No Jumper - Mama Jones On Raising Jim Jones, Love & Hip Hop, Influencing Cardi B & More

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

Sharp and Mama Jones, the duo we didn't know we needed! They talk about Mama Jones' life, career trajectory, reality TV, Cardi B, Dipset, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper....com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And it's ashamed they all trying the best to duplicate me, but it's not going to work. There's only one of me. It's only one of you. Only one. Who tried duplication? I don't even got the twin. Mona tried duplication.
Starting point is 00:00:14 Mona. Mona tried her best. There's no good stinking of the witch, but I'm mad with her because she got me pretty much where I'm at. You know, between her, Larry, Larry made sure. My son is the first one, yeah. He's the one that was. You know what that was.
Starting point is 00:00:32 He told Moona, I ain't doing this without my mom because I ain't going to be the character. She's the character. The first time they came had a bad day. Bad day. You said you created the Cardi B's. What? And doge a little bit on that. How do you feel like you've created the Cardi Bs?
Starting point is 00:00:51 Like what do you feel like you brought to the culture that you feel like has solidified that? Well, she was able to actually. Cardi B is like a mini-me You know And she gets a kick out of it And she loves me too You know what I'm saying I love her too
Starting point is 00:01:06 Yeah But she has a lot of my characters Especially with her seeing me When I was on the show And she said Oh mama I love you I won't be just like that She got it
Starting point is 00:01:18 And she went And beyond You know And I always give word of wisdom To everybody You know But mom You can do and be what you want
Starting point is 00:01:24 To be Season 2 When we went on television And we had you in front of 2,000 people, right? And you were singing that psychotic record with the Cape on. We had one day
Starting point is 00:01:37 it's rolling, it's live, go ahead. To get the venue, remember? Mona said, get the venue one day, she told me, you and Freddie got on that siege. And 2. Point where we did, like 3 million viewers off of that? Yes. Yes. We broke that network right
Starting point is 00:01:52 there when she got up there with the Cape. So other than that, there was no other artists that did, on loving hip hop. Mama Jones was the first. To have a rap on there. I'd have a rap. And then Cardi became.
Starting point is 00:02:05 And I'm not no rapper. Oh, yeah. I ain't no rapper. Who wrote the lyrics, mom? But you make me mad and I could be what I want to be. Who wrote the lyrics? I got to give Freddy some love. I got me and Freddie.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Me and Freddie did. We wrote the lyrics together. You know, he put it in the right way because the way how it's supposed to be written. Now, Freddie, Freddie, who? I didn't catch you. That was one of our partners, day one for love and hip hop.
Starting point is 00:02:28 So I had, it was myself and Carl, he was co-managing with me. So when he left, he gave Cardi B our, right, a routine of how we do it. So he took what we gave and gave it to Cardi B and helped her with the writing the lyrics and all that kind of stuff. So you feel, so you said, my cousin, his son was the one that actually helped her. So you feel like you gave her a piece of the culture? that she presents today, if we say respect for me. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:04 That's wild right there. That's love. It came from the same team. Yeah. It was with us and then my co-partner, Carl, went over to her team. Yeah. After, that was season seven and eight. When Cardi B came on, that's what he started working with them.
Starting point is 00:03:21 So we already had the formula with Mama rapping. Yeah. And then it got reintroduceded later on. of course well let's back up real quick for we just run all the way forward you know i definitely want to know about her and just you know her her just her upbringing you know what i'm saying where she came from because she's marvelous man you know and i love i love how she bring the energy through the building and i've been watching her for a while you know i mean she's like she'd been on tv before there was her podcast or like that you know so i do give her respect and you know
Starting point is 00:03:55 her flowers for that but tell us tell us uh Tell us about your early life growing up where you were raised. I was raised in Aruba, partly. I came back to New York about six years old. I went to class, but I had to go to speech class because I had to get my voice out of that West Indian type of accent. And then after that... You didn't speak English at first.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Well, I spoke English, but it was like, you know, what do you say, mine? I don't understand. I had the accent. I had the accent then. That wasn't too good for me in class, actually for them to understand me. Because, you know, some people have accents and some people have deep accent. My accent was a little too deep.
Starting point is 00:04:38 But it was okay. I went to a speech class, got myself together. I did a lot of things in life, especially with my son. My son, he has really, he's been my whole world as, you know, me growing up. Besides his sister-in, they came along later, but he was my road dog. anything I did when I was out there on the block, you know, rolling, whatever I was doing, selling with my son was, that was my road partner, you know, no matter what, that's my whole world. He's still in my whole world.
Starting point is 00:05:09 But he's been to me with fashion shows, and I've sewn for me and him. I went to FIT. I graduated, you know, college from FIT. I was no game. You know, I did my hustling in between, had also to the highest-paying job, because I was, are greater, you know, besides still hustling, still besides working on the weekend, helping his godfather out at Broadway International. I've wore many hats.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Damn. But anyway, I did my thing. I did my thing. I really did my thing. I mean, when I sit back just now, just thought about, damn, you really had a couple of hats. Saying it all the time, not realizing, but now sitting here realize it. But also two brought up in the church. So it took a lot.
Starting point is 00:05:55 You know, I was in church 24-7. I really got to learn about the world and all this kind of stuff was when I turned 21. So what you was in the church? All your life. It's all my life. Being a little bad girl here and they didn't do a little puffy over here. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Why not, little puffy? A little puffy. Why not? 24-7. I stayed in church. When 21 came buck wild because I didn't really know nothing too much about the world. So I dived into all kind of crazy things
Starting point is 00:06:27 I wasn't supposed to dive into. But you know what? God always bring you out of different things and bring you right back on the right path. And I'm blessed to be here and alive to see even out to my great grants. I got great grand. Great grands,
Starting point is 00:06:41 beautiful great grands. Great grands, grands, they're beautiful. What part of New York? You don't want me ask just so, you know. Manhattan? Between Manhattan and the Bronx. That's where all the family and the things. So that's where you've been at,
Starting point is 00:06:54 pretty much since from Aruba you came to New York, that's where you was at. Yes. That's live right there. I like that. I understand that you always been a... Fashion's always been a big part of your life. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:06 You were talking about that. Why it's so important to you? Well, actually from when I was little and had my dolls, I used to cut up paper bags and different materials and some of my mother's sheets and shit like that. She used to go crazy. Did you?
Starting point is 00:07:20 Did I? Oh, my God. Especially, you know, when they had a certain good the good brand you can't do that but I loved it from then I used to make it from there like right now I can take anything I want to take and just sew it by hand you would never think that I
Starting point is 00:07:37 sewed it by hand because I sewed that stitch the sewing machine stitch so but I loved it I loved it I got the sewing from my mother she actually showed me since I was trying to make these dog clothes and stuff and after that growing up with me and my son I was making all our clothes you know yeah and mic so we gave you okay yeah after after me growing up with my son I was
Starting point is 00:08:03 actually making his and my clothes you know so kind of clothes was you making I was making his clothes like not so talk about Nasdha oh my god and all the makes you know not stick um and I thank my son again for that uh I just don't thank the the people of them that got involved but It was clothes that was different. A lot of it came from my background. Like a lot of the shirts had things of the Bible and different pictures of maybe Jesus walking in the water, the boats.
Starting point is 00:08:40 It was so fire, you know, unique. Then after that, started to turn the jeans. And it came really big hats. Well, my, it was in a ball and remix, remember? Yeah. You'll see the clothes with the crosses on it. That was her clothing line. And the ball, you remember the remakes, the baller?
Starting point is 00:08:59 Yeah, yeah. That was so close. Damn, I ain't seen anything of that. Yeah, and it was in all the Macy's. She had in a lot of the Macy's. That's live right there, man. Didn't even see that. We got right here.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I don't need that fan. You all, you keep one. Hey, I ain't going to lie. I can't even act like it's like it's a part of you. You love the fans. What? Let me say. And I think it's very lady-like, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:21 for a lady to be taking a tissue and wiping her head So, I mean, if I don't got it, I'll have to do it. I got to do. But this, and then it's also good for the ladies for menopause. You know, we actually get ready to start to do the fans for the menopause because they don't understand. When you feel yourself starting to get hot or feel sweaty because that menopause is like, oh, bra-da-boom, bam, you know.
Starting point is 00:09:44 So I'm like how you take it in as understanding and not let it irritate you. Because it seems like a lot of women that, you know, start to hit metapause. They, I guess they don't fully understand it or they don't want to because they don't want to understand there's a new chapter
Starting point is 00:09:57 that's coming into their life. You know what I'm saying? And it's a rough one. Hey, take it as frustration. Yeah, it's a rough one. When I started to get it, at first I didn't understand it. But then after I'm a type of person,
Starting point is 00:10:09 whatever I do or whatever I'm into, I try to mask it. I don't let it master me. So then I got to really get it. But I do know for a lot of the women out there, I want to let you know with menopause. One of the things that can keep it down a lot is making it to love.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Yeah. Come on, Mom. Oh. Okay. Oh, she's happy. See, no, but I mean, I run that one back to the house. You jump on to see this much. Hey, darling, I know, you run that one back to the house.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Why don't you say that? Why don't you say that? Because I want them to understand a lot of women out there don't understand to get it down. So to get it down and get a more better understanding, you got to make love you. You got to get this, you got to fight it with some good dick and stuff like. You know, you got to do what you got to do. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:55 And guess what? I felt that right here. Yeah. I felt that right there too. Fight the menopause from good day. Yeah. That's some good shit. I mean, whoever could get a menopause woman is a good shit for them.
Starting point is 00:11:12 It's a big fight. Can we walk, speaking of fight, can we walk down the cancer? I see you've got the rivers right here. This is, one is for my aunt's. and a sister mine's but my aunt she just passed my mother she passed so their names is in the ribbons
Starting point is 00:11:32 so that's live you know what it's like that to be you know fight certain struggles with certain people yeah but my mother was the greatest she was the person that instilled in me is that it's nothing that you can't do
Starting point is 00:11:52 you know you put your mind it, you give it to God, and that's what I do. And sometimes you have to actually, you have to actually go and take what you want. You know, you don't have to be so rude about it, but you just have to be that type of person and make a person understand, this is what I want, and this is how it should be.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And let me break it down to you so you can actually get what you want. You know, if you sit around thinking that's something and come for you, no, clothes mouth, do not get fed if you don't open your mouth. So that's what, with me with Larry, that's exactly basically what a lot of the things that I do that when I say Larry I want to get my I want to make my own gummies I want I don't know he'd come back to me say you're ready I got your gummies Larry I want I want
Starting point is 00:12:36 my own courtroom to judge this and that look Larry did it again there Larry yeah which we definitely got to talk about you I like that judge mama Jones Street Justice America's first social media reality TV court show And I like that because, I mean, could we say it's been done? No. But not to her magnitude and where she come from. Like, people know, like, to bring it to today's world, I mean, Judge Math, it's all them. I feel like Judge Judy, that shit, this time is past.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Is it classics? Yes. That time is past, and I feel like it's a new era. She got the internet. That's the difference. You got the internet, yes. It's a new error. The internet is never is undefeated.
Starting point is 00:13:21 She took the, I see you had the only fans. girl here, the Joe Smith situation. She tore her up in her courtroom. Which one? Who? What was her name? Joe Smith, the basketball star. She had her and her courtroom. His wife, the one that was on all
Starting point is 00:13:38 only fans and he was upset because he didn't know about it. Right. Yeah. So, yeah. You tore her up in your courtroom. Yeah, because she took my, she married. You got to stop your shit. So you say you don't agree with
Starting point is 00:13:51 you don't agree with women being married and doing only fans? No. That's not what marriage is about. No. Tell us what marriage is about. It's a sacred thing. You understand me? I don't believe in ways. Somebody should be dipping and dabbing and having
Starting point is 00:14:08 what you call monaille, twas and all that. That's not married. Marriage is actually one-on-one. It's you and your partner. You know, death do your part, love each other. Honor in the whole nine years. It's not going on the only fans in showing your shit.
Starting point is 00:14:24 doing this on the only van, and then you're going to turn around and say you're going home to your husband. That's not cool. Unless she's all, right, Mom? Some people know. Well, let's look at it, though, Mama Jones. Some people have made a big business off of it.
Starting point is 00:14:39 You know what I'm saying? You can do that. Yeah. You could do that. A lot of married couples, too. Well, you know what? That's on them. I'm with you here.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And honestly, they all know that that's not right. But if that's how they feel that that's what they want to do, them fine, but don't make it announce it to the world like, this is okay, this is where it should be done. It's not, that's not how it's supposed to be done. Yeah, not under wedlock is what you're saying. Thank you. You say, you understand, a lot of people can
Starting point is 00:15:05 take place, a lot of people are going to do what they do. But under wedlock, you say, that's a very serious thing. That's a very serious. That's sacred. You know what I'm saying? I know where she come from. I don't want my man or my husband taking his dick and saying some other people. But he didn't know. That's why you took it to court, because
Starting point is 00:15:21 he didn't know she was doing it. But not to mention, you know, the whole world's going to see this. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like when you go to Only fans or something like that, like it's not even like it's being done in private. You know what I'm saying? This is what I'm saying. This is the world.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Okay. And then, you know, you have to remember other women that, like me, that believes in, you know, honor, you know, your whole marriage and stuff. And then to see something like that, and I, you look bad. You look like a whole that's married. So then that's not cool, you know. Would you agree to say like some people like in today's world like a lot of people that are that were kids back then like are growing up today, you know, so they really didn't see that. We got to look at the demographic about how many people were married even in the 90s like that and then coming up through the 2000s. That starts to wither out.
Starting point is 00:16:11 So a lot of the people like their upbringings today, I don't think they really understand that like marriage is a sacred thing. Like it really comes from a traditional presence. You know what I'm saying? I agree with you 100%. The world today have done a lot of things that's really wrong and corrupted. Men, you know, women. Oh, hold up. So you're ain't with that shit.
Starting point is 00:16:36 No, it's okay. What the hell about? I'm just saying. Nobody coming for me. If it comes for me, I'm coming back for them. She's not knocking nobody. She's just saying what's being put, like what's being put out there. This is something she's seen.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And not only that, I don't like it because you got kids growing up. So you're giving them the wrong thoughts. It's not okay. Because two women can't make a kid and two men can't make a kid. Okay? So you need one and one to do what you got to do. But then you're showing the kids and the people out there that is okay for him to be your husband, your wife. So I don't knock nobody, hey, because some of my good friends are like that.
Starting point is 00:17:18 and I love them in death, but I'm saying Wiz for them to make it seem like some of them, they just have it like it's okay, this is how life is supposed to be, and it's not supposed to be. Let the kids grow up and decide what they want to do. Do not have it like that. I'm a role with her on that one.
Starting point is 00:17:35 You know, like I said, I don't have any problem with gay people. I don't have no problem with nothing that go on. But let's get these kids a fighting chance. Yes. That's what she's saying. So how do you feel about Duane Wade's son. That wasn't right.
Starting point is 00:17:50 That wasn't right. I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to agree with her one more time again. It wasn't right either. So that way you don't think she can go by herself and on this. I'll roll with her to. That's my belief too, man. Yeah. Well, that's why I'm Muslim, so that's my belief.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah. But you get a society, you should be able to grow up. Learn. I prefer a child to grow up until you get to that certain age, then you can make a decision. But when you're young like that. Talk about making sex changes before 18 is great. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:17 It's crazy. It's crazy. That's out of control. They said it was born like that, ma. That's what they're saying. They was born like that. It doesn't make a difference because they're saying they born like that. They wasn't born like that.
Starting point is 00:18:30 That's what they say. Let me finish. When I was in prison, right? Can I finish? Can I finish? Can I speak? Go ahead. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:39 But. Order in the court? No, in the court. All right. But I want to seriously say, you know, I just wish a lot of them out there just, Think about what they're doing. Don't ruin these kids in life. Let them ruin their own life.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Let them get to that certain age. Let them make their own this. Don't help them. Because when I feel that you're helping them, you're forcing them into something that maybe later on in life, they might switch around and change their mind. That's the same thing in the game culture. They put it on them at eight.
Starting point is 00:19:08 They're getting banging. I don't even know what banging is. Yeah. I think that comes from environment, though, too. You know what I'm saying? And vimeing it's a whole big. Some kids, like, you have to think about it, are either shown. Some kids, sadly, are molested and changed towards that way.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Because I'm going to be honest. Like, I've talked to a lot of, you know, lesbian people or, you know what I'm saying? I've talked to gay people. Like, I've talked to people like that. And they all, like, most of them tell me it always stem from when they was young. Yeah. Yes. Always.
Starting point is 00:19:39 That kind of switched the whole barrier to a lot of things. I don't knock them. Because I honestly, truly, I love them. Like I said, you know, I have it. My family, I have. I have. I have, I think what she's going with it is when it comes to the kids.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Like, you got to give these kids a fighting chance, man. I don't, I don't touch, when it comes to kids, I don't take, I go deep. Because it's innocent. Like, kids have the only innocence that's even in the world. You know what I'm saying? The innocence starts to go away as they get older, you know? So it's all about what you project on them and what you're still in them. Them saying, like, you know, you should let a kid and we'll get off the topic and get back
Starting point is 00:20:16 on to you, but just even when they say, you know it's up to a kid to go to the store, hey, you're supposed to allow them to pick whatever toy they want. Man, you better grab his basketball, dude. Grab his action figure. All right, cool. You want to push you. You really want all right, you'll make that type of move and transition
Starting point is 00:20:33 move. I'm going to treat you as such. You can never say in your life. Yes, because I know for a fact. Yeah. I know for a fact, you like basketball. Why I'm going to let you go get the truck when you're saying, no. Like you said, hey, we're going to get this basketball because it's part of you right now. You know, that truck is not
Starting point is 00:20:48 part of it. Now, if I see fitness and I got it like that, I get the truck too. But I know this is what's best for you. You know, like a lot of people today let the kids them make the... Is that what parents are supposed to do, though? Isn't that what parents are supposed to do exactly what she just explained? She says, hey,
Starting point is 00:21:04 I know what's best for you. Now as parents be like, no, they're going to let them be free. No, it's okay for a kid to be free, but you have to show them things. That's why you're a parent. That's all. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I'm going to, Janie, I'm going to give you, she had a count of 10. And after that, you're going to be on timeout.
Starting point is 00:21:26 No, I'm giving you the count of zero in my bus your ass. Yeah. Wherever I'm at, my... Your house is straight. Your house is very strict. Anyway. She don't play that, her kid. But, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:21:38 So you don't let the kid rule over you. Teach them to grow the right way. And then I have to remember some people might not have been brought up that way. way. So I can't fault the kid if the kid, you know, because I, I've had some kids in my daycare or by the way, I had a daycare too. I'm getting ready to start the daycare back again. But because I love kids. They're so innocent, so personal. Help me on that day. And it's innocence, man. It's innocence, bro. And they do the darnest funniest thing. I mean, even on my courtroom, for one of the cases, I had my granddaughter, you know, I had a dressed up on a judge thing and had a sit there,
Starting point is 00:22:11 and I let her listen. And I let her help me make the decision because, you know why, it was about another kid. So the only way I can get the real, how that person fear, I got to get from the kid. And just to hear her say, no, no, it's not right, you know, for somebody else, like she and her brother don't have the same father. So why would the other father come and bring her something to eat and don't bring, if you can't, especially when it's food, if you can't bring enough for them both to eat, then what kind of man are you?
Starting point is 00:22:45 You know what that base is off of, though? the relationship that he has with the mom. And mind you, you know, the mom could have set them type of regulations, not being cool, you know what I'm saying, not doing certain things, you know. So it's like, okay, since me and you don't have a good relationship, hey, listen, I'm going to make sure that I still do my obligation. I bring my kids something to eat. I'm not saying that's right, but if they had a better relationship and co-parenting,
Starting point is 00:23:09 maybe, yeah, he's going to bring the other kid. Let him have a relationship with the kid too. She probably don't even let him see the other kid. But you want me to bring food to this invisible, But in this case, he was once in their life for four years. And now that they're not together, you decide you're only going to bring for your child because his child is the youngest one. But then you decide not to just only bring for that child.
Starting point is 00:23:30 You can't do that. I've seen chicks. I've seen chicks, though, say, and I'll be honest with you, okay, since we're going to throw it out there. I've had, my baby mama tell me, even after me and her was over, when I helped, you know, with her son. And this ain't no bash to her, no nothing. But I just took it from what was said to me. He had gotten trouble in school about something.
Starting point is 00:23:46 I talked to his dad about his dad had hit me up. He was like, man, Sharper, like, say something, you know? So I go over there one day and I tell her about it. And, you know, she ain't ever told me that. And this is after we was done, she was like, you know, well, that's not your son. So you ain't got to worry about it. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, so it's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:04 So when that's told, when that's being said, you know, I didn't argue with that. Yeah. Hit her. Okay. I didn't argue with that. I didn't say nothing. I just fell back. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:14 Because she made sure she reminded me that, hey, That's not your son. But you know what? You know no matter. And that's my own. And that's no diss to her. No. I just respected her wishes.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yeah. All right, well, that's cool. But she's so wrong. Because was there somebody there to actually put him in check? No. And you came along to give a little helping hand? No. So then she's going to get whatever she did.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Because you're not, some, here he's coming along to giving this, this, like how you say, giving help out of your heart. Mind you, I've been there already for four to a half, five years. Okay. So it was like, you know, he wasn't even nothing new. Like it was two months. That's why I say like these chicks, man, like, they got to understand something. Like, you can't, stop putting people around your kids if you're willing to sever the relationship
Starting point is 00:24:58 after your relationship severed. Listen, they need what I'm saying. You might meet all the kids the first day you meet her. You know, a girl woman ain't going to let you meet the kids. My nigga as a man. For the first two years. My kids met one woman, dog. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:14 The last six, seven years in their existence, and they're six and seven. They've only met one woman, bro. Whether she's around now, I don't play that shit. I feel like, because you don't want your kids asking about a person. It makes you sad when you know your kids say, hey, what happened to whoop-de-wooop. You know, that must mean they looked at them in a different light,
Starting point is 00:25:31 just like you did once upon a time, even if you have anger towards them in some type of situation. You know, it's fucked up how this shit be going, and I feel her, and I like how she opened this shit up to us. Yeah, yeah. This is live. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Well, nobody's got a conversation. Ain't nobody coming to the house. For every marriage I had, trust me, you can ask them. How long did it take for you to meet my kid? I gave myself a good year before I even... How many marriages you have? Three. There, she said, you know, through all my marriages.
Starting point is 00:26:04 That's right. That's right, Ms. Taylor. Anyway, but they never got to see my kids. My kids might have heard me. talking or might say a little something. Say hello to so-and-so, never. That's why they married you? Because they was like, because she kept
Starting point is 00:26:21 something back from them. Like, you're not going to get on, you want to marry me? You want to marry me? My kids, I'm not just going to know. No, you can't just come over to the house like that. You got to build up to that. Yeah, I got and you got to build up to it and I got to get to really know. Because within, before a year, yeah, before a year, maybe something can happen.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Now, I brought my kids in getting all comfortable, all loving this man and then all of a sudden, we're not together no more. No. You don't want to have the answers. You have to answer to that. Because when her kids, I'd ask that question. I don't want to hurt their feelings like you said. I don't want to hurt their feelings. I'm sorry, he's not here
Starting point is 00:26:53 no more. He's out. I got to ask you, I think you were attending fashion school. Were you pregnant with your son at the time? No. I got I had just finished having him. But my mother made sure to it. She said, I don't give shit
Starting point is 00:27:08 what you do, but you're going to bring me that diploma. So you're going to school. She got me into a maternity school and everything like that. I finished up my school in the whole nine yards. My mother was so good to me. I had to finish up to go to college because I loved that sewing. She was great. She was a great mom. You know, she helped me a whole lot. A lot. I really hear them stories like that no more. I really believe yours when you said that my mom was good to me because you really come from that air where women wasn't too sidetracked like they are today. Oh, they're two sidetracked.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And you know what, but I get it, though. I get why women can get sidetracked because not enough real men and there's a lot of temptations in the world. So I do understand that. Larry, tell you, because up to now, like when I go back home, guess who I have? My grandkids. Okay. Each one of my grandkids, between one to maybe three years, I literally have my grandkids. Literally.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I was just. And after that, I give them when they get about three years old, Now it's time for you to take your kids, get them into a proper daycare and make sure to, trust me, I even go to the daycare before they're even getting daycare. I'm checking things out. No, I, all right, I touched on this, but I got to it. It's crazy because my man sitting right here behind the screen. Like, I just went to a, I don't even want to call it a funeral.
Starting point is 00:28:31 It seemed like just a celebration of life. Okay, yes. Celebration. You know, I went to my boy, Donnie's mom's, you know what I'm saying, celebration of life. and everything from her friends to just people that knew her, they all talked about how much she was into family and how much she loved her grandkids. How much she loved, it was crazy,
Starting point is 00:28:51 like how much she loved her grandkids versus what I hear in the streets these days, like grandparents don't be doing shit unless you can give them a couple bucks. I come from that era, and they say she just wanted to be around, like she was always around. She was so excited to go see her grandkids. These days, you talk to,
Starting point is 00:29:08 chicks, you ask them, like, man, where do the grandparents? My shit, my mama won't, my mama don't want to, like, really do it unless I got something for it. And there's a lot of stories that are like that. You know what I mean? So to hear that there are still some cool grandparents around, they're like, hey, man, bring my grandbabies over here. Where they had, I miss them.
Starting point is 00:29:25 I don't care if they come over here for a week, two weeks. These days, grandparents, they want something. Yes. Something in return or something's got to be given. I love, I love my great-grand. My great-grands. My great-grands. My dad.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Bust down the whole love and hip hop check on them kids. Yeah. I mean, the whole check. They had problems with me. Times I brought them with me. They took my mom. I said, listen, Mama had to go to work, and this is my job, and this is reality. And this is all about reality.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Come on, sit down right over here. But I hate to have to do that, hey, daddy. But it just, it was fitting, you know, you know what I'm saying? It's love, like, and just to hear that there's, you know what I'm saying, still some grandparents that really like take kind of like to their grandbabies, man, because there's a lot that don't. It's crazy. Like, and people know I'm not lying when I say that. Like, there's a lot of grandparents that really don't take to their grandkids at all.
Starting point is 00:30:15 It's like they have this bitterness already towards their kids. They treated like a shitty marriage that didn't work out. Like, my daughter, they said, oh, no, because, you know, she cried. Oh, I said, so, so what's supposed to do? Oh, oh, my, I don't know if you want to watch. I said, you go about your business. She's going to be a right. Come back.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Now the kid don't even want to go to you. Right. I love about you because you don't give a fuck about the adult's problems. Hey, bring them babies over you. I don't get a fuck what y'all got going on.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Y'all solve that shit and your own matters. It don't have nothing to do with them kids. Nothing. Bring them kids up over here. They're innocent. They're innocent. That's my whole life.
Starting point is 00:30:51 That and making sure on Sunday that everybody gets together. Like, I'm out here, my family in Vegas here. And even though I'm not home on Sunday to cook, that's what we, because they still cook.
Starting point is 00:31:03 That's why he was over 210. Y'all was coming in from Vegas? Yeah. You was driving in from Vegas? That's why when I seen like your direction, y'all was trying to go to the store earlier. I was like, you're on too long. Y'all coming in from somewhere.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Y'all, I didn't know. I said y'all had to be coming from Vegas. Yeah, yeah. That's a lot. And we just cooked Sunday, but we all go on live together. Like I do live. So I'm in Vegas and my kism is in Jersey.
Starting point is 00:31:28 They know better because God forbid, and I don't put this in the ear, can I. But God forbid, if I pass or anything, I want them to be able to say, well, I'm, I'm, I'm able to contribute and do my tradition. I'm able to cook. You know, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Oh, my God. I'm going to make Mommy famous sweet potato pie recipe. I want you to know everything like this. There's one recipe for my mother when she passed. I didn't get to get. You'd be out in Jersey. You'd be cooking that. That's where you be doing Sundays?
Starting point is 00:31:57 I got a few things to handle out of Jersey. So I'm definitely going to come back to. Come do. Yeah, a few things. You got a hundred thousand reasons. to hit New Jersey. Feel me, Donnie? And I better be one of them.
Starting point is 00:32:12 I better be one of the first stops. So that way if any day happens, I can at least say I got some good food before it all went to bear. And her daughter Alexis, she does the bakery. And then Kadez, it's like all her daughters. They all work. Everybody. And my daughter baked her ass.
Starting point is 00:32:30 That's because of my niece over here baked it. She baked her. She taught her, taught my daughter how, and my daughter wanted to do bacon. She's so, yeah. I'm trying to keep niggas fat. You just don't want chicks to want y'all, niggas.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Yeah, keep them fat, keep them pumped out. Like, hey, man, but see what y'all felt to realize is, they like a nigga that's eating good. Because if a woman's sitting there making sure that nigger eating good, he must be doing something right. What?
Starting point is 00:32:52 So you're not really keeping him from, you know, you're not putting him in any type of demise. No, you're really crowning him. You got to make sure good food, good sex. You know, no problem. You don't want your man to run to the next woman. You got to make sure that you serve him right.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And he got to serve him right, too. Trust me. You have three husbands. So that said, hey, listen. When you mess up, when you mess up, guess what? Bye-bye. Do you feel, listen, because you got a lot of game about you, a lot of knowledge about you. So I got to ask you, do you feel like every woman that's comfortable with leaving the man she's with always has one weight in her on the rebound?
Starting point is 00:33:35 there's at least one she's thinking about already? I don't know about them. That was in your book. And why many women cheat? You got that in your book. I'm like this. I don't believe in the cheating thing. And when I know for a fact that me and my husband
Starting point is 00:33:51 were not getting along, it's not like that. And somebody happened to come along and spark my p-pum-pun get all wet and stuff. I tell it with me, playing this day, I tell you, that's how you know when you, when you, when you, when you, This is what you're wrong. Yes. Bark, kid. Get sweat.
Starting point is 00:34:08 No, but how you're going to, how you don't know that you got some kind of feeling for this man? Something got to Twitch and it got to be the Pompon. But he said, Talk that shit. Think it about it. You said, if you think about it. Yeah, when you think about it,
Starting point is 00:34:21 but I'm saying when I see this man and this is how I'm feeling, and I feel bad because I can't do this no more. I can't do this no more. You're not keeping up to how we first started out, and I'm still keeping up how I, I treat my men like king. But when you start slacking on how you treat me, I don't have time for it.
Starting point is 00:34:41 So now what happened. Some day dinners ain't going to be the best no more for you. It's not going to be the best for you, brother. You might walk in my house and you might be at the beach. I'll turn my whole house into the beach, sand, pool, all kind of stuff. I'll turn my whole house into a park with grass and bench and stuff. That's just having money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And just wanting to fuck with the family. Just want to fuck with the family. No. I love treating my mom. men really good. I really do. Yeah, she turned it to a whole island. It was sand, real sand
Starting point is 00:35:11 in the living room. The pool. I see where I see come over to the sand. And they walked into a Bahamas. He said, I'm calling Jim right and I tell Jim, I'm at Jones Beach. I said, oh shit, okay. So that's what we're going to name it. Yo, he said, Jim,
Starting point is 00:35:26 your mother got a whole beach in here. What is going on? And then he went to your manager. When you're managing dancing. So you and you and, you and Jim Jones, which you call him Jimmy. I call him Jammal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:39 You and your relationship has been, you know, and that's a dope name. I like that. Like, Mama always got a different, like, hold on, I call, hey, something different, you know, I love that. You know, I don't even want to call them next. I feel like that's just something your mama call you, bro. I respect them type of names. Like, you know how I niggas say, hey, man, like, yeah, my mama might call me that nigga, but you're not.
Starting point is 00:35:59 You know what I'm saying? Unless you go way back with him, if you go way back with him going up. I don't go way back with him. So I know my heart that his mama call him and y'all get mad at the gym if he's called me some of my hey homie hold on let's talk for a second
Starting point is 00:36:12 hey that ain't my name like respectfully you know what I love that I love that so I respect that like that's something your mom's call you bro so you got that relationship where I don't got that relationship I don't feel bad
Starting point is 00:36:24 because a couple of people that came into me so you know when I'm talking on radio or TV and I say Jomo so what's up with Jama I said you know him? I said, do I know you?
Starting point is 00:36:35 Yeah, because that's something that you gotta know. You can't call the gentleman. You know how you look. You know how you look at Brony and look at LeBron? Yeah. And then you see the certain DNA don't add up. I was calling LeBron James Brony before I even knew. But sometimes the DNA don't add up.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Yeah. If you have the opportunity to be around Jim Jones and you're around her, you see the DNA connected. meaning the hustle. He does not stop working. Well, if you listen to, like, and I love the story that she told earlier about it, she was like, that was my baby boy.
Starting point is 00:37:13 She was like, he moved with me. She was like, he saw what I saw, you know, and I made him understand certain things about this lifestyle. You know what I'm saying? To where he raised him. So, yeah, you're going to see a lot of her and him. And I think that's any kid.
Starting point is 00:37:29 That's how you know she was really involved with this nigga, because if it can show in his character and you can sit there and say, hey, well, you know, when they come together, you can just tell his magic. The only thing I'm saying is like Jordan, I'm saying the DNA thing.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Yeah. Jordan kids couldn't jump like that, like Jordan. You know why? You know why? No, it ain't that. I just simply feel like, look at Jordan.
Starting point is 00:37:52 He wasn't around his kids, man. He wasn't there for it. Do we really think, when do you ever hear stories about, like, man, Jordan loved his kids? Jordan was always there, man. and jump shots with little Jordan in the gym.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Every day. Look at fucking Kobe's daughter. Man, that girl was cold. Nigger, he was in her life. Went to everything. She was dope. She was for her motherfucking way because he was involved.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Yes. Deep involved. He was deeply involved. It shows, and, man, a key was showing you and somebody upbringing and my upbringing yours and yours.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Who was kind of in your life and if you had some type of positive influence? That shit stands out, man, that's why even when you grow up, you could have had an abusive father, abusive mother, or a way that they, certain way they talk that you hate, right? That you hate.
Starting point is 00:38:41 And then when you grow up, you notice that you pick up on a couple of them traits. Yes. And you'd be like, fuck, I hate that I do this. I sound just like my mom. Fuck, I sound just like my father. You know what the fuck? And you might not even say it out loud,
Starting point is 00:38:54 but you're thinking it. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm all about your upbre. Man, I'm old school games. I like that. I look at shit, just a little bit different. I don't have had to you.
Starting point is 00:39:04 With the struggle, struggle teach. I only say, like, I'm, my kids. Some my kids got it. Some just don't want. It's a DNA too.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Yeah. Something got it. It's something to sit on their ass. That's why I tell kids, but not even kids, I tell adults, something's having a whole bunch of fucking babies. Today.
Starting point is 00:39:20 It's like a dog. It's like a dog could have a litter of puppies, right? There's always going to be the run. Somebody's going without. And I feel, I feel today, a lot of these people
Starting point is 00:39:31 don't understand, stop having babies like that. This is not that time to think that it's okay to have all these babies. Bring them up. You can't take it. Income tax, all kinds of stuff. You know, stop it. I implore you to stop.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I'm not saying don't have none. At least have one or two. God damn it, but all these babies you're doing and then you're on welfare. You're not getting the money like back in that time. When I was getting where you were getting, you were getting motherfucking money. Today you're getting peanuts. Talk that shit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Because you know shit didn't cost as much back then. And the more you... Bankroll, it looked like a real back roll, you know what I'm saying? He's a new food stamps look for you. Come on, whoa. Real cash. Different colors. Remember they had all the different colors?
Starting point is 00:40:13 Wait, wait, wait. And they had the paper coins. They had the paper coins. You go way back. All I remember was, dollars was brown. And all the reason I remember that, because that's all the ones there's been in my hands. But I'm just saying. So if they think by having all these babies and keep getting on welfare,
Starting point is 00:40:30 it's going to get, the money going to get bigger. Not today. They give you a certain standard, and that's it. Okay, so why have all these babies? Get your behind up after your first or your second child. Go get yourself a job or create your own self a job. Don't you think, I create it all the time. Don't you believe that a baby daddy, right, it makes him, like, especially one that's getting some bread.
Starting point is 00:40:51 It makes him respect it's so much like, damn, my baby mama's a boss. Like, she really do get money. She don't ask me for nothing. Fuck child support. I'm trying to overload her with bread to see what she wants to where. to where she acted like a cat, like she don't want it even when she wanted. You gotta know how I play the game, man.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I'm giving them some real game. I'm done with him. Yeah, because you got to give him some real game. You always back there with me. Bosses fuck with bosses. You know what I'm saying? Because you know bosses fuck with bosses.
Starting point is 00:41:19 You're going to make me, even if you get money, it's going to make me want to make sure I help out and get it because my baby mama do get bred. I'm not a nigga that take advantage of it. If I can help, I just want to see my baby mama helping herself. Don't just try to live off the system. That's it.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Just try to get money out of me just because you're looking for it for your net. How your shit are already done? Even if you spend my little shit later on, at least I know you didn't gave my kids tenfold. So that little money, that shit's what I mean. Because I see it already on their body without me. Yeah, but you groom that. These guys don't eat that.
Starting point is 00:41:49 They fuck a pretty face. That's all it's about. And some pussy. They're not digging about nothing. Pussy don't even got a pretty face. The pussy don't got equity in it unless it got a brain. Right, ma'am? Pussy don't got equity unless it got a brain.
Starting point is 00:42:01 And let me tell you something. I know mine's work. Nice and nothing. Come on, man. Okay, I just tell you. Come on, no, call it. Oh, then Nicole, I'll tell you that. You know, you really can't knock her when you listen to her, right?
Starting point is 00:42:15 No, okay. When she opened her mouth and she starts talking about it, you open her up for engagement. Pause, yeah. Jim, I didn't even know. Bro. That was nothing. Don't even take a life. No, but my son already know.
Starting point is 00:42:31 When you open her up for engagement, like a conversation, she really got some shit to say. Like, I'm going to be honest with you, bro. That's how I was raised. Like, listening to her and, like, just certain shit, it was a no-no, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? And to even hear women, like, you could tell the difference of a woman back in the day coming up that was pretty and had things. You look at her mindset versus the women that are pretty today and call themselves having mindset. Nick, it's two ships in the night past.
Starting point is 00:42:59 It's two ships in the night. It's two ships in the night, nigga. You don't even man. One's playing Moonlight, Sonata. One's playing sexy red, bro. Oh, Lord, please. It's two ships in the night. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:12 Yes. Once playing Moonlight, Sonata. One's playing sexy red. That's why I've been here ever since. That's my OG. I was abandoned as a child. That's my mother. Someone I could look at and say,
Starting point is 00:43:27 may not be my blood, But she took me off parole, but she walked in parole, she got me off. Did you hear that? Yeah, you clung this love and something real. It's okay to do that, especially when you ain't had it. It ain't about business with me. Is it genuine love? No, no, I love her.
Starting point is 00:43:46 No, I love her. I never had a woman to love me as a parent. So for her, what she does is sometimes I don't want to get too much because, you know, Jim, I see why you set in now. You understand? Yeah, it all makes sense. I don't care if we make $100 million or we don't never get paid again. That's what I came from.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Like, I don't get a fuck. We have shit. Like, we don't have shit tomorrow. Like, we all lost it all tomorrow. I still want to know all y'all because guess what? And we're still together. I feel like if we was already there up, there's some way we can always make this shit back. That's right.
Starting point is 00:44:23 You feel me? All it takes is just, hey, it takes our village and we're going to make this shit do what it Oh, that's up. When we say, my, my woman won't do this so more. She keep going. Larry,
Starting point is 00:44:33 let's do a book tomorrow. Ma, come on. Larry, I want to be a judge. It just don't stop. And the minute I want to relax, she'll keep going. And that's why I say that. You can't stop,
Starting point is 00:44:46 nigger, when she's all the else, bro. No, no, no. If she can keep moving, we got no fucking excuse. She runs way better than these youthful people. We ain't got no excuse. There's no excuse. None.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And that's how Jim is. Jim did we set the trends. in his 40s and it was the top 40 record. He is just getting better and greater and greater. That's what I told him. I can tell like even without him being here
Starting point is 00:45:06 like the way he exhaled you know what I'm saying? I follow him on line. I see his engagement, how he moves. It is a lot of her. Speaking to her, it is a lot of her, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:15 in his spirit. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? How he moves. You know like you can tell, man. What was it? What was the piece that he said in the courtroom? Because he came in.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Oh, you said he don't know how you got this court. He was messed up. He came in the courtroom. He said, wait a minute. Okay, something ain't right. He said, I don't know how you did this. Who gave you a courtroom? But I'm right there with you, Ma.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I got to say, you are that hustler, and that's where I get it from. I get it from you, Ma. I don't stop. He said, you just don't stop. Sometimes you can tell me, my, sit down. We try to get her to stop, but we know. So we had to come over something that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:45:54 And with this court show, she don't have to. Like when we started with the love and hip hop, we were supposed to be family-oriented. Yes. Then it got into crazy drama. And no one was, we did that. You did season one and two? I did it up to what?
Starting point is 00:46:10 Well, we kept going. Then we was the first had to spin-off. We was the first had a spin-off. Chrissy and Mr. Jones came at the season two. Yeah. So we went. You were in that as well. She was well, right.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Which I remember seeing all the little drama and all the little hype because you were definitely a star. And that one. I'm gonna just be honest. Like that was one of the ones when you stuck out to me. I was like, oh shit, tomorrow with the shit.
Starting point is 00:46:34 You know what I'm saying? I don't have time for the nonsense. She don't like the bitch assness. No. No. And they couldn't understand. Larry used to tell them, please just go ahead.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Because she's not going to, she's not going to do it again. Oh no, could you repeat yourself? Can you do that again? Bitch, this is called reality. So if you ain't get it the first time, you ain't going to catch it the second time. I'm not doing it.
Starting point is 00:46:57 it again. Okay, let's move on. Let's go to the next thing, whatever house story go, but we're not doing this. You know, this is called reality. That's why I love the court. Because the stuff that's on the media, I can actually take and I can be myself and use my old wisdom that I have.
Starting point is 00:47:13 You know, that old G. shit and be honest about, no. You feel like Judge Mathis and all them and Judy was more scripted. You get to actually beat yourself. Yes, I'm just asking like where she's at with it. That shit was scripted. She's like, I get to go be myself.
Starting point is 00:47:28 And people don't know what the fuck's coming. That shit's scripted over there. I might trip out the day. I might be hella cool. Y'all don't know how to fuck I'm coming. Because a girl from both. Well, that's how we were, we rode it for the streets. I'm guessing.
Starting point is 00:47:40 We wrote it for the streets and street justice. And just like the lady for all my fans, she didn't expect for. The only fan lady. Only fans, whatever she is. But if she was doing something wrong. But anyway, she didn't expect for me to come out with the verdict that came out with. Because you're both wrong. You're both guilty.
Starting point is 00:47:59 That's not what marriage is about. And you're both guilty. We've been speaking a lot about marriage. We've been speaking a lot about marriage. And I want to talk about the marriage boot camp. Baby. Come on. I definitely, because you know what,
Starting point is 00:48:13 I felt like if there was nothing in the conversation, me and you could probably touch on, I felt like we could definitely touch on relationships and where they may take place today. Because, you know, you come from relationships. relationships? They're not good. I honestly say, and God forgive me for saying that, this is my opinion.
Starting point is 00:48:33 They could take it for whatever if it's worth out of service. They're full of shit. Like I told them, I said, I don't know where you get your degree from. I know my degree is called common sense and you all ain't got none. Your degree is what, my? Common sense. Yeah. You know, and a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:48:48 They don't got it. They don't got it. I see one we went to Harvard. You want to tell me, I'm the problem. I'm just, no, bitch. You don't live with me. You ain't been with me in this relationship
Starting point is 00:48:59 from the time he got in his relationship. Okay? She been talking shit for years. No, you can tell even when young you're talking shit just like, bro, she never changed. I love this shit. That's what I love.
Starting point is 00:49:11 When you can feel in the person's personality, they never change. She's been talking like this for years. They didn't like me. They didn't like me. They didn't like me. They didn't like you. Why do you?
Starting point is 00:49:22 Why is that? Why do you feel like they ain't like you? Because they didn't. a lot of shit went on crazy up in there with me. I'm not that one. I'm just not that person that you think that you're going to tell me what to do, how to do,
Starting point is 00:49:34 or you're going to tell me how I am or what I should do. They even had the judge up in there. I forgot who the judge is. I read her ass too. What the judge name was? That was for boot camp. She was a pretty judge with short hair.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Alicia gave her that. I know she ain't a hate her. No, I mean she's like, she's a pretty girl. You know how the lady, the judge, But anyway, everything was just too much scripted for me. And then when I see you trying to put blame on me because I'm the cause of their relationship, no, no, no, no, no, bitch, no, no, you got twisted.
Starting point is 00:50:08 You didn't, you wasn't there with us to see how everything went down to want to pinpoint me. So that's where you got wrong at. Because like I had to explain to a lot of people, me and Chrissy started out as good friends, as beautiful as a mother and daughter. type. It was a situation that happened in ways her real mother passed. And from that time, I don't know if she was upset because Jim still had his mother or what, but when she said,
Starting point is 00:50:36 you know, why she said to my son, your mother's trying to be my mother. And, you know, and, you know, in other words, she wasn't standing for that. Hey, I know my, I know my exit. And that day when she said that, I said, guess what? You're right. You're not my child. You didn't come from my So I'm going to step my way on out of here. And when you finally come back to your senses, then it'll be all right. But then what happened at the same time, that's when loving hip hop came in between.
Starting point is 00:51:05 So now remember, we so much not in good terms because, you know, her mother passed. And I was honestly just trying to console her. Maybe I was maybe overdoing it too much or what. But, you know, I know it's a hurting feeling because my mother passed. So I just was trying to, you know, step up the game a little bit. So sometimes you could be a little bit,
Starting point is 00:51:24 too much for a person at the time. That's not used to that type of love. Your love is strong. Yes. I get what you're saying. You're like, my love is strong. So when I love, I love hard. Yeah, you're not trying to come home.
Starting point is 00:51:36 She's not used to that. And I'm not trying to take nothing toward, like, there's no shot at Chrissy or nothing like that. But maybe she never received that amount of love. At that time, she maybe never received that amount of love. So it was overwhelming. Yeah. Because mom loved was a little aggressive at first.
Starting point is 00:51:52 It took me. That's how I should come. You can't do nothing wrong? No, I'm just sitting in it out now. That's how I should. You know, she'll put you in timeout, like you're in the nation of Islam for a year. That's why you got me in timeout for a year.
Starting point is 00:52:06 You helped build a hell of a man, and that's why he had where he had, shining, having things to do it with his folks. You can't tell you, don't get on my mom's timeout. I don't get me in timeout. I was in prison on my timeout. Yeah. That's how you're going to put me in prison?
Starting point is 00:52:19 But Mama Jones, you got prime examples. Not in the world. Because you left me, and that's, didn't appreciate. That's why I got on time. You got time out. You left me out here with these crazy ass people that didn't know what to do with me and taking advantage and all that kind of bullshit. Okay. And I didn't even know how to deal with that. Okay. And my side man, my rata die, because my son, the other son, you know, he's trying to get and do his thing. I can't stop
Starting point is 00:52:45 because he's making that money. So he's got to make sure that his family is still surviving. But when Larry was out here with me, I didn't have to, my son gets mad because I was. I won't ask him for money like that. And I won't. I'm that person. Loings God give me two. That's dope that you cleared. That's dope.
Starting point is 00:53:00 You're like, hey, I don't even ask my son for money. Like, because I'm sure a lot of people probably want to know that like that. You know, this being Jim Jones mom. I'm sure he gets money. If I'm in a jam and I really need, that's when. But for me to say like every week or how the story goes, that's not going. Because Jim money is his money. Chrissy money is in between and my money's funny.
Starting point is 00:53:20 So I'd rather go get out there and don't have my money funny like that and that's where he come in that was my broke dog so when he went to jail oh man so why you just not telling me this today because you know I told me that it's been 10 years yeah but you know
Starting point is 00:53:37 what I'm gonna do I'm gonna tell you that to make you feel even more bad because when you came out you was like well I don't understand how it was on timeout but I did tell you a little bit I said because they left me but you got to understand why because I'm used to people leaving me my mom left me my father left me I had to grow up
Starting point is 00:53:53 to trust in you. Yeah. Because I never trust no, I didn't trust my mother. I trusted the streets, the mosque. I didn't trust nobody. So when I was a kid,
Starting point is 00:54:04 I didn't have that love. Nobody told me I love you. So my shit was violence, get money, and that was it. So you came in my life. It was hard to,
Starting point is 00:54:16 when you say, I love you, I said, okay, I understand it, but I didn't, I wasn't raised up with no love. Yeah, You know, so I had to learn.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Now I know. You know, when I learned, when you walked in parole and said, get this motherfucker off. I said, she must love me. Ain't nobody ever did no shit like that. We walked out that day. On parole, and she got me off. And that day, and guess what? I was on parole for about almost 20 years.
Starting point is 00:54:42 You understand? Oh, my God, I love you. I love you. I love him. So then you get him off because I need him by my side. I got to travel and go different places. And I can't get him to do it. what he got to do because you got him on a lockdown.
Starting point is 00:54:56 This is my manager. She said, well, wait a minute. Just hold on, wait a minute. And then she went back there and she went and got the parole officer. I told him the same thing. And they did their thing. And then voila, when I said, you're so real. I appreciate I love that.
Starting point is 00:55:11 What you're saying, yeah. You tell him he has to have a job. This is a job that he has now. And then now you're knocking him from letting him further himself to get me out to do what I got to do. And for him to get money to do. I guess at this point I gotta ask like how y'all relationship came about you know what I'm saying and where that started because I'm curious to like no my cousin call him how she know you so well and she took such this big liking to you you know what I'm saying to want to come in hell niggie to come to your motherfucking hearing niggins say yeah man shit get him out like he can come to my house whatever yep you need address yeah got it yeah I'll make sure he get there I got a car yep I make sure he get there I got a car yep I make sure you sure you do everything you need to do get him out today.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Her cousin Carl, he had called me up and he was like, you know, my cousin, we just started. I think it was like first episode of VH1 or whatever. So I went over me and him, we said, okay, we're going to co-work together. Mama is so blunt and if she see you trying to steal or she see that you just using her as a play to help someone else, what she was kind of doing, she was like, I don't want to deal with you. that there was a situation we was in D.C. And Jim just straight stepped up to him. It was like, nigga, I-a-a-a.
Starting point is 00:56:30 And he just took off. And he was like, yo, we, yes, do the next thing. I was like, I'm staying with her. She never did nothing to me. She, I said, I did a little music shit. But I love border street shit. I never cared about that industry. Because it was all fake to me.
Starting point is 00:56:47 If I could get with someone with honor and authentic, that's what she brought. You know, music and television is the next level. So I'm like, let me see it through. And she always was worried about me as a person. It was really not about no money. Is it because we don't make money? It was like, yo, did you eat?
Starting point is 00:57:08 Did you good? How's the kids doing? That's when it becomes more authentic. And then I was there and been there since day one to now. And then for me was, she reminded me and my grandmother. My grandmother was thorough. My grandmother was honorable. So you had somebody at one point in time.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Yeah, you had somebody at one point in time. That was thorough. That was thorough. And then I seen it again. You've seen it again. I see mama two piece of mine. I said, oh, shit. My grandma used to do that.
Starting point is 00:57:41 I mean, a real two, bang, bang, and hit him with an upper cut. I said, how did you do that? How did you know, Carl? How'd you know Carl? That's her cousin. That's your cousin. That's my cousin. Which is to you?
Starting point is 00:57:51 That was my partner. His partner. So, me, I haven't had a little fallout because I wanted to be with her. And like I said, for me, it wasn't the money. It was just family. My old thing was, I'm going to have a family. I wasn't wanting to care. So the women come and go, right?
Starting point is 00:58:08 But for me to look at a woman and say, I respect you, that takes a lot for me. Because I see that with my grandmother at 9. She's the most honorable. She ain't taking nothing. And she is the epitome of that. When she walked, when she takes a lot, when she takes a lot of her. So I seen her go to the head of Viacom and tell him some shit that could get you blackboard.
Starting point is 00:58:30 The company, the actual program company. They've been around for years. That could get you blackboard. And he loved her because she was honest. How the fuck you know them? I mean, it even interrupt you. How you even get up with Viacom? Like, that's a major company.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Like, if people aren't hip to that, like, that shit ran Roseanne. That shit ran shows. Yeah. Like if I'm on the right top, if we're talking about the same vodka, these are people that have ran things that people were watching on television. Before like, fuck the internet. They were a piece of what stamped, you know, your household television. They actually came to my house.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Let me tell you, because I tell them, I said, I'm not doing this shit. I said, because you're not real enough of me. You want me to do this and say this and say that. I said, fuck you. It was a really a big thing. But he respected you because she was, a lot of people that do that, they won't be in the business.
Starting point is 00:59:30 She's been in television since 2011 until now. Hey, listen. But they respected her. I love you and I love your combo. I wanted like she was, because I hear what you're trying to say. I think she's about to tell the story
Starting point is 00:59:43 about how this shit really went down. Yeah. And I really want to hear your story. And Larry will tell you, they honestly came to my house. and the big bosses because I told them I'm not going to do it
Starting point is 00:59:55 this and that but I buy that like that anyway so they were telling my son listen we can't do the show because we need your mother
Starting point is 01:00:04 you got to go get your mother to him and I already told my son I said I'm not doing that I said you're not going to be scripted I shit barely shit I got to keep up with everybody's birthday
Starting point is 01:00:13 so how the fuck I'm going to remember a fucking paragraph you know so he said okay mom you don't address it No, he was down. He didn't even want to do TV anyway. So he told him, and they said, no, you got to get your mother. Then the done.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Next thing you know, he knocked out the cameraman and told him, I want to go to hell. You know, so what happened? She went back to the same people of them that I cursed out and stuff back. And they came to my house. And then they came with the head person, two of the head person of Ryan Khan. So I see all these white people. faces at my door so I ran and got my mace I got my bat I said what the fuck you want
Starting point is 01:00:53 who the fuck you want I said because ain't nobody here got no warming no nothing what do you want so they said wait wait wait wait mama Jones Mama Jones this this is this is me whatever the fuck his name was at that time I started go I said so what do you want who those motherfuckers with you because they look like
Starting point is 01:01:09 cops like um the feds they suits and shit like that and what the fuck so but my son had told them because they was telling my son could you please see if you could get your mother. He said, I'm messing with that lady. He says, you do it yourself.
Starting point is 01:01:24 You got a better chance. He says, I'd rather y'all get it than I get it. He says, I'm not doing it. He said, you know, go with yourself because he tried to talk to me. I said, listen, don't fucking do it. Don't do it to yourself. He said, no, okay, mommy. You know, I'll leave it alone.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Showing him when they came. So I let them in and they said, you can put the bat maze down. I said, I'm not putting nothing down because I don't know what's going on. What is it you want? They said, can we please talk to you? be talking about the show. Can you please just come back and do this? We're going to let you do and say whatever you want to say.
Starting point is 01:01:55 We're not going to ask you to say nothing no more or anything like that. You just do you. I said, word? He said, yes. Then put it in writing and I'll do me. And I says, and I don't want to be locked in. I don't want to be locked in as weird as if I want to go someplace at a different show and you'll want to tell me I can't because you owe me.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Nobody owns me. I'm not a monkey in a fucking cage. So I'd rather be free. So sure enough, after that, that was sad. Then another time I had to go up there with Larry's cousin Reeve. And they said, Lord just... No, I mean, they interrupt you at all. But you see, that's why I told you, Church, like, real nigga to real nigga.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Let her talk. Church, she got this shit. She knows what she say. She knows what she wants to say. You feel what I'm saying? That's why I want to hear from her because I know the viewer going to want to hear her voice say this shit. you know what I'm saying? Like we,
Starting point is 01:02:47 we could say all what the shit we want to say for, but they ain't gonna get a fuck about that. Nah, I ain't saying, folk, we are on the journey as one. This was built as a family,
Starting point is 01:02:57 Jim, Chrissy, mama. Right, and we was the day once. I was just saying that with the brother at the head and a lot of people to send the street,
Starting point is 01:03:07 we've been around. I think it was somebody, I don't know if it was Jim, I don't know if it was Jim Jones that said it, but one of the dipset members and how they move. They say,
Starting point is 01:03:15 look, man, everybody had their turn. You know what I'm saying? Like, nigga, we're pushing Cameron right now. Nigga, we pushing Cameron. Niggin, we pushing this person. We're pushing Jim, nigga, we pushing Jim. Everybody got their turn. Nobody's intertwined on the combo.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Everybody got their turn. And that came from they click when I heard that. You know what I'm saying? I was like, that's the really shit ever. Not thinking it was Jim. Jim said like, nigga, hell yeah. If I got to be the enforcer, I'm going to be the enforcer. Because I got to be the top, nigga.
Starting point is 01:03:44 I'm going to be the top. Everybody got their roles. You know what I'm saying? How they move. That's why I always respected they click. And how they move. And I ain't an East Coast nigga, bro. And I get into a lot of East Coast niggins.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I have all my life. I'm a West Coast nigga at home. I'm an African, bro. I'm just saying just that feud. So like when I heard their whole crew even say that, like how they move, I'm like that's structure. That's how you move in a village. Everybody got their spotlight.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Because guess what? It sounds dope. from when you know you're not just putting your name out there. You got 80 niggas behind you saying the same shit. Now everybody can't. That's how you get on. And that came mainly from even with me. That's from May clique.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Your son, Click. Like, that was the first time I heard it. And I swear to God, I want to say, if I'm not mistaken, it was Jim that said it. Yeah, because I had to make him get out the box. Because, you know, when I saw him being with Cameron and Mace and all them, and they messed up my house, everybody's getting to get their ass fucked up in my house.
Starting point is 01:04:47 You know, I'm hiding him out because he's supposed to be in college, but he wanted to be a rapper and Mace over there. And I'm like, listen, okay, from one mother to another mother, I don't want no problems from your mother. I said, you know, if you want to be this rap because you're influential. That's why. They feel your or go back over in their house, like who you've been around. Straight up.
Starting point is 01:05:11 That's what it is. Who you've been around? Like, oh, well, I was. My son said, mom. His mom said, his mother don't know that he's out of college because we're here trying to get it together. You know, I said, because I don't want the problem with these people. I said, but I'm going to tell you like this. I got your back.
Starting point is 01:05:28 You got one chance. You get it together and you better be that rapper. If not, you take your ass back to college because I want no problems. But you go out there, you do what the fuck you got to do. Do not come back and say, oh, well, I'm not going to go back to college because you're going to have to. But I'm here to support you, and that's how I supported them. You know, whatever they need me to do. To go back and that far, when you hear Children of the Corn, what does that mean to you?
Starting point is 01:05:52 Huh? Children of the Corn, I believe it is. Oh, my God. Children of the Corn. That's how you had to say, huh? I wanted to run, like, all the way back, brook, you know, and just, like, what that means. Because I hear that's where it all started. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:06 You know, a lot of it started anyway. Yes, and it's scary because when I go back thinking about how, they started and I actually saw them in my house, you know, doing their little rap thing, this and that and playing around when I came. He was a grown-ass woman at this time. So they're kids to you. So to see them, it's cute to you.
Starting point is 01:06:27 You're like, oh, it's cute. They're doing anything but being just a street playing. He had to really, and my son at that time was working in the law firm. So he got all the knowledge of how and what to do because he would go back to the law firm and find out how Cameron had to do that. They helped him. They did what they had to do. So he's very intelligent, very smart.
Starting point is 01:06:47 That's one thing I got to say by my baby, and I thank God while I was carrying him, I was finishing up my lessons. Because, you know, whatever you do when you're carrying a baby, it feeds the kid. So in my mind, I'm doing my school lessons. It's my math. And I was great in math and this and that.
Starting point is 01:07:01 That niggas is a wisdom, it's math. And all the knowledge and stuff. With each one of my kids, I basically went to school with each one of them. And I got that from him first. When I see how my kids come out so smart, I said, oh. You feel like that passes on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:17 As you, whatever you do with a kid, however you act with that kid that you carry, that kid gets it. Okay. So, but mostly all of them, they got it. I can thank God, you know, for blessing me for good kids. None of them being in jail or lockdown or drug addicts or addicts. I'm blessed. I don't even want to cry, but I'm blessed because I've been out there.
Starting point is 01:07:40 I've done things in the world, the whole nine yards. But for me to actually see my kids who grow up like this, you know, it's a blessing. You know, God is great, God is good. That's why you as a real mom and be like, I don't ask my kids for nothing. You're like, it's a blessing. I'm getting money and getting like a feeling
Starting point is 01:07:59 just seeing them on. Yeah. That's everything to you. Yeah. I love it. I love them. People are my gosh. Because my mother's going to be struggling and laying at the house on the couch with nothing.
Starting point is 01:08:08 No. And I'm not me. I got to get up, I got to go. I'm a little piece of leather well put together. I do what I got to do. I get up and I say Larry. Poor Larry. Larry, be like, oh, Lord Ma.
Starting point is 01:08:20 I said, Larry, could we please get some gummy? Larry, Larry, you know, I want to get some weeds. I like to dip and dab in all type of stuff. You know, I want to be a judge. I want to talk show. But Larry be there and he, I don't ask me how you do it. You know, whatever he need me to help to do, just for me to, because I can open the door a little bit.
Starting point is 01:08:44 He said, Ma, but we're going to get this. All right, we're going to do the courthouse. We're going to have to go to Atlanta and we'll have to get a prop. I said, but I don't want no prop. I want it real. Because if it's real, I can get into it. I can feel me being a judge. On a prop, I don't think I can do that.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I feel like this phony. So I went to the mayor. My son, he just, he's just, he's four. He says, Ma, I said, Johnman. He said, come on back home because I got the mayor. Mayor, he gave me to eat dinner. He said, what? He said, he said, who do you guys?
Starting point is 01:09:13 I got to say, I got Mary Adams. Come. He, you know, he came right back to the house. He said, you know, I'm done with you, mommy. You just do what you want. But I needed him because he needed that courtroom. You know, because Larry had it all structured out for how to do it. So then when we was there talking about it, I said, I just need one favor from you.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I ain't asking for no money. I ain't asking for a place to say. Right. I need a courtroom. He said, oh, that's not a problem. He says, okay, don't remember DJ this and that. They got the courtroom. I told Larry, Larry started laughing.
Starting point is 01:09:48 He said, Mom, we got it. I said, yeah, we got the courtroom in Brooklyn. He started laughing. Me and you need to put a church together. You want to go to church? We need to do a church when we bring people. Oh, you know what? Everybody comes to our church.
Starting point is 01:10:01 You know? It's not about what people believe is. It's not what they believe in. Yeah, they go. They would get... It's not about what you believe in. You know how this shit go. Look at me.
Starting point is 01:10:14 My daughter's them. The one, my niece taught her how to bake the cage. She wanted a restaurant. We went in me and I got the restaurant. We could be getting her another one because things wasn't too right with that restaurant. But like I tell them, whatever it is you want
Starting point is 01:10:28 and what you want to be, just manifested and go for it. Hey, Larry, question for you. How does you feel? about when they stop like religious meals and like the counties and in the jails. I gotta ask you, man, for it because you're religious.
Starting point is 01:10:44 No, this is religious. So like, I gotta ask, they stopped all that shit because they used to believe like, they'd be like, man, no, look, because they could eat a certain way. They used to really give it up to people that was in, like, having religion, like Muslims, certain ways that they moved. I've been deaning since I was 11. I've been Muslims before jail.
Starting point is 01:11:02 So you call out of cats coming in, they get sanctified. So you wasn't eating halalaya? in the street. Now you eat halal in the yard. You got to eat halal in the street. Yeah. Yeah. To earn what we eat on the yard.
Starting point is 01:11:15 So you have to do that. I had to ask. Like I was the one that had the green. You had the halal car. I don't remember. It was a green when I was a C-73. So I had the halal car. But, you know, you just jumped in the line to get the kosher.
Starting point is 01:11:29 I'm in jail, nigg. And I didn't understand. I'm like, why they're getting some different trades? Yeah, so kosher and halal. And then somebody explained it because I'm getting some bullshit, So I had to ask the nigger that I know. You seem like you been in the culture for a while. So I'm like shit, church.
Starting point is 01:11:43 What the fuck was y'all getting some shit? That was probably, it was a lot better, my thing. It was a culture meal. It was a kosher meal, like you said. Ramadan, you eat, you're Muslim, you're getting that Ramadan line. This thing is got to go to church when they wanted to. Yeah, you get all that. They got like leave all that shit.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Yeah, like they get a whole different. What you prefer? Be on some game shit or get one who created you. In jail, a niggas gonna want to get him who created them. Exactly. And the shit that comes with it. But you get more than that. You feel? He'd be playing. Nigger get outside.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Yeah, like a nigga get outside. He's selling a couple of bean pies. He tore the tieway, nigga, and he's back in the mix. You see what he gets out. See, that's two sides to that. Your big homies, a nigga that can get smoke. My big homie is a law. You can't kill him.
Starting point is 01:12:32 It's levels of this shit. Wow. So I deal with the sauce. I don't deal with the middleman. So I never was into that. I never had no big guy. If you pray, I'll listen to you. That's the only way you can get my attention. You ain't getting on praying to God. I don't pray to God.
Starting point is 01:12:48 You know, I know it's the same. And I don't knock nobody. But you got to do something. You can't tell me, you God. As I was in, I was on the aisle and the guy said he was God. I said, so get up out of here right now. Get me and you out of here. Since you got, get me and you.
Starting point is 01:13:06 out he said shake i can't do that so shut up you you god like but you're not god fan you know it's levels to this you know that's it but this this is a beautiful thing gotta rile you up so no no no no what i'm saying though like because i had to ask you know i was in jail and i lacked the knowledge of all i just knew was you know they study a certain religion so you know their meals or the way they prayed where yeah it was a little different so i'm like what make him different than me, I mean, I know my hair straight, but I'm black, he black. Yeah, I love it. I get my shit done like this church, so I'm like,
Starting point is 01:13:43 yeah, like, I'm black, he's black. So why the hell he's getting something that I'm not getting, like it's something that I miss? I mean, niggas, we're spread out, yeah, we had our shit. Because you don't get little wild. But y'all trades came different in the morning. Y'all trades came different at breakfast time. Niggie, it wasn't the same.
Starting point is 01:13:58 They came different. Yeah, it's different when an Aki here. He had different. I know you were mad, you was up there mad her. I made fun. They was mad. They ain't get the mail. At least I got to news today.
Starting point is 01:14:09 I just need to know that. I didn't have that, but I don't care about. I ask you, fam. You gotta get son if you're praying five times a day. And they let these niggas out to go their own shit. Like they own shit. He said, they let these niggas out. They're getting free time.
Starting point is 01:14:23 That's how I looked at it. I'm like shit. You ever came to Juma? You ever came to Juma? No. Never kind of like a mask. Come down. You know, but I mean, I do understand.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Listen, you know why I never go is because I always feel like I've always respected religion. And if I'm not going to take it, see, like, even walking in there, why disrespect something that's so sacred? But I'm not. I was never doing that. No I'm saying. Like, even just playing.
Starting point is 01:14:47 I feel like a lot of people come playing instead of just really being like, hey, my nigga, I respect it enough not to play with it. It's like a bitch to say, like, you know, they say it many times. Shit, baby, come fuck. I'm not about to play with you, nigga. Right, right, right. Good. That's how he's supposed to go.
Starting point is 01:15:02 That's how we're supposed to go. Yeah, I'm supposed to play with you. Yeah, good. A law is going to take you in. But he take you in as you is. But even if you're not perfect, he take you in as you is. That's right.
Starting point is 01:15:16 You ain't got to be perfect with us. Of course. But you know what? It's a very serious religion. Yes. And y'all got your own army. So if somebody really disrespecting or really taking it to a whole other level, it's about to go down.
Starting point is 01:15:29 It really is consequences. No, there's punishment. You know what I'm saying? Playing in them type of religions, like you said, Hey, homie, this shit's a higher belief. You dig what I'm saying? So I don't really play with something like I don't think. And I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:43 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It sounds cool when you say it like, no, man, he accepts. No, a nigga fuck up in this shit. Niggas really not playing with you. But some of the best Muslims, Moses killed him in and God took him in. Remember the movie South Central?
Starting point is 01:16:00 Yeah, but some of the biggest murderers here. And nobody was playing with them in the jail. because it's a higher power. He's held on me. That's a man. I like even bring that up. Like it shows you even like where Muslims have seen movies where they have took and taken place in having power. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:16:17 Like no matter what it was. But I'm going to leave on this. The worst of you will be the best of you. If you was the worst in the world and in Islam you're going to be the best. Moses was a murderer. It was many, many treacherous guys had turned over. Khalid bin Waeli killed hundreds of Muslims and he came to the Prophet Muhammad with his sword
Starting point is 01:16:40 and he watched Prophet Muhammad and seen his character how he handled itself and he said I want that and the Prophet didn't say to him you can't be Muslim because you killed a hundred of us He said come on come on yeah So some of our biggest ops You see in Chicago right now
Starting point is 01:16:57 Shout out to my brother by here When it's a problem And they take it as a problem or a threat or somebody who's not respecting the culture into what it is. You have to, like you say, if you're going to love us, really love us. You ain't even say it, but I just know that's how I'm going to love us. That's the only reason you killed a hundred of us. If you're going to love us, really love us.
Starting point is 01:17:19 And if you don't, it's going to be a real problem. Come down to the mind next Friday, brother. But that's what I love about Larry. He's Muslim. I'm here on the Christian side. But listen to this. But listen to this. The way our religion is we still collide together.
Starting point is 01:17:42 I respect him. He said, Allah and I do. I lie back to him. If I have to, I go and I pray with him. And also to my religion, I believe in my religion. But I'm like you. I'm not going to fuck with something that I know for a fact I'm not going to really get into.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Because I believe in whatever I do, I have to actually get my all in all. I went to different many churches. I even went to your church. I went to a Jew church. I went to a Catholic church. I went just to see the difference. Not to change my religion because I love my God.
Starting point is 01:18:13 God, I love you. Everybody loved their God in different ways. I have a story ago. But I went just to see how it is. But with the Muslim, their Bible is similar to a Christian Bible. And it just amazed me. Maybe something might be just a little twisted, but it's still the same thing.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Maybe the word is different, but it's the same word. So, you know, it is what it is, but I know for a fact. Speaking of books and maybe not religious books, but you actually wrote a book. Can we talk about that a little bit? Which one?
Starting point is 01:18:48 All of them. And all of them. Your favorite one? Well, my favorite one is the cheating one. Why men and women cheat, how many women cheat. It's a two-book and one. So you had to cheat
Starting point is 01:19:01 to be able to explain No. She's, I never seen, because you say you never cheated. No, no. How I get out of it is because before I get caught, I'm letting you know, hey. I like that. And that told me everything. And I wouldn't even out there.
Starting point is 01:19:16 I said, hold on. Before I get caught. For how you get caught up in that. Women pride themselves on that. No, women, women, to feel that they got it down, like this, what in the dark comes in the light. And cheating always comes to the light. I don't give a shit how long it may take, but it will come out.
Starting point is 01:19:32 So my thing about is that I know I don't want to be with you no more. You know, I know it might be a consequence because you might want to kill me. But I'd rather be able and tell you, listen, I don't want to be with you no more. I love you because you gave me a beautiful child or house or whatever it is. But I got to move on because I have an interest in somebody else. I don't want to lie. I don't want to say, oh, because I don't want to be with you no more. Next thing you know, you see me with this nigga walking on the street from my hands.
Starting point is 01:20:01 But it almost cost my life at least twice when I did that too, both for my husband. She wanted the realest mama's like in a rap game, like in a beauty game like today, bro. You know, you hear a lot of people's moms, come on. You know, I've seen a few interviews where, you know, a lot of people's mothers come on, man.
Starting point is 01:20:19 She wanted the realest, man. The old school, like, really come from the shit. You know, and like I said, like her offspring and, like, who she's raised up, like it shows. It shows a lot. We really appreciate you just even coming in the end of day. I appreciate you allowing me to come on here today. Yeah, why not?
Starting point is 01:20:39 And get off some of my little shit in the day. Yeah. You see, you know, I just want Mona Scott to understand, you know, she's been blessed and she has to understand, be careful. Because what she do and, you know, how she did it and everything like, yeah, Mona Scott, you know, you're blessed. But there's a lot of fault in it, how she does. did things, how she did this show and stuff.
Starting point is 01:21:04 But you know what? As long as she, you know, speak to her God and ask God to forgive her for some of the things that she have done, she actually would actually move on and he will forgive her and she can actually carry on what she did. But there's a lot of damage. You know, people don't want to speak on it. People don't want to say, I don't give a fuck. Because it's about me being honest with people.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Like people would be asking, well, how a monos monoskot? And you, you know, your monoskap was, you know, you got along. My mother said, no, we had a little moment where I had in the corner choking and stuff. I don't play games. I don't play. I don't give a shit because it's true. Chalking Mona Scott out. But my thing about it is that I don't like when you try to start some shit between Chrissy and my son's baby daddy.
Starting point is 01:21:55 I mean, my son's baby mama. And I didn't like it. And then she tried to put me in between the middle of that. play that. I don't play that. You know, but she's done a lot of damage to people within that show. And I watch. And I'm so glad that I actually backed off and, you know, not even back to, I backed up because my son them said, nothing is nothing. They're not going to do it no more. And he already knows. I told him, I says, I don't want to go to jail because I don't play, you're throwing a little glass of me. I don't play you doing this in the house. A little piece of
Starting point is 01:22:27 a little bit of a little bit put together. It's not about you throwing a little glass in me. It's about me picking up that bottle that I already eyed and busts it in your head. So I don't need to be dear on that show. Time for me to move on. The show is no more loving. No bitch-assness for you. You don't like it. None.
Starting point is 01:22:42 Zero tolerance. Up to now. Up to now, it's still doing the same thing. It's a generation of it. It's got worse now. Now it got worse. It's no more loving hip-hop.
Starting point is 01:22:53 It's called fucking WWS smackdown. That's what it's called. You know, I don't get it. I don't get to feel it. You know, Jane is fucking Susie husband, and now she's going over to beat her ass, and then this went over here, and then you put people that you know
Starting point is 01:23:09 that shouldn't be together. You know, it's... Love and hip-hop, it's not the love and hip-hop that I first started. And it took a lot. It took a lot for me to have to actually step away. But when my son say, no, it's no good, Mommy, no. You know, because I already see you.
Starting point is 01:23:27 I already see Chrissy. He said he didn't even see yourself. somebody's going to get hurt something. So even Larry said to me, Ma, no, we're going to try to figure out something else different for you because it's not working. So this is where we at. And I finally get something that he showed me that fits me.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Yeah, besides my night night nigger. Yeah, no, these night night gummies right here. I'm going to give them small seed, man. Yeah, it's very good. Boom, night night. What? Oh, my God. And then when you wake up, when you wake up in the morning,
Starting point is 01:24:00 you get up like this. 10 traps. No, but it's really good. It's really good. It's really good. It's really good. The new strain, that's coming. Yes.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Mm-hmm. So. Mm-hmm. That's coming to. That's live right there. Yeah. What you got this, are you all right?
Starting point is 01:24:17 Your name gonna be around it. Yeah. It's all about the brands giving equity to the talent that's cultivating this. They need equity in this. It's just no fire. You got, you got.
Starting point is 01:24:30 You got, you got, one thing. These are night caps, huh? Nightcaps. This is my best nightcap. Yeah. The gummies. The gummies. The gummies.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Yes, because nighttime, I take that. I go to sleep. I wake up like Flash Gordon. And I do what I got to do. And then afterwards I'll be able to, I can't wait at nighttime to go to sleep. Because I go to sleep peacefully. No, I don't wake up with no pain, no nothing. Shit.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Smoking is fun. But the night night is beautiful. It really is good for a lot of people at like aches and pains and some people that can't really take like pill, like pain pills and stuff like that's like the best thing. You get your pain to be taking care of and you get a good night rest.
Starting point is 01:25:18 You wake up like, I can take the world on. What's going on today? I got it, I got it, you know. Night night nigger. No, these live right here. Yeah, these the night nights. Yeah, I'm going to have to definitely the, uh,
Starting point is 01:25:30 try to take one. Yeah, I'm gonna take one. Depending on how how it's feel you can take two, but try to take one. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:25:38 I'm gonna take one, no, because then I know these things, and take it just before you're gonna go to sleep. And I know these things be creeping up on you, man, it's like that TAC, sir,
Starting point is 01:25:45 if you think you're gonna take a bunch of that shit. Lay your ass to fuck out and just creep up on you. What? Take three gummies, your ass like you're in my mother Serequils.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Yes, it happened to a guy. He said, he said, my smoke tolerance is very high, and he took three of those shit, and he was, I said, oh, my God. Oh, my, I tell people, take one, I don't tell in life.
Starting point is 01:26:05 I said, we don't have to stop putting instructions on this motherfucker because we will not understand. They eating it like candy because it tastes so good. But it's not candy. That bitch shit will put you down. Yeah. I mean, I appreciate it. Is there anything that you, before we get out,
Starting point is 01:26:21 there's anything that you want the viewer, your fans to know what's coming, anything that you want to, We get about a year. We got many stuff. We have definitely Judge Mama Jones Street Justice. We're in production right now. And it's good.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Larry got to show you some of the funny little things that's so funny. I said, I'm saying small, yeah. They're funny. Oh, my God. And then some is really serious, you know what I'm saying? So I like it because we're not like just stiff, like Steve Harvey and all the rest of them and Judge Matthew and all of them. and everybody just taking shit off the court. No, give me the internet
Starting point is 01:27:03 because a lot of people on the internet don't get no justice. So they need justice, too. And we're gonna do it the streetway. What way is the best way? I got some plays for us, but I want to talk to you about them off camera. You know what I'm telling you?
Starting point is 01:27:18 And when I tell you some of these things, you're gonna be like, yeah, sharp. Just trust me. There's so many different openings. There's so many different doors to this. that we can open. And you got a smell. Let me tell you,
Starting point is 01:27:34 I get, poor Larry, I got Larry into everything. He helped me get my perfume, name, corn, Poon Kosh, pussy make money.
Starting point is 01:27:40 We got, we have Papa Triche, the men in cologne, which is the man bring the bread home. We have the, we have the body spray,
Starting point is 01:27:50 the cologne, the, the candle. We, he, and what I love about it, Not that he owned the old guard, then get it. My son, my son, it holds me support.
Starting point is 01:28:03 He says, Mommy, what are you into that? I say, listen, I just need you to put this cologne. Then he's like, oh, shit. Now he wants to take four or five of my colognes. Larry, four, five of my. What am I going to sell? You'll keep taking my shit, man. But they're really good, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:17 that my books, why men and women cheat, how many women cheat? You know, my... They're the one of your colognes right now, ma. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is the men. Get that? I'll smell it.
Starting point is 01:28:27 That's all smell it. That's going. I smell like. Tell me. Yeah, that shit fire. You're a little, look at shape. You're all like Colon's. Like, I ain't go a lot to you.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Like, I fuck with Carolina Herrera. Like, that's one of my favorite ones, the Valentino. Like, I like all them. Like, so I like real, uh, soft smells. Yeah. Not to boot, like, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:47 So this shit right here, you gotta be lying. This my ear is like, it's perfect. I'm gonna keep this one. Is that. That's yours, brother. Yeah, I'm neat. This is. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:28:56 But then smell me. Smell me. What's that? What's that? Mm. Mm. Yeah, no, I ain't gonna lie. Like, listen to me, I'll stamp this shit.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Like, I ain't gonna hold you. Like, I hate fucked up smells here. But this right here is like, it's something different right here. Like, this remind me in some shit when I was growing up, man. Like, you can smell this. I'm like, you don't smell this no more. No. No.
Starting point is 01:29:22 No, but. But you held on to it like that. It's a lot of things. But my, but the new baby. right now besides this we got all these good things but the new baby is this street justice
Starting point is 01:29:33 anybody need you need somebody I got you got to bring him to my court we can settle it makes sure it goes on the internet so I called so and so out where's Mama Jones I got to take it to street justice I don't want to take nobody off the street or anything like I went from the internet
Starting point is 01:29:51 well I appreciate you you come with Larry appreciate you We appreciate you I appreciate you. Me and you, we're going to do some more in the future. You hear me? This ain't over with. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:30:02 No, it's not. Because I'm bringing you to my court. Well, let's do it. That's right. The sharp tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. Y'all know where to find us.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Hey, Donnie, shoot us out the motherfucking gym.

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