No Jumper - MudBaby Ru on West Memphis, Gun Class, Gucci Mane Blocking Him & More

Episode Date: December 20, 2022

Mudbaby Ru is going way up right now and has plenty of eyes on him! He sits down with Adam and Lush to talk about his rise, being from West Memphis, Arkansas, his plans on signing a deal, lyricism, be...ing a country boy, and more. https://www.instagram.com/mudbaby_ru/ ----- 00:00 Intro 2:00 MudBaby on the impact of his "Famous Animal Tv" freestyle had on his career 5:29 Growing up in West Memphis and how the Walmart parking lot was always popping 6:23 MudBaby speaks on forgiving his father for not being around and focusing on the people that actually supported him 8:35 MudBaby talks being drawn to a lot of Chicago music 9:30 Adam asks MudBaby if Three 6 Mafia still matters to the younger generation of rappers coming out of Memphis 12:32 MudBaby on not really getting in trouble when he was younger because he never got caught 14:30 The pressure in Memphis to get involved in the streets 20:42 MudBaby on not really listening to Yo Gotti or Young Dolph growing up and gravitating towards more Chicago music 22:23 MudBaby on tapping in with other up and coming artists from his area 26:20 MudBaby on how Facebook still being a big thing in Memphis 27:02 MudBaby reacts to Lush playing his music on the No Jumper stream which ended up landing the interview 28:42 Thinking about dumbing down his music because he felt like people couldn't comprehend some of his punchlines 33:03 Mudbaby on the cultural difference between LA and Memphis, having to repeat himself a lot and feeling like a country boy while he's out here 34:40 MudBaby credits his lyricism to his open mind when it comes to listening to music 37:34 MudBaby on being offered to sign to Gucci Mane for $50k and a chain, getting blocked by him on social media, and telling Gucci he should sign his homie instead 41:32 MudBaby says he'd rather sign to a major label than an artist 42:39 MudBaby on the moves he needs to make right now to get to the next level 43:53 Not wanting to move to LA, still having plans to move out of the hood, and wanting to move to the outskirts of Georgia 45:20 MudBaby on if he had the opportunity, he would never fumble a Drake verse 48:31 Mudbaby on how coming from the mud inspired his artist name ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today we bring you Mud Baby Roo on the podcast. Let me explain how this happened is. So the other day, we did a two-hour-long Twitch stream where we were playing all of our favorite songs for each other. And this was one of Lush's favorite songs. Lush said, check out this song, Gun Class. He put it on. Had to.
Starting point is 00:00:20 We were all going crazy. Appreciate it. I started immediately looking up. Mud Baby Roo interviews, couldn't really find much. I was like, we got to reach out. We got to make it happen. It's crazy. It's my first one. Right.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Because that song only came out like two weeks ago, right? No, it's September. Like 1.9 in the month. It just rolled over the two months on the 13th. Okay. We shot it November 13th. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:42 So has it been kind of crazy? You've been getting a lot more attention than you ever got before? Well, we went out. When we started popping out, going straight, but when I hit their famous animal and got like it, it went. That freestyle. Yeah. So you went on, this is like a show.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Where are they located out of? Memphis. Memphis. So I'm in West Memphis, Arkansas. I'm not from Memphis. Right. But we got, like, Memphis is a heavy, it's a impact. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:07 So you're from West Memphis, Arkansas, which is right near Memphis, but not actually part of Tennessee. Just a bridge. If the bridge drying out, you can walk over there now. But that's kind of confusing to people that goes from. Nah, it's like, I don't know. Like, real close. We're like, if you, it's nine minutes away. But you feel like you rep Memphis and Arkansas?
Starting point is 00:01:28 I feel like I'll rip Arkansas but Memphis people accept me like that ain't just, you know Right Like, because my family live in Memphis So I got my grandma and still live over there
Starting point is 00:01:38 Right What would you say is the biggest difference Between Memphis and West Memphis Obviously Memphis is a big city Is it tiny? The size West Memphis is low We got one Walmart
Starting point is 00:01:49 It's three junior highs Like And they all go to one high school Right But I moved away I moved out of West Memphis The next one way, The next train track over and marry.
Starting point is 00:02:00 This is why I do with my, like, music and shit. If I drop video, it's where most of my homeboys from. Right. So when you got on that famous animals thing, though, that really sent your career going in a big direction? Like, what was it? It went viral? No, it went stupid.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Right. Like, because, like, how it was, I was just getting bored chilling. The crib. And, like, I had gun class, but I just, I didn't really care for it. You didn't know it was that good? Yeah. But the guys, they always, you know, they like listening to it.
Starting point is 00:02:31 So I usually just made music for them. They bump it. I ain't really care to put music out. So they were like, I did a famous animal before. It went up. Like, I'd say, it's like at 300K, but it stopped. So I went back the second time. And I decided, I was like, what song I'm going to do?
Starting point is 00:02:48 And like, it cut the, like, the freestyle. Like, I ain't say, you know, they'd be like, how he freestyle in his boys in the back rapping? I'm like, I'd say, I got the best verse then. We would put like that is, you know, well, that's a, people, there's two different definitions of freestyle. There's a traditional, like, off the dome freestyle.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I just feel like it was on spot. No, but people like, in New York, they've been calling just any random verse you got a freestyle for decades now. So you're not wrong. And I know that a famous animal, that's like a real right of passage for up-and-coming artists out there.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Like, that's like out here we got L.A. leekers, you know, sway. that's like a, if you come on a famous animal and come correct, you're going to get some recognition. You had the energy in that room, too. All your homies turning up. I guess it's kind of like a freestyle, because it wasn't rehearsed either.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Right. Like, there was off raw energy. Like, the guys in the back, they was just like, they couldn't help me. I couldn't tell them. I couldn't tell them to chill out, be quiet. They're going to balk, regardless. So I ain't know what son to do.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I was in the car, like, on the way there. I was like, I just did want to this Nardo weekbeat. I was like, I need another one. They was like, do it. Do gun class. I was like, I don't know if it's going to hit. They was like, just do gun class. So, I told him just cooked it up.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Then, like, he was like famous. Like, he usually ad-lib a lot. You know, he was like, let go down. He said this. Like, when in the end, he was like just staring at me like type of shit. He was like, oh, we about to post this. Ace out. I don't, I didn't even, he edited it so fast.
Starting point is 00:04:18 He dropped in like two days later. He usually takes like a week, but he was like, we got to get this out. He knew he had one. Yeah. So it was that going up on like TikTok and Instagram reels and everything like that as well? Because it doesn't have that many views on YouTube, right? Like I feel like it went viral on other platforms as well. You're talking about for the famous on my page is at 1.9.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Oh, so you have it on your page as well. Oh, the official video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like the famous on me, it's at 500. I don't know. Oh, is it that much? Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Okay. Now, something that I know that the streets of West Memphis really want to know and the world at large. We were talking about food earlier. What is your order at Dodge's chicken? Chicken. I'm saying, though. You got to be more specific, though.
Starting point is 00:05:01 But you mean, you walk in there, I need a fried chicken. It's hot. Hot wings, breed. This is the only, this is the only crunchy hot wing I eat. Other than it, if I'm somewhere else out of time, I've got to get them wet. It's dodged. This is this spot. That's that lick right there, right?
Starting point is 00:05:17 Yeah. What y'all call, like, potato wedges? French fries, wedges. Wedges. Like the fat ones. Yeah, we call them. You go in there and get you some Jojo. Some Jojo.
Starting point is 00:05:27 We call them Jojo. Get you some Jojo. Right. Little me is straight. So what was your upbringing like? Take us back to your childhood if you could. I grew up on, like, all right. So you know how like Memphis got like East Memphis, South Memphis, North Memphis.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Stop. Right. Go to like White Haven and shit like that. But we across the bridge, so we're West Memphis. But I grew up on the north side of West Memphis. Like, but everything, like it's so jump. Jump over together. It's like, phew.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Tell you. If you into it with somebody, you're going to see them at Walmart or something. It all goes back to the Walmart, huh? Yeah, mostly everybody could. The whole city. The Walmart parking lots cracking. Oh, yeah, they used to be the spot. They're going to walk at Walmart.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Like, just a spot. We ain't got, like, it ain't nowhere, like, just chill out there, so shit. The biggest spot, the most lit up place probably is the Walmart. Right. No, especially when I was a kid, that was pretty much the only place where there was anything going on past, like, 11 p.m. If you ain't had no video game, shit, pull up the Walmart, break your neck. Look at the screen, play all day. So you grew up with both parents, or what was your family like?
Starting point is 00:06:33 I grew up with my mom, my grandma and my uncle's. My dad, he was in and out, you know how they go. He's cool. I fought him. Right. I forgave him for the shit. For just not being around? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:45 But I don't just like, I forget. He's just like that. But you don't feel close to him? Nah. Just be cool. Right. Like, I feel like if I feel like if I feel like, gave him.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Shit, it's, it's a new. As he tried to, like, come into your life more as you got older? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:07:00 it's just, like, wrong time. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm eventually gravitate back to
Starting point is 00:07:06 him, but right now, I'm just focus on the folks that will help me at that moment. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:11 My grand and my mama, and my mom and my mom two brothers, like, them, them,
Starting point is 00:07:15 my family, like, yeah, it's close. Other than them, I got the guy, but shit, this is my,
Starting point is 00:07:20 like, like, shit, what the only most. How old are you, bro? 21, my birthday, December 29. Okay. Okay, so you're about to turn 22.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Right. Okay. And so what was the environment like, though? Like, what was your family, was there music in your house? Or, like, what was the environment like? Yeah. She, everybody talented in music, my family, all that. Like, well, this church, shit, everybody's, I feel like every, I don't care where you're
Starting point is 00:07:49 from. If you're from small city, you're going to be brought up in a church. somehow. I used to play drums in the church. I don't know how to read music, none of this shit. If they just, I can just play by the ride, whatever out here, I can catch on to it. So shit, I always been good at me. My mama, she's singing gospel and shit. Did you grow up on a lot of Memphis rap, like 8-ball MJG, 3-6 mafia and all that?
Starting point is 00:08:13 I just love their beats. Okay. But who I grew, I like, young Papi. Okay. We born Papi and Keith for like. That's Chicago shit. Like how which Memphis is. It's like, me and somebody else, we just blew.
Starting point is 00:08:25 We like the first two that will get a foot in the, like in the dough from where Memphis. So we don't gravitate towards nobody, really, unless they like the next big thing like type of shit. So if we sitting in the crib just scrolling on YouTube, young pepper just dropped. Shit, we're gonna bump that. Keith just dropped, 2015-Keefe. But why do you think that stuff appealed to you so much? Is it because shit was so real, shit was going down around there, that you were drawn to this extremely violent drill music? Like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:52 I just like what they were saying. Like, I'm like, God damn. It's so violent, but how he's saying it makes it feel okay. There's a lot of people from Chicago that move down there, right? Like, Arkansas, shit, it's deep. You can come across a lot of people from here. Because, like, well, we at Arkansas really close to everything. You got Memphis right across the bridge.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Keep going three hours out. Now we're in Nashville. Go to obviously where in Arkansas, three hours out. You in St. Louis. then extra five hours we in Dallas. Everything. Right. You don't, like, feel isolated there.
Starting point is 00:09:27 You feel like you could go to all these different places? You can, but the average person doesn't. If you're stuck in with me if you're isolated. Right. So, okay, does the average, because you're real young. Us moving around is me if. Right. All right, 36, my favorite came out, like, late 90s, mid-90s.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Like, do you feel like they still matter to the young generation? Because I feel like a lot of the sound, you still hear it. Like, you listen to a fucking Drake record or, like, a lot of these, like, some of the biggest artists are doing beats that are using Project Pat, samples,
Starting point is 00:09:57 gangsta boo, etc. They, they shit legendary. Like, you just ain't going to catch nobody my age. It's like bumping that shit. Right. But if you hear the Turley Club or beat, we're going to go in the O and put our type shit on there.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Like, we ain't going to rap how they rap. We're going to put, like, the new 2020, shit, 22, shit on their beats. Keep the classic beats. but rap how we do our own shit throw out of our own song. Right. I love them beat. It only makes sense because I mean, 3-6 would remake the same song.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Like, Tear the Club Up, they remade that song many times over the years. And then even if you were a kid nowadays, you could listen to the fucking Travis Scott record that damn near has that hook on one of the songs, you know? Yeah, it's like, realistically, that's the kind of song that is meant to be made and remade over and over throughout time, I guess.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And even that Who Run It Beat, well, that's a old-ass song. I got one of the... I actually got the Who Run it on Sound Club. That's why that beat came back out. Yeah, it was a little challenge. A few years ago, everybody, yeah, it went crazy. Like, we got it.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Them challenges influence us too, because we feel like, oh, shit, I do this challenge, I'm gonna blow. Shit, Migo, he had their rock star challenge. Everybody in the city, we're doing a rock star challenge. When did you first realize, though, that you, like, I know you said you was musical at an early age, you was playing the drums and all that.
Starting point is 00:11:13 What made you gravitate towards actually rapping, though? And, like, what was that all about? Always. is corrupt. Like, no, there's like a cliche answer, though, but like, on some real shit, like, I ain't, like, I was bad as a kid, but I was sneaky. Like, I'd go sneaking around and hide this shit so my, like, block my mama type of shit, so she won't see what I'm talking about on that shit. But, like, I say, like, I got videos. I'm like 12, 13. I'd say, like, 13 and shit, that when I started, like, actually, like, putting beats on YouTube and recording the
Starting point is 00:11:43 phone and shit. But then, like, I went viral in high school. I hit a million viewers. using like 5a me and the guy we were just in the shit and shit I was freestyle in there motherfucker but I did it to a beat and they called me they were like can't do that to the video down in their video deleted oh you took like you took a beat from you yeah but I wasn't shit I wasn't making no money out of and I just freestyle to it like that must have hurt though you have your first glimpse of what it would be like to go viral and then they take it from you in high school it is popping yeah hit a mid and then but did you like
Starting point is 00:12:16 re-upload do another version but I got, I ain't gonna lie. I was like, you can ask anybody that beer, they put me in a slump. I was like, fuck, right. I just hit a million views for absolutely nothing. All y'all producers got to let these high school kids live, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Come on, bro. That's scandalous. So was you like, as far as the street shit, was you getting in trouble at an early age, or were you kind of like laying lower? What was that like? I ain't never get caught. Okay. Sneaky.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Right. Be a lot of shit. But, like, as far as, like, me blatantly putting shit in folks' face, say, like, about 16. When I started, like, letting my mom in the nose, like, shit. Can't keep hiring this shit, real. You got a freestyle that you had a reel on your IG. Real dope, by the way, you was going crazy.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And you was talking about, like, you were talking about your pops in there, you feel me? You said your daddy was a GD and all that, and you was talking about, like, how that, did that influence you? No, I'm saying, he, I got it, my dad, is so. Okay. But I'm saying, like, I got this shit from my dad. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's in the shit, that's what he, like, he was in the street.
Starting point is 00:13:28 That shit is just in my, she's just in it. But was your dad around a little bit when you were a kid, like you were getting to see him here and there? Yeah, yeah. And was he. Like, glimps his home and shit. But I'm guessing that he was in the streets, pretty heavy, it sounds like. Yeah, yeah. And so.
Starting point is 00:13:41 He's the first one kid's me smoking. How about shit, about living? He got you smoking a little. I walked like, I ain't know he lived in some apartment shit, so I ran bound. He was like, hey, I was like, who was that? I walked by and like, damn, it's my daddy. And what he said? He was like, you high?
Starting point is 00:13:56 I was like, mm-mm. He said, he already knew, like, just stopped lying. Like, he didn't really, he got on it. He was mad, but shit. Damn, but so. 11 is crazy. I was 12. I thought that was, you know.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Smoking at 11? Yeah, but in general, it's like just a crazy scenario because it's like, yeah, you know, I could have used this guidance a couple years ago. Like, you could have been telling me. this other times, right? That's why I was so sneaky because I was like, I was bad, but I cared about the air.
Starting point is 00:14:23 You know what I'm saying? Like, I wasn't trying to deal then when I got back to the crib so everything I did, I just swept this shit on the rug. Because my uncles and I'm like, they was dead. So growing up in your area, though,
Starting point is 00:14:33 is there a lot of, is it pressure for you to, you know, really get in the streets? Or you feel like in terms of the gang shit, is that a big presence there? Yeah, it's a big prison. It's been there. But, like, in West Memphis, it ain't really no gang shit.
Starting point is 00:14:49 It's cliques with a whole different gangs in that motherfucker. Like, in my shit, the 40-boys shit, you got everything. Crip, Vilo, all this shit. We don't do that shit. But it's, like, size. They beef hard on size. So it's block-to-block-block type of shit? Block-to-block, click-to-cliq, side-to-side.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Because Memphis always tripped me out because where it's located, you know, like you said, in the middle of the fucking map. So you got L.A. gangs, you got Crips and Bloods, and you also got Chicago gangs, G.D.'s, vice lords and all that. And it's all kind of mixed together. Yeah, you don't have the adult. Got to. Shit, you ain't, it ain't going to be nobody forcing you in the streets. But, shit, if you got day one niggas that you been with, like, niggas I've been with since kindergarten,
Starting point is 00:15:34 they just go off and do them, shit. I'm like, this is my day one. I'm going to go on. It ain't nobody just going to, I knew not to, I ain't never let on it peer-pressed me in the shit. Anything I did, shit. That's on me. So your crew is 40 boys? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And so you don't feel like the street shit necessarily impacts that or whatever, the gang shit. Like you can just kind of fuck with whoever, or is it more complicated than that? Shit, you can fool who else? Who else you want to fool with? But if it's understood that it smoke, you can't play both sides. I just feel like this for anywhere in the city. Like, shit, anywhere in the world, gee, if you got to smoke, you just can't post up and shit. But if you are, most of the niggas that get money, focus on only money,
Starting point is 00:16:18 that's who footh with the whole city. Like, ain't no beef stopping no bread. I mean, many people would tell you. Many people would tell you that it holds L.A. back that so many of the artists feel like they can't fuck with other people because the politics are so complicated here, you know? Oh, yeah. In comparison to a place like Atlanta where it feels like the vast majority of artists work with each other. Oh, how that?
Starting point is 00:16:40 I don't feel like they go. They ain't for me. Yeah, no. So you'll fuck with whoever. Like, yeah, whoever wanna drop, this she's gonna get dropped. Do my mom, shit. I ain't like, I'm just gonna go post up in their hood and say fuck who y'all be with. Cause shit, I got my own problems in this.
Starting point is 00:16:55 If you weren't from my city, shit, I ain't got, shit. I do anything with anybody's shit. You want to draw his music. Because from what I understand, Arkansas right now, is a lot of people want to see in Arkansas that movement raise up. Just go for 49, the other 49 state, they don't go from my shit. my shit like with me if my city like I ain't doing no son with nobody on four right and I'm not doing no song with you before them tough like like if you
Starting point is 00:17:21 just a nigger networking from side to side I just didn't but if you on one side too much yeah but if I'm networking out of state and shit like I ain't with all this shit we're just gonna do what we do and get on I ain't trying like I'll be a certain relationship with certain people but I ain't trying to like get too into me right The reason why, like, you super interesting, bro, is because all of us, we don't really know too much about, when I think Arkansas, Bill Clinton, Darren McFadden, you feel me, Bill Clinton,
Starting point is 00:17:52 I think Scotty Pippen from out there, Neo, and banging a little rock, you feel me, like, banging a little rock. I actually got, he said, we don't know nothing, but gang, bang, I got there in beginning one of my son, like that intro. So you saw that movie growing up and all that? No, I just watched it, like two years. years ago. Okay. Because one of my
Starting point is 00:18:13 coaches for the basketball team, his app, he's from Little Rock. So shit, we always I just look into politics anywhere, though. Like, I'm a big, like, go on YouTube, like, before I actually got on this shit, I'd go on YouTube, look up like, like, he said,
Starting point is 00:18:29 shit, Chicago beef, St. Louis beef, Jacksonville, beef. That's all you're going to see on my YouTube here's doing, like, shit. We're looking in politics trying to see how shit working East City. Right. But were you equally interested in watching that kind of stuff about your city? Shit, ain't nobody came and did that type of shit for us. Because, like, the city is dangerous, but we really low-key with shit.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Right. Like, with Memphis, it hit, like, no three on the murder all the time in Arkansas or something type of shit. Right. But we don't really too much, like, we don't drop. Like, if you're going to, if you dissing a nigga in Arkansas, it's going to be subliminal. Right. Like, not on no scary shit, but I feel like niggas got certain respect for niggas dead. type shit just a little bit fun because they don't really niggas don't really nigh drop but if you
Starting point is 00:19:15 nine drop it's gone because all right this is a thing that we've seen happen to multiple rappers from Memphis where they pop off and they sign to you know one of the the big dogs in memphis and then it comes out later on that they had Facebook statuses back in the day talking about how they maybe liked the other guy versus the other guy you know I'm not trying not to be disrespectful because you know god bless the dead r r r rbdorf and everything but But growing up, was that like a big thing for you in high school and shit of just kind of observing these Memphis crews and the beef and everything? I said 10th grade.
Starting point is 00:19:52 10 grade, I was still like, shit, I was still 15. I was still younger than 10 grade. Right. But this is when I used to really gravitate, like, listening to this shit. Look at this shit. I was like, this shit tough. Right. But ain't nobody ever just decided to come shooting those hood vlogs and shit in August.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Right. But we got, it's some shit out there, though, on every side. Like how small it is, I can really do this say shit. Every side really, fuck with my music. Like, niggas from every side going to share my shit. Because it's like how we came up, it's like everything got bad when niggins hit junior high.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Elementary, I'm on the outside of the aisle, go steal a bike or some shit, ride to the east side, fuck with the project. I lived in the projects and shit on the other side. But that's when it started to get real. I had the house on the south side, all this shit. But when niggas hit about 19, 10 grades, certain shit you
Starting point is 00:20:42 here at night you, I broke apart. Were you listening to Margaradi or Dauph growing up? You don't want to Really? Telling you, I was on it
Starting point is 00:20:52 for some of reet I'm telling you like You were a drill out. Like this is like just me This is for anybody This is Memphis If you come to the city There tell you like
Starting point is 00:21:02 Who you listen growing up to? Most niggas to listen to Memphis But like this too close Like this Like we can go across the bridge And see them We're trying to
Starting point is 00:21:10 I told we gravitate towards the biggest shit. You know what's funny? At first, when I heard you saying, like, oh, she fuck with Ruga, yeah, that rapper dude. And I'm thinking, I was like, he's talking about, now I'm thinking he's talking about Ruga from Chicago. And then I realized, like, oh, he's talking about himself.
Starting point is 00:21:26 He's Ruga, yeah, right. Yeah, Roo's standing for Ruga. A lot of the guy, get there too. But then it's weird that you actually are a huge fan of Chicago music. I fuck with him. Yeah. Like, I beat Bummer. Like, you can't.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Both sides. Like, Chicago, like, type of, like, type shit, pick side type shit. bumping everybody. Right. Shit, smirk going to drop. I'm on that. But it makes you curious.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Because you're listening to King Vaughn rap about all these dudes that you might not even know about and then you're all of a sudden curious, like what do he do to make King Vaughn hate him that much? That's what I'm, yeah, yeah, I'm telling you. My YouTube history is for that. But I wasn't, like, I didn't really start, like,
Starting point is 00:22:01 looking in the van until he started coming out more because he was still, like, chilling and shit. Right. But, like. And he was locked up in for the show. I'm looking up like niggia like Rondo number nine, them beef and shit, like that old shit. It's almost kind of embarrassing that I didn't really know as much about King Vaughn as I should have when I did that interview. But also, most of the stuff that I know about them now is obviously shit, you're not bringing up in interviews.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Yeah. As far as like the, you know, there's some fools buzzing in Arkansas right now, like the Little Rock dudes and shit. Are you tapped in with any of them? Yeah. Like the Mucho Remo and all that? I'll be bumping on J.B. Okay. J.B.
Starting point is 00:22:42 and run down Choppel boy. Run down Choppel boy hard. Yeah, that's my guy. And there's a conflict going on between that. Do you feel like there's a lot of division? It's too close to home. Yeah. Lur out two hours from us.
Starting point is 00:22:51 One hour of winning their cat. So you feel like there's a lot of division caused by the Remo and Choppel boy situation? Yeah. I feel like since it's too close to home, you just rebel who you're with. Yeah. I ain't going to, like, long as again, I ain't picking no size of shit. But, like, I just never gravitate to his music. Like the first nigga I started bumping from Little Rock Wood, J.B.
Starting point is 00:23:12 And shit. And my, it's one nigga, now, I forgot. I think one, one, eight, one eight seven, Wuda. I used to bummer, but he went to jail. What about, what about Bankroll Freddy? Nah, we, we ain't, we didn't know he was dropping shit till he came out with his fucking with QC and all that, yeah. Like, we ain't telling you, like, we don't really, like, yo had got to be a real sensation
Starting point is 00:23:36 to catch West Memphis. Like, I ain't even, like, on that. trying to stand that shit, but it's like real because, like, it's so small, we ain't got shit to do, so we go to Memphis. We're going to hear dog from God and, you know. But did you feel like, since you kind of popping now, is there pressure from,
Starting point is 00:23:51 because there's, like, this beef that's dividing the, you know, the state and area, all the cities around there, do you feel like there's pressure for you to kind of, like, pick aside and all that? Hell no. Everybody, like, everybody been in my shit, sharing my shit saying, like, shit, put on for the seat.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I'm putting on for my side, but I'm still putting on for the city to two at the end of the day because they're sitting more to me hard. Do you feel like is Memphis having like a real moment right now over the last couple years? Because you look at it as like Push Icey was kind of like the hottest rapper of 2021 or whatever. And then like Glorillo was kind of the hottest rapper this year in a lot of ways. It kind of feels like Memphis is just getting more consistent with just having hot artists come out of there. I feel like Memphis is going to always get looked. because of the legends that popped out of there.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Right. Like, shit. If you got, like, three, six, they beats gonna last until they didn't retire, cheap, type of shit. You got, like, a lot of shit. Craig Peters, you got famous drug laws and shit from Memphis. So Memphis is always going to be a main target.
Starting point is 00:24:56 So, but people, most people, I ain't going to take that extra little nine minutes come across the bridge and here what we're going to say unless you put it in their faith. But, like, I ain't going to lie. I feel like I got hated a lot once I blew. Because, shit, I ain't got no work. Really?
Starting point is 00:25:14 Real shit? No work ethic. Like, not like, I'm lazy, but, like, I feel like, all my folks, they'd be like, dude, drop, drop, drop, drop, drop. I'm like, bro, this shit gonna, the right one gonna come. When I dropped the right one, it's gonna go. So you're just selective. You're trying to be smart about it.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I'd be chilling. I'm severely chilled for some reason with this shit. Really. So, like, I got like five videos out, like, two, visuals, two famous animals, and like a open mic. I told them, I was like, it's going hit some. Bro, I already know that since you started been blowing up. It's a lot of, it's a lot of niggas in the city that have been rapping since they were about 15 type of shit, like video, video, video, video, interview video, video, dropping bag to bag and bag and back. So you see the value
Starting point is 00:26:03 and spreading it out and making them hunger for more content from me? Yeah, I just felt like if I drop some like 20k views a lot in with me if you because shit we got a thousand people there so if you I'm hitting like on Facebook I use we big on Facebook type shit that's why famous animal on Facebook code like Memphis and we're still huge on their Facebook shit like I just I just found out I was trending on Twitter
Starting point is 00:26:26 because I ain't I got like 12 followers on this shit I don't know if you're in a town of a thousand people Facebook probably seems great you can be friends with everybody you know the whole time yeah if you're Facebook famous you did. Yeah. That's crazy because it's like out here Facebook pretty much for old people like not too many people like under 35 using hell of Facebook like that. Yeah. But then when we got Facebook, the no jumper stuff going on Facebook, it was like the biggest like revelation of like, oh, there's millions of people on there who are down to watch our content. Yeah. They fuck with it.
Starting point is 00:26:57 To Facebook big where we're from. If you pop in on, we call it, we just called it the book. That's what I was going to say. Memphis Rapids, I was to say the book. If you're popping on the book, You just did. I already know that since you started going up, though, I'm sure the DM's going crazy. Like, I'm sure you got a lot more attention. I'm sure you got a lot of females on your line. Yeah, I got a girl, though.
Starting point is 00:27:17 So she, I just be, I just be, I text them to be like, love y'all, but this shit, they just be there. You'd be hard on the message, but you're asking for that number. I respond to everybody, though. I fuck with, like, if they text me and be like, bro, I love your music. I respond to them. I just look at the end.
Starting point is 00:27:31 I like this shit. I like looking at their comments and shit. Like, when y'all posted the video, freestyle, I was just looking at it. I just, like, comment. Oh, so people started posting it and tagging you right away? Yeah. Like, if I, most people just get post shit just to get posing. So, like, mum of the words and shit.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Like, those niggas don't know what they're saying. They just post it. That's why that was a cool stream, though, because we were actually just listening in the shit that we were hyped on, and it didn't feel like promo or anything. So everybody felt like they could trust whatever we played in that moment, you know? Now, this dude did not pay me. I promise you. My little bro, Smokey, shout to him.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Like, I ain't know. nothing about that. Yeah, no, we was just a... On Twitch? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what it was. We were just on Twitch listening to music, and he said to play your shit. We were all jamming out to it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And that's because my little bro was jamming at first, and he was like, yeah, there's that slap right now. And, like, I got, I got homies on the west side of L.A. youngsters that are, that know that shit word for word. To my gunclad. I didn't think this shit made it to the West Coast. Yeah, well... Until, like, I got over here, like,
Starting point is 00:28:32 try to, like, I'd say, if I go into dispensual or something, I, like, tell him to play it. we're in there in the model or some shit, but I didn't really think, like, the West Coast really folk with how we rap in the South. No, but look, fool, like, you got, you got punch lines,
Starting point is 00:28:46 you got structure, like, from a technical perspective, like, you rap, you not just like... But this is crazy, I was about to, I was getting mad because I felt like a lot of people couldn't comprehend
Starting point is 00:28:57 what I was saying, so I was gonna dummy my music. Please don't. But it, like, can't. You felt like you might be more successful if you dumped it down at a certain point? Not like just ABC rap, but just, like, on some... Just rhyming easily.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Like, I don't really think of punchline shit. Like, when I... Their family got shit, I don't know what. That shit was crazy. The Quagmire bar. You got a RuPaul punchline in there. Then I was, like, leave out. Like, the Joe thing...
Starting point is 00:29:23 Yeah, yeah. I would like, shit, maybe they'll get it. But it's, like, a lot of bars that people didn't get in it. So, I don't really just... I mean, my ball. You could definitely be too lyrical and have it be a liability. But I feel like you still... You walk that fine line because you just come with straightforward,
Starting point is 00:29:40 hard street content. If people don't understand the punch lines and all that, you say enough that's relatable and just your whole image in the way you come and they're going to rock with you regardless. But for the people that listen extra, that's why damn me, I wouldn't have been surprised if you had said you listened to more like, even like New York shit or like more than...
Starting point is 00:30:01 Oh, yeah, yeah. I just... I just, uh, they're, what's the niggian? That D-Thane G's on the way off freestyle. Yeah, I fought with that. I didn't know that word of word. I was like, boy, that bitch. It's like, I got a, I got a drill song.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Well, it's me rapping, but how I rap, but he's on a New York beat. That motherfucker's a lot. Okay, you're blowing up with a song called Gun Class. What is the gun culture like where you're from? In the sense, it's like, just everybody got one? Open carry. It is open carry out there, right?
Starting point is 00:30:32 Yeah. So it's just pretty much. Everybody got one? If you're not a feeling, you can walk. We got pawn shops. Where you can go get one? We don't got gun shops. You walk in a pawn shop.
Starting point is 00:30:43 You can walk right back out where they are. Damn. And walk around with it. Yeah. So you just be trotting around, walking down the street with a fucking machine gun hanging out your pants. Yeah, nah. You can, if you want to.
Starting point is 00:30:55 If they call the police shit, and they pull up on you, and it's yours, they're going to hand their big back, you can go. Okay. Do you feel like it's safer when everybody knows that, you know, if you start yelling at some guy at the gas station that he might shoot you. Like, do you think everybody, like, a large percentage of people having guns makes it safer? Do you think it makes it more dangerous?
Starting point is 00:31:15 If the majority of the people in there with guns don't know how to use them, then it's going to be done. It's going to be random shootings. They're going to be random. They got to go to gun class. I can show you what to do. I mean, if you could just go into a pawn shop and get a gun. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Like, the shit you have to do. to get a gun in L.A. It's kind of bullshit. Not just a gun fool and AR. Yeah, right? Yeah. Anyone you want, you can get an F-N. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:43 A.R. A.R. 12. Yeah. To even get a 9mm pistol out here is a whole process. And to get a concealing carry, that's damn near impossible. But you can't buy no pistol until you're 21 out there, though. Okay. So.
Starting point is 00:31:57 But when you're 18, you can walk in and get a full shotgun. You can get a full body AR, as long as they rifles. What's the logic behind that? that makes sense for hunting right like a lot of people hunting yeah technically yeah i like this shit you liked hunting yeah i fought with really i've been duck hunting what's what's that like though you're just out for the whole day or you just go out for a couple hours yeah nah you wake up about phone in the morning uh-huh you got to get on some some chic ha waiters them like waterproof like overall and she just got to sit in the pun and to some dugs land uh-huh and i went dove hunting too
Starting point is 00:32:32 you didn't eat the duck after you just shot it no no no no no I don't eat this. You don't dispose of the body or anything? You just let rock? Just let my boy shoot them, shit. They shoot them on. I'd be like, I'm out there smoking in the hole. Oh, so you weren't shooting them?
Starting point is 00:32:44 Yeah, I can't. I shot the decoy. Oh. You're like, bro, you fucking my shit or? I'm like, my fuck. But shit, when we doff when I smack some duds, though. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Damn. They just fly and you just take aim, or what? Yeah, you got to, but you shoot them with shotguns and shit. Right. So you just pop a duds. You're going to flu. Most people eat duds, but I don't eat them. I just shoot him when I'm with them.
Starting point is 00:33:06 When you're out here in L.A., does it feel like, damn, I'm a country boy? Like, does it feel like there's a big cultural difference between where you're from and what it's like out here? Hell, yeah. I had to repeat myself a lot. This is your first time here? No, no. We've been with her.
Starting point is 00:33:25 My mom usually live in Carson. Oh, okay. I had to repeat myself a lot. You can understand this. Because we say, like, mine and shit, like. Music. Music. Music.
Starting point is 00:33:38 You said it without the R. With music. Music. Yeah. See, you're kind of saying it like reasonable right there. Some Memphis dudes say it's so crazy, bro. Arkansas, we just, shit. Okay, it's a little dumb down on it.
Starting point is 00:33:50 You were a lot easier to understand than a lot of people from out there, though, for us, you feel me? Yeah. Like, you enunciate your words way more than I got homies from out there. Like, say what? What was that? You know what I mean? Like, this shit tough. Okay, but so this is a conversation I was seeing
Starting point is 00:34:05 Hold on, I ain't gonna lie I, I fought with that country shit too Oh, you do? Oh, you do? Oh, for real? Yeah, yeah, I want to do a song, Morgan Wallet. Do you just listen to the radio a little bit here and there You got a couple favorite songs or what?
Starting point is 00:34:19 Freakly Oz's cool Put the Oz song, like what songs, like what genre? Like in country? Oh, yeah Do you have just like a couple songs you fuck with? My specific one. Really? Yeah, they Chris Davidson, Morgan Wallet.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Oh, okay. in my top. I fought with them. Is that the dude that Dirk did the song with? I think, I don't know if you, I think he did one more. But Chris Davidson, he got there,
Starting point is 00:34:40 that Tennessee whiskey junk. Right, okay. Even I know that song. They made it to the barbecue type of shit. Right. Yeah, we're for me. But what's the emotion like when you listen to the country stuff
Starting point is 00:34:51 as opposed to, you know, the street rap that you like? It's all the same emotion. It's just music to me. Like, this is why I feel like, shit, I can be so lyrical because, like, I ain't just focused on just,
Starting point is 00:35:03 one genre I can, I listen to all this shit. Like, if I hear a good rock song, I'm gonna bump that motherfucker. Right. But my, like, my, my mood when I want to listen to a good punk song is different than my mood when I want to listen to your shit. It's like, I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I guess because I, you know, I get it because I actually make music shit and don't affect me that much. If I'm listening to the country, I'm just chilling. I can smoke, chill out the country. The same way I can smoke and chill out to fucking Papi. Mm.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Like this shit, it's just how they say shit. They say what we say, but without this many curseware of shit. Right. Do you think this is a conversation I've seen going on a little bit, do you think that Memphis has a dark energy? Is there something about Memphis that's just kind of different? There's all the, you know, demonic songs, you know? Yeah, it's just different overall.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I just feel like it's a lot of states that is different, but I ain't ever went there. I just feel like you just got to take a little extra precaution when you, the M. But a lot of Memphis niggas don't like coming to Wives Mavis because it's too small. They like moving around. It's enough to move around. It's way, we don't
Starting point is 00:36:13 got no mall or so shit. We want to get some shit. We got to hit the Munch. Right. And I know that Memphis got a crazy drug culture too. You know, I'm good. Yeah, this shit been famous. Like, it's fucking documentary on this shit. 3-6 were the first rappers I ever heard to talk about snoring
Starting point is 00:36:29 Coke and all this other shit. And my dad was rapping like that. He made like a little journal Kyle like horror core or something like that. Oh, he's a horror core rapper? Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Really? That's very interesting. Yeah, from where I mean. Because I mean, a lot of that early three six was kind of classified and that sort of genre. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Because it's like shock value, violence, drugs, all kinds of crazy shit. Like, yeah. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:36:54 But, um, okay, so you don't think, or you do think that there's a little bit of a dark energy or not? Because I was just out in Memphis. I say you got your days. Right. I ain't going to say it's just, I ain't going to say dark energy. They got their dark clouds. I was just in Nashville.
Starting point is 00:37:10 You can go like to certain places to be cozy. Like where most of the Memphis, like Grizzly live, you go where they live and shit, you're cool. When I was just in Nashville, people were talking to me about Memphis like it was like the evil version of Nashville. That's the crazy side of this area, you know? Well, you know, Nashville got his areas too. Memphis way more, way more active. Right. So what the fuck happened with this Gucci main situation?
Starting point is 00:37:39 Talk about it. Because real early on when I heard you, I was like, this dude should sign to Gucci. I was like, he sounds like the kind of rapper that Gucci might want to sign. And then to find out that it went down like this. Shout out. What block you, man? Yeah. So how do you reach out?
Starting point is 00:37:54 Shit, do Instagram. I was in Atlanta on some other shit. and uh I was just like I check my DMs a lot but when I was young like anybody wanted to sign with Gucci especially when he grabbed Shiza we were like oh yeah
Starting point is 00:38:12 but me not working hard shit I didn't really care but I felt like one day shit he'll see it one day so I take some like I want some young shit like I'm trying my life I need that but you got his number yeah yeah Gucci from the DM he like sent me your number so shit we were we would
Starting point is 00:38:29 chopping it up and shit then how the situation went like when he told me shit i was like i'm in the situation where i could turn it down but like i just told him shit go up a little bit he i thought he would but shit i asked him to sign one of my niggas because i'm like i was like i'm having motion right now but we can keep a relationship you sign one of the guys or something shit but then he ain't like he back one day then i was like just scrolling on the ground i seen somebody tag him not clicked him I'm like, damn, Instagram. Hey, no, while they took his shit. I said, man, this fucked up.
Starting point is 00:39:02 That man, hey, that's a little. How they take his shit? So I hit the chair. I'm like, man, don't for two Gucci money paid, man. So he's offering you 50K in a chain? Is that accurate? He didn't tell me that until I asked my lawyer shit. Because I, like, the pay, the agreement was too long for me to read.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Like, if you excited to sign shit, you're going to skip all past that agreement. He's straight, straight signature. That's smart, though. But me, I look. You don't sign anything without really. I looked at this shit, we read, sent it to some, some, like, hired people there, they read over. Then I called his lawyer shit. I was like, what's the, what's the thing?
Starting point is 00:39:36 What's the, uh, what's the thing? What's the, uh, advanced? And shit, he was like, 50K. Shit, I kept it to myself. I was chilling with it. I was like, I'm scraped. I ain't really, I'm, like, niggas coming hard. So shit, I ain't, I ain't know we were gone.
Starting point is 00:39:50 I told one of the guys, he blocked me shit. They posing and he just went viral. Like, I posted on Facebook. I said, no, way, wop. block me. You know, that bit went stupid. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:01 It always goes viral. Any of Gucci's interactions with his artists or whatever. I went, man, I'm like, damn. Because, like, how I told you,
Starting point is 00:40:07 I looked in the chair, I'm like, man, I'm like, man, shit. You were concerned. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:40:13 but then you found out, oh. They were like, shit, it's putting up on mine. I'm like, what you mean? You think it's because
Starting point is 00:40:19 you, you kind of pass it up to like, yo, fuck with the homies? I ain't just say, no. I told him
Starting point is 00:40:26 in the, I mean, I'm having motion One of my guys, he's hard They boy, soul just fuck with him And that way we can keep a relationship through this shit Right He wasn't feeling that, though Yeah, I guess I could see
Starting point is 00:40:38 How that would be a little offensive though If he's trying to sign you and you're like, No, you should sign my homie though Nah Shit, this is just this sort of hospitality She's cool, you being cool But if I know I'm in the situation Where I can be bigger shit
Starting point is 00:40:53 And one of my guys trying to come up in the rap shit shit, why he did? But see, this is the problem of your Gucci man these days is that you want motherfuckers to just be like, yes, I'm down, let's sign. But even an artist like you who's at the very beginning of your career, you're still like, listen, I know that I should look into this. I should be concerned about the deal and everything, you know. So I don't know, that might be kind of weird for him
Starting point is 00:41:17 because a lot of people will sign to him, no questions asked. Like my mama on this shit too. Tough. This is my guy. My mom, yeah, for my mama told me, she's going to be like, what do he talk about? Right. What he really talk about type of shit. And that was after gun class had already dropped the year.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Yeah, after gun class. Gun class was already going up. He was about there like 700K when he called. Right. Have you had other people reach out to you that were interested in signing you? Are you having all those conversations now? It was just a lot of majors. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:47 They've been calling this shit. You'd rather sign to a major than a rapper? Yeah, yeah. Because I just feel like if you, like, it's people that's going to be successful as fuck. signed to a rapper. But if you sign to a rapper, this, right now, at the same time as you shit,
Starting point is 00:42:02 who they're gonna pay attention to. The nigga, they already been bumping with his artist. Right. But I mean, something like signing with Gotti, I mean, it kind of feels like he's got a crazy, powerful ability to, like, help make his,
Starting point is 00:42:14 his artist blow up. Like, obviously, I think the Glorilla thing might have happened regardless, but it feels like when he enters the situation, it helps blow artists up a lot. But he, like, you can't consider him just a rapper, though. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:26 They need like an entrepreneur type of shit. This is a different type of ball game when you would got it type of shit. Right. But if you sign to like a rapper, rapper his main priority is to drop albums and shit, it's just like, why not hit the major shit and just become your own? Right. So where do you see your career going from here? Like what do you think of the moves that you need to make in order to take it to the next level now?
Starting point is 00:42:47 Yeah, just really just network with the bigger people. But I don't really like, I just got out the shell to like really want to come around a lot of folks type of shit. Right. Like, I'd be around a lot of my guys, but, like, they'd be like, you're trying to hit the part? I'm straight. Cool with this shit. So you're sitting on hell of music right now?
Starting point is 00:43:04 Yeah, my light. I feel like, I ain't cocky this shit. I just feel like the tape ain't going to have no skills. Because there's some shit on there that's better than gun clack. Like, that they're old snippet that drop their bills and land. I think that's smart, though, because I think, like, that's one of the things with Pushisi. He released, like, pretty slowly in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:43:21 He had such a signature flow. And especially when you have, like, that signature flow, I feel like, you don't. don't want to flood the market too much and make people bored or hearing the way you rap. Yeah, this is why I come different every time. It's okay to do, like, the drill, shit, but I feel like it's more the drill. You just made, I'm on the, I'm on the hit run right now. You're batting a thousand. You don't want to fucking.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Yeah, yeah. They heard the drill shit. I got the 40-some reason, and I got a gun class. They heard how we coming in the trenches. So now it's time hit, hit, shit they want to listen to every day. We were just interviewing Skilla Baby And he was making it pretty clear That he don't feel like ever leaving Detroit
Starting point is 00:43:59 Or he couldn't really see himself moving to L.A. Like what's your attitude on that? You imagine yourself staying out there? L.A. Or West Memphis? Shout out, man. Skiller, we just knocked some shit out. Oh, you did really? Well, small world.
Starting point is 00:44:11 I was just thinking, why am I mentioning him? You probably don't even know who that is. But there you go. We just did some shit in the studio. Oh, that's fire. That's awesome. That shit would lead. But could you see yourself moving out of West Memphis?
Starting point is 00:44:22 Do you imagine yourself living in L.A. at some point or something? I ain't moved to LA though, y'all. You see high. It's too crazy out here? Shit. I'm going to move away, though. There's always been a plan.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Everybody, either you're going to play shit. A lot of the nigs had football who dreams. Right. Shit, not too many going to make it in a rap, so, shit, everybody going to get the highest pens all they can to get out the season. Right. Where would you imagine yourself moving, though?
Starting point is 00:44:49 Shit, probably around, like, the outskirts, like a little Georgia area or something. ATL even or not Because I don't like to be around too many shit Like this too You pop out you're gonna be seen You're not used to being around a lot of people like that Like the city's small as hell
Starting point is 00:45:05 I ain't used just there all that deep shit Like we clustered up and shit But yeah you know everybody Like Atlanta is the rapper metaverse And everybody has a chain on That says their name So you know who they are It's like a little
Starting point is 00:45:17 It really feels like you're playing a video game But I ain't like really Like y'all know they all who I am shit Definitely. Who would you, who would be your dream collab? Artists you really think you'd make crazy music with? Man, Skiller got a good-assad connection. I'm some shit.
Starting point is 00:45:35 But I just, like, dream shit. Yeah. I don't even know. I didn't ever really just thought of no dream collab. I thought like big collabs that helped help the career out and shit. Yeah, big. Shit, like, needs it like dirt. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:45:51 You get Drake. I never fumbled the Drake verse. I could think of some rappers just fumbled to Drake verse. Some people don't fumbled it. I say that's the number one. Jesus. For sure. I feel like, shit, I'm going to do what I do regardless on their motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Him and young boy shit. They're like, young boy. They're going to tough, though. Well, it might be hard to get a dark feature after that. You're going to have to talk about choosing. You're going to have to make that choice. Yeah, you know, there's a choice of shit. As soon as you said Drake, too, I was thinking,
Starting point is 00:46:23 Oh, okay. No young boy here. Not on the next Kanye album. He really like just the young boy feature. He ain't really like shit. He's just the young boy feature shit. He just big as hell. Everybody like in the seat of fuck with this shit.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Right. But I ain't ever just like bumped him, bump them. Because I was like, I don't know why to fuck everybody gravitated toward the Chicago shit. Like hard. So there's other, but since you try to put your man's on, I assume there's a lot of talent in your clique. It's not just, yeah. Yeah. They all can rap.
Starting point is 00:46:53 I feel like this side, the South, I just feel like this is just musical anyway. So shit, a lot of my guys, too. That's why I'm confident in them. Like, we're very blunt. You got to be thick skinned where we're going to tell you, this shit sucks. Right. Like, tough. Like, we're going to be like, nah, just dig to be in the gang.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I feel like back in the day in the South, a lot of the music that blew up was like, the strip club was a big part of, like, how music was blowing up. And, like, is it still like that or not? Yeah, it's back popping. Yeah. A lot of niggas trying their best to make clubs on them, because the females, this is a strong-ass crowd. That's why I react with them so much.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Their female crowd for it, which is dead. That's why. That's why I feel like Big Boogie is so big. Right. Niggas can hate on them all day, but them females are going to keep their, they're going to bring it. So you're going to go in that direction, too,
Starting point is 00:47:43 make some shit for the club? Yeah, I just feel like I can make some shit diverse enough that you can play it in the club. Gun class got some club love? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, gun class got some. The best street records always just become club records somehow.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I ain't going to say I'm going to focus on trying my heart is to put some shit down for a club, but I'm going to make some shit. No, because even, look, like, Chief Keefe, like, don't like, that shit went crazy in the club. Yeah, like that wasn't the intention behind it, though. Like that, shit, shit, like, little Boosie said it off. Like, you can hear that in the party, like, for 20-year-old, they'd be going to go crazy. I've seen somebody said on Twitter the other day, I never heard Boosie on the club. That's cap. That's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:48:23 You went to some shitty-ass clubs. What, wipe me down and independent? That's what I'm saying. If you ain't heard that in the club, you're fucking, what club? It says, like, there's a party. There's a party, man. Yeah. Hey, how are you on mud, baby?
Starting point is 00:48:34 Where'd that come from? Shit, where I'm from, like, shit. We really from the, this shit, trenches. Okay. I thought it was. I'm from one street, man. The house I grew up in, man. That shit was up from the 1900s, and shit.
Starting point is 00:48:47 I was about 16. That's when I finally moved. I swear to God, I thought you was talking about Lean. Now, you can take it that way to them. Just however you want to make the persona shit. Right. But my main main to the shit, we're from the, yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:04 I said that in this sun and had to put water on the stove to take me a bell. How the fuck I come up from here? This shit, like real. Water on the stove. Yeah, yeah. What, to get it warm? Yeah, they cut the hot water off. You bored this shit, pulled into it each time.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Shit, get right. I just feel like it wouldn't work. By the time you got a decent amount of water in the tub. It would already be called. Oh, if it's big, yeah. Big-ass spaghetti pot and shit. Damn. So you really came up from nothing.
Starting point is 00:49:30 That's the point you're getting across here. Okay. Really did. I fuck with it, man. The music is great, and we're all big fans, so. Killing it. And those folks be on my head about there, chili and cinnamon road, shit.
Starting point is 00:49:40 What's that? Chili and cinnamon roll. What's that? Chili. Okay. And the side is cinnamon roll. But that's just what you eat? This is what they eat.
Starting point is 00:49:49 This is what, where it's in certain parts of other places. Do you say that in the song and I missed it? No, it's just shit. I ate it one day and they fuck me up, though. They got on my ass about it. They were like, what the fuck? Just because it's super, like, southern and, like, it's super regional. They're like, why the fuck you eating chili and cinnamon roll?
Starting point is 00:50:07 I'm like, bro, they, sir, this is at school. Like, you have a daddy, son, mama, daughter, like, chili cinnamon road day. That's the thing. That's just like when people first saw chicken and waffles and they're like, what the fuck is this? Yeah. Like, spaghetti, there's not a main dish. She's sad. and shit like it's different everything
Starting point is 00:50:23 everything is different that's why you gotta I feel like it's so hard for us to adapt to everywhere just because the food's different shit different everything ain't different it's too big I like type of shit I used to talk to a girl from out there in Arkansas she used to take baths in bleach
Starting point is 00:50:39 wow you swear to God why how she would clean herself she put bleach in the fucking bathtub I just like you use some helps massage or some shit prayer's up for her i hope she's okay yeah i mean she you know she's not all there sounds like she's going through some shit check on their woman all right my baby ru i appreciate you dog looking forward to seeing all the shit you got coming up
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