No Jumper - MAF Teeski on Getting His Finger Shot Off, Lil Zay Osama Beef, Drive-Bys & More

Episode Date: January 3, 2024

Teeski talks about his resurgence after doing time, house arrest, Lil Zay Osama situation, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumperofficial     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper, coolest podcast in the world. I'm in here with my man Remo. And today we're having a conversation with M.A.F. Tiski. Getting into some real Chicago lore right here. So this is interesting, though, because you've been around for a minute. But now it's kind of like you're having a whole little career resurgence right now. Yeah. So how are you feeling right now?

You're feeling good? It's not supposed to happen. You're supposed to only be new one time. Yeah, yeah. I feel great. My son, I do feel like I got recreated. This show, like, I'm going to some old different, you know, like, mind-wise, all the type of shit, I come different,

come tring with everything I do. I've been like that, though, you know? Uh, shit, I had a little run. I feel like my first run, my behavior, I don't know shit. I went to prison all the type of shit off of, like, a lot of, like, fame and views and my shit. I was like, get to my house a kid.

Like 18, feel me? My first song I'm up with that, did like 400,000. Like 300, 400,000. It's called Dirty Cup. Like, it went viral around the city. It just never got out the city. Right.

It's interesting, though, because, like, I got hit up by one of my loyal A&R homies. My boy, Eli. Excellent A&R. My boy. Very trustworthy guy. Great man to know. And he hit me up.

He sends me a name. He's like, I got this artist. I want you to interview him. And so I'm checking it's going to be like some new kid that just came out or whatever because normally when he signs an artist, they're kind of like just coming up. And then we start digging into it. And I'm like, oh, he had a Zach TV interview. So he had a whole career arc before this current arc that he's on right now.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's cool. Zach TV on that shit. I sent his ass in the shoes, though, like that day. Really? Yeah. Like random is hell.

Man, shit. Me and Fotonin, we had to do, like, a little party on her. Like, we was in school and, you know. Oh, we was on brick. And we were drag-shale. We was all in the group chat. It was like 15 us and that. And we just was, like, like, M-A-F.

It was the whole M-A-F and that, you know? Like, that's a full school game. Like, I'm M-A-F school game. So, like. Okay. Like, basically when you just said. S-C-O-O-M for the people out there. S-C-O-M.

I'm reading an office chain. For sure. You guys probably can't see it. M-A-F. Well, Brig. Because some people don't know what MAA even stand for. MAA stand for money and family. You know?

They're based off, like, loyalty, love. And, like, um, like, freedom. Like, being who you want to be in, like, no matter what you is, you know, in Iraq, it's a bunch of, like, GDs, BD, stones, whatever the fuck you is, like, whatever the fuck you from, you know? And, you know, like, some people force to be shit

because that's what their hood is in Iraq, you know? Like, it's basically, like, you're born and something. You have heard this saying like you're born and some shit. Like you just come from that. So you feel family BDs or like grew up an O block or an O or something. You're a BD. You forced to be that.

Basically, you know. So like with my shit. If you make your decision about what gang you're going to join as an adult, they'll clown you for that. You join a gang in 25, they're going to roast your ass for it. Seen it happened before. So it's like you need to choose your gang as a small child. Or else it won't be responsible.

which is kind of an odd concept. Yeah. In Iraq, that's big as hell, though. LA, too, yeah. So when you was doing the Zach TV, that was MAF, that was MAF. Yeah, that was my MAF stage. Like, you know,

MAF, it wasn't no rappers out there. It's all members, you know? Yeah. All members, like, ain't no robber. I was the first rapper, like, out of the crowd. Dirty Cup wasn't even out yet. No.

So y'all was just doing Zach TV, just off the stream. Yeah. How that even is? We synced his ass in the study On Craig, we was all Like, we like, all right, phintosh and It was on a brick

It was a Thursday, and we did all this One day, mind you, we did this one day. Thursday, we know, we instantly, I, everybody put on their page. This one, Twitter was hot and shit Like, back then, like, like a month You know, I don't get on Twitter like, then. Nobody does.

But. It's totally different now. Yeah, it's like a point. A lot of death. You can watch people die on there all day. It's strange. but yeah though we seen disaster in the store we was all getting flat for that basically we all popped out early morning

the next day Friday and shit when we went to the stores and shit we seen them like in DTIL you know we was all getting kicks it was like fours we was two cars deep it was like four in each car deep as hell we'd be deep as hell like you know growing up all us we built off like united and shit like everybody from a different like what I just told you

like has like um Like when you grow up you got to be what you is like whoever like what we just talk about like Everybody from a different set like the MAF like I'm from Rose and like in the Hunters and then we got members like you catch me from From out west or you catch more like we got members from like all over the city like different parts of the city and like we moved to the birds basically So that's where the MF video was shot that was in the birds yeah what bird was it south sub birds like mark them Country Club hills, you know? Hazel crest and shit.

Like, you don't have a lot of people trying to clown that. Like, from the racke. You're goofies. Like, you know, they're goofies. They don't know shit. Like, all the South Suburring there is, it's like, you know, motherfuck that moved from the city to the birds

because they, OG, scared for their kids' lives and shit. Like, growing up and shit. So, you know, like, the hunters and, like, low-end and shit. Like, all that shit, inglewood and shit. Like low end and like on the entire shit. I know y'all are in view hala artists from the rack, so they tell ya what they're from, you know?

And they tear y'all area, you know? So in the birds, I moved to the birds in the birds in the eighth grade. My Oji moved me out the hood in the eighth grade, you know? Like my Oji she from a hundred and fift for Winworth, my daddy from one of Worfrey. So it's like, this side of Winworth, being two with this side of Winworth.

You feel? How come your parents wanted to get out of there? My dad is that I was being in jail and shit back and forth. I love to f***. You don't name that thundam. Like, well, my mama was, it was my mama choice.

My OG, I went to the Fizz. The type of shit, I was a shorty. And I was like, with my auntie, closest to my daddy side, my mom adopted. So I'm already. Hating on someone for moving to a nicer area is also some backwards-ass shit.

Because literally every successful rapper from L.A., from Chicago, whatever, you only need to get a little bit of fame and popularity for that to be the first. thing you start thinking is, well, how do I get out the way where I'm not going to be as much of a target for my kids, and I'll be able to go to Starbucks and not be watching my back and shit like that, you know?

So that's some, like, high school ass shit to be hating on somebody for, don't you think? Yeah, yeah. Especially when you're a kid, you don't control where you live when you're in eighth grade. Yeah, yeah, that's what it was. Like, my OG went to the feds and, like, my sixth grade, yeah. And I was with my auntie and she lived on 100th century period.

That's my daddy sister, you know? And I used to be out late as hell before them. Like, you know, this the hood. I'm from, I'm from, like, you know, like, people try to clown me and say, all type of bad shit. Try to, because of the bird. Like I just said, that was my sophomore year. Zach TV video was my sophomore year, you feel it?

And, man, yeah, got made, like, by my, like, my eighth grade year going to freshman, you know? Bad-ass kids just trying to, you know, just do shit. And we all from our different sets or whatever, how have it go. And we liked it each other. Like, we just like hanging with each other, this crowd. There's one crowd, you know, and we just gave myself a name because we just getting older, fit me, and shit like that. And then, you know, it was new recruits in the way, like, you know,

because they seen how thrilled we was, you know. It was like four us, five less at first. And, you know, like, I was counting a newcomer. I don't want to deal when they first started, you know. And then the school game, that's all right now. Like, that's me right here right now. But before we get to the school game, so who created the MAAF? Like, who out there was like,

My shorty, my shorty Crip, my shorty Crip, my showy, my showy, you know. My other homie G. Wayne and shit, you know, G. Wayne and Crip blew up brothers and my dogs, you feel him? And then he'd be, he, like, he was the homie that played sports and shit. So he went to college and shit. Like, he lived out of town and I was graduating. I dropped off, you feel me?

Anybody from MAF started rapping, like, after the fact? Me. You're the only one. Yeah. I pick up for it. After that, we was knowing this hell. I ain't gonna lie. We came up getting money.

We was getting money. All that, I mean, y' shit. Getting money. You seem to go back to the ball. You would see money in that. We were shuddies. I was a kid. How are you getting money?

Why people always laugh at me when I asked that? Get money all the type of ways, though. You're from the rack, though. You're going to get out of you real. You know? You're going to like, you're going to chase the shit how you want. You're going to. You're gonna be broken.

I hear, all right, so with Chicago, a lot of people don't be trapping. They said the trapping used these on the n-the-west side or something like that. Hell, no, they're lying. So everybody's trapping around that. But out west, they shoo be booming, though. Like, you know, it's different, though.

Yeah. Like, out west that shit, like, a whole other world to me. But I f***ed out west, dude, like, Rish, that's my boy. Like, he's from my west. That's my dog. Like, you know, like, he's a foe. He's even a foe.

He's a foe. You know? I don't like the ass. But he passes the test? Yeah. Okay. He protects me. You know?

He protects me from a full. You know? Maybe an op can protect you better than anyone else. Yeah. No. Yeah, that's my dog. Trying to help you out. See, I'm from South.

He's from out west. I don't know about nothing they got going on. When I meet you, when I met him, I don't know him. He don't know me. He didn't even knew me of music, you know? I don't fucking people. for real. I don't mix streets with my music for real. I love to fuck at my music for real.

I heard them my fucking. I don't merge the streets with that, you know? And I'm trying to beat the streets. I beat that, though. I'm still a rookie. I'm still a rookie, though. You know? And the industry, though. But I'm in his bitty. What started happening at first? Jail or you pursuing rap? A rap. I dropped two songs. Do you cut that bitty a four hundred thousand.

My second saw, I dropped like A month later I'm like When I'm gonna do that again You know, I had the whole gang And that bitch with me I paid, I really wanted to do that I pay for the session

I pay on Craig I made the hook Right I made the hook I'm just in that bitch I f*** up a V I like this beat I like

RIP my boy Katie on my son That's school That's his nickname Katie that's my best friend You know Like that's my dog Like, if you listen to my music, if you see me, be with me, know me, you don't even got to know me, you're going to know how bad. Like, I'm f***ed about, bro.

You know, I lost bro, that shit killed me. You know, like, that's all this shit about right now. That's what it all be about. And where Katie from? Katie from now. He's from the hundreds. Katie Daddy, he's from 119th, but Katie Daddy and my mama from the same block. But that was a coincidence.

Like, it wasn't. Like, we didn't grow up. Like, I told you, I'm from this island of work. this I wouldn't work for being tour with and shit that's my mama's sad though but that's my OG grew up like you know that's how I know a lot of my over there and like not saying I get passes

if I see them or something like that but like you know my OG from over there so it's like you know if they got love from my OG you feel me like it's like that like we growing up though because I'm moving out of the head in eighth grade so I was a kid you know well you know I just probably start playing

with guns and shit like literally just like like 7 grade so what year did you go to jail? I went to jailing. 2019. 2019. What you have got arrested for?

May 26, 2019. Straps. I got guncases, high speeds and shit. So you just got straps on you and then they try to pull you over and you just can't get pulled over? So you got to try your luck?

Yeah, well, they got to try. They look. But they call me though. They tried their luck and won. Because a lot of times they have to give up the chase nowadays, right? If it gets too dangerous? Yeah.

Are you kind of counting on that? Yeah, we just got birds and shit, though. Like, we just got birds. Like, birds. Oh, the helicopters. Oh, for so. We just got birds, like, last year. So it would be hectic.

I don't play around now. Like, you know, I'm big as hell. I only do a lot of shit I used to do. You know, I was baddest hell. Like, I was the first little, like, Ryan Jones' shit in the wreck. Like, I was knowing his hair, like, around that time, Zach TV, for Ryan strikers. Like, raw-ass strikers, though.

Like, straight-aches and shit. Like when Sosa, like, first bust his hellcatting. Like, back then, it was a great one with a scrip through that. Like, a small gray one, I had the same one. I bought it for $75, honey. I'm a career, Gary. I bought it for $70,000. I bought a day after I shot Dirty Cup.

I shot the video Dirty Cup, and then I bought that the next day. I even paid for the Dirty Cup video. It was a G. And then I paid for the session, too. I was getting money. I was getting money for, I was getting money. So, yeah, you always believed in your rap career. Oh, okay.

I did the first son. I'm on career. I knew it. I'm a badass shorthy. If I had the knowledge I have right now and the goddess I have right now, back then, I would have been on for you. I would have been seeing me.

I think I could have got sent up. My second song, I swear to God, and I only had like 3,000 followers when I first dropped the song, $3,500. You got locked up for how long? Yeah, I did a year on house arrest. Okay. I had two striped cases.

I got called a pipe. May 30th, 10 days for my birthday. Then I bonded out. I mean, like, before I even hit deck and shit, I'm gonna keep it real. And the rack is like, it's like, um, like, um, you gotta pay a certain percentage to get out.

Yeah, 10%. Like, you know, every city or every state different. You know, that's why I never want to go to jail. I think 10% is normal though, right? No, hell no. But do they have no bail on there or some shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got some new shit like that. But here, no, every, every state different. Like, I'll hear you, like, I'll hear how

you need the bills, bondsmen, shit. Like, it's different. Like, Iraq don't need that. OG can combine you out, yo, I'll combine you out in the rack. Like, on Greg Greer, yo, I can bond you out, foe. You ever heard about that happening? You know that? A lot of shit be happening. That would be fucking scary.

Oh, somebody's here to bail you out. You walk out and you fucking arch enemy just staring at you. That shit didn't happen in the rack, fool. A lot of shit that didn't happen in the rack, like all type of, like, impossible shit be happening in the rack, fool. You would think that shit ain't, you know? It ain't happening. That shit be happening in the rack, for real.

So you was on house arrest for a whole year? and that's when you record it's the house arrest project exactly what I dropped house arrest oh my son I used to go to at first I was on shit at first I was on house arrest

at Katie mom's shit I moved from my house to my brother's house he's blind and shit my brother's scubball he blinds my oldest brother's he booked right now for a body and shit

but he's been to beat that bitch, you know that. But look, though, yeah, I moved with him and shit, you know. And he was blind at the time, this shit. I don't have wind up getting shot and shit, man. I don't have wind up getting shot at the crib. You got shot at the crib while he was on house arrest? Yeah.

I'm for a now. How that, niggas just sliding and just shooting through the dough? Yeah, they shot my crib, well. Yeah. I got some bitch-ey's out. Like, niggas be bitches, though, but. And this is the crib and the bird. Yeah, this is the crib and the bird.

Burbs still is cracking out there. Yeah, yeah. That's what the niggas be tweaking. Niggas be tweaking. It'd be dead bodies in the birds, a lot of them business, but, you know, like, I'm in the South suburbs at that.

Like I say, I'm not from the birds, I told you I'm from... For the hunters. Yeah, I'm from Roseland. But she's... Bro, everybody knows about Rosalin, like, I'm from the honey. Like, that's the whole area.

Like, I'll put it like that, you know? But, like I say, I put it on for the bird. That's my shit, too. Won't create. The bird's my shit. I'm going to create. But people got to really hate you to go to a totally different area in the suburbs and take an extra level of risk to try to do something to you, right? Yeah, but the hood ain't shit like 15 minutes.

Like, DT from the South suburbs, 20 minutes. 20 minutes. Like 25 minutes. You know, without traffic, 30 minutes with traffic. Like, the hood I live in, the hundreds. Like, you know, the burbs is on like 167, 159th. So you take I-57 down. That's shit only like five exits.

Like, you know, you got like 119, 127, 1019, 1027, then 159th. Yeah. You know? So there's like a couple of eggs of that shit. Like, I can get to the hood on career grade, like on some driving fast shit, like, and 12 minutes on career degree from where I'd be added in the burst. So break that down though. So, all right.

So you're on house arrest and you're chilling and you get shot up. Where you get shot at and, like, where were you at in the crib? I was playing a game on career. I was playing a game with my own me. People's gambling that shit. And shit. I heard shots go off. I heard shots go off, but

you know I'm from the rack, so I hear them bitches all the time, you know? Like, that's how I go. I'm ruining them to T.I. I heard shots go off. Around that time, I ain't gonna lie. I caught a stripe case, foe. Like, May 30th on career,

got bonded out before I hit deck on my son. I got out of jail. I couldn't make no money. I had $20,000 put up in my OG. Creel. And my little brother, I tell my little brother, like, if anything ever happened to me, little brother is yours, keep it, don't get to mama and shit, you know? Like, but if he wanted to get to his mom or something, that's, he could have, you know, but I'm like, it's yours and so you can, you know, my little brother, you're younger than me, you know, my brother,

he's younger than me. He's younger than me. A year and nine months younger to be, like, literally. So, bam, I call home and shit. My shit was a G. I had Bonnie K.E. out too. My rap, It was my rapy on my kicks. We were sitting behind my OG crew. Country Club, he was boxers, and yeah. You know, what shit, you know? And shit. I was in the cat.

On career, Gary, I was in the Hillcat. Same cat, I tell you, it was just, like, Chief Keats with the Strike. My son. The whole shit, you know I had that bitch. Everybody knows what stuff. And they came back there with, like, six cars. That's an old lady called. It was, like, it's a suspicious car around.

But I was waiting on my OG to pull up to let me in a kid and get in the shower. But I parked in the back. So they probably, and that bitch was 10. it out, feel me? So, man. So this the driveway of your house? Yeah. I had my OG crew, like in the back.

Yeah. He boxed that bitch, yeah. I couldn't do shit, you know? Me and Katie was rapis and shit, so my OG got bonding me out and shit. My oldie got my libretta gave him the money and shit. Um, I mean, my lib brother gave my OG the money to come buy me out. I was, I went to, I called another case a month later, a month later, a gun case a month later. a month later off that one.

Yeah. I was in another street. I was in another charge. I was by myself, though. I was out of lighting and shit. Twil's like two cars behind. They hit the lights. They got on me and shit.

I knew they was on me and shit. I snatched this shit. I had them. A car had jumped in the way. Made me spin out and shit. Airbags popped out and shit. I had to bail out. I don't know money to talk about the shit

because I started time for that shit. You know, like that shit. But it's on my background, you know? Yeah. And I do good. Like, they ain't seen police since this shit happen. I'm telling this shit happened. I got out of jail March 20 of 2020.

I went to jail. And, you know, May 26, 2019. I caught all that shit, 2018, you know? Two cases. So, bam. Call my second gun case, high speed. He jumped from me. I spent out, bam.

I got out running that shit. I got away, though. I didn't got caught because the key file was in my pocket. I made it all the way to the metro station. Fawr. They tracked down the keyfaw? Oh, no. They just shit.

I don't know. They just might probably track the light. I mean, probably check the train stations, like everything that was around. Because it was like five blocks over. So it was like the next train. He was probably trying to get that before the next train coming, you know? And when they came up still,

he just surrounded me and shit. You know, gun on me this. I could have been there. If they had to keep following my pocket on career because I was far as here from the cop, you know. But that was my second gun case. They bumped. They no bonding me.

I had a violation because I had a gun case. The UW, I got called a number. another one. You know? I got caught the same exact case. I don't bond for it. You can't do that in the rack. You know? You violate your bond and all.

You violate that whole money. They keep the money. You can't get it back from your last case and shit. You know? Then you've got to see a violation bond. And then you got to see your court bond for your new gun. So my new gun was 50KD. You know? My first gun was 100KD.

I mean, was 100KD. My second gun was 500 KD. So the first one was a G to get out I got out Got back on the same shit About another street Like 5,000

You know, that's how that shit Going around right This one off Strikers and shit First, like y'all know y'all Yeah, I probably hurt that word That's what the strike you know Yeah

I'm riding them bitches on Craig I was the first little nigga Riding them bitches I'm my dad brother My son My dad could What makes a striker so special Yeah, it's yours

Park that bitch where you want to You know Want to put it your garage and put it right though hey gonna come out of the morning still be right though right right that shit too hot in that though they own them bitches don't care that shit hot in the right but this back then though this one not on my son my fault used to take like cars like um for test drives and shit and never bring them back sell them and shit you know that's like in the rack that's what they do yeah well you just use a fake ID to do the test drive i don't know what the

fuck you stole an id something like that i don't know they just get to business take it bring them to the streets the niggas like me in phone no we battle so what year to the katie dad in um two years ago two years so that was 20 21 how did he pass was the Chicago gang violence or yeah backdoor-ass shit ain't no ob's do shit oh some back-door ass shit damn yeah yeah but is the same niggas that you hang out with like the duh the niggas for the Not the MAF, niggas, but like... No, see, folks, see, he's not from my hood.

Yeah. You know? Oh, all right, for sure. You know, folks from 119th, we bumped from the birds, me and brood them. Yeah. You know, they double a hooligans, me and foote them, MAA. We clicked up with them. That was the first, you know, it was like, like, if you see, if you see the dirty cups on

and shit like that, it's another artist on that shit. Yeah. That's goofy, but, but, you know, we was always one, you know? I got niggas at home. my circle that hate on me right now, that was in the midst with me that's, you know, that was connected to bro and shit like that, you know, after bro

dad, I'll just feel back off. You know, that was bro people's, you know. And, you know, the glue gone, so it's like no point to me fucking motherfuckers, you know. Like, people you see around me, I may have school game. I made a school game for my brother. Yeah. Great, great, you know.

I'll be seeing you going on live with your ops and shit. You know, that niggas in Chicago love doing that going on live with your ops and shit. I already do that. I think it was a old you did it a couple times right yeah because it's like an old video when you're on live with some niggins like roadrunner there's some role running niggie is that all right so is that a suburb hood or they're from the burbs or that's on somewhere in the hunts

they're in the hunts too and not a suburb yeah all right for sure yeah so the ragged like i say that shit it's just how it is yeah that shit like like she see see see like she see My fuck be fucked up by, like, O-block and shit. Like, that's how my fuck is moving in the rack. Yeah. Like, I'm talking about if you ain't from the rack, do you dry? Right. If you ain't from the rack, like, you old block though, you cheapkeithed out,

or you wood-dirked out or you, King Von Dau's or shit. Or you're eating whoops. That's a new shit, though. That's a new wave, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Real ways, like, stick forever. You know? Like, that's like, folk King Von Dier, you were forever his name.

Like you know, just some virus shit. Little Durga fell out of his name. Sosa, you're gonna fell out of his name. Like, no matter good, bad, rain, snow, hell, you know, you gonna hear that shit. You got a relationship with O Block? The BD's as a whole. Yeah, they're cool.

They're cool. Like, you know, we ain't clicked up with none like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't in two with them, do. Yeah. Ain't no beef and shit, but. It's like you're more tapped in with, like, the BD's, because I see you,

you and Herb got this song, right? I seen Farrow's in your video. How you locked in with Jones game? That's my little brother. That's fun, you know? Like, we click with them. You know, I'm all for them. Swer, that's my big bro. You know? Yeah, yeah.

My mentor. You know? Oh, right. Yeah, hell, yeah. It's like my mentor. A lot of people don't know that shit, though. But, you know, I talk to Big Brother, like, you know, on a lot of shit, you know? What kind of questions do you ask him about the industry and shit?

Because he's seen it all. He got fucked over by his managers. He's the guy's a crazy lawsuit. or something going against them, so he really knows what could happen. Yeah, and I'm fresh, so me talking to him, help me. Like, I just stay away from it. You know, it's going to let me stay away from it.

You know, I really booted up back on myself. I ain't never had no cosign or nothing. Yeah. That was the first piece of work from a Chicago artist that blow people's mind ever I ever got. Which one you're talking about the... Drish game. Yeah, a drink song.

Yeah. How did that come together? Like, how you and Herb, how y'all put that together? Sure, did the verse out of her. I did the song out here. I did the song at APG. At the APG studio. At my label.

Yeah. I left APG session, like 4 a.m. I'd be doing like 9 to 4s. I do 3 to 9s. I block it out with them. I love my label for, like, you know. How long you been talking with APG for? I signed on, it's crazy.

I don't even tell you this, but I'll reveal it and shit. Like, I don't need to tell you this, but I sign on Katie Devady. Oh, right. Yeah. That's how I know, bro. still with me. I'm assuming. I can drop down down right now.

God can strike me down. You know, I'm also to tell you all, you know, because it's all said and done. I committed to Columbia. And I ain't wanted. And you bailed that on it for the APG situation? Yeah. All right, so break that down, though.

So you say you signed on his death day, like the day he died, you already had that offer on the table already? I had two hours. I had 13 offers on the table. Yeah. And all. Why the other was bullshit. A lot of it was just low money

You know, I'm from Iraq I need that bag You know, that ain't gonna laugh Or you just gotta make you make sense with me You know, I got people to take care of, you know I come from shit, I got shit for me to do all the type of shit But But I committed to the Columbia

And shit And the day bro died, you just You change your mind No, I collided to Columbia And I was going crazy, crazy I get to talk with the labels and shit Bunch of them, bitch, just get to hitting me in January Yeah

I'd drop here, yeah, yeah, Yeah, after that it was a go. Every lay was on my phone with my DM. Yeah, so you had this wave where you were getting hot, then you get locked up. How long does it take you once you become free to actually start turning up again? I did it a million when I was bumped. I did it a million when I was bumped in the joint. So while you were locked up, you had some shit come out and start doing better.

And what's long is it? Splurge flow. All right, spurred flow. That was my first wave. And this before catch a beat. That's why I made it because of him. I'm rapping. just like him on that bitch i didn't talk to him before off that shit all type of shit like you know

like for real he used to be young as fuck hanging out at the store yeah my store back in the day 2018 i wish you would have kept going man sad i don't even see him on the mouth no more you know i salute him like you know i know he probably see this shit so i salute him you know like for sure like i did my first em off some craigs and shit like that and i didn't even like the song on craig that was my fourth like song um when i shot it on craig that bitch blew up, fool. What the fuck? I'm saying all the type of dumb-ass shit on that bitch.

I'm just rapping like how he'd be. He's just be talking. I just talk. That bitch did a million. That was my first million ever. I shot it. That bitch did a million. Yeah.

So why APG over Columbia? Like, what changed your mind? APG over Columbia? I was noticing a lot of shit. I pay attention to people, you know? And I won the biggest situation for myself. And then I was telling every label, like, my son, that shit I was saying done,

so I could. say it and talk on it. I didn't visit Alamo, you know? A lot of them, everybody wanted me. I was like, a lottery pick, you know? Yeah. Uh, shit, I think real long. Like, imagine just a little nigger.

I'm crazy. Like, I was paying for everything. So I had, like, like, 30,000. I went broke off 30,000. Like, right before I signed, like, to zero dollars. And I was trying to make money and shit. It just, I was so locked in with music that I couldn't get no money because it's like I was in the stool, like, you know?

So it was like, I'm, but to zero full and shout out my boy, Bink there's Dublock that shit you had Shut up my boy Bink I have for sure I just got a Dublock charm You know that me and being locked in

Like you know I got like you know So break that down So where does that come into play In this situation Dube block yeah Bink he's been with me He'd been with me

He just be playing the back He just popped out for real Like he just popped out Because I just got the charm And all that shit You know Like that's what the real fucked up About jury and shit

Like I billed with him though I've been with them, though. I got five projects. I got five projects. I got one with APG. I've been with APG for five months. Slick Almighty. I dropped Slick Almighty.

September 27th. That bitch is going crazy. Oh, yeah, that slick all mighty. Go stream that shit on career. All type of bangers on that bit. It's top to finish. Top to finish.

Top to start. Bang, after banga, after banga. On my son, I made that tape in two trips to LA. You know, I'd be locked in, you know? I made like 28 songs. The whole, you know, I did it five days one time, seven days and next time, you know. Shout out APG, they fly me out.

What chain you got first? I got both at the same time. At the same time. My son, both at the same time. It's been some controversy behind the chains. Well, one chain in particular, the schoon gang chain. I've been seeing you and Lil Zay Osama going live back and forth. What's the whole big deal about the schoon game chain?

That shit ain't about. None really, for real. That shit just, like, racked fucked up. Niggas hate, you know? I don't know them. They don't know me. Don't care of grade. Does they go by school?

What the fuck they go by? This all new to me. I'm Craig Gray. If I knew that, I probably wouldn't even use it. I'm going to tell the truth. I don't copy all the niggas on Craig. I'm a real way myself, bro. Everything you've ever seen me do and say and make it and bark and say whatever.

I ever want to put it, I did that. I made that. Or me and phone them did, you know? And I love for them so much. I take whatever they got going. I know and it gotta be vice versa my ops yo ops yo ops mom we could lock in right now me and you that's how it better be you we ain't homies yeah great great you know we ain't locked in so you and zay shit wasn't it wasn't nothing like y'all don't know each other in person it was just more some

internet shit man he used to live in the hood oh so y'all know each other he just living my hood he moved in my hood like I don't know how long he used to live on hundred for winworth though I told you I'm from 99 from Princeton. Yeah. Feel me? That's two blocks over, literally, like two, a minute away. So we used to shoot dice and gambling shit at this career. Oh, right.

It was never smoking, I'm like, you know? It was never smoke. It's the first, you know, time. And this all, because niggas want to, I ain't saying him, but niggas want to beat me on career. Niggers are on what I got here and what I do. What I said, I'm away, you know? They see a way going up.

They, how the fucking shoddy. And they hear, I guess. how the fuck he's screaming this and we I got the wave though how ya all that and I got the wave I got it I don't know if they say schoon right now don't say Tiskey don't mention MAAF don't mention shit

just say school when you're in the city of Chicago and see what gets said right after that word I think I now you said I feel like I heard him say school game or something before too but now I'm gonna tell the truth I did my research after that after the laugh I did my research

Like, that's what a smart nigga better do on Craig grade, you know, for niggas on your back or claim they this and that and this getting synced and all that. You should go do your research. What I do, I want to do my research. Yeah, I see me. And I'm keeping the buck. Yeah, I think they were saying that shit two years ago. I don't know how you guys are kind of going to come to a resolution on that.

But I doubt they're just going to be like, all right, you can have it. Guess how many views that shit at? Guess how many views that shit that I synced them when they say it's going? Guess how many views is that? How many views? Ten. 10K. Yeah.

Guess how much, when Tiski's state school, look at me, guess how many views be it? I've seen you say some shit too where you say that you blew up without a cosign and shit that you don't think he would have been able to do it without OTA? You can't. He can't.

When he came, I didn't have a co-sign there, do. Hell yeah. When I interviewed him back in the day. Back in the day. Every nigga, I would interview how to co-sign. Usually coming out of Chicago, yeah, but I don't feel like he really did, right? Everybody was going viral back in the day. He was going to interview him.

With no features. I don't think. So, okay, no features. Obviously his recent wave has been with the dirt feature and shit. All right, that's no co-sign on features. You don't think he people's posting this shit. If he's going hard and everybody thinks it's wrong, you don't think a viral rapper posing shit with a lot of followers,

just posted the video or the song by itself. You don't think they did that? He definitely helps. I'm asking, do y'all think artists did that for him? I think he got support. On his come up. On his come up. Nobody never posted.

my shit, bro. I'm telling you all this right now. Not feature you only want to talk about Feetzer. I just told you, Drin's game was the first big. Nobody never even posted my shit and said, Shorty Hard, go follow him. And posting my piece of work and said, Shorty Hard, go follow him. Nobody.

No big artist. Still to this day. So how you think you was able to captivate this audience and build all this buzz without any cosums and just doing it? What was the formula that you had? I believe in myself, bro. I'm like that. Fuck anybody.

Fuck the girl, man. I don't care what people say. I don't care what people say. I don't care people thinking, man. Talk cheap. Craig Gray, that shit cheap. Show me what you about, you know? And I'll live that too.

You see how I said that to you? If a nigger say that back to me, I respect it. Show his ass what I'm about right after that. Yeah. You see what I'm doing. I should speak loud than words. You know? You see, I'm mad.

I just did a four million and four months on my son. No cosine. And that's what the catcher be. No cosine. No cosine. No cosign. Just me and my label. No cosine.

Just T-skinned his label. On Craig Gray. Break down that song and how that song came about. I made that shit a... I made that bitch in Bing Basement. My dud block. I made it in the rack on Craig Gray. I was just bouncing off probably...

I was just bouncing off probably a trip with APG on Craig on my son. I've been hiding the song before I signed. I knew what it was. It just never had a second verse. I put the second verse on it a week before I dropped it. I knew it was. I made it in this basement. I knew it was.

I take two sessions on every hit. It just, it was a coincidence. Nah, but I do that on purpose now. But at first it was coincidence. Like, I take two sessions on every hit. Like, yeah, yeah, I took two sessions on. Like, I made that bitch in my bedroom. Like, the whole shit on YouTube on my, boy, MP, the Twins channel.

You'll see that shit. from Craig, he had a fucked up, bogus-ass camera. Guess what? I promote my people. I don't get no fuck. Run that bitch. We're chilling. They're twins.

One of the engineer, MP. He recorded all my hits on Craig Greed. I like it. Yeah, yeah, you know? You know, I got another engineer named Roy. That's Dug Block shit, you know? So MP Schoolin, Enginer. Roy Dug Block Engine.

Roy got all a catchy B, 3 AM, all that shit. If I ain't here, I'm here, you know? That's how I'm good. That's how I be going. I do a lot of shit by myself a rap, you know? Like, I'm a big schooling game. I'm big school. Ain't nobody's schooling like in my eyes, bro.

And you can say what you want. I really like that they say in their school. You know why? Because I started the way. I feel like they're saying it because of me. I ain't gonna lie. But it is what it is, you know. How you feel is not true.

Yeah. So don't blame. Don't shoot the message. That's how I feel, you know. There's a rapper that I interviewed from Brooklyn, who's like kind of from a different generation. He's more from like the early, 2000s, this dude, Shea Davis, and he was pushing OTF.

And then Dirk was actually like kind of a fan of him, I guess. And then all of a sudden, Dirk is pushing OTF. And then Dirk ends up blowing up. And like when I interviewed him and I asked him about it, he was just kind of like, he said he was mad about it at first. But at the same time, it's like he's in a different city. It's kind of like a common abbreviation you can imagine. So he got over it.

And him and Dirk are cool about it and everything. I don't see this situation being as easy to resolve. given that you're all from the same city. It feels like, and you're from the same generation. They were from, like, different, you know, 10, 15 years apart. I ain't going to lie, man. I'm going to keep it, but it's been caused after that shit. Yeah, but it's been caused after that shit from them.

And Tiske got on the phone with them after that shit. It's been cool, though. And we then came to resolution. Oh, right. Oh, it's been cool? Well, that's good to know. No, it's just happened, you know? I'm going to put that out.

It's like the pushing the P shit, Do you feel like that had played a part in it since everybody in Chicago kind of like on the... Yeah, no, I just got motion, man. I don't agree with grade, like, man. New option, you know, fuck about it. We're step for anybody. You know, that's what they need to be cap'ning the ball.

Like, you know, like, not saying it like that. Like, I'm from the rack, bro. All that niggas push over me, bro. You know, I ain't saying we kill or none of that shit and none of that shit because I don't, that shit, I don't do nothing. I don't do nothing. I don't do nothing.

No, I'm a nice guy, but. What? Front of the racket? I'm not nobody push over me You know Ain't no bitch I'm career girl You know

And ain't nobody I'm around with no bitch I'm career girl You can't ride with me You can't get in the car Me Can't hang with me Can't do none of that

You know On career I take on whatever for you You gotta take on whatever for me You know I don't realize Little nigga bro All that shit be about

You think of yourself As like a renegade Where you don't necessarily Care about Relationships Or getting cool with people And shit like that Because to be honest

The rap game Is kind of like a game of relationships and like people knowing each other who you get features from is a huge part of your success who you're cool with that will bring you out on stage is a huge part of your success all that shit i'll i'm gonna fucker in the gay though fuck sure i'm gonna fuck fucking i ain't gonna use that word i don't like run the gays but like for show in that area on creak grade i don't get no fuck i'm gonna dead brother because look i'm gonna tell y'all look I said I look at my castle turn

my way turn when I go home I'm turn I go do a song with somebody and I don't do songs and I don't do songs and that's my little bro that's the only song honey features and that's family we locked off real life

I can't even do music with a nigga like I don't I ain't ever dead music with no rap nigga on some rap shit I ain't gonna lie you know me and fire from the drop back

to back part two too like me and my shirt you got hell of shit we just be locked in getting high record you know you know Like, oh, me.

I don't fucking niggas, bro. Like, I saw the guy, like, you know, I don't fuck a nigga. Because it hurt my, it hurt my chance of life. It hurt my chance of life. Like, what you just said, I used to say, like, features play a big part. You better know that. You better know all that shit.

Who you locked in with the brink you out on stage. Be it, you better know all that, you know? You better know that. So what you better do is move right in life, you know? Like, I, for shit, if I fuck with you, you don't fuck with phone them I say anything like that if I'm gonna fuck with you

you don't fuck with you if I fuck with you right now you don't fuck with OTF and I said I got nothing to do OTF but say we cool we homies I like your vibe because I don't judge if you if I ain't into it with them

and you fuck with them and you're your homies you know what I'm saying piggyback off their shit Yeah like you my homie I don't got nothing you know but like I just said if you're my homie that's my smuck

but you cool with that other crowd that's not my crowd I'm not from to go around them because you're cool with them. You know, them yoke people's, bro. You know? We can be cool as here. Like, my cousin, that's y'all.

My cousin, people. I'm not going to go around them. I'm not going to go around them. My cousin. Like, you know, I don't hang on niggas. Dickriders and fans anyway. So with that being said, it fuck up.

My chance of a yes and no. And like I just say, I don't care about people. So, like, if right now it's going to fuck my yes and no up, I should be able to pick my own choice if I want to fuck with this nigga, this rapping-ass nigger or not.

not it be an automatic no because I fuck with you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like in the music industry, fucking with everybody and having lots of relationships is super important. In Chicago, obviously, that becomes a lot more complicated. And I also think there is value in just being yourself, having your music be your world

and only letting very select few people that you really genuinely fuck within. Because you're always, as a rapper, you're kind of always at risk of spreading the sauce a little too thin and having, you know, having your verses lose impact because people are just kind of sick of hearing you on too many different records and shit like that, you know?

I got to say my castle turn, fuck, niggas. If you turn, why would you need somebody else? I'm so happy my music go about myself, bro. I feel that. I followed that turn, my castle turn. I ain't heard that. Niggas in my DM. And I get to choose if I want a DM back in night.

I lead so many people on scene, rapping ass. So you can see it at night. And I know the internet fuck people here. People fucked up about the internet. That's why I only touched that shit. And that's why my shit go all the way up. I'm career everything I ever do. People

like it because they don't care. I just post shit. I don't want to take too much time thinking. None of that shit, bro. I know what's trimming was night, you know? For real. So, like, you, I leave a nigga on scene, guess what you're going to feel some type of way in you? We can have nothing. We can never sink to each other. Nothing.

Like, a lot of the smoke that be coming my way out. Never seen these niggas in life. Yeah. In real life, these nakes probably be fanned out if they seen me on my son, you know? So, like, if I leave you on scene, we ain't a lot, nothing like that. You DM you, like, let's do a song, let's get in it. And I leave it on scene. And for no reason, I just, you know what I'm, you know what I'm going to feel some type of way.

There you go, I'm, bitch. Yeah, all this, all this. But you're just saying I'm hard. What must have just been hard? You just dick rat acting for a song, acting. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of that in the record. When I DM someone and they don't,

It is a weird feeling of like you don't know if they just don't fuck with you or if they just didn't see it because realistically a lot of rappers and shit are incredibly busy and I forget to answer fucking DMs all the time I don't want people to hold it against me but sometimes okay I feel a little bit of that towards other people some people not in a predicaments people big people would die for your page people would die for my page if you got a thousand followers if you got a thousand followers you see every DM yeah That's what I'm saying. People have died for your page, bro. They don't know that that shit be all day DMs, bro. I can't even see shit. My shit grew up.

Imagine the upcoming artist, bro. That shit, man, I'll be having my... I'll have to silence my phone, cool. Like, I have to silence my shit, cool. People keep trying to call me on Instagram. I don't have notifications on, so I don't see it ever. People always do that to me. I don't know that shit dumbest hell.

Stop calling through that. Is there any rappers that you will want to? work with, like outside of Chicago, like that you go to? Like, who? Man, all the turn, motherfuckers, man. I'm trying to lock it in. I'm not going to lie.

All real motherfuckers, though. Oh, I don't want to turnth ass goofy. You don't care of. Throw somebody name out there. I'm just trying to see where you had that. On a music level. Bees. Bees.

That's a V cereal right there. He's hard. He's so hard. Stupid hard. Love is just how he comes and how he'd be bad. You know, he sell himself. He, you know, I got this shit called fire drill. I just made like two days ago.

Tap in these. We need a remix. What? He need a verse. Fuck that. I told Eli walk it down from him. Eli going to walk it down. He said he'll go get V's and get on it.

We know, Lil'Rah. I'll send it to him right now. My brother, send it to him. You know a little rock? Let me add drop it to you. Oh, it's not out yet.

No, I just made it two days ago. I'm from the ad drop it to you. You got it. Turn your head drop on. Yeah, I got it. No, Bob. My dad brother. Yeah, V's got a hop on that.

Anybody else? You want to worry with it? shit, Dirk, shit, eh, motherfucker, you know? Sosa, for sure, Dirk and Sosa, you know. I'm baby them, I'm Baby Go. On Career Grady. They were your influences coming up? I don't want to say your number out loud.

Just put it here. Who would you say was, like, your influences coming up? When you first started rapping, like, yeah, who you was looking at when you first started rapping? I'm like, yeah, I could do this. And I want to be like that's big? Just rapping-wise, like you was influenced by? Like when I first put out, when I first got that bitchy to the 18.

Yeah. What the fuck I was listening to that? Like a motherfucker. With social influence? Always. Yeah, for sure, right? Yeah. And who else?

Like, right now, I really want too much into music, so I ain't want to, like, have some of my fuck has as in, like, a fan base or this or that. So right now, I can kind of relate, you know? Like, this way if I can relate, I'm gonna say shi-stie. All right, for sure. Yeah. Appreciate you on him.

It's a fan base. All that, he comes to Trump. You know, I got a free shiasty. I'm going to get up out. You see what I got old. I'm going to see. I can feel it. I'm going to create.

These bids is drenched in Iraq, though. It's a bunch of these bidsons in Iraq. But you see, I got the real. I don't even let them. I don't want a real one. Like, you know, this is the real shysty. This ain't the... While I was talking to you?

$60. I started thinking if I search, like, big shiasty on Amazon, will I find, like, a bigger one? Because I feel like my head's going to need the biggest size. It's one size fit all, cool. Yeah, but I don't know about... Where you got your from? Where you bought that one from?

I'll be... Get my shit from Dix and I'll be ordering them. I feel it. How did you lose the finger? I got shot. What year was this? That day. Oh, this was the...

When you was on house arrest? Yeah. I was playing a game. That's crazy. So you got playing the game. While you was playing the game, you got shot in the hand? I was playing two key. Mm.

I'm full now. Oh yeah. I got off the subject, I've been to tell you, I was down 10 points. On career, I remember like it was yesterday, I was down 10 points, fuck. Who you was playing with? The Hawks, fuck. This one line, went, Trey Young, you know. I feel back off him now, and I don't like they way now, you know.

But this back then, I loved it. You know. Xbox, PS5, well. It was a PS4. PS4 at a time. You know, that's all niggas on hot s' dudes, do is play the game anyway, you know? So, down the team, we playing for like a hundred, my homie. I used to call my fuckers over there and fuck them up in Career and Great on purpose.

That was my whole game player that I used to wake up like this is what I'm from doing to do with them to call a bunch of my homies and tell them come gamble me. They don't want to fuck with me and dice on Korea, Great. Like, you know, I'm like that. They owe me. So they got a better chance of shit like that, you know. Final 2K. Yeah, like, you know, so I'm down 10 cool on Career Grade.

I'll come back. On 4th and I come back. I hit a three on Crea Greig, and that's a tag game. I told you in the rank, now I hit the shots. The bitch ain't coming through nothing, though. You know?

And they shot like seven times. Like, yeah, that's not a switch. Hell, no, this is back then. Before Buns was out. Byrd, Buns won even out. I was hot or none of that back then on my son. So, Ben, I hit them, bitches on Crick. Now, imagine, you, bro, growing up in Iraq,

you didn't heard shots just in a crib, You were hit some shots, like, and none of that shit comes through your window and none. Yeah. On Craig, like the, on Craig, like, the fifth shot, bust the window, like patio window. I was sitting by, like, a patio, like, playing a game, shit. Yeah. I'm only who's right here and shit, I'm playing a game. I'm like this and shit, you know?

Yeah. Just like this. On Craig Greer, the controller in my hand, the bullet broke the controller, like, the circle. The bullet broke the circle on the controller. That bitch, like, jam. Wasn't that one shot, that one in the house and it hit you? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I probably got hit with like the fifth shield. Like, I ain't even know I was shot. On Krigree on my son. Oh, my son ain't know I was shot. I ain't even know I was shot. And shit, I just started seeing a lot of blood leak out, you know. Niggas ain't gangsters.

Like, niggas ain't from running that bitch, nothing. Like, you know, I heard some shots. I ain't going to lie to the window bust I got down on Krigree. I'm a real nigga. I don't lie about nothing. Nothing. You know? I ain't had no strap in that bitch and nothing.

I ain't going to lie. I swear to God. I ain't got. I was on house drivers. I got called with two of them bitches, foe. Got caught on with bond. On May 30th, then I called my second one on Career Green like in July.

And I, you know, they was on my ass, twills on my ass, but I was fighting two different gun cases. They had to merge them together and running concurrent, you know? I had to bathe a raw-ass lawyer and shit, all the type of shit. You know, I was paying for my lawyer myself,

for no help for myself on Craig. So that had wound up having been. I was hit. I was hitting my hand for, Okay, Gary, I was hitting my in. Now I'm like, my brother was in the room and shit. My blind brother was in the room, Chris. I'm like, my homie, he got down and shit.

You know, he wasn't even no street knicker. He ain't like, he ain't no street niggas. So when the bullets got through and shit, you know, he got down and shit. You know, I wouldn't expect him to do nothing like that. He didn't have no stuff. You said got down, like he got up out of there? Or he got down, like he started out of back?

No, he's like, got down. Like, you know, when shots get off, go off. Oh, yeah, yeah. Got down like in the floor. Yeah, like, but like, you know, now, my brother's in the room now. I, like, no, I see the blood now. I'm like, I'm hit. I'm like I'm hit.

I see how little blunts. I'm calm as hell, you know? I'm a real nigga for, I, like, why shit happened blur versus the name, you know? So I'm hit. I'm hit. I'm hit in my index finger. I'm crazy great, look, I got hit in my index finger. My son, my shit going now.

I'm gonna be real. Holy shit. I didn't even see it until now. My shit gone. I got it upputated this year in June. I mean in January. Yeah. If you really pay attention, you'll see like,

yeah, yeah, yeah. It's in January. I drive a year year. I drop year year video on January 19th. I'm cast up in that video. Like, I'm wrapped up if you look at it. You know? What's it like, not having it?

That shit, regular. I ain't allowed. shit regular now like for my angle that shit feel regular as hell but it took time I got an amputated January knife why did you get an amputated they couldn't save it or it was I had my finger

for five years gang I got shot in 2018 that's what people don't be knowing I had my finger for five years and I went to prison with my head McCrack it just it grew back the bone had shouted it had me like right here came through the front and it had shouted

so when I went I had to go to immediate surgery like the next day I was on the band so I was property of the state I couldn't go to no regular hospital so they didn't even go to Cook County you know if you're from Iraq you don't know like that's you know

yeah on my son I'm going through surgery seeing inmates like seeing inmates that's in like in a jumpsuit folk like don't create a grade while I'm from to go to surgery like I'm at the hospital like that you know like I can't even have my choice folks

Because I was going to get violated, and they was going to send me back to jail for in the county. That shit goofy. So I copped out. I wound up coping out. That's how I wound up in prison for a year. I copped out for four years at 50. On Craigree, great, you got to do 50% of it.

I did two years, two years incarcerated, and I did two years incarcerated, and I mean, one year incarcerated and one year on the bin, and I had to serve 50% of that. So I did one year on the bed, and I turned myself in, they gave me credit served, you know, off the band. So I copped out for four years at 50. They gave me a year in for the bed.

I had to do a year in the joint. I was in Gillsburg. I'm going to create. I sent me downstate. I'm little as hell, yeah. I'm a young-ass, little-ass boy. I don't even know what I'm getting myself into. I didn't see everything, blood.

I was gone with nakes with airballs. The air-boys life, foe. Like, gone, like, 90. Like, life's like, fuck. You don't even have a discharge date, folk. Like, they're telling me, like, like shirty you you tweaking sure you how you hell like and they was cool as hell like they want no no murder man shit like how everybody be thinking my father be on murder man shit with

joints and shit like if you hold yourself up folk you good like you don't have to go through out of that shit and you ain't no bitch and you and people gonna see that and back off they're not like you know unless they won't smoke unless they yo opp or something won't smoke you know right so what happened after the five years that made you finally get the finger amputed my shit got the hurting when I was in the joint, folk. My shit grew back, curving. I had, I had, um, I had to go through immediate surgery.

Like I see, I seen fingers in jumpsuits and all. Like, I couldn't go to no raw-ass doctor, I guess, blood. Like, that's what it come out to be now. Like, I was just hurting and pain, like, at the time when I need that shit done for it, like, when I put my shit on this, like, I was like, I'm hit. My brother, I'm like, I'm here. He's like,

where you hit it? I'm like, in my hand. He thought I said in my head and shit, you know? So he got the tweaking and shit. I'm like, no, my hand, blood. He can't see and shit, you know? I put it on some water, Uncle. I put that shit under some water, I got shot and put it on some water, for. I'm a real gangster, fool.

I thought that shit was going to work. My shit was all about, like, 75. On Korea, I seen my bone. On career. I ain't a lot for I'm a real nigga, fool. And they fixed that bitch, though. I had surgery the next day they fixed it was thorough. Only thing, my bone grew back curving, fool.

And it was this shit that's called like gang green for I never wanted to get my finger amputated for I never had gang green or nothing I never had it You were just scared you're gonna get no like it was like they were saying like it was a high Had chance of it um later on in the life yeah and it could have got worse so like And crawled up your arm and shit and you had to get your home like it got to be in like shit like that bro I dropped tears like before I went to surgery almost Like two tears. I'm a real nigga for. Like, I'll never face some scary shit in my life, bro.

Like, people joke about that shit with me and all that. Like, my homies and nothing, because they know, like, you know, I don't even get no fuck a fuck. I'm a joke about that shit sometimes we have. Yeah, and we alive at that shit, bro. That shit, little shit. Like, the internet be just, like, weird as hell with it. Like, you know, I got that shit,

like the world never found out until I shot the video of money. I had a hundred thousand on me. I shot the video. I pulled out a hundred thousand. thousand on creek uh i went live shooting in my crib i bought a big ass crib just off signing and shit like big ass fat ass crib and then i shot the video money and then i was holding the money in a certain way they did my surgery so good you don't even notice it like i'm talking about the habitation that's what i'm saying it's like even when you look at it it's hard to figure out what's

going on because it looks so smooth it doesn't it doesn't hurt at all it feels totally normal now Totally normal. That's dope. Totally normal. Totally normal. It's crazy because I was just interviewing Sada Baby maybe a month ago and asking him like the exact same sequence of questions. Except, and his was a home, I think it was like a home invasion.

He didn't really go super into detail, but pretty similar. Just like that. It happened just like that. I moved on my OG crib after that shit, blood. And, eh, eh, and. And my son, naga, I dropped tears off that shit. Like, for real, that shit hurt my feelings getting that shit off. I didn't want to do that.

I was asking them like, damn, why? No, it was my reaction. Like, why? Like, you know, and my shit wasn't even bad, I probably just needed another surgery to, like, straighten my bone out. But they, like, ain't no point of doing it because there's a chance

that I'm like, do it again, start hurting again. Like, my shit started hurting real bad. When I was in the joint, the joint didn't want to touch it only because they were scared of a lawsuit. I don't care of grade. And they was going to have to take me to the outside hospital

or all type of shit. shit, you know? Nah, damn, me. That shit was goofy, so it was, I was boxed in, like, you know? So you feel like you're going to jail is the main reason why I ended up having to get amputated. Like, if you were to went to, like, a better surgeon.

Yeah, I probably could have caught it. Yeah. I probably could have caught it. Yeah. I probably could have caught it. Because the bone just kept, like, curbing, you know? Because they took this, the, um, the, um, the, um, peans and shit out, like, two months in.

And shit, you feel like? Yeah. Type shit. So, like. So like it was it just started like healing on his own basically you know Yeah, type of shit Damn, so where do you feel like you're at in your career right now and and what do you want to do to get to the next level and how much this shit changed with the label behind you Oh, he's going up to this guy man

Slick Almighty man All right on like nobody on my dad I was just about to ask you what's the difference between Uh, uh, uh, your your alter ego slick You got Tiski And then we got Slit What's Slick? That's him right now

That's he talked to right now Yeah Teesky More like a More like a You know From the In the trenches

You know Um Don't really know Nothing about Like Just Got a lot of shit Going on

And don't even know He got it going on You know Yeah Like Like a lot of shit Go over his head Badass

Shorter You know Slick is me Right now Like All this shit Like You know

Like They can't fuck with me They can't fuck me at all And I turn him on It's time to go to bed For hell, buddy, you know Who gave you that name slick? 4-0

No It's really T-slick T-sliq Yeah You know My real name Start with a T You know, that's what Tiski

came from Fee-M The hood called me T-baby though You know If you really really You know me Grew up with high school

With me and shit Like I I moved to the Burbs Abe Gray I went to Hill Crest Yeah You know I went to Perry Hills

For like 8th grade, like the end of it type shit, graduated from now, that's in Markham. So I moved to, like, you know, in the middle of eighth grade, and then I started going to high school. I went to Hillcress. That bitch be busting on career grade. They'd be going downstate all the type of shit and hooping.

It's a black school and the burbs. All it is, it's straight motherfuckers that move from the city. That's what I was telling you. Straight motherfuckers that moved from the city, like, that's how I'm in phone them got with each other at Hillcress. It would be like, where you from? Are you from? Where you from?

They'd be like, I'm from here. We moved here. And all their mom's reasons was to probably move their kids out the hood for a better, you know? And that's how the birds turned out bad as hell. That bitch, bad as hell. And that bitch, trencher is, bro. And that's the South Suburbs, though. You know?

Like, everybody says Suburbs, there's so many, like, the Chicago biggest hill, Illinois's biggest hill. Chicago, biggest hill by itself, blood. Just has hella parts of LA and all these different, West Hollywood. And you got Calibus. the basses and that's the same shit out there, you know? And you some bad than the other, right or wrong. You got more violence in one than the other, but it's violence here, well, you know? You're saying some shit.

So, that's how it is for real, man. It ain't tweaking off that shit. Well, I put it on for both. I'm saying it right now to the camera to y'all. I'm going to get a ground front row. And I put it on for the birds. That's my shit on Craig grade. Birds, that's my shit.

You know, it's a lot of other cliques out there doing their gang, doing their thing and shit, but we put it on, folk. Yeah, you can't, if you say Tiske, you're going to know me. You don't even have to know me. I don't know a lot of people. I never seen a lot of people in real life, and they probably will never fucking see me unless they buy a ticket to the show or something. You consider Kanga Key, a bird?

That's out of town game. That's not really a bird. That's out of town game. That's all I said. You guys had to show in Springfield. Springfield out of town on Gregory. That shit far as hell in Chicago from the rank. But it's like three hours, you know.

I just had a show in Springfield. I just sold that bitch out when I dead brother, nigga I got a bond Yeah, yeah I say his ass out of town Goofy, I think his ass is from Decatur You know what I mean?

Decatur, 20 minutes from Springfield I never knew this though Because I've never been in it, you know But you see I say His ass out of town goofy I think his ass is from Decatur Even though that's still in Illinois That shit is not Chicago

You know You go ahead my fuck and say The Burbs not Chicago Or the birds, how if I can get Downtown in 15 minutes How if you have you If you in the O right now, if you're in O block, how is not the rack if I can get to the O in 17 minutes?

I'm South Suburban. I'm going to say I'm Markle. I can get to the O. How? You know, how? Is that out of town? If I can get you in 15 minutes, is that, I mean, I'm asking you out of this, is this, is that the suburbs? Is that out of it?

That's not the rack. If I could get to you in 15 minutes, no matter where I'm at, that's not the rack. We could probably get to Compton in 15 minutes because it's late and there's no, well, actually, it's only 6.14. But if it was like midnight, we could probably get the content in 20 minutes. Because a lot of people say, like, it's ass from the burbs and all this. Like, what? I just told you all while I was born and raised on Craig Greer. And I mean, the fucking story about getting the crib shot up in the burbs is like, whoa, okay.

My homie, Katie died the same way. Chicago Burbs always been, like, treacherous club. He's got shot in the burbs. My home and Katie died the same way game. They shot his crib. And the birds. And the birds. So.

He got hitting his head on my son. I'm telling you all because I'm a real nigga. Hey, a bite you want to. Yeah. You know, like, you know, you see in a Drench gang, I say, KD. dad right in my face. The label's paying me for that pain. I don't care of great.

Like, you know? Like, I was dead all the type of shit, bro. I'm crazy. I could talk about it because, you know, I just really accepted that shit. Like, I thought I signed because he was, like, crazy. I signed on his death day, you know? So I'm like, bro, you really with me, bro. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I got him all around my crevel up. He's big as hell on my neck, you ain't like that. I got that shit big as hell on my neck, fuck. You know? Walk us through the night he died. You said you was there? Yeah. I don't really, I don't really recall that,

like that. I just, man, I ain't gonna lie. I was just fucking this bitch and shit. I just got that and shit. He won't let me use his room and shit to fuck this house, so he made me go to a hotel and shit. And shit. I came back and shit.

That shit just happened on. That shit just happened for him. That shit just happened for. You know, I love the fuck at my, my brookkin. I smile about him now. You know, I don't cry about him. I dropped all the tears and shit, you know. He's really with me, you know.

That's my dog. You know, like, he has still, you know, like, in millions of ways, folk. You see my music, right? Yeah. You're living on through you. What? I'm Craigree.

I don't play about him, for. Everybody knows. Another question I got to ask him. where one of the rowrunner dudes you try to fuck one of them one of their dudes bitches or some shit and it went viral

No no that bitch I'm always be wanting to fuck me fuck I ain't gonna laugh for I ain't gonna laugh for I'm gonna fuck me gang Yeah But I know you've seen people saying that on the internet

Yeah I'm gonna fuck me game I post the video I listen to my music Yeah They be getting out more shit too Everybody get out my music All low key and shit

It's so hard You know What about you gotta But ain't this fucked up though So like, I was just telling fun of them this, though, like, I got the rack so ho. I got this bitch. So I got fans that's three, five, six, seven. Like, really love Tiske.

And I got a real kid audience, like, right now. My last show at Springfield, it sold out. The owner came back, you know, I was backstage before I went on and shit, you know, just chilling. Like, you know, like, I don't be wanting to get seen this and shit, you know, for real. So, like, she came at this. She was like, you got to come back. She took piss and shit with this. She was like, you've got to come back.

We just started around. 400 to 600, 400 to 600 underage people. Damn, so the youth listening. So, all right, here's a, what's the message that you have to the youth since, you know, they're paying attention to you? Before I answer that, back to where I'll just say, ain't this fucked up.

How to think about it. You got a son at six. All he knows is Tiski. But you're my op. What are what you going to do? What would you tell your son? Like, turn that shit off? It's a baby you're talking to.

Do you know that this has happened, or is this hypothetical? I know this happened. I'm just asking y'all, what would y'all do? So the real kid is shit. If I really hated you, I would probably, like, do the thing on YouTube where it's, like, hide this user. So that she wouldn't find out about it. I'm saying. I'm saying.

Like. But, I mean, it could happen for sure. I'm saying. Like, so you're going to tell. So you're not going to, but I'm talking about verbally or what? You're not going to say that's the ops. He did this and this to Uncle so-and-so. Why would you tell your son that clue?

I don't know. I don't want to listen to anyone I don't approve of. Would you let your ops? Their kids or what if you're all kids were listening to your ops music. You'd be cool with it. Hell no. I wouldn't be cool with it, but on career grade. That's what's going on.

I would never in my life on career. I would never in my life until my son, like, I would never knock off the mouth. What do you like? Yeah. That's some hate that shit, bro. Like, I'll bet you got haters. I sit back and think shit like that.

I'm cool with being that kind of hater. Why? Because. I got enemies, and I expect my kid to take on all of my enemies. Bro, you're a kid at six. Doesn't matter. What the fuck you mean? They got child soldiers.

I'm not trying to make her go out and spin for Uncle So-and-so, but I'm definitely not trying to encourage it either. You got to look, game. You got to be real in this shit. I got real haters. I'm just showing y'all that to let y'all know. Niggas really hate on me. Like, that's crazy.

That's crazy. That's just crazy. So I don't be caring about shit. I'm a big school for real. That's my next tape name. To be honest, I don't think there's any. My next tape, I'm from the drop. I'm telling you out right now for the drop a tape

drop a tape in February called Big School man What if your kid was listening to 6-9? 6-9? Shit. I know it's kind of unrealistic these days, but I won't knock them, but sure. You taking a million to do a song

with him? Six-nine? Yeah. Fuck that shit. I'll make it in another way, bro. I swear to gun. Nakes be rats, fuck. I ain't fucking no rats, though. Honestly, I would probably and do it if I was you either.

I got motion again. Kodak is so big that he can kind of like skate past the controversy. I got motion again. That's shit to kill your career again. I ain't allowed. I got motion. That's why I say my castle turn. Why would I do that?

All right. All right. You say that. You see that right? That's a good offer. That's a good offer. That's a good offer. That's a good offer.

I am to do it so on the right. I am the door to do it so on the rat is a good offer. But the real nigga and you better not think you. I don't know why Kodak. You know what I'm saying? It's a good offer, though. Like, that'll make you go home think for a day or two.

But the real nigga, you better say, hell no, you know? Type shit, you know? But, guys' niggas things different and shit, man. That shit ain't killer's career, though, shit. Yeah. Well, we don't know yet.

God I can't have a hit sense. It ain't kill his career. It's only been a couple of months. He just dropped some shit. And another thing about life on career, another thing about life, that people understand, I'm touched to the real.

Shit only be getting to talk about. It's so much. shit that happened every day. You know, I ain't gonna get talked about for a day to two. That shit, and then it's gone. The cycle gone, right? You don't hear nothing about the Kodak and six-d-nine shit, right?

No. You know how he's still making money off that song, right? It's still generating every day. A week after that came out, it was old news. Do you know? Money still generating off that song every day, right? Yeah.

Because what? And it was for a vaping. New streams, right? Everybody, it's people that listen to that shit, bro. Not saying it like that, but that's why he probably didn't kill. But that ain't, that ain't no real-n-knit shit, though. What the fuck?

The show. All right. Anybody you want to shout out? This has been a dope interview, and I know that you're probably going to get a lot of people tuning into this one. Shout out my label, man. Shout out for them big schooling game.

Shout out of that. I'm going to fuck up. I'm not going to be for real. You know what it is. My heart big for you, man. We didn't came a long way. We don't know jumpers. Hey, you niggins ain't going to shoot shit.

They ain't got no jumpers, though. They ain't never shot shit. I think there might be something wrong with your water. Arrowhead is not supposed to be orange It's dropping Drop of drop of water Okay, I'm playing down It's lean

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