No Jumper - Lil CC on Producing for Drake, Modeling, Dating Lil Bibby & More

Episode Date: March 3, 2023

Lil CC talks about her rise as a producer and model, getting major placements and more! ----- 00:00 Intro 0:05 CC This is her first real interview and calls herself a model/music producer 4:00 CC Making beats, being very introverted in high school and professionally modeling at 18 9:20 CC speaks on getting a Drake placement, being passionate about music at a young age and not knowing she was pretty for a long time 12:00 CC on getting kicked out of high school for fighting a guy for b*****ng her little brother on Snapchat 14:30 CC gives her take on modeling culture 15:20 Adam asks CC if she was the first beautiful person in her family 16:10 CC talks not going out often and prefers environments where she can network 17:30 CC on artists only approaching her appropriately and strictly for business 18:30 CC breaks down how she linked up with Drake, asking Drake to say her producer tag and meeting him at a Grammys after-party 24:30 CC says that Drake is really an owl and Drake sending her a video of him making "Money In The Grave" to her beat 27:00 CC on why she went vegan, says she could be vegan for the rest of her life, but would eat a steak for a million dollars 29:45 CC speaks on rumors of her being in a love triangle with Chris Brown and Soulja Boy and how the rumors affected her mental health 31:50 CC talks about her relationship with Lil Bibby 34:00 CC on opening her own smoke shop 36:20 CC on where her mind was at after getting the Drake placement and if she wanted to double down on her producing career at that point 38:45 CC on the misrepresentation of women in the producer industry 41:00 Adam asks CC if she's currently in a relationship with Jaylen Brown and wants to be very low-key about her current relationship 43:20 CC on if there's a code of conduct you if have to uphold as a model ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper. Coolest podcasts in the world. And I'm not sure. Are we going by Lil Cici? Cici or a little Cici, either one. Or your full Instagram? Oh, Sydney. Sydney, Christine?

Yeah. Okay. So all of those are acceptable? All those are acceptable. Okay. And this is your first ever interview. Yes. In person, talking, yeah.

Okay. So, I mean, you tell me, like, if you meet a guy in the club, what do you describe? Like, if he says, what do you do? What do I do? Yeah, what do you say? I'm a model slash music producer. Okay, but model first? Yeah.

Or no, both. They're both equally. I do them equally. Okay. Interesting. And so what do you looking to get out of this interview? Like, is this a part of a particular rollout? Or like, what makes you want to do this now?

Yeah, I have a lot of music dropping. So not my music. I don't rap or anything. But, like, you know, I make beats. So a lot of artists that I work with are dropping. So, yeah. Interesting. Okay.

So, campaigns and stuff coming out. What's coming out? Campaigns, like modeling stuff. Oh, really? Okay, so you're dropping all this stuff coming up soon. All right. So let's start at the beginning though. Where are you from?

I'm from Los Angeles, California. More specifically, Englewood, Plyadale Ray area. Okay. And so what was your upbringing like? My upbringing, I was mainly raised with my mom up until I was like 15. And then after that, kind of like lived by myself at my grandma's house. she moved up north to help my brother take care of his baby while he was in college. So I was kind of like by myself most of the time since I was like 14, 15.

You live in a crazy part of Englewood or what? Kind of. Well, it used to be. It's kind of like gentrified now, like Manchester and Prairie. Okay. Like right where the, um. The forum? Sofi.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We were just talking about that. So Englewood's on the up and up.

Everything's getting better over there. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Back then it was like a little bit more crazier. but now it's not like that. So you weren't seeing crazy in high school growing up? Oh, yeah. Well, kind of.

The high school I went to was in Plydele, right? But it was so small, I didn't have any friends there. So my friends were in like Englewood and stuff. So yeah, like after school, but in school, no. I was in private school my whole life. You were? Yeah. Okay, interesting.

So that was like, it was very proper and everything? No, it was like an all-black private school. Not all-black, but majority all-black. private school. What was life like for like the two white kids? Huh? Was there like two white kids? Yeah, literally two white kids. What was life like for them? I'm just trying to figure that out. Um, they liked it. They really liked it. One of them actually got a scholarship to UCLA for baseball. So he's living life now. Wow, amazing. Yeah. So wait, okay. So what did your parents do? Like, uh, my parents, so my mom actually is she had a very hard life coming up. She didn't do much, but now she's like

a speech therapist. My dad. dad doesn't do nothing either. I actually don't know my dad. That was another part of my upbringing. I don't know him like that. But I know his mom, which is weird. And she's very wealthy, very, very wealthy. So that's why I was able to go to private school my whole life and live in Pliadale sometimes. But you never met your dad, but you met his mom. I met him, but not like that. Yeah, I lived with his mom, but I don't know him like that. I probably see him like once every other year. So, but he would be there for like 10, 15 minutes, but like, I don't know him like that. And what?

He just got a cold heart? He don't give a... He don't... He don't... Oh, drop my bag. No, he don't care. Not. Really?

Wow, that's interesting. No, he doesn't. Damn. But I'm just interested what the private schools are like out here, too, because I'm putting my kids at private schools. Oh, nice.

Where? I don't know. I'm definitely not sitting on here. Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry. My kid's only two anyway. So it's like, this is like way in the future. Yeah. I love it.

I love growing up out here. It was really fun. Yeah, private schools are good. I feel like I'm well-rounded. I know a lot of things. I feel like they help me mature faster in a way. In a good way, like in a way where I know a lot about the world and other people and stuff. Right, definitely.

So what, like, when did you do after high school? Or, like, what kind of kid were you in high school? In high school, I was very quiet. Actually, that's where I started my music career. I would make beats, like, by myself at lunch. I was very, very quiet. Now I'm like a lot more outgoing, but I didn't have any friends. I was just sitting by myself.

Why? Why do you think that was? Why were you so like to yourself? I'm not even going to lie. I just thought I was better than them or like I knew more than them. Like it wasn't on no like. And they would, but they will bully me because I guess that was the energy I gave off. Rightfully so.

But like I didn't do anything to anybody. Like I just didn't like to talk to them like that. They kind of was just, I don't know. I just like to be in my own. world. Wow. Were you like deep in the internet already at that age? And I'm a cancer. I'm like to myself. Oh really? Okay. Deep in the internet? Kind of a little bit. Yeah. I'm just imagining you being on like Tumblr every day or something and being like fuck these kids in school. I'm on Tumblr. No, no, no. Yeah, I was on Instagram. My pictures were definitely on Tumblr, but I didn't have a

Tumblr personally, but my pictures would go viral. Okay. So you were doing the model thing from an early age? Like when did you start that? I didn't start professionally modeling until I was. I was like, like 18, so after high school. But I would take a lot of like Instagram pictures and stuff like while I was in high school. Okay. And people are just like reposting them all over the internet and not knowing that you're in high school. Yeah, I always had like a decent amount of followers since high school. Really interesting.

So, but you weren't like dating anybody during that time? I guess I could, I can understand now why you were like thought you were kind of better than all the kids at school because you already have this like online persona going on. Yeah. Yeah, not necessarily better, but like I just felt like they couldn't relate to me. I didn't mean to say better. Right. Yeah, just not relatable.

Like, you know, because they looked at me as so like, oh, you're just whatever, whatever. And I'm like, okay, why I must be that thing, you know? Like, it wasn't necessarily that. Like, I just felt like they just didn't understand what it was like for me to have, like, a lot of attention at such a young age and, like, not have anybody else that's kind of like that around me. But were the kids in school, were they, like, kind of oblivious to the fact that you were popping online, or were they aware of it? Oh, they knew. They knew. Yeah, they knew. And this was just something for them to talk shit about or what? Yeah. Like, they just would kind of just be like, oh, you're just that girl that just post pictures all the time and you don't care about anything but that. And it's like, you guys just don't know what I care about, you know? So, like, they just didn't get it. Welcome to 2023. That's all anybody cares about. Yeah, exactly. And it's like, you can make money now. Back then you couldn't make any money on it. So it's like, okay, they just.

didn't know. It's easy to forget, like, how being an Instagram model or, like, being popping as a social media influencer is kind of a new concept that people weren't really even tapped into a few years ago. Yeah, I never really wanted to be, like, the influencer vibe. I really wanted to be, like, supermodel, because I'm very tall, like, slam and stuff. I'm 5'10. Okay. So, like, I want to get, like, wanted to get at the time, like, into, like, you know, Nike campaigns and beauty campaigns. And that's, like, what I'm doing now.

Okay. So that was like my goal. So when did you first get contacted about the modeling thing, though? Actually, I had a manager, Jacob, York. He's outside. And he reached out to me, like, why don't you model, like, professionally? Like, I see you just take pictures on Instagram, but, like, you should actually model. And I was like, you know what?

I do want to model. But I just was so, like, unsure of how. And then I went to the agency. I took digital pictures, and I got signed. And immediately, I was being booked for everything. thing. Really? Yeah. Mm-hmm. So just all of a sudden you're, what, making a bunch of money and like just having super busy days of doing all this crazy-ass shit? It must have been pretty wild. It was very busy days. Yeah. And the modeling agency you're with now, Willamina. Willamina. It's like

the most famous agency. I should know how to say this. Yeah, it is pretty famous. But that's like the, that's the first one you signed to or did you eventually end up there? I'm only with Willamina. Yeah, only ever been with Willamina. And what kind of stuff were they booking you for at first? All types of like Sephora campaigns like lifestyle like Nike I'm vegan

so a lot of like the brands I wanted to work for I wanted it to be mainly vegan if I could so I've turned down jobs like ugs like I would not shoot for stuff like that so it came to a point where I was literally able to like create my own

career and pick the jobs that I wanted to shoot for so yeah I loved it but mainly like beauty stuff like makeup cosmetics. Damn. So does it just feel like you had finally made it or like your life had just changed overnight? No, I actually was never satisfied. Like I always wanted more to be bigger.

And that's kind of why I don't know. Like, I just didn't do any interviews at that time. Like, just because I just felt like I'm not where I want to be. Who wants to interview me? Like, no one wants to interview me. Like, that's just the mentality I had. Like, I need to get better. And now I'm not that hard on myself, like, the way I was.

Right, but it's interesting because people tend to blow themselves out so fast these days. So what age were you when you got this Drake production placement? I was 22, something like that. And so I guess let's just like go into how this came about. When did you start producing music? I was 17 in high school. I was making beats and I always went to a musical-based school. All the private schools I went to was all about music.

Like they really emphasized music class. Like every year you had to do some type of musical performance in front of the whole school, everyone. So whether you sing, play an instrument, whatever, like you had to do something like that. So that's kind of where my history of music or me learning how to make music came about was from, you know, going to the private school and my ear for sound and like, you know, different pitches or whatever. learning how to work with singers or different artists. Because I was always on the instrument side of music. Never really like singing or anything like that. So yeah.

So that's when it came about. I started actually really getting good at it when I was like 17 or 18. And your next question is how everything. Well, I just also want to say it's kind of interesting because it's like being a model is all about how you look. And being a producer is almost zero percent how you look. as like the marketing at a certain stage. So it's interesting that you're like, we're drawn to these two different things.

One that's all about your appearance and one that's kind of completely like you alone in your room. Yeah. Well, what's crazy about that? I've always been into music before I even thought I was pretty. Like I didn't find out I was pretty till like later on in high school. I kind of was just more of a tombo. I played a lot of sports.

So I was kind of just like an athletic kid. Like I didn't really like care. But I was cute. But like when I was. I started to, you know, take Instagram more serious, my followers would just shoot up. And I'm like, oh, I'm pretty. Like, I'm really pretty. Like, let me start posting more, you know? I've no girls like that in my life who like they, being pretty, like a big part of it is trying to look pretty. Because if you aren't putting makeup on or wearing a nice outfit or doing

your hair ride or whatever, it's a good chance that people are not going to look at you like that, you know? Like, you kind of have to embrace it. I just didn't care at that time. And then I started caring when I realized, oh, this can turn in this. something like someone could discover me or someone could see me or a job you know like different brands or whatever so I just always want to take the complete advantage of any opportunity that I do have that's like that and um yeah just make the most out of it so so did you go to college or you just go straight into the modeling thing and I never finished high school really what did you get out for um fighting yeah I was fighting at a private school very bad idea wow what happened were you

fighting over? Just this kid was like bullying my brother and the school was already tired of me for like not obeying the uniform policy like I would wear what I wanted like I would just walk out of class and leave class like I was not like a private school type student like if I was at a public school I'd have probably thrived but private school their rules are very strict and I just didn't follow that so that fight was just their last time. You're fighting a dude? Yeah dude.

Why he was just talking shit or what? I think my little brother. Really? Yeah, on Snapchat. How many brothers and sisters you have? I have two brothers. And my older brother's actually why I care about music. That was another thing.

Really? Wait, he was bullying him on Snapchat. So this is real? This really is how it goes down? Yeah. We hear about this on the news and shit. No, yeah, he was bullying on Snapchat, like, recording him, like, zoomed in on him. And I was just like, someone in my class the next day had told me.

And they was like, oh, he was making fun of your brother on Snapchat. And my brother's not a social media. person and I am so I feel like they were doing that because it's my little brother so I was just like oh I have to like say something and like he did not care about anything I was saying right so I got kind of aggressive wow you beat his ass yeah really yeah he didn't get any hits in on you very obsessing no his parents was very upset so yeah if I got beat up by a girl by a model it was like I caught him off guard type like you know and I was an athletic girl like I was an athletic girl like I was an athlete.

So like... You sucker punched him? Yeah. Wow. From the back, he was turned that way. He didn't even know. That's a good move. He didn't see me.

So, because he turned around, like, trying to act like it was funny. It was not funny. Like, this is my little brother. And he doesn't even do social media. I felt he was trying to attack me in a way, like me and my little brother. And I did not like that. Like, come straight to me, you know? Like, I don't know.

That's just how I thought. You got a stand in your shit. How'd your parents feel when you got kicked out, though? Um, they didn't really, they were not that upset. No, it was mainly my mom and my grandma. They already knew I was over school, and they knew since I was 18, I guess you have to like enroll yourself into school. I wasn't doing that.

Right. I was not re-enrolling into school. And you already knew the modeling thing was going to happen at this point? Yeah. Yeah. Even though like they didn't believe in me when it came to what I wanted to do, like they wanted to go to school and do this and that and get a job that you needed some type of schooling for. but that was never anything I wanted to do.

Right. So when you get into the modeling world, what's it like? Like, what's the culture of that shit like? Because I've known some girls who are models throughout the years, and they definitely are telling me about crazy-ass shit, about having to starve themselves and all kinds of shit. I never had that experience. Maybe that's more New York, I would feel like,

because it's like high-fashioned modeling. Yeah, I think the high-fashioned shit is when they have to be super skinny. Yeah, I've never got into high-fashioned modeling. I was more into beauty. it's literally just your face. So I just, they've never weighed me. Like,

they'll take your measurements just for like the brand can make sure that they have your correct sizing. But like, other than that, no, like I've never had like a problem with them. I have a side question.

Are you the first beautiful person in your family? Or is it like, do you come from a long line of attractive people? Because you're talking like, you just figured it out one day. Like, oh, I could be hot. No, like, okay, My mom is very beautiful.

Everyone in my family is mixed, so everyone in my family is gorgeous. I just think that they are not, like, into their looks the way I was. My mom went to cosmetology school, so she was at some point. But, again, she had, like, a hard life. So, like, she just stopped caring about all that stuff. But I'm like, Mom, I'm going to do that, okay? Like, everything that you didn't want to do, I'm going to do. So, yeah, me and her butted heads a lot because of that.

Because she was just like, but I've tried it before. You could not be successful, like this and that. I'm like, oh, I'm going to be successful. Like, I'm going to do something with it, you know? So, okay, you're going hard with the modeling shit. Does that start opening a lot of doors for you socially? Like, all of a sudden, you're just, like, at the right parties and clubs. Like, how does your life change in that regard?

Oh, I don't go partying, clubbing and anything like that. But it's crazy. The times I do go partying or clubbing is when my life changes, like, money in the grave. That's another story. Right. We've got to get to that sort of later. It's because of going out. But like I pick and choose when I go out.

Like I don't just go out just to be seen or to have fun. It's not fun to me. I want to network. Like that's when I get to know people and meet people and, you know, create relationships that I could use later on in life. Like that's how I, you know, move. I don't really just go to, I don't like getting drunk and like all that. Right.

No, I mean, I'm so over the drinking thing at this point. But it's so true because I'm on the level like with being a dad and stuff where I'm never going out of this. point but I was just in Vegas for like five days for like the the porn convention and everything and you know I'm meeting Ray J well I already met Ray J actually but I'm like you know about to get the interview with Ray J I'm like meeting just like nonstop different people and everything and it's just like oh right like being out in public is so important but it's also just so time consuming and just hard for me to fit into my fucking lifestyle you know yeah it is pretty hard it is hard yeah but okay

so in in regards to like the whole networking side of things though like I feel like at some point in all this you must have like a million dudes DM in you and that's got to be like a whole facet of this. Actually, you know it's crazy like yeah, of course because like I'm going to get some that do but if it is an artist, it's a hundred percent work. Like I artists do not approach me in that way. And I don't know why. I don't care about why I like that because I get to work with more people.

But they don't even if I go and work with them, let's say I have a session with them in person. don't try me like they don't that's so interesting because that's like the number one complaint from girls in the industry is that they'll try to meet up with somebody to work on music or do a photo shoot or whatever and then they figure out that the guy just wants to do no yeah no like they just let me go on about my day goodbye hope you have a good night like no right and I love it I like that because I could get a lot of work done that way definitely okay so the Drake thing you met him when did you first meet him. So, so I played basketball, right? So he really was a fan of one of, or not a fan, supported one of my teammates at the time. And this is when you're in high school? Yeah, in high school. So he was a fan of

women's basketball, high school basketball. I was her teammate. So he followed me because of her. And I was like, oh shit, bitch, you got Drake to follow me. Like, what's the hell? Like, that's so crazy. So he followed me. And I just, I lost it. I'm like, I have to meet Drake. Like, I love you. I love Drake. I've always loved Drake, still love Drake. So basically, yeah, he followed me. Maybe a year later is when I built up the confidence to, like, message him on, like, some working stuff, because I was 18 when I messaged him. And I DM'd him like, hey, I make beats. Like, can I send you some beats? Like, no, no, no. I just wanted him to say my tag. I'm like, you don't have, it just seems so not realistic for him to get on one of my beats. I was like,

can you just say my tag for me? I mean, in the higher. of different things to ask Drake to do. Asking him to listen to your beats, is he gunnew? I don't know. But it's not that big a deal. But then asking him to say your tag is kind of like far up on the total pole because it's kind of like him co-signing your whole existence. If you end up being a serial killer, he's directly looped into that.

Like the TMZ headline is going to be the girl that Drake did the beat tag for is a serial killer, you know? He's got to kind of be aware of that. No, yeah, yeah, of course. but I just didn't think of it like that. I just thought, like, you know, him creating a whole song on one of my beats. Like, that was just so far out of, like, my thought range.

I don't know. Like, but of course it was a goal. I would want that to happen. So he was like, is this really you as your page act? And I'm like, I had to send a video. I sang a video of me asking again. I'm like, yes, me. Like, can I please, you know, send you something?

Because he was like, oh, send me some shit. But yeah, I had to send a video confirming, like, My page is not hacked. It is me. I make beats. So you sent the beats and he, what, didn't respond at that time? No, I sent the beats and they were not good at the time. When I was 18, they were not good.

And he told you that? He didn't respond. So I guess, no, he didn't like them. But, yeah, they were not that great back then. So fast forward. It was crazy. I wasn't even supposed to end up at this party. I was asleep.

And, you know, parties out here end at, like, two. It was like 12 by the time I woke up from a nap. So you just fell asleep on the couch? You just fell asleep on the couch at the party? I went to bed. No, I was going to sleep. I was not planning on going out. My friends, my two friends, shout out Chanel.

She was like, she was like, bitch, come to this party. It's so late. It was at Poppy. Do you know, Poppy the club? Yeah. So I was just like, you know, I'm just waking up. Like, I don't know if I'm a go. She's like, no, you have to come.

Please come. Like, this is the one event. Please come. Like, please. I was like, okay, whatever. So I get up. I get dressed. I hit one of my other friends that is cool with all the security guards because I already knew it was going to be.

Oh, detail. It was an after party for Grammy after party for Drake and Mick Meld is like when they first got cool again. So everyone was there. Like it was packed. Like outside literally was like a sea of people. Right. So I was just like, I already know I'm not going to be able to get in. So I called my friend Kwame.

Shout out Kwame. Kwame Brown? Quami Brown? No. No. Quam the Dawn. You got to be out of the time. There's got to be other ones.

Yeah, so he's cool with all of the security guards. I know if I go with him, he would just be able to get us straight in. So he got us straight in like I thought. And then we go. I meet up with my friends. And again, I'm like not the super social person. So in the back of this club called Poppy, they have like a smaller club where they have like their own bar and like a photo booth. You know what I'm talking about?

I haven't been there. I've heard about the separate bar thing. Yeah, it's like a separate bar and like a separate everything. So I went back there. Like, I'm not really like trying to be, it was packed. It was so many people in there. Right. So, yeah, so I walk in there and my back is to the door.

And I'm standing with my two friends and I hear, C, C, C, C, like behind me. And I'm like, looking at them because I didn't want to just turn around. If it's somebody I don't want to talk to, I don't want to acknowledge that I saw them. Right. So I'm looking at them and I'm like, who's talking to me? Like, who is that calling me? my name, but they're just standing there like, so in shock, just like, just looking like, I'm like, bitch, who the fuck is behind me?

Like, tell me who's behind me? Who is this? He ends up, like, right next to me. And I'm like, right along with them. I'm like, oh, shit, like, what the fuck? And then he was like, Cisi, do you still make beats? First thing he says, like, doesn't even say anything else. Do you still make beats?

I was like, yeah, even though I was just like deep into my modeling career. Because you hadn't even met him in real life. No, I had never met him in real life. So I was like, oh shit. So he skips the introduction and everything? Yeah, I was like, oh, fuck. Like, goddamn, that's crazy. So I was so nervous.

I was, like, shaking damn near. I was like, yeah, I still make beats. I still make beats. And he was like, okay, cool, send me some. Walks off. Wow. That was the whole interaction. I was like, oh, shit.

So then one of my other friends that I was with knows him. And then she was like, girl, you have to send him some stuff. I'll send it for you. Like, I'll give your number to him. Like, whatever, whatever. I'm like, cool, thanks. because I don't know how that was going to happen. It's so interesting.

I feel like Drake saw you and just like felt the energy. She's going to be a star. She's going to be on November one day. I just need to, I need to, I need to, I'm not, you know, I just need to be the guy who kind of helps usher her into the game. Right. No, yeah. And that's exactly what his energy was, like, throughout the whole process. Like, and from the time, what was crazy is right after that, I had to leave to go to London.

I was shooting out there. And while I was shooting out there, normally, because I don't really. have many friends like that besides the girl Chanel that I just said. So you know being in London, I can't really talk to people like that out here because it's a different time zone. So I'm just like... They're asleep when you're awake. Yeah, always shooting by myself, but

Drake is really an owl. Like, he's really an owl. So I got a text and I was just like who's up right now? Like, it's like three, four in the morning. Like, and it was Drake. I was like, oh shit, Drake texted me. Right. And he was in the studio. He was sending me like a video and he was like, he sent me a video. And he was like,

he sent me a video of this song like not of him but it was like just you know like rocking to the beat and yeah and it was like a little bit done and then I was like oh shit like this song and I heard Lil Cc let it slap with the bass I was like oh fuck

oh shit yeah so that was crazy I was in there like in the changing room I was in the dressing room while I was shooting and I was shaking all over again I was like oh shit like my beats that I sent to him me picked that one. Like I sent like 10 beats.

And I just knew he's going to pick that one. I don't know. It is pretty crazy because there's a million, you know, Instagram models, models, whatever, who are out here trying to rap, trying to make music, trying to do all the shit. And like, you know, some of them have varying degrees of success. But for him to just sort of like, you know, see your talent and recognize it like that, that's just dope, you know?

Yeah, it was dope. It was super dope. I was so, like, wow. Like, that's crazy. Like, I had no idea. deal like he took it serious like oh you were serious like you know like i just thought he was just trying to be nice or like you know give me that boost of encouragement like oh i see you you know but no he actually fucked with my beat you know enough to make it a single you know the message

is great things can come from girls high school basketball really well i mean that's how he found out about you at first yeah yeah yeah that is i didn't hear that but wait i thought that's what You said that that's why he followed you on the ground. Oh, that you was just saying. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't been to a game. I don't know. No, that's why he followed me.

Yeah, that's why he followed me. That's the move, though. Move out to Calabasas and just go to all the high school games, apparently. Oh, no, this was not. I didn't go to school in Calabasasas. No, but what's that school, Sierra Canyon or whatever that he's, like, super into? Because my dad told me he went to a Sierra Canyon basketball game because my dad's really into

high school basketball, and he's just like, saw Floyd Mayweather at the basketball game. Yeah, I heard a lot of celebrities are going. My dad's like, he had about 20 necklaces on. What the hell is that about? I'm like, yeah, he's rich, dad. That's so funny. Yeah, anyway.

So, okay, why did you go vegan and at what age? Why did I go vegan? And you have like a, what, a vegan blog? Yeah, we were just talking about this. So basically, I went vegan because Chanel, shut out Chanel again. She wasn't vegan, but she just didn't eat any really meat. She was mainly pescatarian, which is you just eat fish, seafood. And I remember I just ordered, like,

some red meat, whatever I ordered. I was like 18, 19. Yeah, like 18. And she was like, that looks gross. And off rip, I don't know what it was. I was like, you are right. This is gross.

Like, it was so nasty to me. Like, the way she just looked at it, that's all she had to say is that's nasty. Right. And I don't know, like, Chanel was kind of like, Chanel's like six years older than me. So, like, she's kind of like my mom a little bit. She helped me a lot in life.

So anything she said, I was just like, damn like you're right so yeah i went vegan before she did though i transitioned faster than her did you have a hard time with it at all um no because i transitioned like i would cut out things one by one like i cut out red meat first and then i cut out chicken and then i cut out fish i was pescatarian for a year that was like the hardest thing to cut out but the last thing i had was sushi and then i never had fish again after that do you think you're you're good for life yeah i just don't want to you could never be hungry in No. I mean, what do you mean? Like if you were starving, like, starving as in what? You got stuck on an

airplane for eight hours and nothing to eat. Oh, no, I'm just for eight hours. I'm good. Eight hours are good. I'm good. I'm not eating it. It must be nice being a hundred. I never would eat plain food, first of all. It must be nice being like a low hundred pounds woman because I need, I cannot go eight hours. I used to fly to Europe going to London all the time. And I would, that's more than eight. And I would not eat anything. I mean, realistically, if you're stuck on a plan, they're going to give you, like, crackers and bread and shit. No, yeah, I'm good, though. I just know how to, like, check out and not even think about it. Like, I could just completely zone now. Must be nice. Vegetables just don't fill me up. I got a real issue. Oh, it's more than just vegetables.

Vegetables is aside. Okay. Well, you know, like tofu and beans and shit? I mean, that's like pasta, you know, rice. I can get, like, a vegan burger. Like, they have a lot of vegan stuff now. But I love vegetables. I really love vegetables. Right. If I for you a million dollars, to eat a steak right now, would you do it? Yeah, a million of course Yeah, yeah I was kind of expecting you to say no I'm going to eat the shit out that steak

No, that's fair because with that million dollars How many animals could you save? Yeah, and how many You know, how much whatever I need Green juices, I could buy all the green juices After that and get all that out That's a good point Yeah

Okay, so just to throw this out there I saw one of the blogs that you were in some sort of love triangle with Chris Brown and Soldier Boy No, no, no, no, no, no. Chris Brown has always been my friend. Oh, okay. So this was just a rumor? Yeah, no.

I just, it was just like I had a picture with both of them. Okay. So they kind of just like, oh, she fucked up both of them, you know? Like, no. So the blogs just put this together? You didn't date either of them? No. Oh, wow.

No, never dated either one of them. Wow, okay. Well, that's good. Yeah, no, just, that's good. Sis friends, yeah, no. I thought that was pretty epic. No, no. I don't know.

why they put it like that. That was kind of awkward for me. I was so young. That was so bad for me. I had so much mental anxiety. Oh, really? Yeah. I was like, dang, like this. Now people think I'm like a bad person or like whatever they want to call me. Wow. So you were getting like the tabloid treatment from like a real young age and they were just making shit up for out of thin air? Yeah, I was so young at that. I was like 18. Like I just did not like that. I don't like that kind of attention like because of male. I just don't want my name attached to nobody. Like I try my hardest and of course stuff happens. and I learn my lessons as I go. But, like, you know, all I can do is just learn from certain situations.

That's why I move the way I do now. I don't really, even if I work with the artist, I don't really try to take a picture with them. Like, I don't want people to just twist things. Well, that's a weird thing about being a pretty girl, so is if you take a picture with a dude, it's just everybody's going to fucking take it to mean a very specific thing, you know? Yeah, no.

I've only really been, like, in one, two public relationships that I claimed other than that I'm not claiming nobody else. Really? Okay, because that's what I'm like looking at all the stuff that's proposed about you in blogs. And it's kind of hard to tell because most of it seems like if you're linked to somebody, it was kind of like there's just a photo you're standing near them. Yeah, like it doesn't. It doesn't attacking me.

I don't know. It was not. Right. Yeah, no. So the little baby thing though, you claim, or a little bibby you claim that? Yeah, that was my boyfriend for four years. Four years. Yeah.

Holy shit. So you were around during the whole juice world? Yeah, I love juice. Yeah. Wow, that must have been crazy. He's really nice. How'd you even meet him? How'd I meet Juice?

Little Baby. Little baby. He messaged me on Instagram and we kind of just like, would just message. He kind of just would message me on Instagram, but not really like, try to see me like that. And I thought that that was interesting about him because I actually saw you when I was with him before at Boa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Point at Shirley Jew. That's so funny.

Yeah. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's funny. That's when I first saw you. So, wait, he wasn't thirsty and you found that kind of intriguing? No, I mean, like, he would DM me, but, like, yeah, I thought I was, like, interesting. Because I, like, usually my type is, like, you know, quiet, calm, like, not really pressed guys, like, at first, at least. Like, I don't really like that. So, and that's how he was.

And, yeah, we would just message each other. And I responded to him when I was in London shooting out there. I used to live out there. So I spent a lot of time in London. So when I came back, I just messaged him back and I was like, oh, I'm back. And then, yeah, we've just been inseparable ever since. How did it end? Just got over it, I guess.

Nothing bad. Just kind of one of your separate ways at a certain point. Yeah, he kind of just like was dealing with a lot, like, you know, after Juice and like his new artist and like he would get real busy. and we kind of both got in the music industry and I don't know we just became like not really the same people anymore but it's all love stills and no issues at all You ever watch the old like YouTube

like documentaries about the whole No Limit Shirec thing freak yourself out for a little bit I was a huge fan of him before Musically? Oh I thought you were too young When I was in high school I was a huge fan of baby like a huge fan But like other than that

I don't know what you're talking about There's like my friend Traplora Ross did a whole documentary about No Limit in the old days of all the shit that they had going on in Chicago. I don't know anything about No Limit. I just was a fan of Baby. That was it. Like I didn't. Look at that. He's a real one.

Yeah. Four years. He didn't tell her shit. Yeah. I didn't, I don't know about no limit. Okay. Yeah. You had a weed store at one point?

Yeah, I did. Where was that? Not weed. It was a smoke shop. Oh, okay. Yeah, I sold CBD there. It was off Pico and, what was that street? Pico and La Brea.

How did you go about opening this? Do you have like a partner or something? Kind of. So my friend, my, who we actually worked together on Glam House, she has, it's a nail salon but also clothing salon now. I work with her on the clothing side and the other side of it is nails. Actually got my nails done there. Yeah.

So she was like, oh, there's like a store, a couple of storefront, a couple doors down, if you want it like I could talk to the owner and he'll just give it to you and I'm like I've always kind of wanted like something that has to do with like a dispensary or like a smoke shop but a dispensary is so far-fetched like you need so much to open that so I'm like I'm just going to make it a smoke shop if you got a million dollars for you and a steak you still couldn't open a dispensary in L.A. Yeah exactly. Still can't it's like hundreds of millions I think people who see this clip and didn't see the other clip we're going to be really good to use about it um but okay so you just opened it up

Are you a big pothead? No. I mean, at one point I was. I can be, but, like, I'm not, I don't have, like, an addictive personality. So I don't really like. You like being around at though? Yeah. Like the ambiance.

Like, if, like, people I'm with is smoking or if I'm in the studio, yeah, I'll smoke. Or, like, if I'm just chilling, I don't have anything to do. Yeah, I'll smoke. But, like, I don't have to. Like, I'm not like, oh, I need a blind or I need to smoke, no. Right. You ever get too high? Yeah.

Too high. Does that happen to you easily? If I don't smoke for a while, yeah. But like, if I get too high, I just get too quiet. And, like, I just don't want to talk or, like, real sleepy. So I don't really try to, like, smoke like that. I miss the old days in my relationship where I would let my girl hit the blunt one time and then she would just go to bed next to me.

Aw. She doesn't even want to be near me if I'm smoking at this point. Really? Yeah, she hates the smell of the now. I don't mind. I don't mind being around it. If I just don't want to smoke, I just want to smoke. But, like, sometimes I will. If it's around me, I will.

Right. Okay. So after you had the Drake and Rick Ross song go crazy, from your perspective, did you want to, like, really double down as a producer? How did you kind of continue to pursue that? So I kind of was just, like, I want to take everything slow

because, like, being a girl producer, I'm not as good as the other producers. Like, you know, it was just very nerve-wrecking for me because I couldn't really have anyone to talk to. Like, I can, like, most producers, in the game are like my brothers. So like I can talk to them and give ask for advice, but they're not a girl at the end of the day. So it's like they don't really have the correct information on what I'm asking them. That's actually going to like really help. And a lot of them have

really helped me. Like those people don't think about it too much, just do what you have to do. Just focus on your work, you know, just just do that. You know, like don't focus on anything else. Like, but at first I didn't know how it would be. But now I know how it's going to be because I've done it for a couple years now. But, like, yeah, it was just very nerve-wrecking. What was your question again? Did I answer that? Just how you went about pursuing it after that?

Because I feel like after the Drake song, it's kind of like the world is your oyster. Like, everything you might want to do. You probably got labels trying to sign you. Yeah, people was reaching out immediately. Like, people was reaching out as soon as a song came out. Like, it was crazy. But I was reaching out to artists I would want to work with, and they would hit me back.

And it was just, you know, always about work. Like, that's all I really wanted to do is work with all my favorite artists. And that's kind of like what I told myself, even when I worked with Drake, like, if I'm going to work and do this producer shit, I want to work with Drake. Like, I want to work with people that I want to work with, you know? So, and that's what I'm doing now. So I'm really excited. Yeah, that's amazing. But have you worked with any other artists since then?

Or, like, are you thinking about putting out, like, a full project or something at a certain point? Yeah, I actually already kind of have it, have that. But like, I'm just like a perfectionist. So I wanted to be like super perfect. Like I want everyone to love it. I wanted to go viral on TikTok. Like I want to make a real statement with the position I'm in as a female producer. Like I don't want it to just be, oh, she's a female as whatever, you know.

Like I feel like in the music industry, people try to do that to women. And I wanted to be like undeniable. So I've kind of just been. in my perfecting stage. Yeah, because, I mean, when you really think about it, there's been, like, female producers in a rap, but you haven't really seen one become, like, huge. I'm probably, like, forgetting.

There's probably some exceptions to this that might be worth mentioning. But you haven't seen a ton of that of, like, a girl be able to be a Metro or a DJ Khalid or whatever. Yeah, that's what I would want to be. That's what I'm working towards, like, not just being the best female producer, but the best producer. Like just, you know, being the best I can be comparing on everyone's, compared to anyone's beats.

Like, that's just what I'm focused on. But is it hard to balance that? Because I feel like when you're off doing this modeling shit and like having a real social life, that it's probably hard. Because when I think of like producers who win, it's kind of like the mega nerds who are down to be in the fucking studio for extreme periods of time working their asses off. I used to be like that. I used to be a mega nerd when I was just sitting by myself not talking to.

anybody, I could really just sit and just do that. And I can't do it now, but it's more on a like, like, all right, let me just chill. Like, let me think about what I need to do, who I'm trying to work with. Like, and then, you know, work on that. But you would have to spend a lot of time in the studio. I just don't have the mental. Technical knowledge, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is.

I just feel like it's probably, when you get into the really elite level of being a producer, it's probably like, well, once you're good at it is what it is, but I just feel like learning a lot of that. it's probably pretty hard. Yeah, it was hard at first. And I'm still learning more as I'm going. Like, you know, it's a lot of things to remember. A lot of different folders. You got a lot of plug-ins, a lot of, a lot of stuff.

If I were you, I would just get like a ghost producer. I'm going to hire you. You make ill beats. I'll pretend that I made them. A lot of producers do that. Right. I'm not named job. But you have, like, the face for the brand, so you could just do that and just do whatever.

Yeah, I do have producers I sign that, like, they'll have. help me out with my beats or finish them or if they have a beat that they want pitch I'll throw it in the pack like yeah of course but like full on ghosts I like to just be you know part of the creative process so yeah but like my producers of course I would do that for them interesting you got a whole team under you now yeah I do that's dope um okay so oh yeah are you in a relationship right now yeah yeah is it Jalen Brown that you're with no that was another one I saw it when I was scrolling the blogs. No.

I'm not with Jay Limba. Oh, okay. Yeah, no. That's just made up or you're laughing like you don't even know them? I mean, no, we're friends. Oh, okay. But that's just another, oh, okay. Yeah, no.

What kind of, what's the dude you're dating do? What does he do? What lane is? You'll find out eventually. Oh, we're going to find out one then. Yeah. Yeah. But you're trying to be like very low-key about it?

Yeah. How's that going? Amazing. We don't argue. I don't have no problems. We're very, very good. Do you think once it was Instagram official, that might taint it? Huh?

Like, once your Instagram official, do you think that that might make things complicated, having so many people commenting about it and shit? No, I think we're both pretty, like, mentally strong people, so I don't think so, no. But I don't know if I would, I don't know, I'm not really worried about posting it on Instagram. Like, I'm just a private person, you know? Everybody talks to somebody. I'd be lying to sit here and say, I don't talk to nobody, you know?

Right. But, yeah. It's kind of weird because. It's like at a certain point, I feel like it would be hard to hide. Like if you're going to the club with the person, you'd have to like deliberately like not be standing next to them so they wouldn't say that. Anything I do, that's probably why it looks like the way it does. I don't hide anything.

If I want to hang out or be friends, I'm going to just do that. But like, no, I don't hide anything. My goal is not to hide anything. I'm not really like, I do like change things of how I move, but I'm not really like a super regretful person, you know. definitely yeah I just learn from things and move on differently respect um okay so anything else you got going on that we should know about um more music on the way more music production by cc right modeling campaigns by cc and yeah

follow me at syd christine with a see the show are you thinking of changing your instagram name to little cc or something because it might be i looked at it if someone has it i would have to like talk to instagram about that or something because it's the not active page. Right. But yeah, my model name is Sydney Christine. Oh, yeah, for the modeling shit. That's probably better.

Yeah. I mean, either one. I don't think they'll be like, oh, we're not going to work with you because you're a little Cecee. But, like, that's what it was before. When you're a model, is there a bunch of shit you're not allowed to do?

You could have like a code of conduct that they want you to uphold? No, that's not. I guess I don't know what all this stuff comes from people saying. I mean, maybe just when I entered the modeling career, I don't, like, there wasn't any, like, I've never felt like I can or can't do it. I mean, they'll probably be like,

we don't think you should be like riding a motorcycle or like something that you could scrape yourself. Well, that's right, yeah. Yeah, they're more like about your safety. But like, no, nothing about, oh, I have to lose weight for this. I mean, they do prefer you to be a certain body type, but they would never just sit here and tell you to do it. No.

It's completely up to you. That's too much for them to actually tell you to lose weight. Might be like. I've never, they've never told me. And I've been at different types. My weight fluctuates. I could be thick. I could be skinny.

I could be in the middle. They don't say anything. Like, they don't. Respect. I've never had that issue. That's good. Body positivity all day. Yeah.

Yeah. A lot of body, especially now. Good note for us standing on. Yeah. Yeah. For modeling, it's just if you're confident and you know how to take pictures, like that's really mainly what they look for now. For sure.

Yeah. Thanks for coming on. It's an honor you did your first interview with us. Oh, thank you. It's an honor to have No Jumper. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, that's amazing. No Jumper.

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