No Jumper - OG Cuicide In The Building with Poetik Flakko

Episode Date: October 30, 2022

OG talks to Flakko about his life in LA, shenanigans he gets into since moving here, family, health and more! https://www.instagram.com/ogcuicide/ --- 00:00 Intro 0:55 - OG reacts to YK Osiris’ recent cry for help on social media 4:11 - Flakko was skeptical if YK Osiris’ outburst was genuine 8:23 - A lot of rappers’ su*cidal thoughts and m*ntal health problems because of girls 12:20 - OG gives YK Osiris advice for moving past his struggles 18:25 - Flakko asks OG if he knows who Kurt Cobain is. Importance of finding happiness outside of work 20:37 - Negative impact of phones and social media 26:40 - Flakko admits he has no life 28:45 - Flakko admits he doesn’t go outside anymore 30:10 - OG tries to get Flakko to admit that he’s depressed and scared to go outside 37:10 - OG explains how his show works and how he helps people 38:24 - Caller calls in for help from OG Cuicide on his relationship, anger, being a new father 48:00 - Flakko tells OG why he wants to change his number. OG presses Flakko for not answering questions 55:05 - OG explains how he connected with his artist, Dre Hill 56:02 - OG is determined to get Flakko out of the house. Scared after security at his building recognized him 1:00:25 - Flakko just learned about taxes 1:01:08 - Why Flakko is scared to go outside after his big controversy. Someone posted a video of Flakko in a Uber 1:05:45 - Flakko feels like he’s good now that he is licensed to carry 1:06:58 - OG corrects Flakko’s goofy comment about being happy that people believed he got arrested 1:12:30 - Flakko tries to convince OG he was skinny in 2019 1:16:55 - Flakko on dedicating his life to becoming a podcaster 1:19:20 - Flakko says he wants to do comedy, OG says Flakko’s joke is dry AF 1:21:08 - What would OG do if he got slapped like Chris Rock 1:23:06 - OG’s goal is to be the face of “Never give up.” Advice on how to help yourself 1:37:15 - Flakko reveals that his cousin k___ her children 1:48:15 - Flakko is tired of his cousins asking him for money 1:50:30 - OG on how he deals with people around him feeling entitled 1:52:45 - How people started coming out of the woodwork after he started 'OG Cuicide in the Building --- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's good, everybody? Want to welcome everybody, man, to the third episode of OG suicide in the building. And my co-host today, it's my folks, floco. What's good, man? I'm proud of, OG. I'm proud of you, man. Not, like, right before the camera started rolling, man, we were just talking about how, you know, well, like, we Ben knew you were, you know, like, full of advice,

full of, you know, just great, you know, just great energy, man. But, right, you know, but for now the audience, like, get to see, like, the free game that we've been getting. You know, and, you know, like, we kind of like take advantage of that, right? Right. Like, we, you know, I don't think we truly, I guess, and understand, right? You know, how rare, you know, and how lucky we are, right, to, like, have somebody who has, you know, like, 40, 50 plus years of, like, experience. Yes, yes.

Right? And, like, who can give us the game, you know? But we definitely got to utilize that more, man. I'm proud of you because you really changed it up, you know, a lot. Yeah. You know, a lot. But today I want to start, man, YK Osiris. Oh, let's get you.

You know, I want to start with. that because seeing that young dude, man, cry out for help like that and seeing how people attack him in a serious situation. You know, there was a lot of post out there. And I went on the post and pretty much kind of like adding him and was like, look, like, I would love to sit down with you and talk to you, you know, you're going to get through this. Whatever it is that you're going through, you're going to get through this. And then it made me also think, like, I don't know who he have around him. You know what I mean? If he got a bunch of yes man

around him or who he have around him that should have embraced him, that way it wouldn't have never went to social media like that. Obviously, I guess he felt like and I don't want to be hypothetically speaking, but obviously he must have felt he didn't have anyone he could actually talk

to or he would have picked that phone up and talk to him. But it's crazy because I went on a lot of the, you know, the post that I seen, even in no jumper posts, and I add him in the post, and it's just crazy how, you know, people was, oh, man, your name is OG suicide, man, you might make him want to kill itself. I don't know if that's going to be a good look for him, but then there was a lot of people

came on there that knew who I was and what I stood for. And a couple of cats, you know what I mean? A couple of them I didn't respond to because they didn't even have enough followers for me to even reply. Clouds. With clouds, you know, with no face. You know, that's like talking to the wall, expecting it to answer back. Yeah, but you're box and trolls.

No, so when I first seen that, the first thing that I grabbed my eye was when he said, yo, my baby mama told me I'm a nobody, my career ain't going nowhere, nobody F with me, I should just quit. And I'm like, yo, if you have a woman who's in the same house as you, who you live with, like putting those words of like just bad energy and negativity in your ears every day, that can break you. I mean, it can to a certain extent. allow it to? Like, what's going on that you're not, what's going on that's pretty much making her

say these things, you know, because you can't really just, you know, you can't really just pinpoint it. Like, definitely your girl, your wife, or whoever, they're supposed to support you 100%. And for her to be saying, oh, you're not going, your career's not going anywhere and, you know what I mean, you should just quit? What make her say that? What made her actually just sit there and come up with words. Are they beefing or they separating? But my whole thing is people attack this dude, man, and this dude crying

for help. When you say the words, I want to kill myself, come on, man. That's not a game. That means something, you know? And then when you got the trolls, you got, oh, man, you're soft, you weak. Oh, what's wrong? Draykin, little baby, ain't cool with you no more.

Now you want to kill yourself. And it makes me say, like, this industry, this industry, this industry, loved one, if it will chew you up and spit you out. Yeah, I agree. He's still young.

So he haven't been through enough in this industry yet to really realize how this thing will, it'll make you or break you. Yeah, man. Yeah, so for him now, you know, I was one of those people who was kind of skeptical, right?

Right? Because when you see these dudes, like, do things, you know, like it usually comes around when there's songs about to drop, album's about a drop and it comes off as if, you know, like this is some market employee, but, you know, if I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt, yes, I would just say, man, listen, man, like, what that strikes me as is he don't have a purpose,

sorry, and he hasn't figured out what his purpose is yet, right? Meaning, like, and he's living life and just going through the motion of, yo, I'm a rapper, I'm, you know, just trying to get through the day. And he hasn't figured out, you know, yo, like in 50, 60, 70 years. when I pass away when I die, what do I want my legacy to be? Right? So, like, once you truly figure out, damn, yo, I got a newborn now, this is what I want to accomplish to leave for her,

or this is what I want, you know, in 50, 60 years, right? Like, you know, when she, like, does her, her, her, um, Googles or Bing or go, you know, into, like, the history book. If that exists in 60 years. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. This is what I want her to see that I've accomplished. but she truly hasn't really

figured that out yet. And if you don't figure it out, it kind of gets hard, like, hard to live, right? Because, like, it kind of feels like you're going through it just day by day without really knowing what your purpose is, you know?

But he's still young. Yeah, very young. So, I mean, you normally don't actually know what you actually would consider your legacy that you want to leave, when you leave here,

until you really hit that 40-plus bracket. He's still young. He's still finding it still, himself. You know, he's still, trying to pretty much figure it out. And it's all about, too, man, who you have around you.

You know, your support is really come from a lot of the people that you have around you. And if you don't have that support around you, then this is what, you know, the results is going to be. Like I said earlier, it's like, it makes me ask, you know, I would love to ask him, like, you know, who is he surrounded with? Like, do you have a bunch of yes, yes, man, around you? Or do you really have anybody around you you feel like in a situation, like who can I talk to? Like you, for instance, like if you was going through it and you like, dang man, I'm not feeling it.

Like stress is on you. You depress. You got to always have somebody you know that you could call at any given time that you can speak to him in that situation. I feel like he don't have that. That's the reason he went to social media. Yep. He had to. He said that, yeah.

Well, I didn't see that. Ah, okay. I didn't see that. I'm going off what, you know, what I see. Just like when I went through my situation of, you know, wanting to leave here, you know, I was well respected in the hood, in the streets. And for me to come at my OGs and be like, man, I'm thinking about killing myself. It was like, it was one of them things to where it's like, I don't want to approach them and tell them that. Yeah, right.

So, like, speaking on that, I, like, heard, though, if you, like, tell them that, right? Right, you know, they were, like, DP you, right? Who told you that? Well, whoever told you that? No. If you tell somebody you want to kill yourself,

they're not going to DP you. Yeah. They're supposed to embrace you. Why would they DP you? Yeah. That's going to really make you want to kill yourself afterwards. Like, man, I just tried to cry out for help and express myself.

and I got DP No, that's not how it worked Love one Yeah, yeah, yeah No, here, right? So, like, I definitely get that, right? And like, you know, like, I would just kind of confuse us like

because Ray J was really going through it. Just Ray J as well, going through it, family. Right, you feel me? And like, and he came in line and said, you know, like he know he's not supposed to do that and if he come back to the hood, you feel me, you know, like just based on where he's from, they owe him that, right?

But yeah, it's from Carson. Yeah, man, bro. But Ray J too, man. Yo, and like, I'm seeing like a trend now, right? It's like, it's like when they're dealing with like female issues, that's where a lot of trauma is coming from, right? Part of it. Yeah.

It's females tearing them down, bro. Like, how do they get past that though? Like, isn't it just like just getting rid of the female? Like, how do you make a female, you know, you know, like stop tearing you down? I mean, my thing is why would, if you got a female that's supposed to, to be in your corner, she's supposed to be the one that help you get up. Yeah. When you fall down. And if you don't have that and you don't have

somebody really 1,000% in your corner, it don't matter. Your baby mama or a female that you've been with, why are you still with her? If she's tearing you down, what's the purpose of your... What do y'all have? Where is the relationship? Yeah. You can tear yourself down. So you don't need nobody tearing you down. Dealing with

just being in the industry and dealing with a lot of fakeness that go on in this music industry. You know, it tears people down. You know, they put so much into, and so much trust into certain people, then people would, man, that turned on you fast, family.

I'm telling you, right? Because like, like, you know, especially when it comes to, like, as an artist. Yes. Right? Like, everybody, because, yo, like, Waco Osiris, he was deaf, bro. He was hot bubbling. You know, I believe in like 2018, right? Yes.

Right with that. I'll give you the world, baby girl. Yeah. Class-it. He was hot. And then now, whereas, like, he has pretty much no new music out, you know, he's cold, he's not doing no shows. Even academics act like, damn, bro, like, how is he making money?

Because he's not doing no shows. He has no, right? So, like. But that don't mean the royalty stop. Yes, that's true. You know what I mean? That don't mean he's still streaming. You know, it don't matter.

Doing features. You don't know what he's doing behind the scene. He can still be doing features, you know, and getting paid from that. Or the streams. He's still doing numbers. I'm sure he's still doing numbers. But you got to keep, you got to stay consistent. You definitely got to keep putting stuff out.

Because once you put a record out and that record is hot and it makes you, you've got to have a record better than that one to follow up with. And if that follow up cracks the ceiling open, then you definitely got to have that third one. take you to the moon. Yeah, man, like he's having a tough time because he started off, I guess, in the game as this, like, super suave sex symbol that all the women love. And then as he, I guess, got older. I like that song, man. What's that called? Oh, that's never give up by me. Oh, man, the not been facts, right? You know, but like when, when he got older, though, you know,

he kind of, like, took on, like, the court gesture role, right? Where, like, a bunch of these, like, rappers who were bigger to him will, like, bring him, you know, like, on their IG Live or in their crib and like he would just be like a core gesture for them right? Like for example Drake Drake brought him in his crib and Drake put him on like IG Live and told him sing right

so when I see that like those like you know you know like those bonds and you know like it don't seem like Is that a bond? Is that a true friend or is that you being a puppet? It's being a big puppet. I'm just saying.

Huge puppet. Yeah. You're right? Yeah. Do he? him and Drake have any music out? No. Okay. Exactly my point, right? So, like, it kind of feels like he's being, I guess, used and passed around, and now Drake and a little baby don't mess with him anymore. After they pretty much embarrass him and tarnish his name, you know? And he realized that. And, like I said, he put so much, you put so much trust into people, man.

And sometime when you let down by certain people, it hurts. You know, it really bothers you You know, it irritates, man Like bad acne You know, so definitely Wait, here right So, okay, so then how do he like rebuild that then So like, is it just therapy?

Do you, I guess, like Talk to other people? Like how do he, I guess, like Rebuild back that Like self-esteem and that Will to keep on pushing? Your surrounding He needs that right person That sits him down and be like, look

you know, point A, point B, one, two, three, four, five, six. This is what you need to focus on. This is what you need to be doing to get back. Just like a fighter. You know, a fighter boxes, and then, you know, he don't box for years. And then all of a sudden, okay, this boxer's out of retirement. He got to go harder in training than he did when he actually was a boxer. You got to go double time harder because depression is real.

And I respect, you know, Osiris, I respect what he did, you know, getting on social media, I just want to apologize to everybody. You know, that's called damage control. That's what a PR come in. And I respect what he did. But I know technically deep down inside, man, it still hurt. And I would definitely love to bring him on the show and sit down with him and, you know, and have a 101 with him, man.

Because I understand depression, you know, I understand being stressed out. I know what it feel like. When he said the words, I want to kill myself, man. That pierced. Yeah, it pierced. I know those words. I've came close to them worse. And even more than close, because I actually put a gun to my head and squeezed.

So I understand him. A lot of people laugh at it and like, why y'all laughing? Like, in the world now, man, it's like they will love you tomorrow. Because in 2018, everybody loved him. Oh, he's the shit. Oh, we love you. He's amazing. And that's one up.

Now you take a fall and everybody's kicking dirt in your face. You know, even the people around you, not even supporting you. I guess because maybe they're not getting the money that they used to get. Yeah. You know, so that, but all that stress

falls back on him. Yeah, of course. It don't fall back on, it don't fall on anyone else. It fall on him. Okay, over here is, you know, it's bad. I can't go over here. They treat me this way.

My own baby, is saying harsh things that's really demolishing me. So, you know, he definitely got to make sure he get it together mentally first, physically, and surround yourself around people, man, that's going to uplift you. Yeah. Hey, right, so question for you, you know, so let's say if he was, let's say, like, a pop star, or let's say rock, right? Yeah.

And he made rock music and, like, his audience was, let's say, predominantly white. do you feel like it would have been like treated as something like more serious and people would have been more supportive because I feel like in the black community like we don't take like certain things that seriously right like in terms of like depression

and suicide like you know we kind of laugh right right we laugh at oh you weak you weak you're soft and everybody you know got something negative to say into a stem of them shoes just like when I was on those posts and I was you know adding little bro like really he trying to talk to him seriously. You know, like, I'm reading the comments

and I'm reading what people are saying, oh, you're weak, you're mad, oh, Drake them kick you to the curb. Little baby kicked you to the curb. Now you want to kill yourself. No, that's not what you do. You know what I mean? And people were saying things like,

oh, I don't know, man, your name is this, man. It might not be a good look, you know, to talk to him. I'm the best look. I'm one of the best persons that could sit him down because I understand that. I know what he's going through.

I've been in them shoes. And like I said, a lot of people came on there and was like, man, OG, know what he's talking about? And then a lot of people talked about the show that seen the first episode. It was like, man, what you doing? It made me look at life different, you know? And that was one thing I also had said on there. It was like a lot of y'all is saying bad things about this young bro,

about a little bro. But just the thing, picture yourself in them shoes. y'all laughing and trolling, but you would never get it until one day it can be you in the shoes that he's in and want to kill yourself and you're going to be happy if somebody laugh at you.

You see, like people don't have, you know, like people don't have like the, I guess, sympathy for rich people, right? Like they feel as if like once you... I mean, not even rich people. Sympathy for this people. It's not even a financial thing because you have millionaires

that have committed suicide. So we can't even put a number on it, but there's sympathy for people. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. But they feel like, you know, so like some people, I guess have less sympathy for, like, the rich, right? Because they feel as if, yo, like, he's a millionaire. Why is he crying for it? But they don't.

Money don't make you happy. Exactly. Money don't make you happy, loved one. You know what I mean? If you depend on money to make you happy, then when the money is gone, where it's life. Mm-hmm. You know? You got to be happy with or without the money.

That's very important. Exactly. But a lot of people think that, oh, man, you're rich, man. You can go buy a new Bugatti, man, and smile. Like, no, that's not what's making them happy, man. Even though you got money, you still got real life at the end of the day. Real life. That's outside of the big screen where people see you all.

This is a celebrity. You this, you that. But at home, you know what I mean? Like just for instance, at home, like, people have real life in their households. Millionaires, they argue, you know, with their wives. They go through things. Stress build up. So money definitely is not the fixer.

Yo, like, and it's really crucial, man, that you find, like, you find happiness first. So do you know who at Kirk Cobain is? Come on. Of course. Yeah, right. Yo, listen. And his story, man, was kind of crazy because. I think he said something like, I think he said something like, imagine, right?

You're, you know, like you started working towards something at 13 years old. Yes. And you put your blood, sweat, and tears into it. You gave it your all. And then 13 years later, at the age of 26, you are successful, rich, and you've accomplished everything you sought out to accomplish. you have fans, money, and then you look in that mirror

and you are unhappy. And that's what led him to like take a long life, right? Because he's like, damn, bro, like, my dreams have came true. Like, everything I'm living my dream, but if my dream's not making me happy, then what's going to make me happy, you know? You got to find,

you have to find happiness other than financially. Yeah. You know, financially, yeah. Because it's like the more money you end up having, it's like the more responsibilities that you take on in life. Yeah. You know, as you gradually grow, you start, your life, you more indulge to wanting more things in life.

You know, okay, I got more money, so now let me go get a bigger house. You go from paying $2,000 a month to $6,000 a month. So the more money you start getting, the bigger to advance. You know, like millionaires, they go from, you know, small homes to, $200 million mansions, you know? And then you work in the corporate world. Skisgraper office, you know, things like that.

And then CO, and then something happened and everything crashed. And you go from here to here. Yeah. You know, everybody love you when you hear. Hands out. Definitely, everybody. They love you. But when you hear, it's like,

They look at you like, you're not the same no more. Wait, like, here, right? So, how do you find happiness, right? Because I feel like in this generation, like we have an issue with that, right? Because it's kind of like, you know, like we get up, you know, we are on our phones, right? Like, we play video games.

And our hobbies, like, consist of social media and video games, right? So we don't even, like, know how to find our happiness, right? Right? Like, we're just, like, focused on social media, you know, you know, like... The negativity that's, you know. on social media. Yeah, and did you know in some countries,

they don't even allow, they're not even allowed to watch a lot of the stuff that's presented to us in the States. Russia. You know, several countries. Yeah. They don't watch none of this.

Nothing that's going to corrupt their minds, you know? And these right here, a lot of these phones are raising the kids nowadays. And then when you take this from your child, there's a mental thing. They threw a tantrum

You got their phone They in their room They irritated They stressed out They depressed I can't Exactly Exactly

And this All of this stuff was technically really created Man It's low key Of way of control Because nobody talks anymore

Nobody communicates anymore Just like when you see people In public Nobody really You know Hey how you doing you know, anymore. You know, I spoke before about like how, you know, back in the days, like, everybody

used to go to Granny House, you know, on Sundays, you know, and family together and having fun and, you know, slap boxing and enjoying life. But when Granny Pass, all of that goes away, a lot of the family becomes enemies. You know, nobody's really close like they used to be. It's changed a lot. It's changed. And it's not getting better. No.

Yo, and like back to the control thing because even like I feel like that's why the government had to put like some regulations in on radio, right? Because they said if somebody hears the same song you know

and you know like and on their drive to work at work on their drive back at the grocery store eventually they'll just be like just just like brainwashed into liking a song

right so right so like they had to kind of like put like an end of payola it'll be like bro like if people can just pay you guys to play their songs then that would be you know you know like just after that right since it's like right but they change the name it's no longer it's no longer called paola yeah you know what I mean the new name is um um radio campaign you know it's not paola yeah well here's the campaign

and we're gonna do a commercial and we're gonna run your song in this commercial so it's yeah they've changed the name it still exists right they just reinvent it what they call it that was it. Right. So now if radio was that powerful, can you imagine what social media is, like, what the Instagram pages is doing, right? Like, for example, right, you know, you know, like there's

ads now, you know, where people can just like spam your feed with. Yeah. With anything they want. Yeah. Right. And then also, too, it's now, like, these companies now are now in cahoots with, like, the advertisers still where now, if your opinion goes against against, like, whatever they're preaching

is gone. Right. Yeah. They're going to shut you. Right. Right. Right. So now like we're in this eco chamber just hearing the exact same things they want us to hear. And I'll be real, man. And they push negativity too. Right. Because like here, right, here. Look. Right. So Facebook got sued recently because they said that the Facebook algorithm, right, again, the Facebook algorithms. Right. And they pushed the negative content because it's more engaging. Right. So I. I. I think Facebook got sued, right? Mm-hmm. Because Facebook knew about, like, this, like, plot to, like, I think, I think, like, a genocide plot. Mm-hmm. But they refused to take down the post scheduling those, like, genocide plot because the post were super engaged.

People liking it, man. Bro, listen, man, like, my only advice to anybody, bro, is get off your phones, man. You know, like... I mean, it's going to be hard, you know? I mean, like yourself. Man. You're a post-phenetic. Yo, man.

So imagine if they just, you know, I put it like this, imagine if all social media is just tomorrow, they just shut down. It's gone. Come on. Everybody's going to go crazy because people really depend on this, you know. A lot of people live their life through this. Question for you. So if they take away like social media tomorrow,

what would your hobbies be? I mean, I don't depend on social media. See, I grew up where our social media was outside. You know, that was our social media outside, you know, going, running around, hanging out, you know, with each other, and to the street lights came on. Then you had to get in. But, I mean, my life was still consistent of I got grandkids.

I got other things that I can do outside of social media that I do, you know, especially music, being in the studio, doing music. You know, you have to stay busy. Even though like when we were coming up early in the 80s and the 90s, early 80s, you know, early 90s before Internet existed, you know, we had to really get out there and grind for it. You know, and now it's just you push a button and, you know, you can reach the world. We couldn't. We had to physically go. And now if we had a show, we had to go get posters printed up.

And grind. We had to really get in these areas wherever the show was and put these posters. up everywhere, everywhere to get people to come to the show. Now you just make a digital flyer and you share it. You run ads on it. Yeah. It's easy. The game is easy now.

It's going now. No, right? So, like, the reason why I like ask that question is because if social media like goes away right now, I can't tell you like what my hobbies are. You don't? I can't tell you. You don't have no hobbies. So pretty much this is all you have.

So that means you're going to be depressed. Yeah, man. Yeah. Because, like, I make, like, my post and I make YouTube videos, and outside of that, like... You make, like, a thousand posts every day. Right, right. And, like, I watch Netflix sometimes, right? But, like, outside of that, man, like, what are my hobbies?

Like, I don't... So you mean to say, you don't have a life? Outside of my work, nah, man. You feel? I mean, you need to create one. I know. You need to work on that. Yeah, but go to the beach more, right?

It's crazy, right? Because social media has like brainwashed me so much or like brainwashed us so much. They're like, well, I don't speak French. Brainwash you. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, right. Right?

I can't even tell you like what's fun outside, like, like outside of my phone. Right? Like, hair, like, like, hey right. Right? Like, because, you know, think about it, man, like, what's fun outside of my phone? Like, what, like, what's there to do? I mean, come on, there's a lot you could do outside of your phone. Well, you said you're in the gym.

Yeah. But you're on your phone at the gym too, right? Yeah, man. See, come on, man. AirPods, man. You got to sit it down sometime, though. At some point, do you feel like the government will need to step in and, like, take away, you know, like these phones? I mean, you don't really need the government to do it.

Uh-huh. You know, parents can do it. But this is the thing. Like I said earlier in the conversation, if you take a phone from a child, then they develop. They have nothing no more. They're stressed. Yeah. You know, they stressed out.

You know, they're in their room. They're mad. They socking the walls. It's like, I mean, it's like pretty much almost like saying, man, that a lot of things that exist is sitting everyone up for failure. Yeah, man. I feel like the phones took away like the communities, right? Because, like, growing up, you know, we used to all, you know, come outside, right? And that's because everybody was outside.

So you used to go outside? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. So you don't go outside no more? No, man, like, who's outside? You just stay in the house? Yeah, I just be. People are outside. Like, the sun is up.

There's fresh air out there. There's the go for a walk, you know? There's no money out there, man. Okay. Right. No, no, right, but like, right, because I feel like, especially as a kid, right? Like, you're grandkids, right? So, like, do they, here, are there kids outside in their neighborhoods where they can play with them, like, outside?

Yeah, yeah, there's kids like neighbors. Yeah, right? Neighbors kids, yeah. And, like, how often, like, do they come outside? Man, pretty much every day. Oh, shit. You see, I, yo, right? And that's because, like, you were actually saying, listen.

Listen, give me this phone, go outside and actually play, right? Yeah, well, they parents do. Like, my daughter tell her kids that and my son and my son's baby mother tell their kids, like, you know, give me the phone, like, do something, you know, go outside. Let's go outside. Yeah. Yo, right? So what you need? So you need somebody to tell you to go outside?

Me. Nah, not, not, not, not. Not, right? But also, too, is like, and I feel like social media, right? And tell me, listen, and tell me if you think, think, like, this is true. Okay. I feel like when it comes to talking, like, to women and having game, I feel, I feel like the old heads, man, they got crazy game, right?

Like, our parents, like, for example, like, like, my dad got, like, got, like, more game than any one of us, right? Yeah. And why do you, like, feel that way, right? Like, like, for example, we got game, like, through, like, you feel me, you know? Like, through, like, IG, DMs, you feel me, right? See, you got, you got internet game. Yeah. in game. That ain't come natural. You know, that ain't natural game. So you see a, let's say,

man, you see a post and it has good wording and you take it and you're like, you know what, I'm going to use this. I'm straight theft. You know, but that's why you're in the house. Hey, you know what? Eventually it's going to bring stress on you, love one, because you barricaded in the house. Like, what's the reason though? Like, I just be working, man. Do you? Do you, you? You Do you, do we, be honest with me, do you ever, like, get depressed sometime from just always being in the house? Me? A little bit?

I'll be real, man. Like, I'm probably like, just like. That's a yes. That's a yes or no answer. Oh, no, no, no. Never. Nah. Okay, let's say, let's take your phone away.

Yeah, now I probably will be depressed because, like, I'll be bored, right? Yeah. Why you don't come out, though? Are you scared to be, like, this out and amongst, like, in the world where people are? Or you don't like people or you only like the job environment because you hear there's a limit amount of people that's in the work environment. And then once you leave here, you're like, I'm barricaded. How many locks you got on your door? Click, click, click, click, click, click.

No, three, three, three, three. 33 for the top to bottom. There's got to be a reason, though. Like, you don't come out. It's got to be a reason. Well, like, it's two reasons, right? One, like, I'm neutral, right? So, like.

Wait, you say you what neutral? No, no, no, no, no, like I'm new to L.A., right? Okay. So is it, it's a fear thing? No, like, here, well, it's like two things. One, like, all of, like, my L.A. friends, they're also content creators, too, right? So, like, we link up, it's based on, you know, yo. Content.

Yeah, right? Okay, so you don't have no outside. You never go to the club or nothing? Yo, clubs in this climate? No, man. Why not? It's dangerous in them clubs, man. How?

you're not affiliated with nothing. You're good. Yeah, man, but the clubs is probably going to be. So it's fear, huh? Be honest with me. You'd be scared a little bit. It's not, never be never be ashamed to admit. You know what I mean? Like, you know what? Like, I'd be scared to go out, man, because I just don't know what's going to happen.

It's nothing wrong with admitting to that. A regular stuff, though, no, no, right? You're not afraid to create content, but. Yeah. I mean, you're not fin to go, let's say, you know, downtown L.A., man, They have a lot of nice rooftop restaurants, man. Oh, yeah, that's cool. Amazing set up, environment.

Y'all never go to none of those places? I go to restaurants sometimes, right? Like, for instance, nine one. No, no, no, no, right? Other than DoorDash and Uber Eats. Nah, so, like, Rob's TV, right? So, like, Rob's TV, what's that? Like, where creators go?

He's a guy called Rob, right? Okay. Yeah, right. So, like, Rob, I took me to, like, something, like, vegan restaurant. Okay. Me, Rob, Patrick. Right? So, I go out to, like, restaurants.

That's cool for me. But, like, it's the public gathering where it's a bunch of, you know, masculine energy, machismo. You feel intimidated around it? You're a big deal. You shouldn't feel intimidated around it. Nothing good happens there, though, right?

Nothing. I mean, yeah. Things happen, then there's times when things don't happen. You know, it's like rolling a dice. You either going to hit your number or you're going to crap out. That's just how life is.

I'm being honest with you. I'm being honest with you. You got to get out more. But you are tough, though, right? Man, forget that tough. Look at you. You're a big dude. I don't know how to fight, though.

You can learn. You can learn how to fight. So technically, really, it'd be kind of like, okay, I don't know how to fight. Somebody run up on me. He bum on me. That's it. You're going to fold up?

Well, like, I'm licensed now, right? You answer the question. I say yes or no? You're going to fold up. So somebody run. What's up, honey, what are you from? What are you going to say to him? I'm from the West Fargo unicorns, man.

What's up? Right, right? Don't, let's see, this is the thing. Always remember, never live in fear. Because if you live in fear, that it brings stress on you as well. It really will, loved one. It'll bring it on. You got to start getting out more, man.

Let's go to the club one day. Club? No, boy, like the beach? He said, no, man. The beach, right, come on. It's aggravated, man. The water's dirty. Malibu.

Malibu is cool. Yeah, but the club's nothing wrong with it, man. I'm going to get you out the house. Man, listen. Listen. Let's do it. You right? For sure.

Okay. Yo, no, right. But also, too, is like, where would you recommend that safe in L.A.? I'm going to tell you something. There's no place safe. Yeah. People get killed in churches. Beverly Hills, too.

I mean, there's no such thing. It's safe, man. And it's just, you know, how you move. How should I move? You don't have, you don't, well, I like how you changed up on, you know, a lot of things that you said. Yeah. You know, and the way you said and things you spoke on. I like how you changed the narratives on that and you switched it up.

But there's no place safe. You know, if it's going to happen, it's going to happen. Yeah. You know. I know it's crazy too, though, right? Right. So, like, I have like I said like those things. things, right? Yes. Now, guess what? Like, like, 95% of my friends, like, in LA are all members, right?

Yeah. And when that, like, thing happened here, right? Right? Like, I got a call from, you know, Diane. Right? No, no, no. Okay. Right. And, like, he's from Compton, too, right? And he said, yo, like, are you good? I can pull up in 20 if you need me to, right? So, like, these are, you know, it's real good dudes, right? But coming from an environment where, like, I'd, you know, like, I'd never really, like, talk to one or, like, encounter one before, I kind of just, like, went off of, like, the stereotype that was being given it, right? But, you know, I'm definitely, like, glad that I met, like, rock star, Yao, you feel what I mean?

K.K., you know, right? You know, ODIM Slim, right? And, like, a bunch of good dudes, you know? Mm-hmm. You feel me? Mm-hmm. I had somebody too that hit me up. They wanted to

come in? Yeah, what they wanted to call in. Oh, that's dope. Yeah. He was going through some things. So he said he really didn't want to mention his name, which I told him he can keep that. You know, we don't have to mention his name, but, you know, he really had been experiencing things in life and really want some real advice. I mean, that's pretty much really what my show is about my show is about

you know having everyday people you know call in to the show that's going through something that needs some real down-the-earth advice from an older hit so they're like how like is it set up something like do they just tell you

yo I want to call in well I get a lot of phone calls every day you know since my interview with Adam I've been getting phone calls every day or messages every day and I mean I I give out a lot of advice. You know, I've been doing this, man, for about 10, 15 years of my life, literally, you know,

like talking to people personally, really, you know, interacting with people. I interact with people, you know, that's the best way. That's what I'm telling you, like, get out the house more, you know? You know, there's some right here. Okay, perfect. Hey, how you doing? How's going on OG suicide? Oh, man, everything's good, man.

Everything's good with me. How about yourself? Man, everything is good. Much love. I appreciate your time. No problem at all, man. Talk to me. What is it, man, that's on your mind that you want to, you know, you want to express?

Man, bro, I just, you feel me? I'm a new father, man. I got a one-year-old. I got a fiance. I be feeling like sometimes I be letting my emotions get the best of me, I guess. I'd be feeling angry a lot, man. What would you say make you feel angry, though? I mean, there have to be, like, a reason behind it.

Yeah. Some of it stems from feeling unappreciated sometimes, I guess. So from your kids' mom, you feel an unappreciated? Yeah, man, I completely got off all the drugs and got Kelly sober, as y'all call it. I just be smoking weed now. Okay. I gave up my whole music career to kind of like just be the father I'm supposed to be for my son and for her. Yes.

And sometimes I feel like it gets unappreciated or it just don't get shown correctly. What are some of the signs that you're seeing that you can actually say, you know what? I feel like you don't support me or you're not in my corner. Like, what are some of the signs? Like, for instance, what's one of the signs you can actually, like, say, I pinpointed it from this right here? I'm going to be honest. She's still really supportive. Like, I feel like we both got our downfalls, right?

Yes. Honestly, it's like, like sometimes I get off work, have a long as day in. Like, I stop chasing my own music dream and everything. just to go work a nine to five and shit. Yes. You know, that's not ideal at all, but I be... But that's good, because if you're just doing music and you're not providing for your family,

then, you know, what's the purpose? What's the reason of doing music? It's like, home first. You know, make sure your home is right. You can always get back to the music. But I still want you to answer the question that I ask you as far as name something, let's say, in particular,

that you can say that made you feel this way. I'm trying to figure out what made you feel this way. There have to be something happened or something you've seen. It's just a whole lot of arguments, man. Okay. It's like over silly shit, too. Like, we just argue over shit that shouldn't even matter at all. Like, and it's like, I don't know if I'm letting my emotion get the best of me.

Even when it comes down to, just for example, like us getting our son down to sleep, right? He's still one. So he goes to bed early and sometimes it's hard to even get down to sleep. But sometimes, like, when he don't be going down, we start bickering over. doing it what way and how it's happening and why it's happening. Okay, yeah, y'all arguing over like, yeah. Well, one thing, one way to fix that is kind of like y'all going to have to work with each other as far as on schedules. Like, you know what?

I know you go to work and you come home and doing the day, you know, she could take care of him, make sure he's good. And at nighttime, I know you'd be tired because you've got to get up in the morning. y'all definitely is going to have to work on like a time schedule as far as, you know, your son's sleeping. That's going to be one less argument, you know, because it's like y'all, it's like y'all doing tip for tat. Y'all blaming each other. Y'all blaming each other, you know, for things when y'all should really come together. You should sit her down. You should say, you know what, we've been doing all this arguing.

Let's really sit down and let's come together and let's map everything. everything out and let's work together with our son sleeping and let's work together as far as with, you know, your relationship, you know? No, 100%. And I'm lucky glad you said that because just to give you another example, sometimes I feel like I try to go have certain conversations and she don't be ready to have certain conversations and then I let that irritate the hell out of me, bro. So it's like...

So you stop asking her to sit down? You can't stop. y'all have to figure it out. If you don't figure it out, then it's going to continue being the same thing. You know, like a merry-go-round. It's just going to keep going in the circle. Right. Sometimes it's just hard to get that conversation open.

Like, sometimes she'd be overwhelmed, too. You know babies is overwhelming. I know you're going to be your owner and everything. Yes. And so babies, it gets overwhelming. And she get a little more overwhelmed in the moment than I do it. So, like, when I go to bring it up in a conversation and try to have it with her, she kind of shut down and want to, like, just kind of go through her.

her own the emotions real quick. Maybe it's the wrong time. Maybe it's the wrong time you're asking her. Maybe you got to figure out like the right time. You know, like doing those times where y'all are right, enjoying each other and talking and, you know, spending time together and, you know, those moments. Maybe that's kind of like the best time.

Like, not after y'all had an argument, then you want to say, hey, let's sit down and talk about it. Like maybe talk about those things, like I said, during the times where when it's good, not when it's bad when it's good because it's going to be a better conversation because y'all are already in the mood and y'all are talking to each other and you can feel the love you know amongst both of y'all you can feel the love amongst both of y'all together so i really feel like that would be a good time for y'all to to really express each other not even creating an argument just like hey you know what i want to talk to you you know um you know about the things that we've been going through and and let's let's work together and figure out a way for us to figure out a way for us to figure out of it out and work on it. You know, not even raising your voice, just a normal, regular conversation. Yeah, man, that's what I struggle with.

A lot. I ain't going to lie. I raise my voice out of voice. Okay, you got to work on that, though. I mean, how are you going to, you know, address the situation if you're coming aggressive? Right. You know, you ain't got your fistball when you're doing this, do you? No, no, no, I'm just clowning.

That was a joke. That was a joke. That was a joke. Don't walk in the room with the gloves on, man. Don't walk in the room with the gloves on. I'm just saying. No, but... 100%.

Yeah, but work on that, family. Like, really work on that, man. Like, you know, I'm sure she makes you happy. Yeah, man. I don't want to fumble a good girl. You know what I'm saying? I hear Lush talk about it on the pot all the time. And, you know, I really relate to that shit, man.

I don't want a fumble a good girl, you feel me? She's a great mother to my son. And, like, she's supportive over everything I do. just getting upset over silly shit and like you said like... Yeah, y'all tip for tat. So you, so it's going to start with you first working on your anger.

You know? Right. Because you can't, you can't hold a peaceful, quiet conversation. You know what I mean? If your voice is up. You know, if you walk in there yelling, hey, I want to talk to you. That automatically is going, you know, bring steam in the room.

You know? Are you drinking during this time? Have you had a drink? I just smoked. You ain't on no old English? I'm not having drink on football nights, but other than that, I'm just a smoker. Okay, okay, okay. That's cool.

That's cool. You got this, family. You got this. Work on it, man. Get it together. So y'all not going through the tip for tap, man. And if you can help out a little more with, you know, doing the times, you know, the sleep times for your son. You know, kind of like as much as you can assist her, you know, that way she could get some rest.

because she feel like, you know, she's with the baby all day. But she got to understand you at work all day. You know what I mean? She's taking care of home. And you're also taking care of home by you going to work every day. But the key thing is work on your anger, loved one, and then work on your better in your relationship. And you're assisting her more in, you know, the sleep times for your child.

Like, you know what? Like, babe, go ahead. get you some rest and, you know, I got him right now. Yeah, you're right. You know, build the understanding. That's the key thing. Build the understanding amongst both of y'all. Okay.

You good? No, 100%, man. I appreciate you a lot, for real. Man, call me anytime, family. No problem at all. Man, I'm always a phone call away, man. Keep your head up. Work on your anger, man, and love your family and fix your home.

No doubt. Hey, OG suicide in the building, man. Make sure y'all keep tuned with this podcast, man, for real. Yes, sir. Thank you, family. Appreciate you. All right. That's dope, man.

I mean, that's what it's about, loved one. Yeah, man. That was amazing. You know, that's what it's about. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Yeah, man. Now, he sounded, you know, like super young, too, man.

Well, a lot of, you know, a lot of people that's tuned in, what I've learned, Teno Jumper are young. You know, a lot of them are young. You know, I say between the ages of, like. 1824? Even older. Because I have a few people that's hit me up just like 35, 36.

But that's the average. I'll say 85% it is age bracket you just said. Meant definitely, right? It's the fact that they now know, damn, bro. Even if I can't afford therapy, I still got like OG's number to where you feel me?

I've been had this phone number right here 17 years. She, 17? 17 years. It's the same number right here. And my other number I've had for 12 years. Are you a real one, man? Yo, because, like, I've had, like, this number here for, like, a year.

Yeah. And I'm thinking about changing it now, man, because, man. Why? See, look, see, you got to get out that mode, that living fear mode. You got to let it go. Seriously, little one. You're bigger than that. Not fear, right?

All right, well, what you call it? All right. No, no, no. I won't use the terminology then. The phone. Fear. What's wrong with the phone? You need it.

What if somebody has? haven't talked to you in that long really need to get in touch with you and they can't. Yeah, right. You said to hell with them. And like, it's like, it's like too many people have it. And like I'm talking about I'm getting calls consistently about, hey, yo, can you do my podcast? Hey, yo, can you like post me on this? Hey, yo, can you like.

But I thought you charged for posts. But like, it's friends though, right? Right. right, you feel me right, or, or. So do you feel like they feel entitled because they know you and, and, okay, I put it like this. Yeah. Were they calling you prior to like the position you in now?

No. You're in a major position, your name is out there, you've expanded a lot. Yeah. Were they calling you before then? No, no, not, not. That's a part of growth. That's a part of life.

It's going to happen. Now, imagine if you was a rapper and you had a hot-ass single, Flacco. You know, flaco getting to the dough. The new single out. And that shit big. It's on the charts.

You think you're receiving phone calls now. It's going to really be through the roof. Yeah. Yeah. Man, bro. Right. You know, like so now it's just like mad people call it,

you know, like asking about money. Right. So like. Well, what'd you tell them? Oh. No,

no, no, no. Right. So like. No, answer the question. You know what I mean? You're like a jumping jack.

Yeah. No. So like, I know who. calls like to pick up and who not to pick up, right? Okay, you got a program, don't answer. Yeah, right, right? You do for real?

Not like, in certain people that we know, like when they're calling, you know. I keep saying, I don't speak French. You said, we, we, I don't know them people. That's your people. I answer minds all the time. You know, even people I don't want to talk to. I'm going to answer them.

I'm going to get them off the phone fast, but I'm going to answer. Yeah, right. Not. In certain people that I know, like, when they're calling, they're calling just to borrow money. Okay. So for those people. So you kind of got burnt out with loaning money because they never pay it back? No, like, they're just asking for it.

Like, right? So, like... Like, free? Yeah. Not even loan me? Like, man, shoot me this? Cash at me? Yeah.

You feel me? Yeah. Right? No, like, because they assume, like, you know, like, we're on, like, a big platform. So, like, we're all, like, multimillionaires. And that's not the case, bro. You feel me? Like, right now, again, like, we all do really well, right?

Right, and like, you know, and like way better than like most people, right? So you don't mind helping? Is there? But you do have people that you help though, right? Yeah, like family though. Okay. So these people, they're not family. They just not people you know.

Yeah, right. They see you pop and they're like, hey, you know. But I'm doing bad. I'm going to hit flaco. Yo, it's insane. Yo, I have people from high school and who hit me up, right? Nah, man, but like I pay, you know, my mom bills every month. That's good.

Right? She's good. for that. Man, man. Like, you know, like, my goal was to, like, make her retire before she's 50, right? She's 40, I think she's 44. But that's good, man. That's amazing.

Right? But I'm taking care of moms and some family here and there, so I don't have, like, you feel what I mean, like, an extra $10,000 to just that extra, huh? Man, bro. So flaco, the man with the bread, man. Cash had me like $50 real quick, man. I'm telling you, man, like, listen, but the worst mistake that I made

was making my cash out public. Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. Hold up. You made your cash out public? Yeah, for promo, right? Oh, okay. Right saying... So you're getting requests then.

Man, it's insane, bro. Yo, I won't request that God was crazy, right? Like, it's insane. Man, yo, man, please, man, I need my... blah, right? Mm-hmm. And then I see their, like, DM. Yeah.

Man, please, blah, blah, blah. And then, like, I go to their page and do, like, money spreads. That's how you're getting the money. Hey, he was for the ad yours to the spread. He was going to use one of all this from Flaco right here. Flacco sent me 10 Gs. I'm like, come on, man. Like, you fly to me, bro.

Like, you feel I mean? Like, come on, man. Well, no, man. You know, but, you know, we still get in adjusted to, you know, the quote-unquote fame, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely, definitely. And with my podcast also, man, I want to say is I want to keep it positive. You know, I'm not into the controversy of thing.

I've done enough of the controversy of things in the street life, you know, with, you know, with this right here, man, I want to make sure, you know, it's always positive. It's always good energy. Like if they people want to watch to each his own If someone want to go watch You know I mean that You know controversy Or about the ops or whatever You fooling

They got that Yeah But if they want to get uplifted Motivated and inspired And if they're going through it And they just need that moment To hear that right word Come to the building

OG suicide in the building Yeah Oh yeah also too I do want like Like give you your props man You found a gem of an artist. Like, you found somebody that, that, like, I think after, like,

just going back and, like, checking out his stuff, yeah. He's going to be, like... Who? Oh, man. And, like, he's the light-skinned dude and who sings. Oh, Drehill? Yes. Oh, man. Yes. He's going to be... You heard my son, a little side, my bro, Izzy. I can be Izzy, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right? Yeah, but you said, Dre Hill?

Man, bro. It's the melodies, the flow, right? Like, you know, like, you know, like, so me, person, Like, I don't listen to, like, actual rap, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like the melody stuff, you know, like the Drake, the Rod Wave, the right to hill, man, yeah, bro. Like, I'm bumping stuff a lot, bro, like, he's definitely, I'm telling you, man, like, you got one right there, man, you know? That's what's up, man, I appreciate that.

Yeah, man. I appreciate that. Okay. Honest opinion, honest opinion is always good. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? And we didn't talk about this before the show. There's something you brung up on your own.

Nah, he's hard as hell, me. So, hopefully, bro, listen, reach out to me, man, feel me? You know, we can lock in something. On a promo? No, no, not here, you know? Okay, you want to interview him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, that's cool.

Yeah, that's cool. Bro, again, like, like, and they haven't heard him yet, right? Right? So they're probably like, yo, who's this guy? I'm telling you all right now, bro. Tap into that guy, man. How did you even, like, like, fonts might like that? I met him through some people, you know what I mean?

He was working with some people and the way I feel, not even the way I feel, just being totally, 100%, they didn't have his best interest. You know, in his music, you know, and when he was brung to me, I've seen the potentials, I've seen everything that he can do, you know? Yeah. And, I mean, the rest is history. It's like the goal is to, like, to find him a deal,

or, like, he's signed to you already, right? So you guys are just going to go, like. Yeah, I manage him. I manage my son. side and Izzy. But if a deal come and it makes sense, then yeah. But for right now, we're doing it independent.

We push it, man. We're moving. We're moving, for sure. I love it, man. That's what's up. That's what's up, man. I appreciate that. But I want to get back to when we're going to hit the club, man. I'm getting you out the house, man. You can't live in fear. Do you peek out the blinds? Be honest with me.

Peek out the blinds. You pick out the blinds? Tell the truth. I live like on like the fourth floor. You're like, if they get me up here, they got me. If they can't climb, you know, they can't climb that far. No, the reason I said that, because I remember when you told me, and it was funny as hat to me, when you was like, man, oh, gee,

I think I got to move. I was like, you got to move. Like, why? Yeah, man, the security guard, he recognized the- both of them. Both were recognizing them. But I'm like, they're the security. What are they going to do to you?

They're security. Yeah, man. You didn't feel comfortable? You got scared. Be honest with me, you got scared, though. Definitely scared, right? Okay. See, thank you.

They were security, but they were going to do on the job. So what do you think they're going to come to your door? Why are they at work? No. Hey, let me talk to you. Hey, Flaco, come here. No, like, it was security, but they looked like they were some legit, you feel me, right, you know, some real dudes, you feel me?

I mean, they got real cats that got security jobs. Yeah. Yeah. Right. But there's no reason to move. Didn't somebody threaten you? No. You just didn't feel comfortable.

They didn't know about like... You thought you was hitting. I was a goner, you feel it? Never, if they know, like, my apartment number, you feel what I'm right? So you think they're going to give it out to somebody? I know where he lived. But you, I mean, you've said some things, you know what I mean, that have offended people. Yeah, yeah, sure.

But you haven't actually physically done. done some things that make a person, like, literally wanted to this come get you, like, you wouldn't take enough change. Did you move? No, so I'm moving two months. Oh, my God. At least it's over. At least it's over.

All right. Oh, okay. So what about the new spot you move in? You get all the way moved in. And somebody comes knock on your door. Doop, doop, doop, doop. You'd be like, hey, what's going on? Yeah.

Hey, man, what's all that smack? Let's talk. Bop, blah, ba, blah. You brought up. Oh, you said you was license, huh? Yeah, it's going to license. Yeah. All right, but you know what?

You're going to jail. You want to know why? Because he wasn't in your house when you shot him, so you just, you just destroyed yourself. I don't do that, then. Now, now, now, now you, now you're jail buying soups for everybody. Hey, flaco, I'm going to need a package every month. Oh, man. Yo, no, listen, though, because right?

Because I would have to give, like, half my commissary just to, like, So you will? What? You're going to give it away? I mean, jail like... You're supposed to run that. You're supposed to run that, man. Like, faith every day?

So you're going to... I mean, if it comes to you every day, so you're going to, like, you're going to pay your way? Uh, fine. No, no, no, right? So, fine, but the biggest do there, right? Like, I'm talking about, like, the... You is crazy, right?

I'm talking about six, nine, jacked up, you feel of me? Running inch? You can be like, yo, yo, yo, I got you. Give him everything, right? Yeah? opposed to getting things taken by everybody else, just find the biggest dude there, you feel me? And be like, you know, it's a little understanding.

Don't you ever tell nobody no shit like that. Damn. Yeah, you don't never fear nothing. You'll never fear nobody, honey. Even if a person whoop you in a fight, honey, you're going to get more respect than losing in the fight because you fought. Yeah.

So don't think like that, love one. Seriously. from me being unk, you know what I mean, talking to my neff, like, no, honey, when to lose, win a lose. I don't know how y'all grew up out there, you know, where you come from, but I'm sure it's different, how you grew up, you know, but don't ever think like that, love one. Yeah, me, yeah, look. Please don't.

If I go to jail, if, what's God forbid. Well, if had more letters, it'll be a bigger word. So we're not going to think like that. Yeah, right. I was the first call that I'm making into the OG, feel me, man. What you're going to do? Bill you out?

Nah, I'm in part, whatever. But you ain't going to jail. You good, man. You ain't getting into no trouble? Bro. Yeah, man. I just, man, I just might not have been this, man. But I'm now learning now that, like,

I have to pay taxes soon. So, like, you know, so. I mean, actual taxes to, like, the government, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm like, you got a store and then that came in your store. Like, hey, hey, you got to pay. Yo, I heard those stories, man, bro.

Again, which is why I'm neutral and mess with everybody, man. Because I can't imagine, bro, like, you know, having to, like, give up, like, 20% like the mobs, right? But how you can't imagine when you just said, if you go to jail, you're going to volunteer to give the shit away. It's like a close proximity to let you see me every day. So that's only if you was locked up, but on the streets you ain't doing, you're just going to hide in an apartment and peek out the blinds. I can avoid people, right? Outside, I can avoid people.

Hey, that shit is going to eventually bring stress onto you, family. Like, you kind of want to get out, man. Like, or you feel like if you get out, then you feel like you've done enough damage or said enough things to where somebody might approach you? Now, no. No, okay. You now know. So you're going to took out your desk printing and your broom and you didn't clean things up a little bit.

Yo, now, but listen, I would listen, like, it got serious, though, right? For me, man, like, I was seeing, like, mad, like, YouTube channels and shit, like, reacting, right, you know. Yeah, I heard somebody followed you, took a picture of you. Yeah, bro, that's, man, bro. Hey, I know you was peeking out the blind. Oh, my God. Yo, yo, that situation was so bizarre to me. Yeah?

Would you scare? No, I see him. How you get the picture, they sent it to you? Yeah, they posted it or their IG. Yeah, right? And somebody sent it to you? How did you see it? I think it was like hip-hop trends posted it for me.

Oh, he posted it for you or for you to see it? For me to see it. Okay. Right. So, bro, and that story is so crazy, right? So, like, at that time, right? I had my car at the shop, right? Yeah.

And my windows are, like, dark enough to where, like, you probably, you know, like, can't, like, spot me from, like, the other side, right? Yeah, yeah. But I was in, in, you know, you know, like, um, this Uber now. And the Uber was, like, a freaking, like a, like a fish boy. It was, like, like, no tense at all.

Right. You stood out in there. Man. So we drive it and I'm like on my phone, right to scroll it. So like I think nothing of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get home and I see like, like, you know, like, like, so it was hip-hop trends. And then the Vashite, you know, like posted it too, right?

But then like I see bro talking about, oh. I've seen Flacco on the highway He was looking at me And you never looked You was in your phone the whole time Huh? I'm my phone the whole time But I think they used that title

Because you know it drew interest You know how you word that You know because some of your titles On your post Go wild, go crazy It makes me stop Like wait a minute Let me go back to that one

What do you say? So you know It grabs people You know the wording It grabs them Yeah right Have you been in an Uber sister. No, man, you feel

me? I know. I don't drive. You can order the X-Ls with the tent. Yeah. It's just like I don't understand. It's like, why will somebody record me in real time and post me knowing the climate of LA, right? Right, right?

Right, like. But you, I mean, I get what you're saying, but you, like, you act, you say that as if people are after you. People are after you? You feel like people are after you? No, no, no. Now, no.

He wanted to get, he was a clout chaser. He wanted to get clout off of you. I seen Flocko and he was, he was looking at me. You never looked up. Yeah. But what if you would have looked up and seen him with the phone like this? What would have been your first reaction? What was the first thing you did?

Go, go, go. No, go. To the Uber driver. Hey, go, go, go. Get me out of here. Nah, go, go, right. And then also, too, though, I would have been, like, more now aware of, like,

if they're following me and who's following, right? So, like, I loki wished that... You'd have seen him, huh? Yeah, right, right? Because if you would have, you'd have been like an owl, huh? Your head would have been... You'd have been, like an owl. Your head would have spent on with him.

Yeah, right? No, no, because now it was like... So Gina got followed home. Right? So I don't know if they follow me home Like they follow home Gina Right But if I would have seen them

Wait you say you don't know if they follow Me home Like they follow Gina Okay Right Now having nothing happens So you're good Yeah man

But also too is like I'm well protected now right So it's kind of like you know Like you license You protect it Yeah right You're gonna use it But you gotta know

You gotta know when to use it Because the scenario you gave earlier. You'd be making collect calls. All they did was knocked on your door and was like,

hey, you're like, wow, that's cold. Yo, here, right. So,

like, so, Gina and, like, Almighty, played, play, like,

a prank, right? And on, like, the fans, right? Because I was late right for the show.

So, so, like, and they told them, yo, like, Thako got locked up and he won't be here, right?

And, like, he got locked up for having a blicky. bro, like, when I tell you my inbox exploded, I seen the chat talk about, ha, ha, ha, that's what he gets. Right? I was like, damn, yo, those people right now praying that, you know, you know, you know.

I mean, but that's a part of life. You're going to have people that love you. You're going to have people that hate you. So you can't expect everybody to love you or have love for you. Yeah, for you. Even flaco got enemies. Man, crazy. No, right, but, you know, but like I was kind of happening.

to see that there's people out there and who believe that I'm hard enough to where I got booked for, you know. It don't mean nothing, man. Yeah. They don't have nothing to do. Hold up. Let me get this water real quick, man. I got to correct that one for you. You going to jail don't mean you hard or you're tough.

You want to know why? Because they take people to jail for stealing bologna and meat out the grocery store. So they're tough. Hey, what you ain't for? Yeah, I stole a damn ham. You know? How do you tell them somebody is tough? How do you tell them people?

You don't. How do you tell? No, no, no, no. Hit the buzzer. Hey, he got to go. To the ride. Exit stays right. Harkness the Mercant Troy.

He got to go. How do you tell that somebody is tough? What you mean? How do you tell? Like, are there signs, their eyes, their body language? I mean, do I look like a buster? No. Okay, then that's how you tell.

Oh, man. But not everybody that look intimidating is really violent like that. Yeah. You know what I mean? So you really can't tell, you know? Man, it's like... Like a book. Never judge a book by its cover.

Yeah. You know? Not like, if there was like a hood in style completed to where we can like see like, you know, like who. Why are you trying to see who they are so you know that to go around them? No, no, no. What's the case? No. What's the purpose?

Right. So that and like to know like who, who you don't even play games. You feel what I? You feel what I'm like. But you're not in the streets like that. You're good. That's what I'm telling you. You can really go out in the public like and get out.

You got to get out the house a little more, a little more. Yeah, but like, as a podcast. You got a female friend that come to the house? Nah, man. Yo, tell me why my girl was, oh, my God, she was pissed because she's seen, like, all the content, right? Yeah. Right. That, like, we, you know, we brought her into a man, brother.

Why she met? You know, like, like, because. She didn't want to be mentioned? No. She's a mystery girl. Not, right. So, like, she felt like. She's not a genie in the body.

Is she? No, not, not, not. Okay. And she felt like I didn't defend her hard enough, right? And... So she stressed out? Well, now, like, I just told her, like, you feel me? Y'all, no, no, no.

Nah, no, no. You still sending them cash out, man. Hey, day. He said, hey day. Say, when you say, Snoop said, I smoke weed every day. You say I'm saying cash-ups every day. Every day, man. Not, but like, I kind of learned, though,

while I told her, you know, I'm not going to, like, include you no more, you feel me, right? I'm going to, you know, make sure, like, you know. But do you consider what y'all have is private life? Yes. Okay, then maybe you shouldn't put your private life out in public. Yeah. It's not, it's no longer, you know, private when it's in the public.

Yeah. So it's too late now. It's over. It's in the public now. You know once it hit the internet, that's it. And that's why, like, we don't follow each other, right? Why not? Because fans gonna, like...

You scared somebody gonna holler at her? No, right? So, like... You don't have to send more capsaps. It's like, once I see, though, right? Yeah. So you're gonna go press somebody? And she's sending you a message, like, somebody you know.

Somebody you know personally. Yeah. And you see a message. and they don't hollered at your girl. And you'd be like, you know what? Can't wait. Can't wait to see her. Nah, man.

Not, no, no, not, not. You're not going to say nothing. You're like, hey, man, that ain't cool, man. You're like, man, you messaging my girl. What's wrong with you? You're going to say nothing? He's like, oh, it's cool. It's on her, though, right?

But she sent you a screenshot of who this person was, and you know them real good. One of your creator friends that you're going to hang out with, you know, at the creator spot, you know? And he's sitting in there smiling in you. In your face. Man, what's up? Nah.

What's up, flago? Nah. Then you're going to say something? You're going to press him? Pressing? Okay, so like, I'm deaf pushing the line, right? Like, pressing them? It's pushing the line?

Yeah, right? It's... No, you're letting it be known. Like, it's not cool. Yeah. So you ain't going to let it know it's not cool? I'm going to have to smack him up a little bit, man. No, no, I have to play, man.

I just play, man. Okay, no, no. Do you do what you got to do, you know? Right hand, left hand. You're a big dude. You better have some take down techniques or something. No, yo, right? But like, it's because I'm like, I'm big that I'm scared of fight because

too many guys won't fight me, they're going to shoot. Not necessarily. Yeah. Not necessarily. Yeah. You, hey, you really want to be that dude out there. You want to be that dude. You want to go to the hug and put on all that.

Nah, nah, nah, nah, no, no. I'm big flaco. Then you'll have a little flaco. Nah, man. A little flock, you call him little flock? Well, no, right? No, yo, if I had like a little homie, yeah.

Yo. Both of y'all can't be scary, though. Yeah, I know, right? He said I know, right? I know, right? I know, right? So, like, poetic gordo. Right?

Okay. Because flaco means skinny, and gordo means big. So, like, if I'm poetic flaco, I'll probably name, like... So flaco means skinny? Yeah. That's what that mean? Yeah. Why do you call you something?

It's catchy, huh? At some point it fit, though. It's controversy. Well, that and at the time, I was skinny. Oh, how long ago was that? How old are you? You 25? 24.

So, what, like 22 years ago? 2019. 2019? Yeah, look, get on. Let me see this. Look. You skinny? Like, what, 150 pounds?

Not like probably like 80 pounds ago So like what So like 200 Oh okay You look You feel me I'm gonna show you

I'm telling you man Yo I was buff And then I was skinny too I'm gonna show you both You feel me I'm gonna show you both Oh

This is All right Let me see man What you got What you got man What you got man For Laco You set you in the gym, though, right?

You're going to get it back down, huh? Yeah, man, you know. Okay. You know what that comes from, right? What? Staying in the damn house. You got to get out that house. You got to come outside, man.

I know. I know. I eat like, you know, like a hair, right? Here, right? So, like, here's me buff and then I'm going to show you me skinny, right? All right. So here's me. Let me see, man.

In 2019. You, nigga. Okay. Damn, boy, what happened? I got his being, I'm gonna show you. Well, I can see you now. What happened, man?

At 2019, right? Yeah, yeah. No, this is 20, see, like, 2020. Right? So, like, I've only been fat for, like, what? You know, like, a year now? Okay, okay. Right?

And that's because, like, I'm somebody, man, where I'm, like, obsessive, right? Meaning, like, if I say, listen, I'm trying to, like, do this. Yeah, yeah. My whole life, life, life, life that I kid to it, right? So, like, I told myself, like, after school, man, was, yo, listen, man, like, I got to make this shit happens. Okay. So, like, I said. What, like, being a podcaster?

Yeah, yeah, right? So I said, listen. I'm going to start like this, like YouTube channel. Okay. And after work, I'm going to put everything into the- What work you used to do? Like, it's kind of like a document processing center, right? We create like templates, contracts, you something like that, right?

So after I worked an eight-hour job. Yeah. I would now but come home and spend like another like eight hours. Create content. Yeah, five videos a day. Okay. Okay. And posted five videos a day for like six months straight, nonstop.

Okay. But when you posting, like, damn many times, and I'm at my desk for 16 hours a day, bored, you feel what I'm, like drinking much of. Eating, eating, snacking. Yeah, right? Late night. Yeah, it happens. Yeah, right.

So, like, I kind of sacrifice, you know, like my, like, gali physique, you feel what I'm talking about, bro. Trust me, I know. I used to have a six-pack. I got a keg now, but I used to have a six-pack. Right? Yeah. It's kind of like, you know, you know, so like I kind of sacrifice that just to make it. So now that you're understood.

Understood. You kind of like let the fitness go like, this is where I need to be. This is where I need to get at. But you can always, you know what I mean, tone it down. So it's good. You're good. Do it ever bother you, though? Like, do you ever look at yourself like, damn, man, I used to, you know, have this certain look.

Yeah. You know what bother you? Now, no, right, because it's like so. You got used to it. And when I chose, right, like start, yes. My girlfriend was graduating school soon, right? Okay.

And she was like a doctor, right? A farm V. We're about to be like a pharmacist. Mm-hmm. So at that time, I'm, you know, like at this bullshit job, making about like $16, 17 bucks an hour. Mm-hmm. Anything beats a zero, though.

Yeah, right? Yeah. And she's about to be a doctor. So, like, I knew, bro, like, I got, like, a couple of months to figure this shit out. Yes. And figure this shit out quickly because I can't be just some regular dude. So you felt like she was going to look down on you? Because she graduated.

She's going to have this mega career. And here you are. You're making $16. And she's going to be making, like, 60 an hour. So you feel like it was going to change your relationship? She was going to look down on you? Now, like, her looking down on me, I don't think so, right. Or competition.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You looked at it. It was going to be like a competition thing. Yeah, so that means she's going to look down on you because she could say, oh, I make more than you. You ain't making nothing. Yeah, right. And also, too, right? It's like, I've always been a provider, right?

So, like, I've always been a provider, right? Okay. Where, you know, I love to pay for a day, luckily, right? So, like, if I'm still making the $16. bucks dollar and her lifestyle is going to like elevate because she's But this is your girl, your lifestyle elevates too.

I can't if you're the provider and her lifestyle changes and she elevates from an amazing job. And so you mean to tell me your life don't supposed to elevate with her? That means she's looking down on you.

So she can be like, oh, you make it 16 I need to go find a doctor. I'm lawyer. Yeah, man. Yeah, that's how you feel? Well, I thought that's Holly, right? Okay. Right, but. Okay. You seem different.

No, well. Well, you said you got on it and you changed it. I made it before I could find out. Right? Okay. Right, so. All right. So I guess, like, I would never know until, you know, like, God forbid, I go broke, you feel

me? But. You're not going broke. Man. Long as you're making smart decisions and you're doing the right things with your money, you're going to be good. I am frugal as frugal comes, man. You feel me?

Right? As frugal as frugal consmen. But now, man, you know, with the bigger picture, man, is to, like, do this content. Okay. And then, like, transition into the stand-up comedy world. Are you going to do comedy? Yeah, man.

Is it all right? All right. Let me hear a joke. Let me hear something, for real. Huh? If you high, you can hear. I said, let me hear a joke. Aye.

Let me hear something. I hear. Cool. So why did the gay employee who, worked at the sperm bank get fired. I don't know. Because he was drinking on the job. Come on, man.

Nah, that's not funny. Come on, man. That's hilarious. Hey, we got another water? Yeah. Because that was dry as fuck. Oh, come on, man. That was dry as fuck.

Get it, though, right? Yeah, get it, but that was dry as fuck, man. Hey, but keep it up, though. You never know. I still working, you know? Keep it up. You know, keep writing jokes. You never know.

You mess around and get some good ones. Yo, listen, I kind of feel like I can be the next Paul Mooney. Okay. Right? Like, here, right? So, like, why Paul Mooney was different is because Paul Mooney was a dude who was, like, conversational and told stories. But he wrote for a lot of comedians.

Oh, shit. Yeah, you didn't know that, right? No, no, no, no, no. You want to be this gentleman, but you have to do your research on him first. Yeah. He's wrote for Red Fox for many, many comedians. Oh, man. Yeah.

Look it up. And he don't get, get, like, that credit he deserved, though. He got his credit in his pocketbook. That was all the credit he needed, you know? Yeah. Man, it's like, he's so smart, though. I feel like Paul Mooney and Chris Rock are, like, the two dudes who's, like, you know, I'm trying to, like, go after.

Wait, so ahead, right? So Chris, my question for you, right? So if you were Chris Rock. Don't put me in them shoes. All right, sorry, sorry. Because ain't nobody's slapping me. So, no, no, no, no. Okay, but go ahead.

No, no, no. I'm going to say this. I'm not good at being examples. So let's just say somebody else, you know, on another scenario. Let's just say anybody else. Flacco, let's say flakle, right? All right. Perfect person.

If you, you. Just joking with you, man. Just joking with you, man. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah, Flaco, Flaco. Right idea. Best idea right there, Flaco.

Right. If you got the word that, yo, that Will Smith smacked up. Flacco. On stage. And then Flacco tells you, A-O-G, like, I was here and these white folks were here, and it was a real, like, you know, delicate and, like, you know, high-up event. Yes. I couldn't do nothing.

Why you couldn't? Okay, what's your response to that? No, I just said, why you couldn't? That was my response. Why you couldn't? You wasn't taught that as a kid? If somebody hit you, you hit them back? I was deaf-taught-taught-old as a kid, yeah.

Okay, so you're going to be like, you know what? I don't know, man. Yeah. Me? I don't like using myself as, like I said, example. But everybody would have started running out of their family. Yeah. We didn't have to tear the room up.

from this wall to that wall to this wall. Like, I get it. You know, he feel like, you know, I'm in front of the world. Yeah. Man, listen, man, a thousand homies is coming from out of the quarter to just. They're already going to be there deep. So, yeah, we've been to tear up, you know. Yeah, man.

Definitely. What? What are your, like, your, like, goals and dreams. Like, what are you trying to do before you, you know, leave? my goals and dreams that I want to do personally loved one I'm pushing hard to be a big part of the face of never give up you know continue to lead by example and I want to be that person man that people actually say

they look at their life and look at what they're going through and can actually look at me as an example like man this this dude been through hell You know, I was born a crack baby, you know, born a crack baby, drug baby. Abandoned when I was 18 months. Homeless at 16. So I've been through it, you know, been shot a couple of times. And to be sitting here, sitting, if you made it through the 80s and the 90s, it's a blessing.

So for me, to be sitting here sitting across from you, you know, it's definitely a blessing. But that's what I want to do, man. I kind of want to just be a person that could point out, like the gentleman that called. Yeah. I want to be that person that could give that real advice, man, and that they take heed to it and and they listen to it because anybody can be successful. Yeah. No matter what trauma you have going on in your life, you know, you can make it through.

But the key thing is you really have to be doing things. Like, you know, people that's not working and they be stressed out. And sometimes I talk to him and be like, okay, well, what do you do during the day? Like, well, you know, most of the time I'm just, you know, I'm just at the house. I said, well, if I was you, I would get dressed up and start going to some different places. And, you know, motivating yourself, uplifting yourself, you know, to get out there and make your life better. Because life ain't going to get better unless you're assisting yourself, you know, and helping your life get better, man. and you got to be doing the right things for it to get better,

no matter how bad it is, because a lot of times life have to get bad before it get better. I agree, just like me. When I came out to hospital, you know, I can't express it enough. When I came out to hospital, man, I still was in the situation that I was in. You know, I spoke about this when me and Adam talked on episode one. And I had to make up my mind. I can't express it enough.

That's something that I always, always speak on. I can't express it enough. I had to make up my mind. Nobody could help me get my life together. Nobody can help me turn on that light in my head to make me say, you know what, this is not what I want. I want better. And I started progressing and doing everything I needed to do, just like you said.

In two months, you're like, you know what? I'm tired of doing this job. This is what I'm going to do. And you got to it. You got in front of that computer. you came on for work, you got in front of that computer. Every day, every day. Eight hours work, eight hours in front of that computer, creating content,

doing everything you had to do to get where you at right now. Look at you now. Yeah. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Yeah, man. You got to apply to yourself for that. And anybody can do that.

Anybody. You know, some people look and they see celebrities and they be amazed. I get it. this is a person that really believed in themselves because belief starts with themselves first. And they did what they were supposed to. And they executed. And they continued to blossom and grow until they became successful. Then they became a celebrity.

So no matter what it is, a person won't in life, as long as they put in one foot in front of the other and continue moving forward with tunnel vision, it's going to happen. man like I tell everybody like who hit me up saying man how can I do this man put me on I'm like bro like just you know like just start up like a YouTube channel like start up like an IG page yes and just dedicate as much time again

if you can go to work and punch clock for that white man bro you feel me you can like come home and just dedicate to your own stuff right yeah fan like I'm a dude who stutters and us get paid to speak for a living anything is possible right right like everything is possible bro

It's people in wheelchairs and everything, man, that's living in life, that's being successful in life. So you can't let nothing, nothing. I don't care what it is, man, like hold you back. All of you can stop you. That's one thing I learned about life. All of you can stop you. Nobody can stop you. You know, no matter how much people hate on you or people pray on your downfall, no matter.

As long as you're still doing what you're supposed to do and you believe in yourself and you're making them right decisions to get you from point A to point B, you're going to progress you're going to become successful man bro you know bro like it's like mass successful too man you feel me now here here a question right so now you know you're in the podcast space right you know like there's conversations of now like

of deep platforming and and like not speaking to certain people because they bring you know like like here right so like earlier I think I think on Monday the fans were mad at us because we had a conversation with somebody they keep on calling a racist white supremacist called Nick Fuentes, right?

So for the OG suicide and in a building show, are there people that you just won't speak to? Or are you open to like sharing different ideologies and, right? Well, there's, my thing is this. There's people that I don't speak to in the streets that I've known for years. You know, but my thing is, my show is about positive. Yes. You know, I don't need nothing negative.

You know, I'm not into backfire. Yeah. You know, like, definitely, you know. I mean, I'm just being honest, you know. I don't need nothing around me. Because there's nothing that can be around me that can dictate or predict who I am or or take any credibility from who I am because of who they are. but me, I just move a certain way.

I agree. That's just it, you know? Yeah, man. I mean, I'm going to love this. I'm going to love this space that I'm in. You know, this is amazing. But like I said, I want to separate from everything else, you know, phone calls. I don't know nobody out there that's, you know, that's really pushing for suicide awareness,

that's pushing for suicide prevention, that's pushing for cyberbullying. because we got young people in this world, man, that's committing suicide, you know, seven, six, seven, eight years old that have not even experienced life. And they want to take their life. You know, they're going to school and they're being bullied and schooled. And then they're scared to talk to somebody because the bully is telling them, if you tell anybody I'm going to do this, I'm going to harm you. And they'd be scared and they live in fear.

And it's like, who do they talk to? They can't even talk to their parents who they go home to every. day and and and and the parents be like hey how was school oh school was fine it was good school was it was good i had a good time but in the back of their mind they scared they live in fear you know and and they don't know how to deal with it so we have a problem when you have kids we have a problem when you have anybody taking their life absolutely but definitely we have a problem and it's time to stop kicking it under the rug i'm tired of it getting kicked under the rug.

Mental health is very important. You know, a lot of our military people goes through mental health. You know, a lot of people, man, homeless, just all around the world. People go through mental health. People have mental health issues, family, and it's time to stop kicking it under the rug.

It's time to really stand up and do something about it. I mean, we have to. Yeah, I agree, man. No, because it was like, I think it was like, man, when I was in like high school, right? Yes. I think it's like 2012. I was like a school counselor.

Is that right? No, probably like 2013, 44, right? But I had like a similar job, right? Yeah. A camp counselor for the kids, right? So there was this like one kid, man, called a Skyler. Right? Now, Skylar was a kid where, you know, and he was, you know, like a hard-headed, knucklehead

the kid, but he was just cool, right? Right? You know, you know, like he's charming, he made jokes,

blah, blah, right? And, and like, we thought, you know, like, and everything, thing,

thing was good with the kid. You know, you know, like, and, and, and, like,

he was like 11, right? So, like, we thought everything was good with the kid,

you feel me? So then, like, you know, like camp is over. I went back to school. Wow. And then around, like, I'll say October, like we found out, yo.

He killed himself. Skylight took his own life because he was being bullied at school. See what I'm saying? And I'm like, yo, like, he's like the funny he is, like, it gets hard. You know, like the funniest kid, right? And we all used to the kid kid and Jones on him, you know, right? But when we, like, made it in front of him, it wasn't malicious, right? and it was like a back and forth

and like he understood that we loved him but to like find out man But there's a difference between love and bullying Yeah yeah of course There's a big difference Y'all y'all was joking with him out of love Yeah Him being bullied is definitely

There's no love there You know and and once again like I said Momentarily like who do he talk to Who do he express 11 years old Crazy living in fear But it goes on every day every day, even in households. You know, big brothers,

bully little brothers, you know, and have little brothers stressed out. Yeah. You know? I mean, bullying is real. Sometimes people, bigger, older brothers will be bullying and don't even realize they're bullying.

And then the kid go to school and take that out on somebody else. You know, I've learned that as well. You know, kids at home get bullied by their big brothers so they like they can't whoop their big brother so when they go to school they're going to pick on what you would consider the weakest link they're going to pick on them they're going to bully him oh i can't whip my brother but watch when i go to school tomorrow i'm gonna do this to such as such and they do that and they continue us to do it because it started feeling good to them

that's sick that sickness you know and it got to be fixed and it's time to start a stressing it straight out. No, like, is, you know, like, you know, and the biggest issue is, man, like, we don't know how to identify it, right? Like, like, you know, like, I mean, it's not hard. Not using you as an example, but you stand locked in your house all the time. That's a mental thing that you probably don't even recognize is a mental thing. You probably don't recognize it.

You want to know why? Because you're so accustomed to doing it. That's true. It's like normal to you. Mm-hmm. It's normal. You got to get out. You got to get out the house.

I'm telling you. Yeah, that's true. You really need to, love one. Yeah. You know what I mean? I know sometimes, let's just be totally honest right now. I know sometimes a little stress do be on you, right? It's definitely stress.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, because you probably feel like, you know, I'm, okay, I'm making good money. I'm a podcast. I'm doing what I'm doing, creating content. Yeah. But my life could be better. I could be doing a lot more with my life. Just like you said, if you take this away, then what do you have?

Yeah. Okay, you better create, you're 24. Mm-hmm. You better create something now. Mm-hmm. That is going to change the narratives on how you look at life. Yeah. Because you cannot stay barricaded in your home, loved one.

Man. You can't. I agree. I hope you understand that. I really hope you take. heat to it and get out a little bit, you know? It'll definitely change. And worry less about like, well, I don't want to go here because this can happen,

or I don't want to go over here. Because if you keep thinking that way, then you will never go nowhere. Then eventually it's like, who am I? Caged in. Caged in. And too much pressure, a bus of pipe. It'll build up, you know? Yeah, facts.

No, you know, I definitely agree, right? you know, and I definitely will work on that, right? You have to. Yeah, of course, of course, of course. And now, like, in terms of, you know, like the signs, right? Yes. So, so, so look. Well, that's a sign.

Of course. Your sign is, every time I've talked to you and I ask you, like, hey, flaco, what do you do, man, other than this? You're like, man, oh, gee, I'm at the house. I'm at the house. I'm at the house. I'm at the house. That, that, that, that, you get so accustomed to that. Because you don't want to go out into the world

because you don't want nothing to happen to you. You can't live in this world like that. Yeah, man. You really can't. Because you want to know why? Because there's been many times where bullets have went through walls of someone sitting in and home and killed them.

Absolutely. So you can't necessarily say, oh, something bad is going to happen if I go out there because it can happen anywhere. If it's going to happen, it's going to happen. Yeah, man. You know, like, I had a cousin too, right? Mm-hmm.

and called Kula Palima. Okay. Now, it was the exact same sign, right? So Kula was somebody who was, like, really outgoing. I'm talking about outgoing, blah, blah. And then after a while, she started to just stay in the crib. Right? Something happened.

Yeah. But, like, to this day, like, we don't know, right? But then, you know, so there's something really unfortunate happened. So I woke up one day. I'm checking. like, you know, calls, text, but it's just Facebook getting mad, like, mad, like, article sent to me, right?

I'm going to show you. Wow. About your cousin. Yeah. And, and, like, and, like, those, like, articles was, was, yo, like, she just killed her newborn and her, and her step, and her stepson. But the newborn was like three months old.

Oh, wow. And then the stepson was four years old. Wow. Right? And she killed them, so she drowned them both. And then called the police and said, I just killed my kids. Right? Right.

So they came arrest her, right? Yeah, yeah. But then guess what? She got out. Two years later. She killed herself. No, no, no. she got found like not guilty on like

insanity. Yeah? Yeah, right? Insanity. Okay, yes. Right? So it's really like fucked up is but the judge says every year, right, she's going to come back and they're going to deem her if she now safe enough to go back in. Psychic evaluation to see if she's mentally there. If they could go ahead and put her in the action.

She was jail, so she's in the mental hospital. Yeah, right? And, yo, here. And, like, it was so, like, first drink, I'm like, yo, like, she killed. That's sad, man. Yeah, that's definitely sad. Okay, this is the article. You feel me?

Wow. You want to know what's crazy? I've seen this online before. Yeah. You feel me? Wow. Right? And that's your people's.

Cool it, man. Right. So to this day, man. That's your blood. cousin. First cousin? Blood, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, so like it's my dad people, right? So, like, have like mental things, like, run through your family?

I was like, you know, I say sometimes, you know, genetics. Yeah. You know, being genetics, you know, like high blood pressure or things like that, you know, so what you say, you have a few family members in the family that, like, have experienced, like, mental things? I would say, like, definitely her, like. She's the only one? I wouldn't really like talk like that, right? Mm-hmm.

Right. You know, so like, you know, like with like my family, like, like, we really only like. So y'all kind of separate from each other? Yeah. Y'all don't never hang out at birthday parties, nothing? And we have like reunions probably like once a year. Okay. But other than that, like we probably much, you know, are just doing our own things, you feel

me? Okay. And then come to-distance. Do you ever, do you ever yourself experience like mental things going on here and there? Nah, man. No? No. You're good? Okay.

Yeah, right. Now, I mean, like, I feel like me. You're just going to say not right now, but in the past? No, no, not. Like, so I feel like it's just stressed right more than anything, right? So you have a lot of stress on you? Yeah, right, because, like, I pay, like, my mom bills, you feel of me? But that shouldn't be stress.

Your mother brought you into this world. Your mother took care of you. It had not been for your mother bringing you into this world, you wouldn't be sitting here on this couch. But you say it's stressful? Right? Yes. It's being like the breadwinner now For like my family, right?

Okay Like, for example If there's like a funeral They call me They calling you Birthday party They calling you Right

A graduation Yeah we need Right So being for the breadwinner I now know yo You take on a lot of responsibilities Right Right

And it's stress Yeah like But like It's like It's like I don't like mind that though right because it's kind of like, yo. Your mom would do it for you, right?

Yeah, yeah, you feel. And the people that you do stuff for would do it for you, right? Outside of my mom, probably not, no. No? Okay. Cousins are like, listen, right? So, look, right? So, like, my high school, listen, right?

So, like, my, like, high school graduation, right? Yes. Um, I think that year, like, my dad, like, had to go back to after, right? Okay. He's still out there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? Right, right? So for my high school-

He was on a visa or he just No, no, no, no. He just left. Yeah, right. He just went back, right? Okay. And, and, like, he tried to, like, come back, like, that year, right?

But, right? They wouldn't let him. It took too long, right? Okay. Right? Okay. So, for my high school graduation, my parents were in here, right?

So, I'm here, right? So, like, my brother- You graduated where? Out here? Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no. Like, and what, South Dakota? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Yeah, right. So for my graduation, it was my big brother. Okay. And then, like, my best friend came, right? Okay. So two people came, right? So my entire family, who are like, not like my, you know, right? But my cousins, auntie la, blah, right?

Yes. And they didn't come, but, but those same people are the first ones to, you know, you know. To ask. You feel me? So what you say? hold the grudge with them because they didn't come? It's a definite grudge. It's a definite grudge.

Did you ever ask them like, hey, you'll never bring it up? You'll never bring it up to them? No. Why not? Why not express that? Yeah. Why not let it out? I should, yeah.

I mean, you should. I mean, you've been holding, how long it's been? You graduated, when? 2016. 2016, we're in 2022. Yeah. headed to 23 and you've been holding the grudge. So when you give, when you help them after you help them,

then it's like you feel some kind of way after doing it. Like I shouldn't do this, but I got a good heart. I'm going to do it. But in the back of your mind, you're like, man, y'all, y'all didn't cut of my graduation. Like, why should I look out for y'all? Yeah, man. So why you don't never express that?

Why you don't never say, you know what? I'm going to do this, but to be real with you all this time since my graduation, man, I've been holding a grudge with you. You need to let them know. Like whoever it is. Remember you was talking about you want to get everybody together? You know, we're going to bring that. No, yeah.

Yeah, but we're not going to do that. You're not at the hood affiliated. But why don't you just go and throw something for the family, you know what I mean? Make sure everybody's there and express yourself. Yeah. Let it out. Yeah. Or if you're not going to do it that way, let it out individually.

Express yourself. So would you say that it still bothers you? you to this day because you felt like they didn't care? Like, it only bothers me when they call me, like asking for money. So why are you not, yeah, you got let it out. Are there other things

other than just them not coming to graduation that you hold in the grudge with them about? Nah, man. It's just strictly that. Yeah, like, like, it's kind of like, like, when y'all had, like, no clue that I was going to make it, nobody, you know.

They never supported you. Yeah. Well, a lot of your support, especially, one thing I've learned, a lot of support is going to come from strangers. Absolutely. The majority of your support is going to come from strangers. You're going to have those chosen few family members that's going to support you generally. You know, they're going to really be in your corner, like, for real, rooting for you.

Absolutely. But then you have those family members that, doubt you that don't care, oh, you ain't fin to do nothing. And then you have them family members that's sitting at the edge right there, you know, waiting for the crumb to fall off the table. Because they're like, okay,

soon as you make it, I knew you was going to do it, man. I think I've been supporting you for the longest. We up. We on. But you have to let them know how you feel. Yeah, man. Because I can tell, man, you got stress going on inside of you,

that you need to let out. And I can tell from, you know, I mean, your face expressions, you know, and I never went to school for therapy or anything, you know, but it just, I read people, you know, it's like a gift that I had, but you need to express yourself, you need to let it out, love one. Don't keep it built up. Let them know, like, let them know. Or just be like, you know what, I feel some kind of way. Stop asking me for anything. It's either you let them know how you feel or tell them to stop hitting you up. Like, go get a job. I'm just saying. Yeah, of course. I'm just saying, like, you're the bread winner. You're the guy with the bread. You're winning. They want to win with you.

It's just Africans, man, right? They have, like, they have, like, a village mindset of, like, you know, the village, like, race the kid. So we are all entitled to, right? Entitled. Entitled. Okay. They feel entitled. Yeah, but.

We ain't got it. You got it. Right. But do you feel they would, if, let's say you didn't have it. None of this, none of this was going on in your life. And let's, any one of your family members, your cousin, whoever. Yeah. And they was flaco.

They was you. And you reached out to them. 100% honest God truth. Do you feel like they would do for you if you needed them? My cousins, no brothers, yes. Your cousins, no. No, hell no. But your brother, definitely.

Yeah. How many brothers you got? Damn. Village. Village. Never mind. You lost count. No, not.

So let's see. Ruto or David? 19, 22, 1, 22, 23, 24. Yeah, right. Look, right? So, look. For real? No, no, no, no.

No. No. No, right? Now, look, so it is four brothers. Okay. And then there's one that's a newborn that, like, we're, you know, that my dad don't know. You're all?

You're still trying to figure it out right now. Yeah. Yeah. What is it called? Ancestry. You're going to have to get the little... You got to see about the family tree, huh? Yeah, right?

Okay. So, yeah, so, yeah, so four brothers, potentially five. Okay, okay, right? So your brothers, hands down, when they reach out to you, you feel good about helping them. Oh, yeah, yeah, right, yeah. But when your cousins reach out to you, you're like, I don't even want to take this call.

Yeah, bro. Not like, and like, for a lot of my family, right? Like, I have no, again, like, I have no problem to help it, Understood. Like, you know, but, like, for example, right? My brother, right? Yeah. And he built, like, the back system for how, like, I do, like, my work and shit, like, right?

Oh, the back end. Yeah. Okay. Computers. Right? Okay. So, like, right, you know, so, like, he can get, like, whatever he wants because he has made himself useful, right? So where I, I didn't know how to build.

And he do. Yeah, right? So, okay. He, he's not entitled. he's earned it. Yes. Okay. But everybody else, they feel entitled.

Yo, man, definitely. Like, the cousin's aunties, his uncle's entitled, right? But you've been... What if you tell them you ain't got it? They probably, like... You every name in the book, huh? You ain't shit. Yeah, they will call...

You funny. You changed. Yeah, they will call my mama and say, oh, I called your son and asked for money, and he said, no, right? Like... And then what's your mom going to call you and tell you?

send it to them? Yes. For real? Yeah, man. And if you don't, then you... Wow. Yo. I see why you got a little stress on you, man.

You got a lot of octopus arms reaching out to you, huh? Man, bro. Bro, like, those people will guilt trip the fuck out of her. You said it right, but... I see why you want to change your number. I'm telling you, man. Your mom's going to give it to everybody if you change your number because you got to give it to her. I know.

So she's going to hand that bad boy out. Like names in the hat. Here, pick one. I know, right? Right, so, like, I'm changing it to a L.A. number pretty soon, you know, like, probably that's weird. That ain't going to stop there from X. Oh, I can't call that number. It's the L.A. number.

I'm scared. Oh, man. Right? You've been, though, like, rich and a famous for, like, a long time, right? So how do you, like, deal with, you know, the, you know, the, you know. Well, I used to be one of those. persons that looked out for everybody

until they do some fuck shit got to you know I'm always give a person enough rope to hang yourself you know like that's this it family you kind of like sometime man you gotta kind of like

pick through things like weeds you know in order to get to the grass you got to pick the weeds you know because people have felt entitled you know because they and my thing is this a lot of people people, they didn't get out there and do that footwork with me.

So nobody should feel entitled. Exactly. Because when I got out and I did this footwork to get where I'm at, if I look to my left and to my right, I may have seen a chosen few, you know? And I've always been at one with tunnel vision, you know? So you just got to know, you got to make people earn it Instead of just giving it.

Like you say, your brother, he does the back end for you. So he's earned, you got to make him earn it, man. Other than that, people would drain you. They would drain you. Especially. You want to know how you can find out if somebody really got love for you, tell them no. They're going to change up on you. And they're going to say, you change, you acting funny.

Oh, he owns some funny shit. He acted funny. He changed. He better than everybody. Tell them no. You want to see who really, you're going to see who really. Fuck with you Who's really family to you?

I'm dead ass Yeah, tell them no Tell them no Man, I ain't even got it All right They don't get off the phone with you quick Super fast Yeah, ding ding ding

Then you got those ones That hit you up And be like, man Can you shoot me this Or can you spot me this? I'm like goddamn My motherfucker don't even say How you doing, how you been

Like your health good How the kids How the grandkids Them thirsty They thirsty You know Then you got people that's only going to call you when they need something, family.

They ain't going to pick their phone up no other time. You know, just like, I'm serious, just like me, man. It's a trip. It's funny to me, but I'm a Leo. You know what I mean? I can see through the bullshit from a mile away. Episode one, OG suicide in the building dropped. I started getting phone calls.

I started getting messages. People started following me back on Instagram. It was funny to me. started laughing and then I started getting phone calls man what you've been up to oh gee like man what's been up with you I said check this out look

we're not gonna do this family don't fucking play games with me my nigga you've seen you seen the shit on YouTube right yeah yeah yeah man I just watched it click nigga fuck you I know right I'm dead ass my nigga don't don't play with me don't play with me I ain't with none

of that yeah that's crazy yeah but but it happens when people see you in that certain light and like I said I haven't had this number 17 years so and then

damn man it's just still work you know but that's this life family no know who's who man I got just a chosen fuel that I keep around me other than that I don't go past that loved one I deal with people from a distance I got people I see I won't even shake

their hand Oh like this beef No beef I I'm not gonna Fake it. If I'm fuck with you, I'm fuck with you. I'm not shaking your hand. We ain't fin to do that fake handshake shit.

Oh, what's up? Oh, I'm all, man. I miss you, man. How you been? We ain't doing none of that. We ain't doing none of that. Stay over there. I'm going to still be here.

Man, man. Listen, listen, it'd be like that, though, right? Listen, because, like, and they probably seen, damn, man, like his podcast doing numbers. But they've been seeing me doing things for years. Groundworky, for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like this.

Yeah. You know? So it definitely, it's here now. Yeah. And this right here, it just enhanced it. And my whole thing, I got people trying to flood me with music and I keep telling them I'm not, I got artists already. You know, I got artists. I'm not looking for music.

I'm looking to give advice to help somebody get through something. So it's like they're trying to force something on me and that's not what I'm doing this for. You know, I'm doing this for a purpose and a call. and that's what I'm going to stick to. OG Suicide in the building, episode three with my family Flacco. No, four, right? Is it episode four?

Episode three with my family Flaco. Let's go. I'm OG Suicide. Peace.