No Jumper - Nick Fuentes, Sneako, Adam22, AD & Flakko Race Debate

Episode Date: October 19, 2022

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No Jumper. Coolest podcasts in the world. And today, me, AD, and Flocko are going to be having a conversation with probably the most controversial person that we're ever going to talk to, apparently. Nick Fuentes, how are you doing? I'm good. How are you doing? Pretty good. Sneco is supposed to be on this and he may be joining us at some point. But yeah, we're in here today to have a conversation, at least in part because Sneco has been urging me, to, I don't know, accept Nick Fuentes into hip-hop? What are our stated goals for this podcast, Nick? Well, I think we're going to have a good discussion. Well, I know that you had on Tariq Nishid recently, apparently to debunk me. You know, he talked about me and some of my views.

So maybe we could talk about some of those things and the recent news with Kanye, but whatever you want to do. Also, is this live or is this pre-recorded? This is not live. We're going to drop it tomorrow. Okay, I was under the impression it was going to be live. Are you live?

No. Oh, okay. Well, that's great. Okay. So, how would you say that? What's your overall opinion of hip-hop? Let's just throw that out there. Let's get some Nick Fuentes' opinions on hip-hop.

Well, I'm a fan. I'm a fan of hip-hop. I wouldn't say that I'm like a hip-hop head, but I listen to rap music. predominantly Kanye West. I know that's going to sound like I'm bandwagoning because of the recent developments, but I've been a huge Kanye fan

for probably five or six years. But I also listen to other things. I listen to like Nas and Tribe Called Quest and things like that. So I like hip-hop music. I like rap music. So black art is just fine with you. You don't mind hearing the lived experiences of black people.

I feel like most people would assume that that's not something you'd be interested in? No, I actually like a lot of black music, not just hip-hop, but I like soul music. I like funk music, R&B. I'd probably say most of the music I listen to actually is black. I listen to a lot of music. I listen to a lot of white stuff too, but, but yeah, no, I enjoy that. So you don't like to be called the white supremacist? No, no, I don't identify that way at all. Why not? Well, I'm a Christian, So, you know, there are arguments about genetics and things. Like I think there's definitely genetic reality to life about there are white people, there are black people, there are Hispanic and Asian people like races are real.

But as a Christian, I believe that we all have souls as well. And so we're all equal in that sense before God. I think that there are differences between people as individuals and as groups. But we all fundamentally have an equality in the sense that we're all. create it. So, Nick, you know what you're doing and you know that people watching this at home are going to

read between the lines. When you say race is real, they're going to take that as a dog whistle. I believe that's how they would use that phrase. To indicate that you're advocating for race realism, aka black people are not as smart as white people and Asian people. Well, that's not really

what race realism is. And I know that destiny and other, and I've seen you entertain this as well, people say that I while I put on a certain face and I put out a facade and I disguise my real views, but I'm very open about my real views. I've been canceled for my real views. I've been canceled because I don't hide my real views. And when I say race is real, it doesn't, that doesn't mean black people are dumber than white people. It means that there is a reality to race, which is both constructed and biological in the sense that we're race is real in the sense that, like,

some people say I'm not white because I'm Italian, Mexican, and Irish. But for the sake of example, you know, let's say I'm white. And that means certain things to me in a constructed way. You know, it means I have a certain nationality and you could say there's a history there and there's a cultural thing. But you could also say there's a genetic component too. Like white people have white skin. That's determined by genetics. And so race realism is simply the idea that race is a biological reality. Now, what you're talking about is these disparities. in IQ, which someone who believes in race would say that disparities in IQ, well, IQ is a heritable characteristics. You would say that that's the difference in IQ between the races is a function of

a genetic difference. It doesn't mean the blacks or dunder than whites. And by the way, you know, I brought up Destiny a moment ago because he's been popularizing this. He's been trying to say, oh, you know, Nick believes these things, but he's going to put on his good face. You know, destiny he believes in the same facts. He just doesn't believe in the genetic explanation, which is a legitimate explanation. He just doesn't tell you that. Right. So, I mean, would you say that you've been smeared by the mainstream media or whatever as being more racist than you are? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they just, they lie about my views because like I said, I'm very open about my views. I'm not ashamed of them. I'm looking for people to tell my views. And I could give it

in the most extreme way, but people say things like Nick wants to live in a whites only country, and Nick thinks whites are better than other people. It's like, I don't believe those kinds of things. So, yeah, it's my amps. What is your overall opinion about African American people? I think they're, what do you mean my overall opinion? Just off the back, what do you think about black people? I think they're good people. I love people. I love all kinds. kinds of people. I love black people. You know, my, my family goes back in Chicago like four generations. And so my, my family's grown up with black people, live with and among black people for over 100 years. You know, my grandmother, she grew up in the projects in Chicago.

My parents, they ran a security school on the south side of Chicago, South Loop, where they train a lot of black people out to shoot guns and become security guards and cops and things like that. I grew up in the suburb, so I didn't have as much interactions with black people as my parents and grandparents. But I think they're upstanding people. I like their art. I think they're talented. I'm friends with a lot of black people. But you would rather live in an ethno state and all the races just sort of stick together? I wouldn't say that necessarily because the thing is, is that all countries have some amount of diversity. What I would say is I'm against immigration. Because America's always been a white and black country since its founding. You know, when the United States was

founded or when Europeans began to settle, even though the, obviously, blacks were brought over as slaves, when they were emancipated and before that, it was a country that was white and black. And that is a dynamic that's changing in the last 60 years because of immigration. I don't know that I would say, like, oh, I'd prefer to, I mean, it is what it is. The country is what it is. I just want to stop immigration. In what sense? Like, you just think that we allow people into the country too easily, or do we not allow the right kinds of people? I've heard that argument, that it's easy for, like, low-skill workers to get into America and that they sometimes make it hard for, like, PhDs to stay in the country?

It's just too many. That's the problem, because the thing is, I guess I'll say it another way. I'm not necessarily against immigration, but we have now is, like, millions of people coming in every year, where you're getting tens of millions of millions. in a very short amount of time, and it's just changing how the country is fundamentally. Countries can have immigration. They can bring in, you could say a lot of people without changing like the demographic composition of the country, which is what we're doing. We used to have an immigration policy for a long time where it restricted the immigration groups

based on national origins, and we would let them in and waves, so they would come in and they assimilate. What we had after the 65 Immigration Act and the 1990 Immigration Act is they just opened up the spigot of immigration and the people come and they just don't stop and they come in in bigger numbers every year and in every lens it never stops and what's happening now is it's just totally changing the landscape of the country culturally in terms of the language our identity as a nation and that's that's honestly bad for everybody that considers themselves an american i think so i mean we can have low-skilled people to address you know the labor needs or high-skill people depending on you know, what you need, but bring in, you know, 100,000 people.

Don't bring in like three million people in a year, you know? Right. What I will say is that when I see like a fucking refugee crisis, I'm just like, why is there any kind of pressure on us to allow any more people than we fucking feel like allowing into our country? Like, it's just not, it shouldn't be our problem at a certain point. And it's just crazy that we're expected to make this our problem that people are just showing up and trying to come in.

Yeah. And that's the question is what is their, government's responsibility to their own people. Every time there's a government that gets toppled or, you know, there's a horrible economic disaster or something. Like in Haiti, Haiti's a good example. There's something going on right now. And the Haiti government collapsed because their government stole all this money. You know, they have this deal with Venezuela where Venezuela loans them oil, and the Haitian government can defer payment for the oil, and they could sell the oil and then make money on it. And then they were supposed to use that for social programs. And the government just stole all the

money. So then the, when the Venezuelan economy collapsed, they stop exporting oil and the fuel price is shot up. And now the Haitian government owes the money on the oil. And so now the economy's in free fall. There's gangs controlling the streets. And now all these refugees are coming to the United States and Central America. Look at this refugee right here. Gang, gang. You talk about Haitians? Yeah. Yeah. NACA. Sneiko, welcome to the, to the gang, I guess. Panel. Yeah. Not a gang. I'm not in a gang with Nick. I'm in a gang with Nick. You are. I'm in God's gang with Nick and Ye. Jesus gang. I'm glad that you're back. Well, you guys, AD will agree with you on that. He's a big God guy.

Oh, definitely. Yeah, but you, I'm glad that Sniko's here because this was all his plan. I think that the whole theme here is basically Sneiko saying that Nick Fuentes should be normalized and treated like a part of acceptable society. And that's what we're trying to hash out today. He should be. And I think, and I think now that Ye's getting canceled and that he just signed with Parley is proving the fact that if you talk about a specific group that you will automatically be deep platform. And you saw, I don't know if you talk about what happened with Norie, but Norie went on every fucking radio show apologizing, oh, apologizing for someone else's comments because all Ye said was he's jealous of Jewish power.

That's as far as it went. And then even if someone's on your platform. That's a nice view of what he said. He actually said something like way more aggressive than that. Yeah, but it was all because of the George Floyd comments. That too. I think the Jews stuff almost got pushed to the background in favor of people really trying to cancel them for the George Floyd shit. Nah, hell not.

No, I think the Jewish stuff was definitely like the prominent issue there, right? I think they're both issues, but I just felt like I saw a lot more people honing in on the George Floyd shit. I've never seen anybody, you know, like, quote unquote, getting mass canceled for being quote unquote racist, right? In terms of somebody black right now, I believe that Kanye, especially like this morning with hot night. they brought him on to like address like his statements towards it towards like you know you know you know you know you know you know the uh you know like the quote unquote like jews right not han an not right but no hair right but look at this though again but the main issue was kai was quote unquote anti-somatic and he got canceled for that and then kaii went on drinks champ and pretty much doubled down on on you know his takes on jews and that's what i think the issue is bro and again like me personally i don't think that revolt or, you know, or like IG or like YouTube is out here, can't think Kanye because he says some racist shit. Well, we don't know if the drink champs interview was removed because of revolt making

the decision or YouTube deciding to remove it. Although if you, YouTube might have said we're going to remove it if you don't remove it or revolt might have just done it on their own accord. It was probably Norris publicist, his manager called him up and private an adult. But, Y was wilding. Yeah, was talking crazy about the Jewish power. So what you need to do to protect yourself in your bank account right now is delete the video and go on every single radio show and apologize or else they're going to come after everything and all your money. And so he did that.

He said, okay, it's actually not worth it. I don't care what Ye said. I'm sorry. I just want to keep my bank account and I don't want to go on a no-fly list because it's something that yay said. Well, it is weird if you're Norrie and Kanye just start saying like, well, George Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose. And I mean, you're not the fucking coroner. Like, what do you know? Like, how is Norrie's supposed to respond to that?

Stick to the science of it, though. Yeah. They said that he lost his life because of a lack of oxygen. But does Norrie have these facts memorized? Like, that's why it's awkward. And that's why people say that we shouldn't platform people like Nick Fuentes. He's so smart. Because they're just going to say some random shit and we're just going to go along with it.

But the more specific accusation about Nick is that he is basically bundling up his white supremacist ideas in this nice sports coat and everything and that he acts real cool. Hey, I love black art. Yeah, Niles is cool. And that's what I like, that's what people are going to find. can destroy me for is if I am not perceived as being aggressive enough towards Nick. And I've seen some shit today. And I say, you know what? I usually don't do my homework and shit like that.

I've seen some shit today that made me disgusted as African American today. Well, lay it out there, AD. All right. So for one, you said you never seen black people jog before? I'm at our brain. You were disgusted by that? You're disgusted by that. Jogging is a white people activity.

No, no, no. But in the sense of Armad Aubrey, you know what I'm saying, the way he lost his life because jogging in a, in a neighborhood and in some, you know what they did to him, that's fucked up. You know what I'm saying? I'm a black person. I don't look like I jog, but I jog, you know what I mean? Like, come on, where do you jog? You jog in the streets? Yeah, I don't live in the streets anymore. I've moved out the street, so I jog in a nice neighborhood. Well, you still have a street. Yeah. Well, and if you look at the specifics of the case, though, and that's the little bit of old news. So I may be

a little fuzzy on the details, but he was jogging a long way from where he lived. He was jogging in boots. You know, you can jog, but usually jogging sneakers. You jog in gym shoes. You don't jogging boots. And there was a series of break-ins reported in the area too. And he was caught on camera on that construction site. And I remember at the time, Matt Walsh from Daily Wire was like, this is just something that guys do. We go in it. We climb the fence. We jump in. And we walk around construction sites to say, and it's like, okay, so he's in boots. He's miles from his house. He's jogging. He's on the construction side. There's burglaries in the area. Now, I'll admit, the way they pulled a gun on him, I would probably say that was probably over the line. And you know,

they got charged for that. I would say, is that, you know, is that a first degree murder? No. You know, what do you call that? I'm not like a lawyer. I don't know what you would call that. but the point is they tried to make it out like this was the new Ku Klux Klan. The most you could say about it is the guys were overzealous about it. Well, yeah, but a guy ended up losing his life at the end of it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I think that for once again, for the time jogging. Yeah, I mean, you can't you can't argue if all those facts are true of a guy fucking far from home jogging and in work boots that, yeah, that is pretty out of the ordinary.

I think that the main issue people had with it was just the amount of force that those guys demonstrated and how comfortable they seem to be with like basically taking the law into their own hands. Yeah. And like I said, like I said, should they have pulled a gun on them? Like I said, I think that was inappropriate. But, you know, they try to expand this because that preceded the George Floyd thing by a few months. They try to turn that into there's a systemic white supremacy problem among the police. And it's like that's where you draw the line. Is this sort of like a bad situation?

or does this represent this horrible undercurrent? I think if anything, it's quite the opposite. I think if anything blacks get treated better than white people. Hell no. I live, listen. Absolutely. I lived in some of these. I lived in Compton almost my own life.

And the way the police used to treat me and my friends was terrible, bro. And like, oh, not by the police. I'm talking about by the university. I'm talking about by the media, by the institutions. Sorry to interrupt, but. No, I disagree with that as well, too. I feel like now we're getting a lot of light shed on things. because of social media

and people having more voices than they usually have. But before, a lot of shoes to get swept under the rug. Like, where I come from, I've seen all type of, you know what I'm saying, injustice that people don't even get to talk about. I got a lot of homeboys behind bars

for shit that they didn't do. You know what I mean? Like, one of my earliest memories that I could tell you about, you know, I remember I was in a neighborhood one time and I got pulled over and the police they were asking me, oh, where are you from and everything?

They're checking my tattoos and stuff like that. I tell him, oh, nothing, nothing, whatever it is, what it is. The fucking, I don't know if it's a chief or whoever it was that pulled me over, he just leaves me for like 30 minutes. You know what I'm saying? In a bad neighborhood. And when he comes back, he smiles at me and my key is bent. I can't even drive my car.

You know what I'm saying? You want me to get hurt when I was just, you know what I'm saying, going to work doing what I'm doing. That's your example of, he left, why is the neighborhood bad? What do you mean? Who's in the neighborhood? We have a white neighborhood? No, it's not a white neighborhood. He bent the key.

He bent the key. Oh, I see. Oh, I see. He bent to bang your keys. So why do you think to where I couldn't start my car? You know what I'm saying? Hmm. Why do you think, though, that I guess blacks are, you know, like treated better in this country?

Or why is it so hard to believe that there are racist police officers? I don't, I'm not saying there aren't racist police officers. It's just the idea that the whole institution is white supremacists is way over the line. No, no, no. That's kept to keep people brainwash and yelling about stupid shit. during a quarantine so that they focus on non-problems instead of what's really going on. No, but it's right. Black Lives Matter didn't solve anything. And they told us to focus on this one instance of George Floyd. So maybe Ye was wrong talking about the Fendno, I'm not sure.

But I'm, the whole idea of it was that George Floyd was just used an example to make everybody outrage and it worked. And we didn't solve anything with it. 85 million dollars went nowhere and the neighborhoods that they were trying to protect our worst now. Well, that definitely seems like it's true. No, but I'm. And the thing is I don't, I'm not like a big cheerleader for the cops or anything. I'm not like a Blue Lives Matter guy been any, stretch. I'm not by any stretch a person that's going to say there's no, because there's cops that are assholes to black people and white people. And I think the cops as an institution are totally corrupt. When I say that, like George Floyd's a perfect example, here's a guy who is a criminal. Here's a guy

who is dealing drugs. He's got a long rap sheet. He's a burglar. And the guy clearly died from fentany. The autopsy report in that county said that he died of a heart attack. And he had all these drugs in this system. He not only had fentanyl, but also had methamphetamine in his system. But the coroner said that he died from the knee on his neck, right? On his neck. Autopsy said it was a heart attack. Autopsy said it was a heart attack. Is there a disagreement between the autopsy and the coroner? I believe there were two autopsies performed. I think there was one that was performed by the county and one that was performed by somebody else. But yeah, there was a dispute about that.

And they did find drugs in the system. So, and in any case. But what does drugs have to do with the situation of why he got arrested in the first place. Well, he died from a, well, he got arrested because he was trying to pass a counterfeit bills. He was in the process of committing a crime. And then he was tweaking out because he was high. And then he was in this unfortunate position where, you know, you're high and probably having some kind of heart attack or some kind of medical episode while you're in the process

of an arrest. Well, if you can't breathe and you're screaming out, mommy, you know what I'm saying? And you're saying that you can't breathe. And, you know, they keep putting force on him. I mean, he was saying he couldn't breathe before he was on the ground. He was saying he couldn't breathe before they were trying to get him into the cop car. And he was saying that. And I understand what you're saying.

But the problem is we start in the middle of the story where you got a guy who's like a criminal. You got a guy who's in the process of committing a crime. And he's high. And people ought to start the story where he's on the ground and say, oh, well, you know, they shouldn't have done this technique or whatever. And it sort of ignores the fact that, you know, why do you have so much exposure between the police, and black people, it's because black people are committing the majority of the violent crime. That's the real problem. If they had a crime rate similar to white people, there'd be a lot

fewer incidences overall of police involved or, you know, cop involved shootings of black people or negative situations like that. So that's always the issue. When I listen to, when I listen to Nick, I have a hard time trying to dissect it because I consider myself a truthful person. So when I listen to what he's saying, it's like, I'm not I think Nick leads with statistics and facts a lot of time. And that's the problem is that we're meant to think, like, people like him are bad and we're supposed to push back. And if you don't push back, you are going to get in trouble uploading this video. Part of the reason I got it, I got a couple strikes.

I don't give a fuck about the pushback and everything like that. No, no, but I just want to finish the point. Like, you're supposed to or else, like, that was part of the reason I was terminated on YouTube was I was listening to Nick and I was laughing and I wasn't disagreeing. But he could have, he could be on destiny channel or he could be on other people's channel who disagree with him and they keep you on. And I think that that should show, but when I listened to him and Adam, you called him a white supremacist earlier. Well, I'm not, I'm not name calling at all. I'm just trying to get him to be up front about his feelings. You said that. You said that Nick is a white supremacist. I'm curious to like what he said specifically that makes you think that. Well, I did hear leaked audio of you comparing a white woman having sex with a dog, having sex with a black man and saying that it was basically the same level of degeneracy.

And that was like leaked audio. So I felt like that was kind of telling about what you might say behind the scenes. Yeah, and maybe that was a joke. Well, no, I mean, I didn't sound like a joke about it. It didn't sound like a joke. Well, hang on. I can explain the context of that. And the thing is, I'm going to answer that. But first, I want to say the better question is, because I saw your stream yesterday,

full disclosure, Adam on Twitch, where you went over, you went to the SPLC, which is an advocacy group. And I will acknowledge that the SPLC has deemed a lot of people and different podcasts that I enjoy, like basically hate groups. So I don't put a lot of faith in their opinion off rip. So I did go there to get some information on stream. I'm not saying that I deem them a respectable organization. Well, and that's fair enough. But I'm saying the point is, and this is the question that should be asked about that, they're advocates.

That's an advocacy group. And they're paid to mine. I've been doing streaming for six years. I've produced thousands and thousands of hours of content. They're paid to mine, you know, the 10 or 15. worse things, 10 seconds. Let me ask you, you don't know the circumstances drawing that clip, but it was provided there for you in a 10 second bite for you to get a certain impression

of me. And that clip is from five or six years ago. I know you might say, well, it doesn't matter how old it is because of the content is so offensive. But it sort of begs a certain question, which is, you know, why does this exist? Who's paying for this to what end? Why is the SPLC? Because at the time, I'm an 18-year-old kid, the circumstances. about that as I was at a job training. And it was like 3 a.m. It's late at night. It was for a political

thing. And I was saying that I'm against race mixing. I think that people should marry their own kind. I want a white wife. That's a value that I have. My race matters to me. My identity matters to me. I want my kids to look like me. I want my grandkids to look like me. I think that's a positive value that I think other people should share as well. I don't judge people that are mixed race. I mean, some people say I'm mixed race. My dad's half Mexican. My mom's Italian. Some people would say that's mixed race. Obviously, I don't hate people that are mixed race or people that race mixed, but it's just not, it's just a value for me. And anyway, so I was explaining that. And this girl picks up her phone because I'm saying something that's contra because it's, you can't be against race mixing.

Even though everybody was and every race other than whites still is. Even black people say that all the time. I want to have black kids. I want to raise a black family. I don't know. No, no, no. I'm black and proud. If black people say that nobody blinks an eye, but what Nick says it, people are automatically assuming that it's something racist. No, no. You, and I think, I think in that context, I think that that could be a joke. And I think that if you record any white kids call of duty lobby when they're 18 years old, do you record anybody at 3 a.m. when they're not knowing. I've made jokes like that. I make jokes about every single race. It doesn't mean that you're a racist person, but nowadays you have to be very careful at any moment because you never know when someone's

going to record it. Well, wait, but she's so, so the point is I'm saying like, so that that's the part that wasn't recorded as I'm saying I'm against race mixing. Well, she sees me saying something that you're not supposed to say and says, I'm going to cancel this guy. So she gets her phone out and starts recording and says, hey, Nick, so do you think that having sex of the black guys, same as having sex with a dog? So I didn't say that. Those wolves were not my words. I was saying I'm against race mixing. She gets the phone out and phrases it that frames it that way. And I said, no. I said, no. And Adam, you saw the clip. I said, no, it's not the same. I said, but they both be degenerate.

I said they both be wrong. And then the same way that I would say, yeah, incest is wrong. Is incest the same as beastiality? No, is rape the same as bestiality? You know, these are all things which I would consider wrong. They're both degenerate. But, but the- Miko just hops on board and is basically like, oh, yeah, it's fucked up.

I heard him explain this whole thing before. But you think race-mixing is bad? I don't think race-mixing is bad, but I respect his opinion to think that he wants to further the white race and have white kids. See, I'm not going to judge what he wants to do. I would have thought in any other timeline that Nick saying like, oh, white people should just be with other white people. I would have thought that that would be a super controversial statement, but it's hard for me to really take it that controversially when we've had people like Tariq Nashid on here who clearly says the same thing about black people.

Kevin Samuels basically said the same thing about black people. People say that all the time. The problem wasn't that. White people don't say that. White people are not allowed to say that. He just said it. That's why he's canceled. He's on a no-fly list.

It's just hard for me to really take issue with him saying that when I feel like there's so many people of other races who basically say the same thing publicly and aren't really like held in any kind of negative light for it. I think that's why Nick was saying that it's easier to be a minority nowadays. I think when he talks about that, he's talking about freedom of speech. I think I'm a protected class being Asian black and white. I'm able to talk about a lot of things to make jokes that Nick is not capable of. But even then, you can still tote the line and get canceled as we've both been terminated. but yeah i i still haven't seen you i disagree i've heard so destiny bring up that statement since i'm curious so like what do you think nick has said that's made you think he's a white supremacist

besides that what about uh the the black people's hands should be cut off at the airport no well why didn't i don't mean them like what in what context was part of a joke it's part because i'm talking about how you know there was this development where I think it was American Airlines or one of the big airlines said that gay men or, well, it's not just gay men. It says that men can wear the girls flight attend to uniform and the girls can wear the male flight attendant uniform. And I said, you know, you look at these videos from World Star, whatever, on social media of black people fighting on planes. And, you know, and I don't know, I mean, you're going to pretend this doesn't exist like these videos of black people fighting everywhere at Disney World, the airport, and restaurants. What's that?

Everybody fights everywhere. Not like that. I've just seen a white nigga hit someone, BAM, in the back of the head on a plane. Yeah, come on Nick. It happens everywhere. Yeah, it's not to say that black people are the only people. It's not just black people.

Everybody fights everywhere. So you're into, I mean, it's not no denial. It's the truth. It is denial. It is denial. To say that that's not like a black. So you're saying only black people fight at Disneyland

and fight in airports and airlines. I'm saying that when I go on social. You are with the truth. Not what you see on social media. Where's the facts? I can show you videos right now where white people, black people, Mexican people, Asian people. Everybody's fighting everywhere. Yeah, I really, I know everybody fights, but I'm just saying what I see on social media. Why single out? It happens more with black people. It happens way more with black people.

See, I came up to the same conclusion before I even knew Nick when they were talking about the stop Asian hate crimes in New York City. And then I talked to every single Asian person. I went to these protests and it made me really upset. I watched all the videos. and the uncomfortable truth was Asians were afraid to talk about how most of the attacks, I would say 90% of them were black people because it's a protected class. You don't want to come off racist. And so they lumped it in and they used the crime statistics, which is hate crime. And hate crime is anything.

If you say the word, use a racial slur against an Asian person, that's a hate crime. But the stop Asian hate attacks was like when an old Asian lady gets pushed over into the train tracks or an old Asian lady gets punched in the head 40 times. And if you look at what race is doing that, it was black people. And the reason, whatever justification you want to make for it, overall in New York City, there's more bums, there's more homeless people, there's more poor people that are black than other races. And so that's why poor people commit crimes more often. Again, like, he's not wrong. Like, we're 14% of the population and we're responsible for 50% of the violent crime.

So he's not real. Like, we commit violent crimes more than any other race. But I guess where AD point is simply just fighting at Disney World or at an airport, how do you just attribute it debt to black people. Well, and this is where tone matters. When I say I want to chop people's hands off, what I said was I, you know, you think about airplanes and airport security and it's TSA and everything because of what, Al-Qaeda, 9-11. I said, well, and this is explaining the joke kind of defeats the point of it, but I said, well, I'd rather have the Taliban run the airlines and cut off the hands of all the black people fighting on the airplanes and put the flight attendants in Burkas

than have what we have now, the current TSA regime, where you're going to have black people fighting on the plane, and then a male flight attendant in high heels is going to go run and break it up. It wasn't an assertion of fact of like, well, we looked at the data and black people are finding on airplanes more than anybody, although I presume that's true. I haven't done the research, but I presume that's true. And so that's a joke. And the point is AD, and I'm a little bit disappointed. If you can't say, like, you know what I'm talking about, if you're going to get,

if you're going to take umbrage of the fact that I say black people are, fighting at the airport in Disneyland and saying, white people fight too. Like, you don't know what I'm talking about. That's just like either dishonest or delusional. I mean, I'm just telling it to straight up. To say that that makes me a racist because I have fucking eyeballs.

And I see what people say on Twitter. I'm just saying this wrong. But you said it was white supremacists. See, both of the instances that you guys brought up were kind of jokes. You didn't hear white supremacists come out of my mouth for any. No, that was the question. My question was,

can you name something that makes Nick a white supremacist? And both of you brought up jokes that out of context in the way you're saying it sounds bad. But that's what social media does now. You take things out of context to position somebody in a bad way. I believe that 100%. You're right. Right.

And I think that kind of proves what you just brought up. But what belief has Nick said that makes you think that he's a racist or white supremacist? With the question, though, so isn't like, again, I maybe, you know, like severely misinformed, isn't a white supremacist just, just like somebody who thinks that white folks are supreme, right? Yeah. Other races? Well, Nick, like, don't you think that white folks are supreme? No.

and I answered that earlier. And the thing is about, you know, so-called white supremacy is it's, it's, it has to be a materialist worldview. You can all, in my opinion, well, actually, it's not totally true. But as far as white people go, for the most part, you really have to not believe in the soul and believe in God to be a white supremacist. You can't, you can't be a Christian, you can't be, which is what most religious white people are, you can't be a Christian and say that white people are better than other.

people because Christianity is a universal religion. It says in the Bible, you know, that neither a Gentile or Jew. Now, people take that to mean like, oh, that means everybody's equal all the time or something, but it means that we're all Christian. We all have a brotherhood in Christ, and we are all equal before God in terms of our soul. For you to say that white people's a race are better than other people, it's like, well, in what sense? Then you'd have to measure it out and attribute supreme value to a particular thing and say, well, if white people are better, better at something than another group of people that makes them better as a holistic thing. And that, again, that you have to be non-religious to view it that way.

So white supremacy is incompatible of being a Christian. And I'm Catholic. I am Christian. Yeah. Now, a better question is, what do you think that white folks are better at, you know, than, I guess, any other race? Better than any other race? Well, I would say that every race has their strength. I would say the white people are very good at literature and architecture

and philosophy and basically everything. Well, I mean, he didn't talk about dance. He didn't talk about culture. He didn't talk about art. He didn't talk about creativity. He talked about pattern recognition. So you think that the soul of a black person is to be like a great artist or dancer or what?

Basketball player, football player. Well, no, now you're talking about soul. I think that, yeah, I mean, black people are great athletes and they're great artists. And that's not to say that black people can't be other things or do other things, but we're talking about the strengths. In general. And yeah, I see that this is, I think I just saw the hypocrisy here. See, if we asked AD and your name is Josh. No, that's Flaco. Well, if we ask, like, if we ask, like, what do you think black people are better at than white people? You would both say dancing, music, basketball, like, and probably make fun of white people for being awkward.

And nobody will get mad. Nobody would get mad at that. everybody would accept that as a universal truth. That in general, black people are better at music. And then Nick says an honest answer, better at innovation, better at architecture. And then it's like, oh, well, so black people can't do it, right? See, you get offended when Nick is truthful about the white race, but you can be truthful about other races and then nobody blinks an eye. Yeah, my question, though, right?

So, oh, sorry. No, you go ahead. No, no, no. So, like, when like Nick says that white folks are better at, like, innovation. Like, what did that mean? Well, here's a good example. Asians, if you look at IQ, we talked about IQ earlier, Asians actually outperform whites dramatically on IQ tests and on math tests. And if you look at some of these tests, standardized tests before university.

So if you were to say strictly by IQ and by certain tests, you would say actually that Asians are smarter. Now would you call me that? Because I say that, would you call me an Asian? Asian supremacist? Would you say that I think that Asians are better than everybody because they have a higher IQ in terms of this metric? When I say whites are more innovative, it's because although Asians have very high IQ and I clearly predisposed to being good at math, I know that's like a stereotype, but it's based on fact. They outperform every other group in math. They're not as innovative. And that has a lot to do with their culture. That has a lot to do with their history. And of course, history and culture are in fact bound up with genetics. Behavior is. is bound up with genetics.

You know, we say things like the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree. What does that mean? Children are like their parents. And there's a question about, is that nature? Is that nurture? It has a great deal to do in nature more so than many people care to admit. And the point is, so Asians, although you could say in one sense, they're smarter, he's better than other groups, they're maybe not as innovative.

That's why they steal American technology. That's why they struggle to do a lot of things the Americans do. And so the point is, and I take back to the previous point, all human beings, I believe, have inherent dignity, and they have a soul, and they have a brotherhood and universality and equality before God. But that does not change the fact that there are inequalities between peoples and groups on various different things. But would you say that because blacks are better athletes, that they're better, they're the best, the best race? Would you say that because Asians are the best of math that they're the best race? or because whites have the finest literature that they're the, you know, who's to say?

Those are all material things. Those are all based on, you know, material conditions. If you have a religious view, then we're not just material. We have souls. And so we shouldn't be afforded rights and respect and dignity based on the fact that we're all human beings. And I will say, though, that that conversation, it is very weird that that's not a conversation

that's really allowed to be had in public. And obviously somebody like Nick, who's been, you know, characterize the way that he has been publicly, him having that conversation, a lot of people are going to reject it or whatever. But like a lot of people have had their careers basically dismantled for just having the nerve to have the conversation about the correlation between race and IQ. Yeah, man. You got to just deal with Bitcoin now or what? Yeah. I basically just do Bitcoin. I mean, the thing is, I've had checking accounts. They just keep getting banned. You know, I had a checking. I got banned from Bank of America. I got banned from Chase.

I got banned from U.S. Bank. I got banned from, I think one other one. I was on a local bank. They just banned me a month ago. I started up a new bank account. I'm hoping that goes okay. But yeah, I mean, the censorship thing is really critical because it's like Kanye, you know, years ago, people for, well, maybe they forget, maybe not. He went on TMZ and said slavery was a choice. Now, would you say that that constitutes something like slavery denial if there's such a thing? We don't have a word for it. There's no museums, but would you say that constitutes something it can do? He said slavery is a choice. And he was fine. He was fine. He put out his Jesus' King album. He put out Donda. He performed in Atlanta. He performed in Chicago and Miami.

Then he said, White Lives Matter. And he started talking about Jews. Then he lost his bank account. Then he got kicked out of stadiums. Then he got locked out of Instagram. Then he got locked out of Twitter. It's like, yeah. That kind of says where the parameters are.

What's the line you can't cross? Everybody knows it's Jews. So it's not comparable to blacks and Asians. Jews have the ultimate. power. And that's not even anything hateful. I don't want people to label me as anti-Semitic. I'm already canceled. But that's just true. They have ultimate control and power. And they will abuse it if they need to protect their agenda. Yeah. I mean, there's no use arguing that one since we just saw it happen in front of our eyes with the Kanye Bank situation. It's like, I mean, I don't know

if he's going to end up regretting that one is why having said that shit or what. But I mean, he's a genuine person. I think it's good that he's starting this conversation because like me and Nick tried to have it, but we only have a limited level of power. The fact that one of the most famous artists of all time and a billionaire is like, good. Now people are going to start turning their heads to this. Because this is the thing. I look down upon it, but there are a lot of fucking people out there

who do not like Jewish people. And Kanye really is the first person I can pretty much think of in terms of like major celebrities to come out and really take that stance that you know that a lot of people would say behind closed doors. So the fact that he did it, because he really sees himself as like the vanguard that's going to say the things that nobody else will say. He says that black people aren't can never be anti-Semitic because we are Jews. That's what Kanye says.

Yeah. Yeah. Now, yeah. He got the battery in his back from Candace and he's out here saying shit that nobody ever said before. Yeah. I definitely think Kanye is wrong. Like when he tried to like do the whole type Negro shit of like, yo, black folks is

the original. Yeah. Yeah. What the fuck does that mean? Yeah, brother. Nick Kenney got canceled for that though because he brought like something dude on and who was saying that black folks are the, original Jews, you know, and all type of Hotep shit.

Yeah. Damn. But what does it even mean? Yeah, that comes from Farrakhan. That comes from Minister Farrakhan and the nation of Islam. Because Farrakhan has talked to Yeh and he's talked to Nick Cannon and these other guys. And yeah, I don't subscribe with the Black Hotep stuff. But, you know, and Ye is coming out of from position of credibility, too. I mean, a lot of people are so quick, they have this allergic reaction. Anybody talking about Jews? But it's like, if anybody knew, wouldn't it be a guy like Yeh? Because he's not only,

like one of the biggest guys in music period, but he's also one of the biggest guys in streetwear period. And he's like, he's talked about for years that he's interested in business and he wants to do architecture, he wants to do clothing, and he wants to do all these different kinds of things. And it's like, so if anybody would know he's been in the White House,

wouldn't it be him of all people? Because the point being is, whenever you talk about Jews, people say, well, there's something wrong with you. Like you're like a sick individual. or you have some trauma or you're insane or you're a grifter. And it's like you look at Yeh, who's clearly none of those things.

Like he's rich. He's clearly going through a mental fucking breakdown. I don't think about a mental breakdown for six years. He's going through a mental breakdown and then he's got a bunch of right wing grifters like Candace Owens who got the battery in his back. He's just going out there to people like Norrie who have never heard them and he's just reiterating right wing talking points that Candace is feeding him. And anybody who's watching her can see it transatlary. apparently. Candice Owens is not married to a Jew, right?

Candice is smart enough to not say that shit publicly, but I'm sure he has all kinds of sources for his ideas at this point. No, I think it's just him working in all types of industries and seeing, if you work in the music industry, you know every single drill rapper has a Jewish guy behind him and they profit off of murder. And every single industry, if you look at the end of the rabbit hole, it's always a Jew who controls it. Everybody who has a chance to is profiting off of murder in the entertainment industry.

All right, all right. But besides the point, Adam, That's the truth. Behind the scenes. The label, the label owners, the, you know, the people behind the same. The label owners, the real estate owners, like all the people with the most amount of money behind the scenes is a Jewish guy. And I think for Kanye to become a billionaire, he's seen a repeated pattern. And he's a type of guy who wants to give the power, that same power to his people.

And so he's talking about the fact that, look, why are we out here slaving away for Jews who are propping off of us killing each other? And he's been saying this for years. Even before this, you know, you say, well, he's in the midst of a mental breakdown. He's been talking about this stuff since 2013. When he was on the breakfast club in 2013, he said blacks don't have the same connections Jews do. And then the ADL came after him and said, that's anti-Semitic. That's an age-old anti-Semitic trope. And it's like, well, it's true.

I mean, it's obviously true that Jews have connections everywhere and finance, Hollywood, media, universities. They're overly represented in university, 1,200 percent, 1,200 percent more Jews in Ivy League universities than in the American population. So it's a factual statement. Is that because affirmative action helps them get more placement? Well, number one, no. And that's neither here nor there because it's a factual statement. You could say, well, why is it? But it's true.

And he got called anti-Semitic by a Jewish group. You know, you could say, well, they're more overrepresented for one reason or another reason, but they are overrepresented. They do have connections. And yay said, you know, blacks need connections like Jewish people have connections. Factual statement. And the ADL, which is Jewish, says, you're anti-Semitic, you need to apologize. You're a terrible person.

And Farrakhan backed him up. So he's been saying this for years. It's just that, and he said in the interview, he said, you know, he didn't want to split apart his family. Because obviously to say these things, he said he was living in a glass prison where he's up there. He's elevated. He's got the big house and everything. But he can't say what he needs to say, even though he's influential and rich and everything. He's still in a prison because there's.

certain lines he can't cross and he wanted to hold his family together. And then he said he finally had enough. That was in the Tucker interview. So that I would push back again. I think it's pretty, it's too easy to overwrite ever something that. By the saying that he's just, he's a bot for Candace Owens or he's repeating right wing talking points and that he's on a mental breakdown. He's insane. I just did a podcast, Adam, with academics two days before you. And he said the exact same thing. And I was talking about what Ye was trying to expose before the drink champs interview. And he said the same thing. He's always clearly off his meds bipolar. So he's been off his meds in a bipolar mental manic episode for fucking six years. He went to the hospital in 2016 after the Pablo show.

So if he's been on a six year long manic episode, that's the longest manic episode ever. And even in that period, he's made billions of dollars. Me and academics have been paying extremely close attention to Kanye's life for like in my case easily like 20 years. Like since he first, first came on the scene. And my honest perspective is that, yes, the stresses of just being unbelievably rich and having his family taken away from him and all these other things are weighing on him to the extent that he's having something that I would describe as a mental breakdown. I would say that that is fair to say. And I think it's very convenient that a lot of these right-wing-type people are just there to sort of like slide their narrative in with him. But I mean,

you're right. Like he's been very susceptible to the same. stuff for a long time. And I realize that when I talk about him like that, that I'm kind of infantilizing him, I believe is how you say it. And, you know, I think that's probably kind of fair, but I feel like he's in like a weakened mental state and that people are taking advantage of it. Yeah, I just would disagree with that because, you know, the people around him are not pushing anti-Jewish views. I mean, nobody is. Yeah, and certainly not Candice Soans. And to some extent, well, here, here would be my counter example. In 20, 2018, when he put on the Maga Hat and he went to the White House, two people came in.

Candice Owens, who was his friend. And Candice Owens, at the time, she works now for Ben Shapiro at Daily Wire. At that time, she worked for Turning Point USA. She worked for Charlie Kirk. And so Candice Owens, with Charlie Kirk, was meeting with Yeh. And they were trying to get him to do Brexit conferences and do Turning Point stuff. And if you remember, it was in the end of the summer, I think in the beginning of the fall, 2018, Kanye said, I'm done with politics. I'm being used and I don't like it anymore. So even you could say at the

height, if you're saying that he's in a mental health crisis, when he released the album, yay, I'm bipolar. It's awesome. Even then he recognized, oh, like Charlie Kirk and Turning Point are using me. He recognized that within months and said, yeah, I'm not really about this. I'm done with politics. He comes back later and this time, you know, nobody's putting this Jewett. You know, you could say that if he was doing Blegs it, yeah, that's a Charlie Kirk program. Candice Owens, I believe, like Sneiko said, is married to a Jew, at the minimum she works for Ben Shapiro, who's a Zio Jew, Turbo Zionist Jew. So it's certainly, it's not him or it's not her, and it's not Scott Adams who he follows or Ali Alexander or any of his other political contacts. That's, it's probably Farrakhan, somebody's been talking to since 2013 at least.

And I would say that it's awfully convenient for whenever a Jewish, whenever people talk about Jews, it's convenient to say, oh, well, they're just crazy. Oh, well, people are always rationalizing looking for an excuse instead of, and this is what I put on my telegram when it happened. What did he say that was factually wrong? Are Jews not all over the media industry? Like, is that not true? It is true. And is talking about their influence? Is that off limits for everybody in every circumstance? Like, are we not permitted to talk about how many Jews are in media and what their influence might look like and what the implications of that are? Why is that a bad thing? Why do you have to be crazy? to talk about that. It is interesting how we've been sort of trained to understand that certain

things are off limits. And we all reactively knew that Kanye had officially crossed a line that nobody had really crossed and that would be probably devastating for his career. Yeah, but he said a lot of stuff in the drink champs interview that's pretty much like on par with the Defcom three thing or maybe even crazier. But Nick, one thing I was surprised by is because I would have thought of you as being somebody who was like extremely pro-America but then I read a quote that said that you said that basically Ukraine deserves what they're getting right now from Russia because Ukraine is aligned with America and America is the great Satan. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, so I would distinguish between America, which is like you and me and Sneco and like the people and

like- What about me and Flaco? And yeah, and you guys too, so I just don't really know you guys as well. What do you mean by that? What do you mean by that? The two black guys? Well, no, I don't know if Flaco, AD, I just saw you recently. But yeah, you guys, too. You guys are America and people like Kanye and Candice Owens for that matter and John Miller and everybody. And I would distinguish that from the regime.

What I call the regime, what some people call the government, I call it's the regime. Because America isn't just run. The authority in America doesn't just come from the government. it comes from a true regime in the sense that the government is influenced by the media and the government influences the media. And the same is true of Silicon Valley and the same is true of the banks and the same is true of Wall Street. And really what you have are maybe five to 10,000 decision makers across many elite institutions that are making decisions inside the government, outside the government. And the government is in bed with private institutions too. They're in bed with the Federal Reserve and the banks and Black Rock and Wall Street.

and so on anyway. And so I, when I talk about America's Great Satan and Ukraine should be punished and all this, I'm talking about this regime. I think the regime of America's evil. They do regime change in Libya. They do regime change in Iraq. They do regime change in the Balkans. And they did regime change in Ukraine. In 2014, the United States overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine. And they installed the pro-Western leader who is going to invite the European Union and NATO into their country, which Putin had said for years was a red line for Russia. And they fought this, they really have been fighting for eight years, realistically. Ever since the May Donn revolution in 2014, there's been this proxy war going on between the separatists in Dunbas and the Ukrainian government

backed by NATO in Kiev. And so when I say the U.S. is a great state, and I mean our military, our state department, the government, our companies. are NGOs and multinational corporations, they're spreading sin, they're spreading decadence, they're spreading liberalism, they're spreading evil and death and destruction all around the world.

And so insofar as Russia is opposed to the hegemony of the American regime and I am opposed to the American regime, then that sort of makes us allies. Interesting. So you're hoping that Ukraine gets wiped off the face of the planet or are you looking forward to nuclear war? What are you hoping for in this whole thing? thing. Well, I've been urging de-escalation. I think that the United States needs an off-ramp here.

I mean, because things just keep escalating, but it's reciprocal on both sides, and it is going to turn into a nuclear war if there isn't restraint, because it just keeps escalating. And so I think the United States needs to accept that Russia is going to win this war. They can't, like, it literally is not allowable for Putin to lose this war. So we need to recognize that. we need to recognize the Ukraine's not going to win. They're not going to take back Crimea. They're not going to take back Luhanska-Danask. So I think they should just withdraw, give it up. Like Elon Musk said, let's hold a UN-monitored referendum in the breakaway districts. Let's say Crimea and Donbass are part of Russia. Let's say Ukraine will never join NATO.

I think that that's a fair resolution, which is what was sought for 20 years. Right. Yeah. I mean, it does seem pretty crazy. and everybody say that the risk of nuclear war is so much higher right now. But, I mean, there's still a long way to go before we actually see Putin, feel like he has to make that move, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's the good thing is after Putin annexed those territories, the United States didn't really retaliate.

So I thought that was sort of a good sign. But, you know, they blew up those pipelines. They blew up the bridge connecting Russian Crimea. So there's just like no, there's just no restraint here. There needs to be some restraint. Nick, there's one thing. I know these guys definitely want to hear you talk about. Why are you celibate?

Well, you know, the easy answer is I am Catholic, so I think it's a sin. To have premarital sex. Yes. So you are a virgin at this time? Yes. Wow. So, yeah, so I think that the only morally licit sex is within marriage, which is how it was for, you know, thousands of years. But also, I'm just sort of, you know,

You know, I'm like an eccentric. What you got to understand about me is I'm like an eccentric genius. Okay. So I mean, not only do I like, not only am I sell, but because it's like the right thing to do, but also I'm just not really interested in the ass. He can't connect with bots. He can't connect to the armies on that level. What's that?

No, he's anti-poretic. No, I'm anti-a-dict. You don't need porn though to a bitch of dick, though. So you're just, you're on permanent semen retention mode? Well, I want to get married eventually. So you're saving all your jiz for your future. wife? That's right. Yeah. Nick, how old are you? I have kids. I'm

24. Oh, he's a kid. That's what I couldn't believe when he said that he was 18 saying that thing about the white woman fucking the dog being like fucking the black guy. Like he's got white power in his fucking veins, bro. Like, he knew from a young age. That's kind of like, like, I think he's a lot of people.

I'm thinking he's fucking 37 years old. No. He was a college student causing havoc. That's how he became famous. He's like a Nazi. He's like a Nazi whiz kid. It's crazy. I'm not a Nazi. Come on, you know, in that ballpark. I'm a nice guy. And the thing is like,

and I put this on my telegram, I want what's right for the country. I want to tell the truth and the truth is uncomfortable. Like I believe me, I wish I could be a liberal because liberalism has a lot of nice promises. Sounds fun. Yeah, and that would be very easy for me to be a liberal. I was a libertarian when I was in high school. But I, you know, I just.

just realize the world is a certain way. And I wish it weren't that way. Like I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but like inequality is baked into the cake. It's that's sad. It's tragic in a lot of ways. But that's a human condition. And I think that the answer is compassion. The answer is compassion and understanding and respect and love for people. But we have to tell the truth because the world is going crazy right now. The world's going to shit. Things are obviously declining. And the only way that we're going to turn it around is if we have some common sense, and just call it what it is. And sometimes it makes people uncomfortable

and it sounds a certain way. And I know I'm belligerent. I can be belligerent, can be offensive sometimes. We need to follow God overall. Everything is better aligned if we follow God. Nick, I just left Adam 22 studio.

And that dude has a lot of Satan shit up in there, man. You got to go ahead. Yeah, he's a... I have one little, like, Satan head statue that somebody gave me. He has one Satan head statue on his desk. He's got a Satan little doll behind it. Somebody sent that to me randomly. I didn't go out of my way to get either of these things.

He's got a Satan tattoo on his desk. hand, he's got an upside down cross tattered on his face. I got trust God on my knuckles, man. I ain't right with that. You got an iPod tattoo. I do, too. Yo, I need tattoos. Yo, Nick, Ken.

You look like Rick Ross. I know, right? No, Nick, Ken, we talk about the white devil, aka white liberals. So pretty much like the same people 60 years ago and who was telling us that, yo, it's a their cafe and like they can kick you out, you know, because you're black and that's perfectly fine. those are the same motherfuckers telling us now

yo is their platform they can kick you off if they don't like your opinion man now what's your opinion on white liberals I believe that they're our number one enemy you're like repeating his talking points back at him and it just sounds like yeah you are it sounds less racist no one's gonna call you a Nazi for saying the same shit that Nick said

I've never heard Nick say that go ahead Nick sorry true yeah because I would say it's Jews I wouldn't say it's white liberals for sure for show but white liberals are definitely the devil. Here's why, though, because if you look at white liberals, at least the radical, and we're talking about white, I mean, white, ACLU and other left-wing groups, they used to defend free speech.

If you look at like ACLU, American Civil Liberties Union, they're a left group, but they defended the skinheads in Skokie, Illinois. When the neo-Nazis or the Ku Klux plan wanted to do a parade. Yeah, they switched their whole shit up and nobody fucking talks about it. Not that I support. that obviously, but it's like they were left and they defended free speech, but now they're not like that anymore. The urge for censorship is really coming from the Jewish left. And it's not

say that there aren't white. There obviously are white liberals that are hopped up on that too. And I'd agree with you. Yeah, I mean, they're they're imperialists, they're tyrants. You know, they're trying to impose their way of life. But I think a lot of it does stem from- We're supposed to just accept that the Jews are tyrants who want to change our way of life. I mean they are What do they want to change our way of life to? It liberal international No hold on

Hold on hold on hold on Say it against ego Sorry Huh Say that again please sorry I said they want to further a globalist agenda They want to continue their power And they want to keep most of the wealth

For themselves Globalism Benefits the Jews Shit hey man I mean I need a fact check Because I'm not prepared to debate that particular part of this argument.

But whatever. I hope I don't, I don't, what are they going to take now? No, for sure. I just like feel like I should be able to like offer some kind of rebuttal to that. But I don't really know. I'm not learned enough on the topic. Well, I mean, you could, I could argue the other side or whatever. The thing is, is like, there is no voice for this side.

That's, that's to me what's peculiar. Because the thing is, I wasn't very, I wasn't much different from. any of you guys when I, because I've been an interest in politics for like 12 years. I mean, I was like a real young kid. I was like he was 12. Yeah, literally when I was 12, that's when I read Milton Friedman, free to choose. And I became real libertarian and everything. And I grew up in a normal working class household.

Like I said, neither of my parents went to college. I'm like an American ethnic. I have no WASP DNA. You know, I'm Catholic. I went, I was in a white suburb and I believed was kind of fashionable at the time, which was, you know, sort of like this right libertarian libertarianism stuff. And I went to college and I was like, I was a Zionist. I was like defending Israel. What? And oh, yeah, big time.

You? Yeah, I was even going to work for Ben Shapiro at one point at Daly Wire. And what happened was, you know, well, the big thing to me, I was actually defending Obama, believe it or not, in 2016. and I told the story on a stream recently. I don't believe it. Really? And I hated Obama. I hated Obama.

But yeah. In December 2016, he didn't veto a security council resolution condemning Israel because, you know, Israel's doing these civilian settlements in the West Bank and the international community condemns it. Technically the United States, it's against our policy too since 1967. And so Obama didn't veto this resolution condemning them. And all the conservatives, and I was a Zionist conservative too, they were all like, oh, you're an anti-Semite because you didn't. And I said, well, wait a second.

I'm like, Israel's going against our own foreign policy. Obama just abstained from voting. Why is that our obligation to serve them? And they said, well, you're anti-Semitic for asking that. And I said, what? I'm like, doesn't even make any sense. I'm like, that's no different than we talk about certain things. they calls racist, sexist, Islamophobic. How is this any different? And they said, well, you just can't ask

that. And I said, why is there so much foreign aid to Israel? Why are there so many, I know Jewish people in media? And they said, well, you can't ask that. If you ask that, we're going to stop talking to you. And then they did. I was talking to this girl in college, Cassie Dillon, and she worked a daily wire. And I was asking her, why do we give them $3.8 billion per year? Why did they write the clean break memo in 1994, which was basically laid the plans for the Iraq war eight years before nine years before it happened and so on and she was a good friend of mine she got me my show I started my show because of her and she texted me at one point it said Nick we're not in the same movement anymore you're an anti-Semite I'm blocking on everything and then for months she would watch my show every night and call

my boss and say Nick just said this Nick just said that you need to fire him you need to take him off the She was sending things from my show to Media Matters. Media Matters is like one of the big left-wing, like handler, minder groups like SPLC or ADL. She was a conservative. She worked at Daily Wire. And she was collaborating with Media Matters to smear me when I was 18, when I was a kid. And I was like, okay, so obviously it's legit. I mean, that doesn't prove it's legit, but it's a pretty good heuristic that it's like, if you're asking a question and instead of getting a persuasive rebuttal, they just cancel you. That's, again, it doesn't prove it's true, but it's a pretty good heuristic that it probably has some legitimacy to it. So that's how people say I'm like this twisted freak or like, oh, you know, there's something wrong with you. You're a grifter. It's like I believed a lot of fashionable things. And then based on experience and based on reading, I realized I was wrong, you know. And then I go out and say it.

And then I get shunned. And then I come on here and Adam says, well, I've never heard this before. I don't know how to rebut that. It's like. Because he just heard the talking points that make him seem like a. bad person because they try to censor the truth. When you cite specific studies or whatever, it's like, okay, well, I'm not going to be able to rebut that because I'm not directly familiar with that.

I'm sure that some of the stuff that you just said about the history of Israel or whatever, I'm sure that there's going to be people who call into questions certain details about that. I'm not really educated on that. So I at least want to admit my shortcomings there. I've learned this from being canceled. It's not what you say, it's how you say it. It's Nick's general attitude. It's the fact that he's smart.

He threatens the government. He threatens everything that the liberal. agendas about and they just need to paint a picture of him that's bad. Like when I first had him on my stream, everybody was saying no, no, no, I thought he was cool. And later on my Discord, everyone was saying no, no, no, he's a bad person, white supremacist, but I'm like, I talk to him and he seems fine. Everybody will try to shut out the truth because you're not supposed to hear it anymore. And I think that if we move it to the right direction, I genuinely right here, I'm endorsing it. I think someone like Nick Fuentes can win the presidency in 20 years. If America does not fall apart before then,

I think he has the capability. I think he believes in America. I think he believes in the people. I think he cares about the right things and I think he sees the truth And he's also a good speaker People could follow him I think somebody who doesn't believe in race mixing Is gonna have a hard time You're elected to be the president

But at the same time I do have to admit the rabbit hole is real Because if it wasn't for you and destiny Being cordial enough to sit down with Nick Then I would not have thought of him as being You know Somebody who is safe to platform Which obviously you guys can tell

That that's like part of my concern here I've had a lot of people reaching out Saying that I'm fucking crazy for even having Nick on the show. But at the end of the day, I think we should be able to have conversations with people we disagree on, although I am currently wondering

if this podcast is going to get taken down for Holocaust denial. There's a really good chance. This is not going to make it. That part might have to get censored, which is a real shame, because then where does that content go? Maybe that goes on the No Jumper Rumble.

Yeah, I would put some of it on page. But yeah, it's going to get taken down. Everything that I had with Nick got removed or got me strikes or stuff like that. Really? Genuine point. If you want to keep up your channel, I would be careful. Does Destiny make you like be careful about what you'll talk about when you stream with them?

No, Destiny's fine because Destiny's a federal, like he's a Fed agent liberal. So he's able to say whatever he wants with Nick because he disagrees of them. So they want you to disagree with Nick. If you agree with him at any point. Right now, I see you guys listen to him. You're like, oh, Nick's making some good points. That's going to get you in trouble. If you call him a Nazi for the rest of the show, it can stay up. But I got to get going up. What you think? Good. Protected. I got it going. Thanks for having me on. Do you think that Destiny's postures? You think that Destiny's. is aggressive enough that that's why they don't feel like they have to take it down is because he's like arguing with him a lot? I think it concerns the what, like what we talk about? Because me and, well, I don't know what Sneco got banned for specifically. I didn't see what was flagged.

I don't watch all of his streams to know necessarily. But with Destiny, I would say that, you know, it's because we never really talked about COVID. I think that's probably a part of it. Because with YouTube, there's specific things that you're not allowed to talk about. Like, you can't talk about election fraud. You can't talk about COVID. And those are two things I don't know that we've ever talked about.

But yeah, I think it does have a lot to do with the fact that he pushes back. I think that insofar as you're answering it, and so far as you're like you said, aggressively, you know, combating it, then they don't consider that like advocacy. Which is kind of fucked up. The YouTube

gets to decide, oh, this is your opinion, you don't get to have a YouTube. Oh, you disagree with that opinion. Okay, then you're fine. Like, if censorship is reaching into that, it's one thing to say, you can't say it. I'd almost be, it'd almost be better if that's how it was. Right. You can't say this thing. But they're like adjudicating, hmm, well, this guy doesn't believe this.

So he gets to have an account. And, you know, that's kind of weird. That's a little bit true. I think that's invasive. It is such a weird feeling to be having a conversation with. somebody and normally the only stuff that I'm thinking of in terms of stuff we can't show on camera is like boobs and maybe like somebody doing drugs or something like there's not that many things we really have to avoid having on camera so it's weird to be having a conversation where I'm like no this idea that he's saying right here is potentially enough to get this video removed very like strange feeling I've never really had before yeah man yo listen Nick can we talk about our good friend to Rick Nisheed yeah how you feel of him Wait, so first of, did you guys have a debate at some point or a conversation on air? No, no, we've never talked.

Wait, so I think he said during my interview and he was spanking one of like your friends or somebody associated with you and then like they got to troll and yeah. So like what's your, you know, you know, like your opinion on our good friend to Rik Nishit. Honestly, I'm not the biggest fan. Why? I just think that, I mean, to me, he comes across as sort of disingenuous. Like, as an example, he said that I was begging to do a debate with him on your show. I've never talked to Tarek. My people have never talked to Tarek, like my team.

I mean, he's debated people I know. But so, I mean, he just straight up lied. He's like, oh, yeah, that white supremacist, he's been begging to debate me. It's like, that's not even true. You know, that's just a bald-faced lie. And he also said that I'm like a troll and like I conceal my real views and I'm just not a serious guy.

Like that's not true either. And I feel like he makes a lot of these broad assertions like that just sort of flippantly. So I think he's a little bit disingenuous. But he's funny. You do give me like super villain vibes right now. Why do I give you supervillain? I don't know, man.

There's something about you, Nick. You could see him having a Joker arc. It's the background. I like the Joker, yeah. It's the background. right it's kind of like the background man yo so here

we lost sniko you told you yeah he laughed oh he said he was leaving yeah he got distracted by TikTok now yo Nick so so like what's your take on I guess black folks receiving reparations

I'm against it why because I think that you know I'll grant the institute first of all say in case you guys don't like you know if this needs to be said I'm against

slavery, okay? I'm against the chattel slavery of black people. Obviously, it goes without saying, but just in case, because you guys are, you know, at least Adams saying I'm a Nazi or white supremacist. Well, AD probably feels reassured to know that. Yeah, okay, good. I just want to let you know explicitly. I think that there's a lot of historic injustices and wrongdoings, and you could say that slavery was bigger, like more particular, but it's just like, who's going to pay for? Are you going to track down the slave owners, descendants? and take the money from them and give it to the descendants of the slaves. And how do you calculate that?

You know, it's horrible. It's a horrible wrongdoing, which, you know, is obviously set blacks back. It's a big disadvantage that they were enslaved, of course. But where does that start and where does that end? I mean, do you go to Africa and do you hold the people that sold them into slavery accountable? I just feel like that's just impractical. Here, so like, is your argument it's impractical? I don't understand how it's going to work, or are you against it if they could figure it out?

I'm also against it in principle because the people that they would be robbing, the people they'd be stealing from to pay for that. At some point, it involves the government is going to take money from some people and give it to other people. And that's like the sins of the father type stuff. It's like, we're going to take your money because of what your answer is. ancestors did. And we're going to give it to somebody else because of what their ancestors suffered. So in principle, I'm opposed to it for that as well. Yeah, I'm not an FBI, so I'm not getting any, you know, coins. Like, do you want to respond back or no?

Wait, so you think AD would be a recipient and you wouldn't be? Yeah, right? I definitely would be a recipient. Yeah, I wouldn't since I'm not. I mean, our people was brought to this country, you know what I'm saying? Like, forcefully at the end of the day. So, I mean, I do. I do. feel like you said there's a lot of injustice in the world there's a lot of um situations that we can bring up but yeah like we we've been pushed back like you said we we're still like trying to recover we're still getting our you know we still ain't got our just due when it comes down to that and i do feel like my people should get our reparations and that's probably the thing that people really want to know about how nick really thinks is when you say oh black people are always

fighting on airplanes or whatever, do you think that black people are fighting on airplanes because of systematic racism that's set them back in terms of poverty and everything? Or do you think that that's the truth because there's something in the soul of a black person that just makes them violent, which I think a lot of people would find that to be the offensive explanation? And most people would assume you to have that opinion, right? Well, I wouldn't say it's your soul, but when we're talking about behavior, the question is you've got, well, you've got the these behaviors, criminality, and if you want to say a pugilism, fighting is a behavior. And so the question would be, if black people are behaving in a different way than white people

generally, you know, why is that? What would you attribute that to? And the explanation for all of it, all the disparities between blacks and white people, liberals say, is injustice. It's racism, it's bigotry because they assume that white people and black people in a vacuum are going to behave exactly the same, perform exactly the same, have the same capacity and faculties and so on. And so if they wind up in a different place, well, something had to happen in the middle, which was discrimination, racism, they were brought up the wrong way, educated the wrong way. And I would say that it's wrong to assume that behavior is not genetic. Behavior, as we know is genetic.

Sociopathy, antisocial behavior. There is a strong heritability for those kinds of things. things. And so there's a lot of different hypotheses about, you know, what gene is it necessarily or whatever, but we do know that antisocial behavior is genetic. Can it also be environmental? Certainly. We also know that people have a temperament. Some people, it's just not in their temperament to fight. Would you say that's because they were taught that? We all know because we, if you know, children, some children like to fight. Some children don't. Is it because they were taught that? Sometimes it's brothers and sisters. By the same parents in the same school have a different nature. And we could say nature has said another way.

They have a different genetic makeup. And so I would say that, yeah, I think that why do blacks commit 60%? It's 2021. It was actually 60%, not 50. Why do they commit 60% of the violent crime? I think because there is a genetic basis for their behavior. And Africans lived in Africa for thousands and thousands of years without a lot of mixing with people on other continents. The idea that we would all behave.

and think and be exactly the same as groups to me is somewhat ridiculous. So, yeah, I think that, you know, there's a cultural aspect, sure. But I also think there's a genetic aspect, too. It's not their soul. It's genetics. Nick, I can grow up where you grew up, and I'd probably be just like you. You know what I mean? I'll be a whole totally different person. And, you know, a lot of these, a lot of, a lot of black people, and you said that commit all

the crimes that do all this stuff like that, like there's liquor stores on every corner where we come from. You know what I mean? There's guns being, you know, conspiracy. They're being smuggled in. They ain't even really no conspiracy and stuff. It's easier for me to get a gun illegally than it is to be legally at the end of the day. And there's a lot of, you know, it's a lot.

The school systems are more fucked up. Like everything is fucked up when it comes down to that. And I think like now, you know, you said something earlier that, you know, black people, our issues get put to the top of the list now versus white people. correct? Yeah. He says yeah. Oh, okay, okay. No, but yeah, I feel like a lot of things is location. A lot of things is a lack of opportunity at the end of the day. I mean, even if you look at like something, something like a section 8, you know what I'm saying? It's like you can't have a man in the household, you know what I mean? Or with section 8. So, I mean, a lot of these, a lot of these

kids are growing up without fathers, without father figures in their system. I mean, in the neighborhoods and stuff like that. And there's a lot of situations, bro, that we can sit there and break down to why a lot of crime happens, why things are happening the same way. Yeah. And like I said, I think you can explain it. You know, there are cultural and environmental explanations for it. But notice that liberals say it's just that. They refuse to even entertain the idea that there's a genetic basis for any of this, that it's racial, you know, that it's sort of cooked in. I'm not saying, that it's all the way genetic. I'm saying that, you know, because you're right. I mean, those things are, everything you just said is true about Section 8, about, about, you know,

the incentive structure by these government programs, about food deserts and things. That's all true. You know, but at the same time, you also look at behavior and behavior is genetic. And IQ is another thing where destiny, and I use him as an example because he's a liberal and he's sort of on the other side. he he didn't say this on your show because Adam you asked him you said you know what do you make of the race and IQ thing do you think that there's a disparity in IQ and he he skipped over that and said well here's why there is he never said there is but he believes it all the same he believes there's a disparity in IQ IQ is heritable and IQ is also something that's a predictor it's the best predictor of future success if you look at people and you take a cross section of a lot of different

people and you look at where they wind up, the best predictor of their success is IQ, as opposed to other environmental, as opposed to environmental things, other factors. That's not a perfect one-to-one, but it's the best one. And IQ is a genetically heritable trait. And so he would say, well, your IQ is formed by your environment. Your behavior's formed by your environment. Everything's formed by your environment. What we're finding out with modern science is that so much is genetic.

And I don't like that. It's uncomfortable. It's sad. It's tragic. it's inequality, but it is real. And if you want to understand how to help people and how to make things better, you're not doing people any favors by saying, well, you know, they just are a victim of circumstance or something like this.

So, because I agree with you, those things are all adverse, obviously, but nobody will hear out the case that maybe we're not all starting from the same place to begin with, which I think there's a lot of evidence for that. So you're saying genetically black people are, more angrier, or, you know, we have a gene in us to commit more crimes with your logic, correct? Well, it's, it's that they're more antisocial and the higher incidence of sociopathy and, on average, lower IQ.

And you look, you look at the societies that Africans form elsewhere, I think it bears us out. You know, people look at Africa. Africa is a total disaster. It's a total dump. Sub-sarren Africa. How are you going to say that? we have most of the vast resources from Africa. It was also colonized by everybody in Europe and took and taking everything from that.

That's where I'm going with that. Okay. So, you know, people look at the state of Africa today, which is just unmitigated disaster, and they say, well, that's because of colonialism. Well, when colonialism didn't begin until the interior of Africa until the late 19th century. It wasn't until the late 19th century when there's this big scramble to colonize Africa. and when we arrived there, they didn't have written language. They didn't have two-story buildings.

They didn't have complex societies. Like there's no real good record of African history other than what the Muslims or the Christians wrote in northern Africa around the sort of West Coast. Because they didn't have writing. And I don't say that to be ignorant. I don't say that to be funny. I'm not saying that to be a jackass. I'm saying that to mean, you know, this is the state of development of that continent of that people. And so in a sense, it's almost cruel then that you bring these people over into Europe,

you bring Africans into Europe or in America, and then they're underperforming, and it turns into, oh, well, you know, it's the government, it's the programs, this or that. It's like, well, the level of development wasn't very high to begin with. And I say that with compassion. I don't say that to be condescending. I say that with compassion. It's unfortunate. But that's the way it was.

And, you know, you can't blame the government for the fact they didn't develop written language in thousands of years, you know. I wish I had a better counter argument to that. I'm sure there is one, but I'm not really... He's not wrong enough. I'm not really sure how to debate that. You love to just latch on or whatever he says that. No, listen.

I'm flaco. I'm actually African, listen. I'm actually African though. Whatever Flaco doesn't like black people. Right? Like, I'm actually African. And he's not wrong. Do you think there's something like inherently fucked up about African people?

No, no. Maybe fucked up isn't the words to use here, but... No, no, no, right. Again, if you like take people who were, let's say, and uncivilized and bring them here and put less than like an IQ test in front of them, you know, like they'll probably do poorly on it. Right. So, right, again, you know, just by default currently, you know, like we are somewhat behind the A bar, right? You know, again, like, acknowledging those truths, like don't mean it's like, you know, it's currently hatred, right? You know, and like he's telling the truth, right?

As somebody who's, like, who's African, I can tell you, you know, we're currently uncivilized. But even like the fact that he has such an interest in it is obviously part of his overall platform being that white people are essentially superior to black people, right? Do you feel white people are superior to black people? Still no. Still no. I don't believe that because I think that. Well, and I use this as an example. You know, like Kanye is my hero.

And he was my hero before he put on the MAGA hat, before he started talking about the media and everything. What's your favorite album? The God stuff got you at first. My favorite album's Life of Pablo. All right. Favorite song of Life of Pablo? 30 hours. Or Father Stretch my hands.

Let me get a verse right now. That is a good album. I give you all the verses. I can name 200 Kanye songs. I know all his albums. I know all the words to it. I have easy in my closet. I have a lot of things.

It's expensive. But I'm a fan. And I consider him one of the greatest geniuses alive right now. If he told me to go work for him, I would say, yes, yes, sir, Mr. West. You know, like, I would go. You know, how can you It seems possible. I would be at all surprised.

Yeah, at this point. He's 24 though, right? Like, I feel like, he's a key. But, like, folks kind of left forget. Like, he grew up in on Kanye. Right. You know? Yeah.

Fair. I did. Yeah, I grew up on him. And the thing is, you know, it's, it's got them to do with interpersonal relationships. I get along with black people, with people of other races. I have a lot of friends like that. I don't have, you know, because what people always say is if you talk this way,

that means that you hate other people and you hate other people because they're different. They look different. They are different. And I hope, you know, maybe you guys don't believe me, but I hope it's coming across that that's not the basis of my world. You never has been. Like I said, I look my entire life not really believing any of this or understanding any of this. And then I just read books and I looked at some things and I did some thinking on it. And I realized that this is why the world is the way it is. You know, it's largely, it's because genetics are, are very real. That's part of it. And that racial identity is salient, meaning it's important to people. It doesn't mean I treat people differently. It doesn't mean I look down on people or anything like that.

I have love for people, but it's just we want to make sense of the world and inequality. Globalization is forcing lots of different kinds of people live together. And we're having to come face to face with human inequality of all kinds. You know, you go on TikTok, and this is one example, you'll scroll through TikTok and one guy will be famous on TikTok, a guy. or a girl because they're just beautiful. You know, you have like a hot girl or you have a Chad guy. And then you'll screw up and you'll see someone famous on TikTok because they're like deformed, you know, because they're literally like they've got some issue or they'll see someone with roaches on their walls. And it's like communications, technology, all these things is forcing us to come

face to face with severe, objective, immovable human inequality. And it's very uncomfortable and disturbing for people because we like to believe that we like to ignore that. We have this sort of self-help culture where it's like you can be whatever you want. You can overcome anything. And we're being confronted with the fact that that's not true. Some things are just predisposed because of genetics. Some people have a longer lifespan or shorter. Some people be tall or short physically. Die young or die old due to genetic disease factors. Some people will be successful or unsuccessful because of their IQ. And this is true between individuals and groups. And it's unfortunate, but it's the way it is. And, you know, ignoring it is not helping anybody. It may make people

feel better for a moment, but it's obviously not working. Again, man, like that, again, that's definitely true. Now, listen, right, can we like move on to some more, you know, more, you know, more, you know, but lighthearted stuff? Sure. Sure. Yo, is a Nick Fontas dating somebody right now? No, I'm not. Yo, yo, who's your celebrity, like, dream chick? Hmm. Dream. Who?

Well, Megan the stand. No, not really. I will say, though, I, like, I say this on my show usually to disarm people. Like, I'm not just into, I want to marry a white girl, but I'm not just into white girls. That's sort of like my sacrifices. My dream girl's actually Asian. She's a conservative. She's in the conservative movement.

I don't want to name her because then she's going to get in trouble. But that's my dream girl, but it can never be because she's not white. Wow. And I told her that. I told her that. What's that? That's a real commitment right there. A true love story.

That's right. Yeah, Romeo and Juliet. But so who do you like, like Lauren's Southern or Tommy Loren? Which one's hotter? I think Lauren Southern's hotter. Okay. Since the plastic surgery, which she got, which is real. Well, I mean, that helps, you know.

Yeah. Is Tommy falling off? Oh, yeah, I haven't even heard of her, man. Right? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what happened. Well, she got fired because she said she was pro-abortion. She was working for Glenn Beck.

She got fired because, you know, he can't really do that. Right. And you want abortion and condoms to be ruled illegal by the Supreme Court, right? Well, well, right now Supreme Court says the state can't make it illegal. And I want them to repeal that. I think state should be able to make it illegal. And then you'd like to live in a state where it is illegal? Where it is illegal, yes.

To purchase condoms? Yes. So you think more, you don't think more out of wedlock babies would be bad for society? Well, I think that, you know, that's one way to see it. The other way to see it is that the existence of condoms creates moral hazard. I think you may have more out of wedlock bursts with condoms because it's this idea of like a false sense of security. If you have condoms and it's basically, there's, basically, there's, no penalty and there's no consequence for having sex out of wedlock so people do it and then if

the condom fails or if you know it doesn't work or whatever uh you know maybe they wouldn't have had sex otherwise we got to introduce him to NBA young boy he got like 10 babies he's like 22 he had 23 yeah you would love him yeah maybe AD had a baby at 18 and if condoms were around he probably would have fucking 10 by now probably probably 17 does late the 20 okay 20 is late to have a child? In a hood? Yeah. Wow.

Yeah. Fucking flock, though. All right. Anything else? All right. Anything else? No, man. Listen, Nick, I thank you for coming, you know?

Yeah, it was good to have a conversation. Right. Yeah, thanks. And I'm still working on getting Tariq. I asked him and he said, fuck no. Hell no. Oh, really? Okay.

And he says that giving him a platform for him to troll. Again, and he says that he would destroy you easily, but even giving him that like sit down is what he wants because he's going to, he says Nick is going to embarrass himself, but that's what Nick wants to troll and, you know, embarrass himself. That sounds like a culp, but. You don't feel like you're a troll. at any point in this?

I mean, I felt like we got a pretty straight up portrait of who you are. Yeah, I don't, I wasn't trolling. I mean, the people say I'm a troll. I make jokes, you know, and I think people can tell when I make jokes and when I'm, but people can also discern my real views. So I wasn't troll.

I mean, I didn't say anything disingenuous in this interview, if that's what you mean. Right, yeah. So, yeah, I appreciate you having me on. It was great talking to all you guys and meeting everybody and maybe we could get a debate together. For sure, yeah. Yo, listen, if the Riquon do it would,

You do it with Riza Islam? Oh, Lord. I would love to see that. Anybody, I do it. I would love to see them talk. Arizona would definitely do it. I feel like you guys agree on 19. 99% of shit, I feel like you guys would agree on.

Well, you're saying Riza Oslan? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know that guy. I don't know him personally, but I know of him. Yeah, totally. I mean, you definitely agree on COVID. Definitely agree on social media.

Oh, Jewish people? Yeah. Yeah. It actually would be unbelievable. It's hard to, like, I saw that. too. They never released the full thing, but at one point, Nick Nick, not Nick Farran,

went and did an interview with Richard Spencer. And they never released it, but they put out like a little clip of it, and they seem like they're getting along pretty well. And I was thinking, like, yeah, I could totally imagine them agreeing on a lot of shit. Listen, like, we're natural conservatives, though, right?

Like, as black folks, we are heavy, you know, on the Bible, heavy on traditionalism, right? You know, we're just heavy on, you know, Like, we're just conservative by nature. You know, so, but we've been brainwashed into thinking that, you know, there's conservatives who hate black folks, they're racist, et cetera, et cetera, right? So we've been driven into the arms of, you know, the white devil.

Well, people who hate black people are pretty much 100% Republicans, right? Hell no. Well, it's like a pretty safe home for people who have negative feelings for black people. I feel... If you're on the left, you're very, very much discouraged from saying anything. negative people. Yeah. But when they go home, oh, man, you know, you know, when they tell their family's, oh,

man, how I just saved the Negro today. See, he's convinced that I drive home, screaming the unword every night. I don't think you're liberal, though. I'll beat your ass. I am a little. No, you're not you. I took a political quiz the other day and it said establishment liberal. Really?

Wow. Like, that's shocking. I was kind of surprised, too, but here we are. I'm not surprised by that. It's those Clinton ties, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, real. Oh, he knows. Okay. All right, Nick. Thank you for your time. Appreciate you. All right. Thanks. See you guys. Take care, man.

Thanks.