No Jumper - KT Foreign on San Diego Politics, Why He Gets So Much Hate & More

Episode Date: August 26, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let's get it. The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today I got a young man that I respect for real, church, I really respect you, man. I respect what you're doing and how you're trying to move for the culture. We got K.T. Forne in the building, Maine, from out of that San Diego, California. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:31 You need! We're going to turn this one to fuck up, man. We're going to figure this one out because they all been asking for it, man. I've been seeing them too. They all been asking. Yeah, yeah. I've gotten DMs. I've tried to keep them away.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Let me see if this boy gets some old press. Let me see if they keep pressing me about it. When it's coming, when it's coming. They start pressing me some more. What? I'm trying to figure out what the fuck is it about this, man? They really fucking with. Now I listen to some of your music too, but I'm like, man,
Starting point is 00:00:59 you didn't have some of your hardcore die hard fans man people who really fuck with you in my inbox or on other interviews that I've done man they've asked for you man man what's that kT4 man yeah you know what I'm saying so I feel like it's only right to get you here today us sit down and we figure out you know who's the man behind KT4 yeah you know what's important right yeah you know what I'm saying so I want to start off with you just ask you, man. Like, you know, your upbringing. Who is the man behind KT. Form? Like, what was your upbringing before you even had
Starting point is 00:01:36 that name? Uh, shit. Well, um, just to break it down, how I, I grew up and shit. Um, shit, a nigga grew up good. Like, you know, Pops' moms was around, all this shit. Um, okay. I live with moms. Pops was involved, but he just didn't live in the same household. Yeah. But, um, he'll come around and, you know, all that for show. And, uh, on top of that, uh, my G moms or my mom's and my pop side, that was involved, too.
Starting point is 00:01:59 But so I'm going to break this down. My mom's side of the family and my pop side, they're from different size. Like, you know, one's Dammuz and one is Crips. Right. But on my pop side, it was more of a generation of my age group. So I kind of grew up around them. I kind of went to my G-moms over there, you know? So when I, as I was going over there, she lived in Southeast too at the time.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Shut on Southeast, man. You know, got to go ahead and throw that one out of the best. Shout on Southeast, man. Everybody, man, who got. But, yeah, so I used to go to her house and shit like that. And then she used to take me over to our family friend house. In the south of the southeast, I'm going to put it like that. She used to take me over there and shit.
Starting point is 00:02:34 This is like from like first grade all the way to sixth grade. She used to take me over there. I used to, you know, be over there on the block with a badass kids and shit. What was that experience like for you? Like, for real, like just being young and probably seeing out people who were a little bit older than you was moving around you, not really giving the fuck. Yeah, it was kind of like, I felt like I felt like. Somebody else told me that about the city, about Chicago. I said, man, what you feel about Chicago?
Starting point is 00:02:58 He was like, man, like, I know it's dangerous, but for some weird reason, Sharp, I felt safe. That's crazy. You just said, the second person has told me that. On God, yeah, because it was like, you know, like, shit over there. I was a young nigga, too, witnesses and all that shit. You see nags get shot, staff, rob, police raiding shit. Yeah. Niggas getting put on, like, all kind of shit.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Like, you know, like, we got everything. Like, we got liquor stores up the street. The smokers out there, niggas hustling. We got candy stores, parks. All that shit. Everybody always think, man, when, you know, they think of San Diego, right? Yeah. And everybody be like, oh, man, well, that's a tourist city, man.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Everybody's surfing and, you know, everybody kicking it. But I don't think they'd be understanding, man, at them beaches. Like, you'll see 30 niggas over there from the same set just standing off in the corner. They're just chilling. They're just doing their thing, man, and ready to press anything. Hell of it. So I think people kind of need to get that right today, man. Like, it's ghetto air where you go.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Yeah, that's not, yeah, yeah. It's not just like anywhere else. It's probably ain't as worse and it's probably ain't as nice. Right. But you feel me? It's the same. Yeah, I'm going. It's the same shit.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Ain't no difference. Yeah. Now, you getting into music, you know, how did that start for you? Like, you know, because obviously, bro, I swear to you, the town they love you. They love you, man. I spoke on you on other podcasts. Like, you know, when they asked me, like, man, when you know who you think coming out of San Diego. And like, I love Little Weirdo.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I was sitting with him, you know, and shout out to Little Weirdo. That's my homie and get your ass in for an interview for show. But when it was asked, like, you know, who you. Who you think making noise out of San Diego? And I was like, well, shit, make the first name that came to my mind was KT4. Hell yeah. I'm being real with you. I don't know if you watched that one.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Yeah, no, hell, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, you was the first that came to my mind. And I stood behind that, whether people like that or not. Yeah. You know, I don't give a fuck. Yeah, I co-signed it. Yeah, man, I stand behind that.
Starting point is 00:04:48 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. What was it? But I don't mean to veer off and talk too much about it because I'm excited to have you here, man, because it's good to have you here, and I think it's good for San Diego culture, man, you know, and just kind of trying to bring everybody to the forefront a little bit.
Starting point is 00:05:04 You know, I try to sprinkle y'all in, man, and just, you know, show that there's some culture there. Right. But what was it like for you coming up even thinking? What was you doing the month before you even thought about? Like, man, I'm about to go up here and cut this track. Keep playing. Oh, shit, like months before.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I say, like, years before, really, shit, niggas was just, going through shit for real. Like, you know, like, in high school, matter of fact, so shit, after high, when I got in high school, because, mind you, I told you I was with my mom's and shit until like sixth grade. That shit's like gladiator school, too, because niggas is politicking at an all-time high there.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Yeah, on God, on God. But my mom ended up having a situation, so I had moved. When I moved with pops and shit, I got, like, more connected and closer to, like, a little more. And then my cousin, matter of fact, Alan Baker, he passed away and shit.
Starting point is 00:05:55 He was like one of the main- Yeah, he was one of the main ones trying to push me to do this shit for real. And like, I wasn't like applying the pressure though but he always saw the vision like, oh, this is what we need to do. You know, at the same time, we're outside though, thugger for real. So a nigga ain't even like focus on our music shit but he always had the vision of like, like, oh,
Starting point is 00:06:10 this is what you need to do whatever, whatever, right? So long story short, when he ended up passing away, that's when I started taking the series. For real, for real. Like it, like until that point, when that happened, then that's when I really started like, okay. Was that something you and you made, Was that something y'all talked about?
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yeah, hell yeah, we used to talk about it all the time. Like, as far as music, like him pushing me to do music, yeah, we talk about all the time. He was always like, but I was never like trying to apply the pressure, though. I'll hear him like, yeah, yeah, but, you know, we're still doing other shit. You felt like he believed, so you felt like he believed more than you did at the time. Oh, God. On God. Probably saw something in you that you wasn't seeing at that time in yourself.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Right, right, right. Because I mean, shit, look at your progress today. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's exactly what it was. I wasn't even seeing it. He really saw the vision. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Oh, God. First song you recorded. Like, first, I don't give a fuck if you was even going and fucking around, because I think everybody in the music game, they, uh, when you, your first cut, you always go in there fucking around or trying to get your feel. What was the first song you could remember even fucking around on, even if you didn't put it out? Uh-huh. San Diego, I don't want to know this one.
Starting point is 00:07:18 They don't want to find it. I ain't going to lie. I have so many, hey, I had so many, like, fucking around songs. Yeah. Yeah. Your first one, though, like your first one that you remember. Like, I don't get a fuck if it is kind of embarrassed. I'm like, damn, I'm kind of not proud of it, but. I mean, I never, I did have some shit, but I never, like, named it because it was never put out. I just went in there. It was just bullshit and around, like, and just had it.
Starting point is 00:07:39 But I never, like, put it out. Like, you ain't, you ain't going to find it. I ain't even going to find it. Right. Was you proud of it, though? Honestly, as an artist today, like you being around it today, you already don't fuck with it. You don't put some mainstream shit out. Uh-huh. How do you feel about that today? Like doing that, was you, was you, could you be as proud of it today as you could have been back then when you did it? No, I wouldn't like it today. I'm going to lie.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Well, we all evolve, I think, you know. Yeah, yeah. I mean, shit, that's how I go. But in San Diego, for you, and I got to ask this one, honey, like, for you in San Diego, how was it, you know, fucking around, just being around gang politics and trying to do music. Like, which one did you? feel like was pulling you more. See, that's what I'm saying. Like, so when bro was here,
Starting point is 00:08:27 when we was, that's where I was, that's what I was getting into. Like, when bro was here, that's what I, that's what niggas was on. But, like, he was trying to push me to do music, but that shit was just pulling me away. Like, I mean, that's why I wasn't applying pressure for real.
Starting point is 00:08:38 That's what I mean by a nigga was really thugging the streets for real. He wasn't applying pressure on that. So it was just like, this really, like, took a toll over the music until that happened and then it walked me up. You feel like music? I get it.
Starting point is 00:08:56 People think San Diego is, you know, it's hell of nice. You know, you walk around. You can live cool, you know. But what was it like for you and still probably like doing music around certain politics and things like that? Oh, you're saying like, I mean. You know what I'm saying? Like what's it like? Like you doing music and being around just certain politics because there's things that are going to pull you, man.
Starting point is 00:09:21 There's temptations. People are going to want you to come here, people going to want you to go there. You know what I'm saying? But do you stay on track or do you kind of veer off? Like around certain politics? No, I feel like I am jobatics for real. It wasn't no. Like, no, it wasn't know about the veered this way or that way.
Starting point is 00:09:39 It's going to be my way. Right. And I know, it wasn't no. Now, that shit didn't affect me. Hell not. Yeah. Hell not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I like how you do. I like how you really stand firm, man. There'd be a lot of people because I see, you know, with the good, it's always the bad. And I always see people try to, like, you know, throw a little bit of dirt on your name or try to talk a little bad. And, you know, I'm going to be honest,
Starting point is 00:10:04 I don't really ever see you really entertain it. Like, to where, like, I've seen you make a big statement. Like, man, fuck these niggas, man. These niggas is talking bad or these niggas is talking reckless. How does that make you feel, church, like having to, like, kind of humble yourself through all that?
Starting point is 00:10:20 Being a grown-ass man and just hearing niggas trying to talk bad or just... That shit. shit made me laugh or i ain't gonna lie like damn brother like we all grown y'all over here worried about what the fuck i'm doing but like now i'm just about the clown you niggins bums for real like yeah it's not no nigger that ever got no money or nothing like that or no nigga doing what i'm doing it's always somebody that's just like all the way down there like you know right just like they trying to get up here they're gonna use my name to get up here it's just laughable matters that's it yeah yeah that's
Starting point is 00:10:47 yeah i don't know the fake me either niggas i'm gonna be real bro people people will use your face and your name all the time to try to get somewhere that they're not going to go any motherfucking way. So for them to show you they true colors, I mean, I guess you winning in the end. Yeah, it's a win-win for me, I ain't gonna lie. You know what I'm saying? Your first project, let's talk
Starting point is 00:11:08 about one of your first project since you don't remember the first song. I'm cool with that because like you said, you was fucking around. KT, everybody starts like that. You know what I'm saying? Everybody's fucking around so I can feel that. But your first project that like, what was like one of the first songs off there, you was really
Starting point is 00:11:24 proud of that you know like I put my all in so oh shit it's all right bro you can tell that shit come on you could be proud of that motherfucker like that first i'm trying to think for uh um i don't even know first project yeah your first like you're saying little EP little first little five six songs you was proud of are you talking about some old shit yeah some old shit because that's where it starts to bring you to where you at today young god um shit i got a i got an old project matter of fact i think i only had like one or two the first one was like some shit called like still grinding or something like that um that song off of there though uh yeah how many songs is on that motherfucker like like 20 i think
Starting point is 00:12:15 yeah so it was a lot of joints on there yeah was you doing was you doing features at the time like like not even features but just like bringing your homies in matter of fact no no no i did a with Mazzie on that shit. On God, it's called getting famous. Yep, it's called getting famous. Yeah, it's called getting famous. Yeah, that was on my first project. That was on my first project.
Starting point is 00:12:34 That was it like working with him. It was straight. He was up for a dude. You know, that was way back when he had the, before he had Blot of Live the album out. So, you know, that was like, that was a minute ago. Did y'all, did y'all end up linking or was that something like, because I know niggas will send the song like here.
Starting point is 00:12:50 No, we did link up too. After that, we linked up, And we did another song and shot a video. What video was that? It's called, it's me, him, and R.G. It's called, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, yeah, it's called a little bitch, on God. Little bitch. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I like that. Oh, God. I like that. How was that experience fucking with him? Like, going and actually, like, on a work setting. Yeah, yeah, it was, he was up for her dude. It was, you know, it was, I felt like he was, you know, like, it's a lot of things that I'd be, like, funny acting and A lot of niggas that's straightforward.
Starting point is 00:13:24 A lot of niggas that he was easy to work with, though. I was going to say, bro, because I know, and this ain't love Mazi to death. Nothing against him. But I do know how, like, I'm sure there is niggas in the industry that has played big me, little you. You know what I'm saying? And try to, like, overshadow you and kind of push you. Like, I'm doing all my shit. Barely even shake your hand.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And when they're done what they part, they leave. Not yet, no, it wasn't anything. After that, we went to a show and some other shit. Which are going to a show, too? It was his show. It was in Daigo, though. It was downtown. I forgot the club it was.
Starting point is 00:13:57 But yeah. It was in San Diego though. It was in the lab, matter of fact, right before that, too. We was just fucking around. Like, we didn't do no songs or something or nothing like that. But yeah. So it wasn't like, no. You want to work with him again in the future?
Starting point is 00:14:09 Y'all would? Yeah, I would. Man, shit, you need to call him. Get his ass to fuck up on the studio, man. Yeah, everybody trying to work, man, and especially trying to work with you, man. Because you seem like a dude that's you hungry, man. You hungry, man. You're eager for it, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:24 Is there any more projects that you got coming up that the people can be looking out for? Yeah, shit. I just dropped some shit with the camp seven years later. I got a project coming out right now called Confidential. That shit dropped like in two days. And I got a...
Starting point is 00:14:39 That's pretty much here right now, yeah. Man, shit. I'll tell you this. If you just keep applying, I mean, all it's going to do is blow. You know? I mean, shit, It sounds like you've been working.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah. If you can't even fucking remember some of the songs you didn't did, homie, like when you told me your first, he was like, I had 20. That's work ethic, oh me. Yeah, I'm right. Not everybody got that. You know what I'm saying? Like, it seems like today people are, I'll ask you this.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Are you more interested in pushing an album versus a single? Or would you rather push a single, like, as an artist? Like, what would you be more into right now to get going? Honestly, like, last week, I would rather push a single. Yeah. But it depends on what it is. Like you got like a, you know, like you feel like you got like a good feature or a good song or whatever, then push it out a single. But I be having so many songs now.
Starting point is 00:15:30 That's why I'm coming out with a tape right now because I got so many songs. It's like I might as well just put them out like this. You know, seven, seven, a EP, matter of fact, not an album. So, you know, seven songs, that's a little EP. I rather do that for real. I think that's the best way to go about it. Knowing that you're popping and the things that you've already done fucking around in the music game, how has it been trying to like get on radio and things like that like how is that type of press like for you
Starting point is 00:15:57 um shit i've been on a i ain't been on like jammuz united and anything like that but i have been on radio stations though like and i have people tap into like from like uh what is it from like seattle or or again one of the two like they be tapping in and trying to put me on the little radio out there and shit and um yeah a couple places though for real like san diego it's a um hot 93 hot 93 point three or something like that. Yeah. DJ Sway, yeah,
Starting point is 00:16:20 I've been on the air a couple of times, so it ain't been like, but it's not nothing that I really like, like, been pressing to do. So it's just like,
Starting point is 00:16:28 it's whatever. Yeah. The only reason I was curious is because, you know, it seems like getting on, like getting a song of yours mainstream, one where you ain't got to do
Starting point is 00:16:39 a whole bunch of editing, you ain't got to do a whole bunch of bullshit to get on the radio because it seems like once one radio picks it up, everybody else kind of picks it up if it's hot, it's catching wave when people are
Starting point is 00:16:50 chiming in like you know everybody's going on at seven o'clock in a radio station or something like that man and this one station is getting hits because it's playing certain share you know what I'm saying? It's just getting out there so I just know it's got to it's got to be kind of hard for a nigga to try to get on radio.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Like you know what I'm saying? That's why I wanted to know that experience for you like have you trying to push that? Like when a nigga say no. what would be some of the requirements to get on? Yeah, it might be like, shit, like cuss words or like, you know. I ain't going to lie to you though. I don't really know because I ain't really pressed to do that.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Like I ain't really tried to like, you know, apply pressure to get on the radio. It's like I just make the music, drop it to, you know, the distro and then see what to do. But I ain't never really tried to like go in. You're trying to get this song on the radio. Like, you know, a big radio station. But I ain't never tried it. Right. I wonder what you, like, because I know you.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Like, because I know YouTube is cool, man. Like, people get on through YouTube. But it's got to be something else. It's got to be a different, another algorithm to hop in for the music industry. Me, do I know? No, I don't know, but I see niggas getting on. Yeah, hell. They got like, niggas getting famous off TikTok, YouTube.
Starting point is 00:18:06 It's all kind of shit going on. It's got to be a formula, right? Yeah, hell, yeah. It's got to be some type of formula there, man, that really just like, man, hey, this is how you get the bad people want it. Because I think for artists, the money's cool. But a nigga want to get heard. Yeah, hell of it.
Starting point is 00:18:20 How you feel about that? Like, would you rather have the money right now or do you want to get hurt and make the money later? Sure, if I'm going to make the money regardless, I rather just have the bag. And I say that in a tongue twist because I know there's a lot of one-hit wonders. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Or somebody that comes out, nigga, they drop a whole bunch of shit, and then after that. And I don't mean to talk bad about the man. I ain't going to say nothing, but like Fettie Wop. The nigga, you know what I'm saying? Like, a guy outstanding. Had a track that just moved, man.
Starting point is 00:18:47 You know what I'm saying? They sold it. now they got all the money now but then again you start to look back on it where is it now? Right right right where is the shit now right and I wonder if that scares artists like
Starting point is 00:19:01 do you feel like KT you are just a now rapper or do you feel like you're somebody who can really solidify the future in the rap game? I mean I feel like once you got a fan base then like you can always get a bag you know you got shit I ain't gonna even say no names either but yeah but I feel like once you got a fan base like rather people think your shit
Starting point is 00:19:18 whack or whatever like at the end of the day you still got that hard fan base or whatever you put out they're going to fuck with it and you're going to still get paid because they're fucking with it. Right. Got to ask you this one. We don't bullshit it around. I'm watching you tiptoe, nigga.
Starting point is 00:19:36 But I like that shit for real. Because you keep it that shit thorough. Like I got to know this one. What's the difference between G gang and Siette gang? it's a difference between those two. For real, it ain't no difference.
Starting point is 00:19:52 If you're really G gang, Sieta gang, it's like the seven letter of alphabet is a G. You feel me? Cietta gang. That's basically like saying, okay, it started with God body to label, basically. Seven letter alphabet of the G, seven layers in God body. That's where we get, you know, the seven from. Seven P is the structure. Prior property planning prevents Pittsburgh performances.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Yeah, that's some game they need to know if they don't know. But that's basically the same shit. So instead of saying like God Body game, we say G gang. Instead of saying like a separate from G game, we say Sam gang, Cete gang. You're just saying it in Spanish. It's a number. It's a seven. It's a G.
Starting point is 00:20:28 It's the same thing. It's the game. You know, like in order to be in a game, like that's why they say nothing bigger than a G. Like if you're a P, in order to be a P, you got to be in a G. You got to be in the game. You got to be in the game. You got to be in the game. You got to be in the game to be a member.
Starting point is 00:20:44 So it ain't nothing bigger than the G. Where did the name KT.4 and Fatty G come from? Let's dig into that then since you want to sit up over here and break down the alphabet and all the numbers. Well, shit, I ain't go live, right? Let's break that down. I like that, huh? You ready?
Starting point is 00:21:04 Let's do it. Well, shit, like, fatty really is like a name from my, like, family and close friends. So all I did was just throw the Gs behind it because, you know, it's the G. And shit, KT4in for real, that's like, KT4N for real came from the same algorithm where I just explained to you, like the God body, like God body come from the Quran. You know, in the Quran, they say it's the truth. And, you know, we don't, you know, we do like, how can I say it? Like, niggas do Ramadan, we don't eat pork, you don't got no tattoos, we don't drink,
Starting point is 00:21:32 we don't smoke, so it's foreign. KT. foreign. Yeah. Where it comes from. Do you ride forums? Everybody's going to want to know this. I'm just being honest, bro, because when they're going to see it in the title, they're going to be like, man, you know, KT. Foreign, well, does he own multiple forums?
Starting point is 00:21:48 Hell yeah, niggas know me for that, too. Niggins know me for that too, babe. They ain't going to lie. Man, I want to know, like, for real, because you seem like, man, you really moving and grooving. You don't work with multiple people in San Diego. You didn't have been doing your thing. Shit, all over the country.
Starting point is 00:22:07 You've been working with people all over the country. Who are some of the top people? Like, I'll just ask you this. Who's the two? Who's two top people you'd like to work with today? But you haven't got a chance. Shit. Dirk and fucking.
Starting point is 00:22:21 That'd be live. Dirk is a number. He is a top dog. I like that one. That was a good one off the first one. Second one, what we're thinking? This is a second?
Starting point is 00:22:32 Who? Is it a second? I don't know. Probably like a, I don't know. I have to be some extravagant shit. I have to say like a Drake or so. Why do you,
Starting point is 00:22:40 let me ask you this. Why do you just want something hot? Why do you just want somebody that's just hot off the dribble? Why? Why are you like this? You know what I'm saying? Like, for real. Like, what do you see in yourself? Like, for real?
Starting point is 00:22:53 Like, what do you see in yourself that you feel like stands alone from other motherfuckers, bro? For real. I don't feel like, shit. I'm hot. Shit, the bad. Like, something that's stand alone. Like, everybody don't stand for the same purpose with this shit. Everybody, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Like, I really understand it and what goes on. You know, a lot of people would be like, I'll do a song with Dirk to, like, you know, get some fame or something. Like, I'll do it for. You know, the future, the longevity. Long Javit. What it's going to bring. Yeah, like, that's what I'm in for.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Everything else is really relevant. You can be broke and famous. Right. Yeah. That's facts. I think, you know what, bro, to be honest with you, there's a lot of motherfuckers that are like that, but miserable overall.
Starting point is 00:23:34 You can have a whole bunch of money, bro. Yeah, that too. Right? You ever had, like, a little, and I'm asking you, like, this is a question of you. You ever had money? You can have money to feel like, man, everything's cool around you, right?
Starting point is 00:23:45 You got the tightest clothes, all that jewelry, but still not happy. Is ever a time like that for you? You got money and you just still ain't, you don't feel happy, bro, so I'm like, feel like something wrong. Now, I feel like I just still be having a lot of shit to do. Like, I'm still hard working. Like, you know, I'm still getting up every day and hustling for real. I think it's still working.
Starting point is 00:24:07 That's it. Never felt like miserable or, like, you know, that's, that's, nah, nothing like that. Yeah. Yeah. Does K.T. Forn hit the studio like niggas wake up at 5 o'clock in the morning and hit the gym? We gotta know this, man. Is he pumping iron in the studio? Come on, man. Like, for real, like, are you really driven like that? Or you just like, fucking sharp? No, I hit the studio once a week, man, for 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Yeah, nah, with me, I just, I hit the studio. when I, you feel me? When I hear, when I post on Instagram, like, see me some beats, and I hear a big, and it's epic, and I'm going to go there. And then if it's some beast there, too, I fuck with, I'm going to do my thing.
Starting point is 00:24:51 But I don't just, hell now. Like, I ain't waking up at 4 a.m. 5 a.m. Not doing that. So you're not doing that. We might be in there. We might be in there to, like, 4 a.m. 5.m. So, nice, you know, but we're not getting up at 5 a.m.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And doing that. So you're just a nigga to just hit a button and see what gets sent to you. Yeah, hell yeah, pretty much. Do there be some fire beats? Hell yeah. Like, for real, be honest. It'd be both.
Starting point is 00:25:13 It'd be both. Niggins sending a lot of garbo. They ain't knocking nobody. I, niggas will send you some straight basudai. Oh, gee. You know what I'm saying? I'm not. I ain't going to lie, niggins send me some shit
Starting point is 00:25:26 to keep sending this shit like, damn. And he'd be mad at your ass because you ain't playing like, nigga, you're going to fuck with him, bro. And he know he didn't send you some basudai. Come on, bro. Got an unnecessary enemy. For real Nigel
Starting point is 00:25:40 I'm still seeing this shit though Still try it Hey man I gotta ask you for real Like for KT foreign Where do you see yourself In the next five years church Let's go ahead and let's manifest it
Starting point is 00:25:56 Like for real And I want to hear you speak on that shit firm Nigel where you see yourself in the next five years Shit I mean shit Nigger still making music for sure But like Yeah
Starting point is 00:26:07 Shit nigger on some problems You know, Airbnb in it out, you know, on the way to execute that million-dollar plan. Yeah. You know, keep it going. Yeah. Yeah. Is it because, and I'm going to ask you, I'm going to ride off of what you just said. Is it because you don't genuinely believe that in the music game today, it's just, even if you got good music, you can make it?
Starting point is 00:26:32 Yeah. Hell yeah. You feel like it's a problem with that? Is that why you don't believe it? No, hell no. that's just something I'm saying like you know to keep the bag on like to keep a for sure bag like like music you could like you just said and they's got one-hand-one just like music it's gonna be music but I mean to secure the bag it's not like it's not like it's not like it could take me far
Starting point is 00:26:50 but I rather do that that's a for sure bag you know what I'm yeah well the million dollar question is since we had talked about that and we're on it do you feel like in kT this a real one it's gonna get still do you feel in your heart you are a one-hit wonder Hell no And the reason I say that Is because shit I've been I had a hit
Starting point is 00:27:13 Like five years ago S-O-B That shit went crazy Nigger made 200 K plus Off of that Motherfucking still getting bread And then now I got some shit
Starting point is 00:27:21 I just dropped With sugar free That's another That one was dope Yeah I ain't gonna front you And I fucked with you Before that
Starting point is 00:27:29 But then I saw you It dropped that I said oh this little niggas Over here Trying level up He's trying to one up Yeah He's playing Pac-Man for real
Starting point is 00:27:37 Yeah He played Pac-Man for real. I was like, because every time I would think that you were about to slow down, you know, here you come with another one. Like, hey, don't forget. Right. Hey, don't forget. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:50 And when I kept seeing that, I'm like, snick, keep like, you keep putting it in their face. Yeah, hell, yeah, you got you. You know what I'm saying? Why are you doing this? You got to do that. Why are you doing this? I got to do it.
Starting point is 00:28:03 We got to surely keep it going. Yeah. We're going to keep doing it, too. You know, my game to you before we get at it, because I got to give you this one, man. I know it be a lot of hate. I know it be a lot of hate that come your way, too. Yeah, yeah. I hear about it, man.
Starting point is 00:28:18 It flows. But to me, that just means, nigga, that you're relevant. Yeah, for sure. You somebody that, nigga. And they want to be. And they don't even want to be you necessarily. They just want your positions that you work for. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:31 You work for them. They don't understand. They don't understand that, man. You know what I'm saying? So I want you to always mash, bro. Like, stay on your game. No, hell, yeah. Don't let nobody ever try to knock you off your pivot, bro,
Starting point is 00:28:43 because they're going to try you, my nigga, daily. Yeah, hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? Stay on your game. Five years from now, you say you're going to have you some businesses. I see a lot more for your future, man, if you just stay at it, man. You got a spark about yourself even within your music. Yeah, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:00 You know, and I think people need to really go and they need to really go chime in on that, man for real especially for the day go culture how do you what's the response from being in san diego and you doing music when you run into people sure when I run into people like yeah whether they be like man his music's all how do you what's the response that you get it's everything
Starting point is 00:29:21 it's everything i ain't going to cap to you it's everything it's like a supreme burrito from taco bill just talk to me let me know yeah they're going to say i'm the coldest I'm the hottest then they're going to say oh that shit trash I don't fuck with it but you kind of know know who's who like who's who like who's
Starting point is 00:29:35 Yeah, but it's everything. I run into everything. That shit, whatever, though. I mean, at the end of the day, they're gonna still play it and, you know, the district- You seem like type of a nigga that'll work with them. They hit you and was like, man, even after they hated, like, you're spinning?
Starting point is 00:29:47 Like, nigga, I got you, bro. Like, we ain't, I'm looking past all that shit. Like, nigga, what you got, bro? Like, come on. Tell them church, tell all your people that say they don't fuck with you. If they do music, please let them know, man. They can come work with you.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Man, yeah, man, your shit hot, man. You got that bag, man. We don't get it going, mate. I ain't got a cap, man, that's what it is. Hey, man. Like, you know, whatcha call it, was on live. It was a little live, right, and somebody hopped on
Starting point is 00:30:17 the little theater live, and they was like, he asked for her people like, hey, who the hottest in San Diego was coming out? You know, everybody's like, okay, T4 and free game, we do that. Yeah. Then you got one of them haters, niggas, you talk about, and he'd get on there talking about. Man, I don't listen to these things, man.
Starting point is 00:30:31 But it's the same thing With my GM So trying to get features Same thing as I'm trying to do real estate too You know how they're actually For a feature I'm trying to do real estate You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:30:43 They really just be wanting to be your friend Brough Yeah Like you know I noticed that too Like it really be like that bro People they don't even really give a fuck They just want to be able to say like They just even want to say like
Starting point is 00:30:56 I got into it with KT for him Yeah me and that nigga got into it Yeah And make them feel good Like that shit's just crazy to me, even if it's negative. They can't say like, oh, yeah, no, I fuck with him. I got to meet him one time. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:07 We was cool. We shook hands. I fucked with his music. It's crazy, right? Like, nigga, brother, he don't care how he get it. As long as he can say, yeah, man, he saw you or he, you've acknowledged him. They need to go get a humanized, big ass boot and put that shit over their head, man. That shit, boots.
Starting point is 00:31:27 For real. All right, man, shit. What's your next? song that you're working on you feel like it's big what we good about it but like the next one people need to be looking out for tomorrow um no you're working on something church you all so fucking humble now i ain't gonna pull it out of your ass but i'm gonna get it out of you nigga come on now i ain't gonna lie bro like i just been talking shit in this next little tape i'm just gonna you know it's a talk shit one you know confidential just listen to it you know you're gonna laugh a little bit
Starting point is 00:31:59 or something that i like that yeah yeah i'll be doing that man like you know you know everybody always putting drill music drill music out you know what I'm saying to hear somebody say like niggins shit I was kind of rapping a little bit to where Mike catch a kick out that shit yeah hell yeah nah yeah we ain't yeah
Starting point is 00:32:15 ain't really doing too much drill music yeah oh yeah we gotta kick that shit foot hop and you know man hey the most real shit we could you know put out
Starting point is 00:32:32 Man, you know, we're going to be different. I put it on drill music, but... Yeah, man. You don't, yeah. Well, you know, California always, we always had a smooth group to us. You know what I'm saying? Like, it just, you know the sound when you hear the sound. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Right? You know what I'm saying? Like, and I like that if people do listen to your music, because I do. If you listen to it, you're going to catch that in it. Like, you still kept that original feel, hum. Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:01 How long you've been, uh, you've been, uh, How long you've been doing these interviews and shit, though? Shit, man. Now I think I'm hitting almost a eight-month marker. Eight months? Eight months. How they be feeling when you ask them, like, you know, interviews, when you ask them out, like, where they from? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Like, what kind of response do you really get from now? You know, to be real, to be real, I liked your response to it because you was very, like, you know, oh, but that's what I'm used to. Like, what a nigga say, because a nigga proud of where he come from, I see a lot of people, they be kind of ashamed of it. Or they don't really accept it. I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about when you ask them as far as the gang politics, like, where are they from? Like, you know, not what city are you from? Like, when you be asking, when they be getting into that shit.
Starting point is 00:33:40 When I ask them about gang politics, things like that, man, you know, it's just to really set more of the field. Let people know where they come from because, I mean, shit, I know you're going to be proud. And guess what? If you don't mention them, your homie's going to be mad. So we got to at least when I know I'm sitting with somebody, I mean, I'm just being real, bro. So I ain't trying to send a nigga back to destruction. Right. And just some extra shit because when people be looking, when people watch this shit, they create their own perception.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Right. Of what it is. Like, oh, well, the niggas should have said this. The niggas should have said that. So when I'm dealing with somebody like that, bro, I try to really just let it be known. Like, hey, my nigga, hey, this, where you're from? Like, he's proud of it. Whether you're active or not, does it matter, man, that's your section.
Starting point is 00:34:21 That's where you grew up from. Yeah, but I don't know. The way I'd be feeling about that. I'd be seeing, I'd be seeing a nigger say that, too. The way I'd be feeling about that, though, you know, like, I got family. that study law and shit. Ooh, I like this. I'm gonna be real. I like how you just did that. You opened up, I just liked that.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Continue. We'll talk about it. Come on. Yeah, no, I got family that study law. So, you know, I got paralegals and all that. So it's like, in order to be a documented gang member, it's three things you have to do. Like, you either got to be over there and getting caught over there, like, or on pictures, throwing up gang signs or pulled up with active gang members or caught in a, like, a gang crime or something like
Starting point is 00:34:58 that. And like these interviews is one of them things that could validate that. Like, you know, you could be, you could be a, you could be in an area all the time because you live there and weren't red one day. And that's a domo area. And the police pull up on you so many times and stop you just harassing you. Oh, you're from here because now you're documented from here. Because we always see you here. You're always wearing red and whatever. And everybody around here is from here. Now, that's anybody. You don't even have to gang bang. Now, as far as a person that don't want their stuff, like, you know, to be documented or something like you. that like so these interviews for example like you ask somebody where they're from they're like oh i'm from
Starting point is 00:35:33 this that and the third right and then they go use that on you later in the court and give you that gang injunction like oh well he said on this interview that along with everything else he's talking about his music and all this which is true that he's from here and that's how they use that shit against you that's why i was asking but it's it's a lot of like different people that don't really understand well to me when i ask them is because i know like i said i know it people have a heritage to them of what building you them. Even if you aren't in the neighborhood
Starting point is 00:36:01 today and you've moved out, it's still a part of you of how you kind of look at things in society. Because a lot of niggas that have been put on to neighborhoods have been raised in these neighborhoods. A lot of these niggas didn't get put on at 25, 30. A lot of these niggas been in the neighborhood
Starting point is 00:36:18 since they was little kids. You know what I'm saying? Before they even knew what it was and the niggas they were standing around to get put on at 13, 14. So that's why I figure It's a piece of a nigga's heritage, whether he's active today or not. It wouldn't really matter whether he's active or not. It's just his heritage is where he's from.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Because me and you both know, my nigga, you can go to a neighborhood right now and the nigga tell you in San Diego right now, nigga, you can go to a nigga neighborhood and they'd be like this. What, nigga, where are you from? I'm not from nowhere. When nigga, where your grandma stay at? Nigga, where your mama stay at? They're going to determine you off that because niggas be so hungry.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Yeah. You ever notice that? Like, niggas be hungry. Like, I don't know, man. California made niggas be hungry for it. They just want to know. Yeah, that shit. That's your point list to me.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I ain't going to lie. But I mean, South East, that's what earlier. I said Southeast. But I'm talking about the actual gang. Like, you can say, yeah, you say you're from Southeast. No, you can say that that's like a... But niggas can't really get away with that. I think, you know, I think that's what kind of fucks it up
Starting point is 00:37:21 because when niggas get to go do interviews and shit like that, and they was raised in certain areas. niggas don't really like nigga they wish you, nigga don't say that your hood nigga it's a problem It's a problem Huh?
Starting point is 00:37:34 These got hell of hoods in it though That's what I'm saying Yeah, it do But you know what Your hood gonna know who you are And it's gonna be a problem nigga when you didn't do it Straight up
Starting point is 00:37:43 And niggas gotta understand That yeah you are right These is cameras homie These be like niggas gotta kind of watch What they do But they already know It's kind of like a double ed sword
Starting point is 00:37:54 It's like if you don't do it You're fucked If you do it You're fucked. Yeah, that's back to what I was saying, like, I am job politics. Ain't nobody about to tell me nothing about nothing. I'm going. Like, no, this is how I'll go.
Starting point is 00:38:05 You don't go like that. You talk about you mad. You bad. I don't care you got low self-esteem. That ain't my problem. I'm going to build that shit up. Hey, bro. What builds, okay, let's ask this, man.
Starting point is 00:38:19 What builds KT foreign's self-esteem every day? Every day you wake up. What, like, what do you turn to, man? for your motivation. I wake up. I think about getting some paper and get into that million. I'm talking about it.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Trying to figure out my next plans and my next goal. These niggas wake up worrying about what the fuck I'm doing and posting on Instagram and shit like that is making their self more mad. You know what I?
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yeah. Yeah. So even if you was like posting a video and you walking your dog, you're going to be mad at that. Oh, that ain't no Frenchie. Fake-ass French.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And you was just taking your dog who you love. on a stroll down the street. Ugly ass dog. It's early in the morning. You just try to take your dog get some exercise. They're going to be trying to see where I'm at. What streets is that?
Starting point is 00:39:06 And sending it to all these people trying to see if anybody walked that street with that. Why, KT? What, bro, your music, listen, homie. We can't deny. Y'all stop laughing. You can't deny. The music is good. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:19 You seem like a solid nigga. You don't really bother too many people. He's trying to do your shit. Hell you. Where are all the unnecessary? very haters coming from. It's because they don't know me. That's where the frustration comes from.
Starting point is 00:39:32 If you don't know me and I don't, see, I'm not a person that fucks with people. Like, the people I fuck with, I really fuck with. So, like, if you like anybody else outside of them, like, I don't really fuck with people. So that's, it makes it people frustrated. Like, you think you too good to fuck with it? I just don't fuck with people. That's just my movement. It's immaculate.
Starting point is 00:39:50 That's why I am where I am. The structure. That's how I move how I move. You know, like, I'm only, you only see me when I want you to see me. I'm gonna see you before you see me. Like, but I'm gonna fuck with you if I fuck with you, but if I don't then and that's what makes me frustrated.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Then it's like, oh, fuck him. How's your, I'm just asking because I'm sure we all, how's your DMs be looking? They be ugly and they be shitty or fair. Seems like you go through a little bit. Yeah, they'd be both. They'd be both.
Starting point is 00:40:17 But that shit just like. Let it roll off your shoulder. Hell yeah. I laugh at it. You know, that shit's just stay in a request box. Yeah. And I just laugh at it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:26 And, you know, shit. If people get so tired of riding me, though, niggas don't even be riding me like that, for real, like, I'm no bullshit. Sometimes I do here and there, but I don't pay that shit in no mind, so they be like, it's pointless trying to get on the head. I don't got low self-esteem, like I said.
Starting point is 00:40:38 You know what I'll be doing, church? Nicar, they'd be telling me like this. They're getting my inbox. Sharp music, bum ass. Like, yeah, I swear to you, I accepted. I'd be like, man, I love you anyway. You good. Yeah, you bad.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I don't turn some of the, now I don't turn some of the most ruthless, like they hate me, all that man, some of my best friends. For real, because you know what? I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:41:02 You kill them with kindness. Kill them with love. You don't got to match it. Yeah, humble. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you don't got to really match that. You can still entertain it, man. Just give them love.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Eventually, man, they'll come around. Yeah, hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? You could turn. A lot of people don't understand. You can have the power to turn enemy into friend. Right. It's when you kill them with love.
Starting point is 00:41:26 See, hate. can fuel hate. Don't want you to take that back with you, Church. I ain't can fuel hate me, me me, let me tell you something. Love kills hate. When you even tell me the motherfucker, man, I'm gonna kill you, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Yeah, I love you anyway. Church, I ain't got no problems with you. It fucks them up. That's that tricky shit. It fucks them up. No. But it fucks him up. No, it's cool.
Starting point is 00:41:50 But it just, it fucks them up. Because let me tell you something, man. I've only seen somebody who move with like pure anger when they're moving. I've only seen people like that get hurt versus, man. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Being just back, man, just being cool and watch it happen.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And when they come around like a fly, you smack it. Yeah, that shit crazy. You keep it moving. I'll be going through that shit, for real. Yeah, bro. It's got to be hard for you, man, especially being younger and trying to even come up in the music game, especially out of San Diego. Shit hell, especially out of the West Coast, because it's hard for anybody today.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Well, we're the bottom of the West Coast. Well, we're the last city before the border. It's hard as fuck. Like, so when you're doing something out of there, What? Oh, yeah, how the fuck? He, oh, no. Yeah, it's janky.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Damn, they ain't feeling that shit. Ew. You drop a dime on that, nigga. That's what they don't. My partner was talking to me yesterday, right? He had to go over to Mexico. Shout out to truth. He said, he had to go over to Mexico.
Starting point is 00:42:44 He said, they waited until he got past the border to ask him a bunch of questions. He says, man, why are you asking me a bunch of questions? He said, we are already past the border. He said, y'all still ask me quick. Man, we're already home. Well, we got to ask you if you had any drugs and shit like this. He said, man, y'all should have asked me that, man, before I even came through. Passed the border light.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Yeah, like when he came back from Mexico, he said he already didn't come through it. He says, and there's another little check, little check mark or whatever, you know what I'm saying, a little checkpoint to where they start asking additional questions. He's like, man, y'all already didn't let me pass. You know, they be janky up over there, bro. No, for real. They be doing their own shit over there, man. I don't go over there.
Starting point is 00:43:24 I ain't been over there and so long. You don't go to TJ to go play around. Hell no, no more. I used to be that shit all the time, man. I'm never going over there again. Yeah. Yeah, they get the deucey. What was one of your experience?
Starting point is 00:43:34 Because, you know, you can go over there as a kid. Yeah, I've been there with a kid. To T.J. and drink, legally. Oh, no, I don't drink or smoking anything like that. I know you don't, but I'm just saying motherfuckers can go over there and actually go party. So you could be in clubs where, you know, at 16 years old. Hell, hell, hell, hell. No, I only went over there to go to Caliente, for real.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Yeah. Bet on the football games. That was it, football. Yeah, that was it, really. Other than that. I got a note, I got a know, four, get out of it. Did you smack them when you bet? Uh, shit.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Did you smack them? No, I didn't hit before, but I didn't, I lost. Man. I ain't, I ain't gonna say like I smacked them now. Hell, nah, it was like, I'd be doing light shit, too. Like, I ain't been over there in so long, so this is when I got, I was younger. It wasn't like, now, nigga over there,
Starting point is 00:44:15 10 bands or something like, nah, it was just some bullshit. I always wanted to go over there and bet on, like, one of them rooster fights. Yeah, they got all kinds of shit. You know, I'm talking about one of them, um, them roost of a nigga, 10,000. Yeah, they got all kinds of stuff. On Lil Ray riding.
Starting point is 00:44:28 I don't know. Like, I don't know. I want to do some dumb shit. Like, go over there, nigga, wear me a big ass cowboy had of something. Nicar walk over there, just blend in with them. Nicky, look, I got $10,000 or eight. Oh, gee.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Nica, right here, right now. I want it on this rooster. What? I love you, church. I'm just getting fucking with you. Hey, man, we go get up out of here. We go wrap it up, church. I love you.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I appreciate you for coming, man. I hope everything go right for you, church, in your future. Hell yeah. We will definitely be looking out for you, man, and anything else. The Sharp Tank. The G-gang tank, man. You did? I love that.
Starting point is 00:45:08 No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And we're out of here.

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