No Jumper - Lazy-Boy on Being the First Norteño on No Jumper, Insane Face Tattoo & More

Episode Date: March 22, 2024

Lazy-Boy talks about his rise, the Bay, Thizzler showing love, Jenny69, Tory Lanez, waiting for No Jumper to be his first interview, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper coolest podcast the world. Lazy boy in here today. And I was just saying that you're like the first rapper who's ever been early on here, which is pretty rare. Yeah, yeah. So I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm on time. Yeah.

Always on time. On timing? Mm-hmm. Damn. Okay. What time is it? 2.10. So basically, like, I've gotten familiar with you over the years,

both through seeing your stuff go viral and also through some of the live streams that we do, seen a lot of your music on there as well and a lot of people have kind of told me that they feel like when it comes to the Mexican rapper world that the North has been underrepresented on no jumper and then we had to start tapping in with some people who represented up north. Yeah, I agree.

You agree with that. So tell me a little bit about where you're from. San Jose, California is in the Bay Area from the east side like right off a white road Um, Bougainee Park, breeding park. If you're from there, you know. Yeah, uh, uh, what else you want to be?

What was it like growing up out there? Tell me a little bit about it. Yeah, to me, to me it's just kind of regular. Like, uh, you know, it's like gang shit, but that's just California anywhere. But, um, yeah, I'll say, I feel like I was a, I was like a good kid probably. and then I would say probably to like 11 years old. What happened when you're 11th? That's when my parents got divorced.

That's what I remember. I started like messing up in school. And that's kind of when I started, you know, hanging out with, you know, different type of people, whatever. And then, yeah, I'd say like maybe like around like 13 or some, 12. That was like probably like I started like, you know, like fighting and getting in trouble, stuff like that.

And then, you know, I just started learning about, you know, all the shit, you know. So the gang environment was always, like, right outside your door when you were a young dude? Yeah, it's everywhere, yeah. Like, at least in the east side, yeah, it's everywhere, yeah. And so when you were real young, you didn't really think that you would be a part of it? Nope, I never thought that I never, I never wanted to, yeah. Your parents, like, warned you to stay away from it? No, because I see my dad, and he was always, like, involved.

So, you know, I always looked up to him. So it was, it was, like, normal, but it wasn't something I was doing. But then, you know, start getting in the little shit. Yeah. What motivated you to get off the porch per se? Because I feel like, like, I remember, like, being a little kid, and I see some people, like, from the other side. And they'll, you know what I'm saying, try to mess with me and shit like that.

And then I notice whenever I've seen people from my side, they would, like, show me love and stuff like that. you know, so I just kind of mess with you how? You had the ops picking on you at a young age. I don't know about picking on me, but I could just tell they didn't like me. And I just like mugging me, shit like that, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's like when I first started kind of not liking them.

But also like the neighborhood I'm from, it's kind of, that's what it is too, you know. And so you ended up being from the same neighborhood that your dad's from? Neighborhood, yeah. But there's like, you know, back in different cliques, you know. But yeah, same area, yeah. Okay. And so when you decide that you want to get put on, did you have to get jumped in or anything?

I mean, I don't really want to get to any of the specifics, but, I mean, that's how it goes. You know, people know. Okay. Yeah. So it was like an actual decision. You couldn't just say it. Yeah, yeah, for sure the decision.

You check with your dad beforehand? No. How did he find out? What was that? Just getting at school, getting in trouble, you know, fights. Yeah, he didn't like it. But when your dad found out you were part of a gang now? He kind of knew it was coming.

Really? Yeah. Yeah, he knew it was coming. But he didn't, like, support it, though, you know. He tried to make you steer clear of that kind of. What did you tell you about it? Um, just to, oh, like, like, that is dangerous. And, um, that he always told me, like, a lot of, a lot of my boys probably won't be here later.

Mm. Yeah. Or they'll switch up. Really? Yeah. He had experienced that, I'm assuming. Mm. Interesting.

He was right, too, yeah. Did he ever end up doing any long bids in prison or anything? No, no. Just, yeah, just in the streets. Oh, I mean, he did his little shit, but none, none. Yeah. And you were close with them throughout all the years? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, me and my little brother, yeah, to this day, yeah. Definitely. And so, okay, how does your life change when you start, you know, hanging around the neighborhood and everything a lot more? I start, like, having more enemies, like, more things to worry about. And, like, I always wanted to, like, you know, like just be the best at whatever I do, so I was just, you know, just yeah i mean i always wanted to look good at whatever i do you know so yeah going hard

going hard meaning getting involved with what kind of stuff uh shit i mean i just just participating yeah because like in san jose like what is the vibe in terms of like what a young teenagers in a in a gang does you just like hang out outside all day when you go to school It's all gang related. Like, at school, you're not allowed to wear red, blue. You can't even wear the Jordan, certain Jordans, because of the numbers they are. Yeah, shit like that. Yeah.

So, I mean, like, you're going to get pressed when you go out there. If you go to a liquor store and, like, you know, you're Mexican or something. Or pretty much, if you look duggish, they're going to walk up on you, you know. Ask you, like, who are you? Where you from? Definitely. So people don't really wear a whole lot of blue up there? No, they do.

Yeah. there's there's everything out there so this southsiders and nortezos up in san Jose hell yeah a lot yeah because we always like like down here it's like everybody's a fucking south side of yeah yeah yeah but up there it's more of a mix hell yeah and are that is that like the primary beefs that you get involved with or is it like northerner on northerner shit too um uh yeah that's the primary yeah yeah like like with the humeys like now there ain't no you know like we don't uh you know we stick together you know do you uh you listen to rappers who are southsiders no now i see them like if one of them's hard i'll respect it i'm not no hater i'm a

real player you know but but i'm not gonna bump them not because of who they are it's not really my style i like bay area style music you know what i'm okay so the l.s should like that more like i like that more like mobby shit like it's got like a little bit more melody in it Like, you know, my type of shit. It's definitely a different flavor up there versus down here. Yeah, but I do feel like, like, no disrespect, but I feel like a lot of the ones that you're talking about down here, I feel like a lot of them, like, study us,

because I could tell, like, all of a sudden they'll start looking like us, choosing the beats we choose. But we don't really get the credit because we don't have, like, labels and stuff like that, you know. And we got Empire, shout-out Ghazi, I'm my Empire, but we don't have, like, record labels. we don't have no jumpers. We have Dizzler. Right.

That's about it. Shout out Dizzler. So do you feel like who in particular you think is like Jack and styles from up north? I don't really want to say no names, but I say most of them. Really? Yeah. And I'm not the only one that feels like that. Like everything from the way we dress, our haircuts, now, the beats we choose, the way we talk.

because we're real player up there like we're like yeah I mean like people like that shit you know no I mean I have heard a lot of people yeah like we're like we're thugged out but we're real like player with it like smooth talkers you know right yeah like I remember even like when uh when when drako and shoreline mafia were blowing up and stuff there's a lot of people trying to say like a lot of this style is kind of originated or shaped by up north shout out to old Jeezy because I respect because I heard him say uh he said that he got his influence from up here. And he was someone who early on would like put me on to random rappers from Northern California.

Like even all black I found out about him. Oh yeah. Yeah, I don't know all black, but I know he shot all right. Right. I think, yeah, like if you really are a student of California rap, you're kind of missing a big part of the puzzle if you're not paying attention up, no shit. Yeah, that's why I think it's like a big deal that I'm here. I know a lot of people are going to be happy.

Right. at least where i'm from northern kelly you know right yeah yeah i mean i don't want to ever make it seem like we're only with one area or anything like that so when people started to mention like oh you need to get some some northerners on here i was like yeah all right we gotta figure out who's who's doing their thing and you were actually one of the first people came to mind because i seen your shit on stream so many time over the years i heard that i i didn't know if it was just people making that up yeah like people would d me like oh he said your name or this and that yeah well part of it had to be bitches ain't shit on your face

Oh, yeah. That's one of the wildest tattoos I ever heard of. What was going on in your life when you got that? I remember it was me and the homie, and we just running through bitches, you know what I'm saying? Sandho's full of bad bitches, and we both said we're going to get it, but I just got it right there. I think he got it on his neck, I think, yeah. And, I mean, when you say bitches ain't shit exactly, like, what does that mean to you? Like these holes, you know?

Not like good women like these holes, yeah. Right. Yeah. But, I mean, it might be kind of hard to get a good woman when she sees bitches and shit in your face, right? It might be like a self-suffling. Not really. I know a lot of good women that I've dealt with, yeah.

And they don't mind? They're feeling it. Well, I feel like they'd probably rather not be there. But, like, they rock with me, yeah. You never had a girl tell you you had to get rid of it? Not that I had to. She said, oh, yeah, I do wish it wasn't there. but she's gonna deal with it though you know me she's not gonna not rock with me because of that yeah

Crip Mac has a tattooed on his forehead like the Hoover killer thing and like he's he's definitely had a couple girls try to tell him they should get rid of it oh yeah yeah and he's very opposed very very anti that idea yeah so you would never get rid of it no matter what uh I don't know I mean I wouldn't get rid of like no like like like her shit but maybe something like that maybe I don't know I don't really care too though But you got kids? Yeah, I got two daughters. That, I feel like, would be one of the harder parts.

Yeah, shout-outes, arena. Right. Like, have they ever asked about that one? Yeah, yeah, I did think about that yet. But, you know, I got faith that when I break it down to them, they'll understand, though. Right. Definitely. The parent-teacher conference with bitches and shit on your face has got a few wild.

Yeah, I'm not going to lie, that would be weird. Even just having tattoos at all, but then like talking to the female teacher and just thinking in your head, like she's thinking about how this basically says that she ain't shit. Even though in your head, you know you don't put her in the bitch category necessarily unless she steps out of line. But she might just take it as an affront either way. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I couldn't blame her. Yeah. What's the L say inside of it on your forehead?

It says Latino gang. Okay. Yeah. And what's that represent to you? Being Latino and in a gang? Yeah, I don't really want to get too specific about that, but if you're from just Northern County, you'll probably know. Right. You had a name over your eye that is gone now? No, it's not gone. It was just some, it was just some dumb shit in the county. somebody just hitting my shit with a little little staple. And it just fell out?

It was red ink. Yeah, yeah. It was raining? Red ink. Oh, red ink. Oh, shit, okay. Some people think I was lasering it off because of the color. Yeah, yeah, that's why I was thinking too.

Yeah, I actually would want that one gone because it's just there for nothing. It's like a blur. You should probably just get something over it. Yeah, maybe. Cover it up. Damn. So, okay, but when you first got your face tattoo, was that a big decision? No, I always wanted to.

too um because like hell of people where i'm from it's like normal like you know like if you're right around the east side you're gonna see somebody with you know their head or yeah it was part of it for you that you just wanted to kind of take it to a different level and like really cover your shit up uh i just like committed like you know and and and yeah and i didn't really ever think i wanted a job yeah i was just like committed to that you know if i asked you when you you were 16 or 17, like, what do you see yourself doing with your life? What would you have said? I used to tell everybody I was going to be famous when I was a little kid. Yeah. What do you think that you've been trying to fill that ever since? I would act like I was like a rapper.

Like I'll play some, like a radio song. I act like it was me rapping and like my, you know, I remember like my sisters or whoever they'll act like they're like the audience, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, I always wanted to be something like, you know, like special or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Was part of it getting bitches and shit in your face? Was part of it like just knowing that it would be viral and it would be something that people wouldn't be able to ignore? I've never in my life than anything for clout. Because if I wanted to, I always felt like I could be bigger if I did a little goofy shit. But I always wanted like, you know, to my homies, always respect everything I do.

It's important to me. Right. It's like my reputation is more important than anything to me. I feel it. Yeah. but I feel what year do you think you got it? Oh, the bitch's and shit? Yeah.

I don't know. A few years ago, maybe like a little more than five. Yeah. It's kind of like the soundcloth era when I feel like a lot of viral face tattoos were going off. Yeah. And Frank on the face. Yeah, that's true. But I never been like, I never knew about the soundcloth stuff until later.

And then I start seeing all these sound call rappers look crazy. Yeah. Definitely. But I was never in the sound cause. I was on YouTube. mean you feel like you get bothered by the cops more hell yeah well all the cops in my city know me like they're gonna walk up on me like oh lazy boy you know what they just search you automatically or what yeah yeah i'm not gonna lie like they're crooked out there yeah how so i was shooting a video

and um uh they were i guess they're watching me the whole time like in undercover cars but i didn't know so they walk up on me after and um me and um me and uh we can't We caught our case like that, yeah. They just walked up on you and searched you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to homie loki, yeah. They walked up on us and, no, no, they blurped us, my bad. We're about to get on the freeway.

And then, you know how, like, they don't have jurisdiction on the freeway? They don't. No, not like regular. The highway patrol can get you on the highway? So they got us right on the entrance. And, yeah, I just got surrounded by all these chargers and shit. And I didn't know at first who it was. And then they walked upon us

And we're both like, we don't consent to searches And the cop The cop looked at this and he said, I don't care of my search anyway And we just said, we don't consent The car's legit And then, um, allegedly, well, we beat the case So I could say, this is recent too.

They found a couple guns Allegedly in the glove. They had to like rip the car open though Because it wasn't just like right there And, uh, and then um we uh we end up lawyering up and uh we beat the case because of a legal search really but we still had to spend hell of money though because even if you're innocent but you don't have a good lawyer

you probably won't beat it right that's what's messed up you know yeah that's crazy but that's just like the recent thing like man they they harass all of us like just all the time like even if like we're kicking out the park they'll walk up like hey you can't hang out here but it's like you I mean that's not illegal you can hang out of the park you know but they'll say get the fuck out of here or arrest you take you in but they're just like really overbearing and just yeah they always trying to fuck the neighbor they're hella extra yeah not let you just be able to hang out they don't want you shoot no videos nothing you know they'll probably let you shoot it but they'll be waiting for you after really they'll follow you yeah interesting oh but I didn't

get to finish when they we still had to go to jail that day um we had to bail out but uh when I got out all the cash I had on me. I mean, it was only like, like, like 600 or something, but it was all missing. Yeah. I was like, is it in evidence? They're like, no, you never had it. So that's happened a couple times, you know, they'll rob you. Damn.

Do you feel like the policing shit has gotten better, though, with like the body cameras and shit like that? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would say, yeah, because I always say, hey, is your body camera on? I say that so they know that, like, I'm thinking of that, you know? Because if I'm a cop and like naturally I'm kind of a scumbag. I'm just going to like take the $600.

But then when I think about it, it's like the body camera, the body camera is how I'm going to get caught. Because if it ain't for the body camera and I'm arresting a guy and he's got $600 bucks on his pocket, I'm putting it in my pocket and how the fuck you're ever going to prove that you had it or that the $600 that I got is yours. You're never going to be able to prove it unless it's body can for it. The thing is since they were all undercovers, I think only one black and white car was there. so most of them didn't have body cameras. And then, yeah, yeah, only I think one had one. That makes sense. Yeah, because they were all in chargers and shit.

They were dressed like me and you. Definitely. So what made you actually want to start rapping? I just always love music. Yeah. And I like rap to my boys and shit. And they always told me I was harder than everybody else. Yeah.

So, and then shit. Shout out Dizzler because they kind of gave me, like, more, like, confidence to want to do it. That's the first platform you went viral on or that posted your music. Yeah, yeah, that's the first. That's the first one that, like, my song did, like, a good amount of views, you know, like, like, five million or something like that. Yeah. And they would just post me, like, just on the love, like, no charge, you know? And they didn't do that for most people.

But did they get the money from the video? Well, like, publishing and masters and all that, I'm going to get it, you know. but it's their YouTube channel. Right. No, but I had all my shit in line, though. Okay. Yeah. That's what's up.

But, uh, so, was it like the, the first video that you got on Fizzler just went crazy? No. Just did numbers or you'd be on there a bunch of times? So they dropped a few audios for me. And then I think I had a video with other people, but I'm not really known to do features, though. But, uh, and then my first solo video was in my hood. Uh-huh. Yeah.

And that's the one I liked, like, like, almost six million. Yeah. Damn. So how did that change your life? Change everything. I remember in Sandho there's this, there's this little event they do called Boulevard Nights. It's really like you're just in the streets. Everybody has lowriders and all that. Everybody links up in parking lots.

And it was the first day anybody ever like walked up and asked me to take a picture. But everybody was doing just the whole night. And that was the first time I ever realized, oh shit, people know who I am now. Yeah. and then after that that's how I got you know I had a meeting with Empire and Ghazi like and it just kind of all went from there you know right you know and those people around me helping me too it wasn't just like I did it on my own you know right definitely and so once you did you you sign with Empire and stuff but do you feel like you made the right moves with that early viral fame or like do you have regrets about how you handled it I don't know about regrets but I feel like I maybe like just should have did more. I feel like you always feel like you should do more though, you know. Right. But I'm

I don't have no regrets about like no like things I did like you know I mean like I don't regret like I never did no goofy shit or nothing like that yeah. Right. Do you but it's very hard to break out of the the Northern California scene like there's a lot of artists out there

who can do half a million or a million views on their shit but then they kind of can't break out of that world. They won't really get no calls yet. But really LA is like that, New York is like that, you know, a shitload of states are kind of like that. It's easy to, it's not easy, but it's like it's one thing to have a fan base in your area and it's a totally different thing. Yeah, and then also like there's so many politics that people don't work, can't work together, you know? So it also probably slows us down. Yeah. Yeah. Like I was interviewing these, these Arab kids. They're in like an Afghan gang, basically, and they're from the Bay area.

and I'm talking to them and I'm kind of realizing that they would like to do music with the rappers from Northern California but to them it's kind of like too much of a risk because if they start with one rapper they're basically

tied in with them and can't with any of the other ones so for them then it kind of becomes like oh I'm just not going to do future with anybody yeah the way I look at is like if you're just a civilian I don't care who you do shit with I'm not going to get mad you know I mean but if you're like choosing sides then that's different you know you're like outside thugging with them or you're like

talking shit about the people they talk shit about like like laughing with them and shit like that that's different you know is coming to l a nerve-wracking for you at all i was nervous about the interview how come never did one it's my first interview i'm i told you i told your your coworker or your employee i told them uh that i've been hit up by almost every california interview there is but i always told myself I'm only doing no jumper and then I'll do the other ones. Wow, wow. I would have done in a while back if I knew that. I do want to say shout out Vlad TV

because they did hit me a while back. Really? But I was just dealing with shit in my life and I just wasn't, didn't care. You know what I mean? But I hope he doesn't think that like I didn't want to do it because I never really said anything. I just said, okay, I'll let you know. But it was like bullshit going on like street shit, just

all that. Yeah, I mean? Really? Yeah, just a bunch of shit. So there's a lot of drama around your neck of the woods? Yeah, hell yeah, like, and like, I don't know, it's hard to explain. Like, like, so in other places, somebody, this is what my homie told me, because he's been all over the country, you know, shout out my boy, money. He goes to other states and he said, when you go to other states, people meet you and they automatically show you love. They only don't like you if you give them a reason to, but in Northern County, people automatically don't like you, and you got to give them a reason to like you, you know what I'm saying? There's a lot of truth.

Yeah. Yeah. He just told me that yesterday, yeah. It's like everybody is so concerned with their position and how well respected they could be, that everybody automatically is kind of like a threat to that. Yeah, and especially in my city, or just in Northern Kelly period, but I'll speak on my city. Like, it's so many egos. It's a lot of people out there, too, you know, not as big as L.A., but it's like, I think like a little over a million or something, like 1.2 or something like that.

But everybody got an ego, you know? Right. And if you're looking good, they don't like that. If they don't hang out with you and you're shining, they're not going to like that, you know? Right. I saw another clip where you were talking about how people have a grudge against San Jose in general. Like people think y'all are. It's because in the Bay Area, well, there's probably a few reasons.

You're an Opi City? Yeah. You guys are a lot of ops over there. People just kind of look at you guys as being the bad guys, you think? Yeah, so San Jose is hella gang banged out, right? Now, other cities in the Bay, there, like you'll get pressed up too but it's different though

you know in sand hole it's like like you know like it's just all gang banging it's not really that in other cities other cities it's more like you know like blocks neighborhoods and shit but sandhull's like the only major city in the bay where it's all gangbanging yeah in the bay you know

and you guys get into it with like black gangs as well or is it all your own shit not like we're we're cool like unless something happens between us which It can, you know? If something happens, I mean, that's what anybody. But just off the rip, no.

No, we're all off the rip, we're going to be cool. Like, as long as nobody's done none to each other, it's all love. You know what I mean? 100%. Yeah, we kick it with them. Like, yeah. So it just depends on individuals, yeah. From your perspective, who are the Mexican rappers that you f***ed the most out of California?

Shit, all the homies. You know, like, there's a lot of homies. popping off you got Rico too smooth um you got acito gb uh rest in peace t ys um baby face with free free will he's locked up um there's a lot that are like popping though like like you i mean like when they go somewhere people walking up to them like that you know yeah do you think it's growing a lot because i feel like it's growing in hell yeah in southern california that it's like that scene all these different podcasts and instagram accounts and instagram accounts and more and more artists.

Even Dizzler, they're posting like everybody now. They used to only do Bay, you know. Yeah. And then I feel like you and the food community, you guys helped that a lot too, like shine some light on us. Yeah. Yeah, it's coming together. Even though we've never been here until today.

But do you feel like you have a fan base in Southern California? You feel like it's mostly northern? I get a bunch of DMs from Southern Cali, but of course Northern Cali is stronger, you know? But, you know, and then like the states around it, I get a lot of love. Do you actually bother to check out all the rappers from L.A. and shit? Yeah, I always watch your channel. I always watch interviews.

Yeah, I watched it. I always watch them normally, but especially because I know I was coming here, I watched all your interviews just to kind of do my homework on what it's going to be like. But so even if you're like, like, you're saying that you wouldn't really listen to a South Side or whatever, like, do you still tap in and, like, figure out what a lefty gun play sounds like just so you know what's going on? I follow you guys, so I'm always interested in what's going to. on. Yeah.

So I'm, I'm in the loop, yeah. You impressed by lefties come up the past couple months? Yeah.

Yeah. Anybody who comes up like that, especially a Mexican, like we, uh, we, you know,

I mean, we all got it hard, but North, California Mexicans, we got it, I feel like a little harder. Right.

You know. But he's, he's said that he basically can't work with anybody from the north. And I, and I wouldn't work

with him or none of them. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I mean you don't think that that shit would be better if that kind of changed or like people were able to work together I don't know if it'd be better I mean anything anything's possible but just me though because there's certain things that that have happened and shit So I can never do that

Because I when when lefty first starts doing interviews there's another rapper named Roddy Racks from around like similar type of area and like people right away were asking like could you guys do a son together and lefty's basically saying like no we're not like super ops but there's people associated with him there's people that I'm close to don't get along with each other so there was like reasons why they wouldn't be able to work together but then I guess like the business of it and like people just kind of help make it cool and they ended up working together and it really only took like a month or two after they started doing interviews for that shit to happen and I feel like that's probably a good thing Probably like the supporters wanted it.

Plus nothing serious probably happened between their people. Yeah. Like nobody died. It's like a certain level of beef that you just can't get past. Yeah, it's a certain line. Yeah. Interesting. Why did you ban Torrey Lanes from the Bay?

Oh. So my boy, the one I talked about a few minutes ago, A Money, he booked him for some event. And it was on Tori's Instagram and all that. know oh by the way we cleared that up shout out Tori you know I personally talked to him he slapped your homie no he's not he didn't slap no my homies oh I thought you said that he like did something or he ran off with some money on your friend no no no no he ain't no he ain't no he ain't slap nobody no what happened was uh was he paid him through the phone like you know

like you know a wire my boy booked him and uh tory lanes never showed up I don't know what happened he started ignoring or whatever you know i mean so i was the one with the voice like at all my people so i was like man i got to use my voice for good you ain't gonna burn the homie you know and i was like tory probably don't know how us northern cali mexicans get down you know so yeah so so so i made this little video i never did no shit like that i made this little video and uh uh uh like 24 hours go by and Tori sends me a DM. I think he said, I ain't no bitch or some, call me or something like that.

And then when I get on the phone, he's like, bro, my phone ain't stopped going off for the last like 24 hours. He's like, well, he told me was he's all, I don't know who you are, but you must be somebody where you're from because my phone won't stop. And he's like, let's get to the bottom of this. And so how'd that go? So he said he didn't take it, but somebody with him,

was involved in like a little scam or some. I don't know. I don't remember the guy's name or none, but Tori made it right. Okay. That's why I say shout out of Tori. He made it right. Me and him talked on the phone for like a half hour. Yeah. Really? Yeah. What did you think? He told me

he respected me for what I did that if it was him, he did the same shit. Yeah, I fuck with Tori, he was cool, yeah. So when the... Yeah, free Tori, yeah. When the May the same thing came out, how did you feel? Because this was before all that? I mean, I feel like he ain't do that shit. Like he ain't guilty.

That's what I feel like. A lot of people feel that way. Yeah. I noticed on the internet, everybody feels like that too, yeah. Yeah. Tori did a hell of a job coming up in the world. Yeah, and they gave him some time, too, I think, like 10 years or something? Yeah, I think they're expecting him to do like seven years, and he's already done a couple,

so he might be released in like four or five years, but they're expecting that he probably won't be able to come back to America. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. He's pretty crazy. Canada, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he might be stuck up there, which is pretty wild to imagine. it's got a hurt it's cold

you just can't leave yeah that'll suck damn maybe we can go to San Jose well not really that's in America but yeah maybe we can get an exemption yeah um so I saw a clip of you talking about

how there was a famous rapper who wanted to work with you and you basically couldn't do it because they had beef with one of your friends um do you remember who it was no you didn't say it I was just wondering who you were referring to you made it sound like it was somebody pretty well known in the video

clip that I saw I'm trying to think because I shit like this has happened more than once Really? Yeah and what kind of stuff gets in the way of it? But but yeah oh shit like that like Okay there was one there was one rapper who's well known I don't want to air him out

But he wanted to do an album with me And they were trying to line it up like you know Like the people I'm with and stuff Not my friends like you know like music people. And so I end up finding out his homie that he kicks it with every day. He got some bad paperwork. But not the rapper, though.

The rapper is technically good. But I said, now I ain't going to do it because you'd be chilling with him. So they were like, no, it's going to be a good move. I was like, I can't do it. Snitch stuff? No, like messing with little girls and shit. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah.

Just his friend? Yeah. Does the world know? And the world doesn't really care? The world knows. It's in the news or whatever? The world knows. He's like, no.

Yeah, I don't want to say no names, but yeah. Damn. You know, they know everybody knows. Yeah, so. Interesting. Do you think that you ever listen to South Park Mexican? I know who he is, but he got bad charges too. I know.

He's been locked up for like 20 years for it. You ain't in Northern Cali, like, it don't matter how many accomplishments you have. Once you snitch or do any PC activities, you're done. Really? Yeah. Like your shit your your career is done Cause like I feel like in Texas It would normally be like that but he's been locked up for 20 years

And I remember how popular he was before he got locked up I know he was real big Super big yeah he is and I mean I kind of thought he was done But then over the last couple years he was like seen more and more people putting his shit on ticot And I guess it just never really stopped down south like they just been fucking one of the forever I hear that and I don't know if it's because they don't believe the accusations about him or if it's more of a situation or where they just don't give a f***. But he's supposed to be getting out, like, within the next year or two.

I heard that, yeah. And so then we're going to basically, like, find out how he's able to fit into the new rapper landscape. Because there's a bunch of, like, pop and Texas rappers who fuck with him and they show respect to him and shit, which is interesting. Yeah, like, see, the thing is, like, are, like, morals and shit are stronger out here. You think? Mm-hmm.

In certain ways. I'm sure they have good morals, too, but on some street shit, though, like, some gang shit like there's just certain things that's a no no matter what no matter who it is could be your best friend no matter what do you think people are getting too lax with snitching and shit like that in particular

hell yeah yeah they'd be making excuses about people like trying to save them like man if the paperwork there is there once the judge said you did some you did it but you'll see somebody say oh I really know him he wouldn't do that he didn't do it but it don't matter once the judge

says it's bad damn so yeah but like don't you agree that there are certain like kind of edge cases like there's there's there's levels to snitching at this point you have the full blown six nines then you have like a gunna where it's like he did say something that like the gang or the crew

didn't appreciate or whatever but then you have it even going to like other situations I have a friend who's a rapper who basically like while he was getting arrested he made like one comment during the arrest I don't know if you can really call it snitching, but, you know. So I'll say this. He had to deal with a ton of shit for it, even if it didn't really end up destroying them.

Yeah, yeah. So it depends, like, who their people is, right? But like my people, let's say me and you are in the car and there's a gun, but it's like, it's not on our body. It's just in the back. If they pull us out the car and I tell the cops, it's not my gun, that's all I say, it's not my gun. That's snitching. That's like, I guess people will call it dry snitching. but because I'm pretty much hinting,

you're the only other one in the car. So I'm pretty much saying it's yours. So even that is like we don't do that, you know? But on the internet, Instagram, everybody just said, that's not snitching, like, you know what I mean? But that's snitching though. Like any information, you can't give no information. Dry snitching is snitching.

Like, it's the same thing. It's just, I guess, a smaller deal, you know? Damn, yeah. It's crazy. Like, I know this dude from Texas, TZ, E. Nadi, who got arrested for planning out a murder the other day, or, like, arrested for having a gun on him and immediately snitched on his homies. I woke up this morning and seen him on your Instagram.

Immediately told the cops, no. And my friends, they're going to kill someone. Yeah, man. Hey, my advice to, you know, my advice to all the kids or anybody, when you get arrested, you say, I need my lawyer. That's it. Right. As soon as you know you're being charged, you say, I need my lawyer.

You don't say nothing else. Getting arrested and immediately snitching is like being a girl and giving up the pussy not on the first night Instantly you lose all of the leverage that you had because if you really wanted to snitch You would wait and like tell the cops like I have an arrangement. I would like to make you I'm gonna tell you about this in exchange If you just tell them right away you don't get like you just finish for no reason You didn't make them earn it. Yeah, you just sniff for no reason I hate to be given like advice on how to snitch but it seems like you know You gotta do some fucking common sense.

Many snitches are crazy because people still love them. I mean? Like if they're famous or whatever, like, that should be tripping me out. People are really gonna turn them blind eye. Yeah, like, if I was to ever do some weird ass shit, like, people, you're gonna see the repercussions where I'm from. Like, you ain't just be no rapper out here like that and you did some whole ass shit. You know that your homies would turn a blind eye? No.

It's the same rule. for me. It don't matter if I'm lazy boy or whoever. If I do something bad, they're going to try to do me in, too, and it's vice versa. You know what I'm saying? Right. Where did you get the lazy boy name? That's just what the homies in the neighborhood named me. I honestly never liked it, but it just stuck to me. They always feel like you had kind of like a sleepy vibe. Yeah, but I really don't. If I'm just not really interested in doing something, I don't do it.

Like remember I told you all the interview people hit me and I said no? Some of my people might be like, oh, you're just lazy, you don't want to go. But really it's just I'm not interested. I'm not going to do it. But it could get mistaken for being lazy. So it makes sense. I mean, I feel like in California in general, there's just a lot of chillness going around, a lot of chillers. A lot of people, like, their whole vibe is just like very chill.

Personally, I think it's because everybody smokes smoking high-powered weed in high school and shit. Yeah, so when you leave like, like, it's probably less like this now, but when I leave New York back in the day and come to California, it'd be like, oh, everybody is so laid back and like chill versus in New York where nobody, well, people, I've never been there. Not as intense. Oh, okay, okay. Out here, I feel like. But now people smoke weed everywhere. Yeah, it's all legal. Yeah.

Yeah, so what about you? You smoke, you drink? What do you do? A little bit. Like, not really, though, no. It has to be like a certain event or something, you know what I mean? You're not just like rolling alone every night or? Nah, all my homies are, though.

Like, I mean, I'd be in the studio. I guess I get contact high because it'd be hot boxing in there, you know what I'm used to it, though. Yeah. Do you record a lot still? yeah yeah yeah yeah I got a project coming out I don't know what it's called but it's gonna come out I just shot a video like two days ago I got another one uh next weekend yeah right and do you uh do you feel like you're still motivated to keep going with the music even though you went viral like so many years ago yeah yeah um yeah I feel like uh like I just had made a song the other day and everybody was like

hey bro you like you grew from like the last song or from the last like songs we heard like So I feel like I'm getting better. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Who would you want to work with? I still got a lot to do. If it came down to it, you had the option, working with, like, a bigger artist. Who comes in mind?

Maybe like, maybe like a singer. Like, you know what I mean? Bad money? Yeah, shout out to him. I don't really know stuff like that, but I know who he is. No, more like a, like, maybe. Maybe like, I don't know, like a girl singer or some. I think I'd go good because my music's like melody too.

Jenny, 69. Yeah, she's hard. Yeah. I don't know her. Yeah, yeah, she's hard. Yeah, she's putting it on for the people. Yeah. She's doing her thing.

Yeah, I've seen her getting some hate, but that's how this shit goes, though. Yeah, she got attacked by some girl. Yeah, I seen that. For rapping over her SBM. But see, I should have mentioned that earlier. Yeah, but I see, like, they're tripping on her, but she's just a girl, civilian. She's not going. She's just out here being hot.

Yeah, if that was like a gangster saying that, then okay, yeah, that makes sense. Get on them, right? Right. But if it's a girl, like, that's kind of just bully shit because she's not even know. I'm pretty sure she's rapping over the beat, too. It's like what? She's supposed to know every fucking beat ever. Yeah, exactly.

It's like she's hanging out. Yeah. Especially she's not from there, so. She's from Riverside. She was like a YouTube makeup artist before she was rap. Yeah, I think when they did that to her, whoever that was, you guys are weak for this. That's a cloud play, right? Yeah, it's a cloud play.

just some bully shit. Yeah. Like if you got a real issue with somebody, that's probably not how you'd go about handling it, right? Yeah, that was weak. I think they even apologize or some or try to explain themselves or some because they knew it was weakest.

You know what I mean, yeah. Definitely. Who influenced your haircut? Shit, I'm from Northern Cali. We all got this shit. You see my friends out there, they all got it. You notice some of the southern Mexicans are starting to copy us now.

Well, I just had Chita Ranas on here, and he got a sort of similar thing going on. Well, he really is from Northern Cali. He's from Shaq. I mean, he ain't with us, but you know what I'm saying? Right. He's his own thing. But I guess he really is from another country. But still, though, even though he's from here, it's like, bro, like, you ain't, I don't know.

So the idea, it's kind of like Edgar right in the front. Nah. High fade. No, no. It's not like Edgar on the front. Don't ever call me an Edgar. No, sorry. I'm talking about the haircut.

Oh, no, no. The Edgar shit, that shit, that should go. like oh that's got to be lower yeah okay yeah it's kind of like a long fade like long on the top not so it's a taper and then the tail right yeah but not like a rat tail like more like a the progressive shit i've seen chito with is that he had like a like a a spot where it's bald and then it goes into the tail we'll just call it we'll call here's like a possum tail or something sure yeah there's a lot of technology going on out there just different haircuts that people never even thought of before yeah but but one thing I want to say is like I was saying earlier our

style like everybody takes it but they don't admit they do but I see no GZ admit it that's why I said respect to him but he's not doing all that shit with the yeah yeah he was just talking about his influence you know me but I just mean style in general the way we dress the way we talk the music the beats we choose I feel like you know not all of them but most of the Mexicans in southern California day they look up to our shit but they'll never admit it though I mean O Jee's someone who really pushed the Mexican mop top he just came out with just a big old mop on his head and he was just like this is me yeah and I feel like a lot of people that that influence them to have longer hair yeah I got a

homie from the hood shout out my bro Doja we'd be calling him O Jeezy because he's like the same he looks like I mean yeah shout out my little brother Fury too he's in the corner right there yeah sure um so what you got planned what's going on what's happening in the life of lazy boy shit I mean the no jumper shit that was kind of like you know like the thing I was thinking about so just see where it takes me you know but other than that just working just you know recording I don't really do a lot of features you ask me who would I want to work with so it's like kind of hard to answer that because so when I first started rapping I always told myself I want to

like prove it to myself first like I didn't want to live in nobody's shadow like that was like important to me I was like man if I can't do it myself I'm I don't need to do it, you know. So I never really think about working with people. I mean, people are like paying me for, you know, features and shit. But as far as like collabing, I just don't really think about that, honestly. But I should, I do want to do it like I know it's good to do. I just haven't thought about it yet.

Definitely. I'm still trying to do like as much as I could, like with me. And then I want to start working with people and doing something different yet. Definitely. Yeah. Well, it was good to finally connect. Yeah. Anything else you want the people to know about you?

Anything we haven't touched on? I don't think so, not that I could think of. Basically what we're trying to say is, bitches ain't shit. Yeah, bitches ain't shit, yeah. But hos and tricks? I don't listen to the song, but I know the lyrics. Really?

Yeah. It wasn't influenced by the song. It's just like a happy accident? Yeah, I was just, yeah, I really never listened to that song, yeah. Damn, okay. Yeah, but yeah, I appreciate you guys having me in. Shout to all my people, you know, all the supporters that's in the CETIS. You know what I'm saying?

Okay, here's a good question. Who do you think that we should interview after you? Oh, a whole bunch of people. Some of them are right out there. But you remember all the names I said earlier? Yeah. Yeah, all them. You got, you got my producer, fingers.

it's a lot like all the names I said like you know like acito GP um oh you got young eggs you know what I'm saying like there's a lot of like a lot of the ones you interview they're like at least on their level at least but since you know we live far away you probably don't notice as much but you know they get the same recognition where they're from yeah shit I'm down let's let's check them out for sure yeah I feel like you should start interviewing northern Cali a lot more okay let's tap in Yeah, yeah. Let's get familiar.

Lazy Boy, you got to help me get guided in that direction. Yeah, yeah, I'll send you some people. The show. Let's do it. All right, I appreciate you, man. Much love. Thank you for pulling up. Lazy Boy, no jumper.

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