No Jumper - MaliciousChina on Getting Jumped Into MS-13, Skrilla Comparisons, Going Viral & More

Episode Date: November 3, 2024

Lush and MaliciousChina talk about her early days making music, getting motion, her deep voice, being put on, and more. ----- Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHE...CK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If they attack, we bomb back. We broadcast like Comcast, and this is Lush Uno, on No Jumper, the world's coolest podcast. And with me today, I got a really, really, really enticing individual, you feel me? One word, you feel me? One word, no spaces. Malicious China. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Malicious China, a.k.k.a. China, bitch. Sheesh. Thanks. What's cracking what you play, girl? Shit, just chilling, man. Glad I woke up today. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Somebody woke up on the other side of the dirt. It wasn't either one of us. Exactly. Here we are. Thanks. Thank you. With that being said, you are like a very, very fascinating individual. I first became aware of you several months ago.
Starting point is 00:00:53 My girlfriend, Jerm Free, very talented artist, was like, check this chick out. She's raw. And I was like, yeah, she raw, for show. But we show each other music all day. Like, it didn't necessarily resonate to that degree. Not just, not anything about you. I was like, she's raw, but I just didn't really, you know?
Starting point is 00:01:13 Yeah. It didn't, like, I wasn't captured to that degree, but then when I discovered you on my own, I was. It emphasized it for sure. It emphasized it for show. And you popped up. I will give him his props, MJTV. not exactly the most liked person on No Jumper at this current juncture. Ah, okay.
Starting point is 00:01:33 However, however, he puts on hard for the state of Arizona, which I don't think you're from, by the way, but we'll get into that in a minute. But on his feed, he showed, I came across you. And then me being the dumb ass that I am, sent it to my girl, like, check out this shit. He's like, she's all, hey, bull, this is the same, brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And no, you're very, very dope, have a very unique style. And I thought that it was before you become out of this stratosphere, you're famous.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I wanted to be the one to give you that definitive interview on No Jumper. So. Let's talk about the origin story because I feel like although a lot of the intrigue around you is the aura of mystique that you've been able to sustain, who is malicious China? shit i mean malicious china she'd be you know just doing shit trying to find a way to get to where she got to go you know and she just be locked in the studio 24-7 and just making like new shit like back to back and yeah besides the music shit i just really be about what my music says you know which is a
Starting point is 00:02:50 terrifying thought because you'd be talking a lot of shit we're going to get into the lyrical content all right but with that being said so um I was looking at you see the name obviously malicious china people are going to make the assumption that you're of Asian descent you're clearly not of Asian descent and then like the first thing that people are going to think because you're coming out of Arizona
Starting point is 00:03:13 she's probably Latina but you're not from Arizona right because I heard your accent in one of your previous interviews you said something like y'all or you said a certain word you're from the east coast you're from the northeast for sure right yeah I'm born and raised out here in LA oh rampart boulevard no friggin way I live a few blocks away from where you grew up
Starting point is 00:03:36 you're a rampart baby yeah okay yeah born in a race so you're not from the east coast nah but what's up with you pronounce a certain word that sounded so New Yorkish that's I feel like it's like the people that I'm around with everybody that get along with be from like Chicago New York so it's like their accent It's kind of, you absorb it to a degree.
Starting point is 00:03:56 It sticks sometimes, yeah. Okay. So you're from LA. So are you Latina? Yeah, I'm Chicana, yeah. You're Chicana, okay. I knew I liked you for a reason. Fact.
Starting point is 00:04:06 There it is. So you are Rasa. Yeah. Born and raised, Rampart Boulevard. So are you more like Westlake or Echo Park? I'm between Chinatown and downtown. I'm like right there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I used to live in a building called the Orsini. Are you familiar with this building? It's on fig and sunset. It sounds familiar. It's like the most burnt building in Los Angeles. Yeah. It's a super trapped out building. But it's nice.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Decent. So how, like, you don't have to say exactly how old are you, but are you an 80s baby, 90s baby, 2000s baby? I'm a 90s baby. You're a 90s baby. That's what I thought. Okay. So growing up in the 90s, early 2000s, that's a really turn-to-up area you grew up in. Yeah, it was active.
Starting point is 00:04:53 A lot of gangs. and stuff. Yes, so it is. MS-13 that's where it all migrates, all that. So, okay, so the building that I live in, I'm a block away from MacArthur Park where I live. It's a nice building. But obviously, you guys zombie land a block away.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Facts. 25 overdoses a day. Reported. Yeah. And then you got a gang of gangs. A gang, gang, gang, gang, gang. You know, MS on this side of the park, 18th Street over here, crazy riders over here, Temple Street up there, Burlington over here, Rockwood, there's
Starting point is 00:05:24 a lot of gangs. No disrespect to all the 25 gangs I didn't get a chance to mention. So what was it like growing up out there? What was your childhood like? We wasn't even allowed to like go outside but I mean like growing up like with a family that were affiliated with like MS-13
Starting point is 00:05:41 it's like you're bound to be around it a lot and that's where it like, well for me that's where it originated from and it was just really active. So that's just what I grew up around with and it just became like normal. You're very specific about the MS thing. You've said that twice now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:00 But you're not Salvadorian or Central American. I'm Chicana, yeah. Right. But that's typically like a Central American gang right there. But you grew up around a lot of them. So at that time, I mean, people started moving out that were like all, because that whole block itself was just covered with Salvadorians like super. And then most people started leaving it kind of like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:21 But it's still, yeah, it was just active at that time. So that's all you just seen the graffiti, the tags, like this emphasized, like right there. Were your parents affiliated with gangs and things like that? My uncles. They were part of it. Okay. Okay. So what was your first memory of I have family members that are a part of this thing that's
Starting point is 00:06:44 somewhere in between a family and a criminal organization? But it's like, it's good, but it's bad. and like, how old were you when you first became cognizant of that? I was probably like seven. I was seven, eight, yeah, when I started seeing that. I mean, granted, like, I know how to count my numbers at that time. So when I just see one three, 13, I'm just like, oh, okay, yeah. And my grandma kept saying, like, certain things.
Starting point is 00:07:11 And I was just, like, be nosy as a kid. I'm like, oh, okay. So you can just tell, like, as a kid, what's normal and what's not normal. You just get, like, a weird feeling. So when I seen it, I'm like, oh, okay, that's what they're doing. Okay. Yeah. Were you raised in a religious household?
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yeah, so like, I mean, I mainly grew up in my grandma. She's the one that raised me. Shasta Apalita. I'm going to shout out her. And it was more so of a, it was a Catholic home that we grew up in and stuff. So it was just like. So Christianity with special effects? Christianity?
Starting point is 00:07:43 With special effects. That's Catholicism, right? Yeah, I think so. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. His Christianity, but with a little bit of pa, pa, pa. Yeah, a little bit of magic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Thanks. I'm Italian. So, okay. Plus Jewish. So that's a bit of a contradiction. Yeah. But, okay. So I ask you these questions because there's a demonic tone to a lot of your music.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And you have this gothic imagery. And, you know, it's funny you brought up MS because that's a hood that's known as devil worshippers. So was that brought across your desk as a child at all? For me, no. It's just something that I found. along the way. So me, I don't, I mean, I respect everybody that prays to whoever I got some family members that turn Christian. Some are still Catholic, like my grandma. Me, I pray to the Santa Morta. Oh, that explains so much. You, like, you totally make sense to me. And I'm shook as
Starting point is 00:08:40 fuck. Jesus Christ, I'm a personal Lord and Savior. But with that being said, no disrespect. You feel me like, okay. So you're into, when did that, if you don't mind speaking on it? Because that's, to me, very interesting. When did that first enter your life? So for me, I had a home girl at the time, and she would like pray to her, and I just like would hear just the stories and stuff, and my mom tried to attempt to pray to her, and I just heard
Starting point is 00:09:03 just the negative side of things, but I'm like, shit, I want to see what it's about. But for me, when I started praying to her, everything started working in my favor, so I'm like, she's not bad. But I started getting into it, so this was approximately like three years ago. So ever since then, I've been like tapped in.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Okay. Yeah. I'm just going to ask, and you don't have to answer if you don't want. What's your crazy is Limpio experience? For those who don't know, Olympio is a cleansing, I guess, done through Sainte. Yeah, so Olympia, like with the eggs. Yeah, so what they, the crazy Limpia I had is one time I went to this spot, and this lady, she got the two eggs, she put Florida water, cleanse it. You have to close your eyes while you're doing the Limpia,
Starting point is 00:09:50 and she just shook the eggs all up and down my body. And I've done Limpiaz with her previously, but this one was different. So when she cracked the eggs, like blood came out of like the egg. Oh, you seen the? It was blood that came out of the egg instead of like, you know, usually a yolk is yellow. It was like, it was like a clot. Like it was like red. I'm like, what the f.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Yeah, it was crazy. And like she almost passed out while doing the Limpia. And she's like, yeah, we need to like have a couple more sessions. So you got some darkness in your soul. Yeah. Mainly it's like the people that's like around like me and everything. But she says because my energy is so like, it's very like a like, like, let's put it like a magnet. Everybody's attracted to it.
Starting point is 00:10:31 They just want to know what it is. So those like negative like energies are just going to attract to me like quick. And it's just like you can't control it. Interesting, fascinating stuff. Malicious China in the building. Okay. This is better than I thought it was going to be. So did you get in.
Starting point is 00:10:50 trouble growing up. Yeah, a lot. I mean, I'll get into like a lot of fights and I'll just be just going out when I'm not supposed to and everything. Mind you, I grew up in my grandparents, like in my grandparents' household. So it wasn't your mom and dad. It's your grandma. It's my grandma, yeah. Mom and dad, were they young when they had you? Yeah, my mom, she was like 17, yeah, she was 17 when she had me. It's pretty young. Yeah. So it was just like she didn't know. And then so I ended up getting raised by my grandma. Were they American citizens, your parents, when they had you? Yeah, my dad, born and raised in Compton, and then my mom, born and raised,
Starting point is 00:11:25 rampart. Okay. You are, this is why I did this shit. Okay, so why were you getting into phase at a young age? What was the main thing causing these fights? For me, it was the environment that I, like, grew up in. I mean, you constantly see, like, my uncle, they're biking to, like, the street fights, gang fights, and they'll be like, come on, jump in, and they'll kind of, like, push me out.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I don't know what it did. I use them. So like when I didn't want to do that, it's kind of like you were like forced to get into it because that's where you're around. And also too, when I reached a certain age, I got like jumped in. Okay, this, you are, oh. Whoa. Whoa. You got jumped in where? I got jumped in MS-13.
Starting point is 00:12:07 You might be the first rapper that's been jumped into MS-13 that's ever been interviewed on camera. And the fact that no one, you've never discussed this before, have you? No, I felt like I brought it up in an interview before, but they probably, I think they clipped it. Oh, they looked over. We're not glancing over, Nathan over here. Okay, so you were, because as far as I know, MS-13 don't quit rapping at all. Oh, yeah. They don't f*** would rap.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Yeah. They don't quit that entire genre of music. That's why every single hood got known rappers. So what was, okay, I understand why you first chose to get put on that hood. But like, what was it like? Like, what was it like getting put on that hood? For me, it was more so, like, I didn't have a choice. It was like my two uncles.
Starting point is 00:13:00 It was when I turned 13. So, I mean, I did understand that, you know, you get jumped by your gender. I got to jump by, like, 13 dudes on my birthday, on my 13 birthday. So when that ended up going down, it's not something that I wanted to do. And then once I got jumped in, it was just like I was witnessed to see some shit that I can't like disclose. Right. So when that ended up happening, word got around. My mom found out and my mom goes to my grandma's house, banging on door like,
Starting point is 00:13:30 toilet pack of shit, we get in the fuck out of here because she's not feeling like getting into like this environment. You know, it's not. So we ended up moving out to A-Z because she didn't want it to. Because my mom's been down that path. So my mom's like, I'm not going to do this because my mom's been through it. So she's like, I'm not going to like have her go through that. So yeah. Good move, mom.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Yeah. Probably saved your life. Yeah. So, okay. Wow. So you get put on the hood. Was it your 13th birthday? Yeah, I was 13.
Starting point is 00:13:58 So you turn 13 and you, what was fading 13 do is like, first of all? I mean, it's not really fading 13 dudes. Yeah. I mean, you can't, the more you fight back, they knock you down some more. but I mean I was taught even before when I was like fighting this stuff to get up but the more you do they're going like keep you up so that's why I got like a f*** up red right here because one just like kicked my shit so hard that I just I left it and were they around your same age or these grown ass men they're grown they're a really grown man yeah so what was like so when you
Starting point is 00:14:30 moved to AZ yeah did you have was there any communication like hey like I'm or did they try to talk to you again or is that kind of so they try to contact me at that that time but my mom ended up like shutting it down like yo like because they're my uncle she's like you're not part of it or none of that so they let that shit rest and everything they're like all right whatever like y'all lucky y'all over there you know what I'm just saying like little threats and stuff so as the years went by and I started rapping and start hanging around a certain group of people they're like we're not cool with that you know once around black people they're like it's a raise app yeah I understand that not that I agree with that in any capacity but from a gang
Starting point is 00:15:08 perspective and knowing the history of all that makes a lot of sense so i imagine so you're 13 when you moved to arizona yeah i was that kind of a bit of a culture shock you're used what part of arizona did you move to i moved to it was like a decent neighborhood we moved to chandler i mean that's like it's like a nice like it looked like suburban like it was cool yeah because looks like paradise compared to the rampart district yeah facts yeah absolutely we had a house and everything and stuff so it was cool i mean Yeah, the environment, everything was way different compared to out here. Like, the kids, everything, everything was just different.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah. So I tried to adapt to it, but I was still like, it didn't leave me. Like, I was still, like, getting into some shit out there. Did you kind of feel like, like, I'm the hardest motherfucker in this school? Y'all have no clue. Like, I literally got put on one of the most notorious criminal organizations. I've experienced things and seen things that you motherfuck can't even conceive of. Is that kind of how you felt?
Starting point is 00:16:06 For me, like, I wouldn't, I mean, I wouldn't. wouldn't like um tell them that like what i like that i'm in that but i like bring up the i'll bring up the stories and they're like what like they kind of like i'm sorry to hear that and i'm like nah like it was normal to me i'm like that ain't like right right what okay let me ask you this at what point did being creative enter the equation for you like were you very young and knowing like okay i'm going to be an artist one day or when did that become for me this just happened like probably like three, four years ago. And it was just an idea.
Starting point is 00:16:40 It wasn't like I had a specific artist that like inspired me to do anything. It was more so I had roommates at the time that they were rappers and they're like, hey, when it'd be cool if trying to start rapping? I'm like, nah, it's dumb. They're like, nah, we'll put up a bead, we'll write you your first song and just punch it in. And that's when it just happened. And I kind of ended up liking it. So that's how it started.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Okay. So a lot of people, and this is like the most generic thing to talk to you about. Okay. But here we are. All right. People be like, she's a gothic chick that wraps. Yeah. But they don't understand.
Starting point is 00:17:15 The darkness is so much deeper in you. You are, I mean, not to say it like this, an MS dropout that practices Santamerte. So like the darkness is really in your DNA way more than people realize. But do you, and I've seen you ask this question, you said, like, I just like to wear black. Do you like Gothic music, culture, anything of that degree? Yeah, I like listen to that type of music. I'm open to hearing like all types of genres.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I'm not picky. But yeah, that one I do gravitate towards if I'm not, because I can't listen to rap music 24-7. You know, I have to refresh my mind and I'll listen to like some punk, indie rock type shit. That's cool. Well, it's funny because like my girl is obsessed for Marilyn Manson. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:02 And she was like, I love this bitch. And she looks like Marilyn. Manson. She means it as a compliment. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. She's like, look at her. She looks like Marilynne Manson.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Did Marilyn Manson come across her desk like that? Is that even in your repertoire of influence whatsoever? No. I mean, I do see where people can see the similarity for sure, but. There's some Brian Warner in you. Yeah. I'm in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Now, I'd be witted to like to collab with him or like work with him. That's something I do want to do. But that's not what you grew up listening to. I have heard like a few of his songs And okay now that I know you're a Chicana girl Okay And from where you're from There's for show
Starting point is 00:18:43 You could you have permission to sock me in the face If I'm wrong about this Okay There's for show some Morrissey and the Smiths In your DNA somewhere I take that back You can't punch me Yeah
Starting point is 00:18:57 Is there some Morrissey in your DNA Okay no you can punch me Thanks And because like What is the connection between Morrissey and Chicano culture Chicano culture
Starting point is 00:19:10 What do you mean like the music? Yeah like why does every single Mexican from L.A. love Morrissey in the Smiths. I have not seen that? I did not know. Yes, that's the thing. That's a total thing.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Every Mexican in L.A. loves the Smith, Morrissey. Probably the cure or two. I don't know. I feel like maybe like with the music it's just like the deliver. It's like why do people? like the cure, you know? It's the same thing as well. It's just how they sing the song, the
Starting point is 00:19:41 melody, everything just combined. It's just something that gravitates you towards them. I think that there's a lot of like phantasm and ghosts and supernatural things in a Chicano culture that kind of resonate somewhat with that type of music as well. So there's like kind of an overlay. I could be wrong. And this is a colonizer's perspective. So. Take it with a grain of salt. But that's always been my interpretation. That's a good theory, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:10 That's how I look. And me, like, so when I was in high school, I dated a goth chick for a while. She was an original suicide girl. And she really turned me out on that whole culture. So I became really into industrial goth bands from, like, the 80s and 90s, like Morrissey, skinny puppy. Obviously, nine-inch nails, things like that. Do any of, is that any resonation with the U.S. whoever is, was that a part of you at all?
Starting point is 00:20:38 Yeah, I mean, right now, like, I do listen to still, like, deaf tones, the cure, everything that everybody already, like, is, like, you would expect you to listen to you, you know? But me, like, yeah, same Impala, Crystal Castles, like, it's just, the list just goes on with that. And that makes sense, you're a good 10-year, I'm born in 1981, you're probably 14, 17, 18 years younger than me. So it would make sense that those would be,
Starting point is 00:21:04 the gothy type bands to come across your desk at that time because I'm like, my frame of reference is like 10 years before that. But okay. So when you've, people wanted Malicious China to rap. And so your early material that I heard, okay? Okay. I want to say, is that one of the songs, right? Oh, yeah, that's like old.
Starting point is 00:21:29 We're going back to the origin story. All right. The other back door is another one. a very early malicious China That's early, yeah. Yeah, so the sonic tapestry of those songs are a lot more like
Starting point is 00:21:42 hipster jerk influenced, I would say. It's like almost like hyphy slash post-hyphy, post-jerk era, West Coast-themed turnt-up records with themes of you setting up
Starting point is 00:21:58 dudes and robbing them. Is that accurate? Yeah. That's what you're talking about. You're a song called the back door, right? You're talking about backdoering dudes. Yeah, other people think so the back door. No, it's not. No, you're not talking about getting in your ass. You're talking about setting up dudes and robbing them. Yeah, thanks. What is going on, Melissa Chiron? Is that what you was on? Hold on. I have two new names for you.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Hari Kari B. Okay. Because you're a suicide girl, Kari Kardi B. Or, um, how about, um, wait, I had another one. It was like similar to that. Hari Kari B. We'll run with that right now. Is that accurate? Because Cardi B was backdooring dudes, setting them up, rapping about it. But you're like a suicide girl, gothic version of that.
Starting point is 00:22:48 So why are you setting up dudes and how did that come across your desk? Well, for me, like it's just something like... And by the way, this is her in the past. She's involved way past this point. Yeah, way. involved.
Starting point is 00:23:02 She's had me up right now. I'm set up. I just rap about it. But now I rap about it, but yeah, those stories got true to it for sure. And I have people that can vouch for it. But, yeah, how it just, like, started just me just, it's not doing it because it's fun.
Starting point is 00:23:17 It's because I need to, like, find a way, you know, like to get some money. And that's just what I grew up around and, like, how to do it. So I'm like, okay. So I did it. And it's kind of like one of those things, like you go to a store, you steal a shirt.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Now because you got away with it the first time, you won't want to keep doing it. Right. Right. Over and over again. This is the other one, cardiac arrest be. Cardiac arrest be. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:41 So, but were you pretty much like getting influenced by, so you moved to Arizona, I assume because you're banged out already and you're like, you know, been through this, you're going to be attracted to dudes that are more about that life. I mean, that is who I attract, yeah. I mean, in the rap. Your vibe attracts your tribe, right? Yeah, that type of shit. I mean, yeah, definitely attract, like, different ethnicity for sure.
Starting point is 00:24:06 But, yeah, that's literally what I rap about. That's who you're going to attract. So you started kicking her with black guys when you moved to Arizona. I mean, that's the way that statement reads to me. Yeah. So whoever you started kicking in with at that point, kind of was like, damn, she's an attractive female. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:27 She could probably help manipulate dudes into some setups. Yep. And instead of, which so many women do, and instead of shying away or denying it, you're like, I'm going to make some songs about this. Yeah, facts. Yeah, because I can't, I don't know, because even when I got into this rap shit, I know how to put some truth to it. There's people that rap about, like, the females, I don't know knock them at all. Like, the ones that rap about, like, popping this or doing our artists. Like, me, I'm going to just rap about something different about what I real life be doing.
Starting point is 00:24:57 So when they see a female rapping it, they just think it's light, but. That's what I'm saying. Like I got you to it and I got people that can like vouch that. But yeah, I had to definitely do something that I wanted to make a story for. It's funny because you seem like such a nice girl. Yeah. When I talk to you, you're super chill. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:25:17 And you know what? Like that's why like when I first talked to you, I was like, like, when I was talking to my lady about you, I was like, baby, like, she reminds me of you so much. She's like, so chill. Yeah. And she's like, there is no. flirtatious energy whatsoever. She's just like a regular act. She's like a bro.
Starting point is 00:25:35 She's like a bro. She's like a bro. But you're not like you feel like. So were you kind of like a tomboy? Do you feel like growing up at all? Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean, I've tried to like put on a dress. I mean, I'll do it on special occasions. But no, if not I'm chilling.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Just like baggy shirt. Just cozy. You want to dress? I'm like picturing Elvira, Mistress of the Dark. That's the really what it looks like. That's what it looks like. When did you get your grill? Because I feel like the grill adds so much to your Geneseecois.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yeah. I feel like the grill is like very, very important. I got my grill probably like five months ago. Okay. Yeah. Do you have like plans to like continue to build like your grill and your like things like that? I definitely want to add like more like pieces, just different things like because I want to like mesh the grills. I can't just put like people have like the top and bottom like gold or so.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Like I want to add more stuff to it. Yeah. Okay. So at that point, you're making these, how are you choosing the type of beats that you wrapped? Because at that time, it was way more like West Coast sounding your earlier music. Splurge type beats. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's definitely like the, like how it's just a certain beat, you know, like the artist's cool too, but it was just the beat itself. Like, okay, I can, it was just slower like like BPMs and beats. It was just more that type. a beat, but once I started getting into like,
Starting point is 00:27:03 I don't know, like, once I started getting into like the, okay, let me find like who I really am, like my sound, this, because it takes time as an artist. Like, people can find their sound right then and there, but me, when it took that time, I'm like, I need it more dark, I need something darker. So once I started like, just trying to find
Starting point is 00:27:19 these YouTube beats, I just found one. And I'm like, okay, this is the wave, I'm gonna go, you know? And it's crazy because, like, your old music is cool. Yeah. It is. But, like, what you've been doing this past year, I really feel like you've come into your own
Starting point is 00:27:34 and truly discovered an aesthetic that matches you not only just sonically, but vocally as well. And your vocal style is pretty much somewhere in between
Starting point is 00:27:50 perkinset overdose and an orgasm. Is that accurate? Yeah, that's what people call it. Yeah. How did you like was how did you like reach that song because for those who don't know like
Starting point is 00:28:03 well this is trying to kind of rap like this you know yeah it's very it's very throaty it's very you know what I mean like you're you sound like you're about to pass out yeah but you still like pronounce your words very clearly
Starting point is 00:28:18 it's very audible what brought you to that song is it drug induced or is that just yeah I mean I'm mostly like yeah I mostly like high when I like record and stuff So that's just what comes out. And I'm like, okay. And even when I'm not high, I kind of like, got to like be like,
Starting point is 00:28:35 okay, I got a stomach cake. I'm like, uh, so that's like I start rap it like that. You're going to lean into the stomach cake. Yeah. That's like my... I'll be trying to call me like Darth Vader. Like this is what like Newport sound like if it was a person. No, but it's like...
Starting point is 00:28:53 Thanks. But it's, it stands out. Yeah. And to me, like, that's, that's for. really what made you jump off the page of me. It's like, she sounds different, she looks different. Thanks. You're talking about different things. And like the fact that you seem to be, it's like, you're rapping about things that a lot of people might be self-conscious about talking about, but you're very like, this is me, good, bad and ugly. Like, how do you get to a point where you're like
Starting point is 00:29:24 putting your insecurities on blast for the world to see and you don't, have fear about it. Shit. Well, I mean, as mentioned, too, it's just like, I rap about, like, yeah, like,
Starting point is 00:29:38 even the insecurities out of this and that. So, like, when people listen to it, they can rather, like, it's like, they got options.
Starting point is 00:29:44 They fuck whatever they don't. But the ones that do, they know that from me, like, if they do their research, like, yeah, like, it all comes from,
Starting point is 00:29:50 like, a truthful place, and if people won't feel it, they're going, they're going to feel it. Right. When you first started getting traction on your music, what was like the
Starting point is 00:29:59 first like big response and you're like okay i might have because people are telling you china or was that already your name was malicious china you're already your name at that point or yeah it was already malicious china and that's like known like was that some street shit originally just obviously you look you know you could be a china you feel me like yeah well i've been called china since i was like little so that's but the malicious was i just like stamped that like right next to china so it just emphasizes like what I'm trying you know to be and something that you're communist ideology clearly right no so when did you first realize that okay other people actually with this like I might have some traction here me was when people started faking with it it was like two videos it was when
Starting point is 00:30:49 it came out and people were like oh this is new you know but I was like in like my early like my prime but now like let's say like body bag right two different things between fucking body bag body bag that one hit over like somebody posted it on somebody else's page and hit like millions and people were like
Starting point is 00:31:08 well this shit's hard like and it was getting more good comments than bad but even so like all publicity is good so when I seen that I'm like okay yeah that's it right there how do you deal with negativity and negative comments I don't let it fazes me like at all like if anything like
Starting point is 00:31:24 I'm laughing with them in the comments. I'm like, oh, shit. But even so, like, they still view it. They still, you know, like, I'm still getting, like, paid for that. So I'm just like, okay, like, I don't let it, like, phase me whatsoever. In the beginning, I'm like, wait, damn, this is like a lot more. I used to overthink it. But somebody told me, like, you know, they still played it.
Starting point is 00:31:42 They still watch it or shit. So that's the mentality that I carry. It's still positive regardless of the negativity that they bring. 100%. Thanks. So, you know, people from Arizona, they have. have, they get overlooked a lot. Arizona has a state and a hip
Starting point is 00:31:58 pop and just like their music and they've contributed a lot. Yeah. And Arizona's are really, it's kind of crazy, Phoenix being such a big city so close to Los Angeles and another state they get overlooked quite a bit. However, there's like a really defining
Starting point is 00:32:15 culture. What would you say is like the biggest thing that people don't realize about Arizona culture? Because you spend a lot of time out there. Compared to LA. I mean, I'm not like around the people that make that music, but I am aware of the people like artists that are upcoming there. But yeah, they do tend to get overlooked.
Starting point is 00:32:36 I don't know, like, I don't know how to explain it. Because they're all everywhere. Like they rap about different things. And I'm just like thinking like, I don't know what's wrong. Is that what they're not doing properly? But it's something that every artist needs to find, you know, they have to pave their way or it's not original. sounds too common or like carbon copy like you know basically it's I feel like places like that is
Starting point is 00:33:01 difficult for any region before they have their own sonic identity that kind of separates them wherever else because and Arizona is difficult for Arizona and New Mexico because they're right in between California which has the clearly defined LA sound and the clearly defined Bay Area sound. And the clearly defined Sacramento, Stockton, Central California, you know what I'm, sound as well. And then, you know, you got Texas on the other side of things.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Such a clearly defined sound. And then there's these places in between them where it's, you know, a little bit and a little bit of both cultures combined to a certain degree, but it's not as there's nothing that really I can't hear a beat and be like, oh, this some Arizona shit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:47 Yeah. As of now. Yeah. And I feel like one of the things that made you stand out because I was like I don't give a fuck what region this artist is from but they are very interesting and unique so it seems like and like I said I didn't even know you were really from L.A.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I saw an interview that said Los Angeles artist and I was like oh they're so out of pocket they labels are incorrectly but you're really from here from here and more ways than people fucking realize you know what I mean like and so that That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:22 So at what point did the larger artists, because because in between now and then, you've collaborated with a lot of the top underground artists in the game right now. When did things start taking office to where you're working with these other artists and kind of getting more emotion? When? I feel like, it all just like, it was kind of like in little gaps, but now it was like more consistent now, but it all stem from like Lil B reaching out to me. Shout out to the bass, God.
Starting point is 00:34:51 We love you, Brandon. Oh, God. So Brandon discovered you. Is that fair to say? Lilby. Lilby, okay. I didn't know that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yeah. So he did. We did a song. And then. When was that? It was probably like four years ago, maybe. Yeah. That was like a minute.
Starting point is 00:35:11 That was in the very beginning. So it was Lilby. And then I don't know, Jeffrey. And then, yeah, shout out him too. So before we get into all that, so it was like, because this is amazing. right here. Yeah. What was the first interaction with the bass god like? So it wasn't like in person. It was like he just sent me like an open and I just got on it. So he sent you a joint. He's like he saw you somewhere online. Yeah. Hit you up on either
Starting point is 00:35:35 the gram or Twitter or whatever. Yeah. It was like yo you hard hop on this. So that's different than little B contacting someone and being like, hey, you hard. Let's do some music. He sent you an empty like I need you on this right now. What did that feel like? Because I'm pretty sure you were... That was, yeah, that was just random. I'm just like, what the fuck? It was just random, like, one night. I didn't know how to react.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I'm like, wait, hold on. I thought it was fake. I just had a review the Instagram. I'm like, okay, yeah, it's him. And I didn't know how to intake it. I'm like, fuck it. So that same night, he, like, emailed me. I went to the studio and I got it done, like, right then and there.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Were you already, like, aware of, like, how important this guy is? Yeah. This is, like, the godfather of me, especially for your generation. I feel like Lil B. without little b there's no chief keef kodak and anybody that came after him and shout out of them there you feel me love them to death but little b you know thank you base god thank you base god as well apparently from malicious china because so when you got
Starting point is 00:36:38 were you like when you when you got that empty from base car were you like oh this is hard yeah and then you're like did you feel pressure like i really got a tweak on this one right here yeah it was everybody in that studio and It's like, bro, it's like a little beef feature. You need to really, you know, because I didn't know my sound yet, but yeah, even so like, I got that shit done. So it's cool. Okay. So at a certain point, and we'll get into all your other big collabs and all that.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Yeah. I've recently heard you say on multiple occasions, I'm a rapper. That's what I do. That's the only, you don't have any other job or anything. This is what you do. This is what I do. What point did, like, because obviously the street shit is a big part of your story. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:18 When did you kind of like one of the streets should turn into like I can't do this anymore. I need to focus on music full time. So I had like one of my OGs like sit me down and just like have like a one-on-one conversation. It's just like, okay, so I see that you make your music and you're still doing this. Like he's just like you're going to have to pick one or the other. And I didn't know that I had a choice, but it's just like he gave me perfect examples about like certain people. It's just like, look at this person that is doing both and the word he had right now. So I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:48 So he's like, what do you want to do? I'm like, I want to like pursue my career. He's like, all right, then there you go. So that's how I move forward. Did you get in any like trouble? You've been to like Juvie. You've been to like county and all that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Prison? No, not prison. I've been locked up though for like some time. Okay. Well was like, what was being locked up like and if you don't have to say if you don't want, but why did you get locked up? I got a DV charge. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Yeah, but it wasn't my first one. Okay. So you beat your boyfriend up. Well, like my. X's, yeah. Okay. Yeah. And so, did, and you had to sit down for a while or?
Starting point is 00:38:24 Yeah, just for a few months. Okay. Yeah. Is that Yavapai County or? No, so I was in OBJ. Okay. Yeah. Not the best place to be.
Starting point is 00:38:33 No, it's not. I say that because Yavapai County is probably the worst place, the worst county jail to be in, like, you know, Sheriff Joe back in the day. I don't know if you know about. You talk about the tents? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tennessee, Phoenix. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:48 All bad over there, right? I don't know if that's Yopapa or that's Prescott as Yavapai, which is the 520. I know that both of those places are not cool to be locked up. I'm assuming where you got locked up was not cool to be locked up as well. It was dirty, yeah. And you kind of realize, like, A, and through your OG, you're like, I have another option. I have better things to do than this. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Did you feel like, did you get support from me? your people are where there are certain people that were like not trying to need to stay in the streets we need her to keep backdoering these motherfuckers you feel me it's gonna fuck up our hustle exactly nah i mean i really like had like my meetings like with them and everything and i just like told them but it's just crazy because they respected it you know so i'm like okay cool like i don't want to make sure everything's smooth and same thing like and they were scared of them curses you're gonna put on me oh god yeah no but even besides like the street shit even personal Like my people, my family, they support everything I do.
Starting point is 00:39:47 So I'm like, okay, cool. That's amazing. Yeah. That's amazing. So did the little B joint, did that have the reaction that you were anticipating? Yeah, that one was actually, that one actually went pretty good. Like, everybody was in shock for sure. And that's, like, what I expected to happen.
Starting point is 00:40:05 So. He don't do, like, that many features like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, Lil B, like, if he hop on a joint, it's not expected. and it's kind of a big deal. Exactly. People might pay him for features this or that,
Starting point is 00:40:19 but if he's going to reach out to someone like, yo, we need to do a joint. Yeah. No pun intended, but that's rare. Rare is rare. V rare.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Be rare. So was that kind of the catalyst of other popular underground fools? Like, I don't know, Jeffrey and things, people like that. Is that where that stemmed from that,
Starting point is 00:40:39 essentially, would you say? Yeah, it definitely opened a gate for sure. Because once that started happening, then people, started reaching out to me and I'm like, oh, okay, cool. So that's when I locked in and started doing, like, my features, like, certain artists, like, after that. You know, doing songs with Jeffrey, he's a talented dude,
Starting point is 00:40:56 but he talks about some really crazy shit in his music. Like, really crazy shit. Like, one of the main themes of his music, you know, is s dot a dot. You know what I mean? Like, did that kind of come up, were you like, yo, it's a little bit weird to, you know? So, yeah, I mean, I called it out
Starting point is 00:41:15 Because that's what I'm gonna do If I'm like, yo, like, before I work with you, this and that He's like, it's not real I'm like, oh, okay But I mean, it's business I mean, if you just want to work and get this on, let's just, let's do it, you know? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:41:27 You don't have to explain yourself, but yeah, I mean, shit. But you asked. I did ask, though. You asked. Yeah, he could have easily said no, but he's just like, look, no, like, okay. But, yeah, imagine if he was like, no, it's true. Okay, but y'all did a dope song
Starting point is 00:41:43 And that's lit. And then, like, recently, though, you've, like, been going stupid crazy with the collabs, all right? Yeah. Like, how did you and RXK nephew and RXPoppy come together? Yeah, two different. I mean, you want me to bring up two stories on how we met? Yeah. So let's talk about nephew first.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Okay. What was first? Neff for pop. It was Neff. Okay, so how did the nephew thing happen? So nephew found. the nephew found me. I already knew about him, but he just him he would have followed,
Starting point is 00:42:17 told me that my shoe was hard, and he wanted to do a song, so we ended up collaborating. I think I sent, yeah, I sent him like, this is like house music beat, because at that time he was rapping on anything. Because he did, yeah, and well, especially he was all about. Yep. You know what I mean? Like, you're dancing
Starting point is 00:42:33 nef, yeah. Klaus was a disco emoji. So, yeah, so we tapped in on Instagram and stuff, and we ended up collaborating on a song. Same thing, like we even We mailed each other, got that song done. And we just been trying to link for probably like year or two years. But every time when I was in L.A., he was in New York. I'll be in New York.
Starting point is 00:42:51 He'd be in L.A. So the timing was bad. We just met this year in person. Ever since that, just locked in. We've been. So, yeah, so that's how we ended up locking in in person. So we've been known about each other. And this year is just like, oh, thank God.
Starting point is 00:43:05 We met each other. And then with PAP, that too. We didn't meet each other when we made our first song. he was in we were both in new york but he was they're from out there right they're from like upset new york right yeah so they're in new yeah so i was out there in new york pap was out there he ended up sending me an open i sent him one back somebody hosted our song together and then i met him in person again this year when i met nephew they were both together which is cool because like there's been you know yeah they're cool they're not cool we don't know what's going on but yeah
Starting point is 00:43:38 You rapping with both of them at the same time type shit. So, like, which is cool to see. You know what I mean? Like, they're both really, really talented guys. And you fit in on music with them perfectly. Yeah. So I would imagine when you, like, met in person, like, the vibe and the synergy was crazy or what? Yeah, it's cool.
Starting point is 00:43:58 I mean, yeah, I mean, nephew's just more so, like, open arms, talkative and everything. And I'm like, all right, cool. Yeah. But, yeah, Pap, he's also decent work with, too. Very fast. they're both really fast. Like, I'm working with music. I'm like, shit.
Starting point is 00:44:11 They don't need a, write nothing. They're punching type dudes. Yeah. They'll be done in a minute. What about you? Are you a punching type dude as well? Yeah, if the beats decent, I can, that's why, like, I like to work in them.
Starting point is 00:44:22 It was very fast to get shit done. We almost made, like, a whole project. It's amazing. Yeah. So, recently, there's been a new arc in the malicious china wave where I feel like you're really becoming yourself. Okay. And I feel like these darker,
Starting point is 00:44:38 toned beats particularly like I want to say Philly drill inspired you know what I mean slash Stockton drill inspired beats that you've been rocking with
Starting point is 00:44:49 really just bring out the darkness, spookiness and your voice like do you feel like that's when was the first time you heard that sound shoot I mean the Philly sound I've heard it from let me see like artists
Starting point is 00:45:05 that have like been right now it don't need to be artists but yeah I mean Like, to me, like, Scrilla is like, you know, a big part of that sound. Yeah. Shout of Scrilla. I just did a show with both. Did you? I feel like you guys were, like, met to work in some capacity.
Starting point is 00:45:20 I did a show with Scrilla. It was me, Scrilla, baby Kia. It was. Wow. Yeah, it was the warehouse. They did the show. It was Neff. It was Papp and Zandman.
Starting point is 00:45:32 This is like Zanman. Yeah. It's like hipster Coachella. Yeah. Like, literally. Like, one. the fuck like that's an insane lineup right there yeah shout out all them so yeah no that would be like a fire ass collab but with the philly beats that's what's crazy i've been rapping like that but people
Starting point is 00:45:47 put it in the box because the producers that produce specifically for scrella quani kia they're all they all make those beats like yeah shout out all the producers are like thank you to me diddy broker and space coop and they all make those beats and i feel like that is like really um conducive to you making the type of music that expresses you the best because, like, it's got the darkness and enough space as to where, like, that raspy, gravelly tone has enough room to breathe, and, like, people are, like, your lyrics are front and center. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And you say some really dark shit in your lyrics. You know what I mean? Like, are you okay? Yeah, I'm okay. You sure are like it. Yeah, no, yeah, I'm okay. It's just what I pray to. It's just, like, same thing with, like,
Starting point is 00:46:35 when people do comparisons with certain artists, that rap about that stuff, it's just like, it's our, it's our cult, like, what we pray to and what we actually do, like, rituals and stuff. So they try to put it all in the box, but yeah. So that's what it is. I mean, and if you really, I mean, you could tell by now, I pay way too much attention, right? Yeah, facts. Way too much. You're like, this guy.
Starting point is 00:46:56 No, you're good. To the point where, like, you know, listening to Skrilla's music, he mentions deities and things. Like, he said some names or I'm like, I don't even want to repeat this name. Because I feel like I'm summoning dark energy if I even say this out loud. You know what I mean? Yeah. So he's and you know, no, just I love Skrill'l's one of my favorite artists. But when I heard that, it was like, okay, so now getting to know you a little bit and
Starting point is 00:47:22 knowing that, like you, there ain't no faking the funk, you about this darkness. Yeah. So it makes sense why Ores like yours and Skrillas would, we need the song, Skrilla, first of all. All right. Let's just say that. Facts. Everybody's been tagging them. like bro work with this female girl they've been spamming him like crazy yeah everywhere i think
Starting point is 00:47:44 about so um i have to ask and just to give a little background about myself all right drug addicts okay you know i mean like um the majority of my life addicted to drugs addicted to drugs currently um what's over for three and a half years relapse i'm i like being high better yeah i'm doing pretty good in life regardless. Exactly. But the drugs thing is pretty prevalent. What's your relationship with drugs like? For me, like, I don't, you know, I'm not the type to, like, push somebody to do it,
Starting point is 00:48:17 but for me, it works well for me. I could function and get shit done. I felt like as long as you can, I can admit that I, you know, I do drugs and everything. I don't care if people want to call me a crackhead or anything, but as long as I, like, get productive with my day, I don't give a fuck. So. Fair enough. I get shit done.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Fair enough. Do you feel like you've had suffered any negative side effects from your drug use? No, I mean, I've had like a, I mean, those like little like baby panic attacks, like, whoa, I think I took too much. But it's okay. It's a part of the trip. Not every trip is a good trip. But everything is just cool. I mean, other than that, it's just what functions for me, you know?
Starting point is 00:48:55 So if you want to call me a functioning crack kid, so be it. I don't think you smell crack. No, I don't. If I had to guess. as far as like okay so the vocal tone in your delivery changed a lot over the years you didn't used to like the orgasmic overdose style that you're rocking with now it's very different like when did you kind of like when did that alter and like when did you what did you feel like you kind of were like this is me on a record it just it just randomly happened one day like I don't know how
Starting point is 00:49:30 explained it but everybody finds like their sound that one day and me I was just like punching in the studio and I was just it was just a certain beat and I'm like well okay and then that's when that female like inside that's when China like awoken and I'm like oh shit
Starting point is 00:49:47 even everybody was spooked I'm like okay yeah this is it so I started like carrying it it's hard to keep that tone for so long but I've already mastered it to where I can just keep rapping like that yeah Perkinset she code What's the biggest misconception that people have about you? The biggest misconception?
Starting point is 00:50:06 There's a lot. I mean, well, what do you mean, like, accusation? You're just like, what do people think about you that's not real? I think I'm a dude. What? They think I'm a dude because I rap, like, because I sound like one when I rap. They think you're trans? Yes, very big on that year.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I never got that from you. Exactly. You do, like, the Marilyn Manson thing is accurate, but, like, Nah, like Maryland Manza kind of look like a chick anyway, so, but no, I never, that's, they actually think that or they're just saying that to be slick. Probably, probably that. They're like, bro, like, because I just did a song with a Zodiac and that song is going viral right now. So there's comments saying like, bro, like, how does she sound deeper than him? Like, how does she? Like, how does she? Like, so they're just like, say it all, like these, like I said, just like some slick shit. Right. it's probably just the tone that kind of has them like whoa like how you guys supporting this trans I'm just like yeah totally yeah totally so do you feel like um
Starting point is 00:51:06 what's your biggest obstacle right now my biggest obstacle right now like with his music shit yeah um I feel like it's people trying to put me in a box like people don't know where to put it at because there's like there's a bunch of like names that are reaching out to me and they're trying to figure out like what's your genre I don't even know what to call it so people are just trying to call like oh well she's one of like these like copycats of these like certain Philly like
Starting point is 00:51:35 artists or she's one of these so people are trying to figure out what the it is before like they get down to it. That's so funny because I have such a different perception I feel like you're the genuine article, you're the authentic one and I feel like you know these industry plant artists like baby goth are trying
Starting point is 00:51:53 to emulate what you really are. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, artists like you, my girl, germ, like these are the people that are really that which the industry has been emulating and trying to copy. Like, does it kind of get
Starting point is 00:52:09 frustrating? Not being understood or you're just like, you know what? I'm just going to keep creating. I don't give a fuck what people say. Yeah, definitely that. Like, I don't care what like nobody tries to like label me as because at the end day like where I'm sitting at. You know what I'm saying? Like, these people like, some people I get it, they don't, they're having identity crisis and shit they don't know what the
Starting point is 00:52:26 they are when they rap this certain shit but they'll find their way you know what I'm saying because I had to mock somebody to find my sound so I'm not I'm not perfect either but you'll grow to find your way it's very difficult to track your influence yeah you know what I mean from an outside perspective like I could ask you right now what rappers do you like
Starting point is 00:52:47 but I don't care right because you don't sound like anybody you know what I mean like you really don't you're in your own category facts. There's nobody that can say that they, you know, that you bit them or swaggerjack them in any capacity. Exactly. Yeah. So because they hear it, it's so new to them that they just have to, these like fans or these people, they're just going to put it somewhere. They're going to try putting it on a shelf somewhere because it's so new, they don't, they can't process it. They're like, we have to put this here. We got to put her there. But not. It's so new to them. They just don't know what to do with it. How do you find the balance between the darkness that your aura and image permeates and, like, being a kind person? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Because you're a very sweet girl. You know what I mean? You're a very nice person. You can tell you don't want to hurt nobody. Facts. But, you know what I mean? But you talk about some really gnarly shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:39 You've been through some really gnarly shit. Where do you find that balance? I find that balance. I mean, one, I just don't do it. But the balance between that. It's just, yeah, just focus on my music, but also tell the story at the same time, you know, because somebody's going to resonate and they're going to feel it. 1,000 percent.
Starting point is 00:53:59 What's the next move from Alicia China? Are we trying to get signed? What we try to do? Well, if the opportunity does present itself, if it makes sense, I'll do it for sure, because I'm not signed or none of that at the moment. I'm just an independent artist. But the next move for me is just still, like, keep working, just still making music. making projects, everything.
Starting point is 00:54:20 And I just dropped a project, too. That's just going crazy. It is going crazy. I think it's called 1017, right? 1017, yeah. Which, by the way, okay, I have to ask. I know it came out on October 17th. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:31 All right? Are you as big of a Gucci main fan as me? So I fuck a Gucci. But that was numerology, though. Like, I said, break it down. Yeah, yeah. So I'm not trying to be a 4-4-4-33-ass bitch and none of that, because I'm not.
Starting point is 00:54:46 But it's just a number I kept seeing starting from like the was the new year ever since like lean up to October I'm like why do I keep seeing this number everywhere I go I just see 1017 1017 I'm like I get fucking I'm just called 1017 then So that wasn't even there's no
Starting point is 00:55:03 intended Gucci man reference there whatsoever No but I f***ing them I do I have I still listen to him It's so funny because like this thing started Like I've been doing this for years When it's 1017 a.m. or PM If I look at my phone and see that time I have to scream out Brick squad
Starting point is 00:55:21 Like I just I have to It's something in my soul And about A couple weeks ago It was right around Before 1017 My girl was asleep
Starting point is 00:55:32 And um You know It was 1017 Yeah I had to run up And scream 1017 in her face You like Then she punched me And it turned out that good
Starting point is 00:55:41 But I was like Okay Maybe she Maybe this is a Gucci reference But it's not No. Whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Okay. People were thinking that, though. It's like some dark witch shit that you're on, right? Some brouheria thing. Okay. Yeah, it's facts. Okay. I'm terrified as fuck.
Starting point is 00:56:00 With that being said, like, do you feel like at a certain point? Yes. If you got offered a deal, but they wanted to change your image up, change your style up, but you still get to be paid to be a successful artist, would you do it? I gotta wear black I don't know they want me to put pink pink bows pink red red paint that now
Starting point is 00:56:24 I'm only signing you with pink bows no I can't like I don't know I feel like the label guy except me for me like this is let's try to wear what she want to wear now do you feel like do you consider yourself more of like an Angelino
Starting point is 00:56:41 or from AZ or like both all from like out here Yeah, are you from L.A. or Arizona or both. Yeah. See, that I don't know. The fact that you don't know what Angelino means, that kind of says a lot. Yeah. No, but I, yeah, I just don't know, like, what a label it is because it's just like, oh, Arizona artists, but she's not from Arizona. So I'm just like, shit.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Like, I still don't know. Whatever people want to call it then. I'm going to make it easier for people. There you go. She's from Transylvania. Okay? And not, like, that's not like a tranny reference. No.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I don't think. Wait Yeah, I don't wait, wait, wait I meant like Because Dracula's from there Somebody made a meme about me on the internet They're like They're like
Starting point is 00:57:24 Who let Mavis get in the studio And they put like They put a picture of her next to my face Wrapped in I'm just like Oh And that shit going viral I'm pissed But look you're all
Starting point is 00:57:34 You're viral for several reasons right now When you first walked in the building Everyone was like oh Break baby suspect They're all like Oh I know you Yeah You're heard
Starting point is 00:57:43 Because you've been going What did it it feel like because i know you've had fame you've had success but recently i feel like this past month your virality is through the roof is going up it's crazy when did you realize like okay i got motion honestly when i started going viral over that wwe video or that wrestling video talk about that oh shit yeah so yeah shout out adrian so his name goes by lord lord a lord Adrian on the internet. He does stunts like Johnny Dangs done flip them broken put him on the table all these like tricks he hit me up I was doing a show out in Texas recently and he was out there
Starting point is 00:58:22 so he's just like yo let's do like a skit like let's do some shit I'm like all right bit I know how to wrestle too so when we start practicing the stunts it's a lot of work so when we practice it we ended up doing at the mall and shit we ended up doing like that take that shit heard like a bitch but he's just like I promise you're still injured and I like some parts of my back still hurt I need to go to a chiropractic I got a clock in
Starting point is 00:58:45 but so when he shot the video he even told me like China like I just know that this is gonna go viral and it did we like we're like almost like a 200 million wow yeah 200 million's insane 200 million so you could like
Starting point is 00:58:57 please don't but muptas can retire on those numbers you know what I mean like yeah thanks so we hit 200 million and that's just our video everything else all the other platforms are racking up their millions on the page and I'm and I was just like oh shit I know her like you know so that's what that's what started it and then that's what kind of like people were curious like who is this chick and it's like oh and she raps too so I have like the wrestling community the car community and I have like the the rap community too so you know there's a big trend the past several years for obviously female rap is cracking and has been like one of the predominant genres of hip-hop, sub-genres for the past several years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Most of the women that are successful really lean into their sexuality and just, you know, a lot. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah. I love what the girls are doing and all that. But I feel like you kind of come from a different angle. You don't really emphasize, especially in your newer music. You might talk about sex here and there, but like that's not like the primary theme of your music by any means, right? Not at all, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Do you feel like that's a pressure that female artists feel? like, okay, I got to be sexy, this or that, and how do you deal with that? I mean, the females, I mean, what do you mean, like, how do I feel pressing about what they rap? Okay, so, you know, you got some of the most popular rappers right now, you look at, like, Lotto, city girls, you know what I mean? Yeah. Beautiful women. They're leaning heavily into their sexuality, and that's been, I would say, like, the predominant factor in their success for a lot of these women. Not to say that they're not talented, because they are, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:35 But you, you know what I mean? Like, you're a pretty girl. You know, definitely different, different graphic and all that. Yeah. But you don't, and you might, like I said, talk about sex and things like that, but that's not the primary theme of your music by any means. Like, do you feel that pressure? Do you feel like in order to reach the next level, that's kind of something you need to touch on?
Starting point is 01:00:53 Or what? No, not at all. Like, I feel like these women, they like to rap a body because that's just how they feel. Like, they want to, like, put that out there. And they're talking about, like, how they, you know, the sex topic with like dudes and shit that's their that's their niche's they like me i'm like you know i'm backdoor you at the same time you know so i'm just like it's different but i like i do mesh it like in some songs but i don't really put emphasis to it because i don't want people
Starting point is 01:01:19 to like put me in that category like she's like one of those i know i'm different like yeah no but like the back door thing it's almost makes you like a gothic chromas because Cromas is big on the backdooring like I said, Cardi B earlier you know what I mean? Like so that's To me, let me ask you about like the morality of backdooring since you brought it up I feel like it's important to discuss this
Starting point is 01:01:42 I always defended Cardi B and people got really upset of me because I was like, you know what? These dudes come to the strip club they acting like tricks for them to get set up by a bitch like they acting dumb already like that's kind of how I felt about it
Starting point is 01:01:58 Although, like, it is janky. I understand it. I've been going to strip clubs for years. I never got set up to that degree. I never, because, you know, I'm like, what are your thoughts? Do you think it's fucked up to back door people, or do you kind of like? No, I mean, I've been in that position, too, because I used to be a stripper. So it's just like if a goofy is going to give you all his money and stuff, but, you know, then you, just some females think of a different.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Some are just going to keep in the strip club, but if we want more from you and we see that you got it, like females with my mentality, we're going to, We're going to use it to our full advantage. Yeah, do that. But you would never, like, do anything like, do you feel like you would go back to stripping or do only fans or anything like that? Or is I not really, like, in your repertoire? No. I mean, I got an O-F, but I don't, like, push it or anything.
Starting point is 01:02:43 I'm just like, you know, if you find it, go crazy. There might be a, on the slundo, motherfucking malicious China, O-F, out there. Somewhere out there, yeah. I like K-Y-K. Yeah. And there's nothing wrong. It's 2024, you feel I mean, getting how you live, right?
Starting point is 01:03:02 Yeah, facts. That's what I'm saying. If they find it, then shit. There you go. There you go. What is the next move for malicious China? Shit, my next move is, shit,
Starting point is 01:03:13 working with more, like, more, like, bigger artists and getting more, you know, like content out there for sure with, like, people. But definitely just keep doing what I'm doing. Just like, just more, you know? I'm f*** with that.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Thanks. Any final words for you? for the people for the first really legitimate fire ass malicious china interview on no jumper on god so it's malicious china a kina bitch appreciate no jumper for having me come out here appreciate them and yeah shit shout out to everybody that fuck with me if you don't fuck with me i love you too okay would that be is there anything about yourself that the people don't know that you would like them to know i got a pussy oh shit she's really really Really a girl?
Starting point is 01:04:00 Oh, God. I can really cause some, like, I really call people that can vouch it. She's a girl. She's a girl. And I'm not getting any trans vibes. With that being said, I think this is fire. We're about to record a mic drop. Malicious, trying to go and crazy.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Back in her hometown. Los Angeles, California. Big fix. You play a pod de Lush Uno. And we up out this biotcha, this biotcha. Ooh. Thank you.

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