No Jumper - No Jumper Show Ep. 188

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

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No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. I'm in here rocking Fascianova, head to toe, feeling absolutely incredible about it. And I'm joined by, well, I'm talking like I'm doing an interview. This is weird. Why are you looking at me? Because if this was an interview, I would be like, I'm joined by my lovely co-host, AED. And today we'll be talking to a guy who's got a brand new mouthful of teeth. I like you.

And then this other scarecrow looking ass. Damn, I did it. They're going to have to edit me. Normally, I take some pride and not be in the one. That's what you get. You feel what I? Yeah. Bad podcasting.

Bad podcasting, man. Here we are. Lush. How's it feel? How's it feel to be from a five to a six? I feel like a regular... You wrote that? You wrote that before?

I was going to give them a four to a five. I went from a three to a nine. You talking about. Whoa. Let me see. Let me see. I got bobbed on my first day with this. Bob.

I got shows up on instantly. By who? By the dental hygiene? by about a four or five but it's all good. Yo, your voice is still. Did she say you had, did she say you still have, you had nice teeth? I don't think, I think it's more than the teeth.

I think it's a confidence that I exude. Well, because of the teeth. The aura of the, but. Yeah, it's like, you know, we're still doing that. We got, it's a, teeth now. T-shirts are now. They are, the t-shirts are out now.

I don't know if we ever said that on the show. Nojumber.com, you want a cobbot shirt. Beyond that, I've been on like, You know, I take psych meds and I was on like the wrong medication for the past couple months. Really? Yeah, I didn't know. What did you think it was doing to you? Making them delusional.

I was doing. Making them smell other people. I thought some of my coworkers had B-O. No, I was like a screen. No, that's me. I was just like dumb ass in my feelings like hell of emo and like being weird. But I didn't even realize it. I just thought that's how I was.

but then I got on my regular medication and I'm just like... You feel different? I feel better than all y'all. You feel stronger, more resilient? I just feel like a regular guy. Now you need a new rapping arc so that you can like show off

and you're like non-drowsy, drugged up flush. So you blame it? So you blaming the medication on how you was acting for the last six months? No, I like the last two months. Shit, your whole. He didn't blame the medication. Sike men.

Yeah. That's what your doctor called? Yeah, that. But you don't want to give out your dose? You're not going to tell us the official blend. Really, like, so I'm on this medication called Willbutrin. Oh, I used to be on that in high school. Yeah, but they, but the thing is, like, only for a little bit.

The dose I was on was making me tired. And then they gave me a little bit more. And now I'm just like, what's up? You feel me? I could genuinely say that during my wellbutrin period in high school, which might have only been like three, four months, that it was a big, mushy, blurry period of time that I don't, even at the time, like, let's say it was in 11th grade, I remember thinking about it like a year later in 12th grade and been like,

I definitely don't remember what the hell was going on, like for a big chunk of time. Like, it just made everything a blur. So your parents put you on psych meds. No, I got, I was like depressed or like I was doing terrible in school, whatever they thought, oh, we're going to give them this and it'll do better in school. Didn't work. TRL, you don't understand. Every white person born between 1978 and 1986.

Didn't use lotion and was on psych meds. Boom. Boom. Okay, I got it. I don't want to be white guys. Definitely not me. I was walking around with dry skin and bad mental health. I still don't use lotion, but...

Do y'all get eczema? Nah. I give it. I give it to other people. I could touch you and make you have eczema. It's like getting infected. I mean, but he's tested. You know what I can point at you.

Oh, I can point at him. He tested for everything. I like the ALB tattoo. You like it? Yeah. I'm gonna be I forgot about that I like that

A-O-B Yeah well Lush has new teeth So let's just No, I look good though man Pinpoint that Let's make sure that we track Anything that happens to Lush

From here on out We have to consider the impact of the teeth It's just the tops Wait till I get the bottoms When a woman tells you You have a nice smile It's gonna be over Confidence is gonna be

You have a really nice smile So I'm feeling myself We gotta get you on the meal pros You got a beard You got new teeth You're a whole different dude. I'm a join out here. I went back to my old interview,

like, not interview, where he was piled on back on figure and I looked at you, I said, damn that's ugly. What's up with this guy? He's over here to stay bully and he's trying to grind you down to a nub. I mean, him saying how you should be ugly, that's like he's a compliment.

This is T-Rail's version of being nice to me. No, this is what abusers do. This is how they gaslight you. They like kind of compliment you, but then they pull it back and they diss you at the same time, just so you know Is how what's going on this side of the couch? I ain't no snitch. He already told AD, like, watch how I gaslight him. You right, this is my way of saying, you know what I mean?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you know what I like that. I like that. I wish I had some teeth to fix. I'm not right, I think. I'm about to get my shit. The thing is now, like, I just don't care about what any of y'all say, so it really don't matter.

Like, down in that bad way. Oh, look, you're still going to find some, you're going to do some stupid shit this week. If you're asking us to hurt your feelings, I'm sure we got. figure something out. I give Lush, T-minus three days. He's going to put himself in another pickle. I don't want to check.

I'm sure we can figure it out. And if it's not us, you don't want to give the Reddit a challenge. Because who knows what they're going to think of. Stay out of there. I don't even read that. You know what Reddy, let's get on his ad. Even that seems like a challenge. I'm telling you all.

I'm telling you. It's Discord, right? I haven't even been on that shit. If I, if, yeah. Since you infiltrated and ruined the discord. What was you doing the Discord? Caused a lot of seeds of discontent. Really?

Hell yeah. With who? Give me some details. He infiltrated the Penguins' Lair. I don't even know who's in the Discord or who. I didn't even infiltrate the Penguins' Lair and it was like, hey. Yeah. Well, you have your own Discord called the Penguins Lair?

Nah. That would make sense. He basically, he's trying to make his own, you know. I'm trying to do shit. Discord community. The same thing. He said Falako was throwing all the Discord people. I didn't even.

He's there. I'm gonna do my own. People always are trying to tell me, like, what are you guys doing on Discord? I'm like, I don't know. We have one, but I'm not really, I'm not really like in there. Discord is actually like, cool.

Yeah. I don't know. My memory of the No Jumper Discord is like, it used to be, I would go in there and it would be so out of control. It would be like the chat section on here, the comment section where it's just not the chat, where it's just bough,

ba, ba, ba, just nonstop. You couldn't even begin to comprehend it. And then if you were to go look at it after not looking it for a few hours, it would just be so much that you couldn't even begin to like fathes. than what was going on. And now when I look at it, because I never look at it

because we never post it, usually there's like not much going on in there. It's all about the voice chat. You do the VC. See, I don't know how to move around in there. I just look at the main chat, I think. Flacco, he's the king in there right now. The No, the No Jumper group?

No, not the Noggerger. Flacco Discord crazy. His Discord now, he has everybody on the thing. I heard he got all kinds of abusers and weird talks going on in there. Oh, he's a part of a whole different heart now. He's a part of being like, you've got to be worried about this. Is this going on in Flaco's Discord? I'm like, I don't think.

Flacco's Discord falls under the umbrella of things that I have to worry about. Dude, he has trials. He has full-on trials for different people in there. I'm proud of him. Infanase Boy, Tray. He's on some different shit. Infanase Boy, Tray. Proud of is not really the thing I was saying.

It just doesn't seem like a great use of time in general. Just to be in a Discord, just having all this insanity playing out. He's like, he wants, he's like, don't, he's, when I heard him say, hey, look, go to them other people views if you want to sit there and peace and up and all that. Over here, we want the chaos. I said, damn. He is a curator of chaos. He'd be hitting me. He'd like, hey, bro, you know,

I know you're going to go live. Let me know when you get off so I can send all my people to you. Yep. I said, how many people you got sent in to me? Those people are in Discord. I got about 20 people. They're going to pull up. They're going to be Chapmanton. They'll be watching my voice. So I appreciate that.

It's a hundred. Good, flaco. Yeah. Good for him. Well, I just thought I want to announce what I had to do this weekend. We don't care. It's probably the most glamorous weekend

of my life. Gucci? My girl was sick as fucking. Okay. And my house was having the concrete re-poured and then, because I don't know if everybody needs to catch up,

but my house flooded as a result of the insane rain that happened maybe a month and a half ago. And so water got under the floorboards. It turns out that means you have to rip up the entire floor that was impacted. Yeah, because there's mold

could be there, right? Mold was forming like almost immediately. Like by the time, time they ripped the boards up like a couple weeks later there was already fucking mold and keep in mind this is in parker's room primarily because her room is like the part that got flooded the worst and so literally they had to rip up the entire floorboards and then they had to re-pore the concrete on Friday and then we had to be out of the house Friday and Saturday and Sunday most of Sunday we couldn't walk on it either and it's just like we had to go get a hotel and then meanwhile it just so

happened to be at the exact time that Lennon got super sick so I spent my whole Friday Saturday in the hotel just doing mostly nothing. At one point we went to the Beverly Center because it was across the street. But it was just like, I don't know, just the most like trapped in a tiny little layer weekend of my life. It was just pretty boring. Sophoto?

Sophie Tell you. Which brings back strong memories because that's where I met Young Doll, rest of peace. Damn, RIP. And I also at once saw Ludacris doing shoulders. You know what they do there too? It's so random. No.

It's in West Hollywood, so they probably do. No, they do the, what is that? The salsa, no, God damn it, what kind of dances when everybody back there and they all over there just dancing to the Spanish music? Salsa? Not just a salsa. I forgot it's something else, but yeah. Marenga. Marangay.

One of those, but you go down there on certain days and they're all dancing. It's a different experience. That's interesting. You say that because they had advertisements like in the lobby for some sort of salsa dancing, and I only remember that because I was talking to Lena about how I went to a salsa club with some girl one time. I got a hand job in my shirt. You know, like that kind of move. That's disgusting. And I don't know if that's happening, like, on their premises,

but they were promoting it at the very least. It's a spicy hand job. Well, I'm not the hand job, but the dancing. I was right down the street from you, and it was this club slash restaurant right next to the supper club. And they was like dancing in there. Like salsa and stuff?

No, it was kind of like, I don't know what you call that shit. I was saying. Burlet dancing. I don't know, they had those outfits on and they had like the feathers. Oh, burlesque. Burlesque dancing. Okay, yeah, they were doing that and it was pretty cool. I was like, what's going on here?

It was a bunch of Persians and I would say Armenian people. I was for showing the wrong setting. What was you doing? Yeah, I was in there going. Sir, Hoover Stomber. It was a real nice setting. I ain't even going to lie to you. I enjoy myself.

I can't fathom why people think burlesque dancing is sexy because to me, like, It's supposed to be a throwback to the roaring 20s. And all I think of is unshaved pussy and syphilis. I'm not really thinking about it that realistically. But I mean, the burlesque style dancing, it's that's supposed to be sexy. It's just not really like sexy by our modern standards. I'm not knocking down any of them, bitches. I'm smooth.

Damn, what is this shit called? It's called Main Row. Main row? What goes up? Main row. Wait, the restaurant? It's a restaurant. They was dancing in there and all that.

That's the best restaurant right now. It was popping in there. May roll. But, what, Hollywood Boulevard? Yeah. I was in there. We fell up in there. Hey, that is a, um, that's a different type of restaurant.

That was the really, I enjoyed myself. How did you end up going there? Because I feel like you're kind of like a homebody, did she have to tell you, like, hey, we're going on a date. But we had reservations for somebody else's birthday party, you know, something. I'm about I said, that's random as hell. I don't really sound like something you would just think of, like, I'm going to take. Fool-o-Bukachia, I've been like, what the hell?

But it wasn't, but everybody gets on the tape. They play hip hop a little bit, but like not that much. And it was an older crowd. I could like, it was like 30 and over. And I'm looking at these people. I'm like, these nigs is partying. But it was majority white people. And I would just say, I felt like they were playing like Armenian or, you know, the Persian type.

It was more so that. But it still was like, it was going. Like, you know, the food was good. I was like, this is, I need to be in here. It's like a mini club. You can get bottle service. Like they. They bring the, it's crazy.

I was like, this is nice. I like partying like this. I can't be around you aggressive black motherfuckers no, ma'amow. The women that they have sing over there is top notch. Yeah, they were singing. They were performing. That was really nice. I ain't even going to lie to you.

I'm like, this shit is nice. The fool fire too. Main Road. It must be nice to go to a strip club type experience. So, what's that one place that everybody always goes to that's like an old-schooled style? Sam's? No, but there's like, what's it? Twitsies or Twisties or Swistcies or Switzies in Miami?

No, there's one out here that's in like, I forget, like Silver Lake or some shit, and it's like a, it's kind of like a burlesque show type strip club, I think, where it's more like old school and like they're, it's not like super sexy. It's not like a modern strip club where they're just trying to take your money and dance to Jodacy. I'm smooth. I need, I need stupid twerkums if I'm in the strip club. Twerkums. I'm not really trying to deal with no, like, alternative strippers with fucking stick and poke tattoos. The last like 15 times I've been to the strip club is just. just I've been like, this is not for me.

I don't want to lap dance, and I don't want to see you doing that because it's just like, what are we doing? Are we fucking? Or, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's how I feel like a strip club. Like, digas got to fuck. Are we, are you for doing, are we fucking are we going to do the threesome? What am I here for?

I'm not. That's why I'm a spoiler. You know. I'm like, but what are we going to do? Like, you feel me? Like, I don't want us he sitting there looking at ass clapping, cheeks clapping. What are you trying to get my dick? The girls don't seem hot to me anymore.

When I was like, when I, all through my 20s, every time I went to the strip club, besides maybe sometimes where I went down south and the girls were just clearly like in red-bred. Now, they're butt-ass naked. But down south, I've seen some chicks with bullet holes who look like they were retarded and everything. But in my modern age, like going to strip clubs in LA and stuff, I always felt like the girls were kind of hot. Every time I go to the strip club in recent memory, I'm not impressed at all.

I'm really kind of grossed out. Part of it's probably that I'm not drinking, but also part of it's probably just that I'm I don't want that cold booty on me. I'm cool. Nigger, the last time... And I'm not throwing you the bread. If it's cold, that's bad. The last time we was booked, this nigga

dancing to himself in the strip club. I remember that. I can't do this. I remember that. And I remember talking about how I wouldn't do it. And you guys were talking like, I was crazy. And you were going to go get this bag. You have not done it since.

I can't do that. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, I'm like, AD like, throw this. I'm like, no. I don't think about, you got to throw it. I'm like, fuck. If I was getting paid.

I don't think it would change how I felt all that bunch. I think I would have only slightly more fun if I was getting paid. Well, we were supposed to go out for your birthday. Lina went to get 5,000 and months. She was about to go crazy. I love hearing this story every week. I'm just saying. Linda was saying, Adam, throw this money.

You were through it. Don't react. Don't react. Don't react. He'll stop telling the story if you don't react. Maybe you got to, you know, maybe you do that and you take a bitch home, you feel me or something like that. Then it makes sense.

Then it makes sense. Or if you're single and you're trying to attract girls or whatever, then I guess I get it. I'm not going to throw the money at no girls shaking the cheeks and then, you know, hopping the cheeks on my jeans. It's too much respect. That's why you gotta go wearing some valour sweats. Oh, so you want the bitch to fill the year and the main.

You were perfect. No, they're going to get your ass up out of here. No, draw. No, I can fill this year and the man, get him up out of here. They don't want that. They don't want you to do that. Look at my teeth. They absolutely want that.

Look at my teeth. Look at my teeth. Somebody got an end of it. You know how it feels? You go in there in gym shorts with a rock hard fucking boner down to your knee. Not that you got down to your knee, but you know, you got a crazy boner in there. That's not my shin. I feel like they're going to fucking be weirded out.

I did that before. You wore some sweats? We wore some sweats. He knows. You know what I said? She was doing it. I was going to like smack, right? She looked back lying.

You got a problem. A finger banged a stripper in the club for half hour. This thing he's getting me is hard. He needs to go. I was crazy-ass strip club experiences too where I was like damn near like hooking up the chick like while I was supposed to be in a lab dance. And then all of a sudden I'm like fingering them, making out. Like too much to the point where now if I were to get a regular lab dance,

it's just not even registered. I mean, at the end of the day, if I don't leave the strip club with glitter all over my face, did I even go to the strip club? But why are you going to spend good money and get some glitter on your face? That ain't no pussy. Just pay for it somewhere. That's what I'm saying.

I like the ambios. No, his last time was a tempted field. Oh, yeah. Oh, God. What happened? He wasn't doing all that. He was here? You wasn't here for that?

We ain't got to tell it again. Yeah, anyways. I was going to get a hooker and I decided not to... Oh, wow, yeah. I'm pump fake. Oh, shit. You just transitioned from strippers to prostitutes real quick. I'm grown out here.

Grown enough to get a hooker. I'm grown out here. I respect someone who gets a hooker. a lot more than somebody who No, but strip clubs blowing mad money in the strip club. It's not even about like, I just like the environment.

It's cool to have chicks dancing. You with the homies, you post it up. Like, even if you don't want to spend hell of money, sit in the front, motherfuckers throwing up money, that shit, land on the ground.

You re-pick it up, throw it. No, you can't do that. Hell yeah, you can do that. You cannot pick money up off the ground. No. Yes, you can. You're doing it wrong. Hey, Lowe.

Bust. You're out of the crowd. No. Hell, hey. You will get kicked out of the club for that. Never happened. That's fine. I was stuffing it.

You gotta watch. You gotta watch, look around. I don't know what he was doing. I'm all of a sudden. I'm starting to question what got a person you are. If you're picking up money off the ground, I'm re-throwing. He's a great person. I was putting it in my pocket.

That's worse, but at least it makes sense. The funniest shit is smack saying that Q caught him taking the money. Oh my God. He has a house party. Has strippers come. This fool's picking the money up off the ground. He goes outside to put it in his pocket. Everybody's looking at him out the window because he thinks nobody can see him.

They like, bro, get the fuck. What the fuck are you doing? Put it back on the ground, dumb ass. That's wild. But if you're in the club and it lands right there and you're sitting in the front, you're helping it get to where it's supposed to be. They're going to come through and pick that up. It's like when a bird falls out the nest and you pick it up.

I mean, no, he's kind of right. You can kind of do that. Yes, I've never. I always thought it was strictly familiar. I've never seen anybody do it. There's a way that you can play it off, though. It's on the couch. Well, I got to tie my shoes to pick up a hundred dollars.

When the money is going crazy and everything like that and it's all landed by your feet and stuff like that when they come by, you can be like, you could look down it and you could just like push it towards them like you gave them the money. You do that too. Nah, if it's on the couch and I'm standing on a couch, I can be like, you know. Yeah. No, you can't throw it. You got to hand it to them.

No, no, no, no. You don't deserve to throw. You don't just chuck it at them. You're like this here, this is... As long as it gets to the stage. That's broke shit activities, broke shit. I mean, no, no, you throwing it at the stage, wow. You're wow, you're wow.

That's what you're supposed to do. I'm giving advice to anyone that's broke. Let us know in the comments. And anybody that wants to experience this, the bouncer's going to whoop your ass if you're out there and taking money for women. I want to say this is that you're saying like the ambiance is good and that it's cool. Every time I'm in the strip club, it's a bunch of Asian lesbians and then a bunch of random fucking jocks that I want nothing to do with. So I probably have gone.

to the wrong ones mostly in my life. You're definitely going to the hokey pokey and shit. But I don't know, like, there's not, I'm not gonna run into any cool-ass people. It's gonna be people who already tried to come up and take a photo with me on Melrose and it's just gonna be awkward. You gotta go to like cheetahs. You gotta go to weirdos.

You go into strip clubs where- A bunch of weirdos trying to fucking slurped me up. I'd rather stay home. It sounds like you go into strip clubs where white girls are dancing to pour some sugar on me type shit. Like, you feel me like, when you have more, like, we need to, we need an intervention about your self-hatred

of your own racial identity. How's that self-hatred? Because you're denouncing a strip club hypothetically saying that there would be white girls there Lush, you are white. First of all, I'm not saying there's different. Don't try to wiggle yourself out of it. You are not, you are white.

There's different types of white girls. Look, I'm just not a self-loathing one. Look, just because you had an interview with Richard Spencer doesn't mean you could be on your fucking Hitler news. We didn't talk about strip clubs. And just because I complimented his new balances doesn't mean that I have any other positive feelings.

New Tief Lush! You were like this. I've been had these. I bought these when we were on the No Jumper Tour before you joined. It's not happening. It's not cracking. What? His new team lust, he ain't taking it from you.

Ain't nobody saying shit to me no more. Well, okay. We got to work on the self-loathing white thing. Let's do it. Hey, you know what? Fuck white people. Wow. Yeah, see that right there.

You got no reaction, no laugh. Everybody's just kind of like, that's cringe. I wasn't joking. It's cringe. I wasn't joking. I know, and that makes it worse. I was dead serious. And that makes it worse.

You can't dig this hole any deeper. No, no, I love white people. Speaking on race. I love white people. And pedaling backwards now doesn't make any better either. Speaking on race. Look, at the end of the day, I like all different varieties of pussy.

If I'm at the strip club, I'm not really trying to be listening to Van Halen with bitches with no ass. There's a very attractive... This is the same joke. This is still the self-loving white thing. I'm dead ass.

Well, just because we're not laughing, it still feels a good joke. I really want to hear him out. I'm just saying, I prefer strip clubs that are... So you're not attracted to white women? No, I love white women. See? Okay, then what are we even talking about?

But there's different varieties. of white women. Have you ever had a white girlfriend? Yeah. Had to get rid of her. Wasn't getting them where he wanted to go in life. One of my best girlfriends was white, but she was spicy, though. Yeah. What were you saying, speaking of racism?

You got anything? No, I don't. I mean, but if you're going to, you know, sexist stuff, we can go into the Charlemagne thing and the breakfast club where the E made that comment to where she said it was, she felt like she was the only woman in the space, you know, And they wouldn't taking her serious as far as when she was working there. I thought she just said that she felt like she was getting dragged, like dragged into Charlemagne's shit.

Like if Charlemagne was beefing with a rapper, then she would kind of get hit with it too. But she was playing the woman card as well? Yeah, she played the woman card. It didn't go, it didn't go well for it because DJ Envy, like, hold on. That was cap. There's a lot of women that actually work here for the station. You're not just by yourself. So, you know, we do take heed to what women do.

and say here, and there's a lot of women here, so you can't do that. So I think she's going to backtrack her statement and say, you know, they put it out wrong. Because you know, sometimes those clips do kind of like fuck up shit with the way they title it. It's just like, I mean, let's be real. You know, we know. Whatever kind of negativity she might have had to deal with in her career as a result of sitting next to DJ Envi and Charlemagne, she was being carried for that whole time period. And I'm not saying that she doesn't have talent.

I'm just saying that when you're sitting next to Charlemagne, you got to deal with the good and the bad. He's one of the best broadcasters in hip-hop. He's got great takes. He's consistently on a million different fucking shows, and he just kills it day in, day out. Angelouyee should be thankful that she got to fucking sit next to that kind of energy. And obviously, like, the level of fame that she's gotten to, I would largely attribute to the fact that she's been on the breakfast club.

I mean, Angela Yee went from doing lip service, where she was essentially just doing like... But didn't she start that while she was already doing breakfast club? No, that was predated breakfast. She still does it. But that was, like, at the time when it first started, She was just on some like sex talk shit Getting you know

Getting having Gucci Main talking about you know Her draws and all that shit To being on one of the most respected Legitimate platforms in hip hop With one of the best journalists in hip hop Charlemagne although he is I mean Media personality

Media personality And you know regardless how polarizing he is He's great at his job And yeah you're right She definitely got carried However the producer of that show was a woman, so I don't know about that statement.

You can't just play the woman card in every scenario. Like, because you know who did it is Lori Lightfoot, the fucking mayor of Chicago. You want to have a rule? Yeah, she lost the election, and she just immediately blamed it

on her being a woman. But a lot of people, like, what are you fucking talking about? They're like the worst mayor ever. You said you were going to sue the gang leaders and then you fucking get kicked out of office by another Democrat, and then you just immediately have to go to like,

ah, I was massagy. They turned her. turn to a meme, though. She is a meme. But of course, they're going to want to know. Like, why did you quit the breakfast club? So all these questions are forever going to come up. So they're looking for a negative answer.

So if she gives anything, like, that's close to something that they can touch and they can grab and they can use, like, they're going to run with that shit. She should know better. Yeah, but I would say, don't give them that at all. Have enough respect for your former co-host to not give anybody else anything. Not even a nugget of availability for them to say like, oh, look at how she doesn't appreciate the opportunity that she had for all these years on the show. If I were her, I would not even have said all that. They got to bring Webby back.

It's the only person when he's undefeated over there. Webby was the best, probably the best, other than Ray J, one of the best clips they ever had. I don't know what, like, why would you even quit that? I mean, Sharmine is still there. DJ Envy is still there. Like, why would you be so inclined to lead that situation? But wanting to do your own thing. It's not bad.

It's not bad. I mean, she already was kind of doing her own thing. But also, I mean, it's like they seemed like they had secretly hated each other for a couple years because it was kind of clear tension on camera sometimes. I feel like a lot of people, myself included, kind of stopped watching it as much over the years. A big part of it was that whole thing with Gucci Man where he called her a bitch on camera and Charlamagne didn't really do anything about it.

And then she said that she fell offended by it, et cetera. And they've acknowledged on camera like, we do a show together. We're not like friends like that. Which I respect the fact that they were willing to acknowledge that because, but up until that point, I had thought, oh, y'all are friends. Yeah, I mean, but if we do a show together, I mean, you got to have some type of respect for me. Yeah. You feel I mean, I don't give a fuck if we don't hang out outside of this shit. Like, when we get in this bitch, we're going to be the closest motherfuckers to ever walk the earth.

Like, you got to take up for me at some point. Like, you can't go for that shit. Charlemagne should have said something in that moment. Yeah, yeah. He should have been like, hey, come on. He acknowledged that, I think. But, you know, if I'm doing an interview, then the person says, like, well, listen, you know who I don't like?

T.Rail, he's a bitch. Better take off on, girl. No. What would you expect? And let's say it's like he has a valid reason or whatever. He's got a little story about something that you did to him that he didn't like, yada, yada, yada. Do I just tell you beforehand or do I just drop it? Or do I have to edit it out?

No, if a nigga be like, hey, T. T.R. is a bitch. You're going to be like, why? You know what I'm saying? Let him speak his truth. And then you're going to write. after that, you're going to be like, this is why he's not a bitch. Well, what if I don't have anything to come back?

You better have something, motherfucker. But what if he has a story, he has a story about some slimy shit that you did to him. Okay. What can I, I see you trying to make this boring. That's a joke. We get it. We already know what joke you're trying to make it. You're trying to make it the second we started talking about this.

Okay, so if I have no defense, I can't. Like, in the bitch thing, like when he calls, when Gucci called Angela a bitch, I mean, but he wasn't saying like, oh, she's a bitch. He just called her a bitch in like the regular hip hop way of calling a girl a bitch, right? Okay, take up for me right now.

But on what? If they just said that you robbed him back in the day. If it was, I'm interviewing Frank Lotion. You come like, damn, I didn't name a ocean. Sorry, Frank Ocean. And then he's jacking off to Frank Ocean. With a lore man. Frank Lotion is amazing.

That's crazy. No, because he used to call house phone that just for the regular. That's great. That was, because he always would be. And speaking of house phone, if somebody says something about TV. This is the boring joke that I was trying to get you to not make. Please give him.

Yeah. Just say, hey, man, this is coming. Then you want to have a strawberry surfboard. Thank you for explaining the joke that we already tried to get you to donate. Look, if someone, if someone says. And for the record, that is exactly what happened is that the person already was warned about that. In the reference that you're trying to make. If someone says fuck T-R-R-L and I'm interviewing them, obviously, yeah, you'd be like, why.

They explain. I'd be like, well, you know, at the end of the day, that's my partner. I fuck with him, you know, like. No team gone. You're entitled to your opinion at the end of the day. but like that's my boy, so I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't talk bad about him in my presence. That would sound so gay.

You said that in an interview. You cannot say that in an interview. No, I wouldn't do that. You can't say you can't talk shit about him in the moment. You could edit it out afterwards, but you can't talk about the thing that they're saying, but you can't say, oh, no, like, you can't talk shit about him to me. That's not okay. Well, many of people that came and said, fuck Adam.

On here? No. Well, yeah, here. Yeah, here too. Look, look, look. I would know. I would never take issue with that. Like, to me, that's fine.

I don't care. You guys seem to feel differently. I know you're not going to take issue with it, but when motherfuckers get here, they'll say, they'll, you know what I'm saying? They allude to it. Or fuck Adam or the white man or the white platform or, you know,

even your arch enemy comes on my platform. Fuck Adam. And, you know, I listen to him. And then right after that, you know, my rebuttal is, you know, I love him. I fuck with them. That's what I'm saying. I fuck with.

Boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo. I don't know what you got going on, but that's your personal. opinion. But this is why I fuck with them, so people wouldn't know what's going on with me. I got to give them the bullet points. Right. Why I like you. Well, thank you. Appreciate it. I respect that. I'm just saying like, but if someone becomes excessive about it, you got to stop him. Put your shirt down, man. I let you to death too. At a certain, at a shirt. Oh, man. You're the only one who can see that too. I can't see it. Yeah, it was just like

white skin poking out with the outfit. It didn't match. At a certain point, though, if someone keeps on doing that, you gotta stop him, right? Yeah, like, come on, nigga. Change the subject. If it's excessive like that? I'm just imagining a different scenario where it's like someone saying something extremely specific that I can't refute.

Like, I can't tell them like, nah, that didn't happen the way that you're saying it because I wasn't there or whatever. And in that situation, it's kind of weird. The Gucci situation is also a different thing because it's like Gucci wasn't, well, he was calling her a liar, right? Because wasn't the accusation that he made

that she tried to sleep with him at a certain point early on? I thought for show you, he didn't holler at it. After that first interview, I thought for sure you. And that was the kind of like weird tension is that a lot of people watching that thought that maybe that had happened. Yeah. I'm not saying that there's any truth to this.

I have no idea. For content wise, I'm gonna let Gucci get his shit off. Go ahead, get your shit off. But if you're Charlemagne in that situation, that's your co-host. You have to like, like, what you say in that moment is gonna be so fucking important. And yeah, I don't know. Look what happened with me and fucking O.T. and Yazee. People was like, you were supposed to have your co-hosts.

back in the moment, it's kind of different. You're like, I don't know her. Yeah, but that's your best. That made me be on the show with her. But that puts you in a weird situation, though, because that's your... It puts me in a weird situation with the... Yeah, because your co-host is someone

that you realistically don't care that much about, and then the person that you're... I used to care about her. Sure, but then they're doing the podcast with someone who's your actual real friend that you really have a real amount of loyalty to. That is a weird one. But, I mean, and Angela...

A wobbly, if you know. Is that really a lot. I mean, not in her defense, but still, like, she's going to catch, not catch fire, but she's going to be questioned for the rest of her life on why did you leave this platform as big as it is. And these men are still here and they're still doing things outside of this platform. So why couldn't you stay? So people are going to always kind of drag that out and trying to get that out of her.

No matter what. So when she goes, she has to be fucking fully prepared. Not to say anything because they're going to make this shit blow. And that's one of the worst things. about doing an interview these days is that a large percentage of people you might do an interview with, you kind of already know everything they're going to ask you because they're going to ask you everything that they think sounds controversial. And it's like, it depends how tapped in they are because like, I know every time I do a podcast is going to be the guy put the gun in your face

and ex exsaccentation and you do porn. Let's talk about plug talk or whatever. It's like the same fucking obvious ass shit. But then if you go to do a podcast with somebody who's kind of in your universe, you know they're going to ask you about all these different little beef things. and they're really trying to get you to say something about somebody that you fuck with that people will find interesting so people will click. And honestly, I find it so fucking predictable

at this point that unless it's like a big platform that like a big part of me just doesn't even want to fucking bother doing other people shows. But you know what? It's also a red flag. Anytime she does something or say something, envy is there. Well, yo. He's like, and I'm like, what is the, why are we so defensive?

T-Rail did you? If you're not doing this shit, we don't even need to speak on it. And when you do speak on it, you can speak on it lightly. Like, I know she didn't mean nothing by that. Did you ever talk about the, do you ever talk about the beef that you and Charlemagne had? It wasn't no beef. That was a long time ago, yeah.

I mean, he just, he was doing his job. He called me the donkey of the day. I mean, to be fair. He awarded you. The dog of the day is an award. That's prestigious. There's not just a little accusation. To be fair, you over there, you bitches.

Yeah. I said you were going to kill him. I was ready to kill. When you come to L.A., I'm going to fuck you up. Los Angeles, I probably would have tried to shoot at you over the donkey in the day. That is crazy. Not, but you was mad. Oh, my God.

But the reason why he awarded you that is because you was threatening him already. He was like, don't pop up out here if you were. No. What happened was. Because he had said something crazy about Heather. Heather had her baby in the club and then he, they saying, oh, this stupid, who-woo, he's taken up for her, like a bitch-ass nigger. And then he gets the donkey in a day.

Imagine me riding that caption, misspelled. and the gang and shit, and he're reading it out loud on the breakfast club. I was like, this shit is embarrassing. That's classic girl. You guys both were wrong in that situation because his analysis of what was going on in the video was wrong. He was basically acting like this was just a random girl bringing her baby to a Tika concert. It was going to like a hood rat was.

His best friend slash like, you know, guy he's business partners with or whatever is there with his girl and they have their baby. That is a completely different scenario. And the baby had fucking earplugs in, if I remember correctly, or they better have because the baby would be deaf right now. now otherwise, but fucking, and then you were kind of wrong for responding to that by telling him you wanted to kill him. But, you know, he was already in the wrong for like describing the situation wrong. But you were also at a different phase in your life. You're more like, that

was a more turned up phase for you, would you say? Yeah, it's a little bit more turned up. It was calming down still at that point. But I feel like, curry pop tea real. I wonder it is a different one. I wonder if Shawman knows who you are yet. Well, like, after that, like, I wonder if he knows that you're doing your own thing and everything. In there. King Trail. You know what? You know, that's stuck with me. You know, it stuck with me. I calmed down after the fact and I was just digesting that shit and, you know, he was explaining who I was doing that, you know, donkey the day shit. He was like, you know, court jester. You know, at the point, I'm like, what's a court jester? I'm like the clown. And I had to really look at it. I'm like, oh, these niggas really

view me as like the whole ass nigger sent to the side doing shit for people and, you know, saying taking up for niggas. I'm the side nigger. I'm like, that's, I don't like that. It fucked with you. Yeah, that fucked with me a lot. And I was like, I don't even view, I'm like, I own the clothing brand, you know what I'm saying? I'm a part owner over here. I'm doing this over here.

So you niggas really don't really respect me like that. You know, not just him. I'm just like, this is what the world, this how the world view me. I was like, I got to kind of get out of that and separate myself from that type of shit and find me. You know what I mean? Like, it's, I've already done what I did for because you do you, you got your respect level, you're gonna go ahead and, you know, succeed in the music game. Do you? They gonna fuck with you, my nigger. They know what type of person you are now. I feel like,

you know, you know, I feel like you're good. You know what I'm saying? Now I feel like you good. Now it's time for me to do me. You know what I mean? So that just kind of took me to a place where I was like, fuck, I gotta start kind of finding me. You know what I'm saying? Rack City out. Nah, but that's the whole gang, like I'm gonna beat the shit out of you thing. Like, it just doesn't seem that cool as the later you get into life. Like, If somebody's, somebody has an issue with you and you're just like, I'm going to kill you. It's just like, when you're like 20, people probably be high. They're like, oh, he's going to kill him.

That's sick. You said he's going to kill him, you know what? And then you just get older and it's just like, bro, really? Like, that's how you're going to respond to this? I mean, to be. To be fair, like, especially doing this now, you see is, oh, it's just the internet now. Back then, he's like, when I see you in LA. I'm running to you.

And it's a possibility. Well, I'm VETI awards, V8, I'm all the whole shit. I'm at Viacom. You're going to go to 9-1. You're going to go to main road. You're going to go somewhere. Think about what you're proposing there. Like if you actually shot Charlemagne, you think you would be a hero in hip hop history.

You think you'd be a mega villain. I don't think I was going to shoot them. I know, but you did say it. That's just how crazy. Check it out, groove. When you think about it in real life, you're talking about my girl. You'd be like one of, I don't want to name names, but there's a lot of people who are kind of famous in hip-hop because they killed somebody that we all love. And we all know who they are and it's fucking like, those people don't exactly have, like,

You know what I felt like, just looking back on that situation, I felt like you dose angry-ass, dumb-ass rappers and gang members that's hollering at each other through the fucking face time, talking about they're going to kill each other, how embarrassing it looks. I kill people. I can't beat you up and express how fucking, like, gangster I am through the fucking phone or, you know what I'm saying?

It just sounds so fucking ignorant. It's weak, man. Like, that was the weakest shit. When I looked back at, it took me like a day or two. and I'm like, damn, I'm embarrassed. You feel me? But it still, it sparked something in my head, which took me, like, years to figure out, like,

what I was passionate about clothes already fashion, but I was like, you know, it's something else there for me. I still felt like it was something missing, you feel I'm like? Well, when someone comes at your lady sideways on such a big platform, you feel obligated, especially when it's like they're questioning, your parenting, like there's so many elements at play. Of course you're going to have, like,

a vitriolic reaction. I agree, though, it's not cute when you hit a certain age to make, like, threats on people's lives. But out of everything you just said, I can so relate

to, like, me feeling like, over here, I get, like, treated like the sideshow, and I be getting roasted hell of much, and I'm like, bruh, I'm like a figurehead in battle rap culture. I've created all this shit

only to come over here and just be like, oh, I'm the fucking court judge. Look, you be starting shit and building your own green. No, no, no, for sure. You did join a podcast where nobody gives a fuck

about battle a route, let's be real. But that's the thing. But that's the thing, though. Not respect to them, but none of us give a shit. That's the thing, though. And I came over here, humbled myself like,

hey, I'm a do what to do over here and make my own name. Accolades mean nothing. If I resonate with his audience, great. If I get along with the people here, great. But I'm not going to lean on that whatsoever.

But then, like, I also had a battle event last weekend. and everyone's just like rocking with me so heavy and so happy with what I did over there. And even like, fools were like, yeah, that shit with you and A D was fire, blah, blah, blah, like all the tracks you did. Like, when you just to hop in some disc tracks,

let me know, like, just like that energy, it was like, damn. Yeah, all I did was intensify everything, all this shit over here. Especially, yeah, it just made you look just like a better person. I don't feel like you a court jester over here. Just like.

That's how I felt for a while though. But, you know, I don't know why. I mean, we're not gonna give you, like, super praise because you did X, Y, and Z in the battle rap shit. It's just like, you're just a good, yeah, you're a good personality. Like, we really don't give a fuck. Yeah. And I think this was self-inflicted though.

Some of the shit. Possibly. You'd be doing this. And he'd be like, oh my God. Yeah, you were throwing rocks. Yeah, you were throwing rocks. Definitely. I was just doing what I thought was like, look, we making content.

This is what's gonna make shit spicy. Let me throw in my own little flavor to the wumpty-woom and then like, yeah. But I'm like, I welcome whatever comes my way. I've seen some shit too. What'd you seen? The nigga Aver. Oh, yeah. Go battle rapper.

Oh, yeah. Are we looking at y'all like sheep? Yeah, yeah. About us? Basically, like, with the rap shit and everything like that. They was, you know, the battle rap community going on trying to. They're ready. They're doing their studies.

They're going to try to take up for the boy one time, you know. And that's when I put out of T-Rail, I'll beat your ass. We ain't try to battle rap, you niggas. We'll beat your ass. I mean. That nigga, he'll do about my name. No, yeah, for me crazy. I mean, but you came over here as a personality, you know,

to talk about it and see what it do. Look, all I'm saying is I related to what you were saying. Yeah, for sure. It resonated with me. For sure. Yeah, that's all. So who's sitting here saw the Chris Rock special last time? I did.

I seen a lot of me. Were the only ones? I saw a part of it. Like, I saw like just a clip of the Will Smith joke or whatever. Terrible. It would be nice if we were all able to talk about it, but maybe me and AD could just describe our thoughts about it.

My thoughts are honestly like... I heard it was mid. It was super mid. It was like a few funny moments and then you get to the end and he dropped some Will Smith jokes. And it's like, realistically, if you were paying attention to the commentary that was going on in hip-hop or in the outside world, all the jokes that he said were jokes that other people made within like the first 48 hours of the slap.

Like it was some dated as jokes that you would probably only find funny if you really weren't that tapped in. It's an older Chris Rob. You know what I'm saying? Like Dave Chappelle has set the bar now of how this comedy shit is like pressing the line and shit like that. So it's like when I was watching it, me and my mom was looking at it and I'm like, okay. Like the funniest joke to me, he said something like an Asian lady was married to a caterpillar or something like that. And I was like, okay, I got a little laugh out of that.

But other than that, I was like, I got some laughs, but as a whole. My thing is, you know, after seeing that shit, like you deserve that slap. my boy, you deserve to get the shit slapped out of you. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like antagonizing this woman for the last 20 years like, and then hop on him

national TV, call this woman a bitch again. You know what I'm saying? Like, not again, but just call her a bitch. And then talking down on what... He basically explains how that whole narrative is bullshit. Yeah, but even talking down on black women. And but then...

He wasn't talking down on black women. He tried to say she started it. But Megan Marco too, and he's talking down on black women. He has a history of talking about it down on black woman and black women hair and this and this and that and the other. He's a comedian. He's going to make some fucking jokes. But then it, but this again, he's saying, oh, we shouldn't slap each other in front of these white people. Yeah.

But you get, no, no, no. Jokes are okay. Getting people is not. You learn this in elementary school, right? But, you know, being rude, you feel me, and saying rude shit and an angry time. It's not rude. It's not a joke. But we know this is not a joke towards Jada Pink and calling her.

Bitch. She has... We call women bitches all the time. No, we fucking don't. Unless we do. It's the most common thing in the world on hip-hop. Yeah, but she has...

She had alopecia, bro. That's something that she can't control. She got a fucked up haircut. Nah. He got to slap your ass next. Let's go. Nah. Listen, I'm saying

he's a fucking comedian. He's got to be able to make jokes without people deciding to just randomly virtue signal and say, oh, he's trashing black women. No, he's a motherfucking comedian making jokes about his own people. And yes, he feels comfortable

When is the joke become personal? That's personal. When somebody chooses to take it personal. When Will Smith goes crazy and smacks a motherfucker on stage and destroys his own career. It was definitely personal and Will should have waited until after the shit was done. You know what I'm saying? He could have did the same shit. Clearly Will.

Clearly Will mishandled the situation. There's no deny on that because you've seen what has become of his career and it's not pretty. But no. What has become in his career? He just came out of a fucking other movie. Yeah, one movie that they filmed before all that. that shit that they almost didn't even put it out. He got bad boys for it coming out.

He got motherfucking I robot two coming. He's going to be out. I'm not denying that he's going to be all right. I'm just saying it's clearly had a massively negative impact on his career. Oh, agree. During that time, I don't think right now, I think right now people are like agreeing with this slap. You feel I mean?

Nobody agrees with the slap. What? There was a lot of people like you who were agreeing with it at the time. But I feel like essentially everybody who agreed with that at the time should probably be able to admit by now that it was a terrible idea in the sense that it amplified whatever magnifying glass was already on his wife in the first place it amplified the bullying and the hating and the hate that she was getting so much like if his intent with slapping him was basically to like somehow minimize the amount of abuse his wife was taking i'm sorry it had the

exact opposite impact it made everybody talk on top of that then the academy could go back to whitewashing the entire industry because that's the first of the first thing first Academy Awards where they're focusing heavily on inclusion. But they're focusing heavily on inclusion. And then what happens? That kind of puts like a whole stain on that entire trajectory. So then it's back to like, you feel me, Tom Cruise and all these same. And Julian and Jolie.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I mean, even Chris Rock, like, how he handled the situation, saying she's a bitch and everything like that. I mean, at that point, it was... In our community, you should have said that back then. When he slapped you.

But to be fair, like... Because this joke is personal. He's trying to be professional. He waited a year. He waited a year to speak on it. And you got to give him some credit for that because it would have been the easiest thing in the fucking world for him to come out and be doing a special talking about it right afterwards.

I think him waiting a year is pretty tasteful, especially considering that he was the victim in this situation. But, yeah. He said he's not the victim. He might not feel like the victim. but he is the one who got smacked in the face by Will Smith on TV, a much larger band. I mean, I'm sorry, you essentially are the victim here regardless. If there was a police report or if there was a lawsuit involved, you would be the victim.

So he might not feel like a victim or want to present himself that way. But, I mean, I did notice that when he said the bitch word in the fucking stand-up special, that it did feel like, oh, like, that's not normally something that you would see a comedian like Chris Rock say about another woman who's kind of like his peer. So to see that he was really like holding on to that sort of anger that he had towards there, I was a little interesting. At that point, man, and your tone of voice, that shit was personal, dog. We don't need to go and get you again.

She does seem like a bitch, though. That shit was personal, dog. I mean, you could say that in that country, like, oh, she does seem like a bitch. But you can't be like, nigga, fuck that bitch. She knows her way better than us. So I'm not just kind of giving the benefit of the doubt, right? I'm not for to call you a girl a bitch because I feel like I crack jokes. If my girl did some bitch-ass shit, then I would expect you to call her a bitch.

No, out of respect for you, we're never going to follow him. Okay, but you and me are a little closer than Chris Rock and Will Smith, right? We don't know. True, but, I mean, we're on a show together. Did it? Yeah. Did it? Did it?

Afterwards, like, talk down about Will doing that? Yeah, yeah. That's why I said, it made it even worse. And that's why, like, anybody who would argue that, oh, Will was badass when he did that. As soon as she condemned it, it's kind of like, okay, you can't really keep acting, like, this is a deputy. It's only one thing, like, I agree with Chris Rock. What he said, though, is that there were a lot of people calling him a bitch. You know what I'm saying?

For the August, I'll see the thing. Like, everybody was attacking him, and he felt like you chose to pick, you chose to get mad at me. Right. Versus everybody else. I respect that. He's been emasculated in front of the world.

But this is the thing is, that was Chris Rock's joke. It's like, you smacked me when your wife was fucking your son's friend. There were people making that joke five minutes after he slapped him on Twitter. Like, that was the first joke that most people thought of after this shit happened.

And a lot of. He waited a year and said the exact same joke. Remember he was dancing to the shit? Entanglement? It's Chris. Yeah. Entanglement. And he did that joke too.

He's like, I haven't had any entanglements. It's like, okay, we all heard that joke within five minutes of the shit happening too. And a lot of people that were bringing up that joke who had that in mind right after that shit happened, they were on their ass. I ain't heard from their ass since either. You know what I'm saying? And they haven't made any of those jokes fucking sense. Only one person. Why not?

Andrew Schultz. Why do you think people stop making those jokes? Because of the, you know, just because of the relationships, you feel me? Like, nobody got a relationship with Will Smith. Well, it is. Indus show thing can't just run into Will Smith. But it's just industry politics, right?

Yeah. It's industry politics. A lot of shit is still being controlled. Like, you still got production companies that still fuck what Will Smith. It's a lot of things. It's a lot of shit that he definitely can stop. Will can definitely stop. Not right now.

Yes, he can. No, everybody's making fun of him and he can't do shit about it. He can buy no jumping right now. No. I would have to sell it. And what would you do if he bought it? Oh, cool, I have a building. Social media accounts.

You're going to sit here with us. Cool, I have a Twitter account with like 50% less followers. He'll be yelling at lush. 150th of the followers of his own social media accounts. He should become a Scientology platform. But Vlad said that he was sold Vlad for $100 million. I'm going to be honest with you. I was thinking about it.

That's a lot. $100 million for no jumper. Yeah, all right, fine. Because it makes no sense. It's not worth that. So for sure, for $100 million you could have that. Basically, he's trying to out prices because he doesn't want to I said that because he's like,

oh, this is a number I wouldn't do it for, or that I would do it for, so I'll just acknowledge that, even though. Yeah, not giving me that, so let's just stop there. Exactly. Like, you know, would he do it for 50? Would he do it for 40? I don't know.

Probably those are a lot closer to, like, numbers that maybe somebody would actually throw out there. But I did want to say, did you see Boosie saying that he gets paid 40 grand for any of them? Yeah. Damn. Do we believe that, though?

And that's the first thing I thought about it was Vlad. I was like, damn, Vlad, I was like, damn, Vlad gave him that choice. He's got to be talking about Vlad because he just did a Vlad interview right before he said that. Do I believe it? Yeah, because Vlad reposted it as like a news article right afterwards, like on his website. He posted Busy giving that quote. Now, this is what I'm going to say.

Very few times in my life, like almost zero times have I ever made $40,000 off of one interview. You know, like that's a fucking crazy number. But I will say that with Vlad, he gets interviews out of Busy. like he doesn't get regular Bucci interviews. No. Busy talking about Gunna snitching and talking about T.I. fucking snitching on his dead homie or whatever.

Like all that shit. Like it has occurred to me when I'm watching that. Like, why is Boussey just giving it up like this? Like he could have totally like held back a little bit more. But Bousie is sitting in there doing interviews with Vlad. Like he's just by himself. Just talking to the fucking mirror. Like saying everything that's going on in his head.

So I don't know. Maybe at a certain point there is a conversation with Vlad where he's like, listen, like, I'm going to pay you more for this interview, but you can't hold back at all. Like, we need the craziest shit possible. He's definitely an integral part of that. Like, every time Boozy goes on there, everybody pays attention. He says some of the wildest, funniest shit every single time.

He don't really do too much other interviews. I wonder if there's an exclusivity clause in that 40-lander. It's not exclusive, but I think that they've had the conversation about, like, yo, don't be giving out the sauce to everybody else for free. I'm not paying you niggas shit. I've seen him do drink champs. and maybe a couple others over the years. I know has Boosie been leaving me on read about an interview for years.

Like he was on when we did the little Boosy thing or the little blurry thing. See that? Yeah, they said this is Coral. Maybe I need to be like, hey, I got 20K. I know it ain't a Vlad interview. But that fuck shit up. You feel I mean? When you got this next man over here paying these rap niggas think they supposedly be getting

paid for this shit, like this is another outlet for that. It gets a cash, brad. And I just want to let y'all know, I'm not paying you, niggas. I'm going to tell you that right now. You either coming off the little bit. I was nothing. I will talk to my homies forever, bitch, before I pay you niggas a motherfucking dime nigga to do anything.

So you can take your bitch ass to Power 106 and 92.3 to be. Y'all can do all that for free, bitch. You can come here for free, and it's the same amount of exposure, if not more. So I don't want to hear nothing that shit. This is the thing about Boosie and Vlad, though, is that Boosie and Vlad are basically like in business together, you know? So if I were Vlad, I probably, once I had this good thing going with. Boussi, I might have been more inclined to just say, hey, let's do these interviews and we'll just

chop it up. We'll come up with a split, whether it's 60, 40 or 50, 50, or whatever, like, and I'll just give you the money. I mentioned that to Vlad before. I was like, do you ever do that kind of deal? And he basically said that the overhead of dealing with the billing and everything, that he doesn't do that. Everybody he fucks with, he gives them a flat fee, and that's it. Which, it makes sense, but, I mean, the flat fee, us realizing 40K is just like, oh, holy fuck. And that's some serious shit. And it does, you know, make them inclined. to want to come back each time and just give, you know, say some even crazy shit. I mean, but that 40K would be worth it.

If his interview, Justin, doesn't make 40K, you still bring in people to the platform because they're going to watch everything. If he breaks even or loses a little bit of money, it's still like, well, there's probably mad people that are going to do Vlad because of the fact that they saw these boozy ones. And, you know, there's other rappers I've seen where I'm like, I know he paid that motherfucker. But then I see other people come on afterwards and I'm like, I don't think you paid him. But I think he's here because he saw so-and-so do it.

I mean, if somebody's a recurring person on your platform and is working every single time, of course, it'd be like, you know what, let's find a way to keep making this a great business with a shit. The thing I'm fascinated by is just like, all right, I can imagine the first time that Busy was like, hey, Vlad, I need some money for this interview. And Vlad was like, all right, I'll give you 5K. And then maybe next one's even bigger. He's like, all right, we're going to give you 10K. It's just kind of hard for me to imagine Bousie continuing to ask or however it went.

and the number just keep going up like that, like up to 40K. Because 40K, like, for people who don't know about YouTube, that is a shit load of money. But if I'm giving you 40K and I'm a businessman and I'm smart, I'm going to give you 40K for X amount of interviews, bitch. I'm not giving you 40K. No, I think that's one interview.

At least based on what Busy said, he could be lying, but I think that's what you're saying. I mean, but I'm asking, and that's just even any fucking brand, like brand deals. Like, they want to give you 10K for X amount of shows, X amount of this, like, one show, like, sounds crazy. I mean, but if he wanted to get it. him that and it is lucrative for him because of the overall picture.

I mean, hey, I can't down it. I mean, shit. If it's working, it's working. Then, too, Vlad going to put it on Patreon. Yeah. You're going to chop it up into 20 different videos. 16 different clips that all get a million. He's going to put it on all other platforms.

So that 40K, it might even out. Vlad told me that he had, like, it wasn't this Boosie interview and it probably wasn't the one before that. It was like some other one. And I remember he just mentioned that it got like 30 million views, like a, across all the clips, 40 million views, some shit like that. And I mean, those are crazy numbers. Now, granted, a lot of those clips of Bussey are like three minutes long.

And anybody who's on YouTube knows that, like, an eight-minute clip will make sometimes, like, 10 times or five times as much money as, like, a three-minute clip. So that does make me wonder, but then he's also putting the shit on Facebook. You know, it's like a bunch of different shit. And I think Vlad just has, like, a real long-term mentality in the sense that, like, if it does lose money on it in the short term, I feel like Vlad is somebody who's just, like, whatever. And let's be real, like, the Boosy Vlad's.

combo is like one of the best duos in hip hop in the sense that they just keep doing numbers over and over and over and they, a lot of times they're doing like six, seven fucking interviews in a year. Like they do an interview, get a month worth of clips and then boom, to run it back immediately after. And hats off to Vlad

for thinking of shit that's interesting to ask him still because for me, I don't, I don't even know what I would really ask Busy at this point. Well, he's like doing social commentary basically now, right? But everything that you could ever want to ask Busy you just kind of out the window.

I think you're not going to like think of too many things to be able to ask if that would surprise him, right? I think really at the end of the day, he's paying for the cultural capital, the overall relevance, like people are going to now want to just, Vlad is the go-to source for that type of content. And he has like a recurring cast of interviewees, like that always- Tony Yale on the list now, yeah. Yeah, before it was Lord Jamar, before they fell out and all that.

Chinamack for a second. Like so like it's like just it's the same thing is essentially no jumper paying its podcasters as employees. It's just like the little side characters. It's just he never has like a consistent thing with people. Like if Boosie stopped delivering and the Boosey interviews started to do dog shit views, he would just probably move on. Move on. Because I've seen him do like I've seen I've seen I've seen Vlad do an interview with somebody, have it go crazy. And then he'll interview him again immediately goes crazy.

interview him immediately again not doing so good all of a sudden the interviews get a lot more spaced out you know but then with somebody like Tony A or Bousie I mean Vlad is in there and you know it's like if you want people

to be exclusive to you like that and if you want to fucking keep running those interviews back over and over you're definitely gonna have to break bread with him I guess I was just surprised at 40K because it's realistically like two hours of Bousie's time he's literally interviewed

everybody involved in the whole Tupac saga it's like he's on everything short of having a seance interviewing Pock's ghosts. He's literally had every single character, like, to the point. He's had a BG knockout on there, like, five times, you know? Like, more than that. Yeah, yeah.

But that was the thing is, like, when I look at Vlad, I'm like, damn, like, he's been doing content way longer than me, and he was focused longer than me. Like, he got the game. Like, like, the whole thing that I get now of, like, oh, if you meet somebody with a dope personality, you should try to, like, build out consistent content with him. He just figured that out a long-ass time ago, bro. One of his biggest interviews was fucking, what's his name, Slim Jesus. He ran those Slim Jesus interviews back to back to back to back.

He probably made millions off fucking Slim Jesus. I think that's still his most viewed clip. Yeah, I think so, too. Is the one where he like said, I'm not really a gangster. When Slim Jesus was doing this thing, I don't even think I had a podcast. I was just watching YouTube videos and laughing. That was right around the time, I think, no, jump or long, because it's 2015. Yeah, and I wasn't even thinking about interviewing, like, gangster ass rappers yet at the time.

And I was trying to sign Slim Jesus. son Jesus is the most gangster rapper. We literally had a $200,000 deal on the table for him, and he turned it down. That was a David Alki thing? Yeah. Really? He turned down 200K.

Probably the smartest thing he ever did. No, he fucked up. He never would have got that much money again in his career. Yeah, but like, he should have snatched it. At least he knows that he fucked up his own career, whereas if he had signed to David Alki, his career would have got fucked up,

and then he never would have known if maybe he... He still would have been 200 up. Like, fuck. Now we're talking about, You know what I'm saying? People doing these hip-hop platforms. They're interviewing people, these hip-hop platforms. And a lot of rappers getting to come on, telling their story and doing their thing.

How much, you know, of hip-hop, you know, do we think, like, Adam or Black gives a fuck about? You know what I'm saying? Like, do they give a fuck about it? And how much, like, do we feel like the artist gives a fuck about how much Adam gives a fuck about, actually hip hop. Here's my theory on Adam. Adam is... I'm saying that only to because I'm going to lean into this door.

I already know what you're about. I know. I know where you're going with this too. But as far as Adam goes, Adam downplays how much he loves hip hop. I think this dude is a super hip hop head. I'm kind of out of an all-time low, I'm going to be honest with you. But with what's currently going on, but you're still like, I guarantee you, you still have Cameron songs on your playlist.

I'm kind of like an angry hip-hop fan because I'm a I'm annoyed that there's not that much rap that I'm all that excited about. I understand that you're old now. You feel like the era is gone. I don't think so. I think the rap is just stale as fuck right now. A lot of it does have to do with age because look at suspect. He's super excited about all the new rap.

He's in the 20s. Exactly. So it's an age thing to an extent. But I won't be real. Like all the rappers of the suspect listens to are Draco clones. No offense or anything. But like it's like I already been through the real deal. It's like it's hard for me to get used to like listen into fool.

And honestly when Drake, when Grito sent me a bunch of unreleased songs, I was like, Oh, there it is. There it is. Green's new shit is amazing. There it is. I'm like, that's some shit that I'm actually gonna get in my car

and like listen to over and over because I think it's hard like that. There's not many rappers that I really put in that box these days. I feel like when Housephone was like bringing up certain artists, like he always found somebody that was like, oh, like he's the next one like Yid and Summers and all these other people that I didn't know about.

You know what I mean? But like, to me it's an age thing. Right. You know, and the regional thing too. I was like, oh, I don't listen to me. Yeah, I'm not like going to boldly like be as excited about Yeat as all these like 17 year old kids

in the Channel 5 videos freaking out about him. I don't give a fuck like that. I'm not trying to like yeat to in order to fit in. I'm just kind of like whatever. If I like it, if you search for it, there is like the type of hip hop you like exist. You just have to like dig in the grades more. Yeah, but I don't want to hear shit

just remaking a bunch of shit that I already listened to. Like if you sound like Mob Deep, that's dope, but I already listen to Mob Deep. I don't need a bunch of fucking 2003 Mob Deep clones. Yeah, but I say that to say like, you know, niggas ain't really listening to hip hop. hip hop like that. But this is a platform, but should these fucking, these artists say, oh,

they're not listening to hip hop like that, so should you fucking boycott this fucking platform or, you know what I'm saying? Should you start talking shit about us? Fucking artists ain't listening to hip hop either. They're listening to another shit. I asked them what they listen to. They tell me all these rappers from 10 years ago, even if they're like, in their mid-20s, they're like,

yeah, you know, I grew up on Wayne. I listen to like a little bit of young boy. They're like, they don't sound excited about hip-hop either, and they're young as fuck. Even the drill rappers, they don't sound excited about other drill rappers. They're Killing him. That's what I'm saying. So when Duno gets up here and he says he's really not excited about hip hop, he doesn't listen to this or

he doesn't listen to that. Now he's being ridiculed. He's being condemned for everything that he's saying. It's not his fault. It's the rapper's fault. Yeah. They need to make some good music. But the thing is Duno being criticized for not, first of all, Duno is a hip hop head. He also

downplays. He's a rapper. Yeah. Here's the other thing. The Hommies. People There are so many bigger problems. with modern terrestrial radio than if a certain host likes hip hop or not.

We're talking about Clear Channel having a controlled playlist that all these DJs have zero say on what's getting played. And that's what I said in the interview with Dejan, where it's, literally it doesn't matter which race you are, you're going to have to go work at the radio

station and do the exact same thing. And I don't think Duno is like nobody's going to Power 106 looking for Duno's hip hop history. or what he feels like, no, they like the nigger funny. We like him and some dope. Like that's, I mean, me personally, if one of the reasons I'm going to listen to Part 106 now is to listen to the Brown Bag Pod because I'm like, hey, that's dope what

they do and what they talk about. I'm not going to just listen to the pod. They still do the pod, right? Yeah. We're also, listen to that. I didn't listen to the radio version. We're in Los Angeles where over 50% of the population is Hispanic. For there not to be that representation would be even more agree.

Okay, but that's the whole thing. And Dejan's argument. which nobody seems to want to like specify correctly. It's a real argument that we need to have more of our people, since it is hip hop, included into the radio. And I don't have a dog in this fight. That's true. I agree with that.

Listen, when Dejan is doing these protests and when you have Tariq Nashit outside of Power 106 and shit, what is it about? They're saying that there's not enough black people on the radio station. So what does Power do? Hey, we're going to take three Hispanic people and we're going to give them the morning show.

And then I actually went, I was curious, I went and looked at the Power 106 lineup. There are black people on the, channel and everything, but it would appear to me that the vast majority of the DJ WAVie, the big people, the main people on the platform do seem to be all Hispanic, which I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that at all, but I'm saying that Dejan's point and Toreenosa's point was, why the fuck are they're not black hosts on the channel? And I, I think it is a... It does. If there was almost no black people on here and it was all white and Hispanic

people, don't you think that everybody would be kind of saying like, oh, it would make sense if there were some black people on no jump around there. Yeah, they were looking at you crazy too. I mean, out of 30 people, there's only four black people that work here. Five. Of the on-air hosts, I think me and him are the white ones, right? Yeah. Well, I'm not even thinking about the staff. Let's just say, on-camera hosts.

Let's get to that. The staff is, I mean, very, very mixed. I'm not trying to get into all that. No, it's not. This is five of us. What are you talking about? But no, no. Okay, you could do that little.

Okay. No, but in terms of the on-camera personalities, I'm white, and he's a Jew. Okay. That's it. And you start. Turn to tie. Hold on.

You got Danny Mullen. His wife, but he's not technically on the channel. What's that other guy you about to have now? Who's the name is Xertsu? Zertzu. Okay. Let's let the record reflect. You feel me?

Let's let the record reflect. We let that young man come back on here because a lot of people felt like the first time he was on here. We handled that situation kind of unprofessionally or whatever the case may be. So we let him. Yeah, so yeah, we let him get his thing off. Kiki in the background. We let him get his narrative off.

We let him talk, you know, and get his point of views off. Do I agree with him? no you feel me i let him do this report card thing you know and share his views on shit do I agree absolutely

fucking not what's the part you don't agree with that report card is when you come on here and you call us employees you mean you definitely you know is in a disrespectful manner you feel me but you want to assign applications

you know to get a job and beg the white man for for a radio job and then beg the white man to play black music. This is not our radio station. You know what I'm saying? This is not, we're not, they're not obligated to play black music, hip hop, or they're not obligated to hire your ass. And if you have a platform of your own, like I said, a lot of artists out here, we get more

views, you feel me, there's more attention on us. But he wasn't saying, he wasn't saying, hire me. You were saying hire black people. But still, when you, like, hire black people, yeah. It should be more black people. But what's, but even if it's a black, person in radio, LA LA radio is LA music itself is stagnant. Having a black person in there, you feel like it's going to be high behind a thing

trying to play a new RJ song. It's not going to do shit for Los Angeles radio. It's not going to do shit realistically. And that's why if I was Dejan, I would not be wasting time on this fucking campaign. Don't waste any time. But I do think that calling institutions into question and saying, hey, like,

you guys don't seem to be representing our community in the right way or whatever. I mean, It seems pretty reasonable. He did a protest. He went outside there. It's not like they were beating anybody up. They were just making the point aware. And then Power 106 said, fuck you.

We don't give a shit. We don't do now. Isn't Big Boy the biggest? Well, I mean, why are you begging? It's a lot of jobs ago. No, but Big Bois is the biggest LA radio personality. Yeah, well, he's on a different station. He's on 3.

Right. But he's not playing the new. No. None of these hosts have any say in what they play at all. And that's why I think DJ head, like he don't get enough respect because he is probably one of the only DJs that will go against anything to play West Coast music. Charisma, too, yes.

Charisma, the leakers. Sour milk, yeah. Sour milk. Just incredible. There is a lot of people that do try to play West Coast music, but you can't fault Dijon for saying I want more people to try. But use your own platform, build your own platform, and then have them and support them like that, like, that shit is a losing battle.

You feel I'm a like, that shit is a super losing battle. What if there was an Amazon fulfillment center in the middle of Compton and there's no black people working there? Do you think it would be fair for a bunch of black people to get together and hold signs and say, hey, this is fucked up Jeff Bezos, hire some black people? Yeah, that's correct. That's correct. I mean, but if Jeff Bezos says, fuck it, I mean, we ain't obligated.

I mean, that's still Amazon. Well, there are laws in place when it comes to businesses like that that will say, oh, no, you need to, you can't just not hire any black people, which apparently the radio stations is too small. And I'm not saying that there's no black people there. It's just, Dejan's point would be that there aren't that many black people. Radio personalities, you'll see the personalities if you bring it up. There's not many, but we don't know what's going on inside their building.

Because you said, oh, no black people want to work there. No black person would take the job. I'm like, Tiro. There's a lot of people that's known. They definitely, everybody would take a job. You would be crazy not to take the job. A morning show? First, I'm not doing a morning show.

and I'm not crazy. You don't want to get up. They really have to give me a lot of bread for me to wake up at 4 in the morning. I agree with that. But I'm saying that even for somebody like me, being on L.A. radio in the morning or whatever, that's a pretty big deal. That could take your career and move it to another level. I wouldn't love to do it.

But let's just cut out the morning show and let's get to the rest of the fucking day. We're radio, period. And a lot of people I know that's turned down a job, bigger DJs and, you know, more accomplished DJ said, I'm not going to that shit. It's a 9 to 5, you feel me, and they're not paying exceptionally well. Let's just get that out the way. You know how much Duno's making? And it's not going to do, not exactly.

You know how much? You know how much? You know how much? Yeah, Duno is definitely beneficial for Duno. Yeah, it's definitely beneficial for Duno. And I think Duno is in the right place. I mean, you know, to hire some, you know, to hire some black people or more black people, I don't think that's going to do anything for Los Angeles music.

It definitely wants. It's all office. Yeah. It's all just like how the website team page looks. because it's not going to change anything. We should have more representation when it comes down today. Absolutely, but there's still so many more bigger problems with terrestrial radio. Oh, 100%.

It occurs. The real problem, it's a business. The problem for radio is that this might be like the last radio conversation we ever have. Probably. Because I don't feel like there's, the whole time that we've been doing No Jumper, I don't know that we've ever really had like serious conversations about the radio. Besides this. So shout out to Day Jumper actually making us talk about it.

But it's like nobody gives a fuck None of us listen to the radio It's like a thing that it appeals to this tiny percentage of people And I'm not hating on the people who are on it Every single person who's on there knows it You ever have a conversation with boot like Kev about the fucking radio He's still on the radio He gets it. He knows it's fucked

And he's syndicated all over the place There's a dash and makes it more work with it. And there's nobody on earth who's excited about the radio Including the people who work there Yeah begging these people for a job For some shit that's gonna potentially end in a minute anyway It's like crazy to me It's ludicry

Take your time and take your energy somewhere else and build your own platform and support these artists this way and hopefully you'll grow. Hopefully you'll get some back in. Hopefully you'll have some brand deals back you or whatever the case may be and try to do it and focus on that. You put your energy into that. Having them on a radio seems it's just like a losing battle. Like that argument is just crazy. And then picking in on top of that and then just calling these people out their names. This lady's a bitch.

DJ heads a hoe. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? No, he called some lady a bitch. but he didn't call DJ head a whole. He just said, fuck, D.J. He said, fuck him. But I forgot the lady name.

What was her name? Irene. He called her a bitch. Like, these are, like, bad relationships. Like, you got, you still got to be, like, you got to hold some type of politics in this shit. We need someone like him. We need somebody who doesn't give a fuck about getting along with everybody, like you and you. But do you?

Yeah, but. I just said fuck like you. No. No. But, no. But even AD, no. Like, in music, you got, you can't say shit like that. You feel I'm

there's some people that's holding shit still 100% Relationships like oh don't fuck with him Him him and him but isn't it great when somebody comes along and doesn't give a fuck about maintaining relationships If you do it right Because I've seen it when I came into the BMX game I did not know a single pro a single company

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Bet anything, anytime, anywhere with my bookie. Yes, sir. Anyway. I think that the fact that you actually go outside is the reason why you couldn't continue to do that. But academics, he stays to himself. He's in his little bubble. He's able to still, as he grows,

talk as much shit as he wants. True. But he's also in an island of his own. Right. That's what I'm saying, though. but that island protects him from any outside influence as to where he's able to essentially still go hard with his opinions in ways that we can't because we be outside.

I mean, you still can't, but it's like... Not to that extent though. Yeah. I mean, I know, like, as far as for me, like people would say, oh, you PC, you don't say this and say that. And it's like, yeah, like, people don't understand. And a lot of this was T-Rails old homie. And now I shot myself on the foot

with a lot of opportunities in my life because of how I used to just say things and do things and be associated with certain groups and shit like that. But the things that you say on camera that are going to make it difficult for you to go outside are also the things that are going to make you a legend as a broadcaster. Because when academics goes on camera and says all this craziest shit about YSL,

it's like it all of a sudden makes me realize that I have a little bit of a weakness because of the fact that I've spent time hanging out with those YSL guys and that I don't want to talk shit about them. I also don't really consider it my thing. Like I don't really like go crazy talking. talking about the news like that. I'm not dying to have like a controversial viewpoint or whatever.

But the reason why people will go to academics to watch them on stream is because they know he's not going to hold back about the ISL shit, right? You know? But if you talk about an artist and you're like, yo, that album sucks, you could essentially affect their sales. They're going to get super pissed off at you and it's going to become a whole thing. But that's the thing for somebody like me is that there's very little of a W to be had by saying an album sucks.

Unless it's, like if it's a huge album, if the new Kanye album comes on and I think it sucks, That's one thing, but it's like if the new Glorella album comes out and people say it sucks or I want to say it sucks, it doesn't really benefit me because I just don't really want to have that kind of relationship with, like, young artists. And you'll notice that with like almost everybody in media. It's like most people in media and hip-hop are not really dying to tell you that some new artist shit sucks because they know it's not going to look good. Young artists should suck. The fans love having that conversation and there's a whole league of YouTubers who are going to make videos about every single L that up-and-coming artist take. But as you get more established, it just kind of starts to feel like low-hanging fruit.

Well, Dan, how do you feel about, you know, that young man critiquing only L.A. artists. And then, you know, critiquing them to the fact to where, like, damn, like, it might make them feel some type of way, feel bad. It might not make some type, it might make an artist feel like, you know what? Damn, I might not want to make music. I might need to get better. And it might put you into another hole. And it's only the West Coast. And it's just, that's more of a box.

If some random journalist talking shit about your music is going to be enough to make you stop making music, you weren't supposed to be making music in the first place, get some thicker skin. So arbitrary. He gave blast to fucking see. For what? For like his overall, yeah. But I think that I look at it like that'll make people work harder. Whereas like, oh, you know what I'm saying? They would want to be like, you know what next year?

Even though a lot of people say, I don't give a fuck about it, but they give a fuck about it. That's your opinion about. Some niggas might be like, some niggas are like, I want to slap the shit out of the nakes. the knicker, you feel me? Are like, fuck, I start reading into comments, are like, damn, am I really nasty? But, you feel me? Good. But it's like this though.

Tough enough, pussy. If it's too hot, get out the kitchen. Yeah. If you're afraid to come on here and you, oh, I can't take the comments or I can't take this or I can't take that, then this is not the business for you. This random, not only is random, but this blogger dissing you is the least of your problems. The fact that the fans don't even know who you are and don't give a fuck about the music that you're releasing, that's your problem.

He's doing you a huge favor by even evaluating and acknowledging you. Because guess what? All the fans have not even heard your music. And if they do hear your music, they're not going to keep listening to it. And to be called trashing them knowing you is better to be an unknown at all. I mean, but is it though? Because like if the fans first exposure to you is you just got ready to D minus, oh, I'm not checking for you.

You would D minus. But whose fault is that? It ain't his fault. He's a reviewer. That's just the way that like, basic psychology. But if he get that D-minus and then you hear that name and he comes back and he gets a better grade, like, hey, he stepped his shit up, you may be in Clark. So who you put in the power in his hands?

It's not his job to help their career. It's his job to say whatever his fucking opinion is. I mean, if somebody could jump out the gate that's unknown to start having these conversations and everybody is getting involved and having their take on it, nigger doing what he's supposed to be doing. Also, like, L.A. is just a, as a region, we never. have supported our own artists. And if you look at...

That's because of a game banging on. Well, and that's a big part of it for show. But look at like the Bay area. The Bay literally plays local artists on terrestrial radio. Has like... Shout to Big Vaughan. Yeah, yeah. Vaughn, Rick Lee, like all these dope as...

Sonagie, all these dope DJs out there actually put on local artists. When they have like the summer jam, there's local artists opening up and performing at it. And it's created this whole culture. where artists are able to eat, and then some of them wind up transcending and being broken as national acts.

One I want to know who owns these radio stations. Clear channel. Clear channel. Clear channel. What is Power 106 under? I don't even know, but one of them. One of those two. 92 is high-hard.

Every radio station in the country is down by one of two. And that's crazy that you brought up that as far as the politics with Los Angeles, because that could be one of the biggest things that could be hurting us as far as radio and, like, performing at these festivals. and shit like that, because obviously you can see what my boy happened to a Drake or whatever the case may be, RIP my boy, but we can't get together and rally up and do anything together without some bullshit like this happening. You know what I'm saying?

So they probably want to stay steer clear away from whatever we have going on. And to a certain extent, I don't fucking blame it. It's a liability. This is not the first time. Let's go back to Bishop Lamont and everybody. They were mad at Power 106 back then. They literally marched to Power 106. whole bunch of rappers that was like on the cuffs like J. Rock, Bisha Lamont, G. Malone.

To be fair, that was when radio kind of mattered more back then, right? Yeah, for sure. But it's the same fight. In the 90s, I could understand artists being pissed off of the radio. No, this wasn't the 90s? This is like 2008. This is like, yeah, 2008-20-10. Even then it's like 15 years ago.

Back then, I could still see it where people would, like, the radio mattered more. Back in New York, that was a constant fucking conversation of just like, oh, like, you guys aren't supporting us. There's all these dope underground artists coming out, yada, yada, yada. People just always want inclusion. This is my main thing when I see that mentality that Dejohn and a few other people have about hip hop in L.A. That kind of surprises me is when you have people who seem like really committed to L.A.

hip hop being great. And I'm not from here. And I listen to music from all over the country. And I don't give a fuck about like if L.A. hip hop is like, is thriving or whatever. To me, it's like, there's a bunch of individual. artist, I'm happy to help them out by doing interviews and like, you know, documented cool shit that's going on and everything. But if in the year, 23, there was no great new rappers to come out of L.A., I'm not even going to notice because I'm thinking about other rappers I like

listen to from other places. And I'm not even really, like, right now I'm saying there's barely any fucking rappers that I'm excited to listen to, period. And that doesn't really bother me either. Like, I'm not really invested in like, oh, like, we have to protect L.A. hip-hop. We have to make sure L.A. hip-hop thrives. No, you don't have like a overall hip-hop scene. You just have a bunch of individual actors who are doing the best that they can at any given. But this shit is regional. This shit is regional. This shit is not, it's not global.

You can't take, you know, you can barely take any of these artists and put them in any of these states and the music will live. Because of their sound. Because of the sound, nobody gives a fuck. So you're going to have them booming over here in California. Where are you going to go? You're going to do all the clubs over here. You're going to burn down.

Then where are we going to go next? You're going to be on no jumper because you can't get nowhere. But me and a million other people from all over the country have been listening to Flint music in Detroit Michigan for the past couple years, right? I'm out here listening to drill music and shit half the time. And I'm not like, it's not from where I'm from or whatever. It's like that music.

West Coast hip-hop sounds dated as fuck most of the time. But let me make this point. It's not because you're listening to that music because they play the radio and they're playing that artist on the radio in their city. You're listening to the music because you love it. And you found it. Yeah, yeah.

But I have a way different mentality of a music than the average person. The average person, it's like, I listen to the music that comes on in the car. Not even the average person. But the average person, quote unquote, is becoming a much smaller group now because, yeah, they are using Spotify and Apple Music

and they're not like, oh, I'm going to turn on the radio. Once you start thinking that way, then that's where you lose because it's programming at the end of the day. If all you're doing is getting fed what you're seeing on a playlist, that's dictating everything. So what does that tell for artists to come out of here

where it's like, well, you don't matter if you don't reach to this certain type You're not on rap caviar, which is essentially the new radio. Which you can't really get on unless you're with one of these labels that own a percentage of that. So, no, like, you need people that's going to fight to fight. Like, I want y'all to be great. I want you all to try to reach out of the heights.

And yeah, niggas, it do need to be somebody to say, listen, we're banging on this shit to try to get some inclusion because if not, nigga, we're just going to take whatever they want for us in hip hop, and then we're lost now. I mean, but they really cornering this shit off because the labels own this shit and the labels put the money up for this shit as far as much. marketing. These niggas ain't picking these people as they favorite, you know what I'm saying, favorite artists. Do you got the money to be top 10 yes or no? Yes. No, do you have the music that will actually get listened to in that environment because you need the money. You need the money.

Music will get you there. But I'm saying that the radio, like the reason why the radio is not going to play some experimental shit or some song that they don't know if it's going to hit or not is because the radio has one job, their entire business model is based on one thing, which is keep you listening for that 10, 15 minute chunk. So once we get to playing ads for five minutes, that you, you you're still here. The way that they're going to keep you there is they're going to play the songs that keep you there. And unfortunately, trying out the new true car song on the radio is not going to fucking make people stick around. People don't like listening to new music. And I know that might be, that might sound got to some no jumper fans. But when you're in the

club and you hear a song for the first time, it feels kind of weird and unfamiliar, right? Like I've DJed and played unfamiliar music to the audience. It doesn't fucking work. They don't care. They want to hear familiar shit. I was in a club last night and I heard a song that I didn't know who it was and I'm one of the people that always bring their Shazam on, but like, hey, I like this though. And I appreciate DJ's breaking new shit. The club is the kind of place where that shit happens more because you can try shit out a little bit more. With the radio, I mean, listen, like, if they wanted to play random new music and give new artists a chance, they would have been doing it for like the past fucking 30 years. They don't do it. I'm inclined

to it. Like, do it. Go ahead. But they won't because that's not their business model. But it's that paying the bills because that's the business model too. Like, who paying me to do this shit? Because at the end of the day, if we're going to keep on doing this shit, how the fuck is this fucking station going to stay here? They got analytics that show people when they click off on the radio. Hey, instead of doing this show, we could do another show where we just listen to new artists. Which is called the music stream. Yeah.

People fall asleep. Guess what? Yeah. I quit that shit. But we could curate it and we could only play, you know, artists who have a million plays or have a half a million plays or whatever. Like, you know, artists who seem like they're really doing something, we could do a show and play that and we're going to get like 30,000 views maybe on it.

Like, it's not going to be. be good. But if we start, if we did something like that, and we actually chose the music that we liked and it wasn't based on politics. It still would do dog shit compared to us sitting here talking about whatever. Technically we did, we do, well, we haven't done it lately, but when we were watching these music videos and it was always a wild card where it was like, all right, that's what I think made people want to watch the video. But if it was just us listening to the shit, they wouldn't get it. But there would be like 10,000 people watching this live and there would be like a thousand people watching that live. So would you pick it at radio

stations or would you complain about playlist? Which one would you do? Honestly, at this point, playlist is way more effective. But here you got to... Both are going to have no effect. But you got this. Individually curated. This is a person. They're really not, though. That's the thing. You got to cut the head

out the snake. It's all curated by the labels. Yeah. The radio... But if somebody at the label... Of course. That's... Of course. But if you're a rap caviar, you want to keep an image and part of your image is that you want to have cool pop and rap songs on there. So yes, the labels are able to manipulated and stuff, I'm sure. I don't know exactly how it works, but ultimately they want to be

the people who are creating a trusting relationship. If I go to rap caviar and I listen to it and it's three random ass L.A. rappers that sound like shit, I might never click on it again. And they know that. Look, local scenes, though, local scenes and the prominence and power of local scenes is what does move the needle creatively and what does actually make people excited about the genre. It's not rap caviar, motherfucking bottle service, lame playlists. You feel I mean? But they have become like the radio. Right, you're right.

But that's why it's important when you're like, oh. And I have something like Callie Heat on Spotify, which I respect. You got the new L.A. on Apple music and stuff like that. Like when you get to one of those as an L.A. artist, you're like, all right, I'm getting some. Yeah, but that's curated by individuals. That's not like an industry playlist. So what would you, what advice would you give a person like Dijon, you feel me?

Like, what advice would you give him? Like, where should he focus his energy? more towards. I think he's doing what he's supposed to be doing. Yeah, because he's trying to create controversy to like, you know, basically make his individual personal brand bigger. And it's working because we're fucking talking about it, even though he's complaining about something that we all agree is completely fucking irrelevant, which is the radio.

I mean, it's working because he made me to bring him on again. I probably, I probably, well, I guarantee you I wouldn't give a fuck. You didn't want to do it. No, I guarantee you I wouldn't give a fuck about what's going to do it. going up because I just already know how I feel about LA hip hop and how LA radio. I just already know how I feel about just even LA OGs. Like, I'm just so like, I'd be like on their fucking head anyway. So I'm just like not even in tune with that shit.

Yeah, but you're LA OG now. I ain't no fucking LAOG. Yes, you are, you are, you're LAOG now. I ain't a rap LAOG. No, not a rap LAOG, but you're LAOG now. You feel me? There's young people that are watching your streams right now looking up to you like, I want to be like T-Rail so you can either lead them this way.

Do you consider him an unk? He's definitely an un-huh. Oh, my God. It's a fact. You've been giving your un-k, I thought we're all-unks. But that's what I'm saying. I'm the youngest-unk here. If you're looking up to me.

Youngest unk is a good rap man. I'm the biggest, I'm the youngest. No, but if you look it up to me, are you looking at anything that we're doing right here, I would say use your own platform to push these artists and, you know what I'm saying and try to get it out. I got a little. I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be fucking sitting around big and no fucking, no fucking, fucking big ass conglomerate to put our people music on their platform, something that they

created, because they ain't obligated to do shit, you feel me? And we already know, like, this shit is crazy out here. Look, I'll give it to you another way. And this is kind of how me, RJ and Neff DeFarro got on the radio. Neff crazy, too. We got on the radio because when 92.3 came Iheart, they basically was like, look, they're not playing LA artists. We want to come in and we want to take over LA radio.

They win and saw that big boy. But like he said, this is a different time. And you don't even have to use that shit. Look at Blue Bluffs can, look at fucking Baby Stone Gorilla. They don't need that shit, nigga. You know what I mean? Nobody needs it, but it does. It does help.

It does help. And you know what I'm saying? And back to what I was saying is, nigger, once that shit happened, it was like, look, let's go get this guy's song, this guy's song, and let's give them full rotation. And that shit was game changing for all of us, bro. probably wouldn't be here if it wasn't for them coming and taking that situation and turning into something and it needs to be more. I want to see more artists, bro, getting a chance taking on them in L.A. radio sitting there saying, hey, even if it's just one, let's get behind

one L.A. artist, you feel me that we can all agree on and let's push him to the max. That's what happened with Kendrick. That's literally what happened with Kendrick. We can't stop that, bro. We have to sit there and feel the way about that. I know, like he's saying he don't care about L.A. hip hop. All of us do, I'm pretty sure. You feel me? Of course. We from here, you know what I mean?

Like, I care about it tremendously because I care about not only what's going on now, but the future. And if there's not a strong local scene that has different outlets, not just for radio and things like that, but for live shows, all different ways, different brands that artists can collaborate with. If there's not like a healthy economy for the entire scene, then eventually that shit died out. That's why I'm rooting for Zoe Osama. When I go to the club now, the whole weekend I'm out. I'm at every spot, we turned the fuck up. And I hear A&M Bob Store like, I like that because I'm like, okay, people are here for Roden Loud weekend.

They're gonna leave sitting there like, hey, it's some new shit in LA that I fuck with. And then shit like that will change somebody's life, bro. And it'll be more people sitting there having the baton pass to them and shit like that. We need more of that shit, though. We can't sit there and say, we don't give a fuck because we're in positions now to where we don't have to give a fuck. But if you put your haul into something, you're going to feel like, you put blood, sweat, and tears in this, you're going to want some inclusion and shit, or something that's going

to keep you going. We need to do that. Man, I've been there, I've been in those radio stations so much, and we was giving those fights so much, like, and paying these independent radio people so much. It ain't just like, oh, yeah, go into Paro Sex and pick it. Like, bitch, we was really paying these people 50, 60,000, nigger for these spins. And then if it catch, once it catch, you go on your media base.com and see how much much they're playing it.

Then once we see it, you get your spins, and then you pay another 60. You really playing this game, like, it's really hard. Like, we was in these radio stations. Which you're technically not supposed to do. Which you're not supposed to do. We're in there, we in there feeding these bitch-ass niggas, we're bringing fools, we're doing all of that shit, like, that's out. Doesn't happen anymore?

I'm pretty sure people still do. I hope. I hope nobody brings Duno any food. And I mean, you know what I'm saying? That's out. But though, that's out, though. That's out. Fuck you, we can, we can hop on.

on these fucking playlist. We can do these other outlets. We can come on these podcasts. We can do that shit to get your music out. If I got to fucking sit in there and do all of that, fuck that shit. Hey, but I ain't gonna lie. St. John, I literally had a mixer meeting the same day as him.

And mind you, I know all the DJs. I'm in there laughing. Hey, yo, what's you? That nigga came in there and blew all the DJs away. And at that moment, I said, this nigga gonna be big when it come down to the music scene. Them niggas bought food for everybody. He looked at every DJ and said,

I can't make it without you guys. Yeah. He looked at like, like they sold, bro. I'm like, so if you want to be a poppin artist, that's what you have to anticipate is you got to suck off a bunch of fucking random-bast- You better come in a mixer meeting,

you better. Bro, he came in like, you're bringing in and out there, bro, I was like this, don't think you're just going to make good music. You're going to have to suck off rooms full of people. Did he feel like he just deflated everything that you had been doing?

Nigger, I said, why am I even here? This nigga St. John came here and just swept it. Fuck my, fuck my. Fuck my shit, bro. That nigga looked at everybody, and the way he did it was so professional and he was so sure of himself. And those radio people taught us that. They said, you come in here, you do this.

You do this called a mixer meeting. And he came in with a nigga from Rockefeller, too. I was like, it was hard, nigga. And I talked some of the homies. He's like, bro, you got to have a mixer meeting. Talk to them. Bring him some food. And they're like, oh.

You know what I'm saying? Like, and get in there and they start playing your radio. I mean, your song. But, man, that shit is like, that shit is dinosaurs. And even if they don't play it on the radio, a lot of the DJs, they have residency, places, and stuff like that. They will be inclined to sit there and play your shit, especially if they see you in the club. Oh, hey, what's the call in the building?

Here, let me get cute this up. All you're making me think, as you say this, is like, kids, don't be a rapper. It's just, it's not worth that. There's too much bullshit, though. You love music, man, do what you got to do. Well, we had just said, what I think AD said a few minutes ago is when L.A. all got behind Kendrick, that's what it took for. And, like, the OGs, the youth, everybody was on the same page.

They had a concert. Snoop gave him the, all the, all, all the respect. the West Coast people came on stage and said, you have the torch. Now, if we... And he just didn't go out there and do it by itself. No. You know what type of team he got?

Right. What type of homies he got behind him? Right. Like, what type of represented? He left them, right? He dipped out on them, right? I mean... He didn't...

I mean, but that's over the year. After several grannies and shit, right? You could definitely grow and do that shit on your own because... Did Kendra take five years off because he was trying to get out of that deal? He took five years off because, you know what I'm saying? He got to make the term music that he can make it. He can take five years old because he's a Grammy Award winning artists. I think five years.

Mentally and the level that he's got, he can't just put out an album. Like it has to make a statement every time he drops. It has to be a masterpiece. It has to be surrounded by something. It has to be a thing. For sure, there is more to it than that. But also like, let's look at like a Grito right now. Just, as Grito, would the whole entire West Coast get behind some of the

like that, especially considering the politics that he has. And like- He's pretty chill politically. Right, but I'm saying, like, is there- The radio's not geared enough to play his songs, is what he says. If he has a hit, they'll hop on it. They'll hop on it as soon as it's obvious. We'll see.

I would like to see that happen with him, because I don't think there's anybody else at this moment, really. Grito sent me some- I'm a rude for him to go all the way. Grito sent me a song that is like him with auto-tune for the chorus, and he's rapping without auto-tune on the verse. And it sounds like a dance. different rapper.

Bro, that plug song that he has, like that new joint, like that's one of the sounds amazing. He hasn't released anything, right? It's all leaks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Amazing. I think Broke can take this shit over. Me too. And really make some ways with this.

I felt real feelings when I was listening to his shit that he sent me the day. I was like, oh, okay. So let's all get behind the whole West Coast. Fools like Dijon, you feel me? Fuck on the West Coast. Let's go on your... Oh, three Grito. I don't give a fuck about anybody else.

That's what I'm saying. The West Coast get behind. Don't try to hijack his movement and add all these other bums. Let him be great. No, that's what I said is the whole West Coast get behind him. Listen, everybody in L.A. already going to be trying to do, if he is huge, if Grito is one of the biggest robbers a year from now, already, we know everybody on earth is going to be begging him for fucking attention features, whatever, you know. Tell fucking Dijon hop on his treadmill, give him an A-plus on the motherfucking rankings and boom.

You really come with the fat jokes. We could change the subject. But this whole thing was about Duno, you feel I'm me? And his comments on his comments toward hip hop. We kind of shot away from that. Yeah. His comments were in hip hop and I know he really didn't feel like. I was thinking that.

Yeah, he didn't feel like. There's gonna be plenty of people who are like, why the fuck are you guys talking about the radio for an hour? But my thing with Duno is like, but you can't really blame Duno for not listening to rap when rap is kinda trash these days. I'm sorry. Yeah, but Duno at the end, just like Lettie said,

and Duno is, y'all gotta give him props. Man, he's only 22, man. He's learning. Is he gonna be 22 forever? No, but the whole thing. He's about to be 23. He said. No, he said what he said.

You just can't say fuck hip hop. No, but yeah, when you work for a radio station. Even if you're joking. It's very important. But he didn't mean that shit. You feel me? He's 22. And we shouldn't be saying that because he's a comedian.

Oh, that is a good out. Boom. He's a comedian. It don't really. Is he a comedian? Yes, he's a comedian. He makes funny TikTok videos. He doesn't get on stage.

He's got on stage before. Yeah, but he doesn't do it with any kind of regularity. He's not an accomplished stand-up comedian, but he's still a comedian. He's a great funny guy And he made a mistake He spoke out of a turn He loves hip hop I'm pretty sure just because you're funny

Doesn't mean that you're a comedian I'm pretty sure Like the people appreciate us Talking about hip hop Okay but let's talk about some gangster shit How you feel about this jaw guy Apparently is a new jaw on the scene Jarl

Jarl rule is gone John Moran is on the scene And he got the blicky in the club I never even knew who this motherfucker was But then the story Come out a couple days before The Blicky in the club Where that he allegedly pointed a gun

at a kid and said some shit to him, right? John Morat is fucking super talented basketball player. He's actually very, very great. But he was accused of pointing a gun at some kid, like a few days before this gun in the club thing, right? Cues of punching him. Punching him. And having a gun, right?

That was the incident. He just punching him. He posted a gun on Instagram. That's separate. That's separate. We're talking about what happened before that. Well, there was like an incident at his crib, like he had a home court crib or whatever. thought you guys would know about this.

Yeah, he had a home court crib. They said he points a 17-year-old. Yeah, dude wound up like, dude was apparently acting hellor rowdy. He wasn't just a random 17-year-old. Oh, yeah. Five days ago, he was accused, oh, of last year threatening a mall security guard.

Oh, no, so last year was accused of threatening a mall security guard, and then days later, punching a teen during a pickup game at his own house. That's what we just said. That's what I literally just said. Okay, but I'm clarifying since you guys were saying in like five million different directions. No, we did not. I just told you. I was begging for you to tell me the story.

I just told you this story. I said he was trying to deny it. But you kept trying to bring up the club thing. No, I said he put, they allegedly punched a 17 year old. I'm trying to lay it out in order. On his Instagram, you said, no, he said the other way. Let me get to me. Okay, the gun in the club, though, is at the end.

That's the most recent incident. This is what I was trying to make clear. Very hard for us to get to these things. So, right on. Okay. Gay hat man. But so I actually had a controversy. tweet that some people

really did not appreciate. Let's just read this. So I quote tweeted him with the gun in the club and I said, the allure of gangsterism is so strong that even guys you get paid millions of dollars to play a sport, immediately morphin an NBA young boy after a few drinks. Basically just saying that this is a guy who

has every single reason under the sun to not be behaving like this. But, you know, the culture that we've grown up with just makes having a gun and being a tough guy so fucking cool is that this guy gets a few drinks and and just kind of has to do this. And, like, I mean, clearly he's got his own fucking issues going on

because anybody who's set up for life to make this much money from the NBA who continues to do this has something deeply wrong with them. Yeah, nobody wants to hear that from white. But what people, you know what I'm saying, people like, hold on, you should sympathize with him a little bit after you making that tweet because they're saying, like, you morph into a gangster too.

Like, without drugs, without weed. But nobody. Like, you morph into a... I read every single comment talking shit about that post and nobody said that. Nobody said you think you're a gangster. So that's your take and your take alone.

You morph into a certain person, you know what I'm saying, being around these people? Because you've been from Lantana Block. Nobody's saying that. You were from Lantana Block last year. But now you're bringing up a blatant joke that I made for like five seconds on the podcast.

I mean, but if you around certain people making a certain amount of money doesn't mean you can't hang and, you know what I'm saying, doing shit jokingly and fucking around. That don't mean you, you still can't be. Where's the joke?

He was toting a gun on Instagram Live in the club. Where's the joke? He knows that he's going to get kicked out of NBA or in a lot of trouble with the NBA. He has to realize that he's in a life-changing situation that could be taken away from him, no matter how talented he is. You need more people around you to have your best interest

and to make sure that that shit like that don't have any. And so you saying that the people think that I'm trying to be a gangster is a bizarre misreading of the sentiment to this. Let me read to you a thing that a person actually said, this guy said, you do glorify this behavior and promote it on your platform. How many people do you have that not only work for you, but that you've interviewed that act like this on a daily basis? And so my response was, there's some impressive logic going on in the comments. Because we

comment on rap and street shit, we must therefore be in favor of every person, including professional athletes, brandishing guns and public establishments. I mean, my thing about it is that this person was basically saying that I'm not allowed to basically call this dude. dumb ass for fucking up his NBA career by having a gun on Instagram Live. Like I was thinking about this in a different way. If he had been driving up out of there and the cops had pulled them over and they had found a gun on him, I mean, you could look at it and you could say, wow, that was a pretty dumb move.

You should have had security or you shouldn't have a gun on you. But you got, you would have got caught in a reasonable way. Whereas if you're in the club on Instagram Live with the gun, I mean, guess who doesn't do that? You don't see Dirk having guns on Instagram Live. You don't see a young boy having guns on Instagram Live. Maybe they have in the past, but these are like the most gangster rappers. on earth and they're not doing this kind of shit.

And the idea that we like that. We want people to do this. And because he's throwing all y'all in it too for the record. I don't want him to do that. We want this. We want athletes to be having guns and clubs. Just because we sometimes talk about street shit on here. That's the stupidest fucking thing possible. And I'm not going to lie, I read like a hundred people saying that. And I was really shocked. Like, of all the

times that we've talked about how to move and how to be involved in street situations or how to be out in public and stuff, people People think that we think that everybody should be a shooter. They should carry, nothing is wrong with carrying a gun. There's absolutely nothing wrong with bearing arms. Well, in a lot of states, there would be. In a lot of states. And a lot of places in general.

I mean, if it's illegal, you know what I'm saying? But for me, it's nothing wrong with bearing arms if it's legal, especially if you're worth $200 million. You know what I'm saying? You can have a gun. You can ride with a gun. You can do everything with a gun. The problem is showcasing it on Instagram live.

Yeah. That's out. Also, if you're that high profile and you're that wealthy, you could have people, you can be flanked by people that can't even, so regular people can't even get to you. What people were saying, though, is that- all strapped up. Maybe where he was at, it is legal for you to have a gun,

and it is legal, like, easily. And easily, you could have it in the club as well. So that would be a good argument since, like, I think, for our perspective in L.A., like you just can't have a gun inside the nightclub, right? But even then, like the NBA obviously has their own policies where they're going to feel away about you doing that. Like Drake said, sponsorship dollars in Sky High, when you got all these sponsors on the

line right now, like, nigger, imagine Nike was like, we don't even want to be included with you no more. They're thinking about it. But that's what I'm saying. It's like, nigger, none of this shit is worth it. If what you're trying to show these, like, you have nothing to prove to nobody. To the hood, nothing. And you've made it in life.

already, nigger, do your fucking shit, man. Don't sit there, nigga. You ain't gotta act tough or show niggas that you, that you wit it. You win it, you win it, nigger, one of its time of action. That's some Aaron Hernandez type shit. Exactly, yeah. That's what it reminded me of, yeah.

Oh, damn, you're gonna put them all the way to air. I wouldn't know how many bodies he got, but... I would call on Aaron Hernandez. I mean, but... That's where it could lead, potentially. I mean, to bear arms, so now... No, no. So now he's an American that can bear arms.

No, there's nothing. And he's like... Aaron Hernandez kills. one. Yeah. That's kind of the whole thing. There's a big difference to be carrying a gun and killing someone with the gun. But you can carry the fucking gun. But the correlation is you've already made it. You ain't got to act like that.

You don't need to impress people with street antics. So my thing is you guys feel like he's acting like someone. He's not. No. I don't know the nigger to say that. That's what I'm saying. So how are we like how are we judging him if we don't actually know him? They actually know where he's came from and what he's done. But that's the thing. It's not about what he's came from.

It's about where he's at right now. I mean, yeah, where he's at right now, he's worth X amount of dollars. He's signed to X amount of people, and he feels like he needs to carry a gun wherever he's at. He probably feels like he needs to protect himself. Again, carrying a gun and brandishing it like that. Carrying is one thing.

Having it on Instagram Live in the club is a totally different thing. So that's what we all disagree with. Don't have it on Instagram. Also, if you're in the NBA and you're worth tens of hundreds of millions of dollars, like, guess what? Do exactly what every rapper who's worth infinitely less than you does and just have your little homie with it right next to you or your security guard. When King Vaughn got killed, when King Vaughn got killed, he had a bunch of shooters and a bunch of real security guards with him. Like a whole fleet because I've looked into the case. Okay, I'm telling

on a dead man, right? Yeah. We can't do that because I'm saying, King Vaughn doing that was a reasonable amount of security for him to have like three, four armed security guards and a bunch of hummies with guns. That's reasonable in his situation, you know? Like, so, Just being a dude having your own gun in the club is... But that's probably not the best example to use, though. Well, unfortunately, when I get that much money... His actions were outside of... He had all those people with him

that should have prevented him from going and punching someone in the face, but he didn't choose that. When I get that much money, take this out. I don't want none of you niggas around me. Nigger, you don't go outside now. Yeah, I don't want to do nothing. I can't imagine you would a hundred million dollars. I don't want ten niggas with guns behind me.

I don't want to feel that feeling no more. I don't like... I'm nervous. I'm doing this. I'm looking around. Like, get the fuck away from me. Yeah, but what about when your family want to go to Disneyland? We could go to Disneyland. It's the happiest place.

Do you know what he did? I got metal detectors. Do you know what he did at Disneyland the last time I'm with here? This is why. They got metal detectors. Who phone you threw again? You threw someone's phone? That was not the last time.

You're the happiest place on earth. I do hear about some gangster shit going on there. Sometimes the OC, that's like where all the weirdos go, right? I mean, it might be a, It might be a fight or two here and now. I've never seen it. It's the happiest place in the world. I see some fights on two.

Am I tripping? I've seen hell of fights on Disneyland. And I seen, I seen like a news article one time about all the punk rock people and shit that go hang out there. Like, it's not even just gangster shit. It's just weird people in general.

Like, oh, we're in the O.C. There's nothing to do. We're going to Disney. The OC is actually very nice and it's very hot crime. Oh, yeah. It's very nice. That's the problem is if you want to go be on some weirdo shit,

like where the fuck are you going to do it, right? And be like T. And be like T. I'm throwing people for them. Who? Oh my God. What happened? Remember what?

Oh, Gizi got kicked out? Yeah. Of Disneyland? Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. He was banging on one of the employees. I think before he even got in, wasn't it, like, at the entrance?

I don't know. They don't play that shit. Yeah. You talk to an employee. It's like guards in the county jail. They're on your ass. And I'm gonna be mad, too. If I pay that high-ass ticket with my kids, you over here tripping.

No, you ain't fucking up tune town for my kid. Yo, I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna join in on that shit. I went to the Beverly Center over the weekend because we're right across the street and I like totally forgot that I'm fucking whoever the fuck I am right now. And as soon as I walk in there and I start seeing face tattoo guys and shit they're just like, what up, Adam, how you doing? And I'm forgetting that it's fucking rolling loud weekend. So there's like infinite people

getting a fit before they go to Rollin Loud. I saw so many goddamn rappers slash aspiring rappers slash dudes that I don't know who the fuck they were. It was a weird scene. Were you taking hella pics with people or what? It was uncomfortable. It's like many pics. I'm on Boosy. I'm like Boocy. Boocy said,

I'd rather do this podcast and go to this club with you dangerous. This shit is too dangerous. You could do both. It's getting out of hand. If I'm Boosy, you do the interview and then go to the club. Look what's happening in the Glorilla. Man. And she's a girl.

She got a little mini Astro World on her hands. She's throwing water at her. Security guards is out here getting caught with guns in the car. This shit is getting crazy. Somebody died at her concert that other day. They got trapped. They're trampled. Yeah.

There's like a one-tenth of an Astro World. They ain't putting that pressure on her like Travis Scott either It was a grown-ass dude who got trampled too I believe See and that's an accident why are they doing Travis Scott like that Yeah but Travis Scott fucking you see him punching that dude in the club the other day Oh my god This motherfucker ain't changed at all I'll punch you if you're talking shit

He just punched a DJ The guy's like spinning the records The nigga Mark is over there acting like Well you know him No we fucking talked about it He was laughing at him Because he was in the hospital for getting supposed to punching Get the fuck out of here.

He's sitting there like, yes, my head still hurts. Oh, hell yeah. If Travis Scott punches me, I'm rocking a neck brace for two months. That's what I said. I'm never taking it off. Mark is smart. He went like this. He's like, yes, my head still hurts.

Oh, my God. I mean, if you're, like, this reminds me I went Torrey Lane punched whoever the fuck it was at that thing right before you had to go on trial for the Meg thing. It's like, if you're trying to tell him. You're facing this gigantic fucking lawsuit related to the Asteroil World shit, and you still can't stop yourself from just beat. motherfuckers up. I don't know.

DJs get it the worst, though. Yeah. They be acting shitty. Especially in the club. shitty bitch. You don't want to play my record. You can't hear me. They doing this.

Can't hear you ignoring you. All the shit. Especially if you're a rapper and they ain't played your song. If you're a rapper, you're the club and they didn't play your song on time? That's super disrespectful. You're going to spend this next bitch? Yeah, but they'll see you outside. They don't play your song so you start a stampede.

From a DJ perspective, there's nothing more annoying. than people trying to get their song played. Like, it sucks. It is weird though. But when you got your people in there, okay, when you host in and they don't play your shit, that's like total disrespect. Yeah, that's different. That's great.

If you're hosting, you gotta have a lot of conversation beforehand, right? You're gonna play this song, you're gonna play this song. But there's some DJs that'll be like, I playin' ass shit. You're just a bitch. I don't even know you. Like, it's a sick out of the club. I've DJed for years and when I used to like. What's your DJing?

Just me? You feel me? Like. Just me. That's me. DJ Lush. Just lush. But when...

Whiteback. But when motherfuckers... If I saw you in the club, I'm playing, like, Crip Lives Matter. If I saw you walking... Please do not play... Please do not play Crip Lives Matter when you're in the club with me. I'm gonna play whatever... I'm gonna look awkward as hell.

I'm gonna play whatever song of your... Thank you, bro. But goddamn. I'm gonna play whatever song I enjoy of an artist that comes in the room. That's why you're not DJing anymore. But... But if you're just an unknown rapper and you're not even anybody and you're not even anybody and you're coming up begging me to play your song

and trying to like intimidate like or whatever. I'm definitely not fucking with you. The new thing now is, especially like yesterday, I'm in the club, you can't even hear, and motherfuckers is like, bro, you got to bring me on a podcast and tell my story. I'm like, the amount of times I hear this now, I'm like, nigga, who the fuck is you? I know you for years.

I got a story to tell, bro. You sell granola bars. What are we going to talk about? That shit is the most annoying shit ever, you feel you? That's not your entire inbox. And you know who whole politics? He's like super crazy, nigga, Las Vegas. You're not getting in the club.

As an artist, they're not bringing you to their club. They don't want anything to do with the politics. They don't want anything to do with any- Yeah, if you don't have your ID, they don't give a fuck who you are. They're not getting in this mother-fax. They have paid residences too and shit, so it's like a whole other thing. And to pay residences, like the people that they do bring to their club, like you've got to pay attention.

They're not bringing no crazy motherfuckers, bro. Oh, too, you got a residency. He's cool, though. He's a great person. But he loves partying. He's a good vibe. Like you got to, you got to go, yeah, he's a great vibe when he goes in there. Great guy.

Great vibe. You feel me? They don't bring all arms here. Very marketable. They do not. Very shiny head. That's true. You got to put lotion on.

I heard he uses like, like, uh, like you were using your car tires. Whoa. Is that a thing? He might knock you out for that one. Yeah. I'm ready for that. Don't be in there. You're ready to hear about.

A.D. is going to be like, we're about about an hour and a half into the podcast. You're going to. I want to check out this comment made about... Don't be in there like, Mark. What about that ice-by shit? I was going to bring this up, too. What about that ice-by shit, though? Okay, so everybody, like, I see, okay, Kim's got her kids doing some funny little TikToks

with Ice Spice, and I'm thinking, oh, that's nice. What a good mom. That's great. People tripping on that? Yeah. And then my girl tells me, hey, so actually, everybody's hating on her and saying that Kim is a clout chaser because Kim has not done a good job of getting acclimated to the new TikTok talk world, which is news to me. She's like 100 million followers. But she's a clout

chaser who had to go get ice spice. I'm like, no, she seems like a good mom who got fucking their daughter's favorite rapper to come through and hang out and make TikToks for 20 minutes. Like, it's not that big a deal, bro. And like, how the fuck are you going to act like Kim has lost her grip on the internet, bro? What it is? The Kim figures that shit is corny, and that's little kid shit, and it's okay. The bigger problem is with her kids singing ice spice lyrics. That's, I can see that thing. That's not, it's not, it's not. It's not, it's not. I mean. She said something about like my boobs, right?

Like I got a big butt, a big butt and some shit Kanye wouldn't want to do. Exactly what Kanye was saying. You'd be introducing his kids to explicit shit that they shouldn't be, you know, doing this. She put on the wig or whatever the case maybe and people wasn't feeling it. Me as a parent, me as a parent, I really don't give a fuck, man. Your kids want to, they want to do shit. They want to be creative.

They, you know, they want to imitate people they want to be like. And why not imitate, you know, performers, you know, people with artistic value. All the people she could look up to, I would say, Ice Spice has got to be near the, like near the top of the safe list, right? Like, she doesn't do anything sexual, violent, whatever. It's like, yeah.

I was feeling you? You're a nigga a month. Yeah. But even that, she had, she had to come up with a whole fucking different word just to make a song about eating pussy. Like, it's not like, I just, okay, rewind time. If I had a seven-year-old

when I was hanging out with little pump and shit and I fucking had my kid make a TikTok with a little punk. And then you know people are going to say, oh, well, little pump, bars about Xanax, right, right, right. How are you going to let your kid make a TikTok? What gives the fuck?

Well, it's better than Rondo number nine. Yeah, right. You know me? Like, but the thing is, look, I totally understand the lyric thing. And I could see that rubbing people the wrong way, especially because these are influencer kids. So they set the tone and the precedent

for the way the kids of society are supposed to behave. on TikTok and the type of content they're going to be consuming so I can understand that being objectionable but as far as like Kim cloud chasing to me that was a bigger look for Ice Vice than it was for them like hell yeah think about how big Kim is

yeah come on you're with Northwest him in no form or fashion cloud chasing if you spend your entire life wrapped up in the TikTok algorithm then you might actually believe that Ice Spice is more famous than Kim Kardashian right now because you have been basically lied to by the algorithm Kim is not like desperately thirsty,

thirstily, like, chasing after fucking like TikTok views all the time, you know? Like, am I wrong? Or did she do something similar with Jojo Siwa at a certain point when her kid was younger? Yeah, Jojo Siwa, she did have Jojo Siwa. And she was on, she went to her house. She did all of that with North.

You feel me? Whatever's Norfolk's into, she's going to see them. She's going to fuck with him. And I wish I could do that for my kid. Well, guess what? TikTok may not be here because Joe Biden is about to shut that shit down. Okay, let's wait on talk about that.

But like, the thing about it to me is that Kim could literally do this with any up-income artists. Like, she could do this with every fucking artist that their daughters actually listened to. They picked one and they did it. And yeah, maybe Ice Spice has some, like, slightly sexual lyrics, but in terms of rap songs, she's in

the bottom 10% of offensive rap. I'd rather her do that than that golf shit. Oh, you know what? Yeah. Who's under fire for that, too, Lil' baby? Because he went to the fucking Kids Choice Awards. Callie Breeze. But what did he do? Let him do his day. He was performing too, and they said his lyrics

were explicit and he should have been, he shouldn't been performing that song because he was talking about it. Don't they edit the fuck out of it? But that's on. I mean, of course you're going to have a clean version, but they're still talking about this is what the dirty version says. Nickelodeon booked them. They wanted some fucking views.

That's on the program director for not getting that handle beforehand. I mean, they know who the fuck. I mean, this is little baby. You want to do it? Little baby. Oh, let's go. They're like, I'm not for a little baby. Joe C-Wan.

But if you're a little baby and you walk up in the party there and you're just like, hey, what the fuck is up? Nickelodeonian. Nickelodeon. I don't even know who it was. You think they green slime them? Makes some fucking noise. They got Oozzie.

I seen a dude who went to the Nick and the Nick kids choice. Oh, Whoa. Oh. Nickelodeon Kids Choice Awards. He almost said it. You went to the Nickelodeon's Kids Choice Awards wearing a Balenciaga sweatshirt. Nickelodeon animal.

And I thought that was pretty funny, given the climate. Nobody don't give a fuck about no Balenciaga. That shit's going to go in one ear and out the other. Do you think their sales dropped? Yes. Yeah. For a little while. They don't go back.

For a little while, but you think like a year from now their sales are dropped? They sales dropped, but I don't think it just dropped super dramatically. I mean, because they would say like our people, black people, whatever, our culture, stop buying it. But we don't make up the majority of the population and still fucking consuming. I'm going to be real with you. The vast majority of people who had something negative to say about the Balenciaga shit, to me are like very terminally.

online conservative social media users. Not the people who were buying $800 fucking sweatshirts there in the first place. It was Gucci. You remember, they was like, oh, black people shouldn't wear Gucci anymore. You forgot about that shit.

The black turtleneck. Remember the turtle neck? Yes. Yeah, guess what? We're not keeping Gucci in business. We're not. I mean, you're partially keeping them in business.

For show black people. Not a variety. No, for show black people move the needle as far as like it being popular. Right. But we're not keeping them in business.

When I was at the Gucci store this weekend, I'm not gonna lie, it was probably like all white and Asian people. But definitely like people throughout history have won a fuckload of Gucci. And when hip-hop, there's been times where hip-hop doesn't embrace Gucci, then they're less relevant overall. That's real shit. Like, yeah, it happened.

Only thing our culture can kill is our own shit. Like Fubu, like Sean John, all that shit is. If it's bigger brands, we can't kill it. Don't you feel like if Gucci didn't do anything, to appeal to black people that they probably would still be like similarly big because my from my perspective they do almost nothing to appeal to black people like they did the little thing with Gucci with dapper dam but these things these are little blips on the radar in comparison to like the vast majority of their marketing they do nothing they are probably like the biggest or

one of the biggest brands in hip hop and as far as i know Gucci man was the first rapper that they ever did anything official with right yeah they stayed away from that for a long and that was in like 2020. That's fucking like after like 40 years of them being huge. And it's fucking obvious that they don't want you, they get to wear this shit. They don't care. They got Gucci one time.

They'll give you this little tiny droplet. I mean, because they, you got, you got fucking Virgil over here and he bringing all everybody over here with him. And now it's not copied. Yeah, no,

let's copy a little bit. We bring Gucci Man over here. Let's see what he does. Dapper Dan. Let's see what it does for him. Like, I don't think they really even, they only did the Dapper Dan thing

because they were under huge amounts of, fire because they had basically ripped off a lot of Daberdan's old designs and introduced like a new collection that was clearly influenced by his prior designs. And then of course, people have to make a big thing about it and say, hey, this is fucked up because, you know, he's not getting paid for this. You guys should have saluted him a long time ago. And so then they say, okay, we're actually going to do this, this and this is Debran. That's crazy too. Just thinking about it with everything Adidas got going on. I'm like, Gucci's been collaborating

with them a lot lately. I wonder if they're going to be like, we don't want to be a collabing with you guys anymore as well look look at what happened with the Tommy Hill figure though back in the day in the 90s all off a lot right Timmy Timmy Timmy here all off a lot yeah right that's crazy bro right like but it's crazy that at that point it's so for the record it was there was a folklore that was going around for a while there was basically saying that Tommy Hill figure went on Oprah's show and said we don't want buy people buying our shit never happened he was never even on the show and an email that rumor became so big that it had real consequences for Tommy Hilfiger as a brand.

It was also the movie, that's what I was quoting, bamboozled back in the day. Yeah. And they had, they had like a fictional Tommy Hilfiger and it was like, Timmy, Timmy, hill nigger. And I'm like, that too was like, put the icing on the cake to where it was like, black people was like, you know what?

You know what we shouldn't fuck with it. Tommy Hilfiger at that time went on a lot of different shows and like really tried to get the word out that he was not racist and had not said these things, but it like didn't matter. And it's weird because now it feels like with the internet being so connected, if there was a big racist scam,

and then it was disproven, it would be disproven, like, later that day. Right. There would be, now, granted, like, the controversial thing usually gets a lot more views than the thing debunking it, but I still feel like the debunking of it would have been, like, really, really big news. Like, it wouldn't have been hard for that word to get out to people. But this is, like, 1990. Yeah, yeah.

I was really upset, too, because I love Tommy Hill figure around that time. I really did. So when that shit happened, and we just was like, everybody was like, don't wear it. Like, it was, like, really some politics. He was like, hey, do not buy that shit. The first- And then you know who was right next to him? That got flagged too, that he,

then they didn't say anything was Nautica. Yep. Because they were right next to him because, you know, you know how you market it. You market next to your competitor. So Nautica and Polo. DKNY, Nye, Perry, L. All that shit.

Yeah. Whoever was sitting next to them and Macy's, fuck it. It's over with. They're on the clearance rack at this day. Yeah, DK&Y was hot. D-K-Y was fire, Nautica was fire. Yeah.

It all started with Tommy when a grand pooh-ba from brand new being was the first one to wear it. And then like Snoop Dog and then it just kind of like... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You watched his YouTube video. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forget who made it. Was it got seen? That was an amazing video.

Hello, Y Yassine? It might have been, yeah. That was a really dope video. Yeah, because it really helped me like realize, like, oh, Tommy Hilfiger didn't have to be a thing in hip-hop. It was because of like a certain, like, you said with grand pooh by and then snooping and shit. But like, because to me, coming into. like listening to rap in the 90s, it just seemed like, oh, Tommy's everywhere. That's just one of the most popular brands. Tommy was actually how I found out about bootleg jeans because there was a swap,

not a swap meet. Yeah, I guess it's a swap meet or like bullshit-ass like little thing in downtown flea market. Yeah, flea market in Nashville. Actually, that was it. And like, I never had been there, but there was a kid that would walk to school near me and he was like broke as fuck. And one day I see him wearing Tommy jeans and he got a huge Tommy Hilfiger like a logo on the back pocket, like the flag and I'm looking at it and I had never even owned some Tommy shit at all but I knew they were fake right away I was like there's something wrong with that and like everybody figured it out and then we realized it was mad other kids in school wearing clothes from the flea market and that's how I found out I didn't even know that shit existed before that I got some fake Jordans from there

before I really thought that Tommy Hill figure was racist too and it was apparently it wasn't just that remember they was talking about there was an email too that circulated yeah and they couldn't find the origins of it but it was supposedly from Tommy himself. Because we talk a lot about how bad people's media literacy is now, but like that's such an extreme example because it's like nobody gave a fuck.

Like nobody had ever been fooled before by some shit, so everybody just went with it. I remember for years and years and years thinking that, oh, Tommy Hilbert, he's a racist. We need to go back in time because one person I felt like I was real upset with, I found out she was racist with Lucille Ball. What happened with her?

Is that actually a thing, though? I don't, they were like, Lucy was racist, and I was like, hell, dog. She married a Cuban dude, right? I was a Lucille Ball fan. You don't watch that shit a lot of TV show? I used to watch that shit, isn't it like black and white?

Yeah. I don't know Lucy was fracking though. Was there just nothing else available for you to watch? I mean, Gilligan Island, Lucille Ball. This is a Gilligan island. And you don't think you're OG. Wow. You're not an unk.

What was that Army? What was that Army show called? MASH. MASH. I used to fucking hate they theme song when it's come on. No, no, no. That's how I got it. That's how I got in the Seinfeld.

I'm like, bro, I ain't got shit to watch, and I watched it one day and said, I've been watching so much of it lately. Seinfeld is wild. Bro, Seinfeld had so many good shoes on. Shoes? Joe Seinfeld? Bro. He had, he was a sneaker head.

You go back and look at it. He'd have a new bitch every episode. And damn fucking. Tight, though. But then George Costanza was a nigga. Kramer got canceled. George had some of the baddest bitches on the show, even though he's literally probably the most unattracted person you could ever dream up in a minute.

million fucking years. When he ate out the trash can and got caught. But you know why Jordan had the bad bitches? I was defending him at the time, too. And the oath, no, the trash can one? Yeah, it was right on the top. But the, it's on the top. No.

But the ultimate is when the fire happened, the little fake, and he ran past all the kids and pushed the old lady and the clown and shit. Amazing. That's fucked up that kids these days don't have like morning cartoons. They do. They have cocoa melon. They have stuff like specifically for them now.

Baby Shark and all this shit. It's like reruns I'm looking at. Y'all is Miss Rachel. If y'all, Miss Rachel, she is diamond out here. She's doing stupid views. I haven't seen it. But I went to Target and I seen she got a whole rack. I'm like, Miss Rachel booming.

Ms. Rachel is teaching him how to talk, sing. Like, I'm talking about words. So that's in New Sesame Street. What's the coming on? YouTube. Type in Miss Rachel. Is that like Mr. Rogers? It's a white lady who talks like a cartoon character and says,

Hello, today, you're going to be doing this? It's like, it's really hard to watch. at first, whenever you watch any of these shows. I still, I don't want to watch cocoa melon. It bothers me. I fucking hate Coca-Mellon and I'm tired of boss, baby, man. I hate having Coca-melon on, even in the crib. It bothers me, bro.

I just go, oh, Miss Rachel. She said, she hikes, she comes on, bye-bye. Say bye-bye. And my dumb ass sitting in there repeating it. Bye-bye. I'm like, she's teaching me how to talk. Is Parker on World Party? No.

That one irritates me to them. She's a world star. Whoa. Oh, no. Loaded up. We're going to watch these fights. Bro, that was, I ain't gonna lie. That was primetime World Star, the fight compilation.

I remember once I'm talking to this fucking girl, this white girl in New York, mid-20s type shit, right? And she goes, yeah, I had a job interview at World Star the other day. I'm like, I'm young enough at this point. This is probably like 2010. I'm like, you could just have a job interview at World Star. I didn't even know about that.

She's like, yeah, but it's crazy when you go there. It's like everybody's a white guy with a degree from Harvard and shit. I'm like, what? That's what this girl told me. So ever since, every time I look at World Star, I'm kind of thinking in my head, like, okay, like, can you see anything that makes it seem as if maybe there were some Harvard grads involved in this?

So you think they're coach of voters? I don't know what the fuck she was talking about. If there are people who work for Harvard in charge at World Star, I'm just not really seeing a lot of signs of it. RIPQ, that fool was an innovator. But they're definitely misspelling shit in those fucking titles on purpose. So when Q died, that's when World Star.

That's when they start going down. It went downhill. It was already. It was already got it down. It was on the decline, but it really took the nose die. But who owns it now? Some big ass media. What made Worlds to me, World Star stopped being less relevant when they had their own player

and it wasn't the YouTube player where you get actual plays. But that was before, like YouTube, right? No, it wasn't before. They had YouTube player and then they switched to their own player? Yeah. Their original player was a, you know. YouTube player. That's why my old battle league grind time, we need to deal with them. They were posting every single battle. And the views were going fucking crazy. Because like every time I go

on a World Star, it's just like, boom, skyballing. I went on there recently and I was like, you can't even watch a fucking video with so many ads. Like, it's just ridiculous. And it's just like, and it's trash rappers that haven't figured out that World Star is not relevant, still giving them like three racks to post their videos. I can't find the thing about why it is. I said, I pay World Star a few times and they get to post my video. Shit, everybody did. It kind of mattered back then, though, right? Yeah, it definitely did matter.

But it was a catch with them, too. And you being at the top of the shit, I was at the top, like, put my video up there and bread. That was the catch where it was like, look, we'll play this, we'll give you the top spot, but we're putting it on our YouTube and you are not getting the money for that. Oh, yeah. For a while, you didn't, and then they changed it. And now World Star is like 20 million subscribers and they get no views.

Damn, literally. I mean, like, you could get your video on there and you'll get like 30K. Maybe if you like, but it's a weird cheat code thing because it's like if you have like guns and lean in the thumbnail, you might be able to do better. But like most likely no. Damn, that's kind of, I don't know. With the sauce, you got to keep the people with the sauce. When you buy a company like that, then you fire everybody. I mean, hey.

Hey, as long as we're talking about Worldstar, remember when we all drove all the way down by the airport and we did big use podcast and we all were happy. We're like, this is cool. We did our. It still didn't even. No. It was like over a year ago. I'm saying that shit never coming out. But he has a deal with caffeine, so I think they probably come on here.

Maybe it came out on caffeine. We just never heard about it. But the thing about it to me is like World Star at a moment we're like getting talent, like somebody like a big you and saying, oh, we're going to do a podcast, we're going to give you money. It seems like they only did one season. That kind of thing would be like the kind of thing that would make World Star relevant as if they had dope original content. That got to come out. Any, any.

Because you calling T-Rail C-Rod was a movie. He called him that. No, that's what I said. He can't say, when you're gonna bring C-Rod back? Oh, you said, you called. I thought you said, you. You were like me. He's talking about T-Rill.

He keeps coming, hey, bro, where's C-Rod at? I'm like, who the fucking C-Ride? Where did he come up with that shit? No, this thing, T.F. still got me getting his phone. That's T-C-Ride. Oh, yeah, T.F was with us. That was a good one. The great unreleased Hoover 60s link-up of the year.

That was amazing. Never released. That's crazy. That's a moment. He got that content. That shit ain't going nowhere. Somebody going to buy it. Yeah, but can you imagine what we were saying?

It's probably some shit that's going to seem hell-a-dated. No, it was you in porn. Yeah, you're right. He was asked about porn the whole time here, Adam. He was, like, really effectually like, wait, you fuck bitches for a living? It makes it impossible for me to do most people's podcasts because if they're normies, they just want to talk about porn. I just did this poker dude.

Nick Vertucci, I drive all the way down the OC. I do his podcast. Talked about porn for probably like half of it. It's not my decision. I'm not going to nobody podcast. I already just made my mind. Hey, that's how I feel down too. I'm like, no.

If it ain't doing that shit, don't anybody. I don't know. If I ain't on Joe Butts, it's probably you ain't going to never happen. I'm not going, right? I'll get you on the brilliant idiots. People will go to that. Now, that's fire. I'll do that.

That would be the best thing ever if I could get you and Charlemaine on camera. Brilliant idiots and horrible decisions. Oh, you fuck with that? I like those. I want to see you and Charlotte Man do it one-on-one. I got you. You and Charleney need to do a one-on-one. No, I need to be in doing with Andrew, dog.

No, you're going to be like, I'm sorry, bitch, but... I didn't mean it. Charlamagne, I'm like, who the fuck are you? Like, you ain't did shit. Like, you called me the court chester. And I left my team because of it. Yeah. You fuck my life up.

You should show up to that podcast wearing a foil, Last King shirt. Duh, you fuck no. I'm parted with Adam now. Look what you did to be. I made something up out of myself. I was talking to you in the day. I'm going to ask some controversial questions. Oh, man.

I can think of a few you should steer clear of. The best thing ever is the Lil Mama interview. That's the best Charlemagne contract. I heard a lot of people said that comes off as bullying in this day and that is so mean. No, nigga. Oh, man. That thing is Safari was rapping, but freestyle. He was like, no, no, no, that shit ain't it.

Nigger, that shit is hilarious. Hey, how about Post Malone when he was selling to his girlfriend? He's, oh, yeah, he's going to leave you. He's about to get beat. No, he asked, what are you doing for Black Lives Matter? That one, too. He don't fuck with Post Malone at all. But that was back in the day when, like,

but that was like, he thought that it was going to be fucking, like, he thought that Post Malone was just going to be a random nobody. And it turns out he was going to be huge. Although, how big is Post Malone now? That nigga steals. But it feels like he's having a rough time. His song, though, his song with, his song with, with Swah Lee?

What is it the most? One combo. The most stream song of all time or something now? The sunflower song? What? The Post Malone song he got with Sway Leader. It just broke a record. I think it's the most stream song of all time or something.

His streams are, it's like, relevance-wise, he's still up there, but he's definitely internally unraveling. I mean, the motherfucker was drinking beer out of a fan's shoe, collapsing on stage. Like, he's having a rough time on that tour. And you wouldn't. You know. Oh, I can see it.

Yeah, you can see it. Take one to know one. It's because he's white. Could be. Could be. Can we call this podcast Gilligan Island? No. Even though that shit was good.

That was a good bar. I've never seen that shit on my life. Gilligan Island? No, but okay, you realize you're not adding Gilligan's Island. Gullagena, Gula Island, I'm familiar with. Gula Gula, Gila Island. Some shit you would never watch. You know naming this show.

Binya Binya. You know saying you name in this show Gillingen Island is so much of a bar for a person to use. God damn it. Yeah. And he will say you are the top of Gilligan. So what? He's a fake black guy. Anyway, the number's over.

That thing is over. Here's go. Oh, there comes a reaction. Here coming. 18,000 views. Here we go. We're going to be able to go get a sandwich from Subway after this. All right.

I appreciate everybody who will watch this. Appreciate y'all. Shout to T-Rail Lush, A.D. A. Whole lot of. Whole lot of. We out. Bow.