No Jumper - Mike Majlak on Dillon Danis & Logan Paul, Lana Rhoades, His New Girlfriend & More

Episode Date: October 11, 2023

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Oh, that's good. That's why we have security pretty much is to protect us from wild Fusi. Fuzi. Mans is locked up. So that's kind of how you're feeling right now. You're just living in constant fear of Fusi. You're showing up and controlling any situation that you're in. Dude, that man, we're not doing any intros or any of that.

We're just running. Please, okay? I hate that. It makes me feel super weird. I don't feel like I deserve an intro. I don't know. Fuzi just had one of the craziest, like, runs. I've ever seen in the history of the internet.

And he does this from time of time. Like he, he has a brain. He was the last one. Exactly. He goes kind of quiet. And then he comes back having a manic episode and everybody tunes in. All of a sudden he's getting 50,000 live viewers. Well, he's incredibly watchable, right?

He's incredibly, he's so easy to watch. But this one specifically was nuts. I mean, he was, he was running, run in the space. Like, like, at the top of the streaming numbers. And I remember we had him on Jeff FM. And I asked him, I was like, yo, how long do you anticipate doing this for? He's like, oh, I'm going to be running 24-7 content until the end of the year. And I was like, don't burn out.

I was like, I'm going to be honest. I give it one week. Right. And it was about a week. Right. And then just kind of started to, you know, become kind of strange. This is the problem that we all deal with as creators is that if you are at the place in your life where you're happy and secure and your life is steady and safe and.

comfortable, you might have a great life. But for the people at home, it's much less interesting. For sure. Whereas if you're going through turmoil, if you're going through drama with your girl, if you're having a manic, psychotic episode, etc., you can be very, very interesting to watch. And that's why the streamers who seem like they're doing the best these days, if you talk about somebody like, I show speed, he's kind of like always on the verge of having a meltdown. Fusi, you were like kind of always just waiting to see what might happen.

A lot of times the people you see with the craziest streaming numbers are those people where you feel like it could just kind of take off at any given moment. Well, listen, dirty laundry pays the bills. It has for a long time. People want to see Britney Spears shave her head. They want to see, you know what I'm saying? They want to see Paris Hilton have a wardrobe malfunction. You know what I'm saying?

They want to see the crazy happen. And that's why a lot of that stuff nowadays is manipulated and manufactured. You look at the Kardashians, for example, right? All this is created drama, created beast. because they know that's what pays the bills. So the challenge is as a creator, a big creator, which I don't claim to be a super macro like these guys, is walking that line between drawing eyeballs to continue to do brand deals or move units or whatever and maintaining mental sanity.

Because bro, like for me, for example, like when I was dating Lana and when shit was like going crazy when we were still, you know, together with Logan and everything was like this whole camp. There was always drama, constant drama 24-7. And I felt like I still feel that drama just eats at you. No matter how Teflon you claim to be, no matter how much you claim to be like unaffected, everybody's affected, whether it's consciously or subconsciously by all this bullshit. The internet has become, especially currently, and it continues to day by day, you know,

digress into this environment. of just honestly pure hatred. There's just, you sign on and as a creator or a normal human what you have to see on the internet every day, it's, it's, it's, people say change your algorithm. No, you go on Twitter, this is, this is everywhere.

It's school fights, it's shootings, it's, you know, this person's getting arrested. This is happening. And so like, you're constantly trying to like maintain and walk the line between living in that nasty, nasty world and and and preserving yourself and maintaining some semblance of sanity and that's what I was hoping foozy would kind of realize as he as he went through this last you know um run was yo this 24-7 thing is not going to work I've never really seen IRL streaming work out for anybody

in the long run ice beside and destroyed his life foosie seems like it destroyed his life I can think of a lot of other like tiny examples but when you're allowed allowing yourself to be, you know, participating in life with all these people that might just show up. Now, you look at somebody like Aidan Ross and Sneko and what they're doing where they have security and maybe they rent out a house for their streams, a large percentage of the time. I think that maybe makes sense. But with Fusi melting down off the IRL streaming thing, like a lot of the things that f*** him up, like people like calling him or calling the cops and swatting him and all this kind of stuff.

Like these are the things that come with doing the IRL streaming lifestyle. Whereas this in comparison right now, very little chance of chaos. Like everything is very, very controlled in comparison. Yeah. And this is a chaotic podcast. But we go out of our way to try to make that not the case. Well, it's one of the reasons why I stop streaming. I mean, I had a relatively successful Twitch channel.

I mean, I was, you know, probably six to 15,000 concurrent depending on what I was doing on any given day. And obviously, like, you know, I'm never going to lie and try to, you know, false. the truthhood that, you know, I'm a collaborator. I have been. And I think, I think, you know, my ability to build rapport, to finesse, to scratch backs and have backs scratch in return has been a big part of my career. And I think, I think, you know, streaming is good for that. You can do collabs in real time.

You can hit people up. But for whatever reason, I just, it felt like streaming. brought along with it a certain number of like uncontrollable pieces. Like you said that anything can happen factor. When I do vlog still, I watch a bunch of them last night.

Great content. Thank you, bro. Thank you. But you basically like film all week. You're doing your little David Doberrck thing, but you're going for like 15 minutes instead of four minutes and 20 seconds, right? I like to consider myself,

of like the last of the vloggers. Vlogging is dead. It's actually kind of sad, to be honest with you, because it was really the, it really was the format that built all of it. Like all of that, you know, early on, Casey and Roman and all these guys who, you know, were churning out these daily vlogs.

Yeah, mine's a little bit different. I may shoot, I may shoot one vlog in three countries. You know what I'm saying? And I might shoot for, I might shoot for eight days between ads, signings, you know, like, all the different parts of the format. And then there's hours of footage that gets whittled down, edited, brand deals, you know, the strategy that goes into all the creative to create this final piece. That's a weekly vlog. And now, when I start to talk to people about burnout on YouTube and my personal mental health, which I'm sure you guys know has kind of always been. a little up and down as well.

Maybe not to the extent of Fuzis, at least visually, but, you know, it's something that I continue to struggle with. I don't put out daily content, but these things, it might as well be. You know what I'm saying? Because I shoot so much that goes into one of these episodes to create these, like, really enthralling, you know, longer format pieces.

Because you could be putting out, like, one not great quality vlog per day, like the way that everybody used to do. A hundred, bro, bro. See, that's the thing. My life is just. genuinely exciting every single day, which I've also found is a, is a gift and a curse. Like I never, I don't have those days where I get to sit down and, and turn off. You know what I'm saying?

Like I always have shit going on. So I easily could wake up, create content, put it out every single day, day, day, day, day, day, day. Which is kind of like what streaming is, but it just presented so many obstacles to me like you said where it's just like, I don't know what the fuck's going to happen. I don't know. Sometimes I don't even know what the fuck's going to come out of my mouth. And I don't know if I, in today's society, I don't know how I feel about that. Right.

And if you're even a little bit open, that's like a big part of the appeal to the people. It's like, oh, I'm going to get to hear him say the F slur. If I watch this long enough, he's going to slip up and say something mean to his girlfriend and they're going to get in a fight. And that's like. Which used to happen. Yeah, which happens to like any streamer at a certain point, their actual real life is going to start to intersect with what they're doing on there.

Yeah. And it's just, and it's just, I don't know. I don't really, I don't really fuck with. the, like, let's get macro for a second here, like, really, like, conversationally. I don't really fuck with, like, the new direction of things and the way things are, like, going, right? And this is going to. Elaborate on that.

Yeah. Yeah. Hello, no jumper. Audience. How's everybody doing? This is important. We're not going to ask you about the Island Boys making out. We're going to talk about the future of content.

No, I want to, no, I want to talk about all that shit. Because I want you guys to have a good time out there. I miss you guys. It's been a while since I did this show. And, and, bro, you've been. through some shit. Tap in with the hip hop community. What are you talking about?

I ain't been through some shit. Bro, you've been through some shit. Like, this past year has been crazy. And I've been watching all of it. Oh, you're an observer. And obviously, like, I have my feelings on all of it as someone who, like, waited, dip the toes, but didn't quite, like, fully penetrate the community. Well, no, I did that, but, like, not, like, outward facing.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I have my line of shit. And obviously, like, I fucked around with, like, a bunch of... But that's actually. we need to talk about that at one point that I consider you a coward and a traitor because you came right up to the limit of loving a sex worker

but she was an ex-sex worker so it didn't really count and then you guys don't work out and now you're just dating all these beautiful models it's like no I need to see you with someone who has been gang bang before or else I consider you a fake but continue

you can table that for a second so the reason the reason why I don't fuck with all this new shit is because like I just I feel like we're at this like end times. It almost feels like so dark for content right now. Like this new, this new red pill community is so fucking corny to me. Like, like, really, like, it's, it's, it's gized under this desire

to better young men and steer them away from the evils of this world, which, which, which I am, I'm okay with that. Do, do I think that porn, consuming porn, is necessarily a healthy activity. I don't, to be completely honest with you. I really don't. I think that it does set some precedents and some poor behavioral qualities in men and maybe things that are unable to be achieved

by the average person and creates this strange kind of relationship which I get all that. Right. But as someone who grew up on Stern, right? And Hugh Hefner and like all of these people, I came up with the assumption that it, that being with hot girls in reality and content, whatever was a cool thing. Yeah.

These motherfuckers now are trying to make it a not cool thing. Right? Like, like, like, like, like, like. The guys who don't get pussy are trying to rewrite the rules. Thank you. That's, that's what I'm trying to say. And that shit really stresses me out because as someone who really does get pussy, like actually does, bro. it really upsets me because now the nerds,

similarly to with hip hop, we'll bring this back to hip hop for a sec, right? Similarly to with hip hop where the addicts became the cool guys. At first it was the dealers, right? At first it was Jay, it was biggie, it was pock, the people that were out hustling, telling stories about what it was like to move weight. Then the drug addicts became the fucking leaders of the space.

You know what I'm saying? and you saw this strange, like, transition from one thing to the other. And by the way, like, who knows what those effects were on the sound? I mean, we're going to talk about it later, but, like, obviously, I'm not fucking with hip-hop in its current space. Even close. Maybe I'm an old head. Maybe I'm, I don't know.

Like, I don't know what the reasoning is, right? Things have changed, for sure. Things have changed a lot. But, like, when you look at this content flip now, too, it's like, now the cornyer you are, the bigger a nerd you are, the hotter you're getting in the current space. Like keep in mind I see all of these people Outside in the real world

Because that's the real thing that we all got to keep in mind here There's content and then there's real fucking life bro Those are dramatically different things Unfortunately there's been such a bleed through Between the two that every viewer out there Every person out there thinks the two coincide or have some sort of match You know are symbiotic in some way But I see these people out and they're not

They're not cool people, bro They're not cool people and they've become so elevated online Because of this new This new like strange environment But I posted a picture the other day Of me and my new chick I'm newly in a relationship Who is offensively hot?

Who is offensively hot? She's 25 Oh my God, it's just it's just all. She's fucked up. She's like way too hard. Yeah. Where the fuck Did you find her?

In Miami. You had a club or? So, so yeah, that's kind of the fucked up thing because she, she has a past of like clubbing. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you know, she's, everybody has a fucking pass. And that's like, I want to get into that too. And the new red, red pill space,

you can't. You're not allowed, like, yeah, yeah. Don't even get me fucking start. Any girl has had sex with anyone before you is now useless.

That's another like new rule that the red pill space is trying to implement the non-pussy getters are now telling you that If your girl ever fucked a dude before you, then she is no good. Even one. Even one. Even one.

But never mind if she gets to five or ten bodies, then she's really excluded, never going anywhere near her. But do you see what I'm saying? Like all of these dudes who, by the way, like. Your home, you lot of them. Who? Aidan Raw. Yeah, let me tell you this.

Aidan Russell. Exactly. Eden Ros. Let me say some shit. I love Aiden. And I really mean that. Like, it's not like some, like, some, like, fake love. like bullshit. I love it and that's like my little brother. And he's actually like he comes out,

he hangs, he goes out, he can work rooms, he can be on the jet with people talking about business. He's cool. He knows his, he knows his shit. Like he's he's cool in real life. But like, but like, yes, dude, a lot of it is just a lot of it is just very fraudulent. You know what I'm saying? And like, and like, so anyway, so I'm with this, I'm with this girl. We just started dating. And I posted a picture of her the other day on Twitter. So it's only been official for a few weeks or something? Not a couple months. Okay.

But publicly you've been careful about how much you put out there? I think I've like tried to like keep it off the radar a little bit. Because you having a girlfriend is like such a meme at this point that you don't really like want to like put her through the whirlwind hail storm of being your girlfriend. immediately. You want to slowly let it trickle into her life. Yeah, kind of. And also she was, oh, this is like crazy to even talk about.

Because a lot of this, here's another thing that I'll say. A lot of, this is for me, one of the biggest things with social media and with creator content is that from an audience perspective, they want everything simplified

to its, to its like easily, most easily explained, you know, core idea. But the problem there is it doesn't allow for the fact of the matter, which is that life and every situation in it is complicated. Nothing is fucking super duper binary black and white, A and B where shit's like so easily explained. And because of the age of consumption of a lot of this red pill content, which is these are children.

These are children. They're, you know, 12 to 16 to 17 years old. They don't understand the complexities of this life. You guys know this as well as I do. Trying to define someone by any individual characteristic is so futile. It doesn't, it doesn't, this isn't a one-size-fits-all situation. So, so anyways, going back, I meet this girl in Miami. she had stepped out for a night.

I meet her, I'm like, you know, that girl's, like you said, like, ridiculous. Like you could actually become a serial killer and like take out a couple of families if it meant that you would get to like sniff her ass, right? But like, but like, no, no, it's fair. It's exactly, yes. And that's what I did.

Exactly. Yes. So I meet her, we like hit it off and like, you know, I know like contrary to the audience assumption that like the line of relationship was a fluke. Like I do this shit. You know what I'm saying?

Like I seen something. I was like, dude, this is a dope chick. I want to get to know her. And that's, that's it. You know what I'm saying? And I'm proud of you because when I met you, you were just trying to fuck random porn stars

that Lennel was friends with and shit. And I was like, oh, okay, this guy Mike, you know, he's doing his thing. But I've seen you kind of like elevate through the game. Well, it flipped into a point where then they were trying to fuck me. And then I was actively not trying to fuck them. Right. And it like continued to kind of evolve to a point

where it's at now where I'm like, okay, like, I kind of like this idea of, and I will say this too about the red pill thing. It does have some real beneficial qualities. Because some of the stuff that these guys say, like I want to, and I know I'm jumping all over the place, sorry to the audience, I'm very, I'm very ADHD, and I'm a bit hyper today.

I've been, I don't know, I got a lot of my mind. But some of the shit that these red pill guys say, actually does have merit to it. And that's what's a bit upsetting about it is it's like, like I was Tate, for example, a lot of these guys are just trickle down Tates. You know, TDTs, we'll call them, right? Like, like.

Because he's not saying a lot of the more aggressive shit that he was saying a couple years ago. Correct. You know? Correct. He kind of like, he kind of like, as I've been saying on podcast lately, kind of was humbled by his experience a little bit.

Like, yo, I can still do this shit, but let me just. not do all that extra shit because I don't need to be. You're thrown in jail. You lose all your social media. Your name gets dragged through the mud. Every single corporation in the media is writing articles about you and making hit pieces about

you. Right. Which is why it was kind of surprising to see somebody like Aidan Ross who realistically a couple of years ago, the world was his oyster and he could kind of like do whatever with his superpowers, his new level of fame. And he kind of like chose to go in this Tate-esque direction. For a

a little bit. Which was kind, but even now, it's like he, he leans into the very offensive style of content, which I like personally, but if I were to be the one living his life, I would have suggested, like, maybe you don't want to like push the limit like this, this hard because it closed doors for you. Well, for him, certainly. I mean, this was a conversation that we were having all the time with Aiden, back when I was living with him because we had that house together.

And I remember at the time, like, this was just post like Brony and like, you. you know, like when he was just, he was, he was really starting to swim with like some big dogs like, like, and by the way, like, we were having like conversations with Brady and, and he was getting on with LeBron. And I was like, bro, this dude, honestly, he's such a relatable, funny,

quirky kind of kid that everybody kind of like fucks with if you leave all the other dumb shit to the side. Yo, he could become the voice for the youth of like the NBA. like really, really go after that sports, you know, demographic and really tackle that entire, you know, Gen Z aspect of drawing new eyes to these, to sports and to all of these things. Like, he really, he is as, as a rudimentary of a human as people think he is, he's funny. He's relatable.

And he's got a little bit of charisma and charm to him, right? He's a funny kid. but he went in the other direction. And I think at least short term monetarily, it's paying off for him. I mean, obviously by way of what he's been able to do, a kick and with stake and some of the stuff he's been able to do. He's making it work regardless.

Like the streaming space and the content space has so many opportunities available right now that you can go in the most offensive direction possible and still be able to make some shit happen if you are one of the most viewed streamers on the planet. And that's what we're seeing, right? And that's like the question of like where this all pans out, right? Because it really has started to get into a conversation around free speech, right?

Which is outside of our bubble kind of a massive conversation. Like, like, you know, should this thing that we call society and content media just be wide open, open throttle type shit? You know what I'm saying? And I was thinking about it in the way over here. It's like the left is crazy. Like real, real fucking crazy, bro. To the point where so many young people don't really want to associate themselves with the left because then they think that that means that they need to be in favor of, you know, children transitioning and all the things that the furthest left people advocate for.

Correct. And then I like to say now the right is angry. Okay. And so, and so like for a person like me or you who, who I think a lot of them, are some of our values are aligned, at least in the way that we look at some things. I would say largely probably. You know what I'm saying?

Like, like, they always try to press me on this gender shit. How many genders are? As a sneak-up pressing you about that. And usually when it's in the midst of a debate about a separate topic, you know? They'll just throw it out there, smoke bomb, and then they run in the other direction.

Gotcha, you can't answer it. It's not that I can't answer it. It's just, it's just, truthfully, deep within my soul, I don't study it. I know you got some people that say there's genders, then there's sex and there are two different things, and the Bible says this and the Quran says, but I don't know about all that stuff.

And when I say to someone, I don't care, they think it's a cop out, but I think deeply from a liberal standpoint, this is one of my liberal values, or at least libertarian values, I genuinely don't, Give a fuck. I don't care. I don't even one iota of me wakes up every day and says like,

huh, shouldn't be fucking having more than two genders. I mean, how many trans people have you ever even had a conversation within your life? I don't know. Well, that's an issue I will bring up. I don't know.

Maybe a handful. You know, maybe 10, like if I really were to scrape the inside of my brain and if you were to include like a two minute conversation at a party or something. So how much time are you willing to give those 10 people? Do you feel me? So like when they ask me the question,

I'm like, okay, I can either answer this question like half-heartedly, like I know my answer, but I just really don't give a fuck. Now, to your point, kids should not be learning about this shit. The right has a reason to be angry about that. Kids should not be learning about anything related to fucking sex pre-14, whatever it is years old when adults start to learn about becoming sexually active. And on that same note, I've said multiple times.

sometimes maybe another thing I don't know a lot about, but the idea that any kid should be making permanent decisions about their fucking gender to me is ridiculous. But the left can't concede that. I understand. Because if they concede any ground, then they're already like giving up ground to the right. And that's the problem. They refuse to take part. Both sides are unwilling to waiver on their on their beliefs.

And so, and so you've got this wild, you know, left. you've got the angry right, which by the way, I consider now to be the, I consider the right to be the woke side now. So bringing me all the way back full circle to what just started this conversation. My wonderful girlfriend, who by the way is so much more than just being pretty, she's very a magical, awesome person. I don't know her personality, so I'm forced to judge her based on her looks, but I'm sure she's amazing. She's very cool. She's very cool, very mature, very whatever, right? So I post this picture of her on Twitter

Because it was just a it was just a cool picture I just like posted it right And I didn't realize that like Her fucking dress was like In that light a little bit see through Bro You would think these kids have never seen A shadow of a nipple be

They're all screenshot in it Haram Haram Haram Motherfucker you're Christian You grew up in fucking Connecticut it, bro. Haram is not a word. It's a part of a belief that you don't fucking

subscribe to. That's what I'm trying to say. Everything is so fucking trash and ruined, bro, right? So now I'm like, oh, fuck, dude. Now you got the people that aren't even pseudo or fraudulently red pill. You got the red pill

dick riders. So Dylan Dennis goes. and retweets the picture, right? With a picture of my girl at a club with two bottles of champagne next to a dude. Like it was some fucking grand masterpiece like presented to the world, I have found the picture that's gonna,

that's gonna like debate his happiness. Right, yeah. Motherfucker, I am immune. Have you not seen my ex? Right. Have you not seen you think you're going to post a picture of my girl in a club with a dude fully dressed with two bottles and I'm going to have a feeling about it Right My ex was doing gang bangs

Comped compilation per your last Situation and I was chilling with the same guy that Lennisholed with Exactly With Jay Love Jay Luzi I got more confident people know No no right Right so like so like what picture do you intend on posting that where I'm going to be like

right okay so anyways but but but even off of that fact for a second he posted this photo and and these these children many of them red pill influenced you know kind of turned on by this new uh prerequisite of virginity for women or just not don't go to the club but don't stand next to a dude for a photo no they see that photo and and it turns into this like like a snowball effect of oh got him yeah got him you're gonna wipe that up not to mention her nipple the shadow of her nipples and I'm sitting there and I'm like why do I post because that's the question you start asking once you get to a point and this is the same shit as Logan now let's get into it right

is like he starts to ask himself that question like why do I even post I'm I'm a fucking millionaire dog about to be a billionaire right who runs this shit why am i going to put anything out there to be criticized to be ripped open and then more importantly to be bought into by a crew of children right all right my question is why do you think aiden chose to go the route that he's been going could you say that he could have been the short term gains in terms of views and popularity that probably in some ways compromised his long-term ability to monetize, which at the end of the day, if that's being you, then that's one thing. But I don't think that that's always the case.

But just to stay on what you were saying, yeah, it's a fucking weird world that we live in. But then you understand the way that so many celebrities, like look at the Twitter accounts for all of the most famous people in the world. And on average, they probably never tweet or tweet every six months. It's the rock tweeting out a link to his movie or whatever. Right. But the average extremely famous person chooses to not use these platforms to show their actual life. And then you start to understand, like you and I are both people who throughout our lives

have basically used our real lives to create content, whether it's who we're dating or who were hanging out with, et cetera. And you start to see how that just doesn't really seem as appealing once, you know, people really start to take aim at you. Now, I'm a person who's kind of just accepted that this is just the world that I live in. Of course, I'm kind of like courting hate and like the hate is part of what's making my business bigger. But not everybody wants to necessarily take that on. And if you're not monetizing your existence, then why even.

And especially with somebody like Logan, I don't know exactly like what her life was like, Nina before all this shit. But there's got to be part of her that is like, oh, fuck, this is what it's like being with you. I have to deal with this level. This might have been, as far as I know, this is a girl who's never really dealt with any kind of public backlash. She's got to live this fun life of like, oh, I'm hot and I'm hanging out and I'm having a good time and life is great. And then all of a sudden you start dating this guy who is reasonably hated and you are just under fire on a daily basis. Well, it was weird timing, right? Because he had given her these like, like she was warned.

You know what I'm saying? Like she knew that what came along with, with like being in a relationship with Logan. You know what I'm saying? Like he is call it hated, controversial, whatever you want to call it. at any given time. I think sometimes the stock value goes up to a point where it's like maybe almost neutral, like whatever, right? But there's a lot of controversy there.

There's a lot of problems and a lot of, and more importantly, a lot of motherfuckers taking shots at the throne. Like that's been a thing forever. Everybody knows that, right? So like she signs on and is cool with all this. And I think it just so happened to fall into this perfect storm where red pill Twitter

and Twitch was starting to require virginity for even being an acceptable specimen of woman otherwise you are discarded but it's funny because hold on wait let me and letta fit into this whole paradigm as well

but it was from doing something that the average person could genuinely agree they would never do right don't conflate this but what he I want to talk about that separate but the idea of even bringing that into this right now is gonna fucking muddy shit. Okay, you're right, you're right. So let me say, okay, so they start their relationship, so they start their relationship right around this blast off for Red Pill, right?

Where, where, where that's happening. He then picks a partner to fight that is potentially one of the most ruthless, unforgiving, by the way, diabolical, like, and I'm not, and one thing I won't take away from Dylan is, you know, he's good at what he does. Like, he may be the potential. the best troll, one of the best trolls on the planet. You know what I'm saying? And gifting a curse that may end up not ending well for him. I had never even thought about this guy until, you know, maybe a little bit of like, oh, it's a fighter or some shit.

He fought someone at some point. But I didn't know him like on a first name basis. Now I feel like I know all about it. How do you think Logan feels about that? He's the, he in this strange way is the reason why all of this happened. Nobody gave a fuck about Dylan Danis leading up until the Logan Paul fight. There was nobody that was asking for him. Yo, what's this two doing?

There wasn't a single person in the world. When you do a boxing match, that's what you're doing is you're swapping clout with the other person. And in this case, Logan had so much more to give him, especially because he was willing to go all out in terms of attacking his personal life. So many people hate him. So it's just a matter of like, yo, now I can weaponize that audience, right? So Logan awakens this beast, which is also fueled by this new red pill, you know, agenda to create and also propagated by a youthful audience that doesn't even understand how fucking vaginas work. They've never even seen a fucking pussy in their fucking lives. Yet they are the authority on them.

These are like representatives of the fact that like male virginity is at an all time high. Yeah. And neon is one of their new saviors. Save it. Put it to the side. Put it to the side. We're muddying things. Yeah. No, no, no, no. That's fine. So all this shit happens and it creates this, this perfect storm for, you know, the chaos that we're now witnessing. And very similar to the picture that we talked about earlier, you know, Nina, Nina had, like, like Nina has exes, just like any girl at 30 plus years old has exes, right? Like exes, A list, whatever you want to call it, right?

X's past lovers, right? Like, what are we fucking 12? Right? But then also has 140 million pictures of her posing with dudes at parties. Right. Every porn star, fuck that. Every girl model porn star actress, you know, Zendaya fucking, you know, comedians,

Whitney Cummings has a million pictures of them with their arm with a doer with their arm around or at a cocktail party. Right. The juvenile, almost fucking, just idiotic sense of this,

of this audience on Twitter that if you take a picture with another human, you have fucked that person is, how do you, this, this is the question I want to ask you.

How much time do we as humans even waste on this conversation? It's so stupid. It's so embarrassing. This has got to be one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever talked about in my life. You can't stand next to someone and take a picture without now, without it being assumed that you have put their cock into your vagina. Like, that to me is like insane. To me, when I was in high school, I had a high school girlfriend for like a year and a half

for two years and she had made out with a guy that I was friends with before we started seeing each other. We started seeing each other at 16 when she was like 15. She had made out this friend of mine. And I'm 16 and I'm kind of jealous and I don't know what to do with my emotions. And I remember being a little bit annoyed by it. But then I got over it because I realized, well, if you like her, who gives a fuck about what she's done in the past? It doesn't really like say that much about her. This is before she even knew you.

And at a certain point, I just had to realize like as you get older, it's going to be be more and more of a consistent thing that the girls that you get into relationships with or the girls that you like will have hooked up with some dude that you know or have a whole shillow to exes and by the time you make it to 30 this is going to seem like total like a total non factor again that was me when I was 16 I settled this in my brain and was able to sort of wrap my head around the fact that a woman's sexual past is not that important so it is so shocking to me that we keep consistently having to have this conversation and shout out to brian from the whatever pod but I mean this guy is having a conversation about body counts for five hours every night.

That's so whack. And he never tires of talking about this. And the audience doesn't tire of listening to it. The thing that I think is like, okay, two points on that. That's why I love coming on this show because these conversations have just like trickled down where we can go in a million fucking different directions, right? As you just said, as a woman who's single at the age of 30, right now we're dealing with the divorce rate of around what, 55, 60% of marriages are ending in divorces at this point.

So you got to assume that a lot of these women who are married in the mid-20s are going to be single, right, and maybe had partners beforehand, maybe had multiple partners beforehand, maybe had a whole phase in college, whatever the fuck, right, and are going to be single at 30. Very realistic idea, very realistic, non-perfect idea, because that's the other problem with these people is they, once again, like I said earlier, think the world is this perfect binary place where it's you're either a virgin or a whore. Yeah, and where the Bible is going to dictate exactly how your life is going to go and that's,

and that's exactly what's going to happen, right? Now, it has started to churn this very strange niche red pill community of men and women pushing for men to be talking to very young women. Very pure young, like, where are we going with this right now? guys like what the fuck is happening what is happening right now dude pump the fucking breaks for a second and really look at where this is starting to go dude right because if you expect pure sexual purity from the woman that you're going to be spending time with then you basically end up in the position where the only women who are going to be totally sexually pure are the ones who are like

in high school so then you end up with john zirka tweeting about how he wants to marry a 17 year old which is a very weird splintered out effect from this whole thing Correct, because especially when you marry that with the fact that that side of the world is so against that type of activity as everyone should be, but they're so vocally against that type of activity that now you get this weird, hypocritical, conflated scenario where you can't not win. And that's the problem. That's just, is just these fucking, these fucking gurus, bro, who many of them with no life experience. I want to keep Tate out of it because I, will say this. He's been through, he's been through some shit. You can, you can see that. You can, he's weathered, bro. Like, I don't know if he's the warrior that he claims to be. I'm not, I'm not saying that, but he's definitely been through some shit. He's been in fucking prison. He's

dealt with the death of his fucking parents. At least it seems like real life advice from his experience, which a lot of these guys, it feels like they're just listening to other podcasts, just say things and they're running with it, even though they haven't really had that experience. That's exactly what I'm getting it. And the problem. problem with that and I don't know if Tate would agree with this and I honestly like I take this for whatever you want I would love to I would love to have a conversation with that man I have I have had some back and forth with them on text and I would be interested to go to fucking Bucharest or whatever is to sit down because I know that he's actually been through some shit and I know he's

he said some shit he's been through some shit that people find fucked up whatever but he's at least been through it and that's been one of the hardest pills for me to swallow is me getting into these like morality conversations and these conversations with people who've never been through the real shit like the real shit war warfare bro like actual like like like you want to say drug addiction is a is a is a self-imposed

you know disease call it for what it is but I lived on the streets for 10 years I spent my entire life disappointing shaming regret felony arrest firearms like really lived in that shit for a decade of my fucking life it defined me as a human bro and And then to think that you would turn away from this girl that you're seeing now as a result of like, I don't know, like let's say that she's slept with a bunch of guys. Who the fuck cares?

No, no, no, no, no. You're from the East Coast. We're from New England, Connecticut. Life is hard, man. Girls don't look like that where we're from. Ever. No, but it's even deeper than that. This girl, all she did was show a shadow of a hiphole.

Yeah, I know. So, like, imagine me and I'm sitting there like, bro, like, what the fuck is good? But it's another issue that I have with this new guru. society that we're living in is there's a tremendous amount of learning that comes out of personally touching the stove, bro. Your mom and dad can tell you every day your life, don't touch a stove, don't touch a stove, don't touch a stove. But when you touch that stove and you feel that shit start to singe into your fucking skin

and into the muscle in your fucking hand and you really, really remember what that felt like, They say that lessons not learned in blood are soon forgotten. This idea that we can just deliver a one size fits all message to our youth, to our male youth, and it's going to just create this society of perfect men is fucking stupid. Men have to learn through trial, through tribulation. I'm not saying they have to make the same mistakes that I do, but everything that I am today is a result of the consequences that I had to face for my fucking actions. So just simply substituting those with this idea.

that we can all exist based on this round peg circle hole mentality is fucking stupid to me here's my question you start seeing this girl have you asked her about her body count there is not a single human in my entire life that I've ever

come in contact with that whether unless it was for the dumbest content that I regret saying where I've said yo what's your body how fucking stupid of a fucking question is that but don't you think at a certain point in the relationship it becomes normal because I've spoken to multiple girls.

Lena's assistant goes on a date with a random guy and tells us that the guy asked her on the first date what her body count was. It just seems insecure to me. To me, that means that you should be excluded from ever getting pussy from this person that you just asked that if you asked that on a first date. Now, a month, two months into the relationship,

you start really hanging out and stuff. Then it starts to feel like maybe more of a normal question. But why would a girl ever give you an honest answer? is she knows that you're going to use this against her. It's just, maybe I'm just, listen, sometimes I like to assume that maybe I'm just very different. Because that's an important,

that's also an important thing. And not to keep harping on it, but it goes back to what I said earlier about the differences between all of us as humans, different strokes for different folks. You know what I'm saying? Like all of us are different people. Because of the shit that I've done in my life,

the mistakes that I've made, because I'm such an imperfect human who I like to believe that nowadays, and I think I've gotten a pretty, unfortunately, I've either miscommunicated my way into a little bit of a weird, you know, feelings towards me of a greater public outside of my audience. But I am a good person, bro. I wake up. I truly, truly try my best to do as little harm on this planet as possible,

to brighten people's days, to be positive, and more than anything to be empathetic with people's past. and to understand that people are up against shit that we don't understand mental demons, socioeconomic demons, family abuse, sexual abuse, traumatic shit from their past that shapes things that they're doing now

or in the past that they may be ashamed of. But who the fuck am I to go fucking judge somebody or to call a girl a fucking whore? Like, do you know, do you, me pointing a fucking rocker at you, you'd have to point 100, but imagine a girl asked me my body count. That's disgusting. I have no idea. That is fucking disgusting. No fucking clue. And I'm not proud of that. I'm not proud of that, which is why, which is why the, the, the, the conversation I have with a woman when we

first start to talk is, is not as conversational as it is awareness based. Is this girl currently a whore? Right. That's a conversation I'm having with myself. I'm not asking her. I'm observing. I'm going to figure this out on my own. I'm not going to ask you because you're the worst person to ask.

You feel me? Or maybe she's not. Maybe she is telling the truth. But I'm still going to verify based on my trusted resources in whatever city you come from, what your activities and actions from the past and currently look like. Okay. But I never asked Elena, her body count, but I did tell her early on when we started seeing each other. I said, if you fucked anybody,

who I'm around who's relevant in my field. That's more. Way different. And I'm not going to get mad at you about it, but I need to know if it's a guy who used to come to my bike shop all the time that I know by I know his first name. I want to know because that that shit could actually be really awkward for me. For sure.

Got a couple of names. No big deal. We moved past it. But that there's a level to which you kind of need to know that. Especially like within your like pretty decent circle. Yeah. You know what I'm saying. If you fuck Jeff Whittick and you're not going to tell us and then we need to know.

We need to know. Because that'd be very weird for you. Yeah, exactly. Circle or industry, right? Or it doesn't. Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, at the end of the day. And that's the problem.

You're in so many industries. It's so many industries adjacent. We're just in such, like, at the end of the day, like, men are so ego driven, right? And so pride driven that the idea that another chick or that another dude, like, mudda fucked your girl is, like, problematic, right? Because, like, then you start asking yourself questions, like, was it better than mine? You know what I'm saying? And this, and I will get into your, because that's a great segue, right?

But like, but like, it's just become very strange, right? It's just become a very strange time and it's very unrealistic to imagine this, this prerequisite of purity and the other human. And also, like, once again, I just say it, like, people can believe whatever they want. If what you believe is based on some sort of religious background or something that you study, I have no problem. I'm not out here trying to, like, really, really shun people. be like, don't do that. But for me personally, to ever be that concerned with what someone did in their past, if I know right now for a fact, maybe it's because of who I am as a man, maybe it's because

of my abilities and how I'm thrown down. Maybe it's because of whatever, right? Whatever you want to say, I always feel very secure in my relationships, always. The day that that starts to feel different, where I start to feel like, yo, maybe we got a problem. I just walk away. You know what I'm saying? That's your job as a man is to make decisions about your girl's current character

and then base your decisions off of that. You know what I'm saying? Like some numbers, if you meet a girl and you fall in love with her, as you said earlier, and you have those feelings and she's mature and, you know, she's, this girl was making my bed the first time she came to my house, folding clothes, making me Cuban coffee, like really, really being mature and respectful. She's Cuban? She's an island girl.

Yeah, I said to her. I said, yo, next week I'm going on a trip to October Fest in Munich with Karina Koppf and Stella Anil Princess Barry. Shut on Anil Princess. And she said, okay, have fun. There was no. We're already months in. No, of course.

Of course, she, there's moments of weakness. There's moments of whatever, but it's delivered maturely. It's delivered properly. Yo, this picture that you posted here was a little bit like, let's talk about it. If there's a reason you had to post it, like, let me know. Let's just figure it out together. Like, bro, this girl is fucking mature, way beyond her years. More mature than me, that's not hard.

That goes along away with me, too, because it's just like, if you're just in this industry and in this world, it's like, you're just going to be in a lot of situations. And I know rapper dudes who spend their entire life arguing with their girlfriend. So, because they have to shoot music videos with a bunch of models. They have to go to the strip club as part of their career. There's a shitload of girls in their dressing room, even if it has nothing to do. with them. Now, a lot of these guys are cheating all the time as well, which makes it even more complicated. See, I don't do that, and that's another thing. I've never, I've never cheated. I've never been

a cheetah. But you will take a successful dude who has a great thing going with them career-wise, and they will spend the entirety of their career dealing with a girl who just wants to yell at them for the girls that they're around, and I've seen it a million times. And to me, this seems like the greatest waste of your potential that I could possibly imagine for you to be at the height of your career and you're just being tormented by this woman. Yeah. No, for sure. I could.

Listen, like, I'll just say it like the relationship with Lana got pretty rough. Well, let's be rough. Was this ever like a sincere relationship on your end? Because to me, it always kind of seemed like a cloud grab. And I felt like you were always kind of trying to talk yourself into thinking or into like fooling the world into believing that this was for real purposes. But I don't, I feel like you guys were never really like. that clicked up like that, right?

I think once again, it's just complicated. You know what I'm saying? I think, I think, I think, uh, me and Lana, um, became like real allies, real partners. Because as we know, love, like real love and real relationships exist outside of just that idea that you're going to be together forever or that this, you know, this, this, like, soulful connection of love. And like, it's great when it's based on that. But I think we found a, we found like a partner in each other of two people who kind of had been through the ringer and we're going to be there to kind of like support each other.

It was more of like a real deep friendship, I would say, you know, than anything. And we still are, we still are friends to this day. But she wanted to settle down and have kids and you did not. Yeah, yeah. Is there a part of you that's more open to that idea now? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Really?

100%. Was a part of it. the reason why you didn't want to then because it was just her specifically? No, no, I think it was a timing thing. I think in my mind, well, also, I don't know. I don't know. In my eyes, now it was a timing thing. But like, yeah, they're like, listen, like we,

we had some pretty bad blowouts, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, real, real, real nasty. Some of them took place on Twitter. Yeah, but there were some lists. But there was, yeah, that, no, no, that was nothing. That was just content, bro. I mean, like, real, like, nasty shit that was like,

detrimental. You know what I'm saying? That could have become a problem, right? And when it got to that point where, you know, for anybody watching this who's in a relationship that's toxic at that level, you've really got to start to value and put a price tag on your life, your career, your name, you know what I'm saying? And it was getting into some shit where it was where some of that stuff was going to potentially be questioned or put into flux. And that's when you just got to say, yo, like, it's just not worth it. It's not worth the idea of us working this out, this dream sequence where we, you know, somehow all this fighting ends and we run off into the sunset together with these kids

and get this house together. Like that dream is not worth it at the expense of our current reality. You know what I'm saying? which is this day-to-day fighting because she was she just was not cool with with my lifestyle she was not cool with other women um which obviously like would seem strange but but for her like that's not what she was looking for her a true partner that was locked in um and and i just wasn't at the time i was so focused on growing my brand and my career and all that stuff well sorry but i just got to ask this when i watch you

videos, which I love. It's like I'm watching a version of myself, because there are enough similarities that it feels like this very easily could be me. Because we're almost the same age from the East Coast, been through a shillow of stuff, somehow find ourselves at

a point at like 40, where we have a lot of opportunities available to us that you can always kind of be on the move. There's always exciting new people to hang out with, exciting new content to make, new bags to pick up, new sponsors to work with, new people that have brands that want to fuck with you, et cetera.

And it's like at a certain point around 2019, around the time that I fell back on partying, I kind of said like, okay, I'm going to really just focus on grinding this content and I'm going to make my life way less social. And I don't know how much of this was like something I was cognizant of, but then obviously having the kid kind of like further forced my hand

and like pushed me into a lifestyle that slowed down a lot. But then I see your videos and I'm like, oh my life if I had kept my foot on the gas would be a lot more like this where I'm at some fucking beer garden with korena comp or whoever the fuck and you know you're just constantly on the move doing different stuff and then I see moments where you're in bed you know talking to the camera and it's like you've been on the road for two weeks or three weeks and you're you're exhausted but you're having a fucking blast but also you being 40 there's part of you where 38 you said 40 in video okay I thought you were actually 40 where I heard you

But there's part of you that is like, fuck, something is going to have to change. And it might not be today. It might not be tomorrow. And I might be able to live this life for another five years. But chances are that you're just not going to be living this life in 10 years, right? And I feel like that's something that kind of weighs on you, even though you are taking the maximum advantage of the situation that you're in right now. But there's part of you that knows at some point, you're going to pivot away from being a YouTuber. You're going to pivot away into whether it's business, whether it's family, whether it's

it's something different. Like, am I, am I correct? That's something that weighs on you a little bit. 100%. No, and by the, it all weighs on you.

That's the thing is like, is like, it's a, every, for all of us, like this isn't a me thing. Life is just heavy, bro.

It's just really fucking heavy, bro. I mean that. And, and, you know, a lot of that shit seems glamorous.

And I want to, and I want to, and I want to say this. Man, just, just looking back, people, a lot of these dudes,

dudes are doing cool shit but I'm doing real cool shit bro like I really mean that like on a global fucking skin and a lot of the shit doesn't even get shared you know what I'm saying like I've had bro I've had nights out in Gold Coast from getting on the elevator at the

Langham and I see a dude get off with security and I turn around and look and he turns around he looks and I go Dave and he goes Mike Dave Chappelle getting off the elevator at the Langham he goes come to my show tonight I got a show on

Brisbane, you know, come up. And I got these two Australian models with me and we go up. His manager hits me, come to the green room. It's just me, us three, come to the green room after. We go in. He's got a red room, not a green room. He keeps the lights red. He thinks he like calms him down, whatever. We sit there and he, man, what you guys are doing in the podcast, you know, I'm sitting there and I'm trying to understand my life at this moment. Like I'm sitting in Australia, like in Brisbane, Australia, in another world, like years away from where I came from as a drug addict. But that's why you stay in nice hotels because you might run into Dave Chappelle by accident, you know. But I'm sitting there and he's, you know, he's got his drink and we're just kicking

it talking. He's playing me an unreleased podcast with him and Kanye and Bill Murray and Talib Kuali and I'm like, what is going on? And I say I'm sitting there with him for two hours that Dave do you want to go and get a bite to eat. So we call this restaurant in Brisbane. They got these big wagyu steaks. It's one in the morning. We'll open back up for y'all. They bring all the chefs in. Dave rolls with this massive security detail, four sprinters, all the security because he's gotten run up on in South Africa and he's got to, they try to stab him in LA, all this shit. Wow.

And I'm sitting there eating this fucking steak with Chappelle and we're talking about addiction and opiate epidemics in Ohio and my book and all this shit. And I have this, then we go out after that to a club. And I have this long, you know, six and a half hour, you know, adventure with Dave Chappelle and just me and him and, and just spending the night, just having a fucking good time. And this never made it to the ground?

I never made. I mean, you know, I'll say, like, I took a selfie with him. But like, you know, never like, oh, we partied. I never talked because because once you start to really make it a big thing, once you say, oh, yeah, Abel says what's up to me at his release party or this happens or that. Like once you start to turn it into it, the motherfuckers will stop talking to it. Because they're going to be like, oh, he's out here talking. So I try to, but I'm talking about this one just to illustrate, you know,

this very interesting scenario that I found myself in over the past, you know, five years. And of course, shout out to Logan and shout out to all the people. people that I've, that I've collaborated with and, and, yo, I owe everything to Logan for, for taking a chance on me and put me on, right? And what I've done with it and how I've run with it since then is on me. And that's where we're at, right? But I've got to do some shit that's just really, really crazy shit. And the list goes on. I mean, we've, we've been to fucking zero-gravity space, you know, in a dive bombing, you know, 737. We've been taking private choppers to Stonehenge. And, and I've been to fucking, you know, I've spent so much time in Saudi and all of these places,

these new world places that are just so great and met so many cool people that any time I I start to feel like I'm being pressured out of that lifestyle, it scares the fuck out of me because this isn't some average everyday shit. Like the access that I'm being given

you know, by way of the relationships that I've been able to create and by way of all the community that I've been able to build and all these things are very special and I feel so blessed and so, so, you know, humbled by the experience and the ability to talk to these people.

Like, like, even on the podcast and, like, getting to chill with Kevin Hart and getting to, you know, talk after I was with Erling and Shaq and all these people that have been able to come in contact with by way of this beautiful thing, it always scared me to be like, dude, I'm going to step back now.

Right now? Bro, that's the hell shit was six months ago. I'm doing shit now, like, that's equal level. You know what I'm saying? I'm opening burger shops in other countries. Bro, I got them rolling out government visas for me, putting me on private planes without Logan. None of this is Logan shit.

This is just me now. I'm on my own too. You know what I'm saying? Doing real fucking shit. So whenever I start to feel the clamps of that, you know, aging that like going quietly into that slower period of life, it scares me a little bit. Because it's like I could imagine being a business guy. You always hear people just talking about their real estate investments and shit.

And like you kind of think like, well, shit, I got money and I could like do some real estate shit. But I get it, I bet if you were to ask every single real estate guy, would you rather be a millionaire who makes YouTube content and, like, gets to party and travel the world and constantly interact with new and interesting people? The average real estate guy would say, like, no, you should absolutely keep going with that lifestyle. Because anybody can fucking buy an apartment building. Well, the weird thing is from everything we know, like the, what is the Drake lyric where he talks about athletes,

like they want to be, we want to be them. and they want to be us. It's very strange because I run into these family types all the time. And this is like really the separation that I talked about earlier between like really being out here in the real world versus the appearance of being out here with these streamers and all these kids that are on the come up. Like I'm really with these motherfuckers.

Like I'm with them, you know, like if we're talking business, we're at, you know, Brentwood Country Club like talking about some shit or I'm on a G5 on the way to fucking Spain doing it, whatever, right? they're all in their mind they look at what I do and they're billionaires bro and all they want to do is talk about the shit I'm doing

like I'm trying to sneak in a question wherever possible like yo how do I get to your level they don't want to talk about that because in their mind like this is the cool shit tell us more about this girl tell us more about that because to them being rich is the default whereas having a bunch of clout and being able to constantly have new and exciting experiences

and that's the thing is even the richest people on earth are sitting around watching fucking YouTube videos of guys who have 1% of the money that they have doing crazy shit and doing pranks and stuff like this. Yeah, yeah. This is what people do is they watch fucking YouTube. Like, it's just the reality of it, you know? Yeah, but it's just, it's just weird, dude.

Like, it's just been a really weird thing. And I don't know that, like, because you saw me at the end of the video last week where I talked about being exhausted. I got a lot of physical problems right now that I'm dealing with that I haven't taken care of. I got real bad gastrointestinal issues. And I got a right. ankle that's completely arthritic um that i need to have surgically have the ankle remove called fusion surgery i can barely even really walk on it you know i've got and then like similar in that same vein

i've got columbian you know stem cell scientists like come down dude like come hang out we'll get we'll get you a free 50,000 you know what i've got good experiences with the stem cells no i haven't yet because i haven't gotten down there except it did it one time and i'm convinced it didn't do anything okay yeah somebody says something different yeah but maybe i just need to do more of it. Anyways, what I'm getting as this. Like, it's all just a double-edged sword and

and, you know, once again, everybody's just going to make their own decisions. I may get to a point where I'm 50 years old, I got no kids. I remember we had we had Bruce Buffer on. Oh, man. The podcast. I saw that and like him talking about choosing

to never have kids was, you know, made me feel very conflicted because it's like you were grinding away on your career for all these years, but it feels like you missed out on something and you know now that that window of the time is gone and you're not going to be able to do it now. And it was just sort of like bittersweet, just seeing him talk about it. Yeah, it was sad. And so like, and I felt that in the room with him. And it was like, you know, Pacino just had a kid. He's what, 92? Yeah. And then broke up with a biz right away, right? Oh, really? Yeah. See, some of these guys are just,

I mean, one thing I do love delivering to the audience is it's never too late for anything. You know, if you're still breathing, the only time it's too late is when that casket clicks. You know what I'm saying? Other than that, like, you got time to do anything you want in this world. Shit gets harder when you got a family. You got a house to take care of, like stuff gets a little bit harder to manage. No, as far as East Coast scumbag success stories, yours is definitely up there. It's like, it's just not easy for you to come from the grit in the dirt.

And I'm from, you know, realistically pretty humble beginnings, but like you were a real drug addict. So that colors it especially. Like, you're not supposed to make it out of that and accomplish a lot. Well, you're not supposed to make it out of it at all. I mean, I think, like, for example, like, I didn't also come from a nasty world. Like, my upbringing was lower to middle class. I got a great family. My parents divorced when I was 15, but, like, it was all normal shit.

It wasn't until I, you know, I was 17 and tried Oxy for the first time and started to really dive into that world and, you know, led to a point where I was living in New Haven and Bridgeport, which are two of the more dangerous cities in the country and, you know, ranked statistically all the time for violent crime. I lived down the fucking streets. I sold crack. I sold heroin. And more than anything was just a straight up drug addict.

I was standing outside the methadone clinic fucking, you know, not not living for any reason. You know what I'm saying? Just I didn't want to die, but I don't think I really give fuck if I saw the next day. You know what I'm saying? And that was my existence for 10 years, you know? So, you know, I mean, and a lot of that shit still haunts me. A lot of that shit is shit that I haven't really processed. A lot of post-traumatic, a lot of surgeries, a lot of, you know, bleeding out, a lot of that type of shit.

And it really does. It really does reshape your perspective, you know? Definitely. but uh i want to like uh turn it over at rima once i mean because i feel like i haven't acknowledged rino at all but i'm just wondering y'all got history so i'm just really just sowing it and just listening to you guys yeah i got questions for sure yeah but i don't want to anyway this is rima no i know i met him earlier and i i was excited to hear the stuff the questions and talk about that and i i do once again want to apologize to the audience a

little bit because I really am a little bit fragmented. My mind has become a little bit fragmented and I jump around a lot. And I think I have a lot of good stuff to say, but unfortunately, I've lost track of a... No, that was beautiful. No, that's a good shit. You love to have somebody on the podcast that will just hate you with an hour long, intense fucking analysis of exactly where they're at in life. Yeah. That's very valuable. No, we needed that. We need that. All right. So do you hate Dylan at this point? There's never a day where I wake up hating anyone. That's another. emotion that I'm completely unfamiliar with. And I truly mean that.

Like if I, ever, ever, ever, I don't feel hatred. I have some, uh, understanding of jealousy. I have some understanding of those type of emotions very light. Because if I really want something, I'll just get it as opposed to hating on somebody who has it, if that makes sense. Um, so no, I don't, I don't hate Dylan. I, I am, uh, I feel bad for him. I feel bad for him.

I think, In the sense of what, though? I think just like all of us, he's probably been through some shit in his life that's created a, uh, a, a,

a human that is kind of filled with, with hatred. A human that is kind of filled with, um, sadness. You know, I think there's a lot of, I think there's a lot of,

uh, I think there's a lot of faking that goes on in our space. I've always been straight up. I'm not the happiest person. I've dealt with a lot of, depression, a tremendous amount of anxiety in my life. I wake up every day and have to face that battle. But there's a lot of people out there who will claim that they love, I love my life.

Like, look at my fucking life type shit. But like you can, you look at that man. You know he's got some, he's got some flaw of real insecurities about himself. You know what I'm saying? About his worth, about his, who knows what it is? But you think it's that? You don't think it's just boxing promotion? Because that's, that's one thing I was saying too, like,

With Logan being in the WWE, a lot of the stuff that he does, people can kind of, like, you don't know if it's real, if it's not, because a lot of the shit that's going on is like 20% fake or, you know, a lot of people really can't gauge, like, are they doing this for publicity? Is this to sell the fight? But that's why people are excited about this Logan and Dylan shit is because it feels so real. I'm not sure if there's any elements of it that are fake, but at this point in time, it's very hard to get people that give a shit about an influencer boxing match because there's so little actual animosity wrapped around these fights, right?

Yeah, no, it's very real. The hatred is very real. There's no, there's no fakeness. No, no, from a more simple standpoint, leave all my psychoanalysis out of it. Like, this is a very exciting fight. I'm actually going to be commentating out there and some lead into it.

And, yeah, they hate each other. I, the only reason I brought up the thing with Dylan is you can tell he has so much invested in these numbers. Like, like, and this whole clout thing. And if you think clout can ever be healthy as a thing to attach yourself to, to represent your value in life, you're making a massive mistake. Like, and that's a, that's a struggle we all have to deal with. View counts start dropping.

This happens. Do I suck? Am I, you know what I'm saying? And the reason I say that with him is like, he'll have a tweet that doesn't do so good. And he'll put out like two or three tweets after like, yo, don't worry about that last tweet. I'm shadow banned. Do you know what I'm saying? like he's so entangled into it right now.

It's so new to him, this idea that he's like crushing it from a cloud standpoint, that it's really in his mind representing him as a person so much. And it's going to be a real come to Jesus for him when this fight's over and his numbers go back to nothing. You know what I'm saying? And I just hope as a fellow human, he, you know, he understands his self-worth outside of that.

Because I'm sure, but like I said, I don't hate him. I don't. I really, I'm sure he's got, redeeming qualities like everybody else i know he's a he's a he's a he's a great grappler i know he's a world champion uh judictu you know um grappler and and and you know i do have know some people who know him and have never really had terrible things to say about him so i mean you know it i'm kind of just stuck in the middle of it you know what i'm saying and like obviously i'm going to ride from my boy and and that's it but like Logan has to win this fight like out of

all the fights he had this is the one that he asked to win like oh yeah like he can't take I think about him losing it. Yeah, that's not going to, that would not be great. I don't even know what that scenario looks like. I don't even like to imagine that scenario. It's like, he has to win this one. Well, I mean, do you guys see a world where that doesn't have, like, do you see a world where like, we've seen some sparring?

We understand, like, you know, power. First and foremost, do you guys think that Dylan Dennis is showing up to this fight? That's another question I was going to ask you. It's the only thing that could stop him from showing up the fact that he's dealing with all these lawsuits, apparently? So let me ask you guys that question. What do you guys think? about the lawsuits. Coming from her, I think it's totally fair. I'm not surprised

that she did it, and I would think that almost anyone would do it in this situation, and I think that he probably should have thought about that before he went off the fucking deep end. All right, so what I heard is, what I was watching, because I was doing some research on this yesterday, he said that the stuff that he's posting, he's just leaving it up for speculation. He said he's never once made a post saying that she's a hoe or anything.

So, like, he's saying that he shouldn't really be getting sued for anything. All he has done was post public pictures and stuff. I'll just say it like this because I don't because this is legal shit. Then he's got nothing to worry about. I mean, if every single photo that he's posted has been public, then he's got nothing to worry about. I feel like her legal team at a certain point is going to be able to figure out that some of that stuff was not sent out into the world by her.

And that that's where it might get complicated. I mean, if every single photo he posted was public, then, you know, he's got nothing to worry about. But regardless of that, I've watched these videos recently of, like, these, like, crazy, like, angry podcasters. Like, I can't remember this one dude's fucking flipping out, bro. Like, going crazy.

I can't remember what his name was, but why, oh, it was like why Logan Paul is, like, the worst person on earth. He was screaming, this motherfucking piece of shit. I fucking backed him, like, screaming going nuts. Um, him and a lot of other people get into this whole thing about like whether it was right or wrong

for this lawsuit to happen pre-fighting how dare logan how dare logan threaten the fucking sanctity of of shit talking before a fight with this fucking lawsuit what kind of pussy do you have to be and i'm watching it and once again like back to the the idiotic idiocracy of this world we plan and he Logan's lawsuit yeah right

he didn't have to do anything it's not his lawsuit he didn't fucking file it so I'm sitting there people I got a text from fuck it I'm gonna just say it I got text from Miles O'Neill

the other day Shaq's son I love Miles great fucking kid he said yeah I don't fuck with this lawsuit he said that's fucked up and I said

no it's fucked up that Logan did that I said first and foremost text Logan yeah why the fuck are you text He said, no, that's your man. I said, bro, this is another thing I want to kill all these fucking bullshit on the show today.

Motherfuckers think we're just connected at the hip. The dude lives on Neptune, bro, literally in the middle of a fucking island that I never see. I see him once a fucking month to do some shows, get a check-in weekly, and that's it. So you'll just bank a bunch of podcasts. Yeah, we bank shows. We do some, you know, real-time shows, whatever. And, like, we talk here and there. But, like, dude, my show doesn't have him.

on it. He's doing his own world with prime. He's got his fiance, all this shit, this idea that that anything I do in my life is influenced whatsoever by him or vice versa is fucking insane. But he's a little bit harder to get to. So people see you and they're like, oh, Michael respond. So I'm going to hit mic up. For sure. So it's like, so he text me and says that. And that's the first thing I say, like text him about it. And then second of all is like, bro, like it's not his lawsuit. Like he's not the person that filed the lawsuit. He's like this was a decision made by the person that is listed in the fucking legal document as the lawsuit. So then people say, well, yeah, well, you know, he's using the lawsuit as leveraging it's

Dylan in the fight. And that's fucked up. So it's not fucked up that Dylan's using his girlfriend's body count, right, or his fiance's body count, which is- But not even, because it doesn't appear there has any kind of information about that. Right. But the fact that he's using this percentage. perceived situation, right, which is not Logan's situation.

So he's using this spin-off to promote the fight. But when Logan uses a spinoff situation from him to promote the fight, it's hands off. Like how dare you utilize something that is not, you know, we don't agree with. You know what I'm saying? So it's really just, Logan can't do anything right. That's the thing. Like at the end of the day, that's what we all have to admit that. He's never going to, short of the stuff he does in WWE, like outside of that, bro, there's

always going to be a video of why Prime is the worst thing in the world. There's always going to be a video of like why, you know, this X, Y, and Z. Because people are just haters, bro. That's just like, at the end of the day, that's what it is. And obviously there's, like, been a bunch of other shit. Some of it has merit to it. You know what I'm saying? Like, the crypto thing, those questions, like asking those questions, that's fine, bro. Like, I understand that. I understand that. I understand that those questions being asked, right? Yeah. For sure he deserves everything he's ever gotten in terms of the crypto shit,

but for sure Nina doesn't deserve any of the shit that she's taken. And that, to me, there's just certain lines that if you cross them, and to me, like, involving an innocent woman in the boxing match promo to such an extent. Now, if he had posted a couple photos of her and left it alone, I wouldn't be so offended by it. Well, that's what happened. It's the consistent over and over. and over and the fact that he seems like he's never going to get sick of it. That to me is the part that I think is why I'm in her corner when it comes to the lawsuit.

I think that she's doing something that I can get behind. Yeah. I mean, it's, it was relentless. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It was just a relentless slaughter of, of shit. And so, and so like it's, you know, there's, this past year has been tough. I've been through, I've been through five years with them of, you know, differing levels of just, of just craziness.

Like, I joined, you know, six months prior to Tokyo. I was with him through Tokyo. You know what I'm saying? Which arguably is like the apex of all shit, right? Like in terms of controversy. For the internet in general, let alone just him, right? So I was with him through that. I saw that.

I was with him through, you know, various other allegations, various other, you know, things. And this past year's been tough because, one, I've been roped into a lot of them, which I had nothing to do with. You know what I'm saying? which has been fucking annoying. Like between the crypto shit,

between now this, where I got Dylan resharing pictures of my fucking girl who doesn't do anything. She's the sweetest person. And she's got getting text messages from people like, yo,

why is she doesn't care obviously because she's like, dude, I've never, like I took a picture with this guy at the club. What the fuck do you want for me? You know? Yeah.

But between all that and then, and then all the way back to like really with like George and shit. You know? And like, and like it's just been a long year. Um, where where I've had to really question my own desire to be attached to something that's so flammable.

Because I know him. I love the kid, bro. I really do. And he is not perfect. But there's been moments where you thought like maybe this isn't worth it. Maybe I don't want to be a part of the same one? Honestly, not really. No, not really.

Not moments where I was like, no, I don't want to do. Because I love doing the show. We love doing the show. You know what I'm saying? But, but, but, but,

like, you, you, you, you, you at least have to, you at least have to be able to empathize with what it's like to always be,

you know, next to that flame. You know what I'm saying? And there's good and bad that comes with it. And I, and, you know, there have been times where I felt like maybe,

I think, you know, the, the good of it at this point has kind of, like, from a, like, from a,

From a brand's perspective has kind of been bled out. You know what I'm saying? Like whatever personal branding and personal growth I'm going to get out of that relationship has been done probably for years now. But you don't want to be the kind of friend who rides with somebody during the part of their career where it helps you and then you're kind of out of there once it stops being beneficial to. It's not that I don't want to. I can't. I don't have that in my body. Because you see it constantly in the creator space and it's fucking lame as far.

For sure. Nor do I believe that to necessarily be the case long term. Right. Because he's a fucking, he's a rocket-shade pro. I don't care if he's scammed 50,000 people. And if his girl fucked the whole football team, it does not matter. He's Logan Paul at the end of the day. He's still going to be able to do whatever the fuck he wants. It's blatantly obvious to me that all this shit might be big controversies.

It doesn't matter. He's still Logan Paul. And you're still Mike. And like certain people, when you get to a certain stage in your career, it just doesn't matter. And that's not, that is so obvious to me with Logan that he's going to be fine. Yeah. That it's like, I can't even consider the idea that any of this stuff affects him in the long term.

He's just, I mean, he's, and he's even not even like in thinking phase. And his thinking phase is now like are going to look different than they used to because like right now he's an execution phase. Fight WWE. Fight WWE. Prime. Right? He's going to exit for prime.

He's going to make billions of dollars, literally. And then he's going to go back into thinking stage, right? The difference now is when he goes back in the thinking stage, he's going to do it a little bit more responsibly. I think the biggest issue is he was just chewing on heavy shit that he couldn't execute on. And that's unfortunate, but not morally reprehensible in the way that it's been pushed out.

The narrative's been pushed out. I've been a part of every single thing, you know, up until he kind of moved away and now I don't see as much of it anymore. but but you know there was never a time where anything was done anything was done out of a desire to quickly get money or to or to to to um to malignantly like or or you know maliciously hurt someone right and once once in the light everything will look you people will be very surprised how pretty things look when they understand all of these things because now that the

FD shit thing doesn't seem as hot as it was. It's just a lot easier to look at it and be like, oh, you willingly scammed your fans. You're forgetting that everybody from phase banks to rice gum to like everybody who was big in the creator space, I'm sitting there feeling like a fucking idiot because I waited to buy a crypto punk. And yes, I ended up losing like 70 grand or whatever on the crypto punk that we buy. But, I mean, at the time, that did not seem obvious at all, you know?

Yeah. No, that space has just been a mess. and has caused a lot of trouble. But like I said, it's just been a crazy year. And, you know, there's been casualties. And, you know, it's been wild. And for me, a part of it is just like, like you said, I've been just trying to get back to like really just grinding content

and just like kind of keeping my nose out of all that shit. But is there a part of you that thinks that the vlogs, the weekly vlogs might not be the future of your content? Because I always like the direction you went with that because you're part of a huge podcast. So many people there. impulse is like, oh, I'm going to start my own podcast. And to me, that when you have like a dope podcast where you have a bunch of hosts and the podcast is all about the energy of those people

together and then you break it off and create another podcast, inevitably there's just not going to be as much energy putting into the prime product. And I feel like you probably have some kind of business arrangement where you couldn't just go start some other podcasts. But the, the vlogs are a great way to bring something very different in terms of content to the table. And I appreciate the way you've done that. Thank you. And I, and I, and I, and I, I love the vlogs, but they're, they're, they're tremendous amount of work. And so basically, I always remember maybe three years ago. And I, I, I always remember when you said this, you said, uh, this is right when impulsive was starting. And you, and you said, um, that podcast

would not work without Mike. That's what you said. Oh, I agree. Yeah, yeah. But, but this is like verbatim. But it took people a while to even like you in the first place, because it felt kind of like, who is this new guy? We don't know him. Why is he talking more than Logan? That was a little bit. And I remember even the first time when I went on Impulsive and I met you and I was thinking like, oh, I kind of like this guy a lot.

But I also am kind of like not sure if I like him because I don't know if I really, like is this guy kind of like a swindler or is he actually just like a dope-ass dude from the East Coast that I feel like I went to high school with. But I pretty quickly was like, okay, you know what? Yeah, I actually do like them because it's very hard for me to get over that hump of like who the fuck is this guy. when I meet somebody. You know, it's just like, everything in my brain is set to like, no, I don't fuck with

random new people that I'm just meeting. So it kind of took a little bit for me to get past that. Yeah, give me these squinty eyes. You know what I'm not talking about parkets and what the fuck is this? When you first got with Logan, were you his day-to-day manager? Like, what was-one? No, no, I was doing shit with him on the business side and was also just like kind of there was this like joke or perception that was like his babysitter.

You know what I'm saying? Where I was like just making sure you didn't do fucked up shit. But I just quickly became a part of the content. Because you said that you were kind of brought in to be a voice of reason or to be able to say no to shit and stuff. Was that partially because his star was shining so bright, especially at that time that it was like there was nobody in the room or was willing to tell him no? Well, yeah, it's fucked up because I classically have gotten this label of yes man. When in reality, there's never in his existence and he'll attest to this, manager Jeff will test this. Anybody that's close to the camp will attest to this.

there's never been a person that's been more of a no man to him than I have. 100%. I'm the only motherfucker. A lot of times there have been others. I'll be honest, George had, you know, would have good points that were, that were based in a,

you know, a morally, you know, conservative standpoint, like future facing and so on and so forth. But I'm always, you know, he comes to me with still,

not as much as you used to, but he still comes to me with, you know, creative and shit like that and, and certain life choices and stuff like that. And I always give him big brotherly advice. That's kind of what I was, he never had a,

brother. He was always the big brother and he got famous at a time when he was like 18 years old. But the reason why I brought up the podcast thing and what you said is not to do a horn or like drive that into stone again. It's because I don't have that agreement on the podcast front. Okay. Like I can go do, I can start a show tomorrow. In fact, we're at a point where he, I think he knows and everybody knows that if I do that, it just drives ancillary traffic back to our show. A rising tide is, you know what I'm saying?

I mean, you look at Nelke. Steining wants to start a podcast. They facilitate it within the Nelg Empire. Full send. He's going to promote happy dad. Like, yo, give me a bottle of prime. Let me drive this shit because I'm out here and I'm causing no. I'm saying shit that by the way, maybe I wouldn't sound impulsive.

Maybe it's not great for a Kevin Hart episode, but I can really talk my shit. The problem with me not reformatting into this saturated podcast world is I'm fucking good at this shit, bro. Like I could really, really, like, I can devour a three-hour podcast. Give me six hours. I can do this shit all fucking day. I study my guess. I know my shit. I'm well-versed on everything from hip-hop culture to science to fucking everything.

I've traveled the world. I've been a drug act. I have life experience. I know how to do this shit. Like, this is my world right here. This is where I should be. And so the reason I have in is because. Honestly, I got comfortable in the vlogs.

I've really good brand deals. I've really good brand partners. I make a shit ton of money. And then now that I layered Snapchat into it, it's been insane. Like the Snapchat shit has really... Every time you're bringing up in the vlogs, and I just think about the fact that I have not been chosen for the Snapchat program. I don't know what that looks like.

I feel like they're opening the doors a little bit. But I mean, dude, I'll have days. I mean, I did 30 million views yesterday in Snapchat. I've had a hundred. I've had multi like quarter billion view months on Snapchat where it's like how many followers you get? Only like 400,000. It's their algorithm.

Why do I have a million and I don't have this fucking program? God damn it. You're talking about like, oh, I made so much money. I could pay my fucking mortgage off. I'm putting Corinna on my story yesterday. And I'm just like, God damn it. I got a hit up because my guy left Snapchat and now there's like a new guy. Yeah.

So I think I'm going to hit up that guy and be like, hey, because maybe he won't know. Because my Snapchat guy, when I first, first got verified on Snapchat and shit, I was posting like my girl and Emily Willis covered in oil wearing bikinis in my bathroom. Well, I got in trouble for that reason. I was at their headquarters and I had posted a couple pictures of Emily and Sky where they were just like, like, I was, I would shoot like a wide mode where it was like my legs. You could see it in the bottom of the frame. And then they were just both looking up like super seductively. And there was like nothing going on like that day. But, but like they were like, oh, how did that?

this slipped through the algorithm. I will never post another porn-related thing if they let me in on the Snapchat monetization program. I heard the same story from Scott, everybody. Like, they're all like, dude, you got to talk to so-and-so for me. And like, yeah. But also it's a monster, bro. It's a monster.

You really got to, you got to tap in and like, like. Well, you have a motherfucker following you around taking pictures of you 24-7. Yeah. 100 slides a day. 100 slides a day. I posted 99. I posted 99 slides today. I'll tell you, I'll tell you right now.

I'll give you some. haven't looked at your Snapchat since the last time that I hung out with you in real life, but I remember like hanging out with you for a while and going to look at it and there's all these pictures of us just hanging out. And I'm like, oh, that's what his fucking guy is doing. He's just taking pictures of us because the Snapchat monetization thing is like they don't really want videos. They want tons of photos because the more photos you post, the more ads are going to be able

stick in between it. So he's got a dude just following him around taking pictures of him. If he's standing there talking to me for 15 minutes, multiple photos with like a caption and shit just to create content out of whatever the fuck he's doing. Well, the good thing is, is it's good for me because if your life is 24-7, like, fueled by, like, by doing cool exploratory shit, that lends itself very easily to that platform. And so when I go spend four days at October Fest with, you know, the biggest German creators, Corinna, you know, my team, whatever.

By the way, like, everything you do is kind of interesting, especially if you're writing about it. Like, for me, now the thing that's created, some solace in my life that's so far away from drama and all this other shit is I like doing real I like doing food and travel shit because I really have like a burning passion for that. I love like, yo, this is why the United Polaris international first class seat is better than the fucking, you know, JetBlue Mint first class international seat because the lounge has this access. There's a shower here.

You know what I'm saying? And like all of that shit lends itself well to Snapchat because people just read the captions. They watch it. They look like, oh, cool. like, oh, this San Ysidro, I was at San Ysidro Ranch in Santa Barbara in Montecito yesterday. I went there for the weekend. It's like $3,000 a night.

I spent $2,400 on a massage me and my girl. It was fucking like, you know, $1,000 for dinner and blah, blah, I look at the total nut of what that cost. I'm like, okay, I'm going to get three days of Snapchat's out of this. I might make $8,000 a day on Snapchat off it because it's such a cool, dope, like, picturesque experience. So then, you know, all the travels are right off because it's a production expense. You've made a quarter million in a month off snap?

No, not that much. No, no, no, no. That would be like if you were busing every single day. Yeah, yeah, exactly, because I'll take days off because this is the other thing I want to say. Like, a big part of my life right now is starting to turn that corner into living life. Yeah. Because I really, like, the not so glamour side of it, like, I really have ignored a lot of real important shit. Like, I get, I have, when I'm not doing this, that's why I really love doing this right now.

because it's very therapeutic for me because when I'm doing this with you guys, this stops. But when I leave here, like, I'll really go back into a place that I don't really like love so much. You know what I'm saying? And so that that kind of fucks with me a little bit because I have a lot of regret and a lot of, a lot of trauma that I've never processed. and a lot of stuff that like, you know, the idea that you can see the things that I saw and live through the things that I lived through and that a lot of other people have lived through in this underworld of addiction, this opiate epidemic that exists in our country, this underworld that people are just forgotten about and discarded.

I call them the forgotten ones, these mothers, warriors, you know, people coming back, veterans of war, brothers, sisters, our people are people, you know, that are living on the streets and living under bridges and going and buying, buying, you know, buying, you know, water on welfare, which I did, you know, on state insurance and going to these hospitals and going to these places and no one gives a fuck about them.

Nobody's checking in on them. Families have forgotten about them because it's been years and years and they've given up on them. These people are just, you know, so beating down and existing just to exist. And they don't even know what to do with themselves, bro. And having been through that, And the things that you see when you watch, you know, people sell their bodies to get, you know, enough money to feed their vein, you know, and watching that fucking blood going to the needle or watching them light that spoon or watching them hit that crack rock and pulling fucking chunks of their teeth out.

Or I was digging in my nose with a rusty blade pulling fucking cartilage and blood out of my fucking nose and, you know, laying in the street and having my whole shit ripped open and blood, you know, my spleen taken out. I got broken my femur. I got problems all over my body. That shit doesn't just go away. You know, you make a million dollars. You make $5 million. You buy a fucking dope house. You get a cool whip.

You get a bunch of hot chicks to hang out with. And you have this assumption that you're going to fucking manipulate your way. You're going to comfort zone your way out of these demons and these terrors that fucking come to you at night or when you're alone. And it's not real. That's not real. That's not a. that's not an actual escape. That's not how you actually, you know, forget about all the funerals you went to.

That's not how you forget about, you know, the phone calls to your mom or, again, you know, having your mom give you a pillow to go out into the streets when you were 17 because people were throwing bricks through your windows and threatening your sister's life and shit. Like all that shit that you lived your life, you got to process that shit. And lately, I think I spent so much time trying to just make this content. Like, yo, get a hot chick. Go review a burger. Interview Kevin Hart.

Go on this trip. Make sure Logan has this or whatever. And he's good. You know, and... On one hand, it encourages you to live a very full life. But at the same time, it doesn't really encourage you to take care of yourself. And just direction. And just direction.

Like, I put out that book. I put out the Fifth Vital in 2020. It has sold so many copies. I mean, really, really. meaning like hundreds of thousands of trackable copies, audio books, e-books, like just,

it was a wild, wild, number one Amazon bestselling, USA Today bestselling success. And all the other shit I've done, every video, every, you know,

cool thing that I've done, every cool car, all this shit that is very similar to everything everybody else has done and I know that. So I don't really like really turn it into anything like where I'm trying to pat myself on the show. older. All of that shit pales in comparison to that project for me because that project is my life.

I wrote that book myself by hand for years, crying my fucking eyes out, writing every single page of that book until I handed it to Riley and she edited it and proofread it and turned it into what ended up being published, except for the last chapter, which is untouched. That's just purely my writing. And that book is so important. And I always value. you the time that I that I spend with people who know me through that that book versus YouTube Logan, Lana, whatever because they come up to me and they're crying before we even start speaking. Really?

Wow. Like, yo, you, you saved my life. Like, I got your book in rehab when I was three days clean and I'm now a fucking investment banker in Miami because of your book. And I say, it's not because of my book. And they said, that's what started this journey. And it gives me goosebumps to really, really not only hear that, but to really truly believe that I've impacted people on that fucking level. And, you know, that's been one of the hardest things for me to get any kind of feedback or criticism on because that's my story.

That's my life. That's not a piece of content. That is shit that I really, really lived through. And I put my heart and soul into telling stories about smoking crack when my grandfather begged me down. stairs to get him off off off off off the ground when he was dying of parkinson's and cancer and i was fucking tweaking in the fucking attic because i was so fucked up on drugs i wanted to fucking kill myself you know what i'm saying and i didn't leave that story out no matter how much it hurt me because i knew that it was going to help somebody understand how dark that fucking path is and also helped

him understand that there's a way out because maybe your shit isn't as dark as that but i was there i would live that shit and i that shit sticks with me it's in my fucking bones bro you know what i'm saying and now when you could see somebody like that step out and make it and and and really excel in life that's a really powerful story. It is. So that so that book to me is my is my whole being and the reason I bring it up is because I haven't done enough in that space and that fucks with me. I feel guilty right now because I feel like I read the book up until the point where you

started to get clean and then I kind of like lost a little bit of interest because I already know I got to read it's like, but the fucking harrowing tales of drug addiction were a little bit, like I forgot to keep reading it once it hit that more positive note, which is fucked up. I'm going to go take a piss and give a ream like a minute to. Yeah, yeah. All right. So I know you guys are kind of like no jumper because we've been through our host of a fair share of host. Yeah.

I know you guys. Who was the first two hosts that you had? Me, Logan, Spencer. Spencer. And then you had someone else after Spencer. I forget his name. We had Mac after. Yep.

And then George. And then George. All right. Yep. Three goes. Yeah. So I kind of have no jump really. Yeah.

Always rotating. I wasn't even in here last time you was here. Yeah. All right. So what happened with the George situation? I got to ask that because that's what the people want to know. Yeah. I can't remember the last time we like talked about.

I know we've been, you know, we've been, I think the easiest way to explain it is I think that there's just a, there just was a difference in style, a difference. a difference in approach, a difference in people. You know what I'm saying? And I think there were just, I think we were just very different people. And George's, I've sung his praises every show I've ever done. And he potentially one of the purest,

you know, most grounded, conservative, family-oriented, loving people in the world, like just a overall sweetheart. And I think like, I think, like, you know, to an extent almost like, I don't want to say he was like almost too pure for the show. But like, but like, he just, he would just get like abused by like, by like certain guests.

And it was kind of like fucked because you got to understand. And I wasn't the Shaq episode or Bobby Lee? Bobby like, like you got to understand it. And I think a part of that was based on like seating and also like the fact that he, me and Logan are such big personality so by way of him not being able to like super vocalize he kind of he kind of like perceivably assumed the role of like the beta which he wasn't but like guess would when they would get like kind of uncomfortable or whatever a conversation they would turn and kind of pick on them but the thing that was fucked up about it was that

like I got a lot of negative feedback like coming out of the breakdown there and I always had George's back. Like if you watch any of the episodes where there was like a problem, like I was generally arguing with George's side in mind. You know what I'm saying? Like that the, the, the, the, Christianity episode, like, me and George's call, we had a, me and George had Bible reading nights where he would call me and read from the Bible. Like, like, this, this idea, I was really like villain, uh, vilified in this whole thing as well, where it really wasn't like a, uh, point your finger at one person type of situation. I think it was just a, you know, people were just kind of, moving in different directions.

And by the way, like, kudos to him. He's got his own show now. It's going great. He's had great guests on. He's been able to do something more aligned with his purpose in life, which is what we were just talking about. Whereas, you know, I'm not doing everything that I can be for the addiction community that I really owe that too. And I need to do a better job of.

And he's doing a great job now of telling, you know, the story of Christianity and family. Yeah, because that was a running joke that he was too Christian to be a part of the show. No, that's not. It just, that's just not the case. You just kept bringing it up at random-ass times from no reason. It's kind of awkward when you believe in a fucking made-up guy in the sky and nobody else does. And then they're just bringing it up all the time. From me as an atheist, that's my perspective.

Do this shit right now. It's too much. You're over-whooping. You're over-wooping, George. No, but I'm saying. You ain't going to do all that with JC, bro. Oh, yeah. Shout out.

No, no, no, no. No, no, no. You ain't going to turn a Mexican. Yolly. I'm a foo. What am I going to do? I mean, you, you, I obviously, you can say whatever you want. But, but like, but like, you know, I'm a, I am a Christian and I do, I do, I know,

and I do, uh, devote a lot of my, I'm an imperfect Christian, by the way, because I know even me saying that someone from the red pill community is going to get mad about it. But, um, but, but I do believe in Christ. I grew up going to Sunday school every week, going to church every week, going to Bible camp. Um, and I'm just not as vocal about it. And I don't mean that in a negative way towards. anybody who is. I just, it's just not as big of a, I don't know, it's just not as big of my content. But that's why there's Christian rock and why there's Christian rap is because the majority of

people who listen to rock music, if there's a whole song about God, they're not going to listen to it. Because to people who aren't religious, this sounds like a bunch of woo-woo, and we just don't want to hear it. So that's why I think. Or that are religious in the way that I am, which is maybe a little bit, I think the way that he's explaining it is semi-representative of what the issue was was just like, I think, you know, there was just a little bit of misalignment between the message that we were trying to tell. Like it was a very,

and Logan Paul is satanic. You know, he's just, he is of the Illuminati. Like, this is just not his world. Logan, I said very nice things about you on the rest of the podcast, so when this is Cliff or TikTok, don't blame it. No, he'll agree with it. Oh, okay.

He'll agree with it. He'll 100% claim to be a member of the, a thousand percent. That's my faith, by the way, that's one of my favorite, storylines right now coming out of like this whole like you know revamp of like mainstream media and just like the social media world and shit is like these um these like red bill like detectives who have like really figured things out oh i mean they have oh i mean they have everything

like they they worship you know their god who is conier who also has every i mean he coney has everything figured out like i in their mind this man has really tapped into the ethos of what's controlling this world. Okay, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he knows everything that's going on with the Illuminati. They're every, and by the way,

once you get to that point, you got to be real careful because they're coming for you. They don't like you. You know what I'm saying? Like, they're really, like, gunning for you, bro. You know, and like, you don't want to,

is that going on Snapchat? I don't even have, like, a real reason. to put it on Snapchat because I don't have this crazy monetization scam I don't want to I don't want to even for a second act like like he won't even update his Instagram story because he sees it as unpaid labor at this point because he's making so much fucking money off all the Snapchat shit now I will just tag me in something I don't want to I don't want to act for a second like that shit's not partially correct we yeah we live in a corrupt fucking space like real bad actors right like fucked up people dude okay I hear things you know what I'm saying no I don't mean us in

LA specifically, although there is a lot of fucking weird shit that goes on here too. I'll get into that in a second. But, but like, there is a lot of fucked up shit that goes on. There's a lot of corporate greed. There's a lot of, like, you know, maneuvering and puppeteering that goes on. But like, bro, this, this Illuminati and, like, situation, like this secret society and also, even more so, this idea, I'm just going to go ahead and say that any of these motherfuckers, have a clue what they're talking about.

Like, if you're tuning in and you're like, yo, today Alex Jones is going to tell me his updates on what's new in the world, you think this fucking meatball of a human has any fucking idea what is going on at the highest levels of fucking government and secret society that, by the way, I'm not saying doesn't exist.

All I'm saying is none of these people know what they're talking about. Is that crazy to imagine that you're being served garbage by these people who are just creating these fantastic stories for you to leach onto. At one point it was Sandy Hook didn't happen. And then it was this. And then it was that.

They're turning the frogs gay. Like imagine you wake up in the morning and you're that void of purpose in life that you're going to watch a segment on the government turning the frogs gay. Well, a lot of these people, they crave excitement. and entertainment to such an extent that to have a normal sane media diet, like being someone who just pays for a New York Times membership and you wake up every morning and you scroll through the 20 or 30 stories of the day and you read a couple of them and that's your media diet for the day. That's way too boring for a lot of people out here who want to hear conspiracies. They want to

be told that the experts are all wrong and that actually the things that you haven't been able to achieve in your life are a result of a vast global conspiracy, which is true to a certain extent. Because it is true that the elites have created a system in which you are probably never going to be able to make it in life and they are being massively enriched by your labor. That is true. But there's a lot of people who just really crave that kind of excitement. And in comparison, when you've been brought up on social media and all of the followers and all of the rewards have been given to people who very much are taking part in this game

of entertaining you above all else. How do you go and just become someone who's just going to... And people watching this right now are saying, Adam, how dare you trust the New York Times? I see all kinds of stuff with the New York Times that I disagree with when I read it on a daily basis. But at the same time, I can mostly admit that they seem like they are doing things in pursuit of the truth

and that Alex Jones just simply does not qualify. Okay, okay, I will take the counter on this one just to have the conversation at the very least. Listen, mainstream media is as corrupt as anything else. I think that that's factually correct when you look at, especially when you look at entities like CNN or Fox News. The corruption comes from the incentives with the viewers, mostly, I would say, because it creates a hunt for a 24-7 news cycle.

Well, it's just how do you ascertain which news outlet is the least biased, right? because that's where I want to get my news from. Like the idea of, like, if there's anybody on the right or left that thinks that Fox News or CNN are reliable news stations, especially only the opposite of is non-reliable, but mine's good. No, CNN is a woke liberal station that will promote these stories, but Fox News always gets, if you're that stupid, if you are that fucking stupid to believe that Fox News does not pander

directly to the semi-fringe right and then CNN panders directly to the semi-woke left, you're fucking moron. And nothing's going to help you. I go to AP. A lot of times I watch BBC. I went to say BBC,

and then I looked and I was like, wait a second, yeah, what the fuck? No, but there's a lot of things. I'm Jason Love reporting for BBC. Like who, you know what I'm saying? But there's a lot of things where I don't necessarily have this conflicted perspective. Like, for instance,

when Russia had their near coop with the guy from the Wagner group, whose name, I'm not going to try to say Pagosian or whatever the fuck his name was. And it was potentially Russia being overtaken in that moment. And what did I do? I do have to call you all. I went to New York Times and I looked at what they were publishing and I felt like I very much got a sense of what was going on that was much more accurate than what I was reading on Twitter.

And I felt like when I saw Fox News' coverage of what was going on in Russia at that time, I got like a relatively incoherent and, you know, a viewpoint that clearly didn't want to trigger or upset the large percentage of Republicans who believe that Ukraine is actually very, very bad and that Russia is actually fine. How the fuck did that happen? That's been one of the biggest, that's been, and I do want to call you out on coop as opposed to coup. I will say, yeah, because you made it into a two-door car as opposed to a military procedure.

Damn it. I'm trying to appeal to my audience. Also, I don't think knows the difference. The way it's spelled. when the fuck did we switch up with Russia bro this is all new to me last time I checked before all this started that was our biggest enemy in the world

like like if you're a true conservative American America real you know fucking by the way Mississippi fucking Maryland Crawfish motherfucking conservative American you hate Russia right Russia cold war Russia, our enemy, our sworn enemy of the whole world that we, that we, they had nukes pointed

at us from, from, from Cuba, unless that's a conspiracy, Bay of Pigs invasion, like all of this fucking shit, Fidel Castro, communism. But Biden is giving money to the Ukrainians, so therefore the Ukrainians must be bad. No, because, because I'm sitting there and I'm thinking to myself, and this is not me saying, and I'm just so curious as to how the fuck we got to this point is, no one has a problem with the this is just a thought I had and you can you can people can fucking

slay me on if they want no one has a problem with the $5 trillion you know military spending that we're doing every year understand whatever the number is right understand the it is the little trinkets that we're giving to Ukraine which is a lot it's still a lot of money

is nothing compared to this military super complex that we spend our money on every year with the sole intent of at one point going toe to toe with Russia or China or the combined superpower that is Russia and China. That is why we're buying all these weapons. So when we then go underhandedly, secretly, whatever, create a situation where we could have someone else fight that war for us and we pay them for weapons for them to do it. Everyone starts flipping out. I could be so far off base here. Like this is the part. me giving this disclaimer that won't make it to TikTok,

this could be so wrong. Everything I just said could be so wrong, so please correct me as pleasantly as possible. You don't have to call me a fucking idiot. I'm saying maybe I don't get it. But as far as I was concerned, the whole time coming up, motherfuckers were learning to hide under desks in their classrooms

with their hands over their head. People had gas masks, underground bunkers waiting for a Russian nuke to take out the United States. How the fuck are we all of a sudden homies with them? I got people on on every social media like, yo, Putin's the real boss that motherfuckers should have strived to be. But this is like what this is a perversion of reality that happens when you make Donald Trump the president because this is all downstream from that. Clearly.

They want a strong man president. And if we can't have one in our country, we at least want Russia to have one. Even if it's at the detriment of our country. That's where it all comes. That's where it all comes from. And I want and just as one more time, like that doesn't mean fucking. that I fuck with Biden, dude. The dude is fucking so old, bro.

I'm sliding for Biden. Biden's had a great presidency, and I'm actually working on my pro-Biden cheat sheet that I'm going to be using at times like this. Stop. He's so old, bro. But that's the only bad thing you could say about him is the fact that he's fragile and he's about to die. Yes, that's a huge bad thing.

Bro, bro, if you have to open a casket for someone to roll out of the president for 15 minutes before they fall down, that's problematic. I agree that we should have a strong leader in this country. I personally wish it was somebody other than the two people that we've been given. That's all I'm going to say. Even the Vivek dude, I haven't talked to him in person yet. I haven't seen him yet, but he seems like a carbon printout of Trump.

As soon as I saw Jake Paul dancing with him on Twitter, I was like, I can't. If you're going to Kodak bop with Jake Paul, then I'm just, I'm not here for it. Why can't we just get a likable fucking dude? That's just like a- No such thing. Nobody can handle the scrutiny of becoming president. Look at Obama. Like the most well-behaved motherfucker you ever seen in your entire life. And what, what happened?

Like it came up with conspiracies the entire time that he was in fucking office. Do you know the biggest conspiracy? Because, because keep in mind, like, fuck the mainstream news for a second. The home of conspiracy is Twitter. Twitter, you. Certainly the least regulated at this point as well. Twitter pre-Elon was terrible. But now, bro, it is, it is, it is downright dangerous.

I mean, it's a, it truly is a dangerous place where people are making real world physical threats of violence. and those are going untapped. Like, like, real deal, fucked up place, right? There's a conspiracy on Twitter. And I hesitate to call it conspiracies because at one point, a conspiracy meant that it was, that it was centered in a small circle of niche morons. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that made a conspiracy. These aren't even conspiracies anymore. The real theories that have been embodied and embraced by a number of people. One of the biggest ones right now, Michelle Obama is a man That's a huge Huge theory

And they have little like nicknames They call her Big Mike It's a whole I shit you're not I shit you not It's a whole thing When I met him I think he was Big Mike Yes I was I was so

So this is a whole network Of channels that all play together About this situation I can't remember what it was I think she's like too muscular her back or something like that. And they really... She's from Oblock.

She actually is from Oblock. Yes, she is. That's where she got the muscle. The effects. So they truly believe, like in their minds, this isn't just a clout thing that Michelle Obama, the first lady of the United States of America,

is actually a man. And it was perpetrated or brought to light even more or thought of more by this interview between Tucker Carlson and this... The gay guy. The dude that said he's...

That Obama, what, sucked to say. that Obama, what, sucked his dick or something like that, right? Did coke with him and fucked him. No, smoke crack with him. Crock, right. Smoke crack with him and fucked him. And by the way, this dude, like, filed, failed, you know, lie detector tests, like, everything.

But this video got 200 plus million views on Twitter, when in reality all you have to do is watch a Twitter video for a millisecond as you scroll past and it counts as a view. They're not actually views. Probably like 1% of the total that it lists. Yeah, maybe like maybe 20, could have got 20 million. potentially, right? 10%. If they were being judged by like YouTube standards

where I'm pretty sure you have to watch this for like 30 seconds. Yeah, exactly. So, so it's just such a rampant place. And like it's like, so the question then comes down to it once again, like Jay-Z said, a wise man told me don't argue with fools because people from a distance can't tell who is who. So, so, so am I going to go out there and spend my day going to gum against these people who, by the way, like I mean this, I wholeheartedly mean this shit.

Like statistically, let's go head to head some of these people. I mean this. I would love to sit down in front of a doctor with you guys. Some of these people who have IQs probably in the 60s and 70s. These are some of the dumbest motherfucking, you know, mouth-breathing morons on the world. The idea that I'm going to then go and try to write size or recreate this world and argue a side against these people at a 131 IQ, I'm going to go up against these fucking idiots. in what world does that make sense? You know your IQ?

Yeah, do IQ tests? I still do IQ tests all the time. I've never done one. I'll talk about him. If I had a 139, I would be yelling that shit from the mountains. Not that high. There's definitely people in our space that would smoke me. There's definitely, I mean, I would assume Beast probably has a super high IQ.

I've said it a million times. Like, you could say whatever you want to me. I'm always down for trivia. I'm always down for any kind of... I've seen you saying that. I consider that kind of a weakness for me, though. Like, I don't have like the random normal, pop culture trivia. I'm a sponge, bro. You have a really good memory, huh? For interesting

shit like that, if you asked me like what I ate for lunch yesterday, I probably wouldn't be able to tell you. Right. But I'm sure it was like sharkies or Takaya. Sharkies. I love Sharkies. Takaya. What do you get there? They have this like corn, corn bowl. I never get that. I never get the one, like the regular bowl. Fuego. Yeah, it's like a chiquita. Yeah. It's all over L.A. Yeah. Mexican food and even faux Mexican food in L.A. It's like fancy fake Chipotle. It's like better than Chipoli, but it's still, it's like not real Mexican food.

It's some shit for rich white people. Have you ever thought about leaving, L.A.? No, because my entire family's here, my girl's entire family's here. I own a house here. My kid is now going to school here. So basically I have no freedom and I can never leave. So that's kind of weird. You think am I leaving?

Yeah, I had some shit happen. Austin, Texas, go work at the mothership. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I would. I love Austin, but yeah, I've just, I've seen some stuff in a way. What shit happened? I don't know what I'm talking about. Yeah, not really.

You've had to deal with some of the negative aspects of living in LA. Yeah, yeah. So I've been a little bit, I love L.A. I love California. I really do. And I love the people here. I've got real good friends here. My family's all in the East Coast.

The tax rate here is stupid. Like, that's got to be the big, the only thing ever fucks with you a little bit is like bro the amount of money we pay and stay tax is insane i go to other places i go to hawaii and i'm like overwhelmed by how serene it is and how beautiful it is and how happy and simplified everything feels i go i stay in manhattan or brooklyn and i'm electrified by the energy of the city but it's like here is just the best place to be to do this and i'm 40 years old almost and it's like i just can't escape the fact that this is the best use of my time and that I have to see how far I can take this shit

in terms of what I'm doing. Can we talk about your situation for a minute? Go crazy. Okay, all right, all right, all right. I just, like, I saw all this shit happening, right? And like, I guess, like, I get to look at it from a bit of a different angle, right? As somebody who, like I said earlier,

dip my toes in the space. I dated Lana, post, you know, post all of her theatrics. She was out of the space. She was, you know, very much with me, and that was it. And we never had any kind of problems or allegations or any of that type of shit along the lines of like, you know, fucking anybody else. They were all, actually, the allegations were against me, not heard. So, but they were untrue.

So I dip my toes in it a little bit. And I often times thought about, like, the idea of, like, being with someone who was able to, or who's actively performing. Yeah, actively performing these sex acts, right? So, but I knew you and I knew that you, you were allowed to like, you were just fucking everybody, bro. Well, on camera, in a controlled environment. Correct, correct. So I was just like, damn, like, this is like an interesting scenario. Because as someone who, like, at certain times in my life, like, I was pretty much, like, sure that I would have to be in, like, an open relationship.

Because, like, I just, you know, it's a bit of work for me. It can be. I'm going to, I don't fuck up. But if anything, I'll just run. You know what I'm saying? But now I've got a pretty good lid on that, on that, you know, the side of my life. So when I was watching all this happen, I just really didn't know what to think. I was, I was so.

I was so, like, shocked by the decision to, by how, like, seemingly cool you were with it going to, like, the farthest aspect. Like, it wasn't like you had warmed her up with, like, what's that kid's name, like El Nino super, the, like, little Spanish dude, like, with the big dick. He's, like, El Nino. No, no, no. Sounds great. I would love to meet him. No, but like you just, like, you center straight to the, to the, like, the galaxy of BBC. You know what I'm saying?

Like, to me, like, it was like, you put it on a spaceship. You center into a fucking black hole into an abyss. The way to ease into it from our perspective would have been like me, her and another guy doing a scene or us doing maybe even like a swap scene with like another couple or something. Those would have been. Like some true K type shit. Right. That would have been a bit more of a way for you to ease your way into it. You're a fuck true K.

I've not That makes one of us I'm not I was lucky enough to experience this the other day I was hanging out with her and Melissa Yeah Love Melissa Stratton

Yeah this was just prior to me and I mean me and my girl Okay You know But yeah I mean we decided to go in a direction That was more aimed at making it as viral as possible Which it then ended up being like drastically more viral than we thought it was going to be Which made that seem a little silly

Yeah Okay. Okay. So do you have any, truly, do you have any regrets about the decision? No. No, that was great. It was like one of the best months in my life. From a financial standpoint. Or just from an attention standpoint. And it was just like, it was just fun. It was funny. To me, me and her, like, we were incapable of doing anything. Like, we would normally, like, get home at night and watch a movie or watch some TV or watch some YouTube videos together or whatever. And instead we're just like studying our fucking. fucking phones, just laughing our asses off at memes and showing each other like all the shit that people were saying about it and stuff. Like we really had a lot of fun with it. There were moments where I was maybe like unsure about what I had done.

Like, oh, is this a little too much? Was this a little too crazy? Am I playing with fire a little too much here? But for the most part, no, I mean, I don't, I wouldn't say that. And none of that has carried over to where I'm at now. I don't have any resentment about the fact that this took place, which is what a lot of people were really warning me about is maybe this seems good now. but as time goes by you're going to end up regretting this and this is going to have reverberations throughout your relationship.

I don't think about it. Like almost at all. That was like the Tate angle because I watched that. That was a cool. That was cool that you guys got to chat and shit. And it was weird that he was so respectful and nice about it. But then the headlines were all like, Andrew Tate destroys out of 22. And I'm kind of like, okay.

But like I feel like the story of anything is the fact that he was like weirdly receptive and like didn't want to pass judgment on it, if anything. super nice about it. He was like, you know, not my, not my type cup of tea, but he's like, you know, he's like, but, you know, I wouldn't do it for myself, but yeah, uh, you know, you two are a grown adult, you make your own decisions and then you'll live on from there. But what I personally believe is that is going to create a problem in your relationship, whether it's subconsciously or somewhere in the future where maybe she has seen what it's like to be with someone else. And now she feels that she has the ability to go and maybe do something like that again. It's like the annotate, uh, AI. It's like, it was been programmed.

to speak exactly like him. You can tell that you've watched so much of this content. I'm about to say you're a fan. No, no, now do Tristan. You could get a, not can't. I can't. Yeah, it's very similar. But anyways, but yeah, he was.

He was super, like, humbled and just, like, nice about the whole situation. But, but, like, okay, so, was there, and there was no, there was, I, I saw somewhere that you had, like, a little bit of an issue, like, getting back into the, like, you thought about it a little bit from a sexual standpoint when you got back into it. or like was it um i mean it was a little weird just like you know if i had to identify the thing that made me feel a little bit weird after it happened was just that like realization of oh shit she fucked another dude with a really big dick and she liked it which as a guy you just don't want to think about that that's like a very that she liked it yeah of course she told me she liked

well i mean i was like how was it yeah she said she liked it but i mean i would compare it to her the same thing. There's been times where she watched me fuck a girl in front of her and she could tell that this girl's vagina was just sending me through the fucking roof or that this girl's top.

Some of these girls, and I know you got ahead from someone too, in the porn world, you will experience head that is not like that 99% of women on earth are given out. And I would put my girl

towards the top percentile of that category, but she's watched me get ahead. from Carmen Karma and Adriana Chechik and these other chicks who realistically have like crazy unlocking job mechanisms. It's like the equivalent of like Usain Bolt in a race. It's like, yeah, this motherfucker was born to do this shit. He's genetically made for it. Isn't that funny? Because people always want to ask me questions about like about the sex. And like honestly, okay, so like I never want to like seem braggy, right, about shit. But like outside of the industry,

like I probably put together like possibly like the greatest roster of like in that space. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm not even going to get into all the names. But like I can put some pieces together in my head. It's very impressive. Even like weird ones that were like off the grid type shit and like just it, I had a lot of fun back. Probably like 80% overlaps with my experiences in the field, but mine have been on camera. And I've thought about it.

So that's cooler if you ask me. Well, and I've thought about it. Because it comes more from the real love for fucking. Yeah. Yeah. Facts. And so. And so, but the one thing I want to say is like, it's funny because sex, sex, like actual, like intercourse is such a, like, chemistry driven event.

Where you, you, the two people involved, like when they, women are on them, all women, whether they claim to be subc, or only subconsciously or whatever, are driven by a real physiological or psychological or psychological connection to the person they're having sex with. that is not able to be faked, replicated, whatever. Men are much more instinct and driven by, you know, quick acting, decision making and so on and so forth. So they could just be really horny and whatever. It's fine. But the idea that two people have this locking chemistry is what really creates powerful sexual intercourse

where both people are extremely satisfied. And that involves a lot more than just dick and vagina. It's hand placement, ass, hips, where this is going, what I'm saying to you, What I'm holding on to? Am I, is my hand on your neck? Is it pulling your hair a little bit? Like, what's going on in the bedroom?

There's a lot of tactics to really create great sex. So when people ask me, they're like, yo, oh, like, was Lana? Was Emily Willis? Like, which one of these girls was like the best sex you ever had? My answer is always, it's not anybody in the industry. It's not someone in the industry. It's whoever I was, it's whoever I was really clicking with at the time where we were on a level together. We had really gotten and know each other to a point.

Like we had this real connection like you and Lena, I'm sure, have that had that type of, you know, out-of-body sex. Now, the reason I say that is because head is the opposite. Head is a mechanical situation where only one person, the man, the horny, non-physiological or psychologically attached man has to be getting pleasure out of the situation. The woman is simply going through a tactic. She's not feeling anything, you know, maybe a little turn on. But there are women who turn dome into an art form.

When they have the web of spit and their web. Whipping it around like they're making like artisanal ice cream. That's what I'm getting into. Like you said, the girls in the space, what can you even say? I mean, it really is like, like, not to get like too graphic, but there's really, there's no way not to. The first time I, fuck, there's a spit that is produced deep in the throat that is not like the spit that is in the mouth. Bile. this is so bad but but like you just said it creates a a palpably like hangable spit the average woman

if she was giving head with this thing floating around on the dick she would vomit she would not want anything to do with it's it's it's and and the the fuck that shit bro if alex fucking cooper is able to fully describe the gluck gluck luck luck nine thousand for her female audience there's no reason we can't fucking, I can't talk about this shit and feel comfortable. I think that no one's even listening to us. YouTube's, uh, judges will be gone by now. Yeah, they're going.

All right. So, so you're right. Like, bro, I'm just trying to think right now, it's really hard, like, in a committed relationship to, like, give out a specific kudos award. Because I feel like that's going to really cause me trouble. But like, but like, yes, like, I think it's just like a practice makes perfect type of thing.

Like, they're, they're willing to, like, do shit. that's like outside. But that's just one small piece of relationship. And well, I've seen my girl give me head with other girls. And then a week later I get head for my girl again. And she's giving head like the other girl. He's like picking up little things like here and there,

like over and over. She's just figuring stuff out. It's a beautiful thing. Yeah. So fine. If that's where I end up rolling out because as you just saw, I was kind of tiptoeing around that conversation for obvious reasons. But yes,

if you are locked into a relationship with a guy and you do get a chance, I'm not, I never tell anybody to watch anything they're comfortable with that ever but if you want to try to pick up some tactics I'm I don't think you should be anybody should be mad about that you know what I'm saying?

Like it's it's I don't think it's like a rocket science situation but damn dude like some people are just fucking I mean a lot of people just couldn't comprehend or wrap their head around the fact that I chose to do that because they're like you already have money you're already doing fine. Yeah yeah yeah. Why would you choose to do the craziest thing

that we can think of in order to get what more famous? more money. And I guess like part of it when I started YouTube, I've always just been attracted to the idea of doing the more extreme thing, you know, on social media or whatever. I did the, I just took acid and I remember that. I tripped on acid in the woods vlog. I did the threesome vlogs before like anybody had ever done that. I'm just reviewing it on camera, whatever, like all these weird things. And like to me, I guess I just saw it as like a challenge of like, oh, like, you know, this seems kind of fair that I let her fuck however many guys.

but some number of guys as a result of what I've done on camera. And then also just realizing that like, just kind of knowing that I wouldn't care that much. But also knowing that I would care somewhat, but being willing to kind of like face my fear on that and do the thing that nobody else is willing to do, just like the same way that I want to interview the booty warrior. The guy from the boondocks, he was like a,

he was a guy who was in prison, Fleece Johnson, he was in prison for many years, had a whole shitload of different guys. he was fucking and like he was on the news for having so many boyfriends in prison and stuff. And I heard DJ Vlad say that he wouldn't interview him because he considered him a serial rapist. I'm kind of up for the challenge. Yeah.

I mean, I mean, the idea of sitting with someone is I don't believe is a co-sign. You know what I'm saying? I mean, we had Alex Jones on our show at a time when he was pretty universally hated. YouTube gave us a lot of slack for that. Then was pulled the shit pulled our channel.

They did. Yeah. Wow. I didn't know that. So and and, and, and, you know, I'm not,

I'm not by any means agreeing with, with his, his overall sentiment or anything, but the idea that no one, this has been the struggle with being any, any kind of like anti-free speech or pro-censorship, is the idea of placing anyone in a silo is certainly a scary idea.

Like, like, cause then they build a base and, and they go unchecked. So it's like, so like censorship is tricky because once you do that, you're putting someone into a place of comfortability with their own audience that they can do whatever they want. At least if you leave them in the open specimen or in the open atmosphere,

could be checked by by everyone yeah did you beat the cuck allegations did you did you get a boner ever thinking about the situation oh yeah me and her fucked while watching it a couple of times yeah so there's really no did that are you being serious yeah yeah no true i mean i just like wanted to see it when she got the first draft or whatever and i was like let let's watch it and then we're watching it and then we start fucking see see see this is the thing with that was that's true right yeah he's heard me say this before i'm sure okay okay okay okay okay that's gay no that's not

as Andrew would say I'm not doing it again I got it so good last time you know you're your own person do what you want maybe it's not but I do want to say this once again bringing it back full circle

to people just having different views on life you have your views on life you're a liberal liver you're a liberal liver and and the internet and social media was not what created swingers

Like this shit has been around since the beginning of time Right, because you're around the Hollywood elites and inner circles And I'm sure you've heard quite a bit about this, right? So that's where I'm going with that. But it's like, dude, like go back all the way to BC, go back to the Roman ages, whatever you want to go back to. I'm sure there was kings doing this fucked up shit. And like people's minds are fucked up,

especially when you start to, and this is where it gets dangerous with porn and with everything, especially when you start to overindulge in in any one activity because it becomes very common, it becomes very commonplace for you. So the idea that one of these, you know, for example, Dylan Danis subscribers at 19 years old, who has never, you know, ever even seen a boob in real life,

like they're just pure, what is like, in-cell, like just, you know, they're whatever, right? Like they've never gotten a piece of pussy in their life. To them, the idea of even putting a tip into a, a vagina is the most magical thing ever. And nothing will ever become boring about that. And as soon as they get their hands on one, they're going to fall in love and they're going to settle down.

And as long as that girl hasn't ever kissed another man, they will live happily until the end of time. But the problem is, and this is a bad thing about porn and sex in general, is once you start to do it all the time and you fuck everybody in the world, you start to get bored of it. and then you have to start exploring shit and this is where some of the weird shit starts to happen and like

I've seen you know semblance of it for me for me there's always been enough I can do inside the bedroom to spice things up to keep me excited you know what I'm saying like there's fun stuff you do and also like now I'm moved into an area where I'm creating real meaningful

psychological relationships so now I'm getting into this like sex well-being in love type of thing that's way better in the long run yeah for sure but some dudes go in the opposite direction Ben, I mean, obviously a ton of public Kanye allegations. You know what I'm saying? I mean, shit, puff daddy, dude.

Like, you look at some of these guys that were, like, kind of, like, crowned heterosexual men. And, like, you know, there's, you guys are looking at him. Like, you don't know about this stuff. No, you're talking about, like, the Diddy rumors about. Well, the Diddy shit, I don't believe it. I don't know if it's even a rumor. Like, doesn't Did he have a man? I don't know him, too.

But, I mean, I've definitely heard that he's zesty over there. the years. Is that the word that we're using now? And what about, and what about Kahn? Hip hop replaced gay with Zesty a couple months ago. What about Kanda? You guys never heard any of that stuff? Oh, you hear, but the, like you just said with Did he, I don't know whom to have a man, but we heard

of shit that he has seen in the past. There's a few other dudes that I can think of in the game where people have told me they're gay. I'm not going to lie. I was having a conversation with someone the other day and they told me that a rapper, that we all know who it is. Rema might have been standing there, so he might already know what I'm talking about, is a former killer.

and be gay. And I'm like, oh, so now I know that about this one guy. He's gay and he's got bodies. He's a gay murderer. I mean, that's just like really, there was a weird feeling to find out these two facts simultaneously about someone that I have been familiar with for many years. Leave the other two names, the names I brought up just, you know, out of curiosity out of it. But like, from a more macro standpoint, there's a lot of weird shit that goes on when people

reach the apex where they have fucked every vagina. I don't even feel like I've scratched the surface of actually doing weird shit because me and her have discussed swinging or going to swingers parties or doing, you know, just different kind of stuff. Like all we ever, all we've done is like a little bit of shit on camera, you know? Like it's on camera. Like it's for the masses. It's actually like seems way different to me than if me and her were, you know, hooking up with another guy involved in private life. Because then that's all about pleasure and enjoyment. Doing it on camera is kind of different

because there's a big ass amount of money attached to it that it's just kind of hard for me to separate. But it is, I mean, it is worth noting for anybody who truly does want to live that conservative traditional conventional lifestyle that, like, yes, like, you know, maybe that is what promiscuity could potentially lead to. You know, I'm open to all viewpoints.

I'm not closed off to anything. And definitely, and I certainly appreciate, and to be completely honest, with you are and I'm somewhat envious of these of these true uh pleasured conservatives who can match up with a woman and and and and and and and and you know really um don't struggle at all with attachment issues or or or any of that type of stuff you know i mean kudos to those people and i don't want to poison poison that well by any means but to act like that stuff doesn't exist in the world or or didn't exist from the beginning of time is is is wild to me so um but uh

Yeah, another thing on the sex side, this seems pretty Illuminati. And so that's why I think it's an interesting time to bring it up. Dude, I got this. I've been fucking with these peptides. Yeah, what is that? I don't know anything about it. Yeah. Been fucking with these peptides, bro.

How is that? Well, I'll tell you, it's like this because. I've never even good about it. I'm a bad podcasting. You know how, like, you know how, like, people think, like, that, There's like a party. No, there's not even, not that, but like, there's probably a party Friday night where, like, John Legend's holding the baby and somebody else is, like, cutting their leg open and they're just dripping the blood all. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's what they think, like, is happening. But there actually, it's just a bunch of dudes doing peptides? Yes. Really? Well, I don't know if the Legend on Legend party's happening or not. I've never been invited to it. And killing babies. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or, like, goats or whatever the fuck they supposedly do. But, but pet, they are doing peptides. So, okay, so listen. So like the first peptide, the first like big one was NAD, right? And everybody was fucking. And they're like, Emily Willis does NAD, like a bunch of people do it. It's supposed to regenerate cell growth and really and really like bring a bunch of youthful cell regeneration to your body.

So basically you, some people microinject it. Some people get bags of it once, you know, once a week, whatever. It's pretty expensive. But basically it regrow, it elongates your DNA helix. which which shortens over time and that's how you end up dying. This, by the way, once again, anybody can fact check this and tell me where I'm messing up. But basically, it helps regenerate cell growth in your body,

speed it, make it more efficient. So it started with this NAD, right? And then I'm going to this doctor. I'm getting the NAD. Then I was, you know, I started doing a little bit of testosterone because my number was a little low. So I layered that and I'm, you know, a little shot to the ass, whatever, right? And I'm like, dude, am I Illuminati now?

You know what I'm saying? Like, have I become like an elite elitist like pagan or what do they call? Like, no, you're just a guy injecting testosterone into his ass. So then, okay, that makes sense. I know a lot of guys like that. They're not illuminati. So then, okay, because I want to make sure that we're clear because I don't want those allegations. Which full disclosure, I have shot testosterone into my ass, but I was like 21 and I had ballooned up to

280 pounds and I got really into bodybuilding. And I basically like wanted to lose all the fat while holding on. to my muscle at the time. So this was like almost 20 years ago. So I just want to throw that out there. Well, you were doing a lot probably. Not a lot. Because my dose is time.

It's so small. It's just enough to just, okay, because basically, okay. So you don't have worries about what it might be like if you get off it? No, I do. And that's why that sucks. And I hate any kind of dependency. But let me- Microdosing testosterone sounds like a really good idea, though.

Yes. Because I was doing a lot and I was wilding the fuck out. Like I was trying, I fought a crackhead on the street. No, no, no, no. Crackhead said something to me. I fucking started fighting them on the street. We're rolling around. on the ground. Well, you could do that with any test

level, I feel like. Yeah, oh, that should have to be wild. Like, we could go do that right now. Yeah. We just go outside. But, but, but, but, but basically, your testosterone level is between 400 and I think like 1,200 is like your, is like your, your, your respectable, like,

poles of the two, you know, testosterone, right? And when I went in, I was at, at, at, like, 38, like, I made, it should have been at like 650 or some shit and I was at like 540. I wasn't even that far off. So I started taking these like micros But I popped up to like dude At one point I was at like 1150

And I was like really trying to fuck And like I was just like When you're on a bunch of tests You're fucking trying to bang everything right When I did steroids Oh my God I was trying to fuck Yeah you're always trying to fuck and yes So it so it like wakes you up

And it like revitalizes you but basically what you have to do Is you got to get your dose right So then I kept going down Now my dose is only I'm on 100 milligrams a week Of test sippianate Okay which is, I do two a week of point two.

It's so little, bro. Or 0.25. It comes out to a half a CC total, which is 100 milligrams. So that's what I'm on now. And it's been good. I feel good. I'm kind of wake up with vitality

and like lust for life and so on and so forth. My mind's a little bit clear. But I do think about the idea of getting it off it sometimes, but honestly, like my dose is very low. Like I can just wean off of it. I got off heroin, so. I'm just worried that if I, were to start doing that, that in terms of filming the porn, that if I were to get off of it,

because when I got off of steroids that last time, when I was 21, it was like, I didn't think about my dick for a week at a time. Like, you just lose that sex drive so hard when you come off it. Now, you take the estrogen and you try to do it right and everything, but I'm kind of scared of that experience, of like experiencing a high and then a low. Well, the plan is if you are micro at such a low level that you're just going to stay on it. Yeah, that's what Dan Billsarian told me. got me a little worried.

I'm like, damn, so you want me to do it forever? Just because we talked about it. But he's also, he's definitely on more than me. A lot, you know what I'm saying?

So like mine, like yes, I could probably get it. So anyways, so then I went on that, got on that little NAD here and there. Then I started, then they started bringing me like,

yo, try CJC for sleep for REM cycle. And then I fucking, you know, you're going to the refrigerator and your jab in your stomach every night before you go to bed. I didn't really do that for very long,

but it like helps your REM sleep, right? So you end up going in the fridge you just see like all these peptides. And by the way, this is like every like, I'm not calling myself one, but this is like every rich motherfucker's refrigerator. This isn't like some like just me type shit. Like when you say it like that,

you're making me feel okay about eventually doing it. So I like that. No, talk to your medical professionals, talk to your doctors, talk to your people, see what's right for you. This isn't medical advice. It's just me talking about personal experience. I know some doctors who will just give you whatever the fuck you want.

I don't know how much talking about is going to matter. It was more of a disclaimer for cover my. But anyway, so, So last week, my doctors tell me about this thing. Yo, bro, it's always like some new shit. Yo, bro. Do you hear about this PT-141? You hear about this shit?

And I'm like, no, what are you talking about? He's like, yeah, man. It's like, that other shit that you're doing for the DNA? And I was like, what do you mean? So there's this new peptide called PT-141. Same situation as CJC. Subcutaneous needle. It's like an insulin needle, like a tiny baby fucking jam it in, right?

I'm doing the peptide deep dive when I go. 30 minutes. before sex. So I tried this with my... Fuck, I don't even want to say this about it. I tried this. I tried this with a sexual partner, right? Recently.

And, you know, there's no confusion with me over, like, Bluchew and shit like that. I've been obviously probably the biggest promoter of Bluetooth, a huge seldenafil guy, like, lover of all that, you know, performance enhancement in the bedroom. Right. Because honestly, like, why do I want to show up unprepared when the motherfucker I'm up against is going to take going all out you know what I'm saying like people are people are going to

the bedroom prepared nowadays you know what I'm saying whether it's one way or another and I'm not saying they should or have to or whatever but but you know like people are rolling in they're ready to rock bro however they do it whether it's honey you know people are taking that royal honey people are doing this people are doing that whatever you've done the honey I've tried everything bro the honey I didn't the only like real proven one is like sylennepil and tadalphil which is cealcine Viagra. Can you just read what it says right here? Mandingo Hall fame, Adam 22, the Jason Lee Show,

2023. That's a gay man right there. He gave me that award. Why? I don't know. It was kind of weird. Especially considering my wife got digged down by another man's mandingo this year. That's when he chose to give me the award. You should get the Cuck Award of 2024. That would make more sense.

I don't know if he had the confidence to give me the Cuck Award. But he gave you the Mandingo Award. I don't know. But continue. So I take this PT-141 the other night, right? The problem is you get a little flush. Your face gets flush. It's weird. Also, anytime you administer anything to yourself with a needle is kind of strange. You get used to it real fast with the testosterone.

Yeah. But you still always like, but you're always just like, dude, I'm not, I shouldn't be doing this to myself. This is unnatural. You got all that blubber on your ass. It's easy to jam this. But this is your stomach.

Oh, yeah. I've done that too. With the growth hormone. Oh, I used to do growth hormone too. H-CHH, yeah. So it's just a little strange. So I do it. I'm like, you know, 30 minutes later,

my face starts getting real red. And then, bro, basically what it does is it works in your brain, unlike Sildenafil, which is just, which basically just widens your vessels in your penis to allow for better blood flow. Because that's what, that's what Sildenophil and Tidalphil, Fyaggar and Sialis both do. They, is it dialy or whatever the opposite is? They widen your blood vessels so more blood is able to enter your penis, right? and get stuck there.

As we age, those blood vessels become constricted or filled with calcium, who the fuck knows, right? So that's why older men have trouble in the bedroom, right? It's going to happen to people. It's like an Andrew Huberman podcast all of a sudden. 50s or 60s. Great guy, right? So at some point in your life, you're going to be like,

oh, shit, like I'm going to have to figure this out, right? It shouldn't, you know, hopefully you're not having that problem early on, but like some people even there, too, right? In the 20s. But anyways, so I try this and, basically it works on actual sexual receptors in your brain and it works on men and women if you had put me the other night head to head versus johnny sins i would have won really 100% 100% because you were postant it was my massive rod baseline my baseline is is at

porn actor quality like i could i've talked to you about this before I could go into the space. I really truly believe that. You never seen your cock. It's just now knowing what you know about what I know about you as a cuck. I can't show it to you here on the show. I wish I had seen it before then. I missed out of my window. I mean,

I have some videos with yeah, that would be great. Fuck, I'll show you something after. Thanks, thanks. Thanks. So very gay. Baseline. Very zesty. Well, no, because it's me and girls. A lot of people in my space would call that zesty. These gangbangers, you wouldn't believe it.

so so does that so if you so if you watch man on woman porn that's that's zesty I don't think THF Bezoo would approve of you sending me a video of you fucking a girl we can consult with the THF board yeah so now I can't show it to

until I get clearance yeah yeah I'm gonna tap in who'ski might be cool with it I don't know what about what about Crip Mac would yeah I've seen him fucking but he didn't show me the videos of him fucking they were like leaked without

his permission. Yeah, if you texted the crew mac, he would. He would probably be pretty upset with me. I don't fuck with that. Yeah. Yeah, he wouldn't be. He's funny, he's funny, bro. He's a great man.

He's funny, dude. Yeah, you should. We have some great character. I would love for him to make an appearance when we have a vlog. How about that? 100%, too. I could do it this fucking week,

you know, we can all easy. Remo hangs out, and Remo's in the field. Well, because there's a big, he's ready to die. There's a big food festival this weekend. I would love for you. Bring Crimack. But you know what he cannot eat. What?

Think about a hamburger. Think about the thing that goes right next to it. Fries. You can't even say that. Don't say that around him. He's from 55th Street, and that's what his enemies

diss him with. What's their saying? What's their saying? I'm 55th. Because I didn't know this, but I recently realized that all these sets have their own sayings. I don't know.

Like a dude came up to me, bro, at catch and he said neighbors don't need no favors. Let's keep it nifty on 50s. Is that a thing? One of the things that he, says all the time. But I don't know if everyone's saying that or if you're just crickmack. Yeah, it's hard to tell.

And I tried to, because then the rest of the night goes on and I'm walking around out late, neighbors don't need no favors. And Kifah was like, yo, maybe just stop like. Okay. That's one of the questions I have for you. What's your relationship with Kifah? That's the dude. That's my brother. That's my brother.

Like, real talk, like, there's a lot of people that I come in contact. Roddy Rich's manager. And more. I was with Roddy in the studio last week. Fucking listening to the new album. The shit is so fire he's so tapped in this year like not going out not doing nothing i was with him in wherever the fucking studio is at he's got a point to prove 100% 100% don't y'all count me out i'm roddy fucking rich no and he's got some shit some real real like like crazy unexpected like shit like crazy

shit on there like there's some dope shit on there he's gone playboy cardi no but it's where his nails panning no no no but one thing not because he you know roddy's not with any of that type shit. Roddy's like real, a real motherfucker. Right. So, so I get to come into contact,

like I said, way earlier in the show with a lot of cool people. I get to meet dope-ass people. And I get to break bread with some people and some people become associates. And over the years, some people have become brothers to me. Kifa is my brother.

Like, I really mean that, like, we might as well be blood. Like, real talk. Like, he, he, family and to how shit goes. Like when I find myself in a in a dark spot, I always call Kifa.

Because also, Kifa really comes from it. You know what I'm saying? Like I would assume you, you know whose father is and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm in the dark. Well, I don't know if that's my story to tell. But, but, but, but, but Kifa is really, really, really like that dude. And I love that, love that dude. Um, I've known him for years and we speak every day we work out together and he's super tapped in. I see you hanging out with him and I'm like, fuck, like I meet so many dope people. And then because I'm on a constant fucking conveyor belt of dope people that I'm having these long ass conversations with on camera, I just don't form the relationships that I should with people, you know? And I'm seeing that. And I'm like,

look at Mike being an actual fucking human being and being friends with some random guy in the music industry that he met. That's dope. But he's not, No, but he's not, but the part that I'm, like, not getting into because, like, you should, you could have Keefe on the show, like, real talk, like, and actually hear from him. The, the, the, the thing I'm not telling, because it's not my story is, like, Kifa is, is, is L.A., like, royalty, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, like, the reason he's where he is now is because Nipsey put him on. Like, like, he's, he's, he's like, he's, not like, you know, he did the work, you know what I'm saying, but Nipsey. He was a round.

Nipsey, like, heavy. And that's why he's tight with, that's why he was tight with Nipsey. That's why, you know, he's tight with Waze. He's tight with Snoop. Like a lot of those dudes that came on our show, Snoop Wizz, all those dudes that came on the show, Keefa got all them. Kifa got all them.

Those are all Kifa, you know, put together on, you know, appearances because he's so tapped into the space with, you know, he's with YGs, with Travis, with everybody. He's with everybody. And they fuck with him not on some industry shit because he's really, like a street, like real dude, real genuine, like, lovable fucking person. I love that.

There's another person that's going viral, not Kifa. but Kee-Feedee-D. Have you seen... No, I got to hear about anything. I just Googled Kifa's father or Kifah's dad, and it was all K-Feed-D. So I'm wondering, I'm like, his dad is K-V-D? That's a weird one.

So you haven't seen any of the K-PED-D stuff? All right, so... He killed Tupac. He was one of the guys in the car that... Oh, yeah, yeah. He was the dude that got... He just got arrested. Uh-huh.

27 years later for the murder of Tupac. And he was originally a witness, right? He was in the car. They already knew he was a driver, but he did a proffer agreement. because he got caught up on a drug case. And proffer agreement basically allows you to have a conversation with the cops and tell them all this information and not be able to be charged in relationship to that conversation,

even though that conversation then eventually became public and they basically made a documentary using the audio from this conversation. So he ended up writing a book and going on a ton of different podcasts and doing all these interviews where he basically aired out basically the fact that he went and got the gun, that he was in the car. he stopped short of saying that he fired the gun but he basically made it out as if he was an accessory to it

and he was completely involved in it as if the proffer agreement made it so that he couldn't be charged for this which is not the case because he is in fact being charged with it now and we don't really know 100% what evidence they have against him presumably it's enough that they think

they can secure a conviction. Insane. I mean what a fucking wild turn of events on on potentially you know the most important case. 26 years since Park died is one of the most important things of all time And it's weird almost that it's not getting It's getting a bunch of attention

But not maybe the amount you would expect For how huge Tupac was it is, you know I think once the trial starts And now, right now they're all actually trying to figure out If it's going to be like a trial that we can watch I think that's when more Oz will actually pick up on it But that was one of the craziest stories in a minute Like what the fuck? All the self-snitching

But with that self-snitching, how do you feel about all the self-snitching and then the snitching that's going on with like the current state of hip hop because we were talking out there you said you're not fucking with the current state of rap. I don't know, but it has nothing to do with the snitching. Snitching just in general with it. I mean, I guess like in a small way it does.

I mean, obviously like, you know, I had what I had to say about the whole six nine scenario. And honestly, you know, going back on that a little bit, I don't know if I don't know if I would still say the same stuff now. Having kind of learned a little bit more about that case specifically. but like you're seeing you're seeing a lot of it with like YSL obviously Gunna's out

now and it put on a show the other night and like I don't think anybody gives a fuck bro I don't think anyone cares about any of that shit anymore I think code wise like for at least at least like outside LA and New York like it seems like I don't even know if in New York

it really matters it matters so much to a lot of people I think the difference with Gunna is that A has he made a comeback? Yes, because he made a hit song. Now, is he going to be able to have the same loyal, dedicated fan base if he doesn't have a hit song on his next project? That to me is kind of like remains to be seen. The snitching thing is still huge with anybody who sees himself as like a street dude. I think that the reason why Gunna is also getting a pass too,

or people seem a bit more forgiving is because what he did just is very dissimilar to what 6-9 did. Nothing that Gunna really said is going to be used against him in court. I got stug or anything. It's just not as serious. There's levels. He's like a two and six nine was like a ten. Yeah, what I saw from the gun and shit was like it was it almost, it didn't seem like it was going to help anyone do anything that wasn't already.

Like dude, that, that is your goal. That is your goal as it pertains to conversations with investigators. Like when I saw that, like when you're, when you talk to investigators, like you're, when you're in that world, you're purposely trying to give.

them whatever possible to get to get out without giving them anything at all. It's all smoking mirrors. You know what I'm saying? So what did he, what did he even say? It was like, it was like, he wasn't willing to like say that.

No, they asked him four different questions, but one of the main questions that everyone was calling them a snitch is because they asked him, they said, do you agree that people in the organization WISL have committed crimes? And he said, yes, man.

But, but here's my question. Like, this is not to like clear him nor does my opinion on it matter at all but like but like you're sitting there you're gonna right who's trying to create an appearance of rapport with the investigators right because that's going to help you in the end right knowing that these motherfuckers have wiretap helicopter police informants snitch millions of fucking documents and on the crimes that have been committed by YSL.

And it comes down to a question that they're asking you like, do you think your gang committed crime? Do you think water is wet is what they're asked? Do you think that water is water? That's what they're asking them. And him answering that question, yes or no, could decide his fate. Do you know what I'm saying? I'm not, I'm not, it's not like they're like,

okay, we have no idea who pulled the trigger. If you tell us who did, it will let you off. That's some real snick shit. But keep in mind that this gang code or this like, non-snitching code encompasses so many stupid ideas that it even says that you can't tell on a dead person who is not capable of even being charged with it so like when you hear boosie have a conversation with it i mean there's just no logic to it it's just 100 percent you can't do it you should be happy to sit in prison for the rest of your life it doesn't matter like you know and and that to me is

is the thing that seems a little bit more out of style now is this like no snitching absolutism Real code. Real code. Like real code. And that's why, by the way, that's just coming. That was just me having an opinion on it. Like, I understand. I understand the code is you're not saying shit.

I'm not supposed to say shit. If you're saying anything, it's suck my fucking dick. And they asked you a question, yo, like, where were you on Friday night? It was fucking your wife. Like, that's the code. That's the code. That's how it's supposed to be done. But to your point, who's actually still doing that, whatever?

To me, it's just like, if you're giving up info that already exists, Sorry, fuck that actually Real general high level It's not even info If you're just making a statement A statement or answering a question like that I don't know Like I said, it's not my place to be

To be commenting on But but The reason why I'm not The reason the hip-hop thing is just a sound thing For me I don't know I don't know what it is It's like Dude I said the other day that Jay made Kanye

On Twitter Man I almost got fucked up I did get fucked up But he did He did Yeah 100% he would have been almost like as gigantic as he is right now without jay in my opinion i don't think so and i i realize he gave him a huge contribution i just think where yay was at his at that moment in his

career he would have like linked up with any fucking artist in the game and made massive undeniable hits but but that j z stamp at the time yeah made him cool when he was coming in the game as a nerd i just feel like he would have got where he was going regardless so yes so okay He was that driven. Is that motivated? No, 100%. This isn't me trying to take anything out of Kanye's portfolio. The dude is one of the most legendary creators in the history of art and music in any kind.

But the idea of saying that Jay, who at the time was, there ain't even kings like now, like there were when Jay was at his height. That doesn't exist. It's too democratized. Jay was the absolute fucking. king of the world at that point, right? And this is a time period where nobody got on without a huge co-signed from a big star. There was no social media.

There was no internet. There was no, oh, let me hit up some Atlanta rappers and see if they want my shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, you could get it to him, but it would be through A&R through the label. But if you signed a Jay-Z, everybody in the game would instantaneously pay attention to you.

And who you were, right? You know what I'm saying? So like, maybe like then obviously, like, wasn't too much longer than 50 kind of comes up and like democratizes it a little bit. and then it starts to trickle out from there. But like, dude, like 99, 2000, that was a JZ controlled universe. Right?

So like, and even like a little bit there for after, like, when did, when did, when did, when did, uh, hard not? He did, he did, who, did Kanye do Hard Knock Life. No, right? He did the blueprint. He did the blueprint. 2001. Came out on 9-11. Correct.

9-11. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Isn't that nuts? And Fabulous his first album. So like, what's the first, what's the first big, yeah? produced track on Blueprint. I forget.

It was just Blades and him all over it. Blueprint 2 had an actual verse of Kanye rapping. And I remember hearing it and instantly like looking at the track list and having to figure out who the fuck this guy was. Because he really like took it up. I forget what the song was called, but he took that opportunity on Blueprint 2. Even though it was like track 28.

No, wasn't it the last song? It was like the last song where it was like Jay's like talking them in the beginning of the song. Fuck. I don't look at it. Oh my God. bro he's like fuck you Kanye is it that one isn't it that song where he's got like the little narrative in the beginning of the song let's get uh nah nah nah nah nah nah no that's

we'll go all the way to the end why do i feel like it's been so long since it was like well i'm not even seeing it on here no because that's it that's from uh the blueprint two was a double album why does it only oh that's why yeah the bounce featuring Kanye west oh yeah i was way dude the song I was just singing was a fucking was a graduation song that's all you get that was a long time all I'm saying is this Started out as a producer for Jay right Then drops through the wire and I always remember where I was when I heard through the wire Like I was sitting on I was sitting on a computer had to go to work at Costco that day and I heard this song and I was like yo this track right here is A very special song for whatever reason like I just knew that it was a fucking special track right

but like I don't get those type of feelings towards any songs anymore you know what I'm saying like when's the last time you heard a song that you were just like that you were so like enthralled by that you were just so like I'm gonna be honest with you I think you're like aging out of a bit you got to like stay more on it and listen to more new artists and shit in order to even be able to be capable of having those experiences where you do get moved by some shit because there are NBA young boys songs that have come on the past couple years that have that experience, that I have that experience with, where it's like, oh, this is like one of the best songs I've heard in my life. Like, I still have that experience where I will listen to rap songs all the time. And I'm like, this is amazing. I'm just such a shit, bro, I'm just such a, I'm not the right person of this conversation. Because I'll tell you why. I'm too stuck in my genre of hip hop.

Like, like I go through, do you know who I listen to? This is not going to make any sense. Like right now I'm listening to Layson. You know what I'm saying? But like, bro, nobody, no TikTok kid is going to be like, oh, you're rocking with Larry June or Dom Kennedy or shit like that. Like, who else is even on my, on my shit right now? I got three Larry June suicide boys.

Like, like, it's not shit like, I'm trying to think of who the last. What about, do you guys know who Destroy Lonely is? I was literally about to ask you about him. Yeah, like I got to. Yeah, for sure. For sure. I got a bunch of his songs on. So, like, technically that, that...

You're a true crime fan? Like, talk ass? Yeah. Or, like, documentaries or anything? Nah, because I don't really get on. I feel like the reason why I, like, drill music kind of overlaps with why I might also enjoy, like, some true crime type shit, because it's like you're listening to music,

but you're also kind of, like, decoding, like, a gang mystery while you're at it. Well, yeah, because I like, like, key Glock. Yeah. I listen to, like, some of that type of stuff. But it's, as you could tell, like, it's all... The majority of it is, like, very, like, street shit. Can you spend, like, like, like, a day? with King Vaughn, like only listen to King Vaughn for 24 hours and then report back to me?

Also, you have to watch a three-hour documentary about it. Were you listening to King Vaughn at the song? Or? I mean, I know a couple tracks. Magic King Vaughn was on Impulsive. Yeah, we even had it, bro, bro, because I would love, obviously, like, would love to have some of those type of episodes, but, like, it's just, I don't think it's Logan's, like, Cup of Tea.

I got some good clickbait for you right here. I was watching, like, a YouTuber documentary, obviously. We live in the commentary reaction video channel world. And I heard somebody just say, impulsive has fallen off and that it used to be huge and now it's not huge. And I heard that and I was like, oh, I wasn't really aware that that was a narrative. I didn't really bother to go dig through the social blade or anything.

But how would you react to that statement? Do you feel like there's any truth to that? When it came out, there was a lot less podcasts. Yeah, I think views have certainly gone elsewhere. I think there's, I think at the end of the day, there's, there's almost like a legacy running period for that type of, like, super clout infused, like, ferocious viewing. Eventually, you're going to end up in a place where you just are relying on your true audience. You know, I mean, shit, we'll have episode. It just is really, that's the other thing.

It's really episodically rated and based on, on per episode performance. It's like we could do an episode that gets, you know, we did an ACON episode a couple weeks ago. We put it out a few weeks ago. How many the full interview get? Maybe like 600,000 or something like that. Pretty good, but he's done a lot of other podcasts over the last few years that I feel like, you know. The reason I bring it up is because, like, that was one of my favorite podcasts. I really mean that.

Like, Acon is a very special human, bro. Right. Like, just real good orator, spiritually driven, just smart dude, right? Knows about how to invest money, so on and so forth. Then we'll do the next week we did our Erling podcast. I think it's got like 3.2 million on it. And so we always, you know what I'm saying? And then anytime we, the thing is,

is anytime we do a boys only episode, like if we sat down and did this for an hour and a half, it always does about one to 1.4 million. Because we get to talk about, because like, imagine it like this, if you have a guest on, that's not like this super engaged, you know, social media guests, like an ACON, for example,

who people know from SmackDat and like some other shit, but like he hasn't exactly been going crazy in 2020. you know what I'm saying? Only the people that give a fuck about what he has to say are going to listen to that, right? We'll try to click bait our way around it. Like we asked ACON about Lana Rhodes. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you know, you could do your best, but at the end of the day, it's, you can only, you can only have so many high profile fucking guests on until eventually you just got to make content. Some of it's going to get, you know, 700,000, views, whatever. Like, bro, you'll see the same thing with Full Send. Full Send was doing, you know,

3 million, 2 million every episode. Now they've got episodes that do a million and then a slow but surely it'll drop down on to under that. You know what I'm saying? Like it's the audience changes. They move in other directions. They want new formats. They want new shit.

They just stop watching content. Algorithms change. The YouTube algorithm has gotten brutal. Right. The YouTube algorithm has gotten brutal, which sucks because that's where I burn all my energy. I don't post nothing on TikTok. I don't post nothing.

Nothing anywhere except YouTube and Snapchat. That's it. And the YouTube algorithm has gotten fucked up, dude. Like really. And it's made life really fucking hard because, man, just out of nowhere, bro. That's one thing. When you see your audience trickle off and you're like, quote unquote, falling off, that's fine. Like you can make adjustments.

You do the best you can. But I hit a wall on my channel where I was getting like, I was like hitting a million like every episode every week for sure, no matter what, easy. It's sometimes more where it just went down to like 500,000. and like out of nowhere. And then I was just trying to, and now I'm climbing my way kind of back out of me. And you feel like that was like an algorithmic thing at that time? Yeah, something like that.

You want to know some fucked up shit? You stop putting Lana Rose in the thumbnails and you got less views? No, that had already happened. That's when I was at $5 million. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. I think it has something to do with the Illuminati. Oh, well, I can have a word with them for you.

No, because, no, let me really tell you why. I mean that. Not the Illuminati, but the order of things. I went to Israel, went to Tel Aviv. And as you guys know, they got some, they got some drama, right? Oh, that's, with neighboring Palestine, right?

Like, real drama. Mm-hmm. And so I put out these two videos that were fucking sick, Israeli videos, like dope-ass shit. Like, I'm in the dead sea. Dude, the thumbnail is me and Summer Ray in the dead sea, her fucking popping ass out,

like all the, right things. Like, I investigated the Dead Sea with Sumeret. But the downvotes on the two Israeli videos were so much higher than my normal downvotes. Two weeks in a row, I usually get 99.2% likes on my videos because, as you said earlier, everybody likes them. They're fun, positive, great times. These weeks were like 93%. And after those two weeks, my channel just really started to act crazy bro and i started to have like bro i'd never had a video under 700 000 in ages bro never never never bro and now i got videos that i'm putting out with like 400 000 views on them so you're saying the jews went in there and tinkered with it oh yeah right

the jews were trying to help okay yeah i missed that a little deep into the podcast i missed who was doing what palestinians that's kind of scary though but no no but i but i don't know we'll see what happens. Anyways. Are you a part of the prom do? Like, do you make money of prom? What the fuck is this? Did you get him to do all this shit?

Nah. This is fox, bro. He's got his own research. No, I'm not. I promote Prime because I'm friends with Logan and I enjoy the product and, you know, I've been told that I will be made whole as a result of my effort. Efforts. One day, he's just going to randomly give you 5% ownership.

No. 5% ownership is like. fucking it's like 800 million dollars right fair enough yeah no I'm just gonna wake up and have a little bit more money okay yeah it sucks I fought for it yeah you've you tried to be yeah early yeah for sure but there's only so much to go around well it's so closely guarded there's no no one has it's not like it's not like oh the side men have some and this person and Mike just got left out like it's literally five people right and that's it you know what I'm

saying so like nobody else is fucking like private equity's out Like nobody's getting into this bitch. Like this thing's selling $8 billion, whatever the fuck it is. Everybody gets their money and never talks about money ever again, right? So, you know, but I tried. I was like, dude, like I'm doing a lot of lifting here.

I'm doing more than most people. I've been a part of this shit for a long time. Like, Jeff's taking care of he's hit. Like, why am I left out type shit? You know what I'm saying? And it was, yo, you'll be taken care of. But it's just like, like, for example, the other fucked up thing is like,

people don't really understand this about equity in companies. but if I took even a small percentage of equity in that company that has a major valuation right now, I'd be tax liable for it now. So, like, in reality, it's like, I don't know. So you could be on the hook for a huge amount of money before you actually cash out? They have this thing called I-9, which is like a way to prolong. But for the most part, yeah, if you take an equitable position in a brand or a company, you're technically liable. for that tax now. Man, your lawyer is over whooping.

My lawyers are crazy, bro. Or accountant, rather. And my accountants. And they're super, super expensive. Yeah. Well, just not getting audited is a great thing. I got audited. I overpay.

I pay so. They just hit me for another, like, 60s, 8 or something that was left over from 2020. Last, I pay so much. I'm seven figures. Like, every year. Like, I pay so much fucking money taxes because I hate the IRS. You ever have a sexual? no

that's what I gotta do I gotta go do that she has an she has like an ongoing beef with oh yeah yeah major yeah and I'm very I actually have been told not to talk about it yeah oh yeah by her more like by Lena

like don't get involved maybe we just bleep that it's a whole thing just bleep the name I said yeah yeah because I have a because I have a loyalty to her yeah yeah I love her too but I'm not I'm still gonna fuck her ass yeah I've never had a

I've never had a badness That would that fit into the code Yeah no I mean no but that's one thing Once we started booking these like live orgies on the plug talk channel That's where you start realizing there's a lot of people who don't get along because it's like oh we're gonna have this one dude That I like hell of beef in this space This one guy on the show oh no this girl and this girl hate him and this girl hates him because this girl hates him and boom He's he's off the list there's a lot of there's a lot of drop all the girls I ever fucked with I swear to

are all the least drama. Lana was, Lana was a little bit of drama just by way of, I think she's another one of those, like sits on the throne type, take shots and also is kind of, but like, bro,

all these, M's cool, dude, M is cool as fuck. Why did Lana lose like 40 pounds since you broke up? What's going on? She's got a whole new look.

She's out of control, bro. Hey, you got real teeth, right? Yeah. That's tight that we have real teeth. Because it's like everybody. I'm missing a whole lunch on this side. Oh,

really? Damn. I thought you had like good, no, like I have a great smile. There's like so few people, though, like, when I was thinking about the other day, I'm like, I'm one of the only people I know that has, like, straight teeth that are real teeth.

Like, there's so many fake teeth motherfuckers out here these days. Yeah, it looks like they have wooden teeth. I mean, a lot of times. It looks a lot better than if they were to keep their shitty teeth, right? I like talking about the girls. Keep going. Emily has a new movie coming out. Really?

Yeah. That's sick. Chloe Cherry breaking down doors. All these porn girls are going to be famous actresses. Yeah, Emily, Emily's got a movie coming out called Divinity with, uh, created by, uh, fuck, was it Soderberg or something like that?

She was, she was actually at, this was crazy to me. I was at Sundance and she was at Sundance premiere in her movie, which was sick. That was cool. So she's got this movie coming out, Bella Thorne's in it, fucking, um, one of the rap chicks is in it. Uh, what's her name? Um, was she dating like Nause or something?

Oh, Glorilla. No, no, not, not, no, not No, not, not sexy red Or whatever the girl with the big Afro is What's the chick with the Afro? Ice, icy. Ice spicy. Ice, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. Yo, you're really out of it if you don't know ice spice.

No, this chick's name is like, I can't remember. Tuesday, Nause? No, no, no. No, no, no. Anyways, divinity is coming out, so she's cool. I'm just thinking of all the cool girls. Dude, like, who else? Gina Vantina, maybe the one of the coolest.

she was so dope so dope bro she was just had such a cool vibe to her she had a boyfriend for years now yeah i was with her before all that before all that back in like the riley days before riley was and obviously riley's like the mother like the queen of like all of it because you want to know what's the most legendary thing is that people always ask me what's the best sexing you ever filmed or the hottest experience or whatever there was one night in miami where i fucked riley lena jr uh Gina Valentina and Abby Maley at the same time. And the only reason why I was able to have that experience is because Riley was trying to kick it with Logan and she had fucked Logan like the night before.

And then he was ghosting her because he was on to bigger and better things probably knowing him. He's always got something new in the bag, right? The old Logan. Not the new Logan is a great loyal guy. And I didn't know you yet, but I'm hearing about Mike and I'm hearing about like, oh, so Mike was there and Mike was doing this. and I'm just thinking,

I don't know what fucking Mike. I never heard of Mike. And, but that's crazy that the only reason why I had that orgy was because Riley got left on red that night with Logan. Yeah, and so it ended up being good for you. It worked out for me.

Dude, Abby, I mean, dude, I remember all, I had that whole, even like, dude,

I had a whole, I think I would, like, have you ever worked with Gabby Carter? No. She's like, she's like, so,

it's funny because, like, way, like, off the, the grid. Yeah. I feel like especially,

because all I wanted to say about her was She was dope as fuck too in real life. Like, it's just crazy because, like, once O.F. happened, like, they almost became so democratized that they could be, like, socially removed from the whole scene while still making the contact. You know what I'm saying? Like, they don't have to play in the same waters. I've seen a lot of girls basically, like, vanish from the L.A. scene, but still keep doing the thing in suburbia. Facts. That's a big thing.

But, you know, sometimes I still, I, they're all cool chicks, bro. That's the thing. That's all I'm trying to get at is, like, they, you know, I always remember those days hanging out with all. them, like even like Alina Lopez, like all of them were just dope-ass, like they'll start playing guitar and they got talents left and right. But isn't it funny that you and I spend a lot of time around porn stars and think that they are largely very cool down earth, good people? But then you just have the sector of dudes on the internet who have never been around any of them to any extent and are so convinced that this is the most wicked thing on earth and that

these women are the worst people on earth. Well, the practice of it is sure, is certain. certainly up for debate. If you feel that that sex work is detrimental to society and to the male mind, that's certainly an acceptable, you know, a conversation and a dialogue for us to be having. What are the true effects of this content that's being put out? But to then, but to then, you know, really, really villainize the women because, because obviously, yes, we're susceptible to being judged for our decisions in life and the things we do. But like it just sucks because I know these girls and they are just so, they're such good people.

The majority of them. There's some that I've met that I automatically did not fucking like those ones I won't bring up. But like, but like the majority of these girls are just so sweet and just down to earth. And like, you know, like it just all I ever wanted to do with them was honestly like everybody always got into this thing where they were like, oh, he's promoting, you know, their O-F, he's promoting this. I'm like, dude, I've never made a dollar. No, I've never gotten paid any amount of money to promote anyone's sex work, whatever. I just always said, these are cool chicks and

like they're good in content. Like they're, like, Lana told me the other day, I had a conversation with Lana like maybe like five or six days ago because she'll still hit me occasionally to just like chat or whatever. Tell her to unblock one of the plug on social media. I'm sure she'll get tagged in it. But I've been trying to stop just by way of it. of over respect for my new relationship to stop talking to her because I can understand how that can be, especially with someone like Lana Rhodes could be a thing for a new relationship. But the last time I talked to her, she like kind of thanked me for the content that we shot together.

And, you know, this whole time, like me thinking back, like, damn, bro, my career is like, people want to say Logan made me. Like, I had 230,000 after like years with Logan. I was with Lana for like six months. I gained two million followers on every channel. You know what I'm saying? Like she was, she was the real,

now Logan introduced me to her, but she was like truly the real like relationship, you know, that built the original channel, the original followership, right? So I'm always like, y'all have this real debt of gratitude to her, but she turned and said,

thank you to me because she was like, you showed the world, you know, that I was more than that. You know what I'm saying? That I wasn't human. And that's always been my goal.

I've been like, yo, I'm going to make content with these girls because I know that they are, humans. And like, what if, what if even one of these girls, and this isn't shitting on sex work, right? But like, but like the industry is nasty. You know the real industry itself. Maybe not the place you play where you, where you self-managed, but like the industry itself is nasty. There's a lot of nasty shit that goes on. And if I felt like if I could show a girl the idea

that they can get out of that space, then that's good. You know what I'm saying? That's a good thing. Like Lana had a Brazzar's contract When me and her first started talking She had a browser's contract on the table For like I don't remember what it was It was like several hundred thousand dollars To like get back in It was very introductory

Like it was gonna be like her first thing And you shut this down Much to the detriment of all these men out there Guys I'm sorry he fucked you over Yeah damn Well it wasn't that I shut it down I just told her I was like yo like we're doing this content together Like you know like she was already on the podcast

Like she we had done a couple things together And I noticed that she had like kind of spunky, cool personality. Do you have to do that? And then it wasn't long after that. You know, like a lot of things happened. She started her own show. Then, like, now fucking Alexander Wang has her walking on the fucking runway in New,

Paris Fashion Week. Wow. You know, she's doing shit with other big, you know, brands and that are willing to kind of embrace these ex-workers. Obviously, like, you're seeing what's going on with Mia Khalifa. Like, she's made, like, a bunch of strides in the fashion space. And so Lana's kind of tried to do the same thing, too. and like all the chicks fuck with her

the what's name Julia Fox had her on and all these other podcasts that she's done and so I think for me like I got such a like strangely titled as this person that was like promoting these porn stars when in reality I was hoping that I could promote the fact that they were actually people. You know.

You're a saint. I don't, that's not what I wanted. Did you say there? Because that's not what I'm looking for. But I just, you know, like I had Sneko attack in me last week saying like you promote only fans. But I never promote.

I've seen it. I never had any. Who's Lena's baby daddy? Oh, Lana's? Lana's? Lana, yeah. If you can't look at that baby and immediately know who's father, who the father is, then you're, then you, I don't know what to say to you.

It's who everyone's saying in it. Well, bro, all I'm saying is this is just look at the kid, look at the kid. Like really look at the kid's head and make a decision based on that. Blueface. It's blue face. Blueface, baby. You, yo, yo, yo, blue face is situation. Like, I don't know.

What are we, four hours now? Three hours. I gotta go fuck Gianni the Orr soon, bro. Okay, okay. I hate it. Because I want to hear your full indebt analysis. I got through you. Actually, yeah.

Are you single so you can fuck Khrushan Rock. What's that? That's his most of her. But maybe not. I know about her. Who wins KSI or Tommy Furry? No cat. It's really hard to say because KSI hasn't fought in a long time.

I'm going to let you close this up. No, no, no, no. No. Heat on my enchiladas. No, no, no, I'm leaving. I'm leaving, because I have to go also. I hate this. Joe Rogan doesn't do this. Joe Rogan would push his sex scene back.

Well, no, I mean, we're three hours deep. This is what I talk about. I talk about podcast. If anybody ever wanted to watch a 12-hour show, I can do it. I could bust out five hours, no problem right now if I didn't have to. No, it's fine. Go, because I should go. But all I was going to say was this. I, KS.I. hasn't fought in a long time.

Tommy Fury is he just beat Jake Paul, who's probably the best fighter in the space. You know, so if, let's put it like this. If KSI wins this fight, bro, he's, he's on, he at that point, he's on top, top. He's really on top. I got me in that shit. Was that Fuzi? Imagine.

There was a moment when I had Keemstar and Fusi going through that thing where I was like, is this my purpose? Like, should I just like keep a live stream going all day, every day and just let random YouTubers show up? Like, would that even work? Like, if I had leaned into that, my life could have gone. in a different direction. Completely different direction.

No drill wrap. You can have a steak deal or a kick deal. Yeah, I don't know. That's just going away, right? It's not going to be around in a couple of years. I have no idea. Shout out to the, shout out to the no jumper audience. I'm, once again, crazy all over the place.

I did the best I could to keep things on track. I will say this. If anyone watching this for any reason is in Manchester in the United Kingdom, my next 10-10 burger pop-out, because we didn't even talk about any burger stuff. My next 10-10 burger pop-up is going to be October 13th and 14th, which is fight weekend in Manchester and Great Britain. All the details will be posted on the 10-10 burger page at 10-10 burger on Instagram. You should come out.

I'm going to be there. I'm going to be serving burgers. It's going to be great. I know we were going to meet and you were going to talk about burgers, but we didn't even get a chance to. Burgers are lit. I love fucking burgers so much. And I also like that you are fully embracing your mini Dave Portnoy status with this. because like I've always thought with the burger thing like, oh, that's funny.

Like Mike is doing like the Dave Portnore Nor a pizza thing, but he's doing it with burgers. Let me ask you a question. Like, oh, he made a pizza app. Fucking, I'm making a line of pizza joints. No, let me ask you a question. Do you think, do you truly believe that this man was the first person to rate food? Bro, bro, food has been, has been rated. Movies have been rated.

Music has been rated by every person since the beginning. And you do it as part of the vlog? It's not like a Twitter clip. No, it's not even that. But on a scale of zero to 10, people have rated everything. And just because he got big rating pizza, also, we asked him about it on the show. He was completely fine. He didn't see it as like a, he probably jokingly said it the way you did because that's how Dave is.

Fucking smart ass, obviously. I think you got to own it. No, no, no. But what I'm saying is this. It wasn't like I was like, oh shit, Dave's having success over on the pizza side. Maybe I'll do it with burgers. I have a friend who literally makes like, it's almost like a cover band the way he just does TikTok's like doing the Dave Portnoy thing.

And they get like 20 views, so it's like nobody's going to have any idea who I'm talking about, but it's fucking insane. Like, but I mean, you're having a lot of success with it. So I got to think of like a food that I could go eat. Like, what the fuck am I going to eat? Burgers and pizzas are done. No, I'm not going to be another burger guy. You should try mine, bro.

I'm a burger. I would love to try it. You guys should both, no, because I'm going to do something this week in L.A. But only for, but only for like us. Oh, yeah. I'm down to do it. Let me know. Yeah.

I saw you destroying the Mr. Beesburger, and I was like, I'm glad you kept it real. But did you hit him up and be like, hey, just so you know? No, no. Because why would he give a fuck at this point, right? No, I rated it in the past. Bees came to the house or sent his team to the house with a truck, and they made it. I gave in 8.0 because it was a good burger back in the day. And this is back before I started rating like real, real good street casual burgers.

And I just went and got it at American Dream. And it may have, I mean, it was one of the worst things I've ever had in my life. It was a tragedy. Like they've had a lot of trouble with, um, with quality control. It's not beast's fault. I mean, I'm sure you're a failed business model. If I'm a hundred percent.

They're cooking in ghost kitchens. I want to know every motherfucker that ever puts their hands on my burger, bro. You know what I'm saying? What's the best burger in L.A.? Right now, it's been tricky because I think right now the top rated has been burger she wrote for a long time. And they were attributing like 50% of their business to me after I put that review out. They opened a second location.

Everything's a great double smash Oklahoma. Oh, my gosh. So it's two Wagyu beef patties, but it's got a ton of onions, Friday, and raw in it. Where is it? It's on Beverly. They've got two locations. Burgessi Row is incredible. It's a hop-skipping to jump away.

For the first time you try, it'll blow your mind. But then in Hollywood, I want to say this, there's a place called For the Win, which is my second ranked, and it may now be number one. Like I would feel more comfortable sending you all to For the Win that you would get the product because I think Burger She Road's been having a little bit of ups and down. We're like, quality was. Yeah. Really.

But it's still always, if you went there, it'll still be the best burger you ever had. Right. But I think for the win is just this hole in the wall, like Hollywood kind of like hood spot. That's just so fucking good. Maybe when I order, I say I'm a, I'm a influencer. I'm a well-known personality. Don't give me some bullshit as burger like you're going to give this guy behind me online. When you go in, point at the picture on the wall because my face is on their wall.

Oh, wow. And so just say like, oh, I know Mike. He said if I come here, like, I'm going to have the best bird. burger my life. You know what I'm saying? Or even just have me call them before you go. But I'd rather you just come eat mine. I'm going to do, I'm going to do Sunday or Thursday or Friday. Of course your ass would think of that. You're getting the cuck award. That's what she said. Mandingo Hall of Fame. Get the fuck out of here. Mike, I got to go. I got to go be a sex worker. Thank you, Rimo for hanging out here. I just keep going for. Yeah, we've got to keep going. You guys

keep going. No, no, it's good. My phone was done. I can't even. Burger she wrote. See, that's why you got to learn how to whoop. He's sitting there with his phone open. burning battery all day. My guy. Mike, my man. Thank you, Remo.

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