No Jumper - Momma Duck on Lil Durk's Trial, if Rico Recklezz Shot FBG Duck, Big Mike Shooting Her House Up

Episode Date: July 28, 2026

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We have Mama Duck in the building. What's up, Adam? Hey, Remo. And I noticed right away that you have lost a bunch of weight and you look great. Well, you said 30 pounds, I mean, that's pretty solid. Yeah, yeah. It took me two years. do it, but I did it.

That's good. You did it the healthy way, right? Yeah, very much. I wouldn't have lost it quicker than then if it wasn't a healthy way. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we could all lose weight like lush, but that's a different process. Okay, so I would like to start by opening the floor to you to just let the world know what my offenses were previous to this that made it so that we took a couple years off from being cool or sitting down on the podcast at least. Well, it was a business. It was business.

It wasn't nothing personal. It was strictly business. Then you made it personal, Adam. I ain't going to lie. You made it person. You came at me. And, you know, what was said, was said, what was there, what was did, what was done. So we passed that.

It's all good. Okay, but just for the fans, you were mad because basically you were supposed to get. You want me to break it down? Yeah, break it down. Okay. It was a hotel issue. No, it was not a hotel issue. I know.

The issue was when we talked and your management and everybody who booked the flights, my publishers, remember she had a contract for you to sign in case I didn't get paid the price that I was supposed to get paid. I don't know what happened with that, but I know when I got here, I was saying something, but before I got here, we agreed. read upon travel expenses, hotel, and $3,000, right? Oh, okay. We're going dollar a mile.

I didn't remember, but, okay. See, so you told me that you will reimburse me, the deposit that you sent me. Okay. That's how I booked the hotel. And now I asked, because I don't know nothing about LA, so I asked you, what? what would be a nice hotel. And you suggested the one that was how many minutes away that was closest to here. Okay.

So that's why I went to that hotel. But it was winding up. I had to pay the deposit money to book my flight and hotel. I was under the impression and was told that, okay, do that. and we'll reimburse you for what you spent. So that's where the confusion came in because when I got here, I was only sent $1,500 instead of the reimbursement. So that was the issue.

We got that address that she sent me everything, but I think about $478 of the reimbursement. So that was the issue. at them. It wasn't nothing else. Like, from my end, what I was told by my team was that there was a certain dollar amount that you were basically allotted for the hotel and that instead you, you were staying at the ritz that you were ordering room service. You were, you were bawling out of control.

That's what they told me. Where the receipts? It'll be on y'all be. Because we always do good business. It'll be on my bill. Now, where the receipt? I can pull it up. You want me to pull up? Then we don't. It's not.

No, I'm the queen of receipts. Really? Okay, okay. And I do this for this reason. Uh-huh. Because your word is everything. And once you let them off take your word from you, you're nothing. I actually think you and I, this might be the first time that no jumper has ever had an issue with somebody who felt like they weren't properly conversated.

And that was the problem. It wasn't that. I was not reimbursed. So basically I did a two, almost three-hour interoperated. for $1,500. It's a decent day of work. No, no. But you're supposed to get over your promise, so I don't know.

That's what I'm in this. Generally, yeah. Your words. I wish I had been more involved in this because now I feel like I'm like the in-between playing a game of telephone. It was a business venture. It was strictly business. I appreciated it.

It was needed. All my grandkids, like we needed that. Yeah. So when it didn't go like that, that's what I. issue came in that. Oh, okay. Okay. Then you went in,

so I had the rebuttal. Yeah, so what was that? Because you got escalated past. Because he said that shit, he just said, Thomas said I got the Hazz Hotel and I did that. I don't know shit about L.A. Remo and.

I might have said that, but then. So I'm only going off suggestions. I think the thing that really set it off, too, though, is that I said on some podcast, I forget I was talking to, but basically. Oh, you said I was flirting with your ass too. Which I do think that you got a little

bit of an appetite for me. I was being polite for the first time. If I was friends with you, Adam, you would have known it. Yeah? I'm just a friendly person. I'm real sociable. I thought you were feeling my white boy. No, I would have felt it if I wanted to.

I'm a married man. You wouldn't have thought I felt it because I would have felt it. You would have just took that? If that was the case, now you being messy. You know what I'm saying. And like Ruga was mad at me. for the fact that I said that you flirt with, even though I felt like I was just saying what happened.

It wasn't right. And they know that was a troll mood because they know, no offense, I don't date outside my race. Yeah, you're too old for me. Too old? I like the Y-Ns, baby. You ain't hurt.

Aren't you older than me? I heard. I say I was older than you. I say you're older than the guys I know. I feel like I am a Y-N to you. But I've been single for a long, long time, so I've been children. When you say Y-Ns, how young?

Young nobody's. I don't know. What's the youngest that you think you could deal with? The youngest that I dealt with in my life. Yeah. Or at this current day and age. I have it. I have it.

I have it. The youngest man that I messed with for the last 18 years is he was 20 when we met. And I was 35. Right. But he's 30. He's going to be 37. And you added up, you know, my age. There was a video or something where I guess you was dating somebody that duck

knew or some shit back in the day and niggas was mad at that. I guess they wanted to troll the rappers mama. Like one thing about me, my kids never cared about the preference of men that I dated long as I was happy. People didn't understand that. You know what I'm saying? And I used to always tease my kids,

well, if I could find somebody that could keep up with me my age then, I've just been by myself. So Doug wasn't upset with the guy? Wasn't in someone that he knew, or something like that? I've never mess. What incident are you talking about? It was like a viral clip of you on the phone with some guy that leaked it or something like that.

Oh my guy. You want to know why he got my YouTube took down and stuff? Same thing Cash did to Sosa. No, this was different because I was on the phone with him. Everybody know that was my voice, but I've never met this man the day in my life. But how did that situation even come together and you started talking and flirting and all that anyway? It was crazy. Crazy. I don't know. To be honest, I was, I, I, I, I, I befriended him.

Yeah. Because one day, he, you know, when Duck had his YouTube, I mean, his Twitter, and I used to, like, have my number on it. This was like in 2011, 12. And I guess the story that I got was that Liljay finessed him out of a feature. Then he wanted to do it with Duck. But I guess Duck was a little Jay friend and was like, He could have finessed them too, but he's like, I ain't going to mess with you because my boy y'n't mess with you. Yeah. Then he got the trolling Tuka, you know, he was ridiculous. He even made videos about my deceased daughter burning her bickshary.

Like, he was the biggest trove. This was after y'all started messing with each other? This was after he called himself exposing me. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because I never met the boy. I talked to him like two months, you know, on the phone back and forth. He would call sometimes and we'll be all in the house, you know, Doug, everybody would be in the house.

He'd be like, I call you back. It sounded like you got company. And I'd be like, okay, you know what I'm saying? It was just really a phone conversation. But his intentions was to troll, troll, duck. You know what I'm saying? And it wasn't nothing. We found that shit out.

Me and my kids, we got together. And we was like. That's crazy. You got to worry about that. You know, I'm like, I'm sorry. He was at me, not at him. At you. At him.

He was disappointed in me because as his mother, but I was going through some shit with my ex at the time. So the conversation was like, it was like soothing at that time. But I didn't know his intentions was to just do what he did. You know what I'm saying? I could sue him for death from him. I could do all. that. Yeah, you didn't know he was recording.

And then this, this, how, after Brick passed away, because I thought he went to jail or died. Now, remember it was from 2011, he was trolling, Dut. Now, this was before that I was having a conversation with him. But, he was trolling,

he just came, like, right after Duck Pass. In 2000, I think, I mean, not the brick. Like, 2018, 19, he just came through my inbox. I could pull it up, but I blocked them.

I mean, I mean, I have to unblock them. And I don't feel like, look, but if I, it's need, necessary, I would. And he just came through my shit like, brick. And I was like, damn, I thought she was dead on jail. That was my response,

because he had shown for years, right? And somehow I just was like, is you okay? like what's wrong with you and I start that's had a conversation so I guess he probably all this bitch think I'm her friend

or she and he had that mentality but I don't know where he'd been this is why he got my YouTube took so they're saying God that she was messing with

yeah he got my you remember my YouTube got to? Yeah I didn't realize you didn't have any more this is why no they just gave it back after three years

I just automatically got it back after they told me y'all couldn't get it back no more. I just thought I got an email because of this video. After he was trolling me, somebody sent me a video.

Somebody sent me this video. Shit, matter of fact, it was in Cam Capone DM because I sent it to him because I was, you know, chatting with him. So look, wait, this is crazy. And at this time, was he hospital? Duck the whole time?

Duck never met him. He never knew Tuka. You know, that's how you get to Duck by saying Tuck. So I guess that's why like, I don't think Duck ever met the boy, don't know him. He said, before I came to do my no-jump interview, I've never been to L.A. So how could you have had sex with me?

Like when? Did you come to Chicago? Like, when it's supposed to happen? But this is the video that I posted on my story. This him watching a train twerk, watching a man twerk. This him. So he got, yeah. So you posted it on my story on YouTube.

Yeah, wow. And you got it to now. That is pretty much porn. But on the story, I ain't there. I thought if you, like, posted like, the AI. Especially if they report you. But this was in 2002. So I don't know YouTube changed

because I see worse shit than that on YouTube. But I don't know it's just for certain people. But that is why. And then we talked and then he did that and it was so crazy because that was my twins' birthday. I told her the second, 2019. I never forget it. And I'm getting all these calls.

Then I call him. Y'all probably heard the conversation. I'm like, damn, Shari, that's what you're on. You know, you hit the conversation. to me like, but it was done. What was done was done. My kids ain't hate me no more. Like, we got through that shit.

They know their mama. You feel what I'm saying? So that was crazy. I'm glad that was over with, you know, that he probably found somebody else to stalk or do something too. Because it was crazy to me. Yeah, that's insane. Okay, I was wondering, since this is your first podcast since you sat down with 6'9, what has the reaction been to that?

Because I feel like that's got to be pretty controversial around Chicago for a variety of reasons. Yes, I always been love in Chicago, but yeah, a lot of people looked at me like, damn, you're doing shit. You make a move. I'm like, yeah, and I enjoyed it. Like, it was very enlightened. You liked him as a person? very wise. Daniel is a very wise young man.

And facts is facts. Fax is facts. Like everybody can come up with a scenario on how shit should be instead of the truth. The truth is the truth. Either you want to believe it or not. He wasn't wrong, Remo. He said a lot of shit like,

who killed your son? Some black people. Who killed all them people? Black people. people. He wasn't lying about that. But like he felt because he's Mexican, he shouldn't be saying it. It's the truth. I mean, Big Bank basically said that to him. The reason why it bothers him calling out all the Atlanta rappers for snitching and shit is because he's Mexican, which, I mean, when it comes to like, what's right and wrong, why does that matter? They just pick and choose who they want to call snitches. It's never more clear than right now. I mean, when I just feel like people morally come into their senses, like, who would pick life?

Like if, like you say, you're in the streets, you know what come with the streets. Snitches also come with the streets. Muff-knit. Like, snitches don't, ain't a part of the scenario. Yes, they are. Let's be real about it. who's going, I mean, to be stupid. So to put yourself in that situation,

those are the consequences. Either you're going to take it to the chin or you're going to come to the reality of that shit like, life, away from my kids, my mama. Like, it's something mentally, well, fuck you. So without all that weight on you, what would you tell if you were street? If you was a street nigger

and got caught up and all this stuff that's going on and everything and you had a choice to tell on somebody who will probably tell on you that did you wrong A big part of why I'm just saying

A big part of why I'm not going to enter into any criminal conspiracies is because I want to reserve the right to tell if it comes down to it. It's streets. Right, but just in general like I don't really do anything You got blue collar crimes.

Right. I'm not doing those either. It ain't about how you do it. You have a lot of people doing blue collar crimes, crams where you ain't killing nobody and getting fair time and shit as if you murdered somebody. So a crime is a crime to me. It's about I don't do jail. I was this interview a dude who got 26 years for doing fake mortgages and identity theft and shit like that.

Never heard of fly. I was locked up three weeks in 1998. And the Cook County Till, when they were script searching in one room, like 200 women, and it was horrible. It was the most degrateness, only for me to get caught for boosting clothes to end up on a deck with a lady who was getting extra. died it back to Mexico because she put her baby in the microwave. Whoa.

I'm on a deck with a woman like just a retailer like me. Where the farms at? Please get us away from these people. And it was insane and ever since then it was nothing worth the risk for me. But did six nine like, was there anyone who talked shit about you doing contact? with him that actually surprised you or that was notable to you because obviously there's going to be people hate no matter what

but is anyone that you're cool with that felt away about it that you were surprised by? No, nobody. All the impact I got is like, for one, him and Duck never met each other. Yeah, so he did one little trouble. Yeah. And it was for publicity. You know what I'm saying?

And Duck was serious at first because he really would have brought six, nine, to the hood, and he would have been good. until he said what he said about Chicago. Then you're talking about the city now. So I'm assuming that's why Duck reacted the way he did. But it was funny. It happened one time.

So my child can drop a song paying homage to the other side against people who've been trying to kill him for years and finally succeeded. He'll be mad at me. for sitting down with six nine. Why? Yeah. Why would he be mad at me for that?

A lot of people feel like you shouldn't be getting cool with anybody that your son wasn't cool with because he's not around to make that call. It happened one time. If Duck was here, ain't no telling who Duck could be cool with. It was a cool guy. He tried to make peace with all them guys. But you tried to do content with Dirk's dad as well,

which is like obviously. No, it wasn't content because it wasn't recorded. Oh, you were supposed to just link up with him? No, wasn't supposed. I did. This was a G-call. Yeah. This was a G-call

because my baby really, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, they ain't fucking with him because they fizzes the music. Yeah. He's seeing that. I'm sitting down having conversations with my kids and my son. Like, I can't get no real money, ma-ha. This is the conversations at the table.

So who was able to put you in? in a big dirt together in the room for y'all even had that discussion. A friend of mads who know both of us because she felt it was necessary as well. Shout out Ms. Baxter. I love her to death.

She felt it could have and she felt it could have happened. So when we did, when I did that, you know, my people's, we was all together and I actually waited on him that long. How long was the wait?

Like all my people. almost two hours. And this was at like a mutual location. Yes. Yes. Turn off the light. We can keep going. It's fine.

And like the kind of dope. No, I just can't. What's up? So it's pretty much a mutual location. And then he had you waiting a few hours. Yes. He had me waiting. Me and my people, we were getting frustrated.

But he finally came in a minute. The meeting probably ain't last more than five or ten minutes. He said what he said. And I just looked in awe, couldn't believe it, and I lived. And this was before anybody died. Yeah. So what year is this? 19.

So Ducks still a lot. All right. So what was said, what was said that you was like, that you couldn't believe that he actually said? Like, basically because. Because I said, is it a way possible that you can get your son? No, like, without no kind of like, really get you a boy. because I got mad and get these

kids together and so they can sit down and hash this shit out Fahs is musically you know and that was a punch in the gut to my baby because he's like he's already rich like damn

he ain't gonna let him of a f***er eat what did Big Dirk say exactly like what was his words? Basically my question was is it possible if you could get your son? and sit down with my son so they could talk about whatever differences they got going on. And his response, because I can actually call Ms. Baxter. Is that okay?

Because she was there. She couldn't believe in either. She could like really, you know. Because it's like when he said what he said, I was like, everybody was pissed off. That was with me. He was like, well, we waited for this. But it was cool now that I think about it because I'm in L.A. You have to hold the camera.

Can you put it by the mic a little bit? I'm in L.A. And I'm doing the interview right now. And they asked me a question about the meeting. Just hold it in the bottom right there. The meeting with Dirk. And he was like, how did I meet, get that together

and I say, well, my people know them. And I just shatter you out. So I just decided to call you. Because you were there, and you know I call you were there. I set it up. I set it up through Michael Chester. Okay.

Remember? Yes, ma'am. We wanted to. I told you I had that dream and I wanted to put them to come together and I wanted you to meet with them and maybe y'all could talk to your kids. man because it didn't make sense both both people had talent and they could not you know use their talent in their own city because they was just so at war you know against each other

man so yeah um you know the rest what happened and my my feelings was so hard i was crying why not miss baxter you like stop crying because i really tried didn't i miss baxter i really tried and then I think about it now like he I don't know what to think like did he know his son wanted to hurt my baby that bad because it's not a fact his son was one of the main people involved in the death of my son and maybe he knew something I didn't know so that's what that's all I could think miss Mexico let me get a doubt I felt like, you know, that day something could have all this could have been avoided. I think so, too.

Let me, let me ask you this, Ms. Baxter. What, what do you think Big Dirk could have actually said or have Dirk and, Doug actually conversate about? Or what did you want to see happen or that conversation? I wanted to see, I really wanted to see the parents with their children come and do like a mediation. And I wanted to explain to them both. Both of you guys are great. got great talent. You know what I'm saying? You got good singers. People got a good Chicago fan base.

You shouldn't be beefing. Y'all get that money. They don't have to do the stuff they were doing was unnecessary. They could have been getting money. Now look, bond gone, duck gone, and you might as well say a little dirt gone too. You know what I'm saying? For what? All that wasted talent, all that money that they could have been making and helping their families and helping the community. But they're on top of this beef, this unnecessary crazy-ass beef. And then now one of them little boys knew myself, I'm personal. And that's what's crazy. That's how Doug would listen.

Duck came out, you know, letting them know, hey, man, yeah, I'm willing. He told him this, I'm willing to let it go and get this money. But they keep coming for me, you know. And it just, you know, it's just, you know. senseless man I don't know I think that they could have they could have said the parents could have stepped in and said listen that's what I was tough stop beefing with people you know stop doing this it was deeper than that miss Baxter as you can see it was deeper than us sitting down getting these babies together because they wasn't trying to hear nothing and look at the consequences and the circumstances and I'm telling people

way. How better stop interfering with what God got playing when people sit up here and it just it bothers me. Now, we love our kids. We got to support our kids back to the way. But when you know somebody there's something wrong and just diabolical and just unheard of, because this situation is ridiculous. And it's getting Worse and worse And worse I know.

I love you miss Baxter I know I love you miss Baxter I love you Miss Baxter Thank you I love you too shenna enjoy yourself

Why you have to stop crying I know I cry every day Miss Baster I try not But I can't help it Like It hurt

Because it's It's so senseless It was so senseless and they know when they're that's what they don't get this back you're right I know I know how you feel

you know I've lost my son too he's gun bother yeah and he wasn't no rap or none of that this man was just out hanging out but yeah I love you what she was eating I'm gonna throw some cornbeats

All right, I'm gonna call you later. Some people... To the first, hold on. What you want to say after? I was gonna ask you once she was done. Okay. All right, I'll talk to you later. All right.

I think, like, some people might be surprised that talking about that situation could still bring you to tears. Just the fact that, like, the sheer cruelty of it and the fact that there was so little pity or willingness to reconcile It was so brazen.

It was so like, had to be done in the eyesight. And when I look at the situation and everything that's going down, and I just feel like they always knew because they were being watched. My son got killed in the middle of them being investigated by the feds anyway. You know, to be at that train. And to see that that $5,000 cash out came from that boy. Because that boy told him what my son was doing and lying. The kid across the street.

Lying. Lying. Which was T.HFT's your act. Duck ain't even know who he was. Can you break, all right, because you was there in the courtroom during the trial. Can you break down moments of the trial that the part? public didn't get to see and evidence that you heard that we didn't get the air and what stood out to you?

They didn't get to see the whole video where he was in that store and that security guy was recording him. Teasy, right? And he was on the phone with a couple of people trying to get who he was trying to get. And saying duck chased him with a gun. He said stuff like, yeah, but that shit about to be over. with now though because the person who he was telling it to was really believing what he was saying in reality duck hadn't even seen him right just standing there looking out the window

watching duck why he's still in milanai shopping yeah not even paying attention to these goofy ass stupid-ass little boys he still mad in his business because it wasn't nothing to him he and that That's so scared, fighting off the sight of my son. Some rolled down his lid, he pulled down and get it. If somebody on the phone say, you ain't got your gun, he said, no. If somebody chasing you down the street with a gun, and this is what that makes sense to me,

because if Duck had, because they thought that boy was with him, they thought that young man who was being, Handduck was with him, but he wasn't. All that woman like he moved out, cause and not lies. But you had to be in the courtroom to notice. And you think that's how I'm going to talk about the facts of it? No.

Because someone else also got shot that day too, right? Two more people got shot. Yeah, two people, right? Two more people got shot. And when they jumped out on them, you know, I met that young man at the press conference. You know, he don't want to be on camera stuff. I met him. And he said, Mama Duck, I don't mean no disrespect,

but I didn't even know who Duck was when I was standing behind him. And he said, Duck sass him up because Duck ain't know who he was. Turned around and looked at him like, what's up? And he said, he's like, what's up? And he said it was seconds later, them cow was jumped out the fucking Kyle. We watched this man talk to the police. They walked him to his car. He doubled back from him.

If you were in danger, why are you doubling back from the car? Why are you still on that phone? He's running up the street. Talking about he running from the killers. There's ain't nobody chasing him. He's trying to follow on the phone, running up the street, trying to see where the car going when he busts the U. And went in front of Doshan, come on.

All right. So that's the Gold Coast District, correct? He stayed down. near to they shot him and then looked on his tippy toes saw that my baby was down, hit me and told him to come on and walk to his car

and left. Then text his baby mama three laughing emojis. Yeah, that's the type of power that my son had off words to make a motherfucker do him like that.

And the crazier part is the dude who's making his phone call is actually from a hood you grew up in, which is T.S. Yes. No, it's mama. One of the guys who shot Duck, Daddy got shot just like Duck got shot and lived. He's a paralegic right now. He's my cousin's best friend.

I had the ability to, when he got shot in the 90s, to be there for him and nurse him back catching the red line all the way to Morris, where he stayed at, his sister stayed up north. This when we was kids. Who father is this? Hey, Mama. See thing. See thing. All right.

Look just like them. No, what I'm saying? That shit cut so deep that some people, kids, that I helped. And where I was raised, it's the reason of my son the mask. Because you know what? Duck would have never did anything to nobody from four six. Nothing. Maybe not him personally, but people associated with him.

He can't help about who he associated with. Yeah. See, a lot of people don't know. Me and Bezou talked so much. Because Bezu told the story about the funeral and how Duck went and Zhu made sure that. I'm going to let Bezou have it. Okay. Because how he's going to tell Duck or tell his guys not to come?

I got baptized in that church. I went to the grammar school across the street from that church. But that was also years before the war kicked off, though, correct? I grew up in four-six inducted. Yeah, yeah. I grew up in four-six. So I know my kids know mothers from four-six kids. They're having to beef with them.

A lot of them kind of fake-related. Baby Daddy's his best friends and shit or cousins and shit. So that's how that went. And if that was the case, we was out there. On the scene, where my little cousin was stretched out, just like his daddy, but his fucking bonds coming from under a sheet. Five blocks down the street,

10 years later from where the police killed my cousin at. Same side of the street, 49th and Drexville, 45th and Drexler. Ten years later, we were out there, the whole family. Dug. All us. If something was going to happen, it would have happened. Right? See all this shit for the internet and all this shit,

I don't give a fuck about no internet. You know what I'm saying? I don't care about that stuff. This shit mean to these babies, the internet mean more than them than their morals, then their life, then they mama,

then their kids. Look at the, and situations happening behind motherfuckers getting on the internet. The positive don't get praise. It's just the, negative. So, and

Bezos said he told them don't be on there with his family. He probably did, but we was coming. And I all white, that's my auntie's grandson. Why wouldn't we be there?

You see all those pictures with Rahim, who house you thought he was at when he was on that picture with brown scrap? I mean, with scrap brick when they had the yellow one. No, that's your house. That's my house. And my daughter's black and yellow party.

When Weas Khalifa came out with black and yellow. Yeah. Duck loved Weis Khalifa. You see what I'm saying? I don't think he knew it. But he did. And when I saw what he did, when he put my baby, I was like, wow. So a lot of them, you know what I'm saying?

He was at Brian Funnel. That's just like Duck friends telling him, you can't come. Tell him Rahim, you can't come to Brian Frummel. Make it make him see. That's my auntie whole grandson And he got one left Shout out doodle I look hers

Which is Bezoo's stepson Yeah Speaking of Bezoo What was your thoughts when you heard That Bezoo passed away And the circumstances behind it I didn't like that If you asked me to be

No not that you liked it but like I was upset because for one That's my cousin's stepdad. He played a biblical role in their life. So it was a loss to them. His son came. You know what I'm saying?

Yes. I don't want to be speaking on people and I don't want them to be mad at me because that have happened. Like I can't even really basically talk about my little cousins because I'm getting, you know, this is my family.

This is my blood. I'm going to talk about it. But I mean, well, all my intentions are good nothing to be bad about one thing all right so back to the six nine situation when we used that six nine house or actually before

you did a six nine interview you did an interview with Ross but I guess before Ross was wearing shorts and you noticed he had a picture of King Vaughn tatted on his leg and that's kind of going viral now that the footage actually released today or whatever the interview well it was Vaughn with the 10 shots around

them for his 10 alleged bodies right Right, I didn't know. He brought that to my attention. See, I brought that to my attention because I just saw, I'm like, oh, you a real friend. I mean, fan, you really like, like, you got, he's like, Mama Duck, you don't see the 10 skulls. I got that. So he brought that to my attention.

Yeah, I didn't know that the skulls representing each person that King Vaughn allegedly killed. It's crazy. Allegedly. Yeah. That's crazy. So what was your thoughts when, like, because now, you know, the Internet's reacting to that? You saw my reaction Yeah, yeah

Because I didn't really watch We was driving She was on a meeting My manager was in a meeting So I didn't turn it up I just seen it So I haven't really Looked at it

But that don't make you feel A type of way Towards roster anything, right? Why would I feel? Because that's what the comments Like when you read the comments Everyone was like She's sitting down with the guy

Who has the person Yeah, yeah, yeah So like You gotta have them You ain't nothing if you ain't got a troll man you gotta have a troll they can pay in that so

but obviously like a white kid like Ross is gonna be a King Vaughan fan sure but I would understand if you felt like the bullet holes or whatever around him were a little over the line because that's a little bit more as a mother it was kind of deep but I mean

there's his take on it he's grown ass man and he put whatever you want on his skin but if you want my opinion like I was like okay I saw the tattoo and then he put the skulls and then I was like

oh okay you know if it's true it is what it is I mean that was the image he wanted why is everybody so mad about that

and that's the image that may be portrayed like that's what he wanted people to know about him that's what he wanted people to think about him so why is everybody so upset

that he got the tattoo with the skulls I'm not I see why he got it he was so loud about it how do you feel when like news come out that they're saying that King Vaughan basically would have been implicated in the duck case

if he was still alive he would have yeah so would dey they both would have yeah do you feel closure I won't get no closure to they sent us. I haven't even forgave them them kids. So within myself, I haven't big down rigorously, honestly forgave them. And I don't think I won't get any closure until they hear what I got to say. And once I do my, once I go through that, and it will be closure for me.

In the sense of like you have a direct message to those guys. Yes, I want to look them and they. face. But you want to speak at the sentencing? I'm going to. I have six different impact statements. Two of them are very personal because they are the kids of two people who I

grew up with. So I just want to see how remorseful they are how they feel because now it's just looking like they're only going to be known for the rest of their lives as the people who killed

Doug. Nothing else. Won't be for their music. It won't be for nothing but killing the, that's their legacy. And I want to know are y'all fan with that? Or

how stupid or f***ed up you feel now that the shit is coming damn. These y'all see them little foolie old people's thing. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And that's what I'm wondering is

if the O Block 5 or or six, well, if they'll do the like, hey, I'm a Christian now, and, you know, I have so much empathy and blah, blah, blah, or if they'll, like, stick with the gangster persona. I mean, how long they've been like this since 2021? They have had quite a while. How long they ain't been since it's three years? I mean, at this point, you would think they ain't got nobody but God,

honestly, get a religion and just get through it. I'll just never stop being fascinated by the fact that dudes will do the most gangster, heartless shit to get a rep. And then they'll go on camera in front of the whole world and say the softest shit possible to try to get a lesser sentence. Like, it's just the comparison between those two things is insane. You know when it's funny, that shan got right, dude. I feel so sorry for him. The gamer from the folio thing? I feel so sorry for him because he led a situation from my perspective.

me on the outside looking in. Yeah. He grew up in a happy home, was well-traveled. You didn't been to China. Seven countries before you were 18 years old. So all that shit, you're 20 now. You was 18 when you got locked up. So at what period of time did you meet these assholes

that from the look of it convinced you to get all your mama guns from the army and load up and just go. just travel and shoot them off. But that's the allure of the streets, that even kids who don't have to do it, Damien, what's his name, Darryon? Yeah.

Baby, he proud of what he did. Yeah, the one, basically, he started clapping when the judge said, proud of what he did, because guess what? That shit hurt his family. See, some people can't take it. And then it made me think about duck. Yeah. Like that word, now duck ain't never going,

because they say he went to the grave, the baby grave, and defecrated or peed on the grave. And what the media and what social media don't know is, if the mama and the kids are still alive, why do that? Because we're the ones got to see it. The family, who ain't did, nothing to you.

These are the actions of somebody who verbally hurt you. Or they've been worn for a long time, probably tried to shoot you. and myth. Like, it's a lot going on. What's the most disrespectful thing you think someone's done to you about this situation?

About what? About Doug passing or, like, just in general, like, when you're saying it like that and you're saying the mothers and the family members. God, the people who don't know our situation just go out what they see on social media and say the harshest and harmfulest shit. And it only shows me they weren't raised, right?

They don't have a mother that's in their ear because how could you consciously possibly do that to a grieving mother? Because I used to think it was just me. But I see they do that to that boy mama too. They chose the fuck out of that lady, living her best life. What do y'all expect for us to do as mothers? The media. Not try to make peace, just living misery and sorry.

We already got to deal with the fact that we never see our kids no more. So now we got to fall into this trap to where we're going to be mean and ugly and fucked up because life been life in us. Not everyone take your approach though with it because like, all right, another person that could be on the internet and, you know, having moments is too come on. But we never hear or see anything from her. Because Dominique crazy. I'm Dominique voice. Okay. So she's standing by a lot of the things you say.

She's a little too sensitive and behind the scene. She's still trying to figure out why is everybody this and her song? Why's the world? Is she still triggered? All right, because the thing is, one thing you said today that called me and you said you cry every day. Every day. Every day. She got a baby at 43 years old.

She got a new baby. Yeah. That's probably about four or five. And Tuka would have been, what, 30? Yeah. Wow. That was a late pregnancy. Everybody think about that.

Like, sometimes we try to feel voids by doing other stuff. Yeah. You feel when I'm saying? Grief, I won't wish it on none of y'all. Y'all got kids. However, where they pass, it's just tragic because our kids are supposed to be a real. So we're not supposed to be a real child. In other words, we're not supposed to outlive our kids.

So when that happens, I see a lot of people be like, oh, my mama gone. My mom used to tell me all the time, I'm not going to bury y'all, y'all going to bury me. She died five days after her 49th birthday. And that was in 2003. And not having my mama is fucked up when you've always had her. and her leaving so young. But you think about the word and it's say we're not supposed to outlive our kids.

Maybe God felt she wouldn't have been as strong as me as she would have lost one of us before she died. You know what I'm saying? I'm just like, I'd be real physic with this shit. I'd just be trying to just figure out ways to stay positive. and not let the negative get me. No, I mean, losing a parent is the hardest thing for a kid to deal with, but you still know that that's the natural order of things.

That's how. Losing your kid is just, you know. I won't wish it on my worst end. Yeah. So you don't think you can ever forgive the O'Block gods ever? No, I didn't say that. No, I'm asking that. God forgave me.

Yeah. I'm just not in that moment right now. I don't know if God forgave me instantly. So I ain't going to forgive them instantly, but I know I've been blessed. And I've repented, and I apologize for it. Somebody took my $20 goddamn dollars to date. I dropped it by the taco truck,

and he was so slick with it. He eased his ass over there, put his foot on my $20 and dipped. So I'm looking for my $20. He didn't disappear. I like he was on his phone and air. And I'm like, I hated a dishonest person

because I probably would have gave him that $20. It was how he did it. He was a black man like, yeah, he don't know what he did. Fucking where the motherfucker like me taking my money. She's janky out here too. Yeah, I see. I'm like he might be plotting on me now.

He might think he got a victim or some shit. But yeah, so I just try to, I live my life. I taught my kids to live their life, how they was raised, what, and life shit going to happen. How would you feel if one of Duck's killers got, you know, stabbed or killed in prison? How would I feel? How are I supposed to feel, I don't know.

Would you feel relief, or would you feel the son? If that happened, that's God. Doug died from God's will Vine died from God's will These are all these babies died From God's will I was just talking to see my post It went viral the other day

On Taquine day And what did you say on the post? And I said I be holding like that It really hits me Because when he got killed They were trying to kill brick Yeah

They missed brick And hit him So I carry that a lot. You know what I'm saying? And they were caught. They snitched on each other. That's what I'm saying? These people try to picket shoes.

Do what you're going to do. Let me ask you this. You think you would have been able, if anything happened with duck or brick, you think you would have been able to get them to snitch? What? If anything would have happened with duck and brick while they were in the streets,

you think you would have been able to convince them? I would talk to me and myself. They know the type of. They know that. They know that. But knowing you're doing... Because I would be there to support, especially if you out there.

Now, if you defending yourself, baby, I'm gonna get you the goodest lawyer. I'm gonna do what I gotta do. Support you as your mother. But if you're out there being stupid, doing dumb shit, shooting that people and hit a three-old kid. Somebody, grandma.

I'm gonna be the first to turn your ass in. But knowing the lifestyle that duck and brink. Rick lived, you think you could have got them to corroborate? What lifestyle they lived? I mean, just being a street dude and being around street people. Brick hustle. Yeah.

You know, he hustled as a hustler. He did what he had to do. He was young doing it. He went to the penitentiary at 17 years old. He got out when he was 19. That's when I was on 63rd. When he went to jail, I wasn't living on 63rd. When he got out, I was on 620 and Wobat.

Because he got out in 2009. Yeah. From the, uh, now when I moved on roads, he was locked up. He wasn't around. So he didn't really know them guys like Duck did. Duck got real familiar with them because he was staying with boss Trill, Mama. With time for him. Yeah.

He was staying over there. So that's how he really got the knowing young and Dutchie. Then they went to Macaaj together. And they came up. Like, they always been cubs, but we lived on 99th in Lafayette. Like, Duck could have took in the hundreds. He could have got any who he wanted to win. And that's why they mad.

Yeah. He wasn't bringing, like, danger or making money, you know what I'm saying? He was a leader in his own rights. That's what they hate. That's what they hate. He was a leader in his own right. Like Brick was more a 39 found. He was only on 63 because Duck.

You know what I'm saying? Brick was actually Beam team When I seen him Tatted that on his arm I'm like damn You serious about that Huh?

He's like yeah, ma'amah You beaminging Why ever they do that shit But This is like All right Here's a question See I'm only 15 years

Older than Brick That's what people don't understand So y'all kind of had a closer We grew up together I was a kid Having a kid So about time He was 15

I was 30 Yeah Still really Getting to know myself so the relationship with me and brick was way different from me and duck because they were younger you see what I'm saying and duck wasn't even a problem duck wasn't even a problem brick what I see it seemed like brick was the one that was really turned up brick you wouldn't hear a peep out of brick if you ain't fuck with him

or I heard nothing he loved. It seemed like he was a protector. Gee, a provider and a protector in every sense of the world. And you wasn't fin to play with him. You didn't heard the stories out. He was over there after they pulled that stunt where O'Block and took his shit and thought it was going to be cool. Where O'Block took shit from brick? No.

From Doug. Yeah, no, from the boys from Jiro. Break that now. I don't want you. Baby, you heard the story about they took Brick gunn. And Brick went over there and him and Duck out. J-May ain't tell the best. I was knocking more.

They was like B-D telling the G-D not. Brick was B-D allegedly. You see what I'm saying? Brick was B-D and Duck was G-D allegedly. I ain't never know. I know when I was an S-O-S coming up in the 90s, I got blessed in. Like, I had to learn lit and all type of stuff.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, I don't know how these games working now. They're different. I was a kid, teenager. Didn't need a gang. I got 57 cousins. I just was fitting in.

So was Brick ever, like, getting shot and stuff like that? Yes. How many times Brick got shot? I remember I was on the bus somebody from 59 shot brick. Rhondo number nine shot brick. December the 26th, 2011. Break that down. And how do you know it's Ron.

His cousin birthday. Because they told me. They take 600 tell this story all the time. He's going to be mixing in their names. Well, I'm name dropping, God damn. I'm letting you know this. So Rhonda No. No. 9 shot brick and break it out on how the day went.

Okay. They was coming from downtown. they was on the orange line and trade into the green land and my baby told me this was the story he told me they ran it to them I guess they was coming from downtown still but Jasmine his girlfriend

at the town his baby mama we were waiting at the house that's when I lived on 61st 11th Evans not they on their way they only realize somebody like Brick just got shot on the red on the orange line I'm like what

I get to the hospital he's laying in the bed he told me he told me the story he said um he didn't have no gun or nothing yeah but shawdy had a little pocket rocker and he said he just wanted to fight them but he said he upped it and he told him blow that mu'll fucking in and he's saying shawdy blew him on what brie got shot at in the side and he came right out and landed in his hoodie pocket. It went straight through. It was a bullet like this big.

It went through his side. And then there was another time with somebody from 59 shot him. And the arm, and they took the bullet out of his arm. Then was the only two times that I know he got shot. And what about Doug?

Duck. Doug got shot at the store on 57th State. I ain't going to say who shot him because he's still out. I'm not this. You might do something. All right. So, look, look.

I'm just playing. There's a viral Reddit picture. So when Doug got shot, Duck never went to the hospital. There's like a viral picture of Duck with like a patch on his back. And they say. Now you try to get into some shit. They're saying that's from when he got shot. But he.

No. I can't tell that story. We had nothing in due time. We're going to say that. Nah, all right. But for what I heard is. What you here, right. I heard Rico reckless popped them

and that's a big reason why they ain't friends no more You did not hear no Rico rec ass pop my phone I promise I heard Rico reckless pop yours No you did I promise I heard Rico reckless pop your son And that's why that's a big reason why they ain't friends today Like you still dead so Because Rick and Rico

When I stayed in Wuggerill up Brick and Rico used to be cool But he started trolling brick At the brick that you know he went over there on the grave, I mean, on the block where Brick got killed, knowing we was all at the funeral, out there trolling like, yeah, nobody at. We're at the funeral.

We're not trying to come over there and do nothing to you do. Your ass is trolling. So that was what personal with Duck and Rico. He did shoot my son. Please, I would know if Rico shot. I know exactly who shot my son. And he got shot in the back. The same day can't get right, got killed.

Remember they were saying Duck was out there? Yeah, yeah. When he was getting that food or whatever? No, I saw a video. I saw a video saying, Duck posted been on the same. I don't know if it was rare people. Somebody did it.

And they was like, this was the day Duck supposed to get. He was out there too. No. Duck was nowhere around. Duck wasn't around when Melly died. Duck wasn't around when Can't get right died. He wasn't around. But earlier that day, some shit popped off

and the motherfucker accidentally shot him. So somebody accidentally shot Duck? Right. Because in the second story, I heard, I heard... Accidentally shot him while they was trying to shoot his ass. And that's what I heard. I heard Wooski accidentally shot Duck when he was trying to shoot somebody else. I don't know.

I ain't for the name job. I was just saying. I heard, no. I don't think Wooski was there, but okay, if that's what you know. I think I heard, Wooski was aiming for Rico Reckless. But he shot Duck in the process trying to shoot him. I don't know who shot him, but I know that's supposed to be some shit. And if that is true, that was personal.

I did the video like that. My mom, I saw him trying to shoot him. I didn't mean that shit. I was speaking off of anger. And I was speaking because I was angry and I was mad because if I would have seen him, I probably would have punched him in his face. So I acted out. But, yeah, I've said that.

shit, a lot of shit out of anger that I hate I see it. Yeah. But, you know, I have more control of what come out my mouth now, but can't be getting angry at people who don't got a flu. Don't know

nothing until it happened to them. You see what I'm saying? Everybody mad at me. Like grief is is like you don't never know when it ends. because you're going to always see behaviors from people that then lost kids.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So a person who ain't never lost a child wouldn't understand it. You know what I'm saying? But I just think that I'm tired of these babies lose. I'm tired of these mama losing their babies. My daughter, the little boy who's going viral now, went to school with my 15. year old. The 14 year old

they got shot by his friends in the alley. Bless his heart. My condoneses goes out to his mom, but he was a schoolmate of my daughters. And when I first seen the picture, my reaction was like, this baby 14, he looked like he about 25, 20,

you know what I'm saying, because of his mustache. He had a mustache at 14. So I'm like, okay. Maybe think about young, had a mustache since he was 12 yon had that mustache that he got nice since he was like he always let the grown up shout out young

man he'd think I'm mad at him right now but I'm not I love all little kids and ain't nothing they could do about just keep that shit over there it's just manning young really fucking at all because he's wrong and never since of the word and I don't even want to talk about him so we're gonna just

move on to something else for because that conversation would definitely change my attitude and I'm trying to stay in good graces. Yeah, no, I'll hear that. How do you, all right, one thing, I'm asking this because I know YouTube videos, vloggers, whatever made videos about it, but like, I guess there was like footage of the cars leaving O'Block

headed to downtown coast. Did they show that in the courtroom? Of course. All right, but then later on, apparently some of those cars ended up being in the vlog that Boss Top was in. Do you know anything about that? That bocop was there. Bossop shot like a vlog or whatever after the fact.

That wasn't the cars. I was at the car because they had the cars already. All right. Well, that's just. They had Kenny Mack car and they got Loebts car from the dealership. So that got killed August 4th. That video was shot August 31st, right? Right.

All right. So there was just cars that looked like the car. But you see people trying to say like, oh, they got the cars in the video. No, but two of the killers that I know was in that video, Well, one, C-Tang. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? C-Tang was in that video.

It's like he had C-Soe talking about he's smoking duck-duck. He on the phone with C-Sot, and he's so just a linky-ass-ass-goof-y. And I-all-a-cats-O-Fing? No. Yeah, C-Ton from Jacksonville. But I'm talking. And that's how I look at them. Yeah.

I look at all them boys that's locked up for killing my son, like some goofies. Because that's what they were. How do you feel about Ballstop changing his life? Bossop said in this saying said I was slow, didn't he? Oh, she got a problem. That lady crazy. Yeah, she got a problem. It seems like he's...

You don't think you had to change your heart since then? Because he's saying that he's done with all that shit. No, I mean, I made a comment on this. I say, God, forgive everybody. Like, if you are sincere with what you're doing, it's going to really show. You ain't going to have to front. You ain't going to have to try to prove to nobody you change. They're going to see it in your actions, how you speak, how you carry yourself.

I just think them boys made a mockery of the Muslim faith. There I said it. I don't care. And if Allah is a God that they serve, what you think going to happen to them for blasphemy? Let's talk about some real shit. What, what, what, what you, with playing with God and his religion and his beliefs, like, one minute they had prayer, the next minute they have video shoots, like, gonna kill everybody. And, and, you know what I'm saying?

But who was the real person? It do seem like boss top really did change his life, like, from what I see so far, like, I don't see him. When I did that interview with him, he seemed like he was just hell jaded to the whole street shit and he was ready to be cast. When he said, I was crazy because of what I said. Did I lie about what I said? When he said, I peaked up. Ah, there's nobody say nothing.

Nothing about T. Roy. So was I crazy because he did say that out his mouth, right? But one thing she said, though. She said my name. Yeah, she said, thank you to Boston for opening this big ass mouth. But we all know, like, that boy, mama, like, she's just, like, be talking. You feel me? I guess he was, like, you know, going through a lot, but...

How did you see it? They paperwork came out. Like, they whole discoveries all over the internet, you know what I'm saying? And nothing I said, none of not, no interview I did, no nothing, nothing was nothing. Yeah. My name, nowhere in there, my interview nowhere in there. You see what I'm saying? She's, like, delusional.

That lady delusional, like. It's a lot of people from both sides lost their mom. I mean, they're kids, and you don't see their moms like that. Like, she's like, I don't know. I think that she drove her crazy or something. And I wish the best for it. Should nobody's mom go through that. So you don't think you being investigated by the federal government

that they ain't picked that shit up? Was that used in the courtroom? Yes, it was. So that vlog? All of it was. That shit was so crazy. But you know, majority of the time,

I was in the overview room. Like when they read the verdict, I wasn't in the actual courtroom with them. You have a... I was in the overflow room. You have a relationship with Lil Pob's mom. Yeah. How did that relationship form

and who reached out to who? I think she reached out to me. she's not really social media like you know what I'm saying she's not and I can understand that was her only child so it's different from what I'm feeling I know I had 10

and I only got 5 but she just had one but he left her some beautiful grandbabies so I just try to talk to her and just, I mean, I guess she reached out to me because our cases are so familiar.

Don't you think? Like, when you think, like, her baby got caught up and some stuff that has something to do with another person who they didn't get, but it was about the same people and organization that took my son away from you. Yeah. So that's why I'm coming with this.

I'm trying to bring the mothers of peace in the forefront and I don't know how she's feeling, but I just know I talk to her sometimes and I could just see the hurt in her face. And then it's days when I talk to it and she upbeat and she, you know what I'm saying? So it's a process. I just pray for it every day. I just pray that she can just get through because it's just beginning for her. to see I'm almost at the end of the road

once they sent us these guys and my son so she hasn't went through the trial process or seen the videos her son because I had to watch that shit that was the hardest part of the trial I'm guessing did you see the videos before the trial because they leaked on the internet

they showed me before they leaked that I seen it because they wanted to compare me before. They didn't want to be in court the first time I see it. Was there part of you that didn't want to see it? I didn't want to see him after he was shot. Because when they finally told me, they was like,

you want to see him? And I was like, no, I don't want to see him like that. I didn't see him until he got to the funeral home. And he just looked so peaceful. Like he was sleeping. I'm just so glad that he still had his head on his shoulders and he didn't have to get no refiguration done. And knowing that he could have lived,

it just really just. And they said he could have lived just like due to the paramedics being slow or? Yeah, like I think if they would have got him to the hospital quick enough, that I mean, I would have took him a vegetable. I would have just in a wheelchair. Apparently, I just would have took him. But it was meant to happen because it happened. I'm sorry.

I ain't trying to make this interview. No, I hate that. It's the first time that I really was able to, you know, talk about a lot of stuff because of what everything that's going on. We can get back to, we can get back to some. No, I'm sorry that you have to go through everything that you've been going through and I can feel your pain and just even talking to you. I just, from May 19th, Adam and Remo,

Remember I told you before the day you called me, it was the day my grandbaby got out life support. About 22, my old grandbaby was on an E, an ECMO machine. You ever heard of that? Uh-uh. A ECMO, Google it. Look it up. Does that help you breathe or?

It's like a rest, it's like a life support machine. Like he was literally on five machines to keep him alive. And when you call me to about, Tribe lawyer. I wasn't leaving that hospital. That's what I'm saying. All that was just happening that day. They took my grandbaby off life support.

Then you called me with the interview. It was like everything was going. And then he came home. When I came home, he got released three days later. That's good. That's real good. So he's doing good. He took him to his first baseball.

game and he'll be two on the 13th of July so and I got brick day coming up you know we always just celebrate the family and stuff life goes on y'all like you got to be built for this shit ain't shit weak about life life is not for the week yeah you but you ever feel like a disproportionate amount of trauma? They probably did, but my faith gets me through it, Adam. Life, you know, just no. I just sit there and pour my heart out to y'all. Somebody is somewhere 50 times worse in a situation than I'm born.

When I lost my twin in that fire, I think about that because I stayed on the fourth floor, and I think about the circumstances that have. I got third degree burns on my feet trying to find my baby and trying to save her. And if that fire would have came out that room, the only way me, my, he was only eight months at the time, my other daughter and her twin, we would have had to jump out the window. And I just feel like that situation, it could have been five dead people with steady one. That's what I'm being about. Like, I can just imagine how this little girl would be going on 16 years old.

But her sister, her sister is just like she was a fresh. She's playing varsity. She got colleges trying to scout her already. So, you know, I do have a 15-year-old that could be a Y-N, but she's not. So I'm proud of that, too. Are you on high alert for that now? Yeah, because she'd be tried at them. She wants to be a part of the team runways, whatever they be doing the team thing.

Yeah, the team takeover. What's the teen takeover? When all about 1,500 teenagers get together and just storm a hood. They go a high part, they go downtown. Just any random neighborhood? Any random. They make flyers. Teen takeover, 87 and 80.

They make flyers. Yeah, really. And one time I'd to Chicago Police Department in this shit. Y'all got to stop this, get your kids. Because now they're making

the parents suffering. They used to do us back then, back in the day. I remember we used to have curfew being in the house about 10 o'clock. If you were under 13, under 17 years old, your ass had to be in the house

at 10 o'clock. And if you want, you got a curfew slip. You got three of them bigs and your ass, either going to jail or your mama getting fined. They shouldn't have never stopped that. They're trying to bring it back now. Yeah. So how was it?

Because then Trump sent the National Guard to Chicago? What changes did you see when that happened? Was there any? I don't even know. I don't live in Chicago, so if I don't see it on the news, I really don't know too much about what the fuck be going on in Chicago. That's my city, but I'm far.

away from near. So no reason for you to ever go back to 63rd or anything like that. I mean, my cousin did right there on 60th second and Everhart. I was just over there. So you still, you still frequent. I go like, why wouldn't I mean, long as I don't see the wrong person. That's what I'm saying. Like it's just at this point it's besides. But I don't think nobody wanted to play with me though for real. I don't, I don't even be worrying about that. I don't think Why? All I do is advocate for my son. You never almost got shot or been shot at dealing with all this.

Because one thing you did say, you said, Big Mike shot up your house. He did. And no one knew that. 2011, September 21st, September 25th, 2011. Wow. Because I moved over there April 12th. And I remember them kids like, earlier when I was gone, somebody supposed to shot off my back porch.

Yeah. But I was gone. Somebody put to shot that one because you know I stayed right and you had 800 over there on Cottage Grove, 61st. And one of them was supposed the boy bought

smooth. You know, they used to get into it with the smooth and the other little boy fats and like them little boys and I'm throwing my daughter a birthday party. All the kids

was in the back because I had this enclosed back porch. Now all these babies is in the back. It's about seven or eight babies and they was getting on my nerve where I swear to God I was like, uh-uh, come on, we're trying to cut this cake, y'all got to get ready to go home. The minute I got the babies

out the back of the house, we're in the front because I had a little long hallway then the front room, the table, the door right there, the front room right there. I had a room in the front room. That's why I called J-Man, Cracking his grill that. That's our first name, Jay-Man. Yeah.

They used to be on boo or shit like that. But, and we're saying happy birthday. Now, I think I made two plates. Cut two pieces of cake, scoop two things, ice cream, and I gave them to the twins. All of a sudden, I just hit glass breaking. And I'm like, then I'm here and shit come through the refrigerator. I'm like, well, and then somebody was like,

they shooting the back of your house up, Sheena. And I just made everybody get on the flow. And these kids had the Adasi to still be in front of the house after they did it across the street. And my reaction, I first, I say, you bass is really just shot up the back of my house doing a kids party. And I let them know whoever did it,

I'm so glad that child ain't shoot one of them fucking kids because that's all who was backed up. I let them know that, that they could have shot a kid. How you let them know? Like, I went out there after they shot my house up and they had to, that's it, to be across the street in front of the house. Like Big Mike and I'm still hanging out? I didn't see Big Mike, but I saw smooth.

I saw the black boy smooth. And I'd say, y'all just shot the back of my house up. He was like, I don't know what you're talking. I'm like, you bitch-ass little boys just really shot the back of my house up. You weren't worried about them shooting you right then? I swear to God I won. You know I just had an incident last year, my grandbabies. birthday party at Hollywood Park.

I'm in there with my grandbabies. My, my, my, brick baby mom, this brick daughter birthday. Brick baby mommy and her friend, they're in the car, they're smoking. They see a black truck on the side of her car. Now, they're on knowing that these people is with me. Baby, she didn't call me, say,

Sheena, we got to go. I said, what? For what? She said, sent me a video to little boys, I'm talking about saying, you will never guess who I've been here. And whoever he's talking to on the phone, they're like, Mama Duck. And then he's like, yeah, but she ain't even worth the bully or some shit. Oh, shit.

So the video, and I say, what? So she said, one of the little boys coming in right now. They couldn't have been no older 17 years old. So kids, I got my phone in my head. I'm walking. I say, I'm glad you realize I ain't worth the bully. Now he lost because he's trying, he don't know who out there watching him. I'm Mama Duck.

You think I'm up here by myself. So he's like, damn, how should you know we said that? So I walk up to the truck. They got the black book bag on the car. They got the black, they got on the wagon gear. I say, all I do is advocate for my son. And y'all want to kill me? Y'all really want to kill me.

Not a nigga that they wit. He comes around and say, Mama Duck, we know who you. years and he didn't name drop two motherfuckers that I don't even fuck with no more. So now I'm thinking, who he on the phone talking to? Had all the people that say you know

you're going to name drop these motherfuckers. Okay. He said, Fas, I know Mama Doug, you probably got, I say, wow, I'm up here with my grandkids. I say, yeah, but I got people I'm telling them to stay in the car. That's how I'm doing them.

Yeah. I'm fanning them like, don't get out the cop when I talk to these kids. And then he was like, Mama Doug, we ain't on there. We sorry. Now, I don't do that. You know what I'm saying?

Because if you thought I was up here in this public-ass place by myself, you're sadly mistaken, baby. And they f***ed his head up because how he knows, I know he said that. So he knows the truth. he's like, she got motherfuck out here for real.

Someone watching somewhere. So that was the end of that. No, I feel God too much to fear anything else with him. Does it bother you in a situation like that that you still have to have people with you and do you have to move around like that? I mean,

it's only right. I mean, I'm a known for celebrity, I guess, especially in Chicago. You know what I'm saying? Like, but I don't really,

I go, I always go out places by myself and I ran into nothing but love and positivity. Like I've never had an incident outside of that one where nobody was want to harm me. Did it bother you when Big Mike got released and went around doing a bunch of viral interviews and shit like that?

When Mike, little Mikey? Not Mike. What Big Mike? The one that got to shout out of your shit. He did what? You said Big Mike shut up your career. Yeah. But you said the interview

do I? No, but he's going around doing No Jumber, doing DJU, doing all these different interviews. He did the Nozum? Yeah. When? And he's mixing that?

A couple years ago, but then he didn't mention that. Oh, he ain't mixing that. Maybe he will now. Yeah, he probably will. Let me ask you those. I know for sure he was the one who shot up my house. How did you find that out?

And then also, what's the conversation like? Because that's Wooski brother, but Wooski on your team. He said it. He confirmed it. Because he said it, yeah, we made your mom and then move. We shocked your shit up

and that's why your mama had to move. That's not why I was had to move mother fuck of my low-income came. I'm going to. That's why I moved

off evidence. But you wouldn't a situation like that wouldn't make you move anyway? Well, after my house got shot up? Yeah, like your house

getting shot up, kids only getting shot? Not when your stepdaddy is the head of the stones and they still got structure and he didn't sanction you. You're on the block and came to them off

play with your house or nothing. No, but I was moving. anyway. But they were still playing with child as they coming through shooting it up. No, that was the last time they did. And that was like September, and I moved in April of 12.

I moved in May, matter of fact, because first time I moved, I moved on Holman and Douglas. When I left 63rd, May 2nd, they was having a true religion Fifi. That's when I started. That was around the time with Chief Keith. What's a true religion Fifi?

When everybody at the Fifi, I'm on true religion. Okay. See, in 2000, 1912, it was really popping back then. Everybody was wearing troops. So we didn't got into the fight with breeze and everything, me living out there because she keep, I just got sad, and they're like we from Tukaville.

And my nephew was scrap before scrap dad. He told, man, I'm out there fighting, grown there, rest in peace, little Johnny. I got cool with all the motherfuckers. Because when I first moved over there, I say I got to know the big homies. I got to get to know the big homies over here. So I started cooking Sunday dinner selling plates.

So they started calling me Southside. They're like, man, South Side, you could cook your ass all right. I was really selling eight, five-quarters meals for $10. Like you'll get a meat, two-sides, cornbread, and a pie for $8. Eight or $10, depending on the meat I was cooking. And they was eating their shit up. And that's how I got acquainted with them. That's how you know.

They're like Southside. Yeah, we fuck with you Southside. And then Brian got out of jail from that shit. And he came over to my house out west. And that boy was 26 years old. And Brian was only 15. Brian is scrap. Yeah.

And Brian hit, no, my nephew, Dre, hit the boy so hard. They was kids at the time. These was grown-ass men trying to fight them. And Brian made a statement like, boy, you must don't know what I do the motherfuckers. He's a kid, though. He's telling this to a grown-ass man. But at this time, you know him Brian capable? After they fault, that ain't shit.

Because I don't know if I think I'm immortal or something. These is Kanika Jenkins people. I didn't find that out to after we moved from over. I mean, when she passed away and I see kills and all them. Yeah. And I'm like, damn, this is my world. That little baby probably was out there at the time, too, or whatever. But it got so bad, Liljay, Spoon, Duck,

I don't know, it was like five of them. They're coming out of career. Now, this was after they fought the breeze. So every last one of them got a gun on them. Everybody got a gun on them. They're trying to go to the bus stop and go, I guess, back on 63rd or whatever. These people surrounded us like we was a breadcrum and they was ants.

It was literally 40 like they got us around and we up on the gate. And I'm just thinking I'm like, Lord, and I could see one of them telling them a sneaking shoot. I'm watching this boy, this grown ass man and tell them, shoot, shoot, shoot. So I jumped in the middle of them.

Now I know what they got. And I don't know what these people in front of me got. I literally jumped in front of them and threw my hands up and say, If y'all shoot, I'm gonna get it both ways. Y'all gonna kill me right here. If y'all shoot, you're gonna get me in the back. This is how I'm talking to them.

And then I took off because a detective car was ride past. I took off, didn't give a fuck who had no gun, and ran to the police car to try to stop him. The detective car kept on going. It wasn't even stopped when all these kids got us around. That's how I know the police ain't shit. They don't care. You genuinely feel like the police

And none of them really care Because a lot of the murders in Chicago Ain't bad police Yeah How can you feel like a lot of the murders in Chicago Go unsolved Because they don't got the resources And the witnesses ain't talking

And they just, you know The police ain't there It's only so much they can do But without nobody speaking up And saying nothing It makes their job harder So shit, do your job Investigate

Where your forensics at? Where is your shit at? Do you know what I'm saying? But they don't want to tell unless it's happening them. Do you see the situation a lot where somebody gets killed in a neighborhood in Chicago and they just barely do anything to try to look into it as far as you know? I know so many unsolved murders. They're trying to convince me that Oblock killed Brick and Cobby, and I know for a fact they didn't. The cops were trying to convince you that?

Yeah. They're trying to say that a person who I know for a fact wasn't even here because he died in jail. They just want to put it on them. That's how I feel the situation is. But I knew from the kickgo who killed my son and could. That's when he was jumping on the fence and trying to run it. He got locked outside of the house or something, right? I don't know I wasn't there.

But it was an alter kick. All I know when they jumped out the car, they shot Kobe, and Brick tried to take off. He got caught it in the back. Whenever he jumped because they found them in the gangway. when he jumped the gate, somebody was back there. Waiting on him.

Because he got shot in the eye. One of the books was in the eye. Now, after the boy, I don't know if he jumped the gate, but I know people who was out there. And when he jumped the gate, I could see him jumping the gate with the back shot, the butt shot, the back shot, because he's running. But the face shot, I can't see him.

catching a face shot and still trying to jump that gate and run. I don't know. Do adrenaline be rushing like that? Can a person do that? Oh, no. Face shots crazy. Physically. So that let me know. And it was at close range because he had a stilble on his face when I went to identify him.

Because they didn't tell me that at first. They just said he was shot such and such. And then when I went to identify him, I sink the hole under his hat. And I'm like, and he had an abrasion on his face from where he feel. Are you numb to all this yet? Like, just violence and death and... Am I numb to it?

I'm around it every day, right? Like, it's not nothing you get numb to. It's just something. It's a reality. It's a reality. That's all that go on in the world I live in. How do you feel, or did you see Little Dirk's mom do that interview? And she's finally speaking out?

I've seen it. What was your thoughts on hearing her speak out and her side of how everything? I just give her the utmost respect for even being strong enough to even speak on it. Because it takes a lot. He had to be really built and grounded to speak on him. Because you were the first person to really be like an outspoken rapper, mother speaking out on her son's behalf after he got killed.

You know, you kind of created that. And we haven't really seen anybody quite as vocal as you. I'm kind of because I knew I'm not the only one. Y'all ain't friend to make me saying like I'm the only one that my kid died over some stupid shit, whether they wrong or right. We're just used to seeing the moms be more quiet. And it looks like they with the shit.

And I was never with the shit. I was with the shit, but I wasn't with the shit. I was with making sure my kids were safe. I was with letting them babies feel like they had a second mama in me. I was cooking them kids food, like not knowing where their moms at and a lot of their moms, I knew. You know what I'm saying? All right.

You said, just, you said some shit. Not saying that I'm telling you to snitch, but you said that you would, like earlier in this conversation, you said your son's, no, you'd be the first person to tell or say something, right? Then you said that the police is trying to convince you that somebody killed Brick,

that you know didn't kill Brick. Right. So for someone, you're saying that you know all these unsolved murders. No, I just know that one. All right. I don't know a lot of them. But, all right, you still stick to the G-cold. You still stick to the G-cold somewhat,

But because you're not willing to tell the police exactly what you know and let them do their job. The police know what the fuck they know, at least the Chicago police. But obviously not because they came to you with telling you somebody. I'm the victim's mother. And they opened the case back up. These were the cold case people. No, but what I'm trying to say is they're telling you that someone killed your son. And you're saying, I know for a fact that.

Because I'm cool with his mama. But you're still not willing to give them the information. they need to solve it. So you kind of stick to a cold somewhat? What you mean? Like you still like you did. I went on the internet to the world and said who I thought killed my son. So you think I wouldn't tell the police that?

Oh, so you did tell them about the brick situation? I didn't. No, I didn't. You saw the paperwork. I didn't even mention it. They dropped the paperwork. I just said what I said. Yeah.

I didn't say it to the police. I said it on my own time. Yeah. They can take what they want to do with that shit. I don't care. You feel like you. still, you know, being a mother, you still feel like you don't want to speak to the police about anything?

Like, you being from Chicago, you still stand on the street, morals and ethics? Okay. I'm not a street person. Yeah, I know. I'm a mom and a grandma. You would have asked me that 40 years ago, I would have been all with the shit. Hell yeah, fuck them. Yeah.

But as I got older and mature, as any person would be there, then went through all this life shit that could have killed them and didn't. That's purpose right there. And I'm figuring that out. So I'm at a point in my life. I know I serve a purpose and I don't know what it is. Maybe it's me being outspoken mind. You know what I'm saying?

We all have a duty under God to do. I'm trying to be remembered positively once I leave this world. You see? Because that damn Oprah, if I ever see, I could tell y'all some shit about Oprah, but I ain't gonna do it. About Oprah? Yeah. What you got about Oprah?

I got some good shit about Oprah, but I'll be getting deep. We're gonna say that for the next year. Were you trying to get on, Oprah? Was I trying to get on Oprah? Now, did you hear what she said about Whitney? No. Talking about Whitney was high. Y'all didn't see.

You're on? What did she was? Yes. But the whole world was saying when you used it was hot. No, I'm talking about this particular. She called herself telling the story. We talking about one day Whitney was so high, she tripped and fell on stage. the hairdressing and spoke out

you got all the stars all the celebrities they're speaking out but I know I'm gonna shut up because she might get all my she a powerful woman I ain't been to fuck why and I got receipts

but I'm gonna just lead and it probably was in the tabloor before everybody I was like how can she talk about Whitney smoked crack and she used to smoke crack Oprah used to smoke crack

Oprah used to you're like the Oprah of the Rock really nah don't call me her No, no, not the Oprah of the rack. I'd rather be the windy whims of the rack. Oprah of a billion. Man, trillion.

Let me start talking because she might open some doors for me. But I ain't trying to be on that Epstein list, so I ain't fucking around. Do you all? Baby, that's what they tried to hide under the table. They want to take our man off the big shit and just keep on putting this other, frivolous a shit in front of us to keep our attention on that. No, I see shit.

How do you feel about, you know, I don't know if you was outspoken about this, but people are trying to like connect dirt to what happened with cash. How do you feel about that situation? And what do you think? You think the feds, because you said the feds, we know that the feds are investigating dirt, but people have been trying to tie like this. A whole bunch of people doing Dr.

coincidence like either he was being followed because then too many people know where son you live there a lot of people ain't know where his mama lived there so he got killed outside his mom's house yes he was on his way to his mama house and this was out her mouth she said my baby called me and say open the door and so as soon as she went downstairs trying to go open the door that's when she heard all the gunshots so But you said, do I think it's a coincidence? Only two people knew it was my, like, how is that? No, I don't know how many people.

I know on your side. I know the people that allegedly killed them. Ain't know. Like, there's just common sense. Who want to kill somebody that bad, besides the person that brag about it? And at this time, Cash has... It's like they was trying to convince me that all type of motherfahful is killed Duck. No, they didn't.

Only Duck was cool with everything. Everybody. Only one specific group that wanted my son out the way. Why do you think Vaughn? All right, well, let's keep the cast situation. So do you think, why do you think people are trying to connect it to Dirk, though? Like, because at one point, Dirt and I mean, Cash had a song that was heating up, like, Cash music. So again, they're killing people over the song and him standing by Bomb Muriel.

That's a reason for you to die. That's you want to tell me. He's being pretty disrespectful. And is that a reason to risk your life and your freedom? In their mind, seemingly yes. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy.

Where are the parents? You think I put that type of motivation in my son's head. I for, I kill, kill, kill. They did to you, do it to them. Nah, but even in Duck's situation, ducking hair a nigger say something. And then he made Chicago legends. And then the nigger say something, and he'd get mad and get triggered.

With the music. And he'll make dead bitches. So you think, you think. You think Duck One Man, he and a mainstream star got a whole look-a-like of him in a video. You're rich. Why are you still talking about some broke motherfuck? Right? Because he knew.

Let's think about it. Beef is good for marketing. Exactly. Exactly. And that's why Dirk didn't want to patch it up either. But you couldn't beak with nobody that was in it. And when you did beke with a motherfucker whacks, as much as money as you. You see what?

Damn, that's deep. Do you, there's facts that happen. There's not nothing I'm making. Oh. Do you feel like, uh,

in a sense, King Vaughn was also helping Duck out while he's being famous? Well, because him being at the height of his career, but see, Doug would have been famous too if it wasn't for the blackbone.

It's not like, no, they picked the side. They picked the side. But one thing I will say is King Vaughn. The fans picked the sad. But Vaughn, Vaughn made Duck famous in a way that Dirk didn't.

Dirk might have been beefing with him, but he wasn't like putting a fake version of his music video. Right, he was even telling Vonn at one point, stop mixing in him. Stop talking about him. We're rich. We don't need them broke-ass nakes. I'm saying.

But Vaughn was a lot more aggressive about using beef to market the music than Dirk was. So are you saying so is it safe to say that you do agree that the beef is behind? the music is for marketing like the beef is a marketing scratchy. Which was the basis of your lawsuit. Right. No.

I'm saying period. I mean for the most part, yeah. Period. They use the music to market and sell. I mean, I but I'm just saying common sense. Do y'all know if you talk about dead people, you're going to get

comments. You cannot, I even tell my son, please don't do that. he said, Ma, they keep on talking about my brother. Why they keep talking about my brother. All right, so also, that's powerful, too. So when you're hearing, took it to the O,

and you're hearing the brick line. Hey, he got the professional video. Like, he getting back in. What was your take when you first heard that song? You heard the references to your son. This is a charting song. Took it to the O. He's mentioning brick.

He said, picked up a brick, merchant on brick, and threw it at his whip. When I, I didn't know the song until I heard him say The Beast got six, uh, four bits calls from her mama and six calls from Duck. I was like, oh shit. Yeah.

He nisangering happened, okay? But it was all entertaining to me. It wasn't as serious to Duck to, to, he could have got some broke motherfuck to do that. I'm just saying, just think about it. Why do you think Vaughn wanted sure son dead, like out of everybody, though? They had a rapa lot picture. That rapa lot picture.

So you feel like the rapalot picture he was the main. When he posted, the day that Lowe's bought that car, this ain't no coincidence. The day lost bought that car, my son posted a picture with Easy, you know, one of the A&I, so Rapal Lot. And I was there at the phone car when he was on the phone with Jay Press. It happened in my house. I was right there. And my baby words to Jay Press was like, just give me out that contract. give me out that contract,

which is the contract he thought was with Sony, but it was with many because when Jay Prince reached out to Sony, that's how it got broke down. We don't have a contract with Sony. We have a, I mean with Duck, we have a contract with Cloud Boy, Inc., which is the label that from word of mouth

that many made Duck sign some contract to present to them to make it look legit. shit. So you think Vaughn seen that all them did. No, but all right. Because if he had the $50,000

at first, because it was already in the street that it was $50,000 put on. Yeah. After that day, it went up to the honey. What other 50s? In the sense of like, all right, this nigga about

to make some money off rap. We need to get him gone before this nigga get guns. If that GD.S. Motherfuck, it got some money. How they was getting money. Then they're going to be on it. They ain't got no other choice

but to squash the beat. Or just, because he was going to get money with God. Yeah. Yeah. But it had to be something like before the music, there was the music side of that. But then it's like, what went down for them at high school where there's so much hate for King Vaughn? I don't know. It's like going back.

My brain ain't going back that goddamn fire. I don't know why them kids. I know I had to go get me and my brother had to go get duck on day because he was fighting. and I found out it was an altercation with some people he was hanging with and he was hanging with so me and my brother, we went and got

ducked. You see the Courtney from TY and B video, the twin, did you see his interview he did? And he'll tell yourself, duck them mama walked them to school every day. They wasn't out here and she had ducked mama didn't play. She came

and picked them kids up and walked them to school every day. Sure That ain't nothing to be ashamed of. Do you know about the rumor that duck and I guess butter and some other people supposedly beat up Vaughn on the bus? I don't know about that. I don't know. I just know what I know. And I don't know nothing about that.

But hey, they're going to believe it anyway. Since we touched on before, can we get an update on where you're at with the lawsuit? Where is that? It's going to be where it be. I can't really talk about that right now. I don't know what's going on. My lawyers, they just do their job, and I just... But did you settle with D&G?

They settled. So that part is already resolved. Yeah, and they actually went to the kids' estate. They got split up with his kids. That's what people don't know. I don't get no money. Yeah, everyone think that you got the money, but the money actually went to the dog kids.

And they can't get it to their 21 or 18 or however their estates is set up. Oh, really? So the money, pretty much, no one got the money physically yet. No. But they will get it. When it's time for the beginning. Why was it set up that way? Because they minor keys of the state.

Word. It's theirs. It's their. I got you. I got you. So, I mean, I just. I just. And then you're still legally fighting the other one with King Vaughn's estate, correct?

Like, that's still ongoing? Well, all the lawsuits. It's still ongoing. There's more than... The sentences is still long going. I'm just caught up in court shit if I don't know how long. Crazy five years later, you're still

doing with it. It's not really resolved. I mean, obviously you know who did it and everything, but the door isn't really closed on all the loose ends. Have you received any money from Slot? Not a damn. Duck, I think Duck sold that song to...

Well, Mandy did. I don't know. how that shit go. But, you know, I do got the plaque, though. Oh, you need to get the plaque, you know, from it. So it's hanging in a while when I put six-nine head on the side of it. So. And you know it's a double bill.

It looked like a duck bill. Yeah. It's like, it looked like two hats because he got like the duck bill. And I think that's why he gave it to me. You got hyped when you saw this. Josh had a Mighty Ducks jersey. Yeah. He's a hockey guy.

Yeah. I love that jersey. I'm going to have to go give me one. For sure. One last time you are. Chris has an idea right there. Talk to butter, because you know Doug, don't, your daughter has two kids.

I talked to butter the other day. Lord, let's not talk about butter. Is he doing good? Yeah. He's smoking spirits? He's smoking spicy in there? I don't know what he's smoking. I'm not a jailbird.

I don't know how them people do to survive. up in that place. I'm surprised he ain't smoking. Dry wall. He in prison. Don't rule it up. Three hocks in a cot. God damn it.

You're drinking water with the same, you drinking and pissing in the same water. That shit is horrible. Yeah. He's going to understand these babies. How do you be feeling

when you be seeing all the leaks of Little Jay with like the trans woman, transgender, and shit. I don't think about nothing. Like, I know you see the footage, though.

I'm going to say this. And I don't be paying attention to that shit because whatever that man doing his life, that's his life. But me, Percy, I just know he f*** bitches all the time. Like, he, the girls be trying

to kill their self-fighting or like, I don't know, but there's a lot of freaky shit going on. A motherfucker's call me one morning. Talking about some, come up. I ain't going to even say that. Let me shut up. No, go on.

No, no. You're going to tell us the zesty secrets of Chicago? No, huh? They said, come up and do what? No, no. Like, it was some weird shit and I can't get it out the back of my head because all I'm thinking in my mind is like

you call me at 5 o'clock in the morning talking about come do this after you told me that a fucking train was in your inbox so far as I'm knowing he probably sucks off and now you want some cook you I don't know it's in the back of my mind so it kind of

my head up yeah what the yeah what the so I don't know but it's a lot of freaky shit going on with these kids. Do you think gay people should be allowed in gangs? Or do you think gangs should have a policy against that? A gay motherfucker will kill you.

They got their own community. They got their own gangs. They just not really talked about. Okay. Like, what's wrong with gay people? Gay people ain't no different from a regular person. I think people get admitted to because a sin is a sin, right? And my take on that, people shone on gay people because,

oh, God, they make that the number one sin God don't like. But my take on it is that God is a God of production, and he knows same sex can't reproduce. So that's why I feel like he looks at it like, you know what I'm saying? And it ain't no different from murdering, killing, stealing. God is about reproduction, and you know same sexes cannot reprim. do's

but love is love God is love gay mean love how could you hate somebody gay and mean love I'm with you

but I always find that the most homophobic or most like intolerant people are the dudes who in the closet or no the dudes just who did a lot of time

in prison sexual violence is like a very real threat consistently for men you know me neither about here all about it I don't want to go.

I'm not doing nothing to go. I just don't understand. Like, I think 1998 was a wake-up call for me. I just, I don't know. It's horrible. One thing is a lot of, all right, so they're saying since Dirk been to jail, a lot of unfortunate things would happen into, like, you know, all his artists, like OTF.

Zoo passed away, you know, Duty Low recently got shot in Atlanta. Can we look at this since you ball hard, but you fall? even hard. That's the type of situation this is. And I think people should just allow and wait for God to have to everybody got their hands on.

Everybody's talking about what's going to happen, what's this, what's that? Just sit and wait. Especially if you ain't got nothing to do with it. Just sit and wait. Everybody got their opinion on. And we're on the outside looking in with all the shit that's because at first they didn't have

no evidence. Now they got all. And these, like, you can't win with a troll. You cannot win with no troll. But are you actively keeping up with, like, the case? With what? With dirt case and everything that's going on with his situation. I mean, when they mention him and when Mubwab's lawyer, mentioned him in Ducks Trap.

Like, I'll see this man and say, are you investigating little dirt? Are you investigating little dirt in his? Like, he was accident, and then I think the federal government, like, possibly. Like, they answered some shit like that. I don't know, but I just, like, from the first day when we got there, they tried to get me put out the courtroom. You know, the first day in trial, they tried to get me,

his mom tried to get my baby dead. He put out because we was on the elevator, and they was recording me walking in the courtroom. And somehow she must have got, Mowice Mama got kind of in the video a little bit. She went and told them that we were taking videos of her. So it's cool for his mama to go snicks to the feds and lie. But I'm the snicks.

That's what I'm saying. They pick and choose who they want to call this and call that. When in reality, ain't nobody judging me with God. I don't go for anybody's sake. But yeah. And then we were staring at them too much. Teasy, who's that? And then you know how the law students come in and take up the front row.

He's thinking that it's our family, like it's family. So he complaining to the Jews like, she keeps staying at me. Were you making eye contact with the guys? Yes, I was. This move out, none of them could really look me in my face, but teasing. He was so cocky He's like, but I'm still here though I'm still here though

So he was still confident and like stood on it No, he was cocky about what he did To my son That's what I'm saying Because if it wasn't for him The shit wouldn't have never happened But everybody else And from their facial expressions

They seem remorseful Or they feel like Not remorseful They just sing Coat Yeah Busted it Busted as hell

But you wouldn't call it remorse Just more so sorry That they're in the situation They sorry they got caught It took them a year and over a year to catch him. What was they doing that whole year? Bragging, making songs. See, Dang Zill made the song.

Yeah, her mama crying on. Like, they was rubbing that shit in our face. And then they had the duck shoes or somebody having to goonsiagas with the... No, Gucci. They was throwing it in our face. And I'm thinking, like, where was their mama's at? why their kids was doing this because when ducked this LA in the song

he never did it again because I told him that's my friend's son I don't get a fuck with your friends you're not going to do it he can't control what his friends do but I told my son what else like I just feel like

it should have just it would have stayed at the music everybody will still be alive and rich his hell that's how I feel How do you feel when people say that a big part of the drill scene sparked with Ede and your son? Their beef in particular? Because that was really the first diss.

But what's the difference with they diss? Mm-hmm. What's the difference between E-Day? Like, when they was doing it, what was the difference between E-Dade and Doug dissing each other? They was alive. You dis him, he could dish you back. You dis him, you could dish you back. They were alive.

But them dissing each other started other people getting beat up, which led to fights and then led the gun violence, whatever. Right, I don't know where the guns came from. I mean, from all the people I've interviewed, it just sounded like it all started from the songs, and then it would be fights, and then after they get beat up, then they go to gun violence. A lot of them babies used to be in my house.

Macadoo used to be at parties in my house. Cracked used to be at parties in my house. when I used to throw parties for my kids. Like, these babies used to be at my house, and everything was all good. So I'm wondering where did it go bad? Because as long as they was at my house, shit wasn't happening. So I kind of felt I kept them babies safe.

And what happened to them when I left? I don't know. I ain't smoked a cigarette. That's good. We've been talking how long. See? See? I want to flank there like seven days, ma'am.

But I'm trying to stop. I'm a work in progress. I just can't quit cold. But I promise. Hopefully by my birthday, these bits is going to be a memory. And look, I brought my own nilly pillies.

You won't have me smoking no camels. One thing that you was really vocal about, you was vocal about a young boy performance being canceled in Chicago. Because I was looking for it to go ahead. You felt slighted. I was going to get a chance to meet him. I was going to meet his mama, but I still wind up me and she wound it anyway. But, you know, we talk on the phone all the time.

That's my girl. That's my girl. She got a potty mouth like me. You caught a little backlash, though, because one of the things you said, and maybe you just was in the heat in the moment after it got canceled. But you said, you felt like the moment was stolen for you because you wanted to hear a young boy perform. the King Von a little dirt diss song in Chicago.

Why not? They went everywhere doing it. Why not? What's the difference between young boy doing it in the neighborhood? I mean, it's not. People were just more mad at you or the messenger saying. But see, why would they be mad at me? And these are the same people.

What are I supposed to hate them? When I'm supposed to be like, young boy. Because he ain't from Chicago. Like the music. My son f*** with young boy. I like my daughters right now. Fick with young boy. I don't think it's that.

I think it's the fact that you wanted him to perform the disc song. I wanted him to perform, period. I wanted him to bring whiskey out. I wanted him, I wanted to see the show. Yeah. Whatever he did. I was hoping he called me out. God damn it.

That's what I was looking forward to. You know what I'm saying? Our kids made a statement in this bix. on that. Yeah. When they're going to get some, ah, they got put on a megatron,

let's be a boy. I guess they're supposed to be good enough. Do you still keep up with whiskey or one last time you had a conversation with him? His girlfriend be on straight gatekeeping. Shout out of him, yeah. But I feel like she keep him safe.

But, but look. Besides, I ain't lost in a video of him hitting somebody in the head. Gee, and all right, where to work it off his bitch.

Like, said y'all think woski yeah that n'n't he was fighting him about rins if he was the old whiskey he probably would have popped him yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah facts though oh she you feel like remy's doing a good job of keeping whisky out the way i've always said she take care of him good uh you know one day she flipped off at me but we got that situation over what though like what type of trying to get with wusky like trying to see what But is he okay and stuff? Why she mad at you for just shaking on whiskey, though?

No, she's not mad at me. She's probably just like, I don't know. You saw her little Mikey came in. I couldn't understand that recipe. What do you say? I missed that. His Cam Capone, I mean, his corporate cartel interview. He was this name?

Y'all haven't seen what little Mikey said. It would be some of stuff, but what exactly did he say? Just refresh my memory. Well, you know, he was gone 13 years, and I didn't. know, but I know now when he was on the run, he was at my house, because the police let him out by mistake. Yeah.

But until they caught him, he was at my house. Up north when I lived up, was it out where? Yeah, it was up north. Because we then caught an assault on the train coming back from the hospital seeing Rashid, he was sick. But he got on there and he just threw me. Even corporate cartel was like, yeah, what mama ducked? to you because he

just went off and I feel like he ain't been around me in 13 years so how is he just going off this shit but then when he said many

I say oh that's where he get that shit from he'd be hanging out young a lot now you're trying to like

and then when I went in on him because I could have said a lot of shit that I got receipts to but he said you know

I'm sorry. You don't say that you got the internet. I say, they sent you off, Mikey. Because they had to know I was going to say something. They sent you off, baby. You've been gone 13 years. You don't know what's been partaking in what's been going on.

They sent you off to come at me. And these are the consequences behind you coming at me with some shit you don't know about. I was he dirty and her ass and many. say he gave her money, that really made me know that he's lying. That man then gave me a dime. He got $21,000 from that label to bury duck. We still weighing on it. I thought he dropped off $8,000 at the funeral home.

Two days after my son was dead when I ain't made his arrangement. In the funeral home, he dropped it off at was on 71st and hosted. That's the ops territory. Why would you do that? Make it make sense. So you think he dropped some money out for real? So when I did the arrangements, I asked him, we need the money, many.

He told me I did some way. I had to bust a move with it. I hung up. Then tried the last year, I said the kids can come to the funeral. Why they was there? It was in the middle of corona. It was only 25 people supposed to be there.

So young was there? So it went to fit. Yes. Duxie was there and Yon was there. Everybody was there. But the room was crowded. So it was an overflow room. It turned from 50 people to 250 people

in the middle of fucking corona. We couldn't have it in Chicago. We had to have it all the way in Johnny yet. I was about to ask you that. How do it? Because a lot of funerals... They didn't nobody want to take them. They were scared somebody was going to come in there

and fuck their shit up for his body. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying? So what's the process of like even booking a funeral? And then like, how do you out send the locations out? Well, a lot of front of our homes don't do gunshot victims no more. They, yeah, a lot of fun homes in Chicago, right? They've avoided gunshot phones because gang related, all type of stuff, you know, like,

Dooskey Funnel got shot up. Like, a lot of these funeral homes don't feel this like. And that's why we had to have Ducks Funnel and Joliette. That's so crazy that they have to go to such a extreme measure. But even, like, you know that he's having a funeral on Joliette, like how often like how quick are you sending the address out to people to tell him where it's gonna be out is that like a precautions being made just we are the list and that's where it kicked off at 25 from my side and 20 side 5 from his

dad's side so that's where it kicked off a lot of people are we ain't on the list we ain't on the list yeah this man got 25 5 I only got shit I got seven kids so I'd have Got there my aunties, my sisters, my brothers. Yeah. Y'all just come. That's what I don't worry about the list. Just come. That's what I was telling them.

And the people that came, came. And everyone was still able to get in regardless. I didn't see cash, but him and Fasiority came to the repast. Yeah. He was out there with me for the repast. Like, so that's why I'm like, all this internet should be so fool to me. Like, I'm going to let them have it, though.

They can have their stories and run with it. But yeah, that's our reality. They're playing with it, though. But this is really our lives for real. What irritates you the most out of everything you see or people might get got you fucked up about? When they say I'm cloud chasing off my son. As I'm cloud chasing my son, I birthed him.

I shared him with the world. That's my son. I am the cloud. Why the fuck is I'm clout chasing my son? He was the clout. Yeah, me going to say they do anything for Cloud, though. They did say that. Imagine if I trademarked that word.

Cloud, yeah. I don't think we could. It's been around forever. All right, just like I can't trademark duck. Not all right. Duck is like, but there's an animal in like, but with like cloud. It's a sand.

It's a c. Cloud goes back like hundreds of years. Where, but I mean, He did like, he started, he had Cloud as his thing before all the phase guys. Remember, they were like Cloud House, all the SoundCloud rappers. They started saying Cloud. Like, he was weirdly early on that. Yeah.

Because he was Big Cloud. Yeah. I mean, if it wasn't for you, Ducks a Legacy would probably get discussed a lot less. You know, you've really been flying the flag for people that kind of be forced to, look at his life and say look how f*** up this street shit is and that's the point that's why I be so vocal I want them to see

the downfall from this shit because that rise only lasts for so long that downfall going to be so hard right it's going to smack you know it's it takes more time to climb to the top right if you jumped off a clip how long how many seconds you think it's going to take for you hit the bottom

I mean you know 10, 20 seconds would be like the highest. That's how it is. I mean, there's infinite people out here, especially even like the younger generation of drill rappers now who make killing and beefing look fun and sexy and, you know, like a great way to spend your life

just like the generation before them did. The image. It's not a reality. It's some people's reality, though. Some people turn it into their reality. Don't know, let me ask you, do you believe Dirk was a gangster or you'd feel like music turned,

him into that over the years. You want my honest opinion? Yeah, I actually. When Dirk was doing the auto tune, I liked him more because he was really showing his crowd. Like, I'm not going to sit up here and say that we ain't listen to their music. My baby listened to all their music.

He used to love Luzet song, bawling these bitches. Like, he'll just, he'll be cleaning up to that shit with his head. I'd be like, what you listen to? He's like, bawling these bitches. He'll put it on the speaker And I'd be like Oh, who's saying that? He'll be like, oh, Luzet.

Yeah. So he never hated. He never hated music. If it was good, he was fucking with it. But the question I asked, do you think Dirk was a gangster for real? Or do you feel like the music path and the people who hung around

kind of astrayed him to like... Well, his mom said in the book, he robbed somebody when, took her gun and when they robbed somebody at nine years old. That's gangster shit. That's gangster shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So for me to say he wasn't,

do I think he was a gangster? In a sense, he always had it in him. Yeah. But I think having those entities around him and bringing vine in the mix, kind of. Gas-slided or, like, you know, put more fuel. Put more fuel to the fire, yeah.

But I don't think that. I think he was forced to be the way he ended out. I think the influences around him. On the outside looking in, and I just think the influences that he had around him wasn't good. Not saying that they didn't mean him well, because they protected them.

I mean, that's what they were for to protect him. So they basically did their child. But when it comes to the moral aspect of it, it was wrong. And these are the consequences you're going. By innocent to prove a guilty. So he's just going through his storm like that. And only God is the only person that can give him the outcome of that that's to be expected.

Do you think if Dirk was to get released, he would go back to like the same drill sound? Or you think this is going around here probably have a change mentality. That baby got released, baby. He's going to, he probably turned to the Pope. I ain't gonna hold you He fucking Don't do nothing You feel like it's a wake up call right

God gave him that Like if he should get that chance Again And who's to say He didn't get the chance I already How much shit he thought he got away with God gave him plenty chances

Don't y'all think What do you think is going to be the outcome of his trial You think he's going to get found guilty or not guilty? I don't know but I know I've seen that that's Stefan Mac shit with AJ and Marley

so I mean look happens one thing maybe they probably they strategically ain't gonna charge him with that until they see he beat the other one I don't know how the federal government

but I'm just saying like because if they got this evidence on him why they're not charging him now that is what's crazy is the feds like let him him spend a couple years preparing his defense for this one charge and then at the last minute they just add all this other shit.

That's the federal government. Yeah. And even with somebody like Dirk who got a lot of money, I mean. Puffy got a lot of money too. What's the name, boy? What's the man name? Gold snake. What's his name?

Who? Epstein. He had a lot of money too. He said he's still alive somewhere though, right? I don't think so. He's dead, but he had two outages. Money? is the root of all evil.

Yeah, but I'm just saying that, like, them putting more charges on them like that, what's that another million dollars in legal bills? I mean, they could really fuck him up. I think I would just give up. I mean, I give up. I ain't never telling nobody to give up. Ooh, I didn't mean to say that.

But when the chips is stacked against you like that, I just feel like, I don't know. I know I'd be telling brick a duck ass, boy, your ass is in the shit. shit now this is what you gonna do that's what I would have been doing I don't get a fuck you stick into a cold

that apparently ain't the cold because these people are going to testify against him like according to the these same of he fed these same of he protected these same motherfuck as he gave opportunities to

are going to tell on him that right possible why risk that he got How many babies, 10, loving mama, beautiful wife. Like, I don't know. I just, I can't do nothing, but just move to the side and just allow God to work.

It's not my call. One last question I do have about the Dirk situation. He shot the aha music video, and then during that same day, he did the million dollars worth of game interview. And the court documents, they're trying to. I cried. when I seen it. Like I was watching Wally.

Walo. Walo. Yeah, he just poured his heart out to them. Telling them to change their lives. You don't know the power of forgiveness. Well, let me finish what I was going to say. So in that same day that they shot the music video and he had the Walo and Gilly interview, the million dollars worth the game, they had a million dollars on the table or whatever.

They're trying to say that he supposedly paid off a hit to some of the guys that day. That's the AJ got. So if AJ pleaded guilty for murder for hire and got 30 years, when you plead guilty, that means you got to tell everything that happened, right? You got to tell who pays you, right?

That's a part of the deal, right? So we ain't going to know. They ain't having no trial. Yeah. But who's to say they won't pop up at do shit? No, that's right. There's a whole bunch of cocaine.

conspirators that aren't that they've been named that everybody is just and now I don't know too much about this case you know because it's not my child involved in it so I don't really know too much I'm only going off what the paperwork saying and I didn't know nothing about the paperwork to me and trap Lord till he broke it down like I was so consumed with my grandbaby I wasn't even on the internet I wasn't even caring about what was on the internet is the is your fight on Only for ducking your children or even after the people who did whatever they did the duck get sentenced? Are you going to continue this fight? I have an organization called Mothers a Peace, I abbreviated mop.

And I have been extending the Isle of Franks to all the mothers that lost their kids, especially to this senseless shit like this. You would think I would have a million mothers. It's 10 of us. Who's one of the, who's more outspoken of the other mothers? Besides me? Yeah, besides you, because we don't really get to. I would say Tuka, Mama, I would say Dominique. But we don't really get to see her hear from her besides like one interview a couple years ago.

Yeah, you're right. Everybody got their own reasons why they're not outspoken. I have my reasons why I am. You think it's safety reasons, though? Because a lot of it could be, they feel for their safety. They got to have other kids. You don't think I worry about my safety?

I think you do, but I think you're more so like, fuck my safety. This is bigger than just me. God ain't going to allow it to come out my mouth if it ain't meant to be said. I don't know if I'm here on a mission or something because I've been so hands on and I got so much involved

because my kids are two other voices. It's in this drill shit. And I don't know why other moms don't speak out. But, and guess who else I've been talking to? That's my girl. Mo three's mom? Nicole. Shout out Nicole.

That's my girl. That's not how you're talking about. No, that's not who I'm talking about. Shout out little snoop, Mama, Nisha. Shout out Quaylor. That's a little pop mom. So who was you talking about just now? I was talking about Mimo's mom.

Oh, word. Yeah, we family. Well, we never had no problems, you know, with the situation with Ryan and her son and stuff. But, yeah, and if a lot of mothers just look at the big picture, a lot of us would talk. Like, what can we do? Our babies is gone. So we either going to be bitter or get better. I got grandkids, man.

I can't. Like, I don't want them to... Like, my grandson, Rahim, he told my nephew of Milla, and this was so sad because he only fin to be six. And he was talking to him because in my door of the house

it's a picture of me and duck over her TV. She got like a 70-inch TV in her front, but me and duck, it's a big old picture of me and duck. and duck over a TV. And my nephew say, that's my cousin, Dup. So

Rahim said, yeah, and you know what happened to him? So he was like, he got shot. And Rahan was like, and do you know about who? He was like, no, about who? He was like, King Vonn. He's six. Yeah. my gone baby six and he was only eight months when Doug died

like he was the baby when Doug died he was born in July matter of fact he was three weeks he was born July 29th Doug got no he wasn't even that old 2020 he was born July 29th 2020 and Duck got killed August 4th 2020 I want to share something and this was off camera but I happen to witness it And I thought it was like, damn, I was just hearing you have that conversation kind of stood out to me. So when we was in Florida or maybe two weeks ago, you was talking to somebody in your family, but it was a kid.

And the kid that you was talking to was mad at the other kid in your family because they were listening to King Vaughn's music. And that kid was saying, we don't fuck with Vaughn. And you corrected them. And you told him, don't let him decide who he like and don't be so harsh on him. He don't know anything about Vaughn's. but you were still standing up and saying that was wrong for them to be having that dispute. I won't even let my kid listen to Kendrick. Lamar?

Yeah, that's the whole thing. I love Kendrick Lamar. But do the family, like even the young family members feel like they have to choose a side? My mom, baby got into a fight at school with some boys because they know who her uncle is. And they said they were smoking on duck. and she ran off and chased these four boys as if she can beat them. I say they could have been tricking you, babe.

You see how you look. You don't know what people think. They could have got you off somewhere and did something to you. See, I try to flip the swig on the more important shit because you can't control what people say out their mouth.

Okay, but that situation could have been ugly because you would have caught up with them. they could have did something to you. See, that's the picture I want her to look at. Not that somebody dissing her uncle that they didn't know, that they only know off the internet, that is famous enough to them that they would speak on somebody in that manner.

So I had to tell her, don't be stupid. Don't be chasing nobody, because you're going to see a lot of people that find out that you're some kin to him. and we'll do that. So now it's trickling to my grandbabies. And that's why I'm so vocal. Because at the point I'm feeling like,

y'all better get y'all fucking kids. Because now they're fucking with my grandbabies. And if they thought I went to eat shit about my kids, can you imagine how I be about my grandkids? So I'm going out of Illinois real, real soon, though. So I got plans. I'm moving. Probably come here.

You got a job for me out. Wow. You ain't got a female host on, do y'all got a female No Jumpa Hope? Not really. Did you have one? We had a few. Like the Jessica or something.

You ain't got a Mama Duck, though. We ain't had a Mama Duck. I didn't think about that. I think God be a good addition to the No Jumpa Podcast. That's not the worst idea, right? Yeah, I think it'll be good. Hmm. How long you in LA for?

To the first. To the first. That's a little bit, huh? Yeah. I'm going to a BET Awards. Oh. So I got my blonde hair. So you're going to the actual awards?

Yeah. Oh, wow. I'm going. I've gotten an amazing, you know, an amazing. I was told, just get in the building, Mama Duck. We got you. Yeah. So I got in a building.

I'm going to see if I could get some red copper shots or something. Wow, that's cool. I'm glad I was invited. That's tough. Maybe we'll get there one day. You know, we ain't, we ain't let me got the cloud yet. Really? No.

But anybody can go, right? Just I try and get them red carpet. I mean, we sent people there to the rare carpet and I did media stuff in the past. They asked me to vote, but I never responded to those emails. So maybe that's part of the problem. Oh, excuse me, vote for what? Like the winners? Well, Drewski, I picked a good year to come.

because Yuski gonna be host. I say I'm gonna pull a sexy red so he can notice me. There you go. Pat, no. Oh, shit. Did y'all know that duck gave her that name? No way.

He originated that? He gave her that name. What? I knew they hung out, but I didn't think he gave her the name. Because she was like, you saw Cal, the status update. I seen the status update, exclusive. I'm a, it's sexy something. And he was like, she had the red hair.

He was like red, sexy red. And she ran with whatever since that. She ran with. I like sexy red. I'm fucking. Because she always dated her. I mean, to my baby. And shout out sexy.

I think she dating she key to you know. I wouldn't care. That's what I'm saying. A lot of these rappers then dated some of duck ex-girl. What's a night in the cup world of days? I'm drunk as hell. cut water. That used to be Duck X

back in the day. Who out? Corey, y'all know Corey. She's the one shanked them up and shit. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me see. Yeah, Duck was a lady's man. He's asking to shut all that shit down, though.

He was going to marry her, so. We knew that. They was getting married then when he turned 30, which would have been in 20. I think, because he was 26 when he died in 20. So we were planning to be in Jamaica for our island with. He proposed to it and everything, gave her the ring and stuff.

She's six years in and still holding it down, baby. Shout out jazz. Oh, that's tough. So what would you say are your goals going forward? Like what do you want to accomplish over the next few years? I want my organization to be real vocal. I wanted to just, I have a lot of, I'm writing a book. I'm almost finished.

I was really trying to just finish it after these sentences. That was going to be like the last chapter. Once I get the sentencing date, get over the sentencing date. And then I think that's when I can really, I can honestly say, These citizen dates been kind of stagnating me on what I really, really want to do because it's like a hinder. And I don't know why these people haven't sentenced them yet. Like they've been convicted. Yeah.

So it's not like they can make deals or nothing because they've been convicted already. And every last one of them was convicted for the murder of Carlton Weekly. which is mandatory life. So what is it to negotiate? I don't know. But maybe it's a good thing because I could say I'm ready, but I'm probably really, really not.

I'm anticipating it, though. For real. Thank you for coming through and doing this. I appreciate you being willing to patch it up and everything. Yeah, I'm glad I could help facilitate the squash out beef. way so I'm back to you facilitate some stuff. I'm glad y'all back on good terms. Yeah, I don't hold no grudges.

I mean, that's the first thing that six and I said in the interview. Y'all did Remo making all the plays. I tend to do a little of what I can. I guess. But it was a pleasure. Oh, yeah. I got nothing by respect for you,

and I appreciate what you bring to the game. And don't go behind my back and say no funny shit like you did the last time. You say, you sorry this time. We cool now because I'm trying to be on that side. Okay. Okay. Just don't flirt with me and I won't have to tell the world about it.

Man, if you was a little bit darker, maybe tan, you probably would. I can get a tan. Too late. I haven't been to a good time. I ain't been in the pool. I haven't been getting too much sun recently, but they got some good peptides too if you want to make your skin darker. No. Let everybody know where they can find your YouTube channel.

stuff too. Plug area. I gotta get a new one. Mama duck the cloud chases sling. Spell it out because people spell it M-A-M-A-M-A or M-O-M-O-M-M-A. No, it's M-O-M-O-M-M-A. There you go. Mama.

M-M-M-A. Not MoMA. So it's M-A-U-U-M-UK. All right, just M-A-Duck. The Clout Chaser Slayer. Come on. Like Buffy, the Vampire. I'll slay all the clops.

And we're probably going to have your IG tag anyway, but just if they ain't got it. duck oh gee my Instagram my um tic-tok is miss highly favorite forever faithful is my TikTok my um my um Facebook is Leshina Weekly and one of my only fans go to my pio oh you still got the only fans yeah I still got my only fans and it be busing and I shout out to all my subscribers y'all Mama dut, love, y'all. I'll be cooking on there. Oh, where. Yeah.

Giving our recipes and shit. You know, I make it useful. I feel it. I feel it. I got the tap down. No, I just appreciate you pulling up and doing this with us. And much respect for everything you've been through and the message that you're trying to impart on your city and the whole game. I hope they start listening.

I hope I resonated to somebody because my. Contentions are really good. I am one of those no-nonsense type of momas. No bullshit. I get lenient sometimes, but it's just some shit that need to be approached and talked about. And people scared like, I think I'm going to get some merchandise that say, let's address the elephant in the room. There you go.

Some mama duck merchandise. Don't nobody steal my shit. That's a good idea. That's the kind of thing everybody says, but you could make it yours. Yeah, let's address the elephant in the room because that's the problem. Everybody want to picket shoes or who's shady, who snicks and who this and who that. That's kind of like throwing the brick at your head. No.

That's why I'm a clock chase asleep. Oh man, Mama Duck in the building. Let's go. Shout out to Remo. Mama Duck, thank you so much for your time. Okay. Appreciate you. No Jumper.

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