No Jumper - Max B's Welcome Home Tour Gone Wrong! Rory Exposed as Racist?? Blueface Called Out & More!

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Adam and Wack. And we're in here. Yes, the new table has even emerged on the Adam and Wack show. Last time I was at some shit like this, I was sitting right there. In the middle? Yep. What was it, a cockfight? Parole board hearing.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Oh. They got a circular desk too? And there was one black dude, three blue-eyed ice coat. cold blue-eyed white dude and one Hispanic lady and this was what like 40 years ago no this was
Starting point is 00:00:39 1999 okay or 98 one or two 1999 I I think I kissed my first girl like a party as we were entering Y2K damn my son was already like
Starting point is 00:00:56 five years old So, yeah, we're old. We're old. It's official. We're old. We're old, whack. I had a violation, and they told me, although we have no evidence, and the courts are not picking it up, more likely you did it than didn't.
Starting point is 00:01:13 And instead of giving you a year, we're going to give you nine months flat. Well, isn't that nice? I was mad as a mother. Because you only got nine months? Bro, they ain't had nothing on me. They said, more than likely you did it than didn't. I'm going to start telling you about times I got arrested for shoplifting in high school. As long as we swamping war stories.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Run? You probably was a goober. You probably couldn't run. You're like a doop do do do do do you probably can't run. For sure, running, not my strong suit. I'm a little heavy for all that. Back then? You know, when I think about it, that was like the last time that I was sub 200 pounds was
Starting point is 00:01:58 high school got you i thought i was fat back then i was like 180 that's crazy yeah just reminiscing talking about our uh our younger days isn't that cute yeah man yeah i like this it's kind of cool though man yeah i thought i saw something pop up on my uh on my notifications and i thought i saw an hafe but i didn't know what it was it's a desk it's not an hafea no but you guys was at the desk but I didn't really I didn't really look at it to pay attention that you kind of like a redid the room
Starting point is 00:02:34 I was kind of under the impression that they were going to move some of these for a different podcast because like why do we have you know five segments to the table when we really only need two but you can move to outside but it don't
Starting point is 00:02:50 matter it's cool but what if we just had two of these pieces and they're just facing each other bro you want to be all close on some weird shit. Nobody want to be that close to you, bro. This is the same disas as we are when we had the other table. But look how impersonal it is. You're staring off in a space over there. It's like awkward for you to look right at me. Meanwhile, me, a real gangster, I'm staring right at you. No fear. Yeah, I mean, you, at the end of the day, since Charlie Kirk's demise, you and your people have been showing that you guys are the real thugs.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Top white boy. Yeah. You used to be Charlie. Now it's me. Yeah, we are civilized over here. Black America. Okay. I won't question you on that, but if you say that y'all are civilized, then we're uncivilized. We're the bad boys now. Me, Charlie Kirk, we're off the leash, bro. Shout out Charlie. I appreciate it, Charlie, in this message.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Well, you want to talk about some off-the-leash activity by a white boy. We got to talk about Rory of Rory and Mall. Do you know who that is? They used to be over there with Joe Butt, right? Yes, I wasn't 100% sure that you're going to know who it was. But basically, he's the white guy. Moll is the black guy, just to simplify things. And Rory had some interesting tweets exposed from much earlier in his life.
Starting point is 00:04:13 And this has the internet crack-a-lacking. What are the tweets about? We're going to have to pull these up. Let's pull these tweets up. What are they about? If this is about the Grammys? I do not have a mouse. What are these tweets about?
Starting point is 00:04:23 I don't even know if this is actually on the list. If it's not on the list, then we're going to have to Google it. Oh, yeah, here it is. By the way, got to figure out how to not have this hidden behind the camera. Also, this is not useful. This is a link to people talking about this. So, shout out to Remo. Rory Mall racist tweets.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Wow, he got a TMZ article out of it. Rory's on a whole different level now. Um, it's nothing wrong with Roy being racist, bro. Well, I don't know if he's going to like you using that. Yo, Roy, listen. Oh, yeah, this, let's just check this out there. This woman, Natasha flawless, said, do your black ass mother and grandmother, no, you don't like black women?
Starting point is 00:05:19 And Roy responded, nope. This is in 2013, a full 12 years ago. This is another one where Crystal said, y'all all love black women. and Rory quotes it and said, nah. And then finally in this one, someone named Yamin said, I've never saw a good-looking black woman. And Rory is seen to seemingly be endorsing this tweet. What did he say wrong?
Starting point is 00:05:47 All the way back in 2014. Well, never seen a good-looking black woman. I would say that if you've never seen a good-looking black woman, you may be a racist. That's the other two is just him saying, nope, nah. There's nothing wrong with those. Does your black ass mother know you don't like black women? And he said, nope.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Meaning, meaning, right? Meaning no. She doesn't know it because that can mean it's false. Okay. You give them like, y'all all lickish things. First approach is negative. It's like, does she, but, okay, think about it, does she know? Does R&B know that you hate black women?
Starting point is 00:06:26 If you say no, you're saying no, she does not know that that. That is a statement of that. I said, nope, as if, like, it's non-existed. No, she wouldn't know that because it don't exist. But you guys, you guys always want to take the negative approach. Oh, look, you see, he's saying it. The second one. I am not the genesis of this offense.
Starting point is 00:06:47 The second one really. The people who are offended by this are black people. No, they are the record. No. They are the weak. Why did I listen to a big-ass Twitter spaces room, then? that was full of nothing but blank people that were mad about him
Starting point is 00:07:01 saying things that were offensive to black people. You're not even leaving the door open for me to explain why I actually don't give a fuck about this because you're saying that it wasn't racist. Clearly those tweets in context are racist. No, they're not. If you're not attracted to any black women, I think it's fair to call you a racist.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Now, that being said, I think it's totally sad for you to feel that way. I'm not attracted to Asian women or all kind of women. You're gay. Gay. Asian women, I mean, bro, black women, I mean, okay, maybe, but Asian women, really? I've never dealt with another race.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Now, you're a racist. No, I'm not. Yes. No, that's my preference. That is my preference. And that's racist. That's not racist. White people aren't allowed to be racist.
Starting point is 00:07:48 You're allowed to be racist. Rory is not allowed to be racist. What are you talking about? You clearly have not been paying attention. since the civil rights movement. Let me get caught up. I'm going to get caught up. White people, black people, black people can be racist.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Human beings can be racist. I'm going to catch you up. Human beings can be racist. Black people cannot be racist. You're dumb. Black people are born pure. And if they do hate other races, it's simply because of the systematic injustices
Starting point is 00:08:21 that were done to them. No, they hate other races because of the decision they made. Now, it may be justifiable on their book. Maybe something happened. And even if that did happen, it's that individual or those individuals. It doesn't mean, look, in slavery, bro, let's be real. Did they have a slave masters?
Starting point is 00:08:40 Rory is responsible for slavery. Did they have slave masters? Yes, right? Was Rory one of them? Unclear. Who are the abolitionists? White people, I guess. And what did they do?
Starting point is 00:08:52 Black people had no power at the time to be abolitionists. did they do? They helped what? Free the slaves? No, they helped black people escape. Fed them, hit them, and guess what? When they got caught, they hung their ass from a tree too. So what are you going to say?
Starting point is 00:09:09 You're going to say, these white people are bad? No, look, bro, individuals got to be held accountable for what that individual does. Just because this person do something or this group of people does something, doesn't mean all of them are bad. There are black people from the gay community. That doesn't mean all black people are gay. We don't know that. Huh?
Starting point is 00:09:34 No. What are you talking about? Black people being gay. I mean, I'm willing to accept a lot of things. There's people. There's people. There's people. Listen, bro.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I'm a human being. All Lives Matter. I'm American. You should be America first. Huh? Nick Fuentes has a political movement called America First. No, I'm a... Do you think America should be put first over all of the other nations?
Starting point is 00:10:03 No, I think... I think, well, I'm going to stand with America, but no, because at that point in time, it's like... If there's a war between Mexico and America, who will you stand behind? Americans. Well, there you go. America first. What you mean? America first.
Starting point is 00:10:20 We want America to come in first. I mean, who are you standing? America for sure. Not in all things. I live here. It may be some situations that we don't necessarily need to come in first that another country or another group of people should benefit from that. We don't need to benefit on everything, right?
Starting point is 00:10:39 I think we just do. We need to be looking out for ourselves. We just need a fair shape, right, at whatever it is. We can't be number one at everything. and now it turns it to a dictatorship. Listen, man, what the Asian people need, they need, what the African people need, they need, the Canadians need they need.
Starting point is 00:10:59 We don't have to be first. We need to be first in the things that we need so we can do what we got to do for us. So you don't suggest that Rory apologizing anyway. I believe he has apologized. If he apologizes, he just submitted the guilt, then you're that. Don't apologize for something that you didn't mean in that way.
Starting point is 00:11:19 These people. My defense. about these people in the chat. Rory, my defense of your tweets is more of the defense that I'm only capable of having because I'm a person who's been on Twitter for nearly two decades, which is that I think a lot of people are misremembering how the retweet function was used in the early days of Twitter. RT means that, right?
Starting point is 00:11:41 It just wasn't as much. Yeah, but in the old days, you wouldn't like click retweet. You would like, the apps would like put RT and then the name of the person. So they're saying that means right. All I'm saying is that like a retweet was not considered an endorsement in the same way in the early days of Twitter. So I fully believe that he might have just been drawing attention to people saying this. Because you have to understand that Rory is not far off from being like a lush. He's a more sociable lush.
Starting point is 00:12:10 And when I say that, I say, I'm saying that to say, Rory, I believe, has spent the vast majority of his adult life. Why am I in the middle of a sentence and you're interrupting me? Rory has spent the vast majority of his life trying to appease black people. You don't even know him? Yes, I do. Not personally? Yes. No, you don't.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I did a podcast with him. You grew up with him? No. Just because you do a pod, don't mean you know him? You're weird. You have to grow up with somebody. To know a person. I'm getting tired of that shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I walk into a damn place. That's very limited in terms of how many people you can potentially know throughout your life. A dude say, what's up, hey, what's up, homie? Keep moving. Now he knows me. I don't fucking know you. That's not knowing him. Just because you get a.
Starting point is 00:12:49 pod with a person doesn't mean you know him. Now, if you kept build with him, y'all did some other things and other things down the road, some other things, then I can say you know him. Let me state the case for me knowing, Roy. I have listened to probably over 100 hours of him on podcast throughout my life, which is not that much, but it's something. I interviewed him, sat with him for a couple hours, and I've followed him on social media like Twitter for five.
Starting point is 00:13:15 So that means you watch him. You don't know him. But I would say I know a good amount about him. Bro. I don't think that he's the type of person, even 10, 11 years ago that would be out here trying to intentionally, you know, offend black women on social media. He didn't offend them. Where?
Starting point is 00:13:30 No, for sure, he did offend them. Where? Retreat. You weren't privy to these clubhouse rooms or Twitter spaces that were going on last night. Listen, there's fucking people. A lot of our black women are angry. Well, thank you. Thank you for saying that.
Starting point is 00:13:46 This is the truth. I just told you this shit the other night. I've heard people say that. Myself personally, they've been a beacon of light in my life. But they're angry for their reasons. What are the reasons? Some of them are angry. Rory is the reason.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Some of them are angry because they were taught that from their angry-ass mamas and grandmamas and aunties. Okay. Right? You are fulfilling the stereotype of the angry black woman. Hold on. Some are angry because. because they give it they all
Starting point is 00:14:17 and their significant other, whoever it may be, like just didn't get it and they felt like they wasted a lot of their time and their life and things so they're angry about that. But a lot of our black women are I think women that were born kind of like mid-80s
Starting point is 00:14:33 to now, angry as my grandmothers and all that could have had a world against them and you'll never know it. They can know their husband had a whole another family on another side of town. and you will never know it. Women today, you come out from work,
Starting point is 00:14:52 tires on flat, windows bust out. Does that happen to you? Never, but I've seen it. Me neither, yeah, me neither. I've seen it. It feels anecdotal. Like, it's never even happened to you one time? You're never going to have to deal with that
Starting point is 00:15:04 because she just tolerates you. She really don't care what you do. She's an Armenian. Yeah, but she really don't, she's not really in love with you. I guess it's not really. She just likes you. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:15:15 Likes me. Yeah, she likes you. So she spent 10 years with me and had kids with me for the purpose of just kind of tolerating me. Like an opportunity. Oh, she's out the doors. You got one foot out the door. So let's not even talk about her. Oh, I'm not worried about that.
Starting point is 00:15:31 She'd be giving me knowing glances and shit. I'm not worrying about that. If you keep talking crazy about black women, she's going to get summoned by her tribe. No, this is how I know. Listen. You got to get rid of. No, this is how I know black women are angry. Get rid of his ass.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Do you know how I know black women are angry? Why? Because I have a black woman that's not. Because of racism. Huh? Justice. That's why women are angry. Don't nobody.
Starting point is 00:15:55 This is 20-25. A lot of their heroes have been torn down. Trace songs, Chris Brown. This is 20-25. Chris Brown is on top of his game. But many women feel conflicted about their fandom of him. Huh? I mean.
Starting point is 00:16:08 The hell music got to do with what we're talking about. We're talking about how black women feel about his music. Chris Brown ain't got nothing to do with black women. being angry. He makes black women feel good. Most of the time. All the time. The only time they don't feel good is the one false victim and kisses him and she gets her ass whoop on the way home. At a meet and greet. They ain't got nothing to do with him. Listen, phone. I ain't got nothing to do with him. Rory.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Keep doing what you're doing, bro. By that, you mean tweeting racist things 10 years ago? That's not racist. Does he get along with Joe Bunny? No, not a little. Oh, Feroi, then. You're like Critt Mac. I stand with Joe. I stand with Joe. Well, we haven't actually heard Joe weigh in on this yet. I stand with Joe, no Biden. This is going to get ratcheted up to the next level once Joe sees it
Starting point is 00:16:58 because he's definitely going to throw some gas on the flames. I mean. Or not. Maybe he'll take the high road. He lives to be unexpected, you know. So you're telling me, bro. Yeah. You've never said nothing derogatory or disrespectful about black people or
Starting point is 00:17:15 amongst your friends. Keep it real, bro, and your whole life. I guess I probably said some things that might look not the best. Like what? In the sunlight. Like what? What'd you say? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:26 You don't know? You're that scared to say it, huh? I just can't remember. Social media got you in check. You're scared. I don't want to get Roryed. I didn't go. I've been through it.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I've been through this, Rory. I've done the old tweet thing. Trust me, I know. I just said Blue High Devil, Cracker, redneck, you know. There's literally nothing. No white person has ever been offended by being called a white. devil. They don't like that.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Sounds badass. But you won't say the things you said because you're scary. I can't even think anything. You're scared. I'm not an N-word. You're scared. You definitely said that.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Yeah, yeah. But not like that. I know you have. They don't know not like that. You've said the horror of you are. So what? Let's said it yesterday. That's the fact.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Said it to who? Not that you are. No, but you, listen. I don't you are. Anybody that's sitting here saying that they never said nothing disrespectful or derogatory towards another race you're a lie.
Starting point is 00:18:15 You're a liar, pro. Don't you agree that doing something in private is different than doing it in the public? No, you did it. No. Doing something in private and doing it in public are way different. You kiss a man in private, you're gay. You kiss a man in public. You're gay.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Okay. I'll give you an example. I know somebody, I'm going to change this whole example, but I know somebody who's getting divorced. Me and my wife had a conversation about it privately. What are we doing? We're just talking about how. the person is farted,
Starting point is 00:18:47 they're crazy, this is the stupidest thing I ever heard, et cetera. I wouldn't say that publicly. I'm not going to tweet it. Why you didn't tell him that?
Starting point is 00:18:55 I'm being to tell you, I will tell my people you're weird on some dumb-ass shit. This is you. Okay, assuming it was a he, I would be honest with him. I would have words with him
Starting point is 00:19:09 about how I felt about his behavior. Yeah. But for sure, I'm going to say things in private to like one of the only people that I treat as a real confidant. I could tell her anything. For sure, I'm going to say things to her that if they were put out there in the light would maybe look a little bit different.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I feel like everybody has that one person that they can be 100% real with. Cap, you just gave it up. One of Lena's home girls told her something. She talked to you about it. No, exactly. You know, you got that one person in your life that if you tell me, hey, I'm going to tell you something, but you can't tell anybody. But you already know I'm telling my girl.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Bro, you know what? This just happened. Uh-huh? Bullets Gotti. Little fake blog in New York. Okay. You met Nadi. Thought he was on the phone with Noddy Nerd Ninja that opened transgender. Oh, God. His dude was moaning and groaning, called him up. Daddy to bait and said,
Starting point is 00:20:07 keep it between us. Quite naturally, Nottie's part of the hunter's side. Dear God. So Nottie turned in the information to the queen. And I just expose him other day. Y'all go check that out, I'll find that on YouTube. But nobody's going to keep those type of secrets. Some murder, maybe a robbery where some money is buried.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Even that. You may tell, oh, somebody going to tell somebody something. Yeah, but I mean, we're talking about what, like a guy being into trans women? Oh, yeah, he was making love with Tanadi. If you're sneakily into trans women, for sure that's coming out. There it goes. Because the trans woman just has no reason to have your back. It definitely came out.
Starting point is 00:20:46 She already knows that she's going to be able to use that against you. I have no idea if that's true about this guy. Bro, I got the recording. Boy, you don't want to hear this. This is diabolical. I don't want to hear some dude moaning. That sounds super crazy. So shout out to Maul.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Well, fuck you because you don't get along with Joe. But I don't think he's racist. I mean, Mall's in the awkward position of, like, having started this whole podcast with a white man who now has some explaining. to do, but I mean, he apologized. And it's like, really at the end of the day, I mean, nothing he said. It really looks that bad in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Brother, there's nobody in front of me that I don't, that I know you said or done something. It's what it is. I'm going to deal with you how you deal with me. But so how do you think I would be treated if I went on Twitter and said, I am not attracted to black women, any of them? But probably, like, as much as you might not care, I'm sure you could agree that that's going to get me in some hot water.
Starting point is 00:21:47 No, I'm not attracted. No, you don't think so. I'm not attracted to white women in that way. My mind is, I watch too many. You do realize the rules are different for white people and black people. It's like girls and boys. I watched too many movies where white women was in there getting screwed by a white dude. Husband comes home.
Starting point is 00:22:03 White dude runs and she steps out and said, it was a Negro that did it. And they go kill all the black people in the city. I have a mental block that soon as she gets mad she's going to say it and because I'm black I ain't going to have a leg to stand on
Starting point is 00:22:20 and now I'm in prison So you stay away from white women because of that? It's a mental block Fear of future false charges Yeah I don't trust them in that manner In that manner See I feel like that in and of itself
Starting point is 00:22:35 Is the problem Huh? Shit I think one of the foundational principles of America is that you are not guilty for the sins of your father. And henceforth, white women are not guilty for the sins of past white women who have falsely accused people of rape. I got into it. Remember Captain Zariot? I do. In Hebrew, you're like, ISU P-K dudes, right? These dudes had a young white dude about
Starting point is 00:22:59 1920 told him, he must repent for the sins of his ancestors and kiss our boots. The white kid got down there and did it, pissed me off. But this will really piss me off, for real. When he went to get up, all these big black dudes, these big beers, said, no, stay down there. There's more boots. And they all start walking up on them, putting their boots out. And, bro, if I'd have been on that curb, it'd have been a problem.
Starting point is 00:23:30 If I was there, I would like to think that I would step in and whoop the white dude on behalf of the white race, who I've never really done anything on behalf of before. I'm gonna tell you. But that is the most pathetic thing I've ever heard. Bro, they got video footage of this. I told him, I said, look, bro, I don't know where y'all doing that at. But y'all better keep that shit out of California. Some of them woods in prison or see that,
Starting point is 00:23:53 and they go to holland out some of them hell's angels and some of these other cats, and they'll ride down on you. They do it to white ladies, elderly white ladies. They couldn't do that in front of me. You go to a BLM rally. There's plenty of white ladies. that are down to kiss your boots. That's their whole thing.
Starting point is 00:24:15 That's like their whole code. That's crazy. Black guy tells us to do something, we've got to do it. They ask us for money. Got to give it to them. Well, that's different. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:26 So, hey, best of wishes, too Rory in your current racism scandal. And I just know you're going to make it out of this. Roy, keep it up. Don't stop your racism. Don't stop it. Just keep it going. Yeah, why not?
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yeah, for real. A.k.a. Chottie Kurt. I'm not going to call on that. Hey, can Nathan, can you do me a favor and can you scoot the TV over this way so that I can see it, which is kind of a thing for me with the camera being right in the middle of it? Oh, my God, yes. Inch that thing. Yeah, you got to get over there.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go. Now we're talking. That's it. Now I can see everything. So, okay. Blueface is back. yesterday. I got a thank you for inviting us over to a video shoot that he had going on.
Starting point is 00:25:17 We'll get a nice piece of content out. It's actually out right now. Everybody goes check that out if you haven't seen it yet. From your perspective, how is his return to life going? He's probably about 200% of what I expected. It's working out for me. Great. My phone's ringing. Everybody I'm calling, they cooperate, they're ready to deal, contract. reality shows, boxing matches, record deals, tours, Blueface First, Los Angeles show will be in January, probably be at the Palladium.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Just kind of did that one last night. Palladium is how many people? Like 3,000, something like that. Very good. So it's definitely, you know, what's most important to me is he stays out of trouble. Yeah. Stay out of trouble, bonding time with your kids. you know, prioritize that right.
Starting point is 00:26:11 And, you know, keep a smile on your face. The build is easy. You know, with his talents, my resources, his wits, my wits, you're not going to stop that anyway. But as long as he stays out of trouble, we're going to be all right. You know, stay away from the bad people. It looks like he had a plan. He executed that when he came home.
Starting point is 00:26:33 He got some pretty good people. What do you mean by that? What's the plan? Well, his plan was to first make that a time. attempt to bring those that he could set her family together. Okay. Right? And he attempted that.
Starting point is 00:26:47 You know, his two children are with Jaden, that's a given. That's never been a question. But the other situation was in question. He made an attempt not knowing really what it was, and she made her decision. She wanted to make it about him,
Starting point is 00:27:00 and he was just simply trying to make it about the kids. You know, at the end of the day, either that is his or the kids are a fatherless child. So he made an attempt at rekindling a romantic relationship with Jaden or was it just purely... No, not Jain, with Rock. Okay. So that was a thing. That didn't work out already.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yeah, I mean, you know his... But Jaden, there was no chance of them getting back together at a romantic level, right? They're just co-panned it. Okay. That's what she said last time. I just want to make sure that was still the case. But how much time from your perspective did he actually spend with Creshawn before that fizzled out? I picked him up at 8.30.
Starting point is 00:27:37 we went to get him at 8.30, left with his mother. He came out at 8.30. Chrison Bullard away to the house, probably about 10, 30, 11. Uh-huh. She hung around about a day and a half, and she removed herself.
Starting point is 00:27:58 He didn't remove her. She removed herself. Okay. So he did what he was supposed to do, coming home as a father, as a dad and a father figure. He's a dad and, you know, to Jaden's too. We ought to call it a father figure to Christians because we don't really know.
Starting point is 00:28:17 But what he does know is, is either him or the other guy, Ronnie, rest in peace. Right. And he's gone. So Blueface is the type of dude, even if the test had come back, not his, because he knows this dude is gone. He still would have stepped in there as a dad and try to do what he could do. You know, you can't weaponize children. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:42 You know, them keeping nigger babies to spite, have kids out of spite. You know, it'll come back. It's tough to imagine Blueface really taking care of a kid that he doesn't think is his long term, though. I'm going to be honest. No, I'm not. No, it's not because. Especially when the kid exists because the girl that he was seeing went and fucked another guy. She was fucking eight, nine guys.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Like, we do that. He knew that. Yeah. On the phone, right? but imagine considering that your responsibility. I understand it's a kid. You want to do the right thing for the kid. It's not about her. Right or wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:14 It's about like now if he was alive he'd be like, yo, go do what you got to do. We made a song with OG Bobby Williams, you know, a fatherless child. If Lena has a scene baby with a scene partner, she's on her own. She got to deal with that. So if the rubber bus or there's no rubber, my friend. Oh shit. Oh. So you're,
Starting point is 00:29:36 You got to have a pull-out game going on. Is that what it is? Everybody in the industry, pretty much pulling out. Yeah. Okay. But A, we abhorting. Jason Love, Jr., I'm sorry. You're out of here.
Starting point is 00:29:47 But in addition to that, you know, say somehow he wasn't aborted. You could deal with that? No, I'm just saying. I'm not taking care of this kid. But even if she aborted, like, it would mentally, like, damn, you really was pregnant by another man. No, that does seem like a pretty f*** up scenario. Yeah, that would be pretty upset about that. Yeah, I would.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I would, as a man, it's kind of like, although you understand the profession, that still be something that's kind of like. Yeah, it'd be unnerving. Yeah. I mean, it would be especially, it's a weird state of affairs when you think about the fact that we all are on camera, no condoms. Most, I don't know, some of the girls on birth control, but like, I don't think about it.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Never does it cross my mind. What if I knock her up? but I have extreme belief in my own ability to control my load. Got you. Yeah, that's some serious shit to be talking about. So what have you got a female pregnant? She said, I'm keeping it. Well, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And I'm a lick. So how would, how would, how would, how would you expect Leonard to respond to that? I don't know. Probably more sensitively than I would regard her having the same issue. You think she would allow the children to meet? I mean, I hate to break. to her but I feel like that kid I need that kid actually really yeah I'm not trusting this random girl as soon as that kid pops out I'm taking him I'm gonna run
Starting point is 00:31:10 out of the hospital but if she got pregnant get the hell out of here I realize as we're having this conversation that my double standard is quite extreme yeah and that's why a lot of black women are angry because me and black men are the same way black men cannot deal with the things that black women deal with when it comes to us. If they did half of the shit to us that we do it, do to them?
Starting point is 00:31:40 Do you think black men cheat more than white men? No, because you guys take advantage and you guys fuck all the black women that you employ at minimum wage. I feel like black women don't really even want to fuck us as white men. Well, they figure like if they do
Starting point is 00:31:55 won't make a difference, dude at home won't be able to tell. How much you want to bet that the woke Google AI does not give me an honest answer. Oh, see, look, they just link out to a bunch of studies. I'm not reading a goddamn study, and none of the studies seem to contain the results in the title. Men who earn less than their women are more likely to cheat.
Starting point is 00:32:20 That's counterintuitive, huh? It's crazy. Yeah. Okay, so, where are we out here? Okay, so you want to address the Blueface and Munchy B conversation? Yes, it's like, it's giving hate. It's giving hate. It's giving hate because it just don't make sense.
Starting point is 00:32:44 His whole thing is he's tripping because Blueface dissed two blood neighborhoods, right? Okay, in his song. It's a comeback song, he dissed a bunch of hoods. Like a couple neighborhoods he dissed, right? So if this is your reason by having this distaste towards Blueface, I can dig it. Then why do you continue to call Brick Baby? Brick baby your homeboy. You see how I already knew.
Starting point is 00:33:18 He mentioned this before. No, let's listen. What you're about to get right on your... You know what I mean? You think that. You can sit there just because you have a social media platform and keep on mixing up all the neighborhood business and everything that us do over here. You know what I mean? And then don't have no rebuttal.
Starting point is 00:33:49 First and foremost, I caught you a stain because I'm a op. Okay. That's old or what? It's Brick-Bray being jail. But this is pride, too. So what I'm saying is, no disrespect to my cats out the jungles. I'm just painting a picture on this this dude that's antagonizing it, right?
Starting point is 00:34:10 Because I see what he doing. He hate on the fact that Blueface Home, he hated on the fact that he tied to me, and he hated on the fact that the whole two years he was gone, he couldn't get it in that lane of his, right? Well, you always say brick baby's your partner. Brick baby's your dog, so you can't hate one crimp for dissing,
Starting point is 00:34:34 The same way, the other cryptists, you can no longer use that as a reason why you got an issue with Blueface. Because if you got an issue with him, you should have an issue with Brick, who is your direct enemy as well. It's a little confusing. Yeah, okay. I'll see. You know, hey, listen, end of the day, then this goes, it ain't a Crip alive. It ain't a blood of par rule or Hoover alive that ain't dissed their opposition.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Yeah. Like you ever diss to see you damn right. That's why I was- You asked Ann Hap they ever dissed to be, he's going to tell you damn right. That's why the DW Flaming and Brick Baby thing was so interesting to people because it was this brief moment of seeing how
Starting point is 00:35:22 a neighborhood hater talks when they're not on camera. Well, Brick kind of, he folded in that situation. It was unfortunate He just didn't even engage it at all He was in the situation He got put in a situation where he He was forced to react Or he should have been
Starting point is 00:35:39 Right He made the decision he made For whatever reason And like you know But mom just saying I'm looking at this dude Like you're going And then the blue face
Starting point is 00:35:48 Ain't fin of respond to you Boy he don't even know who you are Who munchy? He don't know no He did respond to him Listen he responded to him once He made an Instagram video He's not
Starting point is 00:35:58 That was it but before Blueface went to jail he didn't know the fuck no much he was bro right well we didn't really see Blueface dissing a bunch of random neighborhoods before he went to jail too that was kind of a surprise right? Man I'm his manager
Starting point is 00:36:13 if it wasn't in the video it was some slick shit said in the song and I see him he young he coming up he banging that's what it is he getting these videos his homie standing around him They throwing up what they're throwing up.
Starting point is 00:36:31 That's just what it is, right? So, you know, dudes get out of jail. They feel some kind of way. Maybe you went through something. I don't know. Another thing, what is he talking about? Going to yard is, man. Only time it's mandatory to go to yard is the A, when it's time to get off.
Starting point is 00:36:50 B, if a meeting is called. Man, can't no man tell no man when he got to go to yard, when he can't go to yard unless he was a mark. Mm-hmm. Like, that's just weird. Especially now, these dudes got these cell phones. Uh-huh. They don't want to go to yard.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yeah. Their yard is a cell phone. Right. Right? So I don't know. It's just, and I get it because dude is like he over there on the felon platform. Right? I'm going to keep him 100.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Is he even still on there? I feel like he just mostly makes his own concept. I mean, listen, at the end of the day, he's been, exposed that he worked for the police. He's been exposed that he gave up information. You've been exposed that you didn't get in jail eight times and you still get no wars.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I'm trying to figure out which show issue with blueface. It can't be that because you say Brick Baby is your dog. And he said the same thing. But if Brick Baby put out a song dissing Inglewood families
Starting point is 00:37:52 put out a song? By name, don't you think that that would trigger Munchy having something to the same way? Inglewood family. Blueface didn't, yeah. He didn't. The same thing, Brick baby dissed, he dissed.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Yeah. It is kind of hard for me to imagine how he could be consistent there because, you know. I don't get it, but he'd be a right. Game banging shit is all picking and choosing. Let's be real. No, that's the fact. It's selective politics. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I'm the first to tell a dude that. Yeah. It's selected politic and all day long. But, okay, don't you agree that it is a very strange decision for Blueface, to have gone away from society for two years and then come back. And like, you know, people probably expect him to be more focused on just living a great life or being comfortable or hanging out with all these many, many bitches, etc. And instead it seems like his mind is on his ops.
Starting point is 00:38:43 That seems very strange to a lot of people. If his mind, we didn't did two, three songs. You just had a video yesterday. Yeah. That's a great turn-up song. One of the things that's gone viral was him dissing all these hoods in this verse that he did. And then the other thing was him having a much of hoods. whacked out on his face.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Well, what's whacked out on his face? I don't know. A bunch of baseball logos. I don't know how this shit works, but. What's whacked out on his face? Are those all positive tattoos on his face? I thought it was some anti-as-law, I don't know. He been ahead to watch that's school yard crib.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Yeah, yeah. The W. That's just. So the Walgreens thing? What is that? That's just, that's just West. That's just the West. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:39:19 So I'm taking it the wrong way. I thought. Blame, blame Mac 10 for that. I'm just going to, I'm going to not end him up about that. Mac 10 was, that was Mac 10. shit. Oh, okay. I mean, I just thought people saying it was whackouts on his face. I don't fucking know. The little, what is it? The messenger thing, that was already there. I was there for he left. I mean, in the day, Blueface is a man and he going to do what he want to do for his own reasons.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Now, unless you're a man and you attracted to that man, which I don't think he don't want you around him anyway, what I give a damn about what a man do to his face, bro. I can look at you because I have no tactics on my face and say, pass judgment on you, right? But that's what you... I got a mean, Lisa. That's what you wanted to do.
Starting point is 00:40:07 So at the end of the day, I mean, it's crazy. Munchy can't see what's on his face anyway. He's heard things. He got to get a description. There's part of me that wants to get my whole face done, even though I'm like 14 years older than blue face. So you would do that? I mean, part of me wants to do it, but part of me, another much more significant part of me,
Starting point is 00:40:30 feels like that would just be like a weird thing to do as a guy in his 40s. Listen, man, you only live once. Do it how you want to do it when you want to do it. I'm just confused. When I met the man, he had a Ben Franklin on the whole side of his face. Yeah. I mean, shit. So whatever he choose to do is what he choose to do as long as he can live with himself.
Starting point is 00:40:54 The other thing that Munchy was getting on his case about, and I forgot to ask him about this when I was interviewing him, but he's taking issue with the fact that he got put on at 18 or 19. What's your thoughts on that? Bro, I got put on my neighborhood that I was 12 years old, right? And that's because, you know, my parents probably really wasn't there the way they were supposed to. You got to understand.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Blueface, um, was an athlete. He went to college for a year. He checked himself out. He was a star football player. You know, so we got to applaud his mother or, you know, his parents, you know what I mean? In that case, for keeping him away from it for so long. At the end of the day, it's like you're looking for something.
Starting point is 00:41:45 It's a bunch of cats that start gangbanging at 16, 17, 18, 19. You know what I'm saying? For whatever reason. Like now it's the dudes that's 30. I watch some of my get put on in the haciendas. He was like 30-some years old. That's a little different. But it's like you pick it.
Starting point is 00:42:05 He's 18, 19. That's a teenager. If it's weird to do it when you're 18, but it's normal to do it when you're 15, doesn't that feel? It's weird. It feels a little like, oh, if you're an adult and you make this decision, then it's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:42:22 But if you're a child and you make this decision it's okay. It's kind of like, you know, aren't you inherently then saying that this is a decision that an adult should never make? Because guess what? Every child is a future adult. Listen, bro, end of the day, dude's opinion really don't matter. He really ain't nobody, a blind dude. And you know, he talked about a bunch of shit that don't make sense. Bro, talk about you turning in information from the streets to the police. Talk about that. I don't know, none about that. We got the record. How you feel about me and Munchy doing a porn scene together?
Starting point is 00:42:58 Show bit is we got me the nigga. We're the woman, not gay. Bro, listen, he's perfect for it. Just bring some peanut butter. No, no, no. He's perfect. That's not a wrap. That's perfect.
Starting point is 00:43:10 That's the old wife. That's it. Straight up. Shout out the Foleaf. We're doing an exclusive next week. Yeah? That's a fact. What are you doing with him?
Starting point is 00:43:20 Are you getting out soon? We're going to have blueface and foleaf. They're going to do that little. He's going to fold him. He's going to break down the blue face. What steps they took into split Monchy Beach's cheeks apart and rubbing peanut butter. They squirted it. He said, then they punched it in there.
Starting point is 00:43:37 He said they, and they were splatting everywhere. I feel like this is you making up a gay scenario that didn't take place. What you mean? Footage or I don't buy it? Footage. Yeah. We're talking about the L.A. County jail. The niggas that did it.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Two six-holes, one 40 called the dog. He said four-leaf would never come out and say it. Forty came out a couple weeks ago and said it. Yes, it happened. I sent them. I supervised it. I watched it. One of the six-olds is still living.
Starting point is 00:44:11 The other one is dead. Confessing to a booty hit is insane. Ain't a booty hit. They just violated him. Right. The homies, bloods from BNG K-5. Stamped it. And he was a nigger in that county jail.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Hmm. I wish I hadn't brought it up. But shout out to my man, Munchy. But, I mean, whatever. What? Don't smirk at me. H.K. Don't talk about a man and then smile at me.
Starting point is 00:44:39 They didn't fucking, they just put peanut butter in his butt cheeks. I don't. Nigger didn't shy for two days. It's thin toilet paper, and it's hard to get that off. What the, dear? This is deranged. We both went to Miami since we last convened. Yeah, I was out there a week.
Starting point is 00:44:58 You missed last week's episode. I was out there. I tried to do a double down, but she wasn't available. That was available. Why did you end up heading in there for? Nothing but sports. We had our second event, our second boxing event. Oh, the boxing match.
Starting point is 00:45:11 The Biggs brothers came down by the Brooklyn. Zab Judah's father came down. Antonio Torre was there. His fighter was there. He won. Charleston White pulled up. You know, he came in and supported the event. And notably, you put me on the phone with him.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Yeah. How did you convince him to do content in the future with no jumper, which is what he said, even though we don't know if that's actually a good place. What'd you say? Well, how'd that conversation? I told him, I said, bro, you should sit out with Adam. He said, I don't with him. I said, that's the reason why you should sit out with him.
Starting point is 00:45:43 I say, you know, we can't duck no conversations. You know what I'm saying? I said, he's a good dude, bro. He looked at him and he said, whack. I said, he's a good dude. dude. He said, I'm going to FaceTime him so he can hear it come out your mouth. He said, I'll never won him, but you know what, whack, you know, every time I run into you, you give me some good game. And the build is always strong. He said, I'm going to do it. And that's when he down with face-tack.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Do you think we should chase that one down and go out to Miami and do it? Or you think we should just wait until he comes around here? Either one, whatever's first. I think you should get it done. If he's out there, great to get it done. I mean, we can kind of set it up. You can do it at Aiden spot and then it'll be a good thing for you. I can call Aiden and like, yo, Adam going interviewed and then you can do a cross thing with Aiden. So how'd you end up on that stream that night was 6'9, Aden, and Ait. Well, it was actually supposed to be the night before. Okay. Because I actually flew into Orlando, had a meeting with my business partner, our investor, Ackin, our Nigerian partner. Shout out to Steve Marcono. And then I drove at
Starting point is 00:46:49 that meeting from 10 to 12. And we were supposed to start. the stream in Miami, or not Miami up at six times, I was at five. So we drove straight there, but act missed his flight, what was delayed. So we had to move it to the next day. So we had already planned it, everybody to be there. Everybody with Charleston, Charleston, we weren't in the conversation.
Starting point is 00:47:12 But while we were there, they're like, wow, Charleston in town, you know what I was telling him, pull up. And they looked at me, you got to understand, bro, anything that we're doing on camera. It ain't gangster to me. It's on camera. Okay. Right?
Starting point is 00:47:25 So you don't understand. In reference to what? Anything. Who's doing any gangster shit out there? No, what I'm saying. I think a lot of people like, they feed in and they really, I think these people don't know what real beef is. Okay. But who are you supposed to have beef with?
Starting point is 00:47:40 Charleston. But that's Ben over. You guys did a whole fucking podcast. Yeah, but he started talking crazy after that. Oh, okay. But Charles is going to play. Charles is going to get up and check the algorithm. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Whatever ringing in the algorithm, he's going at it. That's him. Uh-huh. You get what I'm saying. So you kind of need to accept that about certain people. Acts like that too. A lot of people do that. You just kind of know that like if there's something in the news acts like your personal relationship is probably, it might do something to lesson how hard he goes.
Starting point is 00:48:09 But ultimately, he clearly puts his content above relationships. So I went down there. We had that meeting. We did that stream. Nothing but sports. We had our event. which was a successful night, dude with the WC lost his belt.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Then I was also able to go down there and ink a deal for the Fresh Out of Love, Pock, Fresh Out of Love, TV show with Blueface, Dr. Unck with 607 Unk. And Dr. Unk? Yeah. It's a show with 607. Yeah, and then I inked a deal for academics
Starting point is 00:48:46 for his reality show. And these are all going to appear on one network? Nothing but content. Okay. Which will come out on Truth TV. Truth TV. That's the platform to be placed on.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I mean, I'm just saying NBC already exists. Nothing but content. It doesn't matter. We're nothing but content. So we got nothing but sports where our boxing happens and nothing but content where everything else is going to be coming out. What's Dr. Unck going to do?
Starting point is 00:49:13 It's going to be like Dr. Oz? Well, Dr. Unk will be actually introduced in Blueface's reality show when we start shooting next Monday. So you know, y'all got to stay tuned. I'm going to take 607 and cross him over into sub-melt outside of his 607 character. And what's he going to do? He's going to be a doctor.
Starting point is 00:49:32 He's going to be a therapist, psychiatrist. Okay. And I got contracts with some of the places where some people who have some mental issues, he's going to be sitting down with him, along with a few other celebrities. Is this like a comedy thing? Reality show. I mean comedy slash real slash, you know. I mean, he's not really a license to be a therapist.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I'm a therapist at times, aren't you? Not legally. Oh, okay. Well, you got to have a license to be a therapist to somebody? Yeah. I don't think so. I mean, you could use the word therapist in a different way, but generally, you know, Vice had a show called like The Therapist,
Starting point is 00:50:17 and the guy was a therapist. Yeah, that's cool. shout out the vice but our show is going to be what it's going to be so I inked those deals got those budgets um what else did we like oh my guy hi chop house chop house in windward is it winwood winwood winwood chop house crazy grand opening my business partner hi my jewish partner two stories it was great he wrote out the red carpet for us we went and did that in uh headliner mike can live. We went out there and got some things done with him. So, and then, you know, the club out there, we just cleared all our permits. So now we can start building on the club in
Starting point is 00:50:53 Hollywood, Florida. Wow. Look at you. Yeah, man. You know, listen, I tell people all the time, life is what you make it to be. You got your ups, you got your downs. So it's like, you know, you got to hustle, though. You got to get up and go get it. Why do you think Florida is the place for you to be doing all these things? Our boxing license hangs in Florida. The club is in Florida. A lot of the, you know, six-n-nine's over there. That's my business partner. Act loves to come down.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Like, I got to shoot Axe. What is six-nine your business partner on? Huh? What are you doing with him? I'm setting up to fight with him and 80. Oh, okay. So you think he's going to fight Blueface? No.
Starting point is 00:51:38 He's going to fight him. Aiden Ross. Aiden Ross is going to box. Six-nine. Really? Yeah, the budget's almost clear. And this is going to be on... It was on the stream.
Starting point is 00:51:48 It happened. They talked about it on there? On the stream, yeah, we started putting together on the stream. I made the call. How long was that stream? Uh, shit, about... It was about 75,000 people in there. The stream probably was about three hours, four hours.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Okay. Three four hours. And Ron's going to fight. Yeah, he the one who told me to put together. I thought Blueface and Six-Nine was the fight. No, Blueface and Swaggy Pete Nick Young, and I just inked that deal yesterday, they're fighting. And, you know, our hopes are to get
Starting point is 00:52:16 in front of Jake Paul. Okay. Blueface fighting 6-9 is like Jay Paul fighting Javentine Davis. It just don't make sense. Why? Why does it not make sense, though? Blueface could boxy, 6-3.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Six-nine is about 5-8. No fighting history that we really know about. Yeah, like what are we doing? That don't even make sense. But it's a big bag for 6-9 and 8. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:52:47 And shout out to my business partner. The same dude who wants to give you the bag. So you want me to fight on the same card, or I would have a separate card? Whatever you want to do. They want to give you a bag, too. I told you that. It's still on the table. It's crazy because Remo calls me a week ago.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Yeah, man, I was talking to Adam about, I think he should this, this. I said, what? I didn't tell an item for a month. I had a bag for him. He didn't tell you. No, whack. He ain't mentioned nothing to me. He told me, give her to go.
Starting point is 00:53:18 I mean, you say it, but you kind of say it, like, in passing. No, what do you mean? If you actually were to, like, email me a contract or some shit and be like, hey, bro, I can have that done by tomorrow. You have to understand the people I do business with, they're the owners. They ain't got to. I caught, Remo. It was about what, 11 at night?
Starting point is 00:53:38 Say, Remo, watch this. Called him. Hey, bro. The Adam 22 fight who we were setting up with. Wack, I'm waiting on you. You got, because, you know, he was under. I got him up there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Right? And he said, whack, I'm waiting on you. We've never denied you. So I can have that contract. If I text him right now, that contract could start getting done tomorrow by next week. You'd be inked with a deposit. Why does everybody else get to fight? I got to fight somebody who's all swollen shit.
Starting point is 00:54:07 I think you can win personally. I want to fight Aiden Ross. As a. No offense, Aiden. I love you, but. You're too big for him. That's what I'm saying. You too big for him.
Starting point is 00:54:15 It's like really my ideal kind of fight is one that I could like easily win. You're too big for you. Yeah. Like I wouldn't put you in there with blue face. Hell no. I wouldn't do that. Listen, look. Especially not the big, strong new blue face.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Dude got hands. The same blue face before? I don't know. Nephew got hands. I'm telling the athletic. Yeah. Right? And, you know, he's a thinker.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Okay. Right? I wouldn't do that. I'd be like, no, we're not doing that. Like, nigga, you who you are to me. That's my partner. We're not. You guys would have to tell me whack.
Starting point is 00:54:44 we want to do this. I would be totally against but that bro, let me put you with my trainers with blues trainers. Got some, a rushing team over there I guarantee you'll be right. Where are they train at?
Starting point is 00:55:00 Studio City. Oh shit. I don't Ventura. Yeah. On Ventura? You don't mentor over. They got a gym everything. They're going to do the meal prepping, physical, but training, everything.
Starting point is 00:55:12 The boxing. The boxing. The boxing gym also does the meal prep. They're going to establish everything for you. A to Z. Dude named David. He like, David, like 23, 24 and one or two. Him and his dad, his dad trained him. Lock me in.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I'm ready to fight. You want to do it? Yeah. We got to talk about the money for sure, but I mean. Got you. I'm going to send that text. I need something to spice my life up, you know? I really believe, brother, I'm going to be real.
Starting point is 00:55:39 I promise you. I really believe you're going to. to win. I swear to God. That's probably what I would tell somebody if I didn't believe that they were going to win also. No, I think you can win, bro. For one, you're a thinker. I feel like that's not as helpful as you're making it sound. Listen, what they're going to actually know how to fight. You can't just think about it. What they're going to do, right? They're going to sharpen up your skills. They're going to get you right. They're going to get you stronger. They're going to analyze your opponent. They're going to teach you how to beat him. You're seeing what?
Starting point is 00:56:13 I'm saying that I think one or two good ones and that frustration kicks in with your dumb ass laugh that you would do in the middle of a goddamn round and knowing how to avoid stay away,
Starting point is 00:56:27 you're tall, bro. I am tall. You got height. I don't, you know what I mean? So, you know, it's a lot. And you're just 100%
Starting point is 00:56:36 not interested. Come on. You fighting somebody. Come on. There's got to be so many good out there for you. I'm going to be real. It was a whole lot of money on the table, right?
Starting point is 00:56:47 And all my business partners, you know, people that ain't part of this world was like, that doesn't fit all of this. Like, without the things I really do, like the people that do this shit with us, you would understand it because, you know, you, you realize at one point Vince McMahon got on steroids and was wrestling.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yeah, but he was a wrestler. No. he went to. He wasn't a wrestler for like forever. And then finally he decided to wrestle because they basically didn't have any stars at that time. The league really needed somebody as famous as him to get in there and mix it up. Yeah. It worked.
Starting point is 00:57:27 You know what? I would think about it. I really want to do it. But two or three of my business partners that they're like, you can't do that right now. What are you doing? You got this. this and this going on. Like you got to sit in that seat.
Starting point is 00:57:45 That's how I know I really care about you because I would not let any of those things stop me. I would say, no, get in there. One dude told me, have you seen Don King getting the ring? I got a good opponent for you. You ready? It got to be somebody that's...
Starting point is 00:58:03 No, I got the perfect one. That hasn't crossed... Because some dudes didn't cross that line. No, no, no. This guy hasn't crossed any line. Dave Bluntz. They're blunt Oh the big do
Starting point is 00:58:13 Come on man You can't You don't think people Would tune in to see that Yeah they would But like I don't They probably would But like that's crazy
Starting point is 00:58:21 I would put him in there With flaco It's crazy But he might be just The lunatic you're looking for Flacco and Dave Flocko versus you No Flacco versus Dave Blunt
Starting point is 00:58:32 That's a real big deal Making a singular is hell of funny Flago does need To fight somebody though Like if I'm getting on this card I need Flacco on the opening for sure. Bro, he's losing weight.
Starting point is 00:58:46 I can see it when I watch his content. Yeah. Actually, you know, he's not going to fight because of the surgery. Who? Flocko versus Ack, though. I think you're going to find that Ack would tower over Flaco. And because isn't- Ax and Balls 2, though.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Isn't Act like 6-1 or something? Like 6. He's about 6 feet. Is it Flaco like 5-3? Nah. Well, I don't know. He'd be having on these fucking bulls too. boots, I don't know how tall flock of it.
Starting point is 00:59:15 But, AC, I wouldn't, I would advise ACC against that. AC is skinny now. I think about just seen him. I think ACA's on Ozzympic. That's just my guess. I think he said he changed up his diet. I would advise ACA against AC's a boss. Ack has, like previously had like one of the worst diets ever.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Like he would only eat like Applebee's and shit. In McDonald's. He had a McDonald's card. Yeah. Remember they canceled him? Remember they exposed his email and it was just like, McDonald's and like Applebee's back to back to back. No, but the real, okay, this is my logic of why I think Ag probably is on
Starting point is 00:59:50 Ozambic is because he seems like he's lost a ton of weight. I think somebody said that he lost over 100 pounds. That's a shitload. Normally people who- I can't lost no hundred pounds. You don't believe it? I just seen him. I think you're forgetting how fat he used to be, though.
Starting point is 01:00:03 He lost a lot of weight. But all I'm saying is that people who lose 100 pounds typically are working out on social media or at least like talking about working out because working out sucks so bad that like if you're doing it, you're probably talking about it or if you're massively switching up your diet also, like that's another thing that like
Starting point is 01:00:24 you're just going to talk about it. And I haven't really heard him talk about working out or dieting. So I feel like it would just make way more sense. Also like half of America is on Ozambic at this point. Yo, I've seen some shit said at Ozambic is making people go blind. destroying the liver.
Starting point is 01:00:42 that making people go blind. I mean, I'm going to assume that that's an incredibly small percentage since they're like prescribing it left and right. They're putting people on it all over place. I told people, I said, bro, in about five years, we're going to hear, if you've taken this, if I joined this class action lawsuit. But people always assume that every drug that has a powerful effect is also going to have like an extreme negative side effect.
Starting point is 01:01:07 And that's just not always true. Well, you take it insulin or something, right? I don't know exactly how it works. You're taking something that your body doesn't need. But what's better? Taking this drug that might have some side effects that people aren't necessarily aware of or wearing 200 pounds of blubber on the outside of your body that is absolutely going to cause you to die a couple decades early.
Starting point is 01:01:33 You're right. You could be right. Shout out, Blueface. We got a hit coming out. We got a crazy anthem produced by Hit Boy, O.C., Chris. Zoh Saba What's my guy Name is it
Starting point is 01:01:46 Frank Nitty Yeah Something like that It went up No it was a good session One of the girls One of the video girls She wants to come to plug talk
Starting point is 01:01:56 She wants to come to plug talk Yeah Yeah The little Asian girl Yeah And she used to be A Chinamax girlfriend Oh was it
Starting point is 01:02:03 Yeah You should hear The name of the Mac You kind of read my mind The return of the Mac But you want to know The crazy thing about her It's actually
Starting point is 01:02:10 A really weird story is that 2012, I'm at a club in Long Beach. I meet an Asian girl with tattoos. It's her. We hang out the next day. Do not, nothing like that. But she was talking about a bunch of gangster shit, like talking about so-and-so getting shot at,
Starting point is 01:02:30 and this person is shot of that person, whatever. I'm a white boy. I'm fresh out of New York at that time. I've only been there for like a year or two. So this is all extremely foreign to me. I'm like, what the fuck this girl is on some crazy gangster shit? Like, that's wild. we never hang out again.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Eight years later, China Mac walks in to do an interview, he's got her with him. And everybody, like all the fans were like, oh, Adam, Adam did enough. But then I didn't see her for like four or five years until I seen her at that video.
Starting point is 01:02:58 She yesterday. Yeah, she was cool. Six-nine, career resurgence seems to be underway. It feels like we kind of have to thank Vlad for that because I'm going to be real. He's done a lot of other content, and the Vlad content seems to have just kind of captured the people way more than most of the other content that he's doing.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Something about the rigid formula of the Vlad content seems to have been the perfect content for people who are craving some 6-9 action. Well, I think he's done a great job. I've said this time and time again. I think people were being racist because he's a Latin kid. That's pretty much what he said. Because when black people told it wasn't a problem.
Starting point is 01:03:51 So what Six Nights is done is he's come out and embraced some of his comrades and said, see, he told he's just like me. He's just like me. He's just like me. Max B just came on. Right? So at this point in time, if you're going to get mad at me, trip on me, you got to trip on them. Or if you're going to accept them, you got to accept me.
Starting point is 01:04:16 And I think people are kind of like just over it and like, you know what? Who cares? Yeah. And now who he's always been, right, is on a Vlad camera, three, four hour segment. They did like 16 million views already. Yeah. And that's just part one. He got a part two.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Then a part three with six nine interviewing him. So at this point in time, those people that missed who six nine was in those earlier years are now getting a chance to see him. And I'm going to be real. The YouTube streets is flat right now. So he did it at the right time. Yeah. What's going on?
Starting point is 01:04:56 Yeah, it's been kind of dead. Rap is dead and then the rap content space kind of dead as well. I've been watching these people views. Some of these people that do like, 15, 20, 30,000, right? And a day, I'm watching eight hours later, 2200. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:05:14 And they're struggling to talk about anything. What I've intentionally done is fall back, because a lot of them will react to stuff I do. So I'll fall back. I can get on there like you can, and we just go to blamming and talking, and it's just what it is. So you're starving the streets intentionally.
Starting point is 01:05:32 That's the fact. I mean, listen, I want to see what, Those dudes who say they this and that, let me see how you contribute to it. I can go on there right now and start a fire and getting people content for the next three, four days. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I hit up ViewStats.com the other day and checked out how a bunch of our competitors are doing. And it's kind of dark for a lot of people.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Yeah. They're feeding on each other. A lot of people who left no jumper, it's not good. Like people who were doing a million views a month and are now doing two, 300k a month. But you want to know the trick that a lot of people are employing is that the view count doesn't look that bad until you look at the split between long form views and shorts. A lot of people, the shorts are like 80% of their channel at this point. And that's like the only way that they're even able to keep impressions up. It's kind of crazy.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Which me and you both know to pay on something this. It's nonexistent. It's like 1%. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's crazy. But as far as 6-9, you think that he's staying out? He seemed like he was kind of like pessimistic,
Starting point is 01:06:43 and then his manager, Dawn, was basically saying that he didn't really think 6-9 was going to go in. You're going to do some time? Three to nine months, worst-case scenario. I mean, I hope they allow him to stay out on his ankle brace it because I got some TV shit for him to do as well. I'm working on something for him with him in 1090. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:07:08 I think that would be a great show. You know, I'm just kind of... Six, nine and 1090, consistent show? Yeah. On TV. Yeah. So you're going all in on this TV direction, huh? Um...
Starting point is 01:07:21 Ever since Dosh Network didn't really pan out. Well, what it was was a lot of stuff I had for Dosh. So, I mean, things happen for a reason. Now, now... I got a network. You know, and I'm sitting at the table with Jared Flood and Steve Arcano and people like that, my man Akin. And, you know, a lot of people don't know who Jared is.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Well, you go Google and he runs Truth TV, which controls Trump media. Right? So, you know, we're a business partner, so now it ain't a problem. It's like, that's your spot. That's your thing. We launch in this day. Go. Wow.
Starting point is 01:07:57 So you're going to combine truth social and hip-hop. There it goes. There, yeah. we're going to be the only one in that lane on that platform. That's exactly what we need. For sure. You get what I'm saying? But like I said, it's open up doors for other things.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Other things for us to do, I believe it's other things that we can do in no jumper. You know, let's switch gears, jump with some other lanes. And I'm going to be real. People can't. No jumper can get lanes that people can't get in. Like what? When it comes to the artist development side of it. You know what I'm saying, with these underground artists, right?
Starting point is 01:08:35 People don't, they come to this platform to see that. You get what I'm saying? And we got enough resources as far as our streaming teams. You know, a lot of people that you know, a lot of people I know, that we can, like, really put together the right thing and become that platform, which in turn sends us to the labels. Now the labels looking at us, like, hey, you got that guy, that guy, you're the place to go.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Can we put them through your machine? But you're not being persuaded that hip hop is dead. Because, you know, people are saying that, like, right now is probably one of the worst times of the artists because there's been so few artists popping off in recent. Well, it's in a reset. You know what I'm saying? And, like, those that ain't scared of the murky waters, they don't see their self-do it. It's in a reset.
Starting point is 01:09:24 It's been in a reset. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? So it's kind of like what it used to be. You can't be one-dimensional and win in hip-hop. If you look at blueface, what's going on with him? The women conversation, that's TV. He's in the studio, that's music.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Boxing. That's sports. Right? So you got it, you know, and then from that comes merch deals. And then it's tour. The tour people's called it. We're ready to go. Can we schedule April, May, right?
Starting point is 01:10:02 So you got it. can't just be cool in the corner depending on some lyrics. Because at this point in time, there's no more artist development. Times are bad. There's a small percentage of people who have the money to put into themselves. And then the people that do have the money to put into themselves don't know what to do. Right? So that's where guys like us and a platform like this comes in head is wide open.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Don't you think, like my guess would be that the next strain of hip hop that becomes mainstream and that pops off on a major level and really gets the attention of the masses and brings in lots of new hip-hop fans, etc., is not going to be street-oriented at all. Definitely not. It feels like the next wave is going to be like an odd future type moment. Listen, I told a dude the other day, you're whack. Listen, I just walked out 10. I'm a gangster.
Starting point is 01:11:05 I did this, I did that. I got street carried, cred. I called dogs in my hood. You know what I told him? You ain't weird enough for me to do business with you. Weird. Shout out to Black Bear. Yeah, we working on that blue face feature.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Black Bear, the white boy's singer dude? That's my guy. How the fuck you know him? That's my guy. Really? You know what I'm saying? So we're working on that. We're putting that together.
Starting point is 01:11:30 You know what I'm saying? Me and Lenna went and saw him in concert many years ago. Oh, he was there that night. Where? At the video. Really? Yeah. I don't know that I've ever met him.
Starting point is 01:11:43 R&B got a picture with him. Black Bear. I'm going to put artists so that it doesn't show me a bunch of bears. He was there yesterday. Oh, was he? Bro, listen. What's his Black Bear up to him? I didn't heard about him in a minute.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Damn, he was there? Yeah, Black Bear was there. I'm telling him he was there. It's pretty easy to, like, spot human being. Okay. I'm just very surprised you even know who he is. Dammer, are they going to make it so the Instagram pages just show fucking play music again? Oh, she got a pick with him.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Yeah, like, shout out Black Bear. So he's going to produce and he's going to do a feature with Blueface for me. Her son listens to Black Bear. Exactly, both of them. How old is her son? He'll be 18 this month and the other one's 11. Wow. 17 and 11.
Starting point is 01:12:36 His most recent photo has 300,000 likes. So I guess he's doing all right. You got a song on there with a couple billion streams. Yeah. When I went to the mass singer with the Nick Kennedy thing, then they put that damn song on, all the kids went crazy. It was a bunch of black kids there, too. Really?
Starting point is 01:12:57 Yeah, so, you know, and he's rapping. I haven't listened to his music in at least six, seven years. I'm not to see you as joint. He's rapping. Six, seven. him. Okay, Max B's out. The people are loving him. He's going around. He's getting a great reception from people. Then meanwhile, of course, we have done-da-da-done the Grinch. Wack 100 out here spreading holiday gloom letting everybody know how he feels about him. I watched a 1090 Jake video.
Starting point is 01:13:27 I watched a 1090 Jake video about it. And by the end of that video, I was like, okay, what are we even talking about. What did 1090 tell me when I called him other day on the phone, baby? Explain 1090 said, I don't have the paperwork you got. What the fuck do you got and I read it? He said, I don't have that. Oh, so that video he made was not up to date. He's waiting for me to listen, I intentionally haven't reacted to it. Okay. I did that months ago. You know, we've been ran that content. They didn't resurface the clips from our show. The thing that 1090 read on the video he was basically like when the cops came to Max B, they were asking them about the girl that gave them
Starting point is 01:14:11 the initial intelligence about the guy that was going to get robbed who ended up getting killed. And that basically Max B stated the name of the girl and where she worked. And that from 1090's perception. And where she worked, right? Okay. Is that the entirety of, no, that's not it.
Starting point is 01:14:31 So what he didn't have, he said, whack, but I didn't have that. So I read it to him. Wingate, who was Max B, also argues that the court erroneously failed to find any mitigating factors. Specifically, he argued that his conduct was a result of circumstances unlikely to recur because he would have nothing more to do with Conway, chick, right? Okay. He also argues that he, Wingate, cooperated. with law enforcement authorities
Starting point is 01:15:06 by helping them locate Conway. Hey, listen, bro, I'm not here to debate with the civilians. I'm not here to debate with those. I have nothing against Max B. I don't know Max B. I've been laying low out of respect to French Montana. Just keeping the gangers because I could have been lit the fire. You bring it up. So we're going to talk about it. When I called 1090
Starting point is 01:15:28 and read him that, he said, whack. I've never seen that. I don't have that. go here, run it, and then send it to me. I'm going to react according to. If I had that, I wouldn't have took that stance. But listen, anytime you cooperate with law enforcement, right? So you don't have a record of the actual cooperation. You just have a record of him when doing his appeal stating that he had cooperated.
Starting point is 01:15:53 Here's the thing. When you file an appeal, everything's come out. Uh-huh. Shit that you didn't see in the other previous paperwork. Okay. Right. So at that point, when he's saying, listen, I cooperated with law enforcement and helped you find a person. She went to jail. She did like five, ten years, some shit. Yeah. Pooh Sims is the guy, his brother, doing the 120, which he's the one to direct me where to go find these things. I got phone call recordings with him. So, you know, he's out. I see my man French with him, you know, so I wasn't no hurry.
Starting point is 01:16:31 the trip. My whole thing is he don't say he don't mention me. I'm wanting to mention him out of respect the French. We've already ran this content 18 months ago on the Hunter's of the Clubhouse. So it was nothing new. I've talked about this on our show.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Okay. Months back, you know. And what I don't like is they say Wax going at New York. Now, listen, man, if it's an individual is that individual. If he happened to be from New York, California, Philadelphia, that's just where he happened to be
Starting point is 01:17:01 from no one individual is the voice of a whole state. Right. It just that ain't what it is. But I think I don't really see you holding back on anybody who's accused of snitching out here so much. I don't care. Like, I didn't ran it. I mean, I have seen you play favorites, but I wouldn't say that you do that most of the time. I don't play favorites.
Starting point is 01:17:21 I'm going to tell you what it is. But there's definitely been people who have been accused of shit where you're kind of like, well, no, I don't. I don't. If somebody told me Adam's a snitch. I'm gonna be like he's not just a civilian. Right. I'm out of the question.
Starting point is 01:17:35 I don't care what you put in front of me. So a lot of these people are trying to pin these things on people that they don't come from their lifestyle. Now, that's just me. I don't see it that way. I'm dying a snitch. Yeah, so, you know, at the end of the day, with Teets on ain't nobody going to do nothing.
Starting point is 01:17:49 It's just content. You know what I'm saying? But you're not going to tell me that I can't read. I mean, it's weird to say like, oh, whack is just going at New York. It's like, everybody. Why would New York want to protect a rat if that is the case? I'm not saying that it is necessarily. I'm not the person who should be making the judgment of that.
Starting point is 01:18:10 But why would you want a whole state slash the biggest city in America, the most populated city in America, I guess, to protect somebody who broke the foremost street code at a moment in time where it feels like the streets are less important than they've ever been in hip-hop? And my thing is this, I don't even care. care about the individual, my message be to the kids and youth, because a lot of them listen to these people, lyrics, and they follow them.
Starting point is 01:18:38 They like, yo, he's this, he that. I want to be just like him. No, he's a rat. He's lying to you. Everything he's telling you to do, he didn't stand up to, go to the other way, go to the military, go to school, trade school, go do something different. They ain't even about them.
Starting point is 01:18:52 I can care less about them. You're going to listen to Maxby? I don't know nothing about him. I ain't never heard his music. He's 47 years old, times have changed. I do know he wasn't shit. He wasn't mainstreamed for he left. He was big songs, though.
Starting point is 01:19:06 He was bullshit, big how. Ballin. I know it's a Jim Jones song, but he was like the person writing all this shit, I think. Is he got credit? Is his credit? I'm not 100% sure, but, yeah. I mean, he never made it to like a super crazy mainstream level.
Starting point is 01:19:18 If he ain't got writers credits on it, I'm not going to give him credit. I can testify as a person who was in New York at that time that he was by far the hottest thing coming out of New York post, you know, 50 and Cam and shit like that. He had the streets. Cap. On fire.
Starting point is 01:19:36 I lived there. You were already in the old folks home by that point. He wasn't, no. First of all, I fuck out of here. Me and Kay Slay, that dude left in 09. If Kay Slay was here, he would testify to this as well. Oh, he wouldn't? Because you got Papoos.
Starting point is 01:19:49 You got Troy Aves. Papoose was so far before this. Are you dumb or something? Papoos got signed in the early 2000s. Right now. We're talking about like 2000. Yes, no, he did. He got signed like 2004.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Nick, I was doing motherfuckin' mixtape songs of Papoose and Stacey Adams in Miami in 07. What year did Papoose get signed? In 0708, we're doing mixtape songs. Okay, so he was lit when I first went to New York in 2004, but he didn't formally sign a deal to 2006. We're talking about later on. No, he didn't. The nigga went to jail in 09. How much later?
Starting point is 01:20:30 You're talking about Max B? Yeah. Okay, but Max B- fuck out of here. You can't deliver in their pat from that. What? Look at that nigger won every just-to-a-a-war that came out. Yeah, but that was way before this.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Pap, Papu signed his deal after his original hype had already been a few years old. I'm not like you. These are people I know. I've been in their homes. Motherf-fuck, we worked in studios. I brought them out here. They come out here to my parties.
Starting point is 01:20:55 You can't, me and slaves like this, he was signed a street sweeper. What the fuck are you, talking about. Slate A&R by Sexy Cannot Project. I know you've like hung out with these people, but I was actually a fan of these artists in real time. You're just like, oh yeah, some shit I heard about. Sexy can I didn't drop to 07. 0708. 0708. Papp was on fire back then. See, look, 2004 is when alphabetical slaughter was released by Papp. Yeah, but that's his first like real. He didn't have his deal yet. And I know, and he signed his deal a couple years later. But by that point, I'm going to be honest with you,
Starting point is 01:21:34 the hype had worn off. Are you stupid? The nigga was in a full flash war with Uncle Murder. Yeah, but... 06, 07, 08. He didn't really exactly have the streets on fire as a result of beefing with Uncle Martin. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:21:46 It's okay. You weren't around. I'm just letting you know as a person who was in New York after time. You were a goofy-ass white boy. You were all the way on the other side of the country driving trucks and fucking rage. Nicky, you better Google, Google, bridge in the gap. Google Bridge in the Gap, DJ K Slay.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Let me show you. I'm going to show you Prince when he was a hundred pounds lighter. Google that. Huh? Yeah, tap any of them motherfuckers right there. It's just like a random podcast episode from 2019? No, no.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Bridging the Gap. Kay Schley. Hit it. Who is that? That's Prince right there. That's 11. Now, nigga, we already been moving about seven years together already.
Starting point is 01:22:29 Okay. Right? You can't tell me when shit was going on, bro. I'm telling you that the time when Papoose was the biggest rapper in New York and the time where Max B was the biggest rapper in New York were very different time period. Papuus's wave came before Max B's and there's nobody in the world that would disagree with this. Bro, Papoose 6, 7, 8, 9, all them years? No. What year at Remmey Martin with the gym?
Starting point is 01:22:56 Absolutely not. Google what year at Remi Matt Buh. Acting like Papoose was still hot as a rapper in 2009 is proof that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. about. Where year to remit to jail? We just
Starting point is 01:23:07 ask the AI, what year did Remi go to the jail? But you got to understand that yet 2008. That's my point.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Right. Nick, he was, what you mean? That's when that merger was going on. Papusa's popular
Starting point is 01:23:22 time period as a rapper. But you tell him when he got a Remi Mott, that didn't add to his shit? Not really, no.
Starting point is 01:23:27 You're dumbest. That was him doing reality TV. No, that came right. The reality TV part of your life that comes after
Starting point is 01:23:33 the hot rapper party. You're dumb. Alphabetical son came out of 2004. Reality TV came after Remedy my guy out of the jail. Reality TV came after Remy My God at a jail. You stupid as fuck, niggie got with her. That's before she went to jail. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:50 You don't even make sense. Nica, move on. Cotty, you can't tell me about my brother, nigga. I helped him make decisions. You're a fan. Straight Stun magazine came out in 05, right? You feel very passionate about it. But you feel very passionate about it.
Starting point is 01:24:01 But you wasn't there. Huh? was not around. You were all the way in Pekoma driving trucks. I was in New York buying the mixtapes as they came out. Ag YG. Ags Kendrick. Ags G Malone. Ags all the niggas. So you're trying to argue that Papoose was bigger than Maxby in 2008. I'm telling you, pay, wait, wait, wait, I just want you to go on record. Say you doing the white people shit. This 2025, nigga, at 1825. You stupid-ass white boy. I'm telling you, Papoose, was lit on fire with a major buzz in the city of New York,
Starting point is 01:24:38 nigger from 6, 7, and 8. This nigga went to jail in 09. So just for the record. So Papoose was bigger than Maxby in 2008. They was both underground. No. MaxB ain't number one. Max B was gigantic in 2008.
Starting point is 01:24:53 You don't know because you were on the other side of the bunch of-year-outation. Okay. Dummy, it's a six-hour flight. You were scared to come this way. Wack was going that way. I never, I hadn't been over at that point. What are you talking about? Nick, I was all through New York.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Yeah, I mean, look, yeah, a bunch of records. Nick, I got to have it, sexy love, why you, nothing went. There's complex articles about all the biggest Maxxby songs. No. Nothing. Okay. He charted some.
Starting point is 01:25:24 We're going to go. We're going to look for his biggest. I give him his underground shit, but nigga, you ain't going to sit here like, pap wasn't moving, and his buzz wasn't crazy. No, Pap had already up by then. I said that as somebody I love Pap, but musically
Starting point is 01:25:38 Bro, you just saw William Mom went to jail in 08. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, Pat was buzzing. Nick of the day she went to jail, that nigga was in Africa. The day she went to jail, he led it in Africa.
Starting point is 01:25:49 You are deeply confused. This is a fact. You're deeply confused. You weren't there. You weren't nobody. You was a BMX Nick. I was in New York buying the mixtape as they came up. Nick, we were telling me about this.
Starting point is 01:26:00 It's like me trying to tell you about the history of L.A. You're from me. New Hampshire, white boy? And I was living in New York for eight years at this point. You couldn't even check in the dub. You was broke up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Nickin' I'm going to tell you like I tell you. Let me tell you. You niggas wasn't around in this game. You were on the other side of the country. No, dummy, I was there. I could call a top dog right now at TDE and he's going to tell you, whack-ass damn there stayed in New York. You're dumb as fuck.
Starting point is 01:26:29 As stupid as a motherfucker. You can't fuck from a-so. The only mother-fucking. The only motherfucker that got any leverage with that with me is Vlad. The rest of you niggas wasn't around and have a voice. You were sideline at home waiting for a lot. The AI says in 2008, Max B was arguably the hotter rapper with significant street buzz, ghost writing credits on major tracks,
Starting point is 01:26:49 while Papoose was primarily an underground mixtape artist struggling with major label release issues. This is what anybody who was actually a fan of this music at that time could tell you, But you have no idea because you were on the West Coast and you have no clue. What was the major label release issues? He was signed to a label that wouldn't let him put an album out. No, he was signed a street sweeper. Yes. No.
Starting point is 01:27:14 This was after that. He was signed a street street street. It ain't after that. Stupid. You're dumb as fuck. Slay out the motherfucker deal with Sony. Literally. Every person out there who is paying attention to this music during this time period
Starting point is 01:27:27 knows that you're wrong. And seeing you be so loudly wrong is proving. that you're wrong about a lot of things too. I'm telling you is this, bro. You were a fucking nobody. No, I know. I know everything about this time. You wasn't in the mix.
Starting point is 01:27:39 Yes, I was. No, you wasn't. You weren't listening to this music. You weren't on the internet talking about this music every single day. Guess who was? Puck-o-Wack 100 Shade 45. You're just guessing. I was on the radio back in.
Starting point is 01:27:52 Don't fucking. You were hanging on a radio station. Ain't no hanging. You're getting every detail of Papusa's career wrong because you have no clue what you're talking about. You said he was going to love in hip-hop and no. Wait, you stupid-ass-m-a-dick. Rimi-Modd did six, seven years.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Rumi-Modd did six, seven years before that happened. You dumb as fuck. But for you to say, Pat didn't have no presence in them streets of New York with his music back then, you're an idiot. Look at this. Papoose had previously signed a substantial deal with Jive Records in 2006. But by September 2007, he and his manager, DJ K Slay, had left the label due to creative differences in A&R. hell, meaning he did not have major label support for a commercial album in 2008. He had no charting singles or albums that year.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Max B. had nothing charting. We're talking about the streets. You sound like this might be the dumbest you ever sounded. No, you're dumb. Well, you admit that you were nobody back then but a dumbass white kid running right. You was nobody. I was a rap music fan.
Starting point is 01:28:57 You was nobody. You are retroactively. pretending to care about this area of music. Is that you can't have that conversation. You are retroactively pretending to know anything about this area of music. You read about it? I lived it. You read about it?
Starting point is 01:29:11 I lived it. You read about it? I lived it. I was paying attention to this as it was happening. You're guessing retrospectively. No, you're reading. I'm living it. No, I was reading it while I was happening.
Starting point is 01:29:24 I was listening to the music. You couldn't even check it. You have never listened to Max Beat or Papo. You couldn't check it to the W's bro. You have not. never heard Popperus's music. I lived at that motherfucker. Name five songs. Name five songs. I live that. Name five songs. Name five songs. You can't tell me who was hot and who wasn't. Name five Papu's. I never heard of Maxby. I didn't know who Max B was. And that says everything. No it don't. I just
Starting point is 01:29:47 didn't add that ain't what I was on. You're just getting the timeline wrong. Papuice's career as a musician was already largely over by 2008, whereas Max B was at, as the A I just confirmed, was at the peak of of his career in 2008. I'm telling you is, maybe they were going at the same time, but you're not going to tell me, Papoose was in the dirt 06, 07, 08.
Starting point is 01:30:10 You're not going to tell you. No, he won't. He didn't even get to put an album out because he was stuck. We just read it. He was stuck in A&R. Hell, you know what that means? I helped him get out the deal.
Starting point is 01:30:20 I helped him get out the deal, dummy. He got another check when they released him. Idiot for pay or play. You realize you're just calling me an idiot because you. you know that you look like an idiot right now. Bro, I know you wasn't around.
Starting point is 01:30:34 I didn't nobody know what a fad. I was paying attention to it in real time, and you, in fact, weren't. Hey, listen. Look, Pappoos released his first album in March of 2013. You want to know why? Because the label wouldn't let him put an album out. Listen to me.
Starting point is 01:30:50 Do you think if he was really popping that they would have let him put an album out in 2008? He had songs on the radio. I remember Hay the Blockers was up. He had songs on the radio. He did a song with Snoop Dog, which calls a riff, and shit because it was another single that's supposed to be in working. You gotta give up.
Starting point is 01:31:04 No, bro. You wasn't around. You lose. You lose. You wasn't around. Hey, you didn't matter. The AI and someone who had listening to the real shit. As it happened, are confirming that you're getting the timeline wrong. You got a great platform now. You and you don't know what the thing back then, nigga. Right. The fact that I didn't have anything going to fuck you up, your buns were around. We would have, we'd have you up.
Starting point is 01:31:27 You sound like such a You know shit. Listen. We would have fucked you up. You're a fan. I was a fan. I was a fan. You're a rap fan, but you were not paying attention at that time.
Starting point is 01:31:37 You have no idea what was going on in New York at that time. You're just guessing. Watch this. You're just trying to act like you know what was going on at that time period, dude. I'm about to clown your dumb ass. Do it. Clown, you, you dumb as. There is literally nothing that could make you sound less.
Starting point is 01:31:55 You sound dumb as f***. You sound dumb as f***. I am infinitely more knowledgeable. than you on this topic. Stupid ass up. Nigger, what's that your dump? This is when he was getting on. Tom.
Starting point is 01:32:05 Yeah. You, you live. I'm talking to academic. I mean, a fucking Adam 22, right? This dummy is trying to tell me whack in the Papoose days
Starting point is 01:32:16 wasn't in New York. I didn't say that. You said what? I said you weren't a fan of the music and you're getting the timeline wrong. This is Topdorffam TDE. Now he's going to tell you some real shit.
Starting point is 01:32:29 Because he met Pat through me. My nigga gave me the key to New York. Plug me right in with everybody and went on and went to bed. I hit you back. Nick, you don't know the fuck I am. That's your problem. You don't know what I'm. I love how he said something that was completely unrelated to our entire conversation.
Starting point is 01:32:49 You just have him on the phone. You realize if you actually explained the context of what we just had a conversation about, that you would agree with me. This is topped off from TD to tell you that gave me the key to New York when I landed. Why did you have the key to New York? Bro, nigga, I was connected to everything.
Starting point is 01:33:09 Then why don't you know anything about what was going on in the streets in 2008? Bro. Why are you getting all the details wrong if you were actually around like that? You know what I mean? In my birthday parties, Papuos, respectfully him and his man Moose
Starting point is 01:33:20 came out and celebrated with me. I had an artist named Stacey Adams. You don't know the fuck that part? What? If you call Papoose, he'll tell you I'm right. No, he wouldn't. Yes, he would. Oh, he would.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Do it. Pap don't answer a lot, but he's not going to tell you you right. Well, if he does answer, he's going to tell you I'm right. Will you admit that you are... Oh, you can't tell me because you was a nobody-ass white boy, nigga. No, but you can't stand... Papoose will tell you. You can't stand with me, nigga, with this type of shit.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Papoose will tell you. Ask Pat Pooze who was the bigger rapper in 2008. It's a whole lot of shit you don't even know. You're just bringing up a bunch of unrelated shit because you know I'm right. Papoose will tell you I'm right. Man, shut your dumb ass. I want you to read the comment sections on this video. Fuck out of here, bro.
Starting point is 01:34:02 You sound dumb as fuck. Hey, shout out to New York. Let's see it. Because they are all finding out in real time that you don't know what the fuck is talking about. Ain't nobody from New York. I'll tell you Pat was dead. 06, 0708. No, who was bigger is the question in 2008.
Starting point is 01:34:18 12 underground, my nigga, fall off. They weren't, though. Max B was huge. No, he wasn't. Yes, he was. And what happened? Jim Jones was here. And he got locked up.
Starting point is 01:34:26 Exactly. Jim Jones and Max B. owned New York in that period. Jim Jones. And they were inseparable. Who do you think was writing all those Jim Jones songs? Max B.
Starting point is 01:34:38 Did Jim ever copped to that? Everyone knows it. Literally everyone. The fact that you don't know that right now is why you don't have any right to talk about this. Jim never cop to it. Yes, everyone knows that. Jim was in the studio?
Starting point is 01:34:50 Everyone knows. But you in the studio. You don't know what the fuck of studio. This is why you have no right to have this conversation. Diff with dumbass. You don't. Nicky you wasn't a wrong. You weren't a factor.
Starting point is 01:34:58 You don't know. that Max B. was writing Jim John's songs. Bro, I ain't never heard Jim Cop to it. So until Jim Cop to that, I'm not going to say it. He's probably admitted a million times. I don't know. I've never heard him cop to it.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Well, that's because you're not really a fan of this era of music. I've never heard Jim Cop to that. Got a hit, nigga. Niggas like you couldn't even survive back there. Niggas with an h-o-ass up. That's not being discussed. Beat the fuck out of you threw you in the trunk or something. That's not being discussed.
Starting point is 01:35:26 The mouth you got now, you couldn't have done none of that. That's not even being discussed. This is a fact. What is it saying? I saw no Jim Jones. Nah, take your punk ass back. It said whatever paid you, whatever you just ask. So you want to go on record with this?
Starting point is 01:35:40 It said no Jim Jones. So you don't think. You just switched them. Wait, I just want you to go on the record. You don't believe Max B ever wrote for Jim Jones? I've never heard Jim Jones say that. You never listen to Jim Jones from that era because if you did, then you wouldn't be able to argue this. Jim Jones.
Starting point is 01:35:53 Are you stupidest, nigger, any. You don't even need someone to tell you. It ain't a nigger in the streets. It wasn't listening to Jim Jones. What I'm telling you is I know that them niggas is beefing I hear niggins say shit about me That's totally false
Starting point is 01:36:07 Just as you do They've been beving for 20 years Okay, just as you do, right? And from my understanding He's saying that Jim Didn't give him his credit Right? Can I just thank you?
Starting point is 01:36:17 I don't know, I don't know, I don't know Can I just thank you? I don't know if Jim It's very rare that in podcasting That someone hands you a W In quite the way that you just handed me on. No, nobody fin of agree That papoos
Starting point is 01:36:29 So what are you going to say when everybody agrees? Nika, we didn't drop, we dropped sexy camera. What are you going to say when everybody agrees? What are you going to say? Something shit like that. What are you going to say? What are you going to say? The AI already said that I was right, so.
Starting point is 01:36:41 Fuck about, what no AI back then. No, the AI I just asked. You know, fuck about what you and your AI. That shit didn't, Nick, I'm talking about what I really was living, what I really saw. Like, nigga, we was like, like, hey, bro, look. I apologize for what they're about to do to you in the comments. This new shit. Because you have no fucking clue you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:36:58 No, no, no, no, no, no. This is new to you. New York hip-hop is new to you. You're dumbest. You know a goddamn thing about New York rap. No. Nick, I can call niggas for everybody from Eric B, nigga up to Funkmaster Flex and everything in between.
Starting point is 01:37:11 You don't know shit. So for the record. Papoose was harder than Maxby in 2008. This is his argument. No, what I'm telling you is, Papoose was not dead and fucking away. And why didn't his album come out until 2013? That don't mean you're dead, nigga.
Starting point is 01:37:27 You don't think the label would have put his album. album out if he had a hot song? If the label felt like they could make money off it, why wouldn't they have put the album out? What's the homie from at this part? Forget his name. RJ. RJ, right? Which, look, there's another example of me knowing more than you about
Starting point is 01:37:41 hip-on. What do you mean about hip-up? I'm talking about a homie. I know more about blood rappers than you. Listen, they only fuck what you because you got a platform. They don't fuck with you because you know real much. Talking about if they f***ing them. They don't know about knowledge because you know real mon'clock. So do you, RJ is like some guy from some neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:37:57 No, not at all. But you didn't even know his name. What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, RJ's another guy where somebody could say, well, he didn't drop an album, he didn't do this, and he didn't drop an album until the end, but RJ has always remained to be hot in our streets. Always, right?
Starting point is 01:38:15 Has he crossed over and going mainstream? No. Right, you didn't have some shit happening in his earlier years or whatever. But can't nobody ever say that RJ was dead in the water. always remain to be hot and had some type of presence going on. Back then, Pap ass was on fire. And I showed you, Remy didn't go to jail until 08.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Right, Remy would- Papoose was huge in 2003, 2004. By 2008, the steam had worn off. As you know, a lot could change over a few years like that. And Max B was absolutely much bigger at that time. Well, he didn't make it out here. Well, at least you seem to be acknowledging. And just so you know, I was bi-coastal.
Starting point is 01:39:00 I'm not these little dudes y'all got it. You know, 99% of these people outside of Lush, maybe, right? These niggas is hamsters. They ain't never been nowhere. They wasn't around. They weren't around back then. They can't have these conversations. You can't have some of these conversations with me.
Starting point is 01:39:17 Then why am I right? Because you were a fucking fan. Yeah. And that's why I know so much more about this than you. Listen, I was dealing with these people personally. But that doesn't make you an expert in the actual music. Hey, bro, you so much shit went on that you niggas have no ideas crazy. But I'm going to let you run your play.
Starting point is 01:39:35 That was Top Dog from TD. He got one of the biggest. And you can keep him on the line long enough to actually ask him the question. That's my G-Rong. Nor would he even probably really know the answer. He did do that. So he told you, he, well, you telling me. You're telling me.
Starting point is 01:39:48 You're telling me. We didn't ask him about that. I wouldn't really expect him to care or no. But you were saying who I was. who I was and wasn't in New York. No, you could have been around. You're just wrong about the calendar. You didn't exist.
Starting point is 01:40:03 I actually was. You was non-existent. I lived there that entire time. You were non-existent though. No, but I lived there. You were non-existent. Buying the mixtapes as they came out, whereas you just kind of like heard about these rappers.
Starting point is 01:40:14 I sat there and watch my brother get hit with the first lawsuit behind the mixtapes. You never listen to these guys. What are you talking about, bro? You can't even name Papu's on us. I can name five papoos mixtapes and a hundred songs. Do it. But it's no need for me to do it because you a white boy is asking a stupid-ass question.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Okay, I'm whack. You're going to have to hold the cell. L's up for my hitters. Hey, bro. RIP, Wack in the chat. The top dog called killed you. No, it did. You wasn't.
Starting point is 01:40:45 But top dog did tell you. You hung up immediately because you knew you wrong. Because I'm not going to keep a man of that statue that is my G-holme. on that line. You could ask them one question. I'm not, not. But as specified, he probably wouldn't necessarily...
Starting point is 01:41:01 There's no jumper. I'm not here. That ain't worthy a top dog. I'm out of here, bro. That's just my homeboy when he picked the phone up. You know what I'm saying? So what I'm saying is you wasn't around.
Starting point is 01:41:10 No, I was. Way more than you. Shout out to everybody who watched this. Smash a like button. Adam and Wack Show. Become a member of the Wack Pack down below by becoming a member. And we'll see you guys next week.
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