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I know. He died. I had to tell the British people how significant it was. Ah. We are live. Ding ding ding ding ding. You're telling me we're alive? You guys are going to have to have a Mexican exodus here so I can read the screen.

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That's a good point. I lost you now. And I would like to introduce all of my fellow co-hosts here. First and foremost, we have some will call him the leader of the GERB nation. It's Munchy B, aka the mayor, in the building. In addition to him, we have the MacArthur Park mayor. It's kind of like being the mayor of Englewood, but with a lot more meth, it's Lushito. We do got that.

Not to say there's no meth in Englewood, but less. In addition to that, he's looking a little lupé fiasco today, but we got everybody's favorite guy who laughs on the podcast. It's the one and only Aunt Hefe. Hey, what's the good old big deal? We're giving our eyeballs a rest today. You're a contact guy normally? Yeah, I really wear glasses. I got a script on lens eyecraft.

I just don't wear a lot of my glasses. Then a lot of them I'll be losing too and I'll be tired of losing designer frame. So I just like, fuck it. There was no glasses. You know, I had a realization the other day when I lost like my last pair of Gucci sunglasses I'm like, you know what? I think I'm like a $20 sunglasses guy for the rest of my life. And that's funny, because that's what I've been doing in the cold part about it.

The last pair of glasses somebody stole from me with some time fours. And it was trans-transition lenses. I took them off to shoot dice at a repass, set them on a pool table. I turned around, walk outside, the leave, come back in quickly. Oh, I left my glasses. It was gone that quick. I'm like, you know what? Somebody got you.

Yeah, I'm tired of buying these glasses. I was waiting to catch somebody, though, but they knew not the way. They probably sold them motherfuckers quick. Like, man, look, I got these. Somebody seen them. That's a bandit at least right at Tom Ford. I mean, I paid like $1,300 for him because he was in transit. That's too much.

Oh, Lord. Yeah. I see in a YouTube video that basically broke down. how like Gucci sunglasses are almost exactly the same as like, you know, a $80 pair of Raybans or probably even cheaper than that. Even Raybans are probably like charging you a lot for the brand, you know? So I think for life now, I'm going to just be a cheap glasses guy. I think it like matches your ethos when it comes to spending regardless.

Thank you. You've been a pretty frugal dude for the most part. I'm a frugal dude. A frugalo. And in addition to that, some would call her the current, reigning female champion of no jumper. Jalise's smoke is coming out of her ears right now. It's the one and only,

Tam. Burgers in the chat. Drop the burgers in the chat. If you're feeling Tam. And then last but not least, you got your guy, Adam 22, and we are all here together. You may be noticing that there's somebody

who is not here today. Ricky Bobby? Ricky, aka Flip Phone. I told him, you know what, let's try one episode with Tam and without you. And that's not me saying permanently that any decisions have been made about the Ricky dynamic, but I'm not going to lie,

last week's episode felt like the flow was a little off. Now, part of that is just conversational. Maybe I figure we need to try out, different fits, everything like that. But at least one part of it that I thought was kind of interesting that I never really seen on the pod before is because Lush's mic was stuck like this. So Lush had to kind of like turn in. So you had like me, you munchy here. And then you had flip phone all the way over there.

And because Lush is like Mike, he was like having a hard time reaching it because we're transitioning wherever. It was really like a physical like in group with him. It felt like him on the outside of the little circle. Oh. That really struck me as an awkward dynamic. I'm not saying that has anything to do with his fault or anything. That's some mean girls type. Like, you can't sit with us.

That is kind of how it fell. You can't sit with us. Y'all were the mean girls. You're Regina George. I'm Regina George, which now that I have watched this movie, I know exactly who that is. Thank you. Gretchen Wiener said, you can't sit with us. We don't wear pink today, bitch.

Oh, slight interlude. You want to know something mind-blowing. Please. Okay. In the movie, Mean Girls, there is a hot dude. He's like the hottest dude in the school. Aaron Samuels. Aaron Samuels, right.

In 2017 to 2019, I worked out in the same gym with him, same personal training gym. And I had never seen this. So there's like a handful of people in there at any given time. It would be five, six people working out, right? And my girl's telling me, she's like, you don't know, but that guy in the movie Mean Girls is the hot guy that all the girls like, et cetera.

And I'm looking at him and thinking, well, that's crazy because this fool is a homosexual. Like he's blatantly gay in real life, you know, but if you watch this movie, you'd have no idea. He got the gnarliest injury that one of the gnarliest injuries I've ever seen in my entire life. Ready for this? It's not like I saw it, but I saw the wounds afterwards. He's at his house on Thanksgiving and he goes to take the turkey out of the oven, right? And you know it's a big ass metal pan thing, whatever. And the turkey's sitting there, it's floating in the juices.

And as he's taking it out, he accidentally. accidentally slips and basically burns off the entirety of both of his shins with all of the oil and the fat from the turkey. I feel like this could be a gay-related injury that he just doesn't want to admit and he blamed it on Thanksgiving. What do you think that the gay people are doing with burning hot oil? I don't know. Use your imagination. I don't get that face value. I wouldn't say gay, but there is a lot of white injuries and things that happen on Thanksgiving. Why is that? Like, there's a lot of deaths. What else happens?

There's fires. This is the only death I've ever been. Well, it's not even a death. It's just an injury, but that's the only one I've been associated with. That's a thing. I feel like there's got to be more to that story because just a turkey in and of itself slipping. I understand like, yeah, the oil could burn you. But how does that really happen?

Maybe he had a really fancy oven. It's very easy for me to understand. You would just have to be taking it out and kind of like slip and fall or let one of your hands fall off. And then all of a sudden it just douses your shins. Like, his shit was so bandaged up for months and months and months. and he was like how did you know he was gay I'm just curious

because I've like never thought about that dude after I saw mean girls You can't tell by his mannerism No I just I was introduced to him as This is this guy who's like a famous actor And he's gay But he played this heterosexual dude

In this movie Which is like pretty typical I think Which also is kind of funny Because if you watch that movie It's supposed to be in a high school You tell me that that dude looks like he's in high school None of them were He looks like he's 30

Yeah he's like a fucking grown ass man Yeah Anyway, guys, I'm so happy to be back here. I just want to let each and every one of you know that I'm just overjoyed, just oozing with positivity to be here right now. How's the test feeling? Not on it yet. For real?

That's a good question. I actually have to do my blood work tomorrow. I was like expecting you to be like full roid rage at him like popping it today. When you say things like that, it makes me wish that I did not tell you guys. But even like when I was talking about potentially doing it in the future, every comment is like, oh, he's on it already and he spazze it. No, it's like I've been yelling at my co-os for a long-ass time. It doesn't have anything to do with that.

But I did, I heard the people loud and clear last time. They said, hey, Adam, you're tweaking a little bit too much. We think you're on testosterone. We think you're on meth. So I'm going to make a real effort to be as gentle as possible with all of my vicious criticisms. They said meth-metastorone? That's crazy.

Mifestosterone. That's crazy. I think it was made people strong. I thought it broke you down. You got one bile and it comes with test and meth and that's what I've been shooting out. No, but you know what? Actually, I just watched the Charlie Sheen documentary on Netflix and Tiger Blood. Tiger Blood.

That's my guy. And when it got really, really bad for him was when he was on testosterone and an insane amount of Coke. And like I've said, when he started tripping, winning. That's a weird. Winning. Wait, but so you were his Coke dealer at one point? Yeah, for a while for like two or three months. Have you seen the doctor?

documentary? Yeah, I've seen the whole documentary. So there's a fat Mexican guy who's like claiming to be his Coke dealer, but you're saying he's just like one of many? Yeah, if you read the text that I said, I said, I said one of his dealers and I was and I was, yeah, because. But you didn't make it up there to the Hollywood Hills to them back to the, to them. We was in, we was in, um, off of Westwood and Wilshire in the Wilshire corridor on a, in a luxury condo, you feel me with this director. I'm not going to say his name. And so you'd be serving Charlie Shee, but also doing the product with him. Yeah, hell yeah. We was turning up together.

What would be a normal amount for him to buy? So are you? Of course, bro. You ever sell an oxicon? Hell yes. We don't fuck you up. Don't step on our turf. You go over there.

Because the Mexican dude is kind of saying that like, like, number one, from an IRS perspective, he's talking about like Charlie Sheen paid for this house, as in he sold him so much coat. I'm like, you don't want to say that. But then he's saying that he would go over and selling like 15K worth of Coke like on a regular basis. That's funny because he was buying fucking eight balls for me. Seriously?

I think it was like if bro not available or if he's somewhere where his stash not at and he already ran out for his shit for the night and he here. But here's the craziest part of it. Because he's saying that he was banging seven gram rocks, that's making me think that an eight ball is not even in his mind. Well, although I guess a seven gram rock is two eight balls. Yeah, it is. And we was doing the MJGs together all day. What's that?

Eight balls. You feel me like. JG. Hit you with a punch line. The cold thing was this, though. we never actually shared like women or like what's it called bills

but he was about to say needles for men well I was looking for the word bills I thought you were going to say women or men well yeah definitely not men okay but as and we was about to one time I was about to share a bill with him and then it found out two days later the whole

you know I don't think you're getting AIDS from snorting coke out of the same bill as someone I was scared regardless and we called the director full tripping you feel he's like oh yeah We've known about this for months. I'm like, what the fuck, fool? Like, we're, like, kicking it with this fool. You don't tell me, like, bro got the hiv.

Like, you're not going to get it from doing cologling. That's like thinking you can get it from a toilet seat. You can't be scared. All them got them got them got them got them. I don't, I don't touch them. I don't really even be touching them. Passing blunts with the J-cats and there. I dab, I dab them up, you feel, me?

And then I, you hit the hand sannie real quick. Keep a wet wipe case of bum trying to touch me. What's this new drug that'll be having them? Because I'll sing because I've seen some people in my guard. to park like one of your posts, they be all bent over like this, just like they doing the, what's the name challenge? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see people like that in Hollywood by my car the other day.

I walked. It was like one bra. That's just funny, right? Yeah, but now there's, so there's, so. Yeah, having you just like that in the post? The trank has hit the West Coast. Yeah, that's got to be something else, yeah. That's the trunk.

Because when I was just in Boston, I'm walking with my girl and my kid through the parking line, and I'm seeing a dude who's straight up like, and there's like a fence, and he just ends up like this against the fence. And my kid is just staring out. I'm like, what the fuck? See, these people are not even leaning up against nothing. It's like, it's like the child. It's like motherfuckers just like this.

I'm like, what the fuck? I thought they was playing for a minute. I'm like, get the fucking away from my car. And I pulled my camera out. They wasn't moving. They were just stuck. And I'm like, oh, they're on something. I'm like, this shit crazy.

You could literally like put like a cup on their back. You could like have a whole meal. They wouldn't even notice. Yeah, the trank has hit the West Coast. For those who know what trank, don't know what trank is. It's like basically bathtub. opiates, bathtub, ventanol. The horse shit?

Yeah, like made with... When I interviewed Skrilla back a year or two ago, he was talking about saying that there was a... That was like the ultimate combination is the Trank and the Fent together. Well, look. Or the meth, maybe. Well, the meth is going to keep you awake while, I guess. Like, I'm not going to lie.

As... Even as the resident, like, drug, like, junkie guy over here, like, that's way above my pay grade of junkiness. I can't like... Trank. I'm not saying I, like, I'm a... above it because it's by the grace of God that I'm not sure. I feel like you're not trying to get into like new drugs.

I think I've had enough addictions. You've done toocy? Yeah, I like to see a lot. I'm not going to lie. Here's how I'm digging my personality is. Remember how I've always been on here making fun of like I said that when in rehab, we look at the people that are there on nitrous oxide. We look at them as like the J-Cats.

That's like the PC fools in rehab. Well, that's funny that you say that because just yesterday I was interviewing Swifty Blue and he told me that you seem like you're totally. fucked up on NOS. And I'm not going to lie, it was kind of hard to defend you because a couple different times I've been walking through this side of the office, which not, it's not really in effect most of the day besides the news. And I have seen you doing NOS. Dude, I got like, hides over here and does not. Like, what kind of job is this where you're allowed to just hide away on the side? I'm not going to lie. I got it. How do you be feeling when you catch them? I don't know how to

feel. It feels like this is, this is a liability. Like, what if I walk back here and you're dead? Like, what am I going to say? I got to... Is Josh the HR person? Yeah. Sometimes... I got it... Yeah, Josh's HR.

Is HR like supposed to be in charge of making you not do serious hard drugs in the office? I don't know. I realize that that's just how addictive my personality is. I could get addicted to anything that quick. That's why you just don't go in the bathroom. Oh, yeah. But he's picking it with other people back here. I got addicted to Nas.

So I just, like, yeah. I got addicted, bro. Like right now. Like, well, Like this is a tail end I'm like curtailing it You feel like you're getting off it? Yeah like I'm curtailing it

Really the Charlie Sheen documentary Is not that different From just hanging out with you It's kind of not full Except mine is Hiv We're pretty much the same person Or maybe we have one goddess Maybe that part is

On the gay is too The sex with guys part Yo, in the documentary He comes out and basically says That he went his whole life Not fucking dudes And then he got so into the drugs That he started fucking dudes

Oh wow I think that's cap Can't fuck with you Charlie Man I should fuck with you bro Why would he lie about that? Why would he lie? Make that up for the... Oh, I'm getting this huge documentary on Netflix.

Hey, that's not... I don't know what he meant. Exactly. You know, that's not what I meant was it's not the drugs that made him do that shit. Bro's already... I'm starting to be a believer. Not all, but Crystal Miff is making a lot of people good.

Thank you, man. At least somebody's acknowledged it because I'm not going with this belief. A lot of people coming out like, no, it ain't the drugs. You've been like that. Man, no, I've been some... dudes who've been on Coochie, man.

And they got off that, that meth and certain shit, and it just made their ass experience. And start mething with men. You know what? I ain't going to lie. The meth is it. The meth makes you ridiculously horny. Like early says,

it's making horny for man, booty? No. Just anybody. I never thought of a terrorist. No. I was like, he might just hit a dog. They're in an animal or something. What?

What? Fiphy. Why? Why? You're asking why I did meth? Yeah, you got millions and millions of dollars. Adam? You don't got to do that? No, no, no, no.

I don't have millions of dollars. That was back in the day. That was during COVID. Oh, you did it, right? Meth used to be a clean drug back in the day, though. It's like more of a dirty drug now. Like, back when I was like a teenager, motherfuckers who was doing it, it wasn't, like, effective as it is now.

Like, only thing motherfuckers used to do that shit to stay up, they'd just be tweaking, having sex, staying up cleaning and shit. Now, it's like, it's like some whole different other shit. Like, they mixing it with fucking, um, was spray and all type of different shit, the baby lax it in that's not good shit so that shit really like running ramping on motherfuckers mom

you want to know how I know I'm not gay is because so there was a girl I was fucking for like three years or not three years three months right and then finally look he's got the fucking

nice things in his pocket that's how man see we gotta this is like good no I stopped okay but let me just say this I didn't think I did you do this I got dead solid proof

I'm not gay so I'm fucking with this girl for like three months right and then at one point I am at a party with her. She goes looking for drugs. She's looking for Coke and Molly. She comes back with some little rocks in her hand.

And I'm like, what's that about? She's like not really telling me what it is, but she's saying like, this makes sex amazing. And like, really the only thing I had in common with this girl was that we're like fucking each other. So I'm like, okay, whatever. I'm drunk as shit at this point. I'm like, I'm going to do it with her. She was a porn star or like ex porn star. She's kind of at the end of her career at this point.

And I had not watched her porn. the whole time. You all know I'm a sim, I'm a sucker for love. So I'm dating her kind of like seeing her fucking her, but I hadn't gone to porn. I had not searched up her porn at all. I just didn't really want to think about her that way. Once we started doing the meth, I swear to God, we had like a 10-hour fuck fest all night while watching her porn on my phone. Exactly. It's like it's like dating John Lennon and he never plays a guitar for you. But I say that just to say that in that state,

like a different level of horniness was unlocked, but one of the scenes that I clicked on... A different level of hornyness. One of the scenes I click on, it's her getting fucked by two dudes, and then one of the dudes starts sucking the other guy's dick. Whoa! I immediately!

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, X, X, X, X. I can't see this, so that's how I know I'm not. That's how I know I'm not gay. That's how you... That's why you should not be fucking bitches that are on drugs. They get you in a crazy situation like that. And why everybody... It always leads to more.

Don't trust them. And why everybody's story is like that. Like, I knew like whether they was a dealer. I'm gonna just say the dealers. Like some dudes I knew that was dealers, like, that was like in the same game as me doing shit, you know what I'm saying? Back in the days, they fell victim to the product.

And like, even when I was locked up on my indictment, I'm like talking to someone, I'm like, bro, what happened? Like, what the fuck, bro? You was up? He was getting it. Like, man, I ain't gonna lie, bro. And I was with this broad, I was with the man, her and her home girl, man. I used to be selling it to him.

Man, she was bad. And she just told me like, man, just, just take a snort or a line and my home girl gonna suck you up why I do this gonna feel good and just from there man like it was a downward spiral I'm just like yeah that's that's crazy and that's not only for dealers that's their ass out fuck is you like not like professionals that happen than professionals women women turn men out the drugs more often than the other way around exactly yeah so so so do you think witty really turned bobby out uh yeah yeah we're i believe she did but but bobby took the took the took the blow like well but he introduced her to it and then i think she liked it too much and got too

too into it and then kind of took him with her. Knowing her documentary, her and her brother, her brother was like a basketball player. They were already partying and doing it. Because he was kind of like a street dude. I thought she got him into it. No, they've been having money.

That's what he got. He was doing it a little bit, but she really had money so they could really get to it. Wow. Because you know, back in the days, that blow was really like a rich people drug. You know what I'm saying?

I guess her brother, that's part of the reason why he got kicked out of the NBA. Wait a man. I got to ask you this to him because this is my first time that I've actually been on a podcast with you with somebody in the chat just pointed out. Yeah, that's crazy, right? But before I ask that question,

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One word for an extra discount. Tim, I want to know, what is your experience with drugs? This is something that we end up talking about, kind of like a disproportionate amount, but from what level of experience, are you coming at the conversation? I've only done weed. Okay. I do not want to be a crackhead.

I grew up in the hood. I've seen what crack dust to my people. I would never want to try it. Okay. That's good. That's good enough. In party drugs, I went to fit them, and that's like USC.

I lived by USC, and there's a lot of party drugs. People used to do ecstasy and shit. Not fucking weed. I don't want to wake up. Never even tried it. No, scratches on my legs in a ban. Like, per our understanding thus far,

Tam is a ridiculously wholesome person for the environment that she came from while not being a total square. Which I think that's a good place to start from for a female co-host because I feel like if you were just like a full-blown drug addict, that might be a weird fit.

This might be a worst environment for me. I might really be back here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry for the PPS. I'm not, I'm with you all, man. I'm about a full. You know what I tried. You know what I tried that, that, that, uh,

that was around for a little well. I know it's still in the universe somewhere, but Monrock, not the weed. Oh, yeah. Not the weed. Molly. What's that? It's like, like, I guess pure than Molly, like,

it's, so it's basically like. But if you see it, you go, like, hold on. What's that, bro? It's purple Molly. It's like the, it's like a good, it's a really strong form of Molly. Yeah. It do the trick for the show.

It's a trick. What trick? What trick? What trick is supposed to do? By the, I mean, it gives the desired effect of, yeah. And I might wind up tricking if I'm off of it. Oddly enough, you feel me? Like, yeah.

The bar. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not that down bad, you guys. But I just like, I cosplay is down bad. I'm actually doing good. When the Moon Rock weed first started really coming out, I would know mad people who were rolling blunts with that shit. And it would just be like,

the stickyest most impossible thing to smoke on earth. They'd be passing it to me. I'll be sucking so hard. Nothing comes out. I'm just like super confused. If they give it to you in a dab, you feel like your outer space is going to pass out. Anything and everything on weed, bro. Weed ain't supposed to smell like nobody fruit.

And then like the color, like, what's that shit called? The moon rock, because I used to, you know what I'm saying? The keef, they put on the moon rock. Then you want the gold moon rock. That shit, you know, they smoke. No, for sure. So I just want to mention this is that me and Munchy had a BBC adventure yesterday. Pause?

Nope. It sounded like a pause. It's exactly what it sounds like. No. Okay, so get this. There's a dude who's like a male escort. He's retired now, but he was like banging girls for money for like 15 years. He said, the Punisher.

No, but similar lifestyle. The Punisher. And this guy had like emailed no jumper a bunch of times. And I kind of vaguely actually almost remember seeing. one of the emails, but he has been working doing Uber. He picks up the mayor. Okay.

The guy immediately knows who Munchy is. Munchy and him start talking and having a conversation, and then Munchy found the guy interested in another day. They told me, hey, we should interview this guy. We had him on yesterday. And they're making a whole to be series about this guy's career as a dick salesman. Wow. It's like BDSM.

BDSM. He doesn't just bang the chick. but he's like, they're all about being controlled. And he's, he's having them get on all fours. And he's putting his feet up and using them as a stool. And they love this. This is like their thing. Putting them on leashes.

That's pretty wild. And it's a kid. And it's with paddles and shit. You know what I'm doing? Damn, this is doing God's work out here, apparently. I guess it's the lane for that shit. It was wild. I'm just like trying to wrap your head around, like, how this is even, how does this work?

Can you imagine you, like, you know what it's like to be in a relationship with a woman. They're not usually just trying to be subservient all the time. If anything, the relationship is a path towards control. For sure. You start off the relationship. The girl can't tell you shit. Fast forward 10 years. All of a sudden, they're running your whole life.

Aren't you happier? I got a homie shit. He got a cold program. Like, he got like probably like, my boy Stevie J. He had a comedian here more too. He got like he like eight relationships. We were just at this pool party this weekend. And he like had all eight women there.

I could never do that. Polyamry. Like does Stevie J? Not that one. Not a hip hop one. Yeah, different guy. Yeah, yeah.

I brought him up here once. He's a comedian though, but you know what I'm saying? I brought him up here. I brought him up here once. But, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, he's like shit. He got like,

he likes shit. He got a cold program. Is there any part of you that has ever wanted to pursue like a Dom sub relationship? No. No. This guy's walking girls around

on Hollywood Boulevard on a leash. Like I would. do it to somebody for money. Okay, but that's not like something you desire. But you do it to somebody for money? Like if somebody wanted me to like walk around in boots and talk shit to them, I would. Pro-dom worker. Yeah, yeah.

What if you got a, you got to stomp on his balls with high heels? Just working on like this way. You like that. How much are you paying? If that's what you're into. Oh, sorry. One mic? One mic?

Um, to be honest. I got a home growth. I was waiting for her to respond. Sorry. My bad. I wouldn't want to stomp on somebody's balls, but for the right price. Like, if you're, you're paying, this is what you want. Yeah. I used to know a girl who got a job as a dominatrix,

and then she was really, like, freaked out by it because she was having to, like, take these metal rods and shove them down the guy's dick hole. Yeah. So she couldn't handle it, like emotionally. Yeah. It fucked up too much. So Sto Boy, BLU, and he say,

I'm not to cash up you a thousand dollars. I want you to spake me with this paddle. You pulling up? Spank me with this paddle. That's too dangerous. You can't just go to some random dudes' house. Deposit is $1,000. He's shooting a deposit.

But that's like, you got another. That's some killer shit much. But he's going to kill you. You stepping on the balls, though. That's like shit case you get that motherfucker of burst or something. That's what I'm saying. That's why I wouldn't want to do it. Yeah, right?

I thought you said you, that's what you want to do for some cats. No, I said I would. And I said, I don't want to. But if he's going to pay me, then I thought. Like, if a girl told me to punch her in the face, like, I don't want to. I don't want to fuck you up too much. Yeah, because it just be like some crazy shit. Like people be having some crazy ass and they're going to want to go too far.

Kinks. I'm upset. choke me, choke me harder, harder. Like, well, I ain't you, which you want me to strangle you in the world for me? Would you interview Stu Boy Blue with me? I don't know who he is, sure. Let's talk to him. I wonder that the dynamic would have been different if Tam was there.

He can cry and scream at you in the course of like 45 seconds. People were a little manic. It wasn't no tears coming on. It's a face. I mean, I think it was like, they flew up. They got to zoom in. I think it was Almighty who said it, but it was like,

this was the best observation on this interview that I heard was like, it seemed like that was really therapeutic for him. It didn't seem like he was necessarily trying to direct that aggression at you. Like, because at first it seemed like he's right there five feet from your face yelling. It's like you're feeling that aggrat, but he's not trying to direct it at you.

It's like just pain that he's been holding onto. And this is his first real. I did think that he was going to beat my ass at one point. But yeah, I was kind of thinking that is like, okay, I don't think this is about me. He's going to do his own thing, huh?

He had a blick on set? Not that day. I swear to God, I was in the other room. I swear to God, I was in the other room. I just didn't think about it. He shows up solo. Normally, I'm only kind of thinking that when it's like a bunch of things. You know, it's like, I showed Vlad the clip yesterday.

He can't show up with nobody. He got to show myself shit. That shit he in, too. He took the bus, too. I don't know. That's fire. He took the bus there. Hell no.

He took the bus here. Damn. Cold person. I don't know if I ever met anyone who did that before. Hey, I, hey, I don't want to get. get this nigga, the effie body here, you caught him over. No, I had Jalise go to the ATM, too. Jalise went to the ATM with him to withdraw the money.

Like, we had to, like, Jalise had to take it out of her account, then we had to give Jalise. She got in the car with him? Why does that even make sense? I don't know. She gave a ride to ATM, yeah. She seemed like she was kind of spooked. I think there was a little part of Jalise, though,

that was kind of feeling that chaotic energy, you know? I agree. Don't do this to the girl. Not in like a, not in like a, Not in like a diss to her, but I don't, she's accustomed to that. Let's just say that. She's accustomed to dudes. Don't do that.

He's just called her a crackhead. No, it wasn't even, that. No, being around, like, turned-up gang members. That wasn't just drugs, though. That's mental health. He got going on. He got some shit, like some. There's a lot going on there for sure.

Anything you could have going on, he pretty much got it going on. Why are they saying I'm dressed like a gym teacher? Switch hitter. Fire. I did. I got some baggy pants. What? Let me alone.

Yeah. Where, hey, it's, it's that era. Yeah. No, but the reason why I ask Tamberger,

if she would like to do a interview with him is because, like, he's kind of made it clear to me that, like, he needs a nice young lady

in the building in order for him to do an interview, like the female presence is kind of soothing for him. And I think that, like, like with Jalise, like,

that's the only thing from keeping him going like full crash-out, cycle. Although part of me also one is if maybe, maybe some of that is kind of performative for the girl. Like, look, I can yell, I can cry. I cover all different shades of what it is to be in.

You don't want to show that, men. Don't show your emotionally unreliable. You can't just be like, no, I would never have anything to do with you. You've got to keep, like, the door open. I think he'll be, like, I'm feeling them out a little bit. If she was across from him, I think he'd be way of cummer. For sure. But he can cry on the spot for you and then stop.

They're like, come out. This shit for real. But girls like that. They, like, want you to be emotionally available, don't you think? No. No? That's emotional instability. You don't want nobody you can tell cry right now.

No, psycho shit. Girls want you to be able to cry, but they only want you to be able to cry about the right thing, the perfect thing. They want you to trigger some type of maternal instinct in them, but they don't want you to be mommy. You feel me? Like, they do want that feminine energy to be brought out of them, but they don't want to have to be your caretaker. My question is, where do you keep getting these pennies from, bro? Is you stealing your auntie panties and some shit? What the fuck?

Maybe he's purchasing them. Maybe he's buying them. He's going to the store buying pennies. Go to Rainbow. Probably get like a five pack for like three bucks. Hey, for anybody else, it's like I'm from my daughter or some shit, right? But for him, the whole world has seen him deep thought the Phantom Bottle. So they go be like, oh, this stick in here, get some, you know what I'm saying?

Some lingerie and shit. Okay, so is a, do you think the presence of a female on the pod, the request for that is like to offset that? Yes. Well, I don't know. But I think that at the very least the female presence, he feels like, give him a balance. I think he just really likes it slash like it helps keep him cool. This is his new dating service essentially.

Fuck Tinder. I'm just going to get interviewed on a new joker. The male loneliness epidemic. That's a real thing. I think we're all dealing with it. Not dealing with it. Male loneliness epidemic. This nigga is not lonely.

I'm a little lonely. You lonely? What's that? There's men being lonely. In increasing numbers. Loady for what? Women? fucking friends, feelings.

You're not lonely, ever? Not lonely, like... Mr. Lonely? I'm like, and that's what I'm saying. It's different aspects of being lonely. Like, it's like, I'm not lonely, like, from, like, no woman presence, I don't think. I'm lonely, probably, like, at times from other shit, you know what I'm saying?

There's certain individuals, like, homies that aren't around anymore or I fell out with, like, I mean... Or I don't even lie. Like, just me, like, I don't even lie. So, like, as of lately, me and women, me and one of my childhood friends, like we had a conversation, like, and he from the gang, too. And you know, he got some breads, you feel me? So we were just, like, talking and he, like, how he viewed things and his aspects of things. And, like, we both was like, yeah, now the

motherfucker kind of understands what it means, like, to outgrow some people, you feel me? Like, because some people still be on the same shit, you feel me? And a motherfucker might feel that you acting funny, but it's like, nah, you being reckless. And I can't be reckless like that no more. So it's like if I can't be reckless like that no more And I'm telling you that you feel me And you still on that Then it's like a motherfucker gotta disassociate itself I feel like loneliness is kind of foreign to me at this point

Just from having a girl that I live with and a kid A kid. Because that's just like infinite positive affirmation Even if your girls matter you The kid is always gonna love you no matter what and shit That's just like constant emotional validation But I kind of like think back to like before I was in a relationship and for sure, like,

I'm the kind of guy that if, like, I don't have a girl around and, like, I mean, the homies being around is good, but it's not the same. Like, I'm definitely, I'm a lonely person for sure. Like, when I'm, like, not right now, but, like,

if I don't have my girl around or if I don't, like, have, like, a bunch of homies around or whatever, if I'm just kind of solo in the house for a couple days in a row, I start to go crazy. And I, I got to, like, create something to fill this void.

That's not loneliness. That's bored of. Yeah. To a degree, I think that's true. You want me to look up lonely? People are tribal, though. You're not meant to be alone. I don't think your definition of loneliness is wrong,

but I think Munchy is right. I think that comes from a place of bored. I'm like, me personally, I'll say this. I would, my fantasy is to be able to just be by myself for three days. If I could have a hotel room by myself for three days, but no responsibility. Yeah, with Charlie Sheen. No, like him.

To tune that thing up. No, like, look, loneliness, sadness, because one has no, friends or company. But you say, but that's something different. No, he's like after a couple days in the house. That's what it's alluding to. I mean, you ain't got nobody to hang with.

When I was in Istanbul getting my hair cut, my hair fucking surgery done, I mean, first day, hell yeah, I'm in this hotel room. I got my weed pan. I could order room service.

I can play poker on my laptop. That sounds amazing. By day two, day three, like, God damn it, I'm lonely. I need something.

Like I just, I need some around. like I can't just be by myself for days on end. You know what I could tell about you? You got a shorter teacher span, huh? That was kind of almost saying that to you. No, no, no, no, no, no. Sometimes, not wrong.

But not, no, you got in trouble in class. Did you stay on task? Oh, no, no, I was a monster. I could tell. For sure. I can tell. But what is making you say that right now? What did I just, did I just, did a breeze pass and talk?

No, no, no, no, no, no. I could just tell. You had a classmate, like you? Huh? You had a classmate like you? Huh? You had a classmate like you? No, I'm just good with that shit.

Intuitive. I read Tim another day. Like, you can, like, you know what I'm saying? It just shows. Yeah. You were smarter to do the work. You just, I mean, all of us white boys that are essentially our age, we have short attention spans.

It's kind of like, you know what I mean, like part for the course of why we were all on riddling. Yeah, well, I mean, my parents never really let them put me on those drugs. But I do want to just say that I think that a lot of times we come on this podcast and we talk about all the topics and everything. but I do think that like we need to have more talking about ourselves and each other and understanding each other more because I feel like that brings us closer together if we can kind of understand each other and and and hey we have a we have a sensitive

laughing first of all we haven't been like Bart Simpson over here is like fucking nerds y'all gay ha ha ha no I'm just checking out of my man what you wouldn't want to took your shahada this weekend or something man like that's a shahada you had a spiritual awakening Jewish shit I don't know about that I'm just saying that because I don't watch a lot

of Joe button podcast but I watch a lot of Danny from the stop reacting to the Joe button podcast and like I just I see them kind of like camaraderie it's camaraderie and it's the opposite

whereas like they're they're getting actually like genuinely annoyed and pissed off at each other but they fuck with each other but it's like there's just more of like a real emotional

connection in a way and I feel like the pod is better the closer that we get to that. So you want to do team building. Exactly. The trust fall. I mean, dude, check this.

Would you do the trust fall? I would do a trust fall. Maybe not have Munchy's the only one there, but. Well, I'll catch Munchy. I'll catch Munchy. Dead homies, yeah. But here's the thing, red homies. But here's the thing.

Like, Munchy and Antwer. Okay, so Wack got you correct in this week. I don't like that word, but Someone calls you a bitch enough times You start to get convinced That might be true, I guess, right? Fucking Munchy and Ant were like incarcerated together There's no camaraderie on the Joe Button podcast

That could ever match that level of understanding You said Munchy and him were locked up together Yes But you think we gotta go to jail us? In the same place. No. Yeah, we were across from each other. You and Munchy.

Yeah, we never told you. We talked about that. We did talk about that. We just forgot. For real? Because you sell, just as surprises right now, you, the same time.

I don't remember that. That's crazy. It's because we actually, I'm glad that you're getting on our hype because we actually fuck with each other. You feel me already? We actually talk about this shit. So paying attention is the first step

towards understanding each other. Boom by yeah. Wow. Such an unnecessary thing I'm getting hot in here. God damn. You know the next step, baby? I think I'll be careful. I'm a good judge of character fucking with jail, though,

because you're in a dorm with, like, 80 people and you're doing with all these different personalities. You, like, you know me? Okay, that makes sense. No. And you're in close quarters with each other, so you gotta learn. I get to conversation with somebody long enough.

I kind of, like, gotta figure it out a little bit. When was you guys locked up together? Like, 10 years ago, though? 2011 or something like that? Yeah, something like that. More than 10, 11, right? 10, 11, something like that. I was in there 9, 10, and 11.

You was in there all three of them years, too? Yup. You guys never had a squabble? With each other? Yeah. Well, for what? I don't know. Some soups.

Some chili limes. Art communities don't Yeah. Okay. That's good. I only get into it like with the tough guys, man. Like the cold dudes. Whoa.

Damn. That was, Much he's not a tough guy. No, he means people that are looking for a problem. We're reading the tea leaves. Ridiculous. No, but I was like, even though obviously I've never been locked up like that,

I will say that based on my experience around people that who have been, I think there's a greater understanding of the human condition that comes from incarceration. When you're in a room, especially with one other person, let's say you have one celly, right, for like a year. And it's just you and him,

you see that person under every single possible condition that could occur. Like, oh, he just got a letter finding out his wife's leaving him. Oh, this happened. And eventually you could read people on a fucking deeper level and have a, a level of intuition that those of us who weren't forced into that circumstance can never understand.

Tam, you ever been in prison? No. I have a question for them, though. Yes, please. If you guys don't mind, I have, like, read a lot about that the condition in the California prisons is, like, unconstitutional. At one point, we were under federal investigation for that. Do you guys feel like when you were in jail, they were treating you, like, to an extent that was unconstitutional or would be against the law otherwise?

Did they have you two packed in there? For sure. County jail? Yeah. Because like they change men central from a jail to like a mental health. I've seen every jail like from a county jail to the state to the feds breach protocol and what's in the Constitution if you know whether it's making sure when you're on lockdown because you could be on a lockdown right. But it don't matter regardless of that lockdown like Constitution says you got to shower

every 72 hours regardless of what's going on. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, I don't definitely see them breach protocol a lot of times. Definitely in a county jail. That was filthy, sleeping on the floor. And they had a whole investigation. That's why Sheriff LeBaka got fired. You know, I could have filed a lawsuit with that, but, you know, I wasn't tripping.

I got caught up with some shit on the 3,000 flow with them. Damn. What on the way you know is the class action suit for that jukeball shit, because when you go to the hole in Supermax waist sight, and they ain't supposed to punish you with fool, bro. And that shit is not supposed to be bad for humans, bro. And, you know, some people would like, I ain't going to them a lot. Look, when I was in a hole, a dude used to give me.

a soup for my juke balls. He's like, hey, bro, no, I got a soup for your juke ball. What is a juke ball? Is that like neutral loaves? It's like a fucking just, every scrap of meat, like meatloaf, like chopped up everything. Just like a ball of nutrition? Yeah, just, yeah, supposed to be. Minimal.

Just look crazy. That's why he gave you the soup because he won't that protein or some shit. He wanted that shit. I, you know, me, I'm looking, I'm going to eat it. I'm looking like that shit like, hell no. Like, I'm going to just peanut butter out. And they get money. They get a budget to feed them.

And they technically, like, spend the budget because if you don't spend it all in the food, you get to keep it or something weird shit like that. So they intentionally cut corners. But I've been in kitchens, and I've seen on the boxes in federal kitchens, like chicken that you get in meat that you get in boxes says, not for human consumption.

No, for sure. And that's the point. So I'm like, for sure. No, so the dude's sheriff, Joe Arpaio, and I think it's Maricopa County in Phoenix, Arizona. They got some shit called Ten City out there. That's their, like... Yeah, yeah.

That's their jail. That's the county jail. You feel me? That's their... And it's the... I mean, arguably, you could say better or worse... It's inhumane conditions, and they feed this neutral loaf to the people there. And it's technically worse than...

Worse than dog food. Like, I don't think that human's supposed to be eating that shit. They're not. Hey, hey, because when the... They got him about it. My cell used to come open, I used to put in a bag. And the humming one, it's like, I used to toss in the front of his cell when they land like, I saw a hell.

Oh, no, bro. They're trying to kill me in this bitch. I'm already skinny. I ain't eating this shit. But, yeah. Hey, stay free kids. Yeah. Deal.

Hey, can I make a request? I think that the Thursday show needs to get a little bit more profanity conscious. What happened on the Thursday? It's just like... It's too many squares. An unbelievable percentage of those episodes end up getting demonetized in comparison to this podcast, which I feel like we use a fair amount of profanity and we smoke drugs and kids and kids. K2 and all kinds of other stuff on.

It's crazy. Who's smoking K2? Well, sometimes I'll pass you this from K2. No, I ain't ever start no K2, I ain't. I'll be passing. Hey, you must have been smoking with Kodak. Kodak black. Is that what you're talking about?

That's what the jukeball is? Yeah, that's horrible. But yeah, it looked like that for sure. So it's darker. So it's, I mean, it's older. Sometimes it's warm, sometimes it's not. Or half of it is. Does it taste good at all?

No. Can we put it on the screen? You know what some people do? Some people save their seasoning packs from um romans and they're seasoning it they don't season that automatically they try to jazz it up they could come bland

white people shit right there man that's what like you in the hole eat this motherfucker you're in trouble I mean honestly like that looks very feeling which is probably like okay by me because when I think about prison I always just think about like having to eat like small amounts of food and like not enough food and that seems

really torturous neutral loaf challenge why just because you're already in jail I'm thinking the principles of jail is so you're taking away from the public not to make you be in here and suffer also. I thought taking the freedom was the suffering. Yeah, but you're supposed to be scaring them into not going back. But there's cruel and unusual punishment. But that's further and criminalizing people. The Constitution about cruel and unusual punish nobody with food.

Yeah, that's why that's it is. And you're breaking down a person's mental capacity. Just like what I'm here, it's a lot of shit people out here is unconscious too. So like in jail, you got to be in that law library. You got to file certain paperwork to let them know. Like look out, you're in breach. I know what you doing. They're going to get in line.

What's that shit called? But a dietitian, somebody approved this bullshit. Yeah, that's real. You have to keep you alive. And that's not to keep you alive. They're trying to say because all it is like basically. So let's just say we chopped up all the hamburger meat, the meat loaf, the beans. All that shit is just beans, hamburger meat.

All the scraps can compact into one, the fucking potatoes. You know what I'm saying? All is just compact into like a big ball. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Well, hey, it doesn't sound bad. Like it's worse than that. They're saying it's protein.

Like, it's really protein. I hate to break it to all of our past and present criminals, but my tax dollars not really intended to be going to paying for Ruth Chris for you and your buddies. So I, yeah, you're probably going to have to eat the jukeball. There's a roof Chris for you and your buddy. Hey. There's a fucking fire line. You know, it's crazy.

I want you to try it. Adam, there ain't no way to get a jukeball. No, yeah. For real. I would like to try. Yeah, I want you to. Yeah. I want you too.

Yeah. I bet you we can't eat the whole seat. Tam, do you listen to Taylor Swift album? Uh, yeah. Why the Swift he's hating? Why are you saying, unfortunately? I love it. All the Swifty.

Adam, you do not love it. I know you love it. I love every single song. You're trying to be a dissenter. No, I'm not. Why is her own fans who literally would like, bleed out for her. You're right.

Many of them have turned on her over this, but they will all be proven wrong in time. This is the biggest debut album of all time. The people, regardless of that, because it's Taylor Swift in 2025. Four million cops. one week. Keep in mind someone like Drake will do 300k. Michael Jackson's never done four million in one week.

Nobody's crazy. Granted. She did four million in one week. It's not fair because she's got a lot of fans who are buying like 10, 15 copies of the album on different colored vinyl. That's fair. Which like someone like Drake is not even dropping vinyl or CDs. And she's doing different versions.

Exactly. She's gazing. She's juicing it because she just dropped like another project you can listen to that's like the whole album, but it's like her. rehearsing the songs live. So like she's dropping every different version of this you could possibly drop. But that being said, I still, I really like the album. And I, my thing is like a lot of the reason why those fans don't like it is because

they want her to make this weird whispery diary entry style. Like, you know, really heartfelt. Yeah, but like she used to do a lot more pop songs and stuff. The last project didn't have them any pop songs. This album is like every single song sounds like it would be a top 40 hit. And that personally is kind of what I'm into when it comes to her. I'm not really trying to hear you cry and slit your wrist in your notebook. What's your favorite Taylor Swift song, Adam?

I don't really go with the song names. I just listen to like a wall of her songs. Tear, every day I wake up and I have to listen to Taylor's strip for like an hour and a half with my family. Oh, because your daughter. Yeah, my daughter and my wife. My daughter already knows like almost every word to that new album. Okay.

She's singing along to every fucking word. It's kind of creepy. Well, that's why Taylor Sue was getting the four million because it's a lot of. I don't like music I can't fuck to. White girls with a lot of both of women coming in the world. You know what I'm saying? You can maybe... You could definitely bunny hop to it for show shot.

Me and my wife, I don't think we would disrespect Taylor by the fucking tour of music. As long as you play, I don't care. Her and Travis Kelsey do it. For sure. She has a song about Travis Kelsey's dick. Yeah, it's about the album. I don't want to say that. No, no...

It's the hardest song on the album, for sure. Like... You would like, like... Well, because she's basically saying, you ain't got it. Like, all you girls out of the... there you ain't got to wait for marriage you gonna know he's the one when he fuck you and that's like that's literally the point am i did i misinterpret a lot of a lot of the best dick you'll ever get in your life is also from the most toxic dudes you'll ever meet in your life the whole allegation

i mean like you heard that you agree with that i think too this fits perfectly into her fantasy if you're a taylor swift fan and you uh saw her music videos for you belong with me she always wanted to be the football player's girlfriend and a hot cheerleader girl and and i think she's smartened up because She used to date like dudes that were on her level, like all these other like male pop singers and shit like that. Like actors and stuff. But when you have like two like really smart sort of like esoteric, which is her word type people,

it's like you're competing against each other. Instead, she found this meathead who's not going to talk back. He's obsessed with her. And I think that that balance is really like, that's what the conservatives want. They can be each other's trophy. You said Travis Kelsey is obsessed with her. Oh yeah.

Yeah. You didn't know they were in a relationship? I know they fuck with each other, but I don't even obsessed with it. They're engaged. Yeah, it's a whole thing. Yeah, don't that seem kind of fast? Or maybe they just like three years. Well, you're not going to run that fast.

I think it's a year. I think they've been together. Longer than a year. Longer than a year for sure. At least like three. It's not three, right? No, no, I don't think so. About three. Yeah.

He won that Super Bowl. So that she was there. Yep. And then last year they didn't win this year. So that's three seasons. Yeah. I liked his last girl. the black girl yeah so that's the thing that she was hot she was she was she was

yeah they've been ever two years that's what they say two years something cal and Nicole that's another reason why a lot of the fans are going against taylor because she intentionally did some anti-black jabs talking about i'm not a bad bitch i'm not a savage we know taylor oh i don't take that that way oh right back run it back not a what she said i'm not a bad bitch I'm not a savage in one of the songs that she's talking about. But she's talking about being happy in a long-term relationship and not wanting to be young Miami. She's not saying, I don't want to be a black woman. Because they're all bad bitches and savages.

But all his past public relationships have been with bad bitches, black girls. So that's why I was taking like that. See, this is why you don't want to get famous with a female fan base because they're going to take everything you say and dig into it and misconstruent intentionally for content. And then you try to diss Charlie XEX talking about, oh, what you say about me when the coke has you break. Man, she ethered that bitch. And I'm anti-Coke shaming. I don't like that because I feel like it's possible for someone to have a healthy relationship with Coke. Yeah, real, stop coke shaming.

Some people on this podcast are proof that that is very difficult to pull off. But I don't, she called her a Cokead, which. Hold on. What female say some savage shit? Is it Rihanna? Rihanna, Megan the Stallion. So is it? Beyonce.

I think it's a chance she's showing a shot at Rihanna. Well, it's Rihanna. Megan the Stallion and Beyonce most recently. She ain't cool. She's cool with Riri. She's cool with them. She's right cool with Rie. And she, Rie is living the exact same life as her.

She found a man that she loves, apparently, and they shacked up and had mad kids together. The only difference is that Rihanna stopped working, and Taylor's still working like a dog. She don't have kids yet either. Rihanna ain't stopped working. She stopped the music part of her working life. Oh, yeah, she still, she's an entrepreneur.

What's that called Fenty? She was in the smurf. Yeah, she was in the smurfs. Yeah, she got Fenty. She's in a movie. She was just in the smurves. But Taylor could do that. You know, she could fall back and just.

piss off. Taylor clearly has enough money that she never has to do anything again for the rest of the life. My question is this. She didn't have to work in the first place. Her dad is filthy rich. I mean, and I guess we've gotten to some of the reasons why, but overall, none of this would even be consequential to the Swifties. You could be, if you're a Swifty, it don't give a, if she's racist, you're racist. Like, whatever Taylor's doing, like the real Swifties are going to mirror whatever that is, right? But the thing is, is that there's a ton of Swifties who are super critical of Taylor at this point. Like, that's a very normal pose. And especially right now, the fan base

is kind of split down the middle because there's those who love this album and those who hate it. Because from what I'm seeing, the people that would suck the dirt out of her toes are saying that the album is whack. And that's kind of crazy. No, I'm not even fucking bottles of her farts if they could. Oh, Mike.

Taylor, Taylor, what she started, country originally. Yeah. Started and then kind of went pop. Yeah. Although she did have a song in 2000. She did. She had a rap song with, with T. Payne, where she was a T.T. Swiftie or something. I'm so gangster. I had no idea that that existed. No, I had no idea that existed. I seen it as a quote tweet the other day on Twitter, and my mind was fucking blown. It's like 20 years ago. She's like 19 wrapping her ass off. It's so weird.

Yeah, yeah. With T. Payne, Ad Livinger. I have no idea that existed. I think it was like when she was for, it was probably like her, like after her first. first album right around that time. The rappers she's done songs with, though, like also future Kendrick Lamar, Ice Spice. Damn. Arguably the top three rappers of all time. Pretty strong resume.

But I do feel like. Eyes Spice? Yeah. She's up to top three. You're at my top three? At least top five for being on his. Eskimo. Yeah.

Eyespice. She's hot, but she's still got to put some work ears. She's due to the game. She ain't at the top effort. Why Taylor got her showing out on his end? You said she did sorry with Drake or not? And Drake's striker? No.

No. Drake glazed her on his last project. No, spanker. I think he spanked her. I think he didn't. That's why he unfollowed her. Because he brought her out to OBO Fest, and then she left and he unfollowed her.

Because she probably didn't drop her. That's like, you know what I was in? That's flirting. Lyskin flirting. I believe he spanker before. I doubt it. I don't know.

Man, Drake, man, he's got to close that. He do. There's nothing to suggest that, and I don't think anybody believes that. I don't think he hit ice spicy and shit. I mean,

I feel like I'm familiar with a large majority. I'm familiar with a large majority of the Taylor Swift. This is out deep I am. I'm going to tell you guys something. And please, all the Taylor Swift fan accounts, please club lists. There is a segment of her fan base that calls themselves gailers.

And it's basically people who are convinced that she's a secret lesbian. And that anything that she does that presents her as a heterosexual is basically like, for her public image. Yes, a beard. And that anti-beard, I guess. Is that cosplay? And that Travis, Travis Kelsey, they're not in a real relationship.

This is a, and my girl went to a Taylor Swift listening party, like a fan event, and they were giving out bracelets for the gaylers. So you can identify the people who are involved with this. It's like Q&M for Taylor Swift. That's straight fan fiction, though, right? There's no reason to actually believe this. Yeah, it's insane. So basically, she's mirroring this thought for them,

but going along with it and giving them bracelets when they come out. I will cover the laws. So this bracelet, the Gayler bracelet, is the, But then also her fans make bracelets with like different words written out of the beads and then they give them to each other at the console. Do you want something to feed into this theory? Please. We would love to hear the female black perspective on Taylor Swift. It's really lacking in the dialogue these days.

Former boyfriend Joe Alwyn has recently been seen out with the girl from Euphoria. Which one? Which one? The one with the lips? Hunter Schaefer. She's trans. The trans one. What the fuck?

Yeah. And she kind of looks like a hotter, more fashion. will Taylor Swift, my opinion. I mean, the hotter is a very subjective. You're not going to get us to sign up for that one. What the fuck? Hunter Schaefer is killing in the Skaferrelli. That shit should be illegal.

That trans? What, just being trans? That just should be trans. They need to put an eye into buying a bar code or something on their phone. That ain't cool. Big Tater Munchy. Is that a bar code?

Mark of the beast. And that shit ain't straight. You see what Cindy Starr did to Chingi? Oh, yeah. They did. Designer was behind her all on stage dancing. He didn't, well, designer might have known. To be fair, all that Syngar did was she took a photo with Ching and then told the world that they hooked up and it was a total lie and basically ruined his career.

Yeah, I mean, so that's not when you say all she did, all she did is. Yeah. Slaughter. But I'm saying that they didn't do anything. It's not like they were even in a hotel room. That's the point. If they had taken a photo in a hotel room, then I'll kind of get it because it's. it would look crazy.

They took a photo like on stage. Yeah, but this is like pre, it was like earlier social media. This is Myspace era. It was like impossible to like negate a rumor. Like if there was a rumor, you just like didn't really have a way to get rid of it.

Now Chingi would put out a scathing two minute TikTok responding to it and the whole narrative would shift the next day. An Instagram story would be like, I don't even know that bitch. I don't even know her. She talked to 12 years later. Yeah. Would it don't matter no more.

You already narrowed his career. Yeah. So what happened? with Taylor Swift and other dude because that's like that's what I thought like last I looked up she was dating when he like like British from like England or something. Oh yeah. What's his name from the from a movie star? From the 1975 Matt Maddie Healy. Wasn't she supposed to be marrying him when they like a day? You want to know what he did? He so she starts dating him and then there's an old podcast clip that he was on not even that old but he's talking about Ice Spice and he refers to her as like an Alaska. She looked like a Eskimo or some shit. Like he's like. He's kind of clowning her for her looks, but not even, like, really clowning her. Like, it was some real light shit that if it was a hip-hop thing, nobody gave a fuck. But because Taylor Swift got the most sensitive, retarded, fucking woke female audience,

they immediately start tripping. He's a racist. Well, he called her like a chubby black girl or something. Yeah, well, I don't think he said black girl. I think he said chubby Eskimo. Well, here's the thing. I don't think it's Taylor Swift's not dating him for that. I don't know if she stopped dating for that.

That's what got Ice Spice to teach you. And that's why she did the song with Ice Spice. And that's why. She brought Ice Spice to all those NFL games And there's this really awkward footage of them hanging out And Taylor Swift is just like, you know Like a poet. She's got all these words at her disposal

And Ice Spice is like, I like soup. I like pasta. 30s. She's 35, I think. She's been married before? She's like 36. 36, 37. But here's the thing.

That was when Ice Spice lost her thickness. That was really when we got Ozempic Spice. I like soup. Yeah, I like soup. That ruined it. I don't know. I should have thought of something of something to think of like

something to get the point across that she's kind of slow. She's just staring at the camera. I don't think she has a lot of words at her disposal at any given time. She's the hottest girl with Down syndrome I've ever seen in my life. What?

She got Down syndrome. Hypothal. Hypothal. Hypothia. Who are you talking about? High five got Down syndrome. I wait, who you tell about it? Well, I don't do her like that.

I don't know. You ain't got everywhere. You got everywhere. I get to interview her. She's hot. She's hot. I'm, like, I've been obsessed with her forever. Like,

there might be a touch of the Downs, I mean, like, you ain't caught the flight up there looking for her yet. Well, that's like, I'm not like Dahmer obsessed.

What she from? New York. The Bronx, the Bronx, the BX. Okay, honestly, she obviously doesn't have,

like, the fact that I have to qualify, this is insane. Um, she doesn't have Down syndrome, but there's just like been hell of memes and people saying that for a long time. She doesn't have Down syndrome, but she might have the same IQ as a person with...

Or at least fetal alcohol syndrome. Come on, bust it out. Buss it out. Oh, my girl, Ice Spice. Yeah, Ice Spice. We love you, Ice Spice. The first piece of content that Ice Spice ever did in her entire career was for No Jumper. Look it up.

Look it up. That's amazing. Black Dave went to her neighborhood and did a video with her. And I almost didn't post it because I felt like this is for sure just Dave trying to get some pussy. I did not see the talent. And to be fair, her music sucked at that point. It got a lot better like a few months later. Like, God, keep it a stat. Yeah, she didn't have that flow or nothing. I swear to God. She didn't have the cool frizzy hair either. She had like a fake long hair wig. She's hard. I'm not going to say that I've never

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I would like to say, now that we're done talking about Taylor Swift, salute to the man himself, one of my favorite rappers in the last 10 years. Pooh Scheisty has made his way home after doing something like four years in the box. And I'm happy to see him back. And I hope that he has not lost what made his flow. special the first time around because we've seen that happen plenty of times dudes get locked up and they start rapping weird so uh welcome back poochistie he came out and immediately got in cardi b's comment yeah he was i know and i was wondering like was that what he was kind of planning all along

he said he got in carty b started shooting a shot right away he said i don't give a fuck about the offset relationship i'm shooting my shot at cardi b well she's pregnant right now so is that a thing yeah with a fruqueque too no stepan diggs got a lot going on he like shit that ain't like the last I said, I'm trying to be stepped. He's got four kids on the way. He's got her pregnant. And he's getting his booty hole fisted? What the, what the, you don't know about that?

He got his balloon. You don't know? Gay rumor out of the bottom book. That ain't confirmed. No, Cardi B, who has notoriously been a homopophoop throughout her career, is pregnant from a booty bandit. Whoa. Is this confirmed?

You're not going to say allegedly? Listen, we could do some research, but I'm going to ask Chad JBT's here. Stephman digs. So why is I'm saying this digs? I did see the video of the god. saying that he had his friends beat him up after he didn't want to go, you know, with his advances. But Cardi then in the argument said that that was fake,

so I don't know what to believe. Yeah, I don't know. I forget, like one of her, his exes, yeah, there are rumors and social media claims that question his sexuality or suggest conspiracy theories, but nothing verified or substantiated by reliable sources. I mean, what I saw, and that's been a big thing from Nikki Muniz, that she's been roasting Cardi B saying that, like,

oh, you're pregnant by a gay dude. She has a baby by a baby. Yeah, she's the last person that can speak on anybody's choice in men. You see how she just cooked up that ether real quick? Like, invalidate your man. I mean, but she really, like, Nikki has a track record of, like, harboring abusers. She's Epstein Island. She's a human embodiment.

Epstein Island. You're paying for niggas weddings and shit, putting money on her books. Epstein Island. From her brother, daddy. Yeah. She got a collection. She got a collection. I think of hers where she got.

from her younger years she was touched or something that's what they put out by her allegedly her mom didn't uh her protected from her dad Nikki got arrested yeah by her dad allegedly know that really well but it kind of made sense though because you know she used to just like a stud you know what I'm sure so she probably that made her want to put on them clothes and not show her figure if she didn't got touched now I remember Nikki mined when she had a normal body back in the day in Queens she looks like a regular girl and now she got the the wildest like Mariah Mills style body yeah she's I mean she's a Barbie, she told us a long time ago what time it was, and I guess that's not really, like, frowned upon.

The Barbie that I grew up playing with was rather trim. Well, yeah, she's like, I think standards of, uh, you got a kid, you got a kid. That ass done changed. You just play with Barbie a kid? Yeah, a little bit, yeah. A little bit. Just playing with Ken, no big deal. I remember my mom walked in.

Yeah, I said, I played with Ken. My mom walked in on me and I had created an orgy with the Ninja Turtles and the Barbies. Oh, yeah. I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like,

I was like, I was like, the Ninja turtles I put dresses on someone like it was me and my friend were just fucking around but she was bummed. Let me get out.

Hey, put the toys up at the time over. What? She said, have the toys up at the truck. No more, no more. What are you doing?

My mom is, uh, emotionally available to the point where I think that instead of shaming me, she just like, kind of just like went to a room and thought about

was a fruitcake. And I actually, at least one time in my childhood, I heard my mom having a phone conversation with her friend about if I was gay or not. Really? But she said no. That doesn't sound gay. No, it was unrelated to that.

Because the Ninja Turtles beaten down to dudes. No. What the... She said no. Yo. Is that what you was just doing? Listen to me? Yeah, yeah, I was.

I was just listening to my mom. Well, I heard her talking about me. He's like, what the fuck she about to say? I don't plug the phone. You know what? Fuck me up, though? When I was in Boston, you know how when you're in like a city, there's always like the manhole covers with like the smoke coming out of it?

Well, number one, my kid is like really interested in cigarettes. She just thinks it's crazy when she sees somebody smoking because she knows it's bad and she'll just be like, Dad, that guy's smoking a cigarette even though it's like the million times. She says it to me like a thousand times, but she still points it out. Because he's killing himself. I mean, she just thinks it's crazy. And she thinks it's super crazy like her grandma smokes cigarettes. She just can't, she can't wrap her head around the fact that there's something bad and

that people that she knows do it. But anyway, so I see the manhole cover with all the smoke coming out of it. And I recently had a conversation with her about the Ninja Turtles saying like they live in the sewer or whatever. And I said to her, I'm like, you see that smoke coming out of that manhole cover?

That's the Ninja Turtle smoking cigarettes down in the sewer. And she just looks at me and goes, Dad, the Ninja Turtles aren't real. Which I also have had to tell her. Because sometimes I tell her crazy stories about different things. Like the other day I was telling her a bedtime story about Pokemon. and she's like, Dad, Team Rocket's not real, right?

I'm like, no. You got to roll it back before you. She needed that verification, though, because Team Rocket could be kind of an intimidating presence if we're being honest. Well, they are. They're kind of scary. Yeah.

I used to be off the candy cigarettes and all this in. Hell yeah. Off the ice cream truck. That's where we came. Bro, what happened to that? I go to a gas station frequently that has those. Candy cigarette? I bought them, like, one time and brought them in.

I forget. A couple years ago? Yeah, I got in trouble for smoking them before. Oh, yeah, yeah. I stay with me, going to my leg, hanging off my leg, like that's funny. That's funny. I feel like just cigarettes were way more normalizing culture, obviously. Like, when I was growing up, my dad who didn't do no type of drugs and, like, would

have an occasional beer would smoke, like, at the dinner table in the house. Real madman style. And this is, like, normal. This is, like, I guess, the way the 80s were. Or even smoke on airplanes? Even when I was, like, 12 or whatever, you would go into the, you would go into the house. the Denny's near my house and it would be like there was a smoking section and a regular section, but it was like obviously basically the same and you could just smell cigarettes while

you're eating your burger. Yeah, when I was a kid, old men used to be smoking in a donut shop in the morning. I miss it, honestly, yeah. I know this probably ain't taking place in New Hampshire, right? And I noticed it, for sure, it ain't happening a date. But my mom used to send me to the story with a note to get her some cigarettes. They used to give it to me. Oh, yeah, back in the day.

Smoking a cigarette in the house is wild. Hey, yo, my mom, I never sent you to the store to get on cigarettes. the note. Yeah. No, for sure. And I was younger. I'm like, I was that alone. I had to have a talk with my mama to stop smoking cigarettes. She had got off of cigarettes.

But, no. My mom used to love coos when I was younger. I used to love a pack of coos for sure. When I was 17, I'd be visiting my grandma in New York and I go, I'd get cigarettes because I was already buying cigarettes for myself and she would smoke Benson. How was you? I was like 17, 16, 17. Smoking cigarettes already.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I started to smoke. I was like 12, 13. And she was, she was smoked Benson and hedge. One hundred ultralights. That's what my mom smoked. Vision and I work. Yeah.

Benson and Hedges. That's crazy. Irish cigarette or something. Yeah, it was like the weirdest cigarette order. It was so exotic. Yes. Damn,

Mudge. Teal color. It's weird that there's so many, like, off-brand cigarette brands that, like, like, one of Lennas uncles smokes denim cigarettes. Denim? That's the brand.

Denim. How do you get into your preference? No cigarette. Where do you even find that? I never even see. I've seen it in the store. Is it like the person that introduced you to cigarettes, whatever you smoke?

It's also just some old ass Armenian shit, probably, like it's probably normal to him. But every day, every time I see him, I just look at it like, how the fuck you're smoking down? I used to love a smell of blacky mouse when I was younger.

Hold that, Mike in? I think that the, he said he loved, he looks like the smell of black and miles? He iced, like when I was younger. I hate that to this day. I used to like the smell when I was a kid.

Like, you smelled good to me for some reason. Like, when I'm doing an interview with someone and they're smoking black of miles, It's definitely a different level of disgust in my brain at that time because they smell so strong and just weird and kind of broody smelling. Say they 10 cigarettes. Yeah, right.

Yeah, that's a strong. One of my first college roommates a girl, Brittany, I'm sorry, I love you. When I would come home, she would be smoking a black on the porch like you're going through. It's a girl. That's down bad moments. A girl doing that is crazy. Smoking a black. Your body is not meant for that.

You got to pay rent and shit. You're living in L.A. She's dressed out. 18. Did she used to freak them? I don't know. Freakable. This is where you like pinch it and shit, right?

Yeah, you pinch it like you roll the loose up of tobacco so you can like, like, like, like, it's going to hit more. Like if you just take it out the pack and smoke it's going to be like a tight smoke, you know, like if you freak it, you know what I'm saying? Loosing it up, losing up the tobacco, you can really hit it. But if you don't freak it, then it'll last for you a good two hours. Can I freak it? Yo, Donnie, I got a question.

I got some, some weed from Donnie yesterday. Some, some, he rolled me some splits. I'm not going to lie. It knocked me on my fucking ass last night. Like the most fucked up I've ever got from smoking a spliff was last night right before I went to bed. I honestly kind of thought that I was going to pass out in my head on the wall going back into the crib. Like, there's nothing special about the weed that you got? No.

I don't understand. No, I think is it a tobacco maybe, like the amount of tobacco? I think the same amount as normal. I eat cigarettes an ounce for him. Oh, what do you smoke? You smoke blend? Yeah. Turquoise American spirit.

You put it in your weed? Yeah. Oh shit. Yeah. Is that grimy? That's like you smoking blend. I'm like the only like, probably me and my other homies that I just smoke pear green. Like my homies, they be blend out.

Put it in a blunt. They be, yeah, but still like... A blunt is the tobacco and nicotine. Loose leaf is, it smokes light like a paper almost. It does, huh? Yeah, so like I don't like the strong tobacco. Like even if you get like a grabber leaf. So it's just like you already got the strong tobacco.

paper and then you putting more you putting blend on top of that oh that's what choked me to death i i feel like i added years to my life when i switched from backwoods to smoking these though like it's so much less of the gnarly shit dude i'll say this adam i took a barn rip of your blend a couple times and every time i hit it it made me super lightheaded like uncomfortably and this is coming from me i mean i'm gonna be real and and i know that it's not just me because I smoked one of the older slips I had, like my last one, then I went and I did an hour and a half long walk, then I came back and I smoked one of those,

and it fucking rocks me. I had to go to bed. But in a good way, though, is that the desire to take at that point? I still felt dizzy, like, this morning. Like, it just, it felt like it stuck with, I don't know what it was. Cut back on the tobacco.

Lower the tobacco. He's saying it's the same amount. I don't know. Because those cones that we had are bigger, so maybe it's just, yeah, maybe it was more. Yeah, maybe it was more. I don't know.

Okay, I also, I think let's talk about our first real topic of the day. Let's click that one. Little Dirk being accused of trying to get O Block members killed for not Sly and for Vaughn. This is a new allegation coming from the FBI that is pretty mind-blowing because, you know, it's one thing to accept that Little Dirk was sending killers across the country to go get at Cuando Rondo and his boys, right? That's one thing because they killed King Vaughan. so it's understandable, I guess, that you would be mad at them.

But the FBI is now saying that in addition to that, they basically have snitches who are claiming that Dirk tried to send Booney Mo to O'Block to kill Monaduke or kind of like whoever, because he felt like they weren't acting, like they weren't going after Vaughn's killers as quickly as he would have hoped, which is kind of insane because it's like what you, so you expect these guys from O'Block who, Let's be real, are probably mostly broke.

You expect them to take the charge in terms of getting Cuando Rondo or Lil Tim or whoever knocked off. Like, this is just like a wild new accusation that kind of goes totally in a different direction than the stuff that we knew about them previously. They're trying to like weaponize the slide for Von Meme essentially. And that whole movement on social media. Yeah.

Also, all this all this allege, right? But just like kind of like, off the wall, I'm going to just throw a hypothetical out there. Let's just say if this was true and Dirk was mad at them, it'll be a reason for him to be mad. Obviously, they probably had the necessities they needed to slide for, you know what I'm saying, King Vonn and they wasn't. But the thing is, it's so out of town.

If you want to go find Covando Rondo, you either got to go to where he's staying at in California, which look once Dirk sent people on a mission in California it's like you're going to fly people out you got to get rental cars you got to do all and then you're still going to get caught your entourage go where you go anyway right so they could manipulate the how you want to say it whatever because you're paying for your entourage to go places that gang bangers don't do murder for hire we we slide for our homies for free so they need to kill that they need to have a gang expert go to go to that trail when they do go uh I I would what I ain't Englewood families ain't paying on angle of families to go do nothing to nobody.

And they're the ops anyway. They kill our homie, not mine, ours. But think about it if you're Dirk where it's like, obviously you're way too famous to go kill somebody on your own. You have to enlist people to do it if you want to get it done. Him like going to his own community though and like trying to get people knocked off over there doesn't make any sense. But that's the thing. He's a BD. He's not from O Block.

Exactly. People like to think of Chicago being BDs and GDs, but the. reality is is that they are from very different sections and especially since dirt got locked up, we've seen numerous different rifts between different factions in, in between Lamron and O'Block and everything like that. And I'm not going to lie, a little birdie came to me in recent memory and told me that there is a famous person, let's just say a BD from Chicago, that Dirk is believed in the streets to have been involved with getting him knocked off. off. And if true, this is one of the most explosive accusations in Chicago history.

And when someone told me it was the kind of thing where I just didn't even really think about it that much because I'm just like, that sounds so crazy. I don't even know what to do with it. This validates that a lot. This makes me think, oh, shit, that person probably wasn't just talking shit. So I don't know. I mean, this is some crazy new shit. Like how much other shit? And if they really got people just like telling everything on Dirk, I mean, we're never going to see this fool again. But from what they're saying like, oh, it's so like in YouTube. So it just seems like, like to me, it seems like their case is weak. So with their case being weak, they just come in.

With new allegations. New allegations and all this is allegations. And Dirk lawyer is like, okay, well, y'all saying this, what are you saying? I try to come with the proof of this. That can work out. Only thing it's seeing like they got that really is kind of sticking is a text message telling somebody that, hey, man,

don't do nothing on my credit card. Everything else they come in with like his lawyers and like it's eating it up. Like man, we're like, all right, that's just smoke, man. That's just talk. Like, where's the evidence at? I feel like that sounds good until people start telling on it. Well, they've also, there's also evidence that have, they've claimed to have that we haven't seen yet. Like, they claim to have surveillance of the conversation at the burger stand post,

drill, whatever you feel me. They literally, that's, they claim to have this. we haven't seen it. We still don't know who Cocoa number foe is, you feel me, and how that plays into the whole situation. And, like,

honestly, free Dirk, but the, the thing in the court of public opinion hurting him the most is him making that song Beverly Hills. And, like, essentially,

well, rapper, don't rap about Beverly Hills or Calabasas or Malibald. Well, he ain't rap about Beverly Hills. The, the, he rapped about,

the, I don't know, Dirk been locked up. Beverly Center? No, a shooting that occurred in Beverly Hills, and that's where, the shooting occurred at, you feel

me? So even if he wasn't talking about that, it just don't look good for him. It had to be. Yeah, these are the things that, well, and it dropped right around the same. It dropped like a few months beforehand, I believe. And how long Dirk been locked up? In about over a year. Yeah. Yeah. So let me ask your question. Did I hear right, like they had some surveillance, like somebody who's coming through the alley and came around and started busting on them dudes? They, there was at a gas station and gassing up. But the fools are all masked up and

shit when they start shooting. But they can't throw alley, man, that's somebody, like, probably from L.A., bro, that's familiar. Like, you know what I'm saying? Well, that's kind of part of the allegation as well. Like, if, like, and I'm not... Well, Chicago, they can know how to tip through alleys and come out of cuts and shit in L.A. You know what I'm saying? This is true. And I, look, I don't think Dirk did it. I really don't.

You know, free Dirk, 1,000%. You're crazy. I mean, it just doesn't look good when you're, like, these are the reasons why people would think that he, like, why he's even being held accountable or even this trial's going on to begin with it. Listen, free Dirk for show, but the idea that he is not guilty is slowly becoming harder and harder for me to wrap my head around.

And he got caught up. I mean, all y'all thought Dave was, um, guilty, right? David? Listen, I never made a public statement about that. And I still am having a hard time wrapping around my head. My head around David isn't guilty. You said that in age well. Well, David, he got romantic homicide, talking about killing abroad and putting her in the trunk.

And something that really happened. For sure. And that alone is not enough to put a murder on somebody. And this is a sad. There's been hell of legislation about this. Like the whole Bobby Schmurter thing, they use that song as evidence against them to get GS-9 indicted. You feel me?

They use that as evidence. In California, they can't use your music against you unless you're talking about what exactly happened. Yeah. I mean, if they don't use that against, if David goes to trial and they don't use that shit against him, that is a crime against humane. sanity because how the fuck could you not use song like

if you watch Trable or also saw a video breaking down all the lyrics I mean this is just it would be it should be illegal to not use that to not show that to the jury they need to know about that shit well I mean but he ain't even been charged right still but and again that doesn't mean that he's

necessarily that don't show that he innocent to me just because you ain't came out publicly and didn't the police make a statement and say that he's not a suspect of interest He did. They did. They raided his whole house,

took a ton of shit out of his house. But apparently they didn't find enough to actually put charges on them. One thing I've been hearing a lot is that they don't have a cause of death for her yet. And so that's a big problem. They just don't have like, they don't know how she died yet. And so once that's established,

there's a lot of rumors that maybe she had a drug overdose and that they just stashed the body there, which sounds insane. Like, when you want to put the body like literally anywhere besides the trunk of your own car? Why would you chop it? So that's fake news then. Somebody just came out the other day on social media and said the cause of death.

I could have sworn some supposed to have been like an overdose or something like that. I don't think they know the cause of death yet. That dude that I knew his name that did the autopsy. He's a nobody with that shit. He only been doing it for three years, bro. He don't know what he's doing. What do he say was the cause of death? Overdose?

He is inconclusive. He don't have a cause. And they already released a body to the family. So what the births? What that death certificate? And let's be specific, not to be graphic, but not a body remains. Because it was separate remains. Yeah.

Not only decomposed, but severed, you feel me? Like, they didn't even find, I don't even know if they found the whole body, to be honest with you. I don't believe they have. I mean, this is, you got to watch your kids, man. Because it feels like she was running around from home. She was doing all kinds of shit. And her parents were not all that concerned.

They're not working that hard to find her. And I think that's the whole point. She was, she was faking her age and shit, though. They was saying they thought she lied and said she went to the USC or something. Yeah, but that's so. How mature is our body? But there's so much to suggest that he was 100% aware of the fact that. She's underage.

And that they knew that this was a big... Honestly, David to me seems like he was probably like so inexperienced and mentally immature that he probably didn't really like understand how bad him being in a relationship with an underage girl was going to fuck up his career, especially because it's not like it was a well-kept secret. He was on Twitch streaming with her. If you see all these Reddit posts, all these people in his comments, there was like, his fans were like joking around about him being a pedophile and stuff, which granted he's young.

He's like, you know, 18, 19, 20 as he's becoming famous. So, like, maybe they didn't think it was that serious. They probably didn't know that the girl was, like, 12. Like, you know, maybe they thought that there was just a year or two age difference. But either way, I mean, it feels like he was just like a total idiot with no real world experience. Like, no friends to tell him, like, this is going to fuck your whole life up. And it's like, but they got a matching tattoo that shh. Yeah, like.

So, like, this dude, man, is like, look. I'm surprised. He free, bro. I'm, I've seen. Like, I've seen a clip of him where he was talking about, like, he, like, either fantasized playing a role or writing a book of, like, a detective who was, um, at a point of time was turning into a, um, a psychopathic killer and then turned back into the detective and he had to solve the murder.

Yeah. I was just like, just even this pattern of thinking. I'm like, this dude off. Like, like, what? Yeah, sounds like some Jeffrey Donald. I'm like, I'm like, are you a detective? But so I guess when, when it strikes midnight, you turn into this serial killer

then after you finish killing you turn back into the detective you solve the crime Dr. Jack on high but nobody ever goes down and he publicly, I'm just looking at this dude out of once I seen that shit I was like he fucked me, he messed my head up I was like, you know what I was a movie? I don't want to

You know what's the one thing that I feel like this is kind of like this is evening things out a little bit because it's like in hip hop you kind of have like two different sides you got like the streets and then you got the weirdos and this is like a epitomized by when you look at Florida and like back in the era where no jumper kind of spawned where you'd have like X and ski mask and then you'd have like Kodak and it's kind of like the same area and you get the street kids and then you got the weird kids.

The weird kids as much as they have been viral over the years, the little pumps, the XXXX and Stasian's the juice worlds, etc. No murders. No bodies. Nothing like that. Yes, you got, you know, you got a six, nine getting locked up. But that's more on the street side of things. even if you look weird, he's like hanging on with these gang members, etc. Now it's like we finally got a weirdo rap murder.

Hold on. No, he's a singer, right? He's a singer, right? David? Yeah, he's a singer. He's not a rapper. I'm going to be real. I didn't even listen to his music yet.

I want to check it out, but I ain't really heard him yet. You've probably heard him on TikTok reels. You didn't even realize you heard the song type of. Yeah, he's like went viral off a tick. What's the name of the song before Romance or comma? He had another one that was like his being. I don't care. Yeah, that one.

That one. Yeah, he was. I think the reason why an arrest hasn't been made specifically is because there's obviously a lot more people that are complicit in this, including the entire community. They were talking about kids getting paid off all this year. You know what I'm saying bribes and all that. His managers, people are working with them and stuff. Who knows what they knew, you know?

And the fact remains, he was on tour when that car turned up. So, like, he did not act alone. But she'd been missing since last year, February. Correct. Yeah. Then it came up the fifth. like they what found a card the six is her birthday then the seventh they popped the trunk

because of the smell at the tow yard yeah literally what happened she been she been she probably been and I think she's been dead since August and they found her in September August this year so like oh no but that's like further proof of the fact that he was very inexperienced and didn't have any fucking common sense

because literally any of us if we had to dispose of a body could think of a better plan than putting in your trunk and then get in the car towed. Well, now this says that he's hired a investigator to figure out why or how her remains ended up in his car. So he's claiming to not have any idea by any of it.

Hey, bro. He got a free. Good PR. Oh, God. How is he free when your car is abandoned, collecting tickets and they finally called to get the shit told, you ain't wondering where your car at? It was in front of his house, I guess,

and then they towed it from in front of the house. But maybe he's so... It was down the street from his own. Maybe he's so inexperienced. and stupid they don't think that a body is going to smell enough to smell it outside of a Tesla. I think somebody in his entourage, did he? Might be somebody else.

All this was playing. He already knew all this was like, all this is planned. He was aware. It's hard for us. He might be enjoying this. How can we put ourselves in the head of somebody that's so deranged that he's trying to fuck on little girls regardless and have all entire relationships? Of course, he's going to do some weird ass shit

and get caught up. He's chopping up bodies. We can't even like fathom that level of depravity. regardless if we done some crazy shit ourselves. That's like another fucking level right there, dude. I don't think you know her age like that, though, bro. Because if you're from Lake Ellsino, how'd you go out of sight like that? You go assume this person is older.

I mean, maybe not at first, but like, but I mean, he knew her age. He knew. What kind of knew over a 13 year old is like mistakeable for an 18 year old. Like, you know, I can imagine like a smaller age difference being like you might not know, but like, bro, like 11, 12, like what are we talking about? Hey, but already, you heard her when she was arguing. with the essays next door. Yeah, that was kind of wild.

Like, she seemed like one of the, the fast little home girls like, for sure. That's like, for sure. She acted way older than what she is. They're saying like, why are you talking like a black?

Why are you talking like a block? You're not black. Yeah, she kept saying the inward. Yeah, that's so funny how there's this little gang arc right there. That's the only gang connection to this whole thing. Yeah, we ain't black over here. Are you saying the inner?

Are you talking like, you're black? Yo, but I'm not going to lie like, so at Complex Con like, like two years ago, I think it was, Rimo and the kid, one track who was doing some content for us at the time,

they had a whole conversation with this fool, David, and like, I'm kind of bummed because it's like, God, how epic would it have been if I had like a fire interview with this fool? Obviously, you can't get them all. You don't know who's going to end up being a killer, but man,

you got to catch them all. And I asked Rima, I got to catch him all. Pokemon goes your favorite game. I asked Rimo, I'm like, yo, do you think that like he, like was he trying to do an interview at the time? And Rimo was like,

yeah, honestly, he's like, mention it to you because he just seemed like a random. He didn't really have no motion or anything. He was paying $20,000 a month for that house he was living in. That's what I'm saying. And if you look at his numbers on everything, it's pretty impressive. But also, like, I'm looking at his Instagram and it's like hundreds of thousands of likes

and then like 200 comments. I'm just looking at it like, nah, this shit ain't real. I think they were faking until he made it. He made it in a weird way. He's not international tours, though. So it might be real. Yeah, but once you get that industry battery in your back, all of a sudden you're sitting with Zane low.

you got 100,000 fake likes on your Instagram, they juicing your numbers on the music videos and stuff. They will make you seem way bigger than you are. And I'm not going to lie. I feel like I've said this before, but I'm really learning and starting to understand how many people are faking their fucking numbers in the industry in podcasting in music.

I've always kind of known, but I've just like found out about a lot more shit recently. And even if anybody watches my Sneco interview that I did on stream the other day under the live section, section of the nudgember page he put me on to some shit about basically like how buying buying live viewers on twitch and shit that's that's the only thing like what else you're going to do there's no other way for you to stand out in that directory because that puts you on the front of the

panel and everybody else is doing it so you got to do it too i'm like what he said you you sign up with an indian guy and you pay him 10% of what you make and then he juices your streams on everything but but the youtube that doesn't make sense though right because youtube doesn't prioritize algorithms based on your live viewers. That is true, but also like he's kind of making the point. Like you need fake numbers on your content so you can get bigger guess. Yeah.

Which like, you know, there are streamers that I know of who I think that they fake their numbers. And when I think about it, they get a bunch of big guess. And they probably like, you know, people go on Kaisanao.

It's like the happiest day of their life. For sure. Why? Because he has huge numbers. Now, I mean, if there's one of, there's two ways to get those numbers.

You could be really popular or you could buy the fake numbers, but celebrities just want promotion. And for artists, they need it for like booking placements at festivals and this and that. If you have a lot of monthly listeners or if you have a lot of engagement on social media, that'll be the difference between you getting booked or not. You might have to fake one part of your career.

You fake your YouTube views so you still get booked for the festivals and the shows. And you do those shows, it looks good. But like you have to fake one part of your career to support the other part of your career. And I only feel comfortable talking about this because I'm somebody who's never done this. not because I'm solely starting to feel like what the fuck am I I missing out because because as an artist is really frustrating when you know it's not mine am I sure you sure is

as an artist it becomes frustrating when you know that you've impacted more than what the numbers are reflecting that people are using as a metric at a specific time you could have sold 50,000 copies of the tape or even had hundreds of thousands of downloads on dat piff and been super relevant but by the time the spotify era came around uh you're You know what I'm saying? You didn't even reach streaming services until a certain year so you don't have as many monthly listeners. So that becomes artists feel compelled to pad their numbers to keep up with that shit.

So it's like, has it been something that- But that's why people have hell of monthly listeners and followers but can't sell hard tickets to their own show. Hey, so ain't in a way like people be manipulating, like streams or sales because they bundle it with merch? Yes. Well, I mean.

But they don't count that as like a bot stream or nothing. It's still cheating, but they don't count that as, fake. Basically everybody does that now. Travis Scott is a pioneer. Well, yeah, and at this point, they've actually changed their policy multiple times. Billboard's changed it from, like, we don't. First, they were like, it's all good, and people were getting absurd amount of sales and first week sales because of bundle packages. Then they removed it, and then they allowed it again, but just in certain circumstances. That was one of Nikki Minaj's original beats, right? She had beef with Travis, Stormy and Kylie,

selling those sweaters. They were doing like a makeup collab. or like a it was like a Kylie Cosmetics product that also counted as an Astro World sale and that's like the era of Astro World doing whatever like 700, 800K in its first week which

you probably never see a rap album hit that again. Well yeah they were tripping on Juice World for bundling and shit with even for smaller releases they were trip on it. It's crazy. But that goes, remember when you two like the band YouTube? They put that shit on everybody's phone. Yeah, everybody fucking whatever whatever phone it was or

I think it was like any iTunes had it automatically downloaded. It's just crazy that that didn't become like a normal thing. They did that one time and then never did it again. Everybody complained from it. Yeah, they got a hell of backlash from it. So we could say, say,

Sajiboy, he started clickbait, right? Because that's how he manipulated on YouTube. We put different people. Way before YouTube, he was... With the title and then it'd be his music when they click it, type of it? Yeah, exactly. Well, I missed the days of the YouTube algorithm being like hell of stupid and easy to fool.

Like, I remember there was a BMX rider from L.A. named Chris Brown. and I would upload his videos and they would get a huge surge of views at first because they would go into the Chris Brown algorithm and then but it would turn off like they would figure it out pretty quickly like oh this is not Chris Brown and all the comments would be that this is not

Chris Brown the singer and then like I know I know a BMX team that went to like Brazil or Argentina or some shit they filmed the video for a week they put the video out on YouTube the thumbnail literally just a woman's ass she got like two million views that wouldn't work anymore i feel like i feel like that mic could work still no you're not

allowed to put a woman's ass like it was like an ass like in a thong like like the the filmer just filmed like a girl wearing like a g string like walking on the street and they they had a quick clip of it in the video but then they and this is before you could pick your own thumbnails i think so they put it at the right exact second in the video so that they could make it the thumbnail it worked like crazy they got mad views and then that was it you know it's fire like when um World Star Hip Hop before they had their own player, they used to take from the YouTube player. So if you got a video on a World Star,

it would account for your fucking views. Really? So like when our battle rap channel first started cracking off, everything was going on at World Star and it padded shit like insane. Man, that was the golden era as far as like the lawlessness of YouTube. Yeah, when you could fake everything?

Yeah. Upload porn. Upload the new South Park episode. Oh, yeah. That's like 2004, my memories of that. Um, okay. Speaking of sales, I think it's pretty remarkable that young thugs saw a 52K

given that he previously said that he bought 50,000 fake album sales for Gunna. That makes the fact, or maybe 54K, either way, it's like the fact that he apparently didn't care enough to buy sales for his own project kind of shows how much he cared about Gunna sales at that time, slash the fact that, you know, maybe there's a little bit too much scrutiny on him right now. Have you guys still been listening to the thug album or was this like a one-listen thing for you? I listened to it in preparation to come here and talk to them about it and nobody else listened to it.

So I wasted my time. Sounds like a no-jumper episode, yeah. Nah, I listened to it the day it dropped and it was like honestly, I really tried to put myself through a different lens when I heard it. And it was kind of difficult because I always like, I tried to, listen to it the same way when I was like Young Thug was one of my favorite rappers and just didn't have these stigmas attached to it. I don't know. There's nothing that really stuck out.

I think because his voice has changed so much, a lot of the things I liked about Young Thug and just what made his style him rapping in cursive and hitting these like weird high notes that don't make sense and like warbling that he used to. Yeah, the stylistic eccentricities he used to have don't really, he's just kind of talking and it's not really hitting the same for me. So snitching aside. white face aside yeah white face the white face is the funniest part that's like binich thug he would totally have done white face back in the day it's just weird how that doesn't seem like it has

anything to do with anything else on the project like you'd think that given that cover that there'd at least be like hints well i guess the first song he says the hard are a bunch of times which is very racially charged but yeah i was kind of surprised that there wasn't a little bit more of a through line from the cover to the content that been said like i have listened to it a bunch of times but it's not really something that's drawing a lot of my attention when I'm driving in the car. It just kind of fades into the background. There are a bunch of songs I like. I still have to listen to it and add the songs that I really like to the playlist of my favorite songs of 2025.

Because, you know, some albums like the new Taylor Swift album, basically hits from beginning to end from my perspective. Not a skip on it. This one majority skips. But there might be like five or six songs that are going to end up. on my playlist. I don't think he's in the headspace to make music, so he should just kick he instead of keeping out bunk-ass shit.

Not for real. And then for one, I think he might be on pro. He might have to get judge tested. A lot of nigs be hard when they do music, so he might not be in, he can't get in that same zone. He can't get all that little sound effects. But I thought they said he couldn't talk about violence and shit like that.

He definitely was discussing violence. But I think it's more like gangs. Yeah, specific, right? Yeah, he's not supposed. We can't say YSO are any references to that. That can't. He's artists. That's dumb.

he probably got that stipulation took out like that's why I've been calling him neutered young thug this whole time this might be dumb but that's what he agreed to yeah it is what he agreed to for like a certain 19 year plea deal yeah so it's like he's like a neutered version of himself thematically and I predicted

months ago that this was going to affect like his music and it definitely has if you look at all of his album covers him having white face like he made like you said he alluded to it a few times like when he had a blouse on his album cover where he only alluded to that in a couple of little bars. It's never like a prominent theme.

Just like when he had all the people that made up the one album, you know what I mean? Like he had all the people stand together and there was a wide angle drone shot. That was the, what's the album you put out like that in 2019? Like his one of his most. Flime thing where by on the couch?

No, it was a different one. He literally like arranged thousands or hundreds of people to like form like a formation and took like a super wide angle shot. And it was like they all formed like a, his face, a vision of his face. Is that a lot of very creative album covers? Yeah.

Which when you compare to a lot of rappers, their album covers are usually just like a picture of them looking cool. His creative direction from the jump has been fire. And that's why, like, to me, that's what always stood out. That's why I never judged him for like, okay, like he's dressing weird. He has painted nails this or that. It never made him less gangster to me. So David Russell is in the chat saying that I am insane for thinking that Taylor Swift is

better than Young Thug, which, for the record, lifetime, obviously I've listened to far more Young Thug than Taylor Swift. That being said, from my perspective, Taylor Swift put out an album with no skips, a 12-song project. And on the other hand, Young Thug put out a project that, I mean, it sold 50K first week. Taylor Swift sold $4 million first week. I mean, it would seem like the public has kind of decided as well that Taylor Swift made the better album. And also, almost everybody would agree that this isn't the first, second, third, fourth, or even fifth, best thug album of all times.

It's a huge disappointment for thug fans. Really, even most of the real thug fans think that this album sucks. So, I mean. And sold way less than his last release. I think 79 was the first week's house. And granted, Taylor Swift, a lot of people are unhappy with her project as well. But unfortunately for you, David Russell,

you don't seem to understand that a person, even a hip-hop commentator can have objective opinions about music, including both hip-hop and pop music. And let's be real, Justin Bieber had a way harder album than Taylor Swift. Let's go with that as well. Yeah, Justin Bieber put on a way better project than Thoth, too. That's a better comparison, though. Taylor, because they're both dudes.

Rob-back Hurricane Chris. Beaver and Tyler Swift a better comparison. Nah, Bieber is, I feel like damn near closer to the hip-hop category. Like he's a black nigga like you is, but. Type shit, you feel me like? If he was black, you would not count him as black. Who? Beber?

Babyaver? Yeah. Why not? I mean, do you count Jaden Smith is black? I mean, I guess like the color of his skin is black. But I don't think you're not really giving him like a hood pass, right? No, but I'm just, but I'm saying he for show like fuck with like hip hop super heavy. He fucked with the culture.

Look at the pink panther. For sure, I was younger for sure. I fuck with the pink panther. Salmon is a very masculine color. Thank you very much. Swag was an incredible album. Swag. Yeah.

Yeah. I didn't really spend a lot of time with swag too yet. Have you? Yes. He had her. He brought back Hurricane Chris. Hurricane Chris is on swag too. Yes.

Popping my shit. Y'all got to listen to it. She's fire. And I'll be honest. Cardi B album hell of hard to me. Cardi album's good. Like Cardi B album better. Cardi made a better album than Thug.

Granted she had eight years to do it. She was a feature on his project, which it was decent, but didn't love it. Cardi B not supposed to have a better album than Young Thugs returned from. She did easily. Yeah. Well, to be like like you said, it did. take way long and it was pat but it's just like a really cohesive body of work like good music is good music we got what i'm saying i could judge a a project regardless of it's hip hop or not i mean hip hop

is already kind of like back against the wall because it feels like so many people don't want to hear it right now like the the overall audience for hip-hop like there's a lot of different factors like when you look at the number of hip-hop songs on the hot 100 when you look at the number of hip-hop artists that on Coachella. It is very many signs that suggest to me that the mainstream is kind of losing interest in hip hop. And I wonder when that's going to change. I feel like a lot of it is kind of like star oriented, you know?

Like hip hop kind of lives and dies by the biggest artists in the genre. You're just not going to have like a healthy hip hop industry because you've got like a bunch just sort of like mid, you know, street artists that are selling like 10, 15K first week. But then meanwhile, a 6-9, people might not like me using him as an example, but like the 6-9 era brought in a shitload of hip-hop fans that probably went out and listened to other hip-hop artists as well. Drake has brought in probably more fans to hip-hop than anybody else in modern history, you know, as I feel like hip-hop just needs big stars. And if you look at the age bracket of 20 to 30 right now, it's pretty much young boy.

Yeah, there's no other superstars. It leaves a lot to be desired in that regard. And I'll also say this, like hip hop, first of all, is still the most popular genre of music in the world, regardless of, I don't think that's true. It is. And let me explain why. Because a lot of the things are getting categorized in other genres are actually have so many hip hop influences on it. Influences doesn't mean that it is that genre. But at this point, there's no, the, the, The lines are so far blurred. It's impossible to distinguish. Country has fucking 808's been having it for over 10 years.

That doesn't make country music. They got Kevin Gates on it. Just because they borrowed a type of drum from hip hop. That doesn't make it. They're not just borrowing the same type of drum. They're doing collabs. Pop music is the biggest music in the world right now. Of course.

But pop music means popular. And a huge part of what defines popular music are actually still people rapping. So what people define as quote unquote hip hop may be different. Yeah, hip hop is not charting in the same regard as it was in certain ways, but there's more hip hop infuse in world music, country music, pop music, every single genre. Hip hop still influences the world is the biggest

culture. No, but it's not the biggest form of music at this time. Pop is way bigger. Right, but what I'm saying is not true in 2017. You know, it's funny, I took a music appreciation class in high school. You could have been a teacher, bro. I might have. No, no, for me. I know too many drugs to teach in any school for being honest. For sure, getting fired for banging some students. Whoa.

Hip hop is like kind of lost his commercialism recently. It's kind of boring. Everybody's the same. I think that the mainstream for a long time was just like really fascinated by rappers and it feels like a lot of that has kind of worn off. And I think, you know, hip hop kind of went into this super gangster era. And for a while it felt like people were really fascinated by that. But then it feels like that kind of wore off at a certain point.

And all you have to do, you don't really have to turn the clock back that far. I mean, if you rewind the clock 20 years or, I mean, 20 years, hip-ah was still kind of like one of the biggest genres. But like 30 years ago, you probably wouldn't have really predicted that hip-hop was going to be as huge as it eventually became. For sure. There's always going to be ups and downs, you know. But the thing is also people are fascinated in these stories of these people, but that doesn't necessarily translate to them making good music. And people are kind of jaded to those stories. You know?

Like, it's just the, the narrative of like, I'm a dude from the hood and I sold drugs and I made something out of myself was like very compelling before. And it feels like the culture just kind of craves new things. And in addition to that, though, I think the biggest factor is just the star factor. We don't have any stars. No young stars besides young boys. And no good party music. So what you feel about little baby?

Little baby hall. He's in that bracket. And he is kind of like near the top of the, you know, list of. modern rappers, which is kind of an indictment of hip hop because realistically, like, I mean, how many rap fans are really excited about a little baby in 2025? When you compare it to past eras, like, even, we don't even have to go that far back

and the amount of excitement that people had about different hip hop artists compared to right now is, I think one of the main reasons is it's a good thing and a bad thing is how big the independent market is and how big just random Instagram rappers that we would never, like, for example, this person might be huge on a no jump. upper scale like 1900 rug rat we would love like 1900 rugrats music we've been fucking with it he's done a mic drop over here he's big you feel me he's not mainstream big you know what I'm saying but like there's people like that that are still like have fan bases of 100 200000

people that people love particularly regionally but they don't translate to that you know or haven't yet translate that that's part of the problem is that we don't really have them any like nationwide rap stars but then meanwhile a real the young OG or is where Vezo is like gigantic in Detroit. And if you go to Detroit and you drive around, you're going to hear people banging that shit left and right. Meanwhile, like if you were on the clock 20 years ago,

those same people in Detroit would have been listening to 50 cent. Same thing as L.A., same thing as New York. We have real national stars, and there's just very little of that. Like when you see these young boy tours and you see him in states that are far, far away from his home state,

and he's getting a reaction, like the most beloved possible thing, it's just kind of, it's a throwback to a prior era. You don't think social media has, like, contributed to the segmentation of that, though, why we don't have big nationwide stars? Because I see the same thing with Tyler the creator. Every time he drops something, he has a huge reception.

All of his shows sell out quick online and all of this merch and different collaborations and stuff like that. He has his own festival. I see a lot more rappers trying to follow that business model even, but... Well, he's smart because his fans grew with him. But as far as young boy, the best thing he did, his stay his ass about a fucking jail. And who was supposed to...

He ain't even been out that long. But check it up. But check it up. Who was supposed to open up for that tour? EBKJbo. And he didn't because why? He wanted him getting incarcerated. And EBKJBO, in recent memory,

in the last couple of years, had the most potential to become a nationwide rap star. And instead, he got locked up and he's probably going to go do like five to ten years. For sure from California? From California, for sure. He would have been the guy waving the flag. And his...

success would have blown up all kinds of other artists, particularly from Northern California, but it probably would have had an effect on LA as well. And instead, he's going to waste the most productive years of his life just sitting in a cell most likely. Speaking of jail, do you guys think that Kodak Black would maybe be in the same spot as NBA Young Boy Tour-wise if he had not spent so much of his peak times in jail? I think there's a different reason. I think there's a different reason for Kodak Black. Oh, you think it's more addiction-based? Yeah, he's just like a more like because he's dropped so many hits. It's like every summer he's had a hit

or every year he's had a hit. But then there's no... He's kind of taking his eye off the ball, you know? Like, he's just not focused like he should be. I personally like Kodak Black better. I love them both. I love Young Boy.

I love... I could sing way more Kodak songs than Young Boy songs. Yeah. Like Super Gremlin was huge. Yeah, from a mainstream level, for sure, I feel like, you know, a Kodak set is going crazier in the club

than a young boy set. Yeah, and it's just like, like, for real, he just, like, it's just basically, like, the addiction and, like, the little slight pitfalls he had because like before, you know, Kodak had that effect that young boy got him, young boy, you know, looked up to him, called him big bro, you know,

all the stuff now to just like, you know, young boy, you know, he had took that torch and got that star power, for real. Even took his girl. He said, he got my favorite eater. Man, that's the thing about them. They had messed about like with two or three different of the same women, like for real, for real.

Six-nine had a clip where he said that Mello was, that he felt. fucked her for $100. Oh, my God. I don't believe it. You're asking for a ditty case throwing that accusation out there? Yes, I was going to say, like, we definitely don't need to, like, do the mathematics on that.

And beyond that, six, I know what to say to get us talking about it. So do you feel like, because we're kind of in this weird moment right now, where like, you know, everybody paid attention to 6-9 in, like, 2020, like, when he got out of jail, we paid attention

to his first single out, to the Nikki song. And then that shit just tapered off real quick and like people really ain't been checking for him for the last couple years and then somehow the thug thing was like a symbolic moment for him to make his return because he wanted to commentate on the thug thing and then coincidentally Vlad got him to do the interview at about the same time now i mean steamy from the knelt boys has actually done two podcasts in a row with charleston white and six nine together so it kind of feels like you know six nine is re-emerging as somebody that people are interested in hearing on a media level

I just wonder, is he going to be able to really, like, get a large percentage of people to pay attention to him musically? Because I see a lot of people having the nostalgia about his initial run on Twitter and stuff about how it was such a fun era. I don't know that he could necessarily get, yeah, a lot of people. Because that was, let's be real, that was kind of like one of the last great hip-hop time periods, regardless of if you like him or not, people were going nuts for gum. It was, no, first of all, I'm not going to lie. I enjoyed 6-9's music a lot. I'm not going to lie. We were already ops,

and I was still bumping the shit all the time. It was just fun. Not only, like that song, was like Kuda, that song was fucking crazy. All those songs, in retrospect, you can't remember what any of them were

because the song titles have nothing to do with the actual song. Kuda wound up being one of the dudes he snitched on and indicted. It was like his shooter's name. But he did say, he, in one interview he said that all his song names

are basically just random and that like most of them don't have anything to do with anything else. Yeah, well, he's like, again, we talk about art direction,

creative direction. His shit was super on point. He came in the game looking like a fucking human anime character and then he brought gang banging into it and commercialized it in a way we hadn't seen. I think people, the reason why people are saying this, first of all, Adam, is because it's a fucking meme. It started as like,

and also it's like retribution for Young Thug, because Young Thug was Mr. Snitch K his whole entire career and he was so critical of 6'9, so vocal about it, that it kind of would be like hypocritical to not kind of laugh at least and be like, oh, we miss six nine now.

It's also like the shit that you like when you're in high school or whatever is always going to seem cringe to you at some point within the next couple of years, like the way that I felt about new metal where I was listening to so much corn and slip knot, limb biscuit and shit. And then all of a sudden I'm like 16 and I'm like, holy fuck, the shit that I was listening to when I was 13 was so cringe. And then like now when I look at it, I'm like, oh, that shit was badass. Like, well, the fuck that I ever think I was too cool for that. And I feel like people are having that moment where it's like, oh, I, I,

I liked the 6-9 shit when I was 16 and now I'm 23, 24. And it's like, oh, maybe I'm not embarrassed of the stuff that I liked when I was in high school. Because if music at the end of the day, if we just remove the context from it, like, if it sounds good, it's going to sound good at a certain point. So much of how we perceive things is based on the image attached to it. Like, and at a certain point, everyone was like, oh, 6-9's a rat. He's a piece of shit. And his music sounded different to people.

and it affects your aura but at the same time if you make great music at a certain point once that memory gets washed away just like hate to say it guys really hate to say it R. Kelly is probably still

one of the best R&B singers of all fucking time one of the best songwriters of all fucking time one of the best urinators as well I can't nobody do a verses against R. Kelly and win no Dude, for real.

And that's the cold part about it. Now, once you get all those connotations, have first we ate, like, people were shy to slap it, but at this point, it don't even matter. I think you would be hard pressed to find another R&B singer in his age group or his era that he didn't also write for. So that's an unfair version. He's writing for Michael Jackson.

Yeah. He's like baby face, but, you know, less creepy. 69 are talented enough to get back on a bike. Like, get back up. Yeah, he thought the snitch portal open and he could jump through it. Okay, but he is. He is a big enough star that he can still get people to pay attention to him. That is a little different than making music that people genuinely love.

He might as you start streaming. But if he's going to be like Joe Budden now, then yeah, you could be a retired rapper that does podcast you now. For sure. I wonder how that's going to go. I think, like, if with him and Charleston White, whatever they did, if it did do numbers, it probably was just a controversy of having him and Charleston White together being off of each other.

Yeah, do people want to hear him consistently? I don't think no, yeah, the thing is I don't think nobody, and I could be wrong, just my opinion. I don't think nobody want to hear six, nine. Every week. He ain't no Joe Budden. Because it's like, it's like at the end of the day, all you're going to keep saying, oh, yeah, they talked about me. Look at them.

Like it's poison, judging poison. I'm going to be real. Like, I think 2017, 69 would have had a better chance at becoming a successful podcast or a streamer or whatever because when I challenge anybody, go watch that Vladter interview, all the clips that have dropped so far. I mean, this guy has done some serious damage to his brain through drugs and alcohol. I'm going to be real with you. He says the sentence, they're going to skip this clip.

They're going to skip this clip. He says, these is facts. Vlad, I speak nothing but facts. He says both of those sentences literally like a hundred times, like an hour and a half into this first interview. I don't know what it is because he never drank back in the day. He was totally sober during that whole era when I was around him, never saw him drink, never saw him smoke. and now I don't know I feel like he's just torched now

like he seems like he needs to rehab don't he do don't he do like the balloons and the helium and all that shit too not that I know naws and shit not that I've seen what happened to his case in the Dominican Republic that's a good question that's a good question but either way so a guy

in the mall this is like more recent stuff that he's dealing with so a guy in the mall called him a snitch and then 6'9 and his boy started to turn up on him and allegedly the guy flashed a gun and then they beat his ass, they jumped him. Which kind of sounds fake to me because I feel like, you know, if you're talking shit to

somebody and then they flash a gun, that's usually when you start turning down unless you have a gun. But that's the story that I heard from someone about this case that he's in. And it's looking like he might actually go back to prison for a couple of years. So I guess that that might be part of what this is just what I heard from people is that that might be part of why he seems like he's been drinking very heavily on that Vlad interview. And that got to be fake news, right? Because if you pack a nigga out, I got a gun, you ain't.

going to jail. Well, regardless, you're on crazy federal probation. I don't know. And also, can they prove he had a gun? I mean, not that, I mean, I don't know. What source reported this story? This is what I'm hearing. I mean, but that is in the media.

See how he was talking in that interview you talking about with him and Charleston White, he was saying talking about because I think at one point in the interview Charleston White brought up, or like the interviewer brought up him being robbed like by like some people that's associated with Boosie. And he was like, oh, yeah, yeah. as I see them, I'm crashing out. Like, it's up with them where I go to jail in front of the police or whoever is that. But you're talking about 6-9?

No, but he was saying that basically, like, because, you know, there was these Mexican dudes or Hispanic dudes. I don't know what they were, but they saw him working out in the gym. For some reason, he's got, you know, 50 million followers, and he's doing cardio at the 24-hour fitness. I'm a lot less famous than him, and I am not really dying to go to 24-hour fitness. I'm going to be real with you. But they seen him.

They ran up in there. They beat the dog shit out of him bad. It was like the most viral thing at the time and 6-9 said that if he sees them he's crashing out and he doesn't care if he goes to jail which I mean they crashed out on this random guy in the mall and that was enough of a reason for him to But it's like Charles and White was in the background

like oh yeah that was boozy That was boozy and them people or some shit like that Yeah but that's just You're real saying that? Hey Adam he was in a sauna bro Yeah he was He was in a sauna But right before that he had been on the treadmill

I think he was like in the sauna Like about to clean off after the sauna So they could have whooped his ass naked. And then the dude, those that did it, that was what, and that's... They were Latin kings. They were Hispanic. Yeah, they were Hispanic.

Yeah, they were Hispanic. Oh, Latin Kings. In Miami or Florida or whatever. Yeah, they're probably... But he's not in Miami. He's two hours outside of Miami, I was told. Like somewhere in Broward or some shit like that. Speaking of rapper fights,

do any of you guys think that A. Boogie was really fighting with Futures Group? I seen text messages that said, no, that's not true. We were corrected within, like, the first... hour that it was out, I got hit up saying that had nothing to do with futures team and that was A-Bugge getting into it with somebody else. Was that in Dubai? No, it's in Japan.

Why is everyone in Japan? I guess there was like some festival that just ended because like everybody I know rap and otherwise are out there. Like the milk boys are out there right now. The dollar is up. Bootleg Kev just got back from there. I don't know. Yeah, Boolet Kev was with sexy red in Tokyo.

That was my friend. And then I saw like 10 other people in Tokyo. I'm saying. Why is everybody going to Tokyo? A couple of months ago. go the exchange rate was super up so you could go out there and be fake rich for a little while oh wow yeah i don't know if that was still the situation right now but yeah that makes sense and japan has the aging population so they were like paying people to come out there they had free

international i mean free flights that's why that goddamn yoga instructor yesterday was time i was talking about to go to yoga class yeah there you go tell us more self-care hefei tell us more self-care hefe is man look but i was just in this yoga class i'd be going to yoga i started doing yoga you I was thinking about getting into some yoga. Sure, you got to, man. I'm a yoga bear. Yoga bear. You're still your picketing basket.

Hey, ex-a-momoy, she used to do hot yoga. So she'd be in there for X amount of time. It's at this degrees, and I guess you're sweating. And, you know what I guess? You're supposed to lose some weight or something. Yeah, it's like stretches you. We did rehab. In rehab, we did yoga, and the instructor was super hot.

And there's all these dudes that are just, like, getting off drugs. It's just horny as hell. And it's just, for real. Yes, dog. Huh? Oh, getting off drugs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not getting off drugs.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, getting off drugs. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, I felt bad for her. I was like, damn, I don't think there's a more objectified human being in the world right now than this woman in this class. Yeah, your rehab had a lot of things. You don't want to rehab, you have to, like, have insurance for it. This was an insurance rehab for sure. Yeah.

A Betty Ford type vibe? No, this one is a, well, this is, well, this is. last one that I was in was a lot stricter. It wasn't like a plush one. It was like somewhat plush, but it was very strict. It wasn't a plush one. It wasn't a plush one. They call me lush one.

How you're not going to do that? How I'm not in rehab without a trust fund. So many guns on me, I only bust one. So 10 shits. I got a flush one. Hey, but I've been eating well so I only got a flush once. Don't fuck. with us bitch the best rappers ever you ever rap ten no never no I had you as a career

no but I feel like if I was to get into a cipher or something if there was a no jumper cypher you wouldn't be tempted to jump in there for content I would because I'm not gonna fight that's how I started could you have a better version Brandon in the no jump or cypher he didn't even do a full 16 because he wants their his stance to attack me that's all they do in the comments lush push this narrative that's him you bring Brandon? No, she didn't. What's wrong with Brandon? Brandon? Actually, Brandon, we actually have

We actually have something to discuss for going to be. We talk about him every episode. He had to try to stop it. A couple of you guys probably not super familiar with Destiny. Destiny is an extremely liberal, progressive, political guy. He streams on YouTube every day. He's got a very big viral audience. And he basically is like the anti.

Donald Trump, the anti... He's reversed osmosis, Fuentes. Yeah, yeah, and he's very popular. I've had the pleasure of Interimium a few times. I saw that he was doing a live debate in Los Angeles. Now, keep in mind, Charlie Kirk, who kind of, in some way, is kind of like the right-wing destiny, was killed. So he had multiple different venues cancel on him in the lead up to this debate.

And I decided to go anyway. my wife, I had a ticket for Lena. She decided she didn't want to go because she thought that somebody was going to get their head blown off. So I thought to myself, who am I going to bring? I hit up Brandon. I said, Brandon is the perfect person to bring. Chaplain Ross also bought a ticket. So I go with Brandon.

He shows up wearing a shirt that says Trump was right about everything. And I'm not going to lie, the event as a whole was pretty shit just because everybody went up to debate. him like you you want to see some fireworks you want to see the hardcore trump supporters get up there and argue with him or some shit and instead it's like fanboys it's like you know timid quiet little Asian guy like I want to talk about AI what is the future of AI I'm like oh my god it's so boring but brandon like as soon as the the producers the people there saw him they're like oh shit we want to get this guy up there brand is smart brandon started playing hard to get he goes I'll go up if you give me a hundred dollars dude whips $100 out of his

pocket hands it to him right away boom money for nothing and so brandon gets up there they have the big out old debate i mean brandon feels pretty strongly that he did well in the debate i will say that it felt like uh the audience was getting some chuckles in at some of the points that he was making and the the overall tone that i saw in the youtube comments in in destiny's reddit was uh very much kind of dismissive of his contribution. So some people seemed like even in our Reddit that they were really enjoying seeing Brandon go up against somebody who does this for a living

and is very much a consummate professional like Destiny. So Brandon felt pretty good about it, but as a whole, I'm not sure that the opinions are that positive. To be fair, that's like playing a pickup game with like an NBA star. And like, you feel me? And we had,

we did that pot a couple years ago. Last time I was, you feel me? before the Exodus, with me, you and T. Rell and Destiny and what's the... T. rel trying to talk to Desti's,

like one of the funniest things that ever happened on here. Honestly, thank God I was there to offset the stupidity a little bit. But then on top of, like, on top of that,

there was a rushing, Rustland, the Christian rapper dude? Yeah, Russelin. So there's like a dude who believes in God and Jesus and then you have an atheist

or agnostic. I forget how he identifies, um, um, destiny. They were debating. It's really difficult. to get a point off on destiny.

Like, he's so well versed in the art of, like, debating conversation. I need his out of all prescription. I don't know what the fuck he'd be off, but he'd be smoking shit. But, like... He's on Vibance, I think. Oh, okay. Which I don't even really know what that's like. It's like the limitless drug.

I heard this from the nerd. Okay. Really? We might need to school. I mean, he talks about it like it was the biggest game changer. No, what is the name he said? Vibance. I need to try that.

I don't really know that. I don't really. Yeah, well, all I know is, like, Brandon, obviously is going to shine in that context compared to the other people because Destiny's ops weren't buying tickets to that show. It was like you said. That was like supporters of his.

Because like the dude who's like who went to debate with Charlie Kirk at the moment that he killed. I mean like that's a free event at a college campus. So it's in Utah. It's all Republicans and then they all just show up and they are you know mostly happy to just talk to him. But like you know, there's liberals who go there as well. This is people paying $40.

for a ticket to go see destiny and yeah there was brandon was the only op now i will say this the only person who actually disagreed with destiny on anything of substance well those tactics that he'd be using they didn't quite hit the same you feel me you can't say like let me talk after just talking for four minutes like because destiny is not somebody who really filibusters he's talented enough as a orator that he can kind of just like hit you with like one or two sentences and really kind of make his point typically. And Brandon was still hitting him with a, can I speak?

You didn't let me finish. Can I speak? He was still hitting them with that a little bit. It was pretty funny. Is Destiny? What is he? He's a Trump. He's a Trump supporter.

He's a massive Trump hater. Yeah. Yeah. If anything, I mean, like Destiny, like is way further left on the spectrum than I think anyone in this room is. You feel me with some of his ideology? Like, he's super, super. I mean, he gets his dick sucked by guys.

Yeah, he's fucking bisexual. That's how left he is, yeah. I was trying to hold off right, but I'm like, why is his name? Can you grab the mic? You said it makes sense. I was trying not to be like, all right, well, I'm like, why bro named Destiny? But you just said, well, you just answered my question. It's just like a screen name from like a million years ago, I think.

It's nothing too serious, yeah. For sure, like an AOL handle. Yeah, yeah. Either AOL handle or like a stripper at Sam's Opera. It could be Destiny either way. Sam, well, as long as,

oh, yeah, so overall, I had a good time. I did put out a vlog. It's on the Adam 22 channel, so I would appreciate if anybody to go check it out.

It nearly hit 20K, which given how dead my channel is, really felt like a small victory. So shout out to anybody to watch that. I also just put out another vlog where I went to a porn party and hung out with a bunch of clothes. Sorry,

Tam. And did that, which one did better? I just don't want to offend you. You're very important to me. We're sitting on the same couch. I know what you do for your, career, Adam. I'm aware of your

dog. Are you uncomfortable with that? No. I don't think she would have tried out for no jumper if she was that uncomfortable, right? You're doing it with your wife, so it's kind of not a sin. Sometimes I do it without her. Oh, damn. But like she knows about it. That's their program, though. Got a gang bang coming up.

Is that like hella chicks or hell of dudes? Hella dudes, yeah. Okay. Yeah, Munchy actually is thinking about doing a scene with me as well. He said he was down. Oh, my God. Okay. I want that girl from yesterday. Oh, that one girl, yeah.

Wow, that's a great. Oh, I'm not going to lie. It was the girl that the male escort, he had a Onlyfans model with him. Now, that was our boy from Snowfall. She came on the camera and did a 360. God, I can't wait for the shit to drop. She did the 360 and then Munchy, like, asked her,

what did you call it? Oh, the little sculpture. I'm like, yeah, let me do the sculpture. He wanted to go like this and, like, feel the shape of her body just so he could get it. get an idea what her curves were like. Hey, it's like human braille. You can't really hate.

Like, that's so funny. Hey, no, I get very little twirl. Now I want to see the, uh-huh. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie with some fine shit. So what is your tactic, Munchy? Because Ray Charles famously, he felt on the wrist. How do you do it?

That's something that he's wrote in the script, man. You know what I mean? He busted his ass bitches to go have a thin wrist or some shit. He wasn't about looks. I guess it was about them being, you know, chepsters. Is that right? Oh, yeah. Oh, fuck that.

I wish you got some love. Because that's what I told him, is I'm like, it's actually you're, you're kind of in a sick position because if a girl's got a nice body and an ugly face, what the fuck do you care? You can't have a great old time with her. And he's like, no, I can't be outside with the ugly girl.

But that's kind of the thing. Most of like, Hey, how you pick your girls? I can't. I got shot at 2012. My track record being cool with the girls I keep. I ain't something like to want to just smack and just go home. Like, girl, that's a sign to me.

They go out to look like some. Signed? What you got a pre-planned marriage? That's what they do in England? Well, they assign you a wife at birth? It's like India. It's like India. They got arranged marriages.

Monty got the glasses said, yeah, no. I can't, you know what I'm saying? Honestly. They just got to come with a W-2. I'm going to work. Tag teaming a bitch with the blind homie? I would not be tripping at all. I feel like that'd be way chiller.

You feel me? Like, shit, why not? It's less, you know, it's less. Yeah. Yeah, he's not, you know, with no eye contact. I want to bang a chick with the mayor, but it's, it's like, if he fucks up, then how awkward is it going to be? No, I ain't going to leave you hanging. But you might.

Hey, hey, hey, look, because like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, what I learned, like, like, with threesome and shit, nigga, you'll be, you know what I'm saying? Because you got to, you know what I'm saying? You got to, you got to, you got to pay yourself, like, we, like, I kind of mastered that shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? I know how to, quite a few now. But in the beginning, oh, quick. They'd be on their own. Did you all read the book, The Jed Dragon?

The Jed Dragon? No, what's that? It's like, it's like a sexual book on, you know what I'm saying? Like on sexual teachings and like about how to hold your ejaculation. Okay. Seeming with teaching. Doing sex and stuff like that. That kama sutra type of.

Taintain, just like natural herbs and shit you can take. It's a good book, though, but it's like a good read. But in the book, as you read, and it's like break. and shit down for you and shit and giving you sex, tech. Because I need help with that, man. I got a hair trigger

sometimes, man. This should just be going. Hey, Hey, young aunt, you ever out right on everything. Just order a rosemary. You know what I'm saying? What's a rosemary?

They got them at bars. You go, you're going to be up for a minute off the rosemary. It's alcohol, but you know, like, you don't even need no rosemary. You get that $20 bottle of Hennessy

you're motherfucking in trouble. I ain't going to nut. That's, Well, look. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Hey, chat GBT that Rosemary. I'm telling you, boy. That sounds fine.

That's like, Rolls Mary, that's like some natural shit, though. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, like, but they got an alcohol. I'm pretty sure in that book it might talk about things like, yo, Himbe, Rood and things like that.

Yeah, okay. Yeah, that do work. I ain't going to like, like, those things. Yeah, it's all type of text. Deks, all the type of shit. It's like, it's a hard shit. It's a fire book, though. See, that kids, don't go straight to the gas station,

dick pills. When you're young Not in your 20s and Go to get riddles and all that shit I know young dudes who keep biagra on them All the time in case they get some pussy That's bad once you get hooked Up them gas station peel

You can't drink bro you'll wake up with a headache I feel like you might wake up with a headache A good percentage of the week anyway What Drinking No hell no I don't have hangovers in Zee There has been times on this podcast

Where I'm gonna guess you had a hangover ever after. No, I don't know. I'll wake up and some noodles in a B.C. Potter or an ibuprofen some noodles, I'm good. That's impressive because I cannot imagine. Here's been times you were in here. You were fucking gone.

It a mesquim burrito all to stop. A big ass burrito in his pocket. A burrito is like literally the best. That's Hangover Cure 101, fool. Like, that's like the-cabing here with the Mexican burrito. I ordered it before I got here. It was up the door when I walked up. It's from somewhere around here.

the thing that I started doing at the end of my drinking career that I wish I had been able to do the whole drinking career is getting the IV. Oh yeah. Which they villainize that during the ditty trial, but you basically, you could pay, I don't know, like 150 bucks, 200 bucks. They come over, they put the fucking needle in your arm with the tube and it just injects tons of water and vitamins and saline or some shit into your body. it will destroy your hangover. Like, by the time they're done, 50% of your hangover feels like it's gone, and then a couple hours later,

you feel like almost 100%. It is the fastest thing for getting over a hangover, obviously like 200 bucks, kind of a lot. But I got the liquid IVs. You could get the box of them. Oh, me. Hey. Well, you can go into a clinic

that'll do it for like 30 bucks or something. She'll come to your crib. Like, no, but that's the $200. Yeah, that's the $200. Yeah, she got the real deal. Mm-hmm. Yo, that shit. there was days where that saved my life.

I, like my, my, uh, chick at the time I caught COVID or whatever and that got her off COVID from taking the IB like she was straight within a day or two like, because you don't, well,

you don't realize that so much of being sick is that you get super fucking dehydrated. And it's just hard to like replenish your fluid. So this just does it for you. Basically rich people will be doing that shit all the time. Yeah. My motherfucker is damn near daily. Like they be out doing coke drinking all night in the office, getting an IB and they straight in 20 minutes.

That liquid IV, the shit, though. I like that. I had that liquid IV. That's a good. You're congressional on Amazon. I go right in the Walgrey, the CVS, and get them. That's why I should get the box for. Yeah, just don't be scared of needles.

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His name is Pimp Pimp P. He's a smaller guy and he is troubled, let's say. He's dealing with some issues throughout his life. I'm not sure exactly how to, break it down or anything like that. And I'm gonna go off the assumption that you guys already saw the video of him getting his ass whooped because for sure YouTube would not like that.

But Pimp, PMP, he's got music videos on the No Jumper channel. People have said that he resembles a stud, which... Words hurt. They be making fun of him on the Kelly gangbanging forum saying he's a deso-dub brister. Yeah, so I did a segment on this. earlier, I'm really not familiar with him and I know who he was, but when I, while I was

doing the segment, somebody had, like, had corrected me and it was like it was Desto Dublo brother. But my question is, so, you know, I got familiar with him supposed to, like, you know, being like, special ed, but are, like, mentally challenged. But, um, do he gang bang? Because, like, you, like, I understand, but like, this right here is gang activity stuff with these hoods whacked out, man. Yeah, yeah, man.

Yeah. That's what got him. That's what got him. The way he did. So for the record, there's a video out of him getting the dog shit beat out of him from somebody from... Back Street. Backstreet.

That's their main ops. The front street. That's who's whacked out on his shirt. That's, you feel what I mean? Backstreet is a Crip hood also? Well, they... They're a few streets away from each other. Backstreet watch, front street watch.

They're supposed to been. I thought they're supposed to been like at a ceasefire. Yeah, exactly. So his shirt has the B, like the Boston B, as well as like a goose? A swan. Yeah. Yeah. Dissive Swans.

That could be dissing Nickerson. It's like, you feel like. Dissive swans. No, no, I'm saying to be like, like. But, no, that's, that back street. I mean, a few, but people in that area with who he beefed with that word that had is backstreet's and Broadway. For sure. So anyway, they don't beef a Broadway front street, but they beef with backstreet.

So it's for backstreet. That's what he dissed in this video. So a clip emerged of Pimp, P, P, basically getting the dog shit beat out of him. And people started kind of putting the pieces of the puzzle together because one of the guys, was beating on him is basically saying that's what you get for talking that shit, et cetera. And so this clip

apparently is the clip that got him whooped on or at the very least this is the kind of thing that got him whooped on. So Donnie let's play this clip. Put it on the screen and make sure you hit the sound thing so we can hear it. See the workhouse game? You see the whack-out's game?

We're not fucking with that. Oh, that's a name. I'm saying like, what a nigga talk about? Oh, you. This is my birthday today. Again. This is my little day. You see what's on the shirt.

You're not playing no games. Fuck them niggas. Okay, so if you're putting that energy out, for sure, you shouldn't be surprised me. You get your ass whooped. But they know he's... See, that ain't the whole video. It's another part of him actually dishing them. Oh, for real?

Like, yeah, that's the part. I don't even see this part. The part I reacted to he got that same shirt on. He likes my hood. Damn on Citri and Avalon. F. Wootee Wu. F. Wu.

F. Wootty Woo. That's why when the dudes caught him, they, when they ran up to him initially, but he's like, hey, what's your name and fired him? Like, yeah. F what you were saying in that video? Okay. Yeah.

And he's like, he's really well known in that community. Like, he's been outside all the time. Not like, so they all, the fools from the other hoods that are technically his community's enemies are. whenever they know who he is. It's viral. Yeah, because he's been viral. Yeah, exactly.

On the local level, he's viral. People know about him around L.A. for sure. Hey, the, it's regular video still hard to me. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. I mean, listen, like, I hate anything that goes against the program that Dub is trying to run, you know? So I hate seeing anything that's going to make him look bad or,

not that this makes him look bad because I think at this point, everybody knows that Dub is doing his own thing and don't necessarily have anything to do. with his little brother, but at the same time. Huh? They got different moments for so. Yeah, something like that. But either way, it's like, I feel like, at least my experience with Pimp

and Pimp and P is that I kind of had to accept it at a certain point that he's just, he's burnt out and he talks shit on social media because I've always been super cool with him, posted his videos, did all this shit. And then he just randomly would talk shit about me on the internet. Then I would see him on Melrose. He would apologize, act cool with me and everything. And then a week later. he's talking shit again.

He's just kind of out there. And he does the same thing to dub, to be totally real. Like he's gotten on social media and basically put dirt on his brother's name and talk shit about his brother because of the fact, I guess that his brothers, you know, leveled up and elevated in life. And it's kind of hard to keep every single J-Cat homie around once you start achieving a certain level of success. But Adam, that's not sugarcoded.

And this isn't secret information either. But he's high as fuck and emotional as fuck. See, I didn't know. that and then you kind of put me on to some of the secret information about the fact that he's actually doing a lot of drugs to me like i would and this is like what i was always worried about and it's like i feel like you know dub tried to help him and this is not from any like me knowing just from me observing like dub always seemed to try to have him around had him in the cough sir then all of a sudden i would see pimp pimp he outside if he was in some of my videos and

shit and he'd be tripping on talking shit about his brother saying random ass should be like oh, you're just like a liability out here. That's why your brother's trying to help you. You're just refusing to do it. I mean, that shirt alone is asking for trouble. And then I didn't even go on live earlier in that day and telling where you are and this and people is you're inviting trouble to you. You can't be outside wearing some shit like that.

It's inviting trouble, but that's kind of like the norm. People do that shit all the time, bro. Yeah. But I mean, the thing is is that, you know, and it's like if he was a normal person who wasn't dealing with serious mental health issues, then I would say that this was kind of disappointing because your brother for sure would give you a job, would help you to move into your own place to help to live a better life. But I know Pimp, P, P, I don't think he's really going to just go get a job and live a normal

life. I think he's fried. He's gone off pills. He's doing whatever he's doing. He's out here dissing people's hoods. Like, Dub shouldn't take any fucking grief for that happening to his brother because his brother is doing all the stuff that Dub was smart enough to not do. Dub kept himself out of the politics

Pimp M. P. P. P. At this point where Dub is kind of at the peak of the success, he's out here dissing people's hoods and basically asking for that kind of attention. But Adam, you've been around it. All it takes is you being around him for five minutes to know that regardless of the reason why, that kid is impressionable as fuck.

I'm not only one thinking funny? He's hilarious. Oh, he's super funny. But he's not as funny as he used to be. This shit's not really funny. To me, like, he used to be funny. All that, like, when he was doing Pimp cosplay and like, you feel like me?

like dollar bill to the end just don't stay john me okay that part fire like the original video where he says dollar bill to the end please don't finish on me i never even what is that from that's from some song yeah yeah that's that's i don't need these diamonds to see i'm shining i think that was released on no jumper actually all for show but i'm gonna be real with you this is how much dub cares about his little brother is that i remember way back in the day 2016 when i first was becoming friends with dub maybe 2017 but ian connor posted a video of Pimp, P in the studio, damn near crying, rapping those lyrics.

And it was like kind of viral, like in a weird way. Like it was just sort of, it was just like, who is this crazy kid who's getting super emotional singing this song in the studio? I never really understood where it was coming from. But either way, dub, instead of saying, this is like how far ahead he was thinking, instead of saying like, oh, my brother is kind of viral,

he's having this little moment, people paying attention to him or whatever. He hit up Ian Connor, and I was him to delete the video. video because he wanted to protect his brother. He knows his brother's not well in the head. He wanted to help try to protect him from the fact that he knew that people were basically laughing at him and trying to clown on him and shit like that.

And that's the kind of shit that Dub was doing to try to keep his brother out of the spot like because I felt like he kind of knew that he wasn't ready for that attention, you know? And that always has been the thing that kind of made me, that's why I never sat down with Pim and did a whole interview, a podcast or whatever. I wasn't going to just kind of use them for content or wherever. I think we did do the exposed maybe at one point and we posted some of his videos. I never really was going to do the podcast with him

and let him crash out and shit like that because I know he actually really means a lot to Doug. And I think it's deeper than that too. I think he's being very protective because think about this, if somebody wanted to get at, at that time, you feel like it was wanting to get at Doug.

He'd be very easy to get at his outside super impressionable, slow little brother who was off the Zanz. He got himself in that trouble, but easily like if it was, if Dub was having problems with people, luckily throughout his career, he basically hasn't. For sure, there's a dude in the set

who you could just run up on. So my question, like, do we know if he game banking or not? Or is this a part of him being mentally challenged? No, he's from fresh. But he's mentally challenged. Well, so, like you're doing both. I'll say he grew up in that hood. You feel me?

Like, he know all the, like, my homies from there, like, don't me L.C., shouts to him and shit. So what you're saying? He told you he's not from over there? No, no. I'm saying he'd fuck with him and shit. If anything, I'd never seen him wear a shirt like that before. No, he's doubling down.

Oh, for sure. Like, he got a third old, Ed, and he dished the boo. That's a good day or not. You don't wear that on a day-to-day. So, like, you're doing that show on your birthday. The Hood Day. No, no, he's called him.

The Hood Day is birthday. Exactly. But that was my whole point, though. That's how impressionable he is. It's probably him going outside and the fools being like, hey, it's whatever day. You feel me? Tenfold, whatever.

You feel in me, like, to, like, put on this shirt. And he's like, oh, hell yeah. They're turns up. Give him a blunt, and he's your best friend. Like, I've been around the kid. Like, I've made sure he got home safe on multiple occasions, and he probably barely remembers type shit. Hey, you're talking about Elsie with the studio?

Uh, he from, oh, yeah, yeah, with the twisties and shit. That's how I'm. He'd be rapping and he got songs, yeah. Yeah, he fired. That's all me. You feel me, yeah. But anyways, that, that's the thing. Like, I've seen him, and drugs are a big factor,

and I think that this kid don't need to be in. You, bro. Yeah. But also, I'm mentally... But, not, but, like... So just says you guys got fucked up together. Well, I'm... Actually, the funny thing, we did get fucked up together.

But also, I've also... When I was sober, and when he was in one of my videos, and this fool was over there super zaned out, and I made sure he was straight, and he was kind of being wild, and, like, I ain't even going to get into the particulars, you feel of me? But I made sure he was good and got home. And as far as, like, the gang-vanging question?

Shit, you feel, me? like um he said some i don't even want to get into it because you know i got too much respect for dubs to even speak on yeah let's not air out the worst shit he ever said you know i would like to see pim and pina p b kind of shape up type shit yeah exactly like and he's like i said if we took drugs out of that kid's life you'd see a different side of him for sure that's not to say he might not have mental issues or this or that but whatever his program is and he'd be doing that's not helping it seemed like a emotional A roller coaster, for whatever reason,

fight some little trauma from when he was younger. His life is basically an emotional roller coaster, as far as I'm concerned, yeah. Because, like, my whole time I've known him, it's just been up and down. Like, at first I was mad, like, damn, why's he talking shit about me? There's a clip in the Reddit of him talking shit.

I see him, I realize, like, oh, that was just him tweaking out. And then two weeks later, he's just talking shit again. I'm like, oh, okay, I guess I just got to accept this from this fool. But that's how easy, that's, like I said, he's impressionable. Like, if he's around you, you could turn him up to whatever level you want basically he might be bipolar on paper a little bit. Well hopefully he gets him

help because like the type of activity he putting out there on camera, that just could have been easily, let's just say if that wasn't some dudes who's with the social media antics as far as catching they op and upload beating them up. Like, oh yeah, this is him right here, we're about to

pop him because they could have, he was walking down the street. That could have been to easily pull up, you know what I'm saying? Pop-a-bop-bop, you know what I'm saying? And keep going or just hop out, dog, even hop back and going about your business. If they took you a little bit more seriously, then they wouldn't have the camera and they would have smoked your ass.

So in all, as much as that video comes off as like very cruel and hard to watch and seeing them have all the scrapes on his face from his head just fucking hitting the ground. It's pretty brutal to watch. But I hope, I mean, I highly doubt that this is what's going to happen. But hopefully you could take this as a sign to kind of chill out.

And also, man, get to a doctor. Because did you notice that when he's laying on the ground after they whip his ass. I don't know what you call that of what's going on with his leg, but something's going on his leg. And I swear to God, I've seen this on homeless people over the years

where your leg is just getting all weird and thick. Yeah, y'all, honestly, I want to take a, I want to take the picture in short of the chat, GBT, and see what it says it is. Do you know what staff look like? It looked like a human. He's like, you know, these kind of looks like an untreated staff.

Yeah. It's going to start eating the flesh. It's going to start eating the flesh. You know, show that on the screen. It looked like he got a... It looks like his leg is turning into a wooden leg. Like, he's becoming a mannequin from the knee down. Is that a bandage right there?

Yeah, the bandit coming from there. So that means he probably might could have been in the hospital or had some type of infection. Yeah, show it. It looks like an infected-ass wound, bro. Bro, I'm going to ask Shadjee what this is, and I think that this is the kind of thing that they would probably be able to... And his skin color is changing, so... It looks like Mercia, like staff. Yeah, like that, exactly.

But the staff come from all them hospitals and stuff. Well, technically, like, what's referred to as a staff infection is typically from a hospital, yes. But this is like a hundred point. The name is called Mercer. You can get it like when areas is not disinfected. It's dirty like in them jail showers and some of them like metal places they live on and shit like that. Yeah, like if there's like an unsanitary surface. Sure.

Yeah. But, yeah, Chad DBT is confused. They just said that it seems like it's some kind of. and, well, at first off, they think he's wearing a leg brace, which I don't think is true. You included too much other contexts. I'm saying, it doesn't look like a legbrace at all to me. He do look like, kind of like a peg leg. Then it's like crazy.

Have he been shot before? Oh. Yeah. Have he been shot before? I don't believe nothing. I know of. But he's a pretty, he's like a smaller, frail dude. That's why people make the jokes calling him a stud and all that shit.

He's not like, no, I'm not calling him a bitch or nothing like that. but like he's doesn't he's not a bigger dude and he's not super like mannish like that so like him getting hit he went down instantly and i honestly like ass said it could have gone a lot worse so i guess that's not it's not that big bad of a thing but still it was like sad to watch because i actually got love for that dude and i hope he gets better yeah as people saying it's a diabetic thing that's really what i was thinking as well and and there's been times where i like got on the subway in new york and somebody had a leg like that with like a big ass open wound on it

and I had to walk out of the subway car and just get into another car because it was so disgusting. And that that's fucked me up when I saw it because it reminded me of that smell, bro. The infection smell is the worst. The diabetic, it just like, it would, like, blow you up,

how you look and fluff like the wounds. That's an infection. Like, diabetic don't look like that. I'm leading towards staff effects. Yeah, that's an effect. Look, look, right? Like on the side of it, like, a blood. a lump,

look like a sword, then he got a bandage. Like that ain't, that ain't, that ain't, that ain't, and that fucked up leg, look how much thicker

his calf is than the other leg. His other leg is super skinny and that one's huge. They got all staff dorms in, uh, in the county. Yo,

I've had staff many a time. I even, yeah, I got it a bunch of times when I was doing jujitsu back in the day. And then one, at one point I did jujitsu and then stayed up all night doing Coke.

And then I got a staff infection inside of my, fucking nose, which is probably one of the grossest things. You guys are rolling around getting each other sweat on you. Yeah. That's why. And that's why I, that's kind of part of why I stopped doing Jiu-Jitsu, because I just, I had staff infection like three, four times.

I was like, well, this is horrible. I don't want to do this anymore. So the fact that common in Jiu-Sysms? Yeah. Some dirty-ass match. And you're just sweating on each other and shit, you know? Like, I gave it to another dude who, like, he knew it was me because we had been practicing one specific movement together where, like, I think I was,

like, kneeing into, like, his arms like this. And then he got it on his arm. And then I had it on my knees. So I couldn't even deny it. It was so obvious that he had got it from me. How do you know he didn't give it to you? That's a good point, yeah. But, yeah, I think he just, like, finessed you in the thing.

I got it from you. I can't believe you, Adam. The whole time, 20 years later, you realize this. Yeah. I just take the blame. Fuck this guy. This guy, meanwhile, is, like, way more serious about Jiu-Zoo. And he's, like, so clearly annoyed as fuck that he's got, he got this infection from me.

And I'm, like, brand new. I only been doing a couple weeks. I don't know. Sounds like some, like, hazing. Yeah. Well, anyway, Pimp, P, P, I mean, I'm not going to tell you to drop your flag, but maybe cut it out with the T-shirts. Just, man, just, he need to get away from the city.

You need to go somewhere where it's slower. Yeah. Yeah? Less influences. Slet him to Palmdale? That would be terrible. Shit, that's not going to work. Yeah, it's too late.

That ain't far enough. Vegas. They ain't far enough. I said, you got to grab the mic and kind of turn into your face because it's pointing in a random direction, sorry. He need to go somewhere really slow, you know what I'm saying? Okay.

I wonder where, like, but like, like, obviously there's way too much going on for him, but like, if he was going to do that, it would have to be in a controlled environment still. He just needs, like, people that care about him around him, for real.

He needs, like, supervision. Yeah, like, for real. Like, because he's clearly not, and I hate to say this, like, he's not capable of making adult decisions. Mm-hmm, conservative. I hope he's okay, like, right now. Do you know how old he is?

Um, Under 30, I would guess. But I mean, I guess he probably going to look like that until he's 40. Well, you know what's crazy? He could be, he could look a lot younger than he is. I mean, like, I'll guess he like probably 28. Pimp, Pimp, P. Yo, speaking of people's brothers in Hefe, I just got turned on to your brother's music.

Oh, yeah, we watched on a music. That was pretty good. NBA one. Yeah, NBA one who. looks very, very similar to you. His music sound pretty good. Why are you looking at it be like that? No, I was just like somebody mentioned it.

I looked at it. Or I think I've seen somebody in your comments. We played him on the music stream like three times last. Yeah, and I see people saying that too. Yeah, it's just hard. But I have a question for you is somebody told me that maybe the reason why, for extra, was not feeling the cipher idea,

might be because your brother, little and hefe or as he might be called in other context was known for putting in work behind the walls and that maybe that might have been a previous fade that took place I mean I ain't know he said he got he said him and four extra's got him off the back do you know what the result was I mean no I had to let you I bring him next week and let you ask him oh shit now I really look like a four extra hater no yeah

I ain't going to speak on their business. You know, he told me, yeah, he said, yeah, he had that conversation. Like, he said something about that shit, like five, six months ago. I don't know how that came up, though, but it was something, you know, Forex's trending. And in a little conversation that came up. And I was in a dorm here or whatever. Interesting.

He mentioned that to me. Interesting. Did you notice that Forrester got a Nintendo DS tattoo? That's part for the course, I would say, at this point. Yeah, they get big old DS across the stomach. Yeah, I'm saying. Oh, it's not. Oh, it's the dark side.

Oh, I thought it was a Nintendo tab. My bad, my bad. I was just trying to push buttons. Can we show it? Let's pull it up, man. This is like, man, I'm not going to, I got a lot of tattoos. This looks like probably like one of the most painful tattoos I could ever imagine just having walls of black ink in your stomach like that.

that like bro i feel like he's a cut like he has a high tolerance for pain clearly he's dealt with some shit i assume is dark side 40s because of the name for yeah oh look at you jane i used to live in his hood oh look at this thing that is a fucking heavy-handed thick yeah let's put that audio on it watch my page i've the whole thing of it you think he's tired of ever seen a watch the whole god god i guess nigga burning avenue from the nigga from the beginning to the end how this motherfucker is Chris? What a part of the guy? Tell him what part of you at?

Yo. Come here. I'm talking on that leg right here. Let me see it on that. Dead homies. Or don't have to zoom in on that. You know, positive? Is it just me or as he getting fat?

I don't remember him having a belly like this. And it's kind of making me think like, oh, maybe the whole hand situation kind of put a halt to the burpees and whatnot. What I get, I get, I can't. You know he can't do that. I mean, he can't do that half a source of shit he eating. Get on the treadmill. And also, he could be probably making more, though, sweat with the hand. You got to clean that motherfucker.

You've got to do too much right now. His belly also, it probably looks so swollen that he looks fatter than he is because that that shit makes your belly swell up. It doesn't. But like you said, I'm probably sure he's picking up weight those shit eating because he ain't well, he can't really work out. But you guys, I'm not about this. Whatever happened to Pippipip's leg is happening into his belly.

No, literally, it's raised up. He just cracked itself up. Not like y'all have y'all are all I mean besides tam y'all are tatted have y'all seen a fucking more heavy-handed tat than that in your life literally i don't know how heavy-handed it is i just know that i have never gotten a tattoo with that much of a wall of just black ink that that that shit must hurt and he don't get fucked up on your stomach too that's a painful i've seen a hell again that that's like a insanely thick tat fool like Just like I said, just even the shade. That's what I'm talking about. He got it all done it once too. A lot of people would get the outline done, maybe filling half of it. How do you guys feel about people that are getting put to sleep now for the tattoos?

Pussy. That's stupid. Is it super expensive, I heard? Yes. You're getting anesthesia. Yes, 100% is expensive. I mean, he's just signed a waiver to do it too. I've gotten tattoos that were so painful that the whole time I was just thinking like,

holy shit, I wish I could be put to sleep for this. So I feel it. but also like the idea of paying money for it super suss and then also yeah as much as i don't care about getting tattooed anymore it does feel like that is part of the experience is going through the pain so you're just waking up fully tatted it's just not authentic you're not really gross i mean i got a i got a high tolerance for pain no that's what i'm saying so like the tattoo is really nothing if you really been through something in life all tattoos used to mean some shit now it's like part of marketing campaigns and images motherfuckers get signed in that same day they'll be put

to sleep and wake up with fully blasted when they only had one tap before. That's some lame-ass poser shit. Let me ask you, do you think like being tatted up has gone out of style to a certain extent that is just not what it was? Think about like 2011, 2011, 2012, Wiz Khalifa.

Like having a bunch of tattoos was like your whole personality. Like, I'm not, I'm not a killer. I'm not a drug dealer. I'm just a cool dude to smoke Sweden that has tattoos. That was like an identity. Literally, that was his entire thing to the point when Soldier Boy made his Wiz Khalifa slash currency type song,

Circular 2011. The chorus was, I just want to smoke weed and buy shoes. And then he was talking about getting tatted in the song. That's literally what the whole person was. I just want to smoke weed and buy shoes

and do what fly guys do. Why do I have that song in my head? The best soul of the boy song. I'm thinking about it, though. Wilson, I ain't got a tattoo big like that though. G. Perico's shit. Oh, yeah, you're right.

You want to. Geperrico shit chunky. I don't think tattoos are out of style. I just think it's not associated anymore with being hard. Like a facetet used to me like all. this nigga. He's scary.

Like, hold your purse. We don't get cool new face tat rappers anymore. For a while, you had Lil Zan with ZZZZ and the dripping from his eye. You had little pump with all kinds of shit on his face. You had a Zan Frank with the Anne Frank on his face. It was like every week there was just a new crazy face tattoo kid coming out and you don't see that shit anymore. Like granted like gangster dudes get tattoos and stuff.

But they don't really trip about getting like super crazy face tattoos. Like that used to be. a recipe for how you are going to go viral. You got a crazy face tattoo. Everybody pays attention to you for a few weeks. You're off to the races. It's also super weird that people are, like, I still don't get going straight to your neck or your face when you ain't got your

arms blasts, your body blasts yet. Like, that's super weird. Like, I want to be able to sit down. This is me. I don't want, I can sit down at a formal dinner. I could have, look, I have no tattoos right now. You feel you, you can't see no tats on me. I like that.

You have to, the more clothes. I remove the more tattoos you're going to see. Like, I don't know. To me, that visible tats means something. To me, like, growing up, the rules where you do not get tattoos on, like, you know, your neck or your face or whatever, your hands until you get your arms, you know, or like a significant portion of your chest or you do your throat before you do your face. Then fast forward to, like, 2016, I'm around Lill-Zay and a little pump all down.

They're just flagrantly breaking the rules left and right. And I'm just like, okay, I'm just going to hold my tongue and not say anything about this because this is how you guys are living. But for sure, like, that was like one of the most important rules of getting tattoos when I was young. I did tell my homie the other day, fucking Kenny's dumbass, I had to tell him. He really wants his first tattoo and he's like,

I was going to be on my neck. I'm like, what, fool? Your first test on your neck, you're retarded. And the objective is to impress the big snark, too, nigga, who is you? I'm just trying to, I'm his older homie trying to put him up on game. No, but, you know, he might, you might, You might think it looks sexy to the females. Females might like that's the problem is that that like if you get your neck tattoo right away,

it's like you're doing it so that it's automatically recognizable. You got to do some trill shit like my boy back in high school. Hey, corneous BMX tattoo you can get during the 90s. You get the bike chain around your bicep. And then the homie would be in school for like three weeks after he got it with a sleeve rolled up so all the girls could see it. That shit was so, we used to make fun of him so bad for it. But that's like you, that's why it's like you get your sleeves and you get your chest done and shit before you get the rest of it.

Because that's like you proving that you're doing it for the right reason. I realize all these old school rules are totally out the window with the new generation. Yeah, because it's not like Hell's Angels sailor Jerry giving you like a fucking like traditional tat nowadays. But regardless, like do you remember when fools first started getting collar rockers like the tats right on their above their chest? And then everyone's wearing V-necks. The hoopnecks. Yes. That was the Wiz Khalifa era too for show.

and guess when I was one of those idiots. I was for sure got my color. And you know what? I had a real thing that I noticed when I was in New Hampshire a couple of weeks ago is that like when I'm hanging out in like Portsmouth, New Hampshire and shit, I'm seeing so many white people with tattoos.

And it just really stood out to me that I just don't see white people with tattoos at nearly the same rate out here. Now granted out here the differences that I'm like around like affluent white people because I'm going to the farmer's market. I'm going to the private school shit. So those are the type of people that probably aren't going to be heavily tattooed.

But man, in New Hampshire, them white people love getting some tattoos. You were around the hipsters. I was around the hipsters. Because out here, shit, I don't know too many, like, the only white people I know that without tattoos are like the squares I went to fucking crossroads with when before I got expelled type shit. Like those kids and their parents.

But like most white people I know out here are blasted and shit. Like so I think it's totally just like a demographic. Well, Adam is around the old money white. Yeah. They don't like that. No, but that was one thing I said in the group chat when I was in New Hampshire, too, is I'm seeing so many, like, white people wearing, like, shirts. And, like, so many people are clearly, like, into punk and metal and, like, weird,

folk-y-type bands and stuff. Ooh, like, flea boxes. Storm clap. And I'm just kind of realizing, like, oh, yeah, this is, like, white culture in a place where there is no other culture to really affect it, you know? There's not cool black music, cool Hispanic. that music that kind of people tend to get into. It's like, no, this is white people left to their own devices.

Or our fashion. So we're still going to play guitar. Well, because what's the closest metropolitan city? Boston. And that's already like considered for major metropolitan standards are predominantly white city compared to other big cities of that nature. We stayed in Copley Square in Boston, which is like a very like high end sort of area. Yeah.

And I was like very minimal number of people recognizing me until we then go to like the areas where it's a little bit more trusty record store. and smoke shops and all this type of shit. Anyway, I have a topic that I want to hit before we wrap this. Can you click on the link that says Benny the Butcher says hip-hop nerds have taken over hip-hop? This is a take that I would like to hear thoughts on. Everybody got their headphones? Can you guys hear it?

The butcher coming. The butcher is coming. Let's fire this up. You can hear it, aunt? Yep. Okay. Hey, yo, y'all see what state the game is in when the streets, when the streets don't hold the culture of the game.

now I'm not after weird Twitter nerds and the nerves and all of these weird motherfuckers got you know what I mean they got the hands on the culture the street the voice of the streets don't mean as much as it did when we was coming up it was a lot of cons to that as well you know what I'm saying I got to say that but you see what happened when the streets you know I mean don't control the game no more it's a lot of fuck nigger shit going on man and a lot of people's okay with it because they're fuckniggas man hey yo y'all see what's they not he's just trying to show off his amazing pirex chain. What the fuck? I wasn't thinking about the Paris chain. I was thinking about the sideburns. I see in a viral quote tweet

just being like, I ain't listening to nobody was sidebirds. Okay, so, nobody has sad burns like that in modern American history, right? My dad got the chop. Mutton chops. Those are mutton chops. I fuck with Benny the Butcher, but I just don't know where that came from. Like, who inspired him to do such a thing?

So he said that he had got the sideburns, like, and then like he was like, you know what? People were making fun of it, but he's like, damn, like no one else has this. this is going to be my little look to distinguish myself. And he said he did it on purpose, even though people were like, were like, clowning him for it. He's like, this is going to be my shit.

It's very gangs in New York. Yeah, exactly. I had sideburns kind of like that when I was in high school and shit, just because I didn't know what was going on slash that was kind of normal at the time. The fact that he's still rocking it is kind of crazy. But, I mean, okay, a big part of why this clip has been viral on Twitter and stuff is because people are basically quote tweeting it and taking him as an opportunity to tell Benny the butcher that actually his fan base are the nerds.

Which if you're familiar with Griselda, if you're familiar with who seems like they listen to their music or who probably goes to their shows, I think you would have to agree with that. They are like street dudes from upstate New York, but their content seems like it kind of appeals to the nerdier side of hip hop. That being said,

I think that like one of the other most like prevailing thoughts on this, is that like in some very meaningful ways the streets are dead. The streets are irrelevant and probably will continue to get more and more irrelevant going forward and they definitely clearly don't dictate hip hop in the way that they used to. There's a new consumer that runs hip-hop

and I think that's probably what he means by nerds. It's like young suburban kids that don't really know nothing about the street. I swear to God he. Hey, bro. Basically, anybody can make a YouTube channel and have a voice. Yeah.

And they putting their bunk-ass opinions on shit versus back then the streets set the standard for some certain shit to go on and go into music and shit versus a take that flaco got her some shit about some stupid shit. Yeah, exactly. And I feel like you can't really control who buys music because it'll surprise you when you go to some of these shows, just like, you know, going to some of the homie shows like rather it was sad show G. Perrico show like, damn, this day fan base, you know what I'm saying?

So, so 80% Mexican. That's a generous take here. We're like 90. So almost nobody is making music for people like them. Quite often, if you are going to be a popular rapper, you're going to appeal for people outside of your demographic. Yeah, so that versus, I think what Benny the Butcher is getting that, I think he getting that like all, you know what I'm saying,

the F-ish that's going on in rap right now. like with these artists and every day they're coming out, talking about somebody else snitching. All this person's an informant. All this person did that. We didn't heard audio. So I really think he's taking a shot at them. Like, man, yeah, they mess in the state of the culture of you.

I was listening to these dudes. Y'all was rocking with these dudes. Y'all thought they was authentic. Now y'all seeing what's going on. And now with like this openness of information, it's like people are just able to have more of an objective opinion on what's going on in the streets. Like there's so many people who get into,

the streets and then they smoke somebody when they're 18 and then they got to go do 30 years and it's like they realize at some point during their 30 years like oh this shit is stupid as fuck like why the fuck did I waste my whole life killing somebody for this game they don't give a fuck about me but then in comparison like when you see somebody like

push she's he crash out within the first year becoming successful what do you see you see choruses of people online clowning him and pointing out the error of his ways now that doesn't mean that like the streets are completely dead or anything but there's more transparency of information for people that understand how negative the consequences that come from this are. Plus, it's not a mystery to most people that the vast, vast majority of gangsters tell

once they get locked up. Like that's open for people to see. Well, you know, who didn't tell, the guy who, you just said his entire audience was predominantly nerds. Benny of the butcher, black resilda family, or I'm sorry, black soprano family was under federal investigation. I didn't know that. Yeah. But they never got a RICO or anything? they were like literally under serious investigation. He was like, he faced mad charges, stood tall, never snitched, stood by the code, makes real street music and is a great lyricist, bro. And his fans are not just nerds.

They're people that appreciate art, you feel, I'm like, they just so happens as like, it's all different types of people. But it's funny that the person with the quote unquote nerd rap following kept it more real than all these supposed, like, respected gangsters. But I think that's the point. is that a lot of these people, you know, to use Megan the Stallion, cosplay gangsters, you know, acting type shit. They're coming out with this persona because it's easy to get fans with a face tat

and a fucked up story. But then when it comes down to it and you get in the courtroom where you get in the investigation room, you tell, and it messes up that whole lore. Now all of the people that gravitated for you because of that. It's like, well, this thing is weak. Like, what was the point of all this? The weird part about it, though, too, is just the fact that,

like, hip-hop is so regional. And when I was in New York doing those vlogs in the Bronx and everything like that, Like I really was hearing cars drive by playing Reselda, which in L.A. would never happen. I mean, almost never happened. That's likely for sure. Not to say that they don't have anybody listen to them on Spotify or whatever, but for sure Grzellda is not the sound of the streets out here.

We don't have a bombiance for that. Right. But on the East Coast, I mean, like, shit, you hear that BPM slow the fuck down as soon as your plane lands. Like, you're just, it's just not the same sound. And like, one thing that always kind of tripped me out about, Griselda is the way that people will revere them as real hip-hop and then shit on a young boy or a pooh-sheisty for being like somehow indicative of like, you know, hip-hop being like permanently and irreversibly damaged. The lyrical content, the themes, the topics being discussed are almost exactly the same.

Yes. It's really the aesthetic choices that make old hip-hop heads appreciate them. They're rap into Alchemist style beats and they're obviously putting words together in a different way, arguably. a much more artful way. But, I mean, the topics are essentially the same. It's just like Drizilda has the kind of fan base that they have because they're able to put the pieces of the puzzle together in a way that appeals to people that are a little bit outside of hip-hop center.

I think the main difference between that generation rap and like a young boy is these are drug dealers and these are drug users. So it comes off different. So older people like people like that shit, that Jay-Z, big papa, I'm popping it. a yacht off the money and I'm living like push a tea has been eating off that for years to be in the biggest king to be fair like i would say something like push i said yeah he's rapping about doing drugs but he's also rapping about selling drugs but then it's more like you know killing your ops i feel like you know beny might talk about shooting somebody but it's probably going to be in the context of like a drug

deal gone bad he's not like aggressively murdering his opposition and his lyrics quite the same way and they're interjecting the the different references of the wrestlers and they've embraced wrestling culture they talk about stuff that is a little bit more funky. But for the most part, you know, thematically is pretty similar. That's also because West Side Gunn is like a straight, like, masterful creaker and is able to like... Are they still United?

Yeah. They didn't even like fall out. I felt like at one point it kind of looked like they were going to. Well, you know they're cousins. You feel like me? Okay. Yeah. Like, so they're family.

But is Griselda as a whole still a strong entity or is there some separation there? I felt like that seemed like it was happening at one point. Well, Griselda, to me, the biggest, the most confusion I have about Griselda is, we know that who the core members are. But then a lot of other people got brought onto the label and had projects released. And it's like, who are the members? Because Boldie James is on multiple Griselda projects. You know, the stove guys all over West Side Guns albums is difficult to distinguish for me.

Like where, because when that amazing five mic album, what was she, Machine Gun Doo came out in 2020 and was one of the best albums of the fucking year. You feel me? That right there. We knew that's Gunn, Conway, and fucking Benny. You feel me? And Derringer on the beats.

Do you think in general that kind of rap is just not popular anymore? Because J. Electronica dropped a whole bunch of shit and nobody talked about it. I mean, when you look at Ben and the Butcher's views on YouTube at least, which is only one way to judge something, but I looked at it after I watched this clip. And, like, his music does very well. It's like many videos with millions of views,

which I have kind of pledged to stop judging people on their YouTube views because I know so many people are faking it. But it does feel like his fan base is pretty legit. Like it still does good. And you know what else it is? International. These folks can tour Europe, Asia, all these different regions, Africa, they could go to different places that really appreciate them and make way more money because of the type of deals they have than a lot of these rappers that you see with the, I guarantee you, Benny's bust downs. That's all real shit. You feel me?

I guarantee you his jewelry is real. No moist a night on it. Ain't no moisy. Like, these fools is actually... Benny's sitting on almost two million monthly listeners. His top song has a hundred million plays. There we go. That's pretty impressive.

And here's what Megra Zeld did to me, cool, because everybody thought that underground rap was some dusty-ass shit that only fucking nerds were fucking with. And just fools that dress like me. Nah, these fools are designered out. They got fucking bust downs. You feel? They got hella chains.

They look like the... They have... the same attire, but like actually in a more fashionable, like mature way than a lot of the younger rappers have, but they're like still, they still have that aura. I mean, it's, it's like, they're like regular rappers from the late 90s. I mean, but they've just been like dropped into the 2020s and it just hits way different. But like, you know, stylistically, musically, et cetera, it's kind of hard to like find that many difference between like a Locke's album, except for the fact that the locks were like trying to make radio records, a large percentage.

at the time. You know. They're like mob deep. Yeah, exactly. They're mop deep. Benny and them have the privilege of just making whatever kind of music they want because they got a cult fan base that's going to hoover it up. And at a certain point, Benny was not only rock nation, but they were signed to shady

records. So they had like not only Eminem but Jay Z behind you. That's an underrated part of like why we're also familiar with. A lot of like mainstream hip hop paid more attention during that area even if now he's not associated with that. Was it Jimmy Kimmel or? Jimmy Fallon. They performed at the fucking on, they were on major

either one of those are SNL. They were like, they were performing it. They were on Ye's album. They were a fucking Yeas album, bro. Like, they're on Donda, you feel me? Like, they were amongst, and they still have that influence, but regardless, I get why

a lot of people think that that style is antiquated, but at this point, really, I think it's not as much about region as it is about just like preference, because look, there's a bunch of, we were talking about, like, the weird kids in other regions, right? And the artistic kids. L.A.'s artistic, quote-unquote, weird kids, you know what they did?

We made fucking odd future. We made Doja Cat. We made, like, things that are still super relevant. Like, our quote-unquote weird kids are actually just artistic as fuck. These other regions are just worse than us. That's what it comes down to. We're more artistic. We're more fashionable.

We set more trends. But the weird rappers from New York is not like Benny the Butcher. It's David. Well, David's... He's from New York. Damn. Yeah, exactly. Y'all can train that.

But I'm just saying, like, I wouldn't put Benny the Butcher into, like, the weird rap category. If anything, they're just... Well, A, they're from upstate New York, which is a totally different fucking world. Where maybe they wouldn't have became what they became if they were in the fish bowl that is New York City, where it's very, very hard to go against the grain. Because every time you step out the door of your house, you got people wanting to call you weird. And I feel like maybe they had a little bit more freedom to become who they... Well, New York City lost their sonic identity

Like when Swiss Beets came out They lost it to drill So, so, so, so when y'all say weird rap, What y'all are you talking about? Backpack rap? Yes, what people quote unquote define as weird rap But there's a big difference between like Even Odd Fugers seems so much more hip hop

Than by the time we get to like weird Spaced Out auto tune type rappers That still kind of fall under the umbrella Do push it and malice fall into the same category As Benny the Bush? Yes, yes, but 20 years earlier. They're just more successful But you know as auto New York artists, the biggest artists don't even got

that New York sound. Like all the songs Yes. I like what, I like the fun songs with, Mace. It don't have no New York beats. Nikki She, I wasn't on New York beats. Fabulous, all the low loving hip hop type low for the females. Well, the hottest shit in New York right now is like the

Cashco Bay. 50s. I like the Texas drill. If they came out with a West Coast sound with Drake. So like they biggest artists don't even got like the New York sound. But they would say boom bap and like that traditional hip hop is a buggy with the hoodie well check this out since we're talking some hip hop shit Munchy B and baby runner you feel me

have been popping it right now we did do this last week but yeah No we didn't yeah we did but the whole thing about it is just that runner agreed to it and now we got to find a beat that you can both agree to well no so this is what I was about to say so we already so we discussed on the news yesterday that it wouldn't be fair

if DJ Flip made a beat if he's putting up 10 Gs on Baby Runner. You feel I mean? Why when they're both rapping on the same beat? Well, because it kind of just changes the dynamic. Like if one of the producers, he'll make a beat to Ketter to his boy, bro. Did you hear what he was saying?

But you have to agree to the beat as well. But that's, well, so I have a suggestion. My suggestion would be that each of them do a joint over their, two joints over their own producers beat. So him, Baby Runner and Flip do two songs, you feel me? I'm adamantly opposed to this. They got to rap on the same beat or else it becomes a preference thing on what beat you like more.

Well, check this out. So check this out. So the third beat would be a mutual beat, you feel me? And then they wrap over the same beat. I don't want to listen to six fucking songs. That's way too much for the average person to consume. We've got to do one song, two verses. That's it.

But the thing is this. The argument was who can make a better song. So how is it fair? I don't know what fuck about that. This is rap. What do you think, Munchin? What you mean? What you mean?

What you mean? What you mean? What you mean? What you mean? No, I ain't murder moot though. What you mean? Like, be like, I don't even know how they stomach that shit. Like battle rappers that be all close to you shit and all that.

But that's a different conversation. We're talking about like, do you see this as a competition for who can do the better verse or like the rap better or who can make a better song? Because I feel like that's way more objective. I just want to, I want to hear. 32 bars from each person. What did you mean when you said, oh, fuck baby runner over?

Because that's what sparked this whole thing. What did you mean when you said? Definitely didn't mean songwriting. You meant rapping. I could, uh, both. I mean, he's storytell, but I ain't heard nothing outside of that, though. Okay, so, and to me, that's where, like,

so we could totally do it that way. I'm cool with whatever. I love battle rap and competition. But if we're going to be objective, if we do, if there's a few rounds, one of it is who can make, a better song and one of it's who's better on the beat that makes sense you feel me i think we're

already making absolutely no progress on making the one song happens i've been like let's focus on one song one beat getting them both rap on it if there's still some clarity that needs to be added which i feel like we're going to really like have an answer by the time that they each do a verse then maybe we can uh follow up on that with more but i feel like why why overcomplicated let's just Hey, my boy, rents. He said he got five. He's putting five up. Everybody that's going to gamble.

That's what I'm saying. They're talking about. Oh, boy, DJ Flip said he got 10. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. That's crazy. I wish I had 10 grand. So that's why there needs to be like, that's why there needs to be a fair judges.

Like, there's judges I'd like to suggest. For example, Gigi Gotti, I feel like to be a good judge. Matt Popper would be a good judge. Trappler Ross would be a good judge. It has to be non-biased parties that understand lyricism. and not only fucking battle rap, but songs. I think we also got to let the chat have a strong, a strong vote.

So four judges and the chat be the fifth, or three in the chat could account for 40 plus percent, whatever. Like a poll? Yeah, you tell me? Yeah. And then that could, regardless. I out there for whatever. Yeah.

Do you see it as problematic if you wrap over a beat that DJ Flip makes? Do you think that there's something inherently unfair about him making a beat given that he's both rooting for runner and has produced for him in the past. Yeah, I don't think he's, my bad. If you got a recording process with this particular do, you know what he, you know what he, you're making like some beats and it's going to be more so like, you know,

you go on YouTube, so-and-so type beats. He knows exactly what this dude trying to, you know what I'm saying? It's more for his sound. But it's not like he's just going to make a beat and then you automatically have to rap on the beat. I'm saying like, if he sends a beat pack of 10 beats, you guys are just going to have to decide on one of them, which I realize might be kind of weird since you don't really know each other like that.

Hey, I like, I'm trying to make it more a deal. You know how people would be like, call them out for the fade. You don't want to brand it up. Because they don't want to fight. They'll be like, I want $30 million to do it. I mean, I ain't, whatever. I ain't make it too difficult. Now, if you do fuck runner over on a flip beat, like, if you have a harder verse than runner

on a flip beat, that is like extra points for you. Like, you feel me? Because you are, that's in a way game, no matter what. You ain't got to get so much pumping up this way, brother. No, I'm just saying, brother. But how many beats does Flip actually produce for Runner? Like, probably not. That's his main producer.

Is he? That's his producer. How much music has he put out in the last few years? Or Runner? How many songs they made together? I can't tell you the, but I know that that's, most of the times I've seen Runner flip there, too. A lot of the, they be together a lot.

That's his artist. They, they hit me up. I mean, yeah, that's his artist. Like you work with him directly. They have all, the viral song that you was talking about that we was all talking about on this pod last week with the whole hats thing. And that's what I think was the confusion. We didn't talk about the, uh, that our discussion on the pod last week is what sparked the battle. Runner didn't say nothing until much he said, all fuck Runner over.

You feel me? Like, and then Runner responded a few days ago. And that's, and that's why I did the collab post. No, what blood want to do? Yeah. What blood was? what blood want to do no no cc now that's what got me no what blood what no no what cuss want to do that's what he said what is this is runner on a Spotify with 15,000 monthly listeners

no you got a song called loked out oh it might be a and r but you know uh big runner used to mess with thug life and two puck and all that is that one it uh oh there's a big runner yes i don't know that i don't know that i don't know what baby runners um uh Spotify pages i don't know if you got 15 k would be pretty impressive for him to me, to be honest. I'm not less than that. I'm hyped for him just because I feel like this is a good opportunity for him. Jetty got 15K or 15,000. 15K.

Yeah. I mean, for an artist that doesn't have, you know, where it's, because like Monchy's whole thing is like, people don't be slapping runner, throw a Runner song on him. And my thing is like, Runner really is a great lyricism and you really be spitting.

So it's like, can you out rap? for real. So I kind of want to see, you know what I'm saying? Both y'all say you're not, you're willing to not fucking cross boundaries and making some gang shit. Fools are willing to do a face off and get it pumped up, which could be additional cool content. I'm going to not bet on it because I think that it'll be easier for me to be objective if I don't bet on it. Yeah, I don't want to have a dog in the fight, aside from the obvious fact that Munchy doing good would be better for no jumper, I guess. No, we're, for the eyes of the public, we're obviously biased to Munchy because that's you feel me like he's on the pod with us so we can't

nobody over here could be a judge but also fuck Munchy long live the ruler well I mean there's there's a that's just good that's something that he that's a negative thing that he has to deal with anytime he dropped something full's going to be in his comments he's going to be saying that the ruler in the comments of course and like you know yeah long live the ruler for show you know maybe they just need to measure something awesome awesome as far as like battle rep No, like a ruler. Stupid. Sorry.

Can we pull up the donations on the main tab so we can still see the other tab? No, no, no, not that one. Yeah. Honestly, I think this is like a good thing. And it's cool for the city, too. Like, this is like, to me, this is really big for the city, dude. Like, this is big, dude. We need just anything to make people pay attention to L.A. is good.

And on some rap shit and, like, gangs that typically don't have the best rapport to be able to do some shit and like it could be on some hip hop shit where everybody can profit and get a good some shine from it to me that's lit i'm gonna let y'all know this too typically in battles of this nature both parties get compensated so i think both of them should get a little something off top and then whoever win the battle you feel me that's just the way i look at it that's another combo i said that then i said that then cash for participation the question is who who is going to pay this money and where is this money i'm gonna come from listen if if i mean i'm happy to like you know, divvy up the YouTube money or anything like that,

but I'm not really trying to, like, take an L on the, like, paying for it. It ain't about you. Who's going to sponsor it? Anybody that want they fucking brand mention? Red Bull music. Well, that's like a very lofty ambition, but I guess what? Even, I was able to get a Red Bull sponsorship.

I got 55 bands out of Red Bull. I got fucking 150 out of Monster. And this is me. There you go. You're MacArthur Park local crackhead. You feel me? So guess what? Yeah, they sponsor on the radar?

I'm pretty sure that through no jumper, we can get fucking a couple bands for each of the homies. We ain't got to pay. They'll pay. Ransel, whatever. I'm saying too much. Find the sponsors for me, because if we could make that happen, it would be gay. Sposters holler at me. Yeah, holler at Lush. Holl at me. Let me set up this battle. Battle rap community.

Where the fuck y'all bitch ass is that. I love y'all. This pod brought to you by Lush's homemade ketamine. Ketamine. Yeah. Ketamine. What the fuck was that? Yo, I've seen this fat black guy on TikTok who does like, he does AI remixes the songs where he'll take

like a famous corn song and turn it into like a smooth like soul song. That's a thing. Yo. I like corn way better when it's performed by like fucking Barry White. Have you not heard the EBK J-Boh like Motown style song that they'll take? No, that's not amazing. Yeah, it's incredible.

They have Patty LaBelle doing a lot of songs. I really enjoy it. So it's a name for this and what is he? AI. See you hear that though? right there, like, we're all just like super amused by AI and like, just... Yeah, man, they've been disrespecting lately with this Tupac shit. Yeah. Yeah.

But they are the Pondon. I'm just glad to SpongeBob shit is over. I hated that. Why did Uncle Foti even post it? Like, you like, that shit, cause like, damn Uncle Foti. Like I... With Tupac and a big end of Michael Jackson and yeah, what's up with you? He posted...

He posted Pock Courtside at a, at a Warriors game. You feelin me? AI, like right now, would it be... Oh, that would be. It was cool, but I'm just like with all the dead people and all that mergers. No, no, he's not, this is not really something that happened. He posted an AI of Pachors. No, but it's like the positivity.

He's like, oh, yeah, I can see Pock in the bay at the Golden State Warrior game. I could see that. I guess that would have happened to the show. So that's like more, but still, it's kind of like someone of the E40s after, I was shocked to see that. I saw like AI videos of XXXentatian, Little Peep and Juice World hanging out in like a corner store. but it was weird because like the juice and the X ones

look pretty good and then the little peep just looked like some random white kid so that was kind of confusing where do we draw the line become where it's like invasive as fuck I mean I'm so past Stephen Warren about that's like this is just where the world's going we're not going to be able to stop it is what it is you know

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I've tried it a couple times. That's when I'm like, okay, I like some black. stuff. I don't like this. That's good material to me. I'm putting the same way. Like, when I'm around in Batty's on, I'm like, man, I do not got time to watch this shit. Yeah, I even, I signed

up for a Zeus at one point to check out Baddies because I wanted to see what it was like. Or somebody I had to interview and yeah, I don't, I don't get that really at all. I like it. I don't get that really at all. He's like a straight white man. It's just Nobody needs to hear me elaborate

on why I don't give a fuck about it, but I don't get it. There's no storyline. It's not. for me it's like wait so yeah yeah i don't i don't even need to get in i've discussed how stupid i think it is before well you're already synops on taylor swifts album that's essentially described why you don't like it well taylor's kind of on her batty arc with this whole charlie xcx beef and everything which by the way there's something else i don't know that i don't like that charlie xcx album that everybody freaked out about brat she's hard i made it three songs in this is the biggest load of dog shit i ever heard of

my life i know you guys probably don't know what i'm talking about but This is garbage. I got to listen to it again. Maybe. It's because you're in your wholesome white area. You're not in your club. Yeah, but she's using an auto tune. It's like, okay, I've seen this before.

I know about Netspan. I don't need you rapping with auto tune. She's been doing that since fancy. She's been flipping that style. Yeah, that's the chick. Fancy one of her songs at some point? The only reason, Iggy Azalea is relevant is because of her hook on that song. Charlie X-X-X is on that song.

Yes, that's her. I had no idea. Yes. That's where she became popular. I found out. about Charlie XX when she had a feature on the L'OZAN album, I believe. Yeah, well, she was already like, you've super- comedy-grim.

You need to be more tapped in with the white girl. Yeah, we would tell her all the way either way. Man, don't even get me started on how she ethered Charlie on that. Charlie ain't got nothing for her. What's she going to say? She got nothing. She got to come back hard. No, she's got to come with some push-a-tee energy.

She got to expose some shit. Or call her a pedophile. That worked for Kendra. Why not? She has those allegations. She has those allegations. Taylor? Taylor was dating the 17.

year old when she was 22. In what state? How do you know? In what state? How do you know that? Who was 17 that she was dating? Google it. She had a young white man on her arm.

She could have been abusing him. Shows of that guy. We don't know. Did Taylor Swift ever date? I am mad at you player. An underage boy. Adam don't play about Taylor Swift.

You're clearing it up right now. I feel like Adam knows that if he goes hard on. her name. I feel like as something Len has drawn a really strong

line in the sand about is a Taylor Swissue. There's no there's no Taylor Snitcher. Okay, here is what I have found

and you're right. If I come home and say, hey, babe, I got the best news. Taylor Swift's a pedophile. Just go outside, smoke a spliff,

leave me alone. That's actually how that would go. She doesn't want to hear negative shit, but if it's like a viral tweet, I can send it to her and be like, isn't this crazy?

But I can't be like, look at this thing that I agree with. No, it's bad Like honestly, I made my life so much easier by being a Taylor Swift fan But I said to her She said she's kind of like Are you just faking like in the album to make me happy?

And I was like, no, and I'm going to tell you why I can prove that Because there's no way in hell if you were a Siza super fan That I could fake like in that shit That's just better than hers Ciz's way harder than Taylor Swift. I'd rather listen to Siza any day than Taylor Swift. Yeah, let's tell him. It's not even in complete.

Sizzle to me is like not even music. What? She's just whispering on beats. It sounds, I, I, I hate it with all of my heart, not familiar with that artist. I cannot listen to it. I've heard a couple of scissors songs that I like, but they're like poppy, like, real anthem songs. Like, no.

You make bangers. I've listened to a lot of says it's just whispering. Her whole, the whole, there's nothing to it. Dude, she made songs about, like, cheat on your bitch with me. That was like her whole first hit. Like, she didn't. I don't care what she does. singing about because I hate the way it sounds off rip.

It's just totally unlistenable to me, to me. It appeals to my ascensibilities. Yeah, because you dick read everything in black culture. We know. Well, I mean, I just, I like what I like. You feel like? I think black people. And getting along with black people.

Tell me, tell me some, an opinion or a preference that you have that goes against the majority black opinion. Just give me one. We've already done this. It should be easy. We already done this. It's very easy, bro.

I don't fucking use lufas. You feel what I mean? Like I just use bars of soap to my skin. They do that in private. Nobody cares about that. I don't want to fucking use a lufo. White people who shit. I used a lufo for like a year and then I stopped and everything was the same.

There you go. There's a lot of stuff, niggis. There's a lot of stuff. My lufa era was way after my staff era. There's a lot of like things that are not typical of black culture that I like as far as like metal music. You like white shit too. Yeah, I like white shit too that a lot of. black people probably would.

It's something that you don't like, like a beloved black. Like I just said I don't like Cizzo. That puts me like at all with like mainstream black culture. There's a lot of food like shit. Like some black shit you really don't like. You don't like Cicester? You don't like macaroni and cheese or something? Welcome back to the podcast, eh?

I love MacChi. I just said I hated her music like a million times. Yeah. What don't I like them? She called me a Culture Vulture, but also. Okay. So y'all got a little black. She did.

I got to be honest. I stopped watching as much hoop as I used to. Okay, you don't care about basketball. I still like it. It's cool. Like, I'll go to the game. But the fact that that's the best thing you can come up with is pretty crazy. Hey,

I'm trying to think hard over there. You really love the black. It's like, I like basketball less than I did before. What's like a, yeah, there's like black artists that are beloved that I might not be huge fans of, but like, I don't know. Like shit, I just can't think of one. You don't like the Isley brothers. Hey, bro, you grew up in a black coach.

I love the Isley brothers. I'm trying to help you. What am I not supposed to do? to like. It's not, no, it's your preference. It's not what you're not supposed to like. It's what you actually don't like.

I like it. I don't want to say I like it all. This is your homework. I've never done podcast homework before, but this is it. Okay. It's gonna make me look so bad. It does.

No, nobody gives a fuck. Issa, Trey said, shout out to Tam Kerger. Cah looks scrumdily umches. Cah. Scrumdidiliumchus.

Okay. Shout out to you. it's so crazy but shout out to v chaser um i am not oh no v chaser i'm not going to read your message here because you will not talk down on the set big popo said this cast flows way better without fake phone keep him on the news no need for him here has to be an opinion okay well that's an opinion we don't necessarily have to agree with that but um little trap star said uh or little trap star welcome to no jem members appreciate you mr john do said That sorry N-word flip should have bent off.

He was never a good fit. God damn. All right. Well, that's a preference. That's an opinion. Kitty, Kitty said West Coast music is poop. Munchy B is the best rapper out there for sure.

Philly. And you're a best rapper Skriller right now. You feel me? Shasta Philly. Shut up. Six, seven. Six. Choosy un,

choosing one. Welcome to becoming a member. Most official said if Taylor Swift wasn't white, she wouldn't sell nearly as much. Stop comparing her black artist Adam. Only reason she's in the combo with Beyonce. No, also she's like 10 times more popular than Beyonce. And I feel like if Taylor Swift was black,

that she'd probably be way more popular. If I can, there would be such a wider audience for her. Like, you know. Oh, yeah, black people really would have loved that Tim McGrath owed that she did that made her popular back in the day. Okay, I mean, for sure, she grew up in white culture and everything she's ever done has been like basically because of her whiteness.

Taylor fine, though. We're trying to hate on Taylor. If Taylor was a quarter black, she would be more popular. She would appeal to a bigger artist. I'd prefer, like her more instantly. If she gave a little bit more Zendaya. Yeah, fire. Has Zendaya ever made music?

Yes, she has, unfortunately. Was it when she was a little kid, though? Teen. Because she started off as like a YouTuber, right? I've seen a video one time. Yeah. You got a song replay? Yeah, she says YouTube before Disney.

I think around the same time. Probably, yeah. Yeah. That was Zendaya. She's fired. day or dia? Dea? Dea? I will say, yeah, Dea.

Do you watch Euphoria Seasons 1 and 2? I have. Okay, we got something in common, Tam Burger. A.O. Munchy, Katie said, A.O. Munchy, piece that shit up with wag. Despite all the shit, he said, bro, it was only content. Oh, my

God. Please, please don't send us off on this tangent. Bullie breaker said, Adam said that T. Swift had the biggest album of all time and then proceeded to list how she released a 20 different ways, man. She finessed the system. MJ on top. Listen, I mean...

She's done it several times too. Yeah, but we give credit to Travis Scott's album sales when he was playing the bundle game. She's just playing the game that there is for her to play. We respect the shooter around here. I was saying, yeah.

Four million units. You got to suck a dick, honey. And the other thing, too, is I still feel like she would have the best selling first week even if she had not done the vinyl. Her audience is... Think about she feels...

On Saturday, she got me and my family to go to a packed movie theater to basically watch lyric videos for her album. We all paid to do this. I'm sorry, Drake, as big as Drake is, nobody's going to the fucking AMC to watch certified lover boy in lyric videos.

I enjoyed it more because it was satisfying to my wife and child, but yeah, it was cool. Was it better than Circus Maximus? What is that? You didn't see that, Travis Scott. He also released a movie in AMC before you... Not much of a Travis Scott fan myself.

Yeah, that's... Okay, maybe this is another take that goes against I'm not a huge Travis Scott there. There you go, yeah. I do love the Astro World album, though. I cannot say that, yeah. It's lit. It's lit.

Burz and Trump saying Brian McKnight was an amazing tape. I know longer like him. Astro World for me was definitely like one of many pivotal moments for me where I realized that I was losing interest in mainstream hip-hop because that is a very, very famous album. I do not give all fuck about it. Really? That was so many, like, chopped and screwed throwback tracks to that straight

H-town vibe. He really like... California. You don't like California. Houston 4-I don't even like the Red Hot Chili Peppers song, Californication. Oh, damn, Adam. You're not a real white man. No, yeah. He's not. They are one of the gayest bands ever. Mr. Bacon Man said,

and sent $10, by the way, said, Adam's suggestion, read Superchats somewhat throughout the pod. This will in turn allow some of us to send more as rebuttles to your response. That is a good point. But also, I mean, usually a good pod for us. We just kind of get going and interrupting to read our donations.

You treated like the movie credits. You just read out the end, huh? Yeah, I mean, I feel like reading it throughout is a little. That makes sense what that person you said. It's a little distracting. Yeah. Tom Cruise mom shoes said, Munchy B's favorite Taylor Swift song is Bad Blood.

No, you could say that when you battle runner, you could say like, I don't fuck with Taylor's, I fuck with Taylor Swift, but I could never be a bad blood. Oh, man. Damn. Right. Even though you don't get it because you probably never heard that song.

No, no, no, no. That's a bar. I'm not going to laugh. I get it, but I can't use it now. They got fed to me by the check. Yeah, well, I'm mad that he's not using my bar that I've suggested seven times by now. Yeah.

He'll be all right with us. I think it would have changed it on it. Oh, also he said, uh, oh, never forget Lush is a known NK sympathizer. Ant, how can you fall asleep next to him knowing that? Yeah, it's true. We should definitely, for sure, like, keep that. That's a very solid point.

We need a deep dive into Lush's NK history. I encourage it. Yeah? I encourage it. What the thing is that? What the thing is that you might sometimes see Hispanic gang members tag up or rep on their social media. I'll never say something like, that is cool.

What the fuck I look like? That shit sounds stupid as hell. I'm against killing, really, anyone for their religious for their race so sure that's out do a do a deep ass fire bring all that out bring it whatever you got out kitty also said Adam are you going to speak

about them cheeks that R&B was bouncing around Wax said bet so bet please yeah I mean I'm gonna be real Wack posted a video of him and R&B catching a workout and if his intent was to convince us that she does not have a BBL then this was a poorly chosen

video because that shit was kicking I love it I think it looks great. I'm going to be real. We got to do a scar check because anybody who's real familiar with BBL knows that there's scars. I'm not going to weigh in on this

because Wack already threatened for me for my statement about R&B in the past. So I'm just going to leave, yeah, I'm going to leave this one alone. Never in my life have I felt like Wack was being less respectful of my intelligence than when he acts like that's not augmented. For a woman in her 40s,

I mean, come fuck on, whack. R&B is a beautiful way. She's beautiful. And she's an example of someone. So you're trying to tell me you ain't seen nobody. I don't seen. I don't know her business or what she got going on, but you're trying to tell me you ain't seen nobody in a 40s with a body like hers?

That's absolutely what I'm saying, yes. No, there's no way. The roundness that she's rocking is some other shit. I'm just being real. I don't know where you be. For me, as a plastic surgery expert to some extent, I'm just, I ain't going. Now, if he wants to bet money, that's great. We can bet money.

I'll bet money on that. I'm not much of a bed-in-man. But I'll take free money. I said you would be a plastic expert. I've fucked many hundreds of girls with fake asses. I know how they sit. I know what they look like. Where do the best fake boobs come from?

I don't know. I don't pay attention to the surgery angle. The old fake asses in the nose. Oh, yeah. I love them. I think it's the best plastic surgery. Yeah. The big titties are up there too, but I mean,

BBL is an amazing invention. Yeah, I'll say everyone that all the women getting their body done and doing what they want to do with it, you feel I mean? Be independent. And our natural queens. I assume. I assume. I don't know.

I'm waiting until I get old to get plastic surgery so I could be fine in the caskey. A little milf and all that. Man, we got some old ones too. That body looked like a BBL. That ain't a BBL. My girl is the hell of that. She ain't got on BBL yet. You know me?

I feel like if you make it's like 40 and then you get the plastic surgery, like use some fake boobs or something, you're going to. Lush, when your father passes away, is there a BBL in the future? definitely for sure dad's take around I think he will find solace in knowing that you should tell him that he will probably pay for it now still

if he got to see it maybe you got to let me take a ride though I'm saying like yeah I don't know if you know I'm not gonna test out his investment I found some I found some Viagra my dad's room actually

what I found some biagra man you said you know he said your dad got a test and I said I found some biagra in my dad's He probably takes that just to beat off. So I don't know what they'd be doing, but they're in the 80s. I found he got a prescription, not only Viagra, multiple different ones. So, yeah.

Jop's turning up. Wait a minute. Sev said, did y'all slide for Black Dave getting slept in Harlem? Flackle will be back soon, so run them no-jumper gym streams because it's a hot, rush era, and the rest of the piece in New York drill. Wait a minute. So, all right, for those who don't know, Black Dave is a dude that we all know from Harlem, uptown.

Manhattan, et cetera, who skateboarder, he has a thrash or my war, which is pretty insane that he has one of those because not many people do. But they're saying he got slept. Who slept black Dave? I need to see the video. A lot of people getting whipped this weekend. Oh, was it a while ago? Well, he got kicked out of Korea, damn near for harassing random people, but I don't think

I saw him get slipped. Or I saw him get slept and I'm so burnt out that I forgot. I don't know. Um, is there a chance that Flacco is going to come back, like not hot? Well, I feel like he might not be gone long enough for him to truly get hot, but he's going to at least get hotter. But is hotter flaco? Like, what's that really?

We need to see hot flaco for it to really be. Listen, I'm, I'm so unbelievably ready for the hot flaco era. Wait, I think, all right, so I guess, I guess don't show this on the camera, but hit the, hit the X so we can hear it. Okay, where? Let's walk away, man.

Where? Where? What, what's your for, bro? What? What? What's your for? No, you reaching for some shit, huh? Yeah, come on, bro.

All right. Oh, come on, bro. Oh, damn. Oh, damn. You okay, boo? You're okay, boo? Ha ha ha, ha. Br.

Bye, bro. It's sold, bro. That's a toothed and booty Wait, how long ago was that posted? Oh, it was over a year ago God, how the fuck? I probably did know about it and just forgot about it, but damn, they knocked my boy out.

That's this dude Black Day. Remember I was saying that the first Ice Spice piece of content was on no jumper? He went to her neighborhood and did a whole video with her and everything. I didn't know that existed though. Damn. Poor guy.

What is that? He's a man. Shit, if it could happen to Pimp Bipipi, it could happen to anybody. At the end of the day. What happened to Pimp Bipin Pee? I mean, happens the best of us. I'm not packed out during a manicure.

Hey, hey. Hey, look, Pimp, Pee. He brought it on itself. But Dave is out here live streaming and, I mean, we don't really know, but he's saying, like, what hoodies from and shit. So. I got knocked out by almighty suspect. It happens to the best of us. You went to bed or you got dropped?

While his dad film. I saw stars. I don't even lie. That seemed like a, like, a fake fault. Like you just like, let's just get this shit on. That was just a man down to give up. You know what? That was round three.

That was round three. I was done after round two. Hey, Lus, niggas be doing that. They keep falling so the fight could be over. Lus took his own back fade. They played the egg. For sure. He had to get back for the other guy who just got knocked out that he didn't remember at that moment.

No, because after the second time, I was like, all right, we good. He's like, no, I'm an habitual fade junker, right? And I was like, all right, fool. He was really mad. That was after the second one, and then that's what you all seen. So what the first two rounds go like? If that was the third one, they didn't go much different.

I ain't going to say they went, like, significantly different. You feel of me? Like, I got knocked on my ass three times. I'm not going to lie. I've heard people basically say that, like, Krip Mag be fighting like that. Just like, throwing. He'll, like, he won't turn down a fade,

but he'll kind of, like, get knocked down and then he sort of, like, be acting like he's more hurt than he is. Like, he's just kind of, doesn't maybe have his whole heart in it, At a certain point. Let me explain though that. Which I'm not saying that's true. No, but people said that and I'm sure.

But, but he went on record like because Braves was one of the ones that was like he was in the dorm with him and he was like, man, he was in there yelling and shit, all like that. Like when people was like getting on him, yeah, ah, okay, okay. And the Crip Mac came out and it was like, shit, so what? But I caught my face, though. So he admitted to it, but he said he caught all his face. No, actually he lied at first and then, you know, he lied at first and then, you you know, Brick baby backed his law,

knowing it was a law because he was right here, or not the dorm. Which then Brick later revealed. My thing is this, though, I thought that fools are supposed to respect whether you win or lose as long as you fight, you fight. I used to say that when I was done.

Long did you get down, you got to win more than you lose, bro. Apparently that, no, you're not wrong. No, but that's, okay. In M.MA as well, do you remember when Jose Canseco had an MMA fight? Yep. He tapped the strikes and it's ugly.

Like, ain't nobody giving you no respect for doing that. But that's all. Also, like, Wences not. But he's like, like that's, first of all, old-ass unroided. This is Jose Kinsego,

circa 92, Bash Brothers era, roided up. He's probably going to not tap out that quick. Hey, if Jose Konseco and Pimp, P could get knocked out, then it could happen to anybody. And Black Day.

Hey, I'm Jose Kesego mixed with EBK J-Boh. That's all I got to say. I'll leave you with a halo. People got to stop playing these games. And my sandwich needs some mayo. Hey. Hey, and they go play because he got him to my street some mid from him. To somebody breathe on him.

It should happen. I know for sure. That's how that other big eye, little E.T. creature dude, he just got caught slipping. I think y'all had him up here. Who? Wasn't that? The dude we was talking about in the chats. Remember I was telling you, like, he'd be dissing people hoods and they caught him slipping.

Who got whooped on? Who there? I don't know his name. He's having a big, big green eye, little ugly little creature looking dude. Oh, that little fool that was on community? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I don't even know anything about that guy, and I had never seen him before until I've seen that.

That shit looked fake to me, though. They're like yelling at him. He's like, it's hard to tell now to his sometimes. I don't know. I was chasing his ass. I guess who would fake that? Like, he'd be trolling and dissing peoplehoods doing like the same shit.

Kind of like a J-Cat thing. We've got to tell these J-Cats to stop banging his, but I guess at that point that would probably really fuck. That would really fuck up the gang ecosystem. But it's like the jewels in their hood. And it's like y'all letting them down. That's my whole thing. Like, I'm not even like, if I'm ever around like my homies

and they're playing with somebody that got like special needs, I'm gonna check this shit out of them, bro. Don't have no special needs on camera dissing ops and acting like he from the set. Like, what's funny about that shit, bro? We all got a slow homie or some J-Kad homies, but I ain't trying to exploit them. I mean, somebody called me about that PIMCP video freaking out,

like somebody who doesn't know anything about street shit. And I had to tell him, I'm like, one thing I've learned and the whole gang thing is that you might be ops with a 15 year old kid. You might be ops with a handicapped person. Like, when you enter the gangbanking thing, there's no saying that you're going to get the most high quality ops.

That's a pretty fucking... Very few people go to Harvard or become like, you know, NFL superstars and then enter the gang world and are catching fades on the block. You're usually fighting and beefing with people that are just kind of regular old people. off the block. You're going to get a little bit of everything.

I'm handicaps on the block. Some handicapped people can fight. They got extra strength. He's a different kind. I ain't seen a lot of handicapped. Like every now and then, it might have been one or two growing up. And ain't a lot of handicapped people in the neighborhood. But you're like old or something.

Like young handicaps. Yeah, once you reach a certain age, though, and we'll start getting into accidents and this or that or get shot or this or that. A lot of ways to become more retarded, yeah. For sure, the retards from my high school were not the, types that we're going to join gangs. They're going to be a retort.

You don't know that though because if gangs were around, they might have been down. Exactly for the camaraderie. They had games out there in New Hampshire, man. You got to get it set off. No jump, no, no, no jumper. They have motorcycle gangs out there. For sure, there's some, not where I grew up,

but for sure in New Hampshire as a whole, yeah. Yeah, there's, I don't remember. H.A. cracking off out there. Honestly, though, where my mom is from, Laconia, that's like the spot where they would have all those crazy motorcycle meetups and shit. So I'll see that once in a while out there. All right, I gotta keep doing these.

What chapter are you from, brother? All right, Q Nahanas sent 10 bucks and says shout out to lush Aunt Munchy. Love to see N-words beat the system and get the bag. Crazy. I noticed I wasn't in that. Shout out to you, though. Crazy, I heard about Munchy all the way in New York from a chick named Taryn. Real N-word salute.

Keep this cast and add suss. You know a Terran. Yeah, I know two, two Terran. You're past work? One more time? Was that your past work? No. No.

Take a Terran or two down? You can take a first class light debausting with it? What about a tarantactyl? Oh, you crazy. It's a dinosaur. DJ, DJ said, Lush. I know, a taradocle. To think that a terran doctor is a dinosaur.

Lush, are you worried about getting caught up in the whole Rich Trapper versus Everybody drama? I'm going to be real with you. are way above. Just talking about Rich Trapper on this podcast. We have to do less beefing with bums. That's the only thing that separates us from those other guys, the zesty ones, the cripples. They're the ones who beef with nobody's all day and think that it's going to get them some views.

We've got to elevate. We've got to talk about good topics. We've got to find new guests to interview. We are not focused on the past. Agree. Bullie breaker said, speaking to Sneako, how do y'all feel about Adam saying he doesn't believe that the government dropped gun crates and drugs in the hood back in the dead. You're tripping.

I was definitely dead. The pressure is on you to find any sort of evidence of the government dropping literal crates of guns and drugs. I can understand the argument that the CIA funded groups who ended up essentially sending Coke, but you're saying that the government dropped off crates of guns and drugs in the hood. I would love to even hear from one person who has a memory of them. What about Barry Seals? First of all, read a book called A D. dark pyramid by Gary Webb.

Second of all, not only in Los Angeles in Richmond, California, in the early, or late 90s, there is a train that mysterious, a military train mysteriously got robbed and a surplus of automatic weapons that are military grade that were available for nowhere in the streets. You can't even buy them from other states or all of a sudden overpopulating the Bay Area. I know all of y'all from the game. So you think that the government had to be involved in order for some people to steal a bunch of guns off of a train. So you think the military is negligent enough to allow something like that to happen while simultaneously happening in other disenfranchised black communities throughout the country

and brown communities. What evidence do you have that is not true? Well, the burden of proof is on the accuser for the record. Well, the accused of the pale white horse. You guys are telling me to read a lot of books, but nobody's giving me any sort of evidence that this ever happens. I'm playing. I'm not even going to ask chat GBT because I already know where they're not. You say no, your co-hosts They're fucking fried. No, I already asked you. Spoiler, there is no evidence of this. Now, you could say that the CIA funded or had these groups that were involved.

They were funding groups that were trafficking, cocaine, and a lot of them may have ended up. But they had a specific agenda for funding an overseas war in Iran. Okay, but again, this person donated and says, I'm crazy because I don't believe that the government dropped off crates of guns and drugs in the hood back in the day. I mean, they, they was dealing with freeway. Rick Ross. You don't think that shit. I've had conversations with Freeway Rick Ross and never has he said that they were dropping off crates of guns and drugs in the hood.

Have you all discussed this? What you mean? Well, I feel like he probably would have mentioned that. In this case, he was dealing with the CIA. A lot of the drugs that he had out here, he brought this shit to the West Coast and he was dealing with the CIA. Who was his club? That's what he was dealing with? He should mention that in the interview. What was the entire show snowfall about, dude? What is the entire?

Okay, so now you're telling me to watch a TV show. You've given me. multiple books and a TV show that I have to watch, but no actual proof for any... Like, shouldn't someone have seen this take place? Well, I mean, I just think you've heard of the Iran concert. I think you heard about, like, the Ronald Reagan administration. In what way did that involve them dropping off crates of guns and drugs on the hood?

As far as dropping... That's how Rick got off. They was giving him drugs. If he's plug... If the CIA is literally doing... And he had to tell on the CIA, do you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, okay, y'all trying to put me in jail and enslave me to the shit, but what about your CIA dealing with him?

I just looked at Freeway Ricky. The closest thing to what you guys are describing is like a clip that says Freeway Ricky's plug was a CIA operative? I mean, yes. Question mark, question mark, question mark. Do you not count the CIA as the government, like an arm of the government, though? No, yeah. It's a central intelligence agency.

Okay, but again, we're getting very far away from the accusation that this person put. So again, it's on you guys to find me evidence of crates of guns and drugs being dropped off in the hood by the sea. Adam's saying picks or it didn't happen. I'm just saying give me something. I can't wait to talk about it. You told me to read a book, a couple books and a TV show. That's going to take me a few weeks.

All of it is like conspiracy theories. I mean, we could just get conspiracy theories. I'd much rather have somebody that grew up in that time. You know what I'm saying? We can't get a CIA man for you to interview? I mean, so. CIA. They'll tell you heroin was imported.

You know what I'm saying? By the government into the black communities, because of the Black Panthers because of the uprising of them. Not just heroin. I would love to see some evidence of that as well. You never saw a marriage against it. I'm just the kind of person where if somebody makes a claim

that seems kind of outlandish, then I expect them to come with evidence or anything, really. Keep in mind, I'm not even using chat jvety yet. I haven't even looked to it. There's a name of a specific operation that the government had to take down the Panthers. There's a specific operation.

And it was mainly based on changing their public perception and causing dissemination within their ranks. What does that have to do with this claim of the gun crates? He wants explicit proof or nothing. Yeah, I feel like, you know, let's focus on this. This is one simple accusation that I don't feel like there's any proof for it. I've gone out of my way to look for evidence. I'm just saying I think they're going off, they said back in the day.

So a lot of shit that I've know that have been said, like what people dealing with CIA and police officers back in the day, that might be what they alluding to. I mean, like, yeah, for sure. I don't know why so far fetched. We know the government, they've always been criminals. How you think the Kennedy's got? Thank you.

Thank you. Oh, there it go. Thank you. Coyntile Pro. Thank you. Pointell Pro was them dropping off crates of guns and drugs. Literally, yes. Causing a dissension among the ranks of the Black Panthers.

Yes. They also killed young Fred happening in his bed with his pregnant wife. You know what I was giving them guns for the wars and shit over there. I am not in any way like closed mind. it to the idea that these things could have happened, I just would need evidence or some kind of testimonial to believe it. Do you believe that the popularization of gangster rap

was somewhat of a deliberate thing that was going to cause certain negative effects in the black community? Do you think that that was deliberately done? I understand that you probably feel like that is what it feels like happened, but no, I think that they were mostly driven by the, the record labels were driven

by the incentives of capitalism. Okay, and bearing in mind that whatever the repercussions are, if there are certain ones that are negative to the community, but they are beneficial or the labels on a financial level, it might even be more advantageous, right? I would suggest that, like, right now, there's nothing stopping artists from coming out

and promoting positive themes and the next arrested development. Seems like, you know, there's never been a time where it would be easier for that sort of music to become popular, and yet that almost never happens. But you know why? Because when we fucking interview them on major platforms,

they get way less views than the artists that are fucking talking about that are barely artists are actually just fucking gang members and killers. Because the people are really not that interested. Correct. And that's the primary reason. So right there, you don't need a conspiracy. No, that's just how it is. But this is the long-term effects. This is the long-term effects of the popularization of a certain genre and the dumbification.

That's just the preferences of the people. But what's crazy is... And there are tons of examples that go in other direction. most popular rapper in the world right now. I'm saying. And there's absolutely nothing. There's nothing within the music industry that tried to thwart him in any way. If anything, everybody bent over backwards to promote him.

Well, and that's the exact kind of music that the industry wanted to promote the same way the entire industry rally behind this clips album rollout. But because there always has to be, if you look historically, no matter what, there's going to be one mainstream artist that they allow or a few that they allow to get through. But that they allow and not that the fans actually just embrace that music. First, I mean, for sure.

And look, of the quote unquote big three, two of them make very, very conscious music. And the majority of Drake's music is relatively conscious. But there's all kinds of other examples, too. Tyler the creator is one of the biggest artists. Somebody like Travis Scott is not talking about gang bangers or promoting anything crazy like that. So, so yeah, obviously I don't, there is nothing stopping artists from promoting, you know, pro-social content in their music. Except for the fact that the fans in large parts seem to, you know, it's easy for me to understand why. NWA became much, much bigger than Public Enemy.

Well, not only was the music better, but, you know, the average fucking dork-ass white fan probably wanted to hear more about gaming and the revolution. It doesn't take a music industry conspiracy to make that the case. At the time, first of all, public enemy was way more popular than NWA at first. Like,

when NWA dropped straight out of Compton, it takes a nation of millions to hold us backs by public enemy was smacking them on the charts. They could barely even get distribution nationally for fucking, for ruthless records at that point. It was the whole way that music culture changed. Black power music was popular

at that time. Black sheep, a tribe called quest. That was mainstream acts. These are like the, like you said, a rest of development. This is the prevailing content. In-Rat music. Why do you think that changed? Well, that's great. More competition from gangster-ass music. Right, exactly. And why

did that become prioritized? And why did that become the only thing at a certain point? Because it sold better and the people reacted to it. No. At first, it didn't. And we, just even acknowledge that to this day. Because the revolution, it fizzled out. And it thugging, you're upsetting gay. And think about how much was in the way of gangster music becoming popular.

It was like damn near banned in the United States. There are cops going to NWA shows and shutting them down, left and right. There was the advent of the parental advisory label on records and, you know, young kids can't go into, young kids go into a storm by a public enemy record and they can't go into the storm by NWA record. That just made it sexier. The parental advisory, now we knew what album was going to be hot. Oh shit, two live crew, they're banned from stores. It's almost like you're saying that the people were more intrigued by content that was offensive and edgy.

And it doesn't involve a record industry conspiracy. I mean, yeah, that's what I think what just really was going on, just like public enemy, you know, they ushered in a time period and the NWA came in and ushered in a time period of what kids, you know, they age and poverty was going through, you know, like what F the police and all low, you know. That's a way stronger message. People wasn't, like at that time in a nation, people wasn't trying to hold on to revolution and black power. People, you know what I'm saying, was so used to poverty and the shit was going on and, you know what I'm saying, the violence,

and then with crack and all that shit. Well, crack is actually a very good point that that really changes the overall texture of urban environments. America as a whole. And that started right here, and that all goes back to that same error we're talking about. We're talking about the 80s. We're talking, this is one.

the quote unquote is more that guns and drugs being dropped off in the hood is a way overly simplified term of what happened but it is it is the accusation that I was accused of being crazy for not believing so I am sure that next week once you've had time to sit down with chat dbt you are going to provide me evidence of these crates of guns and drugs and any other evidence that you bring to the table will essentially be you admitting that you were wrong about that specific claim Okay, Munchy We don't see Well, again, the burden of proof

Is on the accuser DJ, Munchy Have you ever talked on the podcast About how you and Young Hefe met First met And was there any tension? No, it wasn't no tension I told a story on my YouTube channel

And he did too Okay, I have not seen that That sounds in Jersey Mm-hmm Okay, so people go search those out Tap, E&T says So Much Fun was the name Of the Thug album Lush

Yeah, that was the 2019 release Where there's like the the face the green yeah yeah yeah the the the long vertig uh drone shot that had a bunch of people in it amazing album for sure great great album donnie blitz said on zaddy gang brandon his money adam he's more knowledgeable than all these one-trick ponies in that room right now keh shout out to you donnie uh cue said my dad did a song with the beach boys it was a hit they did movies also but those things caused them to fall off going commercial with as a sellout move back then what song did he do with the beach boys i love the beach boys i love the beach boys

i grew up on the beach yeah literally brian wilson's one of my idols please elaborate on that also involved in the manson murders i got to watch the brian wilson documented i meaning to watch that for a while i heard it's so good yeah it's definitely worth a good it's a solid watch and uh yeah the beach boy shit they revolutionized psychedelic music as far as mainstream pop went back in the day so hell yeah yeah i grew up listening to the beach boys more than anybody out there could probably understand it was really like a point of my life where I don't, I just thought that there were just, they're always where the beach boys and there's a beach, so there's going to be boys at the beach and she, surfing you as well. Yeah, it's like, I had to get much more older before I realized like, oh, this is a real

band. Like, it's not just like any old dude hanging out of the beach. That shit hit different out here. I grew up like less than a mile from the beach and Barbara Ann. That's my first thing I, song I ever remember. I was two years old. My kid thinks that song's about her. Parker, and I sing it. And I sing over it so she can't tell that they're not saying Parker. That's a fire song. Berto said, Anhefe looks like a Neapolitan ice cream sandwich. Okay.

Cute. Yo, that's pretty. No, these shats be having drugs, and if you don't know what you look like, they'll tell you. Yeah,

but look at his exact outfit with the pink, the white, and then the... It is funny, but I kind of hope that Burdo's a girl saying some shit like that because it's a little bit like pauseworthy of a statement. Young Luce said,

Hey Lush, your name dropped the band's suffocation the other day. Who else you'd be jamming? I've been listening to, static X lately. Shouts to static X. I definitely have not thought about static X since the 90s, for sure. First of all, shots to suffocation. They're a good band, too, but I

shot it out Suffocate. That's a different band. You feel in me? Like Death Corps, if you know about it, Bay Area, real dark metal shit, you feel on me? Yeah. I'd be in all kinds of shit. Come on, fool. Oh, man, I want to listen to Static X. One, nothing's

wrong with me, two. That's that song, right? That's, dude. Whoa, you got some bangers. Y'all I want to listen to that shit right now, but I can't because we're on stream. My ice stream, man, that's so I hate that. You know, that's all that's on the radio nonstop when I was in high school. It wasn't because I was even on the radio was because when I was locked up in camp. They would play that?

It was this one Indian police named G-mo. That's what he used to wake us up to in boot camp, like at four or three in the morning. Like, if somebody fought or did some bullshit that he didn't like or he wasn't on board, he'd get a call at home, L-A-day bullshit and that camp. he'd come in one in the morning. One, nothing's wrong with me. You like, nothing to fuck. That is a crucial forgotten new metal song, man.

Sure. I got to get. Especially with the popularization in a new metal, I feel like they might be able to get some decent touring revenue going right now. They're probably still torn and they probably never stopped. They had another one, let their bodies hit the floor. No, that's a drowning band. Yeah.

And Offset basically sampled that and remissed it, and that's the most popular song in a long time. Yeah. So they had both of them songs. You had another dudes that come in. and play that one. Military people. There's been several rap remixes

of let the bodies hit the floor over the years. Shit. Oh, yeah, doesn't there a 3-6 version or something? Yeah, well, and there's Killer Kyleone with Bun B. He has a fucking amazing Well, he does, it's really just him flipping the hook, but yeah, anyway, there's a lot

of them. Adam, Big Dumps said Adam, Glazer of Chart Toppers. What does that mean? He's a swifty shit. I mean, but besides her, who else? We're like debating B, and Taylor Swift.

We were kind of like chart glazing a bit of that. That's kind of like the sad state of affairs is that like a lot of the best albums of this year are not hip-hop albums, even for us as expressed hip-hop fans. There's actually some sad truth of that statement. But also, I mean, listen, if you like hip-hop and R&B, well, okay, if you like R&B, that doesn't be rapha album's fire. Like, you know, that.

To me, I don't understand how, like, that album sounds way more like the kind of R&B that I fuck with than fucking Sizzle. I don't see why Sizz is catching so many shots today. I'm just saying, like, I know her shit is considered R&B is, like, very, very popular. I hate it, but I listen to Justin Bieber. I'm like, oh, this is an R&B I like. She called him a culture, bro. We know what.

That has nothing to do. I had already shit on her by the time she said that. Well, guess what? Like, anyone that says some dumb-ass shit, like, that just doesn't know what's up. But it don't mean that. No, you can totally call me a corporate vote. That's a fine opinion. Like, she still got slapped to me.

Shit sucks. Keep going down on that list. Ben Her Over sent $10 and said, Ben watching the pod sends phone and redacted. I remember when Adam said he wasn't sure if the show would work and look at y'all now. Best NJ cast in a long time. And as always, love from Lakewood, California, home of the first Denny's. Five, six, two.

Love the Lakewood Mall. Shout out. And home of the legendary GBO Gaston. Actually, I appreciate that. That's a very nice comment. And yes, there's been times where we thought this podcast might disintegrate, but I feel like we're doing pretty good right now. Philip Diomini said it's so manufactured when rappers get a bunch of tattoo shop tats.

You need some hood kitchen tats to be more authentic. Yeah. But then again, man, sometimes if you're looking at people's tattoos. Yeah, I got some tasks. I wish I could take back. Yeah. Yeah. I got some amazingly embarrassing tats.

I feel like white guy with jail tattoos is not the same as black guy with jail tattoos. Because, like, you could just see our shit alone. better. Well, yeah, and also like some of the meanings kind of don't look as good in society. But I'm just saying like, you know, a shitty tattoo on a black guy, it's kind of hard to tell how shitty it is.

A white guy is pretty easy to pick out how bad it is. That's for sure, like, hit harder on like skin that's, unless you feel me, depends on the color, yeah. Hey, bro, all tattoos got to come from Joe ain't shitty though. I didn't, I didn't see some real words. Probably worse on average than

No, not all the time. I'm not saying all the time. Particularly some Mexican fools that get stupid down. Be busy. With jailhouse stats. I've seen some shit. For sure. Drop the gem said,

I'm just a caring white man with work ethic, wondering where I got to go to get a Tam sandwich. Tam burgers. Rosecrans essential. That's not safe. Burgers in the chat. You white, you might be able to swing it.

No, go take picture next to Kendrick Meryl and get a burger. You could for sure, like, yeah, like go by there. Like, is it still cool, too? Because it totally was for a while. Bro, people are acting like tourism. They just how they do with the net mural. They do that with the Kendrick down, yeah. Guwop has been a member for five months.

He said, Tam, baby, I can't do Roaton, but I got a Lake Michigan time sharing Gary. Will that work? Okay. Shout out to you with the financial planning. That's how you shoot a shot right there. I like that. Time share is fired.

Time share. And Gary, G. And Gary Indiana is pretty janky. Yeah. Spready Yib's going to take it around out there. Big Dump said, Tam, the MVP, y'all got to get respect that woman up there. You probably, ince. You've probably, ints is valued, Tam, and you find AF.

I don't know what. Thank you, sir. We don't know what that means, but. I think he met it in a nice way. I appreciate it. It's a compliment. Tam is getting the chat infusion of confidence. I love you guys.

She's walking out of here with a hopping her skip. Heels on high. Is that how he said? Paper chaser said, Adam, can we get Fleece Johnson on the Adam and Wax show? And did you ask Fleece about his step-by-step video on how to turn someone out? I mean, he told me a lot of game about how you turn a man into a sissy, but I'm not personally interested in that.

And, yeah, I don't know. I feel like Munchy and Ant probably wouldn't really vibe with Fleece too good. Lush, I could see. Oh, pass. Yeah, I'm definitely. down to fucking chop some game about some hooty bandit activities for please he's gonna chop your ass up

I would hate to be a sally Hot Facts with Robert Reese sent 10 bucks and said How about Adam let the viewers donate money And the total amount of money goes to the winner Have the viewers donate every day Until it actually happens and that's where you get your total That's interesting Maybe do like a

Like a specific stream where we I don't know You got HR in the chat for real Yeah You can get his suggestions for real I like you. Yeah. D.T. West said drop some rap interviews.

Shit's dry. I was just a member. Someone is smoking you right. Yeah. But shout out to him. He's doing good. Keeps crawling down. I'm not getting into anybody.

He's trying to stir up hate there. But yeah, we've been doing many interviews per week. I know the standard is very high for us to do an almost impossible amount of interviews every week. But we're doing all we can. This guy said top five. And then a word I'm not going to say that begins with C-O-O-N-S of the 21st century. Charles Barkley, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, Jesse Lee Peterson, poetic flaco, and the Black Belt, Brandon G-PT.

That is a wild one right there, man. Man, I'm going to take flaco off that list. Yeah, then. Why you put flak on there? The fact that you included Supreme Court Justice, Clarence Thomas, is pretty funny to me. Well, he's Listen,

normally not something I would really weigh in on but yeah, Jesse Lee Peterson God damn, that guy's a piece of work. Man, on site A

said, Lush said Munchy blood type is Inglewood O. negative. You out of pocket lush. I did not say that. I did not say that.

Yeah, we were talking about blood types and I said I didn't know my blood type. Oh yeah, no, I said he was, I said his blood type was Inglewood.

That was the joke. That's funny. Yeah. He said it was so negative. Oh, man. Jason Avocado said, this is your chance to talk about, Blank.

What's the update? Y'all seeing him in Blasey beefing. Y'all tore him up in that courtroom. Shout out to the B team and the eight trade team. Nah, I ain't talking about Homeboy anymore. You can do it every once. I don't give a fuck.

I ain't talking about all that. And I did see him beefing with Blasey, but. Shouts of Blasian. There's really diminishing returns and commentating on this sort of beef. I'm going to be real with you. Kai 2A became a,

member shout out to them drop the gems sent five bucks i'd have to agree with everyone else adam please add almighty suspect to the tuesday show interesting interesting i do there's a a repeating monday podcast with munchy being almighty suspect that's been going on so if you want to get your sus-fix that might be the place to go i don't know um tap en t said how about you and rimo asked the next guest from chicago about the trains dropping crates off here recently yes again i would love to hear about that recently. Hey, hey, if that's going on, I would consider that to be one of the most interesting things going on in the culture right

now in the streets. Send us a video so we can convince Adam. Yeah, I would love to know more about that. I'm going to look at Chiracology and take a little dive. Can you imagine how viral the crate of guns being left in Chicago would go? There would already been like 10 video shot. There would have been like video shot with the crates.

So good. Daniel Inka said, Lush, can you interview New Jersey artists? Check out the Osama Esteban. He's affiliated with Fettywob. Just came home from a bid and got the streets on fire. I fucks with Jersey heavy. And I'm MacArthur Park.

We got that Fettie Wob discography on repeat, best believed. Lush shot that discography up before he came here. Hey, can you scroll because I cannot read the stuff at the bottom because of the camera. God damn it. Okay. Joker 8198, the church committee investigated the CIA's involvement. and the committee didn't find any evidence of creative drugs being dropped off by the CIA,

but they had some involvement with arranging transport. I would love to learn more about that. Did you hear how fucking stupid that? Like, anyways, no, but thank you for that context. I'm not saying that's a dumb thing to say, but just anyway. Right, okay. E. Boogie said, they said blood is Neapolitan.

NFA looking like Big Weld. I don't have no idea what Big Weld is, but shout out to him. Reap Cash sent 10 bucks. Did you talk about the LSU football player who unalived himself because the police lied on him and had him facing murder charges. Look it up if y'all can.

We should talk about it on a future episode. I kind of got a dip soon, but that sounds insane. News tomorrow for sure. Damn, that's fucked up. Plus me back. I was just thinking about the smoking awesome ecstasy song earlier. Is that, uh, that's it. That's the bottom. Two more members. Miss Brianna G. And John Wickey, shout out to y'all for becoming members. We appreciate

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