No Jumper - NJ Show Ep. 376: Charlie Kirk Shot & Killed, Killer Still At Large

Episode Date: September 11, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Please take me home. Hey, Josh, do I just put three chairs on this side? Yeah. Are we live? We live. You feel me? Hey, what's happening? You feel like me?
Starting point is 00:00:15 I don't know what's going on. Clearly, there's forces that don't want us to speak. Agents of chaos trying to subvert the message, the message of the truth. prosperity of trillness or maybe maybe Adam is trying to sabotage the Thursday
Starting point is 00:00:37 show which narrative do y'all think is which narrative do you all think is one or the other either it's agents of chaos or it's Adam himself but either way we've had to do something we've never done in the history
Starting point is 00:00:52 of no jumper we're switching rooms mid-casts amidsts a mid-podcast room switch. Professionalism at his finest, you feel, I mean? First time ever. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:01:05 In history. They had to, we had to, we had to do something a little bit different, you feel me, like it's going to be cozy. When you left out the room, creep was telling us how if someone thinks Trump is helping the black community by pardoning these different rappers like Hodak Black, YB, That's just a tactic for Trump to try to confuse people. I want to go into that a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:01:32 How is shandering? Well, I'm, I don't, I don't, maybe I misspoke. I don't necessarily believe that it's a tactic to try to confuse people. It's our people who, like, they look at it like, oh, Trump, fuck with us because he parted a rapper. A rapper, like, you didn't, again, why you ain't part in our community leaders? Like, you ain't part in our, I don't. No, he didn't free. He didn't free Moumi.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Would Trump have freed Mumia back in the day? No. Definitely not. You feel me? If, okay, if we go, yeah, back in the day of Trump was president, you think if a Martin Luther King or a Malcolm X would have went to jail, he would have pardoned them. Hell no, bro. This man pardoned a rapper.
Starting point is 00:02:17 But you can't take what the- Who's out here contributing. Oh, my bad, not to keep going. Who out here obviously contributing to, like, you would say the down-few. All of the Yands. You feel me? The fuck shit. So I was like, yeah, throw them back out there.
Starting point is 00:02:30 He's leading the masses. They leading the masses of people who out here causing destruction and doing the bullshit. But at the same time, like I said, he did pardoned old boy who found it death row. Yeah, I'm pretty much an activist. Harrio. He also got buddy, uh, A, A,ap Rocky. And then, oh, yeah. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:02:47 He's pardoned Harry O and referring to Harry O as an activist. I mean, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, are you out of your fucking, like, come on. He just make it better. He also pardoned Larry Hoover. I mean, that's a little bit more ambiguous. And then the only reason why Larry Hoover ain't out of jail because he had not parted him. He did pardon him, but he had another case.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Larry Hoover turned into what he turned into. Larry Hoover went to jail for the crimes that he went to jail for. You feel what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, that wasn't, he didn't go to jail pushing positivity, young. No, this is the problem with black people. We're constantly moving the goalpost, bro. If the nigg, if he would have did nothing, oh, man, Trump could have pardoned Larry Hoover. that Biden, wait, Biden didn't do it, but black people voted for Biden at 89%.
Starting point is 00:03:31 So what I'm saying is we will criticize somebody who does something for us, but then we will show absolute love and support for somebody who does nothing for us. Trump, you might, young boy might be a degenerate, right? But this is the thing. He's creating a lot of jobs. Facts. He creates an ecosystem where people could profit off of it. You profit off of it just the other day.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Those guys working security, crypto, center staff gets to make money, go to work and all this stuff. If you look at Kodak, same type of thing. Kodak does a lot for the community and everything like that. So what I'm saying is, it's like with black folks, you damned if you do, damned if you don't. Look, man, he's trying. And everyone he pardoned, do you think Trump wakes up like, oh, my God, there's a young boy?
Starting point is 00:04:16 Someone black went to Trump and was like, we need you to help this person. And Trump part of him. And Steve Harvey, wait, and Steve Harvey. Steve Harvey said it before black people turned on him in the first term, Trump's first term. He said, I went in, I asked Trump to help me with this hoodie award stuff where he teach black men stuff around the country. He said, Trump said unequivocally, yes, I will help you. You know what black folks did? Turned on Steve Harvey so much that he had to back out and he had to delete his social media.
Starting point is 00:04:47 His family had to delete his social media. Black folks don't want people who help them. Black people want to play the victim eternally. Never victim. And we got to think about it too. Kamala Harris was the president at the time. She didn't do nothing for us. Vice president.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I mean, they didn't want to say she was the first. I would have the same response to Kamala Harris pardoning a rapper as I got for Trump. I would have been allowed. But she didn't do it. This is a rapper gang. Like, what are we supposed to go parade for that?
Starting point is 00:05:17 Parade Trump. Go pat Trump on the back for pardoning a rapper. I mean, who else would have? What does that mean to the community? But that rapper's like, he means a lot to his community. You don't get what he's saying. He's saying like there's prominent civil activists and people in the black community that would. Who, name one?
Starting point is 00:05:35 Yeah. How about I say name one? But I'm not in jail. As far as like the current era, like who's currently incarcerated, what I would say is all the people wrongly incarcerated for cannabis crimes, things like that. You feel me? But Trump is already doing that. But he's not, though, to the extent that he could be. What is the first step act?
Starting point is 00:05:52 The first step back is a step towards that. No, that's a federal. act that releases people who've been incarcerated for minor offenses. Men, but these aren't minor offenses. Some of them people up out of there who got wrongfully convicted
Starting point is 00:06:07 but shit that they did not do instead of going to go pardon somebody who's famous that you think if you pardon them. That's pandering at his finest. Hold on his finest. He real quick, let's go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. more than like 50 people. So a lot of
Starting point is 00:06:22 people on them list, we didn't really like see them. We don't know their names. It's not like broadcasts, so we don't know. But it was a lot of people that he's hearted him. Like loads of them. Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. And then he released like a loads of people who went to jail for wheat, which Kamala Harris put them in jail for. Yeah, she sucks
Starting point is 00:06:38 too, though. Bro. But here's he got the lady out who was in jail for like 10 years for praying in front of an abortion clinic. Trump got her out. She just, no one knows her name. No one cares about her. Rappers are the only people black people care about. That's why we feel like he's only
Starting point is 00:06:54 releasing rappers, but let me tell you something. It's not on Trump. Once you know somebody going to do something for you, like say you got a girl and she cooked for you every fucking night, right? And it's bomb too. You're going to have to say, baby, can you make me some chillings? Baby, can you make me some greens?
Starting point is 00:07:12 Maybe can you make me some oxtails? We're still doing that guys? Look, she's going to tell you. Look, the bitch going to cook no matter what. But it's on you to tell her what to cook. The same thing with us. You want these different activists that no one can name to be freed? then we need to go present these people to Trump. Hey, can you help us get this person?
Starting point is 00:07:28 We're bringing rappers to Trump feet because that's who we worship. Okay, now, that's a great point. Free R. Kelly, God damn it. Free R. Kelly, for sure. I agree, bro. I think he's done, like, did his time already. Free R. Kelly, bro.
Starting point is 00:07:41 You're out of your fucking skull. You're not out of your skull. You were both out of your skull. You never made love to R. Kelly. Yes, I have. Yes, I have to. So you tell me right now, for R. Kelly song, come on. You're not going to jiggie with it.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I've been saying I'm going to smoke to it. I've been saying, yeah, I'm hitting the scotte and move your body like to snake by. You done in a couple of plug talks with our Kelly in the background. Of course. As Ben said, he's an incredible artist Robert Kelly. However, that doesn't change the fact he should be admonished for doing horrible things to baby girl, aka. What about Elvis? But what about Elvis?
Starting point is 00:08:12 What about Elvis? What about the dude from Aerosmith? All those guys are janky. What about Jerry Lee Lewis? What about Jerry Lee Lewis? He's even worse. What about Carmelon? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Okay. I'm 13. This is not mutually exclusive to race or culture. This is all about talent. That's janky across the board. But I want to ask you this, Brandon, how are you able to now all of a sudden weaponize the same people you admonish? You be on these rappers' helmets saying they're the scourge of society. They're influencing violence.
Starting point is 00:08:42 But now it's a positive thing that Donald Trump is releasing them? Please tell me how. Listen, listen, that might work on an average black person. I might have been born at night. I might be black as night, but I was not born last night. What I'm, I'm not, I'm not admonishing or condoning or celebrating that, right? Because if it was up to me, leave all day ass locked up. But what I'm saying is Trump creates an opportunity for black people to have a direct connection to the president and lay at his feet the things that we think are important.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Now, what we choose to lay at his feet, that's on us. if we say I'm going to That's a black person presenting that Because those are the people who care about these people Nobody give a damn about these damn rappers But you think somebody just in the OWA office Say hey release YB or hey release Kodak You know what though Brandon
Starting point is 00:09:34 You know Kim is taking black dick I do finally Hey man you need And Kim K doing our thing Free him Yeah yeah She became a lawyer She became a lawyer
Starting point is 00:09:44 Is she a lawyer already Is she already get her Her daddy was You hear Bratim Brad Even the justice to justify the bike you're not wrong is she an official lawyer now did she pass her bar
Starting point is 00:09:59 I think she did only the mini bar she passed a mini bar with a mini skirt on yeah speaking of a mini bar I'll be right back you guys like that bring me one too whatever you got oh okay a mini bar all right so what's going on brandy want to take it to the subject
Starting point is 00:10:12 so you know you are first in their line brother why didn't brandon and war chief fight on Saturday yeah war chief basically went he went crazy, bro. I think Tay could answer that better because we were in contact with him. Trey, Tay was in direct contact with bro,
Starting point is 00:10:28 and we were all trying to encourage him to actually show up. I even hit him up, like, bro, show up, we get it in, give the fans what they want, and bro, who is this?
Starting point is 00:10:38 Huh? Who is this? I said the same thing when it was first, but there's some dude, I guess who's doing MMA. He's a fell point type fighter. Oh, that video where you showed up and didn't fight?
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yeah, we, oh, no, we rescheduled it. Why are you trying to say it like that? Like what? No, no. When you didn't mean it. I didn't mean it like that.
Starting point is 00:10:56 But no, because I watched that little clip. I agree with bro, 100% like, bro, I'll do this shit for as a profession, gang. You think I'm going to show up
Starting point is 00:11:04 and fight you in a garage on a fucking mat? Now, he's 100% right. Right. So this is... At first, bro, went to fight on the conquer.
Starting point is 00:11:10 He only threw the... The maskdown for the camera. For the camera. But in hindsight, so I think, what was this, like, Saturday or something? Friday or Thursday.
Starting point is 00:11:19 It was last Saturday. We were supposed to fight last Saturday at 11 a end. So we talked on Friday or Thursday. I think it was Thursday. Thursday. So I called him and I'm like, yo, bro, this is what it is. Y, y'all going to do a juditsu first and then he'll let you get hand-in-hand combat, whatever. He's 100% with him.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Like, first and foremost, he was rambling on some drunk shit. Yeah, he crazy. But then he started talking like, yeah, I'm with it. Bro, I get a call back like 10 minutes later. I'm not showing up. It's like, what do you mean? And he's just like, he'll see me on the streets. It's up.
Starting point is 00:11:47 It's like, bro, it's a professional fighter. Wait, hold on. So this is before that you showed up. No, this is after. This is after. So now he had the opportunity to pull up. Same way he had the opportunity but pulled up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:59 You didn't even come pull up. And the difference is it was a professional gym. So they was going to do it at his gym. And I think his gym got exed out. So then we were going to do it at a jackrabbit gym, which is over there by probably. No, no, no, no, no. We were going to do it at, I'm not going to say their name because I don't blast him.
Starting point is 00:12:13 It was an MMA gym in Southgate, which is right by Whittier, by where he lived. I got it clear with my. boy who owns the gym. I actually paid him and he said, just make sure this dude's going to show up. Because he was like, this dude ain't showing up to fight you. He couldn't believe it. So we arranged it for 11 a.m.
Starting point is 00:12:32 On Saturday in Southgate, I sent you the location on Thursday. Everybody. The day we finished on this show where bro agreed to fight. I sent Adam the location. I sent Lush the low. I sent him to low. Immediately. So bro had no excuse like, oh, they
Starting point is 00:12:47 dropped it late. Bro literally just I guess got scared, went crazy, hit me up, talking about, oh, yeah, I trolled you. Look at all the views I got off of you and all this stuff. That made me mad when he did that too, but it seemed like he was just trolling to be somebody important to talk about. And what I'm saying is, niggins is mad at me because I saw the play from the jump when I pulled up to the grots. I said, this dude is trying to just get attention. So everyone on the internet said, you should have fought, you should have fought. You should have fought. Y'all don't know what could have possibly happen.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Because let's be real, a troll will do anything to get attention. And when I said, not only did he lie about the gym, now we at bro house. You don't know what a nigga going to do at his house, right? He definitely had the scottet warrior sitting on the couch. Bro could have shot me. They were not going to pack Brandon out. Like I said, the Varaway was not going to let that happen. I didn't think they were in my barrowing.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And I talked to the homies. I don't think Dario would have let you get back. Bro, it was like 50 Mexicans in an apartment building next door. Bro said I just came from a birthday party next door. Them all my homies and stuff. Listen, bro, we do. It's a whole hood of Mexicans. We don't know them.
Starting point is 00:13:52 We don't know what they got. They might shank, whatever. So the fact y'all keeps saying, they wouldn't have let, bro, we're only men, bro. Three men ain't beaten 50,
Starting point is 00:14:01 or who knows how many over there, let alone if they got bangers, you know, dives and whatever else. Bro, say bangers. So I just said, look, that's the old school jail term.
Starting point is 00:14:09 As the alpha male in the, as the alpha male in the situation, an alpha male don't do things based of what other people think he should do. I feel that. I said this, because look, let's be real. I've been to the county, my nigga, my nigga. The big niggas is the one taking all the hits, bro, period.
Starting point is 00:14:23 So the little niggas can reach over the top of you and try to. Thanks. Juga, nigger. So I know, I'm going to take the beating. I'm going to take the beating. First of all, once I've seen that it was in, once I've seen that the studio or whatever it was a garage. It was in Montabello. It was in Wittier.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I'm going to say Whittier. I'm going to put it up. Still. I mean, that means you took the 605 york. That means you took the 605 yours. That means you took the 605 North all the way there. That's like a 40-minute drive. Don't be surprised.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Don't be surprised because I thought it was a professional gym. If a niggas say I got a professional gym and I'm trying to get busy with you, why not? I am a fire. I like fighting. Bro, clearly say he liked fighting, but when we got there, it was a tricky situation and I just made a OG call like we ain't doing it. So anybody who like if I'm going to say this. OG Booty Brandi. This is my genuine, like, opinion.
Starting point is 00:15:17 The biggest mistake that Brandon made the whole time was even going there without having him FaceTime first showing you the motherfucking facility showing him that he's serious. I'm here. He was in contact with viral though. He was making contact with viral. But to be devil's advocate.
Starting point is 00:15:35 That's the biggest mistake. I was that not the biggest mistake. No, because if someone says I am a professional fighter who trains other professional fighters in the in the realm that we operate in, bro, your word means something. Like when I said, I'm going to get a professional gym and we're going to meet there and stuff,
Starting point is 00:15:51 and then the first gym fell through. I didn't just say, what fights off? First gym fell through. I got another gym because I put my word on that, that I was going to deliver that. So when he catfish you, he basically catfish me.
Starting point is 00:16:02 But I mean, bro, and just to say back on that subject, if somebody called you out for a battle, right? Hold on, hold on. If somebody called you out for a battle, right? Yeah. You're going to show up. It don't matter where it's at.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Am I right or wrong? But yeah, there's got, hold on, pee game, pick game, Keep game. Hold on, Pete game. Keep game. Now, if it's like, when you show up, bro, you went somebody room. There's no cameras.
Starting point is 00:16:21 It's just a bunch of his homies. You're going to be like, what am I doing this for? So what did I just drive 45 minutes? Because just a random person said, we're going to have a karate fight. He didn't fucking say. He felt me like he didn't really prove his qualifications or none of that shit. He did because I looked them up. If you looked somebody up on the internet and they got a record of 20 and 16, bro, they're a real fighter.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I could look at video of them in the cage. It's fighting. So you so you peeped this video. You people. Bro, it's like Quentin Rampage Jackson. I've actually trained with him before. Yeah. It's like Quentin Rampage Jackson saying,
Starting point is 00:16:51 yo, I got a whole setup in my house. Come through, we're going to spar, or we're going to train in here. Bro, based on this dude's, like, accolades and his notarrived. You're not quite a war chief to rampage. No, but what I'm saying, Hey, bro, got as many losses as, around. He got, oh, hold on, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Don't do rampage like that. We got a rampage. He got as many fights as Rampage, bro. Like, bro, I train. Would you, would you, would you take a battle of a rampage? A fight? No. I'm with,
Starting point is 00:17:18 with, listen, listen, listen, I've trained with Rampage, I've trained with Rampage, a body shop fitness when it was in Lakewood,
Starting point is 00:17:27 uh, now it's at Matterx, go check them out, Antonio McKee, AJ McKee, former Belletor champion. I trained with Rampage at their gym. One,
Starting point is 00:17:36 Rampage don't really know how to go like 30% or 40%. He's going to train. He's going to play. Bro is big. Bro is big. He literally says, that, bro, I'm not trying with this dude no more, because we're going to end up fighting for real. Rampage really said that.
Starting point is 00:17:48 But I'm just like, bro, I'm trying to keep up with, like, your 80% is like, a hundred percent. He's sparring. No, I mean, I've seen Rampage being Long Beach allowed on seconds for you. Hell yeah. And I want my green to my girl. You know, my girl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I'm talking my girl. If Rampage, look at you, just keep walking because I'm not fighting him. Oh my God. I lose. Hey, especially when bro is not in fighting shape, that nigger is big and, like, chunky. Like, no. That's the thing. So would that be?
Starting point is 00:18:14 said, I think War Chief, who you got a good 79 pounds on. Should I have a hundred and twenty? Yeah. But it's not equivalent to rampage. No, but it's two different fighting styles. He wants to strike and Brandon want to do. No, I get it.
Starting point is 00:18:29 I understand. And I think it was fair for you to say, hey, I'll give you this. But first we got to do jihitsu because you challenge my belt. That's the only reason I said that. That's the only reason I said that. I do kind of feel that. It's like somebody saying, oh, you can't make hit songs, but he's a freestyle. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Let's go song for song. And then we can do a freestyle battle. Yep. Let's do a rap battle. Yep. Right, right. On guard, I'll let you try this Wu-Tang style. No, what?
Starting point is 00:18:51 As famously said on Bring the Ruckus. You feel on me? What's what do you think about this creep? What do you think about the fact that Adam then basically went against their own in favor of a straight-up troll that nobody knew? Because it did give a little bit of like, no jumper. Everybody except for Tay and my boy, Kislim, they all kind of like turned against me, I guess in the name of getting content and it didn't even work out.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I hate on you. From that, yeah, for that. Yeah. No, I actually didn't hate on it. Yeah, I think they was just. I think less was on. I'm sorry. But you were saying something.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Wait, wait, one mic. One mic. I think everybody on bullshit over that. Because anybody who's seen that video and thinking with an unbiased opinion, like, obviously, gang, like, ain't nobody showing up and just fighting somebody in their garage on a floor mat. That's supposed to be a professional. Like, of course, it's a hilarious situation. And there's a million things to laugh about.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I really wasn't a. ever like oh Brandon K about it you feel I mean no but I think your audience even though the audience is like they pretend to love everything y'all do a lot of people hate watch this channel so when y'all show absolutely no loyalty to me it just in my opinion confirmed what people thought about
Starting point is 00:19:59 no jumper for a long time like all them niggas ain't shit they just I'm just telling y'all y'all you want to be talking about hood shit there is a certain level of loyalty that's okay with that being said then Brandon why were you disloyal to the viral way.
Starting point is 00:20:15 What the fuck? You switched up on your own homie. How was I just listening? You feel me? You said, I don't even fucking trust these guys. He's calling his other homies. They came all out their way to be there to defend you. I met Brandon through the viral way. I talked to Brandon that day.
Starting point is 00:20:32 I said, Brandon, you got to make this right. How many times without pressing you go about that? He is adjacent in the viral ways universe. He's a viral way member. He's like me. Yes. I'm not a viral way. Yes, you are.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Uncle Ruckus of the viral way. Yes, you are part of this. That's crazy. Listen. I'm about to defend you, but that is crazy. No, defend me. Defend me. What are you drinking?
Starting point is 00:20:52 Wings not, lemonade. Oh, okay. Hey, look, let me say this. And I'm just keep it as real as I can, my nigga. If I go somewhere and a nigger we show up and what we show up to is not what a nigger told both of us that it was supposed to be. And you're the nigger who facilitated all this. And I say, bro.
Starting point is 00:21:13 is this what we agreed to come to fight in? And you say, I don't know. You're not the homie. Like, I should, bro, you're supposed to be my homie. So, and I'm not asking you to lie. I'm asking you to just stand with me on the facts that this is not what we can't do. Viral, viral, because he's a shi-stie nigger trying to get content. He literally tried to play the middle.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Oh, I don't know. But y'all can still do this and do that. Bro, I'm going to give you advice like I give my son or my brother. Hey, bro, you ain't fighting in here because this ain't what the niggas said it was. This shit dangerous. This glass all on the walls. Who the fuck are these niggas?
Starting point is 00:21:50 Who's this nigga standing at the door with the hoodie on? Who is these niggas that keep walking up like crackheads? I'm not, yeah. If I bought you, I'm on whatever you own at that point. Once we get there, for sure. But he didn't bring him, though. No, let him finish this. But he, hold on.
Starting point is 00:22:04 But he facilitated, but go ahead, brother. Still, same shit. Like, if you facilitate and if you're in the middle of it, if you brought a nigga, once a nigga get there, and the circumstances change. or whatever it is that made him change what he came here on, because obviously he came over there on that type of time. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:22:21 He didn't be, he wasn't on no bitch timing because nine times out of 10, niggas ain't showing up for the fade anyway. You feel me? So he's basically saying that any reason that he had, that he wanted to change the direction of what was going on, they should have been on whatever he was on. He's calling viral way of Jackie promoter.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Lush, shut the hell out. He called him a Jackie promoter. Let me say this last part, because this, this the icing on the cake. Tay, you're going to be mad at me for saying it. The niggas start acting like he was trying to get chippy and, like, fight on some street shit, right? Nigger tried to put his finger in my face and I push his finger out my face. Viral lies and says, I got mushed in the face.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Then tries to walk it back. Oh, you didn't get much. She put his finger in your face. Then I told the nigger, if you try to be on some street shit, nigga, I smoke you straight up. Oh, shit. Vival took that video and put that shit on the internet. Who does that? I got that.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I got that. What, what, nigger? a homie do that. Listen, I know a homie. Tay, you a homie, my nigga. You're a real nigga. Listen, bro. I'm gonna keep it a buck with you.
Starting point is 00:23:21 When the nigga did, when that shit went down, I just said, look, I ain't got no animosity towards the niggas because I never said nothing bad. Mind you, Tate, who were the niggas who jumped up?
Starting point is 00:23:31 First, they was supposed to go on pun shit. And I posted on Instagram. Watch viral way get on back on fig and sland. You did say that. Did I not? Wait, then it fell through.
Starting point is 00:23:41 So instead of slandering me on back on fig, knowing I'm into the intro with the niggas. He comes to no jumper and then slanders me. Did he, part of being a home is that? Did Viro way have a relationship with them too? Like, those are homes? No, no, no. No.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Listen, I don't. I think the viral way was just looking at it like, all right, bet. Y'all here just squabble. You all, hold on. Keep you game, no. I think they just like, all right, since y'all here just squabbily damn. But it's a professional fighter. Yeah, that's a street shit. So that's why I respect Brandon.
Starting point is 00:24:07 A nigg did I respect both parties? No, I get it too. But Brandon, did they, did you know they were filming? Did you know he was. filming at that time. If a nigga came to me on some like, my nigga, fuck you. Fuck where you from. Nigga, we on some hood shit. The phone call would have been totally different. I would have called the
Starting point is 00:24:23 homies. And, nigga, first of all, the nigga would have to come find me where I'm at. Second of all, I would have been like my group, I'm coming with at least 20 people. On top of that, you got to look at it like this, too. Take, bro, like, viral way, it's kind of like, bro. I don't know this dude and you don't know this dude. I'm putting 100% trusting to you to make sure that this shit go the way that you say
Starting point is 00:24:46 it's supposed to go because you're the one in direct contact with these folks. So when he got there and it wasn't what dude said it was, it was really viral way of responsibility to call the fight off. It shouldn't even have been for you. But not to that perspective. That's why I said the biggest mistake
Starting point is 00:25:03 was him even going. No, listen. No, no. But listen. I said that. I said that several times. I will, I will accept that. But what I'm telling you is when we ride, like, when my homies, right? If I'm rolling with my homeboys, we 100% on our side. Of course.
Starting point is 00:25:18 There ain't no room to try to figure out what a nigga or less change the circumstances, whatever. All I'm saying is this, I got no hard feelings against him. That's why I've never slander viral way. I never went on no jumper to go back at them over what they said to me. If I got an issue a wire way, I'm going to call viral and say what I got to say. Did you know
Starting point is 00:25:40 he was filming? Yeah. When he came up, he was filming at that point. So did you tell him, hey, don't put this out? But no, but listen. Don't put this out. Listen, man, you shouldn't even, what's understood, don't need to be explained. And then when I say, I'm a smoke you,
Starting point is 00:25:52 I'm willing to do that in all of our best interests. Because if a nigga getting chippy and I think the dude was high, you don't know who he could. The bro, he did a little call like, hey, some, some, so. Bro, y'all didn't see that shit on the video? I said, ooh-coochee! I know you saw that. But then I got to ask you, too, though,
Starting point is 00:26:10 it was your expectation of viral way to only post you in a positive light. Let's say you would have lost the fade. You feel me? If he would have posted that you lost, would you have felt some type of way? No, I took the fade. At the end of the day, he's still a content creator.
Starting point is 00:26:27 So, you know what I mean? He can get all the content he won't. He could have came to the second one that we set up. But what I'm saying is, when we come into, like Floyd ain't nobody coming with Floyd Mayweather. If they show up in a nigga guy, eight-ounce gloves and he's supposed to have 16-ounce gloves, ain't nobody going to be like, well, y'all can still get in there and go fight.
Starting point is 00:26:47 No, they're going to be like, this is not what you said it was supposed to be. So let's reschedule it. And even viral said, I ain't fighting in there. And then he did say, y'all could go somewhere else, which I said, that's fine. And I did end up setting it up. But just on the whole, like, the plausible deniability shit where a nigger asked you a straight up and down question as a man, like, if you ask me some shit, Lush, we've talked on a. phone and stuff. We can joke around
Starting point is 00:27:12 here, but when we personally talking, you talking as a man, my nigga, if I say is this what we agree to? Don't say, I don't know. Because you're a very intelligent, nigga, you know this and what we agree to. At that point, I feel like you're trying to like play me. You're trying to like, oh, he said,
Starting point is 00:27:28 I don't know. Man, that nigga was, I don't know, and y'all can still, like, you act after the fact that you're like a female. You act like a female. You just want to see some bullshit. You're not like protecting my interest. And if I do lose, I'm already taking a risk because I could get over there and get knocked out. But also mechanically, be like, wouldn't it be to your advantage of fighting a small
Starting point is 00:27:46 confines space? That would, no, it's not my advantage if niggas got glass cases all the water. Yeah, well, had washing machines, refrigerators, our cases. Which could potentially be utilized in a fight for being honest. No, I mean, but that's not what it's about. You could just trip and fall. You saw the movie million dollars. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:01 They got a gym mat on the floor. No, yeah. I got a gym mat. It's thick. I'll just break somebody neck on that. Yeah. But at first, bro, was talking about fighting on the country. concrete, he didn't even want to put the mats down.
Starting point is 00:28:11 He was like, the mats ain't stable. They're not pinned down. I said, okay, then this is not what you told them. We could just get it in on the concrete. That's crack-haired shit. That's like I've been getting high and I feel like I'm, like, charged up. I'm not on that, bro. I got to work the next day.
Starting point is 00:28:25 I got a family that depends on me. You're not going to pay my medical bills if I split my fucking kneecap like my friend did doing the same dumb shit. So I have a lot of experiences that have an impact on what I do. Well, shit, with bro, with bro, like you. said thinking he was just clout chasing off the whole situation. Maybe that was his motive to begin with. What you saying that
Starting point is 00:28:46 what you saying that y'all come from the same space like you know if you tell another fighter like I got this set up, woo-woo, and then you get there and it's different, it wasn't going to happen. Maybe he knew like, I'm going to set it up to where we ain't going to be able to get down anyway, but I can get the crowd off of it. I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:29:03 That's why now that Brandon set up. Did you ask him to put the match there? No, I said, I said you don't have any mats and when he was on video he said oh you want mats then he threw the mats down what are you talking about there's five guys named Matt next door
Starting point is 00:29:17 he knew it wasn't going to shot Mateo Mateo Mateo Mattio I mean you told him for them that no that trash crap look bro the bad thing is bro says he trains MMA fighters so when you
Starting point is 00:29:32 say that in my mind I'm thinking bro probably got the keys to several gyms why bring me there to waste my time and what I know he knows is if you know about martial artists, especially jiu-jitsu people and stuff like that, he knew bro ain't gonna fight in this shit. This shit is not, this is insane. It was all set up. So he knew
Starting point is 00:29:50 I wasn't going to fight and so then based on the way the internet think, oh, you got marked out because you don't want to fight in unsafe circumstances. It's really crazy to me because most of these people ain't going to fight, period. You start talking about I'm going to get a switch. That's why you should have never gone to begin with. You know what it is. You should have been lying. You let me learn. He said,
Starting point is 00:30:09 I expected more from a person of his caliber. But it's a thin line between professional fighting and street fighting. For sure. I mean, I'm a thick line. It's not blurry. So that's what it was. But I mean, come on, guys, we got an elephant in the room. Something big happened yesterday.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Oh, yeah. Let's get to it. Yeah, sure. So yesterday, Charlie Kirk was assassinated. He was doing a speech at, I think it was a Utah college. Yeah, in Utah. How do y'all feel about that? Man.
Starting point is 00:30:35 What are you? What are you? What are you? What? Matter of fact, we get to Brandon, last. Alas, because, you're talking a lot on Facebook. How you feel about Charlie Kirk? I have a very dark sense of humor.
Starting point is 00:30:49 So, hey, wait, wait. Before you go into that, hey, first let's give our condolences and I send our love to Charlie Kirk's family. His wife, his two kids, all those people. Whatever is said here, please do not take this as the sentiment of no jumper as a company. This is each individual person's opinion. But we do, beyond everything, send you our blessings. and I wish you are, send our love in this hard time for you. No, I'm definitely not a fan of political assassinations of any variety in any capacity.
Starting point is 00:31:18 If you've seen people both on the right, left, front, back, side to side denounce that. I mean, the Zionists just lost their biggest soldier. What are you talking about? Well, he wasn't a soldier at the last part of his, uh, he fell out with him in the end. Oh, did he? Yeah, so that's why I was my eye open. How did you feel about it? Did he? Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:39 because I thought he was like, I'm a side agent, essentially. Like, when, like in the... Bro, the last, like... He was recently getting shit about. He was, he was, like, super pro-Israel. The last two or three months, he started having to change on his opinion with him.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Really? Because I'll be honest. Well, I'll tell you what's going on, but how do you feel? How do I feel about it? Like, obviously, it's a tragedy, especially, like I said, it's a political assassination. However, I looked at it like this.
Starting point is 00:32:09 First of all, I'm in the battle rap community. I got to timestamp these bars because everybody going to have some shit to say. So I had to be the first person. And I was watching, like, as it happened, like within minutes of it. So I had to be the first on Twitter with the, you feel of me, shot in the throat. You feel in me? Like what you said on Facebook. Charlie Kirk.
Starting point is 00:32:28 And verbatim, you said no headshot busted in her throat like Charlie Kirk. You feel of me? You don't think that's a little bit too soon? I think it's a fire-ass bar. But do you like that? It definitely was. You don't think that was too soon because, you know, his kids was in attendance when that happened. But, I mean, like, yeah, that's like, obviously I don't want his children to have to endure any suffering or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Like, but as far as bars go, fire bars. And also, and the way I was looking at it is like, we're on no jumper. This is an extension of hip hop culture. Hip hop culture has been run rampant by drill music for a long time, which encompasses what people celebrating the death of black teenagers, satirizing it, making dances from it. You feel in me about the way that they're dying. Naming fucking strains of weed after dead people and all kinds of disrespect. Nothing's out the window.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Sending memes of parents of deceased. There's no limit to the disrespect. Digging up graves like drill music encompasses all that, right? And we laugh about it and we talk about it. I'm not saying the people of this. I'm not saying, but does that make that okay? No, it doesn't. Like, do you think personally that's okay for them to do that?
Starting point is 00:33:36 No, it doesn't. But you know what else? That's not any less okay or more okay than, oh, the guy that I saw on YouTube, always saying some racist out-of-pocket shit wound up getting shot in his neck for talking out the side of it. You feel, me? Like, nice try, Goldberg. This is not the same thing, though, because Charlie Kirk doesn't talk about violence.
Starting point is 00:33:58 He doesn't advocate for violence. Charlie Kirk is someone who is a godly, God-fearing individual. He promotes family. Charlie Kirk is someone who, in my opinion, he reflects the better side of America where he's like, look, we have a disagreement. We have a disagreement. We have a difference of opinion.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I'm going to come to where you are. I'm going to meet you where you're at. I'm going to give you a microphone and a platform that otherwise you would never have knowing whatever here, what you have to say. I'm going to give you my pedestal. And you can express whatever sentiment you have about what I believe.
Starting point is 00:34:37 And I'm going to correct you with a smile and basically try to reach the olive branch out to you. Bro, what's all positivity? Hip hop is negative in nature. So for him to die tragically like that, it just, it doesn't speak to him or what he represented.
Starting point is 00:34:54 It speaks to a radicalized element that exists within our country that really needs to be dealt with. Thanks 100%. I do agree with that, however. We got to let creep talk. Let's show. Get up the fuck up. You talk all week.
Starting point is 00:35:07 No, no, no, no, no, go ahead, creep. Man, look, this might be like vans off the wall, but I feel like they put that boy ass on the flow. And it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? At the end of the day, look, this is the reason why I feel like that, bro, because he wasn't always just keeping shit respectfully.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Bro, you don't see you, I've never seen the clip when he got into it with the Chinese dude and he blew his top and got up and started calling Chinese dude all type of chinks and shit like that. Yeah, bro. It's a clip of that. Him calling the Chinese dude change. Dude said that, uh, he said that, um,
Starting point is 00:35:41 civil rights should have never happened. So what do that mean for our people? I agree with that in the 1940s. It was bad. It was evil. But what happened? Something changed. They committed less crimes.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Maybe they were afraid. I mean, 4,000 black men, women, and children were killed in violent lynchmots. That's your explanation. But racial terror permeated American culture for hundreds of years. Black America is worse than it has been. that affected the generational psych of an entire group of people. Black America is the worst has been since the 1940s according to this. It's worse.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I mean, but it is in 1940. Hold on. Hold on. He's not lying. Now, let's think about this. Back in the 1940s,
Starting point is 00:36:19 right, it was segregation and racism, right? That pretty much pressured black people to be with each other, to be cool. We were funded. We had black fathers. We were good with our neighbors.
Starting point is 00:36:31 If I see a black man, hey, brother, what's up, brother? In hindsight, And today, when I see a black person that's dressed like me, I feel like he's a threat. He's a threat. And so back in the days, it was more of a family thing. Nowadays, without segregation, without racism, we're against each other.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Like, it's more segregation and racism within our community. I hate to say this, TAY, without segregation, you don't exist. You feel me? I mean, that's like you are literally the results of racist mixing. Exactly. If segregation was still a thing, there would be no. You mean without these segregation? But listen.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Yeah, but listen. But that's not the argument. That's not the argument. The argument is, were black people better in the 40th and today? Right, right. But just to put it in perspective, yes, because. No, no, no, no. I was going back to the civil rights thing.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Yeah, yeah. The whole, go ahead, go ahead. Just the fact that, like, that black people at that time didn't even have access to basic human rights like voting. You feel me? Brandon couldn't be popping it. Like, the way he was a vote in 1940? Civil rights. He said civil rights movement should have never happened. Now, I don't agree with that. I don't agree with everything he says.
Starting point is 00:37:39 No, I agree with 100% that civil rights destroyed black America and for the very reasons that Tay was given. Back before civil rights, before Martin Luther King convinced black people that the epitome of their existence was to gain the acceptance of whites, black people were self-reliant. In 1940, black people had an economy that per capita rivaled the white economy. one in three black people owned a home. One in three, shit, one in, shit, 85% of black children had a two-parent household. So what I'm saying is you could say civil rights came to help us, but from the moment we accepted the idea of civil rights,
Starting point is 00:38:19 our community disintegrated. Even when you think about redlining and stuff, oh, what about redlining, all these little intellectual... What years that sat based on, though? Hold on because that's very misleading. Listen, because you're not even thinking you do a... I said 1940. Correct, correct, correct.
Starting point is 00:38:33 My grandfather came to Long Beach in 1943 and built a house. Compared to when, though, when you said the 85%? Like, like, compared to now. Compared to now. So, so you don't think that there is any form, like, what are you talking about? Iran-Contraigrant, 1980s. That has nothing. That has a lot to do with everything.
Starting point is 00:38:52 That's a motherfuckering. Just like Charlie Clark getting smoked. Civil rights is what. It was clearly done by probably a conservative fucking operation. Civil rights is what. Listen, civil rights is what. rights is what ushered in and made the crack epidemic possible. Because when you
Starting point is 00:39:07 had insulated black communities, black people had control over what came in and out of their community. When I've been talking about separatism, I've been saying this for months, guys. Here it is. Listen, no, this is not preaching separatism. Yes, it is. No, this is preaching, this is preaching autonomy
Starting point is 00:39:23 and self-free lines. You can't say separatism when there's a fucking China town, 10 miles away from here with all Chinese. How can you So for life, you're not even allowed to fucking go and drink the same water, fountains or go to the same business establishments. Listen, bro. How is that possible?
Starting point is 00:39:38 You're not even allowed to own businesses, own property in certain areas. How the fuck is that progress? That is the craziest thing I've ever heard. Capitalism. People trying to act like the civil rights movement wasn't amazing. It was horrible. Listen. Are you out of your soul?
Starting point is 00:39:52 I want you to listen instead of trying to get a viral moment. Capitalism corrects all that. That stuff wasn't fixed by. civil rights. That was fixed by capitalism. Go watch the film by the... Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You see what happened with Black Walls? Let me finish. Let me finish.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Lyndonberg. Look, if you go watch the film, how to sell to the Negro, Secretary of the Treasury made this film, 1957. He told whites there is an untapped market that white entrepreneurs are not
Starting point is 00:40:27 have not identified and targeted. The Negro. capitalism would have made it to where they would have been forced to say, you know what? I got to sell to these black folks because they have money. That is why when you look at these other groups who came into America after post-civil rights, you never had an issue with them because they understood if I got the money, they got the honey. So if I bring the dollars, they're going to integrate with me themselves because they want my money. Sounds good, but you know better than that because you know, like, we know how fucking repression works.
Starting point is 00:41:00 You think motherfuckers would have had a chance? Are you fucking crazy? Did you just disagree with everything he said? No, but I do disagree with the 1940 situation. Yes. But that's not that. As far as the statistics, no. No, no, as far as the statistics, no.
Starting point is 00:41:13 I'm not taking objection to any of the statistics. So you tell me when he said that and he was talking about black families having fathers in their lives. I never said that. I never said that. You disagree with that? You said one of these. I did not say that. So he is speaking true.
Starting point is 00:41:30 I'm asking, so he is speaking truth on the 1940 situation. Based on that, I guess, if that's the fact, I would consider that. Come on, don't reconsider it. But I never said different. I never said different. I said a lot of things have happened. It's difficult to properly equate that because it's not. It is very easy.
Starting point is 00:41:46 It is. People are so many levels, like when they got to talking about the abortion situation, this dude told the person that he was talking to that abortions is worse than the Holocaust. It is. The numbers are like dorfing the Holocaust. What? It is. The fashion in which these people were killed is worse than medically removing something that has no feeling. Big game.
Starting point is 00:42:08 That's not true. Hey, listen. Hey, hold on. Cree, let me give them facts. How is that not true? Let me give them facts. With the Holocaust, who it was written by is the people that happen to. So the numbers are inflating.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Let's just get that. No, stop. Don't say that. What I'm going to say this, six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust. 60 million black kids have been aborted since the night. The numbers don't even compare, bro. No, I'm not talking about the numbers. I'm talking about the,
Starting point is 00:42:34 for him to say that the Holocaust is worse than abortion. No, he said abortion is worse than alcohol. That's a powerful statement from a weapon. Bro, the fashion in which these people were killed, gang, thrown in incinerators, shot, shit like that. That's worse than somebody medically removing. Yes, it is. Have you seen how they do abortion?
Starting point is 00:42:58 bro. But this is the thing. We're talking about something that has no feeling. You can't feel pain. This, this, this, this is not. This fetus or whatever. You can't, this don't feel pain.
Starting point is 00:43:11 We're not babies that are bored. So we don't know what that pain feel like. No, they do feel pain because they have a heartbeat. They have skin. They have all that. Some of those babies come out and they're screaming. They're still alive. There are far more abortions than the Holocaust,
Starting point is 00:43:23 but let's also take into account that the Holocaust was a five-year period. Here's the issue. The Holocaust. don't affect you and me. That's the whole thing. So Charlie Kirk, here's the thing. The Holocaust happened in Germany. Those weren't Americans.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Charlie Kirk is an American. Focused on what's hurting America. We are Americans. So it's ignorant for an American to act like they care more about something happening in Germany than something that is a that is a Holocaust in our own soil that's destroying our community. Community. Do you realize that we are only four, we built this country?
Starting point is 00:43:54 And we are only 14% of the population of this country. Why? because we've eliminated, we've exterminated the vast majority of the kids that would have had families. That one kid accounted for 20, 30 people. There is been a very targeted campaign towards the black community when it comes to abortion. That is undeniable. I'm with you on that 100,000 percent. Is it janky?
Starting point is 00:44:21 Yes. Since we're playing chat GBT games and I wanted to bear it. I didn't look up chat. I know, yeah. I just wanted to verify some shit. Right. So let's verify this. Prior to the civil rights movement, we're talking about the mid-50s through the 60s, right? Black people, and here's certain civil liberties that y'all did not have.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Number one, like I said, voting rights. Okay. Yeah. Most motherfuckers couldn't even vote. But if you wanted to, most ain't all. All had to request people to pay a fee to vote. You had to pay a fee. But there was.
Starting point is 00:44:53 You had to pay a fee undergo a literacy test and there was no grandfather clause. They need to bring that back. The grandfather clause. Oh, yeah. Fair enough. That's fair enough. And that go back into the segregation shit, though. Universally, not just for them, though.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Grandfather clauses. Intimidation and violence. Groups like the Ku Klux Klan allowed to operate with impunity. Anytime there would be communities that would gain fiscal independence, they would get shut down and burnt like what happened to Black Wall Street. Tolstah. Y'all fucking know history. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:45:24 On top of that, freedom of movement of public access. Jim Crow laws. segregation. People weren't even allowed to go to the best institutions. You want to make your own schools, historic black colleges? That's awesome. I'm here. I support it fully. But you won't have the option to go to the fucking white kids' schools, too.
Starting point is 00:45:39 You don't have it back then. How fucked up is that. You know why? Life is better. Life is better pre-fucking civil rights. Are you fucking crazy? Do you know why that's the case? Because the Democrat party that you support was started to get. Fuck the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:45:53 They did. They ushered. Fuck the Democrats. Wait a minute. They started KKK. They were the progenitors of segregation. Every racist thing you named was occurring in the South and was a product of the Dixie Crats that later became the Democrats. So now you're saying, Brandon, in the future, the guys who actually fought against this, the abolitionists, who are the Republicans, a party created by black people, these guys are now bad. But the guys who start, who perpetuated all this racist crap, they're now good. You just killed your own argument. No. No.
Starting point is 00:46:28 No. What I said is that black people, life has been better since the civil rights movement. There's been progress and opportunities. Hey, Charlie Kirk. And then for y'all to say, like, during the second, it was better for segregation because we have more control over our communities and shit. That's not necessarily true. With limited resources.
Starting point is 00:46:45 But that's not necessarily true because post-civil rights, like before civil rights, if we didn't have a motherfucking right to vote, they still had control. over who was governing and mayor in our city. We did have a right to. So they still was telling us who and what we couldn't do in our own God. Our community. What I meant by that, we was better before segregation is because as a family, you had a father in your life, a black father.
Starting point is 00:47:10 In hindsight today, it's not a lot of families who has a father and a mom, a two-parent household. Look, during segregation, a black person could live a black experience anywhere in the country. Like, if you go out to LA, right of a different one in the big cities, they wouldn't. Listen, if I go to L.A. right now, I could go, an Asian person could wake up and go like this, and go out and do business with none but Asians. He can get his car fixed by Asian, go to an Asian dry cleaner, go to an Asian grocery store, all this stuff, and get every single thing he need to live. A black person can't do that in L.A. A black person can't even do that
Starting point is 00:47:42 in Denver or can't even do that damn in New York. Why? Because segregation allowed for big money capitalist to infiltrate black communities and it encouraged black people to leave their community. You should have a black person can't do one out here? Wait, listen. I didn't think that was true what it said. Look, look. It encouraged black people to leave their community and go do business with white own
Starting point is 00:48:06 businesses. And so what was the direct result? Black businesses shut down. But again, we did it. Like you said, Tulsa and all that type of shit. Black Washington, we did it. But that's what I'm saying. It was done. And they came through and did what they did. Right. Black Wall Street is still there.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Black people don't even shop at it. Right. But, because, we're just. Because because of it was shut the fuck down. It was built back two years later. Yeah, but like that was enough of her. Like you saw, you know the history, dog. I don't got to tell you. Black Wall Street was built back.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Black people went back to patronize. They didn't have the same affluence. It didn't have the same. What happened was after desegregation, black people start doing this thing where they thought white ice was colder. I want to go eat at the white people restaurant. I want to go shop at the wine. Same thing they do now.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Black people don't buy black brands now. They want to buy Louis. They want to buy Gucci. Why? Because black civil rights created an environment where black people started to think that things were better just because white people were creating them. Before that, black people didn't have that money. So you feel like it would be better if we were separated. And like, because that way, there'd be able to be more of a monolithic control.
Starting point is 00:49:15 And you guys would be able to govern y'all selves better? All races, but you stick to ourselves, would that be better? No. But this conversation started where you had set a ball. about Charlie Kirk's. Do you feel like that bar was too soon? Like I said, I had to timestamp it.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Would you have said, oh, he got shot six times and he Nipsey? No, I wouldn't have. But why? So are you against everything that Charlie Clark said, or is it that? No, I'm not against everything Charlie Crick.
Starting point is 00:49:45 I have respect for Nipsey. Like, Charlie Kirk was the racist guy that I saw. But that's how I took him. But you also feel it. That goes against what you said. How does it go against what I said? You also said that you agree with something they say.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Nipsey Hustler, Charlie Clerk. I believe they probably neither of them killed any. Well, let's say. Who promoted the death and murder of black people more? Nipsey or Charlie Kirk? I was trying to take away on civil rights, guys. You're talking trash about you. You support Nipsey because you're pandering, bro.
Starting point is 00:50:13 I'm not enough to say this. I just think he's a dope rapper, bro. I would take, listen, I would take 100, Charlie, look, I would take one Charlie Kirk over 100 Nipsey Hustles for this. You went to the Marathon Burger opening talking about on For the simple fact, for the simple fact of this, Charlie Kirk's, the things he promoted, in my opinion, was the direction someone like Nipsey Hustle eventually was going to end up at, right? So Charlie Kirk was already talking about family, this, that, and the third. I'm a person who's like, I hear what Charlie Kirk is said.
Starting point is 00:50:43 I'm like, that is the way to prosperity. I see Nipsey Hustle. I love what he's doing, but Nipsey was a work in progress. I'm not going to say Charlie Kirk was a racist because Charlie Kirk didn't promote racism. Charlie Kirk promoted religion and he promoted open dialogue. You could say he'd like black people, but...
Starting point is 00:51:02 Hypocrisy and the fucking church aside. Let's not fucking lie. We're not going there. I'm a Christian. Do you think Charlie Kirk was a racist or just a real American? Like, I'm asking you a serious question. I think that he promoted a lot of racist ideology. What?
Starting point is 00:51:19 What? Like, for example, the conversation we just had is one. He also said, but that wasn't racist. That was him being American and saying, this is for the black community. Okay. What about him saying black women? He said, black women are incapable of making decisions for themselves. It was something about, I don't want to say that.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Let me, let me get the exact quote. But we got to get it far off if he said. Let me get the exact quote. It was something. He wouldn't be far. This is full laughing in the back got me trying. I didn't hear. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:49 We got to hear his word verbatim. Because listen. Every time I've seen. Every time I've seen Charlie Kirk get into like an altercation or an argument with somebody, whether it's like transgenderism, abortion, the black community, he kind of had valid points. And, of course, the way he's saying it, maybe it could be said better. But it was just straight to the point, hey, this is what it is and you need to accept this
Starting point is 00:52:09 or you don't have to accept it, but go through it and see it for yourself. Right. Despite what Luscious is saying, and this is the ultimate fact with it, Charlie Kirk was responsible for millions of young men across all the, across the racial spectrum coming into conservative values looking at life based on
Starting point is 00:52:30 yo building a family restoring what the values of America and these people couldn't stand that. What does that mean? The exact quote by the way hold on boom well he did
Starting point is 00:52:44 one time he said gay people should be stoned to death most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane Yeah, he said if I seen a black pilot flying a plane, I would not abort the plane. I'm not going to hold you. I will be scared as hell if a person that was in like a situation who didn't get the credentials, but because it was a D.I or something like that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:04 And they just put it in there. Even if it's D.I, they still have to have a credential. No, no, no, no. To be a pilot? No, no, no. You don't have to have the, you don't have to have a credential. Religious freedom should be terminated. Multiple black politicians, quote, unquote, stole black people's spots.
Starting point is 00:53:21 They did. You, uh, listen, bro, you're quoting Charlie Kirk out of context. Martin Luther King was an, was an awful person. I agree with that 100%. Listen. I don't agree with that one.
Starting point is 00:53:30 I don't agree with that. You are quoting Charlie Kirk out of context. And what Charlie Kirk was saying, especially with the black pilot thing, he was saying in the age of DEI, he would be scared if he saw a black pilot, pilot in the plane because he doesn't know if that person got that job because they were qualified or because of
Starting point is 00:53:47 diversity. Right. And the number one way we see, the number one area we see this is in law enforcement where they they reduce the requirements the fitness requirements the competency requirements they reduce
Starting point is 00:54:00 that to allow more women onto the police force now every time you turn on your damn YouTube you see some dude we just saw the thing where the female cops they reduce the requirement to be a pilot check they did they're doing stuff like that but to be a pilot he said hold on hold on
Starting point is 00:54:16 he said black women do not have brain processing power to be taking seriously. But what was the context? You have to steal a white person. And what about this? What about this one? What about this one? You're watching. This is what I was talking about about the Asian thing. Put it on the mic.
Starting point is 00:54:36 He got pissed off. Security every single year. He got pissed off. Jake, let's go. I mean, I agree with that. Listen, man. We all have moments like that. If you, no, hold on.
Starting point is 00:54:47 There's not no excuse for that. And we all just not an excuse for that. Hey. He's accountable for that. But we all have moments like that. Like, I've had moments like that, my damn self. Captain Sable. Lush, you what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:55:00 You're trying to arrest you this guy. Hey, I'm not. Hey, this is the hypocrisy. This dude Lush will be like free somebody who's a straight up like... Free Dirk. Yeah. Free E.BK.J. Listen, listen.
Starting point is 00:55:11 I mean it too. Can you let me talk or you're going to filibuster because you're trying to be Adam right now. But it's not going to happen on Thursday show. It's not going to happen on Thursday show. You get out of that energy. You'll get your ass. flammed up out of this motherfucker. Stop interrupting me.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Look, what I'm saying is this. Free a bunch of degenerates, right? But Charlie Kirk said, chink, is, oh, my God. That's when you know someone's supposed to be the beacon of fucking purity. That's when you know someone is a hypocrite, like lush. See, what I'm going to say is this.
Starting point is 00:55:42 When Charlie Kirk goes to those colleges, those students try to gaslight him. Listen to the things they say, bro. They're throwing out race. suit slurs. So if he throws one back, you're getting what you're dishing out. No, but not go against what he's stand for though. No, it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Yes, a dude. Bro, he's, he's plaguing. He's rage baiting. Charlie Kirk never said that he was Martin Luther King. Let niggas whip off in your ass and not do nothing. No man is going to sit there and let you constantly degrade him without saying something degradatory back. So
Starting point is 00:56:14 stop expecting Charlie Kirk to not be a man about his shit. And that's what the restoration of America is. He's supposed to be able to voice his opinion, right? He's supposed to allow people to voice their opinion without him taking, without him getting mad and being offensive. Hold on, hold on, hold on. But a lot of the times when they're talking, when they're voicing their opinion,
Starting point is 00:56:37 they're attacking him. They calling him out his name. They're saying that you're a weirdo. They're saying that you are the downfall of American citizens. Saying stuff about his family. They say shit about my family. Somebody's in my inbox. Your daughter's an effing whore.
Starting point is 00:56:49 okay I got to take that. I have to take that and come back with something that's hitting you because at certain points I'm a man and sometimes that shit does conflict with my attitude. Yeah, but at the end of the day, him calling the Chinese people what he called him? Like, that's completely unnecessary. Yeah, and I'll say that.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Unnecessary. It's unnecessary. He's supposed to be this beacon of purity. That's Christian ideology. That's what I'm saying. That shall not hate your diner. Charlie Kirk is not, listen. Charlie Kirk is not Jesus and not God.
Starting point is 00:57:22 He's going to make mistakes. And he's not a politician. Yeah, you're right. He was just a guy. But now he's getting martyrized in a similar person. No, he is a martyr. I'm not saying, you don't think he's a martyr? And I'm not saying he was caught.
Starting point is 00:57:33 He was a lot. He absolutely. All I'm saying, he wasn't, he wasn't all right. And he wasn't all wrong. 100% die on your opinion. That's what we all in here doing right now. We just say in our opinions on something. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Brandon should get killed tomorrow over because he didn't do an M&A fire. All right, you did you fight. Like, that's bullshit. It's just like what you said earlier. You know what I'm saying? Like, matter of fact, if somebody says something to you, you're going to state it back. I got a good example. Remember last week how you had that, um, debate with Brandon?
Starting point is 00:58:00 You was cooking. Yeah. But do you think somebody should be killing you over your opinions? Yes. Right. No, I'm saying. They should kill you over your opinion. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Look, when I open up. Nah, come on. Let me. Let them. Let them go. Let them good. Exactly like you said, what I was saying. Hey, look, bro, when you're speaking on a public.
Starting point is 00:58:19 platform and you got the voice power to go ahead and affect the masses, whether it's positive or negative, you subject yourself to whatever comes after that. Yep. No, regardless, you subject yourself to, as far as routine, wait, wait, wait, wait. You saying not getting shot, but that's subjective, gang. You get what I'm saying? At the end of the day, what it means to you ain't what it mean to me, gang. I make takes, look, just because you handle something a certain way, you want to handle shit
Starting point is 00:58:48 with words, I may handle shit with violence. violence, bro. It just is what it is. I'm not talking about whether it's right or wrong. I'm talking about what it is. So I'm not operating on moral compass. So if I get on, if I get on this platform, right, and I say, fuck all crips, man, I subject myself to whatever happens after that because I may be certain type of people. But he never said. Hold on. Hold on. First of all, hold on. That's a street value mentality. So we can't base this off it is. This is American. Like he's not a straight dude. So hold on. Somebody hurting you over. your opinion. You think that's cool? I think
Starting point is 00:59:22 hell yeah. I feel like it's validated because, again, what it means to you and what it means to them, gang. So what are you feeling? Hold on, hold on, but I think that's his, that was his argument. It's like, I should be able to have an opinion without you being physically or violent against me. Correct. But that's his opinion.
Starting point is 00:59:37 I think that's just him. But that's a moral opinion, too. Like, I should come to you right now and be like, oh, bro, yeah, I'm black and Asian, but I don't even fuck it rice or shrimp. But again, the Asian community shouldn't attack me for that. Everybody don't have the same morals. Everybody don't have the same morals, gang. Everybody got the right.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Listen. But what we're saying. No, listen. Right or wrong. Again, it's subjective. Yeah. Everybody is different. No, it's not as subjective as we would like it to be because here's what we're missing.
Starting point is 01:00:01 The context. The people who are celebrating Charlie Kirk's death are the same people who drive around with a bumper sticker on the back of a car that says tolerance and it has all the symbols of every religion on the back. Yes. These are the same people saying, we have empathy for the people dying in Gaza. And we have empathy for the people. dying in Ukraine. These people
Starting point is 01:00:21 are gaining your trust by lying to you, telling you that they are the empathetic ones. They are the gentle warriors. They are the peaceful warriors. The ones who are going to see the humanity. They say, what about humanity? Why is it always a partisan
Starting point is 01:00:37 issue? Why do you always interrupt me, bro? You've been talking for hours, dog. We can't even make a... No, no, no. Listen, bro, we can't even make a clip with this nigga. Like, stop interrupting me. Dude, you're talking enough. Go ahead. Listen, look.
Starting point is 01:00:52 It's not all the political campaign. Listen, man. Listen, you're just mad because I don't agree with you. No, at all. I expect you to not agree. But I just don't think it's all the partisan issue, bro. These are the people who say, like this liar, he's over here talking about, I'm not mad.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I'm just exposing it. This dude is making fun of a dude who just got his hair blown off and got killed in front of his family. But then he wants you to believe he cares about these gangs. The reality is he don't give a fuck about none of that. He will use them as a stepping stone to get notoriety for himself. This, this nigga is a Jewish person. How?
Starting point is 01:01:31 Listen. Jewish people have been doing this. Jewish people have been doing this for years. So now you're depleting all Jews on me. You've been doing this for years. Listen, Jewish people have been doing this for years and Lush and Josh are pretending like they're not doing the same shit right here. How?
Starting point is 01:01:50 You bring a nigga on the show and the nigga can't even talk. Bro, you've been talking. You've been talking to like a bitch while 18 Richie was trying to get his appointment. You've been talking here the whole time. You've been talking here the whole time. Shut up. He should have just said, shut up, nigga. No.
Starting point is 01:02:08 And this fucking lock dog fucking sat down. It's one. It's one. No, see, now. He's going to do. No. Now you're just. Now you're just.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Now you're dick-sucking. No, you're dick-sucking. Daily. Daily. This is a dick-sucking clip. Now you're dick-sucking. Hey, dude. This nigger.
Starting point is 01:02:27 You haven't even made a single fucking valid point. Listen, bro. You're taking this conversation in 15 directions. In this motherfuckers. Played niggas. Okay. So let's talk about it. So let's talk about this.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Anti-Semitic vitriol. You're using anti-Semitic tropes. You're using anti-Semitic tropes. You're comparing. So I can't talk. So I can't talk. So I can't talk. So I can't talk.
Starting point is 01:02:51 So I can't talk. So I can't talk. I can't talk. I can't out yell you any day. No, no, no. No. No. No.
Starting point is 01:02:57 No. This thing. Thank you. Clearly. Unbalanced. Listen. Clearly unbalanced. Lush was making this exact fucking point on another show.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Nathan remembers. Lush was making a big thing about Jewish people taking advantage of black people who are rappers in music industry. Now I'm bringing the same. shit up in regards to him. Now I'm an anti-Semite. You are full of shit. So how am I, so how is anything I'm doing
Starting point is 01:03:24 driving off the success of black males in any capacity and limiting or trying to restrict their growth in any capacity? Can't? Right now. The floor is here. You can't. I'm not. Let's pretend to care about
Starting point is 01:03:39 illegal immigration. Right out there shaking his booty in front of the federal business. So he's going to just make a bunch of jokes. Trump is stepped up. Hey, Trump is stepped up illegal immigration. All right, all right. Lus ain't got a thing to say about it. Lus ain't got shit to say.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Listen, listen. No, you haven't. You get your ass cut now. No, no, because here's the thing. You made me ass like a nigga now. Listen, listen, listen. Listen. Listen.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Listen. Listen. This is a, this is not. What? No, it's all good. No, it's all good. One mic. One mic.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Shut out. One mic. One mic. Hey, it's a, this is a nonpartisan issue. Remember 40. You want it to be the biggest. They got the biggest kid. No, no, this is a good.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Let him step over every time. That's your point. This is why. This is why ATM. Ritchie was corrected by Adam. Because what ATM Ritchie was doing is bad podcasting, which we've all been instructed on. Adam does bad podcasting. You're doing it right now.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Oh, yeah. You're doing it right now. You're doing it. Let me speak. One mic. Everybody gets the right to talk. Shouts to ATM. Richie,
Starting point is 01:04:43 I thought that he could have continued and with some fucking and found a great way to work with us and it's a shame that he did the way he did. On behalf of ATM. Richie, I would like to say, fuck you. I mean, he definitely didn't say that. And I like to say, ATM. Ritchie ass looked like somebody grabbed him by the back of the head and just slid his fucking nose
Starting point is 01:05:01 across the road. And gave that niggum rug burn. Hey, go ahead. No, no, no. No, no. No. It's all good. It's all good. Come on. Let's. Come on, let's get your four to grab. Where? Which one of the niggas out? Now, Les. We got some niggas shit. Now we talk. We're talking over. You
Starting point is 01:05:16 This is 40, baby. Exactly. And what you want is some corny-ass fucking frat-boy shit. This ain't no, like, real shit. This ain't no street shit. You ain't talking about nothing, player. So let me break you. Whatever capacity that you want to refer to it.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Bad-nice. Yeah. Are you all right? I'm broke the chair. This top, B.S. Four extras broke this chair. This chair been broke. This chair.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Four extra donuts broke this chair right now. All right, this shit is crazy, bro. Caloric intake. Stop playing. You need to be in the caloric deficit. You are not in the caloric deficit, brother. With that being said, this is not a partisan issue. I don't know why you try to conflate everything with Republican versus Democrats.
Starting point is 01:05:59 That's what it is. The Democrats are trash, too, bro. I agree. Don't try to use me and tokenize me as the voice of the Jewish liberals fucking say. I don't even agree with half the shit they'd be popping. Sure you don't. Having a fucking voted for a candidate since Barack Obama and half the shit he did I was disappointed with. You're an agent.
Starting point is 01:06:16 I'm okay, sure. You're a Jewish, a Zionist agent. And I hate the phrase Zionism, and I will never identify. Sure you do. Oh shit. Lush throwing down in the bottoms, right? He gets crazy. It's actually, it actually, it's actually, it's actually disgusting.
Starting point is 01:06:33 It's actually disgusting. And what I see Charlie Kirk in body, you guys say he switched up his ideology and was like against Israel. He was sucking Israel's dick for the tenure of his career. For a while. He was anti-fucking Palestine to not give a fuck about kids' dogs. lying on Gaza? What the fuck is y'all saying? You don't care about him dying or his kids.
Starting point is 01:06:50 So what makes me think you care about the kids in Gaza? Stop lying. Because his life, so guess what? People want to mock those lives being lost and I'm a mock his. L.O.L. smoking on that Charlie Kirkpat. No. No.
Starting point is 01:07:03 What you say, so what I'm saying is, take it right in the name. What I'm saying is hard to breathe. It's hard to breathe. Fuck that fool. Say that fool that. Say it again. What did you say?
Starting point is 01:07:15 What did you say? What did you say? I said, fuck that fool that fool that fool in anyone the same with it. Why is it fuck me? Not you. What did I do? Monetization.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Look, look, I'm going to tell you why I'm still standing with him. The same, look, I didn't agree with everything he said. I did. I didn't agree with everything he said. You agree with everything he said. That's crazy. Okay, so look, I don't agree with everything he said. Fuck Charlie Kirk as a shot record label names.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Why, you interrupted Caseland. He didn't just hold you like I did. Let him talk. You ain't hold nobody. You ate too many ho-hoes and broke the chair. You want this? You want this, Mike? He got a mic.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Go ahead. My bad case, Slim. My bad guy. I'm talking to one mic, man, you know. So look, I don't,
Starting point is 01:07:54 I don't disagree with what you're saying. I don't disagree what you're saying. But what I'm saying is, I don't feel like you should be killed over your opinion. Of course not. And that's why I don't agree what you said
Starting point is 01:08:08 with the bar that you made because you would have never made that bar about Nipsey right away like that. Of course, because I respect Nipsey. But it was, just like he said, whether it's wrong or not, I did it. You feel me? I know.
Starting point is 01:08:22 And that's what I'm saying. That's what he said. No, that's what he said to his Mexican friends about the Pfei shit when nobody's around. He fucks up. He's all right. That's true. That's like me.
Starting point is 01:08:35 But we can make personal attacks. That's how you know you're losing an argument. That's like me saying to rip the sheet. Hold you out like a bitch. What you did. What you did. Hold you out like a bitch. and he was a black guy
Starting point is 01:08:49 on the Pan-Africanism movement I wouldn't say nothing like that though because that's some bitch-ass shit you're saying I would I say what? But I wouldn't say nothing like that come on, bro. Y'all think it's crazy. Look, look, look, look.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Let's get to the moral point. Do you think that? Obviously, obviously, yeah, the coquistador is back there. Hey, Avi, look, bro, I got my 23 and me results. Pending. You got the results?
Starting point is 01:09:16 Pending. You black. Yeah, what we're going to see. We're going to see on that. We're going to see on that whole. The N-word pass might change pretty soon. No, no. Don't do that, Lush. Stop it now. You're going too far. I've been encouraging to say it.
Starting point is 01:09:29 I never took it. This is my sense of humor. Say it right now. Say it anyway. This is my whole point. This is my whole point. I never took a 23 in me. That's my sense of humor.
Starting point is 01:09:38 That's why I said that. It was a tasteless joke. Just like the Charlie Kirk joke I made was tasteless. But I said it because I don't like, bro. Now, is it janky? Is it wrong? What happened? Is it horrible?
Starting point is 01:09:47 Is it a political assassination? We already preface the conversation with that. That's his opinion on Charlie Cush. That's how I get it. It is what it is now. Now, really my main thing is I don't like the divisive nature of it being this partisan thing
Starting point is 01:10:01 because I think extremism in any form is wrong. You feel me? Whether you're a liberal extremist with your fucking hair painted and six different genders and a fucking poodle up your asshole fucking talking about
Starting point is 01:10:13 I'm trying to infiltrate sports or whatever or whatever, or you're a little. a staunch fucking Republican, like, Brandon or all the hillbillies that he fucking condones and and tries to appease at the end of the day. Like, you're
Starting point is 01:10:26 it's not either extreme, honestly Brandon's not an extremist. He's way more centric. He knows what a conservative extremist looks like. It looks like the person that shot Charlie Kirk. Because you know, damn well, there wasn't, no... Charlie Kirk was shot by a conservative... Most likely. Most likely.
Starting point is 01:10:41 You want to know why... Why do you think that? Because you don't know no pussy-ass liberal. has good enough aim to hit a carotid artery from over 250 yards away. That's the line. You know that. There's plenty of military trained.
Starting point is 01:10:54 There are plenty liberal. Listen, look at the statistics. There are attorneys in the army, bro, in the military. Hey, it might have been a liberal. You're right. It was the whole point. Fuck whoever did that. They said a bad precedent.
Starting point is 01:11:06 You feel me? And you continue with the bad precedent by disrespecting the matter. But I don't fuck. Don't shake this thing. He'll shake my hand. Oh, he just press you. He said, don't shake his head.
Starting point is 01:11:15 I was like, I'm like, I'm going to get too heated, man. This is like you're actually good podcasting. He perpetuated the narrative when he threw out the, that's a new one. When he threw out the insensitive bar about Charlie Kirk. That's a fact.
Starting point is 01:11:31 You, you help. I don't care either. Listen, you help. You help to try to minimize the situation. Lush is a double agent, bro. He will say anything he has to say to get you to lower your guard.
Starting point is 01:11:43 If I wanted to appease, y'all, trust me, I could have been like, yeah, that was Jankey, yeah, you know, R-R-Peter, bro. But he died. No, if you just want to keep it real, if you want to keep it real. Yes, and that in another essence, he died for what he believed in. That's why I compared to Nip is. A man died.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Yeah. And died. Whether you agree with everything he say or don't. Shit, he believed people should die too to do the gun violence. He did. No, he definitely. Nipsey believed people should die too. Hold on, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:12:10 No, no, no. Nip never said that. But Crete made, hold on, hold on, hold on. Crete made a good point, though, because, because I just see a clip where Charlie Kirk was saying, hey, gun violence needs to happen so we can have our rights after that. Like, we can look at the outcome and be like, hey, we got,
Starting point is 01:12:22 he said a certain number of people need to die a year due to gun violence so we can. So we can. Yeah, sounds like a real humanitarian, RIP, bro. Listen, y'all don't. You know, Hitler was kind of misunderstood, Doug. Let's not get into the Hitler conversation, because I got a lot to talk about that.
Starting point is 01:12:40 We don't want to do that. We don't want to do that. Don't talk about my girl. I'm just kidding. Right. No, I don't say. You got something to say, though? No, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:12:48 No. Die by what he believed in. No, listen. I believe that. What we're doing right, what we're doing right now is we're taking a lot of what Charlie Kirk said out of context, and I understand to actually entertain the liberal mindset. You have to be willing to live in cognitive dissonance and purposely misconstrued people's statements.
Starting point is 01:13:09 What he's, what Charlie Kirk was saying was, in order to maintain, your Second Amendment rights, you're going to have to be comfortable with a certain number of gun deaths. Because as long as you allow gun ownership in your society, there is going to be people. And I agree. Wait a minute. I agree.
Starting point is 01:13:24 I agree. I agree. I agree. Do you see how you interrupt me every time. Yeah, but go ahead. Go ahead. Look. So, so every time.
Starting point is 01:13:29 I thought we'd like now. Come on. Come on. Come on. So if you have guns in your society, people are going to get, there are going to be people who will get access to to guns who shouldn't have them, right? Look at the gang members and all that stuff. It is very hypocritical for black people to be like,
Starting point is 01:13:45 Charlie Kirk lived his words. He died by his words because he said we got to be comfortable with a certain amount of gun deaths. But then when somebody get murdered in the hood where niggas is running around, waving switches on camera, we say, man, we got to do something about this gun violence. He did not the hardest last two words of all time. We're changing our opinion. He's a gang violence.
Starting point is 01:14:07 We're changing our opinion based on who's saying something. And that's when you know that your own. the wrong path. Charlie Kirk said something that was absolutely true. Does that mean that Charlie Kirk deserved to die in a place? There is, violence is not supposed to happen on
Starting point is 01:14:24 college campuses. Everyone can agree. But when it's Charlie Kirk, oh, it's okay because he said this, that, and the third. These people are just inhuman. They don't care about life. That's the same person who's criticizing Charlie Kirk is cool with black babies dying by the millions. The same
Starting point is 01:14:41 person is cool with death as long. as long as it's in the name of what they think is right. Brandon, they're not condemning death across the board. Do you, Brandon, do you feel like, do you feel like Charlie Kirk was debating him? In the majority of the clips you've seen of him, he was debating with his intellectual equal? No, Charlie, Charlie Kirk gave a stage to people who had opinions, but they really didn't understand the opinions that they had. They just had opinions because they have been programmed.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Right. Okay. So is it safe to say that he basically made a career off of horrendous? rage baiting and click farming off of semi-autistic liberal college students. Well, no, I mean, hold on. I'm talking about, talking about, you can't, listen, you can't, you can't, you can't, no, hold on, no.
Starting point is 01:15:22 But look, you can't just judge them and call them semi-autistic, bro. Oh, no. There were students. And, like, he made, all right, tell me about, guess what? Guess what? I thought that we, I thought we're conservative. So we're going to now use some soy. You thought we were conservative?
Starting point is 01:15:34 Some soy baby fucking, fucking, uh, liberal logic. We're going to start policing words that I fucking said. I said what I said. But you said that all autistic. . Me up. I'm not being you? This is directed towards the matter.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Like, look, I said it because I feel like that's what's going on. When I said autistic, being someone that's on the spectrum, myself, by the way, you feel me? So just to keep that in his context, keep that in his context, you feel, like a lot of people don't have the same social awareness. They're not able to really formulate their thoughts. Like he said, he's talking to novices. He made an entire career off of talking to people that were dumber than him.
Starting point is 01:16:09 No, but not. Flexing on them. College students. And that's all What does that mean exactly? You call them college students Autistic
Starting point is 01:16:17 Yes I think there's a large Did you go to college? Yeah, no I did not So how are you going to say that They're autistic Because I've been on college campus As fucking hos for decades
Starting point is 01:16:25 Hold on You're just Hold on First of all you're just being a rebel right now No what are you talking about I'm speaking back to the main point A person in college I've been a rapper
Starting point is 01:16:32 A person in college I've been a rapper for fucking 25 years A person in college Obviously past a certain point of education That's how you get there Yes So you can't call them autistic If you haven't even
Starting point is 01:16:41 went to college. Oh, but I, but I've seen the debates. Now, and I've heard of 10, I know that there's a huge portion of them that are on the spectrum of regardless. What are you talking about? Hold on, time out. I'm going to tell you what I'm talking about if you listen. Them people who's taking them podiums, that means that
Starting point is 01:16:57 they have an ideal that they're trying to express. Correct. They're not autistic. They're just trying to get their That's why they're semi. Listen, but they're trying to get their ideal across. Obviously that smelled the spectrum. Obviously, but he's correcting them. Takes one to no one. This thing's crazy. But obviously he's correcting them.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Just because they're wrong. Smoking these kids' boots. I know, but listen. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. But just because he's making the right statement or giving them the right answer, doesn't mean that they're autistic. It just means that
Starting point is 01:17:24 they're wrong. It's disrespectful. I understand. You're right. You're right. And I'm not dishing. It's disrespectful. You're disin American college students.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Yes. They're on your ass. Yes. They're all dumb as fuck nowadays. They're all fucking nepo babies. He's disrespecting. Autistic people because autism is a developmental disability that you, that means you're born with this. So you know, no, no, neurodivergence is not necessarily a disability.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Look, you're already mischaracterizing it. Listen, no, you just, no, I just cooked him. He just, he just, he just, he's trying. He's not letting me get my point out. He can't, because you already fucked up. You already fucked up. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Bear yourself. You didn't say he's cooking neurodivergent people. You said borderline autistic people. Autism. is a developmental disability, meaning you're born with it, and you can't do anything about it. Not necessarily. Charlie Kurt.
Starting point is 01:18:15 It is a wide spectrum and it's not necessarily referred to as a disability. Charlie Kirk, in fact, that's very fond of power. Charlie Kurt is giving college students who have many opinions a platform to express those opinions. To talk to him. And he's showing the world. And he's showing the world. And he's showing the world that just because someone has an opinion that nine times out of 10, they would spew across social media
Starting point is 01:18:41 does not mean that that person has solid evidence that what they're saying is actually true or factual and repeatedly we see that the college students have been programmed. You could also have a heart and not be a bitch. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:18:57 Yeah, what does that mean? That doesn't mean shit. No, no, no, no, it means everything. Is we finished or is we done? No, I mean, all right. No, listen, what it means is this. What it means is this, having a heart, aka what y'all refer to as being liberal, is a huge umbrella.
Starting point is 01:19:16 You know what I'm saying? Being a Democrat does not necessarily mean that you have to, being a liberal does not mean you have to be a Democrat. Having compassion in regards to social issues in regards to, you know, reparations in regards to things like border patrol, things of that nature. And the way I look at that doesn't mean I don't believe in us having gun rights. don't believe that I want my daughter to have to fucking fight trannies. You feel me? Like, like,
Starting point is 01:19:44 I don't agree with these, the hard left ideology or the hard right. From what I've seen, he would, I've never, you could have a heart and not be a bitch. So I've, it's not exactly a partisan issue at all times.
Starting point is 01:19:55 From what I say from his clips, lush, I never seen him disrespect anybody. I never seen, besides him calling the C.H. Word to Asians. I'm talking about, find a clip of me saying that about Asians.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Like 90% of the clips that I've, that I've watched. I'm not saying he didn't do it. I'm saying I never seen like a lot of the popular clips where he was disrespecting somebody in the colleges. Like I never seen it. That's what these, but what you got to understand is that that's what these people live on.
Starting point is 01:20:26 They, their whole game, liberals. The whole liberal, the whole liberal game is crazy. The whole liberal game is this. We murdered somebody. But somehow the person who we murdered is worse.
Starting point is 01:20:39 We don't know that that's a racial slur. There's nobody. That's not confirmed to be a liberal shooter. And if we can't get that, we don't feel about every point you make so it can't get communicated. But listen, but you're saying impactful information. Charlie Kurt is worse than the person who murdered Charlie Kurt. He's worse than the people who are celebrating Charlie Kirk's death because he said a racial
Starting point is 01:20:59 slur. While we sit up and celebrate people who use racial slurs nonstop in their music, we celebrate people who advocate killing. It's just hypocrisy, bro. Just because you're cool with this dude saying super disrespectful racist things and saying the civil rights movement. Just because you're cool with this fool saying super racist shit and saying like the civil rights movement set black people back. And you're cool with it. I believe the civil rights movement set black people back and I'm black.
Starting point is 01:21:28 That doesn't mean that that's the consensus of the black majority just because you think that. But what I'm telling you is I'm not saying I'm cool. I'm not saying I'm cool with none of that. I'm saying that one thing a person says or even 10 things a person says is not the, the sum of who they are. Just like when you screamed that you were going to kill Sharp that day. Are you a game with a personal attack?
Starting point is 01:21:45 Let's play that video at this dude's funeral. Just like, no, it's not a personal attack. Come on, bro. It's a legitimate. No, it's not going to kill Sharp. I don't want to kill Sharpe. If we are unless his funeral,
Starting point is 01:21:58 would it be appropriate for me to play that video and it's like, Sharp, how are gonna fucking get it? No, but fools. Hold on, guys. Hold on, hold on, so we got a clip right here.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Charlie Kirk, I'm sorry, Charlie Kirk, talking about gun violence is needing let's play that real quick this your boy right here Doug we got headphones everybody got the headphones yeah you take it y'all get had that I already know this fool
Starting point is 01:22:22 yeah I know what's going to say this this J-Cats says Jake that's wow see he got beef with Charlie Kirk I do think he is suck here go ahead brother we can't hear nothing that's not playing yet
Starting point is 01:22:37 it was playing I don't he's going to turn it up right now We weren't to prepare to use this room. See, the tables so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year, so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.
Starting point is 01:23:08 That is a prudent deal. So I don't understand why that's something. We already knew that. I didn't choose that fucking clip. Somebody used gun death on his ass to goddamn. It is ironic. They write for a boy to be a girl. This is the, listen, this is the assumption.
Starting point is 01:23:27 This is what we're doing. We're taking a bunch of liberal snowflakes and they're trying to protect how they. Y'all seem like the snowflakes right now, though. How they think of how they feel. I want to Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk understood just being there. There's a chance that some deranged person could kill me. That's why he has security.
Starting point is 01:23:43 He understands the risk that comes with what he's doing. Bro stood on what he's saying. These people are trying to make you, this is the programming. This is the sciop right here. They're trying to get you to believe that Charlie Kirk is worse than the person who killed. He's not. He's not. But Charlie Kirk ain't never killed no fucking body.
Starting point is 01:24:03 He just used this work. So that's not going to work. Look, that might work on the Tuesday. That's not what we're saying. That's not what we're saying, though. That's not what I'm saying. The person was killed. it's not worse than the person who killed
Starting point is 01:24:14 while screaming that they're an advocate of peace and the judges are tolerant. I mean, but you could say, I could say I'm a fucking, the fucking prince of Zimbabwe it doesn't make it true. He's definitely not an advocate for fucking truth and peace or whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 01:24:28 He's conservative ideology. His name has 1776. He's a symbol of fucking white Christian nationalism. 1776. Yes, his Instagram, his Instagram name. What's wrong with 1770s? That's the year that America was founded.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Okay. That's a colonial. Yes, I love America. It is a great country. Why don't you put Zimbabwe and see how you like it over here? But why would you make 1776 as an argument when that's a good year? Because let's make, oh, why is it a good year? Yeah, shit, that's just what when we fucking, it's cool.
Starting point is 01:24:57 That's when the stone was saying, right? It's cool that we knock the fucking British people out the box, right? You feel I mean? That's just ignore. And the Indians. No, no, yeah, exactly. That's totally chill. Belt to ass.
Starting point is 01:25:07 That's not chill, actually. That's junkie is when we did the natives. fucking colonialism. That's imperialism. Y'all fuck with that shit. That's on y'all. I don't fuck with that shit. What?
Starting point is 01:25:18 I don't fuck with that shit. Listen, I listen, before I'm a Korean, I'm American. Right. You feel me? You don't get.
Starting point is 01:25:23 That's one thing people got to understand. I love America. Liar. I love America. But I doesn't, I love America so much that I know my rights is an American. And those are unalienable
Starting point is 01:25:32 and I'm allowed to talk shit. We're not going to kill you because you talk to. I don't need to exactly. I don't know. Did y'all see no jumper building? Because, you know, We don't know if no sniper is out there. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:25:40 We got to watch. I don't need to. I don't need to suck Trump's cock like Brandon. You feel me? I know my rights is an American. I could pop my shit. If I don't like it, just like y'all can. Guess what?
Starting point is 01:25:52 We all could. And one of the reasons why is because what? The civil rights movement. Lutz don't die before me. I'm playing that clip. Sorry, I'm going to kill you at your funeral. I'm going to get that shit on myself. There's no.
Starting point is 01:26:03 There's me choking in freestyles. There's me choking in freestyles. There's all kinds of shit that's going to get played when I die. But guys, do you. But guys, do you guys think... Every person that dies, every person that dies in my life is a pact to somebody.
Starting point is 01:26:14 There's one... It's a joke to somebody. It's a fucking L-O-L. No, I don't believe that. What are you talking about, bro? My homies be dropping, that's a fucking joke. I see the post.
Starting point is 01:26:22 Let me ask the question. So... What are you talking? I didn't say you... But people make jokes of that. Lush, Lusch. People make light of that. Every single day.
Starting point is 01:26:29 So you think I give a fuck... People are in the bitch-hast racist rule that was popping it on... Lush. So when Nip died, would you had that same day, say, Why would I have?
Starting point is 01:26:39 Because I respect Nip. So you just don't respect this man? Clearly. But I wouldn't have made that joke because I don't respect him. But it doesn't mean that I want him to die or I know what he had happened to him. That's the best thing to be horrible. I have enough moral compass to know that it's horrible. And I don't like the precedent that it sets.
Starting point is 01:26:54 Yo, Mara don't tell you not to say something. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. That's what I do for a living. That's what I'm going to do until maybe I get shot in my neck. Let's get, let's get all the time. Die on those words. You feel what I?
Starting point is 01:27:07 Let's quickly go around. Do you guys think that a foreign agent killed Charlie Kirk? Yes. Like someone's a representative from another country? Yes, I think, I personally think that, I'm just going to say it. I think the IDA has something to do with it. IDF. IDF, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:21 I think definitely, for sure. I think it was somebody who didn't believe in what he said. I think it might have been a person who was transgender, somebody who might have, he said a lot of things. By the way, the bullets did have transgender scratches in it. Oh, okay. So I didn't know that. So so far, we got the Jews and the trainees.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Just make sure. Blame the Jews and the trainees. What's next? I think it was, it was, it was somebody who didn't believe in something that he said on a clip. That's what I think. Liberal Jew, liberal Jew, liberal Jew, liberal trainee, Jew. I think kind of like, kind of like him. And, you know, I didn't know until you just said the transgender thing, but I think it go back to that into that clip.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Like, it's just like basically. somebody used they got damn gun right to kill your ass so you didn't push forward to tell that boy that he can't tell himself he a girl
Starting point is 01:28:17 you said gun violence have to be gun deaths are necessary so you can continue to exercise your other given rights it's a right right now until they make it illegal for a man to say he a woman
Starting point is 01:28:31 so with people like you pressing the issue that he can't be a woman no more he exercised his gun right to get to get your ass up out the way so he could continue to exercise I hope it's not a fucking training.
Starting point is 01:28:45 So you think it's a transgender. Yeah. What do you think, love? I think that if I had to guess it took a while stab in the dark here, all right? I was going to ask you to go first, but you know, but for the sake of grace
Starting point is 01:28:59 and brevity, I'll say this. There's a thing that happened. There's more documents released in the whole Epstein thing. You feel I don't know if y'all heard about that you heard about this guy yeah i've seen documents personal book his birthday book or something yeah yeah well was a direct quote that uh are number 45 4 45 about 7 infosev like what he's he's like he's like it sounds like a cripset or something it's like he's two different blocks yeah yeah he said um too many fun filled days of secrets what did you say more many more great secret days
Starting point is 01:29:33 something like that right that was crazy thing to have a none of us are talking about that shit though who do you think it was why did you just change the subject I think I think it was us I think America did that shit until I pull out to distract from the fucking Epstein shit
Starting point is 01:29:52 you think that kill somebody for a distraction hell motherfucking yeah like oh because he's really like to me I never realized and I feel like this is the power of social media I didn't realize that Charlie Kirk was as prominent of a voice within the conservative community
Starting point is 01:30:07 as he was like you feel me i didn't realize like he's up there with candace owens and you feel me like yeah okay by the way we got hey please please protect candace owens yeah exactly like it don't whatever whatever yeah i agree don't kill nobody but like she candace owens we need her feel me we need her hear me out kandis owens i think everyone believes that it is it's a transgender person of course that's a speculation but then you get you just told us that there was certain things, certain evidence that points to that. The last three real heinous shootings have been transgendered. And what's crazy is the transgender, the transgender people, one of their biggest things is that everyone is trying to kill them.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Everyone wants is dead. Everyone else is dead. I don't see anything in the news where transgender people are getting killed, no lone gunman targeted transgender people. So it's a lot of projection. And I think that fear is a powerful thing. Damn, they're going to blame a random trainee to set legislation. And transgender. It all ties into the Minnesota shit.
Starting point is 01:31:11 I see. I think that. Yeah. I think that's janky. There's a level of mental illness that occurs within that situation. Yeah, see, that's what this is about. And I think that they're going to, it has to be addressed because now. Wait, in what situation?
Starting point is 01:31:23 With the whole transgender stuff, you think it is mental illness. You think you're definitely a mental illness. You think you're not what you are. So the whole thing I'm saying is these people are more susceptible to being radicalized and now because of fear-based programming they are now going out acting in the name
Starting point is 01:31:43 of their fear. They're acting based on fear and it's touching I mean dude they're shooting up schools with little kids man they're not even they're like the homie sticks and stones shout out to sticks and stones for the shirt. We can't blame this on the trainees yet. No no this is what my this is what my boy
Starting point is 01:31:59 sticks and stone said today. He said bro they're going after soft targets little elementary schools, Catholic schools, Charlie Kirk on a college campus, it's like they're going after people who they know won't shoot back, can't retaliate against them,
Starting point is 01:32:14 and I just think it needs to be addressed. I'm not saying they're getting into camps. I'm saying that this needs to be addressed. These people really need to get the help that they need instead of doing what we've been doing lately, which is affirming care. No, this person has an issue mentally,
Starting point is 01:32:30 that needs to be treated accordingly, not a perpetual. So this is like a big conservative talking point right now, apparently, and a lot of the times... Why do you have to be partisan? I'm kind of on the fence about it. I see it from both sides. I do think that like... Break Ocean.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Oh, my God. I think there's only one side he sees it from... I see both sides like Chanel. Hey, don't act like that song. I definitely love the... It's a banger out there. The Channel Orange album is amazing. Banger, you know, like...
Starting point is 01:33:00 One of the greatest albums in history. What you were saying? With that being said, like, I think that, um, like, it's pretty easy to, to weaponize and make it a partisan thing because, like, off rip, this has been a major talking point for conservatives recently. After the shooting in Minnesota and people were like, we don't take, well, no, there's Minnesota as well. Tennessee was the first one.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Yeah, Tennessee was the first one. But, like, okay, so now there's been two incidents, just like keeping things in perspective. We can't give them the hat yet. I just saw a video of a mother fighting a transgender who was trying to go in the bathroom with her daughter. Did you all the bathroom shit? I think all the bathroom shit, I'm fucking... Even with the sports.
Starting point is 01:33:45 This is a bipartisan issue, actually. I'm Ronald Reagan when it comes to that shit. I'm not fucking with no, like, hey, bro, like, you feel me? No little girls should have to share a bathroom. But I don't care if you think you're a turtle or a fucking squirrel. Like, I don't give a fuck. If I quack right now, am I a duck? No.
Starting point is 01:34:04 With that being said, what I believe I'm a duck, I have a mental illness. With that being said, what these people are doing right now, they're trying to bring validity to the fact that, oh, transgender should have to have their second amendment right revoked. It should have to gain and have to prove competency in order to have the second amendment. That's like what the, that's the legislation that they're trying to put into effect. There's people with mental illness. It's people with mental illness. You can't look at them like, oh, transgender people are losing their right to say a minute. No, people with a mental illness are losing that because that's already a woman.
Starting point is 01:34:41 This is specifically classifying transgender as a mental illness. Do you think transgenderism is a mental illness? Could I do? Damn. I got to be honest. I got to be honest. Like, okay, listen, listen, I would have to say it's definitely not a favorable circumstance. Do you think it's a mental illness or not?
Starting point is 01:35:02 I don't know. DSM, dude, straight, but on the books. Yes. Okay. Thank you. We all agree on that then. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Yes. Yes. But, but, but, but, but. So, with a second amendment, but, but, but. But, but that's like, so with the second amendment, should a mental person be able to have the second amendment? So I'll say this. I'm not a doctor to be able to classify what determines mental illness properly.
Starting point is 01:35:27 Do I really in my, do I, do. What determines the amendment? So what I believe, what I believe is when people are trans, right, they're clearly, and they'll have to concede this as well. They're born into a situation where they have to have a medical procedure, take hormones, you feel me, and undergo, like, a transformation in order to become what they feel in their heart, you feel me, right or wrong. Hormones cannot change your chromosomes. You consider that a third gender? If it's two genders, hold on. We live on Earth.
Starting point is 01:36:01 There's only two genders. That's it. X and X, Y. What has X Y chromosomes? A man. What has X, X, X, X, chromosomes? Them, then how is. I mean, right, hold on, but that right there defines the difference between a man and a woman.
Starting point is 01:36:17 So in the middle, that's a mental. I'm not here to, like, push the line for, like, like. Yeah, you are. You're pushing the line. Well, okay, so since I'm thrusting. That's what Charlie is. Right. So since I'm thrusting that position, pause, you feel?
Starting point is 01:36:29 Me, like, what I will say is that I don't believe in there inherently being something mentally wrong with somebody just because they are trans. Now, they might have a mental disability. That doesn't mean that there's something mentally wrong with them. Because we're using, like, semantic medical terms at this point. No, there is something mentally wrong, psychologically wrong with them. Very often, but not necessarily. And a lot of that has to deal with, like, societal issues. It's an identity issue.
Starting point is 01:36:58 I'm not here to push the agenda for the trans, but I just don't fucking... If a pigeon is walking around trying to bark like a dog, but at the same time, identity is you know what it is? You know what it is? I just have compassion. I'm not a fucking shit kicking redneck full.
Starting point is 01:37:12 Like, that's it. You know, when I was young... But compassion is different from intelligence. Facts. Correct. So you know the difference. Even though you having compassion, you still know the difference
Starting point is 01:37:22 between a man and a woman. Yes, of course. You feel me? Like I said, I'm not... I'm not one of these liberals pushing the lines like trying to... be like, oh, like, let's give fucking Rupall the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:37:32 You don't know what? You're doing. You know what? All right, guys, we got to, we got to pivot off of this one because we're out of time. I feel like what we did was. Austin White walking out of a HBCU campus Tugalo.
Starting point is 01:37:45 Yeah, that's a, that's a great topic. That's a great topic. On a final note, jokes aside, RIP, Charlie Kirk, my condolences is to his family, you feel me? What's up? Even though you just put that Facebook call.
Starting point is 01:37:57 Too late, you're already going to hell. No, yeah, but shit. He goes, and he goes to see you down there, too. If that's what, if that's, that would bring me to hell, I was already, you got to apologize for that bar. I'll watch this video, quick, boys. That's what I'm not in there. So, Charlie, like, I'm like, I can't have time to the baby.
Starting point is 01:38:11 We go back and forth. The old men say two black people don't have no business hanging with each other. Why? Because all they're going to do is all get into squabble. When they get through all this, they're going to feel nothing. They're not going to produce them. They're not going to manage it. nothing. They're not going to correct it. So why don't talk to black people?
Starting point is 01:38:32 Hmm. Hey. We're not arguing, Mr. White. We need plans. We need resources. We need alternative. We're not coming without turning to bait. We're going to be. We're going to be branded in a few years in the perfect world. I'm Jerry Swartz.
Starting point is 01:38:50 I'm very swiss for a guy. Get some goddamn money. Big down. Come on. You got to be a debate You know, y'all got an educated scholar College educated nigger talking street talk Criminal talk I wasted my time
Starting point is 01:39:11 I wasted my time Most educated the game What school is this? I'm not going to like Tuggleow I thought I was talking to tears I'm arguing with that does Not quite more house She's saying.
Starting point is 01:39:30 Damn by my people. Mr. White. The white fuck by people. I don't get it down by my people. You're right there, bro. You're right there. They're wasting my time, bringing me up. Oh, oh.
Starting point is 01:39:45 Damn, man. You're fucking with me by my people. Y'all don't even crap by child people. Go talk to your grandmobominy. We were so happy. They were wasting my time. Fuck racism. I don't believe in racism.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Get a card to Mr. White big dog. I don't believe men. God bless you all, mate. You too. You're too. Man, I don't get a dad. He's a nice guy. I went to a white school.
Starting point is 01:40:07 I went to a white school. Well, what happened? I don't give a fuck about the HBCU. Well, why are you here? Could they drop me here by mistake? I didn't know I was coming. No, this dude is funny as hair. He is, man.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Damn. You all right. You all over here, bro. Damn, Charles, to let the seats up. That shit was. Trousson talking. You know, he littered, though. He ain't got to let no seats up.
Starting point is 01:40:31 Hey, we got to start. Let me get a point of explanation on what happened. Exactly. I couldn't hear all of it. So Charleston White went to Tugalu University, HBCU school, what I like to call an ignorance factory.
Starting point is 01:40:45 He's talking to them about the community and the things that need to be done to get the community moving forward. And he's being really real, and matter of fact, with these people, really focusing on what black people can do to improve their situation
Starting point is 01:41:00 in their community. The students, because they're a product of HBCUs, they keep trying to deflect off of what Charleston White is saying and basically blame white people that, oh, systematic racism and oppression, the same old script, right? And it gets to a point where you just get sick, because I used to do stuff like that, like, run study groups and stuff like that. It gets to a point where you just start saying, look at these people who are in a privileged position of being
Starting point is 01:41:28 out of university, their parents probably aren't poor, they probably grew up with privilege, but look at these capable people saying when it comes to the black community, oh, there's nothing we could do because systematic oppression of racism. But if you take that same
Starting point is 01:41:44 black student from an HBCU and put them in a Fortune 500 company owned by a white person, that person will say, I need to do everything I can to move from the bottom to the top. I'm the CEO now, in 10 years. But they are unwilling to take that same approach to their own community.
Starting point is 01:42:01 When it comes to doing it for their own people, we can't do it. It's impossible. But when it comes to overcoming the odds for the white man to give you praise, like they used to say, niggas couldn't win a 100 race. Here come Jesse Owens. Now take that same person to be like, niggas can't open up a business their own neighbor. Oh, no, that's because white folks. Black people will go above and beyond.
Starting point is 01:42:23 They will beat the odds when it comes to personal accolades. I agree. but when it comes to community shit everything's impossible we can't do it systematic oppression and racism so he just got fed up and walked out of those So Charles said he was invited I'm sorry I'm saying
Starting point is 01:42:39 So Charles said he was invited to speak To the students but when he got there They had a moderator and another student seating at the table And it was framed as a debate Which he was never about Right So you probably didn't get paid enough
Starting point is 01:42:52 You feel I mean No I think what it was about snitch culture and hip-hop. Okay, it was a debate about snitch culture and hip-hop. But they brought him there on false presences. Yeah, no, I mean, I totally understand.
Starting point is 01:43:06 If he was brought, it's kind of like the Brandon Fade. It's like the Brandon Fade. He did the right thing. He got the fuck out of it. But here's the thing. Why, and I know Charleston got his money ahead of time, why would you bring someone there who is an advocate for the black community?
Starting point is 01:43:22 This is an institution of lower. learning, I will call it, but an institution of higher learning is a college campus. Why the fuck are you talking about snitch culture? That's a fact. That's 100% real. But it is with Charleston White, who has had a really like, not do I think they should have like... Why are college students trying to be street? Yeah, why are college students trying to be straight? Regardless, he shouldn't have been finessed into a debate.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Like, he has every right to walk out. But he doesn't think he's been a debate by a student. But I don't think that's a bad, like, topic. If they were going to have, hypothetically, a debate with Charleston White, that would be an interesting point. Imagine, because he's very... Luther King somewhere and being like, Martin, we came, we brought you here to give a speech to drop some knowledge on us. You just equated Charleston White to MLK, bro. I'm just saying, period.
Starting point is 01:44:05 Someone you respect. Imagine bringing Martin Luther King to drop some knowledge on you. And then when he get there, it's like, oh, we're not actually going to just let you drop knowledge. We're going to basically, we're going to basically refute what you have to say. And so we got this moderator here who's going to tell you to shut the hell up while this person talk. No. dude.
Starting point is 01:44:25 Hey, see, I'm Ritchie and Adam. Hey, just like, listen, it's just like, right, right, right, facts, facts. All right, Jay. That was it right, right, Jay. It's just like John Henry Clark said, my peers, I have conversations with my peers. Everyone else I teach. Charles O. Wyatt is a teacher to these idiots compared to them, and they're trying to dumb that down. Like, I just-
Starting point is 01:44:47 Why is it HBCUK on yours? Because I didn't know that. We lose our ignorance factories, bro. Okay. I'm interested in hearing more about that, but it's just a stark contrast to what you were saying earlier, right? Because if there is no segregation and Blacks were just, you know, were forced to exist as this class that wasn't even allowed to have the same proprietary rights,
Starting point is 01:45:13 et cetera, boating rights, et cetera. But guess what? We can make our own schools. It's called HBCUs. These are, we're going to teach ourselves. This is our own learning institutions here at Monastery. them. Is that not a stark contradiction to what he was saying earlier? If you went to a HBC, if you show you right, if you went to a fence, you want to
Starting point is 01:45:31 where's the wobbler? If you went to HBCU before the civil rights movement, you wouldn't have heard a single person talking about racism. HBCUs, Tuskegee Institute and all that. Those people were teaching black people the skills that they needed to be able to sell those skills to people who were willing to pay for them. That's what they were focused on. They were not focused on. Nobody was taking gender studies and nonsense that encouraged people to look at themselves as constant victims. That's what HBCUs are now. Back when real teachers were at HBCU's, real black men and women, they were like, look, F all that race stuff, you need to learn this, this and this so you can become a lawyer, a doctor, all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:46:15 Go to HBCU. The number one major is fucking sociology and this. But it's like that at all. But like most schools are like that, though. Like literally, most of our... specifically about it. No, I know, but like, but I think what you, I agree with everything you said.
Starting point is 01:46:28 Well, look, here's the thing. The goalpost needs to be moved because what you're, what you said applies to a much larger spectrum. You're talking about the inherent flaws in the collegiate system of America. That doesn't just, that's not just HBCUs. That's now. No, I guess maybe. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:46:45 So back in the day. But in 1975, Harvard was still a prestigious. Correct. That was primarily focused. on getting these people educated so they could go out and become the... There are schools that are agriculturally focused. I mean, like, when's the last time that, like,
Starting point is 01:47:00 Texas A&M, right? That's an agriculture school. When were they primarily focused on agriculture? How many foods are going there and becoming farmers? Yeah, because my son bought all the seats. I'm just saying, like, so it's like the whole... We're living in a different society. Society has shifted what defines education,
Starting point is 01:47:17 what defines the parameters of what makes somebody more fit to be on a high... Because really, we all know college, There's no institution that is respectable in America that would bring a guest to their school to talk about snitch culture. I never even heard of this school. I ain't going to lie, though. Like Harvard would not bring somebody to talk about snitch culture.
Starting point is 01:47:35 Like I said earlier, that's not exactly fucking Morehouse or Howard, or you feel me like, it's right there? But it's a college. It's right there. It's right there. It's not right there. It's not right there. It has the biggest Moorhouse and Howard.
Starting point is 01:47:46 You heard of that shit? But hold on, hold on. So you're telling me that just because it's an HBCU, it's not respected as Harvard? What? No, no, no. I was talking about other HBCUs. I'm saying that other HBCUs got,
Starting point is 01:48:00 you heard of Morales, I'm pretty sure. You heard of Howard before. I've heard of Tuckaloo. Okay, you heard of Tuggler. You might be more tapped in that. Most people might not could have heard of that. A lot of people heard of the other schools.
Starting point is 01:48:11 That's like saying you heard of Yale. You heard of Harvard. Have you heard of fucking Columbia? Yeah, a lot of people have. A lot of people haven't, though. They might not know that Columbia is another prestigious Ivy League institution. You feel me? like there's different levels
Starting point is 01:48:23 Who hasn't heard of Columbia, but go ahead. I mean, like shit. He's going to say, okay. No, I can say name all the fucking Ivy League schools right now. I bet you could. I definitely can. I keep myself. It's not an Ivy League school.
Starting point is 01:48:37 Drake University is an Ivy League school. Is it? No. Don't question your own. You got to step. You got a step right now. Pennsylvania University, Cornell University. Well, let's get to the point.
Starting point is 01:48:49 Princeton, Harvard, Yale. Occidental. these are fucking Occidental is not a fucking Ivy League school. Some of IE, chill out. He's trying to catch you with he, he's trying to get you with a trick back.
Starting point is 01:49:00 Back on paper for sure. What is it? Please stop. He gave me the N-word pass a long time ago. Would you say the N-Whorred in a freestyle battle? Go ahead and say, Mel. Man, quick, man, listen, we're going to stop that right now.
Starting point is 01:49:12 Yeah, let's make people uncomfortable on September 11th. What do you think, creep? Wait, today is the 11th? I won't creeps the pen. Do you think it was appropriate for them to bring Charleston right there, lied to him, and then try to talk about snitch like a goal. Absolutely not, yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:49:26 I think that they should have stuck to the subject matter, bro. That part. You feel what they told him he was coming for? Same shit, the bait and switch. Like, you know what I mean? Let me ask you a question, though. You think that for him saying that and for him walking out, should have been assassinated?
Starting point is 01:49:43 Wait, say that again. I'm not understanding. We got to go back. This all makes sense with the Charles Dirk's situation. All right. Say it again. him having that opinion of being like, you know what, fuck y'all, I don't care about y'all school and he's walking out.
Starting point is 01:49:54 Should he have been assassinated? If somebody felt strongly enough about a hell, should have pop his ass. He is not wavered on this dance all day. I'm sick of. No, but he stuck to his thing. That nigger said, fuck my people. Fuck y'all.
Starting point is 01:50:08 If somebody felt strongly enough about that, they should have popped his ass. But he should have to pop Charleston. Popped his ass. The same way they popped the other nigg in the neck. would have been right. I'm not in the business of talking about who right or wrong. I'm just telling what it is, gang.
Starting point is 01:50:28 That's just what it is, gang. He didn't said that, though. He said, he said, he's not waiting around the stance the whole day. Like, you can't do something and not expect a reaction. Charleston, um,
Starting point is 01:50:38 Charleston is different. We obviously all know that. Obviously, and at the end of the day, yeah, he got finesse in the situation. However, I will say,
Starting point is 01:50:45 if that was me that took that stance, I feel like there'd be a lot more fucking pushback. What? From the young Republicans. I mean, good as you, obviously. Yeah, exactly. Why did they chase this man? I'm not a Republican, first of all.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Yeah, but now you are for the sake of conference. I'm a Republican. But it's just like, I'm not a Democrat. You feel me? Why did they chase this man out with the... My thing is that they set Charleston White up, and then when he left, you see it's all females.
Starting point is 01:51:11 They chasing him out with the cell phones and all this stuff. It almost seemed like it was a clout chase. For sure. They knew they was going to piss him off. My nigga Brandon having flashbacks Yeah What the hell?
Starting point is 01:51:23 I got CTE Hey, but for real I can't believe I still can't believe Brandon even went to that fucking fade You should have known better Bro
Starting point is 01:51:31 We're not gonna go back to that man But listen man What's the next topic? What's the next topic guys? We wanted to do Woody Pause Why sell Woody say
Starting point is 01:51:38 He's going after a young thug If his daughter don't make a safe recovery Why was his daughter What is his daughter Yeah I was about to ask And why's his face all messed up Oh so he got into the
Starting point is 01:51:47 motorcycle I don't know what's going on. I watched the video. He's so crazy. Apparently, from Woody's perspective, Thug lied on him multiple times in his interview with Big Bank. And now he wants to crash out while the only thing is his daughter. So if something happens to her, he will no longer have anything holding him back from doing. Set a video.
Starting point is 01:52:11 I'm real pissed out. Because tomorrow my daughter got to get surgery. And God knows the Lord is going to put it. He's going to pull her through. He's going to protect her. But if my daughter wake up and she crying and I hear her cry, Doug, your bitch is going to be mad, boy. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:52:30 I'm real pissed out. I'm going to mind. That's good. I ain't going to hold you. I believe exactly what he's saying. We obviously know what happened with him and nut. He already admitted it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:41 Thug actually admitted it, too. Did y'all watch the Thug interview? Yeah, that was. I ain't going to do. Thug was a big manipulator in the line. 100%, but... You didn't watch it? Yeah, he was manipulating a lion.
Starting point is 01:52:55 You? I think with Woody... He was trying to spin, spin, spin. I think Woody is just tired of being truthful with himself and living as a snitch. And then looking at somebody that he pretty much did a lot of crime for, and the boy's manipulating him as being the bad guy. You know, he's like, he's like, what's the dude's name? That was Grisel de Blanco's fucking main shooter.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Ravi, right? Robbie? Yeah, Robbie. I watched that on Netflix. I think that was bro's name. I don't want to get it wrong. I think it was Ravi. It was something like that.
Starting point is 01:53:23 You feel me? But bro that he had like 15 hats for Grisela de Blanco and that full do in life. And he's been an interview. He could watch the Cocaine Cowboys Part 2 DVD to see interview with that full or just watch the Grisela on Netflix. There's a movie. Yeah. I watch it on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:53:37 The real life version of him, I swear, is like he like, he's the worst. Well, my question is she out of jail. She's not even in jealous. No, I think she's out. She's out. She died, right? Yeah, yeah. But she got out of jail before she died, if I'm not mistaken.
Starting point is 01:53:51 She did. Yeah, she did. Yeah, she wasn't in California somewhere. I mean, so. Well, she was fucking with a dude. What do you think he's mad about him? What do you think he's mad about him? What do you think it connects with his daughter?
Starting point is 01:54:02 Well, okay, so cryptic threats aside or this or that, or you know what I'm saying, that in the third, people are now just going to be popping in at Thug. And it is what it is. And all the people that he called Snitch, all the people that he had under their, under his thumb, and was using his social profile to demean her now getting their get back. Woody is for show got some lickbacks coming. However, from my perspective, and I know like certified guy to be calling no decisions like that,
Starting point is 01:54:31 but just from the fucking little nerd in the corner observing, he's still a motherfucking rat. You feel I'm the little white kid, whatever. He's still the biggest. Woody. I think the Woody. I like the way, was it Munchy that broke it down? Like the metal.
Starting point is 01:54:47 I forget it was maybe it was these are the medals of the rats in this situation. They said number one gold medalist was a YSL Woody. I think that's still pretty firm. In fact, there's really nothing that like Thug actually said that could be linked to an arrest. Now, he is a rat.
Starting point is 01:55:03 I'm not saying Thug, not a rat. I'm not giving him a way out. But there is nothing that. The only thing you could argue that Thug said that could be linked to an arrest is the fact that, what's pro name? Rasko
Starting point is 01:55:17 Rasko wound up doing time for drug charges when he has said and it was like years later after he fought the whole other case he wound up getting drug charges when and thug in that interrogation voluntary interrogation said this this guy
Starting point is 01:55:34 is with Wayne every day he's holding his drugs for him now I get you trying to he say I'm trying to spin him I'm trying to throw him off. He would never shoot I guess the street saying he would fucking shoot up That's the Torban. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:47 I guess no, but, yes, that's another place he went bad. Him doing it is another place he went bad to begin with, you feel me. But him saying that is a for sure violation. You're insinuating, even though I get in his head, like, I'm trying to manipulate the female interrogator, the detective. I'm trying to, I'm trying to flip her in it. And maybe he is that delusional to be. Whether you're not, you're still snitch.
Starting point is 01:56:09 You still told, bro. And you just didn't realize because back in 2015, the footage was. as much of a thing. Right. You feel like me? And especially if the person who's like the leader of the whole enterprise, which is Young Thug is saying it. That carries way more weight.
Starting point is 01:56:23 But I think that Woody is just looking for an excuse to go at Young Thub, but also I realize that Woody, he ain't got no damn job, and he really ain't got no damn skill to speak of. So I think this might just be a cloud chase. I think Brod just throwing some shit out there to kind of get some motion, right? Because if he say that, then somebody might want to call him in for an interview, give him a little $2,500 or $5,000 or whatever. So these dudes know how to work the internet.
Starting point is 01:56:50 They know. He got more than that. That's a crazy thing. Y'all way more than that. And Thug, I don't think, would take the threat serious at all. Because Doug even went out and said, Woody is really messed up mentally. He really takes medicine and all that stuff. I think this is all the play.
Starting point is 01:57:05 On Woody's behalf, his daughter had to go to surgery. Bro, probably ain't got no health care. He got to pay for this stuff. So I just think it's all. just for cloud and to get some motion going. It's an insane thing to say, especially if you're a bitch, no, like don't come from, if you come from my daughter,
Starting point is 01:57:22 if I hear a cry, thug, yo bitch ass going to be mine. I mean, and like contrary to that I've never seen, I never seen thug say anything about his daughter. That's what I'm saying. So I honestly think that he's dealing with some type of issue in his mind saying that, hey, my daughter's going to something
Starting point is 01:57:38 because of what you put me through with this whole case and situation. But he just said that. He just said if his daughter cried, meaning, I think he just like I'm going to take my aggression out on you and my daughter just just that. I agree with that. You know?
Starting point is 01:57:50 That recontextualized. Like basically you don't already came out and said what you said about me. I didn't respond to it. You know what I'm saying? Shit. This right here going to throw me over the edge and I'm going to just take my aggression out on you.
Starting point is 01:58:01 And I believe I ain't going to hold you. We know Woody. He's one of them guys. I mean, and I think, and I also think that Thug is sitting there and not really taking a threat seriously because obviously Thug can't go back to Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:58:12 He's out here now. I mean, like, Woody is one of them guys and one of them guys. That's what I'm saying he's one of them guys. Yeah, but also like the police. Like, he's one of them guys. Remember the scene in the movie Life, the cornbread scene and Eddie Murphy go off and and I don't know by even say cornbread.
Starting point is 01:58:32 He's just going crazy, right? Obviously, it had nothing to do with someone actually trying to take, like, he said, even if somebody even say to work. I'm just going crazy. He just, he basically said, don't give me a reason. For sure, yeah. Yeah, it's like, that makes more sense. I get it like, but that's still like, so basically like it kind of confirms my original
Starting point is 01:58:56 statement. He just like, thug, like, you feel me? If I even hear my daughter cry, I'm on your helmet. Yeah, like, fuck your old bitch. Thug better watch out for that boy. If we wake up and she wake up and cry, he basically said he's coming to get. Oh, dude, that's a crazy threat. Because this whole episode, there's like an undercurrent theme of like,
Starting point is 01:59:14 karma. You feel me? And accountability when it comes to your words and like, like, bringing your words to life. And I feel like this is another clear example. You feel me? Thug has stood on the hill of Rat K from day one. Like, I could wear a fucking skit. I got a fucking chopper in my skater. But I'm not a snitchie. Fuck all the stitches. So a ballad day saying, ooh. And he got his fucking long ass nails. Let me hear. Let me hear your young thug impression. You feel me like this? You feel me? That guy. Hey, that nigga, they got damn fool.
Starting point is 01:59:49 Hey, that song check by and my own. Thug got some hits. I love, I love Twain. I love Young Thugs music. And that's why this- You know what's crazy, though, I ain't told you, after this whole situation with him
Starting point is 02:00:01 with the bank interview, seeing the phone calls and seeing him in the interrogation video, I kind of look at this music different now. Yeah, exactly. But you feel like me? Like, some of it kind of still does. No, it's a bang.
Starting point is 02:00:13 He got bangers. But every time you talk about a rat, I'm sorry. I'm telling him with your bitches you say, we're a fucking banana boot. Look at you, thug. At the end of the day, a nigger's going to start looking at itself like a trophy. Like, he's the only nigga in that whole circle that really he put everybody on.
Starting point is 02:00:30 He created, like, everything you got I gave you. So when dudes get in that interrogation room and they start hearing football numbers and shit, they start thinking like, nigga, I'm the one who made all this possible. Why wouldn't I tell on this nigga who just, was a tag along or this dude who begged me to be a part of this shit. Because he was rat K.
Starting point is 02:00:50 That's the whole thing. I think that's a big that's a big thing. Yes. Nothing K. Right. But he was rat K though. He was definitely, he was definitely, he was never killed any rats. No, but in his music, but in his music.
Starting point is 02:01:00 But he was very like, okay. He could say a lot of things. But like he was very defined to anybody that was a rat. Exactly. He was a rat. It's called projection. Like, look out. Right.
Starting point is 02:01:08 Yes. Absolutely. But. Absolutely. That's the word. That's the key word. And you know, the funny. It's so funny.
Starting point is 02:01:14 It's so funny that you said. I saw it with a nigga out of skirt on. It's so funny. We shouldn't have trusted a nigga with a scurrying. It's so funny because we shouldn't trust a nigga with a skirk. This is my whole, bro. You got so-called straight OG gangsters
Starting point is 02:01:30 literally acting like they got to, I don't know if you're right. This nigger is a snitch, bro. Five, 100%. Here's a cold part. And prior to 2015, we never really heard Thug, being super vocal about rats
Starting point is 02:01:45 or anything like that. But in 2015, that's what he did that. He was already popping it like he was like, all 16 years or when I shot that chopper, you feel me? Like he's been talking about smoking fools,
Starting point is 02:01:58 been talking about blood this, slap that, you feel me from the beginning. He only said he shot a chopper. He didn't say he smoked nobody. I'm not going to like delve into the intricacies of his lyrics for the purpose of like incriminating him.
Starting point is 02:02:08 Exactly. But like with exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, don't say that. I'm not going to snitch if I do that. You feel me? It would be kind of federale. But with that being said, he switched this whole motif to being very vocal about rats after the time of it.
Starting point is 02:02:26 Not way before that even. Like it was 2015 around the time of that interrogation. We just ain't know about the interrogation. But like you said a minute ago, Brandon, uh, fucking, uh, projection. He was projecting after that because he was guilty because he knew he did bunk. Thug you did bad I think I gotta be all right
Starting point is 02:02:44 In that interview He said I knew this is going to come out Like I knew this is going to happen He ain't know this was going to come Yeah I ain't going to I don't think he did Especially with the phone calls too Think about this Were we seeing
Starting point is 02:02:56 Hella interrogation footage in 2014 20 was not like a big trend On the internet They asked that they're not release it If you ain't snitching Why are you asking them not to release the footage Of course Yeah
Starting point is 02:03:06 Because there is Because there is There is still a video of him in the back of a cop car talking to the cop, but they didn't put it in court and they haven't released it because his lawyer subpoenaed it or something like, I mean, I subpoenaed it. The shit we're never going to. The shit we're never going to see probably will blow our minds, bro. Just, bro, these people be snitch.
Starting point is 02:03:29 I mean, the way he was talking on the phone, bro, has to be telling a lot. You know damn well, people try to hold with like, you know, the big sad thing. That was such a huge deal. And everybody, like, pretty much, this is a dude. was poised to be probably the biggest rapper in L.A. You feel like me? He could possibly. For sure.
Starting point is 02:03:47 In contention. I mean, he is the biggest rapper in L.A. right now. I'll get that one. 100%. I just agree. Who's bigger than sad right now? I'll say that was a combo. He dropped the banger.
Starting point is 02:03:57 Yeah, he's hard. That is that guy. Yeah, he's hard. Like the biggest rapper in. I think sad is making the most numbers right now. But the situation with sad to me is a bit different, though. No, no, no. The fact that he took him to the hospital.
Starting point is 02:04:08 No, no. My point is that there's no way that that The 18 year old kid version of Sad when he was talking to the cops in that whole little situation, he never thought that footage was going to come out in his life. You feel me? There's no way because that shit wasn't happening. It wasn't a societal norm. It wasn't a YouTube trend.
Starting point is 02:04:27 Now, if Travis Scott gets pulled over for fucking, like, merging lanes incorrectly, that's just going to be on YouTube within 16 hours. But here's the thing. Right? Sad is, bro, like, someone got shot. bro took them to the hospital trying to say they like the police asking some questions in my opinion like these niggas try to smoke us fuck them
Starting point is 02:04:49 like why would I why am I getting held like they shot a I think they shot a lady right a woman yeah woman yeah you shot a woman pregnant woman pregnant female she's not a part of this she ain't involved in this and I guess he said the wrong car color he tried to shot her
Starting point is 02:05:04 but he said he said the wrong car color on purpose I'm not taking the sad as a stench and I'm yeah definitely I don't know no no I'm especially not taking it from a bunch of niggas who are straddling the fence about young thug being snitch. That's what I'm saying. So if you're going to, if you're going to. But niggas is acting like they don't know. You can't.
Starting point is 02:05:20 You can't call sad a snitch and not thug. Am I line? Are niggas not sitting up chipped-torn around the young thug being a snitchinging around the young thug being a snitch? That's crazy. Thug literally came out and say, hey, if you need the number, I'll call you when I need to. Thug snitch. I think thugs this morning. I'm not.
Starting point is 02:05:37 I told you he lost me where. I said, yes, ma'am. in court. Thug actually said, hey, so this is what happened. But, okay. Talking, he's talking to the police. But, but there's one thing real quick. But what he did
Starting point is 02:05:52 tell wound up being very substantial. He made a huge port for what Gunna told on was a big part of that case. This is niggas. Listen, they own sad because they hated on this nigger sad. They're not on Thug because Thug is not a local nigger. Oh, Sad did this. He's a stitch.
Starting point is 02:06:08 Thug did way worse. And I don't know. Bro, it's just selective politics. That's why I'm telling you. That's not the internet. That's these niggas. Like, niggins who are supposed to be
Starting point is 02:06:18 reptile is doing this. I'm looking at shit. Niggas. Oh, did Thugs this? Well, I don't know. I'm like, what? Yeah, thugs are right. I proclaiming myself.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Yeah. I'm not sure to say. What were you saying? No, creep. Go ahead, creep. No, I was just saying Thug lost me in there where he told them
Starting point is 02:06:33 when they was asking him, like, no, basically when he told the cops like, yeah, I'm not going tell y'all that it wasn't old boy so it don't hurt y'all case that's when you lost what is the fucking mean like
Starting point is 02:06:46 I hate to do this but I never You know We can We got a volleyball It ain't like we got No super chats
Starting point is 02:06:55 Because this is just recording Yeah no I'm not gonna Yeah I'm not gonna What's uh What other topics I think we good
Starting point is 02:07:02 bro I think we're good bro I think Thank you All the topics Yeah All the time It is the first time
Starting point is 02:07:08 We really went through all the topics Not, but, hey, beyond that. Clap it up for this being better than the Tuesday show. Okay. What's the same thing? Come on the Tuesday show this week. Hey, Brandon, go stay on that. That's why I'm fucking, Brandon.
Starting point is 02:07:19 The Thursday show is the best show. Thursday show to make show. No, I've spoken into existence. I said this Thursday show is going to become better than the Tuesday show. That part. I'll tell you this week, Tuesday show, we up. Y'all better come next week with some fire because this was way more fire than that should. And bring back flip on.
Starting point is 02:07:38 That's on. That's on. That's flip on. Adam going to turn on flip on. Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait, before I leave, because you know that whole beginning part, they're not going to get that, yeah. Bro, Lush, what is up with Adam turning on flip phone, my nigga?
Starting point is 02:07:51 He literally said that the Tuesday show will now have to be geared towards gang banging in the strong points of at Hefam, Munchy B. Like, what is wrong with this dude, Adam? You hired this man, and now you talk about he's not a good fit. I think that we should try to work with Flipmore. It was my opinion. Like, I've been said that.
Starting point is 02:08:10 Like I said the other day. Hey, yo, flip on, man. Listen, flip on. I'm telling you, listen, flip on. I'm telling you right now. You could be an audience member of the Thursday show. We want you to come over here and clap and have some fun. He signed a bad boy, this death row.
Starting point is 02:08:26 Listen, no. I didn't come on as a gas. That's a bad boy. This is the lineup right here, bro. But Ricky, I told you, stop being agreeable. with these niggas because you was all agreeable and did Adam turn on you. You might as well been smoking a nigga because he was
Starting point is 02:08:44 seven Adam be saying a lot of crazy shit that really you can really go at him and it creates a good like dialogue. That's why they call him Adam. When you're agreeing when you're agreeing with this stuff, now you look like you don't know what you're talking about. Wait, but why Adam turned on him
Starting point is 02:09:00 to begin with? I don't think Adam didn't turn on him. But why did you say Adam turned on? He fired him or something? No, look. Adam was like, is he not a good fitter as Adam Ross? Which one is it? Adam said, I don't think Ricky thinks he's a good fit for this show. I think he's ducking this show, and I don't disagree with that because it seems like this,
Starting point is 02:09:24 he basically was like, that show's not a good fit for him. And then he started saying the show has to be geared more towards like gangster shit, and Ricky's really not a gangster. But I'm thinking, oh, Adam, you're not a gangster either. Well, I mean, like, and I, and I, and I, definitely when he said that. I was like, he said,
Starting point is 02:09:40 so what Adam said, you're pretty much spot on with what Adam said, but he did, what he basically was saying is because we have Ann and Munchy, like,
Starting point is 02:09:50 because we have Ann and Munchy, it would be foolish of us to not delve into gangster content because we have these two reputables, you feel me, that are on the show and so respected. So we have to gear a bit of our content towards that.
Starting point is 02:10:03 While I agree that there's truth of that, I also believe that Munchy and, are capable of way more than just talking about that. And yes, they politic because that's the realm they came up in on as far as content. But I know that they're both capable of doing a lot more. They politic because Adam bring up the gang shit. And they was already politic and to be fair.
Starting point is 02:10:25 Ain't that right? Be like, man, I don't know. And then y'all, y'all, y'all, like it's like the same thing. This is big of bread in it. No disrespect to add at all. But I'm saying, listen, bro. No disrespect. Like have a disrespect.
Starting point is 02:10:38 This is not disrespect, bro. This is me recognizing a pattern. This is me said, and is an intelligent dude who can have a conversation about a lot of different things. And one of the things I pride myself on is getting people to who people may think don't have much to say about something to talk about the, I did the same thing with Hawk. Hawk came here. I was the one bringing up political shit with Hawk going. And he was like, yo, I got an opinion on that. He was cooking.
Starting point is 02:11:04 And Adam usually want to do that. Right. And Adam was like. Like, as we saw with ATM Richie, if you talk, one thing about Adam, shut up. If you shut up. If you saw something Adam doesn't know a lot about, he don't want to talk about it. Well, yeah. If you talk about bad podcasting, you can't just shut someone down if they're expanding the conversation beyond what you're familiar with or beyond what you are abreast of.
Starting point is 02:11:24 You just got to let it ride. Conversationally, I would 100% agree. But at the end of the day, it's his show. And he's going to do what the fuck he won. And if he don't like the way. Oh, you're falling in line. nah he's got nothing
Starting point is 02:11:37 he's falling in line oh man come on lunch you can talk back I get my no I talk back he's Montgomery birds and you're smithers laughing my ass off
Starting point is 02:11:49 but and I don't okay a good metaphor right man hey it's funny if you dig in the recycling bin you got
Starting point is 02:11:56 nah man that's the recycling bin we don't heard he already said that that's a that's an aluminum cam bro
Starting point is 02:12:05 Arizona, six cents of North Carolina. Come on. Hey, head-ass. He can't even come with some new material, brother. Hey, with that being said, no, I feel like Adam, it's like, it's not about me agreeing or not. If I disagree, I tell him, he ain't got to listen to me, though. It's his motherfucking show. He don't have me on there because I agree with him.
Starting point is 02:12:24 He has me on there because I'm great at what I do. Listen, he's not listening to a single thing I say, because just keep doing it, and then Thursday show going to be better than Tuesday show. I think we got the bad show in a week. Look, I'll say this. this Thursday felt better than this Tuesday and I'm objectively on both shows and I'll say that to Adam
Starting point is 02:12:41 you feel me it's not Tuesday K I'm not it's not to get far from Tuesday I'm not saying your head I'm not losing my job I don't check I don't text me to be a little bit less now you can't because because I am you feel me this is the heart and soul I'm the heart and soul
Starting point is 02:12:59 I'm a green on a war horse you're the blue you're the blue I'm a Sagittarius half horse half man with a motherfucking bow and arrow. Hey, listen, you all thought? Giro. Like, yeah. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 02:13:09 You got Goro with horse legs. If Ricky watches it, Ricky, man, you need to stop disagreeing with everything. Because it was one day, was he on the show with Suss and Ralphie when they was talking about the military shit?
Starting point is 02:13:25 It was something, Ricky was on a show, and Ricky made a actual, a factual point. And then, um, uh, what's his name?
Starting point is 02:13:33 Ralphie said something, in like, he contested the point he made. And then, then Rick was like, oh, yeah, I might have just got too excited. I'm like, bro, you were the one point.
Starting point is 02:13:45 You were the one speaking facts. This nigga was wrong as two left shoes and you let him, he basically bully you off your point. Like, come on, my nigga, like, I can't, I just can't let that ride. What's up, boys?
Starting point is 02:13:56 What that was a Thursday show? This shoe is lit. Creep the Guat Fee. That was the Thursday show, man. We got lush. We got creep. My brother. We got Brandon.
Starting point is 02:14:06 We got K-Slim. Hey, man. We'll see y'all next week. I'll y'all. K-Slimb. We like some thick because it's...

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