No Jumper - Li Rye on Signing to Gucci Mane, If He's a Demon, The 1017 Curse & More

Episode Date: March 7, 2023

Li Rye talks about his come-up, Alabama, his influences, and more. ----- 00:00 Intro 0:08 Li Rye tells us about taking out the “L” from “Lil” in his name 0:30 Li Rye talks about coming out of... Mobile, Alabama and his father and step-dad going to prison 3:05 Being outside at a young age and wanting be a dentist growing up 5:20 Hanging out with older kids in high school and being influenced by friends doing xan 7:35 Graduating high school and being a huge fan of Lil Wayne and Chief Keef 10:00 Rappers incriminating themselves and best rappers coming out of Alabama 14:00 Street life after high school, getting harassed by police after blowing up and dissing the opps 18:00 What it takes to blow up out of Mobile, blowing up off of his first music video and stealing flows 20:30 Gucci Mane reaching out and getting Instagram pages deleted 24:30 Shooting a video with Gucci Mane, how times have changed and the “1017 Curse” 26:30 R***m in Alabama 31:00 Li Rye lists all of his hometown musical influences and people calling him a “demon” 34:05 Li Rye dropping his first 1017 tape and how he got his name ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper. Coolest podcast on the world. And today we got a little ride on the podcast. So, okay, first things, is it okay to say Lil? Or do we have to, like, go out of our way to say Le? No, you're good. It's Lil. I just took out the other L to be different because there's a lot of fucking Lil's out of.
Starting point is 00:00:17 That is true. I probably interviewed, like, many hundreds of Lil's. Probably me. So you just took the second L off. But when you pronounce it, you intention, just let. Like, Lil. Like, it's Lil. It's feeling with the edges.
Starting point is 00:00:33 It's something shit, though. I like it. All right, cool. So you're from Mobile? Yeah. Well, tell me a little bit about growing up out there. Because I spent some time in Pensacola, Florida, so we'd be going back and forth over there a little bit.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Mobile is just, it ain't nothing to do. That's why I so big on crime. I seen some, we're the second-in-law-dain just sitting in the country. And does it feel like that when you're there? No, and I'm not, I don't be having nothing to worry about it. It'd be cool on my hand. But it's bad, though. Like, it ain't no real money out there.
Starting point is 00:01:07 It ain't no jobs. It ain't shit to do with the wrong by. Damn. So what kind of environment were you brought up in? The private. Like, just long. I was in all. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:01:23 When I first, when I first was born, my mama took me to all. My granddad, I was in Pritchard. That's shit on Station Street or something like that. Pritchard, so close to Mobile, we just said to something and shit for real. But it's two different cities. But Pritcher was horrible. It's still, it got better though.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Everything got better. It just ain't nothing. Nothing you don't want to grow up in. Right. So what were your parents on? What career was or whatever? Yeah, my dad was in prison for real, for real. Oh yeah, because your dad is locked up for 19 years?
Starting point is 00:02:05 My stepdad. His stepdad? That's my stepdad. Okay. He was there. My dad went to prison when I was five. That's when my stepdad got there. And he just went to prison.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I was like 15 and some shit. So your stepdad just got 19 years. What was that for? 19 years. It's got to be pretty serious. That's some bullshit. Damn. So.
Starting point is 00:02:26 System just fucked up. How did that change your life when your dad got locked up at 5? I mean, I was 5. He made me no difference. The big, the thing that changed my shit with my stepdad, because it was like he was doing everything. So when he left, I had to go for 15, 25 instant. Really?
Starting point is 00:02:52 Damn, wow. So, like, your stepdad, that made that much bigger of an impact on you? He had just really taken on that role in your life? Yeah. He really, my dad and said, all five. like he'd been to my whole life you feel and so that shit was just
Starting point is 00:03:07 damn but so okay like when you were a young kid though what kind of shit were you what kind of upbringing did you have were you outside a lot were you like getting into trouble as a young guy no I wasn't even like
Starting point is 00:03:19 I wasn't even just bad I was good until I got to high school that's when I started doing shit just doing shit doing shit well not really like like everybody was outside
Starting point is 00:03:31 when we were little when nobody in the house, like, your mama putting you out, like, go outside and play, you feel it. So everybody was outside. But you're like, if people got old and started seeing no shit, it was like, it was like, oh, this I need to focus on. I need this, this, this. And I'm saying everybody had to focus on trying to get some money.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Right. Especially in, like, a town or a city where there ain't no money to be made, really. It just becomes like a real crabs-in-a-barrel-ass mentality of just people trying to get something and you just see it play out. The results usually ain't good. Shit, they're telling out tennis, she's not going to go do it. But if I had asked you at that age when you're like entering high school or whatever,
Starting point is 00:04:09 if I had been like, what do you see yourself doing as an adult? What would you have probably said? I wanted to be like a fucking, I want to be a dentist. Tennis? Yeah, yeah. And now you've had a lot of dental work done. Yeah, real shit. I wanted to be a dentist, though.
Starting point is 00:04:26 It was interesting to me. But then, like, once you, you, you know, get older and really see like the struggle that you in it changed your outlook on life you start looking at everything different doing shit different moving different you feel everything just change once you really like once your mindset finally hit that point to where like you know where you're at in life and where you want to be or need to be or feel like you got to be she just start changed so you never even really got started on your dentistry journey Yeah, I'm like.
Starting point is 00:05:02 That's too bad. Because I was on, I got the high school at like 13. I got the high school at like 13. And graduated at 17. So I was young. So I was, what that shit is, when you, I can't think of the fucking word. Impressionable. That's what I was impressionable.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Right. And so what was having an effect on you at that time? Like what kind of music are you listening to? Were you around dudes who are. party in the streets and shit. Hey, I'm, like, I only had, like, two home boys who was the same age of me. The rest of them was, like, I got to the ninth grade, everybody I'm hanging with in the 11th grade.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I want to hang with nobody at my age yourself for them, two people. And them two people, big brothers, was in the ninth grade who I was hanging with. So, like, I wasn't ever even around kids. I was around older people. Right. And were you kind of attracted to that lifestyle? You're, like, staying out with them? smoking and doing all this other shit?
Starting point is 00:06:04 I ain't, I didn't start smoking, I was like, Saltonian. Okay. I stayed away from Joe's for a long gas time. But then everybody was on, like, bars and shit. Bars. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Fucking high school full of Zanheads. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. That sounds like a zombie movie, bro. A nigga come to school, like, they used to come to school, like, with two balls and a spark. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:06:29 And just drop them in there? Yeah, I already be in there. Like, they got it ready. So as soon as they get to school, the school starts, that's when they open it, get the junk. Right. In school, where it's like, I already, I was going to school sober every fucking day,
Starting point is 00:06:43 and I still had such a hard time remembering anything that they were fucking talking about when it came time to do a test or anything. So the idea of being on Xanax to me is almost like hilarious. Man. And it's like, it was one day I took a sip of this shit, and I just not knowing how strong it is because I'm looking at them. They eyes might be lower. They might just talk slow or something shit.
Starting point is 00:07:02 But it ain't like the it just overpowered him. I took a sip. I took a sip what? 9 o'clock in the morning, I woke up at 3. I don't remember nothing. You just passed out in class? And it's like, you know, on the bar, you ain't, like, you might feel like you sleep,
Starting point is 00:07:19 but you might not even be asleep. Like, every time I'm asleep, they wake me up, we're going here, going down. I don't remember shit. Yeah, that's the worst feeling when you wake up in the morning and you got to try to look through your text and figure out what the fuck you did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:31 You don't know what the fuck happened. Yeah, man. But so, okay. So you were hanging out with younger guys, basically, when you were in junior high and everything. Yeah. How far into high school did you make it? I graduated.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Oh, you did graduate. That shit was easy. I was a, I was a, um, I was smart of here. I was an honor classes. I used to skip honor classes to go be with everybody who in regular class. Because they didn't put me an honor, like, how I was too bad.
Starting point is 00:07:59 They didn't put me an honor class. I got to like that. living grade. So it's like, I'm in regular, I'm in regular class with everybody, helping everybody with their work and shit like that. I remember I got in trouble in elementary school because the teacher asked me, do I want to teach the class? I said, yeah, and I taught the class, and she called my mom.
Starting point is 00:08:18 That was the weirdest shit I ever seen. So you were actually up there doing the best job you could teaching? Yeah, yeah. I talked. Oh God, I walked in and they tried to teach the class. She was like, no. Wow. She was a heck.
Starting point is 00:08:30 I still love her, though. Were you into, like, rap since you were younger, though? Uh, my stepdaddy played a lot of shit. Like, a lot of shit. Like, a lot of shit. Mm-hmm. From, like, man. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I just remember burning his CDU and shit. I used to love that I'm not a human being, too, shit. You know what I'm talking about? I bet with him. He was a legend. And even though he wasn't really that young when he was, like, huge at that certain point, like he still just seemed very young. And I feel like still to this day,
Starting point is 00:09:03 a huge percentage of young people that I talked to who are rapping, Lil Wayne is like the thing they were listening to when they were like 10 years old, 12 years old. Yeah, I was about 9, 10. Then Chief Key came and I was just listening to Chief Key for so fucking long. Right. So he's still my favorite.
Starting point is 00:09:21 He's been my favorite rap since I was like to it. So you kind of got over the Lowellane lyricism and you were just like, no, I'm a driller now? No, it wasn't. like that. It was nothing like that. It was just like, that shit just, I don't know. Like, they were doing shit that was happening down in Mobile, but you could watch them do this shit. Like, they on video just doing shit. You know what I'm saying? So, like, that shit was just eye-catching entertainment. Yeah. Chicago had this, like, weird combination of gangster shit and, like,
Starting point is 00:09:54 social media at that time. When you look back on it, like, because realistically, Motherfuckers are not doing a lot of that shit on social media now because they're just smarter and they know that they're going to get caught up. But still, even then, like after AFBG Doug got killed, there was an infamous vlog that showed a bunch of people kind of talking about it way too loosely and kind of acknowledging who did it and shit. And that shit got a long history of since it on themselves. I didn't see that. Oh, it's a whole thing. I didn't see that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Yeah. They did pay the way for, like, long. what the fuck not to do. That's real. That's what the past supposed to do, or supposed to make you know how to not get fucked up
Starting point is 00:10:39 in the future. That's that shit for. A lot of people, like, know that they're fucking up by putting all their crimes on social media. They just also, A, are on drugs, so they're, like, not really thinking about the fact that they're doing something so stupid. And B, they want to blow up as a rapper
Starting point is 00:10:53 so bad that they don't give a fuck. I know people I know people who don't rap and don't give fuck at all like period don't care I mean they'd be having to kiss me and tell me you gotta care because it'd be a lot of time I don't give a fuck
Starting point is 00:11:08 but you gotta care especially in this position you gotta care right so when do you actually start making music in high school um like I started writing shit in 12th grade at like 2019
Starting point is 00:11:23 that's when I first started I didn't go to a studio to like 20, 2021, I'd like, some shit like that. It took a long time. You need to take the shit seriously. I ain't really kept up. Really? So you were just fucking around?
Starting point is 00:11:43 Was there anybody in particular you were listening to by that point? Like when you're in 12th grade that you were listening to, like, oh, this is the person that's really inspiring me to make some shit. Not for real. I was listening to everybody. Like, anything I was dropping out. Because, you know, in high school, that's when you really just, find either who you is or like,
Starting point is 00:12:06 you feel in all your thoughts and shit. So I was just trying to listen to everybody. Right. Everybody. It's really cool. When I say Alabama in terms of hip-hop or who comes to mind in terms of, like, the biggest legends from there?
Starting point is 00:12:19 Because Gucci got to be first on the list. Yeah. Even though a lot of people want to put them in the Atlanta box. In the Atlanta group, nah, he found out. Reality is, yeah. But Gucci. But I don't count my bill. I don't want to, like, big it.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I think Mobile might be the, Mobile the biggest rap city in Alabama. I don't think nobody big any of Mobile, because we got Rollo, Cap, blue, um, yeah, no Cap,
Starting point is 00:12:52 got to be, like, the biggest one doing it right now, at least. But you can't kind of, you know, blue, though. Yeah. You know, blue big. Like, he's so big, it'd be like,
Starting point is 00:13:05 I'd be thinking about Mobile rappers and won't think about him. Right. Bradmore Glover. Because he's got a different style, you know. But no cap on different. Yeah. You feel like no...
Starting point is 00:13:14 Who's the biggest artist with, like, the young people, though, there these days? In Mobile. Yeah. Other than me. Right. Under me. You got, like... There's a lot of rap people that don't know, like, shine, flip.
Starting point is 00:13:29 You feel, me? And shit like that. But the biggest, right now, Mobile. I think... I don't want to just go on a limb and say. me, but I feel like this is he the cap a lot of. Yo, I feel like it must have been tough for people in Alabama.
Starting point is 00:13:43 See Cap going through it with a young boy. We never got like a resolution on anything about that, huh? They just went at it and then we never heard anything else. Oh, no, no. You feel? Got in their bed. They got kind of intense there for a minute. Okay, so you graduate, and then what do you start doing after high school?
Starting point is 00:14:05 A lot of shit. Just a lot of shit. Too much shit. Too much. Shit that I didn't even have to do. In the screeks? Basically. Basically.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Just regular shit. It wasn't nothing. None too much. Right. None that nobody wanted it. And did you ever, you end up getting caught up by the law during that time period or no?
Starting point is 00:14:33 No. Like, they, I didn't start fucking me until I started rapping. Really? Yeah, I ain't go to, I ain't, I ain't, I don't. my first time with Jill it was like
Starting point is 00:14:42 the same lot I shot EST flow Really? Yeah, one of my videos that just hit the 100K They were just on some bullshit And they just pulled you over And what they gave you for?
Starting point is 00:14:54 No, they didn't pull me over I was just walking Downtown It was some bullshit They knew who you were Yeah, yeah They called me LaRae Really?
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yeah, yeah And So basically when you were a less well-known criminal they didn't care as much but then once you are a more well-known rapper that did it they'd be talking about all my little brothers and shit who rap they're still in a dick for no reason
Starting point is 00:15:26 really interesting it's just how they is with the whole soft one right so have you had a lot of beef in your city since like real early on I've seen a lot of interesting stuff I don't really know I didn't even really like try to fully understand it but I was like oh okay there's real shit going on out there?
Starting point is 00:15:45 Nah, it ain't no beef. It'd be a lot of people don't like me if they wish they could do the shit I do. There'd be some bitches. So the beef that you're in came from you becoming successful, it wasn't like, oh, a lot of rappers these days, it's like, I have beef, and that's why I'm a rapper is because I want to diss my ops on a big stage. I don't diss people. I don't even, I ain't, I don't need beef.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I don't consider shit. No beef. I don't hear you saying a ton of names, but I hear you. saying like specific things like you're talking about like smoking somebody's sister or some shit and i'm just like i mean there's somebody out there yeah you see you're wrap about seeing people's sisters dying a lot i'm like damn there must be somebody somebody's getting their feelings hurt by that bar no she's die because ain't nobody do nothing nobody's sister oh okay i'll just joking. Right. So if you have a problem with somebody, you're not going to put the name in a song.
Starting point is 00:16:39 But will you wrap around it? You kind of like talk about them without saying their name? I said a shit on my story. I was like, it's certain shit that I say that people most definitely know who I'm talking about. Right. It ain't like, like at home, they know exactly what the fuck I'm talking about. Don't know about it here shit. It'd be like, damn, they know what the fuck I'm talking about. Everybody knows what I'm talking about. Yeah, because it's different when your ops aren't famous. Because then if you say their name, you're just kind of blowing them up for no reason, right? Yeah, and then it's weird. Maybe they are famous, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Man, it's weird. Hell, man, I ain't got to ask. But it's weird, though. People in Mobile will, like, try to make it a problem with you. Just so, like, when you go live, they can ask the joy in your life and talk shit. You feel? Or they'll text you, tag you on their store. so you can be posted and say, fuck, don't be on that.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Sis, I mean, dig that ass shit. You need to be weird. Damn. So the clout thirst is that serious. I'm my mama that shit, so. Because I see it mostly from the perspective of a place like L.A. where there's already, like, a lot of famous people, a lot of big rappers or whatever. So it's like you see people being thirsty as fuck for attention,
Starting point is 00:17:53 but there is a lot of shit going on. It's funny to hear about it from that perspective of, like, people going after this, like, crumb of attention on Instagram Live. But it's like, it's like, in my business. It's so, it's not easy to do what the fuck I did. To make it up out of a small town, your music got to be real good, you got to be connected, you got to like have a, something really needs to be working to blow up out of a small town.
Starting point is 00:18:17 So it's like any inch they can get, they're going to try to take them off. Real shit. Like, everybody's trying to make it out. I don't blame trying to make it out. That's just a weird way to do it. Right. Okay, so you,
Starting point is 00:18:33 Start making music, when does it start to actually catch on or when you start putting out videos and people start fucking with it? I didn't put out the video until May last year. Uh-huh. So it's been about a year? Almost a year?
Starting point is 00:18:46 Soon May. You put out video and then the shit just started working right away? That shit was crazy. Like, I, everybody always used to say, push some shit out, push shit out, push shit out, push shit out. But no, it was TikTok, though. It was TikTok, I'm sure, I'm sure. I posted a video on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I should got, like, million views. Right. Then, um, Black Nore. hit me up and then I signed enough for like a project and then did that shit and how that guy in terms of how they went about blowing you up
Starting point is 00:19:17 uh it wasn't really nothing it was just me doing doing the regular shit I did like I dropped song called murder flow then I dropped EAST I think EST flow after that EST flow what the fuck out though but it was stuck it was on like it was at like
Starting point is 00:19:33 40K for like two months then after that that hole just went up a hundred care 15 days so you feel comfortable taking somebody's flow
Starting point is 00:19:45 and just kind of fucking with it on song it wasn't any like it was like it was like I don't know I just phone bro shit so it was like
Starting point is 00:19:54 nah you try to make something like that yeah I mean if any thinking like like I heard his voice in the head in my head
Starting point is 00:20:03 when I was saying the word so like I got this shit I mean you acknowledging it is basically like that's just you paying respect, right? Because everybody's just jacking a flow and not saying anything.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Yeah, a lot of people do that shit. All day. Oh, God. Right. Everybody be asked for a two. I ain't doing a two. Let's burn hop on at her. That's all the way.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Oh, really? Did he reach out of though? No. Like, um, I think his DJ follow me. Okay. I'm going to send it to him. Let me see what he says.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I'm going to wait until after the interview, though. But, okay, so that shit all starts kind of blowing up and everything. So how does your life change after getting that much attention for rapping all of a sudden? It was just like, I went from never leaving Mobile to never in Mobile again. Really? Like, since I've been big, I've only been back to Mobile, like, full time. It's just like more time on the road doing shit. doing shit doing shit.
Starting point is 00:21:06 What are you doing for the most part? I've been out of the studio like ever for the past, what, eight, nine days. I've been in the studio to the hours a day. Working on music all the time. You'd be doing shows and shit too? I got a show on March 16th in Austin, Texas. I think it's South by Southwest.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Oh, yeah, yeah. South by South West. That shit's a pretty big deal, honestly, when it's going down. It's kind of crazy because there's like a million. fucking shows in the course of like a week but I don't know it's like it's definitely where there's a ton of people who like you could definitely get a lot of new fans
Starting point is 00:21:43 from going in that environment one of my little brothers he performed two BBG step up he both perform the side day I perform right right right right so okay how long was your music cracking before Gucci tapped in? about eight months
Starting point is 00:22:02 I think seven months some shit like that and what he said he said he's a but he was trying to find me for like five months. He was trying to find me for a long time. But I always do bullshit on Instagram and get deleted. Oh, really? Yeah. I stay in my Instagram deleted.
Starting point is 00:22:17 For what? Dis in the Ops? No, sometimes. But it just be doing stupid shit. All the crazy most gangster-ass rappers that I know cannot keep it in the Instagram. Yeah, that's like my third Instagram. Like, that's why the fucking rappers in the Bronx and should have invented their own language to diss their own.
Starting point is 00:22:36 enemies. It's like nobody else can read it. They got a million emojis in there and shit. They be talking crazy. The boy, we're talking crazy. Right. Damn, so he was trying to get in touch with you. All right. So then once he hits you up, what's the conversation like or how you go about tapping in with him? Let me see. We talked on the phone. I was in Mobile when he called my mel. I was sleep at my home by Davehouse. And he woke me up like, Gouch on the fall, trying to talk to you. So I just turned around. Like, what's the fuck in my face? Then he'd do it again.
Starting point is 00:23:06 and he like your manager on the fall he's like Gucci trying to call you so shit we get on the phone da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da then I fly to New York that same day when you talk to him talk to him talk to him talk
Starting point is 00:23:18 then we did it right so then you signed the deal and I don't know what was your perspective like what kind of stuff did he have to say to make you be interested in signing it was just like like even though everybody said he's from
Starting point is 00:23:36 Atlanta he's from Alabama you feel So he was just, we were just relating on a lot of shit, talking about a lot of shit I was telling him shit. He was telling me the right shit from the shit I was telling him, and shit like that. Right. So you felt like you had a connection right away because you're both from Alabama?
Starting point is 00:23:53 From Alabama and both was in the streets long enough to know. You feel, me, like, what you really want on the life. Because the streets ain't never just, you're not supposed to be like, I'm being the streets all my life. You're supposed to be in the street to find out how to not. how to not be in the streets no more ever again. Right. So that's just mostly telling me shit like that.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Yeah, Gucci'd been rich for like, I don't know, damn, damn it was 20 years. I'm 21. Right. A lot of that shit is a fucking distant memory to him, really. But also, like, he had, like, easily 10 years in his career where he was whaling out, getting fucked up, doing crazy-ass shit that he shouldn't have been doing. And then he's had this other part of his career where he's just been, like, living a great life and really enjoying his success.
Starting point is 00:24:37 you know that's the shit the nigger look at come from like that to be up there it's different it really make you like change how you look on like like damn i can really be here one day right so you did the video together right around then or you did that later we did that I made that song like two days after that then he he pulled up to the studio and did that her right there and we shot the video getting into the club right how was the club I don't like people clothes
Starting point is 00:25:16 I people look cool it's just like oh my dude you've been going to the club for like you know his whole life pretty much like that's just such a more normal thing I think especially like now
Starting point is 00:25:26 the younger generation they feel a little different about being out in public and everything whereas like coming from where he's coming from you had to be in the club because otherwise
Starting point is 00:25:34 how the fuck ain't going to find out about your records they didn't have the internet like that yeah like they really used to have to be like in your face with shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And I'm like, I do pick your phone up you and everybody's face. Right. Yeah, definitely. So, okay, do, are you worried at all about the alleged 1017 curse? Oh, I'd be ham by this. I don't about that. You don't buy it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:59 I mean, every person individually, like, when you look at everybody who's on 1017, they ended up getting locked up or whatever, it's like, it's not like any of that shit had anything to do with Gucci. I'm sure Gucci would have loved to be. there to tell Poo Shasty not to do whatever the fuck he got caught up doing, et cetera, you know? It's like, if anything, Gucci's probably in their corner trying to, he just signs the type of artist that get into trouble realistically.
Starting point is 00:26:23 He's going to be in your corner, though. Yeah, no matter what you do, like, I go, you talk to him, no matter what you do, he's riding with you. He just wants you to do the right things on him, have to ride behind the wrong thing. Right. He's going to keep it all the way real with you. Like, he needs to shoot-cunner or nothing.
Starting point is 00:26:38 He's going to tell you exactly how you need to hear it. Right. Right. So are you still getting fucked up? Like, I know this, you, you had some videos where you were popping pills and shit previously and everything. Is that still a part of your life? No, I live. I'll be, I'll be on some soul of shit, though. Yeah, you left it behind, you're over it? Yeah, I don't take no drug. Okay. You got a big old smile.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I don't take no drug. Well, are you trying to slow down on it? Is that what you're saying? Or you're trying to leave it in the past? It's like, I ain't going to cap, like, immobile. It'd be a lot of kids listening to me to, like, churn, like, elementary school kids text me on Instagram and shit like that. You feel it? So I'd be like, damn.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I keep talking about eight perks a day, 10 perks a day. I just list eight y'all, like, damn, I can't wait to turn 14 to take my first perk. Yeah. You feel it, and shit like that, be the only thing of mine. Now, I got a little, my little brother's, like, 12, 12 or 13, my other cousin, 15. and I only want them thinking like this is what I supposed to do too.
Starting point is 00:27:45 My big brother, my big cousin got rich and he do shit like this. Why the fuck I can't? Yeah. So I just I live a sober life now. Everybody needs to live a sober life. I like that.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Even though I think you're full of shit. I like it. What's 26K mean? That's just, that's the block. 26 Klan. but that case down for killer Oh, okay It's a clan
Starting point is 00:28:13 So that's actually where you're from Okay, that's dope What is the, when you throw up the four fingers What's that mean? That's the South For the South in general? Like the South in Mobile Oh, okay
Starting point is 00:28:27 South Mobile Interesting You still feel like You want to remain in touch with Mobile Or is there a part of you that's ready To just get the fuck out of there and just say goodbye. I mean, that's why all my people are, like, family and friends and all that,
Starting point is 00:28:43 so I can't never just say, I wouldn't never say fuck Mobile because Mobile made me who I am. I got to stay connected to Mobile. That's the only way I can stay who I am. You have to be out there lost, like, not from California and shit. Nothing wrong with that, though. Not wrong with that. Right, but, you know. I'm an Alabama, brother.
Starting point is 00:28:59 You feel, me? So you're, like, you got to stick with your roots. Yeah, if you're from Alabama and you just move out to Los Angeles and act like you're not from Alabama, Shit, like, that'd be weird. Like, we got our own lingo and all type of shit. So, don't do that. We really, like, I was like, we want the best cities in the world. Like, in real life, like, if you just look at, like, our style and, like, it's someone
Starting point is 00:29:25 overlooked talent and all type of shit. We really want the best cities in the world. How racist does it feel? What? Alabama. Like, it ain't as bad as what people, like, Mobile ain't. I'm not speaking for everyone else. But my bill is not as red.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Like, people just look. It ain't like they just off the wall, talking shit, saying this. They don't do that shit. They just look. Really? Everybody just look. You never had a white person say some racist shit to you in your life? Hell, no.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Fuck, no. Never. I'm mostly just asking because we were. I call duty and shit. Call you what? I don't call duty. Oh, I don't know. I didn't know face-to-face.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Yeah, I think everybody was doing. of that fucking black. That's interesting. Yeah, we were just having that, like, kind of a conversation about, I don't know, what was it? The statement that we were discussing was, like, the average white person has negative opinions of black people. Somebody said that on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I was arguing it saying, I think you are fucking, you're pulling, like, this is how the media makes you feel. I don't think in real life, have you heard, like, even close to, like, 10% of the white people you met in your life say bad things about black people? I don't think so. It just, all the time, all the shit, they get real. recorded is when they say the bad shit. Nobody recorded nobody saying good morning.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yeah. The media makes you think that the world is much more racist than it used to be when I think in reality the world is a lot less racist than it used to be. We're just so much more connected that it's very easy to see all these examples of racism, you know? Yeah, real shit. It's way better
Starting point is 00:30:57 than what. For sure. So who have you worked with or who you consider like your people that you make music with or whatever? Yeahvo. Capp. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:15 All my brothers who were up with the city. Yeah, we got to mention Yevo as well, huh? Yeah, yeah. You got to mention it. What? Big fizzled, too, right? Big fizzle.
Starting point is 00:31:25 See, I'd be high. I ain't high, right? I ain't high no more. I'm just having no more, but I be high. But hey, big fielder. Say it. I just made a song with Crudder. I got to make some of Canada.
Starting point is 00:31:37 But, um, I don't know. I can't remember right now. It ain't a lot of that, because I don't really like people. But the ones I do feel with, no who I feel like me. Yeah, you got, if you mention Alabama, you got to mention you able to. I've seen a video, there's basically somebody saying that you have a reputation as a real demon. Everybody would be thinking I'm crazy or something. You do kind of have the look sometimes, the eyes and the silver teeth.
Starting point is 00:32:03 You know, they could kind of do it to some people, I guess. No, I don't even be doing what the fuck they'd be talking about. Somebody told me I'm a clone. I'm possessed. All the type of shit. Well, Gucci was originally a clone. They said he was a clone. So it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:32:17 His artist has got to be clones, too. Hey, man. Gucci is Gucci. Right. But you know what is weird is that somebody was telling me that the reason why the clone shit started is because when people come out of jail or prison after mad years, the food is so fucked up that you come out looking all puffy and shit. And like a lot of people look different than they normally look.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And when I think of it, about it there are a lot of people that I've seen in my life when they get out of prison that to me they just look fucking weird and then maybe I forget about it a couple days later but I feel like especially Gucci he lost mad weight in there so he came out looking the hell of looking hell of different he's working he said he worked the fuck out of fuck out of work that work that yeah yeah I just seen my boy grito get out of prison and he's just looking swole as fuck I'm like I hope he keeps working out. You got to get them in the gym. All right, so, but how do you feel about people having that opinion or that you're having that reputation? People think you're a fucking lunatic. I don't want to give a fuck. Because anybody from playing with a crazy person.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Anybody going to play with me if I didn't look crazy anyway. I wouldn't be worried about it. There's nobody from playing with no crazy person. Right. Everybody feels like they're crazy. That's cool. I mean, I'm crazy. What the fuck they be saying?
Starting point is 00:33:38 I don't know. I feel it. What's a binary trigger? It's something that you get. What the fuck? I don't know. I don't be knowing shit by no guns and shit like that. So you made it the chorus of the song,
Starting point is 00:34:02 or the name of the song? Yeah, I don't know what. You just didn't bother really looking to it too much. Respect that. Okay. So what's your plans for the future in terms of releasing new music or whatever? What's the goal here? I posted drop another video like Friday or Saturday
Starting point is 00:34:20 I got my first tape coming out and what the fuck today? In like a week or two. In like two weeks. So that's the first official tape? A 10.7.3. Fire. That bitch will be too hard.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I got like three videos there I dropped first off. Okay. That's what I said. Is your real name Ryan? Fuck, no. So where'd the Rye come from? My dad named Rari, real dad,
Starting point is 00:34:50 the name Rai, so I'm a little Rai. Okay. I just took the L LL. and I killed up in my own Lerah. I love him. He cool. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:58 What do you want to accomplish in this game before you're out? For my, for real, I want to be able to put a lot more people in a position or in a better position than I am, for real.
Starting point is 00:35:16 I just want to make sure all my people straight. Get in here by the ridge. I need to be able to call my brother asking him for fifth and tell him. I'm going to say him a hundred back. You feel? That's all I'm looking for.
Starting point is 00:35:27 That's what I'm just love. Well, yeah, fuck with the music. And I definitely think you've got big things to come. So I appreciate you coming on, man. I appreciate it. Yeah. Shout a little rye. No Jumper.
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