No Jumper - OhGeesy on Shoreline Mafia Reuniting, The Nitrous Epidemic, Lefty Gunplay & More

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

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No jumper. We back with a legend. That's not alive, right? No, no. But we're recording. Yo, OGZ, in the building, man. I'm excited to have you in here, bro. You've been... I'll be here in a minute.

Yeah, man. We've been rocking since... I mean, we interviewed you in, like, 2017 with everybody. And now it's, like, crazy, honestly, to see you still going hard and still just like... Going harder than ever, I feel like... Yeah, is that how you feel? Yeah. Damn. Okay, so what has changed, though?

Because I feel like during that whole era, you were kind of living a... A very wild life, and as time goes by, I feel like I see you being really focused on your business and your money and whatnot. I'm just focused on my rap more than ever. And I'm just like, yeah, I'm just in tune with myself. I'm just more focused. And like, I got goals. I got real goals. I got a lot of goals I'm trying to accomplish.

Do you consider yourself a family man at this point? Are you still a young jit? Both. Y-N and family man. Yian on the weekends. Holy shit. No, but I mean, like even when I listen to the project, the new album and everything, that everybody should go check out, it's like I feel like I'm seeing a side of you that wants to continue to mature as a musician and like trying to make records that can really make sense on the radio and just for a wide variety of people. Whereas when I first seen you coming out, it was more just like straight street content.

And obviously you still got that. But it's definitely like I feel like you're just approaching things in a very more adult way. 100%. 100%. Like, when I first came in, I never wanted to be on the radio. I didn't have, like, I didn't want to get plaques. Like, I didn't care or know about none of that. Now as I'm, like, getting accolades, I want to keep achieving more and doing more and just keep winning.

Definitely. And I want to, like, spread my message and show everybody who I am, you know, so I want to reach broader audiences, like, different audiences. Yeah, it's crazy when you go back and listen to the oldest shoreline stuff before you guys really, like, found your sound and you guys were all on Suicide Boys' Be. and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's wild. Like 36 mafia type of shit. Yeah, exactly.

I was just in the studio with DJ Paul the other day. Oh, really? How'd you guys connect? He's been fucking with us since we came out. I think because he always knew like the influence he had on us.

Uh-huh. So like my first show in, in Memphis, he pulled up like... Really? That's dope. Yeah. He's like a real hip-hop

student still to this day. Like, I was still seeing a random events and shit. Yeah, I dropped the... I did my verse in it. We've known each other for years since, like, we came out. And I just, but yes, a few weeks ago was our first session, and I dropped the verse, and he was so excited.

Really? Yeah, I seen it with his face. He's like, yeah, that's a hard out of his verse. Do you still not punch in? Mm-mm. Really? No, the last two projects I was punching in, but this whole, I just, I did my project. It was no punching in, really.

And then, um, we just finished, we just completed the Shoreline Mafia album. Right. Sureline album. Because Phoenix has never really punched in either, right? No, he's a, he'd be punched in. He does now. He'd be punching now. Okay, because he didn't used to.

That was one thing I was shocked by going to the studio with you guys back in the day is like, oh shit, they just write their verse and just go in there and just do it one take. But he'd be punching in a lot. Okay. You feel like, like which one works better for you? Writing, for sure. Really? I don't know.

Yeah, writing, 100%. Because I feel like it has a different sound when you're punching in each bar, even if you write it in advance, because then you have, like, more breath for each bar. Yeah, for sure. You say it differently 100%. Yeah. But I feel like I'm learning how to put them two together, like, right? write it, but still swag it out, you feel me?

Like the whole Shoreline album, I wrote all my shit, and it was going crazy. For sure. So, okay, wait, with the Shoreline album, how did you approach that differently than how you would just approach a normal project? It's just, the vibe was just different, just being in the studio with the hummings.

Like, when I'm doing my solo project, I go to a studio, I treated like a real work day, you feel me? I'm in the studio. I don't have no one there. I'm focused. I got objectives over there. We were just freestyling, like, I'm, throwing that beat.

Definitely. Because from an outside of looking in... It felt like less pressure. Right. From an outsider looking in, I felt like you and Phoenix patched it up at a certain point, but it was mostly like from a business standpoint. Do you feel like as time's gone by, you guys have become more like friends like the old days?

Yeah. I feel like it wasn't really business because, I mean, we didn't even leave off like on a bad friendship. It was just like we just hadn't hung out, you feel me? So it's like reuniting and hanging out and it's just like, oh yeah, we missed this shit, you feel? Right. Yeah, because some of the wildest studio sessions I've ever seen in my life were definitely old Shortline Mafia sessions. Like, I would go into that shit. I remember walking into one. It was a whole extremely wide variety of different lean pints on the table. Like 10 pounds. I don't know what was about to happen with the 10 pounds. For sure, they weren't all getting smoked right there. You got like a fool getting tattooed right over here. A dude getting his haircut right over here. It'd be like 20 dudes stuffed in there. And then still somehow you guys wrote some of the biggest songs of your.

your career in that environment now i can't do that no more it's like i get too distracted so i'd be really training at like work but definitely working with phoenix is a whole different ball game than working by myself because i feel like he's still living a little bit more of that crazy lifestyle than you were yeah a little bit true or false a little bit yeah okay i'm just i'm just like too focused because it's like back in the old days like even when we're doing short line like i was just like nah this got to get done this got to get done this got to get done you feel me Mm-hmm. Definitely. Yeah.

But then I also feed a lot off of his energy. Like, he got that wild energy. Right. So it made it bring me back to, like, my old shit. That's why I feel like the shoreline shit sounds so fire. Right. Do you have regrets about, like, from my perspective, I feel like there was a little bit of momentum lost in the breakup or the period of time that you guys worked together.

Do you ever look back on that and be like, damn, I wish that I had, like, kept that thing rolling the whole time? Not really. I don't regret anything. And I feel like it helped me grow so much as a person. And they help him grow. Like it just, it was perfect. And I feel like bringing it back now is just all perfect on me. Definitely.

So, okay, on the project, just to continue discussing that, it feels like you tried a lot of different stuff. There's more like R&B vibes. There's like some, like a song with like a dude singing in Spanish and shit on the hook and everything. Yeah, yeah. And you just put out the video for that, right? Yeah, just right now. Don't make sure this shit uploads my bed.

No, literally. I saw it on my subscriber tab right before I came in here. Right now, my bed. but okay like what makes you want to go in a more expansive direction like that just from are you kind of do you feel like you're chasing hits and success or is that just a natural i'm not i'm not chasing hits i think it's natural and i think it's for me traveling the world and seeing so much different walks of life and stuff like the rn b stuff like i'm seeing like how girls react to like huncho or kaling and i'm like oh yeah i want i want to do some shit like that

i'm just like experimenting and it's working definitely it's working a lot yeah for sure that's one thing like I've been talking to Ray J recently and like when we're talking about R&B shit versus like street type music to him you could tell that he just considers the street type stuff of just like a very like it's just kind of immature in comparison because he knows how much more success you could potentially have with shit that could really hit the line and like as you get older you see that like the rest of the world it doesn't listen to that type of shit like that's why a lot of rap doesn't do as well as you think it does and I mean so much of the street stuff is just kind like design to only appeal to people who understand the references and what you're talking about

like that yeah for sure like a girl not going to understand anything i'll fucking say in the song right definitely but if i if i say it in like cute terms and on the rmb beach she's gonna be like yeah i get it definitely do you uh like i feel like you've always had that percentage of your fan base that is like the the girls who they treat you like a little bit of a heartthrob type character yeah yeah there you're still embracing that like is that still something that you're You like think about? I think it's getting crazier with the R&B shit. Really?

Yeah. Because there's definitely been shows of years that I went to over the years, too, where there was a large number of Hines in the front row screaming. And that was kind of shocking to be like, oh, they got like a fan base like that as well. Yeah, you do. They get it, you feel me? And especially being from Southern California, like, these girls can relate to a lot of shit. Like, we probably remind them of their boyfriends, they fucking uncles, their cousins,

you feel like, so they can relate. Right. Reflecting on why Shoreline made such a splash when you guys came out, though, what do you think it was? Because, like, you just kind of presented a different energy. I think, I think it was the fact that so many kids looked at us and all our homies are different ethnic groups. And they're like, y'all, that could be me, you feel me? It's not about, just about game banging, but it is like we still turn. Like, we just set like an example of what everyone could be and everybody and everybody could do it.

I feel like we look like a lot of everybody, for me. yeah because it's like i have conversations with dudes now where i realize how big that divide is between like chicano culture and like what a lot of people would kind of characterize as more like black culture and it is always kind of controversial like like people just kind of look at that a certain way and i feel like you sort of very much ushered in that archetype of just being like a young mexican dude in l.a who is who f*** everybody and is like very much involved with a lot of different scenes from the graffiti shit to the to the rapping shit when you look at that uh that that might you even conscious of that yeah for sure that might be that might be another reason why everyone

could relay and fuck with it because it's like i appeal to every different type of person definitely yeah and it's kind of wild to see like after all these years that still people always include you in the conversation about the top mexican rappers out of la you do you feel like that puts you in too much of a box though you feel like you should be considered just one of the top dudes period i feel like i'm the top mexican Mexican rapper, regardless, worldwide. Who else? Oh, so you're not even limiting yourself to L.A.

You're saying just in general. Yeah, it's no one else. I mean, there's something under me. Like, it's shout out the home music to me. Right. I'm number one. Definitely. If we were to go monthly listeners,

I think you would take it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm going based off of analytics. I'm not even going based off opinion. Right. Because you've been out for so long. Because I wouldn't call myself number one if it wasn't proven.

Right. Who's in the running? Like if you were to talk about who else belongs in the top five. I don't look at no one's numbers, but definitely D-baby, Paiso, Fri-Brano. Like, I don't know who else. That's just off the top of my head right now. Do you think Lefty's making his way into that? Oh, yeah, Lefty's up there.

Yeah, shot out Lefty, yeah. Okay. Do you think he's trying to like, is he kind of like leapfrogging past the competition? Because I feel like he has so much Internet hype and people are so fascinated by him, but doesn't necessarily maybe have the biggest songs in comparison. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. I feel like Lefty has so much potential.

And I'd be telling him all the time. I'm like, bro, you got so much potential. All you got to do is lock in and focus. It's like, and I know he's at the start of his career, so that's the worst time to try to lock in and focus. Right. But, like, that's what I realized, like, growing up and getting rid of distractions,

that's what's making me better as an artist, better as a person. Like, you just got to get rid of all the extra noise, everything and just be by yourself for a minute. That's why I feel like the shoreline split was so perfect because we just got to like sit down and just really reflect on shit. So when you look at that, you look at that at the right time for that to have taken place. Yeah, for sure.

Because when it was when my son being bored and when life is moving so fast, it's really hard to reflect and fucking take everything in. Right. Definitely. Yeah, I mean, that was crazy watching that take place because you guys were all like living together at the time that you got signed and everything, right? And then I always, actually, I use you guys as an example sometimes when I'm talking to like younger groups and shit where I'm like, think about what happened with Shoreline

where they were all such. tight homies that they're living together. All of a sudden, they're getting money on a different level. What do they do? They all split off. They got spots with their girls and shit. And then, you know, that kind of creates like a natural amount of attention. You're just not living the exact same lifestyle at that point.

You're not living the same life. And you're just growing up. Like, everyone grows up. You've got to grow up. You're going to stay where you was up. Right. Definitely. I mean, it's like the transition from being like a, you know, I don't know if you mind me

saying this, but like a drug dealer to a rapper, like a full-time rapper. Even just that is such a huge transition in terms of your life. I was just saying it the other day, I'm like, bro, I went from kicking it with the hummys every day hanging out on the streets and living in the suburbs and, like, have nothing to do. I'm like, it's weird. It's hard to adjust for sure. You ever miss that energy that that kind of gave you, though? I mean, I feel like I have that energy because I'd be around, like, if I go to a club, I see everybody that's turned to. I'm like, I still got that energy.

But it's like there's... And it's in me. Like, it'll never go away, you feel me? Right, definitely. But I mean, like, when you think about the lifestyle you're living of like, you know, sneaking around, doing graffiti and selling dope and being in different neighborhoods all the time. I wouldn't, like, I wouldn't do that over, like, how I live, you feel me? Oh, yeah, for sure.

I love hanging out with my son and, like, let me do a normal shit. And I feel like that's what a lot of kids don't have, like, just healthy friendships. We all just, like, get together and do bullshit. Like, no one has healthy relationships with their homies, like, working out doing like cool shit like positive shit you feel me yeah definitely and as you get older it's like when you really look back at that time period it's like you you're friends you have friends but really you're like relying on each other for survival you know survival and everybody's getting high with each other so it's like fake friendships too like once you take the drugs out the equation

drugs and alcohol you like do i really like kicking it with this person especially if you're the dope man yeah if you're capable of supplying that creates an entirely different dynamic. Oh, God. Well, I'd never supply knowing anyone I fuck the... Oh, really? You were selling the drugs

that y'all weren't doing? No, I was selling drugs to other people. Right, yeah. Because you were never, like a Coke head or anything. Yeah. I was selling Coke.

I'd like to hear O'GZ Coke album, though. Like, me on Coke? Yeah. Nah. No, maybe like a monster energy album. Never. Yeah, well, then, I'd be drinking

like Yereba Mathe and shit and, like, that should be turning me up. Really? The caffeine? Yeah, like, a lot of... Some of the songs I make, like, I feel like I couldn't have that energy

I didn't drink some caffeine. Right. And I stay away from caffeine to them. It's just like days where I'm like, I have nothing to write and it really get my creative, like, going. Yeah, I worry about what the caffeine is doing to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I hardly drink caffeine. That's, like, that's like last, like, I'm like, y'all can't come up with nothing. Really? That's like, worst case in the area. I drink coffee. I wake up in the morning every day and drink coffee. Yeah, that's what I.

It would be very hard for me to imagine life without it. So I feel like you probably don't even do nothing to you. Like, you just, at this point, you're just drinking it. But then sometimes also I'll be sitting here doing an interview, You know, it's like, it's really, like, getting to me. Like, it's really taking a hold of me. Yeah, not for so. That shit is like a drug.

Mm, definitely. No, when I think about it, it's like, the younger version of No Jumper, obviously I always see people say, like, you know, No Jumper was the shit in 20, of course, yeah, 2016, 2017. And it's like, part of that is, it's like, oh, okay, you loved the version of me. There was, like, a younger dude who was really, like, in the clubs, a warehouse parties, like, running around, living a lifestyle that realistically probably would have got me caught up.

As time went by. And, like, living a life like that is just unsustainable. Like, you're going to crash out. So, one way or another. Yeah, because you've seen infinite people who had the sort of, like, momentum and hype that you guys had early on, but it eventually just kind of fizzled out. You're going to die.

You don't go to jail, something, you feel I mean? Right. It's just unsustainable. You got to get your shit together. Definitely. You're still with Atlantic after all these years? We just switched over to 300. Oh, really?

What made you want to switch that up? My managers really decided on it. It was, like, going back and forward with them. and then we just thought it was like switching. Like I feel like they never did what they were supposed to do, really. They're like fun with the bat, and we made them so much money. Really? And I think that's what it was.

I felt like we made them so much money and we didn't spend money. So it was just a perfect situation for them. Definitely. When you look back on that Shornland album that kind of came out, like, distinctly after your sort of initial wave. Like, I feel like you guys were damn near broken up by the time the album came out. When you look back at that, is it kind of a regretful project. Like it maybe didn't capture the energy that you guys had originally? I feel like it didn't capture it, but it still, I think that whole album might be gold.

Really? It still did with it. Like, we have a strong fan, baby. Really strong family. Definitely. Has there ever been a time where you kind of questioned that or, like, wondered, like, are they going to stick around as they get older and shit like that? No, not really.

I feel like we appeal to all types of ages, too. Like, at my shows, it would be kids and kids with their parents and it'd be, like, 40-year-olds. Like, it'd be everybody. That's crazy. Yeah. I feel like I'm like in the middle of all the generations. I'm like, perfect. No, yeah, definitely.

It feels like there's a weird appreciation for you that like just doesn't dissipate as time goes on. I feel like it's getting stronger and strong. And I'm seeing it. Like I was just telling my people as I was like, yeah, we went to the club the other day and it's just like, they love it. They love the new music. Like it's like everybody's growing with me. Definitely. My fans are growing up so they're understanding different references and they're seeing a life so it's different.

Yeah, and you got to appreciate that Because a lot of people don't necessarily Get that kind of leniency from their fans Like there's so many fans that seem like they With the hard, it's so hard And then they just move on Everyone has a lot of people Not everybody, a lot of people have such short attention spans now

Because of TikTok and Instagram It's like, you can't even pay attention to shit no one Does it feel like you're working two jobs At the same time by focusing on the shoreline shit As well as your solo career? Is there a balancing act? Not really. Between studio sessions, yeah, but between everything else, it's just natural.

It's organic because I feel like it just feeds off of each other. Definitely. But you guys are just going on like a crazy tour coming up, or what's the plan for that? We about to announce a bunch of shit after Coachella. Mm-hmm. We about to drop an album super soon. Really? And then we do Coachella and Coachella kickoff, like, all types of.

But you have a bunch of songs on the album that are like Shrella Mafia songs. Like, are those, like, songs that are just kind of early that are similar to what you'd be doing this album? That on my album? Yeah. It was just like, it was just, we just started working,

and it was like, it just happened to come out. Our hand was forced. We was gonna keep everything a secret until right now. And then, like, halfway through last year, Supreme hit us up.

And they're like, yeah, we want y'all both to model the Supreme Lookbook. And I'm like, well, we're not going to model the lookbook and not drop something and so we dropped T-stick. So it was like,

all right, fuck it, we're going to do it. And we wasn't going to turn down the Supreme Lookbook. That's like a dream come true. Yeah, that's crazy. Is that your first time doing anything for them officially? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wow. That's how I was like, all right, it's like a no brain. We're going to drop a song. So we dropped, like, heat stick. It was just one of the first songs we made. It's golden or now. It wasn't gold or any. That's fine.

No, that's wild. I mean, I feel like Supreme is just, like, one of the rarest cosines that a rapper can get. Like, if we were to list off all the rappers that have done Supreme campaigns over the years, it's like a very rare list. Very few. Yeah. And it was like, it was literally like a dream country.

Like, from camping out and for, wishing I could buy Supreme to modeling for Supreme was like, yeah, let's do it. You used to camp out fully? Yeah. Just to reset shit or because you actually wanted it? No, just because I wanted it. But just a few times because the people in line

pissed me off. It's its own world over there. Yeah, I'm like, what the fuck? And I was like, I'm a street nigga. Like, bro, I slap someone. Yeah. I got into arguments. Like, I try to beat someone up right there.

Yeah, I'm not doing this. I definitely, like, witness situations. And I'm talking like this is still going on because obviously that line has moved off Fairfax at this point. But, like, there was definitely times where we had people going, like, kind of filming that line

and you realize, like, oh, these dudes who wait in line for this shit are actual real hustlers. They got straps on them. They're not fucking around. Like, if you come through trying to make a joke out of them, they're going to whi'll out on you.

And they're not there just to get some T-shirts. They're there to get the shit and then resell it. There's a lot of different people. It's people that are there to get it. People that are there to resell. It's a lot of different shit going on. Definitely.

And Supreme, like, like, everybody we weren't Supreme from every walk of life so like you could run it to anybody right there right there. Right, definitely. With you in Phoenix did you ever have to like I feel like you guys did an extremely good job of keeping whatever tension bullshit you had

like out of the public eye. Like it never really, we never got that interview with you and I know every single interview that you guys do, everybody's always going to ask about it but we never saw that messy-ass moment where a bunch of shit from behind the scenes came out to the front. Because it really was what I said it was

just us like just growing up. and just having differences and how we thought. It wasn't like no street shit, no nothing, like you feel me? Right. It wasn't no money.

Me and him were getting the exact same amount of money. Mm. 50-50. So it was like, it was nothing. But, okay,

when I first realized that the group was going through some wild changes was probably like rolling loud 2018 in Miami when I realized like, oh, you guys are performing rolling loud,

you're high up on the bill, but Rob and Cato weren't there. What happened with that was like, we stopped taking them on tour because that was basically my call and that's probably with like anything, that was like a catalyst

to everything else but it was just straight facts like I went on tour I did my first tour with them was my first time being away from home I never even been out of the city first tour and I've never even talked about this

this is my first tour first time being out the city and I was trapping bro so it was my first time leaving the city we went on a probably 60 day tour that's a long ass time for never leaving

to perform in every single night like a circus That'll ruin most friendships or relationships. No, this is the worst part, too. That is, like, having to live with people inside a bus, all that. The worst part, we got back, and, like, everybody was smoking every night. I don't even smoke. So they catch a smoking fees.

They order a room service. Everyone is doing whatever they want to do. I'm there eating for me to make chickens and, like, you know, just keeping my head on straight. Like, I'm, like, keeping my head, everything balanced. When we get back, bro, the tour might have grossed 400,000. thousand because of all the fees the overdrides like everything i think our cuts was like 10,000 each i said bro i could have 60 days of your life bro i said i could have and i was away from my from home my family like it was just so new to me i was like bro i could have made this in a week at home

i'm not doing this shit ever again it's just stupid right damn but that did you then feel like damn i wish that when we signed the deal with atlantic that we had signed it as two people as opposed to four. We could have even signed it individually. I didn't know. I wish our managers at the time would have put us on a little bit of game. I mean, I feel like everyone was just in a rest to get that money. I was not in a rest to get that money. Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying. Like, I always felt like you had a business mind. I think it's because I was already getting money and I was already like, selling trapping was like a business. So, like, I was already like, I knew what I wanted. I even tried to turn that advance down. I was like, I don't need that advance. I just wanted what the

label could do for me. So how did that conversation go where you're like, you know, we're going to be a lot more sparing with who we take on tour, including like members of the actual group? I was just like, that's not going to work. Like, I wouldn't go on a tour again. Why would I go on a 60-day tour and make $10,000? Right. It was done. It's a no-brainer. I feel everyone understood, too. They're like, all right. So you never had to do like promo tours and all the shit that I hear artists talk about where they kind of got to go out and basically just lose money in order to get the promotion of going on doing shit. Since our very first official show,

headlining show, everything was sold out. We've never had like a not sold out show. Right. We didn't have to do that. But you never had to do the thing where you like tour as support for a bigger artist

just in order to get the additional fans or anything. You ever been offered anything like that that was kind of tempting? I mean, I did support for YG, but that was it. And I was just recently. Right. That was an arena tour too.

And our fans are so, like, the same. Like, it didn't even feel like it was his show or my show. Like, you're big enough that his fans already know about show. No, the whole arena was singing my shit. Like, it was literally word for word. Right. Okay, if you got an offer tomorrow and it was like you could go open for Travis Scott for a month.

I'm doing that shit. Yeah, there's like certain ones that got to be worth it, right? Got it. Yeah, definitely. That's got to be a wild choice. Yeah, but that's how we were kind of spoiled. We never did open up for knowing. We just went straight into selling out our own shit.

Right. And that's why I didn't realize since we didn't have to go through that, open enough for people. I didn't realize how big we were. That might have made me turn down the whole record deal if I didn't know that that was normal. To be selling out shows and advance and all that shit. I didn't know.

Definitely. You ever talk to Rob or Cato? Is there any kind of relationship there still? I don't talk to Rob. I've said like with Subtacado like we've seen. I hit them both up over the years to ask them about doing an interview and neither of them responded.

Which is kind of interesting to me, because normally the guys who kind of end up on the outs of the situation normally have a lot to say. I think they're independent. Like, if they wanted to, they could do whatever the f*** they want. Right. You see, I feel like it's all work ethic. Yeah, because they were never really on that many of the songs, like, Shoreline songs in general. Yeah, I think people would be getting confused. I'm like, bro, I think you guys like the idea, but you guys don't even listen to them.

Right. You guys are fucking, like, people would just be saying something. Yeah, definitely. Damn, I wonder what they're actually getting into it. I've got to do some homework. Okay, what was there, when Lefty Gunplay said that he was joining Shoreline Mafia, was that always a troll, or was there any truth to that? We were just kicking it.

It's like when the hummys come around, he's like, yeah, I'm from the set, you know what, I mean? But was there, like, when you guys had that arrest clip or where the cops were searching you or whatever, what was going on in that? I was shooting my video for real. It's one of the tracks off the album. The videos is out already. I was shooting my for real video, and I invited Lefty to just come kick it as a

I mean do a cameo or something. Right. We were just chilling. Cops pulled us over and obviously thinking we have guns. But we had armed security, so we had no illegal guns. Right. So they just kept us there for like two, three hours, like ripping the car apart, like trying to find something. Just from shooting a video on the side of the street?

Well, that was hell of good, but it was illegal guns. It was armed security. Right. They just had to make sure. And it was like 200 people with us. That was just one car. They took our car, obviously. And you didn't have a permit?

Because that was like in Hollywood Boulevard, right? No, they had put us over. We weren't shooting right there. Oh, okay. They followed us from like one location to another. Oh, shit. So, and then, uh, so we're shooting the for real video. He's just coming out as a cameo.

We're just chilling us to hummy. And then the cops do that, ruin the whole video shoot. Because we had hired models, hired crew, hired everything, you know what I? Right. So they ruined the shoot, keeping us there for two, three hours. Like, I'm like, I was just in a fucking cop car sweating for two, two hours. So the video's done. I take out of my shirt and I'm like, fuck, we don't shoot our

Our song right now. So we just start shooting our song. Right. I'm going to just make the best out of the situation. Damn, that's crazy. Do you feel like the cops got it out for you at all, or do you feel like that's kind of... Not really. They're just...

It's just rappers. Of course, the rappers have guns. But we got armed security. That's what the fuck we pay for. Right. I was telling the cops that too. I'm like, bro, why would you have guns if I paid probably like $4,000 on security that day? Right.

You feel me? Yeah, definitely. You still feel like you need that much security, though? No, it was just a special occasion. We out. It's like, we... Right. We're trying to avoid.

avoid everything, you feel me? And it's 200 of us. We don't, I'd rather no one have a gun and we have all the official, official guns for real security. Yeah. Shooting a music video outside. Yeah, you guys having guns on you like shit is normal? And we also, yeah, we're not doing that no more.

Like everything is big budget. Like that time we're like, oh, we're outside. We're in the street. We're like, yeah, we got to do, take the proper precaution. Yeah. One of my wildest memories is, uh, we did a vlog behind the scenes when you guys, I think you reshot Mustie. because there was two versions of the video, right?

And then you got shot the video, and that's the one where you had a hove with the giant thing, Alene that, by the way, had multiple perkinset's mixed in with it. That was like one of the more ignorant things. I was just telling the other day. I'm like, I had seen that a lot.

But I'm like, I forget that we're artists. So people's first time seeing that was like that. Well, I had seen that shit so many times. It was such a big official video shoot and then seeing you guys do that. And I was just like, like, oh, my God, it's crazy.

And that thumbnail still just stands out so much of my mind. That's funny. I was just talking about it like last thing. Right, because the weird fact about that is that your girl, your baby mom's dad, shot the video, right? He did interviews ago. Yeah, I wasn't on that one. I think it was with Sharp, but he did do an interview about it too, which I was like,

like it's one thing for your girl's dad to be a video director, but then also for him to see you consuming huge amounts of lean. He could, and he's been in the industry. So long. Yeah. You know, so. And, like, when I met him, like, I was a real street kiss. So he knew where I come from.

It was like when I met them, like, I had to do like an interview with him. Like, he could, yeah, and it's funny because he probably, well, he definitely don't know. But I had to link up with him at the Cheesecake Factory, then there to be like, like, talking to him, like, how, what, like who I am, you feel me, introducing myself? I had just busted a script. I had a pint of lean on my waist. I was like, this is crazy. He didn't peep it?

No, hell, no. It was on my way. You kept it in your waist? I had literally just came from busing the script. I think I took the bus over there, too. Really? Yeah. Holy shit.

What year were we talking? I don't know. I was doing my baby mama 11 years, so 11 years ago. Oh, shit. That's crazy. Another thing that stood about that to me, too, is that you were wearing a jacket with all the different NBA teams all over it, and then when it came out, like your whole body was blurred.

So they told me that I was. going to happen, but I'm like, that's cool. It's going to look like an old school video. Yeah, yeah. You feel it. Like a 90s rap video. It did look cool. But also it was kind of like, damn, you put a lot of money on these clothes for that whole shit to be blurred out. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, like, do you, did you fall out with a lot of people that used to be around during that era as time went on? Like, is there all, like, I don't even remember exactly who I'm talking about, but there's a lot of people who are around during that era that I feel like you just, I don't personally see it.

Yeah. I feel like it was a falling out. it was just growing apart because like i know i can say nothing better about me for real it was just growing apart me growing up myself i feel like i've matured obviously a lot more than a lot of people i fucking know and um just like having kids everyone having kids a lot of hummies dying right a lot of hummys getting on drugs like bad like that's what it did everybody just separated kind of yeah you guys definitely open my eyes not you specifically but like certain people that would be in your entourage at that point and I remember like seeing one of them buying like seven perks off somebody and somebody being like let me get one and he's like bro you know I need this for tonight and I was like oh so it's like

some of these people got real issues yeah no exactly that's like the biggest example of like drugs are cool and so they're not cool like everybody's around and it's all cool at the beginning and people really turn a drug at it right so are you still like pretty anti-lean or is it more like a once-in-a-while thing? Maybe like once a year. Really? You're more of a drinker? Because you used to like celebrate not drinking alcohol.

Yeah, I'll drink now. But you know what? It's because I started going to clubs and shit. But I try to stay, like last year I stayed away from like alcohol and like all together. I was just really focused on that album. Yeah. I was just working on my health and not drinking.

But yeah, I'll drink when I go to clubs. But I'm about to go back sober. I'm like it's too hard to deal with like doing business and drinking. Yeah. Like waking up, hungover, two, three days. the recovery. It's like I can't do it. Yeah, no, for sure.

I don't know why Ray J is calling me right now. I should have gone, do not disturb. Tell me myself what. You want me to pick up? Okay. Ray J, I'm doing an interview with O.GZ of Shoreline Mafia right now. How are you doing? I'm doing good, man.

Telling myself, what's up? What up? What up? Man, sorry about bothering y'all. Yeah, so let's knock the shit out. All right, for sure. Yeah, I'm going to call you after this. I got a big play for it, Paul.

All right, sounds good All right, that's funny. What are you going to do here? Don't worry about that. Y'all going to run it, too, man? Nah, no, no, no. It's so much better if I don't explain. That's funny as.

Damn, I got to, after this, Ray J and O.GIS is going to come out, and then everybody's going to be like, damn, out of brought them together. No cap, no cap. Damn, I need that. Holy shit. That just got me blushing. I'm overheating now. Ray J. Hook on the GZ song.

You know, that's a legendary pipe layer right there. Yeah, come on. Me and him, probably the only people in the rap game that won porn awards. For real, he won a porn awards? Yeah. I didn't know that. I seen him in Vegas one time, and he's just like, what you're doing out here? I'm like, I didn't really know him at this time.

I'm like, oh, I'm here for the porn awards. He goes, oh, yeah, I won one of them one time. That's funny as sick. What award you win? Porn podcast of the year. I don't know exactly what he won. That's like fake porn. That's like a fake award.

On Plug Talk, we interview him and then we pipe them. Plug Talk. But I'm saying, I thought you said, I thought you were going to get like a best award or something. I felt like I probably wouldn't be the one to win that. I don't even know if there's that, like, best male performance. Like, there's not that, but there's like best hits. That's funny. Yeah, there's a lot of weird shit going on in there.

Okay. You say in the gym at all? Or like, I'm trying to figure out what the new evolved grown-up. Oh, Gizi is all about. Yeah, I just fell off. from doing so much, like, media and shows and videos right now, like, but I'm about to get right back in. Right.

Is it tough to balance those, like, late night club appearances and shit? Hell of stuff. Like, one night, like, I can do hell of good, and then I go to the club, and I'm fucking out to 4 a.m., like, commute and everything. Even if I don't drink, that one night of no sleep is going to f*** me up. No, for sure. That's always how I feel when somebody suggests a club thing, and I'm like, man, I'm going to be going to bed at five in the morning,

and my kid is going to be waking me up at six in the morning. If it's not an OGZ, I would rather stay home and miss the club. Definitely. Not yet. I feel that. Yo, sleep is really important. Really important.

And the odor you get, the more you realize that shit. Especially when you know that you're booked up the next day. And it's like, imagine me sitting here doing interviews for eight hours and I'm dying. We've been going to a club lately and like my little hummy just been sleeping in the car. Like, I'm like, I just want to go to sleep. Or I be in bed. Yeah. And I don't have to be at the club.

They want you at the club at 12 or 1. Right. So I'm in bed and it hits like 10, 11. I'm like, I want to get out of bed and get ready. This is crazy. Yeah. The only way I can survive that usually is the preemptive nap. You took a two hour and nap at like eight.

I feel like that makes it worse. I'm like, I really want to stay asleep. You're like a weird version of yourself after the two hour nap. Yeah. Yeah. If it feels weird. But then also when you're in that environment and you want to keep getting booked for showing up to that kind of thing. Yeah, I show up and show the fuck out.

It's like, yeah, you've got to be this like energetic-ass version. Exactly. So, like, I'm in the club. I'm listening to, like, R&B on the way over there. And then I'm like, all, I get there stretched. And I'm like, all right, let's go in there. I'm crazy.

Right. Definitely. What's your relationship with graffiti these days? Because I'm not going to lie. Over the years, I've seen a few clips here and there that made me realize, like, oh, shit, he's having a hard time letting it go. I had to stop. I had to stop.

Really? I had caught a case. And that shit costs, like, 50, 60,000. Where had? I think it's, like, Santa Cruz or something. Really? Like, leaving a show, we were just fading. And we were like, all right, let's catch thawies.

And then he got caught up. Wow. And it costs you 50 grand? Because I have to pay for whoever is with me. Like, I'm like, it was my fault. I turned everybody up. Holy shit. Lower your fees because.

To basically make the case go away. Yeah. Is that tough, though, because I know you still got hell of love for it. No, it's not tough because I don't want to pay no 50, 60 racks. Right. Like, I'm not going to throw away the money on that shit. You still feel comfortable with that kind of thing at home now? I feel like, I feel like, I'm like, uh, I'm like writing.

I do so many autographs, like, almost every day. So it's like, and I'm doing my handstown. So it's like, I'm still doing it. That is, that's how I think of it every time I got to sign that posters in a row. I'm just like working on my name. Yeah, exactly. Definitely. Nah, we had a documentary that we've been working on for like six months now or whatever.

With, yeah, with some of your boys or some dudes that you know. And at a certain point, because like, all right, we're doing like interviews with them. And then we also have footage of them like hidden highway signs and shit. And like the whole time I was thinking like, y'all are really going to let us just put out a documentary that shows your face and shows you like living your life yeah because they're rapping shit too so it's like you know like kind of rent-up yeah and like a whole time and then at a certain point they stopped responding to the video guy who's putting it together and I'm like okay that makes sense because I don't know why you would want to put yourself out there like that's gonna write that

yeah that's that's that's wild but uh damn like there's still a lot of people tagging o tx and shit like you still see it in crazy places all over the city. Fans and shit. I know it ain't you, but yeah, definitely. All over the world, everywhere I go. Like, if I do a show somewhere in Colorado, so fans are going to write that shit. Where they wrote on my fucking tour books on time?

Really? I was like, I was like, upset. You came to see me and fucking, no. You didn't care? He was like, how do you feel? I was like, how do you feel? I said, I get it. Yeah, because that is kind of like the most

hardcore thing a fan could do in a way. No, it was just like I would do the same shit. Right. So now I'm on the other side of the thing. Yo, very weird thing is to like own something that gets vandalized. Because we got a billboard on Melrose at one point, like a big,

on some shit billboard, and within like two days somebody to graph on it, and it's not even like some fly shit, which would make me feel one way. Yeah, that's like garbage. That's what pissed me off. It was some toy-ass shit. Yeah.

Beyond toy. Like the worst thing you ever can see in your life, like somebody who just found two half-empty cans of pain, they didn't even like finish filling it in and shit. And I was just like, damn, for real. Like, you kind of get that. peek into what that might be like for other people. I saw someone right on your store the other day?

Well, the store is not even there anymore, but... I thought I seen a video like this. There was a couple of attempts where people came through and like tag the ground and shit. I don't respect that. Tagging the ground. It was like shooting in the sky. That's what cornyest.

But, okay, yeah. All right, so that takes here the graffiti thing. Oh, yeah, so how do you feel about the nitrous explosion in Los Angeles? I know you're around people doing that all the time, probably. I wasn't around people doing that but I think it's bad it's hella bad for the kids and kids don't even understand

how addicted in and what it does to your like neurological or your brain that shit brings psychosis on like it's bad as bad as I don't condone nitrous definitely but you guys were kind of like like I remember

I think it was you hit me up after I did that documentary and you were like man we deserve our credit for being like super early it's like it's like with lean or anything else like we never did it with intention

of like other kids or like you should know like it's like People should have common sense. It's like listening to a little dirk. Don't go out and fucking kill people, you feel me. If you just enjoy the music, you feel me? Don't do what we do.

Right. You feel you, you feel me? But Nichis is so accessible. Nightjus is more accessible now than ever, and I don't think no kids should be fucking doing that shit. No one should be doing that. Because there's so much more of a pain in the ass to get fucked up on it back in the day.

And now it's like with the galaxy. Yeah, you could just walk in and why that shit. That shit is bad. It's trash. Yeah, definitely. I don't, I don't, I make sure no one around me is doing that shit. Yeah, most people don't have the heart to go spin on an op, no matter how much little dirt they listen to say.

You know, like, Niger is different. That's like 40 bucks at the smoke shop. People are ignorant. Yeah, nah, for real. Free dirt. Yeah, true. But, yeah, because that's been kind of like a wild one to see unfold and where. And I even asked some of the guys who worked for me the other day,

I was like, that Niger shit kind of fell off, right? Like, people ain't really doing it as much as they were like a year ago, right? And they're like, nah, it's still huge. I think people kind of stopped putting it on social media as much. They're probably going to ban it, though, and they should. Well, Galaxy guys took themselves out of the smoke shops and shit, because I think that they saw that they were going to get fucked over in court. I mean, they banned it in Europe, so.

Yeah. They probably banned it. But Europe, you know, they're ahead of, like, trying to help their people or stuff. Yeah. And that. Like, they never, they haven't had red dye and all that shit and all their food for how long. And something I still don't see out here, though, is like, in Europe, you would go to the bar and as it's emptying out,

there's just a guy standing outside filling up balloons for like 10 bucks each. For real? Yeah, and regular ass people are just buying them. Yeah, the last time I was in London, it was like kids on every corner.

That's why they banned that shit. It was kids on every corner doing that stuff. I was like, that's crazy. Definitely. Okay, so, okay, we covered your personal drug use and everything. Oh, yeah, okay.

Either or, Kendrick or Drake. Both. I fuck with both of them. I don't have, like, a preference. So when you were watching, and the whole thing play out. And they both with me. Really?

Yeah. So Kendrick was involved with you being at the pop-out? Yeah. Okay. It was like handpicked. Like there was no one there that, like, Kendrick didn't approve. Really? Okay.

So the invite was basically from Kendrick. Oh, wow. That's dope. I think I assume that it was kind of like the opening DJs or whatever, kind of picking that out. Kendrick, that's like if I threw a show, like nothing that was happening on my shows. And that was like one of the biggest televised things. Definitely.

Do you see that, like, the impact on that? your streams and shit like that i don't think i looked at it okay but i i i did it because it was like it was like a cosign from a great rapper and it was like on some la shit like bro Hispanics and blacks didn't always get along like that so it was like the biggest cosline i thought it was super special and important no that is dope you felt that a lot when you were a kid the the sort of racial tension it feels like it's not as crazy as it used to be right i've low-key feel like i'm not even gonna like not even to my own horn and i feel like i felt like help bring shit together the way everyone

rapping that shit now. Like, like I feel like I help do that. Definitely. When's the last time you stopped in with Drake? Because you guys modeled for him back in the day, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably like a few months ago. Really? What's he saying? We just saying what's up to each other. Okay. That's dope.

I mean, I know so many mutuals because, like, I got hella homies into the rounderoy's. Right. Yeah. No, that's for real. But, okay, with that, like, are you somebody who wants to stay cool with both sides of that equation to the point where, like, even no matter what you think about what's going on with the beef and shit, you just, like, don't

commentate on it, you just keep out of it. I feel like that's what most people in the industry do. Yeah, for sure. I'm just going to stay out. I'm just going. I got my own shit going. Right. Definitely. Okay, rest of peace, say so, the Mac. Yeah, rest of the piece, say so. I never even knew.

Yeah, because you said free him in your lyrics. That's like when I first even heard of. I used to, uh, served say-so back in the day. Really? That's how we met. Yeah. That's really how we met.

That's how he f***ed me when we met each other because he was like, oh, what the that's crazy. We seen each other at the studio and he's like, what? He's like, this nigga will be coming to serving? Damn. So is that f*** up at all to see someone that loses life, like, from drugs? Yeah, bro, I don't condone drug use. Like, I know we do it and like, we do it from time to time, but everything is cool in

in moderation, bro, I don't condone drug use. And that's why I stepped away from hanging out with so many fucking people over drug use. I don't want to see that shit. So there's a lot of people that you previously had in your life where it just kind of go too depressing at a certain point? Yeah, 100%. Right. No, definitely.

Okay, what a... I saw that Paiso Fluma brought you out during the show. Yeah. What led to that? Like, how did that go? He just reached out a bunch of times. He let me know how much he fucked with me. Like, he did interviews where you talk about how me and Phoenix inspired him.

Like, he was super heavily shoreline life inspired. Oh, that's dope. Yeah, he brought me out of that. two shows he fucked with us hell it's up what was it like going on that kind of huge audience I feel like I've done shit like that before so it's kind of normal but it's like and they even seen him like once we same base right once we see not because they're Mexican oh so they feel they seem like they understood who were at home oh shit and then when I met him it's like we knew each other like hugged each other like he's just love definitely

does it uh I like how like they all embrace me and I embrace them back like all the Mexican artists yeah they they heavily embraced me definitely You don't speak Spanish, though, right? Yeah, speak Spanish. Oh, you did? I don't know. People would be saying I'll speak Spanish. I'm like, bro, I speak Spanish.

People put all their, like, not real Mexican stereotypes on to you. Because I feel like you look white enough that people just kind of like make that assumption. It's funny because my grandma's dark. And she's the one who I speak Spanish here. I was just having a whole conversation with her yesterday. It was my son's birthday. Oh, really? Shout out my son.

Shout out sincere Jewel's Karin Karin Karanza gang. Happy birthday. How old is he? Turn six today. That's your oldest? Yeah. He's the only. He's the only kid.

Oh, the only one. Well, I have three other fur babies. Oh, dogs. Yeah. Got it. You're thinking about making more kids or you're just sticking with the one? I would want a daughter, for sure. Really?

You do IVF so you can pick that out. Nah, I wouldn't want to do that. I feel like that's like extra doubt. That's like you're trying to play God. Yeah, I'm just hoping. I was going to hope for a daughter if I get a sound much of them. Damn, yeah, because I got a four-year-old daughter and like, it stands out to me so much. Like, I have to have another kid.

I got to roll the dice. Like, I can't just do one. I got to at least try for that point. I want another kid for a show. Yeah. Damn. You feel like you need to be at a different point in your life? No, no, no.

I'm ready for a kid. Whenever, I'm not sure, yeah. No, no doubt. Okay. I saw that there was a little Yadi, a minor controversy where somebody was trying to make a thing out of one of his lyrics. He said, like, I got a Mexican bitch. I'm going to take her to Mo's.

What is that? Moes is like a Mexican joint. It was like a Chipotle type spot. And I've seen him. people on TikTok trying to treat this like it was offensive. Do you think that's offensive? Is there anything to that? What?

That's not offensive at all. That's crazy. That's what I was thinking. I'm like, I bet when he was in the booth saying that, that he didn't even think that it would be offensive. I feel like people would just be saying. People just want to be involved. People want to feel important.

People want to be heard. People want to put their two cents. A lot of people, there's a lot of people that shouldn't have podcasts and we need to make these more expensive. Yeah, we need a tariff on these. Yeah, oh, God. Because like, all right, the dude. I saw making TikToks about it

was acting as this was like this was the most grave offense Was it even a big song? I've never heard it. I don't even think it's a big song. Yeah, he's tripping. And I'm like, bro, that's a chill. I could see someone tripping

if it was like a number one song like Billboard charting. I mean, bro. Like rap is... And that shit not even offensive. Shout out Yachtie too. Rap is like... Most of the time when you're rapping,

it's like you and your homies making a bunch of like weird little jokes and like just f***ing around trying to make each other laugh. It's like, it's so the vibe of like, you're supposed to be pushing against the edges of, like, what's considered offensive or acceptable. And it's rap, like, we don't, at the end of the day,

we don't go fuck rap. Yeah, that's what's so fucked about the internet. You have all these people that don't really listen to rap, and they're basically, like, trying to make content off of talking about rap. Like, I think a lot of people, like, a lot, especially, like, critics, they don't come from where we come from. You'll never understand.

Yeah, you feel? Definitely. I think about that time. We all come from like the street. We're like, ain't no fucking getting canceled in the street. Yeah. Unless you do some J-Cast, too. It's how you get canceled.

What qualifies as J-K. Jay-Cash shit? I don't know. You know, weird shit. Anything weird. I think about that sometimes. At some point, I'm going to have to explain to my kid that, like, bitch is a bad word, but every rap song I listen to calls girls.

No, you guys. Your kid's from L.A., so you got to explain what a J-Cat is. Man. I feel like my girl don't know. She'll go to school with Hispanics. Yeah. Damn, that's crazy. I can't even imagine that conversation.

What about when, like, Tigers had a couple of songs, like, and one of them that he took down. It wasn't the Go-Loco one. It was a, fuck, I forget which the one he deleted was. But, like, like, he was kind of, like, playing on some Mexican tropes, stereotypes to, like, make a song. I fucked with Tiger. And Tiger gave me a feature and for the Freezing. So he's looking out for the Mexican. Really?

Because he's looking out for me in tune. I'm looking out for more Mexicans. He's looking out. That's dope. Shout out Tiger. Shout out to Tiger. He's streaming now. Could you see yourself being a streamer?

No, I don't think so. You don't think you got it? Maybe I'll try. Maybe I try. Right. A lot of rappers I just feel like I would have a hard time with it. Yeah, because it's too much. Like we do out of pocket shit.

We say out of pocket shit. Like it's like a lot of private shit. Yeah. And like being on stream for four or five hours in a row, Maybe I could, though. I don't know. It's a tough skill set. I need a lot of media.

I need to media train all the homies around me. Oh, for sure. Yeah, you're going to media train them. 100%. Okay. You want to know when I knew that you was a cold dude? Is when there was an episode of that Fig Unity podcast you're on, and AD asked you for a verse.

And I felt like you kind of killed his rapper dreams a little bit by shutting him down. And I shut out AD. It's not even that. It's like really business. You were like, you got a label? You got a budget? Bro, I turn down so much stuff, like so much stuff. And a lot of people think, like, you would assume it's because I'm cocky or I'm like,

you feel, no, this is my art. Like, this is, like, real art. Like, I treat this like art. And that's why I feel like I'm so successful with it because I'm not, I don't treat rap, like, so much of a business. Like, I treat my music like a piece of art. Definitely. Yeah, because I mean.

So I don't fuck around about it. A lot of people, like, are really out here doing songs with whoever. They're doing interviews 24-7. all the time and it feels like you're moving in a different way where you take the shit more serious I'm on my way to be a superstar for that stuff like you can't you can't like put yourself up here and then come down and work with everybody and it's like I would love to like I don't I don't even like saying no like it's so hard for me to say no but like I want to keep my brain where it needs to be because we see people all the time who like fall out with their day ones because they wouldn't

give them a verse or whatever and don't seem to understand that as a rapper you got to kind of this shit is art like in like people like I feel like other people no one's ever explained it like that like no one knows how much this shit means to each one of us everybody has their own like way that's why like it's some verses that I don't get cleared or I ask for a feature like I don't take that shit of offense because I understand really I feel like but you just got to be understanding a lot of people aren't understanding you got any examples of that that come to mind in terms of songs that not really it's a lot of shit like I can't even think of it

like all for it but we've asked for features like we've asked for features a lot of time people would be like oh no we don't want to do this we'll work later and I'm like all right cool no yeah definitely I don't take nothing personal no shit business how'd you end up connecting with you got a song with pressa and bunda which apparently he's like a legend for and needs to remain mysterious because I was on FaceTime with him and press on one time and I screenshot put it on Facebook and they were like bro you gotta take that down it's like all bad that's my boy shut out of bunda I met him when he was like fresh out

of prison he just took care of me good people's like it's like it's like when you meet people and it's just love like I don't want nothing from him he don't want nothing for me and it's like it's like he real so like real recognized real like you meet someone and you like it feel like I know you my whole life you for me right you were in Toronto when you did that video or that was out here uh it was in Toronto yeah I was in the hood I was in by the projects right there that's dope it was half Toronto half Atlanta I was a press in Atlanta but one dog couldn't leave Toronto so we did the other half in Toronto do you feel like you were moving around with some very dangerous

individuals right there because I feel like they're We don't know, but they're like super controversial. They got crazy street shows. No, I feel like I move around with dangerous individuals everywhere. I have my whole life, you know. He was dissing some ops on that song with you. I don't know if you caught it. Yeah, oh, yeah.

He was dissing somebody. I mean, hey. I feel like you wouldn't have done a song with somebody in L.A. who was dissing somebody like that. No, yeah. I don't blame you. Yeah, for sure, for sure. But I feel like everybody understand where I come from.

Like, I like to show love and give love. And like, it's nothing personal with me. You feel me? Like, I show a lot of love. Like, if you really look at everything I do, like, I show a lot of love. And I just love to get the love back. Like, honestly, I feel like in a perfect world that we should all be united. We are the same, bro.

When I meet, niggas from different hoods, niggas that be for each other, like, bro, we're all the fuck are the same same jokes. We like the same bitches. We wear the same clothes. It just shit gets misconstrue. Like, life is life. Society. For sure.

Do you feel like you're stuck with the same haircut for life? Like, you can't switch it up? Oh, no. It's magic in his hair Oh, Gizi with the baldy might not hit the same. Yeah, might not. Nah, it's going to hit the same. It might hit harder. It goes. It's definitely, whatever I do,

it's not going to get worse. I want to get better. But we had the O.GZ's snowman board on the wall for, like, a million interviews in a row. I love when I see interviews in my board. And I know it goes over a lot of people's heads. So, so y'all know that's my skateboard on every interview. Acting like it was a bootleg young Gizi. Yeah, it's funny because, like, people,

People that aren't really fans of me, like, they'll try to come talk shit. Like, they'll be like, oh, you got that from young G's, you copy young G's. It's like, no, besides that, like, besides the obvious, like, well, we come from skate culture. Right. But, like, every brand. Parity, rip-off. Yeah, exactly. And it's, it's paying homage.

Like, I grew up off Jesus, you know? Sure. And that, but that says a lot about how I wanted that hair. And I really sell bricks. No. But, like, think about it. Like, if you could take a hairstyle and put it on a snowman and everybody gets the reference, that kind of says a lot. lot. Yeah, exactly. Definitely. You ever met up with young Jeezie?

Mm-mm. They hit me up the other day when they were in LA. Really? They're like, yo, Jeez-y want to bring you out? I'm like, what? That's a son. I'm like, that's... You weren't around? I had just got home. I had been gone for like a month. And I hadn't seen my son. I was like, there's no way I can just get home. I just walked in the house. I'm like, I can't just leave. Yo, I would trip out if I heard y'all on a song again. But I told his team the people that reached out. I'm like, I want to work with him. I want to do something like that. Yeah. That would be actually a crazy-ass moment. I'm going to do something else.

Putting that out there right now. I got this dude, Bubba, belly gang Cushington from Atlanta who wraps exactly like Gizi. He's a white, or he's half white, half black, he rubs exactly like him.

Like one of my favorite songs, like, that's why I came up with the shit was so icy. And Jesus was wearing the snowman jersey, and that's why my first world in a lot I came out with that exact same snowman jersey. I was like, that was one of the most inspiring songs for me, like,

for sure. Being a kid watching Gizi and Gucci. Definitely. And that song was powerful. Look what came from that song. Beef. Like all that you see. That was a special song.

Definitely. That changed the whole shit. Yeah. Okay. So what else you got playing coming up in terms of pushing this album and everything you got going on? I'm just going to keep doing content. Shows.

I'm doing shows. Like, I'm doing clubs every weekend. And it's cool because it's like an older crowd. Like, it just goes to show. Like, when I do a show, it sells out because it's all ages. And when I do a club, it sells out. Like, everything's just going up. I just kind of keep on working.

and keep my foot on the gas. Definitely. No, that's dope to have it. And paid and full is one of my best work to date. Like, I love how I'm rapping on it. I love my headspace that I'm in. It just feels good. It feels special.

So, and then we're going right into Shoreline Mafia. So it's like, I've never done that. I can get back to back. Yeah. You see how long they made us wait to drop a shoreline. I was three years. Yeah, were you real frustrated during that time period? I was torn so much, like 200 seven days out of the year.

I wasn't even paying attention. Right. And then I forget that fans are at home and they're not like, time goes by fast when you traveling and busy. So when I reflected on it, I was like, oh shit, damn, we fucked up. And there's new rappers every day trying to take your spot. You got to just keep going because it's like you never know. No cap.

Definitely. All right, anybody you want to shout out? Any thanks? Shout out my son. This is his birthday today. I'm about to go up taking a nice dinner. That's it, man. Shout out you.

Thank you for having me here, man. I see you in a minute. Nah, yeah, it's been a while. I see that rolling loud like here again. Congrats on all your success. Nah, I appreciate it, man. I'm proud of you seeing you being a good dad and everything like that. It's dope.

Hell yeah. Our kids will get together one day. Shout out the play date. Shout out the kids, man. Shout out the kids. That's what we do for it is. If you got kids, fuck everything else. That's what you got to do.

I still haven't had any, like, interactions between my kid and, like, rappers, kids, which I feel like will be, like, the trippiest thing in the world. How is your daughter? Four. She don't want to meet, my son. He's already two player. You're two player. you got to keep her away.

That's crazy. You mention that? Because my kid, my girl says that my kid basically has, like, a crush on her swim instructor. And he's, like, he's grown. He's, like, 20 or something shit. But, like, she's like,

I can tell by the way she looks at him and shit and the way she talks about him, that she fully, like, she doesn't understand, but she has, like a crush. Yeah, she got to stay away from my son. He too fly. Oh, my God.

Yeah, all right. I'm definitely going to do that. Maybe they should never cross paths. Yeah, all right. Let's keep them separated. Then we're going to start beefing because he's going to be mad. No, no, you're not bad about that.

Unless he does are dirty, then I'm going to fucking kill him. You see, I'm not saying. It's going to be smoke. All right, yo, OJeezy. Shoreline forever. I appreciate you, bro. Yes, sir. Thank you.

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