No Jumper - OG Cuicide Takes Calls From The Fans
Episode Date: November 8, 2022Joe Coscarelli talks about getting access to the QC empire, and tells a very interesting story about the label and their artists. His book “Rap Capital : An Atlanta Story”is out now. ---- 00:00 I...ntro 0:53 - How he got the idea to cover Atlanta hip hop artist surrounding QC label 6:48 - How Atlanta continues to churn out rap stars that are originally street legends, Lil Baby, Jeezy, BMF 9:02 - Migos regenerating so many different times, surviving the “Drake hype wave” after “Versace” 10:30 - Migos being like legendary group “The Ramones” staying to their sound, putting out so much good music in the last 10 yrs 12:55 - QC being overlooked for how stable they’ve been, putting out Migos, Yatchy, Lil Baby, City Girls 14:16 - Working for The NY Times, Doing stories on Yatchy, Migos, Offset etc before doing book on Lil Baby 19:03 - Being like a fly on the wall around Artist like Marlo, Migos, Lil Baby etc. showing he’s interested and engaged in the culture 23:33 - Marlo confiding in his father about k*lling a man, Marlo being k*lled, his father not being ashamed of his son 26:32 - The stories of these artist being like Greek tragedies and mafia stories that people love like The Godfather 27:46 - Letting the facts speak for themselves, not being interested in wether rap music is good or bad for the world, letting people speak for themselves 29:08 - Lil Baby’s mom being a huge reason the focus was on him for book, Baby being very smart 30:08 - Seeing P pull out a big stack of cash out of Lil Baby’s pocket and telling Joe the money Baby can make in the streets was why he was so reluctant to believe in music 32:08 - Drake telling DJ Drama that Migos is going to be big before Drake even met them 48:43 - “On to the next one” culture, their being so much choice right now, not seeing superstars like we used to 50:48 - Most people stop absorbing new music by the time their 25 or have a kid, people listening to older music more than new music 53:54 - Adam on not seeing Ice Spice blowing up his first time seeing her 59:20 - Not chasing a hit but building a sustainable loyal fanbase, Curren$y being one of the most impressive at it in our life time, The world still being ready for Lil B 1:03:57 - Wanting to write crime stories, 1090 Jake being great at what he does, being like Americas Most Wanted of this generation 1:08:22 - Guys like Trap Lore Ross & 1090 Jake doing more work than actual journalist 1:09:22 - “Rap Capital : An Atlanta Story” out now anywhere books are sold --- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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What's good, everybody?
This is episode four of OG suicide in the building.
I got my co-host today, Dre Hill, in the building with me.
We're going to get started.
Let's go, y'all.
I hope everybody has been watching episode one, episode two.
Definitely, you know, learning from it, getting, man, information, you know,
that can pretty much help you through whatever the situation is, whatever you're going through.
taking a few calls today, definitely anyone that want to call into the show, please make sure
you inbox me on my IG or you can text me on my phone.
I want you to start calling into the show.
That's what OG suicide in the building is about calling into the show, getting one-on-one
conversations, embracing my loved ones that's actually going through something that either
having a bad day, depression, stress, whatever the case may be.
So make sure y'all stay doing that.
And also don't forget, make sure you go get your OG Suicide in the Building merch on my site,
OG Suicide in the Building.com.
Make sure you go get your shirts.
Make sure you go get your hats.
Stay locked in, man.
Stay locked in.
More episodes coming, live shows coming.
this is definitely it.
Neff, what's going on with you, man?
Man, it's crazy to see you in action.
I mean, you know, it's been a long time coming.
Oh, yeah.
I was right there from the jump.
It's crazy, man, from the old building.
Walking in and out with you from the old building,
it's crazy to see how far you came.
Oh, yeah.
Congratulations, huh?
I appreciate it.
Never give up.
That's the key thing, man, never give up.
You're the definition of it.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And looking forward to being the face.
never give up.
Oh, yeah.
You know?
And also, you too, man, you know, keep up to good work.
You know, that you're doing with the music, same with my son, little side, my bro, Izzy, you know,
like, man, on track music, K-O as the ANR.
Yes, sir.
We're going to keep things moving.
We're going to keep things going, definitely.
Going crazy.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
And, you know, what I do love about, you know, me doing this show, man, is me being a suicide
survivor, man, just knowing what it's like, you know.
been experimenting just difficulties in life,
struggles in life, and just going through stuff.
And one key thing, man, when you go into something
is that everyone asks their self is how do I get out of it?
Right.
You know, and what I've learned sometime,
you can't find no one to pull you out of a situation.
You know, sometime, man, it's what I've learned.
Sometimes it's almost like you've got to jump out your body,
body in and pull yourself out, you know, to find something.
Instead of something more, you just got yourself sometimes.
Yes.
And you find that something.
Yeah, yeah, and it's important, you know.
It's very important.
Definitely, man, we got a few phone calls coming in and we're going to get going, man.
We're going to get going.
I spoke last on episode two about a gentleman that is in a wheelchair.
I got him calling in today, Diego.
And he's going to be calling in.
And I linked him with someone that seen the show
that had been in a wheelchair for 15 years.
See, that's crazy.
You know, it's like I can only give him so much advice.
But when the gentleman, you know,
he's seen the show and he called the end,
he pretty much reached out to me and was like,
man, I've seen the show and, you know,
I've seen the advice you gave.
You know, the gentleman,
Well, I seen you spoke about the gentleman in the wheelchair that was supposed to have called in that day, but they both will be calling in today.
That's cool. That's cool. They're both in that same.
Yes. And he's been in there for, you know, two months, and he's been in a wheelchair for 15 years.
Oh, yeah.
He definitely can give him. Yeah. All the advice in the world that pretty much he would be the best candidate for that.
Oh, yeah. Definitely.
Yes, sir. That's cool.
Yeah, it's here.
Ringer is,
yeah, episode one, man,
a lot of people,
they loving it,
episode two,
you know,
they loving it.
Oh, yeah.
Can't wait.
Like, going good.
Going good, you know.
The one with me and Flacco,
looking forward to that one.
You know,
that's definitely a two-hour show.
So that's going to be different.
Oh, yeah.
You got Flacco to open up.
Oh, yeah.
Definitely.
You know,
he spoke about some things
that, you know,
he had been going,
through because every day man somebody's going through something everybody human everyone is human
and not everyone want to talk about it you know but man it's better to open up than to just hold it in
you know for real always better to open up it's a it's a relief once you let it off your chest
oh yeah always man definitely let's see this gentleman right here okay say hey family how you doing this is oj
suicide, man, OG suicide in the building family. How you doing? Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely.
We're going to take it one day at a time, man. And, you know, I'm glad, you know what I mean,
you tapped in with me, man, to come on the show and, and let's just talk about, you know,
let's start from the day you reached out to me when you was going through it, like when you
reached out to me, you was, you was homeless at the time. It was, you, you really had a lot going on
on your mind, you know, a bad experience at the time, man.
Let's start from there and let's move forward.
Talk to me about that day you reached out to me.
How was you feeling?
I mean, to even, to even, like, make it sound even better
or make it even put it on a better note.
Like, we had tapped in years before on a good note.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes.
About your magazine that you had, you know what I'm saying?
Yes, I still have it.
Yes.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
That set the tone on our relationship.
first of all on how you were like an OG, you know what I'm saying, all of that.
Yes.
So, and to fast forward, and when I got to my times, man,
my mind was going a million times, million, million times, you know what I'm saying?
Yes.
Man, bro, I didn't know what was going on.
Yes, I remember.
Yes, go right here.
When we had our conversation, man, I feel like you slowed me down,
put me at a good pace
you know what I'm saying?
Okay
And like I said
I wanted to go off the edge with it for real
I mean I told you about the family that I was
connected with that basically wasn't really trying to hear nothing I was saying
Yes yes
That helped me break ties with that
Because what you said was basically like yeah you got to get rid of that
You got to get away from that
I mean because my thing is
I mean if if you're around these
You know if you're around people
and their best interest is not for you, then, you know, what was the purpose, you know?
Exactly.
Like, you know, you mentioned, I don't want to say their name, but you mentioned some important people.
And these important people was watching you struggle and you was around them and you was faithfully, around them.
You was faithfully showing your loyalty to them, but there was no loyalty being shown to you.
Exactly.
Abusing myself, basically.
Abusing yourself.
I don't know if it was like if it was a starstruck thing.
I'm not trying to hypothetically speak.
So what it was basically was, you know, people, I mean, like everybody praising money these days, man.
And them knowing that I didn't have family and friends.
Yes, they took advantage of it.
Yeah, I'm from across the country, man.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
So they basically was hanging them words over my head.
Like, look, these words is here, but go and do this for me.
Go and do this for a bit.
Yeah, you was running around.
You became the Aaron guy.
Man, and when I needed to just talk, I didn't need no money.
I don't want, I didn't want no money from nobody, you know what I'm saying?
Just a conversation.
Just a conversation of a direction, guidance, bro, like, and literally I knew them for about good,
all and off eight years.
Oh, wow.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that.
You know what I'm saying?
And it was crazy.
And they were a family of therapists, you know what I'm saying?
And them people are supposed to be talking.
Wait, let me stop you right there real quick.
Yeah.
They were a family of therapists.
Credit therapists.
So this is what they, let's say, they're certified in.
They have degrees in therapy as a therapist.
Yeah, man.
And you couldn't even get a conversation.
Not one, bro.
Like, when I, after we ever had talking to you,
I talked to them and was like, yo, can you?
tell me one time we had a conversation.
One time we had a good conversation,
I decided to meet slave them for y'all.
Wow.
She hung up the phone.
She hung up the phone?
Yeah, bro.
Yeah.
Wow.
And there's literally when your show,
your interview with Adam 22.
Yes.
Like a week later,
I'm sitting in my living room like, man,
what the heck am I about to do,
bro?
I'm seeing it with my two dogs that I got,
you know what I'm saying?
Thinking that this ain't my world, bro.
So I'm like, man,
I'm about to get rid of my world.
just start all over again.
I'm not just going to have to just end my life.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, wow.
What the heck is about to happen, bro?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Crying daily.
Mm-hmm.
And that interview pretty much it sparked you.
It put a spark in you.
It woke you up.
I'm telling you.
Like, I lost that interview fully.
I think I even rewind some of the parts.
Yes.
And then, you know, at the end of the interview,
my number.
Yeah.
And I remember you reaching out to me like it was yesterday.
and I had spoke to you previous times a few times,
and you had mentioned to me,
you know who you was working with,
and you was doing the barbering,
and everything seemed,
it seemed good at the time.
But then when I talked to you again,
when I answered the phone to talk to you,
it's like, it's like a vibe.
I could just feel it like your tone and your voice,
it just wasn't the same.
And you remember the first thing I was like,
man, what's wrong?
What's going on?
You're like, man, you're not going to,
believe this man but I'm homeless right now like I don't even feel like you know I I have a purpose
in the world anymore and you was ready to end it all that day like literally ready but what I tell
you I told you like take a deep breath first you know calm down and and and and look at life you know
let's change the narratives on how you were thinking at the time and and look at life for
for what it's worth, separate yourself from where you're not being appreciated, where it's not,
it's not uplifting you, it's not helping you.
And definitely, like I told you, giving up is definitely something that you don't want to do.
That's not what you want to do.
That's not going to be the smart move because tomorrow could be better days.
Man.
And if you would have gave up that day, then you wouldn't say.
see what you see now. How about now? You still want to give up?
Bro, I'm just talking, talking, helping other people, man.
And that's each one teach one. Yeah, for real. You know, each one teach one.
I tell people my story now and like, it's a dude that I, like, you look at him and think he like,
the hardest dude ever, you know what I'm saying, that I see daily. Yes. So him's my story,
he's looking at me trying to turn his, turn his body toward the other way toward me until I
want to see the tear coming down his face, bro. I'm like, bro, come on, man. That's
you're just cleaning your spirit right now, bro.
You ain't, you ain't had nothing for me, bro.
I'm there to cry every day in the shower.
Oh, yeah.
I let it out, bro.
I remember I used to cry in the rain when I was homeless,
and nobody knew I was crying because it was raining.
Exactly.
You know?
But that's the biggest thing, bro.
Like, we, this society is just, like,
we're trying to hold this, have this, this hard image up, man,
just for social media and people around us and trying to be hard.
man, it's not where it's that, bro.
We're killing ourselves and each other by doing that, bro.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
It's one of those things.
It's one of those things where it's like, who do you talk to?
Yeah, man.
You know, so you have to, you know, hold that mentality of, you know, that I'm strong mentality,
but in the back of your mind, it's like, I'm stressed out, I'm depressed.
Who do I talk to?
But I don't want to just talk to anybody because it's like,
who's going to understand me sincerely.
Everybody that don't understand is going to make you worse.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm just glad, man, I know it's a blessing.
I'm still here.
I know this is my calling.
You know what I'm doing.
And I want to thank you.
I personally sincerely want to thank you for picking up the phone and calling me.
Because that's one thing that I've learned that's, it's hard.
for people to do like, watch, I don't wanna pick up the phone
and be a burden.
I don't wanna bother him, he got, he got his own life,
he got his own everything.
But me personally, like, you're never a burden.
No one is a burden, you're not bothering me.
Like I said, I wanna thank you for picking up the phone,
calling me, and believing in what I told you,
because I'm definitely not gonna tell no one, nothing wrong.
I knew life would get better.
And like I told you that day,
I said, you can't really say when it's going to get better.
But if you're doing everything you're supposed to, every single day to improve your life,
I promise you and I gave you my word, it would get better.
Here we are today.
And remember, I told you that.
You got to want it.
You can't wait for it.
You got to want it.
And here we are today, you know what I mean, October to 26th.
And I'm on the phone with you.
And how was life?
and I'm living in Malibu right now
They got a yard
I got a job with benefits
I got a dentist
I got a orthodontist
I got a therapist
I got
Everything I need bro
I'm crying right now man
Real shit bro
Let them out
Let the tears out
Hey it's better to let it out
Love one than to hold it in
But guess what though
But guess what?
Let me tell you about the tears right now
Them are tears of joy
For real bro
Demeter's a joy.
Like, you happy.
Like, you went from a let me end it situation to a let me live situation.
Let me keep going.
Let me get out there.
And let me keep putting one foot in front of the other moving forward and going out to my dreams.
And that's what you did.
And look what I told you.
It'll get better.
Didn't I tell you to get better?
Man, for real, man.
It's all good.
out, man. This ain't no
nothing planned. This ain't no scripted shit.
No, not at all. I don't do scripted.
This real life.
You know how dogs
run off of their owners, bro? Yes.
I've been through so much to the point where my
dogs run through me, right? And they are now
like a therapy to other people now, bro.
See what I'm saying? It's a full circle type shit, bro.
So
it's unbelievable to me, man.
I just got to keep on pressure, man.
Yeah, I mean, look at you now.
Like, you know, what, three weeks
a month ago, it was, you know,
it was all bad.
You look, LLC, come on, man.
You have to be a testimony
to someone else.
And that's all I asked.
When I give advice to someone,
take that advice, believe in what I'm telling you,
and be a testimony.
And honestly, most of your,
our whole conversation,
it was 70% you listen it.
Yes.
And then 30% you talk it, bro.
Yes.
Because, I mean, you got to give an ear.
You know, that's the key thing.
When someone, you got to allow a person to vent.
Don't talk over them.
Let them get it out.
Let them say what they want to say.
Let them express what they want to express to you, love one.
And then once they finish, then you let them know how you feel.
and I do this by self-experience.
I know what it feels like to want to leave here by self-inflicted.
And now I know what it feels like, and I love it to want to live
and to want to encourage and inspire and motivate others to want to live.
Because every day above ground is a blessing.
And I'm going on this note, because I got a few more people calling in.
I want to thank you, like I said, for listening to me, for believing what I said to you.
because I knew it was real.
I knew it would get better.
But I'm going to tell you one thing.
And this is something you can live by.
This is a quote that was created by me, myself.
Okay.
A hospital, not the only thing with patients.
You can quote that.
Hey.
Thanks for calling in.
I appreciate you.
We'll talk again soon, family.
Love you, man.
Mandatory, mandatory.
Like you too, bro.
All right.
That's what it's about, you know?
That's crazy.
Real life.
That's crazy.
We're human.
You know, we're human.
Like, nobody's better than nobody.
We are human.
Right.
And that is, some people go to school, you know, to be therapists.
And a lot of times they don't end up helping, you know, the people that come to them for help.
You know, I used to have a psychiatrist, and I would go see my psychiatrist.
And, you know, I talk about my life.
or what I'm going through, what I'm experiencing, how I feel at the end of the session,
give me a prescription, all here, okay, take these.
And it's like, that's the first thing.
Where's the help?
Right.
Like, I come for help, like, not to talk, you know?
I come for help.
You can't pay for no ear.
Mm-mm.
You can't pay for no ear to let you vent.
No, I mean, you can't.
And with them, it was more like a medication thing.
Everyone think when a person is going through something, it's like the first thing they want to do is, you know, prescribe them medication.
Like that's really going to get them through it.
That's not going to get them through it, giving them some advice from self-experience.
Because one thing, another reason why I started doing this is I tried to volunteer before for like a suicide helpline.
And I, you know, I called them and was like, hey, how you doing?
and told them who I was and explained to them, you know, what happened, what I've been through
and what I stand for.
And I wanted to volunteer.
And they was like, well, you know, you can volunteer, but we're going to have to train you
first.
You know, it's going to be $150 per session.
You're going to need like three sessions for us to train you.
And I'm like, yeah.
And I'm like, what do you mean you need to train me?
Oh, yeah.
Well, you know, for the volunteer, I said, I'm self-experience.
I can train y'all.
I really know what these people feel like calling in.
And I asked the gentleman, I said, have you ever been through, like, depression or anything like that?
He's like, no, definitely, no, I haven't been through anything.
So how do-
He's trained to help other people with it?
Yeah, but he's, they're charging money to train to help other people.
And it's like, they're schooling for that?
Huh?
They're schooling for that, huh?
I mean, where they're making money off of it, you know?
It's crazy.
People that want to volunteer.
And then three sessions, you know, 100.
$150 a session.
Right.
And he's never experienced anything bad like that.
So it's like...
And it don't even help you.
Yeah.
Or like, what am I paying you for?
Right.
To get on the phone?
I'll just give out my own number.
Another time I called a news channel.
And same thing.
I told him who I was, you know,
and was like, how can I possibly get like a story out there to uplift people,
to inspire people, me being a.
a survivor.
And it was like, well, technically if it, it's not newsworthy and after it happens,
I'm like, what?
Like, what do you mean?
So y'all don't believe in people living?
So it's news to you.
Once a person commits suicide, then that's when y'all want the story.
Y'all don't want the story of live.
Y'all want the story of death.
Right.
Yeah.
That really true me out.
Yeah.
That's all they pump out.
They don't ever talk about.
about what's really going on. No. I feel like. Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't get over it. I was blown away.
So that was like a second time that really made me say, you know what? I'm just going to step up to the
plate, man. Like on the baseball field, man, and just really go for it and really start pushing
and pounding, never give up, you know. I got a record that I put out years ago called Never Give Up
and I used to get messages from, like, people in, like, Nigeria and Haiti.
And, you know, these countries, it's terrible.
Man, I can't imagine.
The living is bad, you know.
I can't imagine.
For them to reach out to me and tell me how my song inspires them
and make them want to live and encourages them that, you know, they're going to find a way.
Yeah.
Because especially, like, in Haiti and, and.
Nigeria, like, there's rich parts everywhere.
Of course.
Of course.
But these are people that's reaching out from, like, where it's bad.
It's quadripled poverty.
You know, they don't know where the next meal coming from, you know.
It's a young cat that, you know, I've spoken to many of times.
And sometime, man, he has to go to feed his family.
They have it out there in Nigeria,
where he got to go, like street fighting, you know, for money.
That's crazy.
Street fighting, for money.
Getting to it.
But if you don't win, you don't get the money.
So it's.
So, yeah, so you go home with nothing.
Yeah.
And I'm like, wow, like, that's deep.
That is.
That's crazy.
And that's one of the only things he knows of to get paid.
He can't get a job.
You know, there's really no work for them out there.
So he can't get a job.
And, you know, he reaches out to me on, you know, WhatsApp.
And when, you know, he showed me his family, man,
because not too long ago, his dad, his leg,
he had broke his leg in like three places.
And he was doing bad.
And when he showed me, like, where they live.
And it's like, wow, it really hurts, man, to see that.
Yeah.
You know, to see that, to see them living, like,
that and and their only hope is you know they they son which is he's 22 years old and he got to go
out there and and try to find you know money you know somehow some way out there grind yeah you know
many of times i've you know i've sent them money you know just just to help them you know because
a little bit out there would go a long way oh it's so much to be grateful for it really is it really is
It really is
Just even go home and lay in your own bed
Definitely
Definitely
I got somebody else calling
Yeah
Let me see real quick
Service right here
Trying to call back
Hello
Okay
I'm sure they'll call right back
Okay
But yeah that was
It was real
It was different to me
Just to see that
And Africa as well
you know, a lot of, have a lot of fans out there from that song, man.
That song really inspired a lot of people.
And it's a trip, too, because it came out in, like, 2011.
And to see it to this day, still helping people.
That's crazy.
Oh, yeah.
That's what kind of music we'd be in the studio making.
Oh, yeah.
Tell me that music they'll turn on forever.
It got to live forever.
That's the beautiful thing about music.
It is.
It really is.
It is.
Okay, hey, Diego, how you doing?
Okay, that's good, man.
That's good.
We're going to get our loved one on the call as well.
Day Q, we're going to get him on the call.
Hold on real quick, okay?
Hold on.
Okay, I know he's going to call here in a few minutes.
Oh, yeah, I think he's calling me right now.
Okay, bring him on.
Bring him in the call, please.
That's fine.
Yes, hello.
Yo, you're on the phone.
All right.
Okay, okay.
We got both of y'all on the phone?
Yep.
Yep.
Okay, that's good.
Okay, man, I want to thank y'all for calling in to O.G. suicide in the building.
I'm going to start first with Diego.
Yo.
We spoke, loved one.
You've seen the podcast, and you had reached out to me due to you had got shot and you were paralyzed.
And you reached out.
to me, love one, and we talk on the phone, and, you know, I try to give all the advice
in the world that I can to just uplift your spirits and to motivate you.
And then my show aired with me and AD, episode two of O.G. suicide in the building.
And Day Q.
Yeah, yes.
Day Q reached out to me, Diego, and he reached out to me.
He's seen the show and pretty much he was like, man, I would love to link with the young brother you mentioned that was going to call into the show.
And if it's any way possible, you can link with me because Diego, how long have you been in the chair of loved one?
Like seven months.
Seven months.
And Day Q, how long have you been in a chair, loved one?
About 15 years.
About 15 years.
So, you know, it's like, Diego, I know I can do.
give you a lot of advice, but Day Q could give you more advice than I can. I could definitely
talk to you, uplift you, give you motivation and encourage you, but I linked y'all too together
to come together, work together, man, and, you know, help each other.
Thank you. I appreciate you reaching out, loved one. I really do appreciate you reaching out
to me and stepping up to the plate, man.
to work with Diego, man, and for y'all to build.
So since that conversation, how have things been going?
Well, I mean, things have been going, like, better because, you know, I'm thinking more positive.
And I'm like, you know, like, to be honest, it just feels better to, like, you know,
talk to someone that's in the same situation, you know, because I'm young, like, nobody right now is, like, in my situation.
How old are you, Diego?
I just turned 19 in September.
September.
September, he's turned 19.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, thank you.
And how old are you family?
I'm 31.
31.
31.
31.
31.
I've seen a lot.
Definitely.
I've seen a lot in this year.
You know, and I want to just give out all to live in my can to, you know, a younger brother, Diego.
That's good, man.
That's good.
And the first day, you know, when I put y'all on the phone together, a three-way call, like, what is some of the conversation?
Because I set the phone down because I wanted y'all to just talk and build and bond, you know, and, you know, you to help a little bro, man, Diego.
Because, you know, he's going through it, you know.
He's going through it.
But I'm sure, man, you're going to give him the best advice in the world to help him, you know, man, still go after his dream, you know, regardless.
So, like, what was the conversation?
that y'all held that day?
Well, like, mainly, like, I would just, you know, it just, but, you know, I was just telling him my
situation, you know, we have the same exact story, basically, to be honest, like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, it was just, like, wow.
Like, it just, like, you know, it hit me different because it was like, we really were
talking about, like, you know, like, we both got hit in the side, you know, like, it just,
like.
Same exact spots.
We lost, literally lost the same organs.
We lost the same organs.
and got hit him the same part of the spine.
Wow.
Out in the streets?
Yeah, and it's just, it just walked because, like, you know, I reached out and then, you know, he reached out too, and it's just like the same story.
Just like the shit was meant to be.
I really appreciate it.
I mean, I appreciate, I appreciate you reaching out to me.
You know, that, I couldn't thank you enough, man, that you, you heard me speak, man.
and you felt what I was saying,
and it touched you enough to get on the phone
and reach out to me.
Thank you.
The same with you, love one.
I appreciate you when you seen, you know, the podcast,
and you reached out to me, man,
and I was able to, you know, connect y'all.
It means a lot, man, because, you know,
it's called, man, each one teach one,
and, you know, come together and help somebody.
It don't matter to color your skin or anything like that.
We are human, you know,
at the end of the day, man.
And you stepping up to the plate, reaching out,
willing to help little bro like that, man.
That's powerful.
You know, words can't explain that, you know?
Advocacy is everything, man.
You know, I wish I had somebody to kind of guide me through it.
You know, I had a few people that reached out,
but, you know, I felt like I couldn't really relate to them.
And I'm glad that I'm able to relate to the able, like, off the bat.
You know, I could help them, you know,
and give them wisdom because life isn't over.
It's just the beginning.
It's just done a little differently than we expected.
For sure.
And Diego, you do tattoos too, right?
Yeah, I've been tattooing for, like, a while.
You know, like, I've been, you know, drawing since, like, June and all.
Just, like, there's always been a thing, you know, I took a break after I got a shot,
but, like, it's always been my favorite.
Okay, okay.
You're pretty, you're gradually getting back into it?
A little, little, like, but it's just right now.
My trust is a little bit.
stuff so it's like okay okay okay okay so what's next man do y'all plan on um you know meeting up man
hanging out and you know networking you know yeah for sure right right now i'm working on a way to help
um i'm building a platform a web three platform and it's going to be very uh comprehensive and i'm
gonna figure out how we could link the web three community that i know together so we can raise some
money to help them out with therapy and robotics and whatnot for the near future to get them
back on the feet hopefully man well when you do love one make sure you get the information to me
I definitely will you know continuously man speak about it on the show um shout it out to the audience
man because you know help is important you know and that's one thing we yeah we it's lacking
a lot in the days of today is you know that that support and that you know that support and
that help, you know, a lot of people don't want to help nobody no more. And it's really,
it's a trip to me. But there is still people that will help, that will step up.
Absolutely. So definitely, man, I want to thank y'all, man, for calling in. And like I said,
this is a blessing that I was able to link y'all, man. You know, that was God, you know,
day cute. That was God, man, that had you watching the podcast.
that day, you know, and you reached out to me, and I was able to connect y'all, and now y'all
connected. And just like you said, you're getting ready to help out and help build, you know,
to where we could raise money to help Diego. And this is definitely not, you know, this,
this is nothing to where it's like, you know, degrading anyone or looking down on anyone.
It's a blessing, you know. That's what it is. It's a blessing. That's a blessing.
blessing. Diego, it's a blessing. And like I told you, Diego, call me anytime. You're definitely
not a burden. You know, like you said, oh, gee, I don't want to be a burden. And no, you're
definitely not a burden to me, loved one. I've been had this number 17 years and I give it out
for a reason. Yeah. You know? I mean, it's wonderful because, like, you know, a lot of people
do need help, you know, a lot of people, you know, especially, like, people who are just, like,
toughened up and just like, you know, guys, you know, we just don't want to speak on certain stuff.
But yes, that was great to have that platform to, you know, be able to.
Yes, I mean, it's important.
You know, this is my calling and I'm going to keep answering it, you know.
Definitely, man.
Thank you all for calling in.
I appreciate y'all.
I'm always a phone call away.
Man, y'all enjoy the rest of your day.
All right.
All right, family.
All right, y'all.
Thank you.
All right.
All right.
Once again, man, that's definitely what it's about, you know?
That's crazy.
They both got the same story.
Yes.
Yes.
That's crazy.
Yeah, different, you know, different age, but same story.
Same spot?
Yes.
That's crazy.
Yes.
Man.
Yes.
Yeah, that's God.
Definitely is.
Together.
You know, like I said, he reached out.
He's seen the show and wanted to reach out to me.
Man, yeah.
And I, and I.
I'm glad he did.
I'm definitely glad he did.
Okay, I got one other person here.
I want to return their call back.
Hey, Love One, how you doing, man?
This is OG suicide in the building, man.
Who's on the phone?
How you feeling?
This is Ferris.
Ferris, how you feeling, family?
How you doing?
I'm blessed.
Doing great.
How are you?
Man, I'm doing good.
I mean, I can't complain, you know?
Every day above ground is a blessing.
That's a fact.
You know, definitely.
Every day above ground is a blessing.
I want to tell you also, man, I'm glad you checked out the show.
And, you know, you seem something, man, that inspired you.
Sure did.
You know, when I first saw you, I think it was, man, a while back way, you'd been on there for like two years now or something.
Yeah.
Every Tuesday, OG suicide in the building faithfully.
And when you did the interview with Adam,
yes.
You know,
that hit different for me because I'm 34 years old.
Okay.
Born and raised in Chicago.
Okay.
You know, we go through some things.
So seeing an elder statesman like you who's been through plenty, many things.
Yes.
It gives us home.
For sure.
I appreciate it.
For show.
So, well,
But in Chicago, man, what is it that you do?
What are you doing?
Like, you know, like as far as in the community or whatnot?
So in the community, I'm always doing food drives.
Okay.
Toy drives.
Okay.
Any little charity that I can either come up with, my employees come up with,
or my customers come up with.
Okay.
What kind of company you have?
So I own gambling cafes
Okay
Okay
Okay
Which is it's it's mainly an Illinois thing
Okay
They're legal
Okay for sure
So let's go
Six slot machines
Okay
Okay
Well let's get back to the
You know the community
What you're doing in the community
Yeah you know
You always have to give back
Yes
You have to
So food drives
One thing
people they're always going to do is try to get over.
You know, people are always trying to get over, which is normal.
You know, I want to tell everybody, you know, people my age, younger, people are always trying
to get over from family to friends to anybody.
Do not let them persuade you and change you.
Yes.
Continue doing the right thing.
Yes, always.
Always give.
Because if you give, guess what?
You're probably never going to see it, but you feel better.
Yes.
If somebody ever comes and says, hey, what, you do?
You know what?
I gave this.
I never got it back, but it's cool.
At least I gave.
And that's how you count your blessings.
Yes, sir.
Definitely how you count your blessings, man.
How is life in Chicago right now?
Oh, man, it's getting colder.
It's that time of the year, huh?
Yeah.
You know, it's not as crazy as people.
As the media, as the media says.
It's not, but it is, but everywhere is crazy right now.
Yeah.
Well, actually, it's not the where it's about, it's the people.
You know, because without people, the world would just be a quiet place with no movement, with nothing.
So it's actually the people.
So Chicago right now is getting colder.
Winters coming, negative 50 degrees, five inches of snow.
Oh, wow.
stay in the house.
Yeah.
You know, when you're trying to make money,
you're trying to raise kids.
I have a seven-year-old daughter, three-old son.
Okay.
So I got to go and get it.
Mandatory, you have to.
I mean, it's all you right.
You know, nothing comes to a sleeper,
but a dream or a nightmare.
You know?
So I prefer the dream to go after the dream than anything.
Yeah, you know,
and I just want to tell people also,
I know there's people listening.
name like I'm married too I've been married for nine years now okay marriage isn't easy no definitely not
but if you have a good woman it still ain't easy but you know a good woman will always hold you down
yes so be good to her be good to your kids yes because man if you can have kids they they change my
whole world I was out here yes
because it's a lot of people in the world that can't have kids.
So definitely.
Yes.
You know, so and yeah, you know, adopt.
I tell people you can't have kids or you think you can.
The doctor said a lot of times don't believe the doctor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know someone that was told that before and they end up having kids and they have several.
They have several.
And adopting is good too because, you know, I once were the.
foster child that end up being adopted by my my the one of the only ladies that ever been a mother
you know to me you know there's a couple other people that's been a mother to me like my my godmother
charliene jackson and my my other godmother mama will you know that's been mothers to me um
people that i can definitely call that's been in my life you know but miss price that was
That was my everything.
You know, she, she went home to heaven in 92, and there's not a day that go by that I don't think about her, you know, like literally, like, because she's someone, man, that I used to could just go sit down with and have a real conversation.
And what was good about it is, you know, I would really, you know, express myself, you know, and I was, I was in the streets, you know, young in the streets.
and but I would, you know, tell her the real, right, right or wrong.
And Ms. Price would ride with me.
In the right or in the wrong, she would ride with me.
She'd be like, well, you know that's wrong, but, you know, like, you know, but learn from it.
You know, so definitely, you know, and go ahead.
I was going to say, you know, rest in paradise to her.
Yes, mandatory.
First and foremost.
Mandatory.
Because it's so hard to find good people.
Yes, she adopted me when I was 18 months.
You know, her home was a temporary foster home where they would take foster kids in.
Like, no matter what time of the day, what time of the night, if they got snatched from their household, their parents, they would bring them to her house and she would hold them into they figure out what's going on, where they're going to be going back to their parents or they're going to the system.
when she got me, she said she looked at me and, you know, I was bad.
You know, I was born a crack baby.
I had eczema over 90% of my body.
You know, I was rashed out the game.
I remember they used to tie socks on my hands just so I couldn't scratch because I used to scratch
until I bleed, you know, all over my body.
And that was my heart, man, like meant the world to me.
And I know she's looking at me now.
You know, even when I was in the hospital from my self-infliction,
I remember her grandson, Tweety, bringing her to the hospital to see me, you know, when this happened.
And I remember her standing over me, looking over me.
And when I woke up, you know, and she was crying.
And when I seen her face, man, I just instantly, you know, bust out into tears.
and I leaned up because I was laying back, so I leaned up and, you know, she hugged me and I hugged her, man.
And it seemed like her seeing me like that.
I'm glad that people told her that I was, I had got shot that it wasn't self-inflicted.
And because I know that would have really destroyed her.
But even I feel like it destroyed her too as well, just seeing me laying there, you know, shot in the head.
And a little bit after that, loved one, she, you know, she was battling, you know, cancer,
stomach cancer and Alzheimer's.
And she went home, man, and I was devastated.
And like I said, that was in 92, man.
I'm still devastated behind it.
But one thing for sure I have to do is keep her smiling.
And you're doing that.
Now you're doing it across the world.
Yes.
Yes, loved one.
It's important.
Thank you.
You know, you never know what somebody's going through.
And the reason, you know, I tell her especially, you know, she's resting in paradise because I have an employee.
Yes.
Who, his name is Roe, younger gentleman about 24 years old, good dude.
He was in foster care.
He bounced from house to house.
And he told me a story about six months ago.
He was a kid.
He was probably nine, ten years old.
He was pouring cereal.
And then he accidentally put salt instead of sugar on his corn flakes.
Mm-hmm.
And his foster mother made him eat that whole bowl of cereal full of salt.
Oh, wow.
Because he accidentally did that.
Yeah.
See, some foster homes, they have the kids for the money, not for the love.
see miss price loved everybody
you know she she she kept me for the love
yes she's different
yeah definitely yeah if i had done that she'd be like
pour that out and would have made me a you know fresh bowl so
so people you know have a heart out here and
I want to let you know what you're doing is touching
so many lives
definitely
and I appreciate Adam
for you know allowing
you know, this show, because Adam, you know, he's a visionary.
Yes, yes, he is.
Adam is a visionary for show.
And AD, my guy right there.
That's my nephew right there.
Yes.
Good man.
Yes.
Shout out to the whole, whole crewman over here, no jumper.
You know, everybody.
You know, shout out to everybody.
I see your following and I'm loving it.
Definitely, man, I want to tell you family, I appreciate you calling in.
Thank you.
you know help me help others keep spreading the word with the podcast sharing it pushing it
sending it to people man let's let's try to make a difference in the world one day at a time one
person at a time you know changing lives and saving lives that's my thing that's my model
you know it's all we can do let's step that at a time exactly appreciate you my phone is
always on family uh i definitely hit me anytime
Thanks for the call.
Absolutely.
All right.
Okay.
Definitely, man.
That's what it's about, you know?
That's what it's about, man.
Another one.
Yeah.
And then I remember you was telling me too, man.
And I know that, you know, you had broke your leg like nine different times.
And I know that was definitely stressed.
I know you was depressed.
Yeah, I was.
By that, you know, to be up on your feet, then to, you know, to break your leg.
then for it to happen that many times.
I don't know that kind of like it messed with your mental.
What was some of the times like,
well, pretty much that happened.
How would happen?
Well, it started in second grade.
I was playing soccer.
You're not allowed to wear cleats on the field.
Yes.
This little dude do wear cleats on the field.
So I get up and I'm playing, going crazy.
And sure enough, we collide and I get kicked
and broke both bones in my leg.
wobbling.
I went to go run
and took for it to
wobble out of place type
you feel me
and I noticed it was broke
I got carried to the office
but I wanted to
I was in second grade
He was in second grade
He was at school
Fifth grade
It's bigger than me
A fifth grade
He carried me
All the office
Oh wow
I'm like it's broke
And sure enough
I got told it was broke
I got cast it up
And I was on crutches
And it was like
Damn
I was on crutches
For how long
About six months?
About six, seven months
Yeah
It didn't take too long
for it to heal
so I broke it again.
How did that happen?
That happened on the jumpy slide.
I was up there with my uncle,
and I was already sitting, and he comes climbing,
and he was just going to go down.
I was sitting there with my legs out,
and he went to go jump and slide down,
and boom, crack that you can.
You know how the jumpers is hollow.
Yes, yes, you can hear it sound like a snap of a stick,
like just, ugh.
And yeah, it was just, I got a whole list, actually.
I'm going to run through real quick.
Yeah, for show.
Wow.
It was like nine or ten times.
Jump and slide.
Oh, so right after that, still no surgery, no nothing.
I got it wrapped back up in the cast.
So no surgery?
Six, seven months later, I get it back off and I go to school and I'm able to run again.
And I go to play kickball.
You know, kickball lives like the baseball?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
Boom, kicked it.
Wobble back out.
Yeah?
I guess it wasn't strong enough.
That's the third time already.
Like, you pretty much got on your, got active.
pretty much too soon before okay and then I slipped in the hallway I slipped back on it in the
hallway you know how the hallways have like not in the hallway the doorway the doorway yes not the
doorway be having a little thing right there so yeah yeah for the door yes yeah I slipped back on that
and fell and it snapped again snapped again you had to have surgery then or no um yeah actually
it was after that um after that work i got my first surgery and i got a plate in six
screws. So this is a lot of breaks and a lot of pain. You feel me? I'm already, at this point,
I'm used to it. I'm used to, at this point, I know how to run on crutches faster than you could
run. Wow. You feel me? Like, I'm cast it up. So after that surgery, I'm vibing, having fun,
and I'm back to it. It was like a year or two later, until I broke it again. I did a backflip
on a trampoline, came right back on the bar. And that's with a, with the plate. I brought,
broke the plate too.
Ooh.
So they, re-surgery.
Another surgery.
No, actually, my bone healed,
because I never went and got another surgery for that.
I left the bone heel, but the plate was still broken.
I had bone grow over the broke plate.
So my leg is messed up at that point.
And so, yeah, I kept going, kept going.
I was running into the backyard, going to get on my quad,
and it was muddy, slipped back on it, broke it again.
It's just at this point, you feel me,
It's weak.
It's a weak bone.
It's wraps.
It's glass.
Like, they say it's glass.
Oh.
Oh, wow.
And then from there on, I had stress fractures.
Like, stress fractures is when I'm playing sports, playing basketball.
It don't got to be no sudden boom broke.
You feel me?
It's just wobbling because it's already so messed up.
But before, so after the stress fractures, this is until now,
I have four screws, two on top and two on bottom and a big old rod.
And they're talking about another surgery
So I can go in and get another crazy robotic
RON Oh, they want you to have another surgery now?
Yeah, but it's about if I'm good
And which right now I feel good, so
Yeah, it don't make sense too much
Not right now at least so
I hope it stays good as I grow and get older, you feel me?
Yeah
We'll see
But yeah, in about seventh grade
So I broke it all the times
I was from second grade
to about junior year in high school.
I'm a year and a half out of high school.
Now, I'm 19.
I graduated 2020, so I'm good now.
But second grade, or no, seventh grade,
I got the information I could no longer play sports.
And so I was like, dang.
That right there, that's when depression started for me.
Like, straight up depression.
I was sad.
I didn't want to go to school.
I didn't want to do nothing.
Because I was like, I don't have no more hope.
My hope was basketball.
Like, I'm waiting for this leg to hill soccer ball.
You feel?
And sure enough, I got that information.
It was like, wow.
And so I told my mom, eighth grade came,
I was still sad watching all.
Everybody play basketball.
You feel me?
Whatever, whatever, I'm good.
I thug it out until ninth grade.
And I told my mom in ninth grade, I was like,
I'm not trying to go to high school.
I said, I don't want to go be around that.
I don't want to, I don't even want to see the jerseys.
That's how sad I was at this point.
You feel me?
I don't want to see the jersey.
I don't want to see my friends bawling.
I'm just, I'm cool.
Oh, wow.
I was mad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was depressed.
Yeah.
And so I got into rapping.
I got into freestyle and stuff in my room.
I started with my head, my headphones and my phone and just getting on the wires and spitting rhymes on this app called rap chat, just going crazy.
Yeah.
How many times was you in the hospital for it, though?
Every time.
Yeah.
About eight, nine times.
Well, like, what was the longest time you would say that, you would say that, you were, you?
you spent in the hospital, like,
after, like, during the times when you had surgery?
Four days.
Four days?
And then they let you out?
And then they let me out, yeah.
Yeah?
And that, oh, my goodness, you just bringing that up,
I could remember the pain when I woke up.
Yes.
I had a mask on.
This last surgery was during COVID.
I had a mask on, and I could barely breathe.
I was gasping for air.
I'm gasping.
I'm sleeping with the mask on.
Like, they're being weird about it, you feel me?
And so I was waking up.
So you had to keep it on.
I was waking up, taking the mask off, throwing up.
having to put the mask back on while I'm crying, you feel me, in pain.
Like, my mom sitting over there just watching me.
And it's like, and then my mom kept having to wake me up.
I was in so much pain, I guess my heart almost stopped beating.
Like, I was tripping, you feel me?
So my mom was shaking me to keep me awake.
It was hard.
Yeah, I remember I had a kidney stone before.
And, man, a kidney stone is pain that make you faint.
Yeah.
Because the pain is just so bad.
Yeah.
And then it'll start from right here and then wrap around to by your spine.
And I had a kidney stone twice.
And it's nothing like a leg break, you know what I mean?
But, man, to some of the...
Up here too?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
That's the worst pain.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They cut my bone in three sections.
They had to pull my bone apart to put this rod in because it was, I had, like I said,
I had bone grown over the plate.
Yeah.
They had to cut it all up and put it.
They took bone from my hip.
They did all kind of crazy procedure to put this rod in.
And they got the rod, and they said, if this mess up, it's either a crazy new rod or you go prosthetic.
Yeah?
I was like, wow.
And that's what they told me in seventh grade, too.
They was like, we don't know how many more times you can break it before you go prosthetic.
So that even made me more.
I'm scared.
Yeah, you spoke.
Nowadays, I ain't scared of that.
But seven grade, I'm like, what?
My toes gone?
I can't imagine.
So it would just be like, yeah.
From your, what, ankle down?
About my sin, from the, like, middle of my sin down.
Yeah, that they would have cut off?
Cut off.
Ooh.
And that was, like, some devastating news.
Yeah.
For damn, sure, to hear that, you know, to hear that.
And it affected me, of course, from second grade to junior year.
It affected me a lot.
I had to walk around in school with a big old, like, not only the cats with a brace on.
And so I would have to wear big giant shoes.
I was looking goofy at school with big giant D.C.s on.
That wasn't my swag.
Yeah, yeah.
I like Jordans and D. Roses.
Yeah, but.
I'm walking around with big D.C.
on so it could fit over to my leg brace, you feel me?
And I'm getting pointed at around school.
And what about a boot like that?
Oh, I had the boots, too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I had it all.
I felt like I was even in a wheelchair at one point for about a year and a half.
And I got cold.
I got cold with the wheelchair.
Yeah, because I couldn't walk.
They was like sit him down.
Get him off of his leg.
Put him in.
Take a break from the, off your leg for a while.
Now I realized that, but I thought I was messed up in a wheelchair, you feel
me?
And so that caused my right leg to get even a little skinnier than my left.
And so now, till this day, I don't even wear shorts.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, but I wouldn't, I mean, you're going to do what you want to do,
but I wouldn't let that stop me from wearing shorts.
I think it's a mind thing.
It's a mental thing.
Like, I mean, really, like, you went through something.
Right.
So that's...
My mom and my pop's something is like a battle wound.
Yeah, I mean, really.
Like, why not show it all?
I mean, yeah, why hide it, you know?
But you're going to do what you want to do.
So, definitely.
Well, I mean, that's good.
I mean, you still got your leg.
You can still stand on it.
Right.
I'm still performing on stages and living my dream.
It's crazy.
It's a good thing.
It's a key thing.
So, wow, that's definitely deep, man.
And pain is for real,
because I remember when I got hit with a 2-2-3 round,
you know, in my stomach.
Wow.
During the time, when I got hit, I didn't feel no pain at the end, I think, because I was more mad than anything when I got hit.
Yeah, the adrenaline was going.
You know, it was a lot going on.
And when I was at the hospital and they was getting ready to take me in surgery, which I had a six-hour surgery, I lost 25 pounds in surgery.
That's crazy.
I lost 25 pounds.
They put that off of you?
That's just what you lost.
Well, but they had to cut my intestines because when I got hit in the stomach, it ripped my intestines completely in half.
I had a surgeon that was from Iraq, a lady surgeon.
All she dealt with was AK shots.
That's crazy.
So they was able to, they cut off the bad side on this side, the bad side on this side,
and then they restitched it, you know, together and reconnected it because they said it would grow back.
But when I was getting ready to go to surgery,
that's when it seemed like the pain kicked in.
When I was on the block, no pain.
One of the hummys was out there, too.
He had got shot.
But like I said, laying right there for some strange reason,
right when it was time to go to surgery,
I never felt pain like that in my life.
It was like right when you had to relax.
Yeah, yeah, right when I had to relax,
I'm laying down.
They put me on the other bed getting ready to, you know, they put the IV in and, oh, it kicked in.
Did you lay down like this might be when I passed?
I mean, and that's really how I felt.
I really felt like it was over, you know.
I didn't know.
I really felt like it was over, man, and it really was a trip, you know.
And my son, you know, I've said this before.
My son was in the house, you know, when this happened as well.
and I had to go talk to my son,
not letting him know I was shot
because I didn't know if I was going to live.
You know, I had no idea.
I didn't know.
All I know is I'm hit.
I'm more angry than anything.
I get up, you know, because I was down.
I was down, actually, when I got hit by the bullet,
you know, because everybody had got down.
Yeah.
And I remember this feeling like, in my mind, I'm like, damn, I'm hit.
And all I could think about, man, was, you know, my son is in the house.
I had to get up, you know, and I went in the house, and I went to go talk to him and, you know,
let him know, like, man, everything is good.
You know, I didn't know if that was going to be my last time ever seeing my son.
That's crazy.
And then in that hospital, when I was getting ready to go into surgery, that pain, that
just came out of nowhere, like, man.
And, you know, I just, I blacked out.
You know, I was just out cold.
And I remember, you know, waking up.
And when I woke up, it was like, you know, the doctors was there.
And my surgeon had came in and talked to me.
And she pretty much had told me, like, your weight, it's a good thing that you had
weight on you.
Yeah.
Because if I didn't have the weight on me that I had, I would have died.
Yeah.
You know, but due to the weight that I had on me, it pretty much, it saved my life, which, like I said, I lost 25 pounds in surgery, had a six-hour surgery.
And, man, life is a trip, but, you know, life is amazing.
Life is important.
It is.
And that's the key thing, man, that I do this for.
That's what these podcasts is for, mine in particular, OG suicide in the building, to inspire people to want to live, to want to continue, to want to motivate people.
I want people to know, man, that what they're going through, they're not alone.
Right.
You know, definitely not alone.
And you can get through it.
Like the gentleman I spoke to earlier on the phone, man.
You know, he was homeless.
He was working with some people, some known people that had a lot of money, you know.
they didn't have no love for him.
And pretty much he ran errands all day for them,
you know, ran errands for them.
And, oh, here, go do this, go do this, go do this, go do that.
And when it came time to where it's like, man, I'm going through it right now.
Like, you know, y'all think I could sit down and talk to y'all.
Like he said, they was therapist.
Right.
That's crazy.
Y'all can run him around.
Yeah.
But this is your occupation.
And you mean to tell me what you're certified and have a degree?
agree in, you're not going to use it for the person that's doing all y'all, um, heart work.
You know.
He's around y'all a lot.
Yeah, he's around him.
He's at their house.
Pretty much he was at their house every day.
Yeah.
Running errands every day.
You know, I talked to him a few times and, you know, he had kind of spoke to me on who it was.
And I'm like, well, I don't really do the name drop thing.
I'm not impressed by that.
That's cool that you work in and then.
It's like the rug got pulled from under him.
and life changed.
And it didn't change for the better.
It changed for the worse.
And when he spoke to me again, it was like, wow.
Like, what happened?
And, you know, I remember he was, you know, he was crying on the phone.
And I was like, it's going to get better.
It's not going to stay like this.
But I'm like, let them tears out.
It's important.
If it's built up, stress is built up, don't be ashamed to let it out.
Let it out.
Relieve yourself.
You know, that's my whole thing.
I tell people to relieve yourself, man.
It's important, you know.
Man, sometime every blue moon, you know, I go through stuff.
You know what I mean?
I may be at a point to where I'll have a lot of, you know, stress on me, man,
and it's shed tears.
And I'm not ashamed to, you know, admit it.
Right.
I do it, you know.
It'd be so much that it's going on around my life to where it frustrates me
and aggravates me.
because I look at it like I'm at a point in life that I shouldn't be going through this.
I shouldn't be experiencing these things at this point and at this age of my life.
But I guess that's life.
That's life.
That's life.
That's how I look at it, you know.
And now, you know, I've shed tears and I've shared tears of joy.
You know, I go back and I sit and I watch the podcast.
And I normally watch, when I go back and look at the podcast, I watch it from a point of view of that's not me.
Yeah.
That I'm watching.
I'm listening.
That's not me.
That's not me that I'm watching.
And I'm looking at it from, you know, I wouldn't even say a consumer, but a person that need to be inspired, that need to be uplifted, that need to be motivated.
And I watch it and I sit there and I pay close attention.
to, you know, what I'm saying, and I look at it as like, wow, like, I can see why what I'm
saying is helping people.
Yeah.
You know?
Because sometimes I watch me to help me.
I don't know if that makes sense, but I watch me, and sometimes I have to take my own
advice.
Yeah, you got to go back and realize.
Yeah, I got to go back and take my own advice and wake me up sometimes.
and say, look, keep doing what you're doing.
Straight out.
You got this.
Stay focused.
Stay moving forward.
And things are going to get better.
It definitely will.
It definitely will.
I'm O.G. suicide, man.
You're watching O.G. Suicide in the Building.
Episode 4 with my Neff Dre Hill.
Yes, man.
Make sure y'all go get your merch.
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Go get your merch.
Hit me up.
I want people to call into the show.
Make sure y'all reach out to me.
Make sure y'all hit me up.
Inbox me.
Call me into the show if you have anything on your mind that you want to express.
So you're going through something.
Don't be shy.
Don't be scared.
You'll never be looked down on.
You can use an alias name.
You know, if you like, if you don't want nobody to know who you are calling in to the show.
But I got you.
straight out and always remember like I said earlier a quote that I want everybody to live by
and you can quote me a hospital not the only thing with patients peace
