No Jumper - Low The Great on Falling Out with RonRon & HitMob, Producing for Schoolboy Q & More
Episode Date: August 28, 2022Low The Great is going up late! He talks about his come-up, his relationships in the business, RonRon, ----- 00:00 Intro 3:06 - RonRon gave him his first opportunity, Ralfy opening the door for other...s to f*ck with him 4:58 - Not being included in certain sessions, not being treated like a stepchild 6:42 - Coming with hits with AzChike, Shoreline & Blueface, Boosie, Blue Bucks, popping his sh*t 9:04 - Getting paid for all his music, registering all the songs with BMI 11:17 - Growing up in the 50s, going back and forth to the 40s, falling in love with making beats 13:59 - No one taking him seriously before Ralfy 24:09 - Introducing isThattrey and CaliRant, meeting them 27:13 - Working with DJ Mustard, him always showing love 30:09 - CaliRant on meeting Low, getting the hookah lounge he was at to play her song 4 times in one night 34:43 - Low on knowing Ashbash before she started rapping, knowing when to leave 36:11 - Schoolboy Q placements, having bangers with him, having one of his songs end up on OVO radio 39:37 - Always envisioning himself as P.Diddy, all the records he’s done 44:35 - Being involved behind the scenes with Kalan, making “Hello”, AzChike throwing a function in the studio 55:52 - Learning the music business is cut throat, having an entertainment lawyer 1:00:25 - 1TakeJay motivating them, changing Low’s life 1:03:12 - The state of LA hip hop, Detroit, Memphis coming up, getting artists on “Low The Great” type beats 1:07:30 - People remaking his beats, giving a rapper 30 days to respond about beats 1:09:17 - Seeing $50,000 hit his account, buying his dream car 1:12:03 - Shoutouts, follow on Instagram ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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What's up y'all, man.
I'm back here.
It's T-Rill, man.
I'm here with my boy, load of great, man.
Loader grade, load of great, low to great, low to great, man.
Yes, sir.
Producer.
Hot as one out.
Entrepreneur.
Young business, man.
Actor?
In the future.
In a future.
In a future, actor.
Rapper?
In the future.
I'm trying to put all the tags on you right now, nigga.
Because you tight.
You know what I'm saying?
I fuck with you.
Shit.
Not a rap.
But you never know what the future holds, you know.
But young legend, though, I like what you doing, man.
You come from where I come from, straight out the 50s.
You know what I'm saying?
But before we start this shit, you know, you do have a lot of family member everywhere.
And then right now, I really want you to claim where are you from right now because you're from the 50s.
You will meet today.
I want you to say, nigga, I'm from the 50s, nigga.
I'm here with my boy T.
T.rell.
This is what we doing.
I'm from the 50
I really grew up over there
with my boy T.Rail.
Yes.
Because you know you got every
you know what I'm saying
you over here, you over here
you know what I'm saying
I like that you'd be playing the neutral
you do your thing
he didn't get into the whole little
gang banging thing
and I like that about you
you doing your music thing
and you're supposed to be doing that shit
you feel me
I commend you
100% doing that shit
and I wished
everybody that I've knew
you know what I'm saying
that was younger.
Even my siblings and my little brother didn't do that shit.
You feel me?
Because not doing that shit kind of take you farther.
Not kind of, but it does because you get into the politics and all of the bullshit.
But I commend you.
But still, you come to the 50s, you know, where home is.
You know, because, you know, it's better than everywhere else, though, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The 50s, right?
The 50s is way sicker than everybody else, right?
Yeah, man.
Yeah, you know, really.
But I'm with you, though, you feel me?
I want to get right into the bullshit.
Fuck all the whole other shit.
I'm getting right into the shit.
You know what I'm saying?
You used to be from a hit mob.
I need to know about this fucking beef.
Ron, Ron, Jug.
I need to know about this shit because you be sugarcoting this shit.
And I need to elaborate on this shit because it ain't all what it seems, brother.
All right.
Well, basically it's no beef.
I follow all the hit mob members, so it can't be beef.
But I was a part of hipmob, but I left, you know,
because I felt like it was just weird, a lot of weird shit going on.
So, like I said, I told them I was going to leave.
They let me leave.
They didn't know I was going to be a nigger.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So, yeah, I just left and did my thing.
But why did you leave?
What made you feel like, you know what?
I'm going to get up and pack my shit up, you know what I'm saying?
What was the, what was the energy of it?
Why did you go out there and do that?
Because I know sometimes niggas be, you know, acting weird and doing weird shit behind the scenes.
And it had to be that because you were a cool-ass young nigga.
All right.
So to sum it up, when I joined, like, I feel like Run Run Run Gave gave me my first opportunity.
Like when I got, I remember, like, I was making beats.
I was trash.
Like, it was just bad, but I was practicing.
So, like, 2015, he hit me up.
You like, hey, you want to join?
Hit him up.
I'm like, no.
I told him no at first because I didn't have no computer.
like so I use my grandma computer which is Vicki which if you listen to my tape Vicki one Vicki
two that's me in front of her house in the 50s taking that picture yeah so check those tapes
out R-R-P so then he was like hey um join him I was like no that Christmas I got a computer
so I got the computer I hit them back up it was off that song proper instructions
Because nobody wasn't really fucking with me, but when Ralphie, shout out Ralphie to plug.
When you made that song, that made way for the Frosty, the Draco, just start really tapping in with me.
All mighty suspect, everybody started fucking with me.
So I joined.
They gave me their kids.
They treated me, they treated me like family.
They gave me the kids.
They put F on my computer.
They did the thing.
So keep going further.
Years go by.
shirtline popping, everything going cool.
So boom, I'm noticing like, hey,
I'm looking at nigger's stories.
They go into sessions.
Oh, why load and go?
Then niggas going to parties.
Oh, load and no.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm like, all right, I got to leave.
But I didn't leave yet.
I gave niggas benefit of the doubt.
I was just trying to figure it out,
giving niggas passes, you know?
So then I just got.
Do you give them credit, though,
for, you know what I'm saying?
making your career like you know what I'm saying putting you on uh do I give them
credit I say they yeah I'll get them credit I well yeah I give run run credit I would
you're giving credit for putting you on putting you on the map and shit so when start yeah
from the start from the start yeah so when shit started going south is they was they was doing
their own thing like Ron Ron and Jugg and shit and then shit started getting kind of weird
because you wasn't getting invited to those certain little sessions.
Yeah, it was just certain shit that I wasn't really fucking with.
And then, like I said, they let me, I told them, they knew I was frustrated.
I told them, we had a group chat.
I'm like, hey, I'm trying to leave, you know what I'm saying?
And then I left.
And they let me leave, you know what I'm saying?
So it wasn't like it was beef or nothing.
They just said, oh, you want to go?
Go.
And then, like I said, I was still pulling up today's studio,
but I wasn't really going into their studio no more.
I was going to the studio next door,
Big Boo, shout-all Big Boo, Studio.
And then I was just
working out of there because I was like on some,
I'm not fucking with them, niggas.
Do you think they feel like at any time,
like, man, this little nigga feel untitled.
I mean, entitled.
You know what I'm saying?
We ain't got to invite this little nigga nowhere.
Man, fuck it, man.
Fuck this little nigga.
He can go and do what he want to do.
Shit, to be honest, I don't know.
Yeah.
But my thing was,
I'm not the type of person to, like,
if I know I'm not feeling like shit not going, I'm going to address it,
and I'm not about to be getting treated like no stepchild.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I mean, because if niggas felt like that and then they just let you go,
what was the whole little thing on Twitter and doing all of that shit?
Like, what was the-
I just felt about?
Basically, like, I feel like the nigger every year.
Like, you got to think I'm hit with Chike this year,
hit with Jay this year
hit with Shirline and Blueface this year
hit with Boosie hit with Blue Bucks
Klan this year I'm popping my shit
Yeah
Who hotter than me
Yeah
Niggas feel like
That's my sauce
Or do you feel like nigga
I don't care if you got you that
I don't care
I'm getting
I'm doing it up with your sauce
You know what I'm saying
Yeah
Yeah you gotta talk your shit
I mean you was
Dude, you are still doing it up, you feel
me? Like, ain't nobody in Los Angeles
don't have a motherfucking beat by you,
feel me? And beats by you,
niggas, nigga guaranteed a
banger. You feel me? Like,
so I probably feel some way, too.
Like, if my business weren't right,
and now, you know, a little nigga left me, and then not a little
nigga blowing, like, damn,
any on his own, you feel?
me, it's like, fuck. And I know
motherfuckers want to know about that shit, because I know
motherfuckers feel salty for sure.
Yeah. I know niggas feel salty about
that shit.
Hell yeah.
Do that shit bother you?
No, because like I said, I never had to deal with no type of situation where
niggas fell salty.
Like I said, the little shit, the back and forth was just one little time.
And then after that, it was over.
Yeah.
You think you get more money than there?
Facts.
Like, at this point, you really get more money than that.
That's wild.
That's tight.
Yeah.
That's a tight thing, man.
And you started your own shit.
Yeah.
I can see by the chain.
you should hold it up on the screen.
You should hold it up for the screen
because you really got to talk your shit.
I really like that, man.
Coming from the bitch is doing your own thing,
your own man,
because where we come from,
that's what we do.
Like, we run our own fucking program.
Like, we, like, really our own little people
and shit like that, our own little village.
You feel, me?
And coming from, you come from,
like, I'm proud of you, man, doing that shit, man.
Hell yeah, man, I appreciate it.
I'm proud of you doing that shit.
So I want to talk about, like,
when you was doing the shit,
shit when you started making those beats
and the shoreline beats and all of that shit
like in the beginning like
were you just giving them shits off of free
or like did you have your shit planned out
or like you know what was you doing
are you still getting paid from that shit or what
yeah I am getting paid for all my music
so early on I knew how to
use BMI
and then so I will register
all the songs so as a producer
just advice like if you
if somebody drop a song,
it don't matter if they independent,
signed anything,
go to BMI and register yourself.
And then after that,
you know,
try to look into like an entertainment lawyer.
You know what I'm saying?
And then from there,
you can come to them like,
hey, look, I made this song
with such and such.
Can you reach out to them
so I can get paid?
Did you Google all this shit
in the beginning?
Yeah, man.
It was like I had to, I was watching all type of podcast, interviews, Google all night.
Yeah, I like that.
Smart young, man, getting up out there and Googling that shit and putting that shit to work.
Like, because some niggas just go out there and just be like, nigger, yeah, make the
big, give it for free, yeah, lease it out.
I don't know about that shit, but, you know, they didn't get no bread.
I gave beats out for free.
Yeah.
Don't get it fucked up.
I have to, you know, make my way, you know.
But like I said, what you?
can do is say you give a beat off for free and you registered a song after a couple cycles bMI
gonna pay you because most rappers i ain't gonna lie don't they don't even register their songs through bMI
so they paying the niggins yeah oh so oh so you scanless no i'm doing my job so you registering
the motherfucking song and them niggas don't even know i'm doing my job oh okay yeah
i'm registering my portion of the song 50 percent yeah i like so when they registered they're gonna claim what they
Oh, they 50%.
So you could have,
you went and could have went on there and claimed 100%.
I could have went on there and claimed the 100% is my son.
But no, I never did that.
Yeah, you're a good nigga for that.
I mean, you know, before we get all the way into detail,
you know, we'll touch back one.
I just want to get right into the shit, you know,
but for the no jumper fans, you know,
a lot of no jumper fans don't know you.
So, you know, let's introduce them, you know,
load of great from the beginning.
All right.
So, a load of grade, you know, he was born.
I was born, went straight to the 50s.
I went to 52nd Elementary.
And then my mama used to live in the 50s,
but then I guess she split it with my dad.
She moved straight to the 40s.
So from there.
Did you go over there?
Yeah.
I was back and forth.
Are you living over there?
Yeah, I had to go with my mom.
Oh, damn.
So boom.
From there, I.
I went to Normandy Avenue Elementary,
because I grew up all around LA, that's what I'm saying.
A lot of people knew me, they just didn't know I made beats.
So, but I didn't make beats until after high school.
So fast forward, I'm growing up over there,
but I'm back and forth, like every weekend.
And then from there, we had a spot, yeah,
small middle school, we moved to the east side,
then she moved back.
back to the 40s and then I went to Crenshaw.
But in middle school, I went to Los Angeles Academy middle school.
So that's what I'm saying.
All the Latinos like fuck with me.
It was like literally like say it was a thousand students.
It was like 20 blacks.
So I was the only black in the class for three years.
So that's what I'm saying.
I grew up on the east side.
Like my home school was supposed to be Jefferson.
But when my mom moved back in that area,
I went to Crenshaw.
And then I went to Crenshaw all four years.
And then after, that's what I'm saying, people know me from Crenshaw.
So from there, high school over.
I'm like, I don't want to go to school.
So I end up getting a job.
I got a job working.
I got a car.
And then my boy, butter, he was making beats in the 50s.
And then I went to his house and then he showed me.
And then I fell in love with it.
And where is he at right now?
He's right there.
Yes, sir.
That's tight, man.
That's the same brother, you know what I'm saying, that school boy Q took from you as a cameraman.
Oh, yeah, he's scandalous.
Yeah, he's scandalous.
So he taught you how to make Beach you fell in love with it there.
Yeah.
So then I just kept going like year after year, like,
I didn't really care about placements.
I just wanted the homies to rap on my shit.
Yeah.
Like in the area.
So from there, I'm coming up.
Like I said, my shit ain't really that good,
but I really think my shit good.
Can't nobody tell me nothing.
I'm not taking no advice.
I'm not mixing the beats.
I'm not doing nothing nobody say.
Like, I was always like that.
So fast forward, like I said,
nobody wasn't really fucking with it.
to Ralphie. That's what I'm saying. I fuck with Ralphie to plug.
Was this after like high school? You got out of high school? Yeah, I got out of high school.
So that's what I'm telling. I'm telling me. Yeah, I'm telling niggas like, I make beats after high
school. They like, okay, we don't give a fuck. Who was the first thing you gave a beat to and you
was like, oh, this shit crazy? Uh, shit, my brothers. Like, we was rapping on the computer.
Yeah. Like, we was just trying to figure it out. What equipment you all was using? The computer.
we were speaking into the computer into the computer yeah facts oh you a cold nigga that's how did you
started all you called so then like i said i'm making beats making beats making beats and then
the proper instructions ralphi the plug song dropped and that's when niggas was taking me serious
that's what made ron ron rind me up so how did you get in touch with uh ralphi to do that you just dm
I went to school with young bull and good finesse.
I went to Crenshaw.
They was at Crenshaw.
And I guess the Stink Team, they were sprinkled everywhere.
Like, I knew catchy and shit from, like, jerking days.
And then young Sam, he come from the 50s, too.
Shout out young Sam.
Like, the jerking era.
Like, everybody, like I said, jerking era, everybody knew everybody.
We was all in the parties jerking and all the little shit.
How he was jerking?
everybody.
Dope in everybody
in this shit
you were jerking to her.
90% of niggas
was jerking back to me.
That nigga said
Hey, 90% of niggas
were jerking.
I was jerking.
He was getting to crack it.
Skinny jeans and all.
Yeah, that's right.
So Ralphie hit you up,
you know what I'm saying?
You're jerking.
You know what I'm saying?
You're like, fuck it.
No, no, no.
It didn't.
I hit him up.
And I was just telling him I make beats.
Yeah.
But he wasn't fucking with him.
Like he wasn't fucking on him at first
And then he stumbled on one that he actually liked
Which was the proper instructions
Then we went to make some other shit
So that's what I'm saying
And then after that that's what made other
Niggas like Frosty
My next shit was with Frosty
And then
You know
Yo
What's going on?
Callie Rand you guys
Hi
Callie Rand
Cali Rent
Can you guys
Can't bein
Can't
Cali Rennie.
Her motherfucking ass got a standing ovation
and her ass is late.
Hold on.
No, uh-uh,
Lee.
Are you 20, 30 minutes late?
It was the traffic and
you ain't taking this shit serious, huh?
No, I'm taking this shit very serious.
I was rushing, argue with motherfuckers on all you.
Who would you argue with?
It's people.
Are we going to get on you in the minute,
we're going to, we owe me my boy's story.
Yeah.
But yeah, yeah, Callie Rant, my artist,
is that trait?
my producer on crazy and you already know we're about to take shit over but um yeah that's what made way
for the draco's route because they believe me now i knew everybody already we all grew together
you know i'm saying i remember frosty uh pulling up to my house randomly like because my my cousin's
from jungles you know so uh and he used to be around with the bloods and i'm like hey yeah
i make these da-da-da-da-da-da you know what i'm saying so yeah uh long-lived bunch
And that's how, like I said, Babystone Gorillas fuck with me because that was their homie.
So that's what I'm saying.
My cousins was bloods.
My mama's people was from neighborhood.
My daddy people was from Hoover.
Yeah.
Troubles.
So that's what I'm saying.
It was like, yeah, I make music.
Yeah.
I'm like, you know, so it was just like, I'm not about to be.
Like, it's weird.
So Ralph, he got a hold of you.
Then, you know what I'm saying?
That shit went crazy.
Ron Ron and them hitting you.
You ain't got no fucking computer.
You feel me?
You ain't doing that shit.
You finally get a hold of the computer.
You feel me?
You hit Ron,
rounding them up and then what happens?
Yeah, I joined Hit Mom.
And then you joined Hit Mom.
Yes, sir.
Then Nickest start acting funny.
To me, yes.
How long did it take to niggots start acting funny?
It's like a three-strike rule.
Like, one, two, three.
Hey, man, I don't want to be a part of the group, no mom.
Damn.
You feel me?
I like that.
You know.
And it was just that easy because you weren't in no contract.
They didn't try to put you in nothing or nothing like that or like hold you to anything.
No.
But, you know, with hit my life, like, what was some of the, you know, some of the greatest experiences that you had?
It was cool.
Like, we was like really, like, they were beginning.
They joined, like, they started in 2015.
I didn't join the year later.
But it was like we was all in that hot-ass, like, studio just making beats all together.
Like, you feel me?
Niggas really didn't have no money.
like that we was all broke we're trying to oh get money to get the little five dollar piece of
make beats all day though yeah so you know uh it was cool like i fuck with them it was cool it was
just like like i said like i wanted to do my own thing so it's no hard feelings i fuck with you
i fuck with them like far as like us working like i feel like it got to be more a business that's
what i'm on like if you got some shit going over there that you can help me out with and i got some
shit over here, you feel
me we can figure something out, but just to make
beats for fun, no, it's over.
I mean, because, I mean, if you
in there and y'all scrounging up
for money and doing that shit, you know,
where we come from, we are very loyal
to our, you know what I'm saying, our homies,
our people and shit like that. So, you know,
when you do fall out and do
some bullshit, like we do take it
very personal. I'm not
even going to lie, because I'll take that shit very
personal, too. If you do any little
fucking thing, I don't even got no three-strike rule.
Yeah, I feel like.
If you're fucking up, it's over.
Yeah, I feel you.
I mean, well, niggas, I barely know, nigga.
Ain't no motherfucking chance, nigga.
It's just like, nigger, you're a weird old,
nigga, I'm out of here, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I ain't doing that shit, but I mean, it was some good that came out of that shit for you.
Yeah, hell yeah, man.
I appreciate, you feel me, them taking me in.
Because like I said, I didn't really, I was just making beats.
I didn't have nothing.
Like, it was just like, I didn't even know how to put FL on my shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I know kids, no nothing.
They gave me all of that.
So that's what I'm saying.
I can't beef with the niggas that helped me.
But like I said, I can distance myself.
Yes, sir.
Do my own thing.
How do mom and dad feel about what you was doing as far as the career path?
I feel my mama didn't care what I was doing.
She was just like, hey, you know, you're grown.
What are you going to do?
And my mama support me with everything.
I love my mom in the death.
She was just like, hey, what you want to do?
All right, go do it.
But it was like, I remember because I end up going to college.
So I went to West LA
I went for business and fire science
I was like you know what I'm gonna be a fireman
I went to the academy
I went to the academy and everything
That's cute
I'm telling that that's cute
No that's a good career
Firefires is good niggas
He's good man
I'm running up saving somebody
That thing tiny is tiny as fucking
You can't save me for no fire
Imagine a low with some boot to him
That big ass thing
I'm really with this year
Imagine this thing running up trying to
save you from a fire.
You go like, man, come on, nigga.
We've been to die,
nigga.
Hey, I got pictures in the academy, man.
You know what's crazy?
You know what I got out of high school?
I wanted to be a fighter fighter, too,
I wanted to be a force.
You fight and fire.
I'm like, I'm going to stay here.
I'm going to do this shit.
You feel me?
Like, that's crazy that you said
because I wanted to do that shit too, but
it didn't work out.
I dropped out.
And I was 12 units away.
You was 12 units away?
From getting my AA.
And you said, I'm going to make some beats.
No, look, my car broke down and I'm not catching the bus.
The 108 was crazy.
That 108 is dangerous.
It's crazy.
You get banged on, punched on, bum stinking.
It was just like, no, I can't catch the bus.
I just had a car too long.
Like, I can't do it.
And then, like, Uber and lifting shit wasn't really in like that yet.
You ever got robbed out there on Sloss and Figg?
No, never got robbed on Sloss and Figg.
No, nobody never fucked with you.
You just was witnessing niggas getting robbed and beat up and shit on the bus.
Because that shit is dangerous as fuck.
I remember coming home from Crenshaw catching a 108, and it's like,
I don't know how they determine who they're going to beat up and fuck up and rob,
but I would literally just be in the back with my backpack on.
I see a nigga get pressed and beat up.
And I'm like, damn, I can't do this.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't want to be on the bus.
So I promise you, I didn't, I walked.
So you was nervous as fuck.
So niggas is passing you.
and going to the back of the bus doing bullshit.
Yeah, I feel like they'll know who to get on.
Like, it'd be niggas with tattoos, all type of shit.
Like me, I'm innocent.
I was playing football at Crenshaw.
So I had a little football pad, little shit.
So they're like, oh, yeah, backpack on.
They're not worried about me.
They worry about the nigger sagging with the red shoes on.
You know what I'm saying?
They're not worried about the nigga with the football.
So you're like, I'm out the motherfucker.
fucking way yeah but it was still weird because you never know they've been like you know what
let's fuck up the little football nigga right quick you know what put on your helmet right
that's why I was like you know what I'm gonna just walk home yeah so you know I would have
plotted on him I wouldn't walk I ain't walking home I got on that bus I'm getting on this
motherfucking bus I sit in the front then fucking nigga shit walk past me you know you see
niggas get over the back you feel me but introduce you know your people here man
who you got here introduce them let them know what's the deal man is that tray uh my producer
hard as fuck you hear him all most of my shit uh um callie rand the new way for sure period the new
addition you know to the family the team she uh rapping and shit uh she hard as fuck y'all gonna
see what's up with her she just dropped uh we didn't know it was gonna go that her yeah two days ago
we had like what 10 000
11. 11 views in like two days.
Crazy.
So it's like the future.
And just stay tuned.
We've been shooting videos every week.
You feel me?
We've been in a studio going crazy.
And shout out Gina.
That's what I was waving at earlier.
Shout out.
Yeah.
Every interview, man.
I'm like, Gina is tapped in a Los Angeles, California, man.
Yeah, we got a shout out Gina.
We got a shout out Gina, man.
So, you know, where'd you meet my boy right here, man?
You know, starting, you know, producer.
Yeah, I met him at a M.BJ session.
Yeah, shout out A&BJ.
I met him.
He was telling me he made beats.
I wasn't like, like, when a nigga tell you, yeah, when you tell the niggas like,
hey, yeah, I make beats, it's like, all right, cool.
Like, I don't care like that.
You know what I'm saying?
I fuck with you, though.
I don't never get an energy, like, move.
I get an energy like, all right, cool.
You can feel me?
So fast forward, I keep seeing them at the AMBJ.
sessions. So I still wasn't fucking with him and then he made no dead up.
But that's real. But that's how it is.
So you walking past my nigga with the computer just like, I was chopping it up.
He would make his beats. I was soaking up games. You feel me? I wasn't on no, I wasn't on
no, oh, no, no, no, no, no, bro. Yeah, it was cool. You feel me? So you knew them already.
No, it's funny. The story funny. Yeah. If I go on my iCloud, Google, when I was in
in the ninth grade, I hit up bro for some drum kits.
six times he didn't record.
Wow.
So I told you Scalindley.
No, he really didn't see it.
A lot of producers that's coming up got that same story.
Yeah.
Like, you know, so, um.
It's just crazy how it went back around.
Yeah, so boom, I keep seeing them and then go get a KB dropped this song called Float.
And then I hit him, that's when I hit him up, like, hey, what's the deal?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you hard.
The first beat we made together was that pull it beat.
Pull it beat.
Yeah, with G.
Perico.
But, so I'm like,
hey, I'm trying to sign you.
Like, what can I do?
Like, how can we figure this out?
You know what I'm saying?
So, you was like,
yeah, I'm fucking with it.
Figure it out.
I hit up my entertainment lawyer.
I got some paperwork going.
You feel me?
And then I sign my young nigga.
And now we're going crazy.
Like I said, I'm making a way for him to get paid.
You feel me, eight?
18, like 18 with a foreign outside.
You know what I'm saying?
Working on me.
Yeah.
I mean, do you feel like, you know, working with mustard, do you feel like muster should have
did that for you, you know, been on the same team as him, you know what I'm saying, and put you in plays
like that?
I feel like I worked with mustard.
I feel like mustard did what all he could do.
I feel like it was more like me, just wanting to just be me.
So that's what I'm saying.
Shout out mustard, man.
He do stuff that like.
I mean, because when he called you, what did he actually want you?
to come do make beats work with him makes make beats and work with him yeah did he actually you know
like man come sign with me he never asked you he was thinking about it
but he was thinking about it too long and you said fuck it no like like i like i think i can hit
i feel like i really feel like must have me to the point where yeah hey muster i'm trying to sign
to you he'll be he'll probably sign me yeah but like i said that's not what i'm on and like i say
who knows what the future holds.
And like I said,
Musta really fuck with me.
I can call Muster right now.
You know what I'm saying?
He never, like, I'll be DM in him.
He replied.
And it'd be quick.
You don't be waiting a day.
He, five minutes.
I'll see the muster notification.
Call them right now then.
No, don't boo.
Hey, I was about to do it.
Shout off mustard, man.
That's the ghost.
No, shout out of mustard.
I'm just fucking around, though.
That's my thing.
Yeah, yeah.
I just fucking around.
Mustard declines, lo.
Yeah, yeah.
If you were to call you, the decline, I'm like, ah.
Damn, fuck it all.
But, no, he's a good nigga, though.
You feel me?
Like, he do bring people through.
Yeah, he's really in tune.
And then so, hell yeah.
I like that.
You think, you know, you see yourself as his peer,
rather than, you know, working for him or under him.
You feel like, you know, I think I can reach this point to where you at.
It's, like, obtainable, like, seeing must.
and like these other people from, you know, from the West Coast to come from where we come.
And they're still young, you know what I'm saying?
Still from the ghetto and still, you know, in tune with everything.
We, we in tune with him.
So to see him is very, like, you know, surreal.
Like, damn, I really can reach these heights, you know, fucking with him.
And I've seen him too from the very beginning.
And still, it's still inspiring to me, too.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
So I get it, you know.
And you being here with artists and then, you know, fellow producer, that's sick.
You feel me?
I mean, you have to throw the shade.
Okay.
But yeah.
They can't see it, but it's bright in here.
Yeah.
I mean, no, these young niggas trying to be like me, man.
These niggins try to put the shade zone on them.
And I'm looking good.
Cuck going crazy.
Shout out of my barber, you know what I'm saying?
Rich L.A. Cuts.
You know what I'm saying?
Now what's going on with you, young lady?
Because you ladies a motherfucker.
That is not cool.
That's not cool.
That's not cool.
What you're doing?
It was traffic.
I was depending on motherfuckers, but see, that won't ever happen again.
Who would you depending on?
Let's shot them out right now.
No, we're not going to do that.
They don't deserve that.
Yeah, don't do it.
That's crazy.
It was just a little bit misunderstanding, but I made it.
I'm here.
You feel me?
And I'm in effect.
I can't wait to continue working.
I'm just really surprised, like, all the love I'm going.
getting like I fuck with that the most because like I ain't it's all organic well tell the people you know
how you know you know you know you know you know you know you know you know you're
you know I met Lowe through one of my home girls um Tammy Tammy yeah because Tammy and
Lowe I mean Tammy's big sister and Lowe are like best friends yeah shout out Darnisha my best
here he is shout out to Tammy and her Darnisha I know her
everybody know Darnisha she lived in the 40s too did she live in the 40s too did she live in the
No.
Oh, okay, okay.
So they was telling him, like, you know, she can rap, she can rap, but this time it's
like I had no music out.
I had nothing out just the fact that I could, you know, rap spit.
So I just started going to all events low as at.
Like I'm like, shit, he goes to see my face, period.
So start going to all events, getting closer with him, finally put out one of my songs called Beyond Me.
Like I did everything by myself, the cover art, everything.
And he noticed that.
So I think beyond me really made him fuck with it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
She was invited me.
Like she played the song.
I remember we went to the hook of lounge, right?
And when the song came out, she played, she, I don't know how she did it, but she got the hookah
to play it over and over and over again.
And it was a day that came out.
Yeah, I seen how she was really fucking with her song.
Nobody know nothing, nothing.
They like, play it again.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
She like, play it again.
Yeah.
So they getting irritated.
She don't give a fuck, you know what I'm saying?
So from there, like I said, you invited me to the video shoot.
I went.
I literally stayed there for a little bit, two seconds.
Lowe would not be nowhere.
Hey, yeah.
Like, he's going to be in now, but it's just as long as he showed his face.
And that was like real love.
I'm like, damn, like you came, you didn't even have to come.
That was real love.
Like, one thing about love, like he real genuine, especially with me and Trey.
Like, it's a family.
It's not even like music, bro.
I'm sick, bro.
At my door is some orange.
juice like bro you better like it's like that bro bringing you orange juice not literally just in the
middle we we can't we cash after them to get the orange juice we're on door dats you ain't at the
orange juice but it's just so what was that moment you felt like you know what I need to sign her
this is it like I said when she got them to keep playing that shit at the hookah lounge and I seen how
in tune she was with her own self like it reminded me and me like I don't care if they don't like
the shit. I'm gonna play it again.
You know what? It's out. So yeah. So that's why I was just like, you know what? I'm gonna fuck
with it. Might as well. And then like-
And it was a blessing, really. Yeah. And then I was like, damn, like, she really hard
when I got to really just listen to her. Because I'm going off one song. Like, I didn't
even want to hear nothing else. I signed through off one song. Like, and then, like I said,
we, uh, been working, uh, her shit hard. Yeah, crazy. I like that. Different, too.
Like, I like that. Yeah, I really fuck with my own sound too.
Like, it's not like everybody else in LA.
It's not like no regular female rap.
Why do you feel like that, though?
Why do I feel like that?
Yeah, why you feel like that?
Because I've studied even before, like, I feel like studying music as an artist is like the best thing.
Especially if you want to like being your own wave of writing your music, really writing your music, really knowing how to flow in.
So you feel like ain't no bitch fucking with you right now in Los Angeles?
Just like that.
Straight like that.
So they ain't no bitch fucking with you.
I fuck with everybody that rap.
Everybody got their own sound, you feel me.
Ain't nobody, I write my own shit.
I really make sure my metaphor is on point.
You go understanding.
If you don't understand it.
You'll probably go have to look up.
Because it's clear, as direct, it's Callie Rent.
I rant.
So, I mean, as far as that note, yeah.
That's how I feel personally.
But everybody hard as fuck, too.
Shout out Lili Baby.
Shout out Ashbash.
Because they've been supporting me, too.
Like, their love is real.
Shout out, just living baby.
she just hit me too the love is real i don't fuck with ash bash why no i'm bushing
oh hey you want to know it's crazy hey you want to know she jizzles oh yeah that's my niggins
man hey you want to know l-a bro i went i knew ashbattle before she even started rapping we went to krenshaw
together before she checked out and he started doing her other shit but was they on her ass at krenshaw
i don't know because i me i was i was so everywhere at krenshaw because i was like i said one day i'm
skateboarding the next week I'm on a football team the next week I'm on a track team
the next week I'm selling juice and chips yeah like I was always yeah like I was
doing everything that's why niggas really know me you know I'm saying like I was
everywhere like I didn't stay in one place I was doing everything I'm ditching I'm
going you know I'm saying I'm coming back to the school like it was just bad and I
still graduated by the way man that's crazy I went to Crenshaw too and we all was
Chris Shaw was a great school
Shout on Chris Shaw.
Hey, shout on Chris Stevens.
Shout on Ms. Stevenson.
Shout on Ms. Stevenson.
Chris Shaw was a great school, man.
I'd be telling the things, like, no, Chris Shaw.
I'm like, brother, stop watching movies, that shit was.
It had his flaws, though.
It did.
I mean, after school, the football game.
If you're doing that, you're at your own risk.
Yeah, don't stay.
When the game over, you got to bend us.
Go home.
Go home five and to the fourth game.
Yeah.
No, 10 minutes.
They're waiting at the gate.
Dorsey, Currin'Sharkin?
They're waiting at the gate.
Yeah, it's bad.
They're waiting at the gate.
Yeah.
So, you know, being from the 50s, man, you got that schoolboy Q placement yet?
Yeah, I did, but he working on his album.
And, yeah, we got bangers.
We just got to wait until they come out.
That's a lot with the industry.
Damn, you got bangers with that nigga?
Yeah, man.
Oh, this nigga is so crazy.
He don't fuck with it.
nobody.
He didn't even believe I made beats
until last year.
That's crazy, bro.
I'm telling him,
and I'll make beats.
He's like, oh, all right, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he don't make no fucking beats.
Yeah, you don't make no beat.
Next year, next year.
But he letting me come to the shows.
He letting me come to the video shoot.
He let me do everything.
But every time I bring up beats,
he's not fucking with it.
He just, oh, all right, you know what I'm saying?
So then
Excuse me
So then
Yeah one day
Butter called me
He's like
Hey, you're fucking with it
You know what I'm saying
You heard some shit
I'm like nigga I've been trying to tell you
You like yeah I heard that shit with you
And chite you hard
I'm like yeah nigga I've been trying to tell you
So yeah he let me
Work with him
And yeah like I said
I can call Q
And yeah whenever you're in the studio
I can just pull up
That's tight that you got to
place him, man.
That's type that he's showing loves because he really don't, man.
You know what?
Because he's just like, you got to be in tune with your craft.
Like, if you're not taking that shit serious, he's not taking you serious.
Like, he ain't took me serious to the gang shit.
Like, get the fuck out of here.
But now I'm doing this shit.
He's like, you just got to prove yourself.
Like, if you're really doing something and they're not taking you serious,
that's because you ain't doing enough.
Like, people wasn't fucking with me like in 2016.
But like I said, I made my way to where it's like, oh, right, I'm undeniable now.
So it's like, you just got to like keep working on your craft and make them believers.
Oh, God.
You know what I want you to do right now?
Because, again, since no jumper, a lot of people don't know you.
You're producers.
And, you know, before I would say that, I feel like producers should be, you know, I'm saying, get way more love.
Producers and engineers should have way more fucking love.
It should be a motherfucking award show.
you niggas because you niggas are fucking geniuses you you put you curating this shit you
cooking this shit you put this shit together you know only for this nigga to put the words on it
even though you know rappers are geniuses too and they own right but you niggas are
exceptional at what you do you're putting the artists together and making sure like this
shit is catchy it and it's in tune and you right there giving your feedback like if it's if it
ain't for you niggas it's like it's like super crazy you know what I'm saying
Like, it's super crazy.
I mean, and I've been dropping my own singles, and they've been going crazy.
Shout out OVO Radio, like, Drake tapped in.
Like, he listening.
He tuned in with this L.A. shit, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Like, he knows what's going on.
Shout out Oliver, and they played my song.
My single I dropped with Blue Bucks, because I'm like an artist slash producer now.
I'm dropping songs under Loda Great.
You know what I'm saying?
So one of my songs ended up on OVO Radio, so that was crazy.
But how is that, how much, how is that, you know,
and how important is that to you to be like an artist, producer,
and be in these videos and showing your fucking face and letting me guys know.
Yeah, like, I always envision myself as P. Diddy, you know what I'm saying?
So it was just like, you know.
Dancing P. Diddy.
Yeah, and I'm dancing in all your video.
He is P. Diddy.
This thing is dancing in your video.
It's like we need him in the video.
Like, love him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that.
I like that.
So, yeah, I always wanted to be like a mustard.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, mustard, like, like, like, when Rack City came out and all the little, like,
fucking all the mustard shit, the YG just read up shit, I'm like, hell yeah, like, he's
from where I'm from, like, we can actually do this.
You know what I'm saying?
I was inspired.
So that's what I'm saying.
It's crazy how he, like, co-signing me and shit.
Yeah, so back again, like what I was saying.
I want these fans to know what the fuck you've produced, you know, so far.
Like, what artists have you produced and what songs these niggas listen to?
And so niggas be like, damn, that's you.
Okay, so we're going to go to walking in Blue Bugs Clan.
We're going to go, um, little boozy on a dick.
Damn, bye.
Lil Bousie?
I didn't even know that.
Yeah.
squirking like it's twerking on the dick twerk twerk twerk twerk yeah banger damn that's a hell of a panger um we gonna go uh we gonna go a z chike burn rubber again uh we gonna go love a z chike uh blue face uh i made a song called uh famous famous
Famous Crip, which is the title of his album.
Oh, you did Famous Crip.
You did that?
Yeah, but he got respect my Cripping.
It gets confused, but I did the song called Famous Crip.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then I got another one with him is
Two Dix with Why I'm, Why Being, Yeah, Why Be in the Mirror?
Uh-huh.
And then I got another one with them called OnlyFans.
and we got more shit
but it ain't out of shit
we got some shit with
oh yeah
Draco Lil Busy
I did that song
Oh you did that
Yeah with Stupid Young
I did the engineer scared
With Draco as well
With him
We gonna go
Banger
I did hello
I did hello
One take J
I did a lot of
I did Walflower one take Jay
I did some shit with Haiti Baby
I forgot what that song was called
I think it's all day
I love it though
you know because I see producers
now like you know
produced by such and such songs that you didn't know
I produced
and it's like you did that shit 10 years ago
but it's just like
you know shout out hit boy
but because you know
motherfuckers didn't know what he was doing now it's just like songs hit boy produced it's like
you niggas didn't know this who what this nigga was doing yeah that's what i'm saying yeah that's
i talked to hit boy he'd be dm in me and shit yeah um but yeah nah they they kind of know kind of
but i'm noticing that people do be ignoring the tag but they don't be ignoring my tag no more
because they know it's me now so uh yeah the short line shit was califa uh uh
What else?
Damn.
Almighty's tough bag.
I remember, like, we made a banger.
And then little Yadi hopped on it.
And then Lil Yadi just recently DM me, too, for some other shit.
I got some shit.
The Hello Remix with Rich the Kid.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shit.
When do you feel like at any point in your career that you're going to have to take your tag off?
Do you feel like the tag is sometimes like...
Q not playing that shit?
the tag
he's not playing that shit
oh tell that thing you need your tag
yeah he's not
playing that shit
yeah tell that nigga you need your tag
no
do you feel like the tag is gonna be
you know be ghetto
or some certain artists when you bigger
it's like niggas blind
I ain't playing no fucking tag
no they do like they do
it just depends
like if I really talk to him
he might but it don't even matter to me
you know what I'm saying
like long as I get paid
and the music good
I'm fucking with it.
But like I said, my tag
is coming to where it's like
if I take my shit off and send it to somebody,
they're like, hey man, put the shit back on.
Stop playing.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's just like,
it's optional.
I'm not tripping.
How was those studio sessions
with like Draco and Ralphie?
Are we just sending beats?
I've never been to a studio session
with Drake and Ralphie.
I always text them the beats or email them.
That's what you're doing like,
just like.
No, I pull up the sessions.
I pull up to sessions like it's crazy because like they don't know all the back behind
the scene shit that I've been involved in like far as like like like back in a day with
Roddy Rich and shit like like we I remember when Bugsy when we made hello that session like
people don't know but it was me Rootie Bugsy Kalin Roddy Rich like we was all up in there
And then I remember after the session, it was like, everybody left.
And me and one take Jay was still in there.
Everybody just left.
And then we was like, hey, can we ask the engineer?
Like, can we record one more song?
And then he recorded hello.
He dropped it and it just went crazy.
Man, that shit's sick.
And hold on.
I'm my own hello.
Like, it's a part where I got words in there.
People ignore it, but it's in there.
You got to let that be know.
I mean, at that point, you're a rapper then, man.
It's like, hear, he, he's a rapper, lo, he.
It's like, it's just part of the song.
It was like, damn, Jay's you calling you again.
And it's like at the, like, towards the end.
But yeah, like, that shit was funny.
Like, I really got to put the headphones on and really say that part.
What's the craziest session you ever been in?
The old chike sessions.
The old chike sessions.
What was chike doing?
Please tell me.
He'll throw a function in the whole studio session.
And still recording.
He's doing what he's supposed.
to do, but it'll be a whole party.
Going crazy. Trapplantic.
He had Traplanic lit.
Damn. And you was there?
I was there, bro. When I got so hot,
I would walk into Traplanic. Joe Moses will have a beat
playing by me. One take will be in this room,
having a beat playing by me, and Chike will have a beat playing by me.
All three rooms. Swear to God, I can't make that up.
That's cold.
You know what I mean? That's cold.
When did you feel like, you know what?
I'm gonna do my DJ Call this shit too,
nigger, put out these mixtapes.
You feel I'm gonna.
So, crazy story.
So, I'm at Chike House.
He was in, like, Torrance.
It was like, I remember it was like,
almighty, infant, rest in peace,
one take J.
They was all pulling up,
and he was recording.
And then, like, I was like,
hey, let me get this song.
So everybody was just giving me
So I had like them near 15 songs by just niggas.
Like, uh, so I'm like, damn, I'm just gonna put that Vicky, uh, Vicki tape out or named it Vicki.
So you had beats, he was giving them beats.
They rapped on it.
They were like, here, you can have it.
Yeah, because we recorded like five, 10 songs.
Oh, okay.
You know, so it's like, oh, yeah, what's up with this one?
What's up with this one?
Oh, yeah, let me get this one.
Oh, yeah, do your thing.
Boom.
And then on my first thing.
tape. I got a million views, a million plays on SoundCloud with One Take J and Infant, the do
song. And then, like, people started really fucking with me after that. And that's what made me
do number two. AD on number two, G. Burrico on number two. I was listening to AD on that. I'm
going to have to talk to him about that shit. I'm going to have to talk to that nigga about
that, man. Those are two classics, man. Those really, like, put me into, like, my artist
bag like I'm an artist like I'm not saying one word but these minds yeah in a in front of
vicky house how important was you how important to you you know you know stamping vicky and
having her house in the background and just you know making that memorable moment for her because like
her computer is the reason why I'm making the beats like when uh I have to put fL um
the computer was her computer
you know what I'm saying
giving it all type of viruses
breaking it she mad
gotta get it fixed
till it was over
virus again grandma
what we doing can you please fix it
yeah she's still fixing it because she really
believed in me
then she passed away and then I was just like
you know what I just gotta keep it going
keep her memory alive how did she pass away
cancer
damn yeah
how did that affect you like did it like
It affected me bad.
Like, it was, like, to the point where it's like I was shocked for, like, a whole day.
Like, I couldn't believe it.
Like, they're like, because I watched her die.
You know what I'm saying?
Because it's slow, right?
Yeah, no, it's like when you, I don't know, when you seen somebody, like, I don't know if anybody's seen somebody solely their body,
but when I walked in the house, I'm like, hey, grandma, she's not giving me no response.
Like, I think she's breathing, but it's not, like, I'm trying to tap her.
It's not, you know, it's not working.
So my cousin was doing her nails.
She was just breathing like a minute ago.
And then she sleep.
I'm like, nah, she not sleep.
She know my voice.
She going to give me a little, you know, something.
All I know is it wasn't something.
And then all I seen, I kept tapping her.
My cousin, tear dropped.
I'm like, damn.
I just, my uncle came.
He was like, oh, shit.
Like if he's calling, I just walked.
I paced up and down.
down 51st, 10 times.
I don't know what I was doing, but I just was pacing back and forth.
And then I just eventually just went home.
But I didn't know I was walking up and down the street.
That's crazy, bro.
Yeah, it was just crazy.
So from there, I was just like, I was hot on me.
I was hot at God, everybody.
Like, damn, he took my grandma like that.
So I was just like, damn.
But I knew it was coming.
It was just like when it really happened,
It's just like, God damn, you really did that.
What was that conversation with God?
Because I had that conversation with God to him.
They took my homie, and I felt like he wasn't supposed to be took.
I was like, hey, this is a nigga right here.
I feel like you like, hey, God, I only want to talk to you no more.
That's what I'm feeling like.
I went so extreme to where I was like, you know what?
This is it for you, GOD.
This is it, because I can't.
Yeah.
I ain't fucking with you no more, because.
Yeah, on God, that's how I was.
You feel me?
I pour a long.
time, you feel
I'm gonna be
until you know
some incidents
where my mama
had to take me
to church
you know
the whole little
little box
because I felt like
you know
I was doing a whole lot
in the streets
and I felt like
shit
it might be
a little over
for me
I might have to
be in tune
with something else
but
him taking
mom
kind of fuck me up
but then
I learned
a good
lessons
from that shit
like
valuable lessons
yeah
that like
we are needed here
you feel
me
other people need us
here too
you feel
me to keep them
going
and keep them motivated.
But, you know, with Grandma passed and just, like,
what kept your motivation going?
Basically, me accepting it, like, yeah, she's never coming back.
It's over, man.
Just all you can do is keep her in your heart and go crazy.
Yeah.
Do what you love because she's looking down.
I know she, you know, looking down, trying to, you know,
help me do what I'm doing.
Like, I recently, yesterday, I went to church yesterday.
the one that she passed away
had her funeral at
and I just sat there
I didn't even know
I was going there
I got my hair cut
and I just went there
you know what I'm saying
I sat there for like
a cool hour and then left
but that wasn't my plan at all
like when I sat in the seat
my first thing was like
damn I'm about to cry
but then
I really started listening
to the pastor
and the pastor
he was saying some cool shit
so I feel like he spoke to me
after that he stopped speaking
I just dipped on out of there
Man, that's cool.
I mean, you know, you get them messages, man.
And then you got your people here, man, you doing your thing.
Like, you know, where in your career did you feel like, you know what?
I got to create a whole entire brand, too, with this shit and, you know, and start selling merch and start doing my thing.
Okay, yeah.
So after, like, my first, like, son, you know, shout all my kids.
I love y'all, DeAngelo, Little Sage, you know.
That's my heart.
Oh, you got kids.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, I got two kids.
two boys. Oh, how are you? I'm 27. Oh, that's crazy. People think I'm 21. No, I just
look this good. You're preserving your energy. The kids driving you crazy? Yeah. Oh, you still with your
baby mama? No. I was going to fuck y'all. I'm on child support. It's over.
You know, child support? I'm on child support. Oh, come on. Yeah, it ain't no turning. She brought.
from that that's because you put you put that stupid ass chain on
she's like they got all my bread from this thing he's crazy
hey we got good lawyers man
it's all good you feel me you take care of the kids man it's all for the kids it's all
good man take care of the kids but you got the brand going man you got the merch
going they both got it on you got it on yeah you got it all
you know what I'm saying yeah coming every we got we all be in the studio coincidence
So everybody got it on.
Yeah.
Yeah, put it on.
Shit, I ain't got one.
I hope y'all brought a free one for me.
Yeah, I got you.
No, that ain't going to say free.
I'll pay for it.
No, you're good.
You're good.
But yeah, as far as, like, me starting up, my LLCs,
I got, like, a couple businesses.
I do, like, I'm an engineer.
I'm a manager.
I'm an NR.
I sell, like, flash drives with, like,
exclusive content. I got a B website.
I got my merch site.
I try to do everything
because like
why not?
Yeah. Why not? And they fucking
with it. Like, you know, it's actually going
somewhere like
it's like
they really fucking with it. I mean, because you definitely
got to have different avenues too.
You know, revenue, you know, streams
that come. You know, even though you're a
producer like you got to sell like
your whole little. It's an image.
You feel me?
And then, you know, I got to protect you.
I got to let y'all know.
I got to teach y'all.
It's kind of like what mixed by Ali doing, you know, with engineering ears.
I like that.
You feel me?
I like what he's doing with that.
Oh, you be at a studio.
Yeah, yeah.
You tapped in with engineering ears.
You know, what are he doing with that whole little thing?
Yeah, yeah.
I was probably, I was going to try to, like, fuck with it.
But I was just like, you know what?
I'm going to just tap in with him and probably he wanted me to work with his artist.
Mm.
So I'm going to fuck with her.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, he tapped into me with the artist too thing.
I mean, because, you know, producers too, like, you know, get that class going.
I mean, even for artists, too, like that, you know, entertainment lawyers should you keep talking about?
Like, motherfuckers need that.
Yeah, facts, man, because niggas don't, like, the rapper, I learned, like, the music industry, like, cutthrow.
Like, if it's up to the rapper for you to get paid, the rapper don't give a fuck.
You know what I'm saying?
So my thing is get that entertainment lawyer, hit their people.
if they're not complying
hey man get that song took down
well that's crazy
you take your thing in songs now
no i never take my song down
he ain't even gave me no beach yet
my thing is like
like business is business
most of these rappers don't know
and it's okay
my thing is hey I'm trying to tell you
who is your manager who are who represent
you like can we talk about it
you know what I'm saying
don't be petty why not just put
produced by at the end of the
a title if you need me pay for the beat i took my time to make it and like i said we're working with
niggas like we ain't we ain't trying to charge well i'm charging high now but we ain't trying to
like i'll work with you even though i charge high because i fuck with the the movement like it's been
times where they like hey uh i tell them my my uh price and they'll be like look i got this and i'll be like
you know what how about you don't pay me just give me a swap you do a song for me you can add a motherfucker
You know what?
Or you know what
That's all you got?
Fuck it
You know what I'm saying
But you got to come to me with that
Instead of trying to be mad
Like
Oh no
It's over
Like pay for the beat
What's have you ever been in a session
You'd like you know what
I need to call my motherfucker
Lord
This ain't going
No that's not how I go
You get them the beats
And then when they're about to put it out
They post to contact you
Sometimes they don't
But when they don't
You be like
Hey, who represent you, like, you represent yourself, you're a lawyer, so we can talk about, you know, the beat.
Give me a name.
What?
You, man.
Who you been through that with?
Hey, I've seen it coming.
Yeah, who you been through that with?
I mean, yeah.
A lot of people.
What's a lot of big name of nigger?
Everybody.
Keep you push out.
Okay.
You know, yeah, look.
Name my nigg.
I don't want to pay.
I mean, because how much is a load of grade B right now?
Yeah, no comment, man.
We're not about to do that.
Ah, because it's getting me.
Hiring.
After this interview, it's going to go probably higher.
It's going up.
So, I mean, but you got to be grateful to get one for free, nigga.
You feel me?
So if you get one for free, you know how much it costs.
See what it do.
You got to help me out.
I'm helping you out.
So, you know what I'm saying?
You got to know your word.
Yeah, I know my word.
Yeah.
If you want to know the price, man, please.
Contact me.
We're going to figure it out.
Because like I said, I don't, I really want to work with niggas.
I don't have to charge people, you know, that price and less.
Like I said, I'm willing to work with niggas.
Is it over 10?
Yeah.
You could call motherfucker.
Damn.
And you're going to give me one for free?
Yeah.
Two.
Five.
I'm in there.
I got 50 racks worth of some shit cracking.
Yeah.
They don't want to be knowing.
Yeah, I got 50 racks worth some shit coming.
You know what I'm saying?
But, you know, once your boy right here feel like, you know,
he's on a level as far as, you know, like, you know, growing.
Like, you feel like you were on a level when you left Ron Ron and then.
Like, what's going to happen?
I feel like when I signed them, I made it a part of his contract to him to leave whenever he wanted to leave.
Oh, I fuck with you.
Like, Roe, really, like, you're a real naker.
For real, because he.
And Loeb wasn't even talking about no, if you get bigger than me, he told me straight up.
We got each other.
It wasn't no.
It wasn't no, like, if you got.
get to a certain level you just go do your own thing you just always love yeah i'll eat like hey
bro make like make like make uh put do your merch let's do your merge you know what i'm saying because i
really feel like if he say he ended up bigger than me i feel like he gonna bring me up too just like i'm
trying to do him like i said you never know he might be like fuck you but like i said i don't
think that look it uh like the naptunes like for real but like i said that ain't what i'm on
i'm not even focus on that my my intentions is pure and we're gonna see what happened
growth yeah because what's your intention like what you what you feel like you're gonna get out of
this i feel like i'm about to change the sound yeah i feel like i'm about to just be me do me whatever
god allow me to do and what he putting me in so it's gonna happen okay that's it well artists like
motivate y'all like what artists and producers right now and it's time motivate you motivate you like
yeah one take man hey one take really yeah one take j bro he changed my life for real like it was
his work ethic or just you know talent in general like from his energy to how he work like he really
have fun like he not on no like try like that too but um but yeah like j like he on some like i'm about to
have fun like all that thinking too hard and shit like that hell no we're about to just make this
shit and get on to the next one i mean because if you in there with a per you know and an artist and you put
it on a beat the niggas start you know doing this you know you know
And it's hour in, you like, fuck, do that bother you?
Do you, you know what I'm saying?
You feel like this nigga don't know what the fuck he's doing or?
No, because I can communicate with people.
Like, I feel like I'm really talkative.
I can talk to people like, hey, man, can you fix that?
You know what I'm saying?
Hey, you should do it like this or you know what?
Do it like that.
You know what I'm saying?
So sometimes rappers, they do that a lot.
Like, they know the bar hard, but they are still asking me, A Lo, you fucking with that?
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's just like,
so it's just like, fuck it.
You know, sometimes you need that.
You know what I'm saying?
You need that, you know,
like, you need somebody to, you know,
be on the same page.
And then it'll be sometimes where I'd be like,
no, that wasn't it.
You should say it like this.
So that's what I'm saying.
That's what real producer's supposed to do.
It really, like, you know,
calculate the shit in every step with it.
Like, because it is some motherfuckers
that cook up from scratch.
Like, y'all doing that with artists?
Yeah, that's what we do.
Yeah, that's hard
Like cooking up from scratch right there
Because you know
Some people just want the fucking meat
Send the fodder
We cook from scratch
We got
We got beat
Would you rather lock in with an artist
Yeah
We yeah
Yeah, hell yeah
That's the problem
But you gotta think
We can't really
We can't really lock in
Because you gotta think
We own Bino shit
Then we got to do we own Rootie shit
Then we own
G Perico shit
Then we don't want to take Jay shit
Then we
So you don't want to lock in
No, we do, but we working with so many niggas.
It's, like, kind of hard.
Like, we drop in with somebody every week.
Babystone, Gorillas.
Ralphie, everybody.
We so, like, we so, like, locked in with everybody.
So if Q is in, like, you know what, lock in with me?
Fuck everybody else I need you, me for 30 days.
Man, we're going to send them beats and them people, and we're going to lock in with Q.
Yeah, real.
I feel like locking in with the artist is the sickest shit you could do.
Hell yeah, I locked them with a couple artists.
Yeah.
I'm blocking in with her.
Period.
Yeah.
And it's really a blessing, to be honest, like.
You're blessed.
We be in there having fun too.
We're having fun.
Yeah, we're having fun.
Like, we're not.
It's real support, real love.
We're not even going off like, because you gotta think, like, people will be on the, oh yeah,
LA need to do this, LA need to do that.
We're getting streams, like by having fun.
Like, when I drop my song, it gets the streams, I'm getting paid.
Like, why y'all care?
so much about the state of Los Angeles
hip hop. Yeah, because a lot of
motherfuckers do. A lot of motherfuckers do.
Like, and then like... Because do, how do you feel
about the state of Los Angeles hip hop?
I'm getting paid, so I love it.
You don't give a fuck. You know what I'm saying?
That's a low on everything, though.
Like, you got to think, like, you feel me?
They, I don't know...
That's up to the artist, right?
Yeah, it's really up to the artists and these people
because they be like, oh, L.A. need to do this.
L.A. need to do that. But I'll be like,
damn, like, I'm doing good.
I don't got to work no job. You know what I'm saying?
So I don't know what L.A. need to do, but, you know, it could be better.
It's room for improvement with everything.
But I'm saying, Atlanta got it right now.
Eventually, like I said.
I say Detroit.
Detroit.
Like I said, look, Detroit.
Memphis.
Yeah, Memphis is coming up.
Memphis is going.
Yeah, hey, she was with her video shoot.
Hey, was doing it up.
Collabbing up.
Yeah, I like that.
She in the video, too.
Yeah.
But, like I was saying, um, Detroit, they sound coming back.
you never know.
They should have.
Well, yeah, they're here.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
They hear.
They're trying to take.
They took it.
They took it.
Look, yeah.
But you never know.
LA might be in a couple months or next year or the next five years.
You never know.
But until then, like I said, we're still getting millions of views and millions of streams.
And that accumulates to money.
So at the end of the day, it don't matter what, you know, just perfect your craft and really love what you do.
I mean, too, as a producer, you will want to block.
awesome too. Like how do you
reach those other markets? The South
you like listen to the other hand. You just got to work
with different people. I got some
shit with 42 Doug like I said
sometimes. I got some shit
rapping on my
beats. Everybody that I told you that
I fucked with
it's on like the LA
sounding beats from the Y being in the mirror
from the rich the kid from the
42 Doug. That's all load of great
sounding beats. I even got
Q on a little great sounding beat.
And it's crazy.
On me.
So that's what I'm saying.
Would he put it out?
Who knows?
But like I said, I'd be trying to end.
Like I said, he wasn't really fucking my trap beat until he came in one day because I make
all type of beats.
People don't know that.
I'm just known for the L.A. shit.
I'm playing beats in the studio at a session.
He's like, damn, this shit, hard.
Who made this?
I'm like, me.
He's like, oh, shit.
So then, now he's fucking with my trap beats.
So that's what I'm saying.
At the end of the day, like,
Yeah, you just gotta.
Yeah.
When you say underground, what do you mean?
What do you mean by that?
Like underground?
Me?
Yeah.
I mean like artists that's trying to find a sound,
coming up artists.
That's what I mean.
People that's looking for what they're gonna present in music.
That's what I mean by like underground, people that still trying to
How do you search for that?
Because I'm not on SoundCloud and I'm not looking for them niggas trying to find a sound.
I find songs like that just on social media.
Just people trying to promote.
They sound and I listen to it.
It's these young niggas from S5
and R3.
Crazy.
Yeah, they hard.
I need them young niggas up here.
If y'all see that,
you little motherfuckers need to come up here.
You know what I'm saying?
They got their own sound too.
It don't sound like a Detroit beat
everybody getting on.
But I think that Detroit wave is going to adjust the LA sound
because everybody rapping to a Detroit type.
But you can incorporate.
That's the thing about like making beats.
You can make a L.A. Detroit type of beat.
You can always.
incorporate some shit together
and make it hard.
You ever steal somebody sauce?
Just a little bit.
Still somebody's sauce.
Just put it in there
like you just heard some shit
get motivated and get in there
like how y'all?
Y'all.
I get inspired by other people
but I never like,
oh yeah, let me steal that little
I never did that.
Have somebody stole your shit.
Yeah.
Every day.
Every day.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
But do that make you feel like good
about yourself?
Like this shit is tight.
I feel good now.
At first I was mad.
Like, 2016, 2017.
Like, what the fuck?
Why he remade my beat?
But then when I started getting, like, money and shit, I'm like, oh, yeah, I don't care.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I mean, because if you tap in load of grade beat, nigga, and you just all over YouTube,
nigga, you're supposed to.
You better feel like a superstar at this point, nigga.
You feel me?
You ever heard a beat you like and told a producer to remake it?
Damn right, I did.
Yeah.
I'm scandalous.
That's funny.
So that happened to you before?
That happened to y'all niggas before?
Yeah, sometimes people tell me to remake me.
You know one thing I hate about artists?
What?
Song popping.
Everybody hitting you.
Let me get that type of beat.
Yeah, like that's dumb.
That's crazy.
And it's crazy because it would be the money and deliver?
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, but it's like, bro, we, it's been times where I sent the nigga to beat before I sent
the other nigga to beat.
You didn't take it.
He didn't take it.
And then he made a bang.
to it and you're like hey i can't see me no shit like that like i sent it to you thank you
you what you didn't answer or are they'll be like i had something to that yeah they didn't have
lying though giving you the run around all the time nah no no they line because you do you see
multiple artists the same shit and whoever use it it got they got 30 days they don't hit you back
they don't hit you back they don't hit you back sometimes um so when they don't hit you
you back, it's like, nigga, did you even listen to the beats?
All we asked words is a double tap.
Yeah, like, hey, yeah, I'm fucking with them.
That's all you got to do.
But if you don't do that on me, these ain't yours no more.
Next.
Yeah.
What was the first experience you had when you got your first, your biggest check?
Like, what did you do with it?
I bought my dream car, which is a challenger.
I don't have that anymore.
You crashed it?
No, no.
I traded it in and put some money and got my first bins.
I ain't going to lie.
And then, yeah.
You wasted your bread.
How much money was it?
All right, look, look.
My first big...
That nigga went bought a car.
Okay, look, the first big check?
No, no.
Okay, my first big money was off a beat.
I charged like, I got $5,000 for a beat.
But my first big one was $50,000.
Oh, yeah.
For producing.
From producing.
No more job.
It's over.
It's done.
I'm a full-time producer.
This is my.
job this is the career that I'm choosing do you feel like I'm gonna make 200,000 beats right after
this uh or did you go out there no basically it was funny because uh my lawyer was telling me like
hey man the shit shit you know uh sometime this week so I don't got no official date so I'm checking
my shit at 12 o'clock Monday Tuesday Wednesday trying to see trying to see this shit hit
like I think
Wednesday
and then
because he was like
the latest Friday
the shit hit in the middle of the week
my heart pounding
because I ain't never really seen that much money
in account at one time
so when I
when it really came I'm like
damn like
it's over like this is what I'm doing
like my heart pounding fast
like so then I'm like damn
I like I look you want to just flex on niggas
but like I didn't
I really just just
was just buying shit that I just wanted you know so like I said I got my dream card which is the
challenger and then um I was just buying shit that I just wanted like you know like clothes you know
um yeah paid my rent up see with my mama on you know what I'm saying like that you want some money
you know uh just shit like that me and general I ain't gonna lie to you I blew all that shit
niggins you took me three days me no I blew it but I didn't blow it but I didn't blow
I didn't blow it fast.
I'm gone, nigga.
I don't know what this thing.
I got going on.
I blew that shit.
Digger, car, two car clothes.
Jerry,
nigga, fucking,
I don't even,
I didn't even have an apartment to blow on rent.
Fuck a apartment.
It was just lit, though.
So I understand.
Niggas is young, though, yeah.
Yeah, man.
You always blow that first big one.
But yeah, man.
I enjoyed myself, man,
talking to y'all,
fucking with y'all.
Before we get out of here,
I want to, you know,
make sure y'all shout out
to everything y' y'all got going.
on what y'all got coming up new what it do you're saying your social media is you
know what by one is that trait underscore is callie rant callie rant underscore r a n t because i rent
and ben ben you feel me load of grade probably load of grade man follow me that's instagram
twitter load of great and you know uh yeah fuck on my music it's on all digital platforms
uh for the future yeah ben ben ben just dropped uh
Stay tuned for Cali Rand, me and Tray going to continue going crazy.
Hell yeah.
Stay tuned for more merch drops, more beats on the website.
Tap in with me.
Shout out my partner, my managing partner, Irene, Giggles.
You know what I'm saying?
The goat.
And, yeah, stay tuned for just shit.
Like, they really, they eyes on me.
So just shit that I do, they just, they just.
gonna have to see it they it's gonna it's gonna be in their face so fuck it man i'm just gonna just do
shit vicky three vicky three man stay tuned man we're gonna drop these singles first but man
stay tuned at least put me on the interlude naga i need something he didn't do so for me you
yeah yeah man but yeah all right y'all man we're out of here gone period
