No Jumper - Lil CJ Kasino on Being Born with Opps, Go Yayo Beef, Murder Worth, Charleston White & More

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

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No jumper coolest podcast on the world and you know while we're in town out here in Houston we had to tap in with my man CJ Casino Big one man we're going down man how you living She's the same shit man been fucking with no jumper for a minute. I appreciate you I appreciate that and of course we got my man Remo in the cut Come on man you're in the house Yeah, all right, just to start it off tell us a little bit about like growing up in Fort Worth and what your childhood was like I feel like I had the same stories

It's average, but got down as far as Fort Worth culture, just super game bang, you know what I'm saying? You know, we're bloods and crips. So we're going down through there, I'm from the east side. So even from your youth, this was something that you were always known about and everything? Yeah, yeah. I was born in this shit just because of where I'm from, you know what I'm saying? And the folks, like my big brother, I got big brothers and family, you know what I'm saying? They grew up in their same hood, so I knew.

was down and born and I was born with ops, you know what I'm saying? Oh shit. Like the niggas don't, a lot of niggas don't live like that. A lot of niggas city is not like that. That's why I felt like I was just able to televise this motherfucker and just go up and, you know what I'm saying? Rapper about my city, how I've seen a lot of other artists doing them like shit, they can do it. What fuck, I can do it too. Shit, I had to go through the same shit these niggas went through.

Niggas was gangster. Like, you know what I'm saying? Me just being CJ, for what I'm six, nigg, smoked with it, a certain particular side of my city. Right. Going down. Because I mean, now it feels like a lot of people they want ops. They're like out for ops. Come, man.

Like, this shit cool or something. Now, that's definitely what's going on. So where the name Stop Six come from? Break that down for the people who don't know. I think it's like a, I guess it was like when the American settlers or something like that was traveling. It was like they six stopped. So they named the neighborhood stop six. That ain't no shit we made up.

That's what the neighborhood is actually called. You can Google that shit. It's history behind my hood. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. A lot of niggas just be making their shit up, like trying to, you know what I'm saying? Make a six,

because that's the coolest shit to say. But, nah, niggas, it's a whole lot of blood, sweating tears behind the hood of stop six. Like, this shit is the most notorious neighborhoods of Texas. What was high school like for you? Like, what kind of kid were you growing up? Man, I used high school to motherfucking.

That was my mom. All my clientele was at. Really? High school was nothing but business for me. All my clientele was that, I was selling weed all throughout high school. How did you even get into that? Man, shit, what I'm saying? My Kim Folk, I grew up around hustler, so a nigga used to really just steal out of my little

Kimfolk, near shit, my big Kimfolk, n'em shit, and go to school selling the shit they had. And, like, a nigga used to be broke, shit. We was fucked up, you know what I'm saying? little shit we wanted out to stow that you know what I'm saying like little candy and boo and shit nigga used to go get from my cousin you really used to give a nigga money

but like I used to see like how he used to be doing how he used to move I line to take something from his shit going his bag stealing something up at his pee take it to school set it so I can buy my own shit you know what I'm saying? Yeah I just fell in love with money right

when did you start really thinking about the rapping side of things and my brother came home from TYC, my big brother in the name, Big Stein, he came over TYC with like notebooks and shit. He had like a shoebox full of raps.

Sheets. He used to rap them bitches to me. Then he had, he had to be on the monitor for a year. So he had nothing to do. So that nigga ended up ordering a motherfucking computer and a laptop and we was ordering like little studio

apps, I guess you could call it now. A little studio shit to where we start recording on them motherfuckers and we just bullshit and you have anybody you were even like looking to looking at locally i was like having experienced success or who was inspirational like in your area um say we got an artist we got an artist like twisted black shout out twisted black i just interviewed him that's crazy yeah he was one of them when you growing up if you say you went on a twisted black you're a damn fool like because he he got locked up in like 2006 yeah he was in the federal round though with my daddy really

The same for the round up here. Y'all have to read about you, like, I really didn't know my daddy like that. Like, you know what I'm saying? And I have to read about, bro. For real? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just not getting out too, like a couple years back.

Holy shit, that's crazy. When we were looking you up, we've seen a clip of you and Twisted Black kind of getting into it at one point. Really? Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it was titled misleadingly, but it was like you were talking to him on your live or something. Yeah, we found you.

I don't know what they were in a name you are, bro. How ya, how you be feeling about all the, like YouTube documentaries and shit niggas be making about y'all boys and shit man that shit be police feds the only fuck with that shit in hand a lot of that should be false information too niggas be putting that shit together they own perspective because we're not talking and telling you all this information yeah and you just trying to put this together and know this shit true and that like that shit just conspiracy theories to me oh okay we're fucking with that shit for sure when did you actually like start to get some traction as a rapper or like when did it start to kind of work

I'm gonna say when I got damn me dropped the song attack 30 game yeah yeah I dropped the tech shit it was over with I ain't gonna care

that bitch did probably like 250,000 in like a week I'm like damn it still didn't hit me though for real it didn't hit me it hit everybody else around me and I seen how they start acting

so I'm like down maybe do got some shit going know what I'm saying something. What leads you to spend your time out here? Or is this like your primary residence? Yeah, I love Houston. I ain't a lot. I made so much money out here.

I ain't even care of it. It's ridiculous. Houston, like, love me. You know what I'm saying? For a niggias happening with the city, every side of this, motherfucker, I'm good. You know what I'm saying? And I can just go to the studio, any studio in Houston. I don't even got a book, you know,

I can just pull up with that motherfucker and see me. Hey, how much you charge for a feature. I'm saying what you got going on. And they can just make some money like that. Like, I ain't gonna cap this. That's why I thought this motherfucker for real. I'm going on where the money at.

Right. What's the difference between Fort Worth, those? Fort Worth, like, a little too crazy or it has less industry, less like opportunity? It ain't no A&R's in the city. There's not no managers. It's not no gatekeepers of Fort Worth. I feel like the whole,

because, you know, we got a lot of bloggers and shit like that. Like, they look at Fort Worth. The circus, you know what I'm saying? The circus show, you know what I'm saying? They ain't looking at that. They ain't trying to give us a chance as far as real talent. I ain't going to, I ain't saying us.

Because I feel like, you know what I'm saying? This shit's bigger than us, game. It's going to be more for a worth artist coming, you know what I'm saying, after us, you know what I'm saying? And I feel like they try to put everybody in the bar from that motherfucker. Like, we're just on bullshit for real. But, like, I ain't going to cap, though. To be honest, it ain't nobody that's, you know.

You know what I feel like, die hard for work. I got to make for a work, put for a work on the map. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's not what's going on. It's still a door to be kicked down. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Interesting.

All right. So where age did you feel like you had jumped off the porch? What age did you feel like you jumped off the porch? I ain't had no porch. We was not allowed to have no porch not come from for, for him. Like, you really stopped six. That's why I like my hood is on the torch. I'm a stop six, bro.

man, you walk the block. You had to go to this school right here? Yeah. You have to deal with you, gang. There wasn't no push for you. You have to jump in that field. Man, the folks were shooting up our apartments almost every night. Like, I grew up hating south-side niggas with a passion

just off of losing partners and losing friends. Growing up, no I'm saying? Before I was able to even get in the smoke, that nigger was already knew what time it was with me. Like, man. Damn, you're painting to a crazy-eyed picture of what it was like growing up in that like are you separated

enough from that shit now to be able to recognize like how much it might have fucked up your mental state like you say you were getting your apartment shot up like every night as if that was normal like I gotta imagine that really does a number on you ducking like we made games out of ducking and made games

out of running who gonna beat each other home no I said when shoot ass when I used to tell my brother like anytime some shit was going on we erase it we erase it we're to the house, you know what I'm saying? That was our shit, like, you know what I'm saying? Soon as they could, we're going,

Mama gonna be looking for us on this gunshots. She know, come in the house, when guns shots, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes the bitches don't stop. Sometimes the bitch's last, and Lodge didn't used to come. They used to let niggas get off and then come clean up shit in our apartment's like, after us, like, yeah, that's how she used to go.

What the fuck? Village Creek. That's scary. Yeah, yeah. Um, so, okay, as far as your name, can we just like break it down? Like, like, you're CJA? I assume.

Yeah. But the casino thing, like, when did that come into play? Like, what was the origin of that? I mean, my partner came up with that. More than, I said, Bugatti Casino. He came up with that shit in prison. I actually came out on some little CJ shit and just put the casino with that motherfucker.

Like, you know what I'm saying? That's the nigga who made me rap for real. Like, I was already rapping from my brother, but this the nigga who wanted me to be a rapper. You know what I'm saying? He's one of the older cats from my hood. You know what I'm saying? He came home.

He seemed what I was a guy. type of young nigga I was and he wanted to take me up under his wing. You know what I'm saying? And also he used to follow my tea lady and shit like that. So like he used to be on a whole bunch of rap shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? What's your tea lady? My mama.

Yeah. Yeah, we heard about that. I've seen that title on YouTube and shit. So like, I mean, that's, that's awkward, I guess, maybe that he had a relationship with your mom at some point. Was it before you guys got super tapped in? Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Yeah. That's how we got tapped in like that, no I'm saying. Okay. So he's like your stepdad in a sense? Or like, do you have that like older relationship with him? Yeah, but, you know what I'm saying? You know, I've been a, I've been this type of nigga, bro. I am since a young nigga.

So it was never no father than me, you know what I'm saying? I was already raised when you came around. You got to understand. Like I was a certain age when he came around, like 13, 14. Bro, at that I had a grown-ass man, my mom, I got big Kim folks that raised me. There's real niggas I look up to. There's real gang.

You get what I'm saying? So when I'm saying? So any father figure I looked like my info now. Any other than that, bro, in blood, you know what I'm saying? No, mutual respect, because I'm a gangster. I've been gangbanging since before the nixas came around. So when he came around, it was you from my hood,

we both Truman Street blood. That's how it goes. But, okay, was he pushing you to get into the rap game? Or was he teaching you what to do in the streets? He was pushing me to be in the rock game. He was fresh home from prison down there, out of the streets for real and he was trying to be a rapper and he was seeing me doing the same shit he used to do know what i'm saying beating niggas up having shootouts getting to it with

anybody know i said loud mouth same shit he was no i'm saying he just fucked with me just wanted me to rap like he was trying to do like yeah i seen one point you said that at one point like early on he was like helping you write your raps and shit yeah yeah yeah that niggie used to write my shit He used to write the whole fucking verses and be like, like, nigga, just say this, you just whoop-whoop-woo, you see that. You got,

you're going to have the whole hood behind you. So he believed on you early on with the rap shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for shit, show. So what was the situation where y'all had fell out? Because I seen where y'all were rocking for a minute. Yeah, that's some bullshit happened. It shouldn't happen, bro. Some shit happened, shouldn't happen.

That's all I'm going to say. Some shit happened. Okay. But how long was he locked up? And then he came out with the casino as, like, a brand name of sorts? It's probably like three, Oh, yes.

Okay. Was that a weird time for you? It was definitely a weird time. My mama had died in the midst of that, you know what I'm saying? And he had to deal with that in the cell. We had to deal with that out here. And it just far as to meet us getting into it, when she went in for, I was a little CJ still going to school. Yeah, I was bad.

I did my little shit at the end of the day. I took my out to that schoolhouse. Mom was here. Like, I had a respectable mom. Mom was a gangster. You know what I'm saying? The end of the day, you were in the jail, came home, nigger. And this, nigger, ain't no.

mama it ain't no love it ain't no nothing I was on the block you know what I'm saying I was like staying on the block and I was controlling my block at the end of that I had grew up to be a man so it was certain shit that went on once it's certain shit that went on like it's like this like my brother like I'm looking at him just like my brother like we used to have fights and shit you go to the penitentiary you scratch you're doing your little scratchy you want to come home you really want to show me that you got some you know you got it I'm saying you want to show me that you could punch harder because you know he used to punch you know what I'm saying

and that's just how my niggas is you kind of got to renew their ass with me sometime know what I'm saying are they gonna think you still know what I said it was one of them times when that whole got out of heat you know what I said we just had to get our punch on and it just didn't go the way it was supposed to niggas handle it the way we weren't supposed to handle it then we punched the aisle in front of people like having a conversation in front of people that shit and it was just some brother shit but you got passed it pretty quickly yeah yeah he's locked up right now All right? Yeah, yeah.

How long he been locked up for? Boone did about two, two, two now. He knocked up at two and a half. He signed five, though. He's on the way. Like, what role do you feel like he plays in your career at this point? Man, that's, man. I'm, I'm too much, he's buried, man.

You know what's going on? Man, let's jump into the bullshit, because I had seen him. I seen a couple, you know, I'll be watching doing my homework and shit. I seen a vlog where, uh, I guess maybe Goyale was saying that he even, the only reason he even knew you because you was corner, around through boo. So Boo and Yale was like the relationship. That's how you got a relationship with Yale.

So, so what was y'all? So, all right, how did you go, yo shit even, like, take to where it was? Because it seemed like at one point y'all was cool. Niggins was making music. And then it seemed like, could you use, you was fucking with the hood fame shit at one point.

And then shit to talk about the thing. We ain't doing that. Next question, no. Yeah, but so, all right. So he was connect to Yale, though, as far as, like, music and shit. Yeah. Where they knew each other from? Then boo-hound boy.

Yeah, so that was, like, some block shit, they're from the same area? Doing boo-home boys, that's just what was going on. He can tell you more, like, you know, like, niggas didn't know me for real. I ain't too much to say, because there was boo-hound boys. Like, I ain't know y'all like that. He was your dick putting me because I had, you know-and-hout-song, and you felt like you wanted to see it. It felt like you're making stars or something.

You know what I'm saying? It's really had nothing to do with it. Nothing that they got going. Go look at my first song, better game attack. It's just like Gucci Game Presents. So people put you on the same conversation, but from your perspective, it wasn't that serious? You didn't feel that like sense of loyalty to him, to him at a certain point? I don't know.

I don't know if you came to paint. I'm from Stap Six. Right. Or out of that if shit, you say I'm in the end. I don't know you. It ain't got nothing to do with me. Do you do with me. Dude, a little bit of internet shenanigans, bro.

Well, y'all be playing into it. So he just did a whole bunch of interviews where I guess your name being getting brought up and shit. He's been saying what he was saying. But he had one thing I did see, he said like early on you was like, he was a part of her fame, you was claiming it. Nothing to do with them guys. So you was never like rapping with them and shit?

Like, was it rapping underneath them? Yeah. But it wasn't that serious. You weren't trying to be part of his movement. Nah, no. And that's what niggas... Because he was basically trying to say you were trying to get a name up off his hood for him shit. Pretty much.

How you feel when he said shit like that? I hope not. I'm doing more numbers. So, like, whatever I did work out for me. Pinguang down and go check a number. He ain't did more numbers to me. He ain't got a song fucking with a tag. Did the game.

He's on, I'm by myself. I need no features I do with my numbers. By myself. You know? Do you think it could be a, um, ever a situation where niggas could like, you know, patch it up and work to come together?

I ain't none to be patched. Like, ain't even, ain't beefing with nobody, bro. I'm getting money. Get money for shit, show, take care of my kids, bro, trying to get to it.

That beef shit relevant, bro. I didn't jump in rap to beat. What the fuck are we doing? That's how to get rich around this motherfucker gang. But you,

but you say, I would have stayed in forward my shit, treacherous. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But you said you take credit for, like, you know, putting the eyes on what's going on in there. So, like, in a way, you kind of was letting niggas know what was going on through the wraps.

Like, you kind of, like, fathered the drill sound that's, like, going on a little bit. Exactly. So you think you started Texas drill? I think they think I started Texas drill. I think they should think I started Texas drill for shit, so. Because it wasn't nobody else, you know what I'm saying, coming like this shit. Point blank period, rock out, tech. We on that.

N'ghers know, when nobody coming like this, where nobody rapping like this. I changed a lot of folks' rap pattern in Texas. I changed a lot of folks' rap pattern outside of Texas. Right. You know what I'm saying?

It's a sound that a lot of folks that blew up off of. I'm an originator. I understand my position. I'm picking out. Texas is originating. We got a lot of those. You know what I'm saying?

I'm a sauce kicker. Some niggas take off with it, make it glow. You know what I'm saying? Do you think the old heads? in Texas didn't want to see you sort of changing the sound or changing the lyrical content and being more specific

about what was going on in your life at a certain point? I mean, I don't think nobody was even fucking watching Fort Worth. They don't even give a damn about Uthu. We just got to show them. Like, we need three stars to break through the industry for anybody that's even

looking for work like it's even a part of the music scene of Texas. For real. Niggas ain't. they ain't trying to put us up there but i ain't gonna lot bro we did a lot for the whole df duff motherfucking um how the new not as far as new dallas but the new wave of dallas you know what i was here before new dallas bro we did a whole lot for the whole shit real bullshit what's your thoughts on like the new dallas movement because like people people outside of texas and shit when you

When you think of New Dallas, you just group everybody up as, like, just new rappers from Dallas. But technically, it's just, it's a click that's called New Dallas. Like, every rapper that's new in Dallas is not New Dallas. Right, right, right. Now, we're talking about the ones. That shit lie, man. Ain't going to lie. We got a salute.

We got to uplift them, y'all-dha. And they're coming like new BMF. And they had to deal done, man. I'm cheating the shit. I be watching me, y'all-a-nigger-like sports. fuck you tell my that's good man because I feel like

when you reach the point as a rapper that you like aren't enjoying what's coming out rap-wise that's usually a pretty bad sign

for your career that a lot of times it means it's coming to an end I've seen a lot of people who really get sick of it and they're still rapping but they don't really

fuck with anybody else's rap that's not good for longevity your time my mom most of that what that mean yeah yeah

turn down there up like yeah now for what for what scene I'll fuck with the New Dallas drill scene too. I feel like they try to put it on, they try to put the shadow over the dress scene.

And the dress scene going, just as crazy if not crazy. But does the drill scene always have to be violent and specific to beefs and that kind of shit? Or is there a version of a drill that is not necessarily going into that? Because obviously it's a sound and it's kind of like a lyrical style. Man, I don't know. I'm not about that one.

Was there a point where you felt like you started to try to put a little less of the street shit into your music or the beef shit? I'm sure you've seen the bad side of that. Just like fun music type shit, you know what I'm saying? Or just music, motherfucker, you know, just music, motherfucker, get count money to. That's what's going on right now. I ain't going to lie at the time, you know what I'm saying? The gangster shit was feeding you become all the way gangster, but like, motherfuckers kind of tired, bro. Motherfuckers dying and shit like that.

motherfucker tired of hearing that shit we're gonna hear some shit about getting money or some hoes some shaking ass some shit like that that's what's gonna know like you can still give them some of that shit but you gotta give them that other one now because like if we want to keep hearing that shit for real right so that's what i've been trying to do for real like turn this shit like my next album i'm gonna drop this last done i'm gonna turn up on some i'm gonna get on my boo's but definitely i'm gonna have some shit on there for y'all just like i can't some money to I was shake some ass to us. You know what I'm saying?

I fucking. I love songs on y'all ass. For real? How often do you do that? You just got to be in the mood or what? Man, I really don't do that shit often, for real. And I ain't gonna let everybody be on my head because I got,

nah, I got a bit. My fan base for the bitches is so crazy, bro. Really? It's so crazy, bro. I still ain't fed them anything, man. I need to find me a live ass with somebody that's seen. A bitch. Somebody sing.

You know what I'm saying? Let them do the hook in there. I'm slam dunk that bitch. Why you think the girls are so drawn to you? Shit, because I'm a hussling. I'm rich. You know what I'm saying? And I'm that nigger.

Bleed, I'm gangsta. How long you've been on an angle monitor? I see you got the angle bracelet line. Burnt died. I've been on that home like a month too. You got a date to get off? Yeah, nah. I'm fighting the case.

Bush and shit is. What kind of case? Um, I'm gonna be in the rest. Oh, well, you had high speed? Really? Yeah, it wasn't really no high speed, though. They can't. I'm innocent.

Mm, definitely. Um, but that's like your only legal troubles in recent memory? No, I got some shit. I got some shit. I just ain't, anything, for them. I got some other shit, too. Okay. You have a hard time keeping your nose clean?

Huh? You have a hard time staying out of trouble? trouble when I said keep your nose clean I immediately just felt like you were gonna think I was talking about drugs that's that's not what that means though nah hell now I what I really do not get in no trouble for real this shit is back court missing court and shit oh yeah bro they put in my court they had put my court day one day next to each other I'm saying I ain't make one I went to the other man we got to check your ass now right

Going nowhere. Definitely. Okay, so when did you meet Sauce Walker? How did that connection become a thing? My nigga Bugatti, no. Let me see. I know Bugatti put Sous Walker on my music. One day I got on Instagram

and Walker was playing my music. He was in his goddamn, the Sous Mansion. He was in his big ass house. Tag my name. He was playing my song. And the whole hood went crazy. I went to, I went to, I don't know. I pulled her to the hood,

put her to the project. brother's shit I'm showing everybody walk story I'm man niggins playing my shit on blood nuk I had a lot of pottes that was super sauce walking out like everything about him was sauce walking I swear to God some real gangsters too like that really pretty dying for the hood I he only he came to my city a minute ago bro and he and he locked bees one of the big homies from my section he came they booked them at the club called Empire remember is that is that they had no shirt on Red Bandan around his shit

And my click with my whole click was there Yeah, gee, we fucking what I'm tough So once he did that shit It was live I would get to texting, bro, I pulled it up to Houston, that's my first time to come to Houston Me Me Me, so my first time coming to Houston. I had barely been out of fucking

Fort work, to be honest, like the first place I went to outside of there was Houston pulling up on soccer Like no bullshit And me and booing out there like the next, the same week, bro did that shit, you know, the same we got sent them a song next day and i went out there to his eyes to shoot it pulled right up to his career and it's been love ever since definitely because you guys still

dropping music pretty consistently together yeah yeah right what uh do you ever think about formally becoming a sauce member or not i'm formally a sauce member already oh no you know what's that's overstood with me and then they you know scene out the end they know they know they still push our brand. They gotta push the brand the home team, you know what I'm saying? Okay. Yeah, you know what time it is with this situation. You feel like the Texas is all rap scene coming together and everybody like, uh, like,

is more unity that's going on and shit? Nah, not really. Not really. It's a lot of unspoken. Subliminal. Weird shit, man. We, I ain't gonna lie. Certain niggas brother got good hearts and, you know what I'm saying?

It's genuine. with this shit, bro. We link up and we do our shit. The end of the day, bro, I fuck with niggas that don't have no hate, bone they body, bro. Like, everybody that's in our circle

for, we don't give a fuck who it is, bro, we see a nigga drop. We gonna post it. We might not even listen to one song. We're gonna go goddamn, you know what I'm saying? We see a post of your picture. We might not even scroll through your collider, but we're gonna post one of them bitches,

you know what I'm saying? Like that, like we can go by a second rule. If you feel like you too big, You know what I'm saying you don't want to be a part of this shit I can fuck you and I've seen a lot of niggas go up and get on that Hauhats like yeah we ain't gonna do that we ain't doing that and get what when that shit come back down could get what the wayne shit went down so if Drake and Luayne go down

nigger you ain't too far from it nigger on blood again so niggins she go down they come right back and get in the circle and then start trying to fuck around network with everybody how we do in Texas and just like you know go learn The bullshit. So one niggas can do that, y'all take them back? Ain't no coming back. No, no, nah, nah, nah, nigger be, they're not.

Cause we know, we understand, you know what I'm saying? We didn't been through, we understand now. So the nigger don't fault you for it at the end of the day. Just don't do that shit again. Definitely. Because this shit go back up. A lot of the nigger don't know that shit. You can stay down.

You can go back up. Your time ain't gotta be over. Everybody time ain't over just because they ain't, you know what I'm saying? Especially if you're young. For you know. For sure. How do you feel about like the the YouTuber slash social media side of Texas at this point?

Because we were just with my boy, FDA, doing a podcast. I know obviously Trost and White, like the biggest name out here probably in terms of internet comic slash, you know, commentators. I mean, how do you feel about that and how do you feel about how that affects the rappers? I mean, that's you. That's your. I ain't a lot of the antics that come with the game.

man bro. No bullshit and it's a level of that shit that you gotta deal with. You know what I'm saying? You're jumping this game, you gotta deal with motherfuckers like that. Has there ever been a time where you really tripped out about something that an internet commentator was saying about you? Nah, not really, bro. I try my best to focus out what I got going. At the crib.

That's ya. I don't be letting nothing on the internet get to me, bro. That's shit. Like you gotta be built for this shit for real for certain people. Like, built for the shit. When I see certain people going on live and explaining and doing it. Man, I'm not doing none of that, bro. Fuck them people.

You be going on live in niggas hoods, though. I'd be saying that's a little different. I wouldn't lie with niggas hood. I didn't lie with my hood, all that. They're gonna say what they want, but like when the nigger pop out, then you don't be having nothing much to say. Like, what you're gonna say now with the nigger there? But how'd I be gone?

Because I seen a video, the nigga Yale went live in your hood. And you and this niggahood for hours walking around. That was not my hood. That was where they be at. What you mean? So that wasn't the spot. I mean, how he said it seemed like you in your hood, you know what I'm saying?

And I think I've seen you back there spray paint and his shit. That shit ain't got nothing to do with. That shit ain't. There's two, three different videos. All this shit, scrammed much. She didn't got nothing to do it, bro. There ain't have nothing to do with that dude. What was your relationship with Enchant?

My sister. No, we got there. She came up rapping at Casino Studios. My partner, Jenny damn D-wrote out down to all her music. You know what I'm saying? She used to damn live there, like, sleep there, like, take showers and live in that motherfucker. Like, no woodshed. Made music 24-7.

My partner consistently asked me to, you know, songs with her and shit like that. Throughout the years, I just grew a bond with her, you know what I'm saying? Beyond music. And she signed a Gucci. Every time she came to the city, you know what I'm saying? We link fuck around when she moved to Houston. It just the lame fuck around on my daughter's for real. I'm bullshit.

It was always on some friends shit. You were never dating? No, I don't know. No. That was serious. My partner was dating up. For sure. You ever think about signing a Gucci?

You ever get one of those famous DMs? I ain't, I didn't think about it, but I ain't gonna lie. That's one of my favorite artists and that opportunity to present itself. I'm saying, see what's up with it. Right. Yeah, full walk. No, yeah, he's the greatest man. That's my number one favorite of all time, really.

Sure, sure. Okay, so at this point though, how often you go back to Fort Worth? Like, what's your relationship with it at this point? At this point, I gotta go back, go to court, every guy. God damn, month. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it probably once a month,

twice a month. Then when I go, I'm a chill for, like, about a week. It's a lot up out of there. Do you feel like it's significantly more dangerous for you to be out there than somewhere like here? Yeah, it's more dangerous for me to be out there than anywhere. Mm. So that Boosie quote that he had on Vlad back in the day's true

the rapper's the most dangerous thing you can do is stay in his neighborhood you know how many times he's true to repeat his so that's how i go yeah does that is that kind of disappointing though just that like you can't have that sort of natural relationship that you'd like that i be getting to my head every stop six day um so what day do you guys do june six june six okay six yeah i get into my head every stop six day the nings be at the jamming this song because I ain't gonna love, but like,

ain't no way in hell y'all, y'all niggas hated that side to where I couldn't enjoy this moment, bro. That's a nigga named Rari from my hood, bro. He had one leg. Nigger had a bud ice, Crown Vic.

Nick on foes. He used to, one of the hustlers, one of the bit, none. Get money niggas from my hood named Rari. He used to every stop six day, he'll get all the kids in one pound,

and he'll throw all the ones he made from the trap. That whole year. You know what I'm saying? He'll save all his ones the whole year. Pop trunk and throw all the ones to the kids. We'll be all that motherfucking fighting all over the money. And I always told myself,

I got to do that shit. Like, I want to be that nigga. Like, on Jesus Christ, why I always wanted some money because we're all right. Like, no bullshit. That nigga did. That shit. And I cannot do that shit.

So every stop six days that I don't get to do that shit. I'd be mad at them, niggies. Y'all broke, bummed niggas can't even do that shit right in that motherfucking. You know what I'm saying? I can't do nothing for them kids right now. And we can really have that bitch player made.

You know what I'm saying? Going down through there. And y'all really hate the nigga out to the point of that, nigga, you want to be out there, bro. Ain't no nigger gonna do nothing to it, nigga, bro. When they'll tell you, bro, it'd be 150 laws out there. I don't stop six days. Really?

Real. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's, and we've been doing this shit for years. It's historical hood. So, like, they know it was going on. You know what it's going to? You know what I'm saying? Niggas be trying to come shoot the motherfucker up every year. So, like, they come in deep.

They, for our marshals, they have in the trailers and shit set up out there. And I'm out the deepest here. No, you ain't going to do nothing to a, nigga. But it's the fact that I don't even just want to be around you, fake-ass-ass-knickers or let you niggas in my, you know what I'm saying? That kind of fucks up the overall vibe. Oh, shit, for real, bro. Like, no bullshit.

I always want to do that shit for the kids, bro. I mean, shit, that's like a free security detail, though, right? Yeah, yeah. It definitely is. Except they could turn on. which usually security won't do that exactly and he'll have like certain 50s and there are hundreds in there are 20s you just gotta find them no i'm saying when he's throwing them he always went to do that shit

all of you'd be coming out to LA and shit and that ain't a ain't been to LA but like three times twice just for like a label or create out there recording at day studio and shit like that I have a trophy too y'all be you be worried about like you know when LA niggas be because like I hear everybody got their jury on and shit but you know rappers when they go to LA nigs be getting booked yeah you worry about you know traveling and shit yeah yeah when I was out there I'm on that type of time oh my niggas right out here oh god I'm not playing not for I fly with somebody with a gun like so we go straight in by gun as soon as we land oh god nigga I ain't just still jumping out

crazy because me can't number you and I gun you and in LA real fast within three seconds. So, like, I ain't hopping out. Ain't doing anything crazy. Like, I'm for work, game. So I know how to move. That's y'all dumb ass getting robbed and shit like that. You tap it with any bloods in L.A.?

No, not really. You don't really know any? Not really. I mean, I got a few blood partners, but I ain't tapped in with them in L.A. Like, niggled than came to the city or I didn't put with niggas north-s-sand-the-street-in-the-street-street-old. As far as the bin-eyed nerds and shit, like,

That's too messy for you? No, being other people's neighborhoods? Nah, no, no, no. I don't care for that shit, but like, I'm the type of nigger. I'm gonna lock in with who I lock in with. You get what I'm saying? Once I go there, I'm gonna lock in. You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? We're gonna be aces, but you gotta lock in one. You gotta have me or got them, Kelly. You know what I'm saying? Blood, nigger, but I foote with you. Uh, D Savage. That's my baby.

Shadda, my baby. They savage money, Paris. power respect and free blow. Free hood. You're supposed to be getting out soon. Yeah. That's crazy. I couldn't tell you the date, but I'm going to let you make you.

Really? You know the date? Less than five months. Less than five months. Damn. Hey, where that relationship comes from? Oh, really? Yeah, I posted just the other day.

Matter of fact, I just talked to another day. He's telling me what jury he's going to come by. Oh, shit. That's fine. How you know him from back in the day? Me had the same manager. Manager met through associate named Ball. in uh... dallas and goddain we started rocking through that he flew me in london i was in

studio with love the same night like 2019 yeah that's dope that's good man you guys got music together from back in the day yeah we got a lot of shit we got a lot of shit we had i have to drop a tape when he got went to jail i dropped the uh tape i think he's got hurried's casino oh shit yeah yeah we did that motherfucker with empire what uh okay so you're with empire no no Nah, no, no. Have you been tempted to sign with the label, or is it not? You don't think it's for you?

Yeah, man, I'm trying to sign for it. I did the independent for this long, I see what they do. I fought with the independent too, but I'm fucking with the label shit too, but I got to get my feet in that too. Why? Just because you think that they could help you get to another level? Yeah.

Yeah. I can help the label get to another level as well as well as too, though. I want them type of artists like I ain't going nowhere bro I'm doing this shit for a decade bro I'd see you niggas fall out the first year they first song be you know I got the longevity of a lot of people ain't going nowhere but I ain't going to lie but I like the stagnant you know what I'm saying slowly for surely though you know what I'm learning a lot as I get to where I'm going but yeah I'm coming for that shit though shit you ever get frustrated music-wise or are you always like just excited to get in the booth um i get frustrated sometimes

and i go live a little and stop trying to like and stop trying to force it you know what i'm saying sometimes you got to go live and then come back to something to rock about you know what I'm saying for sure um how'd you uh end up getting into a argument or disagreement with big X how'd that come about man um how to fuck Did he do something about? Man manager was robbed. Just some of the shit happened with this situation. Because somebody had stowed for me, so a lot of shit happened behind that.

We squashed that shit. That shit didn't know. You did squash it. How'd that come about? That's what I'm saying. Some situations had happened. We got over it, though, and she wasn't done. Oh, that's good.

That's good. A lot of times it feels like rappers start beefing and there's like no way out. out like they just got to keep going out of forever and when really just no beef for real it was just begging for leave it there like no that guy like bro he ain't nobody i got real smoke yeah yeah yeah just put it like that but you felt the way when he was going to the internet to you know that you got robbed for your jersey or some shit like that fuck no hell nah how often nigs be like getting took for the jury and shit out here is that like a big thing for work yeah like niggas you're all right every day and four chicks like yeah he's like he's like he's like he's like he's

Houston, niggas, money out here. Everybody got money, jury, car closed. Like, ain't a lot of niggas gonna spank your ass for something you did wrong for it. But like, yeah, my city, the men getting took down. Like, niggas is getting, and it's a whole lot of stealing going on. It's a whole bunch of roaching going on.

It's a bunch of back dooring going on. You get what's going to be. And this works come with the game, bro. You thugging a night? Shit, come with the game. What you can write the book on this shit? How ya go? Chal was able to piece it up and shit.

Move forward. forward. Yeah, there ain't no smoking, bro. Y'all got some music? Y'all ain't that really work. Man, I had this is what I. The whole shit came from me dropping a song that they had asked me to get on, but shit ain't done no. Who's some people you're looking forward to working with?

Man, I want to do a song with Wap for show. I got to do a song Wop. I want to do a song Post Malone too. Oh, shit. Yeah, I gotta go post on some shit. You think you got a country music, Pippoor. Country music pivot in you? I think I'm versatile.

I can goddamn, you know, any type of tilt. The nigga put me on. Like, you just gotta go first. You know what I'm saying? Create the vibe. And then let me go to a workshop. Put my own sounds on it. Shaboosie Casino.

What fuck is that? You know, that's Shibuzi? I think he's from Nashville or some shit. He's like that black dude who got the tipsy remix. Like the biggest song in the world? You really don't know? Yeah. What the fuck?

Now I got to show you. It's gonna have like 2 billion views. Shibuzi. Spend his casino with his seat on it. It's actually Shabuzzi's his last name because he's fucking Nigerian or some shit, I think. Or I forget. 250 million views. You cannot tell me you haven't seen this song.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, all right. Oh, that's why you said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, yeah, bro, going crazy. Hey, me, big guys just shut down that bridge in Dallas and shit. the residences and shit. Wait, they just shot a video over there?

Yeah. Oh, shit. I got the Shabuzzi followback, but I think at some point he decided that no jumper was not the career look that he wanted. But I noticed he never really like did anything with any like hip-hop media or anything, as far as I can tell. No, I ain't really seen too many interviews. He's on his own mission. He knows what he's doing. Um, shit, okay.

So wait, you were locked up with Charleston White at one point? Hey, yeah, man, Charleston White-A's. What was that like? Like, that ninnin crazy is hell, man. That nigga that was, though, he showed me, like, he showed me the real start of, like, no bullshit. That nigga has to start for real. Mm-hmm.

He shook the whole motherfucking, uh, downstairs. The whole booking processing, motherfucker. Like, everybody was, Chalston White down there, Chances to White down there, all the guards, everybody, all the people. Everybody was, what, go to him? You want to open it?

Yeah, let's look this motherfucker come in here. I was gonna ask you about him. My nigga Bubba with the Bubberger. Crashing the interview for CJ's burger. Oh shit. Bub's burger me and interview, man. That one before. Man.

Oh shit. I would love to give you one, but I think your belly's already full. I just ain't one. Otherwise I would. You tell me, you tell me what's special about CJ and how did you guys become close? Man, special about CJ. He's a stelper for one certified. loyal real nigga through T-Self you know what I'm saying but we really have been

cool right before T's so I know we've been we've been partners for a minute it's been a minute just on some partnership not even on music shit okay but I may probably been like some years and then it just took like what a couple months ago to do some music together we just saw some straight street shit sip and serve don't God who got it was free you know what I'm saying free boo you know what I say he was like I mean he was free when we got in the lab and shit but we was really on some street shit super serve smoking we through walk chilling with all the tears all members and shit and you know

what I'm saying just love for sure but he's certified legit niggins love fuck with him I don't mean to crash in if you don't really that that or Trillberger bugger man I just my paving oh shit man these O gs man they're not gonna watch stuff man they're not doing vial de vial de vial ain't gonna work oh you can't do that you can't put Viagra on Bun B now I'm trying to hype up this little war We're trying to hype up Bub's burgers about pitting them against Trillburger. But then I found out that he actually stomped out the Trill Burger and had like a whole little situation about this already.

Yeah, the whole situation is about the Trilburger, man. Maybe I shouldn't play with this. It might be a little too real. No, no? It's just a burger beef. Burger beef, anything. People lose their lives over burgers. Just to get real out here. About burgers. What you like behind a burger, boy, boy.

Way I record a studio song at with you on, guy with you on uh sauce walker rich music studio in dallas it was a situation where y'all was like in person yeah motherfucker hot ain't mm-hmm you know uh so this is a weird situation right out there tyler the creator actually ate one of these burgers that bub prepared we'll put the clip in the interview but you got a chance to actually meet him he's like one of the most successful rappers out Like, what was that experience like? Man, that nigga is cool as fuck, bro. It fucked me up, too.

And we were sitting in this bitch. He was literally sitting right here, standing right here. The nigga was like, what the fuck we had, Fort Worth? I'm like, huh? So, nigga, what the fuck you know about Fort Worth? Like, nigga, my internet from Ford. Said, for real, why the fuck you ain't tell that nigga about me? Fuck me up.

A nigga, cold in the bitch, though, no bullshit. Like, he was down the earth, bro. He mingled with the crowd, what would everybody around? There was a lot of gangsters in the room. Made a lot of gay jokes. Yeah. We're fucking with that part.

That's just him, I guess. That's always been him, honestly. Even since he first came out, yeah. Cool, yuga. The show. It is kind of crazy how he, like, kind of took Maxo under his wing. It was just like, you know what?

Like, whenever I really do my rapping thing, I'm going to usually do it with this guy. It was a little, make a little goat. Yeah, for sure. Jewelry culture hell of big down here, down south and shit, you know, in Houston and Texas and shit. Yeah, during the day. Johnny Dang's the number one? During day, you got Keynes already.

We were supposed to go there today. Yeah. A photo of me with like 20 chains on would be a whole thing. It might not be believable, but. Johnny Dang, I'd have to be having that shit. Who would you put on the Mount Rush more of, like, Texas music? Texas rap. Texas rock?

Yeah. No rest more. I'm just here. Squire face. Number one. You're with Squire face. I'm going, I'm going Twisted Black. This is a four-worth artist.

Hey. You know what I? Beyonce, of course. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you're usually four. I'm going to say, Slump Thug. Shout out some thug. That's slim to look.

Legendary. Okay, so what are you working on right now? What you got coming out? New tape I'm dropping, man. The last done. The last done. The last done. What's that mean to you?

What's that title say? By the way, done, Donna. You're going to last one's left. Last of a darn breed. Excuse me. Excuse me. Last of a dime breed, man. right away finest. Any features we need to know about?

Not right now. Not right now. I just did a crazy feature run on the last couple of tapes, so I'm thinking about doing this bit solo. I might do like just only two features. You know what I'm saying? Y'all comment who y'all want to see on my dick's tape. For sure. Yeah, this is the first time I did an interview after midnight in a while.

Yeah. I don't usually say up this late. just stay up this late, but fucking, man. We had to get it in, man. Appreciate it Casino. Real tight. Oh, yeah. I actually had a couple of different people that I respect

in terms of listening to rap music who hit me up and said that's the best rapper from Texas. Fuck you, tone up. So, hey, man. Certified, man. Nah, yeah, yeah. Been there, man, no bullshit. Let's go.

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