No Jumper - Lil Zay Osama on Not Being Just a Drill Rapper, Lil Durk Co-sign & More

Episode Date: September 3, 2022

Lil Zay Osama talks about the rise of his popularity, Sosa, Durk, fatherhood, says his girl should treat him like a king and rub his feet, and more! ----- 00:00 Intro 4:30 Zay enjoys making sad music more than anything else, says he's a real artist, storyteller, 6:00 Everything he raps on drill music is his real life, deleted many bars for being too real 12:06 LA is not crazier than Chicago, but in Chicago, there's a lot of random k*llings 13:32 When Adam was younger, he didn't know most rappers were talking about dr*gs when they said "cooking" 15:00 "You're gay if you get lipo" 16:40 Retrospect on the past few years since their last interview 19:19 Zay didn't know Adam went to O'block 24:05 Zay says he hasn't really talked to Sosa since 2012 28:37 Met Durk in 2009 34:33 Now that the song with Durk is out, everyone reaches out even the ones who left him on read 35:25 Zay hated that first interview with Adam 39:25 Joe Budden came for Adam about his titles and how he interviews opps 40:07 Zay says rappers shouldn't do interviews or answer the questions they don't wanna answer to 42:27 Back in the day everything was content for Adam, now he's more selective 43:02 Trenches Baby Series 50:08 Adam says Lena gives more critics than compliments, Zay dies laughing 50:52 Girls got the game f'd up apparently ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. First time doing an interview on the new set. So I had to fuck with somebody who I really with. Lisei Osama is in the building. Well, you're realest, man. Lisei Osama in the trench, baby, man. No jumper. Y'all know what it is.

You're somebody who I interviewed in the back of the bike shop a couple years ago. So how do you feel about this? A little bit nicer? I just, when I came in, I'm showing like, damn, Adam turned up. You got the whole building, staff, rooms, everything. This is what you can do when you do. don't buy any Dior or Louis Vuitton. Oh, we can still do it if you buy.

It depends on how much money you make. You just got to make it work. Yeah, no, but that's why I think. I'm like, man, I could have bought hell of Balenciaga shoes, but I bought this fucking office building instead. That was the smartest thing you could do. It's like a long-term investment. Showed up.

But you got the flyers da Vinci suits, so what can I say? I had this shit on yesterday. You got your name on your shoes. I'm a trap. I had this shit on yesterday. I just put on the shoes today, though. Wait, wait, that's your face on the side of it, too? Huh?

Yeah, my face on the side of it. Where did these come from? Tip Customs. Oh, shit. So they just showed up, or you told them, like, I need some shoes. I was at one of my shows in Rock Island. Okay. I bent DM and told him I want the shoes

because he tagged me in him when he made him. Right. He ain't ever respond back, but he popped up backstage at the show and brought me the shoes, though. That's fine. I don't know if I would wear shoes with my own face on it, though. Hell yeah, these bids are hard. What if you scuff them up? If I can ruin your own face.

No, I ain't going to scuff him up. You get too much respect? I'm going to put these bids in the frame. So when I'm done with him. So you wear them like once or twice and then you're gonna throw them up on the wall? Today probably the only day I'm gonna win for real. I'm like, I'm going to no jump. Let me go and throw them on my exclusives.

That's fire. You need a new fit for every show or can you rock the same fit for like multiple shows in a row? I ain't a fit for a show. I need a fit for air show. Or I like a fuck around and do like a different shirt, same pants or same pants. It's just pieces. Pants, you got to be able to use more than once. Yeah.

You can use them more than once, but it just depends on what environment you're going in. But the real cheat coat I know for. I notice for rappers that they'll have like, they'll rock like a black Calvin Klein shirt but have all the chains on over it and so that the average person doesn't even notice that they're just wearing a $20 shirt. Yeah, that's smart though.

That's smart though. You told me you didn't have time to go get your jewelry because I was rushing you to get here? Well, they was rushing me. They're like, come on, we can't miss this again. We already missed it once. Because you're supposed to do it like three weeks ago or something, right?

Yeah, yeah. Okay. I left that shit in the drawer. But how many chains you got at this point? Like three. Okay. I'm like, right. right now i'm gonna go get some more big shit you already know it's turnt right now really i gotta pop

out the wood works with yeah i got a fool man you know it you know it feels like your career is like kind of reaching another high point right now oh yeah for sure yeah yeah shout out my brother smirk on bro right i mean it's a beautiful thing because like i remember when i first interviewed you that it was like the moment where we had just started fucking with your music so it's like i was interviewing you while listening to your shit like probably getting in the car and driving back listening to it after that because it had just kind of really and I know you've been making music for a long time before that yeah I was just getting in I was just getting into to the like industry real LA lifestyle and some

shit right when I can't let fuck with you yeah yeah those are kind of like early days of I don't know what you call it that's what I first got signed that's what I first got signed oh okay yeah yeah start going up crazy and I feel like you were real early on like some of the like pain music type shit that a lot of people kind of talk about and make now I feel like you were sort of early on that wave. I created that wave. You created that wave. All the pain and shit, that's me.

Especially in Chicago. Okay. Like you hear pain, think of pain, you're gonna think of Zay. Right. Even like all my drill music gonna make it now, they like, bro, please drop some pain. That's why I gave them that Trench Baby 3 tape. Like if you notice, I did, the first songs, drill.

Like the first six to eight songs drill. The next six to eight songs is like pain. Right. So to you, it's two completely different styles and making music? Yeah, it's two completely different styles. Different beats. Different beats, different melodies.

Right. Do you got to be in the right state of mind to make one versus the other? It all depends on how I'm feeling that day for real or what happened or, you know? It all depends, for real. It's all energy. I mean, I feel that, because sometimes I get in the car

and I want to listen to young boy, no cap, that type of shit that's a little bit more emotional. And sometimes I want to listen to Dirk or I want to listen to Vonn. I want to listen to some straight violent shit. Yeah. Hell yeah, I'm the same way. Right.

So when I want to list this pain, I go turn on my pain and shit. When I want to list this game shit, I go turn on my game shit. Or I turn on smirk shit or one of my homie or something. Yeah, that makes sense for sure. What do you enjoy making more, though? What do you feel like is actually the- Ain't gonna lie, I enjoy making pain music more. It's more you?

It's more of me because I'm a storyteller. I still, I tell stories. Right. And like, with all the shit going up off the drill music, like, ah, Jay, yeah, drop some more drill, drop some more drill, Everybody in my drill drill drill drill drill but the drill ain't really what got me to drill That's what I'm saying because when I interviewed you I remember you I don't think you said I don't make drill music But you were sort of like now I don't do like that traditional rap type shit

Because I'm like more of a real artist right people nowadays that do more to like drill drill all day They can say anything it's not a story they just talking you know what I'm saying so they can make that shit all day That's not no real artist right you gotta be versatile you gotta know to switch the melodies talk about shit like niggas go from jury to a bitch to a car, 50 subjects in a song. What the fuck is you talking about? I'm lost now. I like to keep my shit on track from beginning to end. You gotta understand it.

As an old school rap fan, I like that a lot. I don't like when like bar one is about how they got a dope car and bar two is about how they got a bad bitch at bar three is some other shit. It's like, I like, and especially when like the hook clearly indicates that this song is gonna be in a certain direction and then the artist is just bouncing all over the place first it was about a girl then the whole verse about a drill right it don't make sense yeah

definitely got to do better um artists but okay when you make drill music do you feel like you have to give them a little bit of like real life in terms of because that's really like what made drill huge right when i make drill music is only my real lifestyle it's only what i experienced what i've been through what my homie doing and going through now right we ain't gonna say i was such-and-such-such killed him and put a nigga out there. But, you know, we're going to be subliminal about a lot of shit and we're going to talk about whatever we want, you know? That's how we just, that's how I make drill music.

You ever record a bar and then you have to just like delete it and be like, nah, it's too much? Hell yeah. I recorded it, but I'm like, oh, bro, let me take that out. Folks, you think I ought to take this out? Yeah, you went too crazy. But it kind of hurts you in your heart because you're like, damn.

If they hit it right here, oh, that's they turn. Right. Or you could just, you could throw a disclaimer on the whole fucking album like, Dirk did and just say, this is all cap. This is not Pax, or whatever you said. That was one of the smartest moves, blood could do. Right. It's all cap.

Oh, bro. That immediately made me wonder, like, what are Dirk's conversations with his lawyers like? Because I feel like that is something where maybe the lawyer told him, like, listen, like, this would be a good idea. This might help you out in the future. You know, they'd be trying to, they're trying to use lyrics against people

all that shit nowadays. I heard it just got banned though or something about somewhere. Well, they're working on some stuff, because I guess in California, there's a bill that looks like it might pass. And it's not saying that they can never use rap lyrics, but it's saying that they can't use rap lyrics that don't pertain to the specific scenario. So I think that it would probably eliminate some stuff like a rapper saying,

hey, I got 10 guns. And then they're like, oh, well, he got caught with 10 guns. And he said it in the song, he had 10 guns. So of course, they're his guns. But if you have a bar that's like March 27th, we slid on your little cousin, I'm pretty sure that's still good to go. But I'm quite sure a nigger make the song about the 10 guns after they beat the case or got over the cases on it. Oh, you see that all the time, man. I was watching interview with somebody yesterday. So how the fuck is they going to go and get him again after the case is already over?

And he talked about it in the song after. Well, no, but I think because you can't, that's double jeopardy. You can't try something for the same charge twice. But I mean, a lot of these dudes are really like doing some crazy shit and then like basically recording a song about it the next day. And the song's been out for six months while the police are trying to solve the crime. Yeah, yeah. And you know, half the cops are sitting driving in the car listening to the lyrics thinking like, hmm. That's dumb as hell, but I ain't gonna lie.

That's why I love my city because I feel like it ain't. It ain't like that. Like how you know how you're in New York, you get caught with a gun, bro. They'll give you 10, 15 years. Like, boy, you'll get caught with a gun in Iraq and get out tomorrow on I bond or something. I know, and I heard that in New York,

it's like almost impossible to carry illegal gun, but in Chicago, I heard it's actually not that hard to get certified for a concealed carry. But I feel like obviously a lot of people still aren't gonna do it, right? It's not. It's just people are too lazy and too goofy to take the time out of their day

to go get a conceal to take the classes or pay the money. Right. People don't do it. So, you're at, just walk around with illegal shit. You're at the point in your career now where it starts to become, all right, maybe I should have real security when I pull up to certain things. I ain't going to lie, I started getting this little feeling like, I need to go get my,

concealed to carry. You know, I ain't got no real cases no more. I did do with my life all my cases old and shit, you know what I'm saying? Right. So it's like, I'm thinking to my mind like, damn, I do need to go get concealed carry and shit. I'm in his position. I can't let nothing stop me or get in the way, you hear him.

So I could be riding around with choppers or handguns and all this type of shit with no Just me. Beautiful thing, yeah. All that police ain't gonna do shit. You feel, I hear that thought, you know what I'm saying? I just gotta take the time with my day to go do it. I'd be doing a lot of running around, but I do use security sometimes. Right.

I mean, there's been various times where I realized how top rappers move around and that there'll be like a top rapper who gets into a situation. And he has three armed security, three of his homies who got guns, three, you know, like a real, like, they're being so on top of it. of it so when I hear about some shit like that I'm like well bro if you're if you're a famous person in hip hop rolling around one security guard is like an easy decision right right not all the time obviously because you got to still wake up in the morning to be a normal person but when you're going out you're going to doing whatever I mean gotta be got to be safe these days I ain't a lot sometimes I just go out the crib oh hell yeah all the time I go out the trip dolo I don't

don't know security living the same house with me or you know they be having their own life's going on too so i'd be like hey man i need you over here i'll have 30 40 minutes it's old with i'm already gone right i got shit to do yeah and real i feel like when you're doing nice stuff but that's the shit that gets people cut up it's like all right last night i went to a fancy restaurant i had to do a meeting whatever i would never even think about bringing security to do that kind of thing but you also know this is hollywood and people get caught leaving the valet and people follow them or people fucking track your car all these crazy-ass lae stories like i've been in la la la for a minute coming back and forth me and all my homies god forbid we ain't never ran into no incident like that

and it still don't feel like it's like that right it don't feel like you got to watch out or like it don't feel like that to me i don't know why and i've been out for a long a long time yeah but you're also not moving around like a dummy i feel like a lot of people moving around like dummies yeah niggas just walking up mail rolls and shit all that goofy shit and if you walk around no security no shooter you got $50,000 watch on. I mean whatever happens to you is kind of your own fault. I ain't a lot yesterday we were leaving out the stove my homie like well the niggas was just watching us right there really yeah we come out the store they all standing right there in the front by their car you feel so you know I got on all my jay I got my daughter with me you know phone

them already on them though right but we're just seeing I'm just looking hey what up yeah we know you we know you're yeah what I was they're just looking feeling the situation out they were just looking to go down. I mean, that's the right mentality. Your mentality can't be, I'm going to just try to avoid everything. Your mentality has to be like, I'm ready for whatever. My mentality is still the same as if I'm in Iraq. I'm like this all the day.

I'm like this all day. Like, I'm always on piece of Q's. I ain't trying to have nothing. Safety first, yeah. Okay, but what's the status of Chicago in terms of like, everybody says how L.A. is way crazier right now than it used to be a couple of years ago. How do you feel about where Chicago's at? I don't feel like LA is crazy.

That's first of all. But like I feel like Chicago, like, what can I say about Chicago? It's a lot of miscellaneous, goofy-ass killing. I feel like it is getting worse because it ain't no structure, and no guidance. You know what I'm saying? So these young guns, they just grown up, watching these videos, gun, gun, gun, you know.

Like, they just, just a lot of negative shit on the internet. And, you know, kids, they got phone. My daughter, she's on the phone all day on YouTube. on YouTube. Right. You hear what I'm saying? Like, it's just certain shit, like, influence these kids. But does she watch anything that worries you?

She watched all my videos. Okay. All my videos. And it could be some bad in that, too, because I talk about a lot of other shit, you know what I'm saying? But for the most part, my girl just let her listen to her, let her watch this shit. Because all she thinks, she don't think about the negative shit. She just said, da, that, that, that, that, that, you know what I'm saying?

Wait, how old? She, she too. Oh, my kid's almost two, too. Yeah, my son, my son and my dad. They're three and four. Okay. I talk about my videos all the time too. They say the same thing.

Oh yeah. My kid listens to all the worst rap music on earth for sure. She probably knows King Vaughn's songs by heart at this point, but she ain't at the age where she's going to be like, so what was he saying about in verse two? About time she gets older, she's going to forget about that shit. Yeah, yeah. But also I think about myself, I was like 11 and 12 when I realized that I was listening to like Jay-Z and Freeway and Beanie Siegel and they were talking about cooking a lot. And then I realized they're talking about cooking crap. They're not talking about cooking food.

So did that make you want to be a dope boy or what? No, but it definitely made me feel like a fucking idiot that it took me that long to realize that they weren't talking about like bacon salmon or some shit. Who the fuck would be talking about that in the song? I mean, they're talking about cooking. One 900 hustler. Come on, man, you know Jay-Z whole image. You know he could- Yeah, but I'm saying I was like 10, 11 years old and like crack doesn't really make sense in my head yet. I'm like not really knowing that this is something that you have to cook.

cook even right now i couldn't do it if i had to do it i'd have to look up a youtube tutorial or something but i mean one one 900 hustler he says something about like get you a bitch that cook good and i'm just like that's the first thing you got to do when you get to town you got a girl that cook for you like why don't you just get some fast food and then once you cook crack right okay i got you yeah no i think you you're taking it wrong no get you a bitch that cook good i forget the exact lyric but they were talking about like setting up shop in a new town and shit like they're definitely talking about cooking crack uh because you could go carl's junior maybe maybe i don't know maybe they was just in the era where they had bitches cooking their crack i mean in this day and age

where you can find a chef on instagram you could you could be talking about either one for sure bro what you're eating me yeah what's the diet like i ain't gonna lie um you're on your healthy shit yeah you're still just doing whatever i'm still really really eating whatever for real but like i'm trying to work out of shit and all that shit so i'm getting my six-pack get my shit in order you know what i can't hurt so i can take out my shirt at these shows how these bishops going crazy although i like a rapper who'll take his shirt off despite being fat as fuck that's hard you're funny i was telling house phone that i was like bro if you're a rapper next time you perform take your fucking shirt off who cares if you're fat no

If you fat as hell, you bogus' hell taking off your shirt. I can make a list of rappers. You got stretch marks everywhere. Role-popping rappers. I know, pop huge rappers that are on stage. They weigh 400 pounds. They got the shirt off. Everybody cheering for them.

Nobody's thinking about it. Why you think these rappers go get all these fucking tattoos and they fetish hair? They're trying to have their stretch marks and shit. They're trying to make their body look good at some weight. Right. So, motherfuck, forget about you fat as hell. I know some people who got bullet holes and they still write the shirt off. They don't give a fuck it.

They look like, they look like, The whole stomach is mutating into something different. Nah, I'm different. I want my shit set up the right way. I want to look good when I take it. You want to get the lipo, though? I would never get no. You would never do it.

It's commonplace now. That shit ain't common where we're from. Yeah? You get lipo, your ass gay. That's for anybody. Damn. Your ass gay if you get lipo. We might have just started a Shotown war right there.

Ain't who won't war? Nobody. The people who are getting lipo. No, they ain't going to war over no shit like that. Let me ask you this. course like the last time we interviewed like three years ago I guess what's been going how would you describe where you've been at throughout that because I feel like you know you first had those songs go viral and then it's like ever since then you've been trying to figure out like

all right exactly how do I proceed from here but what were those years like um it was like more like just trying to figure out what my fans won't like figure out um what songs to drop and time and you know like I was going through a a lot of shit with managers, like switching managers. It was just a lot of shit within my career, you know what I'm saying, that I was going through because I had dropped this reggae song, right? You know, I do the drill, I do all these different types of genres of music, but we had dropped the reggae song, and I feel like that's where my career took like a fall at. Really? When I dropped that reggae song.

See, I don't even remember the song. It was a dope song, you know what I'm saying? It's a nice song, but it was bad timing. You think it was too much of a risk? It was bad time and it was just like, they're not going to accept anything for me just yet. I'm not that big enough for them to just be like, hey, Jay, Jay dropped this, let's go listen to it.

At that time, it wouldn't like that. You know what I'm saying? So it was like, when I dropped that, they was all looking like, this gangster ass, nigga, what the fuck is he doing? Right. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I dropped that.

That shit flop. That shit was weakest hell, went down. You know, so I just had to get back to myself with the drill and the pain. You feel me and get fans what they want again, bro, you know. Was that a weird feeling, though, because as a rapper, when you start popping off, you start to get the feeling of, oh, I could drop whatever, and these people are going to fuck with it. Were you getting a little too confident?

I was getting a little bit too confident for show. I'm still living, you know what I'm saying? But it's just, you just got to know, you know what I'm saying? Like, if I'm doing all this gangster drill music and all this pain music, and then I come out the blue with some type of other style of rap, everybody going to be like, what the fuck is he doing? back to your old ways or old flows like you're getting in the industry and trying to do anything. That's how they're looking at it.

I mean, even Drake got a lot of hate for dropping that dance album. And that's Drake. His most recent project was like very little rap and it was mostly like club-type beats and it was more like dance music. That was a huge risk really if you look at Drake. I feel like it's Drake so people kind of are used to him trying a lot of different types of music and all things considered it probably did pretty well. But at the same time, I mean, even if you're Drake,

If you drop a project that is totally different than what they're used to, then it's like pretty likely that you're gonna get some kind of reaction. Right. Definitely. So you didn't even know that I went to O Block. No, I ain't know you went to O Block.

How do you feel about that? You think it was a smart idea? Yeah, you know, you'd be all on these interviews and all in LA and shit. Like, you know, you come to the rack and connect with the people more. Yeah. You know what I'm gonna fuck with you more.

You really popped out in the trenches, gave back, chill with some of the members, you know? Like, yeah. Niggas fuck with you. that they love that a lot of interviews don't just bounce out here on the trenches and just do that it's good to humanize it you know because you used to hearing about this place as this fucking murderous ass place but then when i actually go there everybody hanging out smiles on their faces no fights no bad shit everybody chilling smoking weed fredo bang shooting a video randomly right

there as you know it was a totally different vibe than what i expected and that's why i just feel like for chicago i feel like morfocus could really bring this shit together for real because It's like, for real, for real, only motherfuckers left is everybody that fuck with each other. You know, everybody else that's out of niggas either dead and jail or ain't on shit. Everybody like literally from the rappers and shit that's in Chicago that's popping in woo. Hey, fuck with each other. We can bring this shit together, like, you know. Right.

It don't just take one. Well, it was interesting because I was talking to shoebox, baby. I realized that he himself has decided that he wasn't going to diss his ops in his music. It's pointless. Fuck that shit. We get money. We're trying to go up. We're trying to take care of families, kids. Like, longevity. You know, we ain't trying to crash out. Because if you did that kind of song right now, it's more likely to just get attention from just the city. It's not really going to be anything outside there. It ain't going to be no real wild shit. You know. And that's what niggas brains be this small. That's what I be telling my homie. I'm like, we can't just keep on this and options doing all this music only for the city. Right. You know what I'm saying? We got to do this shit for the world. We're trying to be bigger than ever, you know. But to be fair, Dirk is at the craziest level that we've really seen anybody from Chicago get to in terms of street rap.

And he still very much will let you know how he feels about some shit involving. Yeah, but he ain't just like, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, this, this dead person, this that dead person. He'll say it in a creative way, but everybody knows. That's the way he's supposed to say it. Yeah. He's in a higher place. He's in a higher space. like he ain't posted say no names or like he's supposed to do it how he's doing but that's a tribute thing is he's

dropping bars that are for the people who watch all the youtube shit and know about who was doing what in a vlog and who who said what yada yada it's like the some of the bars might be missed my 95 percent of the audience might not know what the fuck he's talking about but the fucking real diehard fans still like knowing that he's willing to talk about shit that's real to him right Because a lot of times that's the biggest problem as a rapper is that you get to the point where Nothing that you talk about feels real or important, you know? No hell no, but that's why you got to like stay connected with the people like Niggas be niggas be getting on and like go to L.A and never go back to their city go to L.A. and sit in the house and play the game like niggins whole life's in mind says change

so niggas don't be outside getting the whiff of really what's going on standing to tone with the culture so how you gonna make music and you don't even know what the fuck going on now you can't make those songs about the streets and you don't know what's going on in the streets. Right. But that's kind of the dream too, right? What? To be able to, uh, can we turn the, who's, who's, who's, that's my phone? Oh, that's yours. Um, that's kind of the dream, right? Be able to duck off, like for me personally, if I'm able to just leave everything alone and just be in the crib, that's pretty nice, right? But really, you're not able to leave everything alone being the crib because you're not financially stable for real. Right. You feel what I'm saying? Well, some people are.

Niggas be acting like it. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Niggas be acting like it. You know what I'm Like once you get to that space where you can really kick your feet up and you got money coming in and you ain't got to go nowhere Then you can really right that comfortable and do it too you know because I mean Sosa is the definitive Get money be like fuck this shit move move get the mansion be posted up in in California and not really ever have to deal with any of the Chicago bullshit ever again How we look at so so so to go to the drill music You feel I mean all that but like Sosa like kind of in a in a in a in a in a in a in a in a little bit of like I'm a in a little bit of a little bit little bit away like he disconnected from the trenches. Oh yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because

he's not in the trenches no more. So he can't really get you that slang, that talk, that real, real that niggas going through on a daily and shit that's happening on the daily. He can't talk about now because he ain't living now. You know what I'm saying? But to be fair, he basically like can't go back to Chicago, right? Because the cops are going to arrest him. He goes back there. He can't play shows there. Like his shit's all fucked up when it comes to going to Chicago. So it's very understandable why he would make this decision and he also is just kind of that kind of person he's he's quiet he's to himself he's not necessarily mr. you know niggas change i ain't saw social since 2012 bro real yeah yeah other than like rolling loud or shit like and we still ain't even

talk at those events but like i ain't saying so since 2012 since we was in kean basement yeah because you said that you were around during his whole early come up well what was it like during those days i mean really blood like he was just in the studio all the time record and like right whatever they needed to go they went where they needed to go and came right back to Ken crew to record type of shit you know Ken first I know Ken you knew Ken at the DJ Ken first before you knew Sosa no I knew both of them at the same time when I met Sosa I met Ken yeah if I'm not mistaken well it was Ken I don't know if I can't remember if Ken was coming down up to our studio on 47 and Prairie

because that's when buck 20 brick boys was around and shit like that and Ken used to come down there Leaky Leake used to go down there, you know, my cousin was leaky, he made our Sosa Beaks and shit. Right, yeah. I heard you talking about that, yeah. Yeah. But so, okay, at that time, were you just happy

to be around or were you thinking, I wasn't happy to be around. I'm gonna be a rapper. It was just life, it was just regular. Right. I ain't know, soce was gonna blow up. I ain't know nobody was around him was gonna be nothing. It was just gang banged street shit, you know, me.

I was there for the studio. I was done, you know what I'm just kicking it? Right. But so you were thinking about how to get your own rap career going even then? Hell yeah, I was thinking, I had it going. you know what saying right you were already dropping yeah so see even like man zay writes on for me really yeah yeah look like i used to be with a group called crew kids so every time he see me

crew kid you know what i'm saying like saying my name and shit like that you know wow but i ain't seen so i don't know how he act i don't know how he is no more you know niggis changed but i mean i just think when every time i've been around him he seems very happy to be smoking his weed and chilling in the studio and he just seems like he got money and didn't really feel the need to do anything much more than that you know be posted up And long as you know that and you that comfortable and you feel you can lay back. You ain't got to go back to the trenches. You ain't got to adapt to the people, the coach, or whatever.

You could do you and stay in your line. Right. So if he, that financially stable to not be connected to the trenches, it's cool. Hey. But you were saying that after that time period that you felt like you would have blown up sooner, but you just kept getting locked up? I kept getting locked up. I don't know what the fuck was going on.

I don't even know what was going on. Bad luck or were you whiling out? I ain't gonna lie. A little bit of both. I was wilding out, but I used to be still cars, I was rob, motherfuck, I used to be doing all type of goofy. You were a Kia boy? Huh?

You were a Kia boy? The fuck is that? You ain't heard about that? There's a new crew called the Kia Boys. They're all about just stealing Kiyas, because I guess they're easy to steal. It's a new movement. It's taken over the whole country. They probably got them in Chicago.

No, they haven't got them in Chicago, but... But you used to steal cars, just for what, just for fun? Yeah, no, we steal cars, slide out of them bits. We were still, you steal cars. cars to pull up on the holes so when you pull up they're like oh yeah the bins you know this 22 we 15 14 years old 13 we pulling up the school and the bins are ultima or something right these holes going crazy bro we tell they these are real cars baby right man if i had known how to steal a car when i was 15 16 holy shit i'm gonna have been doing that every weekend see see we we used to

We used to wake up seven, six in the morning, five in the morning. Like, you know, we used to go to the good neighborhoods. Five, six in the morning, you really going outside, starting your car for work going back in the crib. Oh, town. We come right on the block steal your shit. We got keys in there, I think. Wow. I never thought about that.

My parents would make me do that when I was a kid. We used to be doing hotels, like, you know how the hotel valet people? Yeah. They'd be so fucking slow there. Get your key away. All you got to do is come and say you lost your thing. They gonna get your key away. We go right to the garage.

Pomp, pump, pump. Pomp that bitch, right that we're gone, gang. Oh, I don't know. We're in the bitch. Oh, man, that's fucked up. I might never get my car to the valet again. Man, this shit even going on right now. Ballet people would be fluky as hell.

You were never a scammer? Who? You were never a scammer? I did something, everything, bro. Oh, really? Tapped in? I did some everything, dude. Okay. Bro, I'm experienced as hell.

Is that shit still big in Chicago, though? What? scamming culture that shit big everywhere it is still yeah hell yeah I don't know how the fuck they get away with it feels like everybody should be so on point at this point that they should see it coming in terms of the employees up and down shit you just don't see it right makes sense um so when did you actually first meet dirk I met dirk what they were like oh nine or something shit okay I was I was I was fucking with um LEP LEP Bouges boys

them they were big yeah he he was the um manager over there right and he had i i was he was my manager at the time you know what i'm saying and dirk stayed dirt grandma stayed right across the street from the studio okay type of shit so he had told dirt come over there and shit one day i just shook out with him said what up and shit like that you know saying this one i'm ahead about myself all that shit right that was the first time i'm at blood then over time you know i'm growing up going going through jails all that shit i got out dirt was like even bigger than what he was You know what I'm saying? Right.

Because he's one of the very few rappers who's been able to just keep consistently grinding and keep consistently getting bigger. Yeah, he was, yeah. It's motivational because a lot of rappers, I feel like they pop off a little bit and then they keep trying, but it doesn't go anywhere and they feel like they have to give up at some point. Dirk has been through periods where I'm sure he felt like his shit was kind of stagnating early on and he just pushed through it and kept getting better with the music, you know? That's how I am.

Keep going, don't ever stop. Yeah. But yeah, blood, um, when I had got out of jail, and shit like that I had got SB as my manager okay that was dirt manager right but then when I had got out he wasn't dirt manager no more he was just still around type shit right because Dita ain't dirt brother and um as B will take me to the studio with dirt like we went to my end was in the studio I was in studio with dirt was in studio with dirt and shit we made one song you know it's just like his people fuck with my people

my people fuck with his people you know my cousin Jay Money was from O Block that died you know what I was one of dirt close friends like it's just a lot of ties with us right Right. But so on a personal level, like, did you really start the vibe while you're in the studio and start getting along and shit? Yeah. That's like my mentor. You feel me? So blood, pull up on me, talk to me, chop it up. You feel, we go to the studio. Right. All that. I mean, he got my number. I got his number. We text. Like, all that. We talk about, like, the pain music versus the drill shit. I mean, he's somebody who's really kind of mastered that.

And he also does shit that's damn near like R&B type shit that's more for the girls and everything. He can kind of, like, easily navigate all that. Just like me, like we're going in the direction, bro. We're real versatile. We're real artists, bro. Right. And so the song that you put out that's been blowing up, fuck my cousin. When did that actually come together? And did you know that that was going to be the first song

that you, like, publicly released together? I knew that I wanted to have Dirk on the song. Okay. You know what I'm saying? But blood doing his own thing, you know, he got a lot of shit going on. So I ain't want to just overly be like, hey, hey, hop on this, hop on the house. You know what I'm saying? So I sent it to him.

I'm like, blood. let me know you feel what I'm saying he came back like shit I wasn't gonna do whatever for you you my brother nigger like whatever you need for me on behind do 100% like what's up we're gonna do here go the song right you know what I'm but so you you had already made it and then you sent it then yeah I made it at first so were you surprised that he was whiling on the verse yeah motherfucking no I wouldn't I was I knew he was gonna act done on that's why I said man I need dirk on this right you know what I just had that real drill feel

like that you know right okay my energy on that motherfucker I meant everything I said me as a fan and I know you as a person I know you're not on some fake shit but the first thing I thought when I saw Lisei featuring Dirk I thought okay I'm gonna watch this and I'm I feel like by the time I'm done watching this I'm gonna know if Dirk really fucks with him or if this is just a song and by the end of Dirk's verse I'm like he would never give a verse like this to somebody unless he really felt strongly about them you know he man

body that shit. I can sing his verse from front of the back. Right. And bro, like, I killed that shit on, bro. So what was your reaction, though, when you heard it? You were like, wow, he chose to really address some specific shit here. And I heard them. No, matter of fact, the first time I heard it was

when I sent it to him, he facetime me in the studio. He had the career in the studio by itself. Yeah, I just finished this shit. I couldn't let you hear. He'd probably play on that bitch, boom. Listen. to that bit. On side him talking that talk on.

Jay Money, boy, you just acted bad on my daughter. Send that bitch to me right now. He often have my engine and mix it. I'm sending to you. Right. We get to talkin' about some other shit then. You know, we hang up. Send that shit to me, we shoot the video.

We put, he pulled up to the video with a million of cash. A million of cash. Yeah, niggas don't just do that. That's how you know, like, we realize locked in for, like, he pulled up a million of cash. I wonder how long you had that for. Because every time I've had like 20 grand in cash, I'm like, I got to put this in the bank. The money, it looked at fresh.

It looked like it just came out. Yeah. You ever see that where I'd rather be dragging around the same 50K for a couple years? Yeah, I'm not doing that, bro. Start to look dog-eared. I got like 60K in a bag right now. For real? I ain't had that shit for more than goddamn the day.

What's that? Like, you just run into the drink man? You might need that? No, hell. I might want to shop. It's my girl birthday September 1st, too, so I'm from an act of fool. You know that. Shit, I might want to shop, too.

That's why I got a credit card. You're funny, sir. That doesn't work? We max those out. Oh, okay. No, but you are right, though, because half the time I go to buy some designer on credit card, they're like, oh, you got to call the bank. And I'm mad, embarrassed in the Gucci store on the phone with the bank.

But actually, it don't happen anymore, but it was happening for a while. I can't go to shop with you. Yeah, I know, that's embarrassing. It's pathetic. You might call security on me. You think I'm a scammer. That's the fucked up feeling, though, when you feel like you're scamming, but you're really using your own money, but you feel like you're scamming?

That's how that decline for you. Oh yeah that the decline like everybody in the whole building knows Everybody looking at you so no shit decline you like oh hold on my bed right So since that song dropped though you feel like you see the the OTF fans tapping in with you more and everything seeing his fan base actually realizing what you got going on A lot of niggas that I been hit up for features DM me back blood ain't see the message right Ben saying they said well I just didn't reply back because I want popping I know what's going on must be crazy being a rapper though because do you do you hold a grudge against those kind of people

I don't hold the grudge because shit I'm gonna do the same thing. I'm gonna be the same way. Business at the end of the day. If it ain't beneficial or if it ain't your ass out of there. Bro, no features, no nothing. If it can't uplift me, your ass out of there. Right. But you got homies.

Fuck with it organically of me and my personal heart. Your ass out of that. But your homies, you fuck with them. Come on, my homies, day with me, day one, in and out, through whatever, up and down, high and lows. I can't forget about them. Definitely. Definitely.

Okay. Yeah, and you know what's funny is when I was watching that first interview that we did back in the day. I hated that interview. You hated it? I hated it. Because I don't know. I don't know.

I felt like it was rushed and I felt like we was talking about a lot of goofy ass shit. For real? I don't remember anything goofy, but I remember pressuring you to do the interview like, yo, I fuck with these songs. You got to come out and do the interview. I was hitting you like really pressing you. You like, we got to get this now. I was like, this is the one.

Yeah. bro not fucking to the whole podcast though but in that interview though I was uh you were I was asking what music you were into and you were talking all about how you were a dirt fan so it really came full circle I've been a dirt fan right they want to hell yeah that's brocky talk that shit right um okay you're in the public eye all of a sudden you're kind of like a clout lick for a lot of people who might not have that much going on I'm not gonna say names but I was scrolling through YouTube all of a sudden I found a video on a certain YouTube channel from a young Chicago videographer talking to some dudes I never heard her before and they talk

about little zay they got negative shit to say yada yada yada everybody gonna have negative shit to say gang you feel i i did say to a lot of people that can never be taken back mniggas did say to me that can never be taken back right we enemies enemies gonna talk about enemies they're gonna say the words hurtful bogus right niggas might even lie yeah i was watching it thinking i don't know if i believe and it wasn't really anything that specific it was kind of like oh it sounds like you don't really fuck with y'all yeah niggas just hey niggas is mad right fucking niggas but the game is weird now though right because it's like that that's an entry point into getting known is like if you have an issue with lose all of a sudden that makes you

you're gonna go tag him way more interesting than just being you right yeah way more yeah niggas can't beat them nowadays right yeah i don't know i feel like knicks clout chase all type of shit i don't codone and that shit okay but here's the question Would you ever hold it against the videographer, the person who filmed it? Like, what if I was the one who did that interview? I interviewed, I would not do this, but if I interviewed some random motherfuckers, and they got something to say about you, are you looking at me crazy because I platformed them? Hell yeah, because why the fuck would you go interview some random ass motherfuckers that can't even uplift your platform?

Yeah. You ain't even go get the nigga that can't. You go get the nigga that can't to talk about the nigga that can. That don't even make sense. Yeah. Your platform ain't going nowhere. your shit in the mud your shit ain't never going to the top but what if the person who's talking shit is actually somebody who was really like close to the person a hand because i that thing that's

popping off my head i'm thinking about the whole thing with no limit kiro and g herbo when when when cairo comes out and has all this stuff to say i mean everybody was watching it but also like for me as a person i'm thinking i don't know that's a nigger that you've seen with her that's that's a nigga that you've seen the video right though with her right right now to this day on shows with her like sitting right here with her Like that's a nigga that you always seen around her like up to date. Yeah. You feel me like if bro I hung with a lot of niggins back then when I was a young nigga right I fuck around took their guns before I hung with them to took their guns I hung with them to rob their ass and rob their people Right, it was always something if it wasn't me or my niggas I won't fuck with you for real I was using your goof ass for something right

I mean bro I was acting bad when I was young but you respect people who get the name up by basically a like talking about people that used to be cool with. That's how they're gonna get their name up, like talking about a nigga that's relevant. You ain't relevant, your ass, I don't know that. Yeah, I mean, that that hype is very unlikely to last too long, right? Yeah, it ain't gonna last, especially with me,

because I'm never gonna respond, especially on no internet. I ain't give you no feedback, no comments, no publicity at all. Yo ass is gonna be talking yourself in these interviewers. They gonna come and try to interview me, I'm not doing it. Like, you feel me? I ain't gonna, I'm not no internet, all-a-ass type nigg-old.

I'm gonna be doing all that shit. I'll go to jail. Right. 100%. I was doing an interview with Joe Button the other day, and he was giving me a hard time about interviewing street rappers and asking him about street shit, basically, ask him about people they don't get along with. Whatever.

Is that Joe Button? Yeah. That's the baldhead interview of dudes. Is there a baldie under there? Yeah, you usually got a hat on. No, I think I saw a video with him and Cuevo or something shit. Him or an officer or something? Oh, yeah, yeah.

They almost ran up on them. They stood up and looked at him, and he wasn't feeling it. It was awkward. academics were sitting there too yeah that was a classic moment but yeah he was kind of giving me a hard time about like you know interviewing dudes who were on some street shit they pulled up some certain different titles from different interviews i did and they're like how are you asking you know like one of the old ones was like i asked vaughn about duck but to an interviewer blood

you're gonna do that that's what interview is do don't go on the interview or don't answer the question this is simple right you only like if you ask me some shit i can only trick on myself If I said, you know what I'm saying? Right. So I just be like, go to the next question or whatever. There are some questions I could ask you that you would be mad at me for having the fucking audacity to ask it. For sure. Right.

So you shouldn't need to ask that. But most questions is like you can answer it in a way, like even me bringing up people that you might have issue with, I mean, you could spill the whole thing. You could say, well, this happened and he called me and he said this. It depends on who it is and what the situation is. Right. gonna always speak on everything and tell a whole story about it. I'm gonna get me. But that was part of what they said is like,

I was like, listen, a lot of times I'll ask a dude a question and they don't really answer it because they're smart enough to know that they don't wanna, you know, incriminate themselves or say anything crazy. But then their response was like, these dudes aren't smart enough to know what to say. And I'm like, how are you rolling around

with the world, the view of the world that these dudes aren't smart enough to think for themselves? I don't look at the average rapper that I interview, like a fucking idiot because most of them when I ask them about crazy shit in the interview they don't tell me shit or they'll say they'll hint that little shit they'll kind of let you know but they ain't really incriminating and so and that's why in the whole history of rap I say it's really up to what you say right but in the whole history of rap

interviewing almost no interviews have ever been used in court cases whereas lyrics get used all the time because the lyrics are way crazier you never know this is real crazy they'll bring up a motherfucker they'll start got them and taking interviews and incriminate motherfuckers you'll be like damn I wish I'd never said that Sometimes it surprises me that interviews don't get used more in a portrait. That's not talking about it for I do. But you ain't gave me nothing to work with because you're looking out for yourself, right? But that's the problem is some people, they're not looking out for themselves.

They're looking out for the fans. They want to look hard for the fans. So when some shit comes up, they can't hold them. The fans don't even know me for real. They know my music. Right. You like having that separation? I love having that separation.

I give you what I want to give you when I want to give it to you. Right. You feel what I'm saying? gonna pressure me or none of that to give to you know what I am right like that's I am for real that's the thing with me on being a YouTuber and being a rapper's kind of like being a YouTuber where when I started every single thing that was in my life was content I put it out there if I'm kicking in with a girl she's in the video if I hire somebody boom we're talking about hiring them in the video now I'm actually getting to the point where I'm like all right I'm gonna have things in my life and I'm not talk about it I'm gonna keep

it secret to me it's not content yeah yeah you gotta be like that blood you can can't get them everything. You can't, can't do that. Yeah, I mean, as a rapper, for sure. It's a gift and a curse, bro. Yeah, 100%. Um, okay, what's up with the Trenches Baby series that I've been seeing you do on YouTube?

Oh, okay. Explain how this works. It was really like, um, made by, um, this, uh, what can call it? This nigga that ain't Clinton. Okay. He's the one that wrote the movie and shit like that. You know what I'm saying?

My manager. That's my manager friend and shit. So he wrote the movie and we was just trying to make it like something that fit me. Like when I'm from, how I grew up and shit like that, the shit that'd be going on like when I'm from. Right. So he wrote, he wrote it and I'm just the actor in it, the main character in it. You feel what I'm saying?

But he wrote it and we doing like serious. It's like we did like one to four. But it got a lot of good feedback. Right. need to do a whole movie or we either need to continue these series is on YouTube but I don't really want to do YouTube because I want this to be on Netflix to be or something like that you feel because I know they don't know or you try to keep an adult it's it's for the adults okay you know what I know

they going you know what I'm saying like gravitate towards it you know saying that's why I want to be on like all them platforms Netflix to be right all that shit because you see how your kids love cartoons and shit right yeah So you're kind of like, damn, that's kind of a different level of love right there that people are able to get through that. I don't know if I'm ready to turn on Kokomelo and see Lozai Osama stomping through there. Nah, hell, fucking, no. You got to have your own series. No, hell no, you got all type.

It ain't just kids shit on Netflix. Right. It's adult shit. Tube, all that's what the series is for adults. Of course, kids are going to watch it, but it's really for adults. It's shit in that certain kids don't need to see, you, you know? 100%. But how do you feel?

about what you allow your kids to be exposed to like would you let your kids watch it right now they're right now they're young so it's like only thing they picture and they mind is dad that whenever they see me it's just dadda it ain't nothing else you feel me so yeah yeah yeah they'll sit down watch it with my movies I made it my kids gonna see this yeah but having kids how I'm having sex or fucking raw or something goofy like hell no I ain't gonna let my kids see this shit right what's the shit like that cartoon version of you fucking a bitch would be extra.

Nah, they're not watching those shit. I need a warning before that comes on. You funny as hell. You make the kid go to a room. But, all right, having kids, does that change how you think about your career and how important it is for you to be successful and everything?

You think it made you grind harder? Yeah, it makes me grind harder. You know what I'm saying? Because, like, it's a lot of shit that my mama weren't able to do for me when I was young. A lot of shit my daddy didn't even have for me when I was young.

I didn't even have bedroom my whole life. You know what I'm saying? I had a shed bed room. on more. And like all type of shit, I don't want my kids to experience. Nothing I went through. Babies they don't need to be going

to steal no cars. You know what I'm saying? Like, they don't need to be doing nothing, blood. Right. I want them to have them set up the right way, you feel it? Right.

On every level. The opportunities that you missed out on. Yeah, yeah. Because I was young, dumb, in the streets, ain't high shit, blood. You know? Definitely. That can't be the cycle.

Is that ever hard, though, when you're away from the kids for a couple weeks of time or whatever because you're grinding, you're out working yeah i'm always out working i'm always out grinding but you know i still make the time to go see my kids right still talk to him faith time more daily still take them shopping about them shit take them out of town right you know what i still i'm still able to do that i ain't never not able to be no daddy do the music because i think a lot of times as people in the rap world

that it's kind of considered like uncool to talk about your relationship with your kids sometimes where the fuck you're getting this from you don't think that's true hell no i think it's under discussed At times. If you're scared to talk about your kid, your ass need to die. I'm not scared, but okay, let me, what I was referring to is, you know, on the latest deluxe on Dirk's tape, I thought that was really big that he came out and basically acknowledged that he had had like a realization that he hadn't been putting enough time into spend him with his kids and that he like has accomplished everything in the fucking world.

That's real, grown man, shit. Yeah, I was, I was impressed. Yeah, when you come to realize shit like that, that's real grown man shit that you take a responsibility for your fuck-ups and your wrongs and really trying to get on top of your shit. That's grown man shit. I salute that. And a lot of people in rap though, they don't, they're not trying to be open. They're not trying to show you that they aren't perfect.

They want to present that they're perfect at all the time, so to see somebody come out and say, Hey, I fucking have changed the way I think about that. I thought that was important. Yeah. I even said a lot of the similar shit in a couple songs too, you know what I'm saying? Like just talking about how certain shit I didn't do for my kids or how to do. for my kids or I need to do certain shit for my kids and shit like that. Right.

You know? I mean, traveling is crazy because especially when they're as young as ours, like you just come back and they're a totally different person a week or two later. But even me just going to work for eight hours, ten hours. And you're in another line, blood, because my daughter will be calling my name every day all day, right. I'd be gone for like a week or two, then I'd come back. I'd be like, come.

Really? Yeah, it's like, yeah, I'll be catching that little whiff sometimes. Oh, I felt like that like a little tiny bit. I'm back around for that period of time. It's like, oh, dad, that, that. And I'm gone. It's like, oh, this motherfucker study leaves it. It takes a little bit to warm up, though.

It takes them a little bit to warm up to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On my own and take a little bit for them to warm up to me. Yeah, that's a weird feeling. Like, they got to re-know me again. Yeah. A hundred percent. Okay, so, like, what do you feel like is the shit that you really want to accomplish

this year in terms of, like, taking your shit to the next level? because it feels like you're in such a good space. I'm not going to lie, blood. I want to go number one. You feel me? I want to make sure I'm in a good space with my label. You know what I'm saying? Makes sure they eat, make sure I'm eating.

Make sure my manager, my team, my family eat. You know what I'm saying? Makes sure just everybody in a good space because when everybody ain't in a good space that I love that I care about, then it knocked me off track. I can't really focus and do what I need to do

because I don't worry about too much other shit on my mind. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just really trying to stay focused on a straight line, you know what I'm saying? So I got to make so all this, took and care of so I can just do it straight like this, you know? Right. From the kids to the family, the business, to everything.

You're in a relationship? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, for sure. And it's your child's mother? It's my child mama, yeah. Okay. So how long you've been with it?

Like four years. Oh, okay. Do you feel like that's a big factor in terms of you being able to keep this, like, strong state of mind? Huh? Like, in terms of just being able to keep a consistent state of mind, you feel like having a girl consistently helps you, like, to stay in the right place mentally? I ain't gonna lie, for sure, my girl definitely be helping me, like, standing right.

Like, see, like, she's not afraid to say you wrong or don't do that, or that ain't right. Because she knew me long enough. Yeah, she knew me long enough. Like, we got that bond and relationship. Like, she's gonna always pick me up and let me know what I'm slacking while wrong, because I'm gonna look right.

She ain't gonna sugarcoat, no, she's gonna always keep it 100 to the teeth. And sometimes I feel like my girl do a little too much of that. Because she knows she can criticize me, so she just like almost exclusions. exclusively criticized me. And sometimes I'm like, bitch, I need some compliments. Ah!

I'm doing a great job. I need a little bit more focus on the positive. Hey, I'm about doing it. You ever been there? Hell yeah. Like, bitch, you know what the fuck going on, man. Just because you're one of the- Pact me on my fucking back when I walk in this bitch.

Give me a-up. Really, yeah. A foot rub. I just texted her that a couple days ago. Right. You steady going out of this motherfuck up and come on, give me a massage, man. Because they want to be treated like queens,

but we don't really get to get treated like kings that often, right? Yeah Guys take notes this is officially become a red pill podcast. We got to talk about men's rights What do these girls got fucked up about men in general? Like what's what's fucked up about these girls? They all the fucking money. They think men supposed to just take care of them and they pose this shit on their head I don't know where the fuck that came from right? Bish I work you work we bring the money to the table I respect that, yeah like I ain't know just I'm working and you're sitting on your ass doing nothing

Right, you know what's saying? Of course some days sometimes it gets like like that you know what I'm gonna go out and handle my business and make sure it's straight you know what I'm saying but like for the most part I don't want no business that's sitting around not doing nothing right ain't got nothing going on for herself what about being a mom though that's a pretty big job being a mom for show like you know saying it's it's that I being a mom from when like the baby born all the way up into the daycare shit right like I feel like you're supposed to be on that you could be a mom into that time but then when a daycare time come you put on

daycare or put him in daycare and then you go hand to your business how to yoke we take turns picking them up pick them up together however like you know what we still got to work and keep that shit coming in because you never know what my lifestyle be like i can go i can go here i might need you you know what i'm saying if you can't come for me then what the fuck is this about right you know what we both got to hire that but i've seen this conversation on some podcasts that's basically like once a guy gets rich once a guy really gets to the point where he don't need you know like a lot a guy's in a relationship with a girl just because they got a splint the rent, you know? But once a guy gets rich, does he want a girl who's a businesswoman who's really like

motivated, an entrepreneur, who's kind of like you, or do you want someone who's just hot and is going to sit around and do jack shit? I'm going for the entrepreneur. I want a girl with some energy. Look, I'm not going to lie, blood. I can't really speak about that because I'm not financially at that place where I can just be like, all right, baby, you ain't got to work, I got you, your life. You know what I'm saying?

So I can't really speak on that, but like, I need a girl that work. I need a girl that got energy. I need a girl that like to have fun. I need a girl that knows how to have sex. You know what I need all that? So that's a big factor? You couldn't marry a girl before you had sex with her? Hell fucking no, boy.

That's what you're supposed to do, right? Hell no, I'm not doing that. Bro, y'all can go by the books if y'all wants. I was watching some show. I see some religious person talk about that the other day. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? How do that even feel, blood? You got to go home to a bitch

every night you ain't hit, and you're going out in the streets and these bitches throwing that pussy at you. Couldn't be me. Well, I'm cracking. Everything's moving, boy. Going right back to the crib like ain't nothing happened. Give me the hell out of here. Bro, and then you're going to start seeing me get distant.

I ain't going to come to the crib no more. Right. You ain't giving me no pussy. It's over with. Because there's been girls where I was kicking in with them going a date or two. I thought they were the most beautiful fucking girl I ever seen in my life.

And then I smashed. And I was like, oh, never mind. Because that you know sometimes you just don't work let's let's not even blame it on them but sometimes the chemistry ain't that great sexually you know for show for so yeah I had those times sometimes they might look good in the shit might just be a cavern in there You funny as hell I need some grip what folks don't you do porn or something shit yeah you slow as hell blood no because I know what I'm talking about I'm a pussy master because I seen it up close and personal 100,000 times so I'm a pussy master too do I need to go do porn you may be But there's no public record of it It's a public record man. Yeah, but you just ain't released it yet

That's right maybe the music shit don't work then you could oh you had leak sex tape Man you got me fuck oh I got a cop that you funny. It's yeah Drop the comment down below. We need to see the little Zay tape All right so yeah man I'm proud of you just doing good the music is got is dope. It was dope getting to listen to a lot of the music building up Trans Baby 3? Yeah. Name a song. You want to pull up album music right now.

I'm going to find it. No, I went to the tip right now. No, I listen to it in the car. I don't know if I can name a song. 63rd to 64th. Was that the date before that? 61st to 64. There you go.

But that's a song. I'm not officially caught up on the Chicago geography. Go listen to Trans baby 3, bro. Go listen to Trans baby 3, bro. I'm going to spin it on the, we're going to play it out here while we take the photos. Yeah, for sure, listen to that shit. That's the hardest thing.

I was too caught up listening. I'm still alive. I'm still alive. We're going to get you on that remix. I ain't hopping on that shit, boy. Damn. All right. Lizzie Osama.

I appreciate you, man. Y'all make sure y'all go get that Trench Baby 3, y'all go watch Trench Baby the series. You know what I'm saying? All that shit dope, man. I appreciate y'all. Appreciate my nigga Adam, man. Shout out No Jumper.

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