No Jumper - Nipsey Hussle's Artist J $tone's 1st Interview Since Nip's Passing

Episode Date: October 16, 2019

J Stone graces us with his first interview since Nip's passing to talk about his new career trajectory, coping, grieving and representing Nip's forever. --- FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://sp...oti.fi/2vi9lsD CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper and iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 and follow us on Social Media: http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm follow Adam22 as well: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and follow adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:38 Let's get right into this content. No, Jumber. Coolest podcast on World. Today, we're here to speak with a very important L.A. representative, somebody who's been through a lot over the last six months in particular, Jay Stone. How you feeling, man? Man, I'm feeling good, man. Yeah, it's nice to be here, man.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Good looking, man. I appreciate it. Yeah, I got a lot of respect for you. I've been hearing about you for a lot of years. All of a sudden, it seems like maybe your mission. of whatever you've been trying to do is all of a sudden more important. There's more weight on your shoulders.
Starting point is 00:01:05 True or false? Yeah, I feel like I got the weight of the world on my shoulder, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Interesting, yeah. So for those who don't know, Jay was one of Nipsey's closest affiliates. Let's talk about your early days, though,
Starting point is 00:01:16 of like before you maybe even met him, like your upbringing, growing up, I really want to contextualize that shit. I mean, before the music, it was just the streets. You know what I'm saying? We were just being in the hood, you know, on 10th Ave all day, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:01:29 and just, you know, doing what we're doing in the streets. From what age? We were teenagers. Yeah. Yeah. So you guys went to high school together and everything like that? Nah, he went to, he went to, I think he went to Hamilton. I went to Crenshaw.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Okay. Yeah. And so where the connection come from in terms of you guys being so close? You know, we're from the same neighborhood, you know what I'm saying? So that right there just, you know, and then, you know, we like the same things, you feel me? So we got together on that. Then we both were doing music. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:01:57 And he had a passion for music. I had a passion for music, so, you know, we'll be hustling in the streets, and then we're like, man, you know what, let's go to the studio. You know what I'm saying? We went to the studio, we vibed out, and then we just started making records after records, and then, you know, shit took off after that. So this is way before he saw any kind of success? Yeah, this was way before he even signed his first deal, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:02:18 before Epic and all that, you know what I'm saying? We was recording on a small computer with little rolling speakers, you know what I'm saying, about this size, you know what I'm saying? And it's crazy because when we speak about NIP now, it's kind of impossible to think of him as just a normal guy because he accomplished so much and he just means so much for so many people. And he's sort of like, even in just the last six months or whatever, he's become very much like an icon of what is possible in L.A.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Like you could not only blow up, but you could also continue to be involved with and represent your hood. Yeah, man, that's dope, man. I always knew he was going to be big, man. I always seen something big in him. You know, we from the same age, same era, you know what I'm saying? But I already knew he was more advanced than me, you feel what I'm saying? Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Just as far as with knowledge and music and, you know what I'm saying, things like that. So, I mean, I knew he was special. He was anointed, you know what I'm saying? So I always knew he was going to make it big, you know what I'm saying? It's interesting because he always seemed like kind of such an old soul that is hard for me to even imagine what he was like when he was, A, really young, and B, hadn't really accomplished much in the music game. I mean, I can say he was ahead of his time, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, definitely ahead of his time.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Okay. And so you guys, like, what was the hustle? There's a long time ago, so I feel like I can ask what it was like running around hustling at that time because were you guys just on some, like, low-level dope dealer shit? Or what was the name of the game at the time? Man, it was like, fuck the middle, man. You know what I'm saying? We would be in the streets hustling, selling CDs and all that.
Starting point is 00:03:53 You know what I'm saying? But we was game members at the same time, too, so we weren't. be out there too much, you know what I'm saying? Somebody see us out there like, oh, there go, them right there, you know what I'm saying? Let's pull up on them. So we'll be careful, you know what I'm saying? We'll pay smokers to go to our rival enemy hoods to put up posters and all that stuff. For your music?
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yeah, for our music. So you wanted your enemies to be listening to your shit too. Yeah, hell yeah, of course. That's what I'm saying? Because we weren't on their dissing. You know what I'm saying? Some people get their 15 minutes of fame and don't know how to act. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:22 See, there's a lot of people who blow up in the rap game and then they fucking kind of take that as just a to sort of agitate their enemies. Yeah. And that wasn't the, the mentality at all? No, that wasn't the plan. The plan was for the whole world to love us. You know what I'm saying? And so you guys were thinking big like that, even at that time?
Starting point is 00:04:40 Of course. It seemed clear that this wasn't just. It wasn't no coincidence at all. I mean, we surprised at certain things, but at the end of the day, we're not surprised because we knew, we knew we was going to get here. That's what's up. So what was it like sort of seeing things start to develop? where all of a sudden he gets a name for himself
Starting point is 00:04:58 and you guys are blowing up and like tell me a little bit about that process man i mean we went through a lot man you know what i'm saying i went to jail you know what was that man years ago i had to do i had to do years like it seemed like every time bro would drop a tape i'd get locked up right before the release so i would miss like the fun part i'd be there for the grinding part and then right when the fun is get ready to happen always go to jail wow really yeah that's why he shouted me out on a lot of his music like free jay stone free infant jay stone okay yeah because i was wondering how long the i wasrael bid was because i heard that so many times over the years but it was a bunch of different
Starting point is 00:05:35 bids it was a bunch of different bids i mean all together was about like nine to 10 years wow like four years here three years there two years there a year there you know what i'm saying i got you yeah so damn like what were you getting caught up with around that time just some some simple shit or what were the cases man i couldn't stop carrying guns i had to have that burner me. You know what I'm saying? That's tough. Yeah, man. Yeah, hell yeah. Because you know how it is, man.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Right. You know how LA is, man. Yeah, I mean, it's a tough situation, especially with somebody who already got an existing record where they can't just be running around with a legal pistol. But at the same time, for a lot of dudes, it's like running around without a pistol is a death sentence. Yeah, definitely a death sentence.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah. Was that, you know, because you're seeing Nip get bigger and bigger, more and more successful, But then, meanwhile, is he telling you that you need to calm down? Or were you calm down? When you look back at that, was, were you... I mean, one thing about him, he always understood. Like, even when I was in jail and I'd be on the phone with him,
Starting point is 00:06:38 I'd think he'd be hot at me because, like, we built a lot, and then I'd go to jail, and then he'd be like, damn, bro. Like, you feel me? But he never really looked at it like, I did something wrong. He was like, bro, I understand, you know, shit happens, you feel me, but you're going to be back out here. We're going to get this shit right. Were you guys sort of making more of a planned effort at pushing your career in the past year or so?
Starting point is 00:07:01 It feels like you were sort of ramping up. You're having more videos come out. Yeah. Doing more songs with him in particular. Yeah, like, I went heavy last year. You know what I'm saying? But like, see, people don't know. Like, I was going heavy last year because I had to turn myself in.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And, you know what I'm saying? Go do like a few months and shit. Another gun thing? Nah, just some old shit. You know what I'm saying? that caught up with me, you know. Okay. But, yeah, man, yeah, I was gearing up last year for this year, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:31 So now this year they see the grind that I did last year, all the videos and the mixtapes and, you know what I'm saying, all that. Right. Yeah. So it must have seemed like particularly fucked up that while you're sort of gearing up for your career, then all of a sudden the situation takes place. Do you remember where you were when you found out? Yeah, man, I was on my way up there. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I was already on my way up there. Hey, did it ever cross your mind prior to that that it wasn't a good idea for Nip to be? So, you know, like, was that ever a conversation? Like, a lot of people sort of speculated on that decision of him to just sort of be so casual and, like, you know, feeling comfortable in his own hood. But was that a conversation that internally you guys would sometimes have?
Starting point is 00:08:12 It's like, damn, you know, this is kind of a hot place for us to just be at or did it feel like there was so much respect that it didn't matter? Man, it was just like to so much respect, it didn't even matter. yeah we had talks but like at the end of the day bro like that's our neighborhood you know what I'm saying we're not you know I'm saying you can't take that from us you know typical day when you were posted up there though like the way that the situation went down when you look at it now was things weren't set up the way that they were obviously you're supposed to have somebody around him keeping an eye on them in that sort of situation or is it a situation where the it just
Starting point is 00:08:45 happened so fast that the normal safeguards that were involved didn't really work I just know man if we There would have been a whole different outlook, you know what I'm saying? Period. It would have been a different outcome. Right. And so you just get a call, or did you show up? No, I got the car. I was already on my way up there, man.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I got the car, and, you know, I was 10 minutes late. Right. Yeah. Damn. And so you show up in what? It's already covered in cops. You can't even get near it? No, I mean, I was right there, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:09:19 As soon as I pulled up, he was leaving. Right. Yeah. That's crazy. And so did you know about this situation with the person that he had the incident with? I ain't know shit about this dude, man. I don't even know where this nigga come from. So that's not even like somebody you were necessarily familiar with anything like that. I don't know. Shit. Right. And it's like when they have that conversation about that situation, it's crazy just because it felt like when I heard the description of it that Nip wasn't doing anything crazy. He was just being honest with somebody.
Starting point is 00:09:50 It's like, if you have a certain thing associated with your name, I can't really be out here just taking pictures with you and shit. Yeah. And not in a disrespectful way. It was just more like, you know, you got to sort that shit out before we can be cool. Yeah. Was that like, is that the kind of thing that you've dealt with before too? Or that was a common thing for him to have to deal with because he got everybody trying to be cool with him,
Starting point is 00:10:11 including people that got all kinds of dirt on their name? Man, I don't know, bro. That's L.A. Mm-hmm. It's crazy. Yeah, so hard to explain though for it. Yeah, it just feels like the kind of situation that it would be great to be able to avoid, but it feels like almost kind of inevitable that you're going to,
Starting point is 00:10:29 like, you know, I've had people come up around the street a million times trying to take pictures where I got to say no, you know, where it's just like I don't, I don't fuck with you or I know people that don't fuck with you, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, it's always an awkward conversation, but you could never imagine a sort of transcendent to that level. Yeah, real talk. So, okay, talk about what those, next couple days were like when you're basically trying to have to make sense of the worst
Starting point is 00:10:53 tragedy you can imagine happening i mean shit everything was just on pause bro i was crying for the next shit two weeks right because you have to like restructure everything that you were planning and everything everything right what about what about were you close with his family yeah What was it like dealing with? His family like my family You know what I'm saying? We found me. It was that close
Starting point is 00:11:25 Yeah My brother Was it the kind of thing Where like I don't know Did it bring you closer to the family Just having to be around Or having to like want to Sort of bring them together
Starting point is 00:11:36 I mean he was always close But yeah I mean it just make me want to Pull up on the family a little bit more And be there You know what I'm saying Let them know they got my support Like 100%
Starting point is 00:11:46 Yeah definitely It was such a big big thing in L.A. Is it almost like because you grew up with them and you had been around for so long that you didn't know that it was going to be as big as it was in the sense that it felt like, you know, I heard a lot of different people say that there's been nothing in L.A. that touched the level of impact that that had since Tupac. Yeah, it was a big impact.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I mean, I heard people say it was bigger than Pock, bigger than King. I heard that, yeah. Yeah. I think it's just our area that, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, just in terms of like, and I mean, it's just kind of crazy because you think of him as a person until he's gone. And then, like, I've seen this with a few different artists I work with over the years. And it's kind of strange to see the way that people almost turn them into a God once they're gone, like where people can really finally appreciate what they were bringing to the table throughout their life.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yeah, it's crazy because they don't see it until you. until you're gone and something tragic happened you know what I'm saying I mean but I think like people knew where he was going I think they were starting to acknowledge everything you feel I'm saying
Starting point is 00:12:59 because he already had the love before it happened you know what I'm saying so he was already doing good and doing what he was supposed to do yeah he more than like a vast majority of rappers was really like building a career
Starting point is 00:13:12 like long term he didn't come out and just pop and then sort of fizzle out and keep trying to get his career going and stuff it felt like it was very much like a steady build throughout his career. Yeah, we had to go through the motions. I mean, he could have easily just, you know what I'm saying, just took the easy route, like, all right, I'm sign this deal, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that,
Starting point is 00:13:32 just for a little bit of nothing, piece of fame or something like that. But like, at the end of the day, like, you know what I'm saying, when it's all said and done, what you're leaving to your kids, what you're leaving to your family, like, you know what I'm saying, when it's all sitting and done, when you're done with that label, do you even have any of that money or do you have any attachment to that album? to where that album can, you know what I'm saying, pay for shit in a year. And years alone, you know what I'm saying? Instead of walking away from a label or nothing.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Yeah. And they own everything, including your album. Exactly. You know. Do you ever sign? No, I'm negotiating. Okay. Negotiating.
Starting point is 00:14:09 So you've been thinking about it. Was that something that he felt strongly about? Because he waited a long time to really do the label thing. I mean, of course. And that's the same steps, you know what I'm saying? We was going through, too. from I'm saying. It was just easier for us now than it was before
Starting point is 00:14:23 because we really had to go through the lumps and bruises, you know what I'm saying? But like, now we just squabbled already, you know what I'm saying? So, like, we didn't do it that we're here. Did you, like, what was his perspective on opening businesses in his hood? That's like something that people have all, have, now there's a lot of controversy about it where people are looking at it and saying, damn, like, you know, everybody respects the fact that he did it, but people also kind of look at it now
Starting point is 00:14:48 and they're like, it's too dangerous to just have a store in an area with a lot of people who have nothing. Like, what was his mentality on that? What were the conversations like that you guys had about that? I mean, we always wanted to get up out the hood, but at the same time, we wanted to start there first. Like, even with bro, like, he wanted to start where he was loved at and, you know what I'm saying, his roots first before he, like, start somewhere else where he don't, you know what I'm saying? Can't go to Hollywood. Feel me? It would feel strange, you know?
Starting point is 00:15:17 It's like, that's not where your people. are at yeah yeah like some of like but not you know I'm saying this my community right here this my hood and I want to be able to say I can own something in my neighborhood you found I'm saying mm-hmm because we bang the hood so much but it's like what I mean what do we own over there we're on shit over there you know what I'm saying so I didn't want to feel good about saying I'm from sloshing you know yeah because it's like there are these these cities these cultures these communities like why do they have to largely be associated with negativity and
Starting point is 00:15:46 violence when you could those same exact cities could be places where the same people who come from gangs who come on the streets are now doing things that are 100% positive for the community. That's everywhere you go. It's pretty much everywhere you go. It's negativity and good everywhere. You know what I'm saying? It's just energy.
Starting point is 00:16:04 It's just really pretty much how you program around it or the individual. You know what I'm saying? You got people that want to get money. You know what I'm saying? You got people that don't even care about money. They just want a reputation in the streets. You know what I'm saying? So then you got people that want to get money with the people that they fonking with you know what I'm saying so and that'd be the older people and people that got experiences and niggas I went to jail and did time with their enemies and being their cells with their enemies.
Starting point is 00:16:31 You know what I'm saying? They see a different outlook and they want to get out and build you know what I'm saying in their own hood and their own community or even with people that they actually did time with you feel me? Compare your mentality on gang bang and when you were a kid versus how you think of you. about it now? Like were you, did you think that the hot head attitude was it when you were younger and then you sort of calm down or did you always have a mature perspective on it? When you're younger, you ain't even thinking about the long run. You know what I'm saying? You just like I'm, I'm living for the moment. Whatever happens right now happens. You know what I'm saying? Like I wasn't thinking years ahead. Like I didn't even think I'd get to this point. I didn't even think I'll make it this
Starting point is 00:17:14 I didn't even think I'd make it past 25 like I think I'd be sitting right here with Adam 22 Appreciate it you know what I'm saying thinking back then you know I'm saying as as a youngster you You know so much shit happened your friends dying your friends going to jail and Things like that you didn't think you would be here you saw a lot of that early age I'm sure early age yeah You know what I'm saying I mean I saw a lot of that in my family you know what I'm saying I lost my mom's Straight out the dough I was like two three years old you feel what I'm saying like so you were raised by your father by your father or other family members? Yeah, my auntie raised me and my grandparents.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah. So was there a point where they had to explain that to you? Yeah, later on down the line. Yeah. You remember that being, that must be hard to understand. It's one thing to have your father not around, but your mother is even more intense, right? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I mean, I thought my auntie was my mom for a minute, you feel me? And then I figured it out. Like, why she keep calling me her nephew? Right. Oh, I am her nephew. All right, okay. Right. Somebody finally told me, you feel me? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I just put all that shit of my music, you feel me? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Was it hard to go back to making music once you didn't have, like, one of the main people that was encouraging you all along? Was that hard for you to get into that mentality after going through all the sadness and everything? I don't know. It just made me make more songs, like, passionate songs, like, songs from the heart, you know what I'm saying? That I really been through, you know, instead of just getting on the mom. might just saying anything. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Like, you know, you go and make songs all the time, but then all of a sudden you have something that's more important than anything you probably ever rapped about. Yeah. And you got to figure out how to get it out in the right way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in the right way. And the shit got to rhyme, too.
Starting point is 00:18:58 You know what I'm saying? So, and they got to tell the authentic story. Right. Yeah. Yeah, because you went real viral with the song about it. Yeah. What was, you know, that's kind of like a big decision to make,
Starting point is 00:19:10 to be like, the first piece of content that you're going to put out where you talk about one of the most important and traumatic experiences you had in your entire life what was it about that song that stood out to you was it the first song you made when you went in the booth after that i mean i i said i feel like i i really wish i had to make that song you feel me and it's a great song but i just wish i ain't i ain't i didn't have to make that motherfucker man but uh uh it was like released therapy. You know what I'm saying? I had to get it off my chest. I had to say something for me. And if I was to get on the mic and rap, I, you know, I had to say what's really on my mind.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I can't just like say anything else. You know what I'm saying? I got to talk about what's going on right now. What's really on my mind? What's really fucking with me? What's really, you know what I'm saying? And as men, there's a big incentive for us to sort of not talk about our feelings. Yeah. That's sort of like. I mean, I think that's where I make my mind. I think that's where I make best music at you know what I'm saying we don't get that a lot in rap we just hear about what motherfuckers got mm-hmm but like what you think through like you know what I'm saying yeah yeah was it crazy to see the city sort of come together when you're looking at all the memorials and the marches and everything the Staples Center event was that surprising because
Starting point is 00:20:33 you know LA is so divided so many different yeah it's gangs on every corner that's why it's so divided so many people people beefing with people is just like it's crazy But to see all that come together and everybody come together in the city red, blue, purple, orange, you know what I'm saying? Black, brown, everything. I'm like, damn, this shit crazy. You know what I'm saying? And it happened and it happened, you know, after, you know, that, you know, the situation with bro. So it's just like, damn, it took that.
Starting point is 00:21:09 It could have took something else or it didn't take nothing else but that. You feel what I'm saying? So it's just like, damn, that shit big. I never thought I said. He never thought he'd see it. Do you still feel the impacts of that in the sense that I'm sure there's really nothing that's going to stop a lot of different hoods from beeping with each other? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:29 But do you feel like there's been an overall improvement in terms of people's willingness to settle problems with violence since then, just a lot of, that some people might be a little bit more mindful about that? I've been seeing it, man. I ain't, I ain't been seeing like, I haven't been seeing the bullshit personally, you know what I'm saying? Like certain neighborhoods, I used to, you know what I'm saying, whack our neighborhoods. I was like, I slide through their hood. I don't, I don't see the hood whacked out no more like that, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:21:57 Like, they might got little letters and all that shit whacked out, but like the actual neighborhood, like, I ain't, I ain't been seeing that since then, you feel me, like. Really? Yeah. That's good. I feel like in terms of how people view, you too, do you feel like it's a lot of, responsibility in your shoulders because people are looking at you as like almost like nipsy's primary representative yeah because i was one of the ones that he you know what i'm saying put out there
Starting point is 00:22:22 you know i'm saying let the world know that you know it's my day one it's my bro right here that's my nigga that i've been grinding with since day one out the trunk with it you know what i'm saying yeah and uh yeah so i just feel like yeah i got to step up to the plate yeah because i mean everybody I got a million friends. I'm sure he had a million friends. But as a rapper, you've got to be very selective with who you put on because, you know, it's a big decision. If you put somebody on who doesn't deserve it, then they're going to be looking stupid. And if you, the way he co-signed you was like, it's just so obvious that it was a very real organic thing. Yeah, very organic. Like, we even even have to talk about shit. He did a lot of shit from the heart. Did you get to see a good amount
Starting point is 00:23:04 of the world and shit? Did you travel with him on tour and stuff like that? I went on a Crenshaw tour with him. Uh-huh. Went on a victory lap tour with him. Right. All in the U.S.? Not all in the U.S. I can't lead a country. That's what I figured, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:17 But was that dope? You take in a lot of things during that experience that you hadn't taken in before? Yeah, man, just seeing different people and different things and, you know what I'm saying? But one thing I did know that other states got in common with us, like it's a ghetto everywhere.
Starting point is 00:23:33 You know what I'm saying? It's a ghetto everywhere. It's a hood everywhere. And it's people that's just like us everywhere. I'm saying. Yeah. And he seems like the kind of guy that would be touching, tapping in with people in every environment.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Yeah, he tapping on real niggas everywhere in every city. So, yeah, I mean, it's kind of crazy because L.A. feels like it's having a revitalization period right now where there's a lot of different talent coming out. Does that make it extra painful to look at Nipsey having to sort of miss out on L.A. having such an exciting year even? Yeah, man, because this shit crazy, man. The West is cracking right now.
Starting point is 00:24:15 LA is where it's at. Compton, everywhere else, you know what I'm saying? Like, we got it right now. You know what I'm saying? We've been had it, but I'm saying, like, we got it, got it. You know what I'm saying? So I just encourage every West Coast artist, everybody from the city to just get together, man, and mash.
Starting point is 00:24:33 It's time to match, man. For real. For real, for real. Definitely. Um, just as a total aside, I just remembered. What happened with this situation where there was a video of you getting into an altercation with some people? Yeah. And it was at a show? Yeah, it was out of show.
Starting point is 00:24:49 And I think somebody on my social media team felt the need to put it on Instagram and then some people weren't so happy about that. Yeah, it was. What happened? What can you say about that? I mean, you know how it is, man, you feel me? Like, like where I'm from, like, other than me being J. Stone, the rapper, like, I am like, like, J. Stone. from 60s too you feel me so like when I'm out there
Starting point is 00:25:09 and I see like you know what I'm saying people see me you know what I'm saying they might want to feel the need to get at me because I'm a trophy feel me where I'm at and it's kind of crazy because backstage at these rap shows is a lot of times the only time where certain people
Starting point is 00:25:25 will actually get into a fight or fist fight because realistically on the street it's not going to happen when you're backstage at some rap shows where there's fucking multiple metal detectors to get in you kind of get a different environment a different type of interaction between people. Yeah. Somebody who might not want to pull up with you,
Starting point is 00:25:41 pull up on you, might do it in that situation where they wouldn't on the street, right? Yeah. I mean, you know, they ran up on me. They got what they wanted. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:25:50 Uh-huh. It was more of them than us. Right. But you handled that, right? Yeah, they was running. Yeah. Yeah. That was impressive.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Yeah. I don't even know who the other people were, to be totally honest, but just when I saw the video and just, like, was reading all the comments about it and shit, I was just like, I can't believe that.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yeah. I mean, I'm used to it, you feel me? It was kind of fun and dangerous. Kind of fun? Yeah, and dangerous. So are you someone who you kind of can't help it, that you still kind of love the bullshit? I did at one point, bro. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:26:24 Like, I mean, sometimes you get bored. You want to turn up and just, you know, be ignorant sometimes. You feel me? But, like, at some point, you got to be like, you know what? Then you got to cut the bullshit out, man. You feel me? because all it is is just going to shorten your lifespan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I don't know. It's just crazy. But there's certain rappers that I've talked to over the years. Grito stands out as an example. Mazi stands out as an example. They're my niggas, man. Grito and Mazzi shout out to Grito. Free Grito, man.
Starting point is 00:26:53 But they stand out to me as people who, for better or for worse, they just kind of love the street shit so much. And that's why they can talk about it so well. Yeah. But might also sometimes be the reason why, they might still have issues with the law and shit. Yeah. I mean, some shit is just going to always be in you.
Starting point is 00:27:12 You know what I'm saying? Even Nip. Nip had millions, you feel me? And you couldn't take down from him. He was still who he was. You feel me? He didn't change. He was still that same nigga we knew from the block.
Starting point is 00:27:24 You feel me? I mean, it takes a lot of confidence to, like, just not even give a fuck. Like, go and be in the hood in front of your store. Like, whatever. Like, when you look back at that, though, do you look at it as a silly decision that you really wish that he had thought twice about,
Starting point is 00:27:40 or is it the kind of thing where that's just how it is? Like, you're just not going to move in a different way because you are who you are. Yeah, man. I mean, I wish he didn't go up there. I wish you would have called somebody. I wish you would have called us, you feel me? Called me, you feel me, let me know he was going to be up there.
Starting point is 00:27:57 It's sad too because, like, when we lost X last year, same shit. Really, at the end of the day, is him moving around, acting like he ain't famous. Yeah. And I mean, it's the undoing of a lot of rappers. Yeah. I mean, we in our own skin.
Starting point is 00:28:14 You know what I'm saying? Sometimes we don't really see how big we are sometimes. We just move around, like, how we used to move around, you feel me? Like, you know? But we ain't knowing that. There'd be consequences to that shit, too, though. You feel me? You got to know who you are at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Like, you've got to know how big you are moving around the city, too. You feel what I'm saying? Because everybody ain't with the rap shit, bro. Everybody ain't trying to accomplish goals. They goals are trying to come up on the next lick, you feel me? So. Or to just take somebody who's doing something down to peg because they ain't doing shit. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:46 You feel me? So that's how that shit goes sometimes. Definitely. There's been a lot said about the store, the marathon store, how, you know, millions and millions and millions of dollars in the past couple months, how it's getting shut down because the orders were backed up so bad. Do you know what's going on that? Are you involved in, like, sort of the operations?
Starting point is 00:29:06 No, man, we're not shut down. We're still running, you feel me? You get orders online and everything. You know, it was just so many orders coming in, you know, things just got backed up a little bit. But, you know, all of them orders are getting taken care of, you know, where it'll take a little minute. But it's just so many, bro, like, you know, it's just going to take a while. Yeah, that's crazy. Um, has, as bad as the situation was, has there been connections that happened for you in a way that kind of might be. That's crazy. Um, has, as bad as the situation was, has there been connections that happened for you in a way that kind of might, not have happened otherwise i seen you just had a song game come out a couple months ago was that something that happened because you guys were both dealing with that loss and everything um nah me and game was already like you know i'm saying 100 with each other we met each other a couple times hung out a couple times you feel me but like um yeah after it happened it was just like man we got to stand up and get get on this marathon man and do some music everybody got to do music together, man, everybody from the land. Everybody from the West, man, we got to do music, you feel me. So that was just me reaching out, like, pressing the line, like, let's get it
Starting point is 00:30:08 going. Yeah, definitely. Was, just in terms of viewing the aftermath, were there people that you saw who were maybe showing what you might consider fake love, people who didn't care in the meantime. I'm going to resist the urge to name any certain names, but I saw some rappers getting shit for just not mentioning it, who may be from LA and people maybe thought that they should have mentioned it. Yeah. Do you see anything like that? I mean, it's kind of, it's like, it's hard not to acknowledge it.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I don't care who you are, what gang you from. Like, it's hard to not acknowledge it. You feel what I'm saying? Like, even schoolboy Q, like, you know what I'm saying? He's from the Fed side. You feel me? That's Hovers. And we, like, kind of rival, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:53 But like, when the shit happened, he didn't even put out no music. I guess somebody must have leaked his music. And he's like, man, I didn't. put that shit out like I ain't putting out no music this week you feel me and I respected that and he he was someone where people tried to say oh you didn't say anything about Nip and then he said you know this is real life shit like I'm I feel how I feel about it I don't necessarily need to take all of my feelings to Instagram no you don't you don't but like like I said I felt it when he was like I ain't putting out no music this week this a this a bad time to be putting out music
Starting point is 00:31:24 and he didn't say nothing about the situation or nothing but I felt it I felt that's why he wasn't putting out no music that week because of the situation that happened. It was a big impact and it just like it just fucked everybody up, bro. It just made everybody stop doing what they was doing. Yeah. And really like take a moment and, you know what I'm saying? Remember his legacy, man, what he was really out here doing, you know? Does it all just feel a lot more important at this point in terms of the mission?
Starting point is 00:31:54 I'd be on to say fuck this shit, bro. Really? You know? it makes you want to just do some wild shit and just not give a fuck and just like yeah just not even give a fuck bro go get a hundred years you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:32:06 that's how a nigga be feeling sometimes yeah yeah there's a fluctuate between that and being motivated and wanting to take over the world and do what y'all were working on yeah man it's like man we don't pause right now you feel me but I know we gotta go we gotta keep going
Starting point is 00:32:22 the marathon continues you you feel me like I remember a lot of shit that he taught a nigga you feel me so it's like i just got to take that and keep on going the name the marathon continues seems weirdly prophetic because that was you know that that that that very much is like a good slogan for what needs to continue to happen now yeah but it just fucked up because that ain't how it was supposed to end bro me that ain't how the marathon was supposed to end so yeah definitely what is it was it hard for you to see and again i'm just not even going to name names we can talk in generalities but certain rappers who ain't even from LA who maybe had
Starting point is 00:33:03 disrespectful things to say saying things about his girl anything like that is that hard for you to be sitting at home and seeing on Instagram it just makes me want to fuck do it up you feel me when I seen you know anybody that got anything disrespectful to say you feel me that's just how I feel that's like the most bare minimum amount of decent that you could ask for it, to ask somebody to not have something negative or something weird to say in a moment like that. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Mm. But for somebody like you, it's like, you're not going to hop on Instagram and say, fuck you. Yeah, because, I mean, what is it going to do? You feel me? Like, that's clown shit at the end of the day. Like, but I'm going to be let it, I'm going to let it be known. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:33:54 Like, nigga, I ain't feeling that when I see you. You know what I'm saying? Real niggis is going to holler at you. I'm going to holl at you. I'm going to holl at you. I mean, there's a lot of blowback. in L.A. Certain radio stations stopped playing certain songs from certain artists who maybe were disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Yeah, yeah, I heard that. Yeah. I mean, that was crazy. Yeah. Do you have any other artists that you've been working with, anybody that you're trying to push aside from yourself? I mean, you know, just to camp,
Starting point is 00:34:21 all money in, you know what I'm saying? Me, Pac-Man, Cobby, Cousie, Killer Twine. You know what I'm saying? Boss Hall, B-H, you know? Right. Yeah, that's who I'm working with. And I got this album coming out. So, you know, I got a lot of people that I got on this album.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Oh, really? Anybody you can specify? Yeah, I got a, I got nip on it, Pac-Man on it. Okay. I got Snoop on it. Waleigh, YG. Damn. Jeremiah.
Starting point is 00:34:47 YG has shown so much love to Nip in a way that was really impressive. Has that been, is that encouraging? Is that exciting? Because of the fact that, you know. I mean, that's my niggie jizzle, man. Man, he just saw him 100% genuine love. Like, he'd know, you know what I'm saying? Like, him and nip, they was like this, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:35:08 So it was like, that shit ain't going nowhere. That's what thing is forever. When I see when people pass in the music industry, and sometimes it feels like, oh, everybody's just playing their songs at their shows and trying to show love and it's kind of fake or whatever. But, like, the especially comes a time period when it's maybe a year or two years later, when maybe it's not necessarily the cool thing to just be talking about somebody you pass. But at times like that, that becomes really important because, I mean, YG or you
Starting point is 00:35:36 will be reping Nipsey for the rest of their careers. And it's like sometimes these fans, they might be new fans, it might be the first rap show. They might not really know about Nipsey. It's like important to keep pushing that because at the end of the day, it's like, you know, there's so much information coming out at all times that for certain people, it could be easy for them to forget about it. It's like important to fight to keep somebody's name alive at that point. Yeah, man. So we just going to squabble until it's over. it. We're going to be squabbing for the rest of our lives, man, try to keep that shit going. Yeah. Keep his legacy up there, man. Keep it going. Because, uh, you know, we got our own
Starting point is 00:36:09 lives. We got our own movements going, but at the end of the day, like, we're not going to let that marathon die, period. And we're not going to let bro name, you know what I'm saying, go away. That's real. We're going to be remembered forever. You know what I'm saying? We're going to make sure that. For sure. Tell me about this hat that you brought me, by the way. Thank you very much for that. Yeah, man. It's my 25-8. No Brakes hat. You know what I'm saying? It's my brand. you know what I'm saying 258 on the front no breaks on the back
Starting point is 00:36:34 you know what's what I'm you know like 24 7 it's 258 man it's just like overtime non-stop no sleep no breaks right you know what I'm saying so that's the movement is 258
Starting point is 00:36:48 AMB all money all money and play ball all that yeah that's what's up so the album you got any potential idea when it might be coming out um yeah no
Starting point is 00:37:00 November, November 6th. November 6th. Yeah. That's what's up. Yeah. Damn. Anything else you have in the works or just focused on the album? Yeah, the album right now.
Starting point is 00:37:12 The album right now, you know. We was working on an All Money Inn album. All of us, me, Nip, Pac-Man, because he's the whole squad. Could you see it so happening at this point or how's the energy around that show? I see it happening. Just not at the moment, but I see it happening, though, you know. It's a lot of things we got to get right, get together, you know what, get it right? For sure.
Starting point is 00:37:36 If you had to sort of, in a general sense, like, what would you say is the message that was more important than anything else that Nip had for the world that you think that he would want to share with people even doing something like this? It's to keep going, bro, and don't quit. Like, people will tell you, nah, I don't do this. Don't put this out yet. You should put this out next year. or you should change the beat or make it sound like this, make it sound like that. But all that shit going to do is just stop your creativity or stop your process
Starting point is 00:38:08 or stop you from going further because now you're listening to all these different opinions so now it stagnates you from moving forward. You feel what I'm saying? So just don't even listen to a lot of people, man. If you feel it in your heart to do it, just go. Don't let nobody tell you no. Don't let nothing stop you and never quit.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Because how we got here, we didn't quit. We just kept going, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, y'all are exceptions to the odds, you know? Yeah, we ain't had no manuscript to this shit, you feel me? With no rules to this shit, it was just like, go harder, go home, don't quit, keep going, like, don't stop. You know what I'm saying? That's what people need to know, especially people that are coming from a situation where even making anything out of yourself feels almost impossible. Yeah, real talk.
Starting point is 00:38:51 That's real. All right, man, I appreciate you coming in. This is your first, like, real long interview, huh? Real live, long video interview. Yeah, because I don't really do interviews like that, you feel me. But, like, you know, people that I fuck with, yeah, I pull up. I appreciate that. I'm a lot of them, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:39:07 So, yeah. No, man, it's an honor for you to share your story with me and the audience. Yeah, appreciate it, man, for real. Appreciate you. All right, man. Jaystone, no jumper. All right, money in. YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes, like comment and subscribe.
Starting point is 00:39:23 All right, put you, Nipsey, Hustle. Yeah, man. Rest and peace, Nip. Love you, bro. Peace.

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