No Jumper - Murda B on Getting Beat Up in Miami, Nas EBK Murder Case, BlockWork Beef & More

Episode Date: March 23, 2023

Murda B shares a delightful convo with Adam about her come-up, mild beefs, focusing on music, upbringing, and more! ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And today I have probably the most anticipated interview of my entire life. The one, the only murder bee finally on the couch. Right. How you doing? You don't have some miscellaneous ass niggas on this couch. That's what I hear.

Mostly from you. You don't like every other rapper we ever interviewed, right? No. No. No. It's been a weird week, huh? Most hated. The most hated.

Yeah. Okay. Where should we start? Should we go into like the early days I'm going to be or should we jump right into the fucking the whatever the modern stuff? Whatever. Okay, all right, in that case.

What you really want to talk to me around? I mean, you went Super Barro the other day for getting in a fight in Miami. I'm like, I didn't even know that she ever left the Bronx. Here we are. Where in Miami? Tell me, like what happened? Femi, one thing led to another.

And it was just like, I don't know what you expect. I'm not Muhammad Ali, bro. I'm a pretty girl, bro. Like, so it's like... Did she sneak you? Because I felt like you were kind of like bent over. You weren't really like anticipating it? I mean, I just...

Where I fucked up at was thinking everybody's me because if it was her, I would have left her alone. I would have felt like, oh, yeah, I'm O-D in a little bit. But for me, like I said, like, I was having to talk with my manager. And for me, you can't. win every fight. In a random parking lot? Yeah.

I got away. You guys chose to meet up there? No. It just kind of happened. I don't know. I don't know. It just happened. Where was it?

In Miami. Yeah, but like where? Were you like in the parking lot of the McDonald's or something? No, no. It was right by the strip. Okay. Yeah. I'm pretty sure I'm not the first rapper for that to happen to.

Okay. So for the people out there, normally I'm an extremely well-researched interviewer. I didn't know that this was happening until like an hour ago. Yeah. So I didn't write down who the fight was between, but I know for a fact that I saw it already. So like what was the beef that led up to this happening? Just two different blocks and I'm fucking with each other. Okay.

Ropping what I'm living. And then you just happened to run into each other in Miami and it went down. Oh yeah, I guess you could say. Your lip looks pretty good because it was split open before, right? It wasn't split open. It was just busted a little bit. Right. It wasn't really too much.

How did your face heal up so quickly? I can still see the black eye a little bit. Oh. Like I said, for me, nigga, I'm not Muhammad Ali, but I'm not ass though. Niggas can't say I'm ass. Right. I mean, I haven't really seen like you put forth a full fights worth of sparring. Yeah, I don't really fight.

No. Not my thing. You left that in the past. No, it was just like, I never really was a fighter. Like, I'm too pretty for that. Okay. Let's go back. Are you actually from Massachusetts?

Oh, my God. That's what I just keep hearing it. I am from New Hampshire. I'm from right outside of Massachusetts. So this to me... Plymouth, right? Some funny shit like that? I'm from Nashville and New Hampshire.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like five minutes from the border. I know where that's at. Oh, really? Yeah. So you did grow up out there? My grandmother lives in New Hampshire. Really?

Yeah. So you'd be taking the trip? Yeah. Okay. You feel me? there's a point in time where both my parents were locked up. And where are you from? Framingham?

No. Amherst? No, Lawrence. I'm not from there, though. Lawrence. I'm not from there, though. For me, I just, like, have family out there. For me, I used to just be out there a lot.

So you're not, you didn't actually grow up there? You never went to school there? I don't know why. I went to school in New Hampshire. I can say that. But I never went to school in that. And you were living in New Hampshire at the time? Nah, it's just like, for me, anytime something happened, for me?

Oh, your parents would send you away? I mean, I guess you can say that, yeah If you fuck up, you're going to New Hampshire Yeah My parents would say it to me If you fuck up, you're going to the Bronx No, they would not No, but like, for me

It's just like, I don't know I moved around a lot I don't know why people make it seem like They didn't like go to fucking PA or something Like, let's be for real Like a lot of these little female drill rappers Like not from their original blocks That they claim to be from

Right, I mean a lot of drill rappers Like to like fetishize the idea That they've never gone anywhere Yeah, like, bro, come on this stupid For 10 years. Yeah. Like, bro, come on, bro. We know you traveled before, bro.

Relax. It's never that serious. Yeah. Okay. But so that was your childhood. So you were living in the Bronx and then kind of having to go back and forth? Yeah, I was back and forth a lot. A lot.

Like, I was traveling a lot. I've been to Puerto Rico. I've been to a lot of places. I used to live in Miami. I used to live in fucking Stanford, Florida. I used to live everywhere. What are your parents like? My parents?

Yeah. They hate the Bronx. They like quiet. I like rowdiness. Really? me I like the city. I don't like being in white places and shit.

Wow. That's not my thing. It's not for you. Nah. So they were living in the Bronx because they had to. Oh, yeah. I guess you could say that. And you fell in love with the street life?

The drill life. I mean, uh, that's all I was around though. Like, for me, my dad too, like even him being from Mass.

Mass is a mona. I can genuinely say that. The niggas is worn out. There's definitely some wilds. stuff going on out there. Yeah. First time I ever seen somebody get their head caved in with a hammer was in Massachusetts. Oh my God.

And then his wife tried to stop it and she also got her head fast in with the hammer. They be whaling out there. I'm little white people and shit. Boston, I guess. Yeah. I've never actually been to Boston. Boston is a city in Massachusetts. I've never been to Boston.

Yeah. It's actually like comparatively very, very small. Boston proper. There's like all these other areas. I would like to live in Boston. I heard it's like a mini New York. Yeah. It's just a lot quieter.

and more chill. It doesn't give you that vibe of like, in New York. It's like, oh, there's everything possible stuffed into the space. Yeah. You go to Dunkin' Donuts as like two parking spots. Yeah, the Massachusetts niggas love Dunkin' Donuts. Personally, I'm a Starbucks kind of girl. Yeah.

Now that I've been out here long enough, I don't know what the fuck I was thinking with the Starbucks or with the Dunkin' Donuts growing up. I mean, the raps that are fired, though. I'm not up to date on like they're not. coffee beverages. I just know that they... You drink coffee, that's disgusting. You just talking about you like Starbucks.

I like the refreshers. Okay. That's cool, but I drink real coffee. Dark black juice that we call coffee. Dark black coffee. Well, you know, put some sugar in there a little bit of creamer. Turns a little light-skinned. Check the food.

What do you order? I ordered Wendy's. Nice. What did you get from there? Chicken nuggets. Chicken nuggets. 50 chicken nuggets. Really?

Yeah. 50? Well, yeah. I have six. My mouth is officially like, no, eat something else. So. I like fast food. I can't lie.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you'll get over it. Or maybe you won't. I don't know. I know a lot of older people who still are pretty much fast food focused. Okay. So you leave or so at what point do you start like really being outside? Because I can't remember.

I should have took notes, but I might. I can genuinely say. Like, I was always a party girl. So, like, a lot of people would see me in car meets and stuff like that. For me, I've been, I've been partying since I was 13. Defyant partying. Like, just going out drinking my friends, shit like that. All right, I just recently started drinking.

But, like, like, just going out. Like, I don't know, going to car meets and stuff like that, listening to, like, little ghetto music and shit. Damn, you were a car girl. Yeah. Before you were a drill girl. Yeah. I mean, I used to come home at, like, 10 a. every day.

What kind of car meets are we talking, though? You're doing the takeovers where they be doing spinning out in the middle of the shit, hitting everybody. Spanish music, dembo music. It was fun. Really? Yeah, it was fun. I liked it.

Okay. If I wasn't famous, I would do it again. And then did you get attracted to like the music side of shit or the street side of shit first? What was the entry point to this whole senior and now? I was always around the street stuff. so that wasn't like new to me but the drill rap was just like

oh it's just tough I mean I like that I like drill rap man I can say it was taken over the Bronx at the time and all in New York it's bro it's the easiest way to get it easy as way to get it so you're admitting that's easy to make drill music yeah if you can't make drill bro that's just a little calm all you got to do is just like really like not really think about it

but like you just have to just make it make sense. You know what I mean? Right. I was trying to explain to my girl that it's kind of easy to make drill music that is, oh, you like her? Bro, I grew up watching you guys. Really? Yeah. That's kind of scary. Holding you right now? I'm 18. 18 right now? Oh no. I grew up watching you guys. Like, really, though. Like, that means that when we were doing like the sex tape at one million. Yeah, yeah, niggas was going crazy. I can't lie. Jesus. Yeah, Lena. It's like exactly what you don't want when you're making like edgy risque content is like oh I was watching that when I was 12

I thought I would be here though this is crazy I'm like yeah damn that is kind of crazy and so that's why you're so geeked when I called you dusty in the DMs yeah I was like what the fuck I love this guy I've been looking up to him my whole life and now he's calling me dusty that has

I was like what the fuck fucking be dusty I don't know it's just like a general insult that you could use with a girl when you're kind of messing with her you know you're all tough and shit it's like I can't be I mean, I feel like I'm sweet. I got a neggy. I'm a sweetheart, bro.

You know about negging? Neging? Neging. That's a bad word. No. It's like, N-E-G-G-G-I-N-E. No, I'm not saying like,

it's like, I'm just saying that's bad lingo. Is it? Yeah. Like, you don't ever hear somebody in the Bronx saying like, yeah, I'm negging you. It's all right. No, all right. It's like, people say it in the pickup community and stuff. It's like if you, if you want a girl like you,

you say mean things to her, basically. Oh, okay, okay. I'm not saying that I like apply that normally, but with you I felt like it was appropriate. Yeah, I was. I found it funny. I thought it was hilarious. Okay.

So you're getting into the Bronx world or like the drill world or whatever. Like when I mean, it feels like this is kind of all come together in very short period of time with you because you were dancing in Blockworks video like a year and a half ago, right? Now you D.O.A. Speaking of, all right, look, that whole time, like I knew the D.O.N. But you got to understand, like, females, like. They mixie. I can't lie. Like, I just wanted to, like, just have new experience, be cool everybody at some point, you feel

me? You didn't know everybody at that time, so you weren't really sure who you were hanging out with? No, I knew everybody. I knew everybody. That's one thing about me. I knew everybody, whether it was through Facebook or Instagram or something. So, feel me? Like, the whole block work situation, I knew his manager from when I was 13.

Because I used to date one of his friends with you. is a girl. And, for me, yeah, like, I like girls. So everybody knows this. Everybody knows this. Okay. I said in every interview. You're like guys and girls.

Yeah. Okay. So basically, for me, I was dating one of his friends and I got brought around him. And then, like, when I wanted to fully start drool-w rapping, he was like my only, really real connection, if that makes sense. And I know the politics behind him, but from what I heard, for me, I'm also really cool with Siha's father. So from what I heard was like, oh yeah, he's trying to make amends with niggas and this and out of third.

So I took him in. Fimmy? I'm a blockwork truther. He sat down on this couch and he seemed like a really nice guy and so I believe whatever he's saying. Oh, okay. I mean, I guess. So, Fimmy? I feel like it just really kind of seemed like the people who were hating on him maybe didn't have the best information.

No, I mean, I don't know, bro. I don't know that guy. I can't like swear. I can't like actually say that, but that's kind of how I felt. I feel like he just does too much sometimes for me. Like, I don't be trying to do too much. Like, I, I did bad with the video. I don't got it.

I did bad. Why? Because you weren't, you weren't, like, even in it that much. No, I wasn't. Bro, my friend was in there shaking eyes, bro. I wouldn't ever do that. You wouldn't shake ass? No, I don't shake ass in nobody's video.

I don't go to fuck who you are. Okay. I was in T. Krippi's video in my zip. I'm not shaking ass. I have my flag out like that. I was not shaking. I don't do that.

Right. I don't do that. That is not my. It's kind of funny for me. It was like an adult to just see somebody who's 18, like being like judged incredibly harshly for stuff that they did like a year before. That was saying like, bro, like let me live, bro. Like damn.

Right. You live and you learn, bro. But like I was saying though, Femmy, so I came to the video shoot on behalf of his manager. Femmy, I knew him. We was chopping it up. Femmy, I did a little cameo. So, uh-uh. This is none the third.

And then Femmy, he ended up dropping it after he said. started dissing again. So it just made me look bad, right? So then the whole Seb was just on some shit like bitch you dejee ah, uh, uh, uh. And then I like, I was like bro, y'all gotta understand that I was from Mad Long ago.

And then they like fake like kind of like, okay, whatever, you're a female at the end of the day. Like I said, females are mixed male. People get killed over females all the time. Bro, like I said, females are mixy, bro. Like I know a couple of bitches that are rapping right now that used to chill. with niggas that I know on the blog.

Right. For me? So like I was saying, like, I feel like it's just like, because there's so many eyes watching me right now. So it's just like they be on my dick a little bit too much. Right. So you don't actually have a dick, though, right? That's like a figure of speech.

Yeah, it's figured a speech. Okay. I just wanted to check. I just see how when girls start saying. What you're trying to say? I don't know. When girls start talking about having a dick, I get kind of like, uh? What you're trying to say, bro?

I'm just trying to figure out where your Wendy's is. No, no, no, no. That's not because there was a funny flick of me holding a funny gun. A funny gun. Yeah, bro. A funny gun. Like, it was a prop gun. Feel me?

The, what's it called? The treatment for the video was a gun, was a armed robbery. robbing a bank or whatever for me so like we had prop guns and shit and it just looked funny in my hand and like it was just an all guard flick and like everybody thinks i look like like like that and i was like sniffling mid picture too i was tight i was tight i think to look like michael jackson i get a lot that it's not it's not it's not especially when you have a lot of eyes on you too that shit that shit right there room i feel like i can't do shit so when did that start though like you having so many eyes on you at what point that's always been a thing though like as much as

niggas like say like oh yeah we don't know you we don't know you feel me that's cap that's that's that cap a lot of these obnigas been in my inbox still are to this day so it's like um all right for me you think it's cap they know you yeah they know me but not for like bad reasons that was just cool everybody at some point and then ended up just like picking aside because of like If I'm gonna, like personally, I won't be friends with you if you're cool with somebody who's talking on people who I fuck with dads or like my dads. You feel me? That's just, it's just morals, you know?

I end up in that position as well. That's what I'm saying. Like, if you, you're different though. You're entertainer. You're like, Kalo, he's different. He's a videographer, bro. That's the way he does business. But there's been rappers I was close enough to that then,

they die somebody makes a video dissing them and then they want to do an interview with me and it's like listen I would like to be able to tell every single story that's going on and hip-out of the streets or whatever but like at a certain point you're gonna have me looking crazy if I'm linking up with you linking up with you being all buddy buddy with you like nah at a certain point that's when I realized that's when I stopped being opi for me at a certain point that's when I realized like damn I'm fake like in these people face like and it's just like I'm cool with these nicks is and it's just like it just doesn't mix right you know right but do you feel like that is kind bad for society as a whole if everybody has to just be deciding that they hate half of the

fucking others i mean yeah in a way but like i don't know the bronx is such a toxic environment you feel like i feel like me i feel like everybody just be on some bullshit that's good to hear you confirm that because all of us are looking at the bronx like damn this shit seems so toxic yeah like my outsider looking in bro we look crazy bro killing each other and shit that I's but for me it it is what it is so have you been losing friends

to like gun violence and shit since you were really young or did that just started happening recently honestly that really just started happening to me like I lost my first friend and um

I don't talk about him at all like I don't have him anywhere I have mad flicks with him and I just don't post him at all and for me I lost him and on Halloween And, yeah, he, that was, like, my first ever friend that died.

Yeah. And did that change you? That just made me look at everything different. Like, niggas is really not playing, bro. That was crazy. He was the sweetest kid ever. Sweetest kid ever. And, like, you wouldn't have, like, thought that him out of old people.

Like, I woke up one day and my boyfriend. at the time called me. He was like, yo, like, this person just died. Like, and I was like, yo, that's crazy because we was just with this, nigga. Like, that's so crazy to me, bro. So it was just like, yeah. The worst is when they die and they still have an Instagram story. Yeah, bro. Isn't that creepy? That's crazy as fuck. That's always the worst. You can see exactly what they were doing. He didn't have an Instagram page though when he died. So, for me. It's still down to this day. You can't find, like, you could only find people. You can't only find pictures of him that other people post.

Right. So I don't really talk about him, though, because I don't want, like, I fucked up, like, putting Danny and my songs solely because people started dissing him after. Right. Now, that was dead my son, too. A lot of people think I, like, don't know him, but that was dead my son, like, for me. We used to go to parties together. Like, we used to be in the same whip, all that, like.

But it is what it is. So would you say when you hear someone, this one of your dead friends, does that fill you with, like, rage? Or is it just annoying? So it has a feeling? It's annoying. I mainly put him in the song before because when his candlelighting happened, they put like YGK in the bottom spray paint.

So that made that right there made everybody dis him in the first place. So that's why when I came out with my song, I said like, Yant's not smoking him. Like, I was like, for me, like my response to that. But, yeah, they think that I'm the one who started people saying that he's smoking on them or whatever, but that's not really the case. Okay. Is that kicking the candle shit, like super consistent out there? Oh, not super consistent. Okay.

I've only seen it happen a couple times. For us, those people just watching videos and shit when you see that. You see Shadji's do it? Yeah, and you're just like, what the fuck? Yeah, bro. I'm not going to lie. That's crazy, bro. Like, that's, no, I'm not going to lie.

That's that's not funny. I don't know why I last when I said that, but for me, like, I know, I know somebody on my side who did that before. Like, I'm not a lot. Personally, bro, kicking candles is a force. That's a force right there. I'm not going to lie. Right. I mean, bro, I've heard so many stories in Chicago and shit of people shooting people at, like, funerals and shit, shooting up the whole funeral.

I'm not going to, that's fake crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. I've been in funerals out here where they had crazy security with massive fucking machine guns and shit. I happen to shut down the streets and everything. I'm not going to. a lot. I feel like, I feel like the internet really made everything worse.

Yeah. The internet. Well, mainly kids, like, you're using the internet to instigate shit. Yeah. I guess you can say, I mean, I'm a really big instigator. Not to put it all on you or anything. But, like, okay, that vlog that we just put out. Yeah.

With you and a bunch of other people. Me, Tata, Jada geek. Yeah. It's just like, as soon as the camera hits you. Yeah. You're just dissing everybody. Yeah. Fuck this person.

Fuck you. Fuck you. As long as this camera's here, I'm going to just let the world know exactly who I don't like. Yeah. That's just how drool rap is. If you can't, I don't know how people can drill rap without, like, the drill rap is like, it gets gritty. Like, that's what you got to show, bro. It's not, it's not, I don't, you could drill rap without dissing and I, Ice Space doing her thing.

Right. And me? But, like. You ain't hating on her? Huh? You ain't hating on Ice Spice? Hell, no. I love Ice Spice.

Ice Spice for the bitches. How well, you know her? I don't know her at all. You never met her. No, no, no. We have mutual friends. Okay. fit me.

She's out here doing songs with Pink Panthera you know, that's fucked up. What do you mean that's fucked up? Give Murder B a chance. Oh yeah, I'm not gonna have to switch it up before I, like, you know?

How'd you end up being Murder B? Um, I got the name from chilling on T.J.'s block Uh, and they just, my name was Precious murder at some point. Uh-huh. And then they just kind of just stopped calling me precious.

It was weird. Really? Yeah. It just migrated to. to just murder. You ever feel like that's gonna hold you back in some way? Probably because nobody wants to

book a bitch name Murder B. Like, what the fuck? What you mean? I remember Uncle Muda had to change his name to Uncle M. Dad ass? I might have to change my name to M.B. But then I think he realized

he was never going corporate so he just changed it back. Damn. I don't want to have to change my name. But if I do, it'll be my name. Precious. Right. That's your government name is precious.

Precious. That's an amazing name. You think so? Your parents must have really loved you. They do. I'm not going to lie. What are they up to right now? What do they think of all your behavior?

My mom, she doesn't really know what's going on, but she'd be on the same type of timing as me. I get it from her. I'm like a lot. So, feel I mean? Yeah. She, she, she fuck with it, though. She actually just sent me a text message. She was like, oh, I'm so proud of you.

I love you. It's not in third. The food's still not. Oh. When did you sign or what's going on with that? I signed in December. December. Yeah.

And did you have a bunch of people harring at you or would it look like? What do you mean? Like different labels? Oh, yeah. I'm not going to lie. That right there. Labels was hounding me. I'm not going to lie.

Capital Atlantic. Atlantic was my first real meeting. They're thinking you could be the next ice spice. Nah. They're not looking at me as Ice Spice. They're looking at me as like Cardi B. Right. Like, that's the narrative that they put on me every time.

Okay. So, I mean, I respect it, though, because, for me, I don't, not to say, like, I act like her, but for me, it me, it's kind of just, like, so there's a lot of similarities. Yeah. I mean, you're way younger and stuff, but you got, like, the sort of, like, intense personality. Yeah. And then the music's pretty good. Yeah. That's the whole thing.

Like, can we put this together and make it work? Yeah. Like, if I wouldn't say to your face, I wouldn't say, like, I wouldn't put it in my music. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. Anything else you mean by? Um, okay. Fuck. I should have this written down.

There was a dude who was in the video the other day that just got picked up for the murder in Times Square. Nas? Yes. I just didn't want to say it wrong. Nas EBK. Yeah. That's got to feel crazy that you were hanging out of him like the other day. And then he just gets picked up for this fucking murder in the most, the most heavily secured place on fucking.

fucking earth. Yeah, free my heart, man. That's not the only rapper I heard of some, like, fucking, didn't Eli Frost shoot somebody in Times Square, too? Like, this is not a place to be doing that. Yeah, that's not. I, me, personally, for me, I don't know. I don't really have anything to say about it, to be honest. But that's, that's my friend, though, before anything. Right. So, for me, I just hope he keeps his head up and stuff. I mean, his, his Instagram is loudly proclaiming that he's innocent. I wasn't a friend. I wasn't around during that time. Right.

You probably shouldn't tell us even if you were. What you mean? Like if you were there for the shooting, alleged shooting? No, I wasn't there. Yeah, but I mean if you were, you should probably not tell us. Not yet. That's why I sound though for him. Yeah, right.

So, I mean, I don't, like, I feel kind of lame just like running through a list of every person that I know that you have issues with. Are there any that, like, really stand out to you that we would be. fucked up if we didn't discuss? Who is Satan to you? I don't know. I don't really have anybody that I really hate on, bro. I'd be too focused on myself. Oh, so this is all just like lyrical shit?

You don't know, you're not really mad at anybody? No. It'd be people, like, actually genuinely mad at me. And I think it's kind of funny. Right. But you probably have to move so different now, right? Yeah, I can't do the things that I used to. But I, like, I like, I like. You can't watch to the bodega? I mean, if I do, I go with somebody next to me.

Right. A nigger specifically. Because it's like, if a nigger come up to me, like, what the fuck am I going to do? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Being a woman. It's not easy.

It's not. But I'm also really tall. So it's like, I don't know. I don't know if they think because I'm fucking huge that fucking, like I said, like a Muhammad Ali or some shit. But, yo. How tall are you? I'm 5, 10, 5, 11. Damn.

Yeah. I'm really tall. They try to get you to play basketball. basketball? They tried to get me to play basketball. I'm six-three. It didn't work. They tried to let, yeah, but I, I'm not athletic. I don't, I can't run. You can't? Why not? It's just, I don't have it in me. It just doesn't work. Damn.

My word. So, I don't know, like, what are you, what's the plan? I admit this is kind of like, what's the plan? Eventually, I'm going to stop Joe rapping, not because I don't want to. I mean, like, Not because I want to, for me. Like, nobody humbled me into stop making drum music. Let's be clear about that. But I'm a singer. Do that as well.

Yeah. Is that stuff out there? I just haven't heard it? No, it's not out. You haven't released any singing stuff? No. I have a snippet at the end of one of my songs, and then it just never released. But, yeah, I'm a singer.

I play 17 instruments. 17? 17. What are, like, the top ones? Piano, clarinet, saxophone. So your parents just had you in class for that? They didn't, they didn't have me. They didn't actually know.

They didn't know. But they knew that I was singing and stuff, obviously, because I was singing since I was a little girl. But to learn that many instruments, you must have been really dedicated. You're just in the crib with bad different instruments, being like, I'm going to figure this shit out. Yeah, pretty much.

I wish that I had that kind of passion as a kid. Music was always my thing. I grew up listening to The Weekend and stuff like that. The weekend is my favorite artist. Really? Yeah. Interesting. Like the drive back from New York to.

to mass. My mom used to play the weekend all the time. Like, every... Okay, but you're a young kid listening to the weekend. Is this making you want to try Coke? Honestly, if I'm being... He makes it sound really good. Good, like, yeah, like I want to sniff coke off a white bitch ass one day. Yes, he makes it sound like it would be the best time on earth.

Trust me, I've done enough coke for both of us. It's not a good thing. You don't like this. Yo! Don't worry, they know. I'll talk about it a million times. You'll be openly like... Like, I've never done anything other than weed.

You're 18. You got plenty of time. Okay. Like, I know bitches that be 15 taking perkinsets and shit. Like, bitch, calm down. I believe you. But also, like, I didn't try Coke until I was probably like 26 or something. Like, which is kind of, if you're going to do it, it is kind of weird to start doing it like later in life.

But I know people who've done to Coke. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Half the Bronx. Half the Bronx. I don't think the, I feel like Bronx think is don't do Coke. That's just not a thing.

I have never heard of any of my friends doing fucking coke. I've heard like perks, maybe eat pills at most, but that's it. When I lived on the East Coast, when I lived in New York, I felt like nobody that I knew was doing, like nobody from New York was doing Coke. But then all the hipster-ass people that I knew who moved to New York, they were all doing it. Doing Coke, yeah. The white people, I went to like an underground party one day. And they was definitely doing Matt Coke day. No God.

One time. That was the first and the last time I went to an underground party. Yeah, stay away from that. I think it's pretty cool, though. The party? Yeah. I would go again. Stay away from the Coke party, yeah.

But I definitely want to try it one time in my life. Yeah, I guess I understand. Just to say I can try it. Like, I've tried it before. Just get a drug testing kit so that you know it's not a fint pack. Or get it from a doctor. A doctor? Actually, no, just don't do it.

Okay, I'm going to hear of it. Okay. Okay, so now that you're signing everything, what's the game playing with the label? Like, are they trying to... They just trying to transition me into being the star that I'm destined to be. I'm more than a drooper. Feel me? Like I said, I can sing, bro.

Like, I make hits for the radio. Like, niggas don't even know that. Yeah. So it's like... Yeah. Joevap is just the thing that I do for right now to, like, grow my fan base and keep being relevant. Right. Yeah, I mean, I was doing this the other day, and I said that Cardi B didn't used to be a drill rapper.

And a bunch of people pointed out like, no, she was. And you missed out. You are not remembering this enough. You're not in tune, bro. I mean, once they said it, they were like, oh, she was rapping with King Yellen, billionaire black and all of them in the Chicago days. And then I'm sure she did, like, you know, some other stuff in New York and everything. I'm glad she made it the way that she deserves it.

I feel like, in my opinion. So you got a lot of respect for her? Yeah. You pick her over Nikki? No. Dun-dun. No, I don't pick. I'm not picking size.

I'm not picking size of that. You refuse. I love both of them. They're both, me? It's pretty wild. I'm a barb, but I'm also like, McCarty B. Nikki just fully embracing Ice Spice the other day.

I seen that. I'm actually really happy for ice. I was happy for it, too. I'm really happy for it. But I was surprised because I think a few days before that, I had been telling my girl that it's kind of unique that Ice Spice is like out here, huge. has not aligned herself with either of them because that seems like it happens a lot.

I feel like, I don't know, like two powerful women from the Bronx, I feel like, not from the Bronx, from New York period. Like, that shouldn't have happened. But you remember Nikki remixed the, or no, Cardi remixed the Ice By's song and then was just like, ha, I'm not putting this out. She did? Yeah, she like put a version of it on TikTok. And it did not release it.

I don't keep up with, like, politics like that. Yeah, right. I don't. You know so many weird, random fucking politics out there that I don't know about. I'm talking about, like, actual famous people. It's, like, kind of a different thing. Yeah, I mean, but I kind of, like, pay attention to what, like, be going around about me specifically. Like, I hadn't seen a couple sex tapes that weren't mine.

Who? People in your... People that look like me. Oh, really? Murder be clones. Damn. And they'd be titling it, Murder Bee, on Pornhub and stuff? That's pretty smart.

I don't like shit like that. because I'm not a ho. Right. Like, I don't just be fucking fucking everybody and shit. But, I mean, fuck it. It is what it is. Like, it comes with being lit, I guess. Right.

Just having that level of attention on you, yeah, for sure. Word. So. I hate that for me. Yeah. All right. What's life like at this point for you? You out the way?

Do you get away from the Bronx yet? No. I go still. And I still chill in the block. Uh-huh. But that's because it hasn't really registered to me that I'm late yet. Right. And like I still like, I don't like famous niggas.

I can't talk to a nigger that's lit because it's like, I don't know, like I'm already dealing with my shit. So like for you to be lit too, I'm good. I like my quiet niggas with 400 followers and skeed up all the time. Don't post nothing. And skied up as a type now. Just rocking the shyshy mask is like a whole personality now. Yeah. I'm just like anonymous.

That's like I'm an MPC. Yeah. Non-playable character. Yeah. I like niggas like that. Like quiet niggas like I don't like niggas. I don't like niggas that be all up in the mix and shit. Interesting.

Yeah. So you really spend time hanging out with like popping ass rappers and you just you can't handle sharing the energy? Um, not really. Like I just like I feel like, all right. I've been around. a couple really, really lit rappers in my life. And it's just like, you're a regular nigga to me, bro. I don't care about none of that, bro.

I like, like, I like my niggas, how I like my niggas. Like, I can't. I can't really imagine being a woman and trying to date somebody who's got their head that far up their ass. What? What? What do you mean by that, though? You know, like, I mean, I love Future.

But when I imagine how Future moves through this world, I just imagine him being constantly. constantly bombarded with like compliments and fans and adoration. He's got so much money. I just don't imagine him really being able to like slow his life down for a woman very easily. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like that's why I can't date somebody who's lit because it's like, it's already like that for me.

Like you know how many niggas a day just try to hound me? Femmy? Even, even before I was lit, for me, like all the rappers is in my DMs. and then like I was just like I don't know I can't handle that I'm too jealous I don't like that You all know to trust

I have a really hard time picking friends even now but I feel like that's everybody though You live in her Yeah Yeah that's fair I was cool with a A droer rapper female

And Kenzo B No I don't know her You don't know her No one I forget um Rella oh you were cool with her I didn't know yeah it's cool her

and how did that go south um I have oh okay so I see a trailer and it was like oh how you jack top two were you not top five and I knew she was talking about me but I didn't address it

until she made a song with Kenzo and I was like if you're fucking with somebody who's like I just don't fuck with you and like I said before like it's just not my my thing to be cool with someone like if you're cool with somebody who's smoking my dad's

you're weird too because God knows what you're talking about when I'm not around you feel me no for sure I mean I don't know how the fuck anybody could stomach but then Maya Kenzo dissed her with that same line

because she thought it was about her and I knew it was about me, but I didn't respond to it. And then Kenzel made it evident that she was talking about me, like, on life. She was like, oh, she wasn't even talking about you, so you just dissed her for no reason. Right.

So then I was just like, oh, yeah, they're just talking about me. But so you really can't fuck with Rela at all anymore? It's over? Um. Or is it a short-term thing? I mean, I just got to understand the difference between business and personal relationships. That's a fact.

That was, that was business. I mean, she's Bubba's girlfriend at the end of the day. So you can't. Being Buba videos anymore? I don't know. He hasn't, I mean, he hasn't hit me up about it. But personally, I haven't been, feel me. I don't like doing YouTube videos.

I honestly just did it for, like, maybe, like, the attention, feel me? The fans like it. I can't lie. Like, fans like it. And it's just like, it's just a whole bunch of fake shit. I don't, like, pretending to pranks, all this funny little extra shit. No, I don't do that, bro. Yeah, I mean, I've warned Buba, or not worn.

but worried to him, this is crazy. Like, doing this much like gang-related YouTube content. Yeah, like, and you're taking gang niggas outside to do stupid shit. Like, come on, bro. Like, just from an L.A. perspective, I guess I just see the gang banging shit as so serious. You don't fuck around. You don't disrespect it. I could not imagine trying to make a joke out of telling, like, an L.A.

dude who's really into the shit about, like, oh, your enemy. Like, or let's listen to his music. He's wilding, yeah. I got mad love for him. Shout out to him for being able to get away with it, because I could never. Word. Yeah, I'm not going to, he'd be wilding, but it's just, it's concert at the end of the day. I'm glad that the niggas that he brings on his platform understand that.

Because if it was like some crash out, he would, bro, like, if it was somebody who wasn't in the right state of mind and, like, had no common sense, it would smack the shit out of him for playing the ops music in front of him. Right. You feel me? I think he probably asked him first. everything. I don't know. He's cool off camera though. I can say that. He doesn't, he doesn't act like how he usually does on camera. Rella, like the interview did pretty good, but then there was a clip that got many, many millions of views on Twitter that was just her saying that she is a percentage black and she does not plan on stop and say in the N-word anytime soon. See, but that's the thing.

Like, you can't say it like that. For me, I was on Cam Capone and he asked me the same question. He's like, oh, like, are you black? I was like, yeah. I didn't say, yeah, I kind of laughed because I wasn't expecting that question. So now everybody kind of like gave me the rel of treatment. You know what I mean? But for me, it is what it is. So you're not going to stop saying it?

I feel like the word is very derogatory considering the fact that it came from, you for me, slavery and stuff like that. But like, I don't mean it like that. Like, I use it as like a filler word. Yeah, a lot of people do. But probably the people who are mad about it know that and they still don't fuck with it. Not, yeah. I mean, fuck it.

I mean, but I don't use it as a, I don't use it as like a bad way for me. I use it as a filler word or whatever. Like, or like Monica, like, for me? Right. But clearly, I get dog. It's not easy being light skinned, huh? I'm Brazilian, Puerto Rican, bro. Brazilian and Puerto Rico?

But I'm Afro-Latina. Like, I'm Taino. Oh. Yeah. Okay. Fire. Um, okay. Anything else we need to talk about?

It's been a long day. Is it a long day? You try to cut it short? Well, I mean, we got 40 minutes under our bell. That's pretty good unless you got something burning in your heart that you want to talk about. Um, no. I feel like it was a good interview. Do you guys think?

Yeah, I feel like it was a good interview. Oh, that was nice. Compared to all my other ones, I feel like, in every, like, interview, I have a viral moment. and hopefully I don't have one in this like I feel like but this is highly anticipated too especially with like the fight that just recently happened so yeah but I almost like obviously normally from my perspective the viral moment would be very good for us but also I feel like nowadays like when there's a viral moment it becomes a TikTok and it doesn't you know bro everybody attacks me every day bro I'm probably like the most attacked dro rapper ever

huh that's how you feel yeah bro I be looking at my comments it'd be like murder B is fried pickles like what is you talking about bro really yeah what does fried pickles mean in that I have no idea they probably I feel like they just trying to like it's a trend I seen a couple people saying like we just do it because it's a trend yeah but um I don't know I don't like that took me a little while to realize that everybody who was commenting and academics his comments saying some shit about go eat a cheeseburger that like that's like his fans making fun of them but because they like him Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Like, honestly, like, I'm one of those show rappers that they hate so much, but they keep up with me. That is real. No, really, though. Murder to be. We love to hate her. Yeah. I like you, though. I think you're dope.

Thank you. I appreciate it. Especially, like, the mental image of you watching my vlogs when you were 12 is really going to fucking me up. No, really, though. No, no, no, no. Really, though. That's how it really was, though. I'm old.

Yeah. Yeah. No, but I'm skinnier now than I have. been like ever. Yeah, you, yeah. So, I'm fighting the old age. Once you start to get old, all you can do is get less fat. Lena still looks amazing.

She does. But she's 31. I'm almost 40. She still looks amazing. She's always like the amazing. Yeah, I'm saying. I wasn't expecting you guys to have a good, no cap. I don't know if I was either.

I was going to. That shit called me completely. Oh, God. I was like, oh, shit. Yeah. We started to live like a boring life of, like sitting on the couch at night and watching Netflix for a while. And then at a certain point we kind of realized like, oh, we should have a kid.

How has that, how has that like, not affected you, but how, like, do you like being a father? Oh my God, I love it. Yeah. Oh, it's the best. That's fine. There's like things I can't do in my life because I can't justify taking time away from hanging out of my kid, you know? Like, I love playing poker. I can't really do it because it's like every day that.

I could go play poker. I could also hang out with my kid. Yeah. And I don't really... How was your kid? Two and a half almost. Oh my God. It's been that long,

two years, four months, something like that. Yo. Wow. Just this feeling of she's so amazing right now. And if I take, you know, if I don't see her for a week, I'm going to miss out on all the cool ass shit that she's saying right now because she says crazy things. I want to meet her one day.

Oh, definitely. That's been my dream. Yeah. To meet her. It's so funny though, because if she met you, she would just grab me and, like, hide. She's, like, super scared to everybody until she's around him for, like, five minutes. I feel like, I don't know. I'm not, like, how I portray myself in my songs, too.

Like, I'm, like, you would think, like, if you watch my videos and shit, you would think, like. That you're never going to be a mom or that you don't have a soft side. Or that I, yeah, exactly that. That you put it perfect. I'm actually a sweetheart. Yeah. You just kind of got that maternal part of you, like. shoved down deep in your stomach for the time being.

You're going to avoid that for as long as possible? Being a mom. Or yeah, yeah. I don't like kids. Really? I feel like my mom fucked up for me, though. My mom fake fucked that up for me though because when I was younger, she used to make me babysit my siblings.

So like it kind of just made me experience like motherhood at a young age and it was just like, I can't do this shit. I can't deal with kids crying. I don't know what the fuck. I can't, yo, bro, the last time, bro, I changed the diaper, I got shit right here and I was tweaked. I tweaked. I was tight. That was the last time I ever changed the diaper.

Yeah, I mean, I haven't had this much shit on my hands in like my entire life. Granted, like, now she's older. Figuratively or like literally? No, literally. But now she's old enough that she doesn't really shit her pants out much. And she does crazy things. Like, she'll like, like, we have her in the diaper, in the crib. and she is just fully like,

I have to pee pee. And my girl's like, you have the diaper on. You can just pee in there, right? And she's like, I have to pee. We got to bring her over to the toilet and give her the full, like, sit on the toilet. You can go pee and then put the diaper back on. It's like, wow.

You have preferences now. Like, potty training. That she doesn't want to sit around with a fucking wet diaper all that. As she should. Yeah. It's just insane. It's like, oh, so you get that?

As she should. Yeah. Because I'm not going to lie, bro. I'm not going to lie. I know a couple people whose kids just been sitting in a day for since like six. No cabin. They're like okay with that.

Really? Yeah. That's scary. My brother used to be scared of like he was in the bathroom. My girl started potty training her like the instant that she thought that she was ready. And so we're like really lucky that she's. Yeah, bro. Today I'm making breakfast.

But I feel like girls are easier to potty train though. Are you? Yeah, because I was potty trained. Yeah, mad young too. I never thought about that. I was always like very like. intelligent, I can say. Right.

I'm making breakfast today. And then all of a sudden she's just like, Poopo! And I look over. And while I wasn't looking, she took a full shit in her little potty, pulled her pants down, did the whole shit.

As she should. I'm like, you're just doing that? And like, you're not even telling me beforehand. You're just taking care of it all yourself. All I got to do is wipe you. That's amazing.

That's amazing. It's made your life 10 times easier at two years old. Yeah. I mean, it's just kind of trippy that they get old so fast, you know? I know soon your daughter is going to be. And you can't say shit around them because they start to figure it out. You think that you're like...

My mom used to speak in Spanish so that I wouldn't understand what was going on. No, cap. That eyes. But not, yeah. I used to be just doing little shit. Like, I learned how to probably train my young. Oh, God. Congrats.

Thank you. I definitely know how to wipe my eyes. That's hard. I'm sure that the label was very happy to find that out. Hell yeah. I mean, everybody thinks I'm good for nothing. But I can wipe my ass.

Yeah, I can wipe my eyes. Amazing. A lot of you bitches can't do that. I got to go to the bathroom. Murder B. Thank you so much for coming in. It was a pleasure having me.

I couldn't give you the messiest interview ever because I didn't have time to go through all the messiness, but I felt like we had a good sit down. No, yeah, we definitely did. I plans to come back soon. Let's do it. Like, how about we do like a follow up in, like, the next six months?

I love it. Yeah. Like, and I want to like go back and like pick out the little shit like in detail for me. And just like, yeah, you know what I mean?

Like, I feel like in six months I'm gonna be a lot bigger than I am now. I hope so. I think so. I think so. I don't know. Vote for murderby. Vote for murderby.

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