. That's true. We don't give a fuck about the health of boxing, but realistically, I think the boxing community is looking at this like, oh, wow, this is where it's at for us now.

Yep. Yeah. Which is important. They'll always have that, I guess. Celebrity boxing matches, they'll always have that. Yeah. That shit was cool, man. Bad baby tweeted out today.

Bad baby tweeted out today. that she was hit up Jake and Logan tagged them and said, yo, give me a million dollars and I will fight WoVicky. Bad Baby did that. Yeah, she did that today. So I'm trying to find a million dollars real quick because I'm trying to get that fight. They can make an Emmy each off that. DeZone should probably give them a money.

No, they should do that. They could headline a fight. I think it would be good. And you could have a very, very good undercard underneath that. But do you think that when you accept a boxing match as a fucking, celebrity because a lot like all these times that this has happened in the past when you see a celebrity go and do a fucking m-ma fight-up boxing matches basically like i'm saying my career is over the only the last way that i can monetize my existence is to basically put my life on the line

not in this new world it's changing this new world because logan and ks i are not you know they're not falling off they're not like at that stage and they're not dust and diamond they had real beef which is why i got so it's they're they're on top and they decided to do that which is different than just being like a loser. Like when Fusi does it and he's not at the height of his career, it's different. Yeah, yeah, it is.

It's transparent and organic and the purpose is just for ticket sales and eyeballs and stuff. It becomes a little bit. And I think Fuzi needs to get some fucking credit, dude, for not falling down. Like, did you see his fucking face? Like, I don't...

I sat next to him during the whole fight. I fucking love Fusi, man. I really do love him. He has heart. Like, he's another one that actually... He doesn't have skill in that ring. But he has hard. We all fuck up, but he's taken, he's taken,

I feel like, won too many L's recently. I'm really hoping for a win for him. He's got a new series where he does the cribs. It's good. It's actually good. It's actually good. He did Logan's crib. It's weird though, because the thing that made Fusi

interesting was always just how unhinged he was, and then he might just be crying or tripping out, and there's this mysterious addiction that we never even found what it was officially. Yeah. I saw Fusi and Vitaly in the general vicinity of each other yesterday. I'm not sure.

We were all in the same section. I met Slim, too, and I was just like, oh, my God, dude, you're such a legend for what you did to Fusi. He just was so hyped. He was like, thank you, man. I mean, just beat the shit out of Fusi. That's what I mean about a fight. Dude, if you look at Slim, and I mean, no disrespect by this.

You look at them staying next to each other. You don't know either one of them. You don't expect. You don't expect that. You don't expect that outcome. I don't know why people were sleeping on JJ. It's crazy. Jay J.J. did great, man.

He showed him, man. He outsmarted him. He fucking outsmarted him. Do you think that it really feels like a loss for Logan, though, because they are contesting it and because allegedly the two-point loss. I was with Logan last night. I was with Logan last. Watch the tape. Watch the tape.

He grabs him, holds him. You can't do that. Does a fucking uppercut on him. Punched him twice as he was going on. You can't do this shit. Hold on. I never even got to explain. We just fucking argued about why it wasn't a draw.

And I think KSI, without a doubt one, I want to explain that. KSI, I took the first three rounds, for sure. Like, I watched the fight like Casey. I beat him the first three rounds. He had him against the ropes. He had him on his back feet, the whole fucking, the whole way through that. And where it shifted, the energy shifted, and Logan

kind of started to come, like, overcome that. It's when he fucking, like, JJ saw fucking stars, you know what I'm saying? He, like fucking halfway knocked him out when he did that when he, like... Yeah, yeah. But you can't do that. What he dragged him down? You're not allowed to do that. So it's like, like, if that had never happened,

everyone's using that as like, Logan doing that made Logan lose, but he really didn't because he gave him the upper hand in the sense that he fucking rocked JJ with that hit. Right. Yeah. And J.J. had to sit over there and he was like not the same after that. And not only that. He got fucking. But he got points for the takedown that he never should have gotten, right?

He got two points for the takedown and lost two points for the illegal hit. I haven't watched a bunch of. But he never should have gotten the takedown because he held on to the back of his head where he couldn't back up and did an upper cut. illegal. He never even should have got the takedown points. I think that I haven't watched a whole bunch of videos and actual boxing analysts and professionals. I'd be interested to see what they have to say because I'm sure they're all covering it. That's what I'm hearing is that there's a lot of like boxing professionals who think that them taking away two points. So that is very out of line and people saying that they

haven't seen two points taken away since Mike Tyson bit what's his name's ear. The referee, the referee said that like in this match right well either way there's minor j one by two points right so even if they only took away one i'm not sure but it was a split decision so it was definitely close the referee said in this match that there's warnings there's misdemeanors and there's like felonies in boxing and what logan did was a fucking felony he's like he you the the other fighter is wounded he's going down you can't punch him when they're going down like that you just cannot do that in the back of the head right right Right. Right. I would really, I would like to see Logan as an MMA fighter more than I, more than as a boxer, because I feel like those fights are a lot more decisive quite often. Like in boxing, there's all these technical little things. Why was it only six rounds?

Because all the fights before were 12 rounds. Yeah. Was that a legal thing? That's why we'll actually never find out, like, who's the better boxer in this stuff? Because it shouldn't be six rounds. It's probably just what they negotiated because neither of them wanted to go that long. Because if you go that long, then it's a way higher chance. that you're going to actually see a knockout or something.

I thought KSI won the first fight. If it went another round, KSI had it. I really genuinely thought KSI won the first one. And he won the second fight, like KSI won. I think that's fair to say. He definitely won. Oh, I mean, he fucking... He outsmarted him.

Like, I don't know. I think Logan is a natural athlete. I think that, you know, his boxing was okay, but just J.J. outsmarted him. You know, we'll sit right behind? Who? Fucking Greg and Pam. Wow.

So you thought about giving Greg and Greg. Did you see Greg in the fucking VIP? Yeah, I talked to him. I saw him there too. What? How'd that conversation go? I was just so I'm just like, I fuck with you, man. Like, I like, I like, and I watch you in the videos.

I think it's tight. You were like making your kids work out really hard when you're a kid and shit. Like this shit. People loved this last time, bro. This little trick I do with the fucking chip bag, they loved it. But yeah, he was a cool guy. I was like, I couldn't remember if he was divorced from the Pampster or not. But yeah, like, fucking, what we were talking about?

I forget. Greg Paul. Greg Paul. Great American. Do you think it makes any sense because Jake Paul is now acting like he wants to fight KSI? Is there any logic to that at all? No, absolutely not. But there is in a sense that I'm telling you right now, the fight that will bring in the most viewers and get the most excitement is Jake Paul versus KSI.

There is not another fucking human on this planet that will bring in more views than Jake Paul. And this is why. one, Jake Paul still has that kid audience, and they will fucking get mom's credit card and buy the fight. Two, everyone above the age of 12 wants to see Jake Paul laid out on his fucking back. We want to see it happen, right? So I think that's the biggest fight. There's no other fight that you could put together that would be bigger. The fight goes, I agree fully with him.

As far as JJ and his, where he goes next with all this, I don't think it makes a whole lot of sense. As far as Logan goes, it makes no sense. Like, that's a lose-j-j should never box again. He should never box again. You really think? He took out Logan Paul. He defeated Logan Paul. Self-made multi-millionaire.

You never boxed again. You did it. If we're basing his next opponent on fame, where the fuck does he go up from here in terms of YouTubers? There is no one. Yeah. And I'm not saying that Jake Paul is even on his level because he's not. Jake Paul has fallen irrelevant.

But he's famous in the same. he has. You never miss a chance to take that shot, huh? It's true. Look at his numbers. I mean, fucking get Social Blade out. Even though YouTube fuck that up. Yeah, fuck YouTube for that one. We got creepy-up. Oh, Mike said y'all are scumbags for not running

back with me for the recap. Jesus Christ. Mike, get your dirty ass over here right now. He just got done telling everybody that you weren't a clout chaser and look at this shit. Mike, I just fucking rode your dick live for 30 minutes. Let's see if we can get Mike's stupid fucking opinion.

Yo, it's good, you fuckbag. You're live on no jumper, you piece of shit. What's going on? What's good, you're scumbag fucks. Hey, you're not here, so we're talking about you. That's just how this goes. Yeah, because I'm consoling my poor, poor friend.

What's his state like? How's he doing? He's chilling, bro. He's chilling. He's absolutely fine. We went out last night. Head held high. I heard it was boring.

I heard it was a week. Party, party with banks. Party with some girls. He got his dick wet, dude, he's living life. He got his dick wet, so he finally, he busted a nut, even though he was holding it in for a while, allegedly. Yeah, bro. Did you ask him what it looked like?

What did it look like? What did you say? Was it a lot? Yeah, I like two weeks without busing a nut one time, involuntarily, and I fucking, I fucking, I'm fucking shot, like, no, I'm serious. It's a real thing. You like, get the company hand and, like, flit it was fucking crazy.

These motherfuckers are the most disgusting. people I know. You're visibly uncomfortable. Yeah, Mike, so you can't come here. How long are you all going to be on for? And do you have coronas and chips or no? Probably all night. We have the ritos.

You're going to have to bring coronas. We could possibly put in a postmate's order. Justin Wang is here. We got chips, Mike. Wow, that's a lot of shit. So that's what life is like. We did Justin Bieber last night. Now it's Justin Wang.

I want to see Justin Bieber's Wang. I want to see Justin Bieber's Wang. Yes. No, you don't. Yes, I do. Mike said that like he's seen it It's grotesque I put a tweet out squashing the beef between me and the side bend

Oh yeah you just put out a tweet Trying to squash the beef Why would I mean listen I mean listen bro like I don't even know the guys I don't know KSI but when banks And everybody at Faisclan tells me that they're the homies And that they're cool people I don't want to have some shit with these people

I've never been met because of a fight that's now over Right Don't fall for it Mike's job is to make Logan cool with everyone and to save his career. Don't fall for it. This is all PR stunt. A big PR stunt. Don't do not fall for it.

I love Kim and Mike's dynamic. It's so funny. Let's be honest, bro. Does the kid need his career saved? They paid them XX millions of dollars. It's not about money. It's about views. It's about views. No, no, no. In my big fucking world, in my big fucking world, with my big fucking views, it's about views. But your views ain't big right now, dog

They're pretty big I'm broken two million in a while, dude Oh, 1.7, ooh, that's bad I get more views on snap This is the lamest conversation I've heard to watch You guys Well, listen, your boy is about to have a fight, right?

Well, he just had this fight, right? So you had all this promotion, all this hype And KSai just crushed them On the numbers over and over again Are you crossed him on the numbers, you said? Yeah, on the views, on the views. Oh, what? On the pre-flight show?

Just everything. Everything that goes out, KSI's get more views. Yeah, I mean, no, I don't think anybody's trying to say that's not true. I mean, well, that said, like, Logan's got videos out in the past couple months that have, you know, look at his last video. He's got 7, 10, million views, like, his videos have been getting a lot of views, too. Mike, let me ask you this. Where does Logan go from here? Do you think he's realistically going to fight again

and who could he end up fighting? I'll be honest with you. I don't want to speak for him. I definitely think he steps in the ring again. He's saying he's saying that if the right exhibition fight comes and the bag is right, which will happen.

He'll do it again. But honestly, dude, like, yo, here's what happened last night. Logan had multiple opportunities to finish KSI last night. After that uppercut, call dirty call whatever you want KSI was finished anybody could have walked in the ring

put 15 poundings to him and put him to put him to sleep would anybody here argue that I was just fucking die yeah I'm just gonna say Mike that it's stupid for KSI or Logan to ever fight again you guys did what you did I agree KSI

KSI could get a huge bag now like KSI get a huge bag is the winner not not worth it you could probably pull like 10 minutes bro I'm not even kidding but wasn't this about Logan talked about this, like he really wanted to make this the rest of his life. Like when he got done with this fight, he was going to keep training

and he was going to make this like the centerpiece of his whole life. What happened to that? Do you think that that realistically was pre-fight cap? Was that ever really the plan? It was never cap being that goes into fighting and all the sparring that happens and going into the ring with the intention of killing your opponent. And I think last night, he had a realization about himself that he doesn't want to to hurt somebody.

Like, he just doesn't want to do that. Like, like I said... Listen to the PR man work. Because D. D. Murk, most ferocious punched the fight,

not the holding one, but the one before it, the first uppercut. Okay, okay. After all that happened, JJ was stumbling around the ring. I'm screaming from the ring. Finish him.

Put him in the fucking ground. Mortal combat. He were not even working. He was done. All he had to do was wall back him. Punch him until he went down to the ground. And I asked Logan this morning, I said,

yo, if I was standing in front of you with my hands behind my back, and all you, had to do is put me down like a fucking dog. Would you be able to do it? And he said, I don't think so. It's not something I have, I want to do.

His brother, Jake has that switch. Jake has that switch. Okay, let's talk about Jake, Mike. Do you think that Jake completely fucked himself by saying that boxing is rigged, all the sports are rigged? Like, who is going to put fucking Jake Paul up for a fight after saying that shit? Jake had a lot of emotions running last night. And cocaine?

No, no, no. Why the fuck was he saying this shit? He had a lot, he had a lot of emotions. His brother, you know, was, you know, had just lost the fight of, you know, what, what Jake believed was, you know, incredibly important to his career. And, you know, he had a lot of emotions going. He was, he was saying a lot of things that, you know, we know the fight wasn't rigged. At least I do.

Logan knows that. Like, we know the fight was not rigged. There was no rigging. we were back and forth on whether or not the two points were fair. The last time two points were taken off or something was when Tyson B. Vanderholyfield's ear off, or maybe not the last time,

but that was the same point deduction. And so it's like, I think Jake just let his emotions get the best of him and he says some shit that he should have. Well, Logan, too. I mean, obviously, he's punching a guy in the back of the head as he goes down. He didn't get decued. He didn't fucking.

They continue to fight when he bit his year off. Yeah, yeah, after. Real quick, Mike, the biggest fight that can happen next on the internet, right? The absolute biggest fight is JJ and Jake Paul. Do you disagree? I think it's the big I want to see Jake and Gibb, dude. I want to see that too. I want to see that really bad and be interested to see how that goes down.

Because like I said, the big thing, dude, with the fighting is when you start to taste blood and like a dog, when a dog tastes blood, they know they're on to something. And that's when that killer instinct kicks in. And Logan just, bro, Logan just doesn't do that kind of shit. Well, Jake does it. I mean, we saw him versus Deggy, right? He was tasting his own blood. I just don't think you need to have the killer instinct to punch somebody in the face

when you're in a boxing ring. Adam, you do. Because it's not to punch him in the face. It's the, that's how you don't lose a fight. Logan went in the fight last night trying not to lose. lose. KSI went into the fight trying to kill his opponent, which is how you have to be. Shannon Briggs is a savage. Shannon Briggs carries that mentality through every part of his life.

He carries it in the ring and off the ring. When you talk shit to Shannon Briggs on the street, he will put you in the fucking ground. He doesn't care what the penalty is. He's a psychopath, dude. Shannon Briggs versus Vitaly. There we go. There we go. No drug test for either one.

No drug test. Did they get drug tested? That's something I was wondering. Is there any possibility that they could have done steroids and gotten away with it? No, absolutely not. They were drug tested according to national doctors are. That's cool. Realistically, what does Logan Paul do from here?

Music. He's going to do music. He's got music bagging, by the way, it's good music. He worked with very, very, very good producers on it with a VG team, and he was in Sweden, locked up in the studio for shit a month. a month and a half making music and it's it's good music but there's a lot i mean there's a lot of stuff he can do he can go he can go back to daily content like he there's a lot of things he can do and you know we we love fucking impulsive and we love you know that whole vibe there's there's a million

different ways this can go jake jake said on air last night me and him just got an offer for an tv show you know what i'm saying and so like there's a lot of there's a lot of shit going on like there's a lot of stuff that can happen and so it's it's pretty hard to uh it's pretty hard to say but I don't think it's going to be more fighting, though. Interesting. I was looking forward to Logan's, like, rebirth as a fighter, but I guess that's not really going to happen. Maybe.

Oh, I got him right here. He just locked out. He's in his underwear. You like that, huh? No, not, no, actually. But I'm used to seeing it. Adam 22, Team Star, Banks, all on air right now, on no jumper. Talking about you.

No love to Justin Wang. I was waiting for him. He forgot my fucking name is. He's a fucking scumbag. He's pet his dog. Any, any thoughts? I just gonna see what we were doing. I think he was taking a nap or something.

Yo. I'm sure there's gonna be enough opportunities for press. I want to comment from Logan about what Jake said about it being rigged. I want to comment directly from him. Leave more. Leave the fucking hit alone. No, I don't think it's rigged. Thank you.

Thank you, Logan. That was Logan. Thank you. No, yeah, I don't know It obviously wasn't a rig I was last night's I just wanted I won it on air How was the nut last night

Yo my god I want to know that please Logan Logan How big was it for real Spider-Man shit? Because I know I know Did it fucking shoot super far too?

Was it like just crazy Yes Oh Jesus Mike was there It landed on Mike's face That's why Mike has a black eye right now Yeah Ben's got to witness me

All fired up last night Oh yeah Yeah yeah yeah Mike's a real one Bad bad Someone was talking Someone was talking shit to Evan And Mike was really about

To fucking knock him out Ooh So all of a sudden The fight's about to start And I hear the guy behind me go Hey Peter Dinklage sit down Oh shit To Evan

To Evan To Evan He turned around I go What the fuck did you just say And he goes, I don't say nothing. I go, what the fuck did you just say? I go, I'll fucking kill you in this fucking coliseum right now.

End your fucking life, dude. And then he started shit with the security teams, and his whole squad got booted. They all got removed. They were all the security guys. Damn. People call me Peter Dinkler all the time. That's your porn name. I'm down.

Peter Dinkler. I know a porn star named Trey Shlongs. That's amazing. Do you really? I know a porn star named Emily Willis. Me too. I know her even better after last night. I know.

I was having a hard time even hanging out with her because I didn't want to give her too much intel about how you feel about her, you know? How long you fuckers gonna be on for?

Probably a long time. We haven't even got started. We're just chilling. Yeah. Banks brought like 15 different flavors of chips. This, I'm fine. I feel like we're missing

and go around. Oh, wait, grab them and come over. Dude, every time I'm on a live stream, Joe Rogan dies. They always want to convince you

that Joe Rogan, little pump, Lilzanne, they're all dead. I can't believe how many times Joe Rogan has died. It's unreal. Sometimes they actually fool me and I'll actually Google it. Can we get a rip Joe Rogan in the chat? No, you're going to regret saying that.

Yo, Mike, holler at me if you want to come through, all right? All right, all right, brother. Appreciate you, Jay. Peace out, you, sick, partner. I should have told him he needs a new nickname. He does. He needs an actual nickname. It's cool that he heard the beginning part where we were basically just, like, tearing apart his entire life.

That was fun. I knew he'd hear it. I stayed up and put on my name. iPhone vlog from last night and it still has not been reviewed from YouTube. Let me get a RIP Joe Rogan in the chat if you know what that's all about. Look, I want to show you Mike's name in my phone. Like Logan Paul. What do we put him in that title?

His name in my phone is literally Mike Logan Paul. Yeah. Did we? No, Mike from Impulsive. Mike from Impulsive. That's what it was. Mike from Logan Paul's ball sack. Do you think they'll ever have a falling out and do some like dramatic breakup shit?

I don't know. I don't think so. No. Not. No, Mike would never. You're a fucking... Mike would never. He would never. Yeah, but everybody, you know, there's a lot of falling out.

You ever have, like, a big beef or somebody online? Yeah, I think Mike's gonna be one of those... Oh, sorry, go on. I've had a few people, like, oh, I guess more recently, kind of be like, hey, like, you should have, like, talked to me before I made this video. But I haven't really done anything that really, like, steps on anybody's shit. There were the Maddox videos. He was pissed about those?

I mean, I never really, like, interacted with the much. He just, like, automatically, like, blocked anybody who followed Dick Masterson after they had their falling out. Okay. But he did, I guess, like, talk to me about the videos when I saw him at VidCon. But it wasn't anything, like, too serious. Yeah. That's what you need.

You're not a real YouTuber, and so you have, like, a massive blowout. Have you ever had a falling out with a YouTuber? Not that I can think of. But doesn't it feel, like, ancient... fucking history when you think about like the Keemstar beefs and shit like you can barely even remember like why the fuck would anyone care of great A under A

whatever the fuck his name was said some shit about you It just seems so irrelevant It's the cancel culture people just love that shit But now everybody's been canceled People love to fuck somebody's life up What would it take that you To get you into the ring though game Dude I don't know

It's not money it's really not money That wouldn't do it After watching what happened to Fusi I mean that made me so much more turned off to it like, holy shit. I don't want to have anything even close to that. Banks has an interesting take, right? Like, boxing is not a fucking street fight.

It's not the same thing. It's not like, I hate you. I want to fucking beat you up. It's just so different, right? It's like chess, right? And you, I don't think you can, like, he went in there and said, you know, Logan needed to be a killer. I don't think it's that, dude.

I think it's a lot of fucking mental. Like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. You know, it takes a lot to do those motherfuckers trained every day for months. I just don't understand how can you be in the ring. It's your job to come here and knock this fucking fool out. Everything relies on it. I can't imagine what it would be like to be in the ring and to have just injured him and to have a clear opening and not take that opening.

Like to me, I can't even imagine that as an excuse. Like he didn't, he doesn't have the killer instinct enough to finish things there. It's just like, that's the name of the game. Yeah, yeah. There's no, I mean, this is just bullshit from like. Like, what is he saying? What the fuck is he saying? Oh, Logan doesn't have the killer instinct to win a boxing match.

And Jake does now? Like, what the fuck? What does that mean? Like, Jake is, like, now they're trying to paint Jake as if he was this, like, street fighter thug. Like, he's always been the bad one. Yes, guys. Logan Paul trained for fucking two years, did two boxing matches to let JJ win. Yeah, that's what he was doing because he doesn't have the killer instinct.

Yeah. It's a lose-lose for Logan of Jake and him fight, though. If Jake somehow beats KSI, then um oh if jake were to somehow beat kSI fucking logan would look like the biggest herb ever like he would look so bad but look people keep saying that logan claimed he was sick did you hear that quote okay okay let's hear about this okay Logan was sick okay it was rigged the two points didn't count ks i was hanging out with the refs i was hanging out with the ref KSI was hanging out with the ref

fucking Logan doesn't have the killer instinct. How many fucking excuses can we fucking hear? Take your goddamn hell. The end of the human body versus a human body. The people who are fucking officiating these things have been doing this for a lot longer than we have. They have a way better understanding of the sport. There obviously

is no biased or fucking fixing going on. KSI beat Logan. That's it. That's just it. It just is what it is. That is what it is. They both should be, I think they should both be super proud of themselves. And I think I think, and I really believe that KSI gave way more respect to boxing than Logan Paul ever did.

Logan Paul was being a clown out there, and I'm not meaning that in a mean way. I mean, he was being a showboat, right? He was putting on a show. He was fucking, KSI was just focused on fucking being a good boxer, and he deserved it. Logan did a better job of marketing himself as someone who was getting ready for a fight. Agreed from the outside looking in, but if we look at Social Blade KSI, you know, in the views. But KSI just is a more popular person, which is kind of shocking because he's like, he's the black guy, so you'd think that he would appeal to less people as a white guy. And he's from England, which you'd think would appeal to the English people. But Logan is such an enemy to so many people. Like, it's underrated how many people look down. No, but it's true. There's so

many people that look, that really dislike Logan. And there's not really a good reason to dislike KSI. Yeah. No, there isn't a good reason. I mean, KSI is a good dude. If you want to dislike Logan Paul. There's a very easy couple of reasons to latch on to. With KSI, if you don't want to like them, you probably just would ignore him if you didn't like them. So it's easy to see how KSI's fan base is so invigorated

for this kind of shit. Well, here's one thing about UK YouTube. Okay? UK YouTube, everybody has each other's back. Everybody helps each other grow. I mean, it's a tight-knit group where on fucking American YouTube, like, we're all in fucking street gangs

out there. like that's what it's really be like that like remember the days of the fucking team 10 versus a clout house I mean it's just this what it is KSI is a hero of England and Logan Hall is definitely not the hero

of America in the same way he's very all-American though yeah to the people definitely definitely definitely the MAGA candidate I just if he was about the fight before them why did it low-key kind of look like

a junior KSI versus that weird ass white with the blonde hair and shit yeah it looked like he kind of like the default versions of them yeah yeah yeah like the level one versions of them have you guys been seeing these slapping contests so i mean no that white dude so good he was really fighters yeah but what about the dude with all the tattoos and the weird facial piercings and shit and he just gets clobbered by this monster when i'm watching that shit at first i'm not sure how hard they're really allowed to hit each other because a lot of times people are just slapping the cheek but then all of a sudden you

have a dude come through and just completely destroy their jaw. Here's one thing, from a drama alert standpoint, I know based on my research, Logan Paul really did fucking slap and knock the fuck out of that kid. Like that, that big guy. That's 100% real. Oh, okay. They tried to spin it

like it was fake and he was paid to go down. No, that was real. Didn't the guy he slapped come out with something like a while later, but like trying to deny it or something like that? Oh yeah, he came out with a ton of excuses. And then Logan listened to those excuses and use them for this fight, you know?

Okay. I love you. How do you not make excuses about it? Well, I mean, could you avoid it if you were Logan? Dude, this is the mistake all these social media fucking kids make is you can't make excuses. You just have to be real about shit. People really do appreciate that. Like, they appreciate honesty.

Like, when you lose a fight, you get him and you go, wow. Well, we heard Logan right now and he was like, it's not Rick. He's better now. He's better now. But in the heat of moment. It's unfair to pin all this shit on Logan because it's a lot of fucking other people saying True. True. It's his team and it's Jake.

Like, dude, I haven't, I have, have you guys heard Logan make one excuse? I know, I mean, even in. He just said that he thought he should have won. They put him on the spot. They put him on the spot with the mic. And they asked him, do you really think you slipped? Like, or do you think that was a knockdown? He goes, yeah, no, I think I slipped or whatever.

And like, he was looking over at his corner because they're telling him you fucking slipped. You slipped. Don't worry about it. You slipped. Like, that's who each, that's his team. That's his family. You know what I'm saying. He's going to trust what they're fucking saying.

Shannon Briggs was the worst thing that ever happened to Logan Paul's team. Really? He might have helped him with training. I don't know. I'm not behind the scenes. I'm not a boxing expert, right? But like his Shannon Briggs shenanigans throughout this whole thing really made Logan look really bad. I think he wanted the limelight a little bit too much.

That's kind of what came across us to me. Like I respect him as a fighter and, you know, he was a world champion, right? Like, you know, hats off to him. But like, there was a lot of fucking shenanigans going on. During the lead-up, there was a point where Logan was talking one of his videos, and he was like, you know, if I don't, you know, if this boxing thing doesn't work out for me, what am I going to do? I'm going to go back to making corny vlogs, which is kind of like an interesting way to frame it because, you know, you're someone who got famous off of vlogging and everybody knows you as a vlogger. And realistically, that's probably what your fans want from you the most. And now he's in a position where that seems like a way more logical career choice for him at this point is to get. back into doing like very regular content. Logan's got to take that break. He's got to go through that little, like,

you can't fucking walk away from something this big that you lost without depression, right? He's going to, and I'm not even saying like actual depression, but like the sadness or whatever. Being down. You got to go through that time period of being down. And then you got to build yourself back up like he's done on fucking, uh, what's the vine and fucking YouTube.

He's just going to have to fucking grind. That's all this is. He's a fucking low key little internet genius. He has some genius in him. He fully understands the way this shit works. I think he'll be all right. Well, okay. How about this?

He started impulsive. I'm going to say that it maybe did not blow up the way that he thought that it was going to. Well, it's hard to, like, the podcast game's different. And he's been very preoccupied with the fight, so I'll give him that. But it just feels like maybe he thought that that was going to be something he was more passionate about and that was going to get bigger guests and stuff. And I don't know if he would necessarily agree with that. but from me as somebody who's been watching it.

I think they're doing a good job. Yeah, I think they're actually doing all right. Yeah, I mean, the views are decent, but it just felt like they didn't really, it feels like they'd kind of run through most of the clear guests. And I think he definitely gets a pass for chilling for the past few months, getting ready for the fight. But I'm interested to see what goes on with Impulsive from here,

I guess is a way of saying it. Because it's like, if he decides to go hard with that, then that could be. In any podcast, when someone's sitting there and they have notes and they have topics that they want to go over and stuff like that, It just doesn't fucking, I can't get into it. Other people might be able to, I can't. I like a podcast like this where there's like no script, you know, like,

and people are just shooting the shit. Listen, they made it bad. Congrats to them. Yeah. They both won. Listen, they both won. I think it's insane that we're talking about Logan so much. We should be talking about fucking KSI who is now on top of the motherfucking world.

People want you to call him. Who? People want you to call him. There's honestly, it's, you could try. He's in fucking Vegas right now being a sicko with all his boys as he should. I'll text. I hope they go get a fucking hotel room and just, How hard does he party?

How hard does he party? How hard does he party? Like him partying after a fight? Like what's that gonna look like? I would hope that he just goes fucking bananas. But I don't know. But how bananas does he go? I haven't really partied.

Is he doing nose drugs? No, I would hope not. You have to get drug tested after the fight too? I don't think so. If you do coke after the fight, do you get in trouble? What is with cocaine? Cocaine's trash. Seeing people doing it last night.

Yeah, there was probably a bunch of people doing it last night. I mean, we live in Hollywood pretty much. And Hollywood is that fucking that's up. everywhere. Justin, you do any recreational drugs? Mostly just alcohol, to be honest. Like, I, because I was here, and I'm not usually here, I did a bunch of weed this past week.

But, like, if I do, like, I've already known that, like, do any amount. I just can't fucking function. But I guess I overestimated even, like, what my shitty little, like, terrible weed tolerance was. So I was basically just, like, blasted. The first two days I was saved.

Strong weed out of here. strong it's not your grandpa's weed I can't do it either I get like super fucking paranoid right and then I'm good but I don't want to go through that paradigm like the first thing

I was just on you see me on that live stream I just like start answering questions that she's not asking she's like like how are you doing or she didn't say how you doing but I'm just like I'm doing good how are you doing I'm like so fucking awkward I was just smoking wait that's awesome wait where was this on my Twitter

and my Instagram that shit was fucking funny Yeah, I'm just kind of fucking, I didn't know what the fuck to say. I was freaked out by that ladies. I could believe that I was actually on the live stream in that moment. I didn't get interviewed by them. The Hollywood life, like, grabbed me, and then we were fucking gone. Bro, TNZ hit me fucking pulled up on me four different times.

Really? Two different guys. Oh, because they were at Logan's thing. They just hit you up all the time. They're like, let me pull up and just ask you about some shit. No, I mean, just recently with the Vegas shit and all that, they've been fucking all my dick kind of. Really? Yeah, I fuck with the one guy, though.

How's that feel? Hey, can I ask you about your meeting Drake's story So you can tell it on air Since I know you're not gonna bring it up on your own I guess we can be the Mary has to tell it I'm hot I gotta piss right to tell it

I still have not met you've heard the story Yeah yeah I've already heard it All right so we went to this We went to this super like clout party Like it wasn't like Illuminati in the sense of like Rich white people But like as far as like the entertainment world And like Hollywood goes

It was about as like Fucking closed door as it gets I met Kylie that night She was good friends with Stoss I met a bunch of people Chris Brown was there A bunch of people like that right So I'm standing in the bathroom line Maybe an hour and a half two hours into the party

I'm with David Dobrick squad Mike standing right there And Drake walks down the stairs I don't know he was there I was like what the fuck that's Drake that's crazy Just kind of kept it to myself He walks past the bathroom line Glances over at the line

And I've never met you I've never met him I've never even half way bullshit met him like you gotta meet so-and-so oh cool good to meet you like that half that you don't neither of you give a fuck about me each other type of shit right um net never so much is anything like that um he walks past the bathroom line glances over keeps walking and like double takes back looks at me smiles daps me up hugs me up talk to him for a second and he walked away and everybody's like what the fuck your homies with drake like that now i was like absolutely fucking not i'm not i don't know he recognized my face and he's in like the e-sport

world. He's invested into a team. He's your op. I don't know if Drake's my op. I don't even know if Nate shot or that is. I don't know who the fuck our op is. Do you think he was thinking that? This is my enemy. I thought, I think maybe not.

He showed love. It was good energy. Like, I wish Mike was here right now. It was fucking. How funny is it that his story about meeting Drake is so similar to fucking fozy tubes? Yo, he came down. We looked at each other.

No, that was actually, but mine's real, though. I know, but... Fuzi, I love you. I love you. But no, it was... I think the thoughts that were going through his head were probably like... Banks! I fucking love you!

I love banks! I love banks! He's probably... He's probably... He's probably considering the fact that he made the wrong investment, though. Foozy, you're probably watching this. Honestly, like, dude, you went crazy or whatever that was, right? But it was the best summer ever, and you made the best content on all of fucking YouTube last.

summer. I remember having to tell my girlfriend, I'm like, I know that you feel like this is just regular shit and that it's okay. It's not normal. This is a special time and we need to do everything we can to take advantage of the insanity that's going on right now because there's something in the air. You guys are running around with a documentary crew. Dude, yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. Our production team. In L.A. Yeah, we did good. Thank you. So in L.A. with a production crew. Yeah, it was, it was fucking amazing. The documentary was, I, I was. Remember the thumbnail incident? You wouldn't trust me. I'm like, dude, I'm like, do it this way. He's like, no.

And then you're all stressed out. You're low-key, a genius at YouTube. You are a fucking genius. But I was out the other day. And this fucking kid come up to me, goes, I don't know your name, but the Foozy documentary. You're a legend. That's all he knew from me is the Foozy documentary. That's your legacy. I hope so. I hope so. No, but Fuzi is obviously embarrassed and da-da-da-da. And I just want to say, like, hats off to him. He made the greatest content that year, regardless. Hoosie is a good dude. I fuck with him. But where does Fusi go from here,

especially after he lost his fight, you know? Listen, I think a lot of us, I think a lot of us should start to pay more respect to like the OG motherfuckers, because we're all going to be there one day. Most of us, 99% of us are going to fall off. Got the Romanette would fall off. There's going to be new people.

There's kids right now. There's kids right now who are fucking jerking off in Ohio or fucking Boston or in Buffalo. We don't need any more people from Ohio. Who are... Or masturbators in general. Two years from now are going to be the biggest. stars on the internet and they don't even know it yet.

You know what I'm saying? So like, we should do a better job at like helping our fucking... But it's not going to be fucking boring-ass cis white guys like us. It's going to be the Lily Sings and the Emma Chamberlains and the progressive... You're literally talking about some Luminati shit.

Like, oh, we got to give respect to each other. We need partnerships. We need to hold on to our power. I say let the young kids come up. There's some of these old motherfuckers that need to be knocked down. I'm just saying. You feed off of new content from new content creators. So for you, it is advertising. Stop exposing me.

He doesn't want people to be nice to each other. If there's 10 new tannas and they're all doing crazy dramatic shit and everybody's comments and talking about 10 more Jake Pauls, that's the thing is that somehow the YouTube world can't really sustain 10 popping Jake Pauls at a time. People can only pay attention to so many wild figures at once, right? I met Tana for the first time in person last night,

and you filmed it. And can we please play that fucking tape? Because I didn't notice it at the time, but the scream she made twice is the most unbearable sound I've ever heard. I can't even do it how high-pitched it was. If you find that on Adam's Twitter,

please play it. Guys, I feel bad because you're not as like fucking verbose as all of these assholes. Like a lot of these people, I don't follow that closely. I'm like, shit, there's like no way for me

to intelligently comment on like Fuzi. Real quick, for everybody saying call KSI, I just text him. He's like literally on a plane. He hasn't even responded my text yet, so... I'm not just gonna call.

Fusi, I don't understand you. Because that, you are into so many weirder things. Like, Fusi is way more mainstream than the cum jar. It's kind of like how, like, you ever... Is there any, like, really famous movie that, like, you, like, just didn't watch it. It's like a big hole...

You never watched Star Wars? It's like that, like, it's... I have, like, all this obscure fucking, like, cum jar knowledge and shit like that, but then it'll be like, oh, this YouTuber with, like, 10 million subscribers, never heard of them. But have you ever... tried to store your jizz like at any capacity?

I mean, here's the video right here. Oh shit. Oh, yeah. You got to listen to the fucking screen. That's how much people care about this. Are we going to switch the view in OBS as well? Cool. Make sure you don't click her.

That was the first time you ever met her. Don't click around on Twitter on camera at all. We've talked on the phone many times, but like. Twitter doesn't call. Who said that? Do you hear that shit? Like, what is that? That's how she sounded when Banks was hitting it.

She's fucking calling dollars. Dolphins. She sound like that when you hit it? No. She didn't make that fucking dolphin screech. I had that fucking hand over her mouth. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I love you.

You know that's funny. That's funny. This was three years ago. I'm sorry. I wonder how her, by the way, she was very pleasant. She was lovely.

She's a married woman. I'm sorry. Oh, Jesus. Fuck. All right. I just like this sound. Did you ever play this game? What is that?

Look at her face. Look at her face. She does a scream. One more time. No, no, no, no, no. We're not, please, please. Her fucking eyebrows, dude, the fucking V from Vendetta. If you've ever played this game, Siren,

at the end, there's a power where, like, the Japanese villagers are eating an alien as it screams, and that's what it fucking sounds like. Oh, we should call DeGy. Text DeGy. Oh, my God. I don't think I have DeGy's phone number. I do, but.

He's out of her cloud chasing. He put out of a three-minute video talking about it. I didn't see that. Okay, listen. He, he, like, never uploads anymore, and he puts out of the fucking video, my bro, one. Yeah, yeah. Can we talk about that because in the face-to-face, Logan said, he goes, look, here's the DM. Your brother, Dejie, gave me a fucking DM me wishing me good luck on the fight. All right? So if Dejy's doing that to Logan saying, good luck on the fight, and then KSI wins, and he's like saying out to the public, oh, I knew you were going to win. I love you. I made you so proud. I mean, is that some fake shit or what? He's playing both sides of the fence, huh? It's just, it's your fucking brother. It's your brother. You don't tell.

Your brother's opponent, good luck on the fight. Yeah, I don't know if I back that from Dejie, to be honest. But Dejee, I mean, I'm going to be totally honest. I've never spoken on this before, but Dejie has had so much shady disloyal behavior to his brother that just on the bare minimum of being someone's brother should not have happened. There's a lot of shit that's just distaste for him. But then his brother wins, and he melts it.

Oh, yeah. The ball of the stories, YouTube drives brothers apart. Jake and Logan have had beef. It's just, I don't know, it's weird to mix family and, like, views and dots. I just, it's really strange to me that, Like, you know, he can't just put out a tweet saying, oh, I'm so proud. Good job, JJ. Why does it have to be in a monetized forum on your fucking YouTube channel?

Like, I don't know. But I mean, if you're deady, it's like, what does he really making videos about aside from like basically talking about his brother, you know? Damn, I feel mean. I never wanted to be someone who's talking to, I'm just kind of trying to give an accurate. I like the kid, but like, dude, what? Just stop. I've spent a whole lot of time when this summer was all about fucking phase and having fun. You getting your dick wet because you're single now and you're just,

dragging your ball sack through every fucking hoe in Hollywood. Now, you get in premium booty, though. Oh, you saw your ex at the, how'd that go? It was cool. We're cool. I love Alyssa. She was wearing vintage Gior. Was she? I only know that because she spelled something on it, and she exclaimed, like,

this is Vincent Gior. My girlfriend just mentioned it. She's like, oh, that's cool. No, she was cool. She was with all the girls, Chantelle and shit. No, that's cool. Shantelle, like, is just a girl named Shantelle. and some of Shantelle Jeffries.

Well, I'm, like, I've, is it just normal? Normal, you guys are you ever funny Shantel story. It's not about Chantel Jeffries, but the same weekend in Vegas that I fucked up the hotel room, and I kind of want to use this to talk about that. Oh, let's talk about that. That weekend of Vegas, I should have known I shouldn't know what. I fucking don't ask me why. Woke up that morning and everyone's like, yo, fuck it, we're going to go.

It was art of the wild, a bunch of people from Hollywood, like our whole circle of friends, a bunch of girls, everybody was going. And I was going to sit it out But Fomo got the best of me And I woke up And they're like, yo we booked you a ticket You have to go It says like okay

What is Call of the Wilds or whatever? Art of the Wild I don't know It's just some fucking like little like festival thing That the Wain and Encore has Oh okay It's cool, it's a cool little event It's an excuse for people in Hollywood to go Okay

Yeah fucked up And go to Vegas So they booked Spirit That was number one Trash I'm above that I'm sorry Trash And I get on the fucking

complain and I'm like six mimosas deep because I'm pre-gaming for Vegas and I went to breakfast with Mike that morning and just decided to get fucking rocked on mimosas before my flight before I had to travel all day. Not all day, it's an hour flight. You have a drinking problem? No, not at all. Okay. Do you think I have a drinking problem?

No, I'm just... He just joined A.A.A. No. Anyone who's slamming mimoses with Mike in the morning? That's fucking fun. That just sounds like an alcoholic shit. No, that's fun. It was right before Vegas. I was about to send it into the fucking You've seen his hotel room. He doesn't have a drinking problem.

Yeah. I mean, when you go to Vegas, you're excused. I'm sober right now for eight days and I feel great. No, he is. I've been with him, like, behind the scenes, and there's been tons of alcohol around. Me saying that out loud, I'm sober for eight days. Sounds like I have a drink.

Yes, yes, it does. I decided to just take November off. Well, it's hard to be single. It's hard to be single and famous and rich and not have a drinking problem because you want to hang out with girls every night and they want to drink. So exactly when I was in that two-year relationship with Alyssa,

I probably got drunk fucking 20-30, times in two years. Like I was a home, but when I have a girlfriend, I'm a home body, I don't fucking go out. There's no real reason to go out. That's where I'm at, but I know if I was single all of a sudden, then all of a sudden I have to be getting drunk so I can eat booty drunk. So what I'm saying, you know how it is out here? Like, it's just like it's part of the fucking whole social game. I like to fucking have fun. You turned Hollywood. Fast. You never say some weird shit. You kind of run this shit right now, though. What makes you, what do you mean? But you're trying to run Hollywood that you still dress like super

regularly. You just wear like vintage band teas in the Boston hat. That's like your, that's like Obama saying folks. It's like you trying to like appeal to the common people and be like, look, I'm just like you. I got the same hat. I really am. I really am. I don't even have a face hat. You guys are

shitting on me. Do you guys hear the fucking story? Sure, sure. Shantel. So we're on the flight and right off the rip this lady doesn't like us. We tried to get some girls who were on the flight that we knew to move close to us. The flight's like half empty. I see her name tag is Shantel. and I'm kind of drunk, and I call her over, and I go, hey, what's your last name?

And she says it. And I go, oh, I would have thought it would have been Jeffries. And, like, the people I was with half laughed at that. It wasn't even a funny joke. But they kind of laughed, and she thought we were shitting on her. So she kind of gave me, like, some weird energy. And I tried to bring it back. I was like, yeah, chill.

Like, we're chilling. I'm sorry. I'm a little bit drunk right now. And I was in the fucking exit rows because I'm long. And I don't want to sit in the regular shitty seats. And she goes, oh, you're kind of. I'm kind of drunk right now, well then I can't let you sit there and just really pulled that car and I was like, are you fucking kidding me? I was like, are you being serious right now? It wasn't

that serious. I was like, are you for real? She's yeah, moves my seat and I was like, okay. And now my friends at this point are like, yo, please don't get kicked off the plane. Just sit the fuck down and just chill like until we lift off. They thought there was a chance you were going to snap. So I'm sitting very tight. He's waiting. And I was, I was in my head, I was like, yo, as soon as this fucking flight takes off, I'm going to fucking make myself throw up in the aisle. I'm gonna go fucking drop a fat shit in the bathroom and not door open. I'm gonna hit the little light 25 times and ask for fucking a million different weird things. I'm just gonna make this bitch's life miserable for an hour. And I'm behaving myself. I'm on my phone. It's loud. You know the

plane noise, the ambient noise on my phone. I click a song. Somebody sent me a song. I click to play it. I can't even fucking hear it from this distance. I'm holding the phone. So I put it right up to my ear. This bitch fucking all the way at the beat all the way at the front of the plane. Nobody complained, obviously about the noise comes up and now I'm fucking over this bitch you know and she's clearly being a cunt being weird and she pulls up a man I don't even look at her acknowledge her she says something I ignore it she says something again I go what she says it again I still don't hear and I go what and she goes oh okay goes up to the front of the plane now we're wheeling backwards we're like we're like pulling out the fucking plane is moving right she makes a call to the fucking pilot the pilot comes on the

over the intercom and goes, sorry, folks, we're going to have to bring this back up to the gate. We have an unruly passenger on board. He is refusing to comply with instructions from the attendants. We're going to have to kick him off the flight. This is going to delay our trip of 30, 40, 40 minutes.

Everyone starts freaking the fuck out. Everyone's yelling. Everyone's yelling at her. They all knew it was like, it was clear she was being a bitch. And then at that point, I was like, all right, fuck it. So I stand up. I start world starring it.

I'm surprised nobody recorded it, whatever. It didn't become a big thing because I didn't hear about this, right? Yeah, I know, it wasn't a big thing at all. This didn't hit the media at all. What did you say when you stood up? I was just like, are you kidding me? I was like, is this lady kidding? And like some dude next to me is like, yo, is this fucking for real?

They were all asking her, like, for real. And I pulled the old, like, put the camera out and put it anywhere. I made her feel uncomfortable. Oh, you didn't post it. No. I'm surprised somebody else didn't film it. I would have filmed it. I would have sent it to you.

I'm surprised you didn't go the angle with. You got kicked off. You fucking wish, dude. You fucking wish you. I'm surprised you didn't go with the angle that you got kicked off the plane for speaking Arabic. Because that worked with Adam Sala. Sala. Yep.

And slim. I got kicked off for no reason. Everybody I was with. I was like, I like, check myself. I'm like, yo. Did you just book another flight? Well, then I try to. And then I'm like, yo, fuck spirit.

We're going to hop on a, we're going to go on a jet sweep, book a private plane. Like, fuck it. We're going to go from fucking zero to 100. And like, we're not letting this. fuck a bar vibe yeah that didn't work out there weren't any private planes available we had to go all the way to LAX we're at Burbank it turned into a fucking like four hour travel day I debated that in my head I was like yeah I don't even know if I should fucking the worst part was to you know when you just make a flight like if you've ever seen someone just make

a flight we just made this flight so we came on the plane hyped up you know we genuinely thought we weren't gonna make this flight we're like fuck like we're gonna have to book another flight whatever and we just made it we were excited Vegas is gonna be dope bitch kick me off and then that weekend the fucking the hotel thing happened. So you were triggered, pissed off from the plane incident basically? The hotel thing had nothing to do with being mad. It wasn't

like, I didn't do that in a fit of rage. I was happy. Like, we were just sending it. Right. Yeah. You had naked women in the hotel room? No, there was actually no females present when we fucked up the room. You were having sex with your friends? Um, can you talk about that? Are you allowed to publicly talk about the consequences? Because I think that's the most interesting part.

No, listen, it's been resolved with the hotel and casino. I'm 86 for life. I'm banned forever. There's from which hotel, uh, encore and win, which is completely fine. Honestly, it sucks because it really is like the best one in big it's one of the best ones. Wow, really. Yeah, it sucks. But um, I'm 86 forever. It cost a lot of fucking money. I'm not going to talk about how much money it cost. Damn it. That's the part I wanted to hear. I mean, I know. I truthfully, to be honest, I don't know the total amount. That's what's so scary because it happened kind of a minute ago and they're still like and they can tell you that you, they're charging you whatever. Listen, listen, listen, listen. Listen.

It's a $30,000 hotel room. Why not? Like you said, 5,000 employees, we got people. We've been talking to them from the beginning. What's funny about, what's funny was like the aftermath, right? Like the immediate aftermath. Like I was like coming down from like sending it and fucking just being crazy. And like I kind of just realized what the fuck I did, especially with the window.

The window is broke. So I was like, oh my God. Like what do I do? Like how can I finesse myself out of this situation? What can I actually do right now? And I was with like five of my homies. He went out and got duct tape. No, listen.

And I actually, this is real. I was like low-key starting to panic. And I was like, when it really hit me, like, what I fucking did, I looked at my friends and I was like, yeah, I got an idea like, you guys have to beat the fuck out of me and just leave me in this hotel room and bounce. And just fuck me up unconscious and just leave me. That's a good fucking plan.

I was going to just be like, y'all know what happened. I was going to go for it, but they didn't want to be dragged in. They're going to look at the footage from the hallway. They're going to see who went in the room. time out there's no fucking cameras in hotel room hallways it's against the law to put hotel um yeah there is bro no bro yeah there is what's his name the basketball player who got caught fucking fucking so that's why that's why though because the camp i i don't know i don't know i don't no there is there is because they got the shooter remember the shooter in vegas they got him the security

footage in like the public hallways not in room like residential hallways i feel like in Vegas the security's so good that they might even be able to tell just based on who's getting on the elevator and shit so why i know i know i'm band in 86. I couldn't even walk in and like it's not about me booking a room. Like, dude, they have the facial recognition because all the gambling and shit. They'll fucking see my like, I'll walk, they told me

like the people who are in Vegas and a bunch of my friends who spent a lot of time in Vegas, they told me it would take 15 minutes for them to a group of security guards to approach me. You also been wearing the same hat every day for the last 10 years. They're making it easy on them. I have like 50 of them. And you're like seven feet tall, so. Yeah. You open your closet.

It's just all the same thing over and over. One thing, one thing I was thinking about, though, like, how old do I have to get for them to, like, not be able to recognize me anymore? Well, you could probably get a nose job. Like, 10 years. Get a nose job. Boom, you're back. No, I mean, I'm pretty sure from a, from, this is how I would do it, right? Vegas is trying to get into e-sports.

You own the biggest e-sports org in the fucking world. This is just going to be politics. This is going to be like, you know. This is a story of the rich get special favors. You're going to get a special favor. You're rich. A lot of one percent. Time out, time out.

Well, I'm not rich. No, no, no, no. That's not what I was going to say. I am fucking rich. That's not what I was going to say. What I was going to say is that's not always the case, dude. Let's talk about the Jarvis thing for a second. Like, a lot of people were arguing, like,

he shouldn't get special treatment because he's fucking famous or whatever. There's going to be a lot of people watching that have no idea what you're talking about. Let's give a little backstory. So Jarvis is a Fortnite YouTuber. That shit was huge. People. Everyone knows about that. Not everyone.

Bro, what do you mean? If you don't, if you don't know anything about this Jarvis getting banned in Fortnite type of one on the chat. There's you're going to see someone. It was huge. Not everyone knows. You should give us some backstory. I'm just saying.

Yeah, that was, um, it was a big, it was a big fucking thing. He was like cheating on Fortnite but for like, uh, not to win, but to lay out like to do like a like just to make a video. And he didn't hide it. Like he showed himself cheating on the game. Oh, lots of ones, lots of ones.

But go ahead. Yeah, they're fucking trolling. Like listen. Keep trolling, boys. Jarvis was cheating. He was cheating. I mean, before any of this came out, he was openly admitting to cheating.

He showed himself cheating on the game, and he was making videos and stuff. Got banned, lifetime ban. And the point, the only reason why I even brought this up, the only point I was trying to make was, in his case, being famous and being a fucking figure,

like, fucks him. Because if anybody else were to cheat on the game... Other people have done it, and they haven't got banned. Okay, but even they do the exact same thing Jarvis does, they get lifetime banned, you can't fucking stop somebody from playing Fortnite anonymously. Right. You don't need to

your fucking identification is not connected and linked to your fucking Fortnite account. Exactly. You know what I mean? Like there's no way to actually like to like lay the hammer down on that but for Jarvis like he's a public figure so everybody's watching what he's doing. Yeah. And he actually can't. So fucking

little Jimmy, 12 year old Jimmy who fucking actually cheats on the game and actually does it to fucking beat kids and all that. He gets a lifetime band and he laughs at it. I've been lifetime ban on games or 10 years ago and I laugh at it. I make a new account. Oh, I'm banned. All right. Let me go make a new email. It takes 10 minutes

and I'm back on the game. But is he going to be able to make a new account and just play on stream? No. He can't make content. Any account that he ever makes or tries to play on? They're just going to ban it. Should we call, do you want to call Bradley Martin about the Vegas thing? I'm going to hit him up right now. Why do you say Vegas? Not Vegas. I say it that way. That's nothing to do with Vegas.

I know. I don't know why I said Vegas, though. Vegas. I say it that way. Algorithm is the other word that you say wrong. I always say agorhythm. It says agorhythm. It acts like there's no fucking L. I have an accent that no one else in the world has.

You just say words wrong altogether. Hey, what's up? I'm on no jumper right now, and we were just talking about the thing with Vitali. Do you want to talk about it or not? You're on no jumper right now? We're live. We've already talked about it. We've already talked about it.

I mean, I don't go. Is it live? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're live right now. People can hear you right now. He said, I said, what up? What up, jeez? I should have text you first and warned you before I called. I'm sorry.

That's all good. So what's good? No, we're just like, what happened, right? Because, like, we heard a couple eyewitnesses talk about what happened between you and him, and we were just wondering on your take, like, what went down? Yeah, man, I mean, just, I think he was just high. He was the type of the end of the fight. I think he was trying to get on the stage or something like that.

You know, to do some fatally shit. Yeah, he wanted to challenge Logan. I don't know. Let's know he wanted to tell him to the joke. And he'd be like, what about me, fight me? And then he turned around and got like... Interesting. And the thing is he's my boy, yeah, it was just weird.

Because he just, he stepped up. As he saw on the video, like, the dude stepped up and, like, just... Wait, there's a video? There's a video? Yeah, there's a video. Where is the video? Oh, okay. Oh, we want to see the video so bad. Like I was sitting on the other side. I didn't see it. Banks saw it though and some other people. I was right there.

Bradley, you're a fucking animal. Bees. Yeah, yeah, he's here too. Yeah, yeah, he's here too. Oh, it's lit, let's go. What's up, baby? Bradley, would you ever consider doing a fight like what Logan and KS. I did last night? Well, I would love to, but like I'm too 60, so it's like, there's not really a lot of... You could fight Briggs.

I mean, isn't he a, like, a retired fucking UFC fighter? No, Shannon Briggs. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I want to fight, I don't know. I'm like this. Honestly, I just, I'll probably use the way to try and find you guys. Nah, you spent all those years building up all that fucking muscle, bro.

You can't just let go of that shit. Yeah, that's true. That's true. I got a lot. I guess. I can't just go there. It takes a lot of maintenance to keep that much fucking muscle on your frame, man. Yeah, how dry were those to keep?

Kitos last night. Fucking trash. Stable Center. Which one? Oh, there's it kitos? Oh, they were so bad. How bad? Dry as fuck.

But, yeah. Wait, so are you guys at, are you guys on Melrose? I mean, are you at his spot right now? Yeah, we're at the other spot. I can text you the address if you want to pull up. I, like, slept the whole fucking day. Yeah. Isn't it weird how those tequitos?

Like, we all go to 7-Eleven and we don't order the shitty fucking teakitos, but then all of a sudden you're in a room where they're free, and you just eat them. But when you're at 7-11, they're like a dollar. I don't understand why we're all eating those playing at times. By the way, the ones at 7-Eleven were better than the ones at the stable center. Probably, I agree. I backed that.

Yeah, we're, we're going to work on it. We're going to work on it. Roll by if you want. Oh, God, I live in the valley. I'm like, fucking a whole. Oh, shit. How long are you going to be there for? Yeah, probably like an hour, 30 minutes, something like that.

Oh, no, fuck. I'll send you this. I'll send you this clip, though. Yo, we'll brainstorm here, and we'll figure out a good opponent. Yeah, man. Think about it. All right, see, ma'am. DJ academics. Yo, I was so lazy.

Like, with that, dude, I need to work out, bro. Holding that phone that long. Your arm's starting to earn? I thought you bent in the gym, and you lose weight to fit into your suit. Not all I did is diet. That's it. Like, I just did diet. Thanks to him, dude.

Like, you helped out with that. Dieting is most... Intermitt and fasting, bro. That's what it is. Listen, it's calories in versus calories out. I wish Bradley was still on the phone because he'll fucking tell you that. And I'm not like a...

No carbs and I eat within four hours of the day. That's like a window. And that's like the window where it's like all you're eating for the day has to be... From like 2 p.m. I've gotten up to like fucking fat kid status a couple times. It's I would do like 2 p.m. to 6 p.m. There's really only so much you can eat. And I would I would keep myself, try to keep myself below like 1,500 calories.

But I did hit my goal, right? And the shit melts off. So, and KSI won the fight. So last night. I went out and had a fucking giant stack of pancakes. It was the greatest thing ever, bro. You deserve it. That was a win for you.

It's a once in a while thing. If it's like, if it's not part of like a broader lifestyle change, it'll still be on the same time. Are pancakes not the best food on the fucking planet? We can get into this right now. They're not. French dough is better.

Okay, okay. French toast are. It's the worst out of the three. By far. By far. Falafel. If you like pancakes, you really like pancakes are fucking weird.

Pancakes with real maple. Have you a lot of it? ever had the wheat pancakes with real maple syrup? Oh, dude. You're so white trash. I fucking love it. The best pancakes I'm going to be Marion Tanna next. Those shitty Criscoe pancakes

that are all like burnt around the edges of whatnot. Those are the only really pancakes that I think are. The ones that are pre-filled with the fucking little pancakes on the McDonald's. You like those? Oh, those ones. When's the last time everybody here at McDonald's? It's one of my guilty breaches. When's the last time we went to McDonald's?

shit right before I started this diet that's my favorite restaurant I love that shit Mickey D's I don't know A couple weeks ago It's a good it's a good one The sausage egg McMuffin It's like a two bucks or a dollar

I don't even know It's like a really good postmates option When you have a shit ton of hungry people At like fucking three in the morning When you're ordering postmates It gets there in 15 minutes And it's fucking cheap But that's what's so baffling

About the fucking cloud house Is that you're really hanging out there With like 20 fucking people Yeah. And then there's another house, two houses down. You have your own house that's separate from the cloud house that is more chill? No, my house is the cloud house, and then two houses down is the phase house. It's strictly only phase guys that live in there.

Okay, and so you sit. My house is like the Nelke Boys, Rice. Who else has been staying there? I got the video. He's been staying there. I don't know what to do with it. Can we just watch it real quick? Yeah.

This is, let me do this. Should I, how do I? Do you want the fans to see it? I don't want the fans to get fucked over. It's not a real fight like that we should be worried about showing, right? You're gonna you're gonna witness him. Let's watch it first. Let's watch it first.

Previewing it for you guys. That good? Yo, no, no, it's not, this video's not that good because it's not in frame, but you can tell. It looks good? I'm saving the video and then who do I send it to? What's the email? It's exactly the way I described it to. I'll type it in a phone.

I told you, bro. That shit was crazy. Can you see me in the frame? That's a good clip. Yeah. Bradley Martin beating that fucking Vitaly is like a fucking wet dream email it or whatever Whoa I just saw the swing real quick

You have beef with Vital? No, I just feel like Bradley beating him up with It's just one of the fucking funniest people yeah, Vital is a good dude. I like Vital he's a good dude and you know what he he's fucking broken a lot of barriers on the internet. Let's be real Like Tia's daughters Hyman I can always get behind a true a villain too on Yeah he's a villain for the right when your daughter The daughter's 18, are you going to be going to the gynaecologist, like, inquiring about her hymen? Like, T.

No. No. Never. No. I don't even want to have this conversation. No. Isn't that the weirdest thing ever? Dude, like, bro, I saw that and I just, I don't fucking know.

Saw what? T.I. He, I'll let him explain it. Basically, he said that he still goes to the gynaecologist with his daughter every year after a birthday. To have her inspected to see if she's a virgin. To have a doctor. inspect and make sure she still has her hymen even though like you can lose your hymen from various other sports activities stuff like that and i mean now the argument everybody's having is like this is

invasive this is weird shit to be doing to an adult and i guess it would be one thing if she was 16 she's 18 oh shit she's 18 right it's still a fucking huge invasion of privacy you even do that to them at any age that's weird the weird thing about it though and i think it's interesting that this conversation is now happening because of this is basically like when you're a dad how do you you to have this conversation about like what is appropriate or what's okay sexually in the modern age where we all want to be open-minded and stuff i mean keem's the only one with a daughter and clearly doesn't want to talk about it from this perspective but i think it's interesting because t i clearly has crossed the line and and advocated doing here's the thing here's the thing uh a father

like should not be involved in those conversations or discussions at all like fucking dads or should have that conversations with sons. Mothers should have those conversations with daughters. In that scenario, you have to, but I'm saying like... Listen, I don't necessarily agree with that. I'll bring it down to my daughter like this. If I have a daughter, I'm going to tell her this. Listen, you're a girl, and that makes you different from boys, obviously.

And in the social sense, dudes will fuck anything, anywhere, anytime. Men are dogs, and they love pussy. And they will say anything to you to... to receive your vagina. But the biggest hose... This is getting really fucking weird. The biggest hose that we know, probably not.

A lot of them probably had a dad who said something like that to them, though. The biggest hose we know. I wouldn't say it like that. But I would say, listen, no, this is actually some profound shit. I would say pay attention to what they're saying. You said it like it was an Amazon delivery

to receive your vagina. I would tell her to be careful. I would tell her to make them wrap that dirty dick up. I'd tell her. pay attention to more what he says to you when you don't let him have sex with you. That's probably closer to how he actually feels about it. She graduates high school and she tells you she wants to start a private snap.

Oh no. There's nothing you can do to stop her. I don't know. I don't know. These are the things that happen. This is what T.I. is worried about. I don't know. But those are the ones,

the overprotective overbearing, those are the ones that the girls break through and then they're free. You forever hear that. How many girls do you know that were like, oh, I'm a huge, slut but I went to Catholic school and that's what made me into a slut. I mean it is here all the time. It is a weird scenario.

Like I mean you do like basically porn and shit. It doesn't affect you but some other people like they do that and then that's they're kind of cut off from everything else because of that, you know? That's anyhow. Let's play this. We have this pulled up on OBS so they can see it. Cool. Filming a GoPro.

Look at that. Whoa. Whoa. Yeah. Look at it. Wow. Wow. He's not fucking around.

Look at his face. Like, that's not a joke. Serious. Look at the, the way he puts his hands around his neck. What's that supposed to do? Okay. Yeah, that's the dude. Yo, that's the dude who actually has.

Yo, yo, try to get his footage. That's, um, his name's John, something. He does, like, camera work for them. He's a fake Jake Paul. He's in Team 10. I know. He just looks so much like Jake Paul as like, I thought it was Jake Paul when he walked in with Tamm.

That kid. That looks like Cole. You guys don't hear a funny story. Is Cole over? Yeah, listen. Dude, he's fucking canceled. Fuck that clown. Oh, that son of a bitch.

That kid pulled up to my house a long time ago with like a clout gang rap on his car. Oh, classy. And he was like, he won't, I mean, I admire the ambition, though, because he fucking found a way to get involved in shit. And he's got a job now and shit. Oh, we could call Vitaly. We call Vitaly. I'm interested to hear what he has to. He's probably going to beg y'all as being a dick.

Like, he's probably, yeah, I'll text him. He probably knows. We gotta ask, how do you feel about Bradley Martin beating you up? That's what we all want to know. That was hectic, man. But they dapped up after their home. They're supposed to be homies. Like, you know what I mean?

The knelt boy's crew, like, they fucking, you know what I mean? Vitalee, they've been fucking with Vitaly for a minute. Vatley has such a weird website where he doesn't actually fuck the girls, but they're like nude pranks. I met one of them the other night of the club. Like what? Yeah. He makes, like, naked girls eat worms and shit. Shut up.

I met one who just shot the day before. at a nightclub. Was it Maddie? No, I don't do. Her Instagram name is just at Maddie. And that's the girl that he had with him yesterday. You know what he's and Jesses and fucking... What happened to his girlfriend?

Maddie is the name, by the way. Yeah, the blonde hair girl. That was his girlfriend, right? No, no, no. I don't know. What about when him and Fusi went to Columbia and were fucking prostitutes or whatever, that crazy ass beef they had was all about?

Oh, shit. Yeah. We never really figured out of that. People are sickos. I believe, I believe everything, not everything, but most of what Vitaly said about that situation. Like, Vitaly was like, yeah, Foozy was fucking hookers too.

Like, what are you saying? Do you believe that Fusi's addiction that he's always talked about is prostitutes? Yeah. Well, shout out to him, though, because I think that's nice and hell. Yeah, I do. Prostitutes or pussy? I think it was probably prostitutes. Addicted to, you could be addicted to prostitutes.

I just, I find it very, very strange when someone is like, famous, you know, young, and they're buying prostitutes. Like, that's just seems strange. But I understand how he gets there, because it's like, you all of a sudden find yourself in a situation where it's almost impossible for you to start, like, real human connections

with women. And then all of a sudden, it's like, you have this crazy sex drive. For somebody like him, it's like the easiness of the transaction, I feel like, if that was his addiction, I understand. Just because you're rich and famous doesn't give you the automatic ability to, like, like, connect with a girl and make them want to fuck you.

Austin does her great job. McBride? McBride? What do you think his deal is? You think he likes fucking prostitutes, or you think that he just... Nah, nah. It's IG models.

It's IG models. But what's that like? What are those conversations like? Like, is he getting him a sign of fucking NDA before he even starts to DM him? How does he meet the girl? That's what I want to know. What is the latest on all that shit?

I really have not been paying that. There's some private stuff, but it's private. But like, for the public stuff, everyone already knows everything. But there isn't, there isn't a girl actually accusing him of rape, right? Well, the girl came, the girl did come on the record and say that that shit did not happen.

I will, I will, this is what I heard, okay? Last night, someone came up to me at the VIP party and said, this is bullshit. It's not real. Those girls are lying. Those girls, you don't have to do whatever, right? Another person came up to me at the VIP party and said, the story is real. They actually were raped. This did happen.

So it's, who knows? No one was in the fucking room. no one fucking knows. You know, obviously, you know, people are going to say, like, well, why are these random Instagram models on a boat with Austin in the first place? Like, what is the angle here, right? Right. So I mean.

So do you believe that they have a fake relationship and that they're just like, at this point, basically two hot people that have had some kids together and they're faking a relationship for YouTube? They have made so much money. Exactly. Like, why? It's dumb to get a divorce. It's done to break up.

If I was in that deep and I came to the realization with my part. that we weren't like in love anymore and I didn't I really don't want to fuck with you forever and you don't want to fuck with me forever but we got this crazy fucking thing that we just built so let's just keep that rule I think I would do the same thing I don't know if that's the case

I'm saying for me you do these ridiculous brand deals all this crazy shit your social media is insane because like if you erase her from the situation then he's just a regular guy who's kind of going out and partying and meeting chicks yeah well if it's easy to jump to the money thing like oh they're making so much money

they have to stay together we also have remember there's two kids involved. Maybe it's stay together for the kids. You know what I mean? Like, there's a bunch of different angles. It's really, really, really a deep thing. Or maybe they are still together. Maybe he really cares about her, and she cares about him, but he also wants to just fuck

a bunch of random girls on the side. Like Jake Paul? And she's kind of okay with it. Well, Jake and Tanner are fucking... No, no, I'm talking about Jake and every other girl before. That just happened. Like, that's a very dude thing. Like, that could be a thing, too. Like, we don't know. I don't even really know. I don't know. I'm just saying if I

had built what they had built, I'd want to preserve that and continue with that. What the fuck not? If we can make it work, you know what I mean? Like, that's the fucking, that's, that's the T. And we're not going to talk to Vitale? Uh, I text him.

If he texts his back, yeah. That would be a really incredible one. Justin, you're going to take a shit? You know, did KSI miss a fucking golden opportunity last night? He could have fucking called out Justin Beaver. Oh my God.

He could have. It would have been the fucking headline around the world. Do you really think Justin Bieber would do that? No, but it's a news angle, right? Justin Beaver came out and said that he would fucking fight Tom Cruise. Okay? Justin Beaver's been going on Instagram over and over again saying Logan's going to win. Logan's going to win.

Dude, JJ should have pulled that card last night. He should have. He should have challenged Justin Beaver. That would have been good. I love that you call him Justin Beaver. I have to say Beaver because people like, Beaver. When they were interviewing me on the thing,

I thought about saying, Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself just to... Oh, shit. A meme. But then I was just like, I just didn't have it in me. Whenever you go to these kind of things, like, is that part of you

that's just thinking like, I don't go viral here? I will attend your funeral. I will attend your funeral. You will? Yeah, I'll be there. How do I go viral here? Will you stream it live?

Yeah, actually. If I die early, I wanted to be like fucking stream live everywhere. I want everybody to bootleg it too. On the record, yeah. If I die early. Would you rather, die old when nobody cares about you or young when you're still popular?

I don't want my death to be a spectacle. But if I die when I'm young, I want it to be a fucking spectacle. I want it to be a fucking circus. For the record, too, I want my shit to be a, if I die young, I want it to be a full-blown party. I want people fucking outside on the street. I want my home to throw the craziest party. Selling T-shirts and popcorn. You guys want Red Bulls?

Yeah, that was. Or G-fuel? I'll have some G-fuel. Can I get the gallon of water, too, while we're at it? These chips are making me thirsty. Yo, can we bring NerdCity on a little bit to talk about YouTube? Let's get NerdCity on here.

Can we talk about... Oh, he don't care. Yeah, can we just talk... Because recently there's some shit coming up with YouTube that nobody knows about, right? And it's called this Copa thing, right? And so... Let's let him sit down.

He knows all about it? Yeah. I don't know shit about any of this stuff. I want to hear a little bit about it. We're going to get... We're going to drink. Red Bull and we're gonna get messed out. Yo, this is, oh my God,

this is clearly leaking. You gotta throw that in the sink. Take it. I fucking. I don't like Red Bull. Can I have one? Can I have one? Lou, just taking it and put it in the sink.

Can I crack this one? Yeah, you got it. Do you have any G fuel? Oh yeah, and I need a, I need another. I only drink the healthy energy drink option code Keem. Just throw it in the sink. And can I get another one? And can I get a Red Bull?

How did the water have a fucking hole in it? And how was it not already leaking all over my office? Call Justin. Yo, you got Justin's number, right? Justin Bieber's number? I actually do. Yeah, call him. Let's get his take.

I'm not calling it. Tax him, see if he wants to come on. Do you think Justin Bieber, like, they paid his rate for him to show up? No, no. He hates the Mayweathers. Absolutely hates the Mayweathers. Just beef. Can I get a Red Bull, too?

And that's who trained JJ. Just knowing how the Paul's are. Like, I wouldn't put it past them to be, like, give him a quarter of million dollars to show up and then make two Instagram posts. Now, you know what? I was with Mike while he was on the phone with Logan when Justin Bieber made that hard post about the fight and, like, posted Logan. And Logan was tripping. Like, you could tell it was, like, out of nowhere. I think it's organic.

I think it's authentic. Well, what does that say to YouTube's credit then that, like, if Justin Bieber is using the Pals for relevancy, that's pretty cool for the platform, then? Bro, you two, everybody who spends a significant, significant time on the internet. like pays attention to this community that we do. It hasn't always been that way. Like the Drake story that I told, like he fucking

a while back, like when all that Jake and the Jake and fucking Team 10 shit was happening with me, he would call Chantelle and be like, yo, like, because they're homies. He'd be like, yo, what's good with this like Jake Paul dude

and this Faze Banks dude? Like what's going on? Like they keep up to date with it. Of course. And 100% Drake, Drake knew about this Fuzzi Tube thing. He had to us. Right?

And of course. he was like, like just. His people probably told him like, you don't want to be anywhere near this. Don't comment. Don't do. You're just. Everybody who knows Drake says that Drake knows about everything.

Like he knows about the little controversies and the little weird artists that say something about him. He slipped in and did the ninja thing before that was a big thing. And I kind of attached his name to that. Drake's a smart dude clearly. He's the king of getting in at the right moment early enough to like help brand. I've seen it. Drake shouted out Friday Fortnite, my, my Fortnite tournament.

Like that was just fucking awesome. I've seen it time and time again with. I know you know what I'm talking about like the up the company the upcoming like guys that he'll come in it right before they really blow the fuck up And put him on a song and he'll buy lyrics off and and he'll and he'll push it through and like you know what I mean it'll it's a good look for him because it looks like he's breaking motherfuckers We've had a sorry to cut you off I don't change gears now Is he on Instagram? Drake? Yeah, I don't know I don't think so You know who followed me today juice world Oh, speaking of juice world I'm so glad you left that clip up

Right? No. Here we go. Right back to YouTube. That's some good shit. What clip? There was a clip of him talking to Susan. And we actually ended up cutting it out of the video, I believe.

But then I think we also sent it to people and shit so that we could spread it. I got one. Juice World's team was pissed about the fact that we had that footage of him talking to Susan. And she said, she's like, oh, yeah, how many subscribers you got? Oh, we got to help you get your subscribers number up. And people took it to be like this nefarious thing where she might be like helping to cheat the system, which I took it as like bullshit. banter to be honest but I don't know to me that's the first time it was documented what I feel like

we've all known is that some people are getting picked as the winners and losers on YouTube it's 100% yeah I don't know how you can argue that they're definitely biased yeah clearly leaned toward aside and it's kind of unfortunate and I've seen it in person before no one was recording it but I was at VidCon I was standing next to a former Viner you know during that during that invasion where they were coming in basically YouTube like invasion YouTube saw them like you like free agents that they could grab for cheap. You know, like, let's keep them happy. Let's throw traffic and money out and make sure that this is their new job.

At least that's how it looked. And I was standing next to a former Viner, and a YouTube executive came out of a locked side door. I mean, this sounds like a ghost story. They popped out of a side door. It came up, and I was standing close enough to him that I could hear it. Handed him a card that had YouTube on it. And he goes, we're big fanciers.

If you ever need any money, you never need anything, just please, please call me. We're huge fans of you at the office. Let me know we can do whatever you want. And he dipped out immediately. And that was basically what Susan did to Juice World. And no one other than Juice World liked seeing that conversation. Right.

Because what that implies is like we're not all playing the same game. Some people are getting a boost. But we know that there are people who are being given money by YouTube to start channels at times strategically and probably like big organizations as well. Like they did it early on in a limited fashion. And there was like, oh, we're going to give these 100 channels like budgets. to create channels and almost none of them did jack shit with it, which is kind of like an early example. Phil DeFranco did. He made some moves. He was one of the early ones who got the funds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he got some funds to open source fed. And then so what he did is he blew up

source fed and then sold it to Discovery. And then when his contract was running up, allegedly, let me say allegedly in case I guess it's one part of the story wrong. It's been a while since I looked at it. And when his contract was upped, right, because he didn't own his own channel, he started this campaign like he went on H-3-H-3 and he was like, hey, I just want to make sure if I'm not on my own channel and I start a new channel, will you guys like go ahead and sub to it, right? So he was starting this thing where like his channel was going to die without him there. And then he fucking negotiated to buy his own channel back for discovery, making a huge fucking profit. So he like tanked it and then bought it when it was. Yeah, he fucked everyone else

because we're not, how is it, it's going to be hard in the future for us to sell channels now, you know? Which you can't sell a channel. How you have to do it is this, right? You have to create a business that owns the channel and then you have to sell the business. That's the only illegal way to do it. You can't actually sell a channel. But then you can completely change the name of the channel and the content and everything. Yeah, yeah.

Happens all the time probably, which is kind of shocking. Do you think that Will Smith's YouTube channel? has boosted his ability to get movies again. Like, I feel like he's headlining blockbusters again right after all those memes about how irritating he was in YouTube Rewind. It's like, is he relevant enough from that, like getting memed on that they were like...

He's a legend. It's so hard. He was fading, though, you know? It's hard to make that fucking... It's hard to ever say Will Smith is fading, right? I think it's a hard argument to make. I think, you know, with YouTube, paying all these slugals, celebrities and stuff to make a YouTube channel is just dumb.

What they should be doing is paying the people that are already here and been here forever that are still doing well. And then we make it very public, right? So like it attracts more people to come and grind, you know? That's the question though is like, the thing with Will Smith, Will Smith would do great on YouTube no matter what. But I do think that then once he starts doing good and I do believe that they probably also went super out of their way to make his shit blow up. up like they're not going to just let will smith come out and just put shit out and not go viral like they're gonna fucking drive traffic to that because it's as easy to them is flipping a switch you know

well the angle is get the celebrities on there and then go to the advertisers look we got will smith you're really going to pull out from advertising on youtube so there i feel like they're all so behind like as far as mainstream shit what's okay to attach your brand to like the shit's changing fast uh youtube and the internet this is the mainstream like it is becoming the mainstream and 10 years from like the internet, we're all going to be living in the fucking internet. Never mind, just like partially living in the internet. It's like, I don't know. I want to do a series that really breaks down, like, how effective influencer marketing is.

It's the only way to go. It's the best, it's the hardest, especially like through on platforms like YouTube. It's so intimate and it's so real. How much you think Shane Dawson can get from like the honey browser or whatever? A fucking dollar. Just in general. Maybe a million dollars. He made $30 million.

fucking dollars. Congrats, Shane. Shane's a great guy. $30 million off what? Off his makeup. Wow. Off just this recent drop. At least.

Yeah, yeah, 30 mil. That's my rough estimate. Those aren't hard fucking, that's not like Shane told me that. That's my estimate of watching the dock. From somebody who has experience in like really good days. When I say that, I mean, like you do like a fate,

the face championship was a good fucking day for me. You know what I mean? It was a multi-million. dollar a day for me and for my team or whatever when the knellk boys do their merch they fucking kill it you know what i mean they have really good days and i know what those days look like financially i can only imagine like the fucking shane dawson jeffrey star shit like i can only imagine what kind of day that looked like if i'm off on my number it's only gonna be 10 mil so it's either They're going to be 20 or it's either.

Does anybody still, to this day, I'm only 10 mil off? To this day while we're on that whole makeup, like community, fucking glam community, subject, does anybody know how much Tati Westbrook made on those vitamins? How much money she got? That pissed him off so much. It made me really fucking bad. Is she uploading again or is she still going? No, she came out with a beauty line.

I'm coming out with my own beauty line soon. I was going to ask you about that. Was that a troll or what? Yeah, I've been working on it for a while. No, it's dead serious. Yeah. That's good luck with that. I mean, you.

starting one makes about as much sense of Shane Dawson doing it, right? Because I didn't watch any of those videos, but he doesn't wear a makeup, right? Well, look, Shane Dawson did TANocon, right? Huge success, big fan, so I made the Foozy Tube documentary. He came out with a beauty line, huge success,

and now I'm coming out with my own beauty line. You're just following the footsteps? I'm following the footsteps of Shane Dawson. He is like a leader in many senses on YouTube, and he's paving the way for other people, you know? Your audience is probably like 80% male, right? Yeah, And they're gonna buy this makeup.

They're gonna buy this makeup. I think you might single-handedly kill YouTuber pallets forever. It's gonna be amazing what I come out with and I cannot wait for everyone to see it. It's Keem Cosmetics with a K. Everybody wants you talk about phase rain. Oh, Ray. I did see a few comments about that. Rain's doing better.

Much better. He had a little bit of a, yeah. Listen, I've had my fucking, my moments, too, or just like, you're overwhelmed. People's lot. Like, dude, rain is, someone specifically reign as someone who has been living his entire life on the internet since he was like 16 years old and even before that like his whole fucking life was still the internet

he played video games all day so he's been sharing at pretty much like every major part of his life and his entire vibe his whole adult life and um he's living in Toronto with his family he's got a girlfriend and he's just kind of in a transitional period right now and a lot of um a lot of just like outside things like non-internet related things have happened to him recently that have like really just kind of fucking taking a toll on him why can't why can't kids smoke weed right the brains are not developed i think it's the same thing with fucking child actors and fucking kids on the internet like just like it's fine though like i've hung out with rain the past like few months like a handful of times he doesn't live here so it's like like the world cup thing right and then we all went to um

the hamptons for a little while together some little like work summit thing and like he's fucking together you know what I mean he's fucking yeah I've talked to him I talked to him still rain like it's still like I'm talking to the same fucking dude and like he's cool he's battling I'll tell you the truth he's battling some depression and that just happens to the fucking best of us get caught in this cycle like and you get like you get I've been at I've been in this place many times like you get in this this mode where like it's hard to just fucking like face the day like you just you're like you're dragging ass and like that that stuff comes you're like why do I feel like this

It makes you feel worse. It's a fucking, it's a vicious. And I see a lot of people take, like, like, rains outburst or whatever on Twitter, like, so serious. No, it's not that serious. You wouldn't take anything when Fuzzi was going through a shit serious or when you were going through your shit. Exactly.

The internet needs to chill and say, okay, he's, like, obviously there's a fucking breakdown that's happening, and this is not serious. Life is not just fucking, it's not just a straight fucking line. Roller coaster, highs and lows. And people are going to make mistakes. People are going to fuck up. people are going to not feel great, and they're going to all express that in a different way, and I'll take that on in a different way.

But do you think there's something specific about being a YouTuber where you spend all these years when you're younger or earlier in the platform where you just want this so bad? You just want to have these numbers, and you want to make this money and sell shit and be comfortable, and then you sort of get there, but then you also realize, like, oh, now you have this lifestyle for yourself where you're basically just constantly doing this bullshit. unique to YouTube. That's like, that's life for a lot of fucking people. Like, hold on, real quick. Like, almost in every, any way you could go on life, like, you want something. You think that you want something. You want the big house and the big girl.

How many times, I mean, it's so cliche, but like, you think you want all this shit. And at the end of the day, like, so many people get there. And they might have spent fucking 40 years of their life grinding to get there. And then they're there. And it's not as great as they fucking, as they thought it would be. And at the end of the day, it's really, all about just being happy. Like, focus on being fucking happy every day. Focus on being happy as much as you can. Don't fuck with anybody else's happiness and protect yourself.

I feel... I feel bad for the good guy YouTubers that get nothing but love, right? Because, like, you get nothing but love. You have huge success. What are your goals now? Like, what are you trying to accomplish now? Like, you know what I mean? I need hate.

I need people to fucking hate me. I need people to want me to fucking lose. I need it. Like, without it, my fucking car is running out of gas. That is my fuel. It's very human to make mistakes. Like, everyone does. Everyone does in, like, this cancel culture shit.

Like, I mean, if you didn't fucking, if you fucking rape a girl or do some really slimy, shady shit, like, yeah, fuck you, like, go away. Like, nobody wants you to have any sort of success or whatever. But these, like, trivial mistakes that people make, like, as long as the person fucking responds in the right way and tries to fix that, shit and like tries to be a better human every day like I don't know I think it's fucking weird super weird it gets the best of a lot of people I mean but there's something about you just sort of grind in a way on YouTube that like and that's the whole thing about it too is that everybody sort of starts to realize oh your spot's not secure and in reality it's like your views are probably going to start falling off if you just keep doing this and there's like the realization

as a YouTuber and it's it's kind of like that specific effect that makes people fucking not be able to handle it, right? Yeah, I can't imagine not being a YouTuber. You know what I mean? There are certain YouTubers, and you guys are friends with these people who, when they face that, you know, okay, my views are starting to slump a little bit. They're willing to take the hate from everyone outside of their core fan base to drive media attention.

Right. You know, they'll do something to piss everybody off. So it's like, like, you can see that Tanna and Rice Gum and the Pauls, they've all made that decision where like, I'm going to do something so outrageous that. that any passerby will hate this, but my people will get it's a joke. And like, I don't know, that, are you saying you live with that every day?

Like, I'm okay with people. I want a lot of people to hate when I'm doing. No, what I'm saying is like, I just, I want people betting on me to fail so I can win, you know? Well, as far as content. Winning and winning when everybody wants you to win isn't a fucking win.

Winning when fucking people want you to lose, that's a fucking win. That means something, you know? I think it's a really deep. It's a, like, there's so many ways to, like, come at that question and it's all unique to the person. I think that, like, I, my number one rule is, like, if the content you're making, make someone feel bad, then fuck them.

Like, if you're not hurting anybody, like, fuck them. I have respect for people who can do that. As long as they're happy with themselves, like, I think a lot of them do these things short-sighted for the short-term, like, gain of the views and stuff. And then they're like, man, everybody fucking hates me. And they probably feel like shit about that. like to an extent but if they don't like if someone doesn't like me fuck them like honestly fuck them like i'm i'll put out and i'll i'll i'll be who i am and the people that fuck with that

energy you're welcome to fucking join me and the people that don't whatever yeah where is the fucking to like to like fuck over other people for the purpose of like stirring shit up that's whack that's unacceptable but why do you why do you not have to upload anything you don't have to upload and your fan base doesn't go anywhere. Keeam, you and I clearly feel the other way that we don't upload for a couple weeks. We're going to start becoming irrelevant. I actually don't give a fuck.

I actually don't give a fuck to be relevant. I truly don't. I don't care. It's not my life's work or my goal by any means. I do enjoy, like, I do get a sense of purpose and I do get genuine happiness from like a kid being like, homie. Like, I fucking really do love the human you are

and I love watching your videos. When I get those kinds of calls, comments or I see somebody in the street. Oh yeah, that's great. They give me that. Like, it does make me want to make videos. And I do have fun making videos sometimes, whatever. And I'll go on these little sprees.

And then some whack shit will happen. Like the Tifu shit. And I was in the middle of a break-up with Alyssa. I don't want to fucking give that energy to people. And I don't, like, I'm not waking up the next day wanting to make a video. So, yeah, I'm probably going to just take another fucking fat break. And when I come back, if you fuck with me, then come fuck with me. If you don't, that's fine, too.

You know what I mean? I don't know. I think people appreciate that, though. I'm not like, I don't wake up and want to make a video for the purpose of making a video. I wake up every day just thinking I want to make shit and I want to keep this thing going. And it's like I know that if I slow down and don't put anything out for a couple weeks, it's like I still have whatever level of notoriety and success that I have to whatever extent. But it's like I'm going to see the lull of my analytics. I'm going to see the lull of my bank account.

It's like I am every day so motivated to keep making new stuff. And it's just interesting to me that. But I guess you feel it. because you're doing stuff on other fronts, business-wise. For us, it's kind of primarily the content. He's never wanted to be a fucking YouTuber. Never from day 100. Like, okay, he's in this phase house over in England.

What the fuck am I saying? New York, right? He's the most, no offense to anyone else in there, they're the good entertainers, but he's the only one that doesn't fucking upload. He's the most entertaining, most interesting person. We all live together and we would all be in each other's videos. And like, I would prefer to like put that in someone else's video

I don't know if I had an idea. I would prefer to give it to them. You know what I mean? You're a fucking good dude. Thank you. You're the real vlog squad. You are a, you're a team dude and you take care of the team. What he just said, like, I find it impossible for myself to be motivated by any sort of personal

thing. Like, I can't do things just for myself. Like, it really drives me to have a team. Like, when I have, like, say, us four wanted to, like, start something together. You know what I mean? Like, and I really fucked with. all you guys on a personal level and I wanted to get lunch with you guys every day and just kick it with you guys and you guys are my friends and I also valued what you could bring to a team

like you're smart in this area and like that starts to get me going and then I want to contribute because I don't want to let you guys down or fucking slack on you guys and like that team aspect of it drives me the personal shit not so much I don't know that's always kind of been how I am and I really don't I'm really not bullshitting when I say like happiness is my like trying to be happy is my only driver. Money really even isn't, like, to an extent it has to be, like, but, like, I just want to be happy every day. And if making a YouTube video drives the happiness level in a down,

if it trends down, then fuck that, then fuck it. Can we talk more about the YouTube stuff? I'm sorry. You want YouTube stuff. Yeah, hey, he got caught off. I just want to know about it. Yeah. So what's going on?

What's happening with this next apocalypse? Well, this is with the kids videos? Yeah. Well, I guess we're seeing the results of the... It's going to affect us, too, though. Really? Yeah. Oh, shit.

We're seeing the results of the settlement between the FTC and YouTube, because they agreed that YouTube's going to need to take certain steps in the future to, you know, to make sure that children aren't being targeted by... Weirdos. Well, you made an excellent video showing that fucking Jake Paul was literally breaking all kinds of FCC laws and stuff. Yeah, so when I was researching the, like, legality of his advertising, one of the things I kept finding out like over and over was that networks take it

very seriously who the stated demographic is for their shows. And they'll even, they'll make sworn statements that lean higher towards what the, what the targeted demographic is for like Power Rangers or something like that. They'll say this is intended for ages, you know, 13 and up. They have a Bud Light commercial and a Power Rangers fucking. Right. Well, there are stricter rules for once you say that I'm making this content for 12 and under, and each, it's a self-reporting system from what I understand. So every, every children show,

the network has to say whether the demographic is for 13 and under or 12 and under. And so they'll usually skew higher, even though they know that some of their viewership is a lot younger. They might know that from, you know, who's buying the toys and from Nielsen ratings and things like that. but they'll always pretend this is meant for someone older. So one of the things that really, I chuckled at was to see that Jake Paul was admitting that I'm making content for eight-year-olds because he's just put himself in a category of content

that has very strict regulations. So I wasn't saying at the time that Jake Paul was breaking existing laws that would cover YouTube. But if there were laws. Yeah. And that you should look at it, because I've seen a few spaces come up online

where they were in this gray area, this Wild West, and everybody felt like cryptocurrency. Everybody was sure that Bitcoin had cracked the banking system, and, like, we're now unregulatable. You know, like, this money is all dark money. And regulators basically just had to take an interest, and they started regulating your on-ramps into Bitcoin. So, you know, the money you take from the bank

and you try to buy Bitcoin with, they have the banks looking out for that. And then also coming up with your own stock markets and doing, what do they call that, when you raise, when you're raising equity for a launch of a stock. What is that called? I forget, but I know roughly what you're talking about. Round one round two. Basically what you're saying is only a matter of time until regulation has put into place on YouTube videos that is far more effective and actually gets done what they want to do.

Can we jump to the end? Like, what could potentially happen to YouTube in? 2020. Well, just so let's get to the juicy drama part. The point I was trying to get to is that look at applicable laws, like even if they don't cover you yet or they haven't been tested in court to apply to this new medium, look at what the what the close laws are because those are probably going to be the ones that clamp down on you. You know, like I saw a video, this woman said that, uh, not just child YouTubers that make child kid, kid, kid friendly content, right? But us normal YouTubers could be fined for

$42,000 if kids watch our shit. Is that true? How do you guys feel about just the general, like, idea of regulating the internet? Because I don't think it's a possible thing. And I don't think that we should look through the same lens that we've always looked through because the access to information and just like, we're all a click away from watching like some really gnarly shit. You know what I mean?

Like we're all one click away, a couple button presses away from watching a girl. And shit. It's just difficult to monetize those things. No, I know it is. I know it is with the advertisers and stuff. I get that. But let's be real, it's a lot harder to see some gnarly shit now, whereas on the internet 10 years ago, if you wanted to see

some really disgusting illegal shit, it wasn't that hard. Justin Wang, that's your cue. Justin Wayne knows all about that shit. But nowadays, all that stuff has kind of been pushed into the dark web, and if you really look at the software that they have to, like, detect child porn and all this stuff that they don't want on the internet, they're getting really

good at keeping that shit off the internet. And it's only a matter of time before the sensors and the regulators take that same mentality and basically turn it to YouTube, and say, okay, we're going to actually effectively monitor kids. Or the Internet as a whole, yeah. Yeah.

So, okay. I really did not want to invite regulation into YouTube. You know, I hate having more laws. And so if we have to, you know, submit our stuff to a standards and practices at YouTube eventually, that's a really dark scenario. I don't want that, you know. So part of what I was doing with calling out Jake Paul was I was trying to appeal to him like, hey, scale this back a little bit. Like, this is so far off of what's like. on television that don't ruin this for everybody, including yourself, you know, and I don't

know that he ever has. And now YouTube and the FTC are going to force him to. And him saying, like, he's going to have to make a hard pivot into saying that my content is now for 13 and up. Guess what? I'm rated R. Like, he's going to have to start saying things like that and not saying, I'm making content for eight-year-olds. I think they both tried to make that move. Logan and transition a little bit. Logan's doing a really good job with that. Logan was smart. He said that I'm-smarted about it from the beginning. He said that I'm, He's like 21 and up is who I want to watch my content.

He knew that wasn't his demo. And he put Mike right next one when Mike's fucking gnarly. They're doing the podcast with no filter podcast and shit. I think Logan's doing a pretty good job at transition. But that's the weird thing about being. Jake's not. Jake Paul trying to be like a kid YouTuber. And when you've got Ryan plays with toys or whatever, all of a sudden, Jake Paul starts

to seem like an adult. So at some point, Jake Paul's content is going to have to get more mature, more adult. And that is, we have no clue that he's going to be able to maintain that sort of audience. How fucking funny was it? when him and Dejy were going back and forth, and he was calling Dejy the P-word. He's like, you're a P-word. He wouldn't say pussy because he makes kids content.

So he kept saying, you're the P-word. Like, it's just so fucking corny. Well, Jake does all those little tricks to, like, get views real quick and stuff and the little things, like the thumbnail tricks and the title tricks. On marrying Tanna. That, like, appeal to and will attract the audience of, like, 12-year-old kids. Collaborating with family channels

and pretending to babysit these famous babies. Like he's done that with anything. You're gonna attract younger kids. Mini Jake Paul. So you can't have both. How is mini Jake Paul anything but away for him to get? To appeal to the older audience, you have to actually make quality content and you have to focus more heavier on that.

And like, you can't do both. The worst thing that Jake Paul ever did and targeting kids is he uploaded a fucking music video around Christmas time. And like the lyrics of the song was buy that merch, buy that fucking merch. and he was dressed up as Santa and shit. The lyrics of that song violated pester power laws in the UK. Like, you're not allowed to tell children to tell their parents to buy you something. That's specifically illegal. And he did that in that song.

Go tell your mama, you better buy it all. It's called pester power. It means, like, don't tell your audience if they're young to pester their parents. Oh, you're not allowed to do that. No, not in the UK. Dude, can we play that for a little bit? Like, you need to hear, like, it's probably. I have to bounce only 15 minutes.

Yeah, same. I gotta get going. For copyright's sake, we should probably not, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sanity's sake. I mean, geez, that's the, buy that merch song. No, but I just, I want people to fucking look that up and hear it because it's like so fucking wrong. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was just... That bothered the YouTube community pretty deeply. Like, a lot of people made videos about that, like trying to,

trying to self-regulate a bit being like, hey, we reject this kind of thing. A lot of that kind of stuff is, it's taking things so far, and like Rice and Jake doing the ads for the fucking gambling website is similar shit where it's like they're asking for it like of course eventually this kind of stuff was gonna happen but they're taking it to the far this extreme and the really big names who are doing stuff that clearly at some point is gonna have to become against the rules I'm kind of free like do whatever the fuck you want type of type of vibe but like that fucking giveaway thing that they did where you had to follow all these accounts and like half the accounts

there was a switch or sweet oh yeah that's that's actually fully not cool yeah I know that's I know the details on that What are the details? You're at your, you're, to enter in this million dollar giveaway, when half of the eyeballs that are looking at this post are 12. Because what they do is they tell all these different brands like, oh, hey, give us $10,000 and we'll make you get a fuckload of followers. And then they tell all their fans, hey, follow all of these accounts.

And then you'll, one of you is going to win $10,000. Yeah. Jake and Tanner were. Meanwhile, they got $10,000 from fucking 30 brands. And one of them was swisher sweets. Yeah, that was a weird decision. All brands is up. That is fucking weird.

And you know what's funny too is that on the other end, my girlfriend, somebody was going to her like, oh, give us $5 or $10,000 so you can be part of this giveaway. You're going to get hundreds of thousands of followers. Everyone's trying to recreate that and do it. It's a big fucking scheme.

Don't do it. Some of the companies went, I know for a fact that some of the companies went to Jake Paul and Tanna or whoever, I think it was Jake, right? He was the one that ran in Tanna just helped out. They went to them wanting their money back

because they were promised. to get like at least 200,000, I'm just making up that number, I don't know what it was. They were promised a certain amount of followers and Jake didn't even fucking deliver. Really? Yeah.

They probably did get followers, but let's be real. It wasn't the amount that they paid for. And those are the least interested followers that you could possibly get. No, you don't want fake followers. You don't want that. Your ratio, your percentage of likes.

It's not good. I mean, best case scenario, I guess, is that if you are somebody who is like highly targeted to Jake Paul's demographic, that they might end up following you and liking you. But God, what a stupid, weird.

way to get to that. If you were Tanner Fox, maybe. It would have been a smart move. Right. If you're Tanya Fox, it would kind of make sense. Yeah. Now that they've pulled public likes away, people, sponsors aren't going to be able to verify the engagement you're getting. Well, the back end. That shit pisses me off so much because they want all that shit anyway. All the time, I'll get a DM from somebody that's got a million followers and I'll look at the page and they got 200 likes on all their photos. And I immediately write them off because clearly, even though you've got many followers, you're... Don't remove the fucking likes. And I'll tell you why you don't need to remove the likes

is because Twitter's gonna do the same thing they're talking about removing likes and retweets and all that shit right? The show that you won't be able to see the number you can still do it but you won't be able to those things where they reverse the decision on that pretty quickly. Yeah because look social media is a fucking video game and everyone's trying to get the

high score by getting the most subs, the most likes. People are motivated to put content out there to get that positive feedback like back. You take that away maybe you'll post more on Instagram. Would you post a couple of times a day to Instagram instead of

every couple days? Do we want that? They want that. They definitely want that. And that's why think about most people, their Instagram account, they're only going to post a photo when they're like, they look really cool. They got a cool new outfit. They're with somebody popular, et cetera, so they can get a lot of likes. Now you can't see the likes, so people are going to maybe be more motivated. If I'm on your

Instagram and I notice that you post six pictures of yourself today, I'm probably going to hit the unfollow. I agree, but it's going to change everything because all of a sudden there won't be like an automatic reason to not do that which is worrying about the likes. Yeah. Yeah, there's this movement that's happening in big tech now

where it seems like they're trying to increase quality of life of all the people who they've got addicted to these apps. Like, they're starting to get a conscience value. For that reason, I do think it's a good move. The game aspect of it is going to fuck that all up. But like we none of us are fucking 12, 13 year old kids. You heard the point that he made though, right? The botters, the people that bought their shit,

they're going to be hidden. Like you're not going to be able to see the life. and know that they're a fraud. But okay, think about how weird... Think about how weird Instagram is. The way Instagram incentivizes it is that I have way more reason to post a photo with Banks than I have reason to post a photo with Keme, than I have reason to post a photo with Justin.

And that is just strictly based on who's going to get the most likes. And people are super conscious of that. And that's weird because that's not natural. Like, I love my mom. It's natural to me. That's how I value everyone. I love my mom more than I love you, Banks. I'm sorry.

But if I post a photo with my... mom, I'm probably gonna get like 20, 30, 40,000 likes. If I post a photo with you, I'm gonna get 150,000 likes. That's weird. That's the way that Instagram incentivizes us in weird ways, but I feel like them taking the likes away is gonna be weird because you're not going to be able to... That seems so natural to me. That seems not weird. Yeah, yeah, right.

In a way, we've all accepted it as normal. Right. Yeah, I even remember in high school and stuff, if I posted something on Facebook and it didn't get a lot of likes, I felt low-key kind of bad about it. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it feels like it's a social, like, a social gauge that I don't think needs to exist.

You've turned me. I agree. I agree. I agree. I can only imagine some of the conversation. And like the bullying and stuff that goes on with like kids and like, because kids are like not popping in their little group. You know what I mean?

Fucking Derek gets fucking 60, 70 likes every picture, but fucking Henry only gets two. But you know what? The argument is information. Because I want the information. If I did a painting on the wall and a thousand people saw that painting and liked it, I would rather know that a thousand people liked it. rather than 100.

And that is what you kind of get on social media. But just how valuable is that information? So we've talked about some of the unintended consequences of them taking the likes away. Might be that people will post things that they know will not get that much clout. And we've talked about their public reason for why they're doing this. It might be to improve the kids' lives and reduce bullying.

But everything comes down to money. Do you think that this really comes down to Twitter and Instagram and maybe eventually YouTube looking at the untapped market of influencers and integrations and trying to weaken the influencer slowly. You know? So maybe. Maybe.

They think they probably look at this like, wow, what an enormous pie that we're getting no slice out of. They definitely think of that to a certain extent. And to what extent is that really gonna change things? Because I feel like they're still gonna be able to develop tools to really be able to tell how much play your post are getting. I don't know how, but I mean, I wonder just how close this gets them to that future reality in which brand deals make more sense to do through

Instagram then through the individual content creator. What's the scariest thing is all the information they have on us? They have everything. They know where you are at all times. Bro, and they're going to take all that information. Every data point, wherever you've ever been, what your daily schedule is. They're going to take all that information, everything you've ever said on the internet. They're going to put it in a quantum fucking computer and they're going to have so much

goddamn data that they're going to, through probability, through math, when a quantum computer, they're going to be able to predict the fucking future and rule. the fucking earth. That's why we need to make a quantum computer right now and start our own social media site and get everyone's data. I'm so stoked. This just became the Joe Rogan podcast. Or we're going to die. That stuff gives me serious anxiety. Someone is going to rule this earth with that and they're going to have everything and we're all going to be dead. Maybe they already did and that's what this is. You're a simulation and they've they've simulated based off of everything. No, but on that note, seriously, I think I've got to go.

Yeah, where you going? Same. I'm going to get food with some homies and want to meet up with Tau and just fucking actually try to do some shit today. Translation. I don't know sex with supermodels. That's what I assume they're doing all the time. At some point.

Licking tits. I'll work that into the end. I bet you lick boobs on the daily. I like ass. I like to eat ass. It's 2019. You gotta get in there. I love you guys.

It's always fun. You're leaving too? Yeah, yeah. I'm going to eat too. Justin, you want to get back in here? Good to see, man. Yep. Hop on, guys.

Thanks for having us. It's always fun. No doubt. Didn't even know Banks was coming. We're starting a mom's basement again. It's coming back. We're going to do it very, um, a lot more.

We'll talk about it. That's one big thing that a lot of people were asking about in the comments was when Monk basement was going to come back. That's so cool. Nice. Nice. Much love. Appreciate your face.

You want me to rotate the other side of the table? No, it's not like we're on a date. Let's just plop Justin in over here. All right, cool. I have just a pile of empty bags of chips and stuff over here. Oh yeah. No doubt.

Oh, okay. Josh, you brought those snacks? Why did you have those snacks? You already wanted to munch? I thought these were going to be the pickle chips, but then I took a bite out of it, and it was lemon. You were biting to something and have just to be a complete different flavor from what you're expecting, and it's like a sweet flavor

when you're expecting fucking pickles. You ever eat a meal in the strip club and it's dark as fuck so you don't really know what it tastes like? Because you can't see something, then you can't really taste it. Less than 24 hours ago, we just did that. That's kind of weird, right? Yeah, we got a fucking smorgasbore at that fucking strip club. What strip club do you guys go to?

Dames and games Yeah Okay my L.A. Strip Club No one is just actually dog shit Somebody just suggested in the chat Do you think you're the new Leafie? The new Leafie No

No I hope he's not No Not willing to take that Boom No I don't get it A little less background noise I don't know because you're just a guy On the internet

Make videos about shit You know who made videos Leafy made videos You made videos For WANG Justin did you feel a little bit Overwhelmed in that chat because when you're up against Keemstar and Fe's bangs, it can be kind of hard to get a word in.

It was a mix of that. And then it's like, also you guys are just like talking about a lot of people who I don't know who the fuck they are. So I'm like, shit, like, you're, you're going into that mode when you're on a podcast thing. And you're like, I feel like I need to say something now, but I know nothing to say about what's going on right now. But then the thing you blur it out winds up being shitty. Yeah. So I'm just, you got three guys here. I'm just going to leave back.

And you in your head are kind of like, oh, the viewers are all thinking about the fact that I haven't said anything. thing in 10 minutes. But in reality, the viewers at home probably are not like, oh, I don't know what this guy knows about this. What's funny is you got the screen up too with like the chat there. So I'm like, are they talking about me not talking about things? It's just anxiety disorder to wait to happen. So

how did you and nerd become buds? I don't know. I feel like we just like met really it was wavy web surf who kind of pulled me into the fold with like the greater YouTube commentary community and then through him.

I wound up meeting all these guys like The Right Opinion, Nerd, Willy Mac Show. Were you already doing YouTube before you sort of started to become aware of the existence of the commentary community, which is kind of this vague overall describer for like a lot of different channels that maybe don't really consider themselves to be part of that? Absolutely. They're like very obviously I have like a lot of blind spots when it comes to specifically YouTube knowledge. So it would be little things where it's like, well, I just want to make sure. shitty gaming videos like the first video on my channel is me playing the shitty Adam's family game for NES and doing the world's worst fucking let's play and I was

oh this is what you do on YouTube so I'm gonna be doing this but then little by little you start seeing more shit that you realize like oh like people will just listen to me talk about shit without playing some fucking busted ass video game you guys have very different uh outly out like you put stuff out at very different rates like you're somebody who's really trying to make a video every couple days right? Yeah, in general. You're totally good with storing up that load for a few months. I'm not totally good with that. It just seems

to be the way it plays out. You know, I'll tell myself, I'm going to get this video done in 10 days. Okay, I'm going to do research for two or three days. I'm going to write on the fourth day, and then I'm going to shoot on the fifth day, and then I'm going to edit this thing in five days, and then the editing usually ends up taking a month.

You know, it'll stretch out. I'll just you know, we'll think of someone who's like, perfect person to loop in for a collab and then we're waiting on them to deliver their part of the content and you know It's just two very different ways of looking at YouTube because you like I've always been the kind of person that wanted to pump out a fuckload content all the time, but then you there's a lot of YouTubers who realistically when you look at their channel They're getting like a million plus views on each upload But they're carefully curating their releases that they're not going to put out something Knowing that it's going to do 300k you know I feel like with you specific? I feel like with you specific

though I feel like you kind of I remember something specifically you were telling me about at VidCon Where you were talking about some idea you had and you got like very far along in it but it just wasn't like up to What you wanted the channel to be so I think like a part of like why it takes you so long to put out content is like a lot of like Uncertainty and whatnot too or like maybe just like having like much higher standards for yourself than the average YouTuber Uber. Sometimes I'll shoot and edit way more than I needed. The Daddy of Five trilogy was meant to be one video and it accidentally would have been a two-hour video. And then the fact that Philip DeFranco came out, dropped the story about, hey, this channel is abusive. I had to kind of just go with what I had edited already. So I did like part one and that was 45 minutes and then I finished editing

the rest and it was part two and three. So all over, I'd like overshoot and over edit. Same thing happened with Sniper Wolf and Jake Paul, those videos had a part two to them because there was extra shit I didn't talk about. Like with Jake Paul, it just played out perfectly that Shane Dawson called him out on that in the end of the series. So we were able to, and then Jake denied that he knew he was advertising to kids. So we were able to be like, oh, I've got this chapter that's already nearly done that was sitting around where we proved that you gave a speech on how to advertise to children. It was called like marketing to children using Instagram or something. So it's like we're able to roll with that relatively quickly because it was already done.

Pause one second. I just want to tell the people at home that once I'm done talking with these gentlemen, which let's say maybe we're going to give it an hour. Then I'm going to be listening to your song donation. So if you want to donate, the link is down below streamlabs.com slash on a jumper. I'm going to be going in the other room listening to your music, all that stuff, but we're going to be hanging out talking for a while longer. Okay.

I have always wanted to tell you how much I like that series where you go over the crappy, what do you call it, cringy, SoundCloud. I got to get on it. That's my goal this week is to literally maybe get some Adderall and just get in my office and make a fuckload of those videos because I dread it. Like, do you have that with the content where there's parts of creating content that you just fucking dread and you just put it off so much that it just takes forever? Like those kind of videos, it's like I know it's good because people like to gock at weird rap videos. But it's just so hard for me to actually sit my ass down and go because I have hundreds or maybe thousands of. of videos liked that could fit in,

but I then have to rewatch them and then take notes about funny things about them. So it's like whittling down an enormous list and curating it into the top five. Well, with the one, the cringe Hall of Fame, I remember who those people are forever. There's the Soso antisocial guy. He's great.

That song is like, low key pretty good. And he's shown up at multiple different meeting greets that I've done stuff. So it's like, that's the weird part is just meeting these people. But they're always, even if I'm completely distant, They've always been super cool, but I mean, at the same time, I'm just waiting for somebody to, like, show up and want to kill me. I love that song.

Like, who hasn't been there where someone's like, yo, do you want to come to the party? And you're like, no, no, so? I just never heard that vocalized like that. So I love that. And then I liked how you broke down the guy with the backwoods in the Denny's, and you were like, like, I, you're like, I like shocking people and I like crazy behavior, but I just feel like I'm empathizing more with the waitress in this situation.

You know, like, I kind of agree with her. that you really shouldn't be doing this. You can't do this in a dance, sir. Don't do this in a Denny's. You're gonna really, like, everybody, nobody else in there wants to smell your blunt, you asshole. And you picked up on that he was like lighting his joint and his hands were shaking.

He's shaking. Yeah, he's not even like a confident prankster. But then you know what's weird is when I do go through those videos and I start like figuring out how I'm gonna make this compilation, it's like you need one totally ridiculous, insane looking face tattoo type person for the thumbnail. And then the other nine minutes. of it or whatever can be like much less interesting you just need that one freak show for the thumbnail the

takashi copycat looking guy and that's why there was some kid from uh the ukraine or russia or some shit or somewhere netherlands maybe a gang gang tattooed on his face and i made this whole video making fun of him and then it comes out that he was actually like somehow implicated in like a fucking gang rape holy shit i'm like jeez i really fucking left really missed the ball by not knowing about that you know you know what i thought was really awesome i watched your guar and interview. And I mentioned you. Yeah. That like to me it's like really cool when you pull like metal bands like things that aren't your usual wheelhouse on. I was like really stoked to see that like it seemed like I don't know what amounts of people watching this knew who Guar was or cared about them. But like it seemed like they got a really positive reaction from doing that. It was awesome for me too. It's like I really didn't know that much about Guar besides who they were up until the night before I did that interview and I literally sat there and watched shit for like two, three hours, took notes, and that was the interview. And they were like super hype.

They were like, yo, that was such a great interview. Like so, such good questions, blah, blah. And it's just weird to think that like the average person or like a lot of interviewers don't really take the time to do that. And for me, that's what the whole podcast thing came from is from going on those wormholes of like, oh, what about Guar? I'm going to fucking look up Guar shit for a couple hours. And then it kind of became like, damn, I'm like amassing all this information.

I want to actually talk to a lot of these people. which it feels like that's kind of where a lot of your shit comes from. Well, you're lucky, dude. Most podcasts, you have to, like, read a book or at least skim through a whole book. That's terrible. No, I've read books for podcasts, but it's not nearly as fun. Yeah. So, Justin, at this point, how do you get your ideas for your videos?

Or, like, how does something seem like it qualifies, especially since you must have really covered the majority of the things that you think are worth covering, right? There's a few that I think are like the big episodes Like I knew the Max Headroom one Which was if anyone doesn't know what that was It was a guy who hacked into a TV station Had some like weird ass graphic pop-up In the middle of the broadcast

That one I knew was gonna be a big one Brian Peppers I knew was gonna be a big one But then it's like there's a lot of the ones That I just remember like Just from being like so fucking online All the fucking time that like some of these stories I'll do videos that were just like things that I remember happening

And then I'm like, you know what, that might be a good video, and I'll go back and look it up. I actually have a whole list, though, of topics to make videos on. And sometimes it just, the day comes and it's like, oh, well, this feels like the video I want to make now. So that's that process. Do you really love that process of making the videos? Because I feel like a lot of times there's YouTubers who love making the videos, and there's YouTubers are sort of like dread the process, but then they like the actual release. What it is for me, and I've realized it, I've got to get a lot better about this.

I'll dread the process a little bit when I get started up when I'm like scripting it out on my phone and then like just sending out the camera and the lighting and I fucking hate my lighting every fucking video when it's always different because I'm never happy with it

but once I get rolling with the process it's just like that first step of getting into the mood to do something and then I get hyped on it yeah I'm kind of like that too where I'll like dread that process of getting ready for an interview but then once I actually get into it

and I actually have found myself sitting there for a half hour listening to some shit. I'm like, I actually starts feeling right and I actually start, you know, being prepared for it. I think I remember, I remember now the answer to your question you asked earlier, like how did we meet, how do we become familiar with each other? It was because people who, people who watched him, watched me.

So like, we kept getting grouped in tweets of people recommending my favorite channels and be like, I like Wang and I like Nerd City. And when that happens, I'll check out who the similar channel is. and oftentimes I'll like them too. Yeah. Like, I think I got turned on to, to Wang's content

when he was at, like, maybe 30,000 subs a while back. But it's such a, it's such a good series idea, tales from the internet, you know? Because, like, we need that service of the, of like a good, good-natured documentation of early internet stories. There's a few channels like that, too. Like, it feels like that in general

is kind of like a growing genre now. Yeah, whatever happened to somebody. Yeah, like you had, um, I feel like, I think, I think Game from ours was doing that before us a little bit. Do you feel like you're stepping on toes ever with the, since you're covering a lot of the same content? What's interesting is like so far I haven't had it happen where like, because there's a bunch of channels doing this like me, wavy web surf, internet historian. So far, I don't think any of us have happened to do the same topic.

I feel like that's something that's going to happen sooner or later. And I'm actually really curious to see how that plays out, because it might hurt us, but it might also, like, help boost the videos together somehow in the album. You'll probably have different takes on it. Like, Internet Historian is more meany, and you have, like, heavy research. Like, you're combing through old forums and bulletin boards and stuff like that to find, like, who said what first. And, you know, those other guys don't take as much of, like, the heavy research angle. Yeah. They'll kind of, like, recap some things that, you know, are more publicly. available and you'll do like the the deep dive.

There are, um, what's funny is like that series, when I started Tales Means to that, I had made, if you can see this if you look at the first few videos in it, I originally, that was like my attempt to doing like a reaction video series. And then it kind of became like a bunch of more videos where, um, I feel like the first, actually the first one that was like really like an organization of like the kind of, more of a deep dive going through forums and stuff. I think it was the Taylor Swift video, which was really the video that propped up that whole series. Taylor Swift, which one was that specifically?

About whether she was like anonymously posting on 4chan. Yeah. Yeah, there are all kinds of details collected about Taylor Swift potentially being a low-key 4-chan user. Like naming her cat after something that someone in the 4-chan thread responded to. It's like the Q and on of... Yeah. Of pop. Taylor Swift is Q and on.

It's interesting because there's a certain extent to which you, when you're developing your audience, to which they are either savvy or they're not. And your audience basically has to be willing to click on things that they don't know what it is or they don't really have much of a reason to. Like for my audience, it's like I know that if 6-9 gets out tomorrow and gets shot, then I can make a video about it.

it and get millions and millions of views easy because I know the things that they specifically want you very specifically are feeding your audience things that they don't know that they want yeah like that's something that was like it was like really a difficult thing to get over that hump too and kind of like just getting confident done like I realized at a certain point that I could cover the topics that weren't going to be high traffic topics because a lot of people just want to watch how I'm going to go into it and actually it kind of uh it kind of goes into like the idea of like how I build my channel compared to how other people do

because the kind of stuff I do, you can't really have like a trending hot topic that you're going to go into. The tool album was like an exception to that where people on a Reddit stayed up all night and like met in Vegas to leak the fucking new tool album. But for the most part it's just

like it's you're not going to hit an algorithmic trend like that. But at the same time because it's all evergreen content and a video I make is like it's as good today. as it is like 10 years from now, that means that people will find you and go through the whole back catalog and then the YouTube algorithm loves that too.

And we oftentimes get caught up and thinking of our content as being very like spurred of the moment, like, oh, like, you know, Keem Star is 100% on that. Like his videos have a ton of relevance the first 24 hours that they're out and then a year later, it's just like a weird historical document

that almost nobody's gonna want to look at. Whereas like the videos you're creating and I would like to think that a lot of stuff I'm doing is it's stuff that, literally is there as like an archive. Like you're going to find this when you Google things. Like there might be,

there might not be a ton of people searching for two girls one cup, but you're really going on your way to be the definitive source of information on this one weird thing. You know, you know you got a good series when your viewers are telling you what your next one should be on. And I know that, I know that Justin gets a lot of recommendations like, yo, make one about lonely girl. Make one about whatever.

Like you have a back catalog of viewers suggested ideas going forever. Oh, yeah. Like that's like that's one thing like from a I guess you want to say like from a business perspective A lot of times I'll like panic be like I'm out of fuck even though I had like the whole notepad full of ideas for videos None of them will really be doing it for me at the moment So I'll be like shit I guess this is the end of me I got no more videos But if I really was like under the gun to get something else I could just go through those suggestions And also it's like if you had a day and that's kind of a part of the question is how much time do you allow yourself to just be a

a regular guy sitting around on the internet just searching for shit. Because I feel like if I fuck around on the internet for eight hours, I'm bored. When I'm wave of a plane or some shit, my shit gets delayed. Then I'm going to fucking land on a whole bunch of shit I'm interested. I'm going to start coming up with ideas. But it's like you sort of need that boredom to get there. But when you're constantly pushing out as many videos as you possibly can, you don't get that boredom time. It's honestly, it's something that like I've been like struggling to manage, I realize.

because like I don't have any kind of organization. Like I was like listening to nerd say, well, I'm going to spend like four days on this and four days and I'm like, ah, like I just do it as it comes. Yeah. But then the problem when you have that kind of situation is that then I'm at home where I work, but I also live here. So if I'm not getting work done now, I can't just chill.

Like I should be working. Right. And did you have that big dream of being a YouTuber though? Were you like, I want to earn enough money from this to not have to have a regular job? Definitely not like the It it was something I just wanted to do for like a long amount of time at the same time for like maybe like the ten years prior to that Most of my income had just been like a patchwork of different side hustles all coming together So YouTube was kind of something that like it figured itself into that world

I never would have expected it to like be my main thing Right. Yeah, it's interesting because like you're clearly probably making more Is the band thing a significant? heart of your life? It is. Like, it's not something that like, honestly, obviously I've been able to monetize as effectively. But the band thing is, like, it's, that was my main thing for like most of my life. Like I was just guy in a band going on a lot of tours, just trying to make something happen with music. Low level tours. It's like a metal band that you're in, right? Yeah, like band I'm in right now, it's called Jinks. It's kind of like, got like kind of like a new metal vibe. Nice. Yeah.

Well, I'm playing lots of ones and O's. Shout to some black guy, by the way, who just commented what up wang what up some black guy you know what I'm talking about yeah yeah Derek we're not we're not we're not singling out a black guy in the audience it's our dude Derek that's awkward yeah yeah but his name always like needs that kind of explanation right yeah when when I thought that's who it was and I was meeting him at at VidCon for the first time you don't want to ask are you right black guy because if he's not that's a really rude question yeah but I mean it's technically correct yeah yeah good friend of mine black Dave

I always feel kind of weird when I like accidentally say like, oh, this is Black Dave. I'm like, you know, it's like, I'm just really like labeling this innocent Dave, Black Dave, like just sort of doing that to him. And it's like, no, that's like his Instagram and shit. Like that's what he wants you to call him. Is anyone ever like, why do you call him Black Dave? Well, realistically, that was his name before. You know, if I made it up, then that would be a little weird.

Yeah. You know, like if it was just me. Like you had like another Dave and you like, that was the only way you could think to distinguish them. But there's the black one. There's such a precedent for that on the internet now, too, because everybody's in Andy, Asian Andy, Mexican Andy. Yeah, there's what happened. I was like thinking about Arab Andy the other day.

The guy who, um, he had the text to speech, uh, IRL stream setup, went into a college and then someone did like a bomb countdown. And then like he got, it very easily could have gotten a lot worse than it did, but he did get arrested for that. But the Andy thing is like exclusively from the Ice Beside and community, correct? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Have you ever thought about covering that? Is that too new? How long does it take before something's too new? Or before it's new enough? It depends. You know what it is? I worry more about like completeness.

Like if I, I mean, sometimes you're just got to have a story that doesn't have a satisfying conclusion. Like the secret hard drive video that I did where it's like it's turned out to be some kids fucking around. But sometimes if it's something that's like an ongoing developing thing, even then I'm not going to say I don't cover it because. I guess like the most mysterious song on the internet, that video, where people found this old German radio recording. And it's a really good post-punk song, but nobody knows who made it. That's kind of like an ongoing thing where people will find new leads and stuff like that. I don't know. It's going to sound like some dumb, like hippie shit.

But I guess it's just whatever video I make is like what feels right for me to make at the moment. Right. Whatever you're interested in. If you don't do the way you're interested in, it's got a lot of start really feeling work at some point. Yeah, because I find, like, with your kind of videos and shit, a lot of times it's watching a lot of pretty bad content to find the absolute worst moments so that you can drill in

on that shit and really call attention to how bad it is. Does that sound accurate? Yeah, I guess. A lot of people don't have it in them. Sounds completely accurate. A lot of people don't have it in them to watch that much bad shit. There's some level of... Terry channel or whatever, that's kind of. There's some level of massacism there.

Like, I don't jump out of bed in the morning excited to watch, you know, 300 hours of Jake Paul content and then timestamp things that are like ridiculous. But, you know, once you get that done, you start compiling that and sorting it into, you know, themes. And that gets a little more fun there. Yeah. See, I started to, like, I thought about doing one where I was watching the videos on the Ignite Energy channel or whatever, Dan Billsarion's weed company, where he just housed this

big warehouse and it's like super awkward like live stream uploads of him just in the house with like all these like hot ass models but they're like smoking weed and it just seems so sad and lame and it's just it's crazy because it's like super hot chicks super nice house it just seems so boring and it was really I sat there for an hour and a half watching the shit trying to find like writing down the timestamps with the stuff that I thought that was the most cringy and it put me in such a fucking bad mood by the end of a couple hours of it that I just couldn't really bring myself to want to continue to put this together and realizing how I was either going to have to tell one of my employees to do it and really not know what the fuck it was going to end up like or I was going

to have to do it all myself and that was going to be painful I mean it's something it's hard to delegate something that you know that much of a crappy task because then you know maybe they're cutting corners and because it sucks so much yeah they're going to not drill in and really try to get to the bad shit. We have some researchers. I should say shout out to them. Like Demina and Ryan, they'll help me pound through, you know, the hundreds of hours of whatever topic we're doing.

Really? If we have, like, I'll watch a bunch of the content and get sort of a general idea of what we're looking for. But then sometimes you just let the content lead you towards like, oh, I had no idea they were doing this. So why don't we, you know, follow that and pull on that string and see what happens. Yeah. That's really.

You know, Andy Malinaccus is in the chat as well. saw him commenting saying Andy Andy He heard Andy Probably because he's Greek Andy I wonder But he's not the original Andy

In the CX trajectory of that The inventor of memes Andy Milanakis You think he was the inventor of memes Yeah I remember him saying that At some point And I was like alright Andy

I was listening to Sam Harrison He was trying to get Richard Dawkins And he was trying to get Richard Dawkins To basically comment on memes Because he like pioneered the term Before they were talking about talking about memes. And Richard Dawkins really didn't seem very eager to, like, latch on to the spreading of,

like, text and image things. In the early days of meme, it wasn't, no one was sure whether it was May-May or meme. Do you remember? I remember the GIF. It's settled on meme now, but I think back then Richard Dawkins even called it a may-may, didn't he? Or a me-may? I knew people.

Like, I know a guy who's, like, someone who was a celebrity, and there's, like, an old clue of him talking about a meme and calling him. calling it a meme and it's just like the fucking funniest thing to us in the world like it's so hard to imagine a world

in which a grown man didn't know that it was called a meme that's um pronunciation didn't win out but it was up in the air for a bit that's actually how

I would have thought it would have been pronounced because I was thinking like memetics like having that kind of like origin of the word but then I remember it was um

do you remember when Tom Green had that call in show like way like after MTV but it was an online thing yeah that was awesome yeah there was an ongoing 4chan raid of his show, just like having him, like, whatever fucking, like, meme phrases they can get him to say. I think it was like, do a barrel was like the one at the time that they

kept on trying to get him to say. And then finally he caught on and he said, oh, these guys are trying to get me to say internet may-mays. And I was like, that was the first time I heard it pronounced may-mays. And I was like, oh, that's not good. I guess it's memes now. You remember one of them was gentlemen. They wanted him to do the gentleman meme. So he got all the pencils and filled his mouth. He probably did that better than anyone. You know what's a weird thing to think about when I think about Tom Green or Howard Stern is that Howard Stern was thriving on censorship for all those years.

The fact that he couldn't just do the shit that he wanted to do because of the FCC and the rules that they had upon him where he couldn't, you know, use swear words and he couldn't necessarily have these porn stars come on and queef on camera and stuff like that. And then he moves over to Sirius and he thinks like, oh, this is the best thing the world because I'm finally going to be free. And then he realizes that once everything is allowed, all of a sudden all the shock value shit doesn't really

work anymore. And a lot of times I think about that when I look at old content like Jackass and Tom Green and stuff like that, is that like, that shit doesn't really seem like it would do anything on YouTube these days because it's sort of too easy to do the gross out shit or to do

just, you know, offensive shit. Like that shit doesn't seem like it works in this modern age because everyone can do whatever they want on YouTube for the most part. One of the hard questions I asked myself about the Paul brothers when I was going through that content is like, why do I respect jackass? Like, why did I like that and then not like any of this? Isn't it kind of similar?

Your age is definitely a big part of it, let's be honest. Like when you were 13 scenes, when I was 13 seeing jackass for the first time, I was very impressed. I mean, I watch that shit now, though. It's still funny to me. I mean, here's the thing, though, there's, there, which one is it that throws the fucking plates? Is it Jake or Logan? Logan. There is one night where I was like, all right, let me see what this Logan Paul guy is all about.

And I sat down and I found the supercut of him breaking the plates at people a time. That montage is funny. I was like, you know, this is actually, I don't want to admit it, but I'm finding Logo Paul really fucking funny right now. Yeah. I completely agree with that. I had that same moment. And I showed that to people before, like, you know, undenomenessing. There's a couple of chuckles in this.

Yeah. And thinking about it, though, that very much is a thing they would have done on jackass. Scaring people with place. Maybe at some points, like, Stevo would have had to burn himself in the process of it, but more or less. I mean, Tom Green and them, they got by with a lot of pranks. That was a very, very big part of those pranking your mom and dad. Same thing with Jackass, you know, sort of torturing your mom and stuff. And if you really look at it, like, what was Mick Juggernuckets doing besides torturing his fucking parents?

That was really the name of it. of the game and that's basically a jackass tom green thing that tom green slutmobile skit is still an all time favorite for me painted the the hood of his parents car with yeah i remember that one now lesbians eating each other out my favorite one was the undercutters do you remember that it was like yeah he almost got killed with that oh yeah chased them with a hammer do you remember undercutter's pizza so he would he would follow a pizza delivery guy around and then try to sell a pizza for cheaper while figuring out what the toppings were at the door. He would undercut the price.

And that really angered one customer and he chased him off the property. He's like yelling at him about like hard. These are hardworking Americans and blah, blah, blah. I think they threw the pizza stuff at him. That's such a weird thing to think about how kids these days, like kids will always have to go through this phase where the most offensive things are the funniest things.

Like to me when I was like 14, not that anal come is the funniest thing in the fucking world because their song titles were just so fucking offensive and it's just like now I feel bad when I see a 16 year old kid in in Charlotte because he said some offensive shit on Twitter because it's like that is the most 16 year old boy thing on earth is to just go on Twitter and say the most offensive thing

that you can think of and I think that we need to as a society have room for that kind of shit to happen as much as you also want to warn kids like yeah don't be stupid on Twitter because it's going to come back to get you and you're not going to get into Harvard. When I first started watching YouTube like really regularly to try and understand in the community, it was a period where almost all of the big names, all the funny people

were doing references to Nazi stuff and Hitler jokes, because that was the new, that was the new forbidden thing that suddenly people felt just comfortable enough to make fun of. Because, like, it was, it was really the first generation to have not had grandparents to where this was personal to, or, like, you know, there was nothing for them to make them afraid to talk about that boogeyman, but they were still taught in school. The ultimate boogeyman is Adolf Hitler. And that's the worst guy possible. So we'll use him as an example of the worst things.

And so suddenly kids were, you know, they didn't have a grandparent to tell them like, hey, this was serious. And, you know, I sacrificed my life to go make sure that this evil didn't come upon the world. Like there were kids suddenly existed on the internet who hadn't gotten that speech and were only reading about it in the history books as a boogeyman. So they used that as like edgy humor. And man, did we get off track with where the Hitler stuff has gone since then. You know, like, that what, like, PewDie Pied eventually being accused of being

dog whistling the alt-right. And that's totally not what he was doing. And that's like a mainstream opinion that it's very easy to meet people who, but that's what I like about, about PewDie Pye, too, is that he is a repudation of the way that the left wants to paint all of our society. Like, him being the biggest YouTuber is proof that you don't need to be this mega-woke dickhead in order to have a big fan base on the internet in 2019. Well, I think the thing about cancel culture and in general,

I think it's that it comes down to what people's perception of you is. Like, if you haven't built yourself up to be this big woke guy, then when you have those kinds of indiscretions, there's nothing to, like, turn back in your face. And that's kind of how the mob builds itself up. Hypocrisy is, like, the big gotcha thing, especially with YouTube, is like, Have you said something that's directly the opposite of what you're saying now and is it on video?

Right. You know, when you have those moments, someone's going to throw it back in your face. Yeah. It's interesting, because when you have PewDiePie Pye is the biggest YouTuber and like last year, you know, 6'9 was like the biggest rapper. And like, you know, these are people who have basically been completely deemed to be inappropriate to be involved with any sort of like high level like media discourse. It's like it's obvious that the media hates PewDiePie and Trump and Six.

But they're all continued to be extremely popular and it's like I don't think of six nine as like a right wing icon But the fact that he was so Gladly appreciated by our culture almost kind of feels like that right six I mean I like this music a Pepsi ad in like a year and a half I think a lot of good reasons why not We'll think about where Snoop Dog ice cube like the the NDA guys the gangster rap were when that was happening like they had they had the government investigating them. And then eventually, you know,

Snoop Dog is completely commercially marketable or whatever. But the thing is that 30 years will erase your murder charge that you beat if you're Snoop Dog. But I don't know how much time needs to go by before 6-9, before everybody can forget about like the child sex charge, the snitching,

the shooting at people, like all that stuff. I don't know. That's a pretty high bar for Pepsi to get past, in my opinion. Like Pepsi fucking with Cardi B when she used to be a stripper and she like says fuck a lot is even that is kind of like wow like they've come a long way that's kind of a perfect example yeah that the walls are being broken down over time but i mean i think what we think of though is like a squeaky clean like what is brand acceptable what's not brand acceptable

what brands will find acceptable will ultimately be where the audience is so if the audience says like we don't give a fuck if this or that guy is offensive or even if he has like you know a really bad history if we're still interested in what he's putting out there then at the end of the day the brand the job isn't to promote any kind of morality in the world it's to sell you whatever the fucking bullshit they want you to buy is so if people if regular people don't care about that shit then brands will have to follow have you thought about the fact that your channel could be targeted and like basically wouldn't be too shocking if like a large percentage of your videos got demonetized or like deleted and shit because you touch on a lot of edgy shit I'm honestly so

We've had this conversation before. I'm surprised at how much of my shit actually gets monetized. Two Girls One Cup video. Monetized. Confirmed by manual review. The Reddit cum box. And you don't really avoid much of the language, right? No, I feel like a pussy.

Like, it's probably not the best financial decision, but I feel like a pussy, like, if I censor myself in those kinds of ways. Like I was watching Drama and Keem wouldn't say Dildo. Yeah. I'm just like, what I mean? Dildo, man. What I did do? So the Reddit come box video, I was like, well, this is going to get hit by like the demonization bot immediately.

Just cum, that word alone. It's supposed to get demonanced. I figured out if I'm in, if I make come box one word instead of two, the AI is not going to know what a cum box is. So it's sat there monetized for a few days and then eventually it got dinged and then it passed the review. Yeah. I guess that's one of the really frustrating things about YouTube is not knowing like the mystery of, the mystery of is this word like dildo okay to say yeah and making a video live and then having it immediately get demonetized just feels like the most cruel like intolerable policy imaginable

because if youtube were to just say okay adam every single video that you upload needs to be requested for monetization before i can go live it might take two or three days but once it's made once it's approved then it can just go out and you'll be able to whatever and like you know Obviously, we're going to try multiple times to get videos to review, and sometimes that's going to help. But that I would be very okay with is having wait two or three days to find out if my videos are monetizable. What I really fucking hate is that, like, last night I put out my vlog from going to the KSI Logan fight, and that it's now gone a quarter million views, and that it went orange the second that I made it live. Yeah.

The reason that I think that'll never happen is YouTube can't insert themselves as the middleman without taking responsibility for what you've published. They become the publisher. It's like the safe harbor provisions of the DMCA require that you are not sitting in the middle determining whether this violates copyright or not. You have to basically say that I'm so overwhelmed. We as a platform are so overwhelmed with uploads that we can't realistically be checking all of these. So we basically have to be a service that allows people to publish wildly. And that's obviously getting YouTube in trouble with advertisers. through the media giving the negative attention

when they can get a gotcha moment of a racist video paired with a Coca-Cola ad, you know. So then YouTube kind of has to play this game where they're using AI to be that middleman but pretending there's nothing there. Right. So the AI sucks at that, and they'll let something through that flaggers,

you know, like when you set something live, your viewers then can hit report if they think there's something inappropriate there. And now suddenly you're getting a human reviewer where before you didn't. Right. So it goes from like machine learning said it's okay, and now let's see what a person thinks.

And you'll fail the person, but be good with the robot. You know, they can't put that person in the middle. That's interesting. And it's so fucked up, too, because, like, for a while, it seemed like it was working really good that I would take my videos, put the word sex in the title, boom, it triggers the request. I request. But then now, if I take that word sex out, boom, it's green again.

And then I make it live, and it turns orange immediately. So I can't even, like, trigger that review of my own video unless I leave that term in the title, which itself is probably going to make sure that, yeah. I think they do actually factor in. Like when it comes to those kinds of things, like having sex in the title, I think when it comes to those things, they'll, like, factor in the context more than they would, like, something more specifically relating to the subject matter. Right. Because in the past few days, I've had, you know, interview clips. Like, Mod Sun talks about getting addicted to cocaine the first time he tried it.

And Mod Sun talks about getting addicted to lean. And both of those were triggered, but then they got monetized, which I was kind of almost shocked because I'm like, God, fine. Like, because, you know, any idiot could see those titles and think, oh, this is clearly content that's, like, positive for society that this is something that, like, why wouldn't an advertiser want to be associated with somebody talking about getting off of drugs? Yeah. You know, it's like. It's, there's a weird double standard, too. Like, if you look at TV and the kind of stuff that's getting advertisements on TV or sometimes even the advertisements themselves, they're stuff that wouldn't pass the monetization review on YouTube. Right.

But they're paying a lot more money to have those ads on TV and say, like, I don't know, like the Walking Dead or something where people are just getting ripped the fuck apart all the time. And it's weird to think about, you know, YouTube Red really is the best thing that fans of YouTube videos can do. because when you think about, I go to Netflix and I'm watching Big Mouth and it's got like cartoons of like children masturbating and shit. Have you seen Big Mouth? I have not. Oh my God, it's so fucking funny but what I just said sounds terrible.

It's so fucking funny and so inappropriate and it's so awesome but it's content that would, even as a cartoon would never go on YouTube because it's like it's all about like kids going through puberty and shit. So it's like and they show insane animated shit that I don't even know how they could justify it to a certain

extent but that idea of like a YouTube type platform where everybody can pay $10 a month and you're able to watch as much content as you want and there is no laws I mean that almost is what YouTube is like because if you pay that 10 bucks a month yeah your content's not going to get promoted that well but you are going to like make significantly more money like when we all look at our YouTube income the amount that comes from YouTube right is fucking crazy I stopped even counting on getting any ad sense at all I just assumed that I won't Really? Because it's that bad? Yeah.

Really? Yeah. I'll run strings of demonetized videos of like five, six in a row. Wow. And won't know why. That's like a year for you, too. And the last video, YouTube rated at X. I got an X rating.

I didn't even know that was a thing. Yeah, it's rare. It's worse than MA. Cilo did the math on like what percentage of videos were rated X when he was looking through the data and it's something like 0.15% of videos are rated X. So someone from YouTube rated that to try and suppress it. What was it? It was the YouTube's biggest lie.

Right. Wow. That's scary shit right there. Yeah. I'm pretty upset about that rating. I feel like that's a really underhanded way to suppress the video. Because usually an X rating would be paired with an age restriction. So like if something, and an X rating would normally be triggered by like puke, nudity, or gore.

Not just for saying the word gay in the beginning of the video. That's crazy You know And we had the dire straight song in there That used the F word But an F word at most might get you an M.A. rating Right You know it wouldn't get you an X rating

I uploaded a vlog where we went to our weed grow operations Everybody go ask for no general weed in your local dispensary And that thing was immediately age restricted And that to me was a little shocking because I'm like We're not even smoking the plant We're just in a room full of plants Like what is like I know that you watching it as as YouTube as a company maybe you can tell that this is marijuana but

i mean it's just a plant nobody's smoking it and was age restricted just being around the plant particularly offended by that that sucks i can see them doing that though yeah but it's like it's very inconsistent like what they do and do don't age or but i guess it's everything with youtube it's just inconsistent so like we constantly have to play these games and like like guess what they're gonna do before they do it so we don't wind up like fucking ourselves or months. Right. You might go ahead and build a whole channel around you taking, you know, crazy hits off

your bong, and then they just nuke all content like that, like what happened to the weed community. The gun channels? Gun channels, hot channels. Shut down. Yeah. But that's what's weird, too, is that on here or on Joe Rogan, he can sit there and smoke weed.

We can sit here and smoke weed. The content is not about us smoking weed, so we're not really getting hit, but by people who just maybe titled their shit differently. or, you know, have the camera closer to them when they're smoking weed or whatever, it feels more like it's, like, directly about weed. Those are the channels that are getting totally fucked, which is, you know, it's kind of a thin line there. Yeah, I guess that came down to a judgment call,

someone at YouTube deciding whether the weed was incidental to the content or the focus of the content. But no one knew that weed was even going to be a prohibited topic, because where those people live, they're following the laws of their state. And what about in a year or two if it's federally legal, legal, then they're just going to go back into all those videos and back to all those content creators and say like, oh, here you. Yeah, can we turn their channels back on? Yeah, custom grow 420, boom, you're back. Well, there are rules about alcohol, I think, right? Is there? I don't know. I know, like, Twitch has, um, and that's not like a law thing for Twitch. I think it's just like a content guideline where it's like, I think you can drink, but you can't drink in excess or you get a ban or suspension or something. I mean, Twitch is, they go through weird shit too, where it's like everything that anyone could possibly do.

ends up just being sort of exploited to the point that they have to do something about it like they can't just like let girls have cleavage showing on stream without becoming a huge thing of these titty streamers You know, it's like you can't just let people drink because then you're gonna have people like someone is going to drink themselves to death by taking donations To drink on Twitch and then they're gonna have to answer to the policy that you can't drink yourself to death Chad did Chad did that anything for views would drink to the point of vomiting and then you're drinking on Twitch Did he get in trouble for it? I don't know I don't know It was a while ago. I think you guys know Tipster? No.

He had like one stream. I think it was like a New Year's stream. Oh, I know. Yeah, yeah, I know exactly. It's like one of my favorite screen caps of all time. And he didn't even, he took the shot, but like it looked like, the image looks like he threw up. But apparently like it went down like the wrong pipe and he coughed it back up. It's pretty fun.

But there's like this amazing shot of like the mixture of liquids just falling out of his mouth on Twitch. and he did get it, I think he did get a suspension for that, like a one day or something. That's crazy. Do you think Twitch is over? No, I don't. No? And I think it's still got a lot way to grow. It's a wishful thinking on my part because they see it as such a much of social justice

where you're fucks. Yeah. Do you think puke puke genre is over? Because vomit cake just got deleted. Really? Oh, that's right. Wait, what is that? The Feltie Frank video. Oh, wow. It's like this is, I feel like filthy Frank videos in a lot of ways are probably the canary and the cold

mine for for YouTube getting a real fucking clean so yeah this could be the end of it now I'm almost surprised that he hasn't just like put that entire channel on private because it's so sort of contradicts like the brand he's building as a musician yeah like one day like that I mean I don't know how there definitely is like a big part of his audience that just knows him as geogian and like which is crazy you never would have thought that the filthy frank thing would be able to become an after note yeah because nobody talks about like such a fucking iconic thing to begin with. For us as YouTubers,

been out of the music fans, and they don't give a fuck. Well, what's going to happen is now, like some of these new fans are going to go back, and they're going to find Filthy Frank, and they're going to be like, uh,

this guy, we've got to cancel this guy. Oh, yeah. They're just not going to know Filthy Frank. Have they tried to cancel him yet? I mean, like, the Filthy Frank show is so offensive, but it's almost like,

how could they possibly not get the joke? Yeah, I went back recently. Never, never underestimate people's ability to not get a joke. Yeah. That's like half my fucking mentions on Twitter all day along as people not getting jokes. Yeah. That's always the hard thing

to decide on Twitter though is like, do you want to go for the sort of obscure reference that you actually think is funny and like the 20 people that you talk to would think is funny? Or do you want to go for the super obvious joke that's going to get a hell of retweets? Sometimes, I feel like there's a

kind of line you can tread where it's like when people like kind of get like a subtle joke it makes them like feel like they're like smart and special and like a part the in-group. And if you can do it, like, so it's just subtle enough that enough people will find it, will understand it, but feel like it was hard for them to understand it, and they got it, I feel like that's like a good spot to get in, that which we do well.

Because it's a slippery slope because, like, just two examples. Leon Lush, who was supposed to be here, but he was, I don't know, his kid is on fire or something. He said it was an emergency with his family or something where he couldn't come. So, not like his emergency. but you had to do something. But, I mean, Jake Paul said something about kids on their phones or something,

and then Leon quoted it and said, you better be glad kids are on their phones because if they didn't, then you'd be out of a job. Such an easy joke, such an obvious joke. Jake Paul has young fans. We all know it, but 100,000 retweets because it's just such an easy, bow. Yeah.

Gotcha. Yeah, I mean, sometimes the simple ones, just like they hit really good like that. It's always the jokes that you almost think about not making because they're so obvious. Yeah. I just got 200,000 likes on a tweet and I think 60,000 retwees because Complex put out like a graphic of Kanye with a quote that he put out that may or may not have actually even been said or be accurate. Maybe he was talking about like, you know, some bullshit about there being three different elements and now we're all on our iPhones or some bullshit. I quote a tweet I wrote, what the fuck does that mean?

280,000 likes. Jesus Christ. I don't even know why the fucking. fuck I tweeted that it seems so stupid easy and obvious it's always it's always the tweets that you don't think are gonna hit that hard that wind the blowing the fuck up Twitter works in this weird way where like you're almost I think like you have a threshold of how many likes you can get compared to your compared to your following so it's something like someone about my size I feel

like I can get about 20,000 likes before it's either gonna hit a wall or then suddenly get into the next phase I think what I think what happens at Twitter is they they curate to some degree the what jumps from from one basket into the next one so it's like you'll hit that 20,000 likes wall and then maybe that's the first moment that a human curator from Twitter looks at your tweet and says like is this something we want to push to all timelines and people who are like follow followers of you and if you pass that then you go to the next and then it's like and then you can get the 100,000 like tweets you know but haven't you noticed you hit a wall of something around 20,000, 30,000.

Yeah, and it's weird shit, too, where, like, the other day I tweeted out, I think a link to an article about Emma Chamberlain, and Emma Chamberlain liked the tweet, and it fucking exploded from her just liking that tweet. Power like. Oh, my God. I guess maybe she doesn't like that much shit on Twitter, and I know she's huge, but Jesus fucking Christ, like, that just somehow, like, it's set off the algorithm in a way that I know that I don't have that effect when I like something,

although sometimes I will like a random compliment from a fan that is sort of funny or something, and then I'll end up seeing that tweet again, and it's like even though they added it at me and they have no fucking followers, it's still me liking it and made 500 more people like it, which is a strange thing. The likes are funny because not everything you like shows up on everyone's feed, but sometimes you just get that like where it's like,

it's got to be some kind of momentum-based thing in the way YouTube has where if you get a lot of burst of views all of a sudden it puts you up. Twitter, I mean, it's got to be a lot about that, what do they call it, the, what you might have missed, that thing when you open up to her the first time. Like, that's got to be, like, key for that. If you get nominated for that, then for sure, that's going to help its own. What's weird, though, too, is sometimes, like, you get those tweets where it's like, nobody liked it, nobody retweeted it, but it'll be like, oh, this and that person that you follow follows this person. So here's their tweet.

And a lot of times I'll get those, but there's no interaction or anything. It'll be a brand new tweet that they just decided I should see. Right. If Donald Trump says something that's like particularly humorous or like a well-crafted tweet, and I like begrudgingly like it, I hear about that. People will be like, why did you throw this in my timeline? I hate Donald Trump. You got to be careful what you like or you end up fighting about it.

I've really learned my lesson about liking porn because I know all these porn girls and I've really learned my lesson. Like, do not like anything that they do because I will like. actually lose hundreds of followers if I like something that's like really sexual and gross. They've got a real uphill battle with Twitter. Like they're they can post more explicit stuff on Twitter than they can on Instagram, but then no one wants to publicly have a record of what they've liked. Like you can like a racy image on Instagram and someone would, you're like a little less likely to get called out on it. Someone would have to go into the like liked by what's the they got rid of that I think. Didn't they get rid of that? Yeah, you can't even see who liked what

anymore. That activity tab, but in general, like, if I were to go to your Instagram right now, I can't go look at a list of everything that you liked. Although I could create a burner. Well, no, but with that tab gone, now it doesn't matter. But that used to be what girls would do I would hear about is they would make a burner account, only follow the guy that they're dating, and then their entire feed of activity would be everything that that guy does.

And boom, they're able to keep tabs on him really, really good, which I've never really had to deal with it. I never really had time to look at that shit. So like the porn the porn stars and models will post like a phenomenally engaging photo, but then it's getting no engagement relative to a normal joke or something because people don't want to be busted pressing like on it. But it was shocking too how fast porn stars get followers. It's insane how fast porn stars blow up on there and they could be totally irrelevant ass porn chicks that have 200,000 followers. So like high followers low engagement though. Exactly because so many dudes that's their way of view and also so many dudes who probably don't mind liking shit because

Because they're just operating on burner accounts anyway. They make burner accounts just to follow porn stars probably. Should I not be doing this on my main account? I mean, hey. I constantly, I'll do that. And then I'll have like, I'll like some random picture that like some camgirl or something will have posted. Because I'll just, if I'm going to do it, I want you to see me doing it. Because it kind of like, it's amusing to me.

But then people will be like, oh, Wang's horny on Maine again. Right. Horny.