No Jumper - Nino Brown on Getting Invited to The White House by Trump, Getting Blackballed & More

Episode Date: March 18, 2023

Nino Brown talks about not being pressured by social media image, learning from mistakes, growing, money management, being around legends, and more. ----- 00:00 Intro 1:10 Missing the humble beginnings, learning from lessons and helping to educate others 5:30 Rappers faking numbers, relating to your fans and using your pain as fuel to succeed 8:35 Learning from signing with DJ Khaled and how Khaled blocked a feature with T-Pain 14:00 Being controlled by contracts, getting blackballed and meeting Trump at the White House 21:20 Trump refusing to leave the office and Nino says “Make My Bank Account Great Again” 23:00 Being around Gucci Mane, Nicki Minaj, Jay-Z, Michael Jordan and people being fake 25:00 Why the internet is dangerous, Love & Hip Hop ruining the world 28:05 Attention is the new drug, staying organic and content outliving the creators 31:55 The best pastors have come from struggle, finding your purpose and seeing opportunities 35:15 Having an end game for yourself, being selfish when necessary 38:30 Banks using your cash for mortgage loans, living check to check and money management 41:25 Rappers going to jail for PPP loans, Fetty Wap, Casanova and overspending for Instagram 45:30 J. Cole’s frugality, getting rich by not glorifying materials ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Sharp Tank. We here. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today, I feel like I got a legendary influencer from the game of influencing sitting here with us today, ladies and gentlemen. I got Mr. Nino Brown in the building today, man. How you feeling? It's a blessing, man.

It's good to be on the Sharp Tank. Yeah. Man, it's a blessing to be here, man. legends getting together. Yeah, for sure. I've watched you. Me personally, I've been watching you before I even

decided to even do something like this. You know what I'm saying? Or even thought that I could even get in it and, you know, evolve. Right. You know, I was watching you, man, and you been putting it down and been giving it to people for a while now,

you know, and staying consistent. Consistent. And always trying to show love. Man. You know, man, how's it been for you, man? Like for the, how's it been for you being into this game in the media world and things like that, has there been any type of, tell me the goods and bads for you that's been, you know what I'm saying, happening?

The bad definitely going to be the fake stuff you're dealing the game, right? But the good stuff is going to be when you first start off. Like think about it, Shaw, when you first started off, you think back at it now, like, man, I miss them humble beginning. Like for me, I do. Like, I miss the things I used to could do. You get what I'm saying? I can't do some of the things that I used to could do no more.

So it becomes a complex situation where you actually live in your dream. You get what I'm saying? Well, you know, I just love the humble beginnings. I love the work ethic. I love the hustle. So it's been very good, man. It's been, I wish you get to a point where you wish you knew what you knew now back then when you first started and you'll understand why you went through it.

what you went through. That's where I look at it at. I feel like for you, it's kind of like you've walked people through your life. So when you were making mistakes, you would talk about it and tell people, and you would use it as like a form of, you know, just here, here's some game.

I'm going to drop a jewel. They don't even know that maybe some of these things have happened to you, but you're coming and expressing it this way. It's like you're marking your lessons. Right. When you learn and you understand it, man. Yeah, like my thing is,

I was just telling him the day, I was like, hey, man, I spent a lot of my years grinding, and I could just tell it to you in five minutes. I spent 14, 15 years trying to work to get here, right? And I could just talk to you in 10 minutes in a video until you cut the 15 years you're going to have to go through into 15 minutes. So that's the difference between experience. That's the best teacher. So, yeah, walking people through the experience of life

where you ain't got to make the same mistakes that I've done. made. You understand me? And it is an exit dough out. You just got to start building it on your way in. And that's how I look at it. Where are you from originally, Lovell? Miami, Florida. Miami, Florida. I was like that for you growing up. Same thing you probably had to go through, you know, the same thing. Dope selling and Coochie. You know what I'm saying? On every boulevard. You know, it's the same old game, man. They shit changed, but the weather

Well, shit, I feel like these days, you know, in everything that's going on the word, I'm going to speak this in general. I feel like the game, and I was just saying this to one of my partners, I feel like the game, it's not the game that's even changed, just the players, man, that's playing in it, you know? And I feel like that's what's kind of made people that probably in the game, because you can't really, you can't do this shit for long. Somebody either going to tell on you, like we're saying being in the dope game, right, or any type of game like that. Like somebody either going to try to tell on you, try to steal from you. you hate on you. It's more that going on today than actually having the mindset of knowing like, okay, I got in this to make something to myself.

But I see a lot of people get into it, you know, and they get into it just to boast on the next person, to flash on the next person. You know what I'm saying? And I just, I don't really understand that part of it, man. We got into this to make something. Right. You know, to be something great.

Yeah, they lost their innovation and creation. in creation. They're more so hating on each other. They're more so in competition with the people that they eat with. Even friends and groups, like everybody want to be the big chief and nobody want to be the Indian. You get what I'm saying? Shout out of the big chief.

There's too many, it's too many chiefs, not enough Indians. Right. So sometimes you've got to understand that I don't care what part I'm playing on the team long as all us getting a W. It's kind of like passing the ball and seeing your teammate hit the jump shot. you know we're working towards a victory. It don't matter who score. Yeah.

And that's the problem with this society. Like everybody in competition with the name brands. You know what I'm saying? Like I walked in here and I seen Sharp Tank everywhere and I seen Big Chief. And I said, I need that shirt. I need that. I want to wear your brand on my videos. Because that's how we help the culture.

Yes. Understand our power and our reach and our influence. And that's why I've been waiting patiently because I reached out to you a long time ago to get the interview. and I know the flights was fucked up. And now I keep it real. You did show me screenshots. I'm like, man, I'm in the airport.

Like, it was like, it's hard for me to get there. But I figured once me and you sat down, I just wanted to give you your shine and your crown and your flowers because you have been a part of the influencer game for a while now. You are not anybody new to it. And you run the numbers the hell up. Yeah, I go hard and I do everything organically. You know, I used to wonder how these rappers get these numbers.

And I realized in these labels, they got a department not called social media. So a lot of these rappers, they caping with their numbers. And the people that's buying into their promotion and marketing, they're getting scammed and scheme. But as an artist, you really just fooling yourself. Go out there and get the work up. Go out there and get the numbers up. You understand me?

And that's what I did. I understood the one fan at a time train. And I ran on that train until I got as many of mine. And we all share the same fans. It ain't like my fans just for me. They like Sharp. They like Jay-Z. They like Naws, little baby.

They like them for certain aspects of what they're offering. You're kicking game right now. So that's what it's all about. Understand that we're sharing fans, understanding that, you know, I'm going to work my way up. I don't care what it looked like. I don't care if this one don't get that many hits. The true feels, that one might not be for you. But the other people that resonated, that's why I hit them because it hit home.

Homemate, my homemate, they home. You understand? We ain't in the same. So I might be talking to somebody driving the Mayback, but you drive a Toyota, you don't know what that is. So you don't want to even watch that, because you don't think you could drive one. So I'm hitting home with the people that resonate with me.

Yeah. Yeah. I'd be wanting to know, man, how you even find just that truth in you, that energy in you to even bring it, because every time you drop something that's influential, You always bring an energy with it. You always bring the, I can see, I feel it from you, the pain, the happiness. That's the word.

You know. Pain. Yeah. Pain push you to purpose. And purpose give you power and God give you strength. So I went through a lot of my life around DJ Khalid. I went through a lot of my life around being in the hood and the street, jail, prison, let down, looked over, underpaid. underrated to being overbook, to being, you know, overcompulsated.

You know, and I was just telling him like, hey, man, I'm making $110,000 a month. At one point, I wasn't making that. You get what I'm saying? I was making $3,000,000 a month and surviving, but then I realized what I was doing wrong. I was working hard, but wasn't working smart. So my whole thing is turn your pain into purpose and let that purpose turn to power and let God give you strength and the change going to come because the change is

automatically attracted to purpose. It's a bondage. So I found my purpose through my pain and now my pain became a testimony for people that's coming after me. What was the relationship like for you and DJ Khalid? Man. Talk about it. So now I look at it as a college course where at first I didn't like the guy.

I still don't like how he do business. Because if you look at We the Best, because he say that a lot. It ain't really We the Best. Is he the best? He's the only one winning on We the Best. Every artist that he had is either broke, ain't on the label no more, ain't doing nothing. So the whole label is based around him. And I don't have a problem with that.

But my whole thing is a candle don't lose no fire by lighting another candle. Both of them shine bright when they ignite. If I get with you and you have the power to turn me on and put me in position and you see all this greatness that I'm presenting to the world after Caled, I made my first million dollars after Cali, everything came after Cali. First mansion after Caliard. First Mayback Mercedes after Cali. First, multiple homes after Cali. Real estate. After Cali. Everything that I did was after Cali. So before getting to that, God took me through a situation to shape me up with the not. He gave me a million dollars worth the game just for free. So I sat around him and learned how to politic. I learned how to do this. I learned the things he wasn't doing right.

I learned how he used people. I learned how to go back and fix the things that he did wrong with the people for them and exchange it with a favor. You know what I'm saying? Like, hey, man, you ain't do this right, but let me, because I didn't have the money. So I'm working and networking with DJs that he's shitting on just to get his records played and get his music out there marketing. And he doing them wrong when he don't got no record.

He don't call them or answer the phone. I'm answering the phone. I'm checking to see what their kids were to school that they need. And let me buy that for them. Little shit that he wasn't doing. The little shit grow the big shit. Seeds growing the trees. He didn't see the tree.

He's just looking at his seed to grow his plant. I'm looking at the tree. So I could create shade for people like teasing or where I'm being. And the people that I'm trying to break after me. You get what I'm saying? So I learned from me. And I don't hate the guy, don't dislike the guy. I just realized it was all for self.

So it's not we the best, it's he the best. When I first, I didn't like him at first, man. I mean, I'm like, yo, what's up? Well, I'm working with this guy. But the true feels, I thank God for working with that guy. I thank God for learning. And I'm going to say this, the reason I didn't like him. I'm going to give you three examples.

One, T. Payne came to the studio. I like T. Payne. You ain't got that bad said, man. You can be cool. No, that's my dog. I'm fucking T. I was like, damn, hello, bro. Come on, church.

Now we go out of debate. I'm like, fuck. I like me some T-Pain, man. T-Pain came to studio. I'm playing beats. And T-Pain grabbed the beat that I had on and was like, I want to do the song with you. Callag got mad and was like, I didn't call you over here. I call you to do a son with Ace Hood.

T. Payne said, I'll do that next. Let me do Rich Kids. Let me do, at the time I'm Rich Kids. He's like, let me do Rich Kids song. He did my song. And then that was one occasion. Then the second occasion is me and Birdman at the I'm on one video shoot with Caled, Drake, and Lil Wayne.

And Birdman say, before Calid came, he was like, yo, I want to put you on, I'm going to put you in position. And he was like, I'm going to talk to Cali because this Ace Hood, shit ain't working. We flopping. We got to get somebody in the streets fucking with you right now. So I'm like, yeah, talk to Cald and let's go. So I'm crying tears of joy. I thought Ace said that a little bit of violence. Yeah, it's a motion.

The word a little bit is you got to scrutinize that word. I mean, I like Ace Hood. He's a positive individual. But let's be honest, after Calut detached, he retract back to what he was before Caled. Nobody thinking about him. He's a fitness trainer. My whole thing is, let me finish my last statements. Birdman talked to Cali, hey, I want to put him in position.

Callet say, I don't know about that. And the conversation just went away. So then the last one was Fat Joe stepped to me, hey, I want to manage you. Calut, my brother, I know I can get you on. You got too much hustling you. I say tell Cali. He told Cali, next thing I know Cali telling me behind Fat Joe back, like, man, if you mess with Fat Joe, man, if you go behind him and mess with him and I ain't fucking with you no

more. Because Fat Joe really was the muscle. Fat Joe really could have got him to do what I needed him to do. And he didn't want that pressure because he didn't see me as an artist. He saw me as a friend. That's the problem with me and Calais. We became best friends. We wasn't business.

And I'm signed to this man at this time. And I got a fucking roof with a leak in it and kids that I got to feed and I ain't got no car. So friends end at that point that we can't make no ends meet. And we can't do business. We can't do business, bro. We can't do business. So I went through all these situations and I just like went through a phase where I lost everything. And I just say, man, fuck this guy.

I can't fuck this guy no more. And then, you know, God blessed me. And I forgave him. And I say, you know what? And he called me back like, yo, I want to work back with you. But I'm like, at this point, no, fuck you.

You know what I'm saying? I can't fuck with you no more because the way you did me when I ain't had shit. Fuck you. You understand me? Don't fuck with me no more. Fuck everything about you.

And that was just that. But now I respect it and I appreciate what he taught me. Well, maybe it's what you took out of it. What I took out of. Because you had to take yours, it sounds like to me. And no offense to him or nothing.

Right, right, of course. This wasn't something that I feel like in the situation from how you're explaining it, that he gave you. Right. This was something you said, give me my shit. You took what you felt like you could learn from it, and you moved on.

That's it. That's it. And that's what I was telling my man. I'm like, yo, don't sign no deal. I said, how bad is everybody want to get a record deal, record deal, record deal, record deal, record deal. When you, I turned down a $2 million contract podcasting deal, right? And everybody was like, you crazy.

But I wasn't because I'm signing to somebody that's affiliated with artists. So if I walk away, if I go to that, I got to limit what I say now. I can't say this about this. Even if I stand in my truth, they don't want that because they control my content. I'm signed to them. They control your narrative. Right. So I had to walk away from that deal.

And yeah, I was looked at as a fool. But now to me, three years later, I feel like I've made the best decision in my life. You know, to walk away from being controlled and just own my shit. I don't have to have all the money. I don't got to have all the industry connections and contact. All I need is what God got for me. Do you feel like Callet was trying to control you and you was like break the shackles? Control and manipulate and you can't control a real nigga.

How are you going to control Sharp Taylor? Yeah, that's real shit though. How are you going to control Big Chief? I'm just even going out to Big Chief. Because I'm going to say this. Like, yeah, I'm not with that. You ain't going to put no shackles on me. It ain't going to be none of that.

Like you said, you can't control a real nigga. That was a general statement. I love that statement, and I feel like the viewers needed to hear that you cannot control a person that stands for something. No. And for themselves. You just can't do it, man. It's not going to happen.

And I don't care who that is. It don't matter. It could have been Callet's third cousin. It doesn't matter. Like, it stands for what it stands for. That's why they blackball real niggas. That's why they blackballed people that's real. You ain't got to be an N-I-G-G-A.

You could be just somebody that stand for something. you're going to always get blackball and ridiculed. You understand me? Even Trump. I know people that don't like Trump and can't stand Trump, but the truth is the truth. The man kept the 100. I'd rather somebody tell me they don't like me to my face

than be up there like Joe Biden or one. And I ain't going into politics, but just think about this. They all oppressors. But if somebody going to stand in front me and tell me they don't like me, I respect them more to somebody that's hard. But they hold past show that they never liked you. Come on, man. Just keep it real with me, man.

Keep it real, man. You got to make America great again at that point. Yeah. Because I know this mother don't like me, but at the end of the day, he's telling me that he a red situation. The other guy, he's hiding it behind the blue. Hey, let me tell you something.

I'm going to say this for it. Mm-hmm. And did not touch politics too deep, but to touch it enough. They said when, when, they said they wanted a real nigga in office. When Trump got in there, you got one. You got one.

He just, Orange, niggins. Shout out to him. That's right. Shout out to him. That's right. You know what I'm saying? Donnie. I mean, shout out to him because I fuck with him.

But I'm saying, they said that they wanted one in office. You got one. You know what I'm saying? Kitchen was closed. What he did when the team came? Got everybody McDonough here at McDonald'sburg. He shut the home. You niggas, me.

You know what you want? Oh, fuck with him. You want a couple fries. You want a couple fries. But it's crazy because. And they try to talk bad about him, by him. That's what I'm saying. And the thing they did, bro.

They did. My first time in the White House was with Trump. He brought me to the White House. He said, I like your content. I like what you're doing. And brought me to the White House. Gave me a hotel at his hotel in the Trump in D.C. And got me chauffe it in the, what it was, a Rolls Royce to the damn White House.

Then we got three bills passed. Kim Kardashian was there. You know, I don't even want to talk. I don't like them. So she was there. I don't like them at all. They're garbage. But she was there.

The Cartration girl was there. The Cartration girl was there. Kanye was outside somewhere. Everybody was there. And I'm there, you know, I'm a real nigga from the trap house in the White House. Right. And I'm looking at Cartesian them in there. I'm sorry, bro.

I'm just, I'm like trying to hold like my car. So we got the orange nigga in the car trash. Right. This nigg is live, probably. All right. Continue, please, please. So I went to the White House. Right.

It was an interesting situation. Had a good time, got a chance to meet Trump, took a picture with. That's live. Him and his daughter. Got a chance to do anything. They offered me another. I actually had a private meal with Trump. This is why I know what real money is.

So for a meal, they was doing donations like the billionaires in the room. And it was 12-seater, right? And everybody had to pay $297,000 or something like just under $300,000 just to have dinner with Trump. And it was 12 seats. And it was so it was like no more. And I was there. And I'm sitting there like, wow, this is the kind of power that I need to be around.

Like I need to be in these. So he offered me some money to promote his 2024 campaign. I ain't take the offer because once you get into politics, look at Kodak Black, look at everybody, look at Lil Wayne. you jump into politics, they're gonna scrutinize your head. And Kodak Black is one of the people that Donald Trump actually helped. That's why Kodak Black say, no, that's my people. He said, I'm not about to talk bad about it, man.

That man helped him out out of a bind. For real, though. That a real bind. That man was going to go down, you know, and shout out to Kodak Black, man. Like, he was on some shit. He had some shit going on. And here come Donald Trump, man, to look out. I look at it like this.

And like I said, we ain't got to dive too deep into it. And I love the conversation about it. Right. But at the end of the day, I would want a businessman running this shit. Trump's a businessman. That's it. He's a businessman, bro. Because there's too much business.

That's what causes everything. That's what causes friction. That's what causes cool shit is business. That's right. So what do we need? Businesses making the world go around. Everything that's going on from oil to just gas, just everything. Like, it's business is what makes the world go around.

I think it's best that we do have a businessman there that's not going to have his heart just wearing his heart on his sleeve. That's right. You know what I'm saying? I need somebody that's going to come up in there. Sometimes there's going to be a corporate decision that needs to be made. Because he's all about business, look at the economy when he was in. Look at all the people that got money.

Look how much money was floating around when he was in office. I'm off with him, bro. I ain't got nothing bad saying about Trump. I never did. And I think that he came in and proved a lot of people. wrong. That's it. I really do. That's it. That's it.

Hell, yeah. You got to hell yeah. Trump, next time you bring me to the White House, you got to bring Shaw up with me. Next time you bring me to the White House, Shaw coming with me. Yeah, I would love to come, man. We'd be back in the, for real. You know what's funny about him, you know,

because the day they was trying to kick him out, he wouldn't leave. He was playing golf on the course. Wow. Wow. He refused to leave. I'm playing golf. I'll leave.

You know, because he was playing golf. because they gave, you know, you got a certain amount of time to vacate. You got to get out of the White House. You know what they give you like a couple months after election, 30 days or some shit after election. Before they evict your ass. He didn't leave. He said, I'm bad. I'll leave when I'm ready pretty much.

I'm golfing. He was out there playing golf. They catch him out there. They're like, obviously he's not worried. No, he's not worried about none of this. He paid, he said, and now he running for, he running for 40, what he is, going to be 47? He's running for the 47, so. I think he's going to make it.

I mean, who else? The scientists? I mean, I don't know. I don't care who will make it all I care about if this bad. Make my bank account great again. I don't care nothing about America. I mean, I love a Mary Hill, but let you be honest. Make my bank account great again.

Whoever going to get in that office and make that bank account great again, man, listen, that's all I care about it. I think there's going to be hundreds of thousands of viewers that's going to agree with what you just said. Make my bank account great again. That's all I'm saying. I don't care about none of that shit y'all care about. Man, y'all can have all that. Just send me my money, man.

That's it, man. We'll talk about all that other shit later. Y'all can hate you in the barbershop. Y'all can get in the Nails & a lot, talk about that bullshit. But we're talking about they got their money. Make my bank count great again, baby. Trump, what's up with it? So you've also, so me listening to you,

you've dealt with people in the music business, like main profile. Because when you bring up Calid and, like, you know, being around Birdman and just people like that. Like, you don't been around this shit. You definitely had some experience. Yeah, I've been around a lot of people, man. Gucci, man, Nikki Menard before she blew up.

Oh, man, Jay-Z, we in him rode the Mayback together one-on-one, giving me game. I just remember all these times, man. I mean, I'd have met Michael Jordan. You know what I'm saying? GZee, we went on tour together. I mean, I don't been around all of them. But one thing I can say about this game is only like one or two of them that have. one or two of them that's real.

Most of them fake as hell. From the money they say they got, from the lifestyle they say they live, from the things they say they are do for people. It's all fake. It's all cap. And that's what I want to step in the game and tell people, like, check this out. Man, I'm going to stand on what I believe in. I'm going to stand on, you understand, anything I say I'm going to do for people, I'm

always trying. Even when you hit me and say, hey, man, and then the airport did what they did, I couldn't control But at the end of the day, I'm here. New year. And that's why I feel like it's all, listen, man, real ones fuck or real ones. Even if you would have just told me, appreciate you. If you would have to show you didn't even have to show you showed me the flight. You went as far as showing me.

I'm in the airport. Like talking like, look, man, this shit's all delayed. It was fucked up. I don't think it was when they was landing a lot of flights. Some shit had happened. Yeah. But I was like, man, real shit happened to real niggas, man. I'm not going to sit there and be like, oh, he capping on me.

Oh, he's acting brand new. I keep it cool, man. People got lives. I look at it like that because I know I have one. Right. So I'm not, I got to put myself in your shoes. Like, man, shit, they got shit to do. He ain't get around to this shit.

We'll sit down and be able to kick this. And I feel like it's been great so far, man. I love having you here, man. I love you coming through and dropping jewels to the viewers, man. They need it. They have to have it. They need it. This shit is mandatory, man.

Yeah, they need it. You know what I'm saying? Because shit is getting fucked up out of here, man. Like, it's, like, and I've said all the fucking time, you know. The internet is a dangerous place because people misuse it more for bad than they do good. People don't understand that the internet ain't do nothing to nobody. It's the people that's behind the module. It's to be people behind the agendas.

It's the money that's being dumped in a certain area to make you draw to it. The internet just been to the internet since day one. The problem is social media ruined the real world, the perception of reality. Love and hip hop ruined the real world because took the love out of households. Think about when we grew up, we had shows like Family Matters. You want some of the drink terms? I'm good. Family Matters, Martin.

We had shows that- Those was dope. Those was dope. But it showed home boys and it also showed a man going home to one woman at that time. You've got good times. It showed you how to have good times in the Pol family. Think about the slow songs, Jodacy, H-Town. Think about all the, just the, you understand me, the good music. Oh, nobody's making, I'll tell you this, and we can talk about that for even R&B.

Ain't nobody making no good love songs no more. That's why nobody even love. Like real love songs, man, for real. I'm talking about, like, and I ain't even saying I'm that type of nigger because I'm not. But them niggas, they used to cut RB back in the day with some begging ass things. And the bitches, and they loved it. The bitches loved it, man. They loved it, man.

Joe, see, all them niggas, I fuck with them. They made the best begging ass songs in the world. Man, look. In the world, man, that's why they was on. You're everything I do. Like, all them niggas, man. They do all that shit. I know I can't hit the note.

They hit it better than me. That's why they made the song. I tried to help you out a little bit. Yeah. You didn't hear me over here, dude. But you know what? This is. I was going here when they took the love out of music and replaced it with a city girl.

And then they took the love out the hip hop, two part, and the biggest in all the rest on was out there kicking that keep your head up in a time like this in a recession. When we ain't got nobody telling you, I just want to rock, rock, rock, I just want to smoke rock, rock, rock. You get what I'm saying? Damn. Damn. Whatever that is, whatever the dude is, but it's the biggest song ever.

So, making the young kids think, I got to go out there and do that, to stay on. So in the course of it, the blind leading the blind, and the whole world ain't got an eye for it. Everybody looking at the money, but don't know what to do with the money. You just getting the money. Don't know how to turn it, flipping and turn it. You get what I'm saying? And that's why the girls, they follow in the girls that's going over there to get goddamn surgery. Then you just seen the four people that died in Mexico from going over to get surgery.

You see what going on, women dying on the table risking their life for some attention. Attention to new drug or goddamn... It is. Yeah. Let me tell you something. It's a motherfucker can have millions and they still want attention. Yeah. They still rather have attention.

Like, they don't give a fuck than money. Motherfucker would rather have it. You ask them right now, what would you rather have? Would you rather have a million dollars or a million followers? Or a million followers? They'll be like a million followers. And you know what? That's cool if you were to say like,

because I know what to do with those million followers to generate me a million dollars. But they're not even doing it for that. No. That's not the reason why you want them. You want it to be able to say, look at me. Look at me. Look at me.

Look at me. I want to be able to come on and eat a bag of hot Cheetos and my fingers red as hell with it all in the corners of my mouth and I got 5,000 to 10,000 people just watching. No, that's trash. Look at me. If you want that, that's trash. You everything I do.

Everything you do trash by this. Because y'all looking for attention. Y'all looking at the wrong thing. You understand me? Look for what the game missing. The game need a sharp tank. The game need a need O'Brien. What the game need from you.

That's what's going to make you rich. Don't do what they're doing. They got a bunch of generics out here. But this is organic. This is organic. When we die, we're going to. down as legends. You could always, matter of fact, we passed the live forever, Marl because you can always go

back and play this video long after I'm dead and look at this junk. You could look at him for the ever. Like he gone, 60 years from now, 70, 80 years from now, he gone. Guess what? This content live forever. Do you know I think about that? And that touches my heart on me because I think about that in every interview I ever drop, that even when I'm gone, what am I leaving behind?

That's right. let me not detour somebody. Even if I come off, people say it comes off as aggression, no, it's passion. Like, sometimes you've got to tell people like that. That's the only way they're going to listen. Hearing goes in one ear and out to others. So if you sit there sometimes just talk to a person normally about it,

like, yeah, probably shouldn't do that. That shit, they're not even listening, man. They're ready to get up and go. But when you tell them firmly, even if they don't accept the game right thin and there, I promise you, they will take that shit home, move the coffee table and try a couple karate moves without anybody looking. That's right. I can go for that.

I mean, you ain't got to even show nobody but tried. I don't tell people things just to tell them. And I know that this shit's going to, I hope this is like a, this is my time capsule. Right. And I'm just trying to leave behind as much game of life possible because in the next 20 years, 30 years, the average day moral will be gone. Gone. It will be gone. You have to go to a museum.

museum to see a real woman, what a real woman was. Yeah. Organic woman. You got to go to a museum to see that. Donnie, that don't scare you, Donnie? Oh, yeah. If you're smart, you don't want to reproduce. If you smart right now, you don't want to reproduce right now until the world get a little

better. Yeah. Until you see some young leaders out here, some young shard tapes, some young Nino Brown, some people that's going to carry on this legacy to change the world. because morality is gone. And I ain't talking about from what we came from. I'm talking about for what we do today. That's right.

For what we show today. It's not about where we've been. It's about what we pull to this shit today. That's right. And I feel like that's important, man. You know what I'm saying? Yes. That's why I love you, you know, man.

You've been real in the reels and things that you drop and you just having this fame from it, but to meet you in person and to see that you keep it the same fucking way. even just meet you off camera, you keep it the same way that you do on. Bro, it ain't no faking, bro. I just put the crown on the shades on. But I just, I sleep like, do he tell you, man? I really am that, bro, because I understand what it is to not have this shit.

I understand what it is to be fake. I mean, bro, some of the best passes in the world was the ones that went through the most shit in the street. People don't look at that. That's the one who got the biggest testimony, even you coming from the street. Everybody then came from their set of blues. And if you use your mind to tell the younger generation that's looking up to the old shop, like, man, look, man, that was out of here, man, of getting it in. I wasn't something.

I don't feel like that was something for anybody. That ain't something for you to look up to, man, to me. See? And just being real, if I think about it now and I feel like it comes with growth. Like if I think about it now, no, that's not something I would want to teach to somebody because not everybody can handle this shit, man. It'll ball you up in the corner and make your stomach hurt. You know what I'm saying?

I don't want to see people hurt themselves. No. Or be hurt through things. No. You know what I'm saying? Like, for real. So I don't, I do not tour people on or detour people off to, hey, man, go be a pimp. Go be a drug dealer.

Here, go fuck. You're like, no, man. All I do is. Find your way. You have a way. Everybody has a purpose. Everybody has a gift. Find your way.

Wow. Because it's there. That's it. I say it all the time. There is a million ways out of a chokehold. You just got to find one way, your way. And today, the oldest you ever been and the youngest you're going to ever be. You got to make sure you utilize this day we're living in.

You're only going to be 18 one time. And it takes 18 years to be 18. Fuck. Can't do it in one year, you can't do it in five. You can't do it in 17. It take 18 years to get there. It took him time to get where he had as a transform. You understand me?

Redefined man, me too. That shit was hard. It was hard. That shit was hard, man. You had to want it. And when them windows come around, the motherfuck is damn there like eclipses, man. They don't come around often. That's right.

It's not every night you can go jump through the window of success or jump through the window of transition. It doesn't happen like that. especially when you came from being knee-deep in something. But you know what? You just said it. When the opportunity came, you took it. It's times where we be out here as street dudes, right?

And we getting that street money, and that money be 10 and 20 a week, right? And we realized that the dream, let's say Sharp Tank before Sharp Tank was Sharp Tank. It probably had five followers. At that time, we're still in the street. Watch this, though. We don't know this is it.

And this ain't even the peak of your potential. But just think about what I'm saying. In the time we get money in the street, we like, man, I got to stick with this street shit because it's paying. But we don't know this is the retirement plan. We need to put as much effort as we can into this now, the same energy we put in them streets. You don't never hear nobody like, I'll be real with you.

Anybody that I've came from, like being around the game, nobody had in-game for themselves. themselves like fuck everybody else especially from where I come from because I came from a game of having to worry about everybody else so it's like when do you really worry about you for your end game I can't be too busy just constantly I can't 100% just worry about yours because yours might fuck around and beer off from me and your boat don't want to go my direction and I got to make sure I got me a raft too baby that's right I got to have me a raft too I got to build me a just in case of emergency break glass. Because guess what?

When you on the plane, they tell you, in case of emergency, you take care of yourself first. Before you even take care of your kid, you put the oxygen man on you. You can't. How could you help anybody?

Anybody. If that sounds selfish, then fucking so big. But I can't help nobody if I can't help myself first. I'd look like a fucking retard. I'd look like a fool, a whole fool.

But guess what? A damn fool. It was one time where you were selfless in order to understand what selfish really is. You were selfless. You was giving out love and help to everybody until you realized who pouring back into this cup. I could have had a, I'll tell you this. And I know it's always a should or coulda coulda woulda. But I know that if I wasn't, I could have had way more.

If I was a stingy, selfish bastard. You know what I'm saying? Like, I know I could have had way more. I ought to been playing fucking golf with Bill Gates and fucking Edmigman. man of some crazy way out shit. Right. I wouldn't have been here. No.

Money would have been up and I would have been gone. But you got to give. It's a lot of giving that goes on. I think that's for anybody that got in any game of dope selling of anything. It was to help. You got people. You got to help, man. It's some fucked up shit going on.

That's why I started. I didn't get into it because it was a fad or a style. You know, you need to make a better way. You need money now. right now to fix situations that are going on right now. These can't wait for five months. I've said it be, you know, Roy Douglas, I sat down with him one time.

It's AD's daddy, and I sat down with him, and he was like, he told me, he said, man, Sharp, he said, you know, the average American household cannot handle a $400 emergency. Damn. It fucked me up because I was like, damn, it's real. He was like the average, he says, the average American household.

He says cannot handle a $400 emergency right now and still be cool to make groceries next week for the week. That's crazy. It's fucked up, man. And the average American bank account only got $500 or less. Matter of fact, about 92% of 88 to 92% of American bank accounts have $500 less. I used to do this test. I used to tell people, when you go to the ATM to take out money, if you see a receipt, go read. the available balance of what people just took out

and what they got left. It is shock you. They was taking out more than they had left in the bank. To go do what with it? To bullshit. You know, let's think about it when you put your money in the bank, right? And I feel like this is,

oh, if this don't get us kicked. Opens don't get us demonetized. Donnie, you got to stop us sometime here, bro. You can't. Hey, no, but for real. Like, we all know this, though. When you put your money in the bank,

the money goes, flip your money. They just show you on the phone that this is the, this is the amount that you have. But once you go put your money in the bank, that money goes on to go flip 10 times over again for the banks, for financial movements, for houses, for things like that, for loans, like shit that they take the, man, bro, that money stays flipping. You just have something that just shows you in your banking app that that's what you have available. But you can't touch it. You can't touch it. You can't touch, man. Walk in there right now and tell them you want to take everything out of your account. We're all along.

You didn't call us. You didn't call us. We weren't prepared for that today. Let's just say you got a million or two in the bank. You know what I'm saying? You're like, I want to take my $2 million out of your bank right now. What did they tell you, Donnie? Well, I got to order it.

You got to order your money. You got to order your money. That's crazy. But it's true. It's true. You can't get no money without ordering it, but they could use your money. And they made more money off overdrafts than anything. Oh, my God.

There's people that pay $4 to $500 a month in overdraft fees. And they don't really trip it because they end up having it and they just pay it back. But, man, dispute to the people. Dispute some of that shit. Call the banks. Let them know. I don't even know how this charge happened. That's right.

And it'll happen off of, let's just say. We're talking about people that, man, you know, they're living check to check. You know, I resonate with them. I want to under, I understand. I've been there. So I can, I can understand when the banks, like how they try to play this whole little narrative, man, of, you know, you know, hey, you always say, here, you're, you had something that's set for automatic payment, right?

Something that automatically comes out your bank. You didn't put it in there just yet. That's a $34 charge. That's right. On top. So let's say you got five bills that came out that. month that you just didn't get a chance to go put the money in the bank just yet you got the money you didn't get a chance to put it in there you're getting a $34 charge for every single transaction

I don't care if even if you got a fucking Apple that you pay for your Apple shit a month 999 where you always got that the bill that comes out from Apple every month that's like 10 bucks you're going to get a $34 charge from your bank not having that money in there it sucks some people are paying four or five hundred bucks in overdraft fees a month but you know what you know know what, you were just saying something about check to check. That applies to artists. I'm gonna tell you how. Let's talk about it.

So let's say a rapper, right? And I'm gonna prove what I'm saying. Let's say a rapper make $30,000 a show, right? And he averaging about two shows a week, maybe even five to six a month, right? But his bills is $120,000 a month. That's talking about rent. That's talking about card nose. That's talking about the bitches he's taking care of.

That's talking about everything that he got going on. Now when COVID hit, why? So watch this. All these rappers making all this money, right about the money, but the first people taking out the PPP loans was the rapper. The first one going to jail was rappers for doing illegal shit because they can't make the money to pay the bills that they was paying when they was making show money. So when I say it's levels to this shit.

When Meek Mills say that, rather, it is levels to this shit. shit because look at Fettywap. He caught a situation in the COVID era where he was selling, you know, doing whatever he's doing. Now he in prison for five, six, seven years on some dope shit when he's making money on out. You look at FettyWap,

the dude still, big, still, hot, still relevant. Look at the Casanova. Look at all these rappers that went in on some federal fraudulent shit. Indictments. Right. Yeah, there was indictments. Because we would look at them and be like, man, they're making money. They make

in a hundred thousand a month. But if they bills matching up to what they make in and they only pocket in 2000, when a month come or three months or even how long COVID lasts it two to three years, bro, it starts pulling out of them, it pulled down them eagles out the sky. Well, it's hard for a person that comes from getting money and they've built this overhead to downsides. Right. And I understand that.

That's right. But you got to look at the obstacle course here, honey. That's right. If it's time for you to downsize, nigger. Amen, maybe Maestro ain't in the plan today. That's right. You know what I'm saying?

Papadose. It's not in the, it's not in the plan today. That's right. You better go to that motherfucking grocery store and go get some, make groceries. That's real.

And go up in there and go make you something to eat. That's right. It doesn't take, I'd rather have that all. I'd rather have a knot in my pocket or a knot in my bank account than versus to go out

to a fucking Mastro's, sit down, spin 550, and shit the shit out by morning and to put on Instagram. Sure.

I don't want, I don't fuck that. Who am I proving something to? Fuck this memory. I want my memories to last a lifetime. That's the problem. Everybody used that shit to make memories for a second. I want to make memories for a lifetime. That's right.

Give a fuck about posting my food. What am I doing? I was always taught when I was coming up, you don't ever do that to people. No. And you can't offer them none. So all the people that have sat there and posted their food, I don't give fuck.

How am you got a thousand likes. You're a thousand. people meals. See? That's the truth. Teach some real game. That's the truth. You don't put nothing

in nobody face like that. You don't know who's hungry out here. You don't know who didn't eat today. You over here posting this shit. Moving your macaroni and cheese around making weird ass sounds. Don't even want to get into it. I don't like it.

I don't like it, man. The camera ate it before they ate it. The camera see the plane before you get on it. The camera see what you bought the well before you buy. Everybody got this phone out. Everybody's showing off. And that's why I'm trying to. to tell you the rapper do go broke from maintain the lifestyle that he can't uphold with his shit

foe. That's why I like Jay Cole. That's why I like Jay Cole. You notice, I feel like why he stands out to me is because I feel like he's went the opposite direction. This nigga don't buy Joe. I mean, I'm sure he's got a couple pieces. He's probably got a couple things that he likes. You know what I'm saying?

That thing is paid. He paid. He's paid. He'd be walking through the airport on the normal. He'll catch a regular foot. flight like he don't give a fuck he is saving his money because you know why i feel like he's got a vision and he's fucking preparing for something he knows something he's not trying to eat he's seen a lot of rappers go up the charts and having money and but only few even stay in it because of their good

name it's not because they don't lose the money i feel like every rapper didn't went bankrupt once at least. Right. Right. But the truth. At least, right. At least once, you know, even if nobody knew about it, they couldn't tell. But the true fears with Jay Cole, he walked around like Jesus in the Bible and got hundreds of millions of dollars.

His Jay Cole Fest, I forget what it's called Dream World or something like that. Yeah. Dreamville. Dreamville. This man got Drake. Drake is a million dollar performer. Then he got all kind of artists on this lineup. He can't be broke.

You get what I'm saying? I think to this day he still ain't got no JZ feature. And he did it all without that. He didn't need no jewelry. You see the man walking around with a skateboard, kick push. It's not about what he riding in. It's about what he's- He do be swagging though.

His clothes, even though he'd be wearing like the baggage on all that should be expensive though. I ain't gonna lie. He ain't dressing like a bum. He just don't go and get the shit that niggas, man, I'm getting 100 Cubas. a hundred Cubans, I need a roly and an AP on each wrist. You know what I'm saying? Like, I need the Rari sitting outside.

A matching one right behind it. Yeah. He's not doing that, bro. He's getting value, not quantity. Yes. He's getting quality. Yes. And he knows what it is.

You ain't got to know. And if you know money, you know it when you see it. Like, you see what J. Cole got on? But the people that's into the flash, they're looking at him like he broke. But really broke, looking broke is the new rich for the rich. Yeah. Rich people, the only people I know can get away wearing dirty shoes. I've said this a long time ago.

It's always been the man with the beer belly coming in with the Tommy Bahama shirt on, the cargo shorts, and some new balances on. Riches in the building. That's him. Riches in the building, man. He don't care what anybody thinks about what he has on. I'll come in this motherfucker in pajamas. I'm getting paid.

I'm getting paid. I got a bankroll more than everybody that's in here. Them the ones that I listen to. Because you know why they don't glorify shit. That's how you get rich. You cannot glorify, you know, materials. You cannot glorify.

You can't do that. Yeah, you can't be materialized. I mean, let me tell you how much that Gucci and all that shit don't matter. Like at the end of the year or end of the season, they take it and burn it before they give it out. Don't the Bible says something of you can't, don't glorify idols. Right. There's no idols. That's right.

Right? That's what it says. There's no idols. Right. But look at who all the idols are, all these name brands. That's true. All these name brands, right or wrong? They're true?

All these name brands from, like you said, Gucci. And like I said, I like I said, I like them. But I've noticed a lot of people glorified them. They glorify them. They feel like they're not dripping if they ain't got it on. In our era, when we grew up, you understand me, Nike's was cool. You understand me, Macy's was cool. Polo was cool.

In this era here, if you ain't wearing Louis Vuitton, Valencia, Versace and all that shit, you ain't dripping. I feel like us as black folks. We buy more of that shit than we do try to buy business. That's right. Or try to buy something for us that's going to make us some money. That's right. You know what I'm saying?

And I feel like who's really buying all this shit? Who buys all that, the name brand shit? Because I always see my kind. We buy it all. We buy it up. That's it. We buy the shit up. I ain't seen more money during the pandemic gets spent on fucking designer

alcohol and crab legs than I've ever seen in my motherfucking life and see seafood, you know what I'm saying? In my motherfucking life, man, during that pandemic. They sold tons of it. I'm not saying not everybody went and just fucked off but there was more few than there was a mass majority of people

really trying to take their bread and go make it do something for them. Turn it over. You know what I'm saying? No, that's real. Like, you know? They made everybody else rich. Nobody get more rich all black people than Apple, Jordan, and Hennessy.

Hennessy, Apple, the new iPhone. Your iPhone work goddamn fine, but you want the new iPhone 15, and you just got the 14 two months ago, but it's the new one out. They're treating these phones like leases. It's like a lease. And it costs water in the TV. It's like you upgrade every year, right? But you still paid a lot on the phone.

That's right. They still got the money out of you. Now they're about to get ready to throw you right back in the same. mixture. It's like a lease, like when people lease cars, right? It's like you're leased in phones now. It's $1,500, $1,600 for a phone and a TV in Walmart. Biggest this one up here is only $250. And I'll have your kids glorifying that shit coming to ask you, Daddy, can you get me the new iPhone? They don't really think about the money of it and how we're really getting whooped and that there's going to be a new one that comes out next year, that you're cool

with upgrading every three years, baby girl. You know what I'm saying? No, they're looking at it like, all shit, the new iPhone came out. I don't really know about the pricing. I just want it. And then think about it. It's not being advertised on TV and commercials as talking text. It's being advertised off a camera. Think about that.

Hey, I'll tell you this, right? Uh-huh. For, like, and I'm not going to say Apple doesn't advertise. They don't advertise as much as a lot of other people. But if you look at like Aston Martin, Bentley, Rose Royce, fucking, you name it, from fucking all the, supercars. They don't got commercials.

What's the last time if you seen a Ferrari commercial on TV? The people that can afford them don't watch TV. They don't watch TV. Don't nobody, you ever notice that? They don't got no commercials. You ain't ever seen the new Ferrari commercial. Oh yeah, come grab this new F-12 starting at fucking $259,000 market price. You know how they break it down right there for you?

You know what I'm saying? You can come maybe get a deal. They don't do that shit. You walk inside them dealerships, bro. Them dealerships are did they're not like Lexus and Toyota. And when you walk in there, the dealerships full of life, right? It's full of life. People are getting oil changes, all types of shit going on.

People laid on their payments. People are trying to get their shit done. Some people picking up their pink slips, whatever. You walk inside Austin Martin, bro, Bentley, places like that, Rose Royce. Man, it's probably you and maybe an old lady in there. That's true. You know what I'm saying? Maybe you and an old lady, man.

It's quiet. Ain't nobody up in there. You can hear a pin drop. You can hear a fucking bent penny drop. That's crazy. And I appreciate you coming, man. We're going to have to kick it again like this, man. It just comes to down.

Anytime you come down to L.A., man, I promise you. And I'm here, I'll always make time for you to come and sit down, man. Is there anything that you want to leave the viewers with before we check out here? Man, I just want to tell y'all, man, anything possible. I just want to tell you to believe in yourself, believe in your vision, even when nobody, else around, you can see it. I also want to tell you that everybody can't go. I know you want your niggas to go, your mama to go, your sister could go.

But the true feels, whatever vision God put in you, align yourself with that vision, 11, 11. Make alignment with it, man. Even if they don't see it, when you get to it, they'll understand it when they start making the dollars come and start making sense. Just stay focused, stay in your passion, and turn your pain into passion and let God. guard gave you sprint so you could chase your purpose. It's all I want to say. Neil Brown, I appreciate you, man, for coming and rocking with me.

You hear me? My dog. Definitely, hey, you, we need to talk business. Yes, sir. For real. I got some ideas, man. I think that you might be interested in. Let's do that.

All right, we're going to chime out on them. It's time the Sharp Tank. The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. Hey, Donnie. Shoot us out the motherfucking gym.