No Jumper - NORE vs Vlad! Boosie vs Rod Wave, Lil Durk Trial & More featuring Rios & Willy B

Episode Date: August 31, 2026

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Don't you wish you could just hit skip on the worst parts of your life? You know the same way you can skip an ad? I get it. I'm Siaia and I live in Ice Cove. I've made some questionable decisions that didn't end up the way I planned. And today I'm still figuring it out. Somehow things usually get worse before they get better. Apparently, that's how I roll.

So bundle up and come along for the bumpy ride. Don't miss the new season of North of North starting September 8th on CBC Gem. We are. We're doing an extendo session. We can talk about that. Hey, bro. See, that's what I'm saying, bro.

See, every time this that shit trap, Lord n'em be doing, that shit you just said, that's a slick subliminal. What? All this shit that's going on. Tupac murder,

a little dirt murder, and now you want to come in here talking about we doing an extendo session. Are you saying that because, you know, is that what it is? I'm not saying that because... No, bro, you coach your voters like

our guy. Guy said, I want to say his name, drink chaps guy. It's coach a boat of the shit going on. I've seen you with an extendo clip or two hanging out of your pocket. Cap. I'm not trying to bring that to the table, but if you're going to press the issue, then I'm going to talk about the fact that, wait, are we, are we movies only? Okay, it wasn't at first.

Cat. No, yeah, I've seen you with all kinds of crazy blicks. But I'm just in the mood to tell. I'm just in the mood to snitch. Oh, no. Adam, I'm going to be real. My woman got her CCW. You know why you talk.

I didn't see you a couple times with a nice little foety on you. You ain't seen nothing. What? On Vernon Avenue, you ain't seen nothing. Why you want to blow his shit up, like that was your guy? It's wordplay. So everybody just says. Hey, man, there's been some shit going on.

A lot of shit. It's a lot. It's a lot. Oh, Adam, for real. It's a lot. Yeah. If you think about it, you got Vlad. Versus Nori.

And Norrie. And that started with me. We text B-FIF. hour of the day. Let's fill in the blanks for the people out there. I don't know if you want to pull up a clip, but basically, Vlad,

when he did a recent interview on academics's platform, Vlad basically took it upon himself to say, F you to a couple of different people, one of which was Angela Yee. Apparently he's been on Angela Yee's podcast many times, and then she ignored him when he attempted to get her on Vlad TV. So he said F. Angela Yee. He also said F. Norrie,

which was kind of a surprise, because Vlad had previously been on drink champs did an episode that I think got like over two million views Vlad was very proud of it. I know he doesn't like go off to Miami and do an interview like on somebody else's platform that often. I think it meant a lot to him that that did so well and everything. He takes it upon himself to say Norrie F you and his reasoning why was because I guess

since that drink champs and probably even before that 2024. Right. Vlad has known Norrie for many years. He's always tried to get Norie on the platform. I think we all know that Norie on the platform would probably be a pretty good look. Would be like the kind of relationship. You know, Norie is damn near like a busi type character.

He's funny. He's got opinions about everything. He knows everybody. It would be a good look for Vlad TV. He kept giving him the runaround. So the point where Vlad finally explodes on him and says, hey, screw you, you know, you're a, you're a dick. You know, you're not keeping it real with me

because I've asked you to be on my podcast. so many times. And I guess at the same time, Norrie's doing smaller podcasts that are obviously going to get way less attention than Vlad. So they have a terrible falling out. Vlad explains it on the academics podcast. And then Norrie takes it upon himself this week to come

out with this clip that we will play you, although it would appear that are, you might be having a problem here with a login. Okay, we're just, you can't just go back or something? Wow, that's previous. There it is, there we go. All right, here we go. Sound on. Go quick, I didn't want to

rest this in front of y'all. I will. Rios is coming later, guys. Don't worry. It's an extender. Vlad TV, I don't front on everybody. I front it on you.

I did to you what you do to our culture. I bent you over and I fucked you. Pause. Yall of me. I believe one of the first things you did you said was you have black kids.

I would like to address something. Slave masters have black kids. Clue cuts plan members have black children. By you saying you have black children, you just say you like black tony. This does not exclude you. And this does not give you an invite to the barbecue. You ought to do that comes to the barbecue with pickles in the potato salad.

And raisins. And raisins. How did I know? Not pickles and raisins. You are so bad. You got pickles and raisins in your potato salad. And you know what? You pay your friends.

You pay your company. So we don't tell you your potato salad is trash. We don't tell you we hate you. You put me on the text with Saigon. I immediately text Saigon on the side. I said, you hate this guy, don't you? Saigon did not say no. And then I on the text with Saigon, I said,

listen, Vlad, Saigon don't like you. You couldn't come outside at one point if it wasn't with my son or security. And you know who that security was? It should have been the FOI. You know why you can't hire FOI? Because the one time, have you ever heard me beefing with Flagd TV?

Never, right? Because you know why the one time you heard me beefing with Vlad TV? Do you know what it was over? What? Him misquoting Farrakhan. So for the record, Vlad has apologized for his previous interaction and misquoting of Minister Farrakhan.

Give me your initial reaction. to what Nore has done here. Nope. This is the Adam and Wack show. So I'm going to give my brother an exclusive. Wow. Okay. God damn it,

because I'm going to show you where being Nory went at it for a hour. Yeah, because, okay, when I first saw this clip, a text Wack, and I more or less say, this sounds like some ho shit.

I feel like Nore in this whole clip is bragging about being fake. And you said, I already been on the phone with him for an hour arguing with him. It started at 6.47 p.m. Friday. I know. And then he responds at 11.17 p.m. Friday. But we rocked and rolled till 12.13. And I started off and I told him as a brother. I said, bro, you're my bro, but you're wrong in the Vlad situation. We stand on our. We stand on word. Right. He says, what situation? Oh, fuck that liar. He want to use me like a slave master. I ain't that n-k. What is the logic of the slave-master in a paid interviewe relationship? Like, is everyone a slave?

No, he said, I told him no five times how to fuck it my wrong, which I don't think he told him. Well, that said that there was no nose taking place. It was, I'll do it next month. I'll do it when I do this press, I'll do it. Then he went to the internet like a bitch. And Vlad was so persistent that Vlad at one point knows that Norrie's in L.A. And he hits him up and Norrie's straight ghost. That's how you know he's on this because he tells me, remember, this is Friday. Yeah. Fuck him.

And you know Slade Masters have black kids as well. So he's on that, right? He said, I'm wrong because I stand on what's right. Fuck him. He went to the internet. Now we're going to see the power, right? I said, bro. He said he did yours for a swat.

He said, I did three of his first checked in net. Now, right there. Back, way back, I think. Right, yeah, but here's a thing. 10 years. He releases the other promo clip where Norrie says, I thought about it. You got that clip?

You got that clip? Where he tried to use the Rick Ross shit. And I told Norrie, Norrie, you can't do that. He tried to use the Rick Ross thing as another excuse. He's just going with any old excuse. No, no, no, no, bro. just picking from the bucket of different things was popping into his head. He filed on Rick Ross.

Vlad filed on Ross in 08. Right. You did Vlad in 15, 17, and Vlad did you in 24. So if the raw situation was in fact the situation, you wouldn't have never did Vlad after the fact. You know what I'm saying? It's revelatory to realize that Norie knowingly invited a slave master on drink champs.

But here's the thing. What a move. I'm going to be real. I know Noi, that's my brother. I'm going to tell you what ticked him off. Sure. Vlad said, you're just mad because my kids are blacker than yours. Ooh.

That did it. That's a flex. That did it. Now, Norrie, me and Norrie. Truth bomb. What do you mean? Truth bomb. That's just a hilarious thing for a white dude to say to a black dude.

in an argument. He said that. That's just so cool. Nori being Nori was probably going to do Vlad, but Nori just probably been on doing what Norrie does. So when Vlad went to the internet, it was just all beds off. Okay, let's say the quiet part out loud is that I think

when we talk about Angela Yee, when we talk about Nori and why they might be hesitant to go on Vlad. I think that there's an extent to which even though Vlad I think has like largely emerged from the cloud of controversy that really kind of enveloped his brand in the first 10 years maybe. I think the Vlad is like viewed as like a more beloved platform at this point. But I do think that there's still a little bit of a stench on Vlad TV with the old heads especially because they view it as this Fed platform or whatever. They know that this is the same platform where allegedly people have snitched on themselves or Vlad has asked federal questions or whatever. And as much as like, okay, Angela Yee with she cares.

She's not a street person. Norrie is not a current criminal or whatever. I still feel like some of them have an aversion to going on Vlad TV because of that. And even the slave master thing that Norie immediately goes to and I feel like he's doing so disingenuously. It's like, it's just a little bit of a vibe of this old white guy running this gigantic hip hop platform that certain personalities. They'll fuck with them. They'll have them on their platform, but they don't want to go on his platform because, and hey, whatever I'm saying is doubly true for No Jumper. You know, a lot of people view No Jumper as being the platform with all the gangster shit and all the crime talk and all the self-snitch and whatever.

It's bad. I don't like it either, but Vlad still has some of that, and I think that that's what keeps nor do you have bad. We cannot not like, but we can't control. If a motherfucker don't want to come up here and say, no, I didn't have it on a hoodie that day. I robbed him in the tank top. You can't blank. Oh, see, he said it on no jumper.

Hey, bro, we didn't know. Listen. Now, I get the bad rap because when a dude starts saying shit, I start pot. Right. Hold on. So you're saying. Yeah.

Right? Because he just says. See, in order for me to say you're saying, is because you just said something, so I'm trying to get clarity. So they say, well, whack, you egg it on. Well, if you're watching no jumper, it's a reason you're watching no jumper.

Yeah. Because how we address the content, right? They want to hear some real shit. So if we don't, they're not watching. If we do, I guess you're going to leave a comment in the chat. So I'm not changing nothing. Yeah. What are we going to do?

What am I going to do? Am I going to like, consciously when I interview a rapper who I know has a murder charge or beat a murder charge or did 20 years in the feds or whatever like what am I going to do differently like I want to know about your life like am I just going to hold back from asking like so what was the life having four iPhones you want to know your secret you had four iPhones in your ass what was that like I want to talk about it you want to watch Vlad explaining his issues with uh with no bro six nine is going nuts Hold on, hold on.

Are we done with this? Oh, no. Let me see. All right. Did you not see this originally? He's going to fucking screw you. Norrie's about Norrie. You know, his word don't mean shit.

He's a snake. That's the way I look at it. I don't fucking know how aggressive. Last I was in Miami, like he told me he's going to do it, but then just wouldn't give me a time or a date. And it's getting close to the end of my trip. And I'm still getting the run around.

And it turned into like, we started basically talking shit to each other over text. And at the end, he's like, you know something, man, I'm sorry. You know, you my friend. Like, I'm tripping. You know, you're right. You know, when I come to L.A., we're going to do this. Whatever else comes to L.A.

calls again. And then I've seen him do a media run with like Tony A.O. and them and like do like a bunch of smaller. Doing a bunch of small podcasts. And I was like, man, fuck this, bro. Fuck this dude. And me and him, we got into a big fuck you back and forth. He's going to fucking screw you.

I like that. Yo. This is the new Vlad. Like, old Vlad was kind of like reserved. He wouldn't really like beef with people that aggressively. Now he's out and popping. And I'm going to let you know, Noi for the record. Vlad definitely came to my barbecue on the 4th of July.

You guys both talk about that so much. And he brought nothing. So you're accusing him. I'm bringing carrots and raisins and shit. He brought nothing. And I'm going to tell you why he brought nothing. It's because I told him he didn't have to bring nothing. Yeah. Offered to bring some shit.

And yes, he had his black baby mama with him. Ah, well, she hasn't had the baby yet. Well, she's with chat. Because he has an ex that was black. And that's when he says that his kids are blacker, that's who he's talking about. Now he's moved on. I've been talking to Vlad a lot lately, and he is such a, fascinating person because he knows exactly who he is and what he likes.

That's a fact. And if you want to be in Vlad's world, you just have to like be down for what he's saying. Like he's just uncompromising. He knows exactly what he's been talking about the other. I know what you're talking about. All kinds of things. Yeah.

Yeah. He's just, he's just, yeah. Bro is what it is. He's straightforward. Yeah. And that's it. So this is why I know he was like, okay, Nora will come out for you. And it's been two years since he did it.

So I know Vlad's been trying to get his interview. I know every time he's coming to Miami, I've been out there with him at least two, three times. I know he's hit Norrie up. Like, hey, bro, I'll be out there a couple days. Can we get it in? Right. But do you agree with me that Noria is just like basically doing a podcast clip where he brags about how fake he was to Vlad? Because the other thing you could have done, Norrie.

He admitted it. He admitted it. is just say, hey, man, I don't really feel you like that. I ain't going on your show. That would be what a real person would do, right? I just feel like Norie's like justifying bad behavior in that clip. He wanted to keep the relationship cool with Vlad, but not have to go on his platform. Once Vlad pushed it, Norie just started inventive reasons why he don't like Vladimir.

They're watching this out there. Now, if you tell, what's our camera guy? Michael. Mike. Grab my Uber, Mike. Yo, so. Why you have an Uber? uh oh briefs you just ordered some food because you gave me a certain time so i didn't want to

stop so i just ordered it so you're going to be eating here you're going to be doing a little almighty suspect what is it a smoothie oh that's your ozempic diet i don't fuck with ozimpy they say that that shit makes niggas go blind you can't risk that munchy's gonna have way too many jokes um okay i uh he'd be ahead of me He'd be more of skilled of living in it That's true, yeah You know what I'm saying? You're gonna be bumping into shit

He's out here just gliding around like Daredevil Now Since you mentioned Munchy Oh good You got really mad at me about something You can never get mad to be about What? Because right here

In your ability I knew what you were doing He admitted To take an Uber's He did it Oh, here we go Bro, did he not? One time.

He admitted it. He said, yeah, I take fucking, he said, I don't know why he said it. I just seen it on a clip about it. I didn't, had nothing to do with me. He was in here. Okay. So you could no longer get mad at me about saying that, because you were real pissed off when I said that.

I just don't like anyone trying to, like, leak information to put people in danger or whatever. Oh, so you guys. Did you not hear what I just said? A Robeck's smoothie. Well, I mean, okay. He admitted it, bro. can't get mad at me. What is this?

You got a sandwich? No, that's the avocado. Classic avocado toast. You really are with the rasa, aren't you? Avocados rafa? Rasa? Yeah. Well, I guess I am.

I love avocado. I love that shit. See, there you go. Maybe you're not such a racist. That shit wrong. Yeah. Pause. Okay.

What's our next topic? I mean, we got to just start with this. Dirk on trial yesterday. OTF Jam takes the stand, airs them out, basically just says, yeah, he paid me to do all this shit. That ain't even worse. That ain't even the worst part.

Yeah. What? This other dude, and his other dude, Bonnie, he haven't got him a stand yet. Yeah, that's going to be a big one. They just in the opening remarks they kind of touch bases on what's going on. Right. Jam don't even count.

Okay. He just verifying, yeah, we killed him. I was there. He did it. Yeah. Right? And he's touching on I was told to do it and didn't know that that's what I was there to do. With these people that I think are weenies, this is what he's holding against dirt.

Told him, get on the plane, he gets here, they get here, they're on their way up to San Diego. FaceTime happens, and all of a sudden he's being told that you're all here to get rid of Kwondo with this group of people. Okay. And this wasn't, I guess, his common group of people. The way he's trying to make it sound like it's a little bit of a spur of the moment thing. He didn't know that's why he traveled across the country. He didn't know. That's what he said.

All right. I mean, it sounded like he was killing so many people that, yeah, it wasn't that big deal to him. So he's saying he never got it directly from him, but he got it from the middleman. And the middleman is this Vani dude who's saying, you paid me. and gave me instructions to have these guys go unalive this guy. But this is what nuts. I'm like, yo, him and King Vaughn had just met, what, five, six years prior to that. King Vine was part of OTIF but wasn't signed to Dirt.

Jammed in No Vaughn. Novine. You're talking about dirt in Vine. So it's kind of like, I think 6-9 is the reason why Dirk was on what he was on. Well, let's be fair, that may have agitated Dirk to see that clip, but 100% Derek was already getting people knocked off before that. And he, the ultimate person he was going to want to get knocked off was Kwan Do or a little Tim. bro he wasn't going to chill out until that happened i i don't think he was getting shit knocked off

i'm gonna tell you why i keep bro they didn't respect dirt like that it's one it's one key thing that they keep saying they asked him for 500 to a million if their respect was there like that is never a request going down like that bro all these dudes people right outside of jail. Right. So that's a press move on Dirk. To ask for that much. What?

I mean, that is so much more than the average market value of a murder. That's what I'm saying. It's almost like an extortion attempt. And also like, okay, you just said it. We think Dirk has so much money. A million dollars is still a float. And I bet a lot of us have an inflated idea of how much money Dirk has. Bro, listen to me.

Yeah. The fact that they. asked him for that. Let's me know. Dang, rock with a dude like that. 500 to a mid for a body? Think of a what? Yeah.

It's an important body, but yeah, no. We're talking about a dude disposed and got out on all our partner. That's on the strength of our partner. Right. May his soul rest in peace. But yeah, dirt will be getting paid. The fact that they're saying,

this is why when you say, dirt got, I don't know, bro, maybe it's the persona, the rap music. I don't know. And the fact that this dude said when he saw the WAC 100 and 6-9 interview. You're so proud to be a part of this? No, it's what it was. No, I'm going to be real. It wasn't even my fucking interview.

That's the crazy part. It should be the academics and 69 interview. Because it was on academics platform. You were co-hosted with him, right? But they don't even mention act. It's cool. Yeah. Because when he mentions-

Well, Act doesn't speak in that particular. a clip and to be fair you don't antagonize it at all. I said I don't even know the motherfucker. If anything like 6'9 probably wishes that he had been able to get his rant off better without you trying to interrupt him. I said look bro, I don't even know King Bond, never heard of him. Really, I think King Von and Nipsey shared out in common they were both bigger to the world after they death.

People knew who they was, yeah, but you know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know, so. So you tell me, when all these. different people are taking the stand and saying that Dirk directed them, paid them, et cetera to kill people. Like, where does Dirk go from there?

What possible defense does he have that contradicts that? Now, here's the thing. But they're going to come with and say how much they had this, this, and this on you, right? How much time was you facing? 30 years, 40 years, 50 years? Okay.

So you gave him this information to get a time deduction. Yeah. So you didn't catch when Brian stealing them at the beginning with the officer said that people often to tell you anything to get some time off, right? Right.

And he was like, yeah. So now bonding them is going to have to prove what he's saying is the truth. But they can't. It's just, I had this conversation. There's no recording. but in the eyes of a juror once you've seen 10 different people

take the stand and say hey this guy directed this guy paid for this I mean like Jam said he never talked to him direct okay but Vonny won't no body gonna say now let me tell you what looks ugly they have the BMW

at Dirk's house right stalking Cuando coming back to Durk's house leaving, taking the guns to meet the fellas. So this BMW is right at Dirk's house. So they know, okay, you and this guy are somebody. He's at your house, your home where you're staying.

So, and for them not to, like, use that, then it's like, as you would say, it's massive amounts of people in jail behind what somebody said happening. They convicted them with it. So they're not just going to say, okay, well, we don't have a recording or we don't have a text message, we're not going to believe this dude.

They're going to believe this dude because they tie him directly to you. Yeah. And the idea of one person snitching on Dirk and just making stuff up is possible. But once you have 10 people kind of telling the same story, that just becomes a lot harder for the average juror to believe. And in addition to that, when they're able to introduce all kinds of other little bits of evidence, It's not to mention the lyrics in which he's like really like literally describing,

paying for this sort of thing in many ways. I mean, it's just at this point, it's so hard to imagine Dirk emerging from this. I heard the song, the federal song, whatever the, he was like, it's what you need attorney for when your homies is telling on you.

You don't tell on you. Like, it's like he, like, and now that he's going down for it, it is so breathtaking that he was willing to say so many of these things in his songs just as if it would never show up in court. Like, it's just astounding that somebody could have been doing real murders for hire

and then also just completely rapping about it in real time in many cases. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's like they targeted Dirk, they targeted Trap, they're targeting his woman. They're telling on Dirk, they tell her no Trap. They tell her no Trap. And they're trying to fuck his girl, bro. Wait, who's telling on Trap? Chicago. Well, they're mad at him. What do you mean? They told the fucking cops

Trap-hats metal glasses searching. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They tell him on Dirk on the stand, Dutty Lowe trying to hit his girl. Don't you feel like the, wait, you think Dutty Lowe's try to hit Dirk's girl? You didn't see it? I've seen a clip of her giving him a hug

that made me feel like she hates Dug Lug Lime. Her not giving him shit. She's walking out. Duty spots her. Locks in. Hey! and wraps around it. I get,

one thing I know about Dirk, he don't play that shit. Bro. I guarantee you he's never allowed none of them people to just walk up and hug his woman. Why not? Give her a hug.

That's not a good. Dutelo is probably around her so much over the years. But this is the thing. Her vibe as she's walking out of the federal courthouse is like that of like a widow because she is not stupid.

She knows that this is probably like a 90% chance that this guy, going away and that your family life is ruined that you're going to have to move on this is this is going to be the worst then you got duty low who's off perks and juice and he's having a good old time hey what's going to run man he's inexplicably named in this fucking uh uh whole thing he's co-co number foe who you oh brig baby an apology for claiming that it was brick baby on flyt tv um brig baby even wrapped about it in our free dirk song he said leave it up to whack he'll tell you i'm Cocoa number foe.

Did he? But then I can now air this out, well, not really aired out, but at the time that we were making that song, Rick told me who Cocoa number foe was, but it was not duty low. It was someone completely different, somebody from L.A., somebody who's currently locked up up. Why I knew like five days ago it was Dutty Loe. Yeah, Rydro. Because he told me.

Rermo, no. He told me. Duttylo told you. Yeah, Duttylo FaceTime me. Make sense to that for me. How does Dutelo not have a charge and is not a rat? Like, how does, how could he not be there? When he FaceTime me, he told me, his attorney told him that if they pick the jury and they don't indict you, you're good.

So today, he called me pissed off because he sent me a screenshot where I said, if duty low ain't arrested in five days, I'm going to be scratching my head. He said, why would you say that? I said, bro, OTF Jam just got on the stand and said, you gave the order for they. hit. Yeah. Right? Wait, he said, duty low ordered it?

That's what he said. That's what Jam said? Okay. Now, this is what fucked me up. Duty Lo responds and says, I knew exactly what Jam was going to get up there and say. So that means you was already questioned. Hmm.

You've been in custody. Okay. For you to know exactly what Jam was going to get up there and say, that means you've been questioned. Okay. Either you've been questioned or what Jam is saying is the truth. You get what I was saying? So if you're saying Jam's lying, that means the fans have already set you down

and let you know what Jam is saying. Right. So he's like, whack, man, you know, can you not con, I said, bro, this shit is content. What are you talking about, not con, you're trying to fuck dirt girl. Why is it weird? Coke is the number four? Why do you think he tried to fuck his girl? Yeah, that's about.

Dirk's hot about that. He gave her a hug. I bet he won't give her another hug. Go, what, play this clip right now. Look at that. Put it on the screen. I bet he won't give her another hug. This is my favorite clip of all the time.

She don't even move her arms. It's not really much. Look at it. It's not much of a hug when she doesn't move her arms in any way. If anything, she was just accosted. That's the problem. You got a fatty on her. Um, man, I'm just saying.

That shit is crazy. Like the last thing that I would ever take from that is the idea that they are fucking. I'm not saying they are doing nothing. She wants nothing. I'm not putting nothing on Little Dirt's Queen. I think Dutty Lowe made a play. Bro, she looks at people like Dutie Lowe and thinks,

these fucking assholes are the reason why I'm going to be raising my kids without a man around. these guys are the reason why I'm not going to be hopping on any PJs anytime soon and getting a jet set all over the world. She looks at these guys as the reason why her happy home fell apart because as much as

Dirk was probably going to do all that shit regardless, having people around like Dutie Lowe who are, she knows that he's probably the one bringing drugs around. He's probably the one cooking up ideas. Like, hey, let's get this guy killed. She obviously wants to blame it on other people besides him.

It's just like, it's just crazy to see it in her body language right there. She will not raise those kids alone. There will be a basketball player, baseball player. I'll do it. I want to be down with OTS so bad. I'll take care of his kids. I mean.

Somebody will come into her life. But I'm going to tell you this. I think little dirks in there for peer pressure. I think 6'9 is the reason why what motivated him. The culture of retribution that he grew up in in Chicago is the reason why he ended up in the situation. It's not like 6-9 invented the idea of like, oh, if somebody kills your homie,

you got to get someone to kill him. Like, duh, that's what the whole thing is. He amplified the slide for Vaughn's slot. If wasn't none of that shit going on, everybody would have just kept living. 6-9 made the slide for Vaughn meme hot, but that meme was a thing regardless, and it was going to be a thing regardless.

was gonna always follow. He amplified it. He made it worse when he said, oh, you see they don't really say that no more. I mean, that was like the most modern way. They're gonna do nothing. Yeah. That's what he's pumping.

No, but he said that to act. He said, you see they don't really say Slavon no more. Well, they slid. But people didn't immediately interpret it as meaning like, oh, look, low-palb got killed,

so now y'all can't say that. The Brick baby comes on no jumper, and he says it. And I heard Dirk was mad at Brick for saying it. Hell yeah. Because Brick's too close to them. He said, you see, ain't all right to say that, no, boy. Then he said, little pop.

He said it. What's funny, though, is that that was like Brick's tryout to be on no jumper damn near because that was the last podcast before he got hired it. Him and Flacco just did an episode together. Flacco was telling me to hire Brick, and then he got hired right after that. So as much as that was crazy, that might have been Brick thinking, like, I got to say some wild shit if I want to get this job. I'll tell you this, bro.

And then his father, no disrespect, you Muslim. Dirk's in there on trial for a very violent offense. And you guys are in the front. Chasing Tramilar around. A foreign white guy because he's simply reporting what's being said in the trial. He had to double up on his security. Trappler came through with two guards. today.

Yeah. But he's standing on this shit. But he also said that the Dirk people were not outside today. And I don't know if that was throughout the whole day, but that's kind of interesting if they're like going to just sort of bail out. Like they're not going to just hold it down the whole time. I mean, who has time to stand outside of court? I mean, not only that.

Shit, maybe they got some brains. Hey, look, bro. Because. They see how it's going. The jury. The jury's not secluded. Yeah. They're seeing the shit.

Yeah. That's true, yeah They're going home and watching Flacco videos Realistically Bro, they're watching anything related To that trial I would be

Right? So, okay, this motherfucking dude He got people in the front Ready to whip trap lord's ass Yeah, he's his cave He's cave If I go there, we were talking about going there tomorrow

I'm not bringing security Well what? They ain't gonna happen It looked like one of the little dudes That was here Who? What, one of the dudes out there? That was him,

the light skis and do it with the braids bro. That was what cuff him them. Oh, yeah. Oh, actually, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was the one talking crazy. Oh, yeah, to Ross? Yeah.

I mean, everybody out there just trying to get a clip. They're just a bunch of streamers and shit. So, you know, they're just out there, like, just trying to make something having Kanye went today. Yeah, I've seen that. MGK went at Dirk's request on Monday. Dirk, MGK said that Dirk asked him to go, which is kind of interesting.

So he's calling in the big dogs. I wonder, Jake Cole. What about Drake? Unfortunately, the fans don't give a fuck about a feature. They don't care about an MGK feature? Listen, I told them when they called and asked me I can help participate in some shirts or whatever, whatever. I said, bro, the jury's in the courtroom.

They don't give a damn about what's going on outside, bro. This ain't no damn album promo. So I don't know if y'all are just doing it for the media because they were saying nobody was showing up at first. Really? Yeah, it was a little light. I'm like, the people that should be there should be there, bro. But you can go out there and pass out all the free dirt shirts.

It's not going to make a difference on whatever the outcome is going to be. Right. Hey, I made a free dirk anthem. Go bump that, me, Traplore, and Brick Baby. So I don't know if they are going to give me credit for being the free Dirk advocate that I know I am. No, because since then. You went in an interview, six, nine. Sure.

And also a ton of GDs, a ton of derk haters, King Yella. King Yeller. Oh, man, he loses his top. This is his finest hour. He loves this. This is like the best. This is like Christmas for him for the next few weeks. And I'm like, bro, why is they screaming a man snitch?

He ain't snitch on nobody. Yeah. He hasn't got on the stand and said anything. That's why they're mad at Ross is because they said that they were screaming at Ross. Delete the tweet. Which I don't really think there was a tweet. I think it was an Instagram reel where he basically... He said some bullshit.

I mean, he made a little bit of an error. He spoke about Dirk and Dirk's legal team putting it all on Vani, which is what he said. No, he said, Dirk. He said Dirk is putting it on. Put it on by D. And he kind of like neglected to fully emphasize that it was going to be put on Vani, regardless because Vani had taken credit for it. and that that pain

and even that right there like Ross did get the technical details correct it was just a little bit of an omission that made it look a little that Ross did what he was supposed to do listen he's doing some journalism and he's still trying to get the clips

Ross didn't win crazy Ross is a scapegoat because these people are so angry at the idea that Dirk is going down and they want someone to blame but they don't have anyone to blame besides Dirk who you can't really you know that's their guy they don't want to blame him I guess they're probably mad at Jam and Bonnie and stuff like that but they can't really get at them

so now we're going to pick on the white guy who realistically I would say Ross's coverage of Dirk tends to be a little bit more sympathetic than the average news organization the L.A. Times has absolutely no reason to get behind Dirk or support him in any way somebody like Ross at least he likes the music. If there is a pro-Dirk narrative to be had, I think Ross is going to latch on to it a little bit before the LA Times. So I feel like a lot of this anger is really kind of misplaced. I'm hearing a lot of things being said in court.

That's just, you know, gibberish, small talk, you know, they said this, this, that, this, that, this, Vani dude. I don't know when he's getting on the stand. but if he gets up there and pulls a little woody Dirk got action That's your big idea He's that he's going to get up there and act like a retard I don't know what his plea deal is

I don't know what he copped to what he's looking at Jim say he copped to a murder or two Three I think And he's still looking at 20 years they're saying Don't you think it's probably like the kind of 20 That they're going to be trying to chop down If he actually does successfully help Derek get locked up

Well, shit. I mean, murders get you life, so I don't know if they went from life to the 20. But if he, yeah, if he gets 20, honestly, 20 is a gift. If he just got three federal murderers, I mean, that's insane. Like, yeah, 20 is a gift. If he does 16, 18, whatever, I mean, that's probably, you know, come out when he's 40-something. I mean, there's still life to be had after that. But, I mean, what's his experience going to be like in the feds?

He goes to have to be locked away, not near any of the real gangsters. You go to the cheese factory. Yeah. this is a high profile rat. This is this is top-rated nitrous rat. OTF Jam going to be the best interview of the year in 2046. That's going to be the best. Can't wait.

I'm tuned in. I'm subscribed to No Jumper and Cam Capone in advance. We'll be on an Elon Musk rocket to space somewhere. Not me. I'm still going to be talking about OTF Jam. You think so? Hopefully. Hopefully I follow this thread until the end of my existence.

Yeah. Love talk and be over with. I mean, 20 years, like, what do you think I'm like at 62? A asshole. Yeah, that's it. Stands to reason. Probably not going to change too much. Yo, I met your guy big deal for the first time.

I saw you put your fists on his chin. I mean, you know, hey, listen, man, I showed up Dolo. I didn't see the clip. I just saw a screenshot of you both of you. both of your fists on the chin. I'm like, what is this? Like, where do they do that? No, I was letting him know he got little stubby arms

and I got more reached than him. That's true. And normally a criticism of you would be that you have a little stubby arms. Yeah, he is a little rock-em-sock him robot. He looked like a mini-fridge. Like a keg. He looked like a keg with arms.

It was a lot of crazy shit went on in that segment. And I come to realize that he totally just does not like T-Rill. Big deal. Yeah, he don't like that. Really? I haven't really watched anything of them like together in recent years. He knows not like that dude at all. Really?

At all. He's jealous. He's a little envious. What he's saying? Listen, you ain't never been, did no Crippin. You doing everything off my motherfucking name. Yeah. And you stingy and I should be taken care of.

I told T. That is Cain and Able. But he says that to Tiro? He said it. Really? You know, I'm antagonizing the shit. No, I love that. I'm bringing it out.

Really? I'm baiting this shit, listen. Oh. He said it. I'm like, whoa. Right. They really got into who did what and what, who ain't what, nits, and all kind of shit. Really?

Wow. Yeah. Then we come to realize that T. Real really had an issue what got terminated by Tiger because the break-in of the house. Tiger's house got robbed and Tiger blamed it on. T.Rell? No. He said, they said T.R.R. was good. At the time, I didn't know who his brother was. They said, but he's too close to his brother. We know his brother did it. They really thought Big Deal did it. They told me that in 2022.

Well, to be fair, Big Deal has been hired to do security for TIGA as recent as like a year ago. That's what he was saying. Why would he hire someone? Because he was saying, I can talk to Tiger right now, but you can't. He told Tirel this. Tirole said I would never want to work for Tiger ever again in life. That's going down to TOTOMPO. I'm pretty sure that TIG is one of the only people that TRIL follows on Instagram. I can look at it as not. But I, at some point in the past, I noticed that TRL had done like the cool guy, unfollow thing where you like unfollow everybody, you know?

Did he? And, uh, yeah, Ty, well, now he follows 150 people. But at this time, he had unfollowed down to like five people or something. like that. So I clicked it and one of them was Tyga. And notably, like, his girl and his kids and stuff weren't, I don't know if his kids of Instagram, but like, I just stood out to me as like, one of the only people they follow was Tyga. At that moment, I'm like, oh, he probably has a Tiger interview coming out or something. But then that never happened.

No, I don't know. I don't know. There was a clip of Tiro like trying to talk to Tiger at some concert, some stadium, like, or like, Taiga's walking. And this is probably within the last year, and T-Rill kind of like cozies up next to him. You can kind of see him, like, talking to him. But, okay, at the risk of getting labeled as having T-Rail derangement syndrome, much like the very common whack derangement syndrome, this is my read on Tyga, is that he has so much shit that, like, could be put out there about him. he dated Kylie Jenner on camera on TV when she was 16

he's been attributed to have had sex with like tons of trans women all over L.A. Oh, Tyga. Like I've had trans women on the podcast say Tyga has f***ed every trans woman in L.A. I'm not saying it's true. I'm saying that trans people say that, have said that to me as if it is gospel.

I think as a result, Tyga does not want to do anything that involves his actual personality. I think Tiger's worst nightmare is going on a podcast where he has to really be himself for a couple hours in a row. What do you mean he had sex with a bunch of trans? A bunch with a bunch of men.

Well, they've got bulls and mouths and dicks as well, I guess. I don't know how it worked. I don't know if he's the top or bottom. That's just what the streets are saying. The trans streets. Now I'm visualizing him and YG and lipstick and wigs. bro they did that like what you mean

you're saying they might have just already been like that that wasn't for the video I mean bro maybe maybe maybe he was like you know what I want to see what I look like because if you're telling me I never knew he dealt with allegedly I mean Tiger alright I didn't Lord have mercy shit

Well anyway all I'm saying is that Tiger has been able to like really kind of coast by people don't seem like they want to pay attention to the Catholic genis stuff like it's just not controversial even though it would be such a big controversy. What does his album do the first week? Everybody else. I think it did horrible.

Everybody knows it's just an AI album, right? It's a what album? AI, it's all AI. Oh, he's not on it at all? Well, his robot version of himself, I guess, is on it. But anyway, like Tiger don't want people to know him. He just wants to be able to be this like celebrity that people don't feel. the need to like probe deeper into pause AI

you're looking up AI is it gonna it's not even showing that this album no it's called what's it called stars something it sold roughly 2,000 units in its first week and failed to debut on the Billboard 200 chart honestly even that is is almost like a shockingly high number 2000 units yeah them lefty gunplay numbers honestly I mean a little bit higher

Lefty gunplay was like $5.50. Yeah, yeah. But 2000 units in its first week, the only hype or attention that I saw about it was due to the fact that pitchfork gave it a zero. And then he responded and basically said, which was pretty funny,

he said that the devil uses pitchforks, which is, that was funny. Okay, they... That's like 30 million streams. Pitchfork said, the rappers, Slop Pop Concept album is smug and complacent and depressing. Its very existence has made the world a worst place. Oh shit.

I mean, yeah. Having not heard it, I'm going to assume that I would feel the same way. 0.0. I don't know if they've ever given anyone to 0.0. I'm not going to argue it. Can you go to the topics? Crazy. What else we got here?

Yeah, we got dirt. Okay. Kanye showed up today, OTF, blah, blah, blah. I see what Woody says. Yeah, we now know that Woody does not like, they doesn't like, where am I going with this? He doesn't like Doody Lo. That's a beef that I was at least a little bit surprised by.

Somebody took his watch? So Doody Lo, notably, like there's a narrative going around that OTF has been getting picked off since Dirk went down because, you know, Bay Zoo got killed in a parking lot in Chicago. Duty Loe got robbed in Atlanta, and I think they took his necklace and his watch or something. You know, all these situations with the OTF guys that didn't seem like they were really happening before. And now they're kind of like bag in the hood doing random side missions and bad things start happening to him. So Woody's basically just like rubbing it in that, uh, that duty low got a shit's hook.

Doody Load did a whole thing defending why he got his shit took when we interviewed him but you know, happens to the best What he mean? Why? I forget what he said. You know, somebody robbed him.

Somebody got to drop on him. This Rod Wave name. Rod wave beefing with Busy. Yeah, but I'm reading everything and it looked like it's not even Boosie's song. So what I heard. Somebody else owns the Masters. Maybe we could look this up.

But so basically, I guess, Rod Wave has made, according to Bussey, like 10 songs that essentially interpolate or borrow from Boosie songs. So I guess Rod Wave is a huge Boosie fan or whatever. I know a lot of people are. But basically he's saying, Boosey's saying, I never asked for money. I never sued you. I've never asked for credit. But you just did it for the 10th time.

and you can't even ask me to hop on a song. Basically, Boosie feels like he should have been treated better in this whole thing, which I didn't know about. I don't listen to Rod Wave like that. And I definitely don't listen to Boosie like that, honestly. Should we check it out? Should we listen to Boosie? We got to listen to Boosie first and then Rodway.

All right, here we go. Boosie responds to Rodway following their heated exchange. Well, what was the heat of exchange? Yeah, I think you're playing these out of order. I mean, where was the heated exchange? Got to be a heated exchange, right? Rod Wave responds to Busy and reveals he offered him 100K. Okay, that's still not the original thing that Busy said?

Shut out, Remo for not providing links for this. You gotta keep going, right? Because he did a lawsuit. Oh, he did do a lawsuit? Yeah, he made a lawsuit. Rod Wave went off. Whoa, okay. All right.

Let's uh, check this sound. Hey, boozy, man, you need to cut that shit out, man. You're talking about letting it go. I ain't letting shit go, no, you're a fucking hole. You broke my heart, threatened a nigga with a lawsuit. Actin like a bitch, I got like one of these holes or something. You threaten a nigga with a lawsuit, you threaten to take a nigga to court. Like a fucking police, like you, what the fuck.

I knew you, I knew from a jump. I had an sample so many of Trill, found a record label. uh property i i sample so much and interpolated so much of the music i already had a relationship with your label i knew from the jump you didn't own the music so when i reached that and i offered you a hundred thousand dollars fam you said that wasn't enough you got me f***ed up i ain't going for none ain't nobody's gonna be present me starting to go to court you a bitch you a hoon you ain't no gang you ain't nothing you start taking to court no he's ain't ready you know he got me a birthday Wow, okay, here we go.

This is Boosie's response. Rod Wave. Stop playing victim. That was your fourth or fifth time doing when you did to my records. Now you're saying you was showing love and what you looked up to wasn't real. You wouldn't have never did that to another artist,

but you did that to me because you know I'm a real N-word. And showing love would have been popping me off when I ask you to. Showing love would have been popping me off this one time for all the times you did it before. Showing love would have been reaching out to work with me after you did this the first couple of times.

Showing love would have been popping me off when you found out I didn't own the song, just some crumbs of the publishing. If I would have did that multiple times and I looked up to an artist and my sack was straight, pause, I would have blessed him. That's what real N-words do.

No, you rather give it to them Jews and give me nothing. And I still ain't sue you, N-word. Stop playing victim and let it go. Did he just say, show-in-love, would have been giving me some money Although I don't, it's not my music. That's what he just said.

He wants to be compensated in some way, but it sounds like he wants a collaboration more than just credit. But he just said show and love would have been giving me some money even though you found out it wasn't my music. Right. So you sued a man for 200,000. I don't think he actually sued him. He just threatened to, right? Well, Rob Wape offered him 100 and he said it wasn't enough. That sounds crazy

I mean 100 grand seems like so fair for like interpolating your music when legally he doesn't actually have to Like Boosey is looking like a fucking Ingrid I feel like it's all bad for Boosy

since he left Vlad Like maybe somehow Vlad was like Keeping Boosy protected from bad PR He's on the spiral bro Yeah he has not filed a lawsuit Against Rod Wave Although he has repeatedly threatened legal action And blasted him publicly over an ongoing

music sampling dispute. The song, uh, well, that's not on the screen anymore for some reason. But I guess we can watch this. Rod wave, well,

he can chalk that feature up. You can exit out of that. We don't need that anymore. That's over. Let's watch this. Rod wave addresses Boosie's lawsuit against him. Man, I don't know what's...

Boosie on fire, man. I used to, man. I had the Boosey fade, man. That's shit crazy, man. You had the Boosey fade? Man, I had the Boosey fade. man, you got to put the picture right here next to me. We're going to find it.

We're going to put it up there. I'm going to give it to you. I had the boozy fade, man. That's shit crazy. I just was showing love, you know what I'm saying? I ain't. And he didn't take it as that. I guess he didn't, man.

But it's so crazy because, like we said, like, you know, growing up, like my adolescents, you know, the people that I looked up to, like the real guys in my life, like my dad and my uncle, those boys were gone, the boy up the road.

They stood on whatever business they was on. So the team, TV screen, the YouTube, or whatever was our role models, you know what I'm saying? And everything they talked and preached and did, we lived. You see what I'm saying? Yes. And maybe it wasn't even real, you know what I'm saying?

And that's the hard part. Is that really because I heard of people, you know, you never want to meet your idols because they're never what do you think they are? Yep. And it might re-range something in your brain because now I'm just like, I'm anti-old. I just off-ripped. I don't, I be on old ass all the time. y'all y'all in the wave I feel what I said

this guy every week some of them you know what I'm saying you're 40 someone want to give you the game I want to help you you know what I want to feel that about me but that's cool but

I don't just became so I got a bad taste in my mouth about how you old guys try to do you they try to run the game on you and if they can't get over on you now they're mad about that you know what I'm saying

I don't like that man you know what I'm saying because that ain't what I can an older cat grab me you know to my Uncle Derek put his arm around me and really like, you know? Yeah, let you know what he's saying. Really changed my whole trajectory. He really did something positive.

Like what I, Uncle did wouldn't be no raw way. It wouldn't be no five years platinum. Won't be all these millions of dollars. Wouldn't be all these kids and all these charities. It wouldn't be none of this stuff without one older guy who had an already been through it and did it. And the fact that he put his arm around a young kid. that he saw had a little light in him who had his head, his mind on the street

that he can help and fix God. He took his time out and dedicated a part of his life to that. All right, that's a nice little parable that just spit up there for us. Got a little long wind up there. Wait, so, okay, Bousie has responded. This is good. Now we're really getting into it. Okay. Now we're podding. Seven hours ago.

Shut your big ass-up, boy. Sound like Hellcat. You then took 15, niggins. music and made a career out of Who? Boy, you a straight bitch. Let's talk about, nigga, you that took 20

nickers music and made a motherfucking career out of a man. Boy, you's a big old bitch. Oh, man. Talking about your heart, I ain't never been broke. But every song, nigga, you're talking about your heart broke. You're a cap rapper,

you got the whole world saying for nothing. Shut your bitch ass up. Clown-ass. Talk about you looked up to niggas. What the fuck? You're looking up to niggas

and you ain't never done nothing like these. Boy, you a bitch. You can't take that back. You took everybody's shit. You're a Muppie, baby. Ooh. Big sass. Boy, shut your big

ass-up. Look it. Look it. He can't say that, bro. He took 15 niggas music and made a career. He can't play. He can't say that. bro because he wanted a feature um he wanted the feature bro i'm sorry yeah yeah yeah he was willing

he was willing to turn down enough money to buy a car for a feature because if you're boozy you know that you constantly need the younger generation to fuck with you in order to keep you relevant and make the newer generation look at you as somebody that they might possibly want to listen to rap which you know is an uphill battle because your old is out and and he is a legend are you a He is a legend, but Boossey knows that him being on a Rod Wave, like, I remember Project Pat talking about Drake putting it on his album.

Brough. That was for sure the best thing that happened to Project Pat in 10 years, right that. That's like, life-changing shit. When I brought it up to Ray J that Drake sampled the song off his album. Actually, I didn't even bring it up. Ray J, I mentioned Drake to Ray J. Ray J immediately says,

Drake made me so much goddamn money by sampling my song, which I'm sure you were involved with as well. I'm just saying, like, for the old had rappers who still maybe kind of have a way to fit in with the younger generation. That shit means a lot. So Boosie now deciding that he hates his music and wants to clown him. I love Rodway. Who could be swayed by this?

It's so fake. This is a disappointing episode because we got Boosie and we got Norie and they're both doing like lame shit. Like you see what's going on? He said he's old N-word K. Do you see what's going on? Rodway, we've got a point. No, a lot. Listen.

The old heads are acting geriatric out here. No, no, no, no. Let's talk about it. Okay. before the rappers were the ones sought out to be around, to be tied to, let me get close to them. Right. And that came,

what came with that was the street persona, all this gangster shit, whatever, right? Right. Now, the childish square streamer is the one sought out by the rappers. The neons. Hey, bro, we want to come stream with you.

Right? All the older dudes is getting exposed for shit. Sex offenses, telling, all this type of stuff. A tour is getting canceled. All this shit is phasing out and resetting. To where if you're not keeping up with the times, you're going to be forgot about. they're going to forget about man

and that's the bad news for Bussie is that listen we know you ordered like 10 bodies or whatever and you beat it as amazing it's as cool you have the young dudes from your neighborhood smoking people you got past that that's amazing Rod Wave

which he does have a case right now for like shooting at a car that his girlfriend was in I think but you know he represents like a new form of masculinity yeah he's heartbroken he's sad he's all fucked up sure but it's like you don't really need to be the killer anymore to be a hot rapper and now boozy's trying to like weaponize rodwaves's modern persona that is largely

responsible yes he's very talented but like the new generation part of the reason why they like rod wave so much is because he's offering up a different version of what it is to be a guy he's open emotionally the same reason they love juice world rod wave is like one of the only rappers that really kind of it scratches that itch like post juice world you know and like And like Boosy's now trying to use it against him. It just sounds ridiculous. Like you were dying to be on his. Oh, yeah, you wanted, you wanted a feature, you wanted this, you wanted that,

and then come to find out, the song you're claiming, it ain't even your master. He don't got to give you nothing. That's a flex. Like for Rodway, I have to be like, oh, I don't even have to worry about that because I got my publishing right. Yeah, I f***er right way, man. You're all right with me, man. Yeah, I just, I hate seeing Busy kind of go out sad like this. You got to get it together.

It's a lot of, of course, a lot of them phase. It's a lot of, lot of them, lot of them phasing out. If you are an old head, it is very important for you to avoid beefing with young hot rappers, unless you have a really good reason to do so because inevitably in the public eye, they're just going to be much more likely to be taken the right way. And you're much more likely to look like a salty ass Abe Simpson screaming at the sky, which I think is inevitably what Busy ends up looking like here. Like the fans of hip hop are young in large part.

And Rod Wave really comes off looking like the smarter, cooler, more laid back, more mature guy. What's going on on. Yeah. We take this call. You're not going to be mad on you. Are you? Take this car. What you want, Airhead.

We're live on the Adam and Wack show. Are we live? That's a fact. What up, Ack? That was good, man. I was really calling Wack to see. So, you know, we're coming the case. This idea of, like, co-conspirator for, yo.

I told you it was duty low five days ago. I told you that. Everyone thought it was Brick Baby, though. We all did. Duty Low told me it was him five days ago before it came out. We all thought it was Brick Baby at first, too. We all thought it was Brick Baby. Okay, why do you think that Dutley Low even told you that?

Because he told me that, too. But here's the thing. Well, he told me some more shit today that's even more disturbing, but I'm listening. But we got to think about this. So co-conspirator 4, which is duty low, he's the one who gets the location. He's the one who basically, you know what Jam said on the stand.

Jam said on the stand. He never knew why he went out to California. He said he couldn't get Dirk on the phone. One time, Didi, Didi, like, showed him Dirk on his phone, but he said he called Dirk, Dirk would not answer. And he called Dirk again. Booney Moe called him. And he said, Dutty Lowe called him directly

at one point and said, you're out here to kill Cuando. That's crazy. Listen, so today, I get a call. You just open the box. Yeah. Duty Lowe's upset with me.

I wouldn't under Setting Nash's post and said, if they don't arrest him in five days, I'm going to be scratching my head. So he calls me, whack, what's going on, bro? Why would you put that? I said, look, bro, you told me you were co-conspirator number four.

You told me your attorney told me, as long as you wasn't indicted before they picked the jury, you're good. But this man got on the damn stand and said, you told him he was out here to kill Cuando. This is what threw me for a loop act. He then said... You know that's the Jim Jones calls, right? You know what, just how he's saying... Hold on. Jones made an order.

You know, you said what Jim Jones made an order? But the difference is the fans had the Jim Jones call on wiretack. They don't have this one, right? Duty Load then says, I knew exactly what Jam was going to get up there and say. So I'm saying, so you telling me, the fans questioned you and told you what Jam had already said. Because for you to tell me, you. knew exactly what you were going to get up there and say either A, you really told him that shit, or B,

they already questioned you and told you what he said. And if so, how the hell you beat the indictment? What was the answer? You got me to suspense. He didn't answer. Right, because, like, there's two scenarios, which is that Dutelo really did this shit and should be part of this indictment. or you've been or maybe duty low told like but it seems like if that was the case the duty low

wouldn't be outside the courthouse protesting outside of court interesting because even after right so you know i got the indictment up here even after it says co-conspirator four was in a text messages laughing at the news reports that little pop died so he dropped the low he supposedly gets on the phone with um guando not quando i mean Jam says Jam, you're here to kill Cuando and he's laughing with Durk and crew afterwards.

That's tough. And by the way, they also say he was, they said after the death of Davon Bennett, which is King Von, they said that in Co-conspirator 1, which we down know is Durk, Durk told co-conspirator 2, 4,

5, and 6 that if they could kill Cuando or Little Ten, there is a bounty for it. That's what it says in the indictment. Now, granted, they're kind of substituted this for an alleged, some meeting at an Atlanta studio where Dirk says, yo, listen, 6'9 is laughing at me online. Yo, somebody got to do something.

And if somebody do something, they're set for life. I told you, I just told Adam. I said, bro, we got to credit 6'9 for the peer pressure a little dirt. I think little dirt would just let it go if 6-9 wasn't pumping it the way he was pumping it. I think you're ignoring a long history

of Dirk being like dead set on getting revenge against people who had wronged him for years before that. But definitely I think 6-9 was giving him a little bit of a kick in the ass to get the plan going. No, no, I don't be honest with you,

6-9 plays the bigger part, and I hate to give him credit, because he's like a gnat. You can't get rid of him. Once he gets a little point, he will, never shut up. But I got to be honest, let's put things in perspective, right? It's being real. Okay, so little pop dies. Dirk says he can't enjoy New Year's Eve because his man

died, nobody's sliding. He's telling his people who are saying, look at these guys talking about me, they're laughing at me about this slide from Vaughn thing. Now, that puts a lot of things in motion because every movement that contributes to the crime happening is Dirk basically saying we need action immediately. So I don't know, I'm not getting six nine credit for this happening, but he's definitely a factor in terms of, you know,

and I guess you could just sub them out for Instagram comments or for whatever feedback. That definitely made Dirk move a lot different. I can't lie. Hey, bro, let me ask you a question. Yeah. Do you think it's going to be the words of

one guy that convicts him or do you think it's going to be everybody? I don't think Jam's testimony means shit, but just him stamping, yeah, we killed him. We was there. All Jam proved was that he's a flunky.

Jam, he got his shit off by saying, and I think he was trying to serve up some sympathy points. He said he, this is after he allegedly may have done stuff for Dirk already since he got out. Because that's what Brian Seals crossing him on.

now to say, why did you just change up after this? You seemingly were down to do other things. He testified that Bonnie was putting a gun in his hand every time they went to a new city. He testified that he was thinking about robbing niggis. So he wasn't some guy, you know, he testified today saying, you know what? I have a child who I never got to know because I was locked up. So he said I was mad at Dirk because he put my freedom in danger. So Brian Steele's kicking his ass saying, dog, you told Dirk you wanted to rob people. You told, you. You You came out of jail not on someone, I want to be a father. You came out of jail saying, I'm the guy with the reputation and that they fear, whatever.

So Jam says he was mad at Dirk because Dirk sent him on a dummy mission with a bunch of goofies. He said, first of all, he didn't know Los Angeles at all. So he didn't know he was killing somebody in Beverly Hills, how significant, how important. Yo, we all said that. Like, what though? What are you doing? He said, he said when he got on the plane, he said, first of all, Booney Moat told him. to come out there. He said he gets to

L.A. and he said him and Dirk used to have a one-on-one relationship where they could talk to each other. Dirk would call him frequently in jail. He calls Dirk phone. Dirk does not answer. Then Dedy and Vani. Bonnie is the guy who was helping

King Vaughn pick out the stuff in Icebox. He's a cooperant too. Basically, they all look at him like how whack. You see you as a street dude, look at me. Imagine you about going to drill and you fly out somewhere and I need to the airport and I said I'm gonna get you all you need and I give you the mask the gloves all the stuff and you look at me like this goofy

digger is not about to send me on to do a crime in Beverly Hills so he got mad at that also the whole drill was scuffed he tried to call it off he said um while he was on the way he seemed that the guys he was with they're nervous like they're all like frantic and he says he tries to tell ditty let's call it off also he got he felt he got suckered into pulling the trigger because when he gets there after they told me you're here to kill Cuando, one day they're stalking Cuando, Cuando's riding scooter outside. You know about a level hotel? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's riding scooters out there. And when he's riding the scooter, you know, like they kind of see them now. So they already got a job. They see him. D.D. takes the gun and puts it against the window. They're in a car. And he said, man, I could kill these niggins right now. Now, that's important because the next day when they're actually following around it,

to escalate. Dede who had the gun on his hand yesterday talking about I can kill that nigga right now but apparently they seen some cop cars and said no. Dedy gave the gun to jam and said hey, big brother, take this. I'm rusty. So he told him he was

rusty and doing the killings. Yo, bro. He was rusty and doing the murders. Oh, man. So he passed the gun off and then he sits in the car which, by the way, here's another thing. Jam.

Jam is such a square in a sense of like he's just not a criminal. Of course, for the car that has the shooters in it, it's the stolen car, it's the hot car, whatever they call it. He books an exotic rental from a rental place. Not only did he book the exotic sprinter from San Diego, he books an exotic rental, and he follows Cuando Rondo in the exotic rental, knowing they got no guns, him and Dedi.

And that's how they tracked that rental back to Dirt's house. complete rookie show. And, yeah, I think Jam just kind of found a way to realize that he could finally cleanse his record by just taking a plea where he admits to everything he ever did. Also, Dirk wasn't giving up the bread.

He said Dirk, Dirk kind of nodded and agreed to... Right. They didn't respect Dirk. And that had to be motivated, but like, all right, when Jam is saying that he basically had like a come-to-Jesus moment and when they killed a little Pab,

that he felt horrible. and he felt so bad. Like, I was kind of under the impression that a dude like OTF Jam don't got no goddamn feelings that when it comes to killing his ops, he's happy to do it. Do you believe that or all?

You think he's saying that because that sounds good in court. He's lying. I have one on my stream Instagram page. It's basically like an obituary. The guy who he killed in Racine, he killed the guy in Racine, Wisconsin. We have the story.

It was a 41-year-old father. He gunned. I remember he put the gun to us that after his OZ said, yo, I know you shot him, but he's seen our faces. He's going to tell if he won't go to jail and he shot him in the head and killed him.

The guy's brains was flattered over. He had over 16 years, or actually 13 years to feel bad about that crime, you kill a man in cold blood. He had kids, wife, all that. He never, ever confessed. He never ever did nothing to atone for those sins until he had a favorable deal from the feds.

So if you only find God when you can find, way out of jail. I might have to question how sincere you are. No, for sure. Hey, listen, man, I'm just glad that I have long since removed myself. You were never doing shit like this.

Get the fuck out of here. Oh, you're right. I was never doing shit like this. You ain't never killed somebody in West Hollywood in front of their hotel. Huh? At the gas station. No, listen, you missed the point.

I've long since removed myself. But you can't remove yourself because you were never really getting down like that. I never have your room. You got no skits. I look like loose cannon. Motherf-ha-f-ha-ha. You're right.

I never did nothing. No skits. No skits? All I got is skittos. Okay. These guys are such fish out of water. You know, obviously they go to California. They're trying to kill him at a dispensary.

They send one of the eventual shooters, the name of Brown Eyes. He walks in there. I guess they've never really been to Cali like that. But they've seen the dispensary. They realize, I guess in all Cali dispensaries, there's a security guard. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

And they realized Cuando's in the back, so they say, I'm not going to do it there. They was going to do it at a clothing store. When they go to the spot, they're like, you know what, let's kill them and bait. And then they look, they're like, I think these guys are going to be able to lock us in here by pressing a button. So that's how they waited at the gas station. They thought about it like a bunch of times. Hey, listen, man. Hey, listen.

It's a rookie act. We're going to sit back and watch the show. We're about to keep reporting. We got Sauce Walker and the young lady I just met too. weeks ago just met this young lady. Yeah, yeah. Sauce Walker is really being outed as an abuser and a gaslighter

these days, man. Did he abuse her? Uh, he'd be in all these bitches up as far as I know, yeah, yeah. I don't think he beat her up. Maybe not yet. He just didn't have enough time. He asked her, he said he tattooed her name

on his face to keep from having to pay her 150 a day. Well, but did you see her exposing? No, I'm not a lot. He got so many pills. Uh-huh. He said he's a pimp. All he does is finesse women.

Yeah, all right. He says, he tattooed, Her name or... The keep her paying $150 a day. No, but... When I interviewed his baby mama, Kylie, she said that his whole narrative about Drake is the biggest bullshit ever,

because Sauce wants us to believe that he's the pimp and that he got Drake sending these girls cars and money, and then he's really the one shooting music videos with the cars and spending the money or whatever. And I asked Kylie about that as baby mama, and she said,

well, if you're such a cool, pimp and you want to just like live off a shit that Drake gave me then why did you destroy the mayback why did you take a baseball bat to the mayback it's it's bullshit he's trying to present this whole narrative like he's this big successful fucking streamer business guru and and meanwhile he out here streaming with 100 viewers he's a total bum he can't he screwed over dean the great that shit was crazy you can't talk about that too you can't say adam don't like you because he said you had a hundred viewers and the other day when I was on Blueface stream, I seen the thing and it was 72. Hey, by the way, I see, I see what Sauce is doing.

I'm going to ignore some of these allegations for the interim, but here's the thing. I think people, and I'm a caution sauce, even though Sauce is a pen, I'm pretty sure you got the talk game that's at third. What Blueface is doing and streaming, that's why I think he started bringing his relationship problem. Exactly. Blueface's thing is not a, to me it's not a stream. This is a 24-7 reality show.

Yeah. Like, this is next level. I don't know if sauce could match that, but I think he's trying to step in the water of, okay, I bet y'all want to see drama with my baby mama? Fine, I'll put that on camera too. I don't know if it works as much when I don't think people would care about his baby mama. Blueface does a great job of building his baby mama.

One thing I'll say I was wrong about when Wack told me the opposite. Wack always told me the real star was Blueface. I thought it was Chrison. I get to realize Blueface could build anything. Like, you find him a homeless sick off the street. She'll be a star in at least four weeks. Yeah, no, for sure. And I feel like Sauce Walker is just trying to find anybody that he can leach off of,

that he can use as like a father figure. He's looking at Dean the grade who's 15 years younger than him. Like, that's who he wants to be. And he's so, he's taking it to such an extent that he's stealing his fucking song. He's uploading it. He's lying and gaslighting Dean and A.B. trying to act like he didn't know what a collab post was. That shit is disgusting.

No, it sounds to me like the baby mama, well, not baby mama, the assistant ex-girlfriend is just revealing what all his plays were on people that's supposed to have been his friends. But, yo, Act, did you see the clip of Soss's assistant, I guess? That's what we're calling, like, fine black women with BBLs. Yeah, I was that.

Yeah, so she's, she's his fine-ass assistant. with a BBL and she's saying that she had to drive all the way to Houston without from Houston to L.A. without being able to listen to YB or Drake. And she, the way she says it, she's so pissed and I fucking love that. That's what I matter. There's all these other rappers. There's like a super long blacklist of different artists that you can't listen to if you hanging out with Sauce Walker.

That's so funny. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. I agree with the no little baby in the whip. But it was no future, too. It was no future to. You agree with the no. little baby. Yeah, he don't want to listen to Little Baby either.

Yeah, I, listen, I can't, I can know that they know around me, like, I mean, I don't even hate the songs, but usually I, like, they'll turn it off. It's not even about little baby. It's about the people around me respect to me, especially if I'm paying your bills. I'm paying your bills. You better, you better switch that song quick. Anyway, no, no, but no future, no drink. Yeah, I ain't going to lie to you.

Like, we'd probably be listening to jazz. That's like, I'd rather be in North Korea, man. That shit. No, they did. And they drove, too. Remember when you, yeah, yeah. They drove. I don't want to watch.

I've talked to Salswaka. His story about those guys is different. He said, Little Baby's one of the biggest cereal purchase of Poudani. He'll make sure them, basically, like, he'll, guys like Future,

even Stefan Diggs, like, yo, he'll let them go fuck whatever girl. He's getting paid off of it. He don't care. So basically, like,

anytime these rappers, whether there's future world, fucks these girls in Houston, bro, he's getting paid. Yeah, sounds good. I don't know.

She's saying a whole other thing. She's saying, I don't know, I don't know, bro. These girls, we might have to look at the bank transfers. Yeah, if they're cutting Sals Walker a check, you know, every time they're getting fucked by celebrity, like, we got to give him the credit. But you know what the dynamic is, is that Soss Walker was a regular old

pimp before the digital pivot, you know? And so it's easy to control a bitch when she's barefoot and pregnant, and she got three different pimps tattooed on her face. It's easy to control and gaslight and manipulate that type of ho. Hey, bro, did you just take a shot at my artist? I caught that shit. Whatever.

I don't know what you're talking about. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but once, what, once the artist, once once the girl becomes famous and she's got hundreds of thousands of dollars in the bank, you just can't gaslight in the same way, and sauce keeps running to the same exact problem over and over and over, which is these girls don't want to deal with him abusing them because they all, they got their own money at a certain point. My biggest worry when it comes to sauce, Walker is one day

he's going to drop dead for my aneurysm, bro. Yeah, he's stressing. That nigga be screaming, crazy. Hey, whack. Eyes be bulging. That's the person. I'll tell you, I always got blue faces

stream up on at the crib. These days, I leave it on like I used to do with fresh and fit. I let the girls that be hanging around me know it could always get worse. Bro, I was, I quoted that the other day and my wife did not appreciate it. I told her, I'm like, I was like, you know, I'm like, you know,

what Ax said is that he leaves the blue face stream on in the crib so the girl knows that it could always be worse. And my girl just looks at me like so disgusted that I would even say that. Every time I'm about to ask a girl to clean, blue face is on the camera asking his pregnant baby mama to clean. I'm like, yo, beautiful. Blueface is doing the, like, again, I ain't going to lie to you. If that was my daughter, I'd probably have to kill a movie. I don't know how this is happening. But, you know, I'm just think it's entertainment only.

Yeah, I was hanging out with her parents at the baby shower. really trying to get inside their head and try to understand what they could possibly feel about the dynamic that their daughter finds herself in. Hmm. Well, you know, listen,

Blueface said he made $200K off a kick. You know, kick is paying out that bag. I'm pretty sure there's a method to the madness. I'm pretty sure she was homeless before. So shit, if she likes it, I love it. Yeah, I'm thinking about doing the same thing Sauce Walker doing and just copying Blueface and just start beating my girl

fucking throwing shit. He's entertaining. That's the season finale. And we're about to go up. Listen, we about to do a 20-day run. We about to do a 20-day run. Blue Girls Club coming back. I'm just waiting for the day.

I got everything's approved. We about to go crazy. Can I get some scraps if I pull up? You know what's? Hey, listen, man. Hey, look, hey, look, man, ain't no telling what might happen. And we got, it's a kick steak. combination thing going on and we're going up.

You know what I'm saying? And on top of that, once we finish that, then we're coming back with the Ray J. You know what I'm saying? I'm putting this, it's called Rahab. We're doing a 28 day. Oh, if I'm going to get an update on Ray J's help? I'm putting him in rehab.

Is that like a rehab? There it go. Well, Lush can go there too then. Yeah, he can pull up. Nice. Yeah, tell Lush can go out. I'm going to give him a hug. Oh, I like that.

A hug in a head, A long hug. Hey, we're about to finish this stream. I'm gonna hit you when I come out. I got this dude just pulled up. He don't wear deodor. We got to see what's going up.

We're not even close to done. We got, let's say, Come on. Yeah, I want to bring this dude. We go. We got Rios, but we got another up-and-coming streamer. I want to know what he wants to be called.

Let's get Rios in. Let's get Rios, right? What's going on, Rios? Should he sit next to you? Because he might work there. All right. How are you living? They told me Rio-

You're not of your stuff there, man. They said Rios is a Soudaño. Hell no. Mm-hmm. You just fell out your mouth. Yeah. Yeah, you bring it out of Rios. You're lying.

Ain't nobody told you that. Ain't nobody told you that. That's disrespectful. You're eating avocado toast when you first meet this guy. Oh, you're trying to lose weight. Yeah. You're trying to get his shape. You look bad for our old man.

He's going to look like Bill Belling me soon. What's up is that? Oh. So Rios, you was interviewing Adam. Yeah. And you was insinuating. Ooh. Pop off.

Waxed the only problem in the build. Tell me how I'm insinuating that. That's what you said. You pretty much said that. You said that. You said that. And I'm like, well, I understand what you don't understand because I understand the building.

Right? And one thing this building has is the controversy. that it has. Mm-hmm. You see what I'm saying? Which means the building's not a bore. You never know. You're always wondering, oh, shit, their lie.

Is a dude going to pop up? Always going, and it keeps the building. But I'm wondering, you was pretty much saying, like, whack need to go. No, no, no, no. And I didn't know that you were trying to come. Wait, wait, wait. This is how I know you're lying. You was on your show.

Wait, wait, this is how I know you lying. It was your show. Wait. Because in that same sentence, I said, I see how he's the most valuable and how he brings value to the game. But you still said I needed to go. No, I didn't.

I never said that. So then he tells me, you're from Long Beach. I called the North Side. I called the babies. I call big boys. I called the SOS. And I'm trying to figure out where you from. You're going to have to put on some more fingers on there

because you ain't said the right one yet. Yeah, you're going to have to do some goof. You didn't ask the right ones. So are you, are you, you from a black gang? I'm from, I was born at Long Beach Memorial, Eastside Long Beach, born and raised to this day. Are you just from Long Beach? Yeah, Long Beach.

You're not from a set long beach. He's not trying to gang bang on a podcast. It's not gang banging. It's not gang banging. But I'm not trying to add 10 to 12 years on any case I get either. Exactly. I mean, at the end of the day, bro, it's going to be like little dirt. Your homie going to tell him you anything.

He's not ordering anybody. I'm never going to go on no goobber shit like that. Huh? So, see, you're dangerous. Because, see, what for you see you? We don't know if you got your gothic shit going on. We don't know if we're Armenian and something. I was it, gothic.

He's dressed like hooty and the bloatfish. But we don't know what the fuck is going on. What the fuck? It's got a hard to get out. I'm trying to figure out. And then I just leave over there. And I asked him, I said, yo, bro, what's up with this Rio's dude? They said, bro, we fuck with him, but he just had bad hygiene.

They lie. I never noticed that. Yeah. No one ever said. Ain't nobody on earth ever. So why did they kick you out? There's nobody on earth ever said that. So why they kick you out?

Out of what? FMW? Yeah. Our back on fig out of that. How many times have you seen me over there? No, I didn't really. I seen you now that I see you, but I didn't really know, I didn't really know, I didn't really know, you know. But how many, but if I was a part of that, you was seen.

But you was a part of that? No, I wasn't. I was on Ace Boys. I was, me and pun are brothers. Oh, you were in pun. Pony brothers, Manny Fred, we brothers. So what made you? So you left?

I left Ace Boys because I did two years of Friday nights. Like I got a family. I'm a family man. I'm a husband. I've been married 16 years. Friday nights was like what, like 10 to midnight? Midnight, like 10 to 2 sometimes. It's so, you know, what?

Why the fucking had you doing that? He's a married man. They had girls shaking ass on him. He's catching wind of BBL's yuck. Which was cool. That was cool. It was cool. It was fun.

It was cool. But it was just like, you can only do that for so long. You know what I mean? Like, and then. Was the money? Was the money? Like it was, no, look at this.

None of this shit would be happening right now if it wasn't for pun and Ace Boys were a while. I wouldn't be here sitting here talking to you. You know what I mean? So it was more than worth it. You know what I mean? And then also being able to do something with your brothers and support each other and do that,

it would never have to be anything besides beyond a question like, hey, can you come do this? Yeah. Easy. I think he's a, no, I think he's a good fit. I think he's like the voice of reason.

Mm. He's what, I'm the voice of reason. He's, no, you aren't, you're just, nobody can't.

Nobody can't. He's like, the advocate. You're kind of like, you're coming from my spot right there. I don't fuck with that. No, no, no, no.

You're the ass. You're like the voice of reason. Yeah. I'm like the AI. I can, like, fact check everybody. You're a asshole. You're the asshole.

You're the anchor. Yeah. Anchor man. You know what I'm saying. So, like, what I'm saying is, if you got three, four motherfuckers in the room and it's going crazy, he's always going to be the calm way. And that's why the other day when he started telling Do Boy how bad Do Boy has been fucking up. It was like. But he got accepted.

I felt like it hit so much different than me saying it because I think Doe Boy is able, with me, he's able to say like, oh, it's kind of like, he's doing content. He's performative. He's just talking shit. Doeboy don't know what he wants to be. Yeah. He don't know who he wants to be. Well, I think he does know he wants to be. And he tries to be everybody's friend too much.

He's a people pleaser. Yeah. I think he knows what he wants to be, and it's just not really what in actuality he is in any way. No matter what you want to be as a man, you got to have a base. You have a foundation of what you stand on. No matter what, you want to be whatever label you want to give the brother or not at the bottom, at the end of the day, bottom line foundation, you have to stand as a man for you and stand up for yourself. Your name's going in the side letter.

Oh, my God. That's what I was saying. Don't joke about that. I ain't joke. Dude is what? Let me tell you something. Even saying that the camera is insane. Watch dude.

Listen, watch. I don't think he's the type to do the bullshit. You got bullshit. And just. Don't, can you not say the words 80 times in a row? Okay. That's way crazy. That was crazy.

Dude will sit there and. he will really get depressed about this because he wants so bad to be in the end crowd of this. And if he feels he can't find it and the so-called boss isn't giving him recognition, he's a letdown and he's the type of dude that would do it. I'm telling you. Okay, maybe we could not turn this podcast into polymarket for people killing themselves. I've been knowing a nigger longer than all you. Cali. Sorry. We're not calling out suits.

No. But what he's saying is kind of valid. I brought him on my show the next day, just randomly. And whatever had happened that morning, I brought him on and just like, basically try to just let him vent and sit down and just tell him like, dude, you just got to get your shit together on your own. It was like, it was a good one, man. He's a good comedian. He's like a good person and he'll get it together, man. I'm going to see a top dog and put him on it. I'm going to try to do something. You're trying to get him on TV.

I love that idea. That's a great idea. I don't dislike him. What I just said to you, you may not want to hear it, but it's real. And because I know it's real, yeah, for that reason, I'll call in the favor. I think, you get what I'm saying? I'll call in the favor. Doboy could write for Dochi.

Well, I don't know about all that. Maybe they just do a song together. I know he likes, he likes to comment, you know, the shit. And bro got it, you know what I mean? And I know he's looking to be. part of something or whatever reason. You know what I'm saying? And every circle he goes to,

it kind of ends the same way. Not ends, like, wild and out. I felt bad for him because he told us that we were, like, the only group chat in. Okay, this is like 40-some years old? 47, 47. We got to introduce our new guest to. I know this thing.

I know this, I've been to him before. Where? I've been to a studio. I think I brought him here. Look, I didn't been in a studio when True Car was there. But you had Truca when you first signed TrueCard. I brought him here. He don't remember anybody unless they're famous.

I brought him here, bro. And he lives in the city where I'm here. You don't remember I brought him here? That's not flock to ball. No, this is the singer that this Chris Brown, right? Oh, shit. This Kevin McCall, right? Wow.

You not Kevin McCall? No. Oh, shit. I thought it was Kevin. Oh, what the f***? Oh, you know. Oh, is Kurt Farman. Hey, you owe me dinner.

Hey, you only dinner. I remember this, but I don't remember this ball, but I don't. He definitely been in the studio. Shots to Kevin McCaw. But you know what? Hey, on the late night, motherfucka drunk, might think you him. Bro, no.

Let me give you a story about how I know this man. Let's be real this shit. Bring up Kevin McCall. Let me know. Let me show you how I met this man. No, it was not no nice scene. I didn't just meet him. I pulled up to a studio.

I was with Spank Nitty and my guy, uh, Jay Luck. Spank Nitty was coming over to the record. Right. When he just started with True Car or whatever. Okay. We put up to the studio. I pulled in the best. back.

Wait, I was in an alpha tomorrow, and then I pulled out. Oh, yeah. And you had the, you and your big ass security came out and had things on. I'm coming. Extend those. I'm, bro. Call back. Call back.

Bro. And this time I saw, I had one. You hear what he said he did? I had one back. You had more polls than you. He sits. I sit there. And then I pull on.

Oh, what do you do? They say, hey, they tell me like this. tell me like this, hey, Unc said, don't pull in the back like that. Don't pull it. So I have to hurry up and speed out. I got an alpha Romero. So I pull out and I park across the street. They come out. And then doubles back. Yeah, that's that's spooky. Four shed.

The four tools out the shed. Four Bob the builder tool. Hey, bro. Wow. I got one. Hello. This is going in the indictment. I got one. We're going to put this in the indictment for sure. I only can get one of them.

Look, listen. Listen. Listen. You're going to die tonight. Look, at least you know you're the same place. Yeah. Bro, after that, he's like, oh, why you didn't say that was you? Now, why I said once you get in the studio, right?

It was safe. You see the monitors everywhere. It was cool. So now you see it like, okay, these things can see you. It was cool. It was a vibe about that. But it was nothing nice meeting this, man. Don't ever think that it was cool.

I can never, I don't know what be going on over the internet. But man, I look, look, I've been streaming. I've been streaming really, really hard. Twitter. No, kick, kick, kick. I've been like, I've been the hottest underground stream. And I'm going to just tell you like this. And the streamer world ain't what it is.

The streamer world is not what it is. I don't went to every party. And these streamers are rappers. And they are this cosplay. So who's fake, Soss Walker? I'm not going to hold you. That's a good point. I'm going to be real because I have respect for him.

Even though, you know, whatever happens. Why do you say that about AB? Boy, that shit ain't cool. A.B. was cool. it was D. Oh. And I love Dean. I think Dean got the corrupt narrative from Sauce that made him think you were some weirdo.

Bro. You all got to do it? But twice. Who you got to do it? What? What? What? Who?

Sauce or Dean? No, Dean kicked me out twice, not once but twice. He kicked me out first from the compound. I brought four women and he kicked me out. What are in now? That compound they are in now. You know what I'm saying? I be hearing kill cuss.

Because. I hate cuss. I'm from M.A. I'm from Long Beach. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a... Oh, now I remember this, this is what it is. Yeah. A past, a P-nights girl.

Oh, yeah. Oh, we're going to talk about that. Hold on that. Hold on that. He just said, gai. That's what I said. And it was a justified gai, but we go, we go up, table that. We got to keep talking about demon-greated-st-stall.

Table that. No, bro. I'm going off of, this is real. This is real. This will be real. When did California trauma become cosplay? recently. Who's cosplaying as a traumatized Californian?

I'm just saying there's streamers that say, Kewka. Who the fucking deedie? And I just got out of prison in June last year. You know, I was just going to say you put on some weight. Yeah, I did. I've been doing push-ups. You were slimmer back, do you hear me?

So you think Dean the Great Cripping a little too much for somebody who's not formally Cripping? I don't think none of them are cripping. They're not. But he's saying, they're not more than almost any. Crip you ever met. But they're cosplaying the trauma of our past.

Like, my mom started insane. My dad did 15 years when I was five years old. So I never, and back then you didn't have prop, 57, prop, this and that. So he did the whole thing. So when he got out when I was 20, it felt like boys in the hood. I don't know you. I'm glad they're not playing with that, the homies with a trip. They was playing with that bloodshed.

Wow. The homies with a trip. So what I'm saying. And I'm being. real, I'm being really transparent and I want to know, like, so when I come in, right, as a Californian that I've been out here my whole life, right, then inherited, I'm a, I'm a crip, I'm a banger. If you don't know the politics, if me and you ain't beefing, we're supposed to be transparent

with each other. Right. Off the rip. That's just how I go. If I'm not in L.A. County, I'm in Long Beach. Mm-hmm. And that's a big line. Long Beach is L.A. County.

But I'm saying it's a long. But it's outside. It's all this outskirts. No, it's not. It is. It's not L.A. It's not L.A. proper.

It's L.A. County. It's the last city in L.A. County. Long Beach, Poma, Calabasasas, Roseman. L.A. County is made of 88 cities.

North Carolina. No, Rosman is North Cal. No, Roseman is the last city. L.A. County includes... L.A. County includes Chatsworth. In Tua County, after Calabasasas.

Y'all is orange and then it's San Bernardino County, Pomona. So you got to are LA County, but you're the city of Long Beach. If you walk up in the function saying you're from L.A. and you're from Chatsworth, then people are going to have some issues. Chatsworth's L.A. County.

You are lying, even though it's L.A. Listen to me. Listen to me. And I tell you this, I ain't going to never say L.A. A. Connaughton, niggott. Niggott, ain't going to say L.A. and Longbees, nigga. No other cities are going to say Lonebees. Yeah.

You're going to say Long Beach. Right. That's why when I be telling people, I'm like, look, bro. But there's a line, though. There's politics around everything that's going on. We understand that. But when we say we're going to proclamation, we're not about to say,

oh, yeah, we're about to go to the OV. cheese over him and that. No, he's going to performance. So you know, so don't do that. So look, when you say that, y'all got the blood, what's the blood nation, where you can go all the way to Detroit and it is Suu. So when I say that.

Same thing with Cripping. But I'm, so. Shit across the glove. So check where I'm coming at. The cosplan of what I got stock for. But he's saying, but he's profiting. But he ain't from nowhere. Why?

He's checking. With the camera, I tried to, and he got six, seven security. That's shaking my hand because I try to scream. I'm not about to scream over nobody's, nobody's podcast or their stream. I'm not about to do that because that's what I came there. That's proper etiquette. I want to come as a gentleman. Yeah.

I came as, I learned from you. This dink of full of shit right now. Oh, wow. Wow. When I say I learned from Malkin, how you bring. Listen, I watch multiple interviews of you. I watch multiple interviews. Did you feel the way blueface fans?

because blue face felt like the same family. Yeah, bro, I felt the way he felt after I felt the way I felt. Because I went on P-Nice and talked about it and that went viral right after and I went on back on fig. What did P-9s have to say about? Let's get, well, hold on, but do you feel like, because, okay, there's a thing with streamers where if you're a big streamer, if you're Dean and A.B. right now or whatever, they look at everybody at a certain point as basically being cloud chasers and people trying to get their motion or whatever because the reality is. how they see people. Especially if you are an IRS streamer, it's just like everybody is trying to get your fucking cloud.

Everybody's just trying to like come through. You can't look at it that way. You know why? Because you need everybody for your stream. You do, but you want to be the one choosing who you're going to have on your stream because realistically you know that if you give somebody light, that's more beneficial to them. If they're a small content creator,

then, and then meanwhile, it's worse for them. They could go potentially watch that person. They're not trying to make people famous by accident. So do you feel like they were being dickheads or big-headed on that shit or on some just like general animosity towards a random black dude? Like it becomes where there's emotion mixed with consequences. I feel both of those collide with where because it's emotional.

If you look in the video, if you ever seen anything that I posted of him, every time I come around, it's uncomfortable. And that's not to even talk about this. It's like every time I come around, it's uncomfortable. So put yourself in my shoes. for a second. You walk in somewhere, you're from this city. You hear somebody saying cuss, cuss, cuss, cuss, cuss. You go on me. So I feel like I relate to you. Where, first and foremost, where are you from? And if you are from somewhere, I could call in on anybody you from. Because I'm not, I'm from Long Beach. And there's a guideline between Long Beach, between the valley and between L.A.

I don't care what you're saying. We all are the same county. But at the end of the day, it's lines that are wrong. Pomona like that too. Yes. And let's be real. We're Pomona too. Because I've been out there with the ghost towns and all that. You know what I mean? I understand.

I thought. I thought. He's not. What it is is your light. What you think he'll do? When anybody sees somebody got more liked than him and that can beat them, it's an insecurity there. There's an insecurity there.

And when fake sees ruinous, they want that shit as far away from him as possible. So do you feel that I was challenging his authenticity by me being. in there. Your natural energy challenged him. Oh. Your natural energy, your east side challenged him. He ain't got that. And when you walk into place,

motherfuckers notice that shit from a distance. We all know. That's a nice way. He was wrong. He never told me. But that's a nice way to put it. But also, I think in reality is that Dean is looking at it like this guy might be a crazy fan.

No. Because they weren't, they weren't introduced to you in an appropriate way. If it had been, hey, this is my friend, this is so-and-so. So he's cool with me. He's a good guy. Like you, when you introduce, like,

a person to a famous person, right. A lot of times you have to, like, kind of basically, like, restate their resume in order to make it like, hey, little baby,

this is not just a fan. This is, this is a dude. This is a guy you should give a fuck about. I want to challenge that because we say he's, everybody from us, even me and you, six,

but he hangs out with K-boy. He ain't got a moving. So we can't say that. But he's not. He got a real 6-0 member, right? He definitely just got in my comments, and that's my homie, talking about, oh, you look like you following him. It might be where I had to send him. I had to send him, motherfucking credential.

P. Nice hangs out with him. These are moving cars. This is moving. You know better, come on, yeah. No, it ain't that. It's had a factor of your cosplay because when I came in, I should never be a threat. I came with four women the first time you kicked me out. You were on your low-key shit.

I was low-key. I pulled up with women because women said, hey, we're going over here. You think he kind of like underestimated you? Brother, I think that's what it was. And instead of correcting yourself, I felt that this is just my opinion. And, you know, I'm obligated to it. That AB recognizes that's why the second time he did that, what do he do? Did it up to him?

He stood up because he wanted to make sure his narrative looked good at the end. But the first, the perception is everything. And you can deceive what you perceive. Right. But you cannot, with this streaming shit, you cannot cut anything that's live. We're going to cut it. We're going to paint the picture. So I didn't know what you said back there.

But it's on stream. Oh, why is he here? I don't even know this man like that. I know you from the first day I met you from hanging out because you called us to some of some women. But you know what the weird dynamic? that with that is is that when you have like a content house or a place like this or whatever that is a dynamic that will happen is that you're doing content you're doing the 20 versus one you're doing a podcast with a bunch of girls or whatever and four four hot chicks come in

they got one dude with them we don't question that but it's it's kind of like a decision to make because if you're a big-headed egotistical content creator you're kind of thinking like how do I neutralize this guy maybe I just kicked this motherfucker out we got the girls like Let's get them the fuck out of here. Don't go to say when you left? No. They left with me. You love, dude, understand where I'm coming from.

This is California energy, and you in California. I'm just, like, trying to explain their motivation. I'm not saying that, like, this actually happened. Somewhere where you're not going to go. They threw your muscle seat on some rocks. Hey, listen, let me tell you something that I'm going to tell you what they was talking about. Talk to me, brother. They misread you, bro.

You think so? I'm going to tell you why they miss red. See, I know you, right? Right. You went in there with your proper shit. As, as, like, some people would see it, like, your isom shit. Right. You were on stream?

You had your guys filming you? I was on the stream trying to pick the tea. I think that probably made them feel weird, too, maybe. And they reread the ism as some soft shit, right? Ooh. You hear what I'm telling you? I know what you said. So, if motherfuckers don't know a motherfucker, right?

We know how to read a motherfucker and say, okay, bro, this old is, he or this isom shit. But they read you like, you, you, you wasn't right shit. So he played what you think about it. If you would have came in on some crippling shit, dude wouldn't have played with you like that? If he didn't care of- So right, you're talking about the first time or the second time? The first time, which was the first of the second?

Because the second time, I don't got kicked out of rampage shit. That's the hate it. The first time, I'm telling you. They said, if he would have went. I'm with Beeman. He went in. The crash-out boys are all off style. If you were to win in, bro, on your baby shit,

you think of what that's fucked up. I'm telling you, bro. The whole time they never started you, I understand. I'm telling you, listen. Hear me out. I know you, nigga. And I'm going to tell you some shit, right?

A person that don't know you that don't come from this, I'll read you and think you funny. Nah, I just met him outside. I just met him outside right now. Redd's energy immediately. Nick, you're from Long Beach. You don't fucking count. You hear that?

You hear that shit? But y'all got him in the... But y'all got him paying cosplay with shit that... No, y'all got him on that. That you argue with on every podcast. about. I'll do that. No, I ain't just,

I'm blaming on our country. Who's y'all? He can't do it to me. Who's your? You know what? Now I'm going to put the Crippin on trial. I'm going to put the Cripp in.

You know who be around him? No, I'm going to put the Crippin on trial. I'm going to put the Cripp. Talk to me. As Adamu, they can't even do that to me because I'm going to say, nigger, you ain't no Crip.

Nick, don't cause me. You ain't no Crip, nigga. So Dean the Great can't say cause to you? No, they're not crips. This is not. Now, if DW you around, and I got my real Kiway niggas around

and we're talking, I know they're talking, I know they grips. Right? It's not a problem. But I'm not a feeling, I'm a real West Coast, motherfucker. I don't like people playing with our shit. So y'all over there because it's DMM,

y'all letting it slide. Instead of, you should have just went viral and checked it. Ooh. That'd have been cold. Should have just let borrow and checked it. That would have been cold. And then hit it with their,

Hit it what you always ended with. Oh, insane. And you can't beat you? Now, can I say something? Now, can I say something? I, listen. Everybody was going to be watching. Now, check me out.

Now, check me out. Now, let me say this with the most prestige. Because I was not to try to oppose a threat in a world that I'm trying to enter in. You're a streamer. You're the top. You're as of kick. You ate it. Mike Tyson was the top, too.

We went to sleep. Y'all doing y'all shit. But you got to understand. He got seven, eight security. What did that mean? He got seven, eight. No, no, no, no, no, take me out, though. What that means?

I just got out of prison. So you said off. I know the cause, I didn't give an installment plan of eight years of a prison system. You don't have a mic. So if I know. So I know whatever I do, going to do what it's going to do on me. That after effects of the perception that I'm giving them, and I know when you clip me, I got to make sure that I don't lose endorsements or whatever's going to happen in my near future.

So I'm thinking about my near future. I'm sorry, bro. I'm sorry, bro. You read this shit, Ro. Never. You read this role. I should have said, you bitch ass. I hate you.

No, but if you're wanting to make it as a content creator and you like. Gotta be a wrist tape. Like, they do kind of want you to crash out. They want you to crash on some not that significant shit. Like if they think like, oh, we're going to get gang banged on by if this fool comes around, that's a little bit of a different type of energy. That is a big liability of you trying to be a streamer because a lot of these streamers realistically have no street background. They don't want to be around that kind of shit. I know.

Here goes the difference. Thank you. A lot of them, because Dean them is winning, are hating on Dean, so they don't want to be around you anyway. Okay, but look at this. Let's look at you. You know what I'm saying, Adam?

No, no, no. Blue just did this. Blue just did this. And so look, Blue face has shown that the acting real and being who you are is way more viral than a motherfucker trying to be something. You see how they're trying to push liquor, push all I'm on bitches.

I'm trying, all that shit is. Being rude, we're doing that. Being a real, just a cripping, being how he is. Lucky I wasn't there. It's a whole. All different energy. And motherfuck is it.

Look, Blueface is everywhere. Blueface that took over Dean's shit. Do you hear with boo? Blueface, I'm telling you. Dean is Dean. A, B is A. But he only went through a couple times, right? And I'm about to be there on Friday with my nigga Blue.

When he got in the ring and all that shit. Me and my brothers will be there. Blueface is? Wait, you, but the Dean, that warehouse they have that, they're not doing that anymore, right? Yeah. They got that warehouse for a year. It's over with what they were doing. Okay.

But this is still going to be utilizing it. Can I ask you a question at him? And you two are in this real life. All right. I have a physical proof. I know one of the models that got invited to one of their blind date shows on that Tuesday. And I got an invite to Rampage's Taco Tuesday. When I looked on the stream, Dean was in Miami and motherfucking A.B.

Was in out here at the warehouse. Boom. So I didn't think they weren't going to be there because A.Z and my nigger J. Shout to y'all the best promoters in L.A.A. and the motherfucking Hollywood, they do their thing in L.A. County. I love them. But I already knew where they was going to be. So I tried to avoid any type of conversation. I'm like, okay, rampage, because the streaming world is small. That's a top tier. The streamer world is not small. They're on our algorithm because they're out here. And guess what? I'm out here. So that's why I'm on everybody else's algorithm. You understand it? And as soon as they did somebody, that's from California, it automatically didn't do it out, but...

That's what it did, because if you just saw the second video, pull up my second video, I think that child... So you let the nigga violate you? No, he did not. He, bro, I had to see it from the video. So when you saw it... I couldn't go back in and the guy... Security were on the world.

But when you saw it, was you upset at which... Were your performance? I'm not even going to hold you. I'm not upset. I'm more disappointed because not only are we both, you know, we're black, you know, descending, whatever it is you want to call it. call it, but this world is small.

And they're acting, they're cosplaying rappers. You know how close I am to your neighborhood. Yeah. And I know, you know, I always tell people, always tell people, that's one of the most disciplined neighborhoods out here. So if you tell me seven securities was acting that way, you know one text

a hundred insane is going to pull up. Right, and that's the thing about it. Now, I can't win. Yeah, because then you put your car. Yeah. What am I doing this for? There'd be a good moment, but it's going to It's going to put everything up. I wouldn't even be here. Yeah, then all I started thinking, hell, no, he's pulling up with 100 crips.

Travis Ford. This is LA County chair. He's going to bring a cake. Don't bring a cake. He's going to look at it now. But then for the future relevance, he was like, fuck him. I hate him. No, I'm going to love the grip, but I'm not going to be like pull up.

Every time I did listen, I went to. I got his talk. Let's be real. He always cool with me. I went to. But, yo, you know, you know, Dude yourself. Tell him what you go about it for the record.

Hey, what's up, man. I'm Willie Beeman, Beeman, Gomez. WB23, M.I.N. That is on Instagram. That's on kick. I need y'all to follow in. That's a real name over there. For the win.

You hear me? I'm with my cousin. I want my twin. We're going to do it in. That's a real last name over there. All right. So can we talk about Gatgate? God!

You know, God! He violated Peanice's woman. Hey, no, he violated me. He violated me. I mean, you was crazy. I wouldn't have. He didn't prepare it. He didn't give me a trigger warning.

He did a preparedness. Like, hey, hold on. Because when he told him, my wife was coming there. This might fuck you up. My girl about to come in there. Chill. Think about it. Bro, how many people you got to correct?

I don't think of that. Be real. How many people you got to correct and tell them, hey, don't, my wife is. But they see, they know her. But with you, you were like, whoa. I got throwing off. I feel it. I can't blame you back.

That's on my soul. I was throwed, listen. What throw you off? What, he asked you. What threw you off? God. I wouldn't have tripped. My woman got ass.

And let's just say, R&B and her would get along. I wouldn't know that, dick. R&B and her would look, they would look good together and fuck us. Look, what's this shit? Look, bro. Skin tight.

I've seated. It's her. I didn't know what to do. He's a man of God, dog. I'm a man of God. God, you're in, bus. Put the sound out. You got to hear what it's...

We're not going to be... We're not going to be biased. You're married. And we're not going to disrespect your wife. That's why you're like cut off, stupid. So bad. My wife is here. I know.

That's why we're in talking about. Come here, Boogie. See? See? See? See? See, it's always something nice. That's your parents.

It's right. Come here. This is my wife. God. Relax. And then P. Nice pretends to like. He got mad.

He was pissed, but he didn't really want to jump out the window, but he was pissed. Here goes the thing, he didn't want to say nothing, but he had to say something. That was natural. He was so mad.

Here goes the thing, bro. Unless you're much-e-be, you know what you. He hated. No, he'd never seen her before. That's not a second-time seen her. I've never seen her. I'm saying is that's what I'm saying.

I didn't even cut it. I didn't even cut in the way. Peanice knows what his woman looks like. Right. Right. Right. So you got to know what niggins respond. If you don't look at, if you look at see my wife's ass and you don't take a double look,

I'm going to think you gay as a motherfucker. I thought he was going to take it as a compliment. Like, ah, you see that? Yeah. I thought he was going to say that. So once he said that, you see my art for him like, I apologize. It was a great moment. It was a good moment.

Yeah. It was a disrespect. And this is why he's fucked up, though, is because she's, he can see her for a little bit and he doesn't say nothing. The moment she gets on camera, he goes, yeah. And that's him having a dialogue with the audience. And that's why Pete Nice is pissed. It's because you were not having a conversation with Pete Nice. You were talking to the audience.

which I f*** with from a content creation perspective. But I understand why he's pissed because you know who you are right there? You ever watch the office? Yeah. You know, like something fucked up. Dwight will do something crazy. And then Jim will look at the camera and just be like, Oh, break the, that's what you were doing.

You were communicating with the home. He's at home. Listen, no disrespect to my brother. I love you, but it's like when it kind of booty like that, I didn't know. Oh, he hit the Deadpool talking to the camera like. Yeah. But look, this is how it happened. He's getting excited right now.

He's fouled. He got a clip. Bro, he got a 70-inch right by the door and the camera's right for the door. I'm looking at the door and it's a camera. Right on the scene. And it just comes right there. It just like, boom, bow, bow, boom, bang. I don't know it.

Bow, bow, bab, bab, bow, bow, bow. You had to freeze dance? Hold on. You better cut it out. Stop. Peankeye's going to make a phone call. At any given a moment, peanuts could come here. Hey, I told your ass.

Cut it out. But I like the moment, though, because both of y'all, the apology, and then the way he stood up for his wife, and it was just like a good moment. He stood up, he didn't do nothing wrong. Did you end the podcast right after that? He did. But then it was a weird job?

No, he did that. No, he was. It was weird. It was weird. It was weird. Because he was like, man, that's my wife, bro. And I had to keep saying, like, bro, I apologize. Like, I'm my bad.

Like, I didn't know, like, you was going to do that. He should know his wife. You got to warm my eyes, bro. I'm single. Here's the polite version of what you did. is if you said, yo man, congratulations, you got a beautiful wife. But people are saying you're not supposed to say that no more.

Yeah, they said that. I'm saying that. I think that viral way was just talking about that. That's what my dad would say. My dad would be like, hey, congratulations, Rios, you have a beautiful wife. You can't say that. Not, yeah.

Bro, if they got it like that, it was an accident, I didn't mean that. But if somebody did that to my wife, that's why I married her. But you ain't married, so you don't really know what? Yeah, so. There's all kinds of different.

I'm assuming she's not like an IG model, you know, like that's the difference to me and a lot of people is that, yeah, everybody looked at her on there. I don't know. If your girl is, I've never met her. I'm assuming she's kind of more of a normal chick. I was in my first time. I didn't know that she went to Miami, Dominican Republic. I didn't know her from McKenna.

I didn't even look at this lady. What she means she went there for what? It threw me off. I never. What do you mean she went to Miami, Dominican for what? To do squats and work out. You think that's a trainer out there? Oh, you said she got a BBA.

You think that's augmented? I didn't even. I didn't say that. That's not what he said. He said the Dominican Republic. To work out. Work out. Well, that's a good place to party.

How would you go to the fucking Dior to work out? They have great gyms. You go on there to get surgery. Great trainers, great food. Miami, you go to get surgeries. I'm telling me. Look at it. Go back to, go back to his face.

What the fuck? What did they go? Go back to his page now. So if he got that up, go back. Slide down. Slide down. No. Feel free to scroll through that Pino's Instagram.

If he got that up, bro. I put pictures of my woman up all the time. Don't show that, but... If you go to Pete Natch's Instagram, you're going to instantly know what we're talking about. Bro, nigga on the set, you don't you ever, man! Don't you ever, bro! That's the homie, I'm tripping, nigga on it's set. No, if you put that up, you can't be tripping.

But he's not putting it up on the no-jumper platform, though. No, that's his Instagram. The homie ain't never been out there. That's his IG. You can't be there. He ain't never been there. And I'm speaking from a guy that put that type of shit. He can't put that type of stuff up and then get mad at the comments.

So do you think he would be offended putting that up here? Why? No, he can't. It's up for the world. We know where you went. I just, I don't want to show it because of the context of this conversation. He knows they've never been in Dominican Republic. Bro, bro, bro, to whom?

Bro, listen. New York. I can talk about it. One mic. One mic. With your wife, you, you cool, you know she's beautiful. You know she's got what's going. I don't tell you, I don't give a fuck.

His girl, dummy cheeks stuff. I don't get, bro. If you get a gay, if you don't, that's what you want to happen. He got that good down south home cooking. Listen, that's what he want to come from. Mississippi, crooked butter. Look, this is how it works.

When you see it, when you see it, I'm a human. I know he's going to take the second look. On the second look is when you probably realize what you didn't realize the first look. you're going to realize it's a man there. Now, after the second look, then it's a problem. Whatever than that, whack, whack.

I know what you for, I just, I got one piece of advice for you in regards to me. Don't kick the bucket early. Oh, I went back. Because I'm not, our friendship is out, as soon as you're going, it's out the window. Adam, you got to remember. I'm in there. Like, swim by him.

She's been so molded from who she was in the bee to where, if I did kick the bucket, she up anyway. I think she wanted to try the French vanilla. Oh, you? The French vanilla. Bro, Adam, you got to remember. You know black women laugh at you because they know you want to be a nigger. Yeah, that's kind of like my whole charming thing.

It's like, oh, he thinks she's one of us. And I'm waiting for your wife to hit you on that. I try to put some dick in there before that really got. I wish I had a black woman like that for a wife. No, you don't. This fool be saying that, bro. No, you don't. He said that.

I'll be like, yo, either his wife is super cool or she don't hear that shit. No, you know. You're like, I wish I had a black woman like there for a watch. No, she knows, she knows. I kind of actually respect the whole wifey and the whole marriage type of thing, but it'd be like, like, if you don't have relationships like you guys do, like this. Well, he ain't let anybody pipe his girl sadly. Yeah, that's crazy. That sucks.

Because you are a fucking beast. You let anybody free of the week. Yeah. And what about anybody? The top, like the top 10 male porn stars in the world. You're talking about like it's just a random top. I'm fucking hairy. No, but he's just talking about comments.

You're worse about comedy. Frosty lets random Mexicans on Figueroa his girl in their car. From East Coast, you're worse than him. It's not a frosty, but I mean, that's the game. Yeah, no, you know, you're worse than my cousin Civo. And that's why he got to take out his anger on the Pokemon car. He does some things like that.

And he's like, why? I'd be like, why? But you love her? And he'd be like, no, I don't. He'd be like, y'all just do certain things that's not. Listen, there's a big difference between letting J. Mack have a turn with your girls so you can make, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars on Onlyfans and letting this guy, fuck your girl in, in his car on fig.

I'm just saying, let's talk. I'm just saying, you went five for a girl on your car on fig. That's a Santa Fe. If he has some money burning a hole in his pocket, he might be on fig. That's a lie. Him with the Eddie Guerrero cut. Oh, God. That's a quick hundred fifty.

No, no, he probably got some girls on, on fig right now. He said 150. He's marketing. No, I'm looking at the shoes. So, so. What's your numbers look like? That's what? Okay.

Oh, look, I'm not even going to hold you. Because I've been going down for, I've been streaming for 30, 30 days, right? And I put a 38 plow down. I already have a distribution sponsorship from CaliFug. Thank you. Let's go. They throw it in my hand like it belong to me. People you'd be having on there.

I have, as far as my viewers, like, probably like 1530. I'm not even going to hold you. I'm not, I'm not monetized. 15,000? No, no, no. 15, 230. And look how viral are you are 15 to 30. That's what happens when you don't buy viewers is you might have 30.

That's vicious, though. Do you hear that? That's vicious. And your hard work, you're outside as hot as a motherfucker that you stream. Every day, I'm outside. I do this shit for real. And I want to put this in people here, like, I won't try to understand this. It's not hard to stream.

As blacks, we do it. Oh shit. No, because as blacks, we turn that camera on when the police pull us over if we ain't got nothing wrong with us. So I'm just telling you, and that's not to be most, I want it to be, like, cultural. But I want you to know. Is it risky for you to be out and about streaming, given that you're really from somewhere?

This is my utmost respect. That's why I'm telling y'all, this world is so small I get into anywhere from streaming because people don't want to look bad on camera. Girls don't want to look bad on camera. Men don't want to look bad on camera because it's live. Once they know that you're streaming, especially if you have a camera on you or somebody's holding your camera,

they learn to change your whole tone. I see this all the time. Girls act more aggressive. Men act more like passive. Wait, when the cameras rolling, the girls are more aggressive? They're aggressive. Oh, shit. Because if they feel they don't look good, they don't want to be in your camera.

If you talk shit, they're going to talk shit back. They're going to try to protect their self because it's emotion. As a man, we think of the pivotal point of, like, I want to look good off the dribble. So a man, like, I ran into security. I didn't run into doorman. Then they don't want to get looked like a weirdo. because they don't know who they're dealing with. So they automatically go on the fold.

As far as women, you got to, like, you know, you got to protect their image. That's why you have all these streamers beefing with women because women are going to stand their ground. A man, we want to stand in the back like, ooh, are. Chilling, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Put me out there, the women don't.

So that's why these things invite girls to a point that they're depleting all the women that they're around because you disrespect it all of them. And as you see, every streamer has somewhere to go. And as me being a popular underground streamer out here, you know what I'm saying? It gives me a lot of leverage. But then when I come around, like, I didn't reach the goal, the pinnacle of where I'm around people like that, that I'm getting invited by Instagram models and high-end people.

And then when I get in there, I'm disregarded or thrown in the trash by the people that are mimicking my culture. I was just talking about that shit. So you get it. So understand what... Do you feel like we have an epidemic of people that are, like, copying LA culture? Yes, cosplay. We got a lot of trauma for, for fucking, not only for monetizing. But if you're wearing, if you're saying c or if you even like so much out of a blue rag,

you said that's like, co-sign, like, I feel like that of that argument ain't going to go that far. No, it does. It goes very far because at the end of the day, we have people that understand that's a business mind like myself, that understands the point of just. It's like, no, no disrespect for my boy, Desta. But he's selling f***'s shorts. An awful lot of fuckus shorts. They're wearing it, right?

When he kicked me on, he had that own. Really? If you go look at my strings. I've seen like awful lot of fairs. If you go look at it and said, no. Look at it when they kick me out, it has fuck cuss on the back of those shorts. You know what's so disrespectful? And that's disrespected.

What? I'm going to be real. I'm going to be real. I'm going to be real. Hold on the same. Why is, don't, whack, don't change the subject. Like, why is it disrespectful, like, dub is from out here? No, I ain't changed the subject.

Nicker, you lucky you didn't get DP when you got back over there. Do you understand? You understand. Nick, they had a digger that day with a... Did he let him say that? Well, what? He let a motherfuckin' non-crip. You're supposed to blow down the guy.

Don't want you got a nigga kick him out of something. And then used the cripping and he's not a crib. He got a fuck. And then he didn't crash. You didn't get a lot? Listen. I got extended family over there, right? He's lucky, you know, I'm telling the truth.

I'm not lying. His ass didn't get over there, nigga. Think about how I feel. They kicked him out and this in a fucking cubs. You say, you got, you got f***ing cuss on the back of your shorts. I'm from insane crib, you kick me out. And then if you see the video, I'm like, hey, bro, I'm on no smoke. Cud, what?

You're not from nowhere else here. You're supposed to get off. I'm supposed to jeopardize everything. This is what they were going to tell me. Listen. You're going to tell me. They're gonna tell him, they're gonna tell him, you're telling me the streaming come before this Cripping?

Every time. That's where they're going. Every time. Look, they, all it's going to be is oh insane. That's, oh, and it's, get out now here. You're tripping. You're tripping. You gotta go.

That's what I'm saying. You're lucky. You hear what I'm getting that. You got, I got multiple calls. I got multiple calls because it's like, is you are, is the streaming, is your future to pretty much for me? It's like, is your future big enough? than our ego, then what we, what you said for.

You see what I'm saying? I did eight years in this shit. I'm gonna say, I did, and not eight years of crib. I'm talking about prison and storming plan, in and out. I just got it last year of June. So I'm telling you like, I just left politics. So I automatically fall into a politician, say to mine when I seen it. And his last name got some roots over there.

All right, so we're in here. We gonna do what we gotta do. All right. So when you disrespect me, I'm trying my heart is like, hey, bro. Right. I'm from baby insane crypt. Let me leave without the extras. I don't want you to do nothing to where I'm going to have to crash out because y'all,

your homie's in search me. It's going to be bad. You got to get it with my instinct of survival. Imagine you killed. I have to protect my mind. I would never want to know her harm or danger to that man. I just want to. I mean, you were alluded to it.

Like, I'm just being. They didn't search you. Like what you got butternoy? I just want this guy in prison. All you mean is one of these. Oh God. I just want to challenge this authenticity. You know what I'm saying?

It's an AK-47. You hear me? And I want to tell it. Look, look, look, look, look, my little, but it ain't there. Look, I got about that piece. Look, look, that's the ball. And my shit. Take this out.

Yeah. Jesus, please. Adam, for real, he is lucky dating trip. But wait, how did that conversation go, though? Because that's actually a mature conversation that you had to have. have. You know what I mean? And I tried to have it in multiple, like, situations where it's like, hey, look, hey, can I talk to you? His friends, as you see, the first time they kicked me out, who is this

man? The second time they kicked me out, it was more of a situation of, all right, hey, everybody shook my hand. And then when I came to him, and you see, I slow mode, yo, look, I didn't even see that until we played it back. So it's like, I know I had sex with the women you had sex with. I'm Willie Beaming. I did that. So you hear something as bro? I'm Willie Beaming.

I keep the lady. I keep screaming. When I fill him up, I fill him up with seaming with this McConnell. You almost got me, bitch, but I got you first. Is there any particular woman that you had sex with close to the time that they had sex with her or something?

I feel that Dean is light skin and he's going through short man syndrome. And at that time of, we could be friends. because I don't even have beef with this young man and I would do anything for you but at the end of the day, for this streaming world to be so small, you are not standing tall.

You are putting people down that might look up to you and I look at it like this, like this world is so small and before I get taken on a mainstream level where we got Beyonce's and we got no ditties doing these shit on there,

you need to expand this world. Even right now, this is vlogging right now, right? You have a beautiful podcast that have got you multiple wealth and a great standard and a stature of who you are. In the streaming world, AB got him where he's at,

but AB never signed those, that paperwork. So he's able to contain. So no matter how much as you see on both of my shit, let's just be transparent and use our penal gland. And you see on both of them,

AV had nothing to do with it. Even when he had somebody come through with the grill and situation, it'd be like, yeah, I flew out for you. And he said, well, that,

you know, that contradicts what I got going on. But that's what Dean now has to deal with because Dean was looking for his way that he could, like,

really make it as a streamer. So getting sucked. And then he found a relationship slapped. Okay, okay. The buff can we, can I just talk? Go ahead.

And so then he finds this psychotic former pro boxer who's the worst alcoholic you ever met in your life. And all of a sudden he's lit. We're wearing the same. same outfits the whole world goes crazy for it and now he's sentenced to have to deal with the mental illness and the alcoholism and the bullshit that got ab into the position that he's in now

anyway and there was like a flicker of where it felt like ab was maybe going to kind of like really appreciate the opportunities the dean was trying to give him he just did a 45 day locking and he was getting fucked up the entire time why did they do that 45th well god damn because they were trying to get ready for boxing and then said he just got drunk his character is predicated on him being fucked up. That's what he came into. But I think that the reason why people... He's over up, he ain't gonna be...

There he is. People are invested in the idea of AB, like, changing his life. If he's just constantly getting... That he's getting health problems. Right. Yeah, because he drinks all day, every day. So the boxing is over with.

So right now... Right, but he's still, if he stopped getting fucked up for like six months, I think we all know that he would be able to at least be able to... He's not funny anymore. We don't want to watch him. He's not funny drunk. Bullshit.

It's a lie. He's not. It's a motherfucking lie. Real time. It's entertaining. When was the last time that AB had a good moment when he's drunk? He told Selena, Powell,

I almost didn't want you to make it through that cough. Hey, let's see that bitch. It's overrated. People like the idea of it, but like the clips they go viral are not AB just being funny on camera. It's depressing. Bro.

It's sad. He's loaded. Call it what you want. He's loaded and it's like, what the fuck did he just say? Right. What the fuck did he just do? I mean, I'm telling you, right, it's probably, we're probably fucked up for it.

As a streamer, that's a short step. That is not where, like, that does not last. It never has and it never will. Let me tell you what it has done. And AB, forgive me. Being AB, go back. We love you, A.B. Z. I think I told you this.

You don't remember I was trying to get A.B. to sober him up. I was going back and forth to Vegas. A.B. was, bro was fucked up, bro. He's fucked up right now. No, no, no, no, he ain't. I'm talking about he. He was fucked up. Oh, money was?

Like, like, when I met him, he was. Adam. Bad fucked up. Like, I don't know what I'm gonna be tonight. And now he's gotten this second lease on life that anybody in their right mind

would appreciate and take advantage of and he's doing the same exact shit. Well, no, I see. He could probably get a million dollars for a fight right now if he got in shape and was really. Right now he can get some money. That's what I'm saying.

Like, he could, he has all these opportunities in front of them that. We have, you know, he's still trying to die. He is powerless. to his alcoholism. Don told us, y'all get him sober, get him a match, I sign off and let y'all do that. But whack, for him to get sober right now,

how much he's been drinking, it's not just I'm going to put the bottle down. He is in the drinking where it's deadly for him to stop drinking type of shit. He might die. Stop. We need to send him with lush. Can I really please address it?

Corrupt like that. So he never had to step away before and then come back. Y'all got to understand this. Cosplay is real. That's why I'm addressing right now. Like L.A. owns being a drug addict? No, we have.

It doesn't have to do because he's not from here. He even f***ed off Vegas. He's the f***ed up Miami. That's why he got a case right now. It has nothing to do it. I'm saying that this cosplay, when you get stuck in a character, a GTA character, you have to play it out to the end. So Dean is playing this character.

A.B. has to play off a character for everybody. If you see, he's uncomfortable. That shit. Yeah, AB is uncomfortable, bro. He stuck up for me and he didn't have to because the last couple of, of videos that got him viral about me was negative. Dean? No, AB.

Dean doesn't. I fuck with Dean, man. Dean is young. Dean, I understand it because at the end of the day, he wouldn't disrespect me. He would never, if he knew who I was, and what was going on and where he was at, he would never disrespect me. You got to be out here. Also, why would he not reach to you guys?

Let's put you on. Let's get you going. Like, as a brother, like, hey, man, I see you do your thing. I said that all the time about all of them. You and Dean the same, bro. I say him all the time about all of them, though, brother. You're an asshole like him. Why are you having one conversation while they're having another conversation?

This is a bad pocketing. This is a bad pocketing. Well, bro, first of all, he's repeated itself. Rios and him are literally talking and then you start talking to me separately. And now you're doing it again. Whack,

whack, one mic, one mic. We got a cohesive conversation makes for good podcast. I'll get this out of yours. I'm here for you. Go ahead, man.

Yo, what the f- He thinks he's tight. You got a license. You got a license. Somebody got to take up a dean. He got a mic. Anybody in here don't dislike it.

I love him. No, I don't dislike him. I love him. I just don't like how he prioritized off of utilizing and scrutinizing our time of L.A. County of saying certain words that I had to get socked in the head be put to bed and filled up with lead

for him to do what he want. I just feel like saying because it's like, I agree. It is kind of weird. Like, why are you saying that shit so much? Like, it's kind of awkward. But it's like, it's like. It's like. I ain't that big a deal.

I ain't going to be, listen. And he said, blood. People laugh at it. Kill the blood. But people all over the country said co and blur that are not gang members. They started doing it the way they were doing it.

They were kind of making a mockery of it. And it was like starting to, you. I don't think Dean's making a mind. I think Dean is saying co- because he thinks it sounds cool as for the same reason we all think gang-main and shit is kind of cool, right? And I feel it's disrespectful for people to get cloud off of something that traumatizes me and my people. You mad because he got busy.

off of it and you didn't. Yeah, I'm not mad off of none of that. Because for him to get big off of it, I didn't take it like that. I took it as trauma-traumization, bro. I did eight years in this prison system. I didn't been stabbed. I didn't have 300 versus 100 blacks on a prison bar. It's the entertainment business, though.

No, we're not going to play that. So I felt that it was a guideline when you come around here, somebody at least lace your boots to hang out with the troops so we don't shoot. I'm saying, we're going to get it anywhere we want to or whatever we got on a day homies, and you know that. So at the end of the day, I could have showed out because I'm not mentally, I'm not clicked there. So if I would have boom-bob-boom, boom, boom, then what?

Now I'm just a clip for you to talk about. You could be like, you know, you're like, take it in the right way and bow down. Like, hey, look, I'm from here. Just let me leave on the set so I can save face for another day. And then you do it again at Rampage Jackson and got him feeling like, what the going on? And you see the intentional hate for something. somebody that's in the same field to you and you don't want me to eat.

But they don't want to share the clout. That's the problem. Because they think you might be a weirdo. And I'm just saying that that's what they, but that's why their guard is up is because they don't know if they fuck with you. And if you don't with someone, you don't want to give them any opportunity. The same reason that we don't want to take photos with random fucking people because they can end up being a weirdo.

Their weirdo, like radar is so highly tuned because when you're a streamer, everybody does weird shit to you. When you're famous, everybody's going to act crazy to you. What are they even know you from? How did you even get to? I know, that's why it's weird. How did you even get to that fucking cop-in? Because he was with some girls.

He was with girls. We might be talking about this too much, but. No, that ain't what I'm saying. He was with girls. He came with a bunch of girls. That ain't. I know, but to them, that's like, who's there. I don't know who you are.

I didn't even know they were going to be at the second location with Rampage. I can show you a text that's just right now where I, Listen, I'll show you right now where I didn't know they were one to be there. Look, I got receipts. I don't even do that. I'm going to go to Taco Tuesday. Look at this. Look at this.

Look at this. What does I say? Let my oxy is. So could you know he's detective? I have to cross her name. My wife says my homie's going to get to the top. Also, she, the women invited you. That's a whole other woman.

No, that's not a one. No, this is a woman that's going to Dines in them shit. Look, you know what I'm saying? A female invited. No. I got invited by one of the motherfucking, not, not only one of their PRs or whoever works for Rampage. Oh, okay.

Okay. But look at that right there. Oh, the lady. This is the lady. What's the big lady? I know who about it. Okay, then. You tell you.

What I'm saying? It's a lot different. Like, when I went up there, A.B. said, whack, pull up. So when I got there, AB said, you know what I'm saying? But he's at Rampage house.

So you got to wiggle. You got to just show up. You got to try to get yourself in the right door. You know, man, Rampage Jackson house. So y'all not supposed to be here. Y'all had a whole other. y'all got a blind date thing going on so i try to avoid y'all and i come over here and then i get kicked out out of a whole another nether's house that don't know what's going on so did and then he said d and see what he's saying

because shorts like yeah and what you say is you could have handled it you took it you you did it the good way i i stalled y'all out and you treat me this way and i could have done it the different way right and i stalled you out twice twice you're getting soft neff you should have way no no he was was over there, I did not know they were there. You should have waited outside. You should have fought rampage. If you saw my shit, I should have fired on somebody, huh? Rampage and beat your ass.

He choked that in the bang out. He choked that one for a quick. Touch me, you bitch, I was going to jail. Tats me, I sue. So after they put you out, Dean does his famous. Fucker. Damn. Damn.

Yeah, that's tough. Hey, that's tough. Hey, Adam's four, bro. That's tough. That's tough. That's tough. That's tough. Rock with me, talk to me real quick.

All the loks out here that is, y'all didn't let niggas, y'all didn't let niggas do whatever they want on them. How do you feel about a nigga that's a native that, that it did eight years in this shit, bro? Prison style. I'm talking about I've been doing this my whole life, but I didn't get eight years where you n'clock will never go. And they said the military or prisons is the only thing that's going to make you a man. That's how I grew up on. So I don't know about this new standard, but on me. Free Willie.

How do you all feel about it? You got free Willie. Free Willie. Yo, Wack, I feel like you have more issues to talk through with Rios here. You're like, where's your smoke emanating from here. I don't know where Rio's talk. Where the hate. Where the hate come from, Rio?

Yeah, why you hate? So, I don't even know you. Look at this. Check you out. I don't even know of this, dude. From just, my thing was, I see what the value is because what you are, like, it's like, you are an anomaly, an anomaly inside of a conundrum. Right? inside of a vest.

So you are something that is not seen everywhere. And I look and I, because I'm starting to pay attention now, because you see where I came from and I was just like sliding with how I slide, teaming up with the team. You know what I mean? Where we at, we're at. But now that I get to pay attention, I get to see the movement. And it's not normal and people are handling you normal.

No, you can't do that. And it's like, y'all don't even see. I saw you just put down a demo on how to extract information and give nothing. That's the fact. And that's the shit that blew my eyes. I was like, oh, I see it now. Well, you got to understand. I come from.

So my thing is, so I'm raised. I'm 45. I was raised by some real ninjas, real snipers, real samuraizes. You move how you move and you be cool. I see it. I'm like, oh, these motherfuckers don't. You thought before I was just like... I thought you was just moving.

You just moving on this? You thought I was just like... Nah, the shit is calculated. You from where? Bankroll? Were you... Are you... Are you off in Long Beach?

Okay, what you're a rapper? What's on? You from insane too? Well, you just came on from bank row? Do I see you got the... You got the hardware on? What up, gee? How are you living?

Hey, what's up, man? How y'all doing? What's up, man? Hey, come on, man. You don't remember him? I don't remember what blocks. We got to, like, they're not going to be about hearing shit with the mic. Oh, no, I don't, I don't know none of y'all, diggers, okay.

I didn't even meet the one you interview. Hey, small name, say what I, see what I, three? You're the one in interview? Oh, you went back or something? Yeah, yeah. They can't see with everybody in front of the, we got to get some order going. Hey, so you know the crazy part, I cussed Al Shahn out today. Al Shahn Man.

He calls me and tells me I'm in New York, and we're going to pull up on Fabio 4. And, you know, my mind immediately goes to, hold on, nigger, you're going to pull up on Fabio 4 and you got nephew with you. I said, are you thinking right now? He got Jap 5, would he? Oh. And listen, bro, I think a whole other time. type of way. You get what I'm saying? Because they are highly upset

about this last situation. You know, I got to I got the blame for it first. You can spell a lot more because I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. Pop smoke. Oh yeah, yeah, I know. But why would he give a fuck about Jab 5 that had nothing to do with it? Nick, he's going to put what? That ain't how that work. He was locked up the whole time all this shit was going on. Listen, it ain't every day we got direct access sitting in our city what a motherfucker.

Yeah, very controversial. There's people in New York are going to fuck for me because I interviewed him. And I'm telling out, I'm like, Alshan, what you doing out? Who are you got?

You can't be taking nephew and them gutters like that because they ain't never scored on us. Nobody's ever came back from New York on a Delta flight in the cargo area. They've always left LAX going somewhere else. It's a fact.

We ain't lost none out of the way. So, you know, I got the blame first for that. shit. What's the boy, Corey King went crazy on me. He swore of God I had something to do with it. I was in fucking Germany somewhere on a game tour when that shit happened. So,

and I didn't meet him when he came down and interviewed with you. You rapping and all that? Wasn't you rapping? No, I just started rapping. You just started? I just started. I just started recently, like, maybe like a year ago, but I went to jail for nine months. Everybody's out that has something

that went down for that, right? Two people out. Yeah, two of us out. Two out of four? Yeah, two in jail. Got you. So what's your plan now? Yeah.

My plan now is shit, stay out the way with this shit, rap. I don't know if you do this shit. But rap. Rap, shit, YouTube. You need a manager. Basically. I'm trying to turn the same. I got just the guy.

Talking to unc right now. Let's go. Your career can go as delightfully as game and, And blue face. No, but he's not, I'm just saying that's what he need. He knows what he wants to do. He just don't know when to do it, how to do it,

where to go do it at. I mean, he got a story to him. You know what I'm saying? You got to remember, man, dude was a big deal. Even though he was just on the come up. That's like, um,

he was Draco with a, what a bigger song. And fucking Pop Smoke was. You know what I'm saying? No. Top Smoke was huge, way bigger than Drake. That's what I'm saying? What I'm saying?

What a bigger song? so he only had one, so he had a, oh, did the nigga from drop an album? I think he had that one, Dior, Dior. That's what I'm saying. Well, you probably heard the song, but you didn't know the- Yeah, in New York, it was all pop, smoke, everything. We knew the song, though. He had a song that crossed.

Right here. He had a song that crossed, but you, people still kind of, they pissed off about that interview you did. I remember we caught all kind of blowback about that. but people still curious. But it's all like salty industry heads because then I'm in like Brooklyn with Bobby Schmurter and all his

I'm with like 200 cribs nobody said a word about it. I didn't even think about it. I'm not even thinking about that. It could have killed me that day. I was on zero. No security, no nothing. I was chilling.

By yourself. I just think, I just think, I mean, I kind of know what he should do. And you probably could do it in a couple weeks of bro be out here. he need to be in the high seat, but he got to have a project to drop. Put him in a high seat with an East Coast motherfucker, right?

Academic to somebody. And, and, but you got it. From there, turn it up. He can do it. Like, let's go. If I ask him to do it, he'd do it. He needs to be in that high seat, but you got to have a project.

You got to have some, you know what I'm saying? Because once the eyes are on you, then what? You know what I'm saying? And you probably need a little. media training because what you want to do, 40% you probably should do. And then there's some other things you got to do to try to like, because you was young back then. Was you still a minor?

I was 16. Yeah, so they hit you, they didn't charge it as an adult. Okay, you got lucky. They booked me, nigga. I got booked. Guard is good. You know what I'm saying? So you still got a card that you can play to win some favor.

Yeah, for sure. You know, if you're rapping ain't garbage. They're not. They said that's not. You're gonna see. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's all you see. Alright, so, and then, wait, you're from insane.

So you rap. You're rap. You look like a motherfucking rapper of the day. You're all this coming out of the city, you know what's saying? You're fucking savvy? Yeah, that's my brother on the cell. I was just in the group chart with the U and DW. Oh, okay, oh, that's you.

That's me on the hood. Guys, I gotta go do the, no, I gotta go do the Fireman Challenge. Yeah, a little insane crib meeting sitting on the Adam and Wackfather. on the Adam and Wack brother. You know, I got extended family over there. Shout out. Chuck,

that's a comfort zone. Shout out the original Chuck as well. Shout out the original Chuck as well. From the east side. So what you got up? Joe. Shit, man, I'm just out the way, man. Free my ankle, man.

Free my ankle, man. Free my ankle, though. You see what I mean? You got to get me. Oh. They had you. Did you see how, you know I got on DC baby,

Draco about how he did you. Was that you he was interviewing? Yeah. You didn't see what he did too? Oh yeah. I got on it. No, we got to talk about it because we got on his ass. Because I, Nick, get your punk ass up on it.

Willie, you take my shirt. Listen. So this nigga, D.C. baby Draco's interviewing him. And guess he asked a question. And then at the same time he had some Jap 5 conversation going on. And the nigger went and edited it as a. if he said, oh, man, that nigger was leaving the dorm, throwing up neighborhood and all kind of shit, right?

So I hit Jap. I said, what is he talking about? He said, I don't know what he talks. So I hit D.C. He's like, whack. I edited. I said, bro, why are you editing interviews? You can't take out four words and then it running to something else.

You can't do. And see, that's something you got to learn. You got to let a nigger know, hey, they don't edit nothing going on. Because just that fast, I know you woke up to all kind of. calls, not knowing what they was talking about. I said, bro, I said, I think, let me call DC and DC told me he had to. I ain't we can shit. Nah, no, no, no.

That's just, you know, that's an honest mistake. In his lifestyle, you make errors. You know, he made an error. He fixed it. Simple. So, maturity. So the issue wasn't with Jap. No, no issue at all.

No. No. You know, one thing about Jap, he's level-headed. Now, that's my guy. Shout out to Jab. Yeah, Jabbed. You ain't going to just get him off his square that is. Yeah, not, not, no, no.

You say he needs media training, don't sound like it to me. Mature as hell right there. That's a great answer. No, no, that was definitely a great answer. But, you know, when you're going in there with a wolf-like act. Oh. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

I think he can handle it. I think he can't. It's safe practice. You know, I was a Y baby, so I had practice going in front of the parole boards. You know, we know they ain't going to let us go because we didn't had eight write-ups and shit like that. Oh, so why? You was really like a jail, nigger, huh? Oh, my, what?

What? I started doing time. Got it? Listen, Paula, you from insane? I'm from East Coast. Which one? Six, six. I'm all of them, but I'm six.

All right, girl. You know, you know, youngs are from six dudes? Yeah, you keep asking. You know, you know, you know, C loco from A-9? It's not a person from- No, do you know C-Loco from A-9? I'm asked you a question. He's not trying to leave with that, what?

He's not. Hold on, I got it. You know, see a professional, right? You know, C-Loco from A-9. I'm not a pop-office in the whole thing. You know who C-Loco is from 8-9? For shit, sir. You know?

You know? I don't think you back. I just look like this. Look, this is my first time ever been out of prison for a year. This is my first time I've been out of prison for a year, brother. So listen. So let me fill you in a little bit. Oh, man.

Matter of fact, want me to call the 8-9 so they can tell you who C-Loco is? Go home. I believe you. Oh, soon. I ain't gonna hold you. Hey, this is a vision. We're gonna have fun with your crazy-ass. Yonks are my man from me.

That's Dico you call him? That's Dico? Dico because of me. Yeah, that's Frigo Dico. He got it. It's only one. It's only one. Dico.

I don't do no lining, no pop it. It's only one, Dico. I just said about that exact the car he didn't have. You hear me? He got music coming out. Y'all was the one they didn't bring me any areas until you put me. Hold on. I'm in here with a nigga from 6-6 East Coast, right?

So I asked him, he said he know all of. So I asked him if he knows C. Hold on. I asked him if he knows C. Hold on. loco from 8-9 and he told me wait wait wait and he told me yeah he knows C-local from 8-9 so I'm gonna ask you who see loco from 8-9 I'm asking you for me Dico tell this nigga who see loco is from 8-9 hold on hold on wait wait wait be quiet

tell him who C-Loco is from 8-9 you see loco from 8-9 boy we didn't put work in that's me I'm a holl at you little bro yeah boy this listen I got keys to Mary Street you understand I'd have been down that quite a few times. He's going to call you later, right, and he's going to tell you something. No, listen. I don't think you hear him with him telly.

I know you're not. Do you hear what I'm telling you? Okay, then. Dicke, that's my second home over there. For real, for real. That's going to call I know you is. So, my mama, I'm a mob-todied. Hey, so we got who's, which one is from?

A-Trey, right? What he said, all of them. Huh? This nigga I don't know all that, but you're from 80-30. Hey, Trey. Insane. We got the East Coast. Oh, listen, we got a nice mix.

We got... Y'all got the south side of Chicago up in has... You from Chicago? Yes, sir. You know, I'm going to tell you what y'all. I got a bunch of Chicago niggas I f*** with, but I still get all y'all shit mixed up. I don't be knowing about this nigga, G.D., a BD.,

the East West, South. I don't... I just be knowing me and this nigga doing some business. I didn't accidentally had two dicks together who from different sides. I learned today about a chief and a king and the... Yeah, y'all got... They got some whole other...

But I can respect they build because they build is like California. It's original. It's a lot of politicians, though. It's original. And y'all are the only city that got something down here from your city. Yeah, you know what I'm doing. You know, the demographics are all over. But, you know what I'm not.

Gotcha. So you down here with these crazy niggas? Man, we outside. Got you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Cold mix. Cold mix. But see, that's what you need to be.

Is you strength? You need to, you got the mix you need. Yeah, I brought up. Because ain't, ain't nobody doing them type of strings and the bike scene streams. Right, right, right. No. I told Greg DeBarber, the one that knocked Shug out. You need to start doing the bikes, the bike scene strings.

No, no, no, because we're a whole different world. I told a nigga that's about Greg DeBarb and Shig and how. That's great reason about this. That's my nigga. He kept a nigga, get some weird shit. He waited two hours for that nigga to come out of that club. By herself. You know what I'm saying?

So, you know, I, I understand it. You know, two of my artists, they stream. And, you know, I'm talking to them people that's over that water. And it's definitely a method to the madness. Do you understand where I'm getting at? And by me? No, you don't want to fuck your hand off. You don't want to scare the people.

You understand that because how am I going to get some money? I learned from you. Because you could be as gay as you want. But when that time to get that money, don't be fun. It's a time and place for every day. Do you understand me? And if you don't want to, if you don't want me to pull you to the side to get that time and place, it's all right. Because these other people are going to give it to me.

But you got a dangerous. thing about yourself. A motherfucker, they don't know you, they misread you. But that's good because it gives you a lane to be who you are, and they never know that they've been put on the list for later on. So that means you're going to manage my situation? You can't be managed, nigga. You manage the unmanageable, though.

You manage the unmanageable. Just tell me no. Tell me no on the street. Don't do the ones. I watch you. If anybody can do it, Wack could do it. Shout out to my. If anybody can do it, Wack and do it.

For sure. If anybody can do it, I can do it. I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna tell you this. Tell me what's the thing. Whenever you're doing your shit, you have to do your business. You can't never let people feel like they gotta do business with your hood. You know what I'm saying?

Because the minute they start feeling like that is like we can't grow together. I'm telling you like a motherfucker. And like they don't tell you, but word travels real quick. I mean, you got to deal with him in his whole neighborhood and 50 other niggas. That's why I don't know that. So they let them deal with you and then you deal with that. Because if not it's going to handle your business, bro. All my artists, I deal with them.

They got their teams and their crews or whatever and I know who I need to know. You know what I'm saying? And other than that, I just lean on them to do whatever they're going to deal with. But always make sure your business is in your square and don't force them to, everybody ain't for everything, you gotta go to an office visit, take your ass to office, I feel that one, two people, you cool. You know what I'm saying? It's always good to have to email with you there too.

Free game. You get what I'm saying? And then with the female, what you do, you say, hey, take her email down. If you can't get a hold of me, she's always on top of my shit. So now I was like, okay, he got his business in order. You know, usually when you see me, you see my woman. You know what I'm saying? But do it like that and make people a little more comfortable working with you.

And I'm going to say the sad thing is urban music is in the ditch right now. So the shit he's doing, learn from it because you cross that with what you're doing, right? Then it works. Period. Because they watch it from every angle. They don't care about what you're doing. They don't care of you. And y'all from a real mysterious city, bro.

Do you know who you buy? Because when the niggas say Long Beach, the world thinks Snoop Dog. True. But it's a whole lot more than Long Beach than just Snoop Dog. I'm not even going to hold you. Which means, listen, which means. There's a whole lane out there that people want to know about. They want to see.

Right, right. You get what I'm saying? Okay. On some real shit. That's the BBS background. I know you be around the town, but he's the hottest thing going down. Tide, he's going to get out. No, he didn't want.

No, he didn't want. No, he did. I know. I know what it is now. So streaming is a springboard right now. Hell, bro. It's the springboard into whatever else you're doing. I'm a part of the underground world.

Streaming is a new rotation of radio. Remember how important radio was? It's streaming. Right? Yeah. So that's cut off the middleman. Yes, it does. The middleman is gone.

But look, they did that only in California because what's going on in 2028. I just turned down a whole album deal because I told him a whole album deal for one of my artists. I said, why would I do that when I can just go make the money streaming to make another album? And the motherfucker of money be made times 10 before it even come out. And then I put it up anyway, and we own the rights to it. And don't need no forwarded money. Don't need no advances, nothing. Nicket's just going to sit there.

When you do, listen, a 24-hour stream for like 20 days, and you maintain, let's say, 20,000 people, pay you about 800,000. Come on, whack, turn my shit up there, man. And guess what, that world is this small? So why you ain't managing what I got going on? That's a crazy thing of the way. I didn't know you was streaming, man. Streaming hard and I'm winning right now.

I didn't know you were streaming. I need you. I had no. I didn't even go hold you. Big time. Unk. You were forced in this world. Next up.

You were forced in that streaming world and guess what? You have- No, I tell people this all the time. Like, this is how crazy the camera is. People that knew who I was knew who I was in the game. Right. But the social media shit, it then sparked until somebody record me knocking stitches out. You're right.

I saw that. Right. Now, everybody who knew me, knew me, but I'm in jail. When they take me to the county jail the next day, they got like a little dog-catcher, a little wagon. I'm in the back of the motherfucker, and Charlemagne is syndicating from New York to Miami. And I hear don'tkey of the day, stitches.

Why the fuck what do you try to run up on game with Wack 100 standing on the car? Right, right, right, right. But I didn't know you. I remember, I didn't know this shit was all on the Internet. They tased me once, but I didn't know they tase me. So when I realized I was on the ground, I'm going survival mode.

Like on the yard. So I ain't knowing the things is in me. So when I went to get up, they thought I was high on something because they're pumping me, but I get up. So they hit me again. And the second time they hit me, I was cranking like a mother-f**.

But the first time, I didn't know, nigga, I'm just like, nigga, how do you get on the ground? Because when he tried the rush game, I knocked him out. But he had three of his homies with it. So in my head, we fit a lot. So when I was going at them, they thought I was going to stomp him.

And whenever somebody's like unconscious and out, yeah, yeah. So they hit me with the shit, so I didn't know. I had no idea, niggit tased me. I just know him on the ground. And I go and sobop, nigga, get up. Nigel, it's a war on the yard. And when I went to get up, the dude is tripping. Like, how in the fuck is this nigga getting up.

We're filling him up because psychologically, I want to be. And feeling this shit. Because you don't even know what you here with it. I didn't know. I didn't know my little. You come from that shit, made them fucking out on them y'all. You know what I'm saying? You know, you've been in a situation.

But we didn't know we were going to make it hot up. How do you feel about that because you be having these those situations? Especially you, your young guys, you always keep going through some shit. Being a young artist, how do you feel about all the bullshit that you're going through as far as the other artists from Long Beach and other cities that's coming for you? How do you feel about that? You got issues already on like rap? That's your real.

Yeah, we ain't, we ain't know, club. We ain't, we ain't missing the niggas, but. Are they tripping over the rap shit? It's a little bullshit going on behind the scene. He's viral right now. Are you going to the observatory on the fifth? That comes with it. But you know, the good thing about, like I said,

that neighborhood is one of the most disciplined neighborhoods that I know. It always been like that. So whatever he's dealing with, he'd be all right. Period. I'll leave you for that. That was the best answer ever. You know how to read the room. Definitely be all right.

And I see the mix. I see the Hussein. You know what I mean? I come from an era where I remember when that come together. You know what I'm saying? You know, whatever. You know, whatever he, I always tell people that shit. You know what I'm saying?

That neighborhood over there. Them niggas got the most niggas in shape. You know what I'm saying? And them niggis will still show up in drones. But they did show up and be laid back. They won't even tear nothing up unless that's where they got to be. You know what I'm saying? Right, right, right.

I met my nigga Big Fade. Me and Big Fade, we like, that's my brother. But we met on the battlefield, thundering against each other on my mama. That's how we met, thumping against each other. I'm over here. Faye's a way. And we fuck with you in front of y'clock. And I see Favreibble in here, knocking niggas out.

He's standing niggins up with the left. Two p's. We fucking them out with the right. Yeah, right. So. And every since that day, we've been, you know, we've been. tight. Ruckdaw?

Ron, I love me. Yeah. Wait, so did you all get into managing at the same time? You know Faye, Big Faye? I think the Faye went back. I think I got into it first because Big Fave went back to the Feds. You know, Fave ain't never did state time. Because Fave did Indian Blue.

Yeah. And I remember I was already, I was moving. I was helping him with Indian. Oh, okay. We used to put him on our rap shows how the West was won, crushed groove and all that shit. And Fave kept going back and forth to the Feds. Fave and did about 25 years in the Feds.

Yeah. in and out. You know what I'm saying? He's never been to a state facility. Never. Let me ask you this, because I heard this rumor, you know,

I mean, I don't want to put no ages out there because, you know, I've been around from the crown, but was it true that they was going to have you take over because this is what I was told. Like,

this is just on some young, inspiring artist type shit where they was like, all right, so we got whack one hundred, he's going to take all the crib rappers and then that's when you had blueface, you had Savi,

and then it was supposed to be big. You take all the blood, No. First of all, Big U, he didn't know nothing about the industry. When he came home in 2004, corrupt and came back to Def Roe. Okay. The Dev Roe, literally they know, was on his way out. Okay. That's when it went to Dull Row. I don't know if you remember. The Duhro. I remember that. I remember that. The premier artist was a Long Beach, nigga, Cricket Eye. Right, right, right, right, right.

Right. I was good for that. And, um, so when Big U came home, he didn't really know what he wanted to do, we was just fucking with him because of corrupt. Now, Now, fast forward, I was already managing Ray J the game and shit like that. And then Burma was like, well, let's get a division started over there. You could do it because you don't need, you got your own team. I have my own internal radio teams and purposes and all that shit, right? So I had a bunch of budgets. So quite naturally, I reach out to all the dumb moves.

Right. Right? The first week and the second week, my daughter sends me, Blueface, and I'm in Orlando with my daughter on some cheerlead shit, cheer-dead shit, and I'd never forget it. Six in the morning, I'm at the airport, and I see a little motherfucker squatting on the sign talking about, damn, because the spot getting hot. You can't trust the home girl because you're fucking with the eyes.

This niggis on top of the sign, bouncing. I'm like, this is a little motherfucker. Hold. This is a little motherfucker. I didn't know who he was or what. where he was from, but I seen his Instagram, so I get in his Instagram. Now, here's the thing. I go to tap it in with everybody.

Right. Every, everybody I'm looking at all they, you know, their stats are what they're doing, what they're not doing. So when I turn over, when I'm looking at the ones that I feel I want to fuck with, when I turn over their face card, I'm not going to deny the youngson because he had crib. Right, right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? Okay.

If I'm looking at and he's checking out, cool. So I got in contact with Blueface, right? Blueface pulls up. I get in contact with Savvy. It took Savy two, three times to pull up and good thing, me and Big Fab is tight. At the time, Savvy was signed to Warren G. Right.

Right. That's how I'm doing that. Savvy was signed to Warren G. Right? So I was able to hit Fave to hit Warren G to work that out. But I will tell you. you this. All the Crips

came to the meeting. Okay. All the bloods was like I got to talk to my homies. Okay. Now, I'm giving out bags at the time. At this point. I'm putting quarter millions

of niggas pockets. Did anybody ever send a name to you, Chuck from the east side, Long Beach, Jamar, Chuck Taylor? Uh-uh. I know what that is. No, I found... It used to be with luck.

He used to be... He was with Warren G. Before Savvy was there. I found Savvy on the thing that Sabby came and met me at the Fox Hills Mall and Lucille's. And he pulled up and he had the contract. Warren had him in. So I hit Fave. I said, Fave, listen.

Sabby said, that's Warren order. I said he don't want to work with Warren. Oh, wait, you talked him out of this contract? No, I had to talk him out of what I said. I said, Fave, he don't want to work with Warren. So either they can sit over there and get into it or tell Warren let me know what he gave him. I'm going to get that back an sum. And then we're going to give him an override on the albums we do.

Right. So Warren, because it was me, he knew it wasn't going to be no bullshit. This right before Faith had to go turn himself in to do that last couple of years. So we gave Warren back what he put in the savvy and some and then gave him an override on savvy next couple hours. The only way to do fair business. Yeah, yeah. Because now I'm really in his business. Yeah, yeah.

I'm in his business because that's his artist, right? So, but I'm knowing he's like, I don't want to, you know, for whatever reason. Right? But this little motherfucker is savvy And he'll tell you Every time I gave this nigga Something he'd go to jail the same day Yes, so your liability

I'll get a nigga Listen, I get a nigga His wire on Friday Saturday he's back in jail I paid attorneys to get him out He said whack, I need a car I buy him a car on Saturday A brand new bins

Sunday he's back in jail He didn't win airborne running from the pole I said nigga I can't get you Nothing nothing And it was crazy The last time he went to jail Blueface got signed after Savvy. So I'm telling enough you keep grinding, we're going to get Sabby up off the ground,

then we're going to double back. When Savvy went to jail in November, and the attorney, the PO was like, we ain't letting him go this time. We're going to do a little time. That's when I called Blueface said time to go. So it's kind of like Savvy going to jail said Blueface is timing up. And that's when you saw the Dr.iana remix with YG with Cardi B and the cold and all that shit.

That's when that's that was going to do that. I knew that. I knew that. I know you got these artists, right? And they're nice. They're booming. You know, you got some action. I got a proposition for you.

And it involves some money. I'm like, so. I got two songs. Right? You. Me. So songs you've done. I just got out.

I got two songs. I don't need your money. Listen to. Yeah. I let you go. I let you go. All shit trash. I don't need your money.

Send that you one of y'all. That's yours. Send that to one of your homie. No, look, look, look. You as my homie, it's good. No, I'm saying. You got to the manned time course, right? You got to remember, listen to me.

I got, I got all relationships over there on that side of town. So that don't get. Shout out of my nigga youngsters from six dudes. Diko eight, nine, all my niggas over there. My mom and little firecracker myself. Yeah. Put it in my head like. I didn't know.

Oh, that's great. I've been off my first time for a year. You're first time getting off paper. I ain't never been out of jail for longer than a year. years since 13 years on. I'm 33. And you know I love you because I'm always going to bring you where I'm at. How we hear the songs?

How do we get to the sounds though? Yeah, but tell the people how to get to it. No, but tell the people how to get to it. Yeah, tell the people how to get to the music. You hear it's unidentified. But here goes the thing outside of rap and what you do. Because see you can't, are you, are you, are you, are you? Okay, so are you, are you two hood?

Listen. Listen, okay, that might work. Ooh. You spark this interest. You're some melodic shit. You're some melodic shit. There he is right there. There's his Instagram right there.

There's his Instagram right there. I'll go follow him. What's your Instagram again? Identified John Doe. Let's go. Let's go. We're on our platforms, man. Do you pre.

What you do, nigga? You manage. You rap, you sing. You produce? I do a lot. I'm a real artist. You got his avocado toast. You know, kiddo curry?

I just recorded yesterday. You know what I? Maybe, maybe by face. He was in Chicago. Yeah. What do you make music or something? That's nephew. Come me.

We make music, though. 100. Crazy. I got an idea for this video. I wouldn't even do a, the first video out. I wouldn't even do like the traditional video. I would just take it. make some animations, the lie a lot, the shit you're saying.

I had a whole front of the screen. It'd be tears, what a heart popping out periodically on some of the punch lines. And people are paying attention to it. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, you got something. Make people wonder who the fuck you are. You're going to listen to this after where I can pay attention to it. Hold on.

Hold on, wait, wait. Y'all just. I got to get back to this sticker right here. We haven't got to have a conversation. So, so when you first. But when you was at, because you know AD, them, that's family. Yeah, yeah. So when you was over there, how did you, like, how did you see me over there?

Because I just saw the energy you did with Adam. So when I saw, when did I really catch when? I can't think of the exact time. But I knew that you was maneuvering, you know what I mean? And how you was putting yourself in position. And I was like, okay, this is my fucking everywhere. And he's got everybody and doing all this shit. But what I started thinking was like, this is not by accident.

You know what I mean? None of this shit is by accident. And the way that he's navigating this shit is like, who trained this nigga? Like, where did this, you know what I mean? Like, where did he get this from? Because I know it's not normal. And my thing, like I said earlier, like, people are looking at it like it's normal. And it's not like the, and the other thing that gave it, not gave it away,

but that like kind of really put the cherry on top, You said I sent the niggas to the You can't, oh it was about game And he was like He can't use these three platforms Can't use Vlad Act and No Jumper Those is mine

I was like who else can say that Not many people You know what I mean And it was like Oh It's smart You know what I mean Like it's a way to be smart

It's a way to tackle It's a way to be hustle But it's Danza flaco Joe Button You know Bootleg I just, you know, it's, if you're going to go into something,

you got to go into it and complete it. So my strong point in the music was I had an independent radio team. When COVID hit the radio, it didn't matter. Not to say it don't matter, but it phased out, I seen the takeover of this shit. And you're single-handedly watching the takeover of the streaming shit. That's what I'm talking about. And I saw the, I saw the pivots.

I'm like, wait, hold the fuck up. Like, wait, no, this is crazy. You know what I mean? Like, to me it's crazy because I get to look at it from the outside. I'm not in previous relationships with nobody and know people and know that. I'm just me being a cool-ass dude,

just a dad, a husband, whatever. And I'm watching, I'm like, nah, this is something. And people ain't taking note of it. No. It's like, I also want to ask, like, when you went to back on fig the other day, when you're going, Two places, and it don't have to just single out back on fig,

but when you're going places, what are your intentions? And how do you discern what your movement is going to be? Well, the number one responsibility I have to myself when I go into them situations is, A, make it unique, B, I have to fill in and transition when the room isn't, whether they know I'm doing it or not. because if it goes dry and whack 100s on the show, it's going to be a reflection on me.

Copy. So all of them, all of them hit me once I let you, AD and all of them. Yeah. And they was like, whack, your energy,

whenever you come, because they can't prepare for me. Yeah. They just got to just let this shit go where it's going to go. You know what I'm saying? And I don't know. It's like a,

the reason why it's easy because I'm not trying to do it. I'm just being me. But it's, but the, old part is, and this is not to do no ageism shit, it's like at your age you're still running circles around

young cats, younger cats and which some would say this is a young cat's game. You know what I mean? But you have found a lane that only you are feeling. Listen, within anything you do

like when we look at boxing, right? It's a lot of great boxing, but it's only one Mike Tyson. and even though Floyd is undefeated is our undefeated guy when people still talk about memorable moments you reflect to Mike Tyson even though he used to piss us off with 30 second fights

right? So I think is when you make a impact I don't be trying to I just be being like I never sit and say I'm going to do this say this say this Right? I just knew you was a guy

You came to the building Oh, let's get to that I knew you came from Back on Figging His Boys Worldwide Pun, from Punn Ace Boys World Wide, yeah Now, when I met

Pwn, Pung was managing all the producers Yeah, League of Stars We used to argue all the time over the percentages of the contract Right So now I'm wondering But he speaks highly of you No, that's bro

That's bro, that's bro. I'm wondering How the hell he'd get over here? I'm like, okay, Okay, these Rio's dude. Then I see you, and you was like, man, it seemed like, whack is the problem of the build.

So that was, that was, I liked that I did that because it, because what I'm doing is, what I was doing is trying to put him in position to have to talk. You know what I mean? Like, I want you to have to talk to it because I want to see.

That's what they all say. No, but I want to see if he understands what's happening. Like, because, because what I'm, in my head, you've outmaneuvered everybody. Well, I don't know. It's maneuvering.

I think I'm in my own lane. Yeah, because they can't deal with the shit. And they're not looking at it the right way. You know what I mean? Like it's like the opportunities that are there, they don't see the opportunities. But a lot of people that's here, they also stuck in the box.

See, we can come in here and be talking about the topic and I call the motherfucker who we're talking about. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So you got to remember nobody here has my history and my reach. Oh, just. the way I have it. You know what I'm saying?

They don't have my reach until this shit the way I have it, right? Even Adam, Adam's been around 10, 11 years. He knows the people he knows, but it's some shit that where he just wasn't around for him

or he just don't know to me. No other motherfucker or he don't just know him personally. So with me, it's kind of like I could debate you a little different because I started getting technical about shit. You get what I'm saying now? And then you got to remember

I got this whole other world called Clubhouse. That's what I'm unfamiliar with Right? Yeah, yeah. I got a whole other regime over there That scares the shit out of people And that shit's been open 24 hours of day,

seven days a week For the last four and a half years That was shut down So it's a whole team over there And it's just cutthroat at that point Like when you see in the clubhouse That's the cutthroat right? Like that's like when

Clubhouse is made up of people across the globe attorneys crazy mother Texas mother all kind of different type of people right and it's like an internal team

and my wife along with other people like Dreis and other people we got like we got a security unit my man Beas Beas is a very disrespectful guy right so he got certain people under him to where if I go to a

room and I'm debating with somebody and a muff they got a chat down there so we got a whole other chat squad. They just battle niggas in the chat, but beast them will come on stage. And then I got a whole another team that'll find you. So if you get to, like, popping up off the mouth, we

scare him a little bit. Like, I, I, he popping off the mouth. My team would get him. They're researching, find out everything. About 12 minutes later, it'll be a knock at the door. I'm like, bro, go on or answer the door. What? It's a knock at your door. You don't hear? Uh, nigga, you just, you just heard that shit. I said, all right,

go ahead. He opened it. I'm like, don't worry about the cost of the pizza. I already paid. for it. I said, but look, so watch your mouth, nigger. Could have been somebody else. So now, niggas is like, hold on, what just happened? Yeah. He just literally found this, nigga. So it's a whole other world over there that's watching everything that I do.

Then on top of that, I have successfully created what Floyd created for itself in boxing. Why is Floyd Mayweather so big? Why did he had the most numbers? What was his technique? He created hate for people to hate him. And the one, the one, the one,

and hating him the most were who? Mexicans. And then he used to always fight around what date? Cinco de Mayo. And he would come out in what? And fucking cost the single de mile. So did the Mexicans tune into support or in hopes that he lost? That he lost.

So his hate is what made him big. Right. So I got 50 motherfuckers a day who hate my guts for no reason. And you got me in an algorithm and I don't never put content up. I don't put content. I don't, every month every three, four months I go play on my youth. Other than that,

I don't put nothing up. They do it for me. So you've created the love, hate. You know what I mean? Like the hate whether it's good or bad. You've created a whole ecosystem

of where you ain't got to do shit. I pulled up my Google. This shit, my neighbor had been hit over 15 million times. So when the people want to do business, that's what they check. So even Max B was just saying,

oh, we're whack at yeah come through we're at like I said I lied max up and he ain't know it I knew he was going up there

and I knew I knew I gave certain questions you know to ask and I knew he was going to lie you know he just didn't think

that I'm going to go back up there and I got all this paperwork and the recorders of him on the stand tell it you don't know I got that

so and that's another thing I come with this exposure shit yeah you know what I'm saying we expose so many people, the people, they tell me, well, whack you snitching on the snitches. So that's, it's the most clever shit.

I'm like, wait, what the fuck? Hold on. Like, because then you got, because I see, motherfuckers is mad. I be mad. And I see you, like, entertaining it, but you're not mad. You just like, motherfucker, like, whatever. I'm going to go back and forth, like the lush shit. It was just like, I'm just throwing this out there.

Now, I'm going to tell you what you're going to because you were thinking. You said, wow. Jack got this dick. Now, what Lush did know is he set the stage. He said, bitch-ass, punk-ass, bust-ass, nigger. And when I see you, if you touch me, I'm going to sue you and call the police. So now he set the stage, well, okay, we can't get content like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So now what I'm going to do is I put the team to work, the exposers with the work, clubhouse team with the work. And they said, whack, one of your business partners owns the building. Bullshit. And they're like, yeah, you had a minute here one day on one of our business. business conversation. So I called him. I said, hey, he's like, yeah.

I said, okay, check this. They said, yeah, he's there. I said, I give me a contact. So now I'm fucking with Lush. I'm telling Lush. In 30 minutes, they're going to give you a write-up for using your phone, and they're going to move you across the street to room five. And he's responded, oh, fuck you just talking.

30 minutes later, he's so f***ed up in the head. He goes on his Instagram, me like, like, yeah, I just got moved. But in his head, he's trying to make it look like. like it's no big deal. Right. When I'm knowing, he's wondering how to eat, how do you know? So the most shitty talk, I just kept putting up the same clip. Because he wants me to threaten him.

Yeah. I see his game, right? Yeah. So I'm going to just put up the same clip. So then I fed him some bad information. I had somebody on the hunter's side getting his DM, yo, this one of whack houses in Vegas, put this shit up. He's going to go crazy.

So what do he do? He put it up. So then I said, I text Lush. I said, Lush, I'd be wrong. If I send some dudes over here to kick that, And I'm going based upon you told the world that's where I live and I've never had nothing to do. I'm fucking with his name. Why?

Because my war with you now is to keep you so out of focus that you never rehabilitate. Yeah, and that's what I figured out. I was like, this dude is so diabolical. He got this motherfuckin' focused on him. And I was like, you saw when I said, dude, you are, you went to another addiction. You addicted to going in his beef. You left the drugs. and now you're addicted here.

And he's now focused on this. And you knew it. And you knew it. And you knew it. And now I was like, that's another thing. Because I'm paying. I was like, dude, this motherfucker is diabolical. But he's, I'm going to fuck your whole two weeks up.

That's it. Because he's sponsored over there. He's not paying. He's just, he got a sponsor. So he's going to be limited. So the other day when he was like, y'all, man, I think I'm a lead. That's because he had just got his second write up. Oh, really?

Yeah, he got a second write up. I know he got a second write up because I told him to write him up. Go fucking with him. I'm going to show you on my phone. I'm going to show you right now. They're going to tell you. Wacky just got a second right up. God, dog.

Yeah. See, because Buc is playing checkers. Yeah. Look, look, this Saturday. Look, read it. Let's breathe it to you. Look, you're watching it. I'm playing Woody from over here.

You know, I've been watching the Godfather as I was like 9, 10 years old. Like, they just said, we don't, we could, we want to do more, but. We, I'm, so then I text him and say, you just got your second right up. I'm, I'm, I'm a way to give you the third one because that gets you out of there. I said, I'm going to let you know and I'm going to get you back to McCartre Park. So what he's doing, what he does, what I want him to do. Yeah, he goes in his day. Yeah, rocks a bitch and this.

So what he's not doing is reading his shit and getting his focus and getting clean. So what triggered you to, to. be to feel this way about him though. Like, because that's some, that's some kind of fucked up shit. That's like nephew. Every time I see nephew, every time I see nephew, he's the same towards me. Okay. I see Lushy's the same towards me.

And all of a sudden, the nigger just started talking crazy. Like, this is a harmless guy. So was Jay Hood correct when we was, when we were saying that you had got the clip, the clip was out of context? No, when I got the clip, I called in. I said, look, bro. And there's, I can't, I can't wait until that trial happened. Because I'm going to sit back and laugh at everybody because I'm telling the thing.

It's like, hey, bro, me and Big, you stop talking 2020. Literally, what no more communicate? His investigations are 2021, 2025, because everybody's like, you niggas were so close. How you ain't in the shit? Well, nigger, we wasn't even dealing with each other. So I don't know what the fucking nigger doing. You know, that's a few people in my life where I don't deal with like that, right? So when Lutz said what he said

And I know you sit there and say Lush, you really just said, Digger, Munchy said he passed a bottle to a nigga that killed the nigga on an unsolved murder every week. Nigga, I told you what I did. Wack went and did that. That's what Wack did.

But you didn't even pursue. He weighed back there. He don't know what the conversation was. But what he doesn't realize is when it comes out and he doesn't and get that when I've seen that they put hands on Future, I've never known Future to be touched ever in my life, not out here. I've never seen it.

So I knew right then and there that that's one of his homeboys telling them this shit of fabricating it and then kind of find out. I get a call. They're like, whack, you didn't know the week before they really touched him at the SLS. Because when Future looked over and took off, like, kind of running, it kind of shocked me because I didn't know Future. Okay. I knew who he was.

We had no dealings or no nothing. So now it makes sense because I guess a week or 10 days prior to that, he just get knocked out by one of the Cotees that's own dude's case. So his running wasn't about me. It was about him, but I'm oblivious. And like, like, whack, we know you don't know about this shit. And we know the person that told him this had to been there when the knocking out happened. Because I was like, bro, I don't know nothing about that.

So lush, it ain't really his fault because back then he wasn't part of that world. And even today, he's not part of that world. And when people are reading that really ain't really did no time, I don't understand what they read, they jump to all kind of conclusions. But with him, I think the dude, what's the Mexican dude he been going at? Comparator. Comparator said it best. You went a few places you can't come back from.

and I don't know if he was high or what but he went a few places and he knows that but he went there but did you entrap that motherfucker did you because he was going in on him did you did you like or did you want to go there? I called in addressing

I called in addressing when I called in and you know it's been two three occasions man lus do shit I didn't save lus around here bro he literally told 30 Crips, nigger, Adam wife called the police on him. He asked Adam that. Adam said no. Adam tried to agree with him.

Listen, I don't know because that's why Adam suspended him. This is a fact. On our show when I said it, he said, yeah, he did do that shit. He told him little Travis Ford that shit from Main Street. Travis the one called me. He told me, bro, what's up? I said, what? I said, man, that lady wasn't there.

Oh, with the birthday cake. Yeah, I said, that lady wasn't even there. He said, Lush, telling her she the one called the police on those of them. I said, bro, she wasn't even there. When I called Lush, he was like, whack, I was just nervous. I just said, he can't say that, though, bro. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

You know, I think Lush is at a point of his life to where he don't know, you know, his girl, you know, then left him. He's spiraling out. And he's doing, like, I didn't know, like, four or five drugs at the, you know, same time. So he ain't the same mind, but, you know, he didn't say some shit about a couple people to where I'm just going to sit back and watch the shit. I said, I said, dude, you said some shit where it's not him that, it's more people that's going to be upset about that. His family members, it's like, what do you? Yeah, I ain't got it. You did that.

And the dangerous part is, Lush ain't like that to where when he out, he liked that. So he's going to be somewhere ain't paying the no attention. And one of them, somebody's family members or homies from their neighborhood, go see. And that's how it happened. You know what I'm saying? He didn't went, he didn't went past beyond being able to apologize for something. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

So, and I can't take him serious because, bro, Lush is a harmless kitten. No disrespect. Like, I know this shit. So when he's popping it, I don't hear that. You know what I'm saying? I don't, like, nigga, I don't, I don't hear. What he wanted me to do was threaten him,

sending him some threatening shit and say some threatening shit. So then he'd go over here, file a little fake lawsuit that he knows he ain't going nowhere, but his content for him. So what I did was just kept putting up the clip of him. him getting slapped. Yeah. It's, but like, so. And he would get upset.

He's just doing the easy thing. Like, it's just like the easy, like, I'll just do this, do this. But I had brought it up to Adam because it was like so like, like you, you get along with people, you don't get along with people. And it seems like they slowly are exiting out the building. And that's what I was like looking. Who? Like, so I thought it was like a strategic, I thought it was a strategic play when you brought,

Long Beach up here, right? Like when... Long Beach. P. Nice, D-D-D. Oh, no. I brought D. Well, I brought D-D-B up here. You got to remember me and D-D-Dub is close, and he's over there part of the incredible...

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I brought D-D-Dub up here. There was no P-Nice at the time. Okay. And we brought D-D-D-W up here, part with him, got him in. He set him on the show with Brick and all that shit. So once I got him in, he was in.

So he was doing his own thing, and then they gave him his own show, which he created with his brother. Yeah. Right? Yeah. He brought his brother in, brought P. Nice. P. Nice got a dose of it and learned what he learned.

It was a good thing because he got his own podcast now. But I definitely opened the door. You know, I definitely opened the door for him. Right. And so I was just, my thought process, it was like, this dude is bringing in pieces. You know what I mean? That he thinks it's going to bubble and that also are allies. You know what I mean?

Well, you're bringing a piece. You would hope your peace will be your peace will be. I lie. Listen, man, if I can make a thousand motherfuckers filthy rich that means when I get old and can't walk, maybe a nigga might push me a block or two. I don't, I don't, I'm not a gatekeeper

where I'm locking doors. I'm opening them up for them. You get what I'm saying? So they know they can come to me. This is what I'm trying to do, this one. And if I can help, I'm a help. So if I bring a piece in, yeah, I'm going to bring, I'm not going to bring a hop in because I'm not conversating with you, but I'm going to bring them up

in and then get them in and get them situated, then I'm gonna get out their way. Notice I get out their way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'll let them do that. Don't do your thing. You got to plant that seed. I did my part.

You know what I'm saying? But you got to remember. That's why I tell people, the gang bang shit don't work with me. Right. Because it's like when we just called his man from East Coast, you can't call him saying, woo-de-woo-woo-woo. Man, this nigga from pop. Yeah, that's cool.

That's unc, though. Nigel, hold on. The aunt came over here, nigga. And, you know, when we called uncle, we needed, that nigga is going to tell you when I was looking at 27 years. and then Bloods was telling on me, he made sure the tell him went away and I'm home. That's what he's going to tell you.

You know what I'm saying? So it's kind of like, you know, certain areas is right. That's what it is because if you call me, I'm not going to ask you where you from based upon an issue. What's up? Who got you calling me? We're just trying to do. And if I can extend my hand, I'm going to extend my hand.

Yeah. And I'm going to keep moving. I hope next time I'll run into you, your assing bubbled up. Only thing I tell a nigga, the only thing you owe me is answer the phone. As to the phone, is there the value in like the Vlaz, like the platforms that you talked about that you brought up earlier? Are you doing those because it's profitable or valuable for other things going on? The friendship and the relationship is valuable. And then I'm able to show them that I'm valuable in other areas.

Okay. Like, Vlad came to the baby shower that R&B did for Blueface and the child, right? So Vlad gets this. They said, damn, white, this is a big, it's, how much is it? It's like a $60 million house. He said, come on, Vlad, let me take you and meet the people. So I'll tell you been there. We got the owner of Rich Carlton.

We got the owner of Lamborghini. We got my other guy. He buys a lot of industrial buildings. Like, Vlad, he's all my business partners. Vlad is one of your brothers. Vlad is one of your brothers. He's Jewish. So you must really fuck with Vlad.

To even bring him into that, to meet him and do that, you fuck him for real. Yeah, I f*** with Vlad. So me and Vlad beefed for 10 years. Oh. That's on the Internet. I didn't know that. Yeah, you remember when I had the, uh, I hit it first song?

Yeah. We had a Kim Kardashian looking like. Yeah. Vlad came to the show. I said, Vlad, don't put the shit out. You're going to blow the cover. She was looking like that was a catch. I get a call 1030.

That shit is up. The bitch is up. Oh, shit. I flipped out. It was on. Yeah. Talking like 2010. So niggas is still on some bullshit kind of lightweight, right?

So for 10 years or better, me and Vlad, it was a problem. Right? until we set out and hash it out. But, you know, since then, you know, we've set out, we did some business. I used to go over there. He used to have four-five security guards. Now, there ain't no security guard. He called and asked me if I could send some, right?

Yeah. I'm in the building with people, bro. You know what I'm saying? I'm in the building with people. That's my thing, is to build with people because that's where we fall short is we don't share the resources. So that's what, let's go to. So we, the connection on the streets is cold, right?

Like, you got your cold connections. But then the room that you bring Vlad into, these owners of these things, the difference between these organizations are the way that they structure they shit. Are we bringing that back to like our community like and saying like, hey, this is how we build. Motherf-Fle-It's like, we think that this shit that we're doing here is major. But what, let me tell you what's major. This is how you have to be. You have to be structured.

I'm going to be real. Okay. One thing I fought Martin Luther King for is dying at 39 or some shit that he died for desegregation and we turned around and segregated ourselves. So listen, I am definitely pro-black. Yeah. But I am American. I deal in the American way, meaning everybody.

I understand if I isolate myself and go back over here with just everybody, it look like me, there's going to be some niggins. that's jealous of me. Some niggas that might knock me down because of what I'm trying to do because everybody is saying, hey, he's trying to help us. So I deal with

within that way. Now, it just happened to be eight brothers. Yeah. But I'm not going to discriminate against my Asian partners and my Jewish partners. So whoever wants to come to the table is who I'm going to do the business with

or who I'm going to help. You know, I say that at a lot of tables. You want to, He watched me take Clavico, who was banned from the clubs in Miami, because he went in there and played a Nazi song with some crazy shit. Did he? And then within 48 hours, get him un-banned, sit him down with all the owners of the clubs, and get him a club, the first stream of a club in Miami.

And I got on the plane and left. Clav said, way, ain't no way, they ain't going to let me in there. I said, they're going to let you in there. I said, tomorrow you're going to get a visitor. He called me, said, hey, bro, them fucking dudes that banned me. The owners in front of my driveway. I said I sent him to you. Open the door.

Not only did you get him back unbanned, he got his own fucking club. That's the streaming club. That was the streaming club. So guess what? Now, let's just say, I'm sitting in a meeting. They're like, yeah, man, we want to do this, do this.

We got some crazy band deals. And if we can get a whole of guy like Clive or go, we got 10 million for him. Clive, what up? Guy got a bunch of brand deals. Could I discuss him? Go ahead, aunt. My phone book is crazy.

If I gave you my phone book, And you scroll through there, my phone book is nuts. People that people can't get to, they're going to pick up one call. And been building for years. Been building for years. Years and years. Years and years. Years and years.

I was somewhere, the dude was like, he said, hey, wrote, right, incredible diapers. I heard you say it on no jumpers. He said, man, I was in, fucking Nigeria, and I seen a billboard. I said, yeah, I'd do business with the government out there. He said, yeah. They kept saying Floyd Mayweather. because he's one of my business partners on diapers. You wouldn't know that.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's kind of like, this is just to keep me where I need to be so I can help youngsters like that. Right. Right? That doesn't hinder me from still doing...

Yeah. I have literally in this building, Adam doesn't know it, creep knowing it, because he know him, had diplomats from the embassy sitting right here, and you would never know it. Right? I didn't have, like, right he,

I said, man, I got to go to No Jumper. Oh, okay, yeah, man, we'll meet you up there. They come in, you know, they got the hoker shoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm exactly? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you were just saying, hey, let me haul at you, man, I'm trying to buy some shit, my credit is, okay, here, take this number of car,

I'm telling my car, they don't get your shit right. I'm out, right? You know what I'm saying? So it's kind of like, however you want to get to know me is how you're going to get to know me. If you go talk the viral way, them Long Beach niggas, they're going to tell you, hey, bro, you, they're going to tell you, I'm gonna tell you, hey, bro, one day I was on the phone with Wack. And Wack said, why you ain't done there with Snoop?

Oh, man, we don't really know Snoop. I'm like, y'all from Long Beach. Hold on. Let me call Snoop. Hey, Snoop, got his name. Viral Way. Let me send you something on them. Yeah, whack, y'all kind of fuck with him. You know, I said, you all need to get together.

I'm going to put you in a group text with Viro way. And he's going to tell you, Wack, put us in a group text with Snoop Dog and stamped in. And from there, they was in there with Snoop Dog. Shout out Viro Way. That's cold. He's his long Beach, Nick is. that I see some potential when me and Snoop got long, great relationship. He trusts my judgment.

And I'm hoping that plug leads to something. You see what I'm saying? So most things are going to be like, nah, man, fuck all that. I ain't going to put them niggas in position. No. Now guess what? I look up and viral way turns into the next great sensation and whack-kneed something. You facilitate that.

You building bridges. I got bridges everywhere, bro. I got bridges and places you would never imagine. So do you see, you man in certain countries. If you call me and said, whack, I'm going to Dubai and the motherfuckers is tripping over my ID.

I'm going to make one phone call and the diplomatic people and come over there and push you in the suite and sit a guard in the hallway for you. Why? Because I got business with them people. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

So it is, however you want to know me, if you want to troll, then that's what you're going to know. Yeah, yeah, exactly. If you want to know. I say, hey, whack, look, bro, I'm trying to, then you, however you want to know me is how you're going to know me. That's like playing at your competition's level. I meet you at your level.

The low-level gang bank shit, that's just juvenile hall, Y-A county jail character. Yeah. I don't give a fuck about it done of that. Yeah. I can care less about it. You know, people that know me to tell you that. But if you was like, yo, whack, I'm trying to this, I'm trying to this, I'm trying to that. Like, when I'm on kick or state, those phone calls.

Come from overseas. People they deal with here is one thing. All right, nephew, they're your ass out of trouble, man. Oh, y'all, you especially. All right. Hey, Dico got your... And, uh... You ever lose it, Yonksin from Six Duce?

Dico from May 9s, always know how to get to me. 24-7. I'm a pleasure. I'm on 30 and a few of them. Yeah. So, like, like, like, like, like, like. Like with you. I'm curious about.

All right, man. Have a good one, brother. When I seen you come back, when you come here, I said, okay, you're getting in front of the crowd. Yeah. So I'm watching you. And I've seen a few people trying to do what you do, like Ricky, mooch man, that's trying to use this. And then only one person that's been successful, I'm getting big at it.

Yeah. Flacco. Yeah. Right? So I'm like, okay, he came from over there. I seen the guy that shit is set up. And then this. So it makes sense. So now it was kind of like, okay, what's his moose? He was, what making a nigga curious about you, they don't know what you are.

Yeah. They're like, okay, this motherfucker. You run with the brothers. Is he fucking Mexican? Is he Mexican? What, what is it? Yeah. Yeah. Love. Got you. So. I love you. Hey. Hey. I said, I just pause you by one at you down. Right? So the thing with you is, the thing with you is, what is it is, what is it What's you trying to accomplish? So I always tell people like, I know the power of intent and being moving with a purpose and a message, right? I could easily, when I came over here, easily been like, I'm going to go at T-Rail.

I'm going to go at this whole thing. I'm going to go viral and do this stuff. Or when people are talking about me, like, hit back. Oh, they talk about you? Like, you know, they do their little things. It's content kind of shit. They may be serious, maybe not. but it's not, that's not my lane.

My lane is to stay smooth and, and upper. Everything I said, they said, I was just trolling. No, I know. Yeah, they never said none of that. No, and so it's like, but just like other people say things or this and that. It's like, I'm not getting into that because this, me being this way is good for me and my family. You know what I mean? And if I don't go viral, that's cool because the words that I'm saying is making an impact.

If somebody can be like, how the hell Rios get up there? He ain't even beefing with nobody. He ain't got no shit going on. But I'm going to be real. Like, the viral shit is. One lane. Like, my wife, R&B, she said enough her thing

called Lovelessors. But that's like the relationship side of the Yeah. And that shit's big over there. Kevin Samuel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. And, you know, so the building always needs the total opposite. Yeah. And that's what, and I'm just saying. We had a female one. I don't know

what happened to her. She left Tam. Yeah. Tam was a total opposite. But she was a female, so maybe she didn't want to dive off into a lot of shit. Yeah. With you, it's a little tricky because the motherfucker look at you and if you're having a conversation

about something they think you don't know about don't know that you come from that. Right. You can have a conversation. Exactly. So I know already I'm like, okay, I know what I'm dealing with, right? But my thing is, okay,

what's your move? Are you still working your channel? I'm still on my channel. I'm still building. I even monetize a second channel, right? And so it's slowly climbing back up because I had to like break out of that shit and go to another lane

because what I was going to do was, I was going to split my channel. And, but just coming over here, not everybody was feeling this shit. You know what I mean? Like, and I had to. That's because they see no jumper. How do they see no jumper.

This motherfucker is a university free fall. So, you know, they say, don't trust whack. Well, I'm going to deal with you. You deal with me. Right.

Whatever happened. You know, there ain't got nothing. do with you. Right. Right. And you ultimately got to know what your direction is. Yeah. What's your, what you want to do? You know what I'm saying? And it's a whole other lane out there because you could be the clean lane from no jumper. And I wanted, and that's what I'm trying to do. And people say, oh, you don't want to go over there and spend it. Adam is this, Adam is that. And I'm like, dude, if I feel like I have a message for my people, you think I

don't feel like I got a message for day people, you know what I mean? And show if, oh, we complain. It ain't none but gangsters over there. nothing but gays is over there. And I know my background. I know where I come from. You know what I mean? Like, it's like I'm, that's my comfort zone.

You know what I mean? But I can also show y'all how to operate and be normal or cool and conversating and have communication. You ain't got to. You didn't notice that I never allowed to Adam and Waxhiel to turn into Gang Bang Central?

I noticed it. Never allowed it. He tried and never allowed it. But I'll make them continue to have. had the conversation about me on their gang bang podcast. That shit is fucking. Right.

It is what it is, man. It's kind of like, you know, it's kind of like knowing how to utilize your enemy for your own leverage. That's what it is. And they're going to stay mad because they try trying to figure me out. And you ain't going to figure me out because I'm only dealing with you with the character I want you to see. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like with you, it's going to always be a talk about conversation.

Yeah. Right? And the minute they're going to tell you, oh, you dick, rod, whack, and all this. This is their main thing. Yeah, yeah. I'd be like, what ain't mean? Me and the brother ain't got no fucking problem.

So why the fuck are we supposed to have a problem? Right. And I'm going to be real. I'm glad you did a thing with Doe Boy because looking at what Adam was trying to do with that Monday show, right? Mm-hmm. You're the description of what he wanted in the seat. Dobley probably know that.

You know what I'm saying? Because that was supposed to be the clean show. Okay. That was supposed to be the show that built a total different audience. Audience. It had nothing to do with our crazy shit. Yeah. But they, Doge Boy was all over the place and they kind of like was feeling the way they feeling about him.

So, you know, and I believe, you know, and Moose, Moose Man is great at what he does and he needed a side. He needs somebody to bounce some shit off. So, you know, looking at it, I'm like, that's probably what's going to end up happening. Because I've seen Adam speaking about what the future looks like. And I don't know, bro. Some shit ain't for everybody. I've seen rappers that I think are phenomenal, but the people just don't take to them.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's just, like, it's something not there. Something's missing. They might be good here, but just not good in this. It is in the name. You know what I mean? And see, again, with you, I think you can cross those different barriers.

You could be a dude like the Mexican podcast. I forget that all their names, like Hoodstocks and shit like that. Yeah. Like, they don't really like letting us over there, but they'll let you over there. You see what I'm saying? Because of the ambiguity. They don't, for whatever reason, they don't be it out of like that cool. I think the other dude

out the way haters were probably let me back over there he'd been texting me but when I'm saying is you're the guy from this building that can go sit in them seats yeah I've seen it

you know what I'm just paved your lane yeah you know what I've seen it and it's like just waiting for just I'm and I'm I'm established myself I was at SpaceX for six years I was building rockets

you know what I mean Oh shit yeah you've been down to Brownsville I was going to move I moved to Brownsville in Texas. Did you ever go that way? No, I left before that. I went to McGregor. I went to Florida.

I can show you shit in my phone that'll fuck you up. Dude, I remember when he was talking about building Brownsville. That's how long ago I was there, but I was the second stage. I'm going to show you some shit. Yeah, dude. Elon let me use my phone down there in ways you ain't supposed to. Dude. I've been down there.

I've been in the Rockets, under the Rockets on top and the whole of them. Me, him and Kanye kicked it down there for eight or nine hours. Went to the community he built and some crazy shit. He picked us up on his jet in Austin, Texas. This niggas, I didn't been on a lot of jets, and it just made me realize the jet I ain't been on. This is a different caliber of jet. The wingspan, the quietness, the speed of this month.

He sent the jack to get us. We come in there and land, and we kicked it with him. And he's like, whack, go ahead on, man. You turn your phone. Like, I got shit in my thing where I'm standing on top where they build the rockets, when you get me recording shit, you know what I'm saying? So. if you ever get in the conversation with him be like hey i got a uh a dude that's on the on the show

hosting co-hosting that snuck in SpaceX as a janitor and same day started working on the rocket they brought me in as a janitor and i lied and said hey they told me to come check in with you it's like with me it's like yeah damn and from that day because they were showing me room closets and shit i was like the like you y'all got me f***ed up and so i went right to the engines I was like, I need to be over here. And that same day, I was in the rocket. That's crazy, bro. Same day, and I was studying.

They was telling me to go get shit. I ain't never worked mechanical shit in my life. I was going to the bathroom and Googling shit what they was telling me to get. I would go to the bathroom, Google it, and then go get the shit and bring it in the rocket. That's what I'm saying. So, look, you got to get your channel going, man. You got to start working that channel every day, bro. So I'm going live in the morning.

No, I don't know flaco. You ever talk to flaco? No. I put you online with flaco. Flacco is a very interesting but valuable guy. He knows his game in a way. I know he knows it. I know he has understanding that shit because you can just see it.

He knows it. And he don't mind helping people. You got to get online with Flacco. He's going to tell you to do a few things that you're going to be like, yo, bro, are you meaning fucking telling me? You're like, yeah, this is what you do. Just for your channel. Just for your channel.

He don't see nobody as a threat. He's already doing this task. Yeah, he's killing it. He's going to, you know, he'll give you some direction, you know what I mean? So Flacco, Flaco doing six figures every month off YouTube. That shit's crazy. I want to ask, this is, I don't know how long we're going to be here, but I want to ask you one thing before, when,

because what I, like, how I'll be looking at it, I'm like, this dude is trying to get, not trying to, but the future is owning a station or, like, a broadcast. like what is the like the real large goal? Entertainment has changed. It went 50 different ways. The large right now, the real move is to create our system. Because until we create our system, we'll never know the real pay scale. Right?

And we got the power to create the system just like our people, We spend the most money on shit, but there's only so many of us, right? And when it comes to entertainment, I want to be in a situation where we have the system like Ghazi at Empire. Okay. Empire is ten times bigger than Def Roe records ever was. Why? Because Empire is powered by Empire.

Right. Def Roe was powered by Interscope. It's powered by UMG. Right. So guess what Gazi knows. He knows the real number to everything. thing. See what I'm saying? So can you imagine looking at YouTube

and we know YouTube pays us X amount per million, right? Yeah. We really don't know. No, what, YouTube it... Damn. And I'll never be able to do it the pro-black way, but I can

definitely get it done the American way. Which will benefit. The American way are my business partners who doesn't mind whack-heading that company and creating that company. And what is it you need? Yeah, we know the people.

Let's get it going for you. You know, I'm behind a lot. I got a car the other day, the death row building. Guy brought it, looking for some finance. He's doing some salon suites, like 150 of them. Yeah. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I come over there and seem.

Oh, shit, you're really doing this. Okay, what is it you need? I need this, this, this, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Hey, you went over here. Pull up. Come up. This what he wants, this, that's all he want. Yeah, whack paper it up.

We'll get him his money. And then, you know, you look at it and it's kind of like, you know what I'm saying? I'm the ultimate middleman. I will tell you that. But then I still do my own shit. Yeah. I'm a crazy middleman. You're like, oh, this is what you need.

You need this over here. You can be telling me something over here and I already had to lose wire over here. Right. It's just a call to connect. You made yourself invaluable. Like, you are, they can't do without. Let's say you say, we shut him down in the streets. I'm still on the 80th floor.

Right. We shut him down in California. I'm down in Miami because we got five clubs and some rooftops, a couple of yachts. We shut him down to the U.S. Well, I'm in the U.K. And now I'm building the ultimate manufacturing centers in DRC and Nigeria. We just got approved. We got our free trade zone certificate.

Are you getting your citizen? Is that citizenship? Dual. Are you getting your dual citizenship in Nigeria? I have a company where I'm partnering with the government now over there. I was going to ask you why Nigeria over Ghana, but because of the connections. I have a certificate in the free trade zone. Ooh.

Now, I know a lot of niggas talk about what's gangster. That's gangster. And so wait. A lot of people don't even understand what I just said. I do. And the way that that money. moves out there, how many times it has to change. Okay, you know how

when Trump says, oh, China, we're mad, putting tariffs on your shit. They won't be able to do that to me because I could just ship straight from there. I don't got a shit from there. Even though I still got them there in case I got to fill some orders, but I'm playing a different

type of game. And I think what confuses people is his ass of being in the sandbox, he'll be over there, he'd be up under the car in the trunk of the car, driving the car, who the fuck is he? I'm whoever it is you want me to be based upon how we deal with each other. That's how I was, until I started really looking. And I was like, oh, no, no, no, I was fucked up.

Like, no, no, it's really going to fuck them up if you, like, if they see you with a picture with Ibrahim, Treore, the Burkina Faso dude. Like, man, I got like a thousand questions. I can talk to you forever, man. No, listen, I kept pumping, and people that know me know, like, if you're an op, I'm not going to say your name. Yeah, it's no point. Well, if I fuck with you, I'm going to say your name.

So that's why I kept, what's up with that motherfucker, Rios? So when people catch on, they're like, okay, this niggas, because people are going to be in your DM, go Rios, their nigger Wax said. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I always know what I'm doing. Yeah. I never don't know what I'm doing.

what I'm doing. Right. And if you sit back, see, you would think first you was moving fast. You're like, oh, I'm in this motherfucker. Yeah. And then you're like, hold on, man. This nigga just made a wild U-turn.

What the fuck did that come from? And then you was like, wait. And then that's when you went in your thing. Yeah. When in my thing, I was like, oh, I've been looking at this shit wrong. But even when I came into the game of this streaming podcast shit,

I came in blind. You know what I mean? Like, not really. What happened? Why? So you left because of the night shit? So you were in porn and all y'all still cool? I'm,

I'm still cool with pun. I'm still cool with everybody. I can't say if everybody's necessarily cool with me. You know what I mean? But I give people grace to be upset. These dudes don't hold grudges like that. So I'm not mad. So I don't think they're mad.

And I don't. Yes, Adam, yeah. Yeah. They can't stand out of the motherfucker. But they don't hold grudges like that. I'm not, I'm not upset at all. And it's like, I want, and I always say this, I want us all to win. And if I had to do some shit to take some bullets to run through this brick wall,

but I'm bringing people with me. Now, listen, you, you listen. You're a different situation. That's why you're going to work. Look, just don't change up. Just be you. That's what I'm on.

Just be you. Going to wrap this shit up. Let's get out of here. Get out. Don't you wish you could just hit skip on the worst parts of your life? You know the same way you can skip an ad. I get it.

I'm Siaya and I live in Ice Cove. I've made some questionable decisions that didn't end up the way I planned. And today I'm still figuring it out. Somehow things usually get worse before they get better. Apparently, that's how I roll. So bundle up and come along for the bumpy ride. Don't miss the new season of North of North starting September 8th on CBC Gem.