No Jumper - MAD LAtely Ep. 19 w/ pusharod
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The laugh after
When it pop, I'm gonna take a double.
And we're live!
This is nipple lately, no, this is mad lately.
I'm Rose Crenzvic.
Gene Abuse.
She said not to turn her head too bad.
Came in super hot.
She said, on Gina Vuees.
Nobody movement, just hair.
Yeah.
And we got special guests push it right in the building.
Yeah, yeah.
What they do?
A&R extraordinaire, manager, extraordinaire.
L.A. Legend.
L.A. Stapleys.
Say that.
I'm your pusher.
Regular naked.
I cuss, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Regular naked.
Fuck shit.
What's the deal, bro?
How you feeling?
Nah, man, I'm feeling good.
You know, 2021 started off good for me, you know?
Yeah, I feel it.
Oh, feel the same way.
What about you, game?
How you feeling?
Same shit.
Feeling real good. You know, started off this morning with a long-ass run.
I did six miles today. I'm feeling really good.
You'd be getting your run on to like detoxify all the.
Yeah, I'll be drinking a lot.
Ever since pandemic, I've been drinking a lot.
So the only balance, the yin with the yang, I got to run or else I can't drink.
There you go.
So I'm feeling good though.
Yeah.
What about you, Gina?
I'm straight.
That's it?
That's it.
I'm straight.
How are you doing?
How was the weekend, Victor?
My weekend was, it was interesting.
I went to a video shoot.
I missed, I'm mad as fuck at myself for missing Desi G's video shoot.
We all fucked up.
But shout out to them.
They did that I need that 2.0.
Desi G.
Duno, Ashby, Ashbash, and K.B. Devon.
Right.
And Ray.
And they brought the whole hood out.
Yeah.
Shit.
That shit looked dope.
And I just fucked up.
Like my whole day, like I didn't have nothing to do with the entire day.
And I was like, oh, yeah, I'm going to slide over there like 4 o'clock.
Then before I knew it was like 445 and it ended at 5.30.
And I was like, yo, I'm 30 minutes away.
Like, I'm not going to make it.
Yeah.
Well, he sent me the address at 530 and he was like, we're going to be here until 7.
I was like, oh shit.
Oh, shit.
So I would have, yeah, I would have made it.
It looked like they was out there all night.
I got to drop out of everything.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
She bring them out, though.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, they had all the L.
There it looked like it was real cracking.
Yeah.
We got to start going out, y'all.
Yeah, as a unit.
Yeah.
For sure.
Like, we did that one time.
That stripper part of you got to be too?
Yeah, we got to do that again.
You mean when I was helping you move out your new house?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's the same night, right?
That weekend.
Yeah, I moved again.
Yeah.
You got to stop moving, bro.
That couch he had to move?
Yeah.
That's why I brought the truck out.
Remember?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
That was a good night.
Yeah, I got to come to a friend of a friend.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nah.
No, y'all should be like on some invite on these type shit.
You like got to have like a special code to get in.
Do I need a blue check to get in or?
Yeah.
I'm working on it.
No, you're good people.
We good.
We good.
All right.
I don't want to get to the door and they're like, yeah.
Are you on the main show on a jump or are you?
Yeah.
Like what do you do really?
They're like, you're like you're a place cam girl or?
Yeah.
They're like, y'all there cleaning toilets.
What's you in there doing?
That's every New Year's Eve, right?
Nah, so I try to do it like every few months.
Basically, it's just like a dope event where I integrate and mix my friends,
because I got a lot of different friends from a lot of different atmospheres.
And a lot of people live in L.A., but they don't really get the L.A. vibe when they go out because
Hollywood is not L.A.
We build off house parties and kickbacks and stuff like that.
So I try to create that vibe, create a safe place, energy where I invite a lot of my friends
and invite fans and regular people to come and be in the same room with some of their favorite rappers.
actually party, not just
standing around and look at them, but have a good time.
Yeah. Well, y'all did that for us back in
the day with like the club kiss
era. What was the other one called?
Winter Classic. Level 10.
Yes, yeah, yeah. I forgot about
level 10. Yeah, y'all did that first back
then. And shit, because
we was in the rooms with fucking vixings,
YG and stuff like that before everybody
was up there. So it's really just
taking that same energy
and just doing it now that I'm on
a bigger scale and, you know, got
bigger friends and bigger opportunities
to bring people around. Like, I know so many
people get connected with people just off of that.
Right, right, right. That's fine, y'all.
I sure want to pull up. Do I get a plus 10?
I'm like, plus 10? I'm like, plus 10.
Wait, how many of them, 15 in girls?
The ratio is 60, 40. 60% man.
That'll be dope. That'll be dope. That'll be dope.
When's the next one?
Very soon. I don't
like to really tell the date until
it's about to happen. I really promoted
like probably one, two days before because I usually get like between like 2 to 8,000
RVPs and you know, then I have to go through that list of people and make sure I don't
just send it to everybody because you don't, you know, anything can happen in the city.
Hell yeah, right, right, right, right, right.
It's going to be very soon.
Very soon.
I always find out the night of, like, oh, it looks like they're going up right now.
Oh, that's Russia.
On Instagram, you're like, oh, shit.
I'm watching a nigga stories.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, okay.
You just see different angles of the entire part.
from different stories you're like shit but um yeah man that was uh that was a that was
saturday but sunday i went to the homie tuti guapo and uh kyle banks video shoot
uh it was like in sherman oaks and it was cool but it was just like some random weird
shit happened after but it was just like hella funny so like cause and me's pull up
were there and then like the owner of the house looks kind of weird like he's like
like an older dude and he's just like staring at the girls and like we're like what's up
up with him, you know? And so everybody leaves, and then we're just bullshit and we're like,
yo, how much to rent out the whole house? And then he was like, oh, like, actually, I just sold
the house, but I'm, I'm building another house right down the block. And we're like, he's like,
you guys want to go look at it? And I was like, it was all of us. We're like, fuck it, yeah,
let's go. He's like, yeah, we could walk. So we're all just walking down Sherman Oaks.
I don't know what fucking street. And then we go inside and then he shows us like the house
fucking going to be big ass, beautiful house. And then he's like, yeah, this is where we're
going to shoot the scenes and he's like upstairs that's the orgy room and then i was like what and he's
like yeah this is a porn house he's like the other house you were in the or that's a porn house he's like
he's like but we need to upgrade to a bigger one he's like so and apparently like he has like
porn stars live with him like in i don't know if they pay him or they repay him in different
but like bro was different put it that way this that's what you have bro was really he was
explains us the whole like
just everything about shit we're like
bro what like he's he's into some
different shit yeah that's his blade
yo that I'm telling you
that shit was random but yeah it was mad funny
like you know those random adventures
that you just like how did I even fucking get here
yeah that was one of those for so
speaking of music videos
if you ever watch Kailin
for real for those ain't no fun
you see ass and tities and then you see
like this one 50 year old white
Just partying with him.
Yeah.
The owner of the Airbnb.
For sure.
She had a bottle of 1942 in her head.
I was like, oh shit.
I was like, I don't know how you did this, Kailen.
Oh, God.
No, I really, yeah.
I'm like, I always wonder about that.
Like, why did they stick around, like, while they're renting the shit?
Like, they just stick around to be nosy or whatever.
It's kind of weird.
Just one, why shit going down?
Yeah, he was for shell freaky.
So I knew why he stuck around now.
But yeah.
So what's up?
What you do this weekend?
We did a crazy, uh, crazy.
concert in my little studio with uh do no oh that sure i was at home watching that shit was that
that shit was a big event man we brought people from yeah that was that was thursday that was thursday
that brought a lot of people from all around the world i'm still getting used to this twitch it's so
tight like to be able to you know show show la perform like people in japan were fucking with it
london were tapping in all the way to like you know hawaii i was just like this is real tight man
had over 3 000 people just watching watching the shit vibing out
out. So I was like, oh shit.
Yeah. That's fire. Shout to Dunow.
He brought out Jakarta, Slim.
Yep. Had a whole show.
Cyprus was there. Cyprus was there putting up. So, man, I can't wait to the next one.
Hell yeah. What about you, Gina? She had a wild weekend. Can you go into detail about a...
Who had a while weekend?
You.
You. Is that what the party bus was called?
Who you work for?
You can't just say you're at home.
We saw your story all weekend.
We saw you on Instagram live.
There's a thing about it.
Y'all did not see me.
I did.
You saw someone.
Did you see my face?
I saw your hair.
Okay.
Did you see my face at one point?
I saw your hair.
You saw black hair?
No, it just, it was your hair.
Maybe you saw Yazzy here.
No.
Maybe that was Yaddy.
She said, keep her out of it.
Yeah, she said, keep me out of this.
You were responding to me.
Yeah.
What did I say?
On the live.
Yeah.
What was we talking about?
I said,
what you said,
yeah,
say what you said.
What did I say?
Say what you said.
It was a girl
and dancing on there
and then what did I say?
What did I say?
I said something about like.
Did you remember so much?
Why?
I said like,
like,
like what's her at or something?
Yeah,
like what's her at
or like save her for me
or something like that?
Oh,
you had said something like that?
Something like that,
yeah.
There was a party bus on my live
this weekend.
So we're there?
In the phone like.
Yeah.
Was I aware?
Was you there?
I've been on a party bus before.
Okay, but that certain time on your life, did you have someone else clock in for you?
Somebody might have been logged into my Instagram profile and was recording the party bus for my friend's birthday.
Was it fun?
It's all alleged.
No, I'm just fun with y'all.
No, yeah, it was my home girl birthday, Desiree.
Happy birthday, Desiree.
Happy birthday, Desiree.
Yeah, she rented a party bus.
We went to a hookah lounge.
We ran into reason too.
Oh, shit.
Actually, yeah.
But, yeah, it was cool.
Not too much happened, you know.
Went there, went home, did some homework.
You know, that's it.
That's all that transpired that I remember.
Yeah, right.
Oh, my gosh.
She bullshit is.
Yeah, for real.
There was three apparatus.
No, I went out with Desire came to my house.
We had a big ass some weird shit happened where somebody car got stolen.
So Desire ended up coming to my house afterwards.
Walk up the next day.
Her birthday was Sunday.
So we woke up all.
I cooked their breakfast and shit.
There you go.
Yeah, I honestly did homework all Sunday.
Yeah, it's not about me.
It's about pride.
I was your weekend.
No, my weekend was good.
Shit, Sunday, you know, the Brady Bowl.
I ain't watched nobody else but Tom Brady yesterday.
Champion, the goat.
He's crazy.
Seven times champion.
Listen, that nigga's crazy, man.
It's like, it's unbelievable.
Some of the shit, he really do.
Like, he really just took them bums all away to the bowl.
But yeah, shit on Saturday, shot a video, YG, D3, and Take Two Times.
Oh, for.
Yeah, for a new song coming out very soon, I would tell y'all, but it's live right now.
So, you know, okay.
Niggas gonna start calling my phone.
Bluh, you letting it?
You know?
So, yeah.
Oh, so it's coming out tomorrow.
All right.
Can we just get a title or no time?
You let him back out the bag.
Hey, I fuck with D3, though.
I was able to connect with D3 like a year and a half and get this song,
bounce out on the radio, or jump out, sorry.
Jump out on the radio.
we did like a cool school tour yeah we went to psych by the way and
hondo and then man the reaction is crazy he has a really bright future and I
could tell he's on his way yeah no man if it wasn't for COVID man it'd be a lot of
it'd be a lot of shit going on man that boy D3 he's working though he got a lot of new
music coming out he got a lot of shit together and a lot of very
influential and powerful and dope people in this corner yeah you know there's
There's been a few people like Ray, Ray Alba.
He hit me like, yo, you gotta fuck with D3.
I'm like, say less.
Shout out Ray, man.
That's good people.
Yeah.
But yeah, nah, it's great where it's going.
D3's been working.
He got a new project on the way.
Day Salon.
She got a project on away.
Try to Day Salon.
Yeah.
Also just to I'm the artist from Indiana named Tay 2 times, excited about him.
He got a new project on the way.
We dropped his first single on the 18th of January.
It's called Black Sheep.
Go check that.
out, you feel me? He's fine, though. He's from the Midwest, but you know, he's riding around
out here with some Cali boys. So, um, we know, well, we're going to get into what you did in
the past, but first, like, I guess to tell the people, like, what you're doing currently,
because we know you do a lot, but, you know, we want to know, like, okay, A&R, 400. I mean,
currently right now, you know, I'm just working, you know, I'm a jack of all trades. I got a few
things going on. I have a brand. It's called Psycho, LA. I just dropped a new collection.
called Black History's every month because I'm tired of this Black History month shit.
Like I feel like Black History is all year long.
365. LeBron said it also.
So I just dropped a dope capsule, you know, dedicated to that that I plan to keep up all year long.
Like not just from Black History, but I just started that right now.
Yeah, I got a game that's out.
It's called Hop Out Streets of L.A.
It's about me just riding around, getting money, run through L.A.
like anybody know me no i've been hustling like forever like niggas didn't see me have stores in a
sloths and swap meat i got i had a store on pico uh shit i used to have christmas tree lines
doing christmas season you know oh shit yeah like get it every way yeah it's about the bread you feel
me like like you know a nigga then got a chance to make it out you feel me yeah change so it's
like if i anything i can do to make money and it's positive like i'm gonna try it like because if i like
what's gonna hurt me did not right yeah yeah um
Other than that, yeah, working with everything 400, you know.
Yeah.
Hands on with everything 400.
We got a new 400 project coming out.
And on the A&R side, I just dropped Southside Nietzsche's project on the 28th of January.
It's called Shady Baby.
He's from Atlanta.
Did the deal with him through Gunna, Interscope.
Gunna, executive produced the project is fire.
It's featuring Gunna, Little Dirk, and Gat, Gagg.
Got it.
Yeah, I got it.
Yeah, but Nietzsche's dope.
He's a real Atlanta kid.
Like, I don't even want to say a kid.
He's a real Atlanta nigger.
Like, he ain't, like, none of that other shit.
Like, he really from the streets, and he's talking about the streets and what he's been through through his music.
I met him through my homie, about, like, three years ago.
And we connected, and I signed him at Interscope.
He's been signed over there for about, like, a year and a half.
We put out a mixtape, like, a year ago, and really was working on this new project, and it just came out.
And it's been getting the recognition.
like he's supposed to get.
So excited about that.
CoCash, another artist I signed over at Interscope,
he has a project dropping very, very soon.
He's going to be releasing the release date
in the next couple of days,
but excited about that.
His last single difference was featuring Moneybag Yo.
He's tied in with Gotti and everything going on with CT.
I mean, I CT, my bad.
Motherfucking C-MG.
CMG.
Yeah.
Just talking a little too fast.
It's all right. Play us fuck up.
Yeah, then we can get on that R&B side, you know, Aaron Ray.
Like, signed Aaron Ray in Interscope about four years ago.
We dropped his first album, Platinum Fire.
He's getting ready to drop his second album.
And if y'all love real R&B, you're like, y'all going to love this album.
And if you heard Platinum Fire, this is, like, Platinum Fire on crack.
And if you ain't heard Platinum Fire, you need to go download Platinum Fire right, motherfucking Now.
You know?
But yeah, that's what's going on on the ANR side, like, and just excited, like, about a lot of music.
Like I told you, I signed my first artist, take two times from Indiana, really just been hands-on with him right now.
And helping him understand the real ins and outs about the music industry and shooting videos and connecting with people.
Like, he's from Indiana, but he'd be here, there every couple weeks and have him tied in with all the homies.
Like, y'all hear some of his music.
When we get off here, I'm going to play y'all some shit, so y'all to catch the vibe.
Is Dreezy so on your artist?
Nah, so
Dreezy left the scope
A little while ago
But, you know, like, we still,
like, I literally was on FaceTime
with Dreezy yesterday.
Like, I'm not the type of person,
like, just because I was at a label
or you was at a label, like,
that's going to stop me from fucking with you.
Like, if I fucked with you,
you'll build a real relationship.
You know, even artists
who I had meetings with that I never signed,
like, who went somewhere else.
Like, we still hella close.
We still talk all the time
because it's not just about,
being at a label with me or you know like if if I can be the first nigga to sign somebody's like
how can I help an artist like really help them understand where they can go in their artistry
and sometimes just having a real conversation with the artist can change their view on certain things
because everybody be like fuck this fuck this but you got to really figure out why they're saying fuck this
if you help them understand how which way to move you feel me that's how they make it and that's what
I try to do with any artists and niggas everywhere tell you that like you know I'm really from
the street so I live by that so I know yeah a and R is so important that's what a lot of people
don't understand how things get done how plays get made is a lot through A&R through people like
you through people that just have a multitude of relationships in every direction like you just said you
have somebody from Indiana but now you're connecting with the LA scene and you have people in
Atlanta that you're connecting with L.A. and maybe back to Indiana so it's like exactly
Yeah, that's dope.
That's dope to find out.
I don't know if you've seen that Gucci just signed a new artist.
He announced Pushaiste.
I fuck with Pushiasty.
He's managed by my homie snake.
Shout out ATL Snake, you know.
He also manages South Sinichie.
Oh, shit, okay.
Everybody's tied in.
Yeah, everybody's tied.
Like, if you're really in this shit, you're going to be tied in,
tied in four, five, six ways.
And that's what it's really about, like, really connecting with the people
who's in it and really in it for everybody to grow, not just for their own pocket.
Yeah.
Did you guys listen to Shiky season yet or not?
Bro, that shit is the hardest shit, man.
That was actually my first introduction because I was like on Thursday, I was going
for a long run at the park, right?
And then the homie from Atlantic, one of the heads hit me up and says, what are you doing
right now?
I'm like, oh, I'm trying to do a little run.
And he was like, well, stop what you're doing.
I need to get you on a little mixer meeting.
And I was like, who?
It's like, push iceity and Gucci Man.
And I was like, all right, man, well, I'm going to just chill on this motherfucking bench.
But you're going to see nothing but trees behind me.
And he's like, it's how good.
Like, let's run it.
He just wants to pay the album and just chop it up.
So then it was like a good 10, 15 DJs all across the globe, fat fingers from New York.
Just a lot of like just a lot of big heads that are holding down their area.
And yeah, so there's my first introduction because I'm just like so focused.
than what's popping here.
I don't really get that chance
to really tap in to like different.
So that's like one good thing
that labels really do
is being able to kind of like tap you into something
that you're really not supposed to be hearing
because you know,
you're working in your region and shit happens.
So when he played me,
Pooch-Sci-D, when Pushi-Sty introduced his whole album,
played every record,
Gucci said what he had to say.
He said that like, yo, this is the future 10-17.
We're going fucking crazy.
and right when he played me like the intro
and then right when he played me
was it gone MIA
and then right after that
he played me the church's record
I was like oh this guy's out of here
he's out of here
he has a back in blood shit
yeah back and blood oh my god bro
I was like man I am sleep
no fucking sleep
shout took my boy ramp right over there
he's been telling me for a minute
he's like who shiasty is the future
yeah this nigga YG listen to
back in blood like 30 times back to back.
Oh, that shit is.
Like, bro, we was watching the Super Bowl yesterday
and that's the only song we listened to
doing the commercials.
Yeah.
Every commercial, like, play that back in blood.
That's my shit.
That's dope.
So wait, so you got to talk to Gucci Man?
Yeah.
What do you say?
I mean, he was just like, hey,
he needs that LA love.
He's tapped in everywhere else,
but we need that closure over here on this side.
That's cool that you to go to though for LA.
Fire is fun.
I'm all sweating like mid-joggle.
Yeah.
Gucci, this shit is hot.
I ain't going to lie to you.
Mr. Gucci, I really like the song.
Yeah, but like, man, he played, when he played that whole album,
I was like, this shit is going to change, change that whole, like,
aesthetic of 1017 for show.
1017 records.
Yeah.
You guys think Gucci is the best rapper A&R of all time.
Oh shit.
Or name some others first.
Rick Ross, signed Mick Mill, Waleigh.
Lo Wayne.
Yeah.
Signed.
One of the biggest.
Drake, Nicky.
Tiger.
I don't know if you want to count Birdman because he's more of an executive that turn into an artist.
Who else?
You're missing.
Yo Gotti.
Yo Gotti.
Yo Gotti.
Yo Gotti got like half the industry right now.
No, fact.
Oh, does he get credit for a little baby?
Wasn't he some?
No, he don't have a little baby, but he got 42 Doug.
42.
Oh, sorry, yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Yeah, yeah.
Then he got money bag.
Money bag.
He has 55 bag.
He got something to do with N.
L.E. Chapa.
He got something to do with cold cash.
He got something to do with black youngster.
He worked with Drake early, too.
Yeah, hey, listen, listen.
Yo Gotti.
Yo Gotti.
Yo Gotti is doing his shit, you know?
I think it might be Yo Gotti.
If it's Yo Gotti is...
ESTG?
The new...
Y'all heard of ESDG?
Oh, Yest TG?
Yeah.
Goddy.
Wow.
Come on, man.
He don't get the credit, though.
Yeah, we should...
You know, like, one thing I respect about Gadi is, like, it's not always about
you seeing it.
It's always about the work.
Like, I had a lot of conversations with Gadi and worked on projects with Gadi,
and, you know, and he just wants the music to cut through.
Like, that's the most important thing with Gadi.
Like, if the music cut through, we get the visuals.
do this like i'm not worried about getting the fame from you i already got the fame for myself like
yeah i want to help he helped push all his artists to get there like and he takes time with each one
it's like he ain't putting out 10 albums in one month like he's taking time with each artist to
help make them get to that next level like you know godi and and gucci man like i feel like right now
like yeah yeah yeah because Gucci did what young thug young thug pee go away pee we long way megos
He goes fucking crazy.
What else did he have?
We need the artist A&R verses.
Oh, yeah.
Not for real.
Yeah, but yeah.
Future?
Yeah, future.
Yeah, he was super early with future.
Then you know with that you also got Waka.
So, you know, you got Southside.
You got MJ the Juice Man.
You got all that.
You got all that.
You got them too.
You know, don't count them out.
Don't count Sunny out.
Like, they all came from the same tree.
They all came from that same energy.
So it's just like, yeah.
Might be Gucci.
Oh, they don't know.
For sure.
You gotty.
You know, that's the plan.
I'm trying to do the same shit like that in with the city.
You know?
That's why everybody, like, everybody know, like, you know,
I might tap in with you early, might tap in with you late, but I'm going to tap in.
What's some songs or projects that you might have worked on that we don't know about that was like done on a law?
That you could talk about.
You know, some shit.
Well, no, not stuff that's not out yet, but just like to let the people know, like things that you've worked on in the past.
Whether it was albums like that, you know, Moneybag, Moneybag's first album.
Yeah, I worked up, I worked with Moneybag up to a few months ago.
Shout out my girl, Bearline.
She over there take handling the shit at the scope right now.
She has it now.
Yeah, you know, it's crazy.
Like one of the first records I ever worked on at Interscope was with mustard and YG and fucking Fergus.
LA Love.
That was like, that was dope.
That was really dope.
Fergie and Mustard and Joe.
I think I remember that song.
Yeah.
And then it was like getting YG on the remix and everything like that.
It was dope.
And that was like something dope for me first coming into the game.
But yeah, it's a lot of things, but you know, I don't really like to push or talk about certain things.
Like if people know, they know.
But if not, like, that's not the reason why I'm doing it.
Yeah.
I think that's my phone.
I'm sorry, y'all.
You're good.
yeah um yeah no i mean we just want to know because we want to like why did we all look
i don't know we just we just want to inform the audience and you'd be like oh shit i didn't know
push it did this or push like i mean in 10 years when they pull up this interview they'd be like
dang he did that yeah like yeah was there any like popular i guess like yg records or mustard
records i mean i'm sure you're you're involved in like the day to day of both of them so like
Was there any like plays that you made on one song I'm sure we all love you know
I mean that you can share recently whatever no literally like throwback whatever yeah moonwalking
calabasses oh shit that's hard I fuck with DDG um I started fucking with DDG a few months ago
they uh he came to me actually him and YG did another record for his project and it me and
DDG just was building like he a good he a good nigga like at then day like whether you from the
streets or whether you from wherever you from like you're a good nigga like that's all that matters
with me and you feel me like and just coming about but you know it's a lot of other things that happen
to help push that together behind the scenes off my shit yeah i don't i didn't really know who ddg was
until that song and i'm like oh this shit is banging yeah oh i swear to god and it's hard for like
YouTubers to be able to transition yeah he did it yeah he's not that's a good record
anybody anybody in here right now who still considered ddg a YouTuber you yeah you need to
to wake up. He's not a YouTube anymore.
Yeah, he transitioned. Yeah, he's a rapper.
That shit is hard. Blueface and DDG
with the DMB.
Whatever it's like. I can't wait to, if the clubs
open up and I can finally play it in the club, man.
Yeah. That shit is hard.
Yeah. Did you guys hear
Cardi B's up?
The new shit? Yeah.
What'd you guys think? It's up.
You know, you know, she's a woo.
You know?
That's all my real whoopers out there.
What do you do?
think about it, Gina? I fuck with it. I didn't like that. I kind of felt like the backlash out.
Yeah. Overshadowed the song. I thought it was a great song. It was an amazing video.
Yeah. I feel like she don't miss as far visually, you know. So, yeah, I didn't, I didn't really
like the whole backlash. And I honestly didn't think it was a... It was a reach, you know?
I thought it was a reach. So if people don't know, the backlash was basically that there's a artist
named Mir Fontaine who had a song called Stuck and the chorus was very similar like I mean same
words right a little bit of different cadence and a lot slower um but people were saying that she
basically stole that hook put it on her shit and basically just trying to vilify her in general then
they were saying she stole sweetie's catchphrase and i'm just like yo like you love you guys love to
tear people down after you built them the fuck up yeah y'all built her up off a call that black song
Yeah, don't forget that.
Like, let's just be fucking realistic.
If she did it again, why not?
Like, it worked the first time.
And I don't even think she's doing it right now.
No, I don't think so either.
That up and stuck shit, that's a phrase.
That's something people say.
We just heard blasts.
If it's up, then it's stuck and it's like that.
Like, it's just a fucking phrase that people are saying.
And the artists are rapping about it.
Exactly.
I just don't think that it was a fucking reach.
For sure.
But she's like at a point of career where she's like at the top.
So people are just trying to bring around for any fucking reason.
And I feel like that wasn't even like legit at all.
People chase the clout more and they chase the bag.
Man, talk about it.
Talk about it.
Shock to that.
You got some both?
You know, yes.
Here, no, I got you.
I didn't touch this one yet.
I'm a tequila, man.
I ain't going to lie to y'all, man.
I do this on a day.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Cheers.
You can't cheer that water or that in beer.
Keep that right there.
Wait, why do you call Trilly's Bitch Beer?
Ah, shit.
So look, she was funny, man.
Well, it ain't really because of the Trilly.
It's because of the White Claw.
You know how they got, like, the bigger White Claw?
I was at this party, and I seen a bad girl.
And then I seen it from the side, but then she turned, she was walking,
and she had a white Claw in a brown bag, like a fall.
And I'm like, is that a bitch with a beer?
So you know, like she walked around for a minute and like I'm an idiot.
So you know, I keep asking the homie day, bro, hey, that bitch got a beer?
I'm not tripping.
So the homie's sike her ass.
So, blah, Paru, go ax her.
So, nigga, all right, nigga, I'll go ask her.
No, this is a white cloth.
I said, but why you got that bag like that?
How big is it?
Like an Arizona big?
Yes.
It's like, it's like a 24.
Like an OE or something.
Like some mold liquor.
Like a butt in the bag.
Like, if she's just walking around like this, like, you know, that's a bitch with a beer.
Yo, they drink them shits all the time.
And, you know, I walk in the studio, it's a gang of cans, a bitch beer.
You know, that's the way.
That's what I call him.
You know, no disrespect to nobody out there.
You know, listen.
He's not getting a white claw endorsement.
It used to be white claw now.
It's like the truly lemonade.
Everybody's on that shit.
They don't get an email.
This is a push-it-rod for a friend of a friend.
We like you guys to sponsor my party.
Oh, the bitch beer?
Listen.
If y'all bring the beer, you know what I'm going to bring.
The bitches?
The bitches.
You guys going to fuck the game up if it truly decides to put it in 40 bottles.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my goodness.
Yo.
Lokey like Sprite.
Listen.
You might be honest.
Yeah, you just probably helped them make like 20 million.
And we might want to pick this part up.
Hey, we need to quit playing because Doritos got this fucked up.
Doritos owes us a bag.
Yeah.
And not a Doritos.
Not a Dorado bag.
Yeah, exactly.
Or extra large one or fantastic.
That's a lot of extra large one.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
All right, go ahead.
Wait, so I'd explain the chip thing or the whole thing.
The whole thing.
Go back to AD and everything, yeah.
Okay, so we was having a conversation one day.
Yeah.
And the conversation was about a guy trying to talk to a girl,
and the girl don't want to talk to you or she, you know, curve you or whatever.
And then you be like, all right, well, I'm going to fuck with your home girl.
Right.
So they asked me, you know, do I feel like that's thirsty?
Yeah, it's thirsty as foot.
Do you?
Yeah.
So.
So AD brought up, he was on an episode with us, he brought up, if you go to the store
and you wanted to buy nacho cheese Doritos, but they don't have any, and you go to, you get cool ranch, is that thirsty?
Or are you just going to go to a different store and look for the nacho cheese?
Can I plead the fifth?
Come on, man.
I'm not like, shit.
You know what's girl?
I ain't going to lie to you.
You know, I didn't talk to some girls.
And then, but they wasn't right.
Like, you can start talking to somebody and like, damn, I picked the wrong friend.
All the time.
It's the wrong one.
Why I picked the one with no job?
You played the head.
He picked the one below creditors.
She was cute.
Her assless face.
I found out she sleep on the couch.
I work hard.
You feel me?
You should work hard too.
You feel me?
Yeah.
So, like, damn.
But I probably accidentally went for the friend who got the curly hair first
or the friend with the bigger booty first and find out that, yeah,
your roommate or she's sleeping on your couch.
He's like, damn, well, shit, can I get you?
Can I get a circle back?
I made a mistake.
Yeah, like, shit.
Y'all got, you know, like this, and I'm going to just say this in real shit,
like a guy, right?
When you look at a guy, you pay attention to everything on him.
from the shoes to the pants to the jury like if his diamonds ain't i-a-a-a-a-a if his swag ain't i-a-a-i if his
iPhone is cracked you ain't gonna give him the time of the day right right but then we talk to y'all
like and it's like if you pretty you can look pretty for $10, $20 like you can really go spend
$20 at 20 forever 21 and go to the club looking like a million bucks I got to go spend two grand
to look like that.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's like, why?
You know you picked the right decision
could look at me.
But, nigga, I fucked up
because I'm looking at you.
I didn't do no research.
Let me do my research first.
That's why I just be trying to be friends
with everybody.
Let me be friends with the whole crew.
See, now when you break it down like that,
it kind of make a little bit more sense
because they didn't break it down like that.
They were just like, oh, you don't talk to me?
What's that with your friend?
Yeah.
What's wrong with that, though?
That's different.
How's that different?
Like I said, I was telling him how like,
because he got a reason.
No, but look, you can't decline.
me for your entire friend group.
How's that fair? How's that fair?
It's not. It don't have to be fair.
It's a double standard.
No.
It don't have to be fair
because it's a lot of fucking double standards
that's not fair for females but it's fair for dudes
and this is one that's in perverse.
Wow.
And that's it. I'm never going to agree with you.
As she sips.
Yeah. As you said.
My bitch beer.
Listen, I might have to
get a little, get a little,
how to start my own company.
Bitch beers, huh?
No, you're sure.
Come home at me, you know.
Let's get in these urban stores.
Let's get in these urban stores, you know?
Now you want to rename it, though.
I don't know if that could go global.
Shit.
You know the one to be like, I'm a bad bitch, yeah.
She don't want to drink it.
That's how I'm marketing.
That's my commercial.
This is for the bad bitch.
What's that commercial?
The hot sauce commercial,
they'd be like, I'll put that beep on everything.
Oh, yeah.
Like, beep beer.
You can do beat beer or you can do bits beer
So it's like marketable
I feel that
Bish. So you guys still having a 7-11
Bish beer, Bish beer
Bish beer.
Oh, M-G!
Bish beer.
All right, well, don't forget.
5% for everybody at the take.
All right, it's truly come out of it.
It's on camera.
It's on camera.
Oh shit.
Did you guys see that
billboard list of top emerging artist
from L.A.?
Yeah.
You saw it?
the 15.
I saw it and I interview 80% of them before they was anybody.
Talk about it.
Talk about it.
Because I got a good ear for music.
That's fucking right.
Yeah, because that's what I did.
They ain't knowing the making.
What's up?
What's that?
Y'all hiring.
See over here, 400 records.
What's that?
Give me in the 400 door.
What is your title at 400?
I'm a professional homie.
I do a little bit of everything.
I saw you say that before.
I'm YG right hand.
So you know.
know like but i feel like i feel like that doesn't do you justice though but it do because why
why do you have to box me in why do i need a title because i'm i'm graded everything i do anything i do
i try to push the limit like when back in the day like if it was a party i threw a party if it was
flyers i passed out flyers you're not going to call me the flyer boy if it was selling merch i sold
merch you're not going to call me the merch man yeah so it's like i really fuck with the professional
homie title even with me starting my own situation and having my own artist like i don't want him to
look at me just like his manager like i'm his professional homie like because it's like even when it's
not about the business i'm gonna help you with the other shit even if it's about your personal shit
like i'm your homie but professionally i'm tied in with you too like how jiji said ct is corporate
thugging you know like that's my version of it i'm a professional homie because i help with the whole
360 not just one part one aspect and I don't I don't mind doing anything yeah when you break it down
like that it makes a lot of sense yeah appreciate it that that's dope that's a dope that's a dope
type you've been a little modest so you larger than that on some real shit it's not it's not
I really believe it's not about it's not about that like what people see they see if people
respect it they respect it if they don't they don't if they know they know but I'm not doing nothing
for the next person
judgment or for the next person
to box me in anything because
I'm gonna do whatever I want
I only got one life to live
like so shit if I want to sell
eyelashes tomorrow shit I'm gonna go
find me a girl and make her eye lash
generalize me to just one title
yeah I'm not
Renaissance man you know Jack of all trades
I'm gonna get them millions
17 hats period
you know how Diddy do it
yeah how baby do it yeah
let's talk about that I'm glad you brought up
Diddy because at the very like let's go way back to the beginning of Pushers you know I feel like
the history of it isn't as documented as it should in LA everybody kind of knows and someone knows
the story but how did pushes start how did you meet mustard how did you meet YG um pushers actually
started like with YG PC Ace and Rubeboy like having a discussion figure out how to push the music and
how to get more exposure the correct way.
I actually wasn't at the very peak creation of pushes.
I came in like around like the first, second year,
but I wasn't there at the beginning.
Like, it was already created by them.
And shout out to PC, you know, free to homie.
Free PC.
You know, very important.
It's a lot of shit that goes on in L.A.
And PC's overlooked or forgot about,
but it's a lot of music that's happening right now.
And if it wasn't for him,
niggas wouldn't be doing it.
Facts.
You know?
So, yeah, free PC to he home,
and then we're going to say it backwards.
Facts.
But, yeah, back to it.
And as far as me, like, I was hustling.
Like, I knew YG from childhood.
Like, I met YG probably, like, around, like, 12.
Okay.
We got mutual family.
We're not particularly related,
but we got, like, mutual family and shit like that.
And, like, all our family used to play football at this park.
and he used to be at the park too I used to play he used to be in so much trouble that he didn't
his mom didn't let him play in shit but yeah that's how niggas first connected back then um
and then I connected with mustard uh like around like 16 six like 15 probably yeah like 16 um mustard
was the highest DJ in LA like I'm from the east side I grew up like off of 77 and between
main and Broadway y'all know where that's at um and I went to Fremont but muster went to dorsey and
And, like, must have used to DJ at Fremont while he's in high school.
He should be at school.
Like, he's probably, I'm like 15.
He's probably, I'm like 14, 50.
He's like 15, 16.
But instead of DJing at school, he's at my school, DJing half times and shit like that.
He doesn't help his fun.
Yeah.
And then I have an older cousin named Wiz Kid.
Whiz kid, Twan, and Casey used to throw parties.
And I used to throw parties on the East Side, but Wiz wanted to help me, like, actually get more into it.
So, and that's when he had.
level 10. I didn't know y'all's related. Yeah. Whiz my big cousin. Shout out Whiz, shout out
Wisha, you feel? He responsible for a lot of stuff too. Exactly. He's one of the niggas who really
like pushed me from being in the streets because like, nigger, I'm gonna make money
however I can make it. And he showed me like, yeah, you can really make money in parties.
And I just have parties in your hood. You feel me? And then yeah, I was in high school. I was
going to Westchester and niggas was throwing parties and Wizz got me more involved. And then
that's what I was doing.
I was throwing the parties.
And the parties I was doing,
a lot of people got like their first shows,
like the pink dollars,
the vixians.
So this is during the whole jerking era.
Yeah, like doing the jerking area,
anybody used to come to a party at the jerking area.
They know I used to be at the front door.
Me or Casey,
and if I'm at the front door, I'm tripping.
You also was dropping off tickets and shit to schools and stuff.
Dropping off, like, that was my hustle.
Like, Wiz showed me, like, you can make money, like,
outside other shit.
So that's what I was doing.
And from there, Big B actually connected us, rest in peace, Big B,
brought everybody back in full circle and around.
Like, Big B is tied, big homie, one of Mustard big homie, one of my big homies, one of YG's big homies.
But he showed us all infrastructure and how to come together and figure out shit.
But then, you know, at one point, we was all living at YG house, like, for like a year.
First we were living at Ace House.
Like, it was like 15 of us living in a two bear.
him thugging it like figuring it out and then YG got his deal and then he got he moved his mom and
they got a house in Inglewood and then fuck it ace end up we end up losing the house we was at because
we was kids we didn't have no business having to crib and so at that point we all moved in YG
house and yeah the rest is history like I didn't like I didn't come in to be coming to A&R like yeah
I knew one day I was going to be an R like I became a A&R like I became
at an R by actually just sitting in the room like quiet in the back like mustard and YG created
magic and I just saw it happen and I would ask questions and it's going for asking the wrong questions
to figuring out how to ask the right questions and moving around with your homies and understanding how
other shit move and understanding how to bring other people in the situation or if you think somebody
else is tight ask your homie like oh would you fuck with this person or would you do this or yeah and
And then it's like, damn, I fuck with this.
Like, this is something I can really see myself doing.
Did you know you was doing A&R shit?
No.
The person who told me I was doing A&R shit was Sycamore.
Shout out Sycamore.
He's at Interscope.
Fire.
He's the creative director at Interscope.
He created his own title, bullshit, you know.
He's the one who, A&R.
YG is My Crazy Life.
So, classic album.
At that time, we had moved to Atlanta because YG was fucking with GZ and CTE.
And that's where YG was working.
on his first album and sycamore was his a and r and i was having conversations i was like helping
with shit and talking with sycamore like about shit from back in the day and things was happening
and i remember one time he came to a show this like when uh club nokea i mean i know kea damn what's
the shit it's where um the key club oh the key club key club so yg had the key club and
sycamore was coming to me y g at um sound check but at that time like
Like, I used to do YG sound checks.
So, like, I'm there, like, with the, we getting everything together.
And Sycamore came and seen it.
And then after that, like, me and him had a real talk.
And then fast forward, we in Atlanta.
And then, like, just helping, like, and telling him stories, like, about back in the day and what was going on.
Like, and he's like, yeah, you know what you're doing today.
And I'm like, nah, nigger, I just thought I was a real homie.
Because one thing I'm never going to do is lie to my homies.
Like, well, you know, like, I haven't had periods.
times where shit then got weird or whatever like it niggas then grew past that but it's like as far
like the music or business or anything like that never going to lie to my homies like for their best
interest you're not nobody else man exactly yeah and that pushed me into being an r and at the time
joey i.e he was running dev jam and he was around he seen me move around with yg and sycamore and
everything like that and he ended up going he left dev jam and went to interscope and
Joey I is responsible for bringing me to the scope and changing my situation and giving me the opportunity to pursue my dreams in my career as an R.
So shout out to Joey for helping me lead that way, you know?
Yeah.
Wow.
That's super dope.
That's really a story of like when you are a real homie and you stay down and you do a bunch of real shit and you hustle the entire time, it pays off.
Like I had like my first job I worked at Target for like a week, right?
And I got I got fired for, I was a cashier.
But it was like raining and some people weren't there.
And I had on like cargo shorts and nigga the manager asked me to go get the carts from outside.
And I'm like, I'm a cashier.
Like, well, I need you to get off this cashier.
Go get them cards.
I'm like, nigga, shit.
No.
And it's like, what, you either going to do it or you can leave.
I said, well, come see me.
side.
You told him to come see you.
And then, yeah, I tried to fight them.
And then, yeah, security at Target.
Like, yeah.
Not, it was actually, uh,
120th?
No, it was in fucking Culver City off of,
Jefferson.
Oh.
Before there was at Fox Hills.
Before Fox Hills.
Yeah, this was like 06,
07.
I was like 15.
Yeah.
And Target was a job that everybody
wants to work at, though.
Yeah.
I mean shit.
Hell yeah.
Cackies in a red shirt, I already wore that.
Already had that!
That's the uniform on the daily anyway.
But yeah, so then after that, like, I never had, I never, I would, I told myself I would never work a job.
I would never work for somebody who can dictate my time like that.
And I would try, I would figure it out and I hustle.
And then from there, like, my first job, my first real job was YG's tour manager.
That was the first time somebody paid me to do something and it's like, n' name.
Like, niggia, I'm already the homie.
And I'm already, I am the asshole, homie out of the crew.
Like, the niggas, no, I'm the asshole, homie.
And I don't got a problem with saying anything to anybody.
So, yeah, being a tour manager is the perfect thing for me.
Oh, yeah.
Everybody got to wake up.
You got to be the babysitter down here.
So, you know, but that also showed me a lot of responsibility because I was 19.
Being a tour manager, we on a, we on a bus that fits 12, but we got 22 people in there.
And I'm getting all 22 people up every day.
Damn.
Like no matter what, like, nigga, because the show must go on.
And from there, yeah.
It's like, yeah, that's when I knew, like, yeah, I'm going to figure this shit out.
Yeah, because you were like, yeah, I'm getting paid to do this shit.
You know?
And I'm still with my homies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the type of shit that make you like.
And that's like, even now, like, any artists I sign, like, I don't give a fuck how far you is, what biggest single you than have.
I don't care about that.
If I can't vibe with you and sit in the studio with you
and understand you and help you as an artist,
there's no point of me signing you
and being your A&R because I'm not going to help you
if I'm just sitting there.
As an A&R, I'm supposed to help you understand yourself more.
And a lot of artists who get bigheaded
don't really understand that.
You're supposed to be vulnerable with your A&R
because that's when you're going to help you get the best music out.
But as an A&R, you're supposed to understand
how to get to somebody.
vulnerable state without like offending them yeah ask those questions you know when you're in the
studio exactly it's about the music because nigger i don't like you can go in the studio and talk about
your chains and your jury every day and niggas don't give a fuck like those songs will come and go
a million of those songs come and go but when you getting there and you talk that real shit
talk about what you've been through what you're going through what your family been through
would hurt you what you've seen through your eyes that's a real hit you know
going in there with every artist looking for that every time. Nothing else. Yeah.
That's facts. I think, and I think for all the reasons you said is why we all love, you know,
albums that are like really personal people. For example, my crazy life, good kid, mad city,
because they're telling real life stories. And it's like not disposable music, like you said,
that's about today's subject or tomorrow's subject. It's like, no, this shit really happened.
I'm telling a sequential story. You know what I mean? Like the, my crazy life was like,
real shit.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
Even like meet the fluckers.
Meet the Fluckers.
Meet the Fluckers is like a real day.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like no matter where you from.
Yeah.
You feel that.
Yeah.
If you've been through something, you feel it.
Like when you know, you know when somebody talking that real shit.
Like I don't go to fuck.
Like it's a, it's a feeling when certain records come on.
It's like, it's why certain niggas like, like Roddy, like Roddy Rich.
Like, nigga, he's talking real shit.
Oh, yeah.
Like, he's supposed to be where he at.
And when you see him record, like, he take time on his music.
He takes time with the, with the songs he put together.
Like, the way he put his album together.
Like, he ain't just, yeah, let me get the best songs and put him together.
He put together an album.
Yeah.
That's why he's where he's at.
And it's like.
He's really expressing himself real pain.
And vulnerable.
Real shit.
Yeah.
Trying to make music, not trying to search for a record.
Like, and it's so important.
Like, like, I respect any artist who's really trying to.
to feed you their pain because we all got pain and you know at the end of day we just all don't know
how to talk about it but when you hear that right record you ain't even got to talk about it because
you feel it like damn I'm going through that too and if I can help an artist get that out to help you
I want you know and that's what I believe is an a NR like it's not just about having the biggest record
on the charts or having the biggest year it's like but now music that means something
music that's going to last.
That's dope as fuck.
Yeah, that's some real shit.
I want to know what y'all think about that list.
The list?
I mean, it was good.
Okay, wait, let me get it.
So at number one, you got Givion, right?
Yeah.
And then, you know, he was able to get global off that Drake shit.
Yeah.
The Drake record, I think it was Chicago freestyle.
And then he went on tour with Snow Allegra.
So he kind of like, you know, was able to kind of go,
quickly with his career.
Yeah.
And at number two, we have Bito or no, Grito?
No, it was Draco.
Oh, wait.
No, no, no, no.
It was Grito.
Hold on.
I'm trying to pull it up or no one second.
Okay.
I thought it was good.
No, but Givion, Givion, well, a lot of people are hating on Givion, but he was able to do a lot of things, like, very quickly, but he was just being in the right pocket.
It's R&B.
It's R&B.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, like, it's hard.
Like, you know, shout out to everybody on that list.
And shout out to everybody who didn't make that list
because just because you didn't make a list,
that don't make you.
But, you know, like, just respect, you know,
like, that's somebody else's opinion.
That don't mean that you any less than you are.
Like, you know, like, they're just going off the brighter view of everything.
They're not going off of just you.
They're going off what things look like to the world.
And you have to understand, like, certain things look bigger to the world
than looks bigger at home.
But that's, that's, that.
That's what that list is based off of.
But it's a lot of people who didn't make that list.
That don't mean that you're less than.
And there's a lot of people that's low on that list.
That don't mean like the next niggas better than you.
It's going to be a million lists that come out.
And if you can't handle yourself for a list, like you can't hold the pressure this game.
Yeah.
I didn't even feel like it was like ranking.
And I think every time a list comes out, that's what people get confused with, especially
Twitter.
Yeah.
People get confused and think that you kind of saying that something is better than, you
know something else all they were saying is these is the artists that are emerging 15 emerging art so
real quick it's give you on it one or i don't know if it's sequentially ranked but look give yon
o three grito drako bino riddow stupid young reason one take j buddy blast kalan ferl for a z chike
blue bucks clan rucci conrad from the abs and g preco oh shit this is a screenshot so i mean it was
It was overall, like, a really good list.
I think they left out...
They definitely left out D3, nigga.
Yeah.
I'm gonna say it just like that.
I don't go, fuck, me.
They left out the little homie Bravo, the Bag Chaser.
Who's killing it with, you know, his streams will surprise you as far as, like,
he's doing a lot better than a lot of other artists in L.A.
And he's about to drop some crazy shit.
They left out Blueface, surprisingly, too.
See, I think Blueface would have made like a 2019, 2018 list if we was talking about.
He's not emerging.
anymore.
Like, but then it's like
You disrespect Buddy
by putting Buddy on that list
because nigga, nigga,
nigga, buddy's a nigga.
Yeah, he's been.
Buddy's on there?
Buddy not,
I don't think Buddy should have been on there.
Buddy's not doing no, like,
Buddy's a real artist.
Anybody who's ever been in the studio
of Buddy, you understand.
Or anybody who's ever been to a buddy show,
you understand.
Putting Buddy on there make me feel like y'all missed
last year or the year before.
But this is what I'm saying, like,
this is somebody's personal opinion.
Like, yeah.
It does, like, everybody, like, I cannot like your shirt.
But that's my opinion.
You wore it.
So, nigga, that don't matter.
Like, I feel like people, like, cool, that's what this person thinks.
But, niggil light still goes on.
Is our, because this is from Billboard, right?
Yep.
In situations like this on lists come out,
is this something that's discussed amongst the one department or something like that?
Or is it just specifically the person who wrote that article?
I don't know.
I mean, from what I, okay, I have some inside information.
So the homie actually published it, but he didn't give his real name.
It was his penknit.
If you wrote the article, just say that.
It wasn't, no, it wasn't me.
It wasn't me.
That would have been dope.
But, no, it wasn't me.
But, like, it's funny because, like, I sent it to, like, this group chat I have
with a few homies.
And then the homies, like, L.O.L.
I wrote that.
And I'm like, what?
Like, it doesn't say your name on it.
All right.
So I don't even want to ask his name, but it's like, is he from L.A.?
Yeah.
Yeah, he's a well-known writer.
So are you going off streams or impact?
That's what I'm saying.
Streams or impact?
How did they?
Can we call him?
How did they?
Can we call it?
To remain anonymous.
No, like, no, real shit.
Like, how do they come up with this?
Like, even is this a ranking?
It's not an alphabetical order.
Like, how is it, are y'all doing it by streams?
Are you doing it by impact?
Yeah.
And what he said, the reason why he didn't want to put his actual name on it was because
he gave the list, but like, Billboard chose the order.
The order.
So it's like at that point it's like yeah because the ranking no matter what if they say this isn't in sequential order the way it looks is still sequential order. You know what I mean? So he was like yeah I don't want all this like backlash and whatever. I mean because that comes with any list because there's always going to be. Any list come with backlash. You know what I mean? So so yeah. So basically I'm not sure exactly what it's based on but it's the top 15 emerging artists out of LA. At first I thought it was like the charts. I thought they were going based off the charts but I'm not sure about that because I feel like.
Yeah, it's your homie
So like, let's just ask bro
Like he's going off a personal opinion
Based off of, either if it's based off of the numbers
Of what he likes
Yeah
Like and that's cool
But you know, like when the next list come out
It's gonna be some other people
And when the next list come out
When pitchfork lists come out
It's gonna be some other people
So it's like you can't really get lost in these lists
Like you just gotta run your race
Like niggas is list stop in your pockets
Exactly
So I have a question for y'all
Oh, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
No, I was going to say at the very bottom I'm reading right now, it says basically this is, this ranking measures activity across key metrics of music consumption for up-and-coming R&B artists in each city, as identified by Billboard editors, National Album Sales, Track Sales, Streaming Totals, and each artist accrued during entry on the Billboard charts.
So it's somewhat, I guess.
Some type of logistics.
Yeah.
So do you guys think
So say let's say I'm a not out of towner
Is this a great list for somebody to go off on
To base LA emergent artists
If y'all look at if we looking at those names
Are they a good representation of what you're hearing
When you're going to parties
I would say this
Like not to cut you off
But it's like if you outside
If you come out here
I know we don't COVID
But niggas be outside
Like what do you hear
When you're in these parties
What do you hear when you at these house parties
with you here like make your judgment
your judgment off of you
don't make your judgment off of
a list written by anybody else
and I feel like in the world
like that's where a lot of people fuck up
like because nigga I don't give a fuck where you rank me
I'm number one of me
yeah you're like what you say
don't like you can rank A&R
like shit I can be number nigga 99
cool I don't give a fuck
you know what I'm saying so it's like
I really feel like
like I hope none of the artists
are taking these numbers personally
like nigger because
as long as you eating you financially
stable your pockets is stable your team
is winning y'all doing productive
shit like
nigga you number one because how many
niggas ain't how many niggas you know that's
rapping or call they sell rappers who still
ain't dropped the mix tape how many niggas you know
be like that niggas week that niggas week
I'm the best rapper alive nigga he's been saying
he's the best rapper for 10 years and
he only dropped one mix tape
like but these people are
all grinding every day.
Yeah.
The funny thing about these lists are just things like that is that, you know,
sometimes one of the artists might feel slighted like, damn, I'm 15 or I'm 14 or
whatever.
But then you think back to like a time when you were like 15 years old and you would
have died to make any spot on the list.
You know what I mean?
Like when people used to not give a fuck.
Well, see, I don't, I didn't look at the list as a top because what was it, top 50?
I didn't look at it as like a top.
This is the best artist coming out of L.A. right now.
looked at it as these are the artists y'all need to be on the lookout for these are the rising stars out of
LA this is the future that we might see on those top 100 billboard charts you know in the days to
come so that's why I was asking y'all do you i think that's a great representation of LA
i think i think it is but also i i feel good about where LA is at right now because if you
think about it that billboard is recognizing 15 and there's probably another 10 that we could put in
there the state of LA is in a pretty good place what other 10 would you
let me see like I mentioned Bravo D3 you got you got DeSoulon who else Petty Petty
you got Petty you got I'm not gonna name 10 but no you go yeah yeah I can't even
yeah but you know what I mean like there's no I get what you are saying because it's like
it's to be able to be able to even have that list and to be able to have that shot there was a
There was a time when L.A. had like four rappers.
Yeah.
I just don't put this list in comparison to the other list that we usually get
where it's like the fucking, what is it that come out every year and they do the cipher?
The hip-hop award?
No, the one, the cover, the freshman.
Oh, the freshman cover.
The freshman cover.
Yeah.
Like that's saying these are the best new artists out.
Yeah.
I feel like this list is just saying, hey, be on the lookout for these people.
And especially these are all people who did make noise 2020.
Yeah.
In 2019.
Kill it.
Yeah.
But yeah.
I don't think they should take this one as like, oh, shit, I didn't make this list.
You know, oh, my God.
Just go harder.
And that's why when I make these like LA leaker playlists and I used to do the one through 10.
But then it's like I really like had an understanding with myself.
I was like, who am I to say that he grounded harder than or he's making more impact?
You know what I mean?
because they're all doing shit.
Yeah.
But they're at the end of the day, they all put it on.
They all put them on for the city, and they found a way to really tap in.
Bro, y'all remember, like, after game era, like, who did we have?
Like, we had, nothing.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I thought.
When you thought about LA, you heard crickets.
Like, what was going on out there?
Cricky?
Mm-hmm.
Like, that's what I'm saying.
And then even after that, like, we had, obviously, like, the whole, like, TDE.
But then there was, like, a stretch where, you know, we had probably.
Problem, AD, RJ, I'm leaving one person.
Joe Moses.
Joe Moses, maybe one other person and like...
Problem.
Problem.
And, like, that's kind of all we had.
Problem.
Oh.
Yeah.
Deep 2B.
Yeah.
Then it's like, you know, it's like, it's like, even when you look at this list,
all right, so it's cool, like, but it's like, all right, cool.
Niggil, West Side Boogie, five.
Yeah.
But see, West Side Boogie would have been on a list like 2017, 2018.
This emerged.
Grito should not be on his list.
Buddy shouldn't be on his list.
Grito and buddies shouldn't be on his list.
You know what I'm saying?
Reason shouldn't be on this list.
Like, just being honest.
They're established.
Like, yeah.
They already established.
That's what I'm saying.
This is all based off a personal opinion.
Because it's like when you really break it down and you really look and it's like, it don't add up.
I would take reason off.
And y'all know reasons.
That's one of my friends.
He's a great fucking artist.
One of my favorite artists in my top five, actually.
but I would have reasoned
did what he had to do already
As far as emerging
I kind of feel like
it's not disrespectful
but it's kind of a knock
He was in a BET
Award cycle
Yeah they should have probably
left out anybody
who dropped the debut album
TDE don't just sign nobody
Yeah
Right right right right
They're vetting process
It's crazy
I will replace
Buddy need to come out
I would take reason out
And they need to put
Bluebucks in there
Blue bucks is in here
Oh Blue bucks is in there
They could put True Car
true cars gas and shit right now.
Yeah, it's just like, it's just, you know, kind of weird
because like I said, it's like...
But shout out to whoever wrote it, you know, like, I respect...
Shout out to Nick.
That was a big.
You know, I'm not Nick Blaine.
I respect you, you know, just, you know, taking the time for the city.
But like you said, it's opinion-based.
Yeah.
So that might be based off of what he listened to him.
Two years ago, we didn't get this.
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
I appreciate whoever did it, you know, it's your personal opinion, but you know,
whoever Nick Blank is, you know?
Yeah.
I just always thought, I never knew that it was based off of like one person's personal opinion.
I'm thinking people was in a boardroom with photos of each artist and they pulling up numbers and shit like that.
I wish they gave the fuck about it later.
That's what I'm not.
It will.
It will for sure.
I will pay you to write this already.
I want your opinion on this, Rod.
Do you feel like, let's say there's an artist that has 100,000 Instagram followers on, yeah, 100,000.
thousand Instagram followers are from New York. You have another artist from L.A. has 200,000
Instagram followers from the West, from L.A., wherever. Do you feel like the industry looks at them as
equal? Or I feel like East Coast artists or New York artists, get the like, oh, he has 100K,
he's next. 200K on the West Coast. They're like, that's a West Coast artist. You know, like,
what is that from like the industry point of view and you being really in the trenches with like
these industry people all the time? I will say, you know, you really have to look at.
like this like you know and it's
it's so fucked up but it goes
it goes really back to our radio
like because we
like
YG's an urban artist right
yep but he's from the west coast
so he's a rhythmic artist
so meaning he had to have a rhythm like he had to be
good enough for rhythmic radio to get on the radio
like so it's like but then you go to
the south or you go to the east coast
like nigg if you hot they play
Yeah, there's not as many restrictions.
Like, like, like, urban radio, like we have, like, and there, they are, like, don't
get me wrong, because there are people here who help break records.
There are people here that's 100% tapped in.
But at the end of the day, the West Coast is rhythmic.
Yeah.
We're not urban.
So it's like, we got to deal with what can be pop friendly and everything first before.
It's like, so that's why a lot of people don't get.
a chance to be on the radio and that's why like things like when power 106 did the um new at two it's
it was so important because that was the only urban hour yeah that was the only hour you heard
artists that only had 20,000 10,000 5,000 followers but their songs were bleeding the streets
on the radio but then when you go to the south nigga if your shit playing in the club it's on
the radio if you go to new york nigga your shit in the club is paying on the radio like yeah i feel
like there's way less politics in other cities.
Because they have urban radio, bro.
We don't like, like, and I ain't no disrespect to 92.3.
I wish Gabe didn't just get up right now.
I don't know.
This is like some radio, yeah.
I definitely don't want 92.3 to feel like I'm saying, like they have helped tremendously
since they have came about here.
Yeah.
Bringing more to the urban because before 92.3, we only had to know it to.
Mm-hmm.
But when you go to the south and when you go to know.
York like bro they playing all that shit they playing all that shit out here you're going to hear
one and then you're going to hear three la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la then you might hear another one then you're
gonna be back to the pop shit like and that's just it's it's crazy bro i got a song from my artist
or from pacman the gunman played in in chicago urban radio power 92 easy
easy bro it was like yo i like that send me the mp3 and it got played that night
like you understand like I was like are you fucking kidding me like it could be this easy
obviously it's not in rotation or anything like that but also there is other records that we've worked
that we can get in rotation in Atlanta you know but not here yeah you know what I mean and it just
must be like that there's way more politics with the radio stations on the inside but that's why
like that's why like you love an artist like like O T because like he's from the West Coast
he's like he bangs the West Coast dominant but you know he's in the big leagues his music you wouldn't
you wouldn't particularly like he's a West Coast artist but he wouldn't particularly categorize his
music like as West Coast music yeah like to a certain degree so it's like it's a little more universal
yeah so he can get a milk like he can be on the radio down south and in New York just like that
but like before out here but then for somebody from out here is like you got to
to do so much or get your songs so big to be on the radio.
Or get like an East Coast artist or a down south artist like Big Bank.
You know what I mean?
It's like you got to play you got to play ball in different elements.
But it's like we got to the place where we understand like what's going on.
Yeah.
But it's like this this shit is like we are urban artists in a rhythmic area.
So it's like how how do you really how do our music really get on the radio?
Yeah, I wish we were gay. He just broke down like the difference between like urban and rhythmic and radio like a lot of people don't know that it's a big difference. Oh, it is. For sure. Yeah, if you could just elaborate on that. And then for like years, years, um, power kind of like stood in the middle. It was like in the middle of rhythmic and middle of urban. And it was like, um, he man tried his pets like, you know, like he tried his, I fuck with E. And that was one of my mentors. And that's my. That's my. That's my.
I always like never really understood.
I was like how could a song be urban and how can like why can't it be on both or you know what
I mean?
And then it was just more of like being able to kind of like cater to the mass of that
community or that.
Like for us for a while like you knew somebody was about to get to that next level
when they song hit the new at two.
Yep.
Like if you was on the new it too like nigga you're about to be in Airy Club.
Like, you did it.
Yeah.
But it's like, when you go down south, like, fuck the new it too.
Their music is playing all day.
Yeah, yeah.
When you go to New York, like, their music is playing all day.
Like, I can hear six new New York artists that I'd never heard of.
And that helps the casual fan.
Yeah, when I went to New York, 2019 July, they're playing POS Smoke already.
Yep.
They're playing Welcome to the Party.
That was early.
Like, that was pretty early.
And that's the thing with L.A. radio, it's so hard for you to be able to have that pocket to play new music.
because they need to play a certain program.
You know what I mean?
So then with the new A-Rhythmic,
it's like I give you a whole hour,
two to three,
to play brand-new music,
but everything else is going to be like
whatever is mainstream.
But that's how it's always been.
You know what I mean?
So then like, like even with like Tutank boot it,
like when you heard that song on the new at two,
even if it was like a year and a half after,
like all the time.
Listen, that's what you know.
We did.
We did all the games.
We ran all the basketball.
We did with Amazon food.
We really, like, at that stage, and it's like, even back then, it's like, like, people don't even realize, like, too did and booted, like, people called in to power so much for Tootid and Bootid.
The streets was mad that Tootid and Bootid wasn't on the radio.
Oh, yeah.
So it's like, that really helped, like, so that really helped the whole new at two time and really helped.
Like, it's like, shit, we just got to dedicate time to the shit.
Because if y'all don't, niggas, it's tripping
And niggas, they stop just calling
Niggas, niggas, if y'all don't play this,
We're coming.
Knock, knock, knock.
That's right.
They're so particular of who they put on
the new at two that you need different elements.
You need to see YG at schools
like really have all the kids
singing word for word for them to be like,
oh shit, maybe I should give them a slot.
And then when you get that rolling
It's like, oh shit.
Shout out to Gabe for doing the new at night back there.
Yeah, thank you.
That was new at night with the L.A. Lakers
It's like, is one of the biggest moments for me because that's the new et too.
And that's how I grew up.
You know what I mean?
And that's when I started hearing like cold flames, everything.
Yeah.
Justin's still in it.
Is Justin still doing it?
Justin's still doing it.
Shower milk, my brothers.
Yep.
I don't just want to say them DJs.
I know them as my friends.
Every time I asked them to pull up, they pulled up.
Every time I asked them their opinion on records, they gave me their opinions.
Anytime, anything for mustard NYG, like, Thai, they were there.
Like, you feel?
It's like, that's some of the shit you're going to remember.
in 10, 20, 30 years
like, niggas when niggas is old.
Like, yeah.
And I studied their blueprint.
They put me on.
They gave me that rope when I was at Youngen
and they was like, this is how you really do it.
Like, fuck all the industry shit.
Fuck all that.
Other shit.
Like, you got to do it from the ground up.
You got to tap in when you see them and see whatever you can do
and build those bricks.
Build that foundation.
Really organic.
And one thing I fuck with Jess.
One thing I fucked about Jess is like when he didn't hear from you for a while,
he gonna text you like yo
what's up y'all got new music
like what's up
what y'all doing and you know
charisma too like head too
like they just
like they cared
yeah and everyone you just mentioned
those are the people that are really like building
that foundation for LA and giving them
that leg up because it's really easy
to be overshadowed and like no we're just going to fuck with
the people from the south I know they're for show
in the meetings tripping like yeah
I know heading they're tripping
Head and Chuck are doing something right now where they're featuring new artists on the radio every night around nine.
Shout out to them.
They just played Cold Piece by Griff Tyler.
Shout out Griff.
They did Key Riches.
Key Riches.
They did, what's his name?
Bell.
Bell.
Yeah.
Bail.
Yeah, Bail, UTL.
They did Cypress and Kail.
I think that's probably the first song they did when they first started the show.
The Call Me record?
Call Me.
And yeah, they've been, they have been, I've seen it.
They've been sneaking it in.
I know they fought for that.
I know that wasn't easy to get at all.
You have to push the narrative because like they know like you go like when I first
start going to Atlanta when I first start going to Atlanta like niggies to be down there
like damn.
These niggins don't even look like they pop and they on the radio like.
Yeah.
And then you at home and you doing so much like nigger as soon as the radio say, say we're there.
We're doing this.
We're doing this.
And not like it was an issue to do it because like at the end of day.
we understand the reasons why we were doing it but on the other side of the world man it's
yeah it's a little different yeah it's a lot different and you know and it's no disrespect like that's how they got
to get it you know and we got to get it the way we got to get it that's just how the cards were dealt
you know but you can't bitch about it yeah but that's one thing i understood working with radio for like
seven plus years it's very commercial it's like it's like they barely have that window of opportunity for
city you know what I mean so then they
try to fit them in different pockets
you know what I mean but that's why I was just always
crashing my head I was like they right here
they're killing all the house parties
you go to the south though and it's like
yo you're on air right now
but you're in the strip club
you're on air right now in the strip club
and if the rapper walk in he's throwing
enough money shit he's about to be on air
because he that's hard like but we
we don't we don't have that
you know and it's you know it can
it can be created like don't get me wrong
but you know it just has to we have to figure out a way for the infrastructure to appreciate our
homegrown artists a little more like they they do it a lot more than they did 10 years ago so
it's respect but it's like we have to cater to home before we cater to everybody elsewhere because
it's like the niggas from home is the ones who's gonna make sure that we all straight because
this is home yeah that's just how i feel you know not big facts well i think head
and Chuck putting the city on their back.
For sure.
Because his head don't give a fuck.
Yeah.
Like I said, I know he in the meeting's tripping.
Yeah.
I know he'd be tripping.
You know, it's crazy.
And I know he'd be tripping and I just know.
Ain't nobody about this hate nothing.
At all, yeah.
What?
And they didn't talk, they saw genuine.
They whole brand come from home.
Like how you just said, you gotta care about your homegrown artists.
That's their brand.
It's homegrown radio.
So, yeah.
They definitely put it on for us.
And they give a fuck a lot.
They care about us a lot and they're real fans of the music that our local artist is putting up.
I use them as like blueprint because they came from the same city.
We went to the same school, middle school, high school, all that shit.
So then when I saw them doing homegrown radio, I was like, damn, you really put it on for the city.
Like, I just want to be able to do exactly what you're doing because you're inspiring the city right now.
Like before that, yeah, Carson, California, right next to Delammo, right next to Carson, I mean, Compton, right next to Long Beach.
So it's like it's a small pocket where it's like they were able to build forces together and build it, build an empire for the city, from the city for the city.
Yep.
And that's exactly what I was doing.
I tell them all the time.
I'm like, damn, the way you're honest with these artists, if you ain't fucking with it, you tell them straight up.
But if you fuck it with it, you're riding with it.
You're in these meetings just like going against every other record that the label is bringing against you and say, nah.
But what about this?
Yep.
Play this one though.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Fuck with that.
You know?
And it's like, yeah, that's what, like, people like that, bro, like, more shout out to them.
Like, we're going to push the narrative and help create, like, that avenue so we can really champion our artists.
Because it's crazy.
You see a lot of shit that's crazy.
But it's like, even that list, like, it's cool.
Oh, my bad.
Like, even that list is cool, but, you know, that's somebody's personal opinion.
But, you know, it's, like, heads tapped in with.
way more people you tapped in way more people you tapped in with way more people so like
I wonder what your list look like I wonder what your list look like if you had like
like like you had an option what your list look like you know that you know that you know
that's what it's about but it's all personal opinions yeah speaking of that if there was
if they were to do a versus right now with artists from LA which two artists would you pick
to do a versus you talk on OGs you're talking new
New school.
New school.
New school.
New school.
Not new, though.
Like, like, season.
Like, come on.
Like, your, your generation.
Last 10 years.
Who you came up with type of.
That's 10 years?
Because we got ours.
Yeah.
We're going to tell you ours after.
I know what y'all's is.
What?
Yeah.
You said, yeah.
No, you all got different ones.
No, y'all got the same one.
Who you think artists?
No, no, no, no.
But, um, I mean, shit.
All right, so like.
What type of music?
What versions do you want to see from LA?
Anything, LA.
Because, okay, because they did the truth.
This is the truth right here, right?
And then it's like, this is the truth, right?
What you think about LA, right?
Anything about, like, my generation,
there's only a couple of people who really, really, really pushed the envelope.
Like, if it was producers, muster will win.
He can't go verse nobody.
You know?
So then, like, all right, cool.
You probably go with Dre.
At this point, yeah.
That's still not.
Bro, you can't do that.
How are you going to do Mustard and Dre?
No, I'm just saying that his catalog is so high up there for this generation.
And that's not, that's no dish, again.
Let me, I'm going to keep saying.
No, this respect to nobody, nobody getting y'all.
Now, now you got to say respect.
Respectfully.
Respectfully.
Oh, respectfully.
Mustardin did his shit.
And he is that one.
Yeah.
You feel me?
But then it's like at the same time, though, like, sounds who work with Kendrick, he's amazing.
But, like, it's like, mustard is mustard.
Like he created like the whole
Yeah, but there's a gang of other niggas that's amazing
Like Terrence Martin is amazing
You know like, like nigger Rance is amazing
Brody is amazing
But like
Like everybody's in their own pocket
But it's like yo Brody's from LA
But do you realize that he do all Bruno Mars music
Push your ride
You gonna make me see our government
What LA versus do you want to see?
Yeah, you ain't gonna come up here
Going to answer out of the question
Nick
What L.A. versus do you want to
to see.
Nah, but, you know, listen.
I loved how the Bay did E-40 and Too Short.
That was incredible.
I mean, so if it's a full turn-up,
yeah.
If it's a turn-up, it's only YG and Tiger.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what we need to see.
Y'all, y'all baited me into that.
No, we did it.
But that's, but, nigga, those are both homies and they both make turn up music,
but then it's like cool.
It doesn't have to be a winner.
But then it's like, nigga, if it's about really rapping.
like nigga you go you know
yeah
who you go
where do we go
Nick it's on TD's
Kendrick and schoolboy you do a verse
That would be fine
That's a rapping
That's a no
Or you go Kendrick and nip
Them two niggins who really rap
But you don't
Kendrick and gang
No
Like nigga no
Like nigga no disrey
I don't know
Game said
What did Game say in Game said
Nobody from Compton can outrap him
Listen listen listen
Listen you know
I'm a
Game
had his time
he had his time
and I'm gonna just say that like that
like you know
like you know
I'm gonna say it's close between Kendrick and Boogie
personally
Boogie can wrap
Boogie can wrap his ass off but
I'm saying it's close
Like but what you mean like close like
Like the Clippers almost made it to play the Lakers
Nah
Nah no no no no no
Miggick but Boogie the homie like
I fuck with Boogie
Buggie ain't the Clippers though
Yeah, like, we ain't gonna just look at that.
Boogie ain't clippers on, niggins.
Like, yeah, I don't know.
Like, if Kendrick's the Laker, then...
Then Boogie in another state, then.
It's like, that...
The boogie must be the motherfucking Dodgers then or something.
But it's like, Boogie can really rap.
I'm just saying bar for bar, like, let's say...
No, but you can't say that, because Kendrick, bar for bar, put itself in a different category.
And, nigg, Kendrick, bar for bar, then put a song in diss, nigga, the whole industry.
And nobody said shit.
people might have said shit but nobody could say enough everybody everybody everybody
took that one on the chin because nigga you can't nigga I'm just saying if we if we have them
like both freestyle to like the same beat I'm pro I was you know what's crazy I
I would say you know I would say like boogie and ransom or like fucking uh
Damn.
Buggy and Reason?
I mean,
booge, no.
Who.
Boogie and Reason, yeah.
Or.
Hoo!
You're talking spicy.
You know, like, that's, that's, that's, that's fair.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or, motherfucking.
That would be a good versus.
Well, who you got?
Buggy and Reason.
I don't want, I try to start nothing.
Y'all both the homies, you know.
I'm a Shainer as a TD.
I'm going to throw.
So you're a little buggy.
I'm going to go woo.
Okay.
All way.
All way.
All way, great.
Who you got big?
But you're a reason.
I plead the fifth.
No.
You started this, bro.
You started it.
Damn.
That is like, I'm putting the, listen.
I didn't put none of the homies on each other.
He did it.
It was me.
Damn.
Bro, that's hard.
That's hard.
If you, like, put a gun to my head, then I would say, I'll probably say reason.
I'm going with reason, too.
Because I've seen the L.A.
Leakers freestyle.
Yeah.
And Boogie's the fucking homie.
I swear to God.
I love Boogie, but.
I don't know.
We might have just started something.
Hey, listen.
I'm about to put him in a group chat right now.
Listen.
Hey, listen.
The next friend of a friend that I'm doing, I'm trying to host a rap battle in the middle, you know.
And I would like both of these fellas to rap.
I mean, come on.
That was so.
You feel?
You feel me?
Y'all are both my friends.
Come on.
I'm calling y'all out on here.
Okay.
So that's what we want.
The next friend of a friend, we want to see some battle rap.
Yeah.
y'all gonna be right there
oh i'm gonna be right there who am i'm gonna be the judges
y'all gonna be the judges yeah oh yeah yeah say less
we're there
don't play with us hey buggy
hey buggy
who's battling absoul
absole
absoles in his own league
because absoles
he's top he's top for me
damn
yeah there's yeah there's so much talent
yeah
cause too cosca wrap his ass off
that's a good one
causing an asshole?
Yeah
Yeah
I ain't mad at that
You just have to print out the lyrics
That shit just go over your head for days
For sure
Oh shit
This is the same word
It's the same word
Spell backwards
Enough for this professional shit
What ghetto shit happened this week?
What's that with the ghetto?
The ghetto shit
What's some ghetto shit that happened?
I mean I guess
The Tray songs shit
You want to talk about that?
You specifically?
Yeah, please, you do.
You're the one that brought it up.
I might need some more drink.
There was a video that came out with, it was an elite video.
It was an elite video, the sex tape per se, and people compared the arm in the video to Trayson's tattoo and said that it was him.
What's had placed in the video was oral.
sex by a young woman.
A woman, a female.
You can't say a young woman, you know.
I just wanted to say, you know, it was a female.
She performed letters.
She gave a little lettuce situation to, you know, she did her thing.
She did what she had to do.
You said a letter situation?
Lettuce, yeah.
What do you mean lettuce?
Letters.
Like lettuce.
Let us pray.
No, like lettuce.
Like head.
Oh, I thought you had some.
See, I thought you said she was talking.
in his salad.
That is...
That's a new...
That's a new thing.
We ain't never heard before.
They never heard.
You gotta be careful.
You got to be careful.
Now, Gina got a whole other
vocabulary.
She's like, she gave him the spinach dip.
She gave him the spinach dip.
What did I never have that?
No.
The Yankee doodle.
She did a little
guack, block on it.
But, yeah, so the video came out
whatever.
Timeline went crazy.
Females was on Trayson's DM.
would assume.
Yeah,
people seemed like
that was pretty
excited about
how did you feel
about this
Gina coming out?
He knew what
he was doing.
About Traceong's
dick.
How did that make you
feel personally?
I mean,
it was just like
it was just another dick
on the timeline.
It's Twitter's wild,
you know?
Like,
I'm kind of numb
to the shit now,
but I mean,
it's whatever.
I didn't know
he was packing like that.
That was funny though.
I was a only fan.
Only fans.
Premium account.
He got an only fan.
Fes. You see that other video with him with the girl?
Yeah. Yeah.
Shout out Prince of the ground.
It's looking like a battle of the artist
Only fans because we just seen Tiger shit
a couple weeks ago too.
Listen, listen, Tiger's on the West Coast. I'm going to just
say we set trends.
I heard that.
So if the other niggas is following trends,
you know, they come out here, they dress like us.
Trade songs and Tiger in a versus?
Pause for you.
I don't want to leave.
But I got to.
I gotta go right now.
Shut the fuck.
Hey.
Tiger a steper, fool.
Listen.
Hey.
Trey, you know,
Trey or R&B,
nigga, you know,
he's supposed to do that.
But Tiger,
a stepper.
I thought it was funny
how he kind of made light
of the situation.
Trey songs,
it was a video he posted,
and it was juvenile lyrics
and it said,
I walk with a limp
because my boss heavy.
There's a video of him,
like, limping.
It looked like he was in the airport
or something.
That was all strategic.
No, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was funny.
But it's so crazy.
new album. It's crazy to see
how social media
can turn you into whoever the fuck they want to
turn you into because just a couple of
what was that a few weeks ago when a
Thoughts Next Door interview came out and they
made him this big fucking... Oh yeah like a villain.
Yeah and then now
after the follow up. The thoughts
next door. It used to be a show
and no jumper but they were talking about
a sexual encounter with Trace
ongs and another female. And
it kind of turned into
him being
I don't want to say it
Yeah I don't know
Yeah
Because later on it was all cleared up
So I don't even want to get that shit back going
That was the um little uh
That girl y'all y'all you'll be having on here listen
Y'all not y'all
Y'all be having her on here
Yeah no no no no like
Friend of the show
Not this show
Yeah no not this show
Yeah no not this show
But yeah so
Just saying all that to say
During that time what was that about
6, three months ago or something
like that. It was a big,
Trace Songs is just this villain
and you know, fast forward.
Now he's a hero. He punched
the cop. He stopped the cop. Yeah, he punched the cop.
Yeah, he punched the cop. And then now
the dig video come out. And it's like social media
really can give you whatever fucking label they want to give you and everybody's
going to roll with it. That's a great redemption story if you think about it.
That's a kind of redemption story.
He didn't really redeem for nothing though because
he didn't do nothing wrong. Yeah, but like, just
the story was cleared up, you know. The comeback, 2021.
You try to redeem you he's trying to let us know if y'all see the video.
No, I'm just saying it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know me like, wait, I know what y'all talking about.
I don't know.
No, I know.
That's hilarious.
Listen, man.
People crowd chase, man.
Yeah.
People clout chase, man.
100%.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I'm trying about to get my mention back booming.
And then, uh, Danny Lane,
baby apparently broke up she posted on her story officially single oh red bone is what do you want or what
she said yellow bond is what do you want not anymore ha just kidding you thought no you know it's funny
because we we talked about this hey did you wait not to cut you know did y'all um did y'all see her like
little movie shit and shit like her little album shit done what is it crickets did she called movie she dropped something
she dropped something recently like what then is when she dropped it too like a month
Like,
I didn't,
I don't know
Following.
Well, yeah.
You know,
one of our artists
Mitch from 4-hundred
He was like
The main nigga
in that
The little video
for her album and shit
You know,
I know who that is
Yeah, I'm talking about
You know,
You know, you know?
I was trying to get off her
Just say, you know
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
I see, I see
Yeah
But shout out the baby, you know
Yeah
You see,
I see the transition
Yeah
But yeah, I mean
It just goes back
To like something
We talked about
I think it was off air
And it's just like
Um,
I feel like
sometimes
When there's like
a celebrity couple, I know instantly, like, it's never going to last. Like, they just never
last. Like, they're like a thing that, like, it's fun. You know, both artists have fun. It's good
for publicity and everything. But, like, I don't think people are actually getting married and
staying together forever. So, like, I think you asked me about it. Like, what do you think about it?
And I was just like, well, I don't think it's going to last that long. And then we just saw her put
that damn song out. And, I mean, I don't have no inside scoop. I'm not friends with nobody. But he
probably went back to his baby mama.
That's the go-to?
The chocolate girl that you said he didn't, you know, he didn't prefer.
You said he preferred a light skin bitch.
You think that's the go-to?
That's like, what-n-knits-n't-leaving their baby mama.
How many, like, okay, a guy leaves his girl.
That's cat.
Goes back to his baby mama.
How high is the percentage?
The baby has to be at the baby.
The kid, the child has to be at least going in the fucking middle school for me to think
that you never going to go back to your baby mama.
A fresh baby?
I never went back to my baby.
Shout out to my baby mama.
She's a cool baby mama.
Okay, but where y'all?
My baby mama's my baby mama.
Okay, but look, what's y'all?
That's it.
That's it.
We ain't going to talk about your baby.
I never went back to my baby mom, but shout out to my baby mama because she's an amazing
baby mama.
She takes great care of my son.
If you want to tell somebody you don't fuck with your baby mama, just say that.
I never told me.
Me and my baby mama are like best friends now.
No, but look, that's what I'm saying.
I feel like if it's a relationship, if the people, you know, the couples in a
relationship and then they have a kid and then they just so happen to break up early,
you know, in a child's life,
then there's a chance that they might get back together.
And I'm just basing that off my own experience.
You got a kid?
No.
How's your being?
Your experience?
Because I've dealt with a nigger who had a fresh baby,
left the baby mama start fucking with me,
didn't have a baby.
The baby was doing my birthday and all that.
Yeah, he went back to the be in.
Not saying...
You guys have the same birthday?
Did he go like to her mom?
I don't know.
I heard the baby mama pussy hit different.
I don't got a kid.
I don't know.
That's what I'm at to.
I don't know.
I didn't push your baby about it
this thing.
My feet might not in like that.
What did they say?
There's nothing like home cooking?
What is that?
Exactly.
That's what the people said.
I don't know what's like.
Sometimes you gotta go back.
I won't knock the nigga.
That's your preference.
You wanted that baby mama.
That might be your comfort.
You feel me?
But no, I do think,
I do think.
Y'all stupid.
No, I think it's a,
I don't think everybody's going to go back
today, baby mama.
But I think it's a chance.
that a dude can go back to that baby mama.
A lot of people do, I feel like, I know I got
homies who prefer their baby mama over the new
girl that they dealing with because it feels like
home, you know.
And your baby mama's always family.
It's always family.
That's really, that's really, that's a holiday.
You feel me?
Like, your baby mama's always family.
You got to.
What you say over there too?
He said, hell, no.
He said, that's the opposite.
He's not playing.
His baby mama, the enemy.
he's gonna say what you say too
you said you made my week with your name
what you're saying
you're gonna get a nigga name
I got
damn I ain't said you said it
you have a VM
yeah
well what do you think in this situation
I mean I think you like you're right
like how you said it's like
You're going back?
No no no no we're past that
My son's seven years old and like
We've been broken up for like five years
But
France yeah
Yeah, we're like best friends.
So he was two?
That's how I ain't my baby mama.
Yeah, he was two.
And it's like after that, yeah, like, yeah, like you said, like a fresh baby,
I feel like the chances increase.
And I think the baby does have, like, young kids.
I think the baby mama is pregnant.
Nah.
The baby, I think the baby mom's pregnant.
Like, pretty.
But baby not one.
Shout out to the baby, man.
Shout out to the baby.
Listen, listen.
Shout out to Interscope.
Listen, while we talk about the baby.
He needs to lead a, let's also talk about how he has stunter from Vegas.
how he has Black Zach, you know how he's not just an artist.
He's pushing other artists from his city and helping push his city on his back.
Like, you feel me?
Stunner for Vegas has a legit career.
Let's not just talk about the bullshit that's going on the baby and Arnold and they over there, you know, shout out Garrett they over there.
Doing some good shit, you know.
You think you're going to come to Mad Lady on a jumper and take some positive shit?
A thousand percent.
You think you're going to go ahead and say some positive shit?
No, nigger, we're on bullshit.
Listen, listen.
Pull him up.
I'm gonna give all my niggas.
They roses why they hear.
Because the next motherfucker ain't.
Yeah.
We're gonna do it on a more professional show though.
We're here.
You know what I?
Yeah.
Push.
Shit.
Shit.
Shit.
I'm professional.
Um, one more thing.
I had to ask you.
You think we'll ever get a just readup three?
That's, I feel like that's what I want to hear.
Yeah.
I think that's what I want.
Which one you like?
Read Up 1 or Read Up 2?
Which one's your favorite?
Because read up one
has some...
Wait, wait.
We want to know if there's going to ever be a Just Readup.
Okay, don't let him skip past.
Because he's good with dancing around.
What's your shit?
Answer at first, my brother.
Just Read Up was a very, very, very, very, very important moment for the culture, for the homies.
Like, just read up changed.
The sound of LA.
Facts.
And just read up two, change the sound of L.A. again.
So you think it's not going to be, you know?
Yeah.
Oh, you heard you hear it here first.
Yeah.
Just read up three on the way.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's not what you said.
That's what I heard.
No, no, no, no dates coming from me, but it's just like this.
Like, mustard and YG are real homies.
Like, you feel me?
Like, mustard has everything going on with 10 summers.
YG has everything going on with 400.
Like, they both.
focusing on helping their
artists and everything grow to the next
stage but it's like if you think
that mustard and YG music is done
like you're dumb
so it'll come
but I can't tell you no dates
yeah okay I'm happy with that
you said it's a possibility
you're like yeah
because we're just talking about it you know what I mean
Tyga brought back well done and that was like
nostalgic because you know it was like 10 years
back and then that one of the biggest
movements was
That's read up.
Yeah.
And that set the tone for the city.
It for sure did.
Do you see yourself doing more reality TV?
What?
No.
No.
You try to just, you just, you just, you just, listen.
You got to tell me this shit.
You just try to throw that in a little.
I just, I was just a question.
It's just a question.
It's just a question.
Do you see yourself doing more, you know, reality TV?
Listen, is this considered reality TV.
You want me to see.
say what I'm referring to or you're going to play the game with you? I can play the game with you.
You feel me? Come on. I can play the game with you. Listen, you know, I'm doing me and whatever
presents itself to me if it, you know, if it is what it is and if it makes sense and what it is
and if my manager is cool with it and my people's cool with it, you know, it is what it is.
At the same time, like, I'm not a reality star. I'm a street star, you know. So how did you get on the
Westbrook show?
I have nothing to do with this.
I thought you had the question.
Those are off the top of her head, bro.
I can't control this in there.
I got some more off the top of my hand too, but I'm going to let you.
Morgan's a good friend of mine, but listen, she's engaged down.
She has a baby on the way, so let's not, you know.
Yeah.
You know?
Let's not what.
I was just actually about reality TV.
I didn't bring up Morgan.
You said that.
But speaking of Morgan.
No, no, no, all bullshit aside, how did you, how did the, the show happen?
I just told you.
Okay, so.
Let's see.
So let's see that phone.
So let's put out some tweets.
On August, on August 29.
We're going to do sneak this is.
Okay.
On August 29, 2020 at 324 p.m.
Using Twitter for iPhone, you said,
you said, if my bitch ain't brazy, like, left eye, I don't want it.
And then you put this emoji.
I'm just being honest
Like crazy girls?
Because they had wanted to know if you were single too
So you can
Listen, so when it comes to that
You know, I'm gonna say like
I don't mean like nah
I don't want no crazy girl that's gonna like
Brum my shit down
But it's like, you know
Like yeah
Like yeah
I'm from the street so yeah
Like yeah like what that mean
Like come bust your windows out or something
Fuck no don't nigga
This ain't that
Because I got home girls in the hood
What you mean crazy though? Crazy like
What? Yeah, like, yeah, just a little, you know, a little brazy, you know.
All right.
On April 20th, 2015 at 1.10 p.m. using...
15?
Yeah.
Come on, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah, using Twitter for iPhone.
You said.
Breaking news.
Every nigger ain't a rapper and every bitch ain't a model.
Listen.
Niggins.
Listen.
Y'all want to see my DMs?
These niggas be trash.
But, you know, like, at the end of day,
Like anybody trying to pursue their dreams and shit, like, yeah, do that.
But you ain't got to send it to me.
And then it's like on some real shit, like, I'm a real nigga.
So like, I'm never going to feed you no industry answer.
I'm never going to be the one to say, yeah, bro, just keep working.
I'm going to be like, bro.
Yeah, I don't fuck with that.
But you, now you want to fight?
You need a.
You ask me my opinion.
But how are you going to want to fight me and you win Connecticut?
Now I'm in Los Angeles.
So you're going to fly to fight me?
Come on.
All right.
All right.
Shit.
You know where I'm at?
On August 29th, January.
I'm sorry.
August 29, 2020.
He's a Twitter for iPhone.
At 12228.
I'm used real mad.
You tweet this.
Oh, yeah.
Fuck A-Con.
What did he do?
What did he?
Solar panels?
Listen.
Listen.
Oh, some real shit.
Like, hey.
And so, boo.
If you watching this shit, I'm blood, you're my niggas.
you know. I fuck with his brother,
Boo, you know? But like
if you, if you're a real
nigger and you built off real
nigga shit, like,
you ain't letting six-nine
remakes locked up. I got you.
And I'm not trying to say this to get that
boy, no cloud or nothing, because I don't
care about him, but it's like, certain
shit is just like, bro, it's like,
like, go build your city.
Stop, leave rap alone.
Go build your city. Like, that's what you're doing.
Like, but you're going to come back to this shit that we're trying to bring back
because, like, rap was fucked up a few years back.
All you cared about was singles.
Oh, you didn't download no album.
You downloaded the single and fuck everything else.
You didn't know the artist's name.
You knew the name of the song.
Like, now artists are being known for their names and their credibility
and what they're trying to build nowadays and really stand on something.
Like, back in the day, we thought Acon stood on.
But it's like, nigga, we do, like, nigger.
would do like
nigger
snitches like
you ain't
you ain't sitting on nothing
like so like
a song like locked up
like nigga
every nigga from the streets
that was for the streets
every nigga who's been in jail
every nigga who's had a friend in jail
a cousin
or uncle
an auntie a mama
felt locked up
because I'm locked up
they won't let me out
you can sing something
you get that to a snitch
yeah
that remake was so trash
that broke that
the remake was trash
yeah
it was fuck yeah
it was
We didn't need it.
Come on.
Come get that to a real.
It's a lot of real niggas out here.
It did real shit.
Like, nigga.
You should have say that.
For Bobby Smurder.
You know?
There we go.
I was about to say that.
You should have said that for a real nigga.
If you wanted to give it to somebody from New York or whatever you want to do.
But yeah, not that.
That is not a real nothing.
Yeah.
Has on.
Gee, yeah.
Can I get another shot?
Tequila me, please.
Has loving hip-hop reached out?
What?
I saw you do that, but you got headphones off.
To who?
To you.
For what?
To be on the show.
For what?
What I'm going to do on the show?
Listen, I'm a real nigga.
Like, even on that last shit, like, like, you know, it would, that's had something
to do some real shit.
Like, nigger, loving hip-hop ain't real.
Like, you're not about to put me in a room and expect me to argue with this nigga.
Because, nigga, if I start arguing with him, my homies is tripping.
I don't get a fuck you a rapper, you a producer, you, you, you, you, whoever you is.
Nick, I'm arguing with you on TV.
Nick, and my homie see you out, you're not safe.
They got people on there that play like regular roles.
That's not just messy.
Everybody's messy.
Love and messy.
It ain't no hip-hop on there.
Like, only person made it in hip-hop off there is Cardi B.
Shout out to Cardi B, but nothing else on there is hip-hop.
Who?
Hip-Hick-Maker.
Hip-Maker.
He did it before.
What?
Come on.
Yeah, but he was on love at hip-hip.
No.
nigga he had hits that made him come back you're not talking about young
burg like he had hits that made him come back like nigga before loving hip hop he was
writing for nigga nick of nudge at the height of her career yeah he stole records from
Aaron Ray at the height of Nick Minnade's career and gave it to her like shit oh my bad that
that was personal yeah he'd make it a homie though but you know like on some real shit I'm just
saying it's not just artists that's on their own but he's not an artist or producers that's just
bullshit who name somebody I'll wait I'm
Who else?
I don't watch every show.
But that didn't make, like, that's what I'm saying.
Loving hip hop with a platform for Cardi B's career.
Loving hip hop is filling the hip hop community because they only put people on there,
African American people on there for drama.
They're not trying to help African American artists really platformed for their career.
Any artists that really make it on there and try to do shit for their artistry,
they're off the next season.
If they ain't the loudest person or dealing with a nigga wearing color nails and shit,
like they don't last like all that other shit don't matter like the only person to make it
off of there successfully is carty b and she pivoted off there and she chunked up the deuses
and she wouldn't do it again because she's an artist like everybody on there is on there for
fame not rap there there's no hip-hop in that shit like but that's not i don't feel like that's what
the show started off of i feel like the show started off of females that was in relationships
with artists telling their story and then they put artists on there who was trying to create
career. So we change the narrative. I don't think
love and hip hop changed the narrative. I think
the narrative. No. Maybe love, no, Cardi
B. Success made it be like, well, damn,
I can get on loving hip hop and put it.
That's cap. Look, let's go back to the beginning
of love and hip hop. It started off in Atlanta, right?
No, New York with Jim Jones
and his wife. I mean, his girlfriend, Chrissy
with her best friend, Emily, who was
fabulous girlfriend. And fucking Yandy.
And Yandy who was, yeah.
The Misi. Mendeci.
Mendishi wasn't with Mendizzi.
For staying a real nigger.
Mendecy stayed a real nigga did his time
came back home to his woman
Like a real nigga should
Well, Yandy was in management
She was doing stuff like that within
So that's what I'm saying
It wouldn't start off of building artists up
It never started off of that
It was females in relationships
Whit rappers telling their story
But Yandy had a career
In management
Right
That was prior to that
The other people on that show
The fucking
What's Cooray Daddy?
Benzino
He had a career
20 years ago.
Like, all those people, like, didn't,
Stevie J, wasn't he on that one first?
He had a career 20 years ago.
So when it started, they took people.
None of the people you named Arr started it.
But New York started it.
But they were all on the New York show.
No, they were all on Atlanta.
No, Stevie J started off in New York.
Stevie J. was on Atlanta.
No.
And Stevie J from, he started off out there
because he did music with niggas out there.
I think they moved to Atlanta later.
Stevie J was never on loving hip-hip-hop, New York.
And I can bet which I want to be.
I don't watch loving hip hop, but I thought he was from out there.
But anyway, back to what I was saying, like, it's still,
loving hip hop had a lot of people who was in the music industry
or people who was previously in the music industry, like Benzino.
Like, Stevie J was in New York because Stevie J and Benzino was best friends.
No, what you're saying about where he's from is true.
What I'm telling you is that, no, he was not.
Benzino was on Atlanta.
What's the other creep-ass nigger with the high cheekbones with the tucking face?
You know what I'm talking about.
I'm getting him and Stevie mixed up.
Oh, I know you're talking about the one that dated Eric Mena.
Light skin, curly hair.
He was on New York.
But he had a, he had history in hip hop.
This is what I'm saying.
So when loving hip hop started, all those people who it started from,
with people who had history in hip hop, like,
and they're trying to bring these people back from the dead.
Well, I'm telling you is what Yandy said when she started with Mona,
that it was supposed to be based off of, yeah, like basketball wives.
The basketball wives for hip-
music.
Exactly.
And it's not that.
But it's changed because Cardi B success went so high so now people can say, well, damn.
No, because if that's the case, if y'all, if they really, if they really look at Cardi B success
and what love and hip hop helped Cardi B do, like they would really go.
When they're in these cities like, nigger, they interviewing clowns.
They're not interviewing real artists from these cities.
They're not interviewing like loving hip hop, L.A.
The only person who's really from L.A.
who's trying to do something or doing something who's doing something who's on.
there right now with the Britney B girl and fucking
like her and like
that's it like she's from Compton
What's your sign? I'm a Libra.
Britney B is from Compton though but she wrote all
Bad Bunny's music like she like got plaques in real shit like
Nigger but who else on there like but even her story like
Nika they're not talking about that did you answer the question? Yeah
answered the question he's not gonna be on love it no I said did they reach out love
and hip hop ain't asking about that loving hip hop won't heard a beef or
lyrica over nigga
some bullshit
so like,
nigga,
I don't think he answers
the question.
I did.
Yeah, no.
You said no.
No, they didn't reach out?
No.
The answer is no.
They know what they did.
All right,
so I don't even know why we went this one.
To transition,
okay,
how do you go from,
how does
like,
your perspective go from like
Aaron Ray, right?
Coming from X Factor,
a live TV show
that's,
Like, you know, pretty much like a talent show.
And he was on there for two seasons.
What made you like, oh shit?
Because you know what?
I'm going to stop here.
Like I told you all earlier in this interview, I only signed real artists.
Like real people.
Like, I don't care if you got a hundred followers if it's real.
Everything on X Factor, they force him to do something he didn't want to do and try to be somebody.
He's not like, Aaron's from Cincinnati.
Yeah.
Like, if you Google the area from Cincinnati, he's from the hood.
He's not from the suburb.
They got him on that TV show looking like, nigga, the kid next door.
He ain't the kid next door.
He's a kid, nigga.
If you say the wrong thing, he don't break your chin.
And he didn't got into it with a couple of these rappers and R&B singers and impressed him.
And they then got quiet from an R&B singer.
I ain't going to say no names or who they is.
But, yeah, they know.
Aaron didn't impress them.
But Aaron, when I met Aaron, it was crazy because I met him as a writer.
He was in writing with Berg.
And we were doing sessions working on Mustard's album and trying to create records.
And I thought he was hard.
And I had a conversation with him and bro wasn't fucking with me.
Like, he wasn't trying to have a conversation.
Like, who was this nigga?
Yeah.
Like, and then I seen him again.
I was at a Rihanna session.
I went to go pull up on my homie Omar.
Omar is Rihanna's A&R.
And we was sitting there chopping it up.
And then Aaron just walked upstairs.
And I'm like, this, this, you just, this is a hard.
I tried to talk to him again.
I tried to talk to him again on some industry shit.
And bro curving me the second time.
And then it's like probably like another week past I end up going to another session with Omar
and Aaron and Berg were there again and this time I'm like bro what's like nigga
you know like not like pressing him and another like but nigga like you're like you're going
talk to me bro right you're not just about to keep curving me and I'm hearing these records
and I'm trying to figure out what the fuck and he was like nigga I don't want to be an artist
like nigga I write music like and I'm fine with that that's going to help me get to where I go
And I say, no, nigga, like, nigga, you tight.
Like, stop giving your shit away.
And, yeah, he had fucked up management and some fuckboys in his business,
and we figured that out.
And I helped with his first EP.
And when I helped with his first EP, his management, like, kind of, like, played me to the side.
Like, I was, like, a no, digger.
So, like, cool, you know what?
This is some industry shit.
I'm a street, nigger, but these are some squares.
So I'm just let it be.
And then when Aaron Ritaly,
like, yo, we're push, like, what's going on?
Like, and I hit, and he asked me, I was like, yo, like, I'm not fucking with your management.
Like, that's just what it is.
And he ended up pressing in.
Like, yo, this nigga, like, y'all not in it.
He's in it.
Like, so you're either going to fuck with him or y'all not going to fuck with me.
And he gave me that opportunity.
And I'm like, if you, if you work, like, nigga, I'm going to try to do as much as I can for you.
And from there, like, nigga, that was like in his project came on July.
That conversation happened in September.
He fired him August, I mean, October 1st.
He signed his deal in February.
It was just like that.
And we just grind it out, just me and him.
Like, I entered, like, this is my thing.
And I believe this, like, I'm connected with a lot of people.
But if I connect you with Gina, I would never want you to be connected with Gina only because of me.
So I bring you around, tell you this my people, but I want you all to create your own relationships.
and just helped him create his own relationship with producers
and with other artists to help him get in his pocket.
And yeah, and that's why now and I really believe Aaron Ray is the king of R&B.
And when you hear his next album, you'll understand why.
Like, because he's really making R&B soul music.
Like, no gimmick shit.
Like, I'd be so mad because we'd make a beat.
I think the beat five, nigga, he wanted, no, we have to take this sound out
and have somebody actually come play the violin.
No, this isn't really.
ready. I need somebody to play the actual chords on this. And it's like, okay, I get it. But you know,
with Aaron, he's not just an artist. He's a producer also. But a lot of things people don't know
about Aaron. Like, as a writer, he has success. He wrote for Nikki Minaj. He wrote for Jeremiah. He
wrote for Chris Brown. He wrote for Mick Mills. He wrote for Yogadi, like across the board.
Like, and then nobody was really pushing him in the right direction. And it's just like, yeah,
I gave him that push. And like, that helped me start.
my own company a creative push because it's like I don't want to just be a manager I don't want to
like I always think like all those though like those terminologies are just corny to me like so when I
created my company my my company is a creative push because I creatively want to help artists
and push them in the right direction like that's fine how do you handle um because you're in these
corporate buildings and you're the homie but you still
You were a professional
had as well.
So I know we got a lot of mutual friends.
So you mean when I talk like this?
Like, yeah.
No, that's not where I was going.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, whatever.
No, we got like a lot of mutual friends.
A lot of people do music and stuff.
So how do you handle those situations where,
because we deal with shit where it's like,
oh, it's our homie.
They want to come on a jumper.
Can I, Gina, you know, Vick, what's up?
Gabe, can I get an interview.
Gabe, can you play me on the radio, whatever?
How do you handle when it's like, well, shit?
I work at this high priority.
label. I'm responsible
for a lot of artists, talent and shit like that
and put an artist on. How do you handle those homies?
I feel like, just because I know
you, you should bring me in those buildings.
I mean, it's like this.
Like, nigga, I don't, like, I don't
know, like, how certain people take it, but
nigga, I'm from the street. So anything I stand
for on the streets is the same. If I wouldn't
do something in the streets, I wouldn't do it
in the music industry just because I'm in the music
street. And it's like, just because you
my homie, nigga, I'm not about to do something
for you just because you're my homie.
because it's a million other artists out here
and that's my career.
But, oh, would I take a meeting?
For sure.
Would I pull up to a studio?
For sure.
Would I give you advice?
For sure.
But that don't mean I'm assigned you.
Right.
Because it's a difference from being your homie
and working with you as an A&R.
Like, and as a homie, like, nigger,
my opinion comes first.
So, like, if I didn't like what you wearing,
I would tell you, like, Jesus, go change that shirt
because I'm your homie.
If I didn't like your song,
I'd say, Gina, change your song.
as your homie.
Like, that don't have nothing to do with me being an R.
But it's like, when it comes to actually sitting down and breaking down the album and
helping you create music and stuff like that, it's like, I got to keep it real from
the gate because I would never want a person to look at me funny.
Like, I ain't got the time to do that.
I don't.
I got to worry about my priorities and the artists that I have and the people that's on my
roster.
Like, so what am I going to put them to decide to help you?
Like, you can't do that.
Like would you put your job to the side to tell me?
No.
So like, nigga, you got to, you have to understand when you're talking to people, like, break shit down.
Because, like, everybody don't necessarily, like, it's just like when we were talking earlier about the shit you said with the, with the dating of friendship.
When I gave my, I broke down my way of thinking about it, you understand it.
Whether you fuck with it or not, you understand it.
And that's pure clarity.
Like, I don't give a fuck if you fuck with me, but you don't understand and respect what I'm saying.
Yeah.
I feel it.
Well, shit, we got to wrap up.
But real quick, some new music dropped,
or some new music is dropping, I should say.
I'll be right.
Petty Petty and Draco and One Take J got menu coming.
That's dropping tonight, yeah.
And Petty Petty and Draco working on a tape.
It's called Out of Character.
So look out for that.
Can I do some little like, some little sidebar shit right now?
All right.
So I just, you know, Gina just walked in.
So I'm just walked out.
I mean, so I'm going to do something real fast.
I know this wasn't scripted.
So, too, check it out.
Come here.
Come here, come here, too.
Come sit right here real quick.
Come on, lady.
So for everybody who out there, everybody watching, this right here is Take Two Time.
This is my first artist to Creative Push.
He's from Indiana, Indianapolis.
I met him like eight months ago through a mutual friend.
And we've been working and grinding every sense.
We just dropped his first single Black Sheep on the 18th.
And he has a project coming out at the end of this month.
And another project coming out next month,
a really big project coming out next month.
So it's a lot of shit to be excited about.
But yeah, everybody out there,
I just want y'all to see his face in, you know?
Yes.
Give the socials and all that and introduce yourself.
Oh, yeah.
Y'all can follow me on Instagram at t-y.2XS.
Twitter underscore underscore T-A-Y-2XS.
Yeah, say a little bit about yourself, you're scared?
You're on the mic now?
You know, you hear.
The Indiana in the house, the nap in the house.
Yeah, from Indianapolis, Far East Side, you know.
To really, man, it's be like, like, basically, I mean, shit, what you're like, what you're
talking about anything?
Talk about anything.
I mean, really, I mean, if y'all want to know, like, how I feel about the music,
or if y'all, basically, if y'all want to get to know me, I feel like, I put my
all into my music.
Like, basically my music is me.
telling people what I've been through,
you feel me? And just like,
basically it makes me feel good
because people hear my music and they tell them, like, it helped them get through their
day, you feel me? So when I get a lot
of them in my DMs, man, when I get
that and I listen to that, I see that, I'd be like
it makes me keep grinding, want to go harder,
you feel me? Yeah.
If you have to pick one song that, like, everybody
out there could just look up right now, what song would it be?
Shit, I'm gonna tell y'all.
So, you know, so, I have,
So I had the privilege, you know, help executive produce one of my best friend YG's last album.
And we was working on the last album was around a time when I found two.
Yeah.
And so two had a song called War Scars, and I ended up on YG's album.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Right?
It's right.
It's right above that song.
Oh.
So World Scars is Tate 2 Times featuring YG.
Y'all can go check that out.
Yeah.
That was a song.
I felt like it was special.
It held a lot.
And people, like, especially when we were going through,
same things he were going through from a different side of the world.
So, like, when YG heard he's like, yo, I need this for my album.
That's hard.
I need it.
So, like, everybody goes stream that, run that shit up.
Yeah.
And then, yeah, we got another song about to drop in the next few days
featuring D3, Be Quiet.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Gabe you have your, yo, who's that pick?
Oh, yeah.
My yo who's that pick is the homie from Long Beach
Brand new artist but been grinding
His name is Jay Million
Okay
He's like an R&B like rapper type of shit
Yeah he's killing it right now
Yeah he's one of my favorite artists
Especially from Long Beach putting it on
He got some shit with
Blast coming up soon
But right now you should focus on his single
I think it's called Way Down
That shit he just released it
That shit
He has a bright few
for the city.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, if we go back to that list too, if I go my list, I'll probably say, yeah, blast
and number one.
Yeah, yeah, blast.
But that's what I was saying.
You know, because, like, I text them, you know.
Because that's what I was saying, I was like, impact or plays, because I feel like impact,
like blast, you got to, like, everyone needed blast.
Like, at this point, at this year 2020, like, they needed.
Everybody needs a black.
My fucking blast.
Blast.
Your project, bro, with the perfect project for where the nigga was going through COVID.
Mm-hmm.
Because it's like it's, it got that and it got that ride to it too.
And you're producing your own shit.
You're writing your own shit.
You mix and mastering your own shit.
Yeah.
We be texting.
In three to four years, Ty and Blast would be a perfect versus in three to four years.
But I'm going to leave that right there.
Oh, my.
Oh, wow.
You can't.
You can't, like, you can't honestly, listen.
Fool.
Like, are you like, do you really know about Ty?
No, no.
Do you know how long Thai has been in the music?
in the shit. Like, and then it's like,
when you really say artists like Ty, right?
Ty is an all-around
artist. A musician.
He's featured on people's
records, not only
as an artist, but as a musician.
Ty will come in your session and fuck your whole session up.
Every instrument you have in there he can play.
Like, Ty is all around
the board like, nigga, Tudin'Bootie?
I agree. Production. Yeah.
Like, G-Cosso is the one that produced that record.
He lived down the street from me.
Yeah, Ty.
That was Jack's apple.
You know?
I'll tell you.
I'll tell you.
I'll tell you.
Bro.
Like, Ty is a, like, fool.
Yeah.
If only, like, and the crazy thing is, like, the homie, he, he's such a good nigga.
Like, he don't even be, like, wanting to brag or boast or show, like, everything.
But, like, nigga, fool.
Put a flute in front of him and tell him a song to play.
He's going to play it.
Put a trumpet in front of him.
Tell him a song to play.
Like, Ty just, like, a different type of nigga.
Like.
Different level of time.
Yeah, like, when niggas got involved with Ty and.
started being at his house like bro
I've named Ty's first mix tape
like no cap like
see that's what we was talking about when we was asking stuff
that we don't know about
like that's the type of shit we were talking about
oh shit
that was that was the one right after
whoop right? That was before
who was right before
poop yeah but it's like
did you name whoop too that's similar
you were name it
he's like
what should we name it
whoop
that's it
that's what we're going to do
I named house on the hill man
Like
Nicker bro like
Ty is just like a different artist fool
Yeah for sure
I think the way glass is
But that's why I said five years though
Because he's producing his own shit
No but the fucked up part
Like you can't need to say that
Because Ty got 15 years of shit on blast
And out of that 15 years
It's like seven that he doesn't even talk about
Like all the
Production shit he don't
I produced this or I worked on this
Or I wrote on this
He don't tie don't do that
Like Ty don't brag and boast, but them checks come in, you know?
So he's like, he's a different breed.
That's far.
So who would you just want to see and not want to see?
But who do you think could go on the verses with Ty?
Today, not five years.
If you're going to say anyone, it might be him.
Like 10 years.
All right, I'll give it like 10 years.
But then it's like, I think once we get Blass that time to grow and be seasoned and stuff like that,
he's definitely going to be as important.
Blass is going to like, who, I'm not taking nothing, not one drop.
not one drive away from Blass
Blass is a nigger like and he
did it himself on his own
back by himself not with
this or that or this or that or this
but like most respect to Blass
like and he knows just from conversations
that me and him had like
I really feel like that I'm not just saying this
on an interview
but like
nigger
you can't like it's just like
you can't compare like
is like it's the same
it's just what people try to compare like
like Kobe and LeBron like
bro they like
LeBron is right now
Kobe would like
So you're saying we can't put past in
in current
on the versus in the same thing
Even like with the Super Bowl
and they were talking about like
oh Patrick Mahomes is the goat
he's the best quarterback we ever seen
and then it's like
Tom Brady
and it's like bro how can you
But you can't take nothing from home
At all
Like look at his record
Like before last night
before last night with the first game
he's never scored a touchdown
in his life
of being in the NFL like
you can't take nothing away from him just because he lost like but it's like the young goat
yeah he on his come up blast on his come up like blast is gonna have a incredible career
i don't see blast being here now and gone in 2021 2021 like you don't still hear about blast in 2030
because he's an artist he's not just a nigga just i just yeah he's a real like like nigga
yeah outside of his artistry to produce him too that's that's what i'm saying but that's a
an artist like he's not saying he's a I'm not
categorizing him as a rapper
as a singer he's an artist like
Ty is an artist he do everything
Blas do everything you can't
it's a it's a different level
of respect you got to put a nigga who
doing that type in
facts but he's going he's gonna
be a goat yeah
uh Gina you have your yo who's epic
I don't think I got one this week
okay you straight um I got
mine is um C C Coyle Ray's called Pose
Oh shit
shit. Yeah, they dropped the record. Yeah, that's just fire.
Oh, she killed that shit. Yeah. Yeah. I fuck with him.
It's that whole little crew.
But that's what we were talking about earlier because like the whole
pushing movement, right? Like make your own records and have your own parties.
They doing the same shit. Like, AK, like, they're killing.
The push's blueprint. It's another group that's doing it too. I just can't say, you know,
who they're doing, but I see it. I respect it.
Oh, my God. Can you tell us afterwards?
They're not on the winning side or with the, you know, with the red team.
But, you know, like, you know, like, they got their team and they doing what they doing.
They got their main rapper and they're awesome.
And you're having your own, you have your own functions.
Real nigga.
I respect it.
Like, that's it.
You know, but it's still sooo, but I respect it.
And then Ram's pick is Killio and Cyprus.
It's called Flexin.
People don't know Killio.
Rich's younger brother. So, yeah, shout out to them.
Blamey.
Yeah, Blame Man. That was originally Blame Man. Yeah, that's what most people know him as.
And yeah, that's pretty much it.
Shit, anything else you got out to say before we get out of here?
Long live Big Bee, because I know he's very instrumental in putting everything together.
One of my favorite records is, bitch, better ask somebody.
Oh, shit.
I know that was the perfect introduction.
But I'm going to leave it like that because that's how I grew up, man.
I was 15 years old when Go Dumb came out when fucking.
Pussy Killer came out.
How did you?
I'm 28.
29.
Oh, let's go now.
Yeah, so I got to see everything, man.
The whole evolution.
You know, like from YG performing at high schools.
And my first concert ever was to watch him at Carson High,
and he couldn't go on because there was tripping on him,
and it was like a 50 versus 50.
But that's when I knew, I was like, from Go Dumb and Pussy Killer,
you're ready touring the fucking city and to follow him to,
to see the whole evolution.
I went to middle school with Ace.
That's my brother.
He's one that put me on,
like a long,
long time ago.
Ace, even going back to Ace,
and I ain't even going to stay deep in it,
but like,
even on the push of shit,
like,
Ace was one of the,
like,
because Ace was running the business side.
Ace brought me on the business side
because, like,
when we was 16,
like, bro,
I was throwing parties.
I was making money.
I had already invested money in hair salon.
The hair salon ended up going under,
but,
nigger,
I was on. Like one thing we at I
I dropped like 10 bands in a hair salon
nigga signed the contract lawyer
and shit I'm only 16 I came
up to the park like look nigga I just
I'm my owner nigga Ace like
we gotta sit back
I don't get shit out
oh god like Ace bro like yeah
shout out to Ace that's my dog
wait before we go I got one more question
because this is really important
so back then
push your time jerking era click time
was porn stars Nike
pushes,
vixons, all of them.
Fresh flirts.
A great point
that Vic had brought up
yesterday in our meeting
was that
that was during the time
that everybody
supported local artists.
We don't really see
that much support
like that in the city.
What you think that changed?
What you think it is that changed?
It wasn't, you know,
honestly,
it wasn't just
everybody supporting
local artists.
It was like
the movements
was so big.
Like, all right,
you think like
the pushes, right?
I'm from the east side.
YG's from Compton.
Mustard's from the West Side.
Like, you know, like, everybody's from different areas.
Yeah.
Like, and when I come, I'm coming with 20.
And YG, he comes, he's coming with 20.
When rural boy, he came from Long Beach, he coming with 20.
Then you think about the vixons.
Or you think about the pink dollars.
Like, the pink dollars, cool.
Two of the girls from Inglewood.
One of the girls from the West Side.
Like, it's like, it was different groups of people coming together.
So it wasn't really, like, how, like, everybody think, like,
Oh, because, nigga, bro, we had a lot of issues, a lot.
I remember the rude boys in the porn stars at the skating.
We had a lot of different people, like, and it's like this.
Like, if you are reptable, you got respect in your hood or your area, like, nigga, it's going to be shown.
Like, it's like, nigga, I don't care.
As long as you're not my, I'm not hanging with none of my direct enemies, but, like, one of my crib homies, like, nigga, T.
T.C. can throw, shoot a video on my hood.
Rame can shoot a video on my hood.
I can shoot a video in T.
Hood. Like, YG can shoot a video
on T.C. Hood. Like, it's like, if
you don't have that level of respect
with your homies and your own background,
you can't have nothing else. But then
when you got 30
niggas with that same respect level
are close to each other,
hanging around each other, you don't have
two, three hundred people linking
up every day. And it's like, shit,
you might not like that nigga from back
in high school, but he's my homie,
and you're my homie, so y'all got to hang out.
Yep. And this is what's going to happen.
You're gonna pass you the blunt.
Yeah.
Niggas tass you,
like, good look, your fool.
You get the bottom?
Like, like, food.
Like, I tell you, like,
even like the shit with Nip,
like, it's niggas, fool, like,
who I used to fight in high school.
Like, nigga, we see each other.
It's cracking.
They used to fight me.
Like, it ain't just like,
I was the antagonist.
They was turked up, too.
And we hated each other
and didn't see each other for a couple years.
And then fuck around and see each other,
a few years later,
a few years later,
niggas, sitting in Nipsey's studio.
Nigget, looking at each other like this.
Like, like,
nigga, all right, so who's going to say what's up first?
Right.
Yeah.
Nick hit each other one.
All right, bro.
Hit each other one.
Like shit.
Then niggas start passing the blunt.
Niggas start passing the bottle.
And it's like, everybody started talking and,
everybody in the same conversation.
So you're not like, you're human.
Yeah, I'm going to talk.
You know what I'm saying?
So, like, I don't go fuck how tough you is, how much ego you think you got.
But niggas sitting right here for when you ain't gunning down, you're going to talk to you.
I think it's crazy.
Yeah, LA politics separators.
But then we see music and the industry kind of unite people back together.
But the reason why is.
But the reason why.
it unites people back together because there's no matter what,
nigga, if you're real, you real.
Right.
And it's like,
nigga, you know who got, like,
if you came to the east side with me
and you see how my homies embrace me
and you with me,
you don't feel comfortable.
Like, my artist too.
He's from Indiana.
He just, he shot two videos in my hood.
And my homies treat him like he's
a homie.
He shouldn't treat him like nothing else because
that's my area. I'm from over there and I'm still there.
I ain't, you know, get a little bit
or move to the valley and disappear like, nigga,
you can still see me, you can still call me,
I'm still gonna pull up, I'm still fighting, I'm tripping,
just like you.
So, like, if everybody's like that,
when you go to that area,
you're gonna have respect because they got respect.
And that's what it's all built off of.
Like, LA is built off respect.
I don't care, you cripp, you blood, you hoover, or whatever.
Like, nigga, if you ain't got respect,
nigga, from your homie,
you ain't who got no respect from me?
Yep.
Wait, wait, wait.
What?
Go ahead.
What?
Pink Dahl and Vixen versus is coming.
Like, really, really soon.
Who do you got?
It's coming from Pushing Rock.
I put you in my name name.
Gets you in store me.
I'm going to go with the pink dollars, though.
Whoop.
Like, I got to.
You know, like, I got to.
Shout out Cam in China, you know?
Yeah.
But, yeah, like, because, like, all right,
the Vixis was going.
But pink dollars was outside.
It's like, like, don't get, like, during the time of that area, like, the vixists had music.
You'll see them at the parties, but, nigga, you'll also see the pink dollars, the thing outside.
Like, just on some regular shit or pulling up to parks and I don't know, like.
Yeah. As you know, like, I hung up a couple of, you know?
Oh, God.
How many pink dollars did you have in your pocket?
That's what we want to know.
I was like.
I think, um, I got, I got vixings for, you know.
making better music back then,
but I think Cam and China
will rap circles around all them bitches today.
But see, it was Cam, China,
I don't know what the other girls is doing
apart of Pink Dollars.
But today, from what I'm seeing,
what they've been putting out,
they will wrap circles around all them bitches.
Yeah, but it's like, even Cam and China,
like, I tried to help Cam and China a while back
and it was like the same thing I tell anybody,
like, it's cool that you can rap, like.
But you got to make sure people care.
Like it's like, nigga, people don't care about you, they're not going to care.
Like, you got to understand like, and it's like, it's not just about you, you can rap,
you can say metaphor.
It's like what you really been through.
Like that vulnerability, like, me, every artist, any artists I work with, like,
nigga, that's what I preach the most.
Like, nigga, the more vulnerable you can be, the bigger you're going to be.
Because the biggest artist is vulnerable.
Like, and one, like, one thing I'll be telling people, like, and I use this, for example,
And this ain't no disrespect
to nobody.
Like, not, never mind.
I ain't gonna say it.
Respectfully.
You just said some disrespectful shit.
On that note, we're gonna leave it there.
Mad lately.
Appreciate you push-a-rod.
Thank you.
This is really dope.
This is big for L.A.
I think any L.A. historian, anybody
will watch this episode and be like,
yo, there's some real shit just happened.
So appreciate you, bro.
Appreciate yourself having me.
