No Jumper - Lil Weirdo On Being From San Diego, Lefty Gunplay, Getting Off Probation & More

Episode Date: May 30, 2024

Lil Weirdo talks about his rise, Peysoh, Lefty Gunplay, bringing Sharp to the studio, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.noju...mper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today, y'all all know this, man. I know it's one of my homies, man. You know, a real, man. Man, this San Diego's finest in the building, man. You know what it is.
Starting point is 00:00:17 We got a little weirdo in the building today, man. What's going on, man? Dago business, huh? 619 all the time. Minis, I see you over there, too. A5thal. I'm A5 great. Yeah, you say A8.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Eighth. Yeah, eight five, baby. Shout out six for nine, though. Yeah, shout out six one, Nina, man. What's been going on with you? Man, just chilling. We're trying to get it, you know, stay out the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:40 They're having trouble to figure out what I'm doing this next little chapter of my life and shit. But, yeah, that's pretty much it. Yeah. Me and you, we were supposed to do the interview yesterday. Your ass is running late. You wasn't even in the city. Hey, you ain't even have to bring that up.
Starting point is 00:00:53 We do. We do. Straight up, church. Your ass is supposed to be in a day. city yesterday, my n-a-and you were still sitting, I want to say, Endago when I talked to you at the time you was supposed to be in. Yeah, my car's in the shop, so I wasn't on my boy to take me and stuff. You bull-h-h-h-h-h-and-you- could have went, you couldn't care.
Starting point is 00:01:13 You could make a move however you want to make a move, though. This is me bullshit, dog. Yeah. No, I'm glad that you made it, bro, for real. And it was dope. It was dope hanging out with you last night. Yeah, yeah. Me and you just did a little feature for the two-tone twins.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Yeah, shout out to the twins. Yeah, shout out to the twins. You know, shout out to OC. It's crazy because I ain't wrapped in years. Y'all N'all N'allie's got me on the truck. Hey, I pull out, he's already writing. He's already a bird. I was like, that's right, my boy.
Starting point is 00:01:42 I thought, hey, man, I'm just trying to knock the rust off of it, my kid, and get it right. You know what I'm saying? So. Hey, like, I told you all watching your old videos. Yeah. What did you think, honestly? Because you rap, bro. No, you got it.
Starting point is 00:01:55 It was trash or if it was bad. No, it was far from trash. Yeah. Like that music that I was cutting for that time, it fit that time for it. It's old as f*** now, but at that time, that was the kind of music that was being approached. So I was just trying to find that, I was just trying to tap into that genre. You know what I mean? The auto tunes and the, you know, harmonizing, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:17 You'd be harmonizing to raise a-r-r- I can't sing. My grandpa and my pop's was able to sing, but I can't sing. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't battle, it skipped a generation, huh? It skipped one. I'm being in the shower. I'll be trying to sing.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Hey, it's nothing wrong with that, Jack. You're up in there trying to get your levels right, man. Sometimes I'll be with the homies. We'll play oldies. I'll be right there singing. Hey, what's your, speaking of oldies? What's some of your favorite oldies that you like, just like two songs that you just got to hear every now and again?
Starting point is 00:02:47 Mary Jane girls in my house. What? I like all the Mary Jane girls. Yeah. That's one of my favorites. That's one of your favorites? Yeah, I did a show with him too, so that was dope. How the hell was that?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Talk to me about that. The Chicano Music Festival. Shout out to Mr. Little One. You know, Mr. Little One from the cities? Yeah. Yep, he throws a Chicano music festivals. As a matter of fact, we have on coming up Cinco de Mao. If this drives before Singo of the Mile, everybody pulled up to San Diego, man, we have a huge festival.
Starting point is 00:03:16 You know, Cinco de Mal, we have all the OD's, the Midnighters, the Delphonics. That's classic. Everybody. That's classic. And then all the Chicago rappers, you know, it's a Chicano music festival. And then, you know, I'm from San Diego, so I'm on the line of no for show. I'm going to be there. Yeah, that's going to be cold right there.
Starting point is 00:03:31 So Mary Jane Girls, he was listening to them since a kid. Yeah. Had to be a hell of an experience to grow up and perform with, like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. For sure. I take, like, my mom, you know, my mom, my parents and my grandparents is the reason I even know about this music. Like, I was telling you yesterday, like, I'm like fourth generation in the States. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:50 So, like. You told me you didn't speak Spanish. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not fluent in Spanish. So, like, all the, so, like, without four generation, my parents didn't grow up in Coritos and stuff like that. Yeah, they're being up, like, oldies and gangster rap and stuff like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:09 No, that's good. Like I said, man, it's got to be a hell of an experience, though, for you to grow up and even be a part of that and, like, be on a card with them. You know what I'm saying? Yep, that's how I felt even when I met, like, Mr. Littlewin, himself and Mr. Shadow and then. Yeah. Because I grew up bumping them. Even like people like Mitchie Slick and stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Like when I first met him, it was like a little kind of like Star Shock. Like, damn, he's really right here, you know? Yeah. I feel like you are one of the, you are one of the faces of play a mob, man. Tell us how that all came about. I play a mom's just a group of homies, you know. We just be kicking and stuff. We just, since we were kids, used to get faded and go go spend life
Starting point is 00:04:52 females houses together like a party click now I would really even call it a party click we're just a group of guys you know group of homies instead you know kick it every day I see you rap it well yeah you're rep it well man it's now it's more like it now it's more like a music movement yeah you know for sure oh it's a transition for that is there a few other ones that come from play a model to be rapping nah I'm the only rap you're the only one the only one rapping in the mob so do you feel like uh you feel like play a mob and like you know, just saying like y'all pushing music, it would probably grow a little bit bigger
Starting point is 00:05:26 if a few more of y'all did step into the brains. Yeah, no, for show. You know? For sure, but the homies don't rap though. The homies ain't even trying to rap. Them fools be on some other shit. Right. You know, but they support me, though.
Starting point is 00:05:37 All the homies be supporting and stuff. We all support you, man. Yeah, no. I gotta know, especially for you being a San Diego native, how's it been for you traveling and like going and doing other shows out of town? Best show and worst show. The best show and worst show.
Starting point is 00:05:51 So the word show. Yeah, I like this. Start worse. Bad news first. Yeah, the bad news first. Bad news first. I like that. I'm going to say, I don't know, there's a lot of, like, small cities that I did bad in.
Starting point is 00:06:04 When I first was coming up, I did Phoenix, Arizona, and, yeah, I did horrible in Phoenix. But that's a big-ass city, you know? Mm-hmm. It is a big-ass city. But, like, the most lit city out of Cali, it's Salt Lake City. at least for me you know Utah Utah yeah the first time going there that was my first ever out-of-state show on tour so I was on tour with the homies and yeah that one sold out I think like I think like six seven hundred people and that might sound like not a lot when you hear the number
Starting point is 00:06:42 but when you see that shit out in the crowd 700 people it's a lot of motherfuckets you when it's a whole different state, let alone a whole different city, a whole different state, that's dope, you know? Yeah, it is. It was a lot to me. $500 is still a lot. Today for somebody to be able to pack out five to 700 people in a venue like that is still a lot, bro.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Like, listen, I feel like this, bro, you ain't got to pack out $50,000 to be great this shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He got to pack out $50,000 to be grading this shit. No. Half the people that even show up to that shit's either there with somebody else and don't even really be a fan.
Starting point is 00:07:18 five, six hundred people and be some fans. Word for word. And come out word for fucking word, both. How was it a trip?
Starting point is 00:07:25 The way I see it is you can't be losing if you're making money off it, period. You can sell out a hundred. If you make some money, you're winning. A lot of people
Starting point is 00:07:33 are trying to do this for free and just, because they love doing it. You know, if you're getting paid off, if you getting paid for something you love doing, man, you won.
Starting point is 00:07:42 It don't matter. It don't matter how much or nothing because you're getting money off of it. Right. See, I've always believed I don't give a fuck if it's $1,500 and you consistently making it. That's important, bro.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Everybody, but let's be real, though. Weirdo, like, when n-I'm coming up, you kind of do got to do a couple freebies, bro. You do kind of got to go show up and hop on somebody's shit. For sure. For sure. I don't think, I think it'd be for people to try to hop in and start getting the money ASAP.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yeah, nah, ain't know. You got to pay your dues, you know? Yeah. You got to go, you got to go take that marathon. First page show for you was where? First big show, San Diego. Paid you right? For sure.
Starting point is 00:08:24 For sure, huh? He's saying the town, because see, it's a little different over there for you, bro. Like, they don't just know your music, they know your name. You know what I'm saying? They know you. You know what I'm saying? They see, I'm outside in my city, so they see me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:39 They'll catch me at the gas station in one of the grimy areas of the city. Like, because I'll be around there and stuff. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So you say you really be outside out there, like you're not one of them rappers that sit in the house all the time and talk shit from online. Yeah, I don't talk, I don't even really talk shit, but I'm not saying like, oh, I'm outside every day 24-7, no, but I'm outside. I'm not. I'm rubbing shoulders, like, it's the city, like, you know, and nothing going to keep me in the house.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Right. But that's all I mean by outside. I'll be hitting downtown, I'll be networking and in the studios running to me. You don't miss the events or nothing. come through the city. Sometimes I do, but I'll be trying to make most of the events, especially when I went out of towners come. You know, I try to rub shoulders, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:23 Was he and welcome to the city? You know, all that good stuff. You've been doing your shit, bro. Like, I feel like your music is great. I feel like back when I first start fucking with you, you was running in a little bit of troubles. You know what I'm saying? I was kind of keeping you from making more music and things like that. That's why I was crazy to hear you say last night telling you, hey, yeah, I'm back doing verses
Starting point is 00:09:46 for people. You know what I'm saying? Like, because you kind of seem like you fell off from, you fell away from that part for a little bit. Why was that? Like, why were you doing verses? You know how it go. Just life. Sometimes you'd be like, man, I ain't even rapping right now. I'm on some other stuff right now. That's all it is though, really. Feel like you needed a break? Yeah. I mean, I would even say needed a break because I was still hitting the studio every now and then. It was just, I ain't even worried about it, you know? Yeah. I got other things going on and stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah. It seems like you got other personal matters. You seem like you're trying to deal with it, something. It ain't really the music. Yeah. Sometimes, you know what I mean? People just go through their own issues and they're just worried about that. They're not worried about making music and stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Even though making music pays bills now. It does. It does. If you can move it right them streams, it's a... For sure. Yeah. The streams be a motherfucker, bro. Yeah, I didn't hate off this music for sure.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Yeah. For sure. Big old bags. Nah, I'm not gonna say big old crazy bags, but... More than what... It didn't change my life for sure. Yeah. It didn't change my life for sure.
Starting point is 00:10:55 100%. I can humbly say I'm grateful. Like, rap didn't kick off. Who knows what would have been? What you think would have happened? Honestly, be honest. What do you think you would have been if you wasn't? I'm not gonna lie, like, even, but I couldn't really like work a job.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I don't know why it just wasn't in me. Like, I didn't had jobs before. Oh, no, fool. I just couldn't work. Good job, though. My favorite job I did that I cared for a while was a shoe cleaning. You ever been to them on? They're like, hey, let me clean your kids.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Let me show you this, how this shoe cleaning. And they'll clean one. Yeah. Yeah, you know, go. Yeah, quick man. Yeah, I was a salesman. I would have sold water to a drowning man. I like that.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I had it in me, fool. I swear I was getting it. I traveled doing that too. That was like the only job I could really do because it wasn't hourly. It was like all commissioners. Commission. So if you don't work, you don't eat. But if you're working crazy, you can eat as much as you want.
Starting point is 00:11:52 If you're working crazy, you know. So you say you've always been in your own type of your own business, man. Yeah. You ain't really, can't really work a job? Yeah, I didn't have like a warehouse job for a little bit. That didn't work. Got fired. Showing up late.
Starting point is 00:12:07 You seem like to show up late because you show up late to shit. Show them late to this. So I know for a fact, it had to fall along the lines of maybe being tardy. I don't know. You know, how to get your ass fired away. You guys, you probably got fired out. No, one of them was I had a warehouse job, and then I had a door-to-door energy-efficient home upgrades.
Starting point is 00:12:30 So, like, I wasn't selling you nothing, but I was basically selling you something. Like, oh, you don't have to pay nothing now, but let us come do evaluation and see what your home needs to be upgraded. Yeah. You know what I was trying to go off. So I was knocking door-to-door.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Imagine letting an n-a-n-n-n-n-n-a-n-n-n-old in your house to come evaluate some shit. Right when you look at it like that, like, yeah. Yeah, I'll pull up door to door. They wouldn't even answer you most of the time. That's why I only had that job for like a week. And I did one, no call, no show. I was 18, though.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I didn't know the rules. I didn't know you had to call in. I was just like, oh, I'm sick. I was sick. They're like, yeah, you could just go home. You good. I'm not all right for sure. I got to ask you, three top artists you'd want to work with
Starting point is 00:13:13 right now on the West Coast Street? Three top West, like three West Coast artists that you'd like to work when you feel like they're doing their shit and you'd like to get some music done with it. For show, we's got he. We's got a free, we's got he. He hasn't been working because he'd been in jail,
Starting point is 00:13:33 but that's what we've been slapping down here for. That's the problem. Listen to me, dog. And I'm going to, I'm going to put it, that's the problem. You got to stay out the slammer. Music can't get made from in there, bro. Not the way that we need you to put it out.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yeah, it's harder. I get it, gang, but come on, church. When you in the streets, though, it's harder to say that than to really stay out of the time. I've been in, let me tell you something, I'll be in the streets and you got to move wisely. You want to try to step their game up, but they don't never want to revamp the program a little bit. Some shit you probably ain't going to be able to do that you used to be able to do,
Starting point is 00:14:08 bro. Like, you just switching the formula a little bit. Still do what he do? Yeah. You know? That's how I look at it, for real. Like, it is hard to be in the streets. I get it's easier said than done.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Starting to have some money and starting to have some motion. Your friends are about to change. People that you thought fuck what you're about to change. All that shit takes a toll, bro. So I'll say this. To me, and I ain't saying you're making any excuses. I'm just saying in a format, that's not an excuse. Like, be in the streets like, bro, we play in the game.
Starting point is 00:14:38 You know, I feel. And you got to play that. Right. Let's dive into it, though, bro. How'd you link up with Lefty Gunn playing Young Rich? Lefty Gunn playing Young Rich. So Young Rich is kind of like family, you know. I liked him.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I had already, like, met him. He was already, like, making music. I had, like, met him. I wasn't making music like that. I wasn't making music like that. I was in the streets. Yeah. So I like running to him and stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:03 But his, his, his pops was, was, was busted with my older cousin. Young Ridge? Young Rich is pops. He's in prison. He was in prison with my, with my older cousin. And they had grown to close. I was bond, you know, in prison to where, when I finally locked in with Rich, it was more on some music stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Yeah. When we got close, we already knew each other when we got close. And then when his pops found out who my cousin was, he like, he like, started treating me like family, you know, to where it was like, we just locked in now. Like, it's more like a family ties. You know how like, you start rocking with somebody new, kind of tough, but the only reason you rock with him is because your direct people is like, hey man, this is my phone. folks right here. You gotta f***.
Starting point is 00:15:49 This is my people. Get phone calls like that. You know what I mean? Yeah, like this is my people. Lock it in and then you end up rocking with him too. Like that's how it kind of was, you know? I don't do it like that no more. Yeah. Like for real. Yeah. And that's how to me, that's how I was supposed to be like if I didn't really know you. I better meet you through somebody. I gotta meet, not just through some, it gotta be my direct. No, yo people. My people and they're and they got, they can't just say this their home. I got
Starting point is 00:16:14 say, this is my people. And that's how I start like, that's how I got like a lot of love with the out-of-town homies and stuff like that. You would lock in genuinely. It wouldn't be like, oh, he's a rapper, I'm a rapper, and listen. Nah, it would be genuine love, you know? Yeah. That's how I'd be locking in.
Starting point is 00:16:29 So if I didn't know you on the up-and-coming, I'm probably not even going to rock with you if you ain't tied in. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people just be trying to come in people's circle when they see people got motion and stuff anyways. So, like, I don't even... I ain't go lie.
Starting point is 00:16:42 That's one of the realest ways to move. I respect that comment. I ain't go lie to you. He's like, bro, I can't fuck with nobody. Because I can't, bro. Like, if I didn't, to rock what you like that, somebody that I really f***ed with had to introduce you to say, hey, you need to fuck with them.
Starting point is 00:16:58 And there's a reason about it. Like, hey, he's good people. Because you can blame somebody if this shit go bad. Yeah, it fall on your ass. You know what I'm saying? So I do respect that way of living and that way of thinking, homie, because it really keeps the bullshit out of your circle and it keeps your circle small to where the people that are supposed to be around
Starting point is 00:17:16 around. You know what I'm saying? And they're not getting blocked out by all the bullshit people trying to come your money. Because I'm sure you know what, my nigga special, you having money. You're in the rap game, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:27 You just want to figure out a way to get up under a little weird. Trying to figure out a way to get something from you or steal a little bit of your motions. Something, my n'am. Learn some sad shit about you and try to use it against you later on. Try to sabotage.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Yeah, exactly. Some people already be in your mix and fuck it up and be mad. can't come back around. Like, you can't come. As soon as you f*** up with me, especially nowadays, I'm too, I'm getting too old for this shit.
Starting point is 00:17:54 You know me? It's too much going on. You f*** up. I'm not rocking with you. Stay away. I'm not tripping. I mean, I'm not tripping on nobody no more to where it's like, nah, but just stay away from me, though.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Like, you're not coming around over here. Because everybody who comes around me, like, I do nothing but try to show the love, you know? You know what my ass are, like, be trying to eat off people's plates and stuff. Like, I don't even care. I'll show people love, bring them straight to the plug if I got it, you know what I mean? I'm genuine love, you know?
Starting point is 00:18:22 So it's like, if you used to be around and you got cut off, it's because you weren't showing the love back. You know what I mean? Yeah, a lot of people tell me. It'd be one-sided sometimes. A lot of people tell me weirdo, like, that I'm wrong for that. Like, you shouldn't help people. Like, don't help him. You don't have to help him.
Starting point is 00:18:38 I'm like, I've been in a position in church where I wish somebody would have helped me. You know what I'm saying? And I know I'm a genuine. I'm down on my ass, bro. I'm not really having my way right now. I'm having a bad catch hand. You know what I'm saying? So just to have a mrs.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Just reach out and fuck with me. Like, I always wanted to, I don't want nobody to feel the way I felt. You really felt that shit before. On everything. Did you know how that shit really feel? You don't want to see nobody even talk to- You could go both ways. You could either be a grimy, muck, stingy person out there.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Like, I don't get f*** about what nobody got going on. Or it could be a person who got a good heart after that. Like, man, I just want to see everybody win. That's all I want to do, bro. I'm like there, too. I just want to see everybody win, bro. And, you know, like I said, I want to see even my worst enemy win.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Win. Get some money, no. Get some money. No, get some bread, bro, because you know what? When we go to war, I need you to have some bread to go to war,
Starting point is 00:19:29 so get it up. I don't want to just beat you, the technicality. Make it interesting. Make it interesting. So, yeah, have some money. I want you to. That way, there ain't no excuses.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Don't call it time out. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. You feel what I'm saying? It was low. We wasn't, we wasn't having it like that on our side. War is war and you gotta have money to go to war. And I think a lot of people fail to realize that shit, honey. People ain't making no moves for you.
Starting point is 00:19:52 How about you, Church, have you had to cut off a few people in your life that you were close to? Because I feel like that's what you was kind of leaning to before we veered off. You feel like you had to cut a few people off that you were really close with that like, now you like, damn. I don't give a fuck no more, but yeah, man, I didn't fuck close friends. I didn't cut off blood immediate family, like, you know. Talk that shit. Talk that shit, bro. No, I don't even care no more.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I don't even care no more, honestly. Yeah. Fuck a friend at that point, right? The shit, the shit just, the shit just happened so much to where it don't even affect me no more. You know what I'm almost, pocket your lighter. Yeah, nigger. Oh, you're a good boy.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I'm the king of pocket and lighters. Yeah. I'll leave a studio session with like seven lighters in my pocket. And then when you get home, you notice you can't find one later on. Hey, all in the car. I'm like 20 in the car, though. Yeah. But you say you didn't have to cut off blood.
Starting point is 00:20:43 before so you high go off to you that hurts more than having to cut a nigga off in the street yeah you know you feel like that's changed your whole perspective like your whole outlook to how you move today 100% yeah because those lessons like from the having to cut the family off to kind of be like all right this shit got to change just having to like step up you know like with like all the relatives and stuff like that when you cut them off especially male males in the family who was supposed to be running the family. Yeah, it changed the dynamic of things. You know, you got to step up at a young age.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Yeah. For sure. I like learning this about your, bro, to know that, and I'm sure your fans do too, and the viewers like, damn, you really grew up around older niggas. You wasn't really playing with the kids. It sounded like it sounded like you had to really jump off the porch and go get to something.
Starting point is 00:21:36 You know what I mean? Like, you were all your homies, like, was a lot of your homies coming up, they was all older than you? even in the streets other than like you fucking with your relatives? No, it's not really that. I had like all my homies with my age, you know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:50 I'm like, well, that was the squad right there. I was a little wrecking crew. Yeah. But it was more so like I had my pops, but he wasn't around. You know, he's a drug addict. So he wasn't around. Like I didn't rock with my older relatives. I had an older brother and he had went to the Juvenile Hall lot.
Starting point is 00:22:11 He went to prison. You had an older brother? You have an older brother? Had an older brother. So he went to juvenile hall a lot and then he went to prison for a long time. And then he got out and after a couple years was murdered. So, you know, that's going to always change the dynamic of things like. So I had to step up when there's no older, older like male figures in the family, you know.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Because I got like little nieces and nephews and stuff like that and they don't have their father either. either. So it just stuff like that fucks with you, bro. Like I can feel it like that energy. Yeah, nah. It does, but I'll be trying not to show it though. You know, so. I don't even really want to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Well, sometimes weird old, hey, church, it's all right to let that shit out, my nigger and say it. Sometimes you got to say it to away with it, bro. Sometimes you got to speak it into a hole in the ground and cover that shit up and walk away from it. It's okay, bro. For real, my nigga, like, I used to think that shit too, right? Until I start really talking about certain shit. And I'd be like, all right, bro, because when that shit,
Starting point is 00:23:10 builds up my nigga that make a nigga turn into a real demon you'm saying now nigger feel a certain type of way like nobody understand like they got to hold all that shit in bro it just it make you a different type of monster no we on demon times they make it but they make it seem like we suck as though bro for saying what we a man's not supposed to have any feelings a man's not supposed to say he's got any problems like bro we're all human my nigga that's some bullshit dog that's some shit the psychos out and all it do is make us go crazy nigger we need to talk about shit too yeah nigga need to chop it up about
Starting point is 00:23:42 shit too church you know what I'm saying instead of sitting there just bottling it in and they're telling us we're supposed to take it because we mean that's bullshit gang yeah that's the bullshit that's turning a lot of niggas crazy whooping shit out shooting shit up doing all types of shit nigga gotta have a release a pressure build they digger pressure bus pipes
Starting point is 00:23:59 nigga gotta release that shit somewhere homie somebody gotta get it you feel me straight up niggas just walk in building one day and just start tearing shit up, nigga, why? Because, nigga, he's having a bad way at all. White's probably telling him he a piece of shit. He ain't a man.
Starting point is 00:24:14 He's a bitch. All the extra shit. Especially, like, some people will never understand when a male who feels like he's an alpha male gets in a dark place. You know what I'm saying? It gets scary. It gets scary not for him, but for everybody around him
Starting point is 00:24:31 because that, boy, it snap on you. You know what I'm saying? Quick. Quick. Nigga, with the quickness, with no problems. No matter where he's, I didn't see a killer, homie, depressed about his bitch leaving him. Hey, you better watch out for boys.
Starting point is 00:24:44 For real. He's ready to flip the hood upside. He's ready to flip the whole neighborhood, nigga, and every day. Because you know why? The motherfucker won, because you know what it is, bro, a motherfucker wants you to feel how they feel. Hurt people, honey. You dig what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:59 That's a real saying, dog. That shit really happened. Hurt people, hurt people, hurt. Yeah. Mersryry's all that, the same thing. It's all the same shit. Yeah, for real. You never told me how you linked up with a Lefty though, either.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Oh, Lefty. You told me how you linked up with young rich. So that was a family thing. Yeah, no, Lefty, lefty, uh, shout to the homie, man, he's from LA, Bowling Park area, so we didn't like grew up in the same city or nothing because, you know, he's from the city by the border, but we locked on some rap stuff, but he was genuine from the general. I go a lot, look, the crazy thing is, Lefty hit me up before he blew up.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Like, he already hit me up a couple times. But you know, especially around that time, I was, you know what I mean, I was out the way, man. I was out the way. So I wasn't even replying. But then when the homie took off, I gave him a follow and sent my love like, hey, bro, I see you shining. That's where I keep it going. And he was like, my boy, I fuck with you. Like, come link up, let's work.
Starting point is 00:25:51 So even like the first couple times leaking up, we didn't even work, bro. We were just kicking it. Really. You know what I'm getting to know the homie and stuff. Like, you know what I'm saying? It was good. It was genuine little. Even now, like, we probably hit the studio one time.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Other that, we'd just be kicking it. We'd be hitting shows together instead. We'd be trying to run plays with him. It's a good look. Yeah, he'll call me if you got to play, like I'll call him like a club, like a club trying to book me or something and they need the extra artist, I'll call Lefty. Like, what's that, you want to go run this play with me?
Starting point is 00:26:19 You know, it's all love, fool. It's my boy right there. So yeah, we met when he started getting cracking. I showed love, he showed back and ever since then's been genuine. That's my boy. It's been your partner ever since. He's been up here a couple times. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah, for sure. We seen him in. That's my boy right there. Hey, I ain't going to lie, bro. Like, I fuck with, bro. He remind me of one of the essays, like, I grew up with it. Like, we all knew niggas like that. You know what's got that hard?
Starting point is 00:26:49 Turned up all the time. Hey, but you know what's crazy? A lot of fools, especially I know fools who are turned up like that. And if they took off, like how he took off, they'll be cocky. Boy, he shows love to people. He don't got to show left to because he was listening. to their music before he took off, you know? And everything, the homie shows love, fool.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Like to anybody he was already listening to or was fucking with, before he took off, he'd be showing love for sure. That's why I rock with him, he's genuine, you know? He's genuine. He's just turned up, though, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you all know how to kick you with homies like that, you know what's, you that's turned up. That's like you.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Like, you just kind of know what the, there's some homies you could take somewhere and there's some homies you can. Like, niggas, you know. No, no, no. And then you take them, no, because you take them, it's trip time, nigger. They're trippers. So they're tripping on what, like, and when you get mad at me, they're like, nigga, they're like, nigga, they're like, you knew you shouldn't have brought me to this shit. You knew all those fans.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I'm going lefty anywhere, though. He's not all over here, like, stature that's just because she's a fucking crash out. And that's right, you got to be fucked up. You got to be fucking out right now. No, no. You got nice over here right now, like, yeah, and, but you're over here real nice and subtle right now, like, yeah, you know and stuff. And, you know, this thing is a real tripper, bro.
Starting point is 00:28:03 A real dreamer. I'll be chilling, man. You're lying. But I love it, though. You do be chilling in all actuality. Yeah, nah, I'd be chilling, man, you know? I'll be trying to just kick it. What, until it's time not to chill?
Starting point is 00:28:17 Yeah, till it's time not to chill, you know what I mean? But other than that, I'm just right there with my feet up, smoking, chilling, enjoying the vibe. Like, yesterday, you did see me? I was just viving. Yeah. We just turked up. Hey, all seduct up. Hey, all sedgo shit, we was turked up.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Hey, straight to fuck up, nigga. Hey, you know how this shit go. It was interesting because before this interview started, you had a certain somebody by the name of Peso on the phone. That was called. How you know him? Paiso? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Man, that's my little brother, bro. And everything, that's, like, you could ask him before he took off, before he dropped his first song, he was at my house every weekend. Like, before he was rapping. That's my little brother, bro. and everything. I was talking him the whole time.
Starting point is 00:29:04 He's in jail. Your chance he gets to call me. He got on the phone with me. And the dude, he seemed like he really, from some of the stuff that he was engaging on with me on the phone, seemed like he really, yeah, he's really about that shit. I definitely want to, I told him. I want to fuck with him, but he said he ain't coming up here.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I'm going to go ahead. Yeah, he said that. Yeah, he said he ain't coming up here. Oh, yeah. He said he can't. He feel a certain type of way about certain shit. So, you know, and I'll leave him. Be like that.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Like, yeah, he just feels certain. And what he broke down, me on the outside looking in, I kind of understood. I was like, yeah, it's probably best. You keep your other psychotic crazy ass right there at Tehesey. No, I fuck with him. He's a good nigga. Paiso, I fuck with him, bro.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Shout out to Paiso. And if I can ever get him up here, come sit down with me and chop it up with me, bro. You know, I'm going to roll out the carpet for him, need a row. You know what I'm saying? 100%. It's like I do it for you, nigga. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Straight to fuck up. So let's talk about. about it because I want to know like you know what I'm saying are there's some politics surrounding who you could work with for example like artists from the bay talk about it nah I work with anybody yeah sure you work with anybody I don't know it was very vague I feel like there's more than that you I work with anybody you say you're not really closed minded like that or say you not really nah if they're hard I'm fucking with them yeah I'm not
Starting point is 00:30:31 I'm biased, you know, I'll show that to everybody who's hard if you just, if I'm not showing you love, I'm not saying you're not hard, I'm just not rocking with the music, you know? Do. So you say it's not based off politics for you, like from where they come from or different sections. It's really just about, is the music good? That's bullshit, gang. And I'm not going to sit here and let you like just skate through that, nigga, listen,
Starting point is 00:30:53 you're from Daigo, homie, so I'm going to, me and you, we're going to really kick it the right way. I really want to know the real, bro. You ain't that sweet. It ain't that sweet for you to even say that because you, I know you, nigga. Hell no. Hell no, nigga.
Starting point is 00:31:09 It ain't about no good music. That nigga better never did nothing to your side, nigga. You know it, bro, it ain't just anybody. That's saying a lot. That's saying it, right? That's saying a lie. It ain't just anybody. Yeah, not just anybody.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Right. For the most part, anybody, though. They are. Yeah. They are, for sure. Is there any Bay Area? artists you'd like to work with right now? Yeah, I shot at them out earlier, Weez Gotti.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Wee Gotti in the Wilson. Yeah. I like the underground, I fuck everybody cracking, but like, like, like, Wee's Gotti, I'd be off that, uh, that, like, cold game. I don't know if you heard of cold game. You need to get one with Dollar Dame and Filthy and them FOD. Okay, yep, yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:31:49 You need to get with them boys. The boys got, eh, like it in. They, eh, I ain't gonna lie to you. They, oh, little squad go crazy. I'll put you off. I grew up, I was off Filthy back. When the funk really go, D. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:32:01 Who really ready to ride? I think that's what you definitely, if you were going to link up with anybody, that would be dope. So with my nigger though, shit, you already know what it is. Hey, I think that would be great for you, humbly, honestly. Bay Area, F-O-D, I can definitely hear... I rock with some Bay Area artists. I got a song with Du Bois.
Starting point is 00:32:24 That's my guy for the boy. I've locked in with the upstate homies. The upstate Bay Recone. They're southerners from the West. They're from, like, the Bay Area. Yeah, I rock with like the Bay Recone instead. Right, that's different. They're some Southerners.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they got the Bay Area Stilo, you know? Yeah. They're different from the homies down here, but they homies, though. And then, like, I rock my boy Chito. I was just with Chito all weekend. He's from Sack, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:53 He's not from the Bay. He's from Sack. Yeah. Yeah, but I rock with, bro. No, Chito Ranas, right? Yeah, Chito Ranas. Chito Ranas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:01 No, I just seen him and Comperator just did a piece, I believe. Together you went up there to go fuck with him up north and sit down there and chopped it up. Oh, yeah. Oh, I seen me in the studio. You see it in the studio. Yeah, I've seen that. That was an interesting conversation. Sure.
Starting point is 00:33:17 You know, I try to stay out of, like, Mexican politics on me because I know it be for real. Like, niggas really be tripping in your sections. You know what I'm saying? Like, just like we be, niggas be having problems in theirs, it'd be having the same shit going on. up over there with y'all, you know what I mean? So. What's going on with you, Menace? Yeah, shit, I'm just high as fuck.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Just high as hell. My boy, no little menace. Yeah, he's in San Diego area too, North County. This show, this is one of your artists, right? Yeah, he's one of the artists who I'm pushing for show. How'd you get caught up with having, like, artists and shit now, man? What made you on step in that way? I mean, I would even really, I would even really call it artists, bro,
Starting point is 00:33:54 because I don't got him under paperwork, nothing. It's just who I'm pushing. You know me, uh, when I was up and coming, and I was young, You know, when I wanted the love from the older artists, I didn't get it, you know, until I earned it. You know, until I, I'm not even going to say earned it because I've been earned it, but until they had no choice but to give me my love, you know? So, so like every time there's an up-and-coming artist, I'd be trying to show the love, you know? Like, I always done it, you know?
Starting point is 00:34:21 Like, when my rule was coming up, I showed them love and stuff. And then now I just felt like it was a time for the city to get some new faces. So, you know, I started co-shining bro and stuff when I heard his music. My camera, one of my camera men, shout out, Louis Canui. We was on our way to Vegas. Yeah, EDC. I was going to EDC.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Yeah, y'all is going to EDC. Hey, man, we was going to EDC. Hey, man, man, was on a bender. Hey, when I tell you. I know you was on a bender, no sleep. Out there, playing in them people's mountains and desert. Shout out my boy, Jay Money, man, Sam Bernadino. Hey, that's all I go.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Me and my boyfriend on like a seven-day bender right now. We've been turtip. But now we went to, so me and my cameraman on our way to Vegas, right? And then we're chilling. He playing music and stuff. I were like, we was already shrooming. I don't fucker shrooms like that, but I was on my way to EDC, so I was trying to get in the vibe when I get there, you know?
Starting point is 00:35:19 Getting on your white boy back. Yeah, getting in your white boy back. And then, I don't know where he started playing these fools. I thought it was, you know what I thought he was, I thought it was, I thought it was some other foods that I'd already heard before. I don't know why. I think it was because his homies sounded like one of them. And then he started rapping.
Starting point is 00:35:36 I'm like, damn, who's this? And he's like, these the homies, they're from San Marcos. And San Marcos is in San Diego. San Marco, homies. I know I'm in North County. Shout to all the San Marcos home. Yeah. So they're like, okay, they're from San Marcos.
Starting point is 00:35:49 It's from a pretty big neighbor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Pretty big. Yeah. For sure. So then I tapped in with them and stuff. And we just been like, we locked in ever since. My young homie, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:59 You know, rocking their roll and everything says. You feel like, Minis, you feel like he's definitely helped, do you feel like he's helped you evolve and elevate since you start fucking with him in that way? No, for sure. Like, we're growing up, I was listening this for, really. We'd be in the hood bumping this for him.
Starting point is 00:36:21 And it was just like, certain people, like, we look at it kind of like as a role model. Just to be sent next to this floor, I was bumping this full like not too long ago in the hood. And now I'm just sitting here kicking up this boy every single day. It's like kind of like a dream come true type of shit. Lou, when did you start rapping? I always been around the music, but like taking a series, I was probably like 19, 20.
Starting point is 00:36:44 How do you know? 25. Damn, nigga, you'd swear you sound like it's been 15 years. He's like, nigga, I was bumping him since I was a kid. Like, so I don't know. Yeah, he's 20. He's 20. But, bro, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:58 Yeah. But y'all both still the same age bracket, so it's kind of crazy. Nah, we're my young... You're all the way of 50. What the fuck. Hey, all my young are you, all my young are these be on me right, they'd be like, you're halfway to 50, fool. I'm like, damn. Halfway to 50 is crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:19 All the little, I got a little baby, baby, baby bar spot. They'd be, they'd be called me bawdy. I'm just like, bro. How you get a buck? You're begging me for old. You're stressing, nigga. Yeah, man. Probably that's stress.
Starting point is 00:37:31 No, you know what it came, you know what that shit probably came from? Like you said, having to really step up and play certain roles that a little earlier than you probably should have. Or had to at all. You know what I'm saying? Like you said, you had an older brother. There were supposed to be older people in your family that didn't really step up to the plate or some aren't here anymore, rest of the piece, that can't step up to the plate. You know, so you've had to really take a different time. And I see it probably, it takes the same toll with you and your homies, like some of the other people.
Starting point is 00:37:57 you and your homies, like some of the younger homies. Yeah, for sure, yeah, that's probably another reason. Because I, uh, long-lived new for, you know, my big brother, he's always showing me like big brother love, you know? Right. So I'll be, I don't know, I always show love to the young homies. The young homies know, like, he knows, too, like, he knows, too, like, he know all my little cousins and all my little
Starting point is 00:38:16 hump, like his, my little cousin ended up gravitating towards me growing up, and then all his little hummies became like my little hummies. I mean, all his hummies, his age, became the little hummies. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. To what they all know, like, call me for anything, bro. It don't matter what it is. Like, you need somebody to sleep, you hungry.
Starting point is 00:38:33 You need, you're going through some shit. You need me come pick you up. You're trying to smoke. Like, it don't matter, fool. Like, I'm there for you. Just call me, you know? They know I'm pulling up going in 60 seconds. Like, what?
Starting point is 00:38:43 Yeah. Really there for niggas. On everything, fool. Yeah. Well, they had a pad full there. They have my pad every day, you know, and I'm cool with that because I'd rather than be with me because I know they're straight.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Yeah. Then out there fucking up, having no way. Fucking up, you know what I'm saying? Come on, fool. Muffling. I ain't tried to talk about, motherfay in my fridge all day and shit. Yeah. They're dogs.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Hey, they dog in your fridge out. Man, I had to take snacks into my room. You motherfuckin' fuckin' my fridge, y'all. But these my little homies, though, you know, I love these little fools. I like you're my little brother. That's nothing but love. I got another question for you, man. Were people tripping when they saw the footage of you listening to the little Woody?
Starting point is 00:39:24 You know, little would be the northern artists, you know? Nobody's sitting there to me. Yeah. I don't even know how that came on. Yeah, I mean, it's just saying. What you're gonna fuck through that, shit. For real. No, yeah, no, nobody's sitting there.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Sure, I went to, I went to Northern Cali right there too and functioned with the upstate homies right there. Nobody's sitting there. Yeah. They know it's love, fool. Yeah. So you don't be having no issues really with none of that? No.
Starting point is 00:39:50 That's love right there, man. That's life. Yeah. For you and your music. where are you trying to take it? Like, what's the message you're sending and where's the overall goal for you? Because it seemed like you're more into your family
Starting point is 00:40:05 and even into your homies and trying to get them on. Yeah, no, that's really what I'm doing right now. Like, I haven't made my own song and I don't know how long. I've been just getting on music with them. I mean, look it, like, I'm gonna prosper. I'm gonna get mine, so I'm not tripping. You know what I'm saying? But I'm just more worried about building this little brand I got and putting the homie zones.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Because look at the way I see it. If they win, I'm winning. You know, he becomes a millionaire and he's going tour and all this stuff. He's taking me with him. He's taking me with him. So it's like, you really going to take him with him? You're really going to take the homie with you? So they can say that until a nigga get a bag.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Shit changes when money comes into play. I love to see, niggas, still stand on business. You want to know why? Because look, I already got money. Yeah. You know what I'm not going to sweat it. But I know he's going to look out, you know what I'm saying? A person.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Little homie. Good. There's no discrepancies. Yeah, it's deeper than rap. Like, we, deeper than rap, you know. I ain't known, I ain't known, though. You know what I'm saying? We're a different age back and he from a different part of town.
Starting point is 00:41:14 But I grew up on with a little homie, you know what I'm saying? Not just him, all of them, you know what I'm saying? I love him more. You ain't working on nothing for yourself? Uh, nah. Keep helping everybody else. Should you just help some people last night? Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I don't know. I got some, I'm going to probably work on some stuff. Right now, right now I'm just working on everything around because I dropped the tape not too long ago. So, like, we got a tour coming up. A lot of familiar tour, too. We got that. We're going through Hellie Cities.
Starting point is 00:41:41 So I'm not working on that. Because I got my hand on that, you know? I'm not just an artist. Oh, you got just. So, like, yeah, I'm trying to help behind the sea. Yeah, you got some money involved. No, not too much. I'm just trying to help behind the scenes figure out the game so that way I can't get
Starting point is 00:41:55 some money involved, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Show them what you're doing to do. So that way when they start throwing them, hey, y'all can start talking about throwing your bag as well. Exactly. Put my own money up. And you're putting your own money up in the mix.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Have you learned a lot going to these type of events? You think you can throw your own? Like to a hell yeah. Like your own, like just solely on you? Oh, just me on the line? Like, no. No, I'm saying like where it's like me and my team? It's just you and your team, that's it.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah, we already have. No, I'm talking about like to the magnitude, tour, nigger, there might be a couple of out-of-country joints. We haven't done that. You know what I'm saying? No, I think we can, though. I think we can. It's so simple, it's a little difficult, but it's,
Starting point is 00:42:37 but the concept is kind of, kind of simple, you know? You got to call venues, lock them in, you got to put my money behind marketing. I was about saying, it really takes money at the end of the day, and maybe just a couple clubs. You got the money, you straight. You got the money, you straight. Somebody.
Starting point is 00:42:50 than you Gucci. Somebody going to point you in the right direction. I do believe in that. Y'all niggas might fuck around Atlanta, Switzerland or something. What? He never, bro, it's all about, like you said, is money. How far can you travel to get your music out there? Man, I'm trying to go overseas.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Some shit is at a click of a button. It is easy today, right, to get the music up and rolling. But when you look at it, some of this shit, you still have to go do some hand-to-hand combat. Because some people are going to feel your energy, not just the music on. online, they're gonna be like, damn, I became a fan of him going to a show with some people. Versus, oh, I just heard a song online. Somebody put me on. I just heard it just pop up on my timeline.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Like, shit hits a little different when the motherfucker meets you through your music at a show versus just listening to it online or on a streaming platform. I feel, you know, you engaged with your fans? For sure. I try to take all, like, there's probably never time. Well, I have before, if I'm in a rush, like if I'm just getting to a venue or something. Yeah. Or I'm not trying to hurry up and get somewhere. And they catch me in public.
Starting point is 00:43:53 But, no, I try to, because I'm, well, I see it, man, I'm nobody special. You know, if somebody wants a picture of me, I'm honored. You know, I feel more honored than more like a, than like cocky. You know what I feel the same way. I feel so honored. But sometimes you, it don't get overwhelmed. For sure. It gets overwhelming sometimes.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Some people know, not even feel yourself because he'll stay to take one picture, right? And then Mikey's been there with me. You'll take one picture with somebody. Then you might take another one and then three, then before you know it, it's starting to form a small line. Mubbock can just hold you there and you got places you got to be. It does get a little because you want to try to fuck with as many people in Japan, but time is every motherfucking thing. Like sometimes I feel like they take the artist being an asshole if you can't stop. You don't know if this thing just took 40 pictures right before this.
Starting point is 00:44:39 You was just the one that didn't get one. But it's fucked up that it would probably turn them off as a fan. Yeah. You never had no hate mail. Mubbucka said, man, fuck you a little weirdo. You know, man, I always listen to your shit and you don't never say nothing. Oh, no, not, not like a fan. Nah, yeah, fans are.
Starting point is 00:44:55 You know what I'm saying? Like, they listen to your shit and they be like, man. Like, like, for a minute when I wasn't dropping music, I just kept posting snippets. A fan got mad at that. They were like, man, you know, you're not even dropping your music. I'm not following you. I felt bad. I messaged you.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Because sometimes I'll message you back. My bad, bro, you know. I'm going to do some shit right now. Like, let me chill out real quick. I'm about to drop. My boy. Like, damn, everything we robots, fool. Yeah, they do.
Starting point is 00:45:23 They do. They do. Mm-hmm. You feel like, how is it for you trying to separate, you know, the rap? Because family-orientated, obviously. Mm-hmm. How is it for you separating your family and your, you know, I'm saying? Your personal situations from the rap.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Find any roadblocks? Do you need that? Mm. Yeah. Not really. No. Nah. I don't really mix the two.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Families over there, the studio's over there. Yeah. I don't really miss it. What if some of the things that you go through with your family stops you from going to the studio and then making progress? I ain't going to lie, nothing, really. Nothing. There's never a time when they're like, man,
Starting point is 00:46:08 you shouldn't go to the studio or nothing like that. Unless, like, I'm doing a show in the area they know it's like, ugh. They'll be telling them like, nah, you probably should do that. Because a lot of people love you church. I'm gonna do it anyway, y'all. But there's people that don't like you neither. 100%.
Starting point is 00:46:23 You know what I'm saying? We gotta remember that. You got a lot of love. A lot of people love you, but you got some boy. You got a niggas that be boy. I'd have been on line with you. We on fucking IG. This nigga gets, I'm like, what's he doing?
Starting point is 00:46:38 Some niggas trying to trip on him. He's talking shit to the nigger. I get on there like, what the fuck is this? Like, niggas be really hating on him. And the niggas really didn't have no real true real. reason of why he didn't like you. That's probably why you were laughing at him. Because like, what's your real problem, gang?
Starting point is 00:46:53 Yeah, that should be funny. He was just laughing. Like, what's your real, bro, couldn't bring a solid problem of a reason of why he had a problem with this man. I think he just, really, bro, they be fans, they like you. They just want to figure out a way to get around you. It would be people from out of state, you know? That's why I'm laughing.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Like, bro, you're like 10 hours away, my boy trying to talk crazy online. He just want to get to know you, what the hell. He just want to be your way. Nine times out of ten, I'm gonna probably be in your city doing a show before you cut in the mind. So just, you know what, just chill out? Just chill out. Just chill out.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Like, I'll sign some shit, though you know what you're telling shows nowadays, like, bro, I'm not arguing. Because back then I used to argue with them. Like, what? When I see you, I'm on that. But now I just like, bro, when you see me, just holl at me. Like, you know what? You don't feel, that's what I keep trying to say. You don't feel like they just really be wanting to be your friend?
Starting point is 00:47:42 A lot of them do. Just be really wanting to be your own. Because when I start, like, joking around with them, acting like we're like we friends. Like, bro, you ain't the homie. Like, what the fuck? Nick, he'd be like, man, you cool as fuck, bro. Be like, you cool as fuck, weirdo.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Like, I ain't even think you was this cool, man. My bad, bro. I apologize for everything I said. But some of them just be hating. Like, there's foods from out of town who just will message me every morning. They wake up, brush their teeth, probably shower, and then message me. Oh, no. You're giving me niggas too much credit.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Niggies ain't even brushing their grill, bro. Washing their ass. Nigger be up at 5 o'clock, bro. 5.30. A lot of some shit you posted last night, bro. He's mad that he missed it. He wanted to be one of the first comments, bro. The nigger be up at 5.30 to morning.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Ain't even brushed his grill, bro. Talking shit on the shit. Hey, I was in jail. I'll have people like tell me like, oh, yeah. People on my G are like, yeah, this guy's messaging. You're talking crazy? I'm like, damn, me, man. Look the fuck.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Niggas pray on your downfall, bro. But you know what? But it seemed like you're doing your shit and you're staying on your game, honey. Real shit. What's, I'd like to ask you this one. What was the issue with, I think it's a memo the mafioso? Oh, no, there ain't no issue. We had a little, a little missing.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Or it's like you like to call him Spencer. No, no, no, we're not doing that. Right. Now, he's cool now. Just stay. We're straight, though. I'm just making, hey. He could.
Starting point is 00:49:09 What was the whole? Hey, you're on your podcast and shit. You on your podcast and shit. shit, man. Hey, but I'm making you feel comfortable as we're doing it. I'm dropping little gems here and that for it. Me and him straight now, though. Me and him, me and him Gucci. What was the fucking problem? What was the riff here?
Starting point is 00:49:28 So he said he wasn't, but like, you know, because when I first met bro, I was, bring the mic up to you. Yeah, when I first met bro, he, I was already making music, you know. He barely started making music. He was showing me love. And then, I don't know. They said he, when he took off. For some reason, he, like, started dissing me. He wasn't just this.
Starting point is 00:49:49 So that's what they say, because he said that wasn't true. But supposedly he made a song and he was dissing a lot of people in the song. Like, he was tripping, you know? So it wasn't just solely directed at you? No, but he mentioned me in it, though. He mentioned you. Might as well be, you know. At that point, that's how you taking it.
Starting point is 00:50:04 You mentioned me is there. And, like, I just didn't like because he knows what said with me. Like, and I'm not saying it, like, cocky, like, oh, yeah, he knows how I get down. Like, you know what's handing? Like, you know what I mean? You're tripping, boy, we're going to trip, boy. But if you're cool, we cool, you know? And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:22 He just made the song. I made the song back. And then for many, we just never ran into each other. So it was a bunch of internet stuff. Yeah. But, you know, the people are going to hype it up. They're going to hype it up. Yeah, yeah, it makes it more than what the fuck it is.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Yeah, for sure. But, yeah, now, I ran into him. Oh. That's how, because I was already over it. You did. I was already over it. So at this point, it was already. It was dead.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Shit's been dead. It was kind of was dead. It wasn't dead, but it was just quiet, you know. Nobody was, there was no big thing. He had been there. I was throwing a bar clock in the graveyard. Bound. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Yeah, but I ran into that. He had a birthday dinner at some restaurant right there by the airport. And he was with his homies and stuff. So, you know, I put it with the homies. And then I wasn't pulling up tripping. You know, I told the homies, like, I'm just holl at him. If he's tripping, you know, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Like, it is what it is. We're going to go from there. But I'm just holl at him, let him know I'm not tripping no more unless you're tripping. No, you're checking temperature, nigger. Say it like you want to say it. I walked up on the nigger because I knew it was, let me see if everything this nigger was saying was true. Like, you feel, and how do you do that? You walk up and checking niggas energy.
Starting point is 00:51:38 You're checking temperatures. You know what I'm saying? Let me see it. You just wanted to see for yourself. Be honest. You didn't want nobody. Yeah, nah, I was just, because at the time it was dead, so I was just kind of like... You still had to see.
Starting point is 00:51:49 What's handing? Like, what we doing? But I was over it though to where I, when I approached him, it wasn't, was happening, it was like, hey, bro, I'm not even tripping, but if you're tripping, we could go there. You know what I'm saying? That's why I pulled up right now, because I'm ready to, like, dead this shit, like, whatever it is. And he was like, you know, me shook hands. And that was it, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:08 They went on about their way. And now we cool, you know, we'd be talking on the phone and stuff. We straight. It wasn't real beef, you know, like, he's not my enemy guy on the street. street like you know he's not my enemy in the street bro like like I got enemies in the street that it can be it would never go like that it would never be shake hand shake and walk on you know what I mean it's just forever he's up forever you're up you know I'm saying so me he was his rap stuff bro so that's why we were able to shake hands
Starting point is 00:52:33 and just be cool you know that's why I took it upon myself like oh somebody told me he was right there I like for sure I'm gonna just go over there just figure it out right now right yeah that's all it was I like that what I like that what wouldn't really know too much and nothing. You feel like the internet kind of. I wasn't no pulling up on extra. Nah, we're saying, bro. Let me, me holl at you.
Starting point is 00:52:51 That's all right. Yeah, he knows he's cool. You know what, we're straight. You feel like the internet inflated that a little bit? 100%. 100. I did too, though. I did too, though.
Starting point is 00:53:01 But you got to understand, like I said sometimes people going through, sometimes we'll just tripping out here on anything that they feel like he's tripping on them. So at the time when I would have had other stuff going on, he was the only rapper I was beefing with. As far as like, people ask about me, I'm on live or something. You know, I was in a messed up mindset at that time. The niggas bringing this name up to you.
Starting point is 00:53:22 And bringing it out, like, we know what you can fuck about him? I can see how that can fuck with you. You know? That can fuck with anybody. Yeah. Especially if a nigga having a bad day. So a lot of it was like me talking crazy. So he's cool enough to let that go.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Because he didn't, besides the song, supposedly, he never really said anything about me, bro. So it's like, he cool enough to be like, you know what my boy understand. I know you was going through some shit. No, but he understands why you said what you said too, though, right? Exactly. And why you may have felt the way you did it because you were mentioned. Yeah, exactly. Even if you didn't mention me no more, you said it in a song and you put it out to the world.
Starting point is 00:53:55 But he said that wasn't true, though. So it's like, it's cool, though. We're straight, you know. So it was just music. Yeah, he'll, I didn't do shows with him and everything after that. No, for him, he's saying that it was just a music. No, he was saying he didn't diss me at all. He was saying he didn't diss me.
Starting point is 00:54:07 He was like, bro, I don't know why they're saying that. Did you listen to it? Yeah. What'd you think? Hey, at the time, I was younger, too, boy. So anything... This is a good question? I think that's a great question.
Starting point is 00:54:18 That is, it. I did. I would say at the time, I was younger, I felt like he did. I was like, what? So he did. But now I'm older, I'm like, if he's saying he didn't, I could see him just rapping that bore, you know what I'm saying? If that makes sense, my boy.
Starting point is 00:54:33 No, you felt the way, and that's why you walked up on him when you saw him. Like, I just want to make sure. No, on everything. Look it. I'll tell you, I heard the song again later. I was like, but I don't think he even really dissed me. I'm gonna be honest, my boy. This is after you and him.
Starting point is 00:54:47 At a young age, I'm ready to trip. Like, what? I even think you dissing me and you presented it to the world. You got me fucked there, you know? If that makes sense in a way. It makes sense. It makes sense. But what also makes sense is this, right?
Starting point is 00:55:03 Is that when you really look at it, you felt a certain way for a reason. It wasn't just because you didn't, nigger mentioned your name, bro. And you and him ain't never shook hands at this point. Y'all never spoke. The man doesn't know you. Nah, I was pulling a trip in for sure. You pulled up tripping.
Starting point is 00:55:17 No, I'll pull that. As long as you get that point. Just say that. Yeah, no, I pulled a trip. You got to take the long way around. We could run right through this motherfucking now. Right now, bro. Let's get some shirm, nigger.
Starting point is 00:55:27 We're running right through this motherfucker mountain right now. Yeah, no, I pulled up tripping. You pulled up tripping. But like I said, though, I'll be honest. I wasn't full extent trip, but I did pull that trip. Well, I do respect that y'all did have because a lot of things can be resolved through a conversation. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Exactly. Like, there should always be some type of conversation first because niggas really can take certain shit, certain ways. And I feel you and just being like, well, what's really up, homie? You know what I'm saying? I'm sure for him.
Starting point is 00:55:55 He was like, bro, it wasn't really nothing. But you did feel a certain type of way when you heard it. And if you did, it must have been something that you didn't like. Mm-hmm. You weren't tripping for nothing, honey. Yeah, not for sure.
Starting point is 00:56:06 You know what I'm saying? So I ain't go let you see her tell that story. Like, it was just a misunderstanding. No, it wasn't, nigga. You was mad, nigger said something about you. And at that time, you wasn't feeling it. For sure. You know how I get in front of these things.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I know how you get. You're trying to shut down and be like, but you're doing good, though. You're doing hell of good. I feel like I was doing good on the gig. I'm not good at these podcasts and shit. Hey, bro, you're hanging. We're like in the ninth round.
Starting point is 00:56:28 You're bobbing. No, we're good. We're in the seven. We still got some ways to go. You're fucking there, church. We are there. We are there. Sure.
Starting point is 00:56:37 No, so, and what about love? agree for? We're not talking about, yeah. Also, why do you think these beefs, why do they keep popping up? Like, what the fuck is going on? Is this like you sitting here and everything's cool, but then there'd be, like, a lot of shit to be going on. Yeah, shit just goes on.
Starting point is 00:56:55 You didn't think I knew this. Look at San Diego. He didn't think I knew this shit, like, San Diego is like, it's really, we're our own shit. Like, shout to the I. I got IE homies right behind the camera. Yeah. I'm my dogs.
Starting point is 00:57:07 I'm with these foods almost every day. Shout to the Orange County homies, But in San Diego, we look like, damn, you guys are so close to each other. You guys are more in each other's mixed. Foods from LA, be moving into IE all the time, you know what I'm saying? Because it's cheaper ramp. You know what's saying? Because of gentrification.
Starting point is 00:57:23 San Diego, we kind of got our own shit going on, so they don't really know what's going on down there unless you're from them here. They just think everybody rich. You know what you know? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You know all that ago.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Like in San Diego, like, Nick, it's expensive. So they're still shit fucked up, bro. Like. Yeah. It's expensive. We got our own spots where when gentrification hits, we don't move to, we move to like alcohol, spring valley and lemon grove and stuff like that. Limon Grove, yeah, no real shit.
Starting point is 00:57:52 For sure. Out a little bit south-east, you know, all that shit. Yeah, yeah. Niggas start moving out that way, you know. But niggas is really tripping over there in them sections, bro. Yeah, nah, for sure. You know, I asked my friend one time, right? My boy Slick, shout out to him.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Nick, he was just sitting at the beach one day by himself smoking a joint. And I said, man, what are you doing? He just got done doing something. And he was like, he's like, bro, you know how much money I pay to live here? He said, nigga, I'm coming to this motherfucker beach. He said, they paid, I pay for this shit. He said, I'm coming down to see some water, my nigga, straight up. He said, man, they charge me enough for it.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Nigger, why not? He said, I'm down here smoking me one. Regular, no jewelry, no nothing, just wanted to smoke one. Yeah, I wanted to be there. He said, there was nobody around. him, bro. He's just sitting there on the little bit. And that's the crazy part. We pay all that rent. Shout to Ryan Anthony.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Shout to Ryan Anthony and his clothing brand. He has sweaters and shirts. And on the back it says, barely seen the beach. We pay all that rent. We're over there on all that bullshit. And we don't really go see the beautiful part. You know what I'm saying that much?
Starting point is 00:59:00 When we should be there often, every weekend. You know what I mean? That's how I feel. When's the last time I went to the beach? Think about it, right? Ain't that a good one? I never even been to the beach with this fool. Come on, bro, all the money niggas pay.
Starting point is 00:59:13 But I think it's like this. How can you go see the beach when a nigga worried about trying to get the money for the rent next month? Yeah. Shit, I ain't got time to worry about going to sitting down at this motherfucker and smelling fish and jumping all in this shit. Fuck all that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Yeah, fuck all that shit, honey. Why don't you want to talk about a little grief or what happened? Turts, come on, talk to me, my nigga. Yeah, real, nigga. I'm talking about him. Is that ugly? No, that ain't ugly. Is it that ugly?
Starting point is 00:59:39 Like, where you- It's not ugly at all, I promise you. Yeah, it's not ugly at all. You my niggins. So if you don't want to talk about it. Some people don't even deserve the clout, you know? Is it clout or you just saying your piece? No, I don't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Okay. You know how we do it church? You know how we do a church? You know how we do a church? Oh, I want to talk about that. Hey, straight the fuck up. I ain't mad at that. Memo was worth talking about.
Starting point is 01:00:07 You know, that, fool. He said Griefel don't get no play from you. No playing this ride for you. Yeah, we're already talking too much about him. Okay. We'll leave that one. We'll move on past that one. He was talking about them shrooms earlier, too, bro.
Starting point is 01:00:21 I heard you like to write on them. Do you think that impacts the writing process? No, I don't write on shrooms. You probably heard there's somebody else. It's been sad. He's even like, what the fuck? You're writing on shrooms? Oh, you wrote the correct?
Starting point is 01:00:37 Where? I said that? He wrote a couple. He wrote a couple on here, so this was one of his. I must be real fucked up. I said, I should have to ask this one. I probably did right off the shoes. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:46 I'll be suited. I'll be turked at. But I don't do him like that. That was just like, I'm on my way to EDC. Yeah. Putts and putts and puts. Oh, bro. There's music like that all that.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Yeah, I went with the homies and shit. Sure, my boy, do know. Yeah. I don't know if I'm allowed to mention him on here. I don't want to talk about that. I don't want to talk about that. It's crazy. No, I'm going to talk about that.
Starting point is 01:01:12 I feel you. It's cool. I don't want to talk about that. Yeah, I'll feel you. Is that cool? That's cool. Okay. Just check, you sure?
Starting point is 01:01:22 Because I feel like it's like, you're trying to pay me back or something. No, and everything. I swear to God, that's what took me to EDC. If we took me, if we do no. Sure. Love. Let's tell him my boy. Tell him about boys.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Yeah, no, because you be bushing, gang. I ain't pushing. I ain't pushing. I love you, bro. No, I love you, bro. Is there anything, you know what I'm saying? Before we get about a year, is there anything you want to leave with the fans, anything with the viewers, you want to let them know anything new that you really working on something you really want them to pick up or something you want them to come to? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Just look out from all for my young homies coming. No love minutes. You know, young active. My little cousin, little man. You know, all the homies from the North, little Chino, Huey, all of them, you know. It's the artist, little demon. You know, everybody we're pushing with right now.
Starting point is 01:02:18 We got a cold squad, and we're not just one city. We connected from LA to Daigo to the Indio to the IE, little Ricky right here. Yeah. You know, little Ricky got some stuff coming with me, him, and Chito. It's about to drop any day, so, you know, it's about to go crazy. We're working right now, you know. now, you know, for sure.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Hey, man, I don't mind working with you, you know what I'm saying? I feel like I owe you a couple verses, so it ain't nothing. Yeah, it's sure you do. You know what I'm saying? Hey, hey, shout out my boy Sharp, look, I've been on probation and stuff like that, so I ain't been mingling, and that's why I kind of been out the way, and you see me disappears because, you know, sometimes. Everybody wanted to know where's a little weird?
Starting point is 01:02:55 Yeah. Where is he being? I had to disappear for a little bit. But I'm back, I'm off probation. I'm back outside. And Sharp, you know, me, I just told Sharp yesterday. I told them twice. Remember I was like, hey, I told, I was like, bro, I'm out here fucking with you now.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Like, I'm calling you when I'm in LA. I'm pulling up. So you're gonna start seeing me a lot more, you know, especially with this fool, you know? Do you feel like that's impacted your music a little bit, though, taking them breaks? It's like, was that a good time or just even chill out? Like you said, you don't want to call it necessarily taking a break. You just wanted to get some shit together, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Do you feel like that may have impacted it a little bit, you taking that time out? No, 100%. But I didn't took like six, seven, eight-month breaks like four times my career. You know, I'm only 25. You know, and I... You know, it was good because I needed to disappear. But then it wasn't good for my career, though. But I'm still pushing, you know, I'm not tripping off it, you know?
Starting point is 01:03:51 I'm still here. You know, I'm still rocking. And I'm ready to start getting it back rolling, you know what I mean? Especially when... Like you said, like none of my homies is rapid, but now I go all my young hummies and this one I'm pushing. So now I got a squad. behind me who's rapping too to where it's like and everybody go hard bro we're not letting
Starting point is 01:04:07 know if a homie come rapping our studio we're gonna tell him if he's trash you know like yeah yeah gonna tell like hey no you gotta change that one yeah you know no no sugarcoat it for you know no no we working over here and we go like it's crazy because this four ain't even drop like none of none of these foods dropped like that we have so much shit stocked up and it's like we watch by the end of the year my young homies is gonna be recognized for sure well I love that bro and I'll definitely be on the lookout for him hopefully you'm saying Benez he get on the rise and really he'll end up coming over here with you yeah you know I'm saying hopefully man you know he step it up I definitely see the
Starting point is 01:04:42 future for y'all man and I see where you're where y'all headed home me and if there's anything I can do for you weirdo you know I got your back my niggas dago we go we we go no matter what bro to the wheels fall off and go get four months I was the this who we got right now we got shark me yeah niggins so we're in the mix for We go- He's about to kick the door, then. We gonna kick the, man. Hey, I'm trying to beat the mother down.
Starting point is 01:05:03 There's a lot of talent. A lot of talent. Shout to everybody pushing, man. Man, love the man. Shout to my niggas, man. All my n'nack. All my nudge, man. All my knoll, all them, huh, me.
Starting point is 01:05:12 You're off that little knock for everybody. Yeah, Lil' knock. That's my nigga, really mashing. I mean, I feel like, like, Dego, we got some, we're gonna be a piece of the future here soon, man, of what's gonna be taking place in this West Coast rap game. I really believe that, honey. I'm glad that I could open the door for my people, Pentrotti, you know, because I'm gonna get my nigga over here, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:05:31 I'm gonna get them dudes, like, we're gonna do some shit on me. I'm gonna definitely be opening up the door for Daigo, my niggas. Yeah, no, yeah, hell, and that's what we need, because it's not just rapping, you know, we got a lot of, a lot of, uh... Man, you know what I'm saying? All of them niggas. A lot of people, like, of course the rappers, you got Lomaru, T.C. brothers, the Siette gang, you got everybody, you got everybody, you got everybody doing their stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Yeah, I know yabby and all of them from Siette gang. For sure. You got all them doing this stuff. And then you got people like hoodie hood. Hoodie hood, my nigga. Your YouTube channel is going crazy. Yeah, Hoodie Hood. Shout to my nigga Hood, man.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Real shit. Sure. We got hoodie hood going crazy. All type of stuff. You know, there's a lot of, even stuff like cooks and you know what I mean. Everybody's going crazy right now. Shout to the clothing brand. Shout out my boy Fuego SD.
Starting point is 01:06:15 And my boy, Tim, a lot of tech. Tim Flows, a lot of tech. Going crazy right now, you know. Well, I just want you to know, I appreciate you. Come fuck with me. you want to, church. Every time you hit the city, my niggie come into LA, man, I'll let me. We go hit the studio, whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:06:31 You hear me? Yeah, for sure. We need to get you down to studio. We need to get you down to the store. My nigga, do an in-store performance. Come on, we're gonna go do that right now in a little bit. Hey, he's gonna get mad. Hey, watch, you tell me, he'll get mad.
Starting point is 01:06:42 He'll be like, man, look, we're not on my couch all week. He's still late. He's been on my couch. I'm like, hey, you know, I'm like, hey, you know. It ain't nothing to you. I'll tell me off at Sharps, man. I don't need a room. I'm gil.
Starting point is 01:06:54 I'm good. Bro, straight up. Come on, we go to that end store. I think we need to get him up in that end store performance. Rimo was asking about that for you. So we definitely need to get you down there and go through that. Hey, y'all know what it is. Hey, man, this bit, hey, it's the Sharp tank.
Starting point is 01:07:08 No jumper. Yes, sir. Sharp as coolest podcast in the world. Hey, man, y'all know how we doing this shit. Hey, Mikey, shoot us out the motherfucking gym.

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