No Jumper - Mickey Truth on Exposing Rappers, FBG Butta, 1090 Jake, Bricc Baby & More
Episode Date: April 5, 2024Mickey Truth talks about how she got into her lane of content, rappers wanting to f*ght her, FBG Duck, Butta, Von, and more! ----- 0:00 Intro 0:00 Mickey on 1090 Jake comparisons 1:03 Mickey upbringi...ng in South Carolina. She says both her parents were career cr*minals and would always have her read his paperwork because he didn't trust the legal system 4:50 Mickey on linking up with Wack 100 and covering the BMF paperwork. She says once she started covering Chicago content she stopped being in Wack’s clubhouse. She says 1090 Jake was her mentor at one point 8:05 She talks about the Bleu Davinci and the BMF case being her first story. She says the paperwork cost her $1,000. 10:05 She says she got doxxed by someone on clubhouse because of 1090 Jake. She says 1090’s first paperwork was fake and the person that put it out was mad she cleared 1090’s name 13:13 Adam asks Mickey her opinion on snitching. She calls out all the Chicago rappers and says they all snitched! Butta called the police on her for exposing the fact he took the stand in the FBG Duck trial. She revealed that Butta was trying to fight her during the trial. 16:30 Ceddy Nash was arrested that day in court. She says his video on YouTube telling people to crash out on Butta was the reason he was arrested. She refuses to bring up Trenches Newz 21:45 Mickey talks about going viral for wearing a Free Muwop t-shirt, meeting Momma Duck and Muwop’s mother. She says the story line on the Duck case is one sided 29:14 Mickey talks about Butta going on DJ U and trash talking her, thr**tening her and her daughter 32:00 She says she was never into exposing people but she was merely a fact checker, says Zoo didnt snitch, says other bigger YouTubers will pay her to break down paperwork for their videos 41:15 She says everyone is fair game but if she knew you before the fame she won’t expose you. Adam says he turned down 03 Greedo’s paperwork and sent it to 1090 Jake 44:55 Mickey on Fyndee Boy and how he lied about his case being closed, the victim reached out to her and confirmed that his case is still open 48:29 She revealed that her interview with DJ U isn’t coming out because she feels Butta thr**tened DJ U, Butta even told her that her No Jumper interview wasn’t coming out 51:03 Mickey speaks on her past beef with KingAK47, she says it stemmed from Zoo’s paperwork 52:00 Riemoh asks her about the YNW Melly case, she says she hasnt really covered it but feels like he could probably get convicted for witness tampering 55:16 Mickey says she beat 1090 Jake to the punch with the Boston Richey paperwork but was overshadowed, says Soulja Boy for not really shooting his home invaders the way he portrayed on VLADTV 57:05 Mickey says she doesnt pull paperwork anymore and wants to focus on interviews and fact checking. She says she went to Quando Rondo’s trial and heard wiretaps and says that lil durk and bricc baby are no way involved in the m*rder of Lul Paab 59:16 Mickey speaks on her current relationship with Wack 100. She says she isn’t part of the Exposers. She feels like Finesse2Tymes is the only rapper that would actually crash out on a media personality 1:02:56 Mickey reveals that she’s been married for 14 years and her husband doesn’t really like her covering rappers snitch content 1:04:40 Mickey says paperwork content creators need to focus on the truth and says putting out lies about people can really affect someone's life Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No jumper, coolest podcast in the world.
And today I am in here with my man Remo and we're having a conversation with somebody
who's been known to make a lot of noise on the internet.
And today we're going to learn all about them.
Mickey Truth is in the building.
How are you doing today?
Hey, I'm doing.
Thank you for having me.
Very excited to.
Maybe truth on no jumper is crazy.
That's amazing.
Yes.
They call you the female 1090 Jake.
Do you resent that?
You know what?
No, I don't.
But it came a point where I felt like I was in here.
shadow though.
Because he's a little bit more of a public figure.
He's making videos on a day-by-day basis.
You're doing a lot of your work on, like, clubhouse and whatnot, right?
I used to.
I used to.
Okay.
But, yeah, that's what got me in the Chicago sector.
It was a way to get out his shadow because he wasn't really heavy as far as covering it.
Okay.
So I was like, okay.
O-block trial.
There's a lot going on.
Yeah.
Ten 90 ain't touching on it.
Perfect time.
The segue, you know, it was good for me.
Okay.
So tell us a little bit about your.
your early life before you became an
exposure, though. I want to know the whole story here.
Well, I'm from South Carolina.
A lot of people get it confused. I'm from
like Chicago.
I'm from South Carolina, 803 to be a ZAC.
And my dad and my mom are career criminals.
Like, they've been in and out of the system.
So more so my dad,
I was his personal assistant.
Like, get the paperwork. What are they saying?
He ain't trust his lawyer. You know what I'm saying?
So starting as a teenager, I was into paper
were understanding it because I had to take what I heard in court,
explain it to my dad, take what the lawyer said,
explaining it's explained it to my dad.
So he accidentally raised a kid who was like fully immersed
in how to read legal paperwork at a very young age.
Right, without ever like really being in the criminal system myself.
What kind of charges did he ultimately catch?
What kind of stuff was he into?
Robberies, you know, kidnap and stuff like that.
Okay.
And was he not?
Free my daddy, by the way, because he locked up now too.
For what?
robbery.
Holy shit.
But like, was he not great at reading?
Or was he just a little confused by the whole thing?
It's one thing about the legal thing.
A lot of words don't mean what you think they mean.
So to him, lawyers be fast talking salespeople.
So like, he's like, okay, I get what you're saying.
Everything will work out.
That's what that really means.
So he'll look at me like, that's what that really mean.
And then I had to just breaking down to him like, you know, well, yeah, that's what I mean.
But no, daddy, like, nah, that's not really what that mean.
You're probably about to do some time.
You know, Lewis tried to sugar code.
They don't want you to get too upset with them while they're there.
Now, once they leave, you at the jailhouse, you call them on the phone.
They might, but most times they don't want to break the news to you in person.
But it doesn't seem like you were influenced by him to actually become involved in crime.
You can tell me if I'm wrong about that, but it seems like it more led you to be sort of fascinated by analyzing crime and legal paperwork.
As a teenager, I, I'm a teenager.
I played some games
and could have went down a different route.
I had a daughter as a teenager,
so that kind of took me back to like, hold up.
I can't be moving around like this.
And then it got up to a point I had to say,
I can't blame my parents for my choices now
because I'm making them.
Being born into it is their choices
that led to how I grew up.
But when I became a mother,
I can't blame my parents
as to what I'm doing to be away from my daughter.
So I ain't going to get into all that.
But as a teen, I was a little,
out there, but then I got it together and I used it for good because before I even became a YouTuber,
before anything that, I would still be the person people would call to help them understand
whether it's family court papers because I've been through the foster care system.
You know what I'm saying?
I will help people with civil just, you know, for YouTube, criminal was the way to go.
But it was just kind of like a hobby, just something that you were interested in?
Yeah, just good at it, you know, a legal assistant by trade, you know what I'm saying?
Oh, so that, you did end up like going into.
to it as your field.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Yeah.
Like in real time.
Where'd you go to college?
No, I did it by trade.
Oh, okay.
I don't know about every statement in South Carolina.
If you work for a legal law office, you can get the experience and then you can just take
the test.
Oh, cool.
And get your certification, paralegal certification.
That's tough.
Yeah.
Now, I'm not an act of paralegal now.
I want to run with that.
But I have worked as that in my own real life.
Wait.
So the stuff that you're doing now, would that be like, I don't.
of bounds if you're actually working.
That's a paralegal, really? That would be mad.
Yeah, that would be, because there will be a conflict of interest.
You can't, you know, you can't openly just be working on stuff like that.
But see.
You can't be collaborating with WAC 100 if you want to be taking serious in the fields.
And shout out of WAC 100.
Sorry, Wack.
Because early on, that's why I think I first started seeing you.
You were collaborating with WAC on the HUNE and T side of the thing.
Right.
So I didn't start with them over there, right?
I just happened.
He came across me with the BMF case.
A lot of people don't know.
That's what created the queen of paperwork.
I went through all the BMF cases.
Georgia, Michigan, and California.
That's what created the queen of paperwork.
And that's how me and Watt 100 came across each other.
Because he's like, who is this shit?
You know, with interviews with Blue D'Vinci and stuff,
talking about talking to Cove, you know, like,
and that's how we joined up.
It was so crazy.
Chicago is what ended my time on Clubhouse
because Watt didn't want me covering the Chicago content.
He said,
did all that.
What you doing it for?
Not really, right.
Like, Act covered it back in the day with the Warren Shirek shit, but it's not like he was doing
like deep legal digging into like who was snitching or anything.
And even now, like, Act will touch on shit from Chicago, but he wouldn't say that he's, you know,
really trying to like be the judge of like who told.
And like it's like, like, act does seem kind of like weirdly familiar with like legal
paperwork and stuff sometimes, but it doesn't seem like he's trying to make that a specialty.
Yeah.
So that was really what made me.
leave clubhouse because me and whack
would bump heads all the time
because he was like, no, you need to cover Nicky Minaj
or you need to cover. I'm like, I ain't
doing what I need because like I said, I wanted to get out of
1090 J's shadow.
I was in this
weird space between him and whack at one point
and then I couldn't get
from under him. We would cover the same cases
and his would make no jumper.
You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, man, I got
got to figure out something he ain't doing so
it can be Mickey Truth and not 1090 Jake
all the time. I mean 109 and Jake does have like
good relationship with me, you, a few other people.
So it's like he seems like he knows when if he wants to send a video to somebody
or let him know before it's coming out.
He maybe does a little bit better.
He sent me to y'all with the little Tim thing.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so I do remember that because he was, I'm a sender to Remo.
And so, yeah, I salute to him.
I mean, our relationship ain't like it used to be.
I can't tell you why.
I don't know if it's because the whole whack thing at one point, we don't talk no more.
But I still appreciate them because, you know, I learned a lot.
from him for sure. Yeah, because I do remember
him saying that he used to teach you a little bit of
a few things. Yeah, like he, like, I got
good at the FOIA. The FOIA. Yeah, because he
helped me with wording. Like,
when I started this YouTube thing, it was
to another level. See, I was just playing around
for fun at first. But then when I start, like, people started
noticing, like, you really know what you're talking about. You
should do this case. And I'm like, well, hold on, how do I,
you know, how do I get that? How do I get, you know? So I say
10-9 was like a mentor at.
one time, but at some point, you know, you got to kind of leave the mentor to do your own thing
because people kept wanting me to be like him.
Our styles are always, have been different.
But, you know, he was into snitching.
I didn't care about snitching.
It was the case that was intriguing to me.
But because I came under him, it was like, okay, you need to care about snitching too.
So.
But like, it's like if you're going to do a full analysis of a case, it's kind of like what,
Are you going to use as the clickbait to really get people to pay attention to it?
Because a lot of the cases that you've looked into, like the BMF thing in particular, were you looking into it?
From the perspective of like, I want to figure out who told in this case or just in general to understand it.
No, to be honest, it was the whole B, not BMLF, Blue DaVinci dropped the paper saying, me choose a snitch.
And I'm like, that paper that you drop, I ain't saying it. It's from the defense.
And one thing I love to tell people is you have to pay attention who is putting the document out.
The defense is there to paint this storyline.
Right.
So you have to see what came with the response.
So this particular document off a cuff case was saying that Meach was a third party cooperator in the case.
But if you read the transcripts to the hearing, they basically clear him of that by saying no, he wasn't.
and aware of it.
But just looking at that one document by the defense, you would have thought that.
And, I mean, that's still up for debate, depending on who you ask.
But that's how me and cuff, who case it is now, created a relationship.
He calls me from the feds and all and updates me.
And, you know, I put little clips out he wanted to put out.
So it's just you got to read more than one document.
And that's why I'm so good at what I do because I don't mind buying the whole case and reading it.
You have to buy it?
Yeah, for Fed case, you got to buy it.
How much does that end up costing?
15 cent per page.
And anytime you click and pacer, it's 10 cents.
Now 15 cents, 10 cents.
Anytime you click.
So it costs.
Click like, click to.
So as you log in, it's 10 cent every time you click.
BMF, all three case costs me about $1,000.
Really?
And this was, ooh, I was really a small channel back then.
And do you have any hope of like making that money back or does it?
Yeah, that's why I'm on that.
Okay.
That's kind of why you decided to pursue YouTube over Clubhouse?
Yeah.
Or were you always doing both?
No, I started YouTube first.
I went to Clubhouse because everybody was like,
you need to get on all the social media platforms.
It was something new.
It was a way to connect with people that like to talk.
So, yeah.
Yeah, Clubhouse does seem like it makes sense for networking.
I just am a little skeptical about building a business on their long term.
Yeah, it's different.
I got dogs on there.
It's different.
Really?
They don't play no game.
Who dog is he?
I ain't about to get it.
I have no clout.
No.
How did you manage to piss somebody off that bed?
1090J.
Really?
Yeah.
You think he's sick somebody on you or somebody was just a fan of him?
An enemy of them, basically.
So at this time, the first set of paperwork for 1090J that said when he was 18, he got some kids locked up.
Oh, right.
That was fake.
The broken window thing?
Right.
Okay.
So I requested it because 1090J is a big use of.
I'm upcoming YouTube for sure I'm about to run it.
It was fake.
The guy that put it out was mad about it because by that point, I started to make my own traction on Clubhouse with the BMF thing.
And I guess because he felt some type of way that I suppose that he put out fake paperwork he called itself exposing me or doxomy.
But the crazy thing is my identity was never a secret.
I already had said my name anyway.
So it wasn't like, you know.
Was it awkward or upsetting?
Did they put out like your address or anything
No, they were concerned about?
No, they just put my name and some pictures
Because at the time, I was behind the camera.
I didn't show myself.
Okay.
But I was already on the verge of working on that.
Once I found out if I wanted to do it for real.
So I mean, if anything, they just,
they created a monster by doing it
because now I'm like, shit, my name out there,
my face out there.
Like, whatever.
Let's get it.
So it's like, now it's like, what can you do?
And I will say shout out of whack for this, though,
because he said,
I mean, what can they say about you?
Like, you ducking something?
You scared or something?
I'm like, no.
Then he would like, so what?
So now it'd be like when people are like, oh, Mickey Truth Expose.
That's the favorite YouTube titles.
Mickey Truth Expose.
I'm like, okay, try your big one.
Like, what you're going to say?
You don't have anything to hide?
No.
And if anything, like, I said one time on a lie,
hell no, I ain't always pay my bills.
Like, what y'all are going to put there?
I ain't pay a light bill before.
I don't have no background to say, like, oh, you.
and, you know, whatever.
I tell y'all, both my parents were criminals.
That's their life, not mine.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, I tell my own stuff.
So it's like, what can you say?
That is a fact, though, as soon as you get into the business of exposing people,
and we've seen it with whack and we've seen it with 1090 Jake,
that, like, people just go very out of their way to paint any possible negative narrative about you.
Like the stuff with 1090 Jake, I feel like is like a big stretch in terms of,
like, they've just really taken anything they can get their hands on.
anything. That's why I say, yeah. For sure, I caught shoplifting when I was 18.
You know what I'm saying? I work in corporate America. Trust me, there ain't nothing there.
And I'm not in the streets. They love to say, you're not street. I never said I was.
I'm a law about it. But how do you feel about snitches?
I per se snitching to each his own. However, I don't like when you don't stand on it.
Because that shows a bad reflection of you. Like, if you told, say you told, like,
what you're sitting here
to fletting it for
and that's why Chicago
is so
fun to be in
because almost all of my snitches
but they're not going to say
these snitches.
Almost all of them
like let's be real
almost all of them
like who
FBI Butterful
Shoe show
and I'm not talking about
just on
okay so I call him
the police
because he literally called
the police on me
like that's a fact
that's in the paper word
that I have today
why did you do
because he was a cry baby
and he didn't want me telling what
he was saying on the stand
before he could get his ass on his tour
and lie. Because you was at the trial
I was at the trial when he was on the stand.
So you and the FBG butter, FBI
butter as you would say. Yeah.
Y'all beef stemmed from you going on live
with 16 shot on? Yes, that's how it started.
I went on there and I didn't say nothing bad. I just
was like, yeah, he was, he pointed
out King Von, he pointed out this
person, whatever, but they all did
you know. And then I said,
his mom got paid, right?
That's what I said.
His mom got paid.
Now, I got that from his count, right?
So he went on this whole thing.
Oh, my mom didn't get paid.
Oh, no, he went on 16 and said he didn't get paid.
I never said you got paid.
I said your mom got paid.
So when Chicago Sun Time dropped the article,
Mickey Truth lied about, you know,
witness mom getting paid.
No, the defense said Mickey Truth lied
because they wanted the prosecution to reply
if that was true or not, and what did they do?
They replied and said, hey, we told you that FBI butter family member got paid to relocate.
How much did she get paid and did she get paid?
So I was told $2,700, but, let me clarify, that never came out the dollar amount.
So I can't say on record for show that's what she got paid, but it's in black and white.
But that was a whole narrative, right?
they was paying. Oh, it was over a lie.
Per the paperwork,
FBI butter, okay,
was throwing a his seat.
The morning I got put out of court,
running out the witness room to try to fight me
because he was upset.
Did he actually try to fight me again anywhere near you?
I wasn't there, so I didn't know what was going on.
But in the paperwork, the police wrote an affidavit saying
they had to chase behind him downstairs to, like,
bring him back to the witness thing.
What a zoo this trial was?
because think about the
with Settie Nash
getting like arrested for just being there
and stuff because he made a YouTube video where he said...
And that is true for those.
It happened the same day.
Really?
The same time.
Like I met Sidi Nash that more.
That was the first time I ever met him.
Facts.
And that's why I don't talk about that witness.
Because one thing that's different
between witnesses,
an informant is like a police officer.
I don't give him.
He tried to come at me on all angles.
I don't respond to him
because you will.
They was trying to lock sitting nash up
offer that witness.
So break down
why said he got arrested?
What was going to be arrested?
Because basically
he left
a statement
on YouTube that said,
hey,
y'all need to crash out
and basically
kill this dude
for doing all this telling.
Basically,
that's a
government property.
You can't do that.
Like,
that's different.
You can't do that
with a regular person,
but really a government
informant,
That's like doing that on the police officer.
It's just kind of crazy that they weren't motivated enough to actually like send police after him or like file like a real investigation or whatever, but that they saw him in court and they were like, oh, we know what you said and we don't want you here.
So we're going to interrogate you and tell you to delete the video.
Like that's just so bizarre.
Right.
And then what's crazy is to see what people got mixed up was they tried to tie me into that situation.
That was a totally different situation.
My situation was solely on FBI button.
He told them Mickey Truth.
That's how they knew who I was.
He told him.
It says,
Rakeen Wilton told agents,
Mickey Truth,
a blogger that was in the courtroom,
like he said it.
That made them go to my YouTube page
and went looking at stuff I had posted.
Now, this is the thing.
The other person,
I did way more views.
He was, like, to this date,
that's my top video when I did his.
About who?
The other one, I don't even say his name, the snitchist news one.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I don't even talk about him because it won't get me.
But top view video.
But you go look at a video that made $3,000 and like, why would they do that if I got one that's $40,000?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, Trenches News.
He's a weird one because he came on here, had like a pretty normal conversation.
I would say aside from the fact that Remo did like press him pretty hard about
Tellin and he didn't really answer the question and like you were sort of able to like read
between the lines and be like oh he's like kind of admitting that he did this or whatever and
then ever since then like every interview that he goes on he talks about how no jumper was
nothing special no jumper is whatever fuck them like it's just kind of like progressively got
like more extreme and I don't really know where it's coming from
Because, I mean, it's not like we really, like, claim to be, like, super special or whatever.
It's like we do interviews.
We invited you on.
But now his thing is to say, like, it ain't all that.
It's like, well, did we really say we were all that?
Like, that's a weird insult.
Like, I call, so I self-reclaim myself queen of paperwork.
Okay.
He's mad about that.
I'm like, do you want to be the queen of paperwork?
Like, what is it?
It'd be like, the dudes that'd be so mad about it.
Like, I'm like, why are y'all so mad about me calling myself queen of paperwork?
if you don't think so cool.
Like, that's crazy.
So what are all the Trenge's news
had to say about you?
I don't listen to him, so I get little clips.
He basically, like, try to just, like,
talk about me being big,
all type of shit like that.
Stuff, like, bruh, you wear a mask.
You don't even like how you look.
We don't even know what he looked.
I mean, I got to see him.
You did, huh?
Yeah.
Like, I found his Facebook, so I saw him.
And I think that's really why he was mad.
Because, like, his picture had been out.
I just confirmed.
it was him but yeah like dude you don't even like yourself and see that's the thing they can't
hold a match to me when it comes to i'm gonna be honest the last person i actually had a good
conversation with about legal stuff was 1090 j as far as a blogger or a YouTuber no no can't hold a match
they'll start saying well the street sales street business if you don't understand just say that
or if you they man's let me tell you they just be saying all types of weird stuff like for example
with this moow up thing you know they're saying oh
he getting a new lawyer, no, he got the same lawyer,
but instead of his family having to pay this lawyer,
now the state or the government is going to pay this lawyer.
That's how I go.
Like, same way we do content and maybe a little play in it.
The legal system is like that.
Why have your family or a family pay a lawyer
that's about to be on the case for a while
because they got to go through motions, appeals, all that?
When you can just say,
he don't got on income.
What he's doing?
He in jail.
Why is the taxpayer on the hook to pay the legal bills of a murderer who killed a rapper
that we personally like?
Like, we all kind of bummed out about this whole duck thing and we got to pay this
motherfucker's legal bills?
And that's what's so intriguing about the legal system, though.
Right.
You know, we foot the bill for it at all.
The case.
Now, mind you, that shit was a circus.
You got FBI buddy saying he was lying just to get free.
them. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was a circus and the
taxpayers are going to have to pay for it. But that's
just how the legal system go. You know, it just goes like that. So,
just to clarify that he got the same lawyer just now the
government is paying for it.
Compared to, you know, the family or whatever. And
I'm just going to bring it up. You know, I went viral
not too long ago because I had a free MOWP shirt, right?
And it was kind of, all right, so before
you say that, Mama Duck,
invited you to the trial because that's what she said she didn't invite me to the trial like I said
I came up to go to the trial on live with seddy Nash because said Nash was like yo the trenches news thing
is like crazy I wanted to go see him so testify but I got there when FBI butter but that's how I got
there however when I made it to the trial she I met her she was very nice I ain't about to see her
and say like she was mean to me she was nice but have you all spoken beforehand like did you guys
have any type of relationship before you even...
A relationship, no. She popped up on a live I was on,
but we didn't have a relationship.
We kind of built a rapport that day.
But what people don't know, I met Mouwak mama too.
I tapped them with both of them.
His mama's just behind the scenes.
She don't talk publicly like Mama Duck.
And she invited me to FVG Duck's birthday party.
So I stepped out for a few minutes and went to the party.
Like I said, I'm not about to sit here and say she mistreated me.
but one thing about my content
that's not the first free
somebody's shirt I don't wore a free
melly shirt
that's part of my content
it's like if it's unjustly being done
because again a legal system
is not about if you really did something
or not let's be real it's about the storyline
what you can prove with that storyline
and if that's not being done
then I'm gonna say free again my daddy
free my daddy free Papa Truth
you know I'm saying
I have family members as an assistant
I'm not about to sit here and just be okay with an unjustly conviction.
No.
Like, do your job the right way.
We don't have to worry about appeals.
We don't have to worry about people getting out because you did it the right way.
But what people don't know, that storyline that we got from the trial was one side of it.
It wasn't the full details.
The video that came out, that's the video.
It's not going to be clear like us sitting here, how when it drops, no video came out like that.
That video that got leaked is the video.
So you actually think.
that Muwab is not as guilty as the other ones?
I'm not going to say that because I never get into that
because you never know who did something.
What I can say, the evidence isn't there.
Really?
Nobody.
So one misconception is that he was pointed out
in the car at the dealership.
That's incorrect.
I got that testimony too.
I don't know if the salesperson finance guy,
he never saw nobody else in the car except Loz.
That's who he identified.
He didn't see nobody walking.
away from the car.
There's no video showing like,
okay,
well maybe Mouwap and Zell Muna got out up the street.
They don't have no video of that.
The baby mama,
lost baby mama,
testified that the federal government
wanted her,
pressure her to say it was Moo-WOP.
She wasn't sure who the other person was.
You know what I'm saying?
That's not enough in the court of law
and see what people feel to realize
when this goes to appeal,
because it probably will,
you know,
even though he's up for a quarter of,
acquittal, they probably going to deny it.
But one ground for appeal is, does the evidence prove a guilty verdict?
And they were supposed to be individually looked at.
Not all together.
It was supposed to be each defendant.
It wasn't enough on him.
I mean, just period.
I mean, that's just, that's just legal.
So you think he hopped in the car at O'block and drove there, but there's no proof
that he actually did anything once they got there?
I'm going to say, I don't even know if he hopped in the car.
Really?
Because in the video, it doesn't, we don't see who hopped in the car.
Like on some real stuff.
Now, even in the hallway, we can assume who it is.
But if you would have never told me who was supposed to be involved,
I wouldn't have been able to say, that's this person, that's that person.
And I reacted to the video.
Like, you really don't know.
The only reason I have an assumption because the government put in the paperwork,
who was who.
I feel like I'm at the point.
my life where like for sure
when I was younger I would have said
free this rapper
no problem I feel like
I'm probably at the point where if a rapper
is accused of murder I'm not
gonna be saying free them now if it's like
meek Mill locked up for doing
a fucking wheelie or whatever
but I don't really run around saying free young thug
even though I fuck with young thug I don't really run around
saying free a lot of people like a lot
of people who are facing serious charges
and I want them to get out but
I also, like in the case of Melly, it would feel kind of callous for me to wear that shirt,
given that I, you know, granted, I have a relationship with him and I fuck with him,
but I also have, like, been around the dudes who are killed.
And I don't really want to be seen as, like, taking a stand without necessarily having done the homework.
And even if I did the homework, I mean, the homework is leading me to a conclusion that I don't really want to come to,
since I'm friends with the guy.
But, you know, I don't know.
The whole free someone's shirt thing is a little.
Yeah, and like, and now I never took away from Mama Duk
If she felt some type of way like at the end day
That's what people like got missed up
I never said like I'm against her being mad
What I said was
How can you be mad at me like that
That you went on four or five lives right
But you have your grandkids dad
On interviews saying he lied on the stand
Which is a grounds for appeal already
That he lied on the stand to get
get them out.
That was my whole thing.
Like,
Macon Mason,
you don't know me for real.
You say you don't know her.
Like,
I don't know,
Mickey.
She's,
I don't know her for real.
But that's fucked up.
What she did.
But you co-signing
what FBI but is doing?
Did you go to the birthday party?
I did stop by.
I did.
And this was before
after you wore the shirt.
It was before.
It was the same day of trial.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
Like, I met her at trial
and I stopped by me and my cousin went.
So you can kind of see why she would fill away,
though,
I'm in bad taste a little bit to like if you went to the birthday party,
then she see you later on that week wearing a free Mouwop shirt after going to Ducks.
Now, like I said, I don't take away from her fill of some type of way, right?
However, me as a content creator, that's just like, it's consistent with what I do.
However, I just was like, why you ain't just hit me up, though?
Like, you went on five lives telling, oh, y'all tell Mickey to call me.
She's a contact creator too.
Right.
So everybody got mad because I said, y'all falling up mama duck.
She ain't mad for real.
It's content.
You know what I'm saying?
They got mad at me for that.
I feel like she's mad for real probably, right?
Nah, she hit me up on the back end later, but by then I was mad.
I'm like, you don't call me all types of bitches and shit.
I don't want to talk to you now.
But it is funny how like even when we were talking to Buda about her, what did he say?
He called you a bitch.
She called you whatever names, making fun of your body type or whatever.
And he was basically saying, like, I never heard of her.
I don't know her, which is like, they're all weird
insults that have absolutely nothing to do with
what we're actually talking about, right?
And he mentioned, and see, this is the thing.
That's why I had to, I was mad when I heard it,
more so though DJU, because he actually threatened me on DJU.
See, he was more, like, respectable on y'all's on DJU.
And that's why I wore the fuck FBI butter shirt when I went to DJU.
And what exactly did he say on there that you?
He was basically saying he was going to send or could,
some people to kill me and my daughter type thing.
Dear Lord.
And I'm like, so you're going to, your little homies going to go crash out so you can tell on them.
So that's what we're doing.
Like, you're just, because you're definitely going to tell because what people don't know.
And the next time y'all talk to him, ask him, what did he all, he had to tell on on that proffer in 2015?
Y'all know why a lot of murders got solved, even though it was, the suspects was dead.
ask him about that how all them
cases got closed. In 2015
when he called that murder case.
You're telling me something I don't know about
ISO proffer. Yeah. But so the
information from the proffer is in public?
No. You just know there was a proffer.
Yeah, if you read O.D. Perry,
the source of the RICO.
Remember, that's what started the whole RICO
for the O Block one, right?
If you read his murder paper, where
it says two STL
members
that was in jail in
2015 for first degree murder in the suburbs,
contacted the state attorney's office to provide information that K.I.
and Bolstrel committed this murder.
And they received a proffer.
Now, I hate to do it a little J,
but what other two people associated with STL was in jail for murder in the suburbs
in 2015?
You're saying that they both had the Italian beef and Pepsi, perhaps.
Now, it got me to thinking out now,
This is my assumption at this point, though.
It got me to think, you know, the whole thing,
Lil Jay saying, oh, Butter is snitched on me, right?
It seemed like maybe Lil Jay backed out of his proffer,
and that's why he got more time than Butter did.
But, yeah.
And just know the truth team is on it.
We wait in.
This little bombs show right there.
I didn't know about that.
Tell him to talk about that.
That's probably why he going on these interviews saying,
oh, this person killed that person because he even told the people that.
But that's crazy if that's true.
because FBFBG butter,
when he was doing his Vlad interview,
I was kind of taken aback.
And given the history, it's not that crazy,
but like the way he was talking about O.D. Perry was saying, like,
well, that's why O.D. got a shit splat.
And I'm just like, oh, my God, you're still out here.
Like, normally even the killers don't really talk about the people
that got killed, like, in such graphic detail.
Like that, I'm kind of like, oh, my God.
Now, think about who else, like, really outside with the Chicago personalities,
ever said K.I actually killed OD besides butter.
He basically said it, right?
Yeah, so like, it makes sense.
Like, it's you.
Now, again, it don't say FBI butter in that paperwork.
But, hey.
Crazy.
Do you think it takes somebody from outside of the, like,
normal rapper group to be able to, like,
have clear thought processes on this kind of shit?
Because it's like, 10-90, Jake,
whenever he says something about somebody telling,
it's like you're white, you're fat,
fuck you, you're from Boston,
you know, like whereas with you,
it's like you're a woman,
it's kind of like,
you're not street.
I mean,
I guess WAC is somebody who's like fully from the environment
that he's kind of talking about,
but also I see WAC as being somewhat compromised
when it comes to certain people.
He definitely does not talk about everybody equally.
There's been some L.A. rappers who've been accused of snitchin
and I brought it up to him and he's like,
I don't know.
I didn't look into that one.
And then you bring up other people and he's like,
Well, I've got this piece of paperwork.
Check this out right here.
He's like got all his information together.
So I wouldn't say that he's necessarily like trying to be the judge jury in execution.
And even 1090 Jake said that he's kind of trying to fall back from it.
He wants to do podcasts and not necessarily expose people.
I felt bad from.
See, I never was a exposer.
I was a fat checker though.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I never.
Like nobody can ever say I expose them as a snitch.
I will verify it though once it comes out.
But I never expose nobody.
However, some people say I'm biased.
But I'm not.
I treat every case the same.
Like Bezou, everybody swearing down.
I'm biased.
That's not because I say he ain't tell on neither the cases I covered.
And I'm just like I did it just like I would do anybody else.
So how is that being biased?
But fill us in on the details of that.
I haven't honestly even been keeping up to it except I've seen a few people.
Okay.
So the Atlanta case with Dirt, Bezoo, and King Von,
was my first case with a Chicago rapper at all.
I got certified copies of that case, paperwork.
It was going to fall apart.
Nobody was going to do time for that.
Even if Vaughn was still alive,
they couldn't even send in paperwork to indict him
before he died for pre-trial.
Like, that's in the paperwork.
What was alleged that happened just for those
who haven't looked into this in a while?
So, allegedly, a robbery to the place
and the victim got shot.
Alex and I actually talked to Alex.
Dirk Vaughn and Bezou.
Okay, who got killed in Miami
during Rolling Loud actually a few years back.
But they were in Atlanta and what?
They see somebody and they end up like. No, they were all
hanging out of their friends. Right. The guy that got shot.
Oh, they, even the guy who got shot was their friend.
Yeah, they were in the car. So I think Sadden Nash
put out the actual video of the incident.
He did. Oh, he did? And so
allegedly, if you compare the report with the video,
Dirk and Vaughn was in one car, Bezou, and the victim was in another car, where the shooting took place.
Now, up until recently, the paperwork said the victim said Bezou shot him.
And the victim died?
No, no, no.
A victim still around.
He actually just got out of jail not too long ago.
I actually spoke with him on a FaceTime, and he said that, hey, I can get you in touch with him.
the victim said he was sedated
and the police was asking him questions
and they just kind of like
okay you said this
I'm put this in the report
but he said he never said anything
that's why the case fell apart
so they didn't have no evidence
that's true
all this Yvonne was alive
when he was alive
March 2020
pre-trial son a letter
to the state attorney's office
like hey y'all haven't indicted him
we're about to relieve him from the services.
Yeah, because that's what
people were saying. They said, Vaughn was alive. He would have been charged
for it. He was the fall guy.
They were trying to make it out like Dirk snitched on him
after he died. Yeah, that was on.
The troops falling apart. They didn't have a
corroborated victim no more.
You know, none of that. So that was one.
The second one was the murder case
with
what was it, 2009, but I think
Bazu got picked him like 2014.
And that just, you know,
and it's about consistency.
in paperwork, they don't have a statement from him.
They just said, okay, this person identified X, Y, Z as X, Y, Z, but he said they all
home together.
That's it.
Like, how are y'all saying that snitching when the ones who actually snitch, they have
the statement saying, so-and-so said him, Basel, this person, that person, went to
the store, he saw him shoot, that snitching.
You're giving a statement.
you know you can't just go off of because the report says somebody said they was with somebody
without where's the statement where they actually said we were together at this crime scene
that's not what happened and see this is why I feel like somebody like you were 1090 Jig is actually
doing like very important work because realistically I'm in the position where even if I knew
the bays you were told on somebody it doesn't fucking matter to me because I'm just you know I'll
interview him again we could talk about it whatever it's not the end of the world to me but
for a lot of these people who come from this way of life
this is the biggest deal in the fucking world
to them and they want to know who they can trust
and the problem is is that it's not like we can just ignore it
because I guarantee you I can go find
10, 20 videos on YouTube right now calling Bezoo a snitch
by people who did a shoddy job of looking into it, right?
Facts and that's why I'm most hated
when it comes to that because I
the switches. Everybody was like, he told
he beat two switches.
The video is out
the body cam, right?
I just recently did this video.
I went over the paperwork. This is where
you have to have a mind
for law, right? Then I watched
the video. I said, let's watch the video.
I approved through the video
how he beat the case without even
like, I was like, I could have
been his attorney and beat the case.
With weapons, especially
I'm going to say Illinois since that's
where the case was, you have to
prove possessors.
If they can't prove,
was the only person in that back seat
where that gun was found, they can't
say that was your gun.
Period. Right. You know what I'm saying?
So, ultimately, he beat the case.
And I knew this because I had a conversation
with him. Ultimately, he beat the case because they couldn't prove it.
But because they say I'd be biased
when it comes to Bezou, I wasn't doing
real time to show people I know what I'm talking about.
Like, seven-minute
video was
right there, this whole time. It's been out for years.
Right there.
And nobody took the time to really look.
Right.
That's crazy.
And that's the difference between somebody actually caring and somebody just being like,
oh, fuck it, let's do the clickbait.
Because we live in the fake news era.
Oh, yeah.
It's like more fake news than real news, especially after somebody gets killed.
We've all seen it with young dolls.
Oh, they found black youngsters footprints at the scene of the crime.
Fucking all these, like, crazy things that like, you know,
it is important that we have people who are actually trying to dig into it because we can't really rely on the mainstream media to do it
because they barely fucking exist at this point.
Also, does the mainstream media care about THF Bezou?
Probably not enough to really give them a fair shake the way that you or somebody like, you know?
See, you know, I started doing it because it's promo for me because I get paid of research.
Like everybody, like, your page ain't growing.
I ain't never said I get paid off of YouTube.
But, you know, I get bigger YouTubers that try a little bit.
Hey, Mickey, can you explain to me?
Like, what does this really?
Okay, pay my fee.
So you'll consult with them.
Yeah.
Are you academics as consultant?
nobody need to be because some people be leading him
straight.
Okay.
That's funny that you say that because there's been a couple times where I listened to
Acts like videos and I'm kind of like he has to have like a lawyer or somebody who's
consulting because I don't know why or like how Act would necessarily be able to like
when he was talking about how many years tax stone was going to get.
I was just like I don't feel like you would just know this.
I feel like you consulted with somebody to figure this out.
There's a lot of us that do it.
Really?
Yeah.
You might have a guy.
Yeah.
You know, at one point, I was wax consultant when it came to paperwork.
He'll send me something to verify.
You know, a lot of people used to think I would just pull.
But sometimes he'll send me something he already had, like check it out.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, this and that.
So, yeah, I do that.
That's why I get my bread and butter from behind the scenes.
Now, the content that I do is just for fun, really.
But my name, that's why my name is so big compared to my platform because the bigger people
shot me out.
Like, hey, shout out to make a truth for, you know,
looking out for this or because a lot of people don't understand the law and everybody don't have
an attorney on standby that they can just call with questions so they'll be like miki you know like
what what does this mean or you know what does that mean and you know pay me and i'll tell you hey
rappers reach out to you yet beforehand no yeah normally see i like i troll in a different way
i'll hear something and i'll be okay let me at this person see you know see what they say
Sadie Nash, that's how me in
Sadden Nash, you know, started talking
Basel, Fraydo-Bain,
because I just would act and I'd hear something like,
okay, I'm about to check into you. And you can tell
the ones that don't have nothing to hide
because they'll respond. I'm like, I don't care of running.
So you looked in the Sadie Nash case when
So
there was a case? Or just the news
clip, not the case, but news clip. So
I looked into
the appeal
for the person that got charged with
the murder. And it kind of outlines what's
what but as far as like the whole thing if that's really his buddy i don't know about all that now
you know but i looked into the brother situation because you know it was allegation he snitched
on his brother and i was the one who went to got the transcript showing that his brother didn't
go down for shooting nobody went down for shooting but as far as like that's as far as i did you know
a lot of people's like oh you're covering up for setting ash and i'm like because i know how to read
like how is that covering up are you confident can we trust you on everything like if you found
paperwork about somebody that you actually had
loved for, would you be willing to
expose it, or do you think that you would sacrifice
that for your relationship?
Like, if I didn't know you before
Mickey Truth,
it's fair game.
Now, but if, like, people
will ask me a lot, would I do it for
like somebody from my hometown or
whatever? Now, if I knew you, like,
what the fuck? I'm not going to be the one. That's the conflict
of interest to me. And I'd have people,
you know, I said, I ain't, you know,
taking nothing to do with it. If you uncover
cool but if I met you at making
choose this business like a lot of people
got on my ass because at one
point there were people trying to
expose Grito
and I basically told
the guy who was trying to send me paperwork about
Grito or whatever I was like listen
you could talk to this dude and I put him in touch with
1090 I was just like you can handle
this like if you want somebody to really take a fair
look at it he could take a fair look at it
and a lot of people were like that's you being a bad friend
of Grito from my perspective it was like
this is probably the best way for him to get a fair
shake.
Yeah, because otherwise it's like going to be some shady YouTuber.
Like unless somebody who has a real perspective or is somewhat trusted, I feel like, you know,
then there's nothing wrong with it.
I think 1090 something in that paperwork too.
But I chose, because I don't really do West Coast content like that because it's hard.
It's red tape to get the paperwork.
But then I found out it was a Texas case.
So I probably would have did it.
But at the time, I just looked at a lot.
That's a West Coast rapper.
Like, you know.
Yeah, like to get it.
What do you mean my red tape?
Because everyone says it's harder to get LA paperwork.
It is.
Why is it so hard?
For one, if you ain't here to go in person type thing, that's why TMZ got it on lock
because they got people they can do it see Texas, Florida, Chicago, a simple email,
done.
You know, it may come with a fee, pay the fee, but if I live here, yeah, I'll do, but
it's just too much red tape.
Unless it's a Fed case.
Now, fair case is fair game because that's one database.
and you can pull it, but it's just too much hassle.
It's funny that you learned kind of a similar thing that we've learned,
which is that people are so fascinated by Chicago.
It's like its own country within America.
It's been going on for so long.
And see, that's why I always say I'm the most hated as far as the Chicago sector.
Because so many people have been covering for so long,
they kind of believe the lies.
So I come along, like, you know, and say,
so y'all ain't been
see this? Like this paperwork been on Reddit
forever but I still request my own
I'm like, how is it still a question?
And if the only people
saying the FBI,
FBG Buda like did all this shit,
if the only people saying it are his ops,
then of course people like us are going to be
very skeptical, you know? Right, but he really
telling himself. A lot of them tell on their self, you just got
listen. See, they deflect
so well. And I hate to bring
them up because it's kind of the situation
to die down, but Fendi
boy, you know what I'm saying?
Oh shit.
I mean, it was simple to figure out that he was lying about that case being closed.
Oh, he was lying.
Oh, yeah, he was lying.
And see, that was a mistake really by me covering it because he started trolling me and
didn't realize who I was.
I'm like, oh, you want to troll.
So, yeah.
Break down the case, though, for the people who don't know what.
So he's accused of messing with a child.
A child, right?
You said a child?
Do you mean, like, really young?
Yeah, I think she was like eight.
like a little girl, right?
So when a paperwork drop,
I just reacted to the paperwork.
I didn't pull it.
I just was like,
I normally don't like to touch some type of cases.
And I was just like, what the fuck, you know?
And he tagged me like,
you don't know what you talking about type of.
Oh, that case is closed and all this and that.
So I'm like, okay.
See, what made me different than some other YouTubers,
I'll call the courthouse.
I'll talk to the people.
that's when that paralegal shit come and play
I can call and
chop it up so you didn't actually come to any conclusions about whether he was
guilty or not or no
he just felt like he was lying about the state of it
right because I was like it don't make sense
like when I think it was a DJU interview I'm like that don't even add up
that don't make sense like why would you still be on bond
if the case was closed so that's when I started looking
into it and then
the family reached out the family little girl
reached out to me
and was like, you know, they said what they said.
And I mean, I can't follow them fulfilling of your child telling you that's what happened.
So I don't know, none of that.
All I can tell you is that case is still open.
What was his relationship even to this girl?
Like, how was even around her?
His girl was the aunt.
If I remember correctly, Ben, but if I remember the girl's aunt, he hit me up to do an interview.
Like, he wanted to go live with me.
I said, all right, cool.
Let's do it.
And that's when people realize you can't deflect with me.
So he got on there.
I let him talk.
And I'm just like, you really don't know who I am.
So I'm like, you do know you just got re-indicted, right?
And he's like, huh?
Like, he didn't even know that.
I'm like, you know that case is not closed.
And I said, you know that paperwork that you put on your social media,
ain't even for the child that you're being accused of messing with.
So it's still being processed?
Right now.
Damn.
He's out.
But right now.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
And I even hit them on and said a lot of people got mad at me because like, why you put them on blast?
Like I went behind the scenes and like, yo, it's real people that understand and no paperwork.
Stop posting paperwork.
Like, that's not your thing because, like, I saw that that name is not even the correct name.
I tried to tell him he kept doing it, though.
I was like, okay.
Wow.
Yeah, because he had an interview set up with us at least once or twice and then kind of bailed.
Yeah, because he didn't get locked up for it because he kept going on this tour.
And see, that's one thing
And just public service announcement
If you're out on bond for a crime
Even if the judge tell you
You can't talk about
Don't talk about it
Because you have the family of the victims
And you know, like
They can apply pressure
And that's what happened
He got locked back up for it
So I think he's out now
But yeah
You see he ain't talked about it no more
Yeah, he ain't said
I hope that shouldn't trim
I think he is out
Yeah he is
I think he dropped the disc trunk
So you did a DJ
you interview and it still hasn't came out
but you think the reason is not coming out because
Bada. Bada threatened them.
Really? What do you tell DJU?
Hey. What was relayed back to you?
It was, hey, you got that bitch up day
on your platform.
Dda da da, da, you're going to, you know,
you're going to put that shit out. Hey, I'm a see
about you type shit. Like in the nutshell, that's not
verbatim. And then he even said my interview here
wasn't going to happen. That's what you
was telling me that. Yeah.
Butta told you that you're no jump right. Yeah, he said,
hey, I'm a new employee over at no jumper.
by the interview.
I just bought me a new car
from my advance.
I said, oh, okay.
Have you publicly posted
that you're here or whatever?
Because I feel like
maybe if we post a picture
or her here,
then the DJU one comes out
real quickly because you try
to get a jump on this one.
I don't know.
Look, I ain't want to ruffle the feathers
until I did the interview.
Right.
Because like the DJU,
I didn't even drop until
after I left Chicago
because I know people
don't like me in Chicago.
So once I left, I posted it
and it went crazy.
But yeah, they was upset about it.
And they mean the FBI butter and I guess his whoever around him.
But you think DJU is going to follow through with it and not post because of the
He said he ain't never picked the side before and, you know, but people keep asking because
it was supposed to come out before I came here.
Yeah.
Wow.
What about, did you look into the Megan the Steyin and Torrey Lanes?
I don't be honest, no.
I followed the sentence.
I said he was going to get 10 years.
Like, and I'm going to say this, okay?
Because people got on me about that too.
The reason why I say he can do whatever he wanted to try to get out in California,
you ain't had to shoot her.
If they prove you had that gun and you shot in her direction, you done anyway.
So even if Kelsey did it, you still ain't getting out unless you got evidence that
prove you never had a gun in your hand, like at all.
But other than that, California laws is for real.
Like, he's not going to get out.
No matter what evidence or less, it's to show he ain't had no gun.
Do you think he shot her?
Hell yeah, he shot him and told him Dan.
That's great.
But, yeah, that's just, you know, because alcohol and then he just gives me, like, when I be hearing him,
he do probably get angry.
And this is my, you know, how I'm looking at him.
Hell yeah, he probably got his feelings.
You got me walking away from a million, a billion-dollar, fucking
around with you out here in the streets because you drunk, you know?
No, that's funny.
He said, he definitely shot him and said, Dan's bitch, Dan, that's crazy.
What was overshund?
Oh, King AK-47.
Why I don't like each other?
Shout out of King AK-47.
We're good.
Him and Zoo was at it.
Yeah.
And I was like, man, I'm a snitch.
Now, I ain't got nothing do with the ego shit y'all got going on, but he ain't snits.
So he said, you know, I was taking off a zoo.
all that, but that's, it was ego shit.
Yeah, it was ego shit.
And he told me I wasn't a street person.
And I said, well, you ain't a court person.
So stay out my zone if you don't want, you know,
because I hate when people say stay out of the streets.
Like, I'm not all here telling y'all how to build a bando, how to, you know what I'm saying,
do drills.
I'm talking about court shit, legal shit.
So that was it.
But it was like friendly banter.
But, you know, people ran with it to make it seem like it was beef.
And I'm going to be honest, it was great click bait.
So, you know.
Wow.
What about the Y and W.
Melly trial?
Any updates?
So what do you think is going to happen?
I'm going to be honest.
But now, if anything I thought.
You've been keeping up with that, right?
Not recently.
Not as, you know, it's not going to, nothing's going to happen until the Supreme Court
make a decision on the evidence.
See, a lot of evidence got thrown out where he could walk because they don't have what they
had to first go around.
But until the Supreme Court rules on it, nothing.
it's going to happen.
I feel personally
the witness tampering
probably the stronger
conviction than it would be
for the murder at this point.
That's just how I'm looking at it.
But if the evidence comes back
then it'll be up in the air.
But you know, I'd have had
victims family mad at me
about that case too.
Oh, or who?
The dad of one of the victims.
He shoot his shot at me
a couple times on his page.
Portland?
No.
Which one?
The U.S.
The U.S.
the other one. Juvie's dad. You know. Because again, like I said, it's just, unfortunately,
I mean, I'm not saying this right. I do the free so-and-so's, free dad, free that. He ain't like
it, just like the mama duck situation. He, you know, some shots at me. And then I
expose his paperwork for his alleged child molestation. Jesus Christ, everybody got that, huh?
And then all I said was the same way you beat that off a
technicality. He beat
raping his
he'd be molesting, you know, his daughter
because they search his phone
illegally. That's a technicality.
That's not saying you ain't do it.
They saw the pictures in your phone that's in the
paperwork. Yeah. And I
just said, Melly going to be his case the
same way you beat yours off of technicality
because somebody ain't did what they were supposed to do.
Jesus Christ. That's crazy.
That's why they don't like me. Is 803
the area of code where you're from?
Yes. Columbia, South Carolina. I had to
make sure I rip on no jumper for sure.
We got to get you with Charlemagne.
For sure.
Because what city is he from?
Some tiny-ass city.
Monks Corner?
Yeah.
That is country.
I used to go down there to do events in his hometown.
He had like every year, like back to school thing.
Back when my daughter was younger, she used to sell like hair and stuff.
So I was to go down there.
But yeah, definitely.
Damn, we got to get you with Charlottoman.
That would be super interesting.
I wonder if he's tapped in.
He's pretty main.
stream. It might take him a little while to find out.
Definitely, because I don't think he's happening in with the city like that, the state
like that.
No more.
They, you know, he used to do music and stuff.
Right.
And a lot of the artists there probably would have some bad stories to say about them.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know nothing about that really, but other than a lot of them.
Let's hope no aspiring YouTubers out there see that and are like, oh, well, there's my next video.
They already got that out there because, you know, he was accused of the unthinkable to.
Yeah.
unthinkable.
It's like everyone's going to choose it.
But that shit is so old, but it still
rears its head once in a while.
Yeah. And that's all it's like when people
and it depends who brings it up
to be honest. Like,
hey, I can't
remember. It was a case I did
Boston Ritchie.
Because you know I actually beat 1090
to the Boston Ritchie case.
Right? But of course, it
got no shine
when 1090 did it. So it's just
depends on who bring it up.
See, me, if I hear something,
I kind of see, like, who's talking about it?
I look on y'all page.
I look on y'all mine. I ain't really talk about it.
I'm leaving alone. Because I'll hit rappers up,
like, hey, you know somebody,
something is some stuff on you. And I'm like,
but you ain't in my algorithm, so I'm going to leave it alone
now. But if you become
in the algorithm, it's going to come
out. And that's why the soldier boy paperwork.
It was old, but
he got into, it was something about it.
It was the perfect time to drop his statement
that he really was lying about how to shoot into the place.
But he actually shot him, but not a...
Which the Hone and the Raida won the other day?
Yeah.
The legendary one.
You know, I was sitting on that for a minute.
It just, you know, when he got it,
I can't remember who he was beefing with.
And I saw.
Well, okay, because that's a crazy one because you have Sozer Boy doing a whole
Vlaude interview about it.
Then you have the guys that he shot doing a whole interview about it on Vlad.
And that's actually why Souser Boy doesn't fuck with Vlad is because Vlad did that interview.
but then you also have the truth,
which I would assume
is probably somewhere in between.
Like, he definitely caught him one,
but it wasn't the way he said it.
Because he made it sound like he just like cold blood
murdered these dudes.
That's why it was so funny.
And I wanted him to say my name so bad
when he went on the rant,
but he just came at y'all.
I like, goddamn.
That was my come up.
He said our name and rant so many times
that I felt like it doesn't even do anything anymore.
That was going to come up.
But yeah, that's why I'd be telling people like,
hey, I'd be, you know, it'd be definitely content.
I'm doing this to grow.
But at the same time, I'm not about to go back and forth with, I mean, if your platform's smaller in the minds, the hell I'm going, make all the videos you want.
And I learned that from 1090, you know, like, let them do whatever.
So what's next from Mickey Truth?
Like, what do you want to get out of all of this?
I ultimately want to be, like, an actual interviewer.
Like, I want to do that.
I started doing that before, but it just wasn't there yet.
So that's why I don't even pull paperwork no more.
I retired December 31st, 2020.
you know, it's because not everybody
doing it.
So I just really sit back, you know,
and I fact check now.
That's really what my content videos be.
I react to stuff, you know.
I point out the holes,
like the whole thing with Flacco and his brick baby
and on Quando, right?
I knew it was Cal, like as far as the storyline,
it was good content because I actually went to
to Cuando Rondo's bell hearing.
I heard wiretaps.
Oh, really?
So I know they ain't looking at dirt for that.
So, you know what I'm saying?
So it's just, that's just what I'm on.
I'm attending more trials, more hearings, because you get more details when you actually sit there.
That quando shit is crazy because until I heard you describing some of the stuff that they talked about on that phone call, that was always one that I just didn't even mention it to brick because I was just kind of like, I don't really want to know and it doesn't look that.
Like I'm watching the travel or I shit about it.
I'm like, bro, this is kind of convincing.
I'm not, I'm just going to not mention it.
Yeah.
I'll be honest because like my earborder.
because, like, my ending of every video is Britt Baby when I first started on no jumpers
saying I was going to be big when the Rollo stuff first episode.
So that's my ending to every video.
So, boy, they was like, hey, did you see what Flacko say my Brit Baby?
And I was like, it's good content.
And if you didn't know, because I learned from the news down there in Savannah.
Because I learned from people all the time.
They was like, you don't give them everything.
He's just giving them bits and pieces.
So a lot of, like, my notes from there, I ain't released.
so but when it comes out
like y'all know that's just
content right so from what you heard
what do you think happened
it's definitely drug and game related
that is
pretty close to what we heard yeah
yeah and that's that
but not the gang
people might not the game
definitely not the game
okay definitely the game that
will reach over somebody to shoot somebody they want
for sure yeah yeah no
so where you in whack at right now you guys
I don't know man
sight but me and whack is good you know wet
when it comes time to turn up you know
you may think we had odds but we good he hit me up every now
and I just be busy and sometimes he'd be like oh you're too busy for me
you know but it's just I don't be in the paperwork no more
like yeah I be traveling more now so you're not a part of the exposers
no no no no no and I actually kind of felt some type of way
that he tried to like
um give 10 now
my credit as far as like my platform.
I'm like, hold up.
For one, I don't even know
nothing about no exposures for two.
How the hell did my platform
turned it to 1090?
Like, 1090 never did none of my content.
Like, I give him credit for like giving
me some advice. Like, even talking to
like rappers, how
like, you know, discretion is key.
You know what I'm saying? Like, stuff like that. Yeah, definitely.
But no, my content, I always been mine.
I've been the one to go get it.
You know, any paperwork he has
gave to me, I'll say, like, yeah, I got this
1090 but the old three greed I never even ran so but that was the only thing and we talked about
it but yeah you know when it comes to a clubhouse he gonna say you know a lot of them don't
like Mickey truth you know so they bring him something he gonna react I know how I go because hell
I feel like if because I was really surprised when I heard 1090 say that he was planning on like
kind of taking a step away from exposing people but when you really think about it a
I believe that it's like a super competitive landscape because I've definitely like talked to him about
situations and like videos he might be making and realize that to him it can be kind of stressful
because it's like if he finds out about something the pressure's on to basically like make the video
about it but then meanwhile he's sort of like competing against all these other YouTubers who
might make the video first and then also it just kind of turns your life into like mega turmoil
especially if you're somebody like 1090 who's like street affiliated realistically
he got security concerns.
He moves around a certain kind of way.
And every single time he reports on somebody,
it's just making more and more enemies.
I don't really assume that he's making the kind of enemies
that would actually be likely to do something to him,
but it's definitely possible, you know?
Look, I'm going to tell you, out of everybody,
me and 1090 covered together,
like we both covered it.
There's only one rapper I don't even get into it
because he probably be the one the dude crash out
to cover his secret.
and he's viral right now with wet
when that's too tall
okay
that's the one that you feel like
could take revenge against a media person
oh hell yeah
to keep that secret
look let me tell you
I tell people all the time
hey
I ain't in a text bracket
with these guys
like I am not in wet text
bracket
and I ain't made no million light
Jake off of this shit
I'm gonna go to a certain degree
yeah it don't matter to me that
if somebody told, I let them have that.
But yeah, he...
The question is, did Mickey Truth's father instruct her to keep a pole?
No.
No.
No.
But the law girls down south, like...
A lot of girls carry guns these days.
No, no, no, no, no.
My dad, nah, that's not where I got it from.
My husband actually put me onto guns.
We used to go hunting.
So, oh, I definitely believe in the right to bear arms for shit.
shit show. And that was my response to
when he threatened me.
I'm like, bro.
Good luck.
Welcome to the South. Any time you want.
NBG butter.
F.I.
Wait, husband. How long
you've been married? 14 years.
14 years. Holy shit. What kind of guy?
Give us a rough estimate.
A long body citizen.
He doesn't work in
law enforcement? No. Hell no.
He don't even agree with this
shit here. He doesn't like you coming on
here or just making the videos in general.
like talking like, you know,
he don't get it about the police shit.
He called it police shit.
Like, even when he hear me, like,
interacting with other YouTube.
Like, y'all just be sitting there
talking about police shit.
Like, he don't be into that.
He just be like, that shit weird.
So he don't get it.
And like, now he never thought
a little hobby that he's a fuss about
turn into this.
He's like, you're going where?
I'm going to go on a cabal.
He was with him for 12 years.
He was with you for 12 years.
years before all this shit kind of started happening.
And actually, we separated right before I started Mickey Truth.
That's really why I started Mickey Truth to have something to do.
And then, like, as I was coming up, we tried to work things out.
And then now he's like, the fuck?
He'd be like, uh-uh.
He don't really understand.
But then, like I said, I came out here.
He's just like, I can't believe you in Cali talking poli shit.
So, yeah, shout out to Mr. Truth.
So for everybody that don't know where to find you at, where can they find you at to be tapped in with Mickey Truth?
Okay, on YouTube, Mickey Truth, Instagram, TikTok, all that, Mickey Truth, 22.
Hey, and, hey, I'm your favorite blogger, favorite resource.
Remember that.
Remember that.
It's got a ring to it.
I've been saying that for a lot.
Okay, so let me just ask you this.
Do you see any, like, like, as a person who's really observing this whole hip-hop-adjacent YouTube landscape,
What are the opportunities?
Like, what do we need more people?
What kind of content do we need more?
Like, stuff that you think people should focus on.
Just truth.
Truth.
Like, I get the clip back.
And you can play wordplay for show without lying.
It's just the lies.
Like, because that really impacts.
Like, people think, oh, you pulling people paperwork,
you can impact their lives.
Right.
You lying on somebody can impact their life.
Like on some real stuff.
You're saying they saying,
oh, I can't stand the ones that's doing fake paperwork.
That's a no-no.
You can really get somebody messed up on that.
So just focus on the truth and they'll come to you.
Like, for real, you don't have to lie.
And another thing, it's okay to do content.
I'm with the place because it'd be interesting to me sometimes.
It's like watching a soap opera or watching your favorite TV show.
But people be like buying into it like his real life.
Like they be, I was like, damn, they'd be ready to crash out, you know, because I was
listening to Flaco live last night.
And they was like, on him just, I'm like, yo, it's entertainment.
That's what we're here for.
But that's a funny thing with gangsters is that they love a flaco that they can act tough to
so they don't have to act tough to all their gang members, right?
Trust me, I know, because they act tough to me.
They try to do it to me too.
When I call them, I'll be like y'all letting y'all pink show.
That's my way of, you know, calling them that.
Like, it's crazy.
Like, y'all talking street stuff to somebody who ain't claiming to be street.
Right.
Like, I don't care what the politics is in the streets.
I ain't out there.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, what we're talking about?
I want to be able to legally lay your ass out and go home.
I know I can't do no time.
So I ain't trying to do nothing to get me.
Like, I'm not trying to be street.
I'm not trying to be none of that.
They be pushing their street mentality on people that ain't trying to be street.
Like, we're blogging.
We're YouTube and we're whatever.
If you don't want to hear the conversation, get your ass off of social media,
go be in the streets.
Go to the bando or whatever y'all do out there.
Like, the hell you're on the internet for.
What you on YouTube for?
No.
All right.
Definitely.
So, okay, anything the people should know about,
anything you got coming up that you want to check in on?
Hey, I'm wherever y'all want me to be.
Y'all know, submit y'all tips in my tip line is still,
you know, book Mickey Trude at gmail.com.
Yeah, people send me tips.
That's how I get my content.
Definitely.
So, yeah.
I appreciate y'all.
I'm looking forward to see we're going to get fine with the 2015 proffer
that could have could have.
Oh, it's on luck.
got my people's on it. We're going to find it.
Because somebody released a video
that said
it'll lose the FBI butter
told on Lil B about the murder.
So I'm waiting for that paperwork.
Hey, we're going to piece it together.
Wow. It's a reason why
STL cut them off in 2015. And that would say
that trial. Really? Yeah.
Wow. Butter.
Hey, that's why he
know who everybody got killed.
by right there.
Wow.
And you know what proffers,
you tell on everything you know.
You don't just tell on your case.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
If you tell them the half truth,
then they're allowed to charge you, right?
Yeah.
And to be honest,
I don't know the details of his proffer.
That's why I want to read it,
because, like,
how is he still walking around with immunity?
If you lied on your original proffer,
that should be gnarled in void.
And if that is a case,
like I said, he screwed the O Block Rico himself,
though,
to be honest at the end of the day.
And that's why I was like, how can anybody be mad at anybody but him?
Because, like, you actually know these people.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, that was your humble.
You cried on the stand when they was talking about Doug.
But then you get on these interviews and say you lied on purpose.
And he actually did get called him in his lie, I understand, about the drug use.
So it's not like he's just saying he lied.
Nah, he actually got caught him in his life.
They called him out for being on drugs?
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, he talks about it.
that in interviews all the time.
Yeah.
And then,
because like one of the murders,
I think it was the Dale murder.
He lied about he was high that day.
You know what I'm saying?
And then,
you know what's interesting though?
What I am thinking about,
K.I.
Mom did an interview in 2014.
The only interview I found.
Really?
And she said she worked with the gang unit,
like with the police in 2011.
That was interesting to me.
I hear she's supposed to have another interview
coming, but just hearing her say that
how can her daughter
be this assassin when she worked
with the police from
2011 and 2014?
Like, they had her number.
Yeah. So it seemed weird
that the FBI
allowed that to go into a case
if it's not true.
Yeah, I recently just talked to KI. Mom,
so I might be on the way.
Yeah. That would be a good interview.
Yeah. Because that one hour, that's the
only interview she ever gave. That one hour
interview. So I, especially now
with all this other stuff happening, I really want to know
because just like the lie that but the same, like him and Kaye, I had the same,
he said that on the stand, had the same daddy. That's a lie.
Interesting. Yeah. Okay, well,
a lot of interesting stuff coming up. Don't mess with Mickey Truth. That's the main
message that I got from this interview. Don't mess with her.
She will dig up your fucking skeleton. For sure. I troll different.
I like that. For the show. Thank you to Remo for co-hosting.
Appreciate you. Everybody tap in with me.
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